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GET READY TO GET DISAPPOINTED

>Failed to reach the Purging Monument:
>>172302760

>1.11 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839063734797566

>1.12 patch:
http://store.steampowered.com/news/externalpost/steam_community_announcements/75839596812166515

>Ringed City DLC stuff
http://pastebin.com/4mUsZWmv (embed)

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v (embed)

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63 (embed)

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a (embed)

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n (embed)

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3 (embed)

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm (embed)
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>>172312414
I-is this armour set in the dlc?
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Where does that guy you meet after getting dropped off in the ringed city go off to? The one right near the very first bonfire before the spirit archer gauntlet.
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WHY DO DRAGON BOSSES ALWAYS SUCK
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Midir a shit

But i will beat this garbage boss because there is no way i will let this fag be my last Dark Souls boss experience.
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Jester Thomas should've been the Earthen Peak boss.
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Guys can you revive an NPC using cheat engine? I need ludleth back since I forgot to give him the kiln
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Are the Primordial Serpents one of the biggest ball grabs from FromSoft?

Make them a vital part of the first game and then make references to them all over Dark Souls 3, but hey, they died offscreen lol

I really dislike how they managed the Primordial Serpents, I didnt even care for Velka or any of those barely important characters for the series, I just wanted more shit about the serpents
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AFTER 3 HOURS, I GOT THIS MOTHER FUCKER. FUCK YOU.
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DLC location in pure cacner.
Invasions will be fun here for sure.
Even ganksquads can't stop laserbeams
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>>172312495
Sinh is a good fight

DaS2 wins again baby
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>>172312482
Yeah, Ciaran is the secret boss. You find her inside the painting
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>>172312543
Just wait until you get to Midir anon, you might have to play for a couple days.
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They could've just copied and pasted the Desert Sorceresses from DS2, but they didn't even do that, they just dressed up an NPC
Did this DLC somehow have budget problems
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Pls send good help to a hollowing mage outside of midir
PC
pass dsg
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WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T KILL FRIEDE AND GO TO TRC
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>>172312543
some day i will be you, but it'll take more than 3 hours
or a summon who doesn't die to the demons
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havent got a chance to play this dlc yet

whats the recommended level so its challenging but still fun, also im going with my strenght build, is it viable on this dlc? asking for pve
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Holy shit ringed city is eleum loyce!
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Just beat the ultimate gank squad of ultimate destiny boss. If only i had focused on the invader and not the minions i would have passed it long ago
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>>172312559
yay

well confusing lore wise, but yay.
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>TRC ending cutscene is literally "DLC 3 PREVIEW" instead of any actual closure
How long will Miyazaki milk this franchise?
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How do I get past the bridge?
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>Ledo's hammer
How the fuck a simple silver knight got a better weapon than Smuph
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>>172312595
im having a good time at 80

things hurt
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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.
Long shall they be missed.
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>>172312628
>>172312628
his is the last dlc and game in the series. go back to /v/
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>>172312598
Kill yourself in this thread as well.
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>halflight bullshit just evolved into hacking chinamen galore
can't have nice things
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Just wrapped up Gael. None of the bosses actually killed me more than once, but they were all incredibly fun. A+ shit.

As far as gear goes, I think I got everything but the hammer (I cocked up and the guy never invaded me), the war banner, and the heal (which I assume is a covenant reward).

One thing bugs me though. I actually finally found the purging monument, but can't seem to find Lapp anywhere to tell him about it. He sort of disappeared after I saw him after the first Judicator.
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Reminder that the reason the DLC sucked was because we're getting Bloodborne 2
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Reminder
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>>172312628
>Ending cutscene
There's an ending cutscene?

Also, there's no 3rd DLC. That was it.
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>>172312628
Didn't he say this was the last? I mean the "your painted world" shit seems like an obvious tie in to a new DLC however.
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>>172312643
70 here

don't send help, they get scaled down and 1 shot in my world
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What's the AR difference for Gael's Greatsword at 40/13 and 40/40?

Can you infuse any of the TRC weapons?
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>>172312628
dude, that is the ending. Painter that still doesn't have a name repeats some lines from the first DLC and you go kill Soul of Cinder again and listen to the new credits music like anything you waited a full year for actually mattered in the end
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>>172312621
He's lying.
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>>172312628
>ending cutscene

rofl
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>>172312664
heal and war banner are both right next to eachother

take a drop on the right side after following the path at the first spot hollow patches is at
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>>172312651
Didn't they just say it's the last one Miyazaki will take part in? Or was that something else? I'm sure if Bamco wants to milk it they'll very well do so
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>>172312595
You can only even get to it from the Kiln of the First Flame or Elfreide's room. It's end/post game level.

I was a dummy and went in at NG+4 and some bosses were literally oneshotting me with 40+% absorption and 1800 HP. My 469 AR weapon wasn't even turning the final boss's HP yellow.
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Post yfw lorefags got BTFO
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>>172312546
If that's the case does that mean the Undead Curse wasn't manufactured by Gwyn to prolong the Age of Fire but a natural consequence on mankind, as they also rely on the Flame after all? And is the implication that every time we link the Fire we recast the seal? Sorry if I'm getting tiresome, I'm interested in the lore but haven't played the DLC yet!
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>>172312572
Actually Lapp is a good summon for first phase, he barely takes damage with his shield and can drawn the attention of one of the demons
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Is Ringed Knight Spear dex weapon?
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why are europeans bad at this game lmao
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I'm speechless.
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>>172312572
I've summoned just Lapp because he at least uses his shield and tanks a bit. Summoning both Gael and him will make the boss HP be too high.

>>172311082 Almost smashed the controller that time.
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>>172312758
Can people like this guy stop being retarded?
>as they also rely on the Flame after all

Everything that isn't an archdrake relies on the flame, you absolute mong. All the souls came from Fire.
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Is this sword actually any good?
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>so much shit about swords of avowal
>all those towers
>we get to visit none of them or even see them
k
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>>172312758
The Undead Curse was never created by Gwyn, it was just an unintended consequence of prolonging the Age of Fire.
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>>172312860
I happened to upgrade it to +4 and used it to kill Gael because the build I was running makes the fight take 10 minutes to get him to 75%
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>>172312758
>does that mean the Undead Curse wasn't manufactured by Gwyn to prolong the Age of Fire but a natural consequence on mankind, as they also rely on the Flame after all?
Yes. This whole "The Curse is Gwyn's fault" thing is pure nonsense disseminated by memesters on the Internet. The Undead Curse is a perfectly natural consequence of the fading of the First Flame that is perfectly logical due to its function as the source of all Disparity.

>And is the implication that every time we link the Fire we recast the seal?
There is actually no set answer for this. We're never given an answer on what exactly the "seal of fire" is, despite it being very reminiscent of the seal of water of New Londo. If it's linked directly to the First Flame, or merely some other plot detail that we never see [such as Gwyn's promise that "he'll come for Filianore when the time is right", we'll probably never know.
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How do we fix Dark Souls 4/Bloodborne 2?
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Why would they do this?
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Can you cast healing spells as a spear?
i might need to make myself a bulky faith mace build to pvp with them
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>>172312682
LITERALLY NOT FAIR
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>>172312860
It's decent but you can parry the WA so I wouldn't be just throwing it out like crazy
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well that's neat
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>>172312925
Don't make them
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>>172312747
they could change their mind in the future, but as of now it's the last.

they're working on a new ip. he doesn't want the series to get endless spin offs. that's why this game and dlc is basically the end of everything.
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>>172312926
is that after demon prince?

that is fucking retarded
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So the painted guardians spawning during the spear fight really didn't have any actual meaning huh
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>>172311663
You interrupt his Fireball chargeup by hitting him.
It's literally the easier fight.
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>>172312750
>>172312643
>>172312702
well fuck, guess im going with my 120, was going to use hacks to de level but its not worth the hassle now
thanks anons
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>>172312891
We can see this tower, not sure if we can actually get in there. It looks like it has a door that can be opened.
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>>172312858
Ah, sorry! I thought because of what Kaathe had to say that humans didn't actually need the flame. My mistake!
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>>172312792
>>172312852
Lapp does better than Gael and lasts longer.

It's the second phase I'm really struggling with because he has so much damn hp.
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>>172312683
>posting this old ass shit that wasn't even correct back then
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>>172312926
GET IT? IT'S A REFERENCE XDD
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>>172312925
Make them RTS games.
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>>172312995
Did you watch the opening cinematic for Dark Souls 1?
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>>172312926
fucking why
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>>172312993
We never get inside that tower

i'm not joking, play the DLC if you don't believe me
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>>172312543
Are you playing on NG++++ or something?
He's literally the easiest boss in the DLC.
Don't know about Gael though, but i'm hoping he's atleast close to Midir.
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>>172312926
What is that meant to be, I recognise it but can't quite put my finger on it.
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>>172312991
do it on NG+

rush to Friede and kill her
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>>172312958
*misses the fall by 3 meters*
*teleports on ur neck*
Heh, nothin personnel... kid...
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>>172313023
A reference to what exactly? Seems familiar but not enough to give a guess.
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>>172313083
Part of Firelink Shrine, leads to where Frampt sat. Literally has no significance though. Nothing about the serpents is explained in the DLC.
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>>172313083
Firelink shrine from Dark Souls 1
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>>172313101
not worth it

you get +3 rings no matter what. anything outside NG is pointless now.
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>>172313043
I did! Is it meant to still be accurate with TRC out? For example in the DaS1 intro it only shows Gwyn, Nito and the WoI fighting in the war, but now we know that the pygmies did in fact also participate.
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>>172313068
I'm playing it right now. Just had a pause to smoke after being raped by the dragon. That's really a shame.
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>there are people in this thread right now
>that don't think there will be DLC3 or DaS4
lmaoing at ur lyfe
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>>172313128
>>172313130
Ah, yes. Fuck.
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>>172312926
>>172313056
Which areas are they referencing? If they're from DaS2 that'd explain why I don't remember them.
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>>172313162
I'm a bit outside the loop. Aren't NG and NG+ players separated?
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>>172312996
>>172312852
What is it that you find hard about princes?
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why does my great mace do more damage than ledos hammer?
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rate fashion pls
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>>172313162
it's worth it if you want to have some semblance of challenge instead of blazing through on a minmaxed 120
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>stomping people with frayed blade

this weapon is fun
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>>172313226
knock knock
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>>172313226
Gateway to madness/10
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We'll never get to see Londor, boys. All that lord of londor is pointless. Let that sink in.
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>>172313170
The intro to DS1 has been retconned a bit, but is still a fairly reliable major source of information on the setting.

The two biggest asterisks that need to be added to it is that
A - Pygmies also participated on the fighting.
And
B - The entire war against the Everlasting Dragons lasted for a LOT longer than the time frame of the intro would have you believe. It almost makes it sound like the Lords killed all the dragons in an afternoon or in a single battle, which we have known since the original game that isn't true.
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>>172313203
>Disses Ds2 for being unmemorable
>Can't even recognize the most iconic location in the Souls series
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>>172313206
no

this isn't dark souls 2
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>The Ringed City was actually The Ringed Bridge With Ruin Sentinels, Linear Path Between Buildings and Yet Another Huge Empty Swamp Area
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Anyone take out the dragon on the bridge before the 2sword guy?
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>>172313190
don't you think there would have been an announcement about DLC3 by now? We knew about DLC2 back in September 2016.
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10 ashtus at 30 att isn't enough to kill 2bats in ng+7
PLEASE HELP ME I CAN'T DO THIS
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>>172313287
It's because I played it the least, not because it's unmemorable.
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>>172313206
no, that was in ds2 and some parts of ds1 like that one covenant
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>>172313170
My point was that all the four factions that united against the dragons came from Fire.
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>>172313297
You need to take him out to make him a boss later.
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>>172313292
>How do you want your DLC senpai?
>Just swamp my shit up
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>>172313257
who's there
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>>172313190
There'll be no DLC3, but I'm sure there will be a DaS4 eventually, because money.
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>>172313297
Yes, you get absolutely nothing for doing it since you fight Midir later with 0 changes. Not even a health penalty.
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>>172313325
>ng+7
Why do you people do this to yourselves?
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>>172313207
the shit load of hp in phase 2
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>>172312860
It does the same amount of damage as the Darksword at 40/40 plus a tiny bit of fire damage so it's not too bad at all. You can party the Weapon Art but if you're fast then the surprise factor makes it difficult to time a party and far easier to just roll away from, so you'll usually get at least one hit in.
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>>172313367
It would've been better if Jester Thomas was there.
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>>172313381
I DON'T KNOW
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>>172313372
From's contract with Bamco was only 3 games. Hopefully there won't be a 4th game.
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I've never had so many people rate a message before, the heals never stop. Too bad they never came when I needed them.
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>From did a better Earthen Peak as a part of DS3 than DS2 did it
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>>172313353
Well there was also Seath

>>172313430
If 2bat is already being this bad, the other bosses will be downright unbearable.
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>>172313325
>ng+ 7
lol that aint happening

Good luck literally sitting +20 minutes in the boss fights
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>>172313325
you wouldn't even be able to do it on NG
i tried
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>>172313203
Its the Firelink Shrine from Dark Souls. That is exactly where Frampt sleeps.
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>>172313373

Well, that sucks.

If you got like 1/4 of his health gone or something, that would have been pretty cool and perhaps worth the effort.
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>ng+7
>meta lvl character
>doing cringe dmg to midir and gael while they one shot me
yeah nah
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Lore me up on Judicators. Who are they? Where did they come from? Why do they serve Gwyn's lastborn/the Pygmies?
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>>172313449
Doesn't Bamco own the series? Can't they just get some other dev to make it? (not saying it'd be good)
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>>172312745
Thanks friendo.

Do you know where to find him after he asks you about the purging monument, though? When he talks about having a grudge and all.
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Is this something for Kaathecucks?
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I seriously want to murder the guys in charge of
>making all these shitty fucking swamps
>deciding to have these absurdly low drop rates
along with Tanimura for being atrocious at balancing and Miyazaki for being a dumb fucking gook that didn't care
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>almost 500 AR long, pure physical spear
from
please
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>that fluttering cape
>the lighting striking
Gael was trying so hard to be Orphan it was a little sad
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>didn't play the first dlc
>finished it in 4 hours on ng++++, struggled against friede's last phase mostly
>the floor mooks in the 2nd dlc hit me for 80% of my health
should I just make a new character for this?
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Can we talk about the desert sorc top? Jesus fucking christ it not only gives your female characters cleavage, I swear to god it upgrades their tits by 2 cup sizes too. I don't know if I should keep playing the game or jerk my dick.
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>>172313524
All the info we know: They're big guys
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>>172313373

You actually have to fight Midir on the bridge or you can't even enter his boss room, a fog wall blocks you.
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>>172313474
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>The pleasure of smashing down people using spear covenant with a Dragonslayer Armor build

I better play the shit out of this until this boss is nothing but gank squads.
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>>172313592
Where do you find this
It's pretty much the only weapon in the game I'm interested in at this point
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>>172313458
Sitting at about 2000 on one that just says 'fine work!' right in front of one of the angel pupae things.
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>>172313521
Same here, taking my sl120, 40/40 Str/Dex character through NG+7 and the dragon and Gael are just outrageous.
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>>172313325
if no one offers help in the next 10 mins i'll just give up and respec to 40/40 quality
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Unofficial dlc outfit power rankings

Zullies Witch Set>Slut Wear>Shiras Set
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>>172313524
The lore on them is aren't you glad that you got new additions to the lore instead of us tying together the bits of lore about Allfather Lloyd? Now you can't accuse us of rehashing plot points! We even gave you a new named character!

It's similar to the lore on Filianore, which is you wanted original characters, right? There you go, an entirely new child of Gwyn! Way better than rehashiong content by making it be about Velka or Gwynevere! Who cares about those old hags?
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Where do you find the angel summoners? I want to explore but these shits are getting annoying
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>>172313584
she's just a nice old lady
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>>172313579
nah

I've only just killed demon prince
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>>172313751

>Velka

Pls stop.
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>>172313751
I literally thought the entire time they were hinting at Gwynevere. Like, why the cock tease? It doesn't even make sense to add another daughter.
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i want the ringed knight hood, maximum fashion
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>>172313524
Their title is similar to the name of a boss from DeS
They came from the great pit of creative bankruptcy in the sky
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>New dragon does godzilla atomic breath
How does From get away with this?!
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>>172313787
first one is along the path that column falls and breaks the wall that lets you find Lapp

second one is on a roof in the area that leads to the desert lady, you need to walk on roots to get there

third one is under the bonfire leading to the demon prince boss fight
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>>172313792
>pilgrims
>nice
I bet she'll give me ashen STDs if I say I have business with her.
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>Aquamarine Dagger actually is not very good in PVP
Big disappointment. Mages got cucked again
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Lorefags, for real

what's the best fucking ending? I just want to do the right thing
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Where is Lapp after Earthen Peak?
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>>172313745
don't forget iron dragonslayer armor and lapp's set ;-)
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>>172313927
On a balcony near the first Ringed City bonfire.
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Is this a good time to migrate to PC now?
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>>172312543
Gael was enough for this fight for me. I'm SL75
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is lvl65 / +8 just too low for a scrub playthrough of ashes of andariel?
i got bored of dying to things i've died to before (most recently dragon armor) so i went to painted world and FUCK these covian rapier motherfuckers
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i love you lmao2doors
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>final boss to the video game series of our generation is a random dude from another DLC

i mean

alright

anyway, how do i get to the other side of the room here?
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>first try demon homos
>get pass first stage easily enough
>start getting assraped in second stage
>out of estus
>silver of health left
>pop an ember to heal
>kill him while one hit away from death
That was the highest point of my life, it can only go downhill from here.
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>>172313890

Even if the WA is good it would still be crap cause you have to twohand it.
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>>172313871
show respect for your elders, love
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>4k
i bet it would go all the way up to 8k if he was allowed to use his 15 estus, kind of a chore desu
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>>172313890
How many fucking disappointments are we going to come across before we get to the end
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>Princess Guards was my fav Covenant in DS1
>OH SHIT Church Spears are Princess Guards 2
>Looking forward to guarding this Princ-

Well played Memezaki. You got me. You got me real good. Fuck. I'm not mad but mang I do not rike. Oh man that felt garbage.

Also
>Midir while doing just 280 damage per hit

The true Dark Souls starts here.
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>>172313994
He was in DS1.
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Am I missing somethig or are these crawling blue hollows infinite spawners
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>>172314118
there's an invisible wall in the back room if you're off the first bonfire

not sure if you can make them stop spawning
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>>172313808
I'm sorry Anon, I forgot we're not supposed to bring lore elements mentioned in past games. Have five new children of Gwyn as an apology.

>>172313832
The worst part is that the story basically writes itself.

>Gwynevere is Queen of Lothric
>Oceiros does some messed up experiments to breed Ocelotte
>Gwynevere is fed up with all that and runs away from Lothric
>She escapes to the Ringed City, whore royalty has ties to her father and is the last place where she can find sanctuary as the world is going to hell

If you literally stick her in Filianore's place and rewrite the description of the Small Envoy Banner, then maybe give her some dialogue, maybe tying her up to the Untended Graves and Ludleth, you have a perfectly acceptable character conclusion to years of the fanbase asking "so what happened to goddamn Gwynevere"?.
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What was the deal with all the Donut Steel in this dlc?
>Ledo, the Silver Knight that was always better than his classmates at school, who was the only silver/black knight who used a hammer. He was friends with Smough and when everyone else was an illusion in Anor Londo, only the two of them remained with Gwyndolin.

>Shira, daughter of the Duke, Seath? descendant of gods, and trusted friends to the abyss-dragon Midir. At once, I am the honour of the gods, the glory of fire, and the fear of dark.

I can forgive Lapp, if only they explained where his armor came from. I can only assume he beat up the bearer of the curse and stole his shit.
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>>172314086
People said new hex staff and spells are 10/10.
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>>172313068
I swear, they could not have cut the centrepiece used in all the marketing at the last moment. Not even From are that inept. It has to be some kind of prank, like making us think all the answers are there in plain sight but just out of reach. It's so fucking asinine and trite, I would genuinely rather believe that it was just cut. It's like Miyazaki tried to pull a Phantom Pain on us but without even trying to give it an actual purpose like MGSV at least tried to.
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>>172312637
Bet silver knights did more to hunt dragons than that fat sack of shit
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>>172313896
The end of fire ending. You've seen now how for 3 games straight, that linking the fire is NOT the solution. In fact it only makes things shit. Gwyn denied the cycle, by linking the fire, and thus set into motion all the shit we've been through.

Let the fire fade, and let the natural order of the world set into place. The firekeeper tells you, that one day new flames will rise in the future - so its not the end of the world.
Also do not listen to the Kaathe shills/hollows. Its the most edgy and worst ending. You've seen how the snakes fucked over Oolacile and New Londo.
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>>172314094
enlighten me, i wanna hear the lore gymnastics behind this one
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i want to hold Patches hand
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What happen's if i resurrect Argo? do i gotta fight the boss again? do i enter that covenant?
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>tfw I love it and nobody can stop me
Good bosses, good items, good enemies
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>>172313896
The end of fire.
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>>172314225
now you're just being a contrarian for the sake of being a contrarian
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>>172313896
End of Fire, hands down.
Pull the plug. Linking of Fire worked in 1, but it doesn't work anymore. And handing it over to Londor just screws everything even worse.
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>>172314225
How did you kill Midir?
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Ringed Knight weapons are some of the best things in the entire franchise.
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>>172314186
Are you the guy who's been loring it up for two threads now? If yes, what's this thing about the sun being the darksign? Was gwyn lying about being the lord of sunlight?
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>>172314194
He is the pygmy who found the dark soul.
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>>172314273
If you can't kill Midir you need to stop.
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>>172314282
Tell me about them.
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thank fuck demons scar and fap3 are early so i can get off my damn pyro
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Do the fatty knights drop their gear
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>>172314225
I think some of the weapons are cool but the bosses are mostly a letdown.

Gael I would probably think a little more highly of if he wasn't literally the final boss of the dark souls series. The fight was only bad during phase 1 and I found the ineffective ways it tried to evoke Orphan of Kos pretty funny.
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>>172314297
No, i litterrally just woke up, and entered the thread.

To your question I have no idea, i will need to finish the DLC first
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so this is how dark souls ends huh

with evil santa claus
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>>172314220
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>>172314273
just stay in front of him and try to bait his melee attacks, guess and fail when he's done with his combo and maybe get 1 hit in, spend your already fleeting punishment windows healing, curse/whine/cry when he does his fire/laser shit, repeat
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>>172314387
Good thing I fought Midir last which was a fine final boss to the series.

Gael died on try 3 just facehugging him with a greatshield.
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>>172314414
At least it's a really impressive Evil Santa Claus.
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>>172314353
SURRENDER IS NOT AN OPTION
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>>172314342
This is beyond retarded. Let me rephrase that. You are beyond retarded.
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>drop sign at second bonfire
>help people kill angels
i am good summon
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>>172314447
>facehugging him with a greatshield.
Disgusting.
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>>172314447
>Midir
It isn't THE worst dragon fight but it's like the second worst. I guess it's fitting in the sense that it's the end of From's endless bullshit on the subject of dragons.
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Is there a shortcut I'm missing to the 2nd ringed city bonfire?

It feels like there should be a shortcut back to the bonfire around the swampy area, but I must be missing it

Do they really expect you do do that fuckgauntlet of slowly picking off the 6 (SIX) hollow-heads one by one, after fighting 2 ringed knights and then move onto another area before you get a shortcut?

I haven't explored the swamp area very thoroughly since i went left at the bottom of the stairs and the Cleric there decided to whip out a fucking Zelda Spin Attack that none of the others did that killed me from 80% health through my shield

Please tell me theres a shortcut nearby there, I'm getting mad
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>>172312891
This is what I was about to ask. They featured that tower in every trailer/promo picture and you can't even enter it.
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>>172313896
End of Fire or Usurpation, which one you pick depends on your outlook. If you do End of Fire then everyone and everything dies and the world with it, but one day a new Fire will be born and give rise to new life. You can euthanise the sick world so a healthier one can take it's place, though you can have no place in it and no one will ever know your sacrifice. If you Usurp the Fire, Dark replaces Fire as the dominant force in the universe and the end of the world is stopped, but in this new world order things likely follow the same rules as the old one and Dark will one day have to give way to some other force, though presumably by that point someone else will have figured out a way to Usurp Dark like how you Usurped Fire and the world could theoretically keep going like that, but unlike the End of Fire the new world won't be hospitable for all life only your kind of life.
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>>172313524
Is this complex?

They're Giants. Like Gough and the blacksmith of Anor Londo. They served Gwyn like every other Giant did back then. He sent them off with Filianor to guard her sleepy-seal, and they shitfucked all the dudes who came to find the Dark Soul, until their job was basically taken over by a pet Dragon.

>>172313751
Don't be silly Anon. Everyone knows that tying things into logical events from past games is FANSERVICE. You don't want any of that now do you?
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>60 STR
>Dragon layer Great axe has 722 AR
>Hits the DLc dragon for 250 damage
Does some one want to explain this? Thisn igger is supposed to be putty before lightning. All these niggers are.
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>>172314353
he's no joke - what's your problem?
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>>172314484
>Helping people in the easiest part of the DLC
It's their fault if they can't see the pupa
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>>172314484
Maybe but you're a terrible person. Everyone should have to suffer through that just so they can earn their shit-eating grind when they finally find the pilgrim.
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>Chloranthy Ring +3
>Ring of Steel Protection +3
>Wolf Ring +3
>Ring of Favor +3
>Covetous Gold Serpent Ring +3
>Covetous Silver Serpent Ring +3
>Havel's Ring +3
>Ring of the Evil Eye +3

Are these all the rings added in TRC? It's all the ones I've found so far at least.
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>>172314529
They had to cut content from this DLC so maybe Ledo's set was supposed to be inside
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>>172314353
some people literally can't
like me
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>>172314469
> You are beyond retarded.
But i'm not Miyazaki.
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Where is Lapp after you show the location of the purging stone?
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To anyone wondering who hasn't seen it yet, the Seething Chaos pyromancy from lmao2bats is utter dog shit. It's a sticky grenade, sort of. It only gets to do it's full animation with full damage if you DON'T hit an enemy or person. You need to throw it on the ground and hope something is near it's explosion after the like the solid 3 to 4 full seconds it takes to explode. If you hit an enemy or player with it, it just does a small amount of damage and that's it. No delayed mega explosion like it would if you throw it on the ground.
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>>172314564
>>172314565
invader opinions need not apply desu
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>>172314342
no he wasn't lmao
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>>172313967
The Mausoleum lookout?
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>>172314118
The mage ones with glowing blue staffs make them respawn. They're usually hiding in corners, the first one is behind an illusory wall.
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>>172314603
bottom of shared graves -- to the right after ducking into it to avoid the flames from the dragon
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>>172313458
>Put down a meme or lie
>Get loads of rates
>Tell people a genuine fact or tip
>Nothing
Fucking faggot ass community
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>/v/'s shitposting about Gael being Artorias like it was a bad thing was actually more interesting than what we actually got from him in the DLC
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>>172314575
>Ring of Favor +3

where tho
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>>172313557
They don't. They're only a publisher
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>>172314691
branch near the start of the swamp part
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>>172314461
stop as in stop playing the game. He's not even the hardest thing in the game, just the most boring to kill because it takes an eternity.
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>>172314691
the swamp angel
up a branch by the mushroom guys
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>>172314691
think it's on top of a root in that poison swamp area after the earthen peak bonfire
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Where are the pants of this set ? I only found the garb and wrappings outise the Midir arena.
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>>172314676
Gael blows Artorias out of the water and I'm glad they revisited a boss moveset like that and made it far better.

Gael is also a better character than Artorias.
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>>172314691
dreg heap on the huge tree trunks by the third angel
speaking of did we actually get any new lore on the angels or were they just kinda there
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>>172314220
Anyone?
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>>172314553
Everything in the seems to have huge absorption. My DSGA +10 was doing something like 100 per swing against the Demon Prince.

>>172314624
You misunderstand. You're taking away the feeling and the satisfaction of finding the pupae and being able to explore freely.
You'd be the type of parent that would cripple your children in their 20's-30's because you doted on them so much in their early life, rather than teaching them how to look after themselves. You're a terrible person.
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>>172314762
nah
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>>172314745
It resets the Spear of the Church boss fight, yes. But I don't think you need it to join the covenant
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Anyone able to help with Midir? Password dsg near the long drop
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>>172314586
>>172314556
>>172314273
His head takes quadruple the damage of the rest of his body. Don't even bother with anything but the head.

Sticking right by his eyeballs and whacking his horns will make him use his claw swipes a lot. The second is weirdly delayed, but he always leaves his head lowered for a while after. The overhead pound is much the same. The standup roar bite is tons of free hits if you can block it, or just a couple if you need to roll along with it. The charge is very predictable, but also unblockable.

When he goes on his retard rampage, just move to his left or right so you can roll through the first fire sweet, then sprint after his dick the entire way, because he can't hurt anywhere but in front. That way, when he stops, you'll be in position to smack his head. His standup firebreath is just "run away". His sweep you can roll into and slap his head. His straight is easily sidestepped. If in doubt, a fire blocking greatshield can laugh at it.

Shin Godzilla beam is always a static pattern, and does not track you at all. Memorize it once, and you can just stand in one of many blindspots. Pursuer swarm is just "spam roll".

Constantly stay on his face, don't fear combos, and be actually really aggressive, and he's easy enough. The last chunk of his HP is even just a scripted riposte. Beat him NG+4 solo second try.

Tears of Denial helps for the final nuclear fuck you Second Impact beam though.
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>>172314729
Loincloth is in the swamp somewhere, dangerous to pick up without kill the angel first.
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>host and phantoms actually try to fight me in the open while I have angels providing close air support

I can only assume it was their first run through and they didn't know where the next safe spot was
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>>172314552
We haven't seen giants use magic before, have we? Unless there were any magic-using giants in Dark Souls 2, but they have little to do with Anor Londo giants.
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I can't do it, I can't fucking beat the demons.
Every time I try and get a summon they immediately book it for killing the Demon from Below, and I always end up fighting a very angry Prince alone because the fucking phantom was an idiot who brought that completely overkill instakill meteor attack upon himself.
Please, for the love of god help me. PS4, Pass is dsg. Feel free to berate me for being a shitter when we're done.
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>>172314651
That's how its always been throughout the series.
Although I did get 50+ upboats for my message pointing out the illusionary wall to Quelana's pyro tome.
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>>172314158
Therewas that single item description in Dark Souls 1 that said she married the Flame God Flann and moved to his place, but Flann isn't mentioned anywhere else ever, even in Dark Souls 1 itself. You'd think a God of Fire would be pretty important in a setting where Fire is the driving force behind the universe, but apparently not. He might have been cut content or something, there's an unused item portrait in Dark Souls 1 that resembles a Lord Soul only with more flame that isn't Gwyn's Soul or a prototype version, so maybe there was meant to be another Lord early on in development.
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>>172314729
That's the new Loincloth you get in the Dreg Heap swamp.
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>>172314553
>He fell fort the dragon are weak to lighting meme.
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>>172314741
>>172314710
>>172314714
how do you kill the angels? I only managed to kill one by finding the 'real' angel
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>>172314806
>The last chunk of his HP is even just a scripted riposte.
I KNEW IT WAS TOO WEIRD A STAGGER TO ACTUALLY NOT BE A SCRIPTED SEQUENCE
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>>172314806
but i literally can't do enough damage
i run out of FP and 10 ashtuses when he gets to around half
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>>172314817
>>172314854
Shit, I didn't realize. I already have that.
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>dragons are extinct
>wait no they're not there's this big gay grimdark dragon lol

omg miyazaki u r amazeing
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should i refund my season pass?
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Second bonfire of ringed city on ng+7 is fucking annoying. They really inflated HP and damage values too far.
Great encounter design and all but holy shit.
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What should I tell the pilgrim hag after the first bonfire?
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>>172314762
>Everything in the seems to have huge absorption. My DSGA +10 was doing something like 100 per swing against the Demon Prince.
I noticed this too. Why?

>>172314863
They are supposed to be.
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>>172314835
dont summon so they dont have as much hp.

took me forever until i realized all i had to do was stay between their legs without locking on and hit them with a strong weapon to stagger
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IS THERE ANY NPC INVASIONS? IM TIRED OF WASTING EMBERS
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>>172314158
SHE LEFT WITH FLAME GOD FLANN YOU FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>172314827
Define "magic". The Ruin armour says that the soldiers got their shit pushed in and they had no choice but to swear their souls into service as glow soldiers. The Spears of the Church serve the Judicators for even more obvious reasons. Yelling really loud to summon people in isn't sorcery, nor exactly out of theme for Ancients.

Also, the promo material showed art of him and literally called him a Giant.
>>
what's the weight of the desert sorcerer chest armor?
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Is SoC still the best boss fight of 3?
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>>172314740
Gael's entire character amounts to
>I want the dark soul for loli's painting

Artorias was bound by duty and valued his forest friends greatly, so much so that he gave up his shield for Sif's sake. There's not much in either case but Gael is just as shallow as Shira. And she was a typical NPC fight, as Gael should have been. Instead he's the grand finale of dank souls.
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>>172314863
You're hitting the fucking ground you god damn retard. Mostly.
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>>172314651
I have 400 ubvotes in firelink for a meme that invites anal sex
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>>172314950

Midir was their descendant. Also did you forget the everlasting dragon in Ash Lake?
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Does the Soul of the Demon Prince have two different descriptions? The info that appears in wikis is different than what seems to go in the actual game. Unless it was patched out or something
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Ringed City Review:

>Pros:
- One of the best boss fights in the game
- 3 great soundtracks (Couldn't hear Spears, will report back)
- Dragonslayer Armour armor
- Ringed Knight armor is pretty sweet
- Decent miracles
- Three goddamn amazing settings
- A literal firesword
- I can't think of a weapon that isn't interesting on some level
- Some DS2 shit finally
- Old Monk shit is fun as fuck godbless

>Cons:
- Gael being the final boss is a fucking joke
- Demon Prince had 0 context in the DLC and was a waste of time when he was already supposed to be dead lorewise
- Filianore is literally thrown away asap
- Filianore is Filianore and not Gwynevere or Caitha or Velka or Gertrude like what the fuck we've never heard of this bitch
- Angels are thrown away I M M E D I A T E L Y
- No firekeeper mask even though an item description literally makes reference to it
- No tracers even though an NPC literally talks about Ciaran
- No Felkin set even though it's literally in the files and an NPC literally talks about him
- Ledo's set is fucking cut
- What the fuck is this painting shit literally no one cares
- Every fight in the DLC has massive pacing issues
- DLC is literally the most frustrating DLC ever to do more than once because hoho dodge angels/dragons
- Dark Souls 2 is brought back only to be reinstated in the exact same way it was: almost as linear as DS3, really ugly, and cut as fuck
- Probably the singular biggest lore location in the game, yet absolutely 0 lore was gained by the entire DLC save for Zullie=Karla fags getting absolutely blown the fuck out

I'm probably going to make a sorcerer, grab Midir's sorcery, then just mule literally everything else aside from a character dedicated to spearing. Fuck everything else, this DLC was exhausting.
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>>172314918
>being a sorcerer on NG+7

Found your problem.

Simple up a greatshield and spam flash sword on his head. I've killed plenty of bosses just playing like an ultra-lightweight straight sword faggot with my only spell as flash sword.
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>>172315046
Gael is a better fight IMO.

SoC is still second best though
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>>172315046
Nah, that title goes to Gael.
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>>172315120
fuck off to the steam review page tbqh
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>>172315135
>on NG+7
this is regular fucking NG
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>>172315018
I've had 3 so far. Ledo, Eygon and Alva. They don't happen until you get to the city itself, though.
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>>172315040
80085
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>>172315030
"SHE JUST FUCKING LEFT" IS NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH A SATISFYING CONCLUSION FOR SUCH A MAJOR CHARACTER IN THE SETTING you gigantic faglord megazord.
They even brought back the Firstborn, for heaven's sake. Is it so unreasonable to want the real Amazing Chest Ahead?
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>>172315154
Miyazakidrone pls
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post em
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So who the fuck is Filianore and her embraced shell and what's the deal with that wierd cutscene ?

Also, you can't hit her as there's some invisible wall around her and if you shoot arrows, they'll go right through her.
>>
Why the hell do none of the bosses in this DLC take no damage?
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>>172315046
>Gwyn fanservice
>Good
>Second healthbar
>Good
>Le its u
>Good

Pontiff/DSA/TP/NK are all infinitely better fights.
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>>172315018
Quite a few, and i got invaded by them without an ember
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>>172314835
>"summons make this bossfight too hard!"
>"clearly I need better summons!"

Find your testicles and fight them solo. They have pathetically low HP if you don't have a nanny along. Bitching about people not holding your hand hard enough by not being able to solo a boss you can't either is the epitome is shittery.
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>>172315202
Miyazaki likes Angel's egg so he made it a set piece, thats most of the creative process behind Dark Souls despite lorefags protests.
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>>172315187
i nerf your favourite item next patch
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>>172315179
the WEIGHT nigger, not ID or shit
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>>172315120
You're literally saying "literally" way too much and it makes me uncomfortable.
>>
can someone explain to me why, instead of using the one time it would have been good to reference past lore, they make up brand new OC donut steel characters for literally no reason and make the final boss some random old faggot from the other DLC
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>create new character
>name him Yharnam
>give the painter the blood
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>>172315018
Alva and Ledo, plus Shira in the final area but she doesn't have the dark spirit shader and she has dialogue so I don't know if she's treated the same as other invaders.
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Hows Great Deep Soul? I'm hoping to convert my pyro into a hexer so looking for advice on which dark spells are good.
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>>172315104
>You hit the puddle that makes miracles stronger
Really leveling up my intelligence. Also hit the dragon and puddle which did 312.
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Anyone got a pic of the painting with the serpents? im at work and need to see it.
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>>172315168
>unironically using crystal soul spear and then complaining about running out of FP

I wonder what could possibly be the problem with using 10x the FP to do 3x the damage. Hm.
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>>172315054
Artorias is just as hollow as Gael in that respect. I just think a time-worn hollow that fought an ungodly number of battles as the flow of time and the world itself collapsed around him, all for his duty and devotion to the painter, is much better.

It's even more interesting with the implication that he didn't expect to make it back, but still sacrificed himself, either due to madness or through indomitable will and hope that the ashen one would finish the task for him.
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>>172315293
>not Ariamis
CONVOLUTED
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>>172315296
>>172315175
Do I have to be embered?
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>>172315284
I'll delete some of them for future posting just for you, maybe
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>>172314848
Is unironically leddit
Nice tits btw
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>>172312557
>Sinh is a good fight
Just chill bro, I'm not done flying yet haha just wait a little longer lmao
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>>172315120
>Three goddamn amazing settings
Dreg Heap sucks, Ringed City looks alright but is maybe slightly larger than the size of Irithyll up to Pontiff, also factoring in how its swamp is probably 1.5x the size.

The final map would be great if the "boss arena" wasn't stuffed into the far corner. Why they don't have the two castles in the background overlooking the thrones at the center is baffling.
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>>172315337
which is the most FP efficient, then?
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>>172315202
>introduce previously unknown Gwyn daughter in the final DLC
>the only "lore" about her is that she always sleeps and mustn't be awakened
BRAVO
R
A
V
O
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>>172315302
Thought that was because it was a direct hit and that if you used lightning spears it would be better.
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>>172315203
I, for one, like the fact that none of them take no damage. Taking no damage would make them very difficult, if not impossible, to beat.

>>172314863
Are you actually retarded? Your sunlight spear hit him in the ankle, and the lightning stake didn't connect with anything but the secondary AoE. Get your shit together. 191 to the ankle is fuckloads more damage than I could do with my sword.
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the entire first part of this dlc (between dreg heap and earthen peak) was literally just nonstop screaming. What the fuck are these ambushes
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>be hexer
>demon prince takes 150 dmg from my great deep soul
T-thanks
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>>172312683
Drakeblood GS is godly with DMB slapped on it
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>>172315298
haven't had the chance to play the DLC, but great deep souls was pretty much the bread 'n butter of dark magic.

If your oponent rolls backwards a lot, cast twisted wall of light before casting great deep soul to make it arc in the air. Won't hit unless they roll backwards. You can also cast affinity and afterwards time twisted wall of light as soon as your oponent enters affinity trigger range, twisted wall will make the dark orbs fly in random directions while still tracking your oponent.

Anyone here tried using twisted wall of light together with the new dark spell? Want to know if you can also make it bounce
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>CURSED
Fuck this bullshit, there wasn't even a buld up.
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>>172315426
>she's slumbering lol but its fake slumber
>ok
>oh there she is
>end

>>172315457
hes weak to fire maybe?
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>>172315279
that is the weight
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>>172315424
>Dreg Heap sucks
I think it was the best setting of the DLC.

>Ringed City looks alright but is maybe slightly larger than the size of Irithyll up to Pontiff
It's all the swamp, which is a big flat open space full of randomly placed mobs.

>The final map would be great if the "boss arena" wasn't stuffed into the far corner. Why they don't have the two castles in the background overlooking the thrones at the center is baffling.
Yeah, that's pretty dumb.

>>172315426
Holy fuck, this. Why.
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>>172315426
>the lore on her egg is that she uses it to rest her head
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>>172315432
Nah he's just resistant to everything, plus he used lighting spear at the beginning.
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>>172315425
Damage to FP, like I said, flash sword. Damage to FP as a projectile: heavy soul arrow. How have you done an entire sorcerer run without bothering to even work this out?

Flash Sword is 4 FP per swing; 3 with the dusk ring. With 60 int and your mandatory sorcerer gear, it should be hitting just a little less than a quality straight sword does. Heavy Soul Arrow, or else Great Heavy Soul Arrow, are a quarter of the cost of Crystal Soul Spear and do basically half the damage.
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>>172315457
>no EZ mode for you
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>desert pyromancer garb is back
and I just had to get shot in the asshole by an angel to find it
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Spoil me /dsg/, there's more than 1 ending to this dlc and wrap up to the series. What are my choices and what do they entail?
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So who the fuck are these Ringed Faggots

Gwyn's knights who didn't get any credit?
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>>172315539
so the desert top is 4000 times heavier than the Dragon Tooth???
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>>172315426
Same thing with Yhorska and no one complained
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>>172315572
it's been a REALLY
long time
since i did PvE as a sorcerer
so i kinda forgot
guess i'll try those things
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>>172315180
The firstborn was always a more interesting character, a disgraced heir of the main god, that's much more interesting
He was also the chief god of warriors of sunlight, and as such has a direct presence in all games
Big tits are good, but we've never even met her, she left long ago, stop thinking about irrelevant as fuck characters like her and whoever is fucking that ass
>>
KILLING THE ANGELS MAKES A NEW ONE SPAWN, DO NOT ATTEMPT
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>>172315591
There isn't, though
The only choice you have is whether or not you want to tell painter loli your name which does nothing
Then you kill Soul of Cinder again and you get different credits music which has been in the game since 1.11 came out
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>>172315584
I hope your dick is ready.
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>>172315642
there's weird things you can kill so they don't respawn but you have to find it
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>>172315642
killing the pods makes them die 4 gud
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>>172315457
>One from the abyss
>not immune to hexes

you had it comming desu
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>>172315609

Pigmyes that fought with the Gods against the dragons, then Gwyn fucked them over
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>>172315591
Nope, The Ringed City doesn't even have an ending let alone give new ones or change existing ones.
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>>172315609
They're the guys that the Darkwraiths try to imitate but fail miserably at.

>>172315630
Are you really arguing that you'd rather have Filianore than Gwynevere because Gwynever is irrelevant?
WHAT'S THE RELEVANCY OF FILIANORE?
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>>172315613
Yeah
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>>172315630
you are the firstborn :^)
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>>172315630
Nameless King would've been a much better final boss for the series than Gael desu. Obviously they would've had to put a bit more work into the fight itself
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>>172315642
If you kill the grub looking hollows they die, they're just glorified traps.
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>>172313367
Did they ask people what the worst areas of souls games are and just put it in the dlc? I fucking hate swamps.
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In this thread: /dsg/ goes from endlessly shitting on DS3 for referencing previous material and answering old questions, instead of coming up with entirely original material that connects to nothing like DS2, to a 180 switch overnight, bitching that the new original material is meaningless lore and wasted opportunity, and that it should have been tied to old material and using old characters.

I'm just shitposting. I know the former camp is basically just two guys over and over again.
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>>172315609

No, they were normal humans. They were man's soldiers during the war with dragons, but the DaS1 intro makes it look like man didnt join the fight.
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If only we could hold Gael's Greatsword the same way he holds it...
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>>172315569
yeah the demon homos were pretty resistant to death for me except from the exile greatsword
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How the fuck am I supposed to kill the judicator in the middle of the swamp without being gunned down from 5 different directions?
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Anyone else play according to the rule of "invade for new humanity every time you die?"
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>>172315751
HELP I AM GETTING AMBUSHED BY ONE WEAK MOB FUCKIN DAKR SPOLS 2 WHERE IS MUH HONOR
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>we didn't even get to visit Londor
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>>172315792
Does his phantom in the Painted World use his Greatsword now?
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>>172315828
just run past him
the only thing worth killing in the swamp is the dragonslayer
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>>172315120
>- Demon Prince had 0 context in the DLC
Did you even read? The Dreg Heap converge the times and gets everything that's trash from it put there. That's why there's so much das2 content (no pun intended). That's why Eygon's there. That's why Lapp is there.
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While I know sorcery didn't get much aside from another slow moving projectile and a mediocre sword blast for PvP. I have to say the Preacher's Arm is really, REALLY obnoxious. It's faster than most weapons in the game and hits really hard. And still has high spellbuff.

I hope Fromsoft nerfs it.
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>>172315841
>we didn't get to kill Lilliane
There is still one snake-worshipping harlot out there.
This is not okay.
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>>172315706
I'm telling you I don't give a fuck it's not gwynevere because it has minimal relevancy, it could be any cunt that warps you and likes having a nap, doesn't matter
Gwynevere has no fucking reason to be sleeping in a hole at the end of time
She might as well be fucking dead for all it matters, we've never even fucking seen her in the flesh
It'd just be another ebin reference for no reason
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I thought Midr was going to be nearly impossible when doing the first few attempts where I only got him to his second phase a few times before dying. But then I managed to stagger him and took a huge chunk of his health and killed him in 2 hits afterwards.
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>>172315841
Was not Anor Londo just Londor
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>>172315865
Does he not drop anything?
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>>172315841
Londor is New Londo Ruins which is the dark(er) version of Ringed City. They have ties with each other since they're both of pygmies. Who cares. Kill me.
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>>172315829

I use the "always dried finger" rule
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>>172315862
Don't know, haven't checked

I think his phantom at Demon Prince uses the Executioner Greatsword, so I don't think they would
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>>172315004
>>172315260
Thank you for these encouraging words, I finally got the fucker.
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>>172315876
Eygon's in TRC, not Dreg Heap. If they had put an angel boss there, we'd have context on the Angels.
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>>172315841
>symbol of Avowal being all over the place means absolutely fuck all
>no third sister
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>Ringed City is full of new Frampt statues

This is homosexual, what the fuck man where's my final boss fight against the Primordial Serpent?
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Now THIS is podracing
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>demon princes hp bar in ng+2
>AFTER you've beat the 2v1

>no one is complaining about this, just the dragon
can't wait to see how fucked that fight is
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>>172315813
>They still get shit on by gnaw
Feels good being a faithfag for a little bit
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>>172315921
>Mugenmonkey still not updated

I
NEED
THEORYCRAFTING

EEEE
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>>172315929
It's literally a fall and a boss fight to the Ringed City. Are you implying my boy eygon wouldn't be able to deal with those shitty demons?
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>>172315893
As opposed to a pointless character that has no purpose or story associated with it, so in that case at least let the people who want the reference have it since you have no goddamn reason to defend the currently implemented character either way? Heavens.
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Was it Miyazaki's intention to leave the players feeling hollow? As if the dark abyss itself has sucked away at my soul, I feel a sense of total discontent, almost dazed and confused.

That's it. That's really all there is. And there will never be more...
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>tfw got invaded when fightning him


Also projected heal is pretty handy.
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>>172315841
>people thought we'd visit londor and get angel/ serpent lore
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ok
I've got 3/4 desert pyromancer pieces
but I died again to the angel in the swamp

how 2 get past
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>>172315968
I'm stuck on the dragon in NG+7, it's fucking miserable. The Demon Prince imo isn't too bad.
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>>172315959
At least they pulled this shit with a decent boss this time, no covetous demon 2.0
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>>172315983
He couldn't deal with DSA, so yes, that is what I am implying.
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>>172312682
I WANT THIS STUFF GET BACK!
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>>172316010
there are cocoons that spawn those angels. find them.
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>>172316013
A-alex?
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What's the difference between pygmies and normal people?
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I SHALL PARTAKE
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>>172315957
>spend a good five minutes dredging through the edges of Gael's boss arena looking for a snake corpse in the sand
>maybe even some snoring
>>
the worst part about the midir fight is how every fucking flame knocks you down, further fucking up your already rare chances of hitting him in his fucking dark sniffing nose.
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>>172316002
Meant to reply to >>172315959
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>>172315970
yeah they get shit on by bam bam BAM BAM
>dead

that was me for 4 + hours ng7

>>172316013
if i reach the dragon tomorrow i'm scared it will take me 3 days to beat him

at least he doesnt have multiple health bars and is only one r-right?
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>>172316071
FUCKING
MANLETS
>>
If there's one thing I'm happy about this DLC is that the Desert Sorceress outfit looks fucking hawt. Also the NPC you fight with the thralls was pretty fun.
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>>172315959
Shit like this is why I don't give a fuck about lore.
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>>172316071
Pygmies are normal people, they were called pygmies because they were small compared to the gods
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>>172315990
What the fuck does it matter, both will not fit and are poorly integrated, having one show up that we already know of for literally no fucking reason other than a throwback and recycling is fucking stupid though
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So those "friendly" locust preachers you see in the city
They give you a sermon when you first get within range and then say something else when you talk to them manually. Are the two separate sermons? They're obviously related but they don't flow into each other right.
Has any one made a transcript of their dialogue yet?
Also, this guy has my favourite VA in the series as of now.
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>>172316153
he just respawned bro
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This view is some vertigo shit.
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How do I open that king's decree door?
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>>172316153
Because DSA is cool or because it's nonsensical?
I don't give a shit about lore because I just like fighting big monsters.
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>>172316243
you actually try to open it
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>Greatsword + heavy armor build
>Do ~600 damage per swing to mobs
>Do 200 damage to Gael, mashing the dodge and he still punishes me 3/4 of the time before I get out of the animation
Then the "epic" fight turned tragicomedic when I busted out a greatshield and a spiked club. Thanks for fucking up the boss resistances and HP From.
>>
Is there a rip of the new tracks?
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>>172315609
>>172315609
Applying basic reading comprehension to anything, they're humans who were around when Gwyn was, who were commanded to join the armies sent against the Dragons, and then got zero credit for it.

They're from the very oldest human civilization, which willingly dabbled with the Abyss, while living in the light, which the gods made Marge Simpson noises at. The Gods tried to jam as much Fire into all their stuff as they could to seal any Dark influence, and told them to Just Say No To Drugs, and the knights themselves begrudgingly accepted it.

The city is built to glorify and venerate Gwyn and the gods, and has his own daughter and priests/judicators/the spears to keep them on the right path, because they live right next to the Abyss, and human nature is that Dark calls to them. The locust fucks came from the Abyss to try and win them over and take humans with them, with sermons and holy bullshit of their own, but most just started eating everything the instant they saw the light.

Sources: ringed knight hood, ringed knight weapons, preacher's right arm, practically everything Shira says.
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>>172316234
Also thank the gods for the beam demon. It was way eaiser than the other one.

>>172316275
DSA is a great fight, especially at higher NGs
>>
Where do I find the place to fight Midir? Already knocked him off the bridge and done the rest of the bosses.
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>>172316234
>finger
>around the angel area
Mad man
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>>172316196
>>172316153
It's literally a disembodied suit of generic armor from Gwyn's dragon hunting days
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What's a good weapon to accompany Lapp's set?
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>>172316275
Both, honestly
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>>172316347
Access it from the lift near Gwyn's statue.
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>>172316358
It's my dlc "rule". Fun stuff
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>>172316314
Locusts are grade A lying shits, just like most things of the dark
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>>172315664
>>172315675
>>172315747
Bitch where
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>>172313741
I did it in NG on a sl25 character with +2 weapons.
I think that's roughly as hard.
The fight took me 35 minutes.
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>>172316164
Was Gael the furtive pygmy?
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>>172316378
Great Doors. Be the Doorman.

On another note, YOU CAN ACTUALLY DIE FROM THE DROP THROUGH THE GLASS. BRAVO FROM
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>>172316452
Say "ahh" http://www.ign.com/wikis/dark-souls-3/Where_to_Find_All_Angel_Hosts
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>>172316479
Ha ha, fuck no.
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>>172316153
Ironically, the DSA's set is actually fairly important to understanding what the fuck is going on in the DLC.
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>>172316534
thanks mommy
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>>172315293
>mfw I named my first chatacter Yharnam when DS3 released
>>
I touched the egg before killing Midir apparently, now priestress wont talk to me

did I fuck up?
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Gael is the most disappointing final boss ever.. unless VaatiVidya drops the deepest lore!
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can't make it through swamp; am slaughtering hosts. this is the cycle of abuse
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demon prince first try, solo lv125 ng++

literally get on my level
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>>172316450
>>172316450
They're basically youtube lorefags except easier to listen to and slightly more attractive.
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>>172313325
Get gnaw bro
>>
>tfw you want to make a cancer heavy exile greatsword miracle healer for the spears covenant but you're waiting for mugenmonkey to update
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>>172316479
Absolutly not, I think that the furtive pygmy didnt exactly exist in the sense that there was many as we see many pygmy king in the big desert.
The pygmy might have been the Mad King but we will never know

However, Gael is very ancient, judging by his appearance and armor description, probably one of the most ancient character alive in Dark Souls.
>>
who's the guy that already beat the dlc?
>>
>>172316682
Me?
>>
is Splitleaf any good for PVE?
>>
>>172316571
you're welcome sweetie
>>
>>172316704
should i waste time on this?
>>
>>172316716
yeah it has good damage, range and can be used with 40 str only.

the wa isn't that useful against the tough stuff
>>
>torrent DaS1
>start playing
>gotta pick up the key from the body that Oscar dropped
>press Enter
>nothing
>press every button on the keyboard
>nothing
>change the settings
>nothing
>download DSFix
>nothing
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>>172316725
>>172316571
>>
>desert pyromancer garb
really?
is there anything unique at all in dark souls 3 or is the entire thing just 'hey remember this?'
>>
>>172316753
On the DLC? Why not? You bought it didn't you?
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>>172316619
You have the same accessibility Vaati does to any and all info the game has to offer. With a little common sense and logic, you can figure anything out that he can. Stop acting like lore only exists if he takes the time to spoonfeed it to you. Or worse, don't be like those fans that assume anything he says is the only conclusion or possibility within' the lore and "unless Vaati says it's true it's only speculation".
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>>172316783
it's for anime faggots
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>>172312682
There are a lot of really cool armor sets that got cut, sadly.
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>>172316636
Kek
Not vaati though, he's worthy of the homoerotic shitposting he gets
Just a big a liar as the damn bugs though
>>
>>172316783
I'm still fucking salty. I killed all the titty mages to extinction, used an ascetic and killed them all into extinction again and didn't once get the full titty robe.
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>>172316675
It seems like the Pygmy passed his soul shards down through the line of Ringed City Lords that succeeded him
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>>172316805
But Vaati has a cool voice and edits his videos and does all the heavy lifting.
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>>172313325
Just a heads up, I did this on NG+10 on my mage character. All of the bosses are heavily resistant to just about everything.

Your only option is to use Gnaw
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>>172316783
>'hey remember this?'
"literally who" last boss
>he will bitching about last boss too
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>>172316829
Out of ringed city I think that's the only one we know of
Heavy and burial are technically in, but not in their OG forms
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>>172316932
>But Vaati has a cool voice
>>
Where's the cleansing shrine or whatever it's called that Big Fat Knight guy is looking for? I have looked everywhere and cannot find it
>>
i decided to noclip to that tower they kept showing off

theres literally nothing there

its not even textures properly

fuck off
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>>172313896
End the cycle, anon.

Unless someone finds a secret ending where you go inside the painting after putting out the fire.
>>
Justify summon 3 phantoms /dsg/
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>>172317016
Max 2 summons that further questlines.
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>>172317009
>Implying killing the painter and linking isn't the patricians choice
>>
>>172316774
>playing multiplayer games offline

lel, go away.
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>>172313994
You mean the Dark Soul? Because that was the real final boss, not so much Gael.
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ITT: people who are actually /OURGUY/ and are misjudged by neo-/dsg/

I'll start
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>>172316479
Where do you bumblefucks even come up with this? I've genuinely lost track of the non-euclidean loops of autism gymnastics that people's perception of lore has gone through.

The Pygmy is just the first Pygmy. That's it. The Witch of Izalith begat the Witches. Gwyn begat the gods of Anor Londo. Nito begat the entire idea of "the dead". Pygmy begat the Pygmies. His/her/zhir's identity is entirely irrelevant, and likely not even concrete in the first place.

All you really need to know is that humanity descended from the original Pygmies, and by the time you get to their shitty little play pen Gwyn put them in, they're all long since withered husks sealed behind seven layers of time is convoluted.The pygmies themselves are not figures of lore importance in Dark Souls, merely ancestors to humanity that informs the player why humans are important.

If it really bothers you, you can still stick to the idea Manus was the original, and just stayed in the dark, dank-ass hole everyone came from after his kids moved out.

Gael is explicitly 100% totally plane jane human though. He hulks out at the end because he couldn't get the blood of the Dark Soul from the pygmies, because they'd become husks already, so he ate the Dark Soul itself offscreen, and you got the blood of it by Gael's literal bleeding after eating it. His gear tells you this, and says he did it "knowing it would ruin him", because he is an extremely loyal lolicon.
>>
The Angels are literally that *AUTISTIC SCREECHING* meme.
>>
>>172317120
DSP
>>
Zoey "fanart" when?
>>
What does it mean for the Pygmy Lords blood to have dried?
>>
where is angel memes?
they're flying gundams
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>>172317120
Go away Vaati. You have Reddit threads to plagiarize.
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>>172314848
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>>172317120
Go away, vaati
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>>172317127
>someone unironically took the time to write this

>>172317120
based
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So where is that one unknown spell and the silver knight captain set? Is it cut content? Are they planning on a 3rd DLC?
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>>172317120
I want to have sex with that handsome Aussie
Nohomo
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>>172317132
ASHES GET OUT OF MY DREG HEAP

REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172317215
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>>172317215
this is the last dlc and souls game
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>>172315702

kek at least they ramped up the waifu sets 200%

Gonna take my sweet ass time if there's no ending
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Redpill me on this guy
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god playing this shit dlc made me want to play call of duty modern warfare

I need someone to knock me out cold for a while
>>
>>172317215
Yes
No
>>
>>172317226
YOU HAVE DIED
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>>172317296
Hollowed Gwynevere
>>
>>172317296
Kill him for his mask
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>>172317297
>he actually played it
>>
>>172317297
i tried the prince for six hours

i think it would be faster to try a ng character that's in the right sl range
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>>172317296
Velka
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>>172317296
It's Solaire
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>>172317296
There's 4 of them and they constantly tell you how nice it is to join all your friends in the abyss where they are absolutely not trying to murder you.

Side note, I'm pretty sure the final preacher was refering to Sirris as the one who slew her kin but I can't find her invader spot.
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>>172312752
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Does the Milkring give any extra invincibility frames or is it just fashion?

Should I use the Bloodring to avoid the angel's lasers?
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How do I get past the fucking angel above the swamp in earthen peak ruins?

If I'm luck, I can make it to the roots without being hit too much but then when I start to go up I get hit by 50 attacks in a row
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someone please hold my hand, where tf is the angel's cocoon in the swamp
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>>172317296
He's your new best friend
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>>172317357

Prince is one of those endurance fights especially on ng + 7

I'm not sure I wanna solo this just by testing 1 fight
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>>172317193
The blood of the Dark souls bearer allow the painter loli to paint a new world, however, the pygmy lords bloods is all dried up after milenia,so it's no more useful as a pigment thats why Gael eat them and their Dark Souls so that is blood may be used by the Painter
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>>172317214
Clearly Gael is actually the Pygmy then, who just misplaced the Dark Soul, and forgot about it for millions of years, and then goes on a quest to go find it, by slaughtering it out of his own descendants, and then was overwhelmed by the power he was the original wielder of. Yes.

Do you sometimes forget to breathe?
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where the fuck am I supposed to go after gael
how do I join the spears of the church
!!!!!!!!!
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>>172317394
Hide behind the roots and eat poison damage until he does the curse mist attack then sprint like hell.
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>>172315841
Londor is a human/hollow city. We've never got to visit a location outside of Lordran/Drangleic/Lothric.

Instead we got to visit a city that rivals Anor Londo and the place where Londor ripped all its shit off from.
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>>172317446
where the fuck am I supposed to go after gael

hope u enjoyed the DLC :)
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>>172317375
Where's all 4 encounters of him? I think I missed one
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>>172317127
Wouldn't it be the blood of people who possess the Dark Soul? Also if every human has a piece of it how can anyone possess it?
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>>172317446
You need to kill the dragon, the chick behind the locked door will feed you all the info you need to find him.
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FREE EMBER GIVEAWAY EXTRAVAGANZA

All you have to do is use a Red Eye Orb at this exact location and your cup shall runneth the fuck over!

! F R E E ! E M B E R S !
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>>172317413
i'm only ng plus 2

patches ol boy helps make the first part easy but i can only get prince to half health and it takes so long. even when i coop on peoples ng this fight is ridiculous. he has so much hp. i wanna die a little.
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>>172316153
I thought the Dragonslayer's Armor was just, well, the armor of a Dragonslayer possessed by those weird tree moth things.

Like, there's more than one. Same as Havel popping up everywhere. They're his knights.
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>>172317174
Zoey getting consensually gangbanged by her thralls when
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>this dragon

>''Hey guys! Remember how everyone LOVED Ancient Dragon in DS2? What if we do that again but also give him the ability to move and add a god awful camera!''

>''You truly are a genius Mr.Hideo Miyazaki!''
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>>172316646
IT'S WORKING
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>>172317163
Literally the only post that was right
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>>172317496
I can't remember exactly, but the 3rd and 4th one is from the same location, he just changes dialogue after killing Ledo.
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>>172317574
don't cry
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>>172317081

DS1 is so dead that you couldn't tell the difference anymore.
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how much poise do i need for a great hammer
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>>172317532
>that stamina bar

the madman
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>>172317591
Side note friendo, Gnaw doesn't scale so use the branch chime and sages ring for maximum dps
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>>172317660
about 350
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WHERES THE WOLF RING +3 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>Pygmies
>Pigment
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>>172317531
What's her deal anyway? You talk to her, then she invades you at the end when you explore the ash desert after killing Gael. There's more dialogue with her? Do you have to kill Midir first and then talk to her?
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>tfw Demon Prince headshots you with his laser
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>>172317524
You just answered your own question.

If he just needed the blood of regular humans, why for fuck's sakes would he go to the end of the earth to eat a handful of shriveled prunes? There are humans all over the fucking place.

His soul, and the blood, tells you in order:

"When Gael came upon the pygmy lords, he discovered that their blood had long ago dried, and so consumed the dark soul."

"The red-hooded, wandering slave knight Gael sought the blood of the dark soul as pigment for the Painted World. But Gael knew he was no Champion, that the dark soul would likely ruin him and that he had little hope of a safe return."

The pygmies had no blood left. Nothing to make pigment out of. He ate the dark soul they had between them instead, and then bled it all out of the hole in his chest to make pigment.
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>>172317215
They're covenant rewards.

You get the dark miracle (50 FTH / 18 INT) after turning in 90 that summons Silver Knight Ledo near the person. He does his weapon skill and fucks off. Then at 300, you get the Silver Knight Captain set and Shira gives you her stuff without dying.
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>>172317691
kill the seeker of spurned NPC invader
up to the left of 6fatties
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>>172317296
Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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>One of the two demons one shot me on ng +7

1800 fucking hp. No other fucking boss can one shot me

What is this bullshit
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>>172317695
DEEPEST
LORE

>>172315054
Artorias is literally just some furry knight who got raped by Manus/fought Dickwraiths and then succumbed to his Manus jizz after saving his furfag friend and crawling back to Oolacile.

At least Gael found what he was after.

Alonne is cooler than both desu
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>>172317574
Salty baddy getting cucked by an easy boss detected.

>>172317704
There's dialogue with her after basically everything. She gives you a slab if you kill Midir and come back, so looks like it sucks to be you.
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where is lapp after the ringed inner wall?
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>>172317759
where is the broofs
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>>172317809
Post end game content.
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>>172316514
I've been working on that actually.
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>>172316949
gnaw is dark, right?
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>Using Past Lothric's Lords of Cinder to link Present Lothric's fire from Future Lothric's kiln
>Also kill future future future world's Gael to paint a world for past world's Gael

deep

lore :)
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>>172317704
She's from the church but she locked herself away on other church duties and ask you to kill Midir who's her friend that is getting cancer from eating all the Darkies. She'll have more dialogue if you rank up in the covenant and avoid waking Fillanore.
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Any good ultra greatswords come out of this?
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>>172317741
What a fucking trooper. All so his dragon loli niece could finish her art project.

Speaking of which, is that an ending or do we just give her the pigment, she says she'll name the painting after us, and that's it? Because I thought the whole point of this was making a safe place for all the survivors to hang out in after snuffing the fire and waiting for a new First Flame to emerge.
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>>172317809
>no other boss can one shot you

HAHAHAHA. OH BOY. JUST YOU FUCKING WAIT.

Fellow NG+fag here. Midir can destroy you from full HP with 50 Vig and 35% absorption. Prepare Tears of Denial.

>>172317818
We've already triple established by now that the Abyss predates Manus being woken up by Oolacile. The guy was fighting it for a long-ass time before he finally met his end by bumbling in on a guy who can ejaculate Affinity danmaku.
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Where the hell is the tower that leads to the dragon? the bitch keeps whining that I didn't kill it hard enough
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>>172317661

is that low or something

34 endurance seemed Fine for the last year or so
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>humans can turn into dragons now

Literally just making shit up
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How do the ringed city bosses compare to the ashes and base game bosses? Same old or 1 tier harder?
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>>172317910
Does Cahthedral of the Deep Gael react somehow if you already finished TRC and have the blood of the Dark Soul in your inventory ?
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Does Demon Prince react to Lorian's helmet like Raime did to Velstadt?
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>>172317928
>>172317829
I haven't actually played the DLC yet, I was just wondering what to do.

So kill Midir and rank up in the Spears before waking Sleeping Beauty? Got it.

Also, is it true that the twin-ultra great swords Ringed Knights have a chance to drop slabs?
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WHERES THE SHORTCUT TO THE "RINGED INNER WALL" (THE SECOND BONFIRE)

I just hit the third bonfire, but it seems like i missed a shortcut. Can anybody tell me where it is??
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>mfw Demon Prince
>mfw that big meteor storm
>mfw that fucking huge meteor storm
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>>172317980
Humans have tried that since the first game m8.
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>>172317949
When going down the elevator in Ringed Wall Overlook bonfire (something like that name) there's a wall on your left you can enter during the ride down. There's an illusionary wall in this hallway as well as a drop down. Hit the wall, boom, continue to dragon
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can somebody help with midir pls
PC
outside his drop
password dsg
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>>172318001
yeah he says deep lore_____________________
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>>172318001
Wouldn't that be a fucking time paradox?
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>>172317704
You can encounter her in the desert before fighting Gael. Just go straight to the ruins to the right.
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>Those frampt armadillo statues before the dragon boss
You tease miyazaki.
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>>172317949
You know the elevator from the Ringed city wall to the Church? Look for an opening while riding it.

>>172317998
Demon Prince - Best Demon fight
Midir - Best Dragon Fight
Spears - Lol PvP stomp
Final Boss - Good, but not enough for the final boss of the entire series.

>>172318012
Saw it on stream so yeah

>>172318020
Don't worry, you find it at the end of the Ringed City.
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>>172318038
Try killing them in another order. You can also interrupt the meteor storm
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>>172318082
time is convoluted ;)
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>>172317910
I actually think the DLC was the first time "time is convoluted" has been done well. It's concretely acknowledged in the narrative itself, that the further you progress towards the world's end, the harder time dilates, and the more fucked things get, until it becomes blatant post-apocalyptica. You're at the edge of the literal universe, and everything goes by faster and faster as you push onward, until you've already seen the end of everything and everyone you know has passed you by. It's a step up from how vague the Untended Graves were, and several steps up from Tsorig v Tsorig.
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Who are the niggers of Dark Souls universe?
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EVERY FUCKING WEAPON IN THIS DLC IS EITHER QUALITY OR A CASTER GIMMICK

FUCK YOU MIYAZAKI NOT EVERYONE PLAYS THE GAME WITH A STRAIGHT SWORD AND A MEDIUM SHIELD
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>>172317998
They're all godtier, aside from an obviously disappointing finish.
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>>172317936
>We've already triple established by now that the Abyss predates Manus being woken up by Oolacile
Ah, got it.
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hmm
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>No rewards depending on which demon you kill last for the prince battle

Fucking hell
>>
So before I go wasting chunks, tell me what turns out to be better. Izalith or Murky?
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>die after killing swamp angel
>doesn't respawn
jesus walks
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>this shit in DS2
>find it in DS3
>it's a giant longshot into a hole
So did the elevator shaft just keep existing along with the tower? is this deepest lore?
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>>172317931
I have no clue. I just did everything in the DLC as a 7 hour marathon and decided to take a break.
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>>172313389
You barely need estus for p1 though.
There's nothing hard about it.
Or does he get a gorillion health on ng+?
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>>172318154
>double ultra greatswords
>two ultra greatswords in one weapon
>ultra greatsword x2
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>that one Ringed Knight wandering the desert
kek, he also drops a Slab.
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>>172318258
Don't fucking play with my emotions here. Where is this knight?
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>>172318154

>Not using the doors as your weapon of choice.

You're fucking missing out familia.
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>>172318248
>It's a quality weapon

yes. All the cool stuff is 40/40, get over it.
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>>172318149
I gotta say, after waking Fillianoire and just seeing her desiccated corpse in a sea of ash and rubble really hammers home the whole "end of everything" aspect they were going for.

We were already at the end of the world with Dreg Heap, and now we're at the end of the world's end of the world.

Did Gael do the same shit as us baking waking Filly or did he literally just sit there until time and space fell apart?
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>>172317931
That was never the point, that's dsgs headcanon
Painter just wants to paint a new world for lonely souls after the burning of the old world, it has nothing to do with some ashes wants and desires
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Midir on NG++, took 2 hours. The music on the second phase was 11/10.
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>>172318247
i can't fight him solo on ng so no idea, but i'm lower sl so my damage is also shit
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>>172318213
Yes.
and then you fall into Firelink Shrine for some godforsaken reason. World is literally a fuck
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>>172318303
From Filianore's rest go as left as you can. He's a dual UGS knight.
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>/v/ is already dumping on it as usual
So how is it really?
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How do I get to Midir?
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>>172318397
Get so SL80 or something.
Ez pz.
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>Patches as a summon for the church boss
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>>172318258
Do they respawn? Because farming for slabs is the only thing DaS3 fucked up with. There's a lot, but it's still a finite number and then you have to move onto NG+

>>172318394
Has anyone checked to see if it opens a new ending?
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>>172318430
Pretty good, but the ending sucks and makes me hope for another DLC.
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>>172317980
Guessing you don't remember any of 1 or 2 do you?
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>mfw finally get to use black knight weapons against the demon fags
>mfw bonus damage

who else feeling good?
>>
>>172318430
utter trash, miyahacki has sunken even further
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>>172318303
Not him but you get a free slab from lapp when he's at the earthen ruins
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>>172318212
>Demon in Pain
>he's not actually in pain
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>>172318481
His Slab is a one time drop. You can farm Slabs by reviving Judicator Argo at the Purging Monument and killing the Spear of the Church boss over and over.
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>>172318465
all my hosts and their summons die in the first phase on ng in that sl range

everyone also does garbage damage
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>>172318467
>shira for the midir fight
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How do you access the dlc bros?
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>>172318430
Pretty good. Cements the fact that ds3 has the best bosses.
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Is there supposed to be like a cutscene or something after you beat Gael to signify you beat the DLC or is that it?
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>>172318545
he is cringing at how bad i am at him
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>>172318561
>You can farm Slabs by reviving Judicator Argo at the Purging Monument and killing the Spear of the Church boss over and over
Oh thank God. And that better not be a glitch they patch out later.
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>>172318467
>summoning
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>>172318574
Kiln, look left
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>>172318587
no
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>>172318467
he's a qt

>>172318614
return to reddit
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>>172318184
Any one?
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>>172318587
Go back and talk to painting loli to give her dark soul and get some extra dialogue.

That's about it. I think Bloodborne spoiled us.
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>>172317741
Is my humanity too puny to make pigment with?

Why do we kill him just after he succeeded in his quest to find Dark Soul-infused blood, instead of letting him go home to the painter, or at least try to?

Does all this imply that Ariamis/Ariandel, who made (restored) the original painting, was one of the Pygmy Lords, or at least killed/had one killed? Since the blood of normal men isn't concentrated enough or something?
>>
So the locusts are just abyssal faggots that want to eat you. Did the people they reference willingly get eaten like Alva or did they just fall to it when they hollowed?
>>
>>172318012
>Also, is it true that the twin-ultra great swords Ringed Knights have a chance to drop slabs?
>Knights
>plural

What?
>>
Izalith or Murky?
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I CAN'T KILL DEMON PRINCE
Tried poisoning him, no effect. Soul spear deals less damage than my hexes, and he's 100% immune to fire
I would try faith but I have no catalyst for this shit
>>
Redpill me on Filianore.

Is she genuinely asleep, and waking her up causes the world to collapse (possibly something to do with light being time according to that one miracle)? Or is the pygmy right, and she's a deceit and the whole place is a bullshit illusion? I thought that was less likely considering how long Gael's journey apparently took, but shit's confusing

Or is there no meaningful difference because Lord magic is weird?
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Post build/level/NG+ cycle and weapon along with boss attempt #s

lvl 100, NG, 12 str 50 dex, started with a +5 valorheart but then upgraded and subsequently used sharp sellsword twinblades +9, also had a Sniper Crossbow +9, 2 attempts for every boss except the dragon took only one

I wish I'd not been lazy and made a sorcerer for the DLC, I've only ever done new content as STR or Dex and I think it'd be interesting to see how stuff feels first time around as it

I was spoiled on and planning to use the dual UGS cause I loved double smelters in DKS2 but I really don't like the running stab starter swing for it in pve so I just ended up sticking with the twinblades the whole time
>>
How do I finish Lapp's questline? I think the last place I bumped into him was near the swamp and he said that he couldn't find the purging monument. Where is the purging monument?
>>
What's the verdict on the new chime?
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>Fall into the demons lair
>They literally ree at me

great game
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Does anyone have the item description for the ringed knight shroud/veil/head slot thing? I can't find it anywhere, please help!
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What is midir strong/weak to?
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>>172317936
>We've already triple established by now that the Abyss predates Manus being woken up by Oolacile
Manus birthed the Abyss you double retard, he is its father
>>
>>172318694
He's gone insane, corrupted by the dark soul. His item descriptions state he knew this would happen so him guiding us through the messages seems he deliberately wanted us to slay him after he went insane.

Also I want to believe that the blood of the dark soul that drips in the cutscene isn't enough and you basically need all of his blood hence why we kill him. Remember the canvas is huge. The original ariamis painting takes up a whole wall in the cathedral in ds1, and we don't know for sure if the painter will use the canvas shes with in the attic.
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>>172318154
>tfw 12 dex
I can get away with the dual greatswords with the hunter ring but that's literally it, unless I go 60 (S I X T Y) STR for the hammer.
At least I have enough VIT for the DSA armour, tho
>>
>>172317296
It's Miyazaki's self-insert telling you to buy his games and that RC will answer all your questions.
>>
>>172318804
good for co-op
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>>172318728
There's one before the cathedral and one after waking Fillianore in the desert.
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>>172318775
The former

>>172318781
SL120, 27 STR / 32 DEX / 33 LCK, I'm using Anri's Straight Sword and I buff with poison or bleed.

Demon Princes: 3
Darkeater Midir: Still trying
Spear of the Church: 3
Slave Knight Gael: 2
>>
>>172318154
>CASTER GIMMICK
what?
>>
>>172318723
Fall to it I think.

>Alva

At one point is it implied he was "willingly" eaten? Locustbro's story is ambiguous enough he could've simply given up on life after finding Zullie's corpse.

Most locusts are assholes who just want to eat your face, I wouldn't trust them.

>>172318758
There's no easy answer, I'm afraid. Think of it as Friede's second stage, just dodge, get in, hack 'n slash, hump their legs on the rebound, rinse, repeat-

>soul spear
>fire
>poison

oh shit

yeah, you're fucked without melee
>>
>decide to play through all the games taking 0 damage
>all bosses and no shield because I'm not a pussy
>took about 2 months to do demon's souls
>5-2 was a turbo bitch
>couldn't use thief's ring as a crutch since there's fall damage to get to it and no fall control in the game
>dark souls 1 was surprisingly easy
>most resets were to failing the duke skip
>only took about 3 weeks to get a complete run done
>start dark souls 2
>fall control is sold be the dragon dude in the iron keep, or ornifex in brightstone cave
>to get to ornifex you have to take fall damage
>to get to the sinner you have to take fall damage
>to get to the rotten you have to take fall damage
>so the only way to go is to the iron keep
>smelter demon has a fucking damage aura around him
>it's not possible to beat him without getting hit by the fire aura

what a fucking joke of a game. I've even tested by cheating in climax and unlimited souls and you still can't beat him in time
should i just give up or skip him or ignore the damage aura or what?
>>
>angels bombarding you with magic shit
>next area is archer gauntlet

it's like i'm playing gears of war
>>
>>172318352
You know, I legitimately wouldn't put it past Gael to do the latter. That guy is something else.

>>172318694
Yes, you are a thin-blooded derivative descendant. Humans are not good enough. By the time you find him, he's already mad from consuming the Dark Soul, and trying to literally eat people. I wouldn't let him near the painter either.

As for Ariandel, you could take it that way, but I think it's much more likely that the secret of making the painting by blood just died with him, or else you could maybe decide Painted Worlds can be made with any kind of blood, and painter wants the bestest blood ever.
>>
>>172318184
>wasting chunks
I only just did the first Midir thing and have racked up millions of the fucking things. Ringed Knights drop them, I think.
>>
>>172318938
git gud fag
>>
>>172318938
Stop being autistic
>>
>>172318749
I would like to know the answer to this myself since I've already spent a slab on Izalith.

I think it's a court sorcerer's/crystal situation where one is better overall but the other is superior if you use its special spell buff. The Murky has a special spell buff for dark magic.

>>172318758
>Tried poisoning him
>poisoning the poison demon
>>
any reason to kill the giant on archer bridge?
>>
invading at the earthen peak bonfire is literally free fucking embers. Sit still and the host gets smacked around by angel bolts and you win
>>
>>172318723
The preacher's right arm says they actually came out of the Abyss, and were created to lure humans in with sermons.

The Abyss is its own realm, dude. It's had native life forms since forever. It's not totally empty until a human wanders in.
>>
So i met lapp twice, now met him and he asked about the monument. Do I go back, tell him and then he should meet me at the shared grave?
>>
>>172318818
Everything. Nothing.

>>172318694
>Why do we kill him just after he succeeded in his quest to find Dark Soul-infused blood, instead of letting him go home to the painter, or at least try to?
Have you fucking seen him? Dude's seen better days.
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So... what was in Filiananaaornaornore's egg?
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>>172318909
Thought so, thanks.

>>172318891
>It's Miyazaki
>implying Miyazaki isn't a giant locust in disguise

FTFY

>>172318826
>birthed the Abyss
>father

I mean you're not wrong but that choice of words

>>172318807
Demons have a lot to reeeeee about really

>be newfound communist demon kingdom
>bara bishie asshole murders the royal prince
>who also happens to apparently be the keystone of your race's ability to repopulate
>entire race is genophage'd
>>
>>172318885
>the messages
The messages?
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>>172318563
I had 600AR with my UGS almost 700 buffed.
And remember that the boss gets buffed health if you summon.
Just solo it. Respecc and get another weapon if you have to.
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>>172318807

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ASHEEEEEENS LEAVE NOWWWWWWWWWWW
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>>172318996
>not running out to put pressure on him
You sound like a fag.
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>>172318430
Good except for the lore and "ending". If you don't care about any of that you'll like it.
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>>172318561
>>172318604
Do you still get it if you kill him offline?
Trying to farm slabs while ending up in 5min duels sounds like a chore.
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>>172319114
>who also happens to apparently be the keystone of your race's ability to repopulate
Oh. Oh yeah that's bad.
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So where would you guys rank Spyro amongst the other dragon fights? I think Sihn is still the best in the series.
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>>172318968
that doesn't answer my question you fuck.
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>>172319201
I was gonna and he died before I got there. He summoned a sunbro for it too as though that would help
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Why couldn't Filianore be Velka instead? or have Velka as the final boss, considering she started this all?
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>>172318885
>Painter makes a mistake
>has to scrap the current canvas and start over
>GAAAAAAAAAAEEEEL I NEED MORE PIGMENT PLS
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>just beat Demon Prince

Well this fight was tilting at first, but after I managed to get through p1 with 1-2 estus I actually had fun
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>>172319040
please respond
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>>172319234
Honestly it sounds like a lot of fun. Like regular PvP except you get a slab if you win.
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>>172318342
You get 30AR from 40/40.
Literally more beneficial to run it on 40str.
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Does the Demon Prince fight change at all if you use Lorian's armor or his sword?
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>>172318694
>too puny

...you're an Unkindled, not an undead. You're ash and embers in humanoid form, not the squishy darkness traditional undead are.

Remember the hulabaloo about the wolf's blood and then the Dark Soul's drying up? You're literally one of the driest things in the land.

>kill him

Mercy kill. Much like what's being done to the painting, in fact.

>Ariandel/Ariamis

We're never getting a straight answer for this one, so I might as welll go full headcanon:

Their lineage either comes from, or includes Priscilla, judging by the incumbent painter girl's draconic eyes and scales-and therefore blood of the archdragons. Perhaps they have just enough dragon blood to be sorta-outside the cycle of fire and dark, and that's why they're qualified to paint worlds without being kin or not kin to fire.
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Is it possible to kill Midir on the bridge encounter at the Shared Grave bonfire? I've been trying for a while but his flail attack at like 25% health where he swings everywhere then coats the bridge in flame seems to be unavoidable.
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>giant in the swamp respawns
WHY
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>>172318615
I heard you can also access it from Elfriede's boss room. Is that true?

>>172319270
Midir looks the coolest but it'd be better if he flew around more like Sihn did.
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>>172318775
She is real and asleep. Her slumber is part of a seal which puts a hard cap on how timey wimey the edge of the world can actually get, and keeps the Pygmies themselves contained.

Waking her up ends the spell, and thus completely decompresses all grip on time the seal actually had at the literal border where reality ceases to exist. She's been there for so incredibly long that continuing the march forward into linear time means that she'd already long since died, the Ringed City had turned to ash, and the Pygmies were near-lifeless husks.

Basically, she was real, and you fucked it up so you could get at the Dark Soul.
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>>172318990
You could poison his dad
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>>172319270
Tbh I still like Kalameet more than Sihn.

And Spyro best of all. He's more of a Malefor desu

>>172319304
The real Velka was the friends we made along the way
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How do you open the door at the Ringed City Streets bonfire?
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>>172318818
I tested damage with a buffed Lothric Knight Sword at 40 INT/FTH.

No Buff: 192
Lightning Blade: 315
Darkmoon Blade: 217
Dark Blade: 197
Carthus Flame Arc: 202

Also tested status effects. He's immune to poison and toxic. Extremely resistant to bleed. Vulnerable to frostbite.
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>>172319114
>>birthed the Abyss
>>father
>I mean you're not wrong but that choice of words
It's a seahorse kind of feel

>>172319030
The Abyss has native life forms just like Chaos does, they're very similar
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>>172319334
Sounds like fun the first couple of times.
Then again, not like i'm going to need 200 slabs.
I've barely used the ones i've gotten.
The only time I got rekt was by a x2UGS dude though.
They're literally god tier for harassing and chasing down estus chuggers.
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>>172318781
NG++++
50 VIG, 40 END, 66 STR, 50 DEX, 30 VIT, just enough FTH to use Tears. more useful than the stats by far
Prince: 2
Halflight: 1
Midir: 2
Gael: 2
Those fucking faggot angel beamspammers: 10+
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>>172319452
Use the white branch in the swamp until you get the Humanity disguise.
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>>172318990
I did a little testing, it does seem like murky only dges out with the buff be a negligible digree. It's worse than izalith which is already pretty bad
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>>172313403
>It does the same amount of damage as the Darksword at 40/40

dont lie anon it does about 30 less damage than the dank sword
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>>172318960
>>172319049
I dunno about that one, anons. He still seemed pretty lucid and all of his savagery was in the service of his lady
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>>172319409
Debatable of those things are his son, desu. I mean they have different boss titles and all.

Not sure what's going on there but I figured it was two remnant demons hoarding the prince's lost soul like how Old Iron King picked up Gwyn's soul, and upon their death the chaos life energy stuff miraculously let him re-manifest back from a soul to a demon
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>>172318826
>Manus didn't exist until Oolacile woke him up

Golly that sure sounds strange. Then how would the Ringed Knights be making weapons in the Abyss at the same time foreigners from Oolacile were visiting on missionary business?

Perhaps you're just inbred.
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>>172319575
If he was lucid, he wouldn't be trying to kill you considering how he was leading you to him the entire way.
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>>172319128
The soapstone messages in the dreg heap. The ones glowing slightly saying you won't die with a phantom gael pointing down/ahead.

Interestingly, where those messages are you'll find that circle ring design that the turtle men and lothric use. Implying perhaps that Gael blessed those spots. The most damning is the demon prince one since there's no ash there but only the ring.
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>>172318723
I think I may go full on dark genocide with this DLC
Remove all bugs
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>Have really low expecations of the dlc because of all the negativity on /dsg/
>It turns out WAY better than my expectations
>Really fun


Thank god for /dsg/
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>>172319561
So I didn't waste my slab? Thank God.
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>>172318810
I had one drop by good luck. Here's my transcription:

The hood of the Ringed Knights.

These knights don Abyss-tainted black cloth, with layer upon layer hiding their eyes.

This was nothing less than an attempt to reveal that which the seal of fire has occluded, a subtle defiance of the gods' wishes.

i.e. being petty edgelords and rebelling against authority is probably why they didn't get any credit for slaying dragons.
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Can we even get to this place?
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>reinstate king's decree - 58500 souls
>he'll summon spears of the church to face trespassers
wait,what?he'll summon spears into my world?
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>>172319613
Not him but proposition: Oolacile is even more ancient than we thought it was
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>>172319575
Then why's he trying to eat me?
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>>172319374
Anon, Gael acknowledges that you have humanity within you when he demands that you hand it over.

Furthermore, because you are incapable of hollowing you must have your humanity always trapped within you
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>can't beat Demon Prince only because those two bats are pure cancer
Already hate this shit boss. Another Laurence 2.0
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DEMON PRINCE CAN GO EAT A FUCKING DICK
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>>172319803
it just resets the boss so you can fight another invader for a slab
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>>172319112
Time.
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>>172319749
>i.e. being petty edgelords and rebelling against authority is probably why they didn't get any credit for slaying dragons
I mean, they're the coolest edgelords in the entire series and judging by how fucking metal they are probably did most of the work while Gwyn's Silver Knights stayed behind and played grab-ass with each other.

>>172319765
Just for decoration and likely cut content.
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>>172319881
oh.
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>>172319745
Desu by /dsg/ standards I didn't even sense that much negativity. All things considered it still feels like a big damn fever dream, but in a good way. At the very least, it's way more ambitious than Ariandel.

Really, REALLY hope there's some hidden condition that activates additional dialogue with Karla though

>>172319803
Yep. Light is time, apparently. Also pretty sure spears of the church refers to the reinforcements in that boss fightp/spoiler]
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Just revived the Judicator, but the Spear only dropped a Filianore Spear Ornament when I defeated him. No Slab. Do you have to fight online players to get Slabs ?
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>>172319864
Just wait until you get to the dragon
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>>172314342
get a load of this retard
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>>172319864
first try :^)
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>>172319862
I'm sure you have some, I'm saying you have less than the undead of DS1 and DS2. Note that in Lord of Londer ending you gotta take on the dark sigils to be darkie enough to BLACK the sun itself
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>>172319881
50k souls for a slab? That's fucking cheap. And you get the souls from the boss again so it's basically free.

>>172319862
>because you are incapable of hollowing you must have your humanity always trapped within you
Unless you turned hollow by making holes where your humanity could leak out i.e. Dark Sigils.
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>>172319613
Consider for a moment that the visitors from Oolacile brought the Abyss to TRC, not the other way around
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>>172319873
>playing pyro build
>get to demon prince
>mfw

I guess i'll tickle him with my onyx blade
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>>172319864
2Laurence2Furious
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>>172319746
Jesus, I didn't notice how fucked up my post was.

I tested a +9 murky and a +4 Izalith. The izalith did better damage but the Murky out damaged it by literally 2 or 3 points of damage when you gave it the buff. Otherwise it was outperformed.

Shame. I was hoping for an upgrade to Izalith.
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>>172319991
what is your damage against bats and prince?
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So who the fuck was a human trying to become a dragon in the DLC? Was Midir originally a human or do you become a dragon when you become the dark soul?

I'm legitimately confused about what this anon said: >>172317980
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>>172319953
>Do you have to fight online players to get Slabs ?
Probably, but I wouldn't be surprised if these fags were just parotting that you can get slabs everytime you fight the boss.
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>>172319830
Gib humanity pls
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>>172320045
I-is sorcery viable yet?

I give up. I just wanna stand back and spray soul kamehamehas at him until one of us falls over.
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>>172320070
Like I said, glad I didn't waste my slab. Yeah, it's a little disappointing that Murky isn't better.
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anyone on pc wanna help ya boy kill midir? pass is dsg
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>FaP+3
>unique plunging attacks for the giants
This dlc is okay.
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>>172320070
you do realize that a +4 Izalith is equivelant to a +8 weapon right?
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>PC players will never hate Laurence
>NG+3 Laurence
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>>172320045
GNAW
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>swamp with angel and pyro bitch

What do?
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>>172318996
>Try invading at Earthen Peak
>Every fag has a seed out
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>>172319375
>>172319375
>>172319375
Bls resbodn
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>>172320141
Well then I gave the +9 murky and advantage and it still sucked.
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>>172320138
>piercing a gaping dark hole with a flaming sword

Doujins when?
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>>172320117
Is Gael history's most dedicated lolicon?

>>172320115
I hope it's true anon, because boss souls and slabs are so far the only reasons to slog through NG+
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>>172319374
It's unquestionable that the painter is descended from Priscilla. It seems that would be something that qualifies, rather than THE qualifier though, since the idea is that you can only paint a world if you have seen Fire but don't want it, which is nearly impossible for anyone.
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>>172318503

Not him but who did research on dragon transformation in DS1? The only thing that comes to mind is those shitty "dragon" forms.
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>>172320134
>Implying you can be helped against midir

All you get by summoning is making the dragon harder to kill, because your phantoms 7 estus will not last them through the fight.

>>172320204
>they cut the armor
ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR
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How do I find Midir?
I already beaten Gael
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>>172320186
Pack up.

Leave.

Hope Shrek kicks them out while you're on holiday somewhere else
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Manus was the Furtive Pygmy?
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>>172320073
621 against twins
293 against prince

black knight ugs at 60str 18dex
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>>172320247

check the elevator near gwyn's statue
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>>172320247
try going left when taking the elevator down from ringed city mid (or whatever the bonfire was called)
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>>172320247
in the room with the Gwyn statue, the priestress told you.

Read the fucking dialogues.
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>>172318152
Pyromancers
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>>172320042
Okay genius, then how did they have those Abyss-forged weapons to fight the fucking dragons, when Gough states that they're just about all dead save Kalameet by the time Manus is dug up?

You're wrong. Accept it.
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>>172320276
Perhaps
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>>172320286
Jesus.
STR is really EZ mode pve
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>>172320225
>since the idea is that you can only paint a world if you have seen Fire but don't want it, which is nearly impossible for anyone
Makes sense. Ariandel was a crow, not a dragon.
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>>172320342
he's not even using a strength weapon lmao
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>>172320194
I think it's actually required to get his boss fight. Knocking him off doesn't kill him.
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>>172320276
Eh, probably. Primeval man is the closest we're ever getting anyway. Also it makes sense that the wielder of the Dark Souls would father the Abyss.
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>>172320276
no
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>>172320226
>shitty

eat a veiny dick
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>>172320276

It's ambiguous. but there are plenty of signs pointing towards it, and the TRC brings nothing new to him
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>>172320318
what priestess?

>>172320309
what statue?

>>172320314
where is this elevator?
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Gael is definitely harder than Orphan

I recently did Orphan on NG+, and Gael on NG, especially by the time you get to the 3rd Phase, is much harder.

Midir wasn't all that hard.
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>Midir is too hard
>Boring boss have to walk behind him and attack shins
>He has a gazillion health

Have any of you even remotely tried to attack his head? I only needed 2 tries to figure that out
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>>172320225
I dunno, I mean-again, it's guesswork but the archdragons apparently had the ability to breathe fire long before disparity and such came into play. So I figured dragons somehow interact in fire in a way that's different to the undeads' urge to go burn up because they're naturally immortal and eternal.

Or something. Point is-dragons naturally don't seem to get anything or lose anything out of flame, it's just something they spit when angry from what I've seen

>>172320378
...okay, we're REALLY going into head-up-my-ass fanwank territory but on that note:

>King of the Storm is apparently considered an ancient dragon, has beak, 4 wings, birdlike talons and stuff
>Corvians outside the painted world mutate to have features like the King of the Storm
>It's been established the dragons have lots of degraded descendents like the wyverns and the hydra as early as DS1
>It's been established the undead at least can become dragons through covenants with them

I THINK the Corvians/crow "demons" might be very, very, very distant relatives of the dragons.
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>>172320342
black knight weapons are even better at 40/40
and i was wasting a ring slot to reach 18 dex
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>>172320332
Oh yeah except all the other dragons that we see at least once per game, that Gwyns dragonkillers apparently missed, right?
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>>172320104
dont worry hes just rambling
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>>172320529
I just want some kind of mod to make all the Fromsoft end bosses fight each other, like how someone somehow modded a way for Manus to fight Kalameet in DS1 and lose
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Best infuse for Splitleaf?
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>mfw I beat Demon Prince with a bleed build
It wasn't so hard in retrospect, I think it's just I'm terribad at dealing with pressure.
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>>172320603
heavy
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How is the dlc? I fell for the season pass jew and I'm downloading them now.
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>>172320378
>art thou a crow? or perhaps a dragon?

She knew.
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LOREFAGS

with the new info we have about seals and humans and the abyss

WHY DID GWYN GIVE A SHARD OF HIS SOUL TO THE FOUR KINGS
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>>172320656
Was it easy to proc bleed? Might have hope for my twink build come April.
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>invade at ashen peak they said
>it'll be free they said
>run into sunbro and a blueberry while I'm fucking around with two doors
>they gank me

Oh boy.
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Should this DLC be played before or after Soul of Cinder?
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>>172317296

When he says "Let the feast begin", be aware of the fact that YOU are the feast.
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>>172320656
demon prince is weak as shit to bleed
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>>172320661
This. I just moved to it and its great
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>>172320702
You will have a blast going through both of them at the same time.


Start with Ariandel.
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Im like 20 mins into the DLC and im ready to give up desu, these angle things are so anti-fun i just wanna give up, this is the least fun ive had in a souls game since the bed of chaos. Does it at least get better if i go on through?
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>>172320332
Nowhere does it say that they hunted dragons, only that they were early men
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>>172320729
>DS3
>invade
>they gank me

what the fuck were you expecting
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>>172320725
My Blood Barbed Sword has 84 bleed, and it proc'd once in every 5 to 7 swings.
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>>172320532

>2 tries

You mean 1 try you shitter.
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>>172317296
Has booty for days and will even twerk it as an attack No I'm not fucking kidding, they really do wiggle their ass at you
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is there any reason to kill the giant on archer bridge?
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>>172320557
And the uncle tom dragon Gwyn himself hired to look after his shit.

Maybe Gough was just out of touch from the major war being over and trapped in a tower for a bit

Maybe Lord propaganda was too stronk

>>172320656
This, the main problem is the Prince bossfight seems hand crafted to put more pressure on you than a university deadline

>>172320715
>She knows about King of the Storm
>mfw non-zero chance my headcanon was actually deepest lore

>>172320724
>nobody knew jack shit about dark and humanity at the time
>Gwyn thought these guys were cool, decided to give them his soul
>Abyss happened
>Gwyn realises he's gotta gas all the darkies
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>>172320854
I was expecting even odds for once.

I also keep running into people who are hiding somewhere after popping a giants seed.

And I spawn in the middle of the open. Fucking stupid.
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>>172320881
It stops the archers from spawning
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>>172320532
Alternating between head and tail is the patrician way to kill Midir. It's easy to cheese him into repeating his rearing up fire breath, so some people stay there under him for safety without realizing that's what's making the fight boring and slow.
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>>172320881
Yes.

t. Don Quixote

>>172320742
Before.
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>>172320557
Yeah and they're sure doing good on going to war against those random lizards at different ends of the entire world, by the gods' command.

You're being wilfully obtuse. What you're suggesting is:

Oolacile explodes -> missionaries come from it for some reason to try and convert Ringed Knights but give them the Abyss instead -> Ringed Knights make weapons out of it -> the Gods suddenly command them to go to war with the dragons, while they already own a pet dragon -> they proceed to not actually go to war with any dragons and just stay inside their city and appear nowhere else.

vs Ringed Knights make Abyss Weapons -> Gods tell them to go to war -> they do -> dragons are left with scattered survivors, one of which is domesticated -> Oolacile hangs around for a while then decides digging into the Abyss back home is a good idea -> Manus.
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>>172320917
>>nobody knew jack shit about dark and humanity at the time

except TRC had already happened, Gwyn knew all about humans and had sealed some of them up already, seems weird to give his soul up instead of just sealing New Londo too right off the bat
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>>172320843
their item description specifically states that they hunted dragons, but didn't receive any fame for it because they where filthy humans using abyss weapons.
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>>172320978
>Lord Gwyn, what about Kalameet
>LALALA CAN'T HEAR YOU shhh keep your voice down don't wake that motherfucker up
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>>172320924
>invading in an area where summons are common place
ding ding, invasions in DS3 are dogshit
dragon mausoleum is about the only viable spot because there's hardly any summons at the start
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>>172320801
Ok thanks, did they ever bother to fix poise or is hyper armor still the only defense that works?
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>>172320045
Black Fire Orb does 400 to the phase 1 bats, just time your orbs properly to avoid damage. In Phase 2, I stick super close and use a straight sword for chip damage and spam black flame when he's laser beaming. You'll get the occasional stagger for some extra damage. I found out hugging him keeps me alive a lot more. And if you start to familiarize yourself with his close ranged stuff, he's not that bad.
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>>172320952
but it's easier to run past him that fight, and the items on the bridge are garbage
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>>172314740
>people actually fucking believe this
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>>172321048
That's literally what happened though.

In other words though, the Abyss does not need to have been created the moment Oolacile dug Manus up for him to be its progenitor. If he created it forever ago, went to sleep, was woken up and had his pendant stolen, and then went bugfuck and caused its cancerous spread, everything matches up 100% with no jamming square pegs into round holes.
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>>172321162
Why the fuck are you asking, if you are gonna argue about it later you fucking spastic

Holy shit the autism
>>
Someone make a new thread
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>>172315951
To be fair you can see Liliane in the Usurpation ending, as there are two Yuria's so we can assume Liliane decides to get off her ass for the birth of the new world order.
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>>172316614
After beating Gael go to the ruined building right of the bonfire. Go all the way in and Shira will invade. Beat her and go back to the locked door and it will be open
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>>172319948
Play the fucking games you spastic
Most 'dragons' at anything but everlasting dragons
And there's barely any in game at that
Pay some fucking attention next time you cock gobbling retard
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>>172314740
>moveset

They did a callback opening and then the two were completely different.

Gael is entertaining in a sense of being a shitty old dude human who is "just that good", but if you made him a random gwynknight he'd be boring as shit. If you made Artorias a regular old human, though, he'd be even more badass. It's cheap informed appeal coming from offscreen accomplishments + implicit effort.

Artorias' cut voice lines alone ooze more character than Gael utters in his existence.
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Where's the purging stone Lapp is looking for?
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>Invade at Earthen Peak on Rosaria's
>Use white tree branch the moment I spawn
>Come away with 3 tongues because angels btfo'd the host and a darkmoon
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>>172320826
Look for a seperate beam of light when they spawn. That's where the controllers are.
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>>172321045
Not on any of their armor or weapons
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>>172321501
Go to the Streets bonfire, go outside, kill the bug, go in the water a bit, use white branches or chameleon until you're a spooky ghost. Then, walk back to the bonfire as spooky ghost, into the room where the gate connects to, and find a sign that says "show your humanity". Up the ladder and explore around until you get to the monument Lapp wants.
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>>172321441
Those cut lines were trash, there's a good reason they weren't in the final product.
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>finishing Prince using dart with no estus, HP and 5MP
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>>172316071
Pygmies are what humans and gods were before the Lord Souls. Gwyn and his posse of cool kids found the Lord Souls and split thing amongst a bunch of other pygmies they liked and abandoned the rest, though the furtive Pygmy, the smallest and most easily forgotten Pygmy, found the Dark Soul and spread it amongst the Pygmies that were left behind. They didn't grow bigger when they got their souls like Gwyn and the other 'gods' did, so they continued to call the humans Pygmies until the point where Gwyn tore up the history books and had everyone stop saying 'Pygmy' so it would fade from human history and the Dark Lord who would one day be born would never learn their heritage. So the 'Pygmies' in the DLC are just early humans.
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Spear of the Church is fucking awful.
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>>172321712
>>172321712
>>172321712
>>172321712
c'mere, fags
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>>172321651
Artorias fanboys are pretty autistic.
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>>172320978
>vs Ringed Knights make Abyss Weapons
So what you're suggesting is
>people knew how to drive humanity wild since very early times, but it's application was limited and "controlled" in scope, used to forge weapons and armor
>Gods recognize the danger and punish the techniques inventors
>Oolacile learns how to do it from TRC
>they invoke the technique as a part of whatever experiments they were doing on Manus (what could go wrong :^) )
>OH GOD OH SHIT IT'S EVERYWHERE
>Gods: I WARNED YOU ABOUT THE ABYSS, BRO! I TOLD YOU!
>FUCK IT KEEPS HAPPENING
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Where is the third bonfire in ringed city?
Feels like entire fucking swamp with a rape gauntlet prior to it doesn't have it.
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>Parting flame trail doesn't stack with fan
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>>172320724
Gwyn was not a clever man
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>>172321523
>invade at earthen peak
>host has 2 phantoms and blue
>still giant seeds

What a shame.
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Does Shira do or say anything different if you kill Midir like she asks before waking up Sleeping Beauty?
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>>172322250
Go right after you get into the swamp.
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mfw a dragon boss is actually using its massive weight and speed to bumfuck me instead of "hurr hurr I'm a pigeon weeee"
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I really wanted more Sable Church lore this DLC...
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>>172324226
Me too, I wanted to kill all those stupid beef jerky, snake worshiping spastics
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>>172324426
How dare you
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