/ndg/ - Nier/Drakengard General #39

I want A2 to crush me between her thighs

So I feel a bit lost. I'm using the scanner to find 9S, and I apparently have to look for him in the deep caves. Problem is there's a substantial increase in enemy level in that area. I'm level 26, everything down there is 40. Do I just have to grind a bunch first or something?

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>>172291178
same

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9S is my boy

>you better leave now pascal before I change my mind
>*flies off*
>pascal pls fix me
>*flies off*
>wtf he can fly

is A2 retarded

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Be honest, what would you do to Kaine if she tells you that she needs help with her uncontrollable lust?

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>>172291178
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>>172291192
>Well, he did that too. Nier/Drakengard's stories have covered games, novellas, drama CDs, stage plays, and manga.

Aren't they turning Brother One's story into a stageplay as well? I'm not really up for seeing his dickhead Elf sidekick getting a musical number.

>>172291331
I would service her in a heartbeat. Kaine transcends sexuality.

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>>172291178
I want 2B to wrap her thighs around my head and then self destruct

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>>172291325
Pod O42 was worried about her not being particularly perceptive.

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I love 2B9S!

The fact that Jackass wrote a report on project YoRHa and N2 means that Project YoRHa completely failed. News will spread that the human server is not a human colony. Androids will become apathetic with their lack of human masters to protect.

Jackass just pulled a Nier and potentially wiped out android kind.

>>172291331
A cock is a cock, even if it's on a girl.

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How large is your automata image folder?
Mine is 1.98 GB.

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>>172291454
Not if my dick self destructs first

>>172291564
Kaine have a pussy and a dick faggot.

>>172291331
>balls
no because that's not Kaine. Real Kaine only has the shaft.

>>172291640
[citation needed]

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>>172291178
I want to give A2 a bath and repair her skin implants so she doesn't look like a hooker

>>172291331
Not into traps but that's the thing, Kaine isn't a trap, she's got a vagina. I'd make it work.

>>172291454
2B is for 9S not you!

Honestly given the fucked up sexual themes in many of Taro's games I'm really surprised that we never learn for sure whether or not Androids have working junk. I would imagine not, as the original Androids were built by humans to oversee Project Gestalt and nothing else, so they wouldn't need genitals for anything.

And they went on to construct the other androids primarily as soldiers and resistance fighters, not to replace humanity, so why would they give them junk?

>>172291554
And Devola and Popola will probably be blamed.

>>172291249
nigga do some sidequests, you should at least be level 30-40

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>>172291698
>sample

Were there androids other than the project gestalt observers before humanity went extinct?

If so, why? If not, then why build them afterwards?

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>>172291554
The war may or may not be as big of an issue with N2 gone though. Maybe they can focus on something besides fighting for the first time in centuries.

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>>172291785
I gotchu
Thank god for reverse image search.
I only ever download original copies.

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Wait a fucking second, Kaine does have a donger and pussy all in the whole pack.

How the fuck during all the game the dick wasn't visible at all? also as far as I read about her it says intersex, that means she has a fully functional vagina with clit and everything or the dick is replacing the clit?

>>172291935
If the apathy is an inherient side effect of their programming to serve humans. Then even with the war over they would still fall to it, surely?

The only way out I see for android kind is to embrace the machine core model.

>>172291962
Certain costumes and angles made it very clear she was packing. Theres screenshots somewhere to prove it.

so, what exactly did A2 do at the end of Route C??

and what was the point to it if Real Master Minds POD 153 indicated that ALL black boxes are off which concludes the YorHa project

>>172291962
>How the fuck during all the game the dick wasn't visible at all?
Look closer. They literally modeled her bulge, and it is very obviously not just a puffy vulva.

Next YT game when

>>172291962
I remember in official art, it was shown to be quite small, but in novella's its offhandedly described as looking "grotesque", though I wonder if that's just the literal sex energy doing it or if they are actually referring to her arm.

>>172292150
I would fight for that.

>>172292236
Hope you like mobile games

>>172292237
>official art
>of Kaine's benis
anon
it's good to dream, but it's important to separate fantasy from reality

>>172292054
They need to let the machines teach them how to enjoy things other than fighting, like the amusement park machines pre-zombification. They stopped fighting, in direct defiance of their core programming, and they were happy as fuck. Many of the androids might go a whole day without thinking much of the humans, they have their own lives, jobs, and relationships at the resistance camp.

Learning of humanity's truth would be like if somehow god was definitively proven to not exist. It would be a hard blow for a lot of them, but would it really lead to something worse than them dying and suffering in a pointless war for thousands of years? And if so... how? Why?

>>172292214
>and what was the point to it if Real Master Minds POD 153 indicated that ALL black boxes are off which concludes the YorHa project

The point of YoRHa was to create a source of misinformation; that humanity was alive and well on the moon. With every black box offline, all data on the YoRHa project is wiped save for the combat data which will be used in future generations of androids to better fight the machines. By wiping out the source of the claim that humanity in alive on the moon, there is no way to verify if it is false. Giving the androids an excuse to believe they are still fighting for humanity and no way to disprove it.

Or to quote the commander "We needed a god worth fighting for."

>>172292214
She somehow sacrificed herself to purge 9S of the logic virus.

The point of it was... idk. The pods were able to save/back up 9S but only because of weird consciousness magic that A2 had no way of knowing about. From her perspective he was dead regardless of whether she removed the virus, right?

>>172292450
no, no that. What was the point of whatever A2 did if 9S still died???

>>172292214
She killed 9S, destroyed the tower and then let go of her hatred and accepted death.

>>172292181
Fuck can you post one please?

>>172292218
I saw one where she was in the floor and Papa Nier was there checking on her but nothing out of the regular girl wearing pantsu.

>>172292237
>Offical art
There is no way something like that exist.

>>172292575
C is incredibly nihilistic. If you didn't notice in the moments preceeding the finale, there wasn't much of a point to anything.

>>172292438
Would learning of humanity's extinction really lead to something worse than them dying and suffering in a pointless war for thousands of years? And if so... how? Why?

This is something I don't really get either.

>>172292602
Sorry, I don't back up that sort of thing.

so
Ending A = Prologue Ending 2B
Ending B = Prologue Ending 9S
Ending C = A2 Ending
Ending D 1-2 = 9S Ending
Ending E = POD 042 Ending

>>172292438
Would learning of humanity's extinction really lead to something worse than them dying and suffering in a pointless war for thousands of years? And if so... how? Why?

This is something I don't really get either.

Do the androids have core programming like the machines that makes them need to want to fight?

Also were the androids other than the project gestalt overseers made before humanity's demise or after? If before, why? And if after, what the fuck why?!

>>172292736
>Would learning of humanity's extinction really lead to something worse than them dying and suffering in a pointless war for thousands of years? And if so... how? Why?
>would loosing your solo purpose be bad
Speed Star, Father Servo and a whole tons machines answered this several times during the game

>>172292736
The androids are still machines, they are inheriently programmed to protect humanity.

Clearly the android government thinks that this is a good way to get androids to blindly fight in a never ending war so they've never removed it.

It's comparable to...

You have an army that fights for god.

But now they don't believe in god any more.

What do?

>People claim you dont need Nier 1 to appreciate Nier 2
then how you fucking expect people to make the emotional connection to Neo - D&P???

speaking of which, when tey get to teh tower last stand, why do they talk as if they knew 9S from way before??

>>172292736
It's supposed to tie into the idea of existenialism that Jean-Paul mentions and is also referenced throughout the game. In this philosophy, who you are is defined by your actions. What if it turns out everything you had be striving towards was a lie, and ultimately meant nothing? Your actions have meant nothing, so you are nothing. Androids prime directive is the protection and preservation of humanity. If their primary motivation is gone, a good chunk of who they define themselves is also gone.

>>172292897
They have either a prime directive or something similar in regards to protecting humanity. Fighting is just an extension of that.

>>172292941
But even speed star found a new purpose other than the original one?

Also, why is the android sole purpose defending humanity? I originally assumed they'd been built to fight the aliens, but then you find out humanity was extinct already when the ayys landed.

If the androids were created after humanity went extinct, what the fuck was the point of making them believe humans were alive still? Just don't make that their core programming in the first place (or don't make them at all). What am i missing?

>>172293127
>But even speed star found a new purpose other than the original one?
he blew himself

>>172292991
This btw links in to 2B's opening lines...

About wondering if she will ever have the chance to meet that god and kill it.

Which is precisely what ending E achieves... The illusion of humanity being alive and project YoRHa ending in utter failure means the end of the androids "god".

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>>172293048
>then how you fucking expect people to make the emotional connection to Neo - D&P

I thought that was what the little text adventure was for.

>>172293127
Humanity went extinct before the ayys invaded. Androids were around when humanity was still alive.

Devola and Popola, anon.

>>172292991
But why does the Android Illuminati who we never meet care if this war goes on?

Did they know that the machine network was doing the same thing, also just trying to keep the war going instead of winning or losing it, or was that just an ironic twist of fate?

And finally, what the fuck was the deal with Adam and Eve? How does N2 relate to them. Seems that once N2 died (and they somehow came back to life) they were benevolent and peaceful, offering 9S a place on the ark

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>>172293048
Even more-so for Emil.

>>172293269
I mean, kinda, but you dont really get to know what they mean about "other version of the D&P model fucked up everything"

that detracts a lot of the weight and reason why that model is so utterly hated

>>172293072
But the prime directive of the android shadow council or whatever was also to protect humanity, and they all knew the truth. So wouldn't they lose all hope and motivation, instead of setting up something like YoRHa?

>>172293048
>why do they talk as if they knew 9S from way before??
How so?

They reference how back at camp they told him that they don't want to see him die alone.

>>172293361
I let this one pass by cause Emil is a side quest but D & P last stand is main quest related.

>>172291771
I have been but even some of the side quests are out of my league.

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>>172292237
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>>172292763
Different anon here hold up a sec.
Its hard to see here but this is one of the final stages of her development where the art and concept are more or less done. Take a close look and you'll notice the bulge but the next pic will make it more noticeable.

>>172293274
I already know that, but the OG DevPo were part of the project gestalt observation androids, many of whom presumably became the android shadow council or whatever.

What i mean is the other androids, like at the resistance camp. Presumably there are other camps like that all over the world; obviously there have to be a decent amount if it's worth maintaining project yorha to keep them in the dark. When were they made and for what purpose?

>>172293645
>many of whom presumably became the android shadow council
All devos and popos were punished and reviled.

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>>172293594
By this point they were already looking into DLC outfits and the like and spitballing was occuring but the clear difference in color palette shows a more defined bulge. The actual lines and proportions are exactly the same as the above picture however.

>>172293730
Can I have a pair of Devola and Popola to punish please?

>>172293730
But not all the gestalt observation androids were devpo, were they?

And if not, then who the fuck formed the android shadow council that creates yorha, who made them, and why? Why would other androids have even existed at that point?

>>172293475
If they inspired the rest of android-kind, does it matter? YoRHa was supposed to self-destruct, taking the ones who were in the know with it. The goal of YoRHa was to create a self-sustaining lie.

>>172293820
If only. Think of the things you could make them do for you, a human, to fill that endless pit of guilt inside of them for their crimes against humanity.

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>>172291376
patrician taste

>>172293374
The problem is Automata makes it sound as if it was really solely their fault, when it obviously wasn't. They were put in a position they could not possibly succeed in

>>172293827
I always assumed humanity probably made a whole bunch of combat androids to fight against Legion after the Numbers program was shut down.

>>172294014
No, Automata made it look like it was solely their fault from their perspective... Important distinction.

Time to use chapter select to clean up everything I missed. Just went back and did Emil's quest.

1. Are there any really easily missable sidequests I should be aware of?
2. I love combat bracers on 2B/A2. Are there any that give crit up, or should I stick with my Virtuous Grief/Fang of the Twins combo?

>>172293827
You said the rest of android-kind.

That's been my question all along. Who or what made the rest of android-kind? Why were there androids made other than project gestalt observers and when? Why do non-D&P droids exist

>>172292941
Speed Star achieved what he wanted. Father Servo died in the pursuit of what he most desired. Neither is analogous to what you replied to.

>>172293910
But why the fuck would they care about inspiring the rest of android kind? Knowing humanity doesn't exist their prime directive wouldn't fire and they wouldn't care about anything

Does anyone else feel that 4S is grossly out of place? I can't help but feel him being around ruins the plot twist/big reveal of the game.

>>172294169
There's only one missable thing in the entire game and it's related to ending Y. I'll leave it at that, research it on your own if you so choose.

>>172294189
The androids clearly can create more androids, or there would be no other androids... Come on now, it's not that complicated. Other androids built new androids. You only need one factory churning out an endless chain of them to perpetuate an entire society.

>>172291554
>The fact that Jackass wrote a report on project YoRHa and N2 means that Project YoRHa completely failed.
Other androids will just see her as a fedora tipping atheist.

>>172294324
It is possible to be a human, knowing that god doesn't exist and yet still thinking it would be beneficial for humans as a whole to believe in god.

I fail to see why this is an issue at all.

>>172294367
Sure, but why are they building new androids in the first place if humanity is extinct? And if it was before then why? To fight shades? Weird that nothing like that ever came up in nier 1 or any of the supplemental stories from either game if so

>>172294353
If I recall, that ending is When you fight Emil and let him self-destruct, after having all weapons fully upgraded. I'm not ready to do that bit yet. I'm more talking about things that are hard to find - I've heard there are some sidequests that don't show up on your map - as well as hidden weapons - I got Iron will and the Phoenix Lance, but I somehow missed Virtuous Grief until just now.

>>172294324
Maybe they came to the conclusion that they are the legacy of humanity and thus themselves are to be protected. The documents regarding the creation of black boxes mentions creating them like regular androids would be inhumane so the androids obviously consider themselves to have humanity and therefore to be on some level humane. Maybe they do not know how to make androids from scratch and can only copy their own designs on the basic level which means all new androids have that inate desire to protect humanity and thus the preservation of morale is for their sake.

>>172294491
Humans don't have a prime directive like that. If finding out humanity doesn't exist was only as bad as finding out god doesn't exist, androids would bounce back. There's NO WAY the result would he worse than 5000 years or more of bloody conflict.

I thought the whole point was that it would essentially rob every android of their desire to do essentially anything

>>172294515
How about "because they were programmed to create more"

You really don't need much more than that to get to the desired result.

>>172294663
>I thought the whole point was that it would essentially rob every android of their desire to do essentially anything
Pure conjecture. Pretty sure nothing resembling the council of humanity existed after pops n devs fucked up and let all of humanity die, and androids didn't all sit down and rust to death or immediately kill themselves in that scenario.

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>that awkward moment when you stopped paying attention and everyone moved to a new thread

>>172294812
Please do not bully Popola and Devola, it's not their fault gestalt nier was a sperglord.

>>172294638
That's actually a really, really good point. I like that a lot. Still confused as to why all these other androids (i mean there are presumably other camps on earth) are around in the first place, but that's a decent explanation for how the android council moved on without humanity. They made the other androids their new humanity.... this only works if I'm assuming that the hardcoded prime directive would essentially shut down the androids, make them incapable of doing anything other than despairing, instead of just getting over it. If they're literally incapable of getting over it, then fair enough. If they're capable then the war isn't worth it

G-Guys, what happened to 9S? He used to be such a good baby boy!

>>172291056
So when do you guys think we'll get more Drakengard? Before or after Nier 3?

>>172295037
before

>>172294950
>I'm assuming that the hardcoded prime directive would essentially shut down the androids, make them incapable of doing anything other than despairing
getting into personal fanon territory there bud

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>>172294989
>G-Guys, what happened to 9S?

Grief and love change a man

>>172295008
>Adam had the perfect chance to rape 9S
>but he doesn't have a penis
This was the true tragedy.

>>172294698
The project gestalt androids wouldn't have been programmed to create more. What would've been the point of that

Does A2's taunt get a damage bonus if you have a taunt chipped installed or is it just the flat 180%?

>>172294663
No where was it ever compared to a prime directive.
It's not a "If Humans = nil therefor shutdown.protocol" command.

But an apathy for fighting a pointless and never ending war that over time began to ruin the morale of the android resistance.

The machines would still have attacked regardless, so yeah the result would have meant the end of the androids, had enough of them chosen not to fight back because their purpose no longer existed.

how do I download the archive from MEGA holy shit I hate this site

>>172295160
Surely the taunt chip would have to stack.

>>172294812
>all of humanity
Nope, Emil still exists. Humanity's fine.

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>>172295089
>Adam had the perfect chance to rape 9S

But he did

Mentally

He forcefully penetrated his conciousness data and plundered his data storage with his rock-hard system intrusion.

>>172295090
And you base that on what? Besides literally nothing.

Just because the only androids you see in Nier are D&P doesn't mean anything really.

>>172295186
If you're too retarded to download from mega then you definitely don't deserve to.

>>172295090
Maintenence of course.
>replacement of old androids
>management of the world
>technological research

Anyone fucking sane would set androids to autopilot reporduction so if (or when in the eyes of creator) humans actually come back there's something to come back to and not just a stone age civilization with all the shit lost.

>project gestalt
Specifically stated not to be the only project in action.

>>172295236
>Emil
>Human
...Emil's a goddamn Arch Lich.

>>172295443
He is 100%
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>>172295330
>>172295397
I might be recalling the lore wrong, but didn't some gestalts enter replicant bodies successfully in areas more heavily-controlled by their androids? I know they eventually went extinct, but I thought we had some time between Nier and Automata for them to try and rebuild - creating androids in the process.

>>172295443
He's got human soul and that's the only thing that matters.

>>172295474
He is 100% sure everyday's a sale!

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>>172284683
It's mostly just having to revisit empty zones.

I also keep running into peculiar issues. Like during the Earth portion I just had the game throw the entire zombified human race at me in a tidal wave. Ended up backed into a corner. Had to drop the gun. Just button mashing and cutting through hundreds of enemies as their dismembered corpses clouded the screen and I slowly waded through in a self-sustaining whirlwind of gore and death.

And then this asshole.

>>172295532
So we gestalt Emil and force him into a replicant?

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>>172295083

>>172295531
No you are recalling correctly however further info says that even they relapsed eventually. When the shadowlord died every human being, even the successful ones were put on the path to extinction.

>>172295594
If Automata has "issues" on PC then Darksiders 2 is pathological.

>>172295083
I miss the old, cute, kind of sassy and innocent baby boy, but now he's gone forever, isn't he? ;_;

>>172295641
Alright. So I guess they created newer android models prior to relapsing, and some of those androids - the ones who went on to create Yorha - made more advanced models.

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Save DevoPopo.

>>172295737
No I think you misunderstand.

Androids have true AI, they are sapient machines.

The YoRHa androids used black boxes (repurposed machine cores) because the android council felt it was inhumane to subject a sapient AI to inevitable disposal. But subjecting their enemies, through repurposed machine cores to such a plan was considered 100% okay and ethical.

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>>172295724
That person basically died with 2B. I think he could have held it together and been okay even after finding out about YoRHa/humanity if he had 2B with him, but after she dies he stops even trying to give a fuck and just goes full nihilism.

>>172295236
>Nope, Emil still exists. Humanity's fine.
the only real human in the past.. 10K year more or less was Original Yorna. and only lasted 5 years

Emil A, stopped being pure human since he became Weapon 7, and even more when he changed to the body of Weapon 6

>>172295962
They also likely weren't aware that something made from machines was capable of being true AI.

Of course it didn't make them back out of the plan once that was obviously the case.

>>172294014
It was mostly their fault though, they could have prevented everything except the replicants gaining sentience. If the shadowlord could have finished his work without being murdered, they could have just made new replicants and the problem would be solved.

>>172295927
Programming all DevPops to feel guilt was the only good idea anyone in Nier ever had.

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>>172295724
Nah, he'll come back :^)

Why is Drakengard 3 so sleazy

>>172296358
OwO what's this?

>>172296227
Actually everything without reservation is Kaine and Grimoire Wiess's fault. Had Grimoire Wiess not listened to Kaine, humanity would have been merged with its gestalts... This includes Yorna and the shadowlord. Meaning Nier would never have had a reason to kill himself so humanity would never have had a reason to relapse.

Honestly its got fuck all to do with Devola and Popola. And everything to do with Wiess being a stubborn prick and Kaine being full of herself.

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>>172293827
No they werent all D&P, but since the Nier 1 D&P models were the models that fucked everything up it makes sense that those models were hated. Gestalt report 11 states that because of the loss of the Original, which means it take place after Nier, the disposal of the D&P models is under consideration. So there must have been a shadow council by that time already making decisions in 3361.

>>172296546
Nah, if Devola and Popola had done their fucking jobs, Weiss wouldn't have listened to Kaine because he would know why he exists and he and Nier would never have met Kaine because they would have retrieved the lost verses themselves instead of being lazy fucks.

And blaming weiss makes no sense. "Don't arrest me, my computer was the one that downloaded all the child porn!" He's a fucking machine that they should have had autonomy over.

>>172296523
Because Taro likes fucking with your expectations.

>>172296445
I like how his reaction to A2 telling him about 2B is basically 'Shut the fuck up about my waifu'

Where do I find the Engine Blade and the Abandoned Factory Memo? I feel like I've been all over this factory.

>>172296523
They wanted the characters to be edgy degenerates like 1 but they wanted them to be more sympathetic so they couldn't make them baby eaters and kidfuckers.

>>172293594
>>172296358
Kaine is disgusting
Literally an ugly faggot walking around in neglige for all the world to see his dick in woman's panties.

Fucking degenerate

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>>172296761
Wonder who he was referencing when he says "us"? Yeah, it's probably 2B, but considering the fact the red eyes flare up on the same line, I guess maybe he could be referencing the network.

Then again he was as mad as a bag of frogs at this point.

>>172296761
He reacted that way because he knew he was being a stupid asshole and didn't want to chance reason penetrating his angsty haze.

Does D change anything? I started a new game and all the enemies are level 1 again.

>>172296445
B-But he won't be the cute boy we know and love!

>>172296783
Naw Taro was fucking with people like Anita who cannot handle openly sexual yet strong and independant female characters.

The games a giant fuck you to anyone who reacts childishly to the topic of sexuality.

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WHAT THE FUCK

MUH DICK
D
I
C
K

>>172296885
Its the logic virus from the arm he took from the infected 2B

>>172296885
Theres no US between him and network, and network has nothing to do with his relationship with 2B.

Why would the network be relevant to the dialogue given the context?

>>172296996
it looks like shit

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>>172297074
Shut up, there is US everyone. Ours is the greatest nation!

>>172296885
Definitely 2B. His waifu getting insulted by the bitch who he thought murdered her made him catch the Red Eye.

is there a guide for best chip layout for each android?

>>172297331
Game's way too easy to need that, dude.

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>>172297074
I guess. Just seemed weird for him to say at the same time the red eyes showed up.

>>172297032
>>172297196
I guess he is referencing himself and 2B.
>has her arm stuck to his stump
>calls himself "us"
>literally "us" because he's both of them
Geez.

>>172297331
sure, make a black box version of every chip and socket them all.

>>172297391
>>172297410
I know that. I was just thinking that some type of "9s should use (blank) chips etc. Just trying to make things more interesting

>>172297489
You don't want to go with the best chips if you want interesting then.

>>172297489
the only hacking chip you need for 9S is the deathcry one and its purely for asthetics. The rest are trashgarbage. as for the other chips its really just tailoring them to how you play. Chipless runs are super viable btw, so it doesnt matter too much.

>>172297489
see
>>172297664
Mostly what you'll want to use are exp/drop rate up, auto item pickup, the item finder chip, and maybe overclock on Toobs - I don't use it on nines because I usually chuck spears from a distance and don't need to dodge much.

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>>172296996
absolutely tasteless and disgusting

>>172296996
2B is for lewds not nudes

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>>172296996

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HOW THE FUCK DO I WIN THE PASCAL VS ENGELS FIGHT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>172298325
Spam the attack button. Don't move, don't block, just attack.

>>172298325
1 hit first
2 repeat

>Abandoned Factory: Furnace - Go backwards through the factory as 9S. In the first room with multiple doors, one will have a hacking lock. Unlock it and proceed. At the end of the area is a locked chest with Report 5.

Why the fuck can't I find this? It's the only archive I'm missing.

>>172296996
>Brown instead of pink nipples

I'm still going to install it just to see it but this is some garbage taste.

>>172298451
I'm pretty sure it's in the same room with the Engine Blade

>>172298370
Square? I'm doing that but engels is faster......

>>172298325
How the fuck do you lose it?

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>>172296885
>Wonder who he was referencing when he says "us"?

Himself and 2B. Basically it was him flipping out at A2 for thinking she knew anything about 9S and 2B and their relationship. Essentially, 'stop talking shit about my waifu, you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about'.

>>172298541
Your memory does kind of serve, but that's a different archive. The abandoned factory memo, I think. I got that.

>>172298325
you cant be serious

just let him get close to you and attack, as long as you initiate the attack movement 1st he cant counter or block.

jesus man. you are the reason why other people have to sacrifice themselves in ending E

>>172298553
GET FUCKING GOOD.

ENGELS ADVANCED TOWARDS YOU AND ATTACKS ONLY AT CLOSE RANGE.

SHI-KA-SHI しーかーし

The arm attack has a massive range so you simply MASH ATTACK WHEN HE GETS INTO MAXIMUM EFFECTIVE RANGE. ABOUT THE DISTANCE OF 1.5 ENGEL LENGHTS

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G-Guys... It's time. ;_;

>>172298325
hit him first
if youre too slow in mind and body just back up until he swings then hit him

>>172298325
Everyone is going to meme you, but you might have had my experience

>Blocking isn't an issue
>But his attack animation is faster than yours

Back up a bit to give yourself a bit of space, then when you initiate an attack, he's wasting time trying to close the distance instead of interrupting you with a faster attack animation.
Block when you have to, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that you aren't incompetent.
Repeat until you win.

>>172298797
Make sure you use chapter select to do both.

Gentlemen how is the FAR patch worth getting? Any word in an official patch?

So be honest, how many of you faggots spent money to buy trophies?

>>172298370
>>172298429
>>172298558
>>172298687
>>172298779
>>172298806
>>172298870
Well....that was easy....I feel stupid now. Seems like moving and blocking is auto lose.

>>172298612
This final fight between A2 and 9S could have been prevented if A2 said,

>yeah 2B got infected and gave me her memories to preserve her will and feelings for you

And then 9S would realize that A2 is 2B and vice versa and had intense hate/love sex with no genitalia

>>172298949
I don't care enough for them to do that.

so wait, if ending E requires someone else data. does the save files get erased once you accept to help or someone has to receive it and "loose" for em to be erased?

>>172298927
Extremely worth getting. Huge performance boost plus a graphical boost due to fixed lighting, bloom, cutscenes, etc. It's essentially dsfix for automata, though dark souls 1 is by far the worse port.

Platinum issued a statement saying they're working on a patch but no specifics or dates yet

>>172298949
I want to see how long I can avoid it. PS4 automatically takes screenshots when you get a trophy, so there is still hypothetical dick-measuring points if your trophy screenshot isn't of you twiddling your thumbs at the resistance camp.

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>>172298927
You mean the patch that makes the game playable in full-screen? The patch that fixes the global illumination problems, giving you 15+ extra fps? The patch that basically fixes the game?

Yes.

>>172299028
When sacrificing your data, it's name is sent to the server and when someone goes into E a name is pulled from that server to assist them. The little message about their data being lost is just there to drive home their sacrifice for you.

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>do ending D again on a whim to pick the option I didn't pick the first time
>this time pick 'stay'
>get unique cutscene
>'Oh there you are, 2B'

My fucking tears, holy shit, I should have picked this one to start with.

>>172299161
but you do or you do not loose your save files?

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>>172299074
>Fixing
>Bloom

Nice meme

>>172299159
>>172299074
Cool guess its time to 100% this shit then.

>>172299226
You lose it the moment you agree to let 042 take it after completing E.

>>172299212
I don't understand why anyone wouldn't pick stay the first time.

>>172299212
but anon Ending D-2 is the cannon route for Nier 3 where you play as a Machine LifeForm that thinks is human

>>172299026
It isn't real fucking shekels, it's in game G.
>>172299078
Yeah I haven't given in yet either. I'm at 74% and I'm sure I can get some more legitimately but there are a couple I'll probably say fuck it to.

>>172298990
A2 and 2B are basically the same thing anyways since A2's personality data was installed in the E models.

>>172299329
>it's in game G.
I know. I still don't care about epeen.

>>172299306
>I don't understand why anyone wouldn't pick stay the first time.
I did it cause after all the shit 9S had nothing worth left in Earth so he deserved a second chance

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>>172298949
Nope. I sadly have self-respect, and this is coming from a Four apologist.

There's nothing to apologize for, she's literal perfection.

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>>172299401
The Stay D ending is the saddest thing in the game for me. Hopefully 9S explores the stars in Adam and Eves digital rave or he wakes up next to 2B in ending E.

>post-good game depression is almost over after 6 days
>listen to [E]nd of YoRHa again
ahahadshsfasdhfahahsdfhashashashashdas the ride never ends

>>172298949
I'm on PC, so I haven't even looked at the store. Once I'm done with the game I'll probably just cheat engine the money in and buy all the achievements.

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Wait, wasn't there a discussion about what 9S meant about this a few threads back? ...I still want to touch 9S... ;_;

>>172299391
Well look at this guy over here who doesn't care about epeen, y'all.

Anyone know an easy way to blow up a bunch of machines using remote control? The machines I hack into all suck.

>>172299581
wasnt it that all yorHa models have a built in a desire to protect humanity???

>>172299581
Androids have an innate desire to protect humans. It's like their core programming.

>>172299306
>I don't understand why anyone wouldn't pick stay the first time.

It's clearly the canon option for that route, I have no idea why I didn't pick it the first time. Maybe I was hoping for something good to happen. The cutscene though is a clear indication that you're supposed to pick 'stay'.

>child machine is lost and probably being ripped apart by rabid moose in the wilderness
>mother is flipping out at the edge of the village, desperately looking for assistance
>father is standing at his original position in the village saying "Welcome to our village."
And Father of the Year goes to...

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>[TSDM自購][170329]NieR:Automata Original Soundtrack 早期購入特典CD附[4CD][320K] Hi-Res版购买预定

>>172298949
I bought the fish up 20 different types of fish trophy, did the rest legit.
Don't really care either, I tried fishing for a while but it takes forever to anything even bite and then it just turned out to be the same thing I already caught dozens of, just wasn't fun and I have better things to do.

>>172299159
How do I get rid of the theatric grey screens? Is there a patch for it?

>>172299894
on nyaa?

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>>172299894
>[TSDM自購][170329]NieR:Automata Original Soundtrack 早期購入特典CD附[4CD][320K] Hi-Res版购买预定
>not buying it
Is like you dont love and want to support Taro's work

>>172299894
>FLAC on Nyaa
MIRACLES
DO
EXIST

>>172299212
>picked stay
>didn't get that cutscene
Can someone please upload a webm or something? I can't find this particular scene on jewtube and it's driving me crazy.

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>>172299894
>0
>125

>>172299953
Make it available without import and I'll buy 2 copies.

>>172300009
>Make it available without import and I'll buy 2 copies.
Is like you dont love and want to support Taro's work

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>>172299916
Nope, they're a design choice. They were in Nier too.

>>172299901
You even got all 26 endings? How long did that take? I haven't even looked at the list yet.

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>>172299990
>Can someone please upload a webm or something?

>>172300093
It shouldn't take forever, but yes, it is tedious and I would unironically suggest buying that trophy.

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AAAAAAAAAAAA

>>172300093
The endings don't take long at all, all but like 2 of them are at the very start of a chapter. They have some neat lines as well. Fishing is literally just sitting there doing nothing on the other hand

>>172300126
I don't get it. Where was she? In the sun?

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>>172300126
DELETE THIS

>>172299953
>go on S-E store
>plan on preordering the OST
>shipping doubles the price and then some
how about no

>>172300250

Stabbed in his gut.

>>172300250
In the sword

>>172299552
It's honestly a heartwarming seeing so many people have the same experience as me after completing the game. I thought I was just being melodramatic, but I don't think any game or anime has affected me this hard before.

>>172300196
I had that happen to me once and I think it was because I used skip there (it was my second time doing it).

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>>172300196

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>>172300126
>tfw he smiles for 2B

I'm dying inside

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>>172300250
Here she is.

Notice how "her" hand is on it.

>>172300287
>>172300297
How is that being conveyed? Neither the camera nor 9S' eyes focus on the sword.

>>172300126
Thanks anon. I wonder why I didn't get that.

>>172300383
Pottery.

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>>172300250
>Where was she? In the sun?

Anon....she's dead and he's dying. Where do you think he was seeing her?

>>172300385
>You can ride them

Oh god, that seems so intuitive, but such a rare situation unless I was playing as 9S and forced myself to not remote control every enemy.

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>>172300126
This fucking scene, goddamn.

>>172300505
uh
the clouds?

https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=912011

Hmm.

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>>172300385
YAMEROOOOOOOOO

>There are people that think Automata doesn't have writing equal or better to the originals because they haven't been spoonfed everything by the DarkId, Reika, or SomethingVerySpecial

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I'm ready.

>>172300214
I got the fishing one. It was somewhat time consuming but not too annoying. The fishing itself is kind of relaxing if you just do it here and there in between other things you're doing. If anyone here has NOT gotten the fishing trophy, that's how I'd recommend doing it. Do a quest or whatever, see some water, stop and fish for a bit, go do something else, go catch a few more, repeat as necessary.

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>>172300126
>his soft smile

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>>172300968
>tfw there are people who hate 9S and think he's a bad character

>>172301194
Is that error message from ingame? If so, where?

>>172300385
Wait hold on how did you do this if you can't hack?

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Such a way with words!

>>172301286
Spear of the Usurper I'd guess.

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>>172300551
>>172301286
Spear of the Usurper is pretty fun because of the random conversions. I was surprised when I captured one of the snake things because its not really an enemy you can sneak up on and hack. It twists all over as it follows you. Then I sent it to battle in the desert pit.

>>172301319
I had four messages that ended with put your back into it.
People must really like that one.

>>172300265
>>go on S-E store
>>plan on preordering the OST
>>shipping doubles the price and then some
>how about no
let em help
http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SQEX-10589

the shipping is up to you (pick SAL)

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>>172300126

>>172300779
>there are people who think that Automata has better writing just because it's more convoluted
Commander: no characterization
Anemone: no characterization (despite getting an entire novel segment dedicated to her)
2B: no characterization until B route, no substance until the game is over
9S: no characterization until C route
Pod 153: literally who
Emil, D&P: hey guys remember that better game :))))
A2: barely any characterization until C route, at which point she stops being a character and becomes a plot device that jarringly pulls a complete 180 to shoehorn in Taro's ending

We would be so blessed to have TDI successfully inject some life into this mess.

>>172301194
From the start of route C I think.

>>172301373
>Spear of the Usurper
Cool. Imma try that.

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http://www.theverge.com/2017/3/27/15077864/elon-musk-neuralink-brain-computer-interface-ai-cyborgs

>>172296996
>>172298176
It begins.
Tha guy got shit tastes though just like most sexy armor/clothes mods on Skyrim.

>>172301373
>tfw I can't use it because I kill everything in one hit

>>172296996
Never understood the use of nude mods in games that don't allow sex.
It's so tasteless.

2B with her leotard is far more appealing than than if she were naked.

So is Drakengard 2 the ugly duckling of the series

I can't wait to be known as the fucker who killed a lot of peoples data! ...Fuck me.

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>>172300771
Also the only way to dismount them is by detonation.

>>172299894
Why in the hell wouldn't I just rip it from the game files?

>>172301994
>Why in the hell wouldn't I just rip it from the game files?
cause you want to support Taro's Work?
and cause Disk 4 are special tracks that are not in teh game

>>172301871
All of Taro's games are ugly ducklings.

>>172302116
They're all beautiful ugly ducklings, anon.

>>172301439
See you in a year when you've been spoofed all the development and characterization by E-Celebs.

Costume modding when?

>>172300385
I want A2 to spank me

>>172302539
That spank would probably kill you.

Sounds like a "CostumePackDLC" was listed on SteamDB but now it's gone. Did anyone else see it or get a screenshot of the listing?

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>>172299306
I pick stay first, some part of me agreed that 9S should stay on the earth, where 2B died.
>"There you are, 2B"
I did not expect this at all.

Still I prefer ending C

>>172302929
D/w anon, E after C/D stay is the canon ending.

>>172301993
Can you do suicide-charge with those units?

>>172303331
E is the closer we will get a happy ending
POD 042 was the true hero

>>172303331
Yeah I agree E is canon.
Part of me wish the protags has some screentime to reunite, but its Yoko Taro. E is good enough.

>>172303602

It will come. You just have to believe.

Who's the jackass that decided to set one part of the eve fight in a giant fucking dust storm that makes it real hard to see that he's attacking? When his moves either have really fast/subtle animations or broken hitboxes that don't really match the animaton?

>Le git gud xD

fuck that, the fundamental premise around gitting gud is that the game plays fair, just obscuring the bosses moves with a shitty filter over the screen isn't learning a tricky pattern or coming up with a better strategy, it just encourages you to run away and tediously shoot the boss so you don't risk getting one shot by moves you can't see.

what do androids dream of

>>172303774
Getting fugged by humans.

>>172303674
Videogames
are balanced
for normal mode

>>172303774
touching humans

>>172303774
eating with humans

>>172301373
That spear was great until>>172301693
But it still has the Crit + effect.

Those snakes can be hacked, but it's tricky and best done while already remote controlling a machine. They're one of the few machine types with good movement speed, and combined with their seemingly mediocre jump, can actually cross a good distance.

>Hold R2
>Go fast

>>172295083
can someone explain what the "100% nuclear" is referring to?

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Is it cracked yet?

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>>172304204
Get a job.
Alternatively, get a friend who can family share it.

>>172303674
I agree with you, the storm in the Eve fight was a really bad idea. It looks cool
>>172303816
Taking hits because you're blinded by the storm has nothing to do with balance for a specific mode. Wether you play in easy, normal or hard the game should always be fair to you and give you a chance to evade the attacks.
If you can't because you're blinded by the camera, a model or an effect of some sort, then it's a design flaw.

>>172304204
Just buy it.

Should i play nier automata on normal or hard mode the first time?

>>172304203
It's an MGSV meme you dip

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>>172304203

>>172304203
MGSV trailer song.

>>172304416
do prologue on normal. then its up to you. normal will become too easy the further in you get, but that may not hinder your enjoyment since the gameplay (while solid) isnt the driving force of the game.
hard mode is punishing until you get decent chips, which can be a while if you're not intentionally farming them.

>>172304416
Don't try hard mode for first timer, prologue boss one shots you.
Go normal till tutorial is finished first.

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>>172304416
Hard, Normal gets pretty easy as you get more plug-in chips and upgraded weapons

Prologue is unironically the toughest part of the game, no saves for a solid 20-30 minutes. So I don't blame you for playing the prologue on Normal then switching to Hard afterwards

>>172304416
I agree with the other anons, just wanted to add that you'll most likely want to switch to Hard on your second playthrough. Especially if you did all the sidequests. Once you get good chips the game become incredibly easy, even on hard mode.

>>172304416
Normal.
Until you get chapter select from your third ending. Then hard or very hard while you clean up everything else that you want to do.

The assumption being that you don't go all completionist off the bat, and actually leave some quests for yourself to come back to later.

>>172304416
only babbies play anything less than hard

>>172304301
>>172304394
>Broke mentally ill neet.
guess i'll go sell plasma for a month.

>>172303674
The fight is dumb, but just use the Missile Pod with ranged attack chips/buffs. It trivialises the second half of the fight.

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https://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=912009

>You are someone else
>I'm still right here

DLC
>its a 3 ways part with A2 2B and 9S hunting down the Illuminati behind Project YorHa

it would make sense and bring the hole plot to a conclusion. as they and N2 were the secret driving forces that kept the war moving

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>>172306142

>>172306259
If there is a DLC I doubt it will continue the main plot. It's more likely that it's side content about characters, etc.

>>172306259
That would be too straightforward and an uncharacteristically "feel good" path, plus ruin the mystery surrounding the creation of YoRHa.

A prequel DLC involving the Mt. Ka'al mission where you play as A2 would be nice, in my opinion.

Not that we're getting any DLC like that, Taro said they don't have the budget. We're probably getting challenges like the VR missions in MGR.

>>172307037
Adventures of Devola and Popola

>>172307070
>That would be too straightforward and an uncharacteristically "feel good" path
who says I wanted it to be a Happy Ending path??

>>172306259
Not going to happen.
In the unlikely event it did happen it would be revealed that all the people behind it died a long time ago, with the bulk of the project just being on auto-pilot.

>>172307527
fuck off kojima

>>172307262
I don't mean the ending, I mean the whole "sticking it up to the man" angle that's about feeling good. It's about empowerment, whereas in the main game the players are often de-powered to fit in with the struggle within the cycle.

No offence, it just sounds Hollywoodian.

>>172307070
>Not that we're getting any DLC like that, Taro said they don't have the budget.

They just outsold all their expect at jobs.
Last week it was 240k in Japan, 140k on Steam, and unknown amount in retail worldwide. Still hot and still selling.
Automata right now is the third hottest shit on Steam after GTA5 and CS:GO.

I think that can make Squenix reconsider their budgets because it sells better than the best expectations.

>>172307595
you are overthinking, its simply revenge.

I want to get Nier: Automata but I have no controller right now. Do I really need a DS4 or can I just get an Xbone or Steam controller? DS4 + adapter will set me back £100 and I don't really want to get it just for one game

>>172307931
I use a 360 controller.

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>those Nier jazz arangements

>>172307742
SE is bipolar, they scoffed at good sales before. I'd love substantial DLC though.

>>172307750
Yes, I know it's simply revenge, and that kind of simpleminded BioWare-tier story wouldn't feel right in a game like this is what I'm saying.

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>>172303774
Electric sheep

>>172307931
Get a cheap xbox360 controller

>>172307931
I played with a mouse and keyboard.

>>172307931
I used a 360 controller and it worked perfectly other than being unable to pet the pods.

>>172307931
>They just outsold all their expect at jobs.
I use a WiiU pro controller, and you can remap every single button

>>172308316
>being unable to pet the pods
Grab your house and shake it