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Welcome to Sonic The Hedgehog General. Here we discuss Sonic games as well as the entire franchise including animation and comics. Share art, music, talk about new developments, discuss ROM hacks, speedrunning, and more

/sthg/ #714 - Army of Amys Edition

>Link Compilation<
http://pastebin.com/J6hTXkhK

>Drawfag/Writefag Idea Walls<
http://pastebin.com/j8KkPQ4n
http://pastebin.com/jNKKMk5b

>News/Developments<
Sonic Project 2017 is now Sonic Forces
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/16/sxsw-sonic-2017-project-sonic-2017-is-officially-called-sonic-forces/

Sonic Mania Delayed to Summer 2017
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/16/sonic-sxsw-2017-sonic-mania-delayed-to-summer-2017/

Flying Battery Zone Shown for Mania
http://www.tssznews.com/2017/03/16/sxsw-sonic-2017-flying-battery-zone-revealed-in-sonic-mania/

Sonic Forces Gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zm0FvEn5CU

Bump in Sonic 1 v0.1
http://www55.zippyshare.com/v/x5kpc8IZ/file.html

Sonic Boom Seasons 1 & 2 can be watched here:
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom
http://www.toonova.com/sonic-boom-season-2

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Another fucking Amy thread? Come on.
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Rat general
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>>172205251
>Another

You do realize the last few threads weren't Amy related right?
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>another amy thread
And you amyfags wonder why you're getting so much hostility.
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>>172204786
Goddamn this shit is too funny.

Anyways goodnight /sthg/, see you all later.
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>>172205251
Mine was made first too
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>>172205349
I'm sorry man. I didn't know there was a limit on how many editions a character could have.

>>172205394
Night anon!
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>>172205485
So Eclipse & Jet beat Rotor up in the showers, & violated him with a hockey stick, because he was gay & it lead to Rotor killing himself? And it's based off of true events, that the author felt belonged in a Sonic High School fanfic? Just wow.
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>>172203684
Do you remember who got the abortion?
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>>172205596
I think Mina. Because Thrash raped her, or some shit.
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>>172205589
The fuck kind of highschool did this author go to?
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>>172205660
>Mina got thrashed
Ha
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>>172205660
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>>172205672
I don't think it happened in her High School. Just that it happened in a High School.
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>>172205442
It's called variety, faggot. Amyfags need to be gassed.
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>>172205589
Tekno was there too along with some others goobers. But she didn't participate in the beating. She was recording. Her and Jet weren't on-board with Eclipse's part with the hockey stick, but it happened anyway.
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So what the fuck is he doing?
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>>172206317
Meh.

>>172206357
I can only assume some type of dance.
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>>172206357
LET'S GET 'EM
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>>172206357
overposing
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>>172206357
Getting hype
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Forgot to mention Mina is a racist and Nicole is muslim in this fic.
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>>172206562
>Nicole is muslim
>Mina is a racist

Okay I missed this part, WHAT?
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>>172206357

Channeling his inner Jackson
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>>172206562
>Mina is a racist
To what exactly?

>Nicole is muslim
Does not compute, bro.
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>>172206562
sauce nigga
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>>172206670
Shes racist to Nicole
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>>172206753
>Shes racist to Nicole
So like the in the original pre-reboot universe, huh?
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>>172206634
>Naoto Oshima said (Sonic's) shoes are based on Michael Jackson's
>But the color scheme is based on Santa Clause.
>Source. My Friend.
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Would you date a Sonic character?
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>>172207705
Yes
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>>172206605
Thats not the worst part, Maria gets raped by a school staff member and contracts AIDS.
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>>172207705
If it means I get to hug Amy, then yes.

>>172207940
So what happened next to Maria? Did Shadow cure it or what?
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>>172207940
This fanbase is glorious, I swear to fucking God.
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>>172208013
She went crazy and jumps off the school building
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>>172208013
>implying Maria gets to live
>ever
She commits suicide and Shadow's all sad about it like in SA2.
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>>172207705
Only if he was edgy and non-conformist.
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>>172207940
You have to wonder you would use Sonic of all things for a fucking like this.

I'm not surprised or anything, but you have to wonder what goes through these writers head to make them go "Yeah, this style of writing goes really well with this franchise".

Worse part? It's played completely straight.
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>>172208071
>>172208073
I shouldn't have laughed as hard I just did. My fucking sides.
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>>172208136
>Worse part? It's played completely straight.
But isn't that the best part of every fanfic?
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>>172207705
Oh lord, yes I would.
But I wonder if such a pure spirit like Tikal would accept me..
I wouldn't want to taint her.
>FeelsBadMan ....
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>>172208136
>all those missed words
Daylight Saving is still fucking with me
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>>172208172
Of course. Just looking at it from a critical perspective.

If you guys want more, look up 'SONIC HIGH SCHOOL'
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>>172208210
I share your pain.
>morning shift this week
End me.
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Just to think someone woke up one day and thought "I'm going to write a Sonic the Hedgehog drama fanfiction set in school that tackles major social issues."
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>>172208291
That shit is a fucking master piece. Much better than green hill academy.
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I'm going to give a shout out to "Sonic's Ultimate Harem" by lil Knux. Thanks to that story, you can look up most of your favorite female characters in media and bask in the glory that they got nailed by Sonic t. Hedgehog.
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Since when Mina is dead?
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>>172208736
Got wiped out of existence, which I say is even worse than death.
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>>172208771

could be worse

they could've been placed into TLSC
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>>172208804
It's exactly what Geoffrey St. John deserves.
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>>172208736
Enjoy your break, anon!
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>>172208907
wut?
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>>172208736
Maybe you just didn't notice it because they are small but you might want to delete that pic buddy
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>>172208907

i didn't even see that the first time
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>>172208949
Nipple
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>>172208970
>>172208997
I didn't notice it
How to delete?
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>>172209048
Click on the little box in the upper right corner of the post. On the bottom of the page there will be the option to delete the selected post, along with the option to only delete the attached pic if that's what you want.
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>>172209156
thank you
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>>172209180
You better hope it's not too late and the site lets you delete. There is a time limit.
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>>172209217
I think it's fine
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>>172205186
http://www.poisonmushroom.org/2006/11/dissecting-a-hedgehog-an-in-depth-analysis-of-sonic-the-hedgehog/
Thoughts /sthg/ ?
It's over 10 years old, written at the onset of the dark age. How does it stand up today?
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>>172206897
Everyone knows this. It's common knowledge.
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>>172213985
Probably the most accurate assessment I've read about the series.
It's sad that most of it is still relevant (and sadder still when you consider this was put out before 06).

>Everybody is so enamored with reminding us how fast Sonic is that they’ve forgotten the finer points on what made him feel so fast in the first place.
Truer words were never spoken.
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>>172213985
>Ryan Bloom
>the same guy who thinks "dude Sonic should control like a race car in 3D lmao"

I don't think he understands Sonic as well as he lets on. I love Trackmania as much as the next guy, but last time I checked, Sonic was a platformer. I think his control scheme needs to reflect that.

>>172217000
>Everybody is so enamored with reminding us how fast Sonic is that they’ve forgotten the finer points on what made him feel so fast in the first place.
>Truer words were never spoken.

It's a fine sentiment, and I've always believed that it's the true source of 3D Sonic's problems, above all else. However, in his recent "how I think 3D Sonic should work" video, he proposes (and I'm heavily paraphrasing here) giving Sonic a literal acceleration button instead of using the control stick to move him forward. (So like Lost World but even worse.) On top of that, he suggests a game that's more arcade like that essentially heavily relies on memorization and the spectacle of pulling off tricks like Sonic Rush in a very linear race car-like track.

I mean, if the goal is to make Sonic "feel" fast, I guess it could accomplish that. But like the boost formula, it certainly leaves a lot to be desired in the depth department.
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>>172217703
Pretty sure the video he made was intended in the context of the boost games. Yeah if it's a real platformer then it should have platformer controls, but the boost games should have more of a racing feel since they basically are.

> linear race car-like track
And boost levels aren't?
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what are you listening to right now, /sthg/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A55IFzLLbM
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>>172219052
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXx0IWcNw_s
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>>172207940
>>172208136
Uh.. is this canon? I don't think whatever this is, is a big deal, because I played through Sonic Adventure 2 + Shadow the Hedgehog and this wasn't mentioned in any of the games.

Bizarre headcannon, if that is a headcannon, though. Little dark.
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>>172220381

They're referring to the fanfic, not the canon. We don't know much about Maria canonically aside from that one time she got shot and killed.
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>>172220381

They're talking about a fanfic, dude.

Although Maria did have not-AIDS, but it wasn't because of rape.
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Just an FYI. You're all cool people in my book.
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>>172222602
You too bby
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>>172222602
For all the shitposting and arguing, I'd still rather be here than anywhere else.
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Some of you are all right..

Don't go to the green hill zone tomorrow at lunch time
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>>172224868
>t. """Ultimate""" life form
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>leave
>come back
>this fucking fanfic everyone is talking about
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>>172217703
>giving Sonic a literal acceleration button instead of using the control stick to move him forward. (So like Lost World but even worse.)

You have yet to explain why this is a bad idea other than "it's a platformer so that's wrong". As he also explains, Hulk: Ultimate Destruction is sortof a platformer too, and it plays great.

You have to admit that if you're going to be pushing Sonic forward for an extended period of time (which EVERY Sonic game does, even fucking Utopia) it makes far more sense to give him a gas pedal. I don't agree that it should be the default control scheme, but then he doesn't either.
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>>172230070
Hey Katellafag, don't you think you're posting...a little too often? I see her in every thread.
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>>172230210
Well

You want to talk about Sonic Forces?

Sonic Forces puns?
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>>172230325
Sonic Forces you to stop posting Katella and talk about video games instead
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>>172230578
Sonic Forces
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>>172230662
...you to make sure you don't post when you hit the enter button.
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So, guys, I guess we have to get are Archie Sonic fix from Archie Sonic Online, now.
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>>172230325
Sonic forces you to get Super Mario Odyssey instead.
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>>172230907
It's not over until the fat lady sings
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So I know
>advertisement

But The Geek Critique, ShayMay and I did a thing.

https://youtu.be/bEwxOHec6xg
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>>172231583
holy shit kill yourself
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>>172231898
y-you too
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>>172231989
no one gives a fuck about your shitty youtube video
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>>172232178
Damn that's edgy, bro.
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How would you feel if we had a voiced trailer in summer ending with

>"The servers are the seven chaos"
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>>172232552
>Get called out on your bullshit
>resorts to buzz words
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Three buttons are in front of you. There are labeled as such:

BUTTON ONE: The music in Sonic Forces is sub-par. The story makes no sense and is poorly told. The level design is decent, however, the controls and Sonic's movements are the best seen in any of the 3D games in the series.

BUTTON TWO: The music in Sonic Forces is excellent, a high point for the series, and the story is engaging. However, the level design and controls are middling to sub-par.

BUTTON THREE: The music and story are average, and Sonic's controls aren't finely tuned or tight. However, the game features the best level design seen in any 3D Sonic title.

Choose wisely, anon. This is an important decision.
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Keep replying, it does wonders for this fucking general.
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>>172232673
>samefagging this hard
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>>172232803
>Being this much of a faggot
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>>172232754
One, without a doubt. The story will be trashed by non-diehards, even if it is stellar, but poor gameplay will be unforgivable by everyone. The biggest downside by far is disappointing music.
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>>172232754
I really, really want to say Two, but Black Knight proved that excellent music and good writing can't carry bad controls. One is probably best for the series' health.
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>>172230907
>implying that dreck is going to be worth reading
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>>172232754
One
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>>172233678
>tfw you are writing some of that dreck
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>>172232754
It was always One.
The core of Sonic is the gameplay. It is the soaring height SEGA is doomed to forever strive to regain.
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>>172233042
One or two. Kinda leaning towards the latter
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>>172232754
I think three is the closest to what we are used to and the case that would result in the smallest shitstorm and the best overall game, out of those listed.

Two would probably produce the most memorable game, however.
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>>172232754
Two because at least we'll have something to fucking talk about around here. You know what happens when you get an awesome game with a shitty or non-existent story? A game where discussion dies out after a couple weeks.

In fact I'd say that 1 would be the worst option, because at least with 3 somebody could mod the level design into Generations. And IMO option 3 describes Unleashed perfectly.
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Okay, finished all playthrough of Shadow's game. Is it me or was sega high? The writing is horrible, the dialogue even more, the cutscenes are all over the place with no rhyme or reason and so many things don't make sense reguarding the emeralds that I don't even know where to start. Prime example being Shadow stealing the emerald powering the space ship tails built to take him to the arc. Like, for what purpose did that scene exist? Without that power source shadow and sonic's group should of plummeted back to earth and died in the process. It felt like watching some really bad fanfiction come to life. Even the final story is riddled with holes. How did Shadow get the emeralds and not make an enemy of Sonic friends, how would shadow be that close to giving doom the gems and not already know what he has planned when he explained that shit already? Did the comics handle this better?
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>>172235717
The comics handle story better than the games do all the time. Even the bad comics did.
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>>172235717
>Shadow's game
In SA2 or Heroes?
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>>172235717
The comics almost never outright adapt a game itself, the Unleashed adaptation that kicked off the reboot is the only major exception, is the only continuity where ShtH has happened, and it happened off screen exactly as the game told it. Preboot, pretty much none of the games existed.
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>>172235868
I know this is a bait post, but it does serve as a reminder of how much of a fucking stud sonic was pre-SGW
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>>172235925
Sonic 3 gets a pretty on-point game adaption actually.
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>>172235717
To be fair, the Japanese script is a lot better.
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>>172235925
Knuckles' introduction in the comics is literally Sonic 3 in comic form.

We also get sonic adventure, but that gets changed a lot more.
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>>172235868
Switch Bunnie and Fiona and I 100% agree
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>>172235868
Damn, he really was the sugah-hog
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>>172235868
>Sonic/Mina
>Sonic/Bunnie
>Not absolute pleb tier.

>Sonic/Chili dogs not toppest of tiers
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>>172236165
Not him but I always liked Sonic/Mina.

Bunnie is pure and deserves someone better than any of them though.
Someone like... me.
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What happened to comic timeline anon? Is he still making it? Are there any differences?
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>>172236273
>What happened to comic timeline anon? Is he still making it? Are there any differences?
Explain.
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>>172235868
Mina's a cunt and Ash is a bitch.
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>>172236246
>Bunnie is pure and deserves someone better than any of them though.
So Antoine.
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>>172234114
The guys running it are way, waaaaaay too invested in what they want to see from it. The lead writer is also too invested in "muh lore, muh plan, muh resolution" to be effective.

The second "issue" showed a lot of promise, because several skilled amateur artists poured their hearts into their work. The writers, while generally not that good, were surprisingly receptive to feedback too. But then the guys in charge decided they weren't gonna bother with any more "noncanon" stuff, and that should have been your first red flag.

You've got a committee of fans who are invested in their vision for the continuity working with a bunch of artists who are also working on it because they loved tge old stuff with no outside party to reel them in. This is the same situation that KILLED Spider-Man and Superman in the 90's, except here everyone involved is an amateur, the artists aren't even getting paid, and the release schedule is abysmal. It's not going to work. It's going to flounder the exact same way actual mainstream comics did under these conditions. They're locking down on just goofing off and pitching what-ifs; you gotta see how that's gonna hurt a community driven project.

If you really want to write this stuff, either make it yourself or buddy up with a passionate artist. You don't need these doofuses to make a fun fancomic and you're GOING to get burned if you stick with them. Don't wait four years to MAYBE get your story: Tell it now! It's better for everyone that way.
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>>172236273
Me?

I've been making adjustments as my friend and I read the comic together. But recently, he's slowed down his reading to about 1 issue a week when were averaging six before. I don't foresee too many more differences, especially after we get past Knuckels
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Mina is best girl

Nicole needs to Fuck off and die
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>>172236314
There used to be an anon who came around here, and made progress on revising the pre-252 half of his reading order. All of a sudden, he stopped around the Image crossover.
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>>172236467
This
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>>172236445
I actually tried out for the head writer position and even posted my pitch online after I got rejected.

Would you like to see?
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>>172236467
Go away Ash.
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>>172236467
>Mina is best girl
She's underrated, but she's nowhere near best girl
>Nicole needs to Fuck off and die
She's overrated, but you're being mean.
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>>172236369
It's funny, I never see anyone like Ash, not even Mina fans, fuck, ESPECIALLY not Mina fans
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>>172236614
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>>172236451
Okay. Just keep us posted and stuff.
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>>172236726
She doesn't deserve Sonic, but she deserves better than Assbitch the Managergoose.
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>>172235868
>not sonic and tails at bottom

D
R
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P
P
E
D
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>>172236031
Isn't that always the case?
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>>172236602
Sure. If you want, that's fine.
I'm just saying that if you've got ideas you wanna commit to paper, go for it instead of trying to squeeze it into their plans.
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>>172236871
I see more people ship her with Shadow than fucking Ash
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>>172232754
None of the above
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>>172236871
>when your ADHD is stronger than your hormones
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>>172232754
>implying I give a fuck about Sonic Generations: Dystopian Edition
What button indirectly benefits Mania the most? I'll push that one.
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>>172236986
Out of all of my ideas, they mostly took one thing out from it, which happens to be one of the biggest things I had to contribute to the cause.

I believe I've posted these here before, but here you go
http://mavrickindigo.deviantart.com/art/Archie-Sonic-Online-Plan-Revealed-639573317
http://mavrickindigo.deviantart.com/art/ASO-Character-Concepts-and-Ideas-640249401
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>>172236871
It's funny. I've never really given a shit about Mina as a character but she was always in my top 3 girls for fapping.
The fact that she's out out of the comics but still gets fan art is the best of both worlds for me
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>>172235868
You Couldn't BE MORE Wrong If YOU tried
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>>172235868
The only thing I disagree with is the Fiona ship.
Even before she went Uber evil it just never seemed genuine to me.
But yeah Mina is ascended tier.
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>>172237429
Fiona had absolutely no value as an FF and I will never understand why people wanted her to stay good. Her betrayal wasn't well executed, but she needed to go
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>>172237496
Yup
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>>172236871
That was a good outfit on her
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>>172206357
Remembering that this is happening and responding accordingly
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>>172235868
You Minafags must be the thirstiest motherfuckers.
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>>172231583
Well that's different... I guess
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>>172237295
I always thought she was cute, but initially didn't care for her character.
I started liking that more when Ian took over. Seeing Nicole get BTFO was and always will be glorious.
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>>172237695
You know the sad thing is that she really was heading down that road.
She's the Miley Cyrus of Archie Sonic. We just never got to see her development cycle complete itself, so maybe Penders did her character a favor.
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>>172237654
>You Minafags must be the thirstiest motherfuckers.
Meh, no thirstier than anyone else really. After all, no ships are canon.
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>>172237825
And then Tails helped her straighten out.
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>>172237910
>no ships are canon.
Perhaps not, but my headcanon will always reign supreme
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>>172237272
So you mean they just decided your idea that Dimitri (or another echidna, but probably Dimitri or one of his descendents since your twist is most likely that it's Dark Brotherhood tech) made Krudzu was better than any ideas they had and decided they would use it and maybe you'd get to do the script for that part for them.

...Bro, I gotta be honest with you. You're not getting anything of value out of this bargain. You're seriously better off finding some friends, practicing your own art, workshopping ideas, and just making your own comics for funsies.
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>>172237946
>Mommy, Daddy, can you tell me the story of how you fell in love?
>Well, sweetie, we both reminded each other of the King!
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>>172237295
Sauce for image? Artist looks familiar but can't remember their name
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>>172237946
Daaaawwwwwww

>>172238031
He should do it because he enjoys it, not because he wants publicity. If it's good enough it will get some fans.
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>>172238031
It wasn't the dark Brotherhood that made the Krudzu, no. They were a part of another group of pre-ian concepts that haven't been addressed except in the encyclopedia since before issue 100
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>>172238054
Artists is DanteMustDie
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>>172237910
>After all, no ships are canon.
>>172238054
NextGrandCross. I think he went inactive though so what's there is all that'll ever be
>>172238192
The Knights of Kronos? Ixis Masterworks?
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>>172238031
>>172238137
Right now, I'm focused on my own original work. It's not much, but it also allows me to get paid to write stuff for people, and I always enjoy trying out new things.

If artist bros/sis's want to make a sonic comic with me, I'm game, but I'm gonna focus on my own stuff.
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>>172237910

No ships are canon, but that doesn't stop me from liking some of them
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>>172238227
>best girl is the only girl that's canonically taken and off limits
Why are we here, if only to suffer?
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>>172238137
>He should do it because he enjoys it, not because he wants publicity.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

The only thing working with these guys is gonna get him is attention (assuming it even runs long enough for his idea to show up and be credited to him). I'm saying he should just have fun and make his own damn comics instead of waiting on his ass so one idea can be used and he can write dialogue for someone else's story occasionally.
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>>172238227
I cannot confirm nor deny either of those, since I promised I wouldn't tell. Though I made that "redacted" statment so that canny people could fill in the blanks.
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>>172238317
It's sonic, anon.
Your headcanon is all that matters. Because chances are it will be more consistant than Sega's.

>>172238350
It's completely possible he gets picked up by them to do some writing, but yeah I agree he should place all his chips on it. In fact, he's more likely to get noticed and picked up if he attracts attention to his own original work by it being high quality.
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>>172237496
She had no value as executed, but the concept of "bad girl now on the side of good" had a lot of potential, had the virtue of being one of the few character types that hadn't been done before (Snively came later) and I honestly wish Ian had done more with that instead of making her pretty much immediately go to being evil.

But potential =/= execution, otherwise we'd all be Penders apologists, so yeah, she was a pretty bad character overall.
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>>172238228
Looks like Tails needs to let the kids go play in the water a bit. He needs some alone time with the Misses to satisfy his sudden... urge
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>>172237910
>no ships are canon
With the exception of Antoine and Bunnie yeah, and, despite my love for some ships, I hope it stays that way.
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>>172238752
I am perfectly fine with bad girl fiona
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>>172238829
>I am perfectly fine with bad girl fiona
Yeah same
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This was almost something.
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>>172238829
She's my favorite girl.

I also love her sticks hybrid.
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>>172238887
NICOLE.
DESKTOP.
ASSISTANT.
WHEN?!?!?!?!
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>>172238752
The problem was that the only reason she was brought back was to be a love interest and drive a wedge between Sonic, Tails, and Sally. That's it, and as long as Fiona was on the team, there'd be this weird undertone, especially whenever Tails showed up because he didn't like her. He liked the version of her that took her place and died on that island, and he's projecting those feelings onto the real one, and she probably knows that
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>>172239028
5-10 years.
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It's been hard to replace the hole the pendering left in me when it took Fiona away but Ecco is starting to fill it.
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>>172207705
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>>172239135
We must go faster
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Anyone remember the credit scene trailers from SA2? I miss when Sonic Team used to do stuff like this.
https://youtu.be/Vk_7bI8GQOw
https://youtu.be/IA2l3MFU7ow
https://youtu.be/1llywocOMzs
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>>172239364
I think these are removed from the remasters
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>>172238752
Rouge already existed at the time, and was pretty squarely not evil.
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>>172239450
really, I could have sworn they're in the game
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>>172239135
Reboot character art is too snouty
Can't fap to it.

Though I suppose that's the point.
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>>172239209

I didn't even know there was Zouge fanart.
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>>172239536
>no paws
>no dress
>shorter hair
Take it back, start over
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>>172239602
That pendant annoys me more than anything desu. Seems like something an old lady would wear
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>>172239480
Rouge was never a member of the Freedom Fighters, and in fact she pretty much was evil up until right after Ian took over.
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>>172239536
d-does she want me to go with her?
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>>172239480
Eh, pre reboot Rouge leaned a bit more evil than normal Rouge. If not evil then definitely a bigger birch. Someone post the scene with Julie Su
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>>172239673
But it's fashionable.
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>>172232754
1 & 3 are close but I really have to say three. Good controls only take you so far if there is nothing to come back to but fun level designs will always be there. It's why I play Unleashed more often than Colors or Generations.
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I need cute blobs. Please provide cute blobs.
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>>172239602
Leggings tho
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>>172239701
>>172239734
Ya'll have terrible memories.

She was exclusively portrayed as a good guy in the comics until RIGHT before Ian joined. And then Ian made her even more morally nebulous than Ken did before immediately dialing it back down so readers could get a good sense for her character.

Seriously, read 108-149, she's never treated as anything more than a generic government agent.
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>>172239884
Fair point

>>172240021
What is that long thing?
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>>172232754
Button one
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They should really just kill robotnik at this point. There's no reason not to.
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>>172241140
In the comics, I agree.
In the games, at least as of recently, he's nowhere near as evil.
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>>172239884
>Girls are forced to wear clothes
>All the major ones are wearing skintight spandex or leather

Lewd

But seriously, nearly every major girl in the comics wears spandex or tight shorts.
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>>172240530
I was thinking of Ian's rouge when I said that. Fuck, she was downright heartless in TTT
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New sonic tweet, too lazy to post
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>>172241193
In the comics, killing him would create an insane power vacuum
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>>172241338
Got it.
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>>172241338
https://twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/846422462589915136
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>>172241596
>Too Fast
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>>172237910
No ships are canon, but it's still fun to like them.

>>172235868
I mean I know this is a joke pic, but this did remind me of how awful Sonic's relationships were in the comics. Also, SonAmy being that low is shit taste.
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>>172240021
nicole's f-feet...
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>>172241793
It's probably my favourite reboot image of her
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>>172205186
>tfw sonic scanf is dead
>Can't read my comics comfly
>didn't read them since this
feels bad man
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>>172241708
Not even him buy I legitimately like all those ships better team so amy except fiona
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>>172242276
>Not even him buy I legitimately like all those ships better team so amy except fiona
In english please?
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>>172239527
>Can't fap to it.

pleb
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>>172242261
what's wrong with tails.kicks-ass.net?
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>>172237209
Sonic musou?
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>>172242261
>>172242490
Or better yet, readcomiconline.
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>>172239527
>Can't fap to it
what a loser ha anon step it the fuck up and fap like the rest of us degenerates

but no seriously it's not usually this snout-y, Evan Stanley's art in particular tends to make the snouts a lot more pronounced
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>>172242490
>>172242592
Thanks
I liked scanf better because their listing of the comics was neat with the cover/preview
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So I was certain that I was both straight and not a furry, but for whatever reason I think Shadow is kind of hot. I don't know what it is.
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>>172242924
Being gay for furry boys doesn't make you gay irl.

Embrace the fetish. Only then can you learn to control it.
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Bunnie is still everyone's favourite, right?
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>>172243037
>Being gay for furry boys doesn't make you gay irl
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>>172243096
Eh. I like her, but I like some of the other females more (Amy, Blaze, Rouge to be specific).
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>>172243096
Yes.
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>>172243096
Bunnie makes for a pretty A+ waifu. I enjoyed the bits and pieces of her as a character too, shame we won't get to see where she goes in the reboot now. She and Antoine are cute.

Also she has a southern accent and i'm such a sucker for those that hearing her in bed might actually cause me to finish prematurely
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>>172243096
Of course.
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>>172243096
Fuck man I need more battle-hardened Bunnie.
Who should I commission? I'm willing to pay.
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>>172237946
Still want a pic of them fighting over who has to wear the Sonic mask that night.
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>>172244040
This. I need more of it
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>>172243096
Second only to Nicole
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>>172238965
>tfw the reversal in thr Journey to the West arc got you hard
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>>172239364
I fucking loved those. I wish they were a thing again.
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>>172244186
Prepare for tons of shitposting for mentioning Nicole. Why is it that the mere mention of Silver, Nicole, sometimes Bunnie & Amy leads to massive amounts of shitposting?
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>>172239602
I accept it all in exchange for the bustier Nicole in skintight leggings that we got.
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>>172244326
Nicole has a hate base, but her fanbase here is much larger.
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>>172244213
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>>172244040
ABT
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>>172244469
Well, that's about true for all the aforementioned characters. Shame that people feel the need to be a dick about their hatred for a cartoon animal.
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>>172242531
Dynasty/Samurai/Hyrule/Fire Emblem/Whatever the fuck Warriors
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>>172241236
And god did it do wonders for them.
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>>172243546
>sucker for southern accents

I feel you.
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>>172244570
We don't get stuff like this anymore. Shame.
But to hell with it, just let the comic live and I'll be happy.
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>>172242490
TKA has garbage UI. RCO is fine though, save for the watermark border.
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>>172244729
We don't get Sally punching Fiona for her shit game taste anymore?
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>>172244040
ABT and EpicTones for sure.
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Techinl it's the destination, not the yourney
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>>172243546
>>172244681
Actually living in the south has turned me off southern accents in a big way because the average southern girl IRL is obnoxious trailer trash unless they're living in the city and have a correspondingly light accent.
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>>172241596

>Display until June 1 2017

That's not important at all.
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>>172243096
Always and forever for me.
>best bod
>best heart
>tomboy
>great cook
>hottest accent
11/10 wife material.
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>>172244948

That's the problem with the Southern belle stereotype; that's a thing that was relevant in the 50's/60's, but nowadays they'd probably just move elsewhere.
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>>172243096
She's pretty cool and cute. I like her many uses of her robot parts. She needs to be put out there more in the comics like a lot of the girl characters.
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>>172245641
I find the hottest "southern" accents are just fake non-descript generic "southern" accents that don't really sound like a real world accent, though that might just be because I grew up with SatAM and ReBoot.
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>>172245481
What, are you trying to say that date may have some meaning?

>>172241596
>Too fast

How could Amy move too fast for Sonic?
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>>172244948
I won't disagree with that being the average, but if you look hard enough you can find the occasional gem.

>>172244040
ABT is still taking $20 digital commissions and knows his way around action.
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>>172243096
Sallyfag reporting in.
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>>172244948
>Being an elitist
Plenty of intelligent men and women live in Southern states, anon. The media's misunderstanding of the urban, rural, and impoverished aspects of thr South is kind of sad, really.
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>>172246153
What part of "actually living in the south" did you not comprehend?
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>>172246238
Maybe you shouldn't have lived in a fucking shithole, anon. TN is where it's at.
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What is this fanfic that everyone keeps talking about??
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>>172246321
Martin reporting, what up TNfag?
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>>172246370
Green Hill Academy. It's an unbelievable trainwreck of a fanfic.
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>>172246238
Oh, I understand. I'm just saying you're an elitist who shuns his fellow men and women based on a combination of limited experience and stereotypes that reaffirm them.

I live in Georgia. I know what hicks and sanctimonious, religious zealots look like. You're still selling your neighbors short.
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>>172246454
Living the suburban dream.
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>>172246458
Every fanfic is fucking trash except for this one
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>>172246554
I know how you feel. I bascially live in canada's equivialent of the dirty south.
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>>172245538
Her biggest problem is that she doesn't really have distinct character flaws.
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>>172246458
I never read it, whats so awful about it?
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>>172246321
>>172246554
Former Alabamian checking in. Got out three years ago. Only miss friends and family; fuck everything else about that state.
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>>172246841
It's like Glee but edgier and with Sonic characters.
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>>172246931
I heard the literacy rate there is something crazy like 60 or 70%
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>>172246739
>>172246739
The thing is, she does (Codependency to an unhealthy degree, impulsiveness, running away from any problems that can't be solved with her fists, putting her emotions ahead of logic), but she never gets enough focus or stories about her that bother to show these off. A lot of Bunnie's personality traits are things that aren't explicitly shown off. People think that because she shows up a lot, that she gets a lot of focus, but that's not the case. In fact, out of all the FFs, outside of maybe Rotor, she has the least amount of stories ABOUT her, as compared to stories that simply involve her, and even less that don't involve Antoine. In fact, on that end, I can think of only 3 stories that fit that: 1 from the really early comics, Thicker than Water (Which is debateable at best), and the 281 backup, which was just that, a backup. Hidden Costs is more about Cassia and Clove than Bunnie.

Now of course, there have been attempts to remedy this, as both pre-reboot and now, there was an attempt by Ian to give her a unique character arc, but it gets cut short due to reasons outside of Ian's control (The reboot and the hiatus/cancellation respectively)
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>>172246841
To summarize some of the shit that's happened in the fic:

>Amy likes Sonic
>Sonic kinda likes Amy
>Silver likes Blaze
>Blaze fucks Sonic
>Amy decides to fuck Scourge, who wants Sally
>Sonic found out, got pissed & wants nothing to do with Amy anymore
>Amy, upset over losing Sonic, decides to fuck Scourge some more
>Somehow, Silver & Blaze get together, Sonic hooked up with Sally & now Amy's with Mighty. And I think Sonic now wants Amy back

And in between all of this, Jet bullied Rotor for being gay & after he and his friends beat Rotor up in the showers & Eclipse violated him with a hockey stick on camera, Rotor killed himself.

Oh, and there's abortions, drug use, mental breakdowns etc.
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>>172247081
That sounds like bull shit.

There's no way it's not lower.
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>>172245481
"Hi I'm Sonic Mania and this is my release date."
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>>172244281
maybe when there's multiple characters again
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>>172246554
Look, all I'm saying is I've spent time in Florida (including the panhandle), Georgia, Mississippi, Louisiana, Kansas, and am currently living in Oklahoma, and every time without fail, every time I hear a woman with a thick accent they are always either trailer trash or unironically https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUFL2GT1-2g
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>>172247091
She's shown before to be strong enough physically and emotionally to deal with things on her own. Any minor flaw she does have is not prominent enough in her character to cause her problems and really the only way to get to her is psychologically, which takes a lot of time to set up and execute properly.
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>>172247121
Oh & rape. Can't forget the rape.
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>>172247121
sounds like shit

>Oh, and there's abortions, drug use, mental breakdowns etc.
Nevermind sounds fucking funny


Gimme a link
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When was the last time Potto paid a visit?

Where the fuck is lost hedgehog tales?
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>>172247263
>Florida (panhandle)
>Mississippi
I'm so, so sorry anon, especially for that last one. There's a reason that where I'm from there's a saying that goes "Thank God for Mississippi."

I doubt that will hold true much longer.
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>>172246458
Jfc that does sound awful.
>Jet bullies Rotor for being gay
L O FUCKING L
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>>172239602
Only thing I really miss was her longer hair. The dress was just 'ok' and the paws appealed to my fetish but otherwise her new outfit is far more appealing on my eye-holes.
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>>172247486
Probably not since December 2015. Shitposting ramped up 500% shortly after and only abates in small stretches since.
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>>172247585
>It was another three years of living in a hellish nightmare that only seemed to get worse. Mom's drinking never let up, if anything it worsened just as the beatings.

>My brother couldn't take it anymore.

>At age fifteen my brother Predator Hawk hung himself from the ceiling fan in his room with a belt.

>I was the one who found him and cut him loose. I didn't call the police or anyone. I held his cold body in my arms as I sobbed into the shoulder of his corpse.

>How could he? How could he leave me all alone in the world?

>My life was perfect. Everything was great until my dad abandoned us, like we never meant anything in the first place.

>"I didn't make your brother kill himself Jet." My mom told me, placing a hand on my back as we stood in front of Predator's grave. "Your father did this…he ruined all of us with his disgusting affliction. Your brother is dead because your father chose to be a faggot."

>"I hate him….I hate them all." I growled, tightening my fists as I stared at the stone before me. "Faggots are disgusting…and I hope they all die." '
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>>172247483
Read at your own peril: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11733618/1/Green-Hill-Academy

Oh & I also forgot: Nicole is muslim here & Mina's racist.
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>>172247730
>Mfw all of this
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>>172247585
>>172247717
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>>172247863
74 CHAPTERS AND ONGOING

594,316 WORDS CURRENTLY
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>>172247730
>73 chapters
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>>172247730
Mina gets raped by Thrash too
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>>172247431
Who gets raped?
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>>172246995
Artist,
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Bruised or exhausted sally and Bunnie get me harder than literally any picture of any woman can.
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>>172248379
abt duh
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>>172247091
>Codependency to an unhealthy degree, impulsiveness, putting her emotions ahead of logic
Problem is that these are also Pre-reboot Sally's problems, and are more explicit in Sally's case.
>running away from any problems that can't be solved with her fists
And this one only shows up in any way twice. Ever.

To be quite frank, Ian actually did kind of a shit job with the Freedom Fighters. He bothered to restore their personalities, but Sally and Nicole are the only ones that mattered outside a couple issues. It shouldn't have taken 100+ issues to get as little out of Antoine, Bunnie and Rotor as we did, "worldbuilding" and "setup" be damned.
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>>172248468
Giving them pink bellies would make it better
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Does ABT not have an FA account?
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>>172247284
>She's shown before to be strong enough physically and emotionally to deal with things on her own
That is true....as long as Antoine or Sally is around. Take them out of the equation and she falls apart on some level (Antoine getting replaced by Patch without her knowing did cause her some level of grief as seen in 144, and do I really need to mention how she fell apart after Antoine "died" and Sally got robotocized) And again, while your second point is valid, that's more because she never gets enough focus to show OFF these flaws of hers. Let's take someone like Sally for example. She got a shitton of focus in the comics, especially pre-reboot, so you got to see all of her flaws, both obvious and subtle. This isn't the case with Bunnie, who more often than not is there for the sake of just....being there.
>>172247284
>and really the only way to get to her is psychologically, which takes a lot of time to set up and execute properly.
And they were going to do that, with Beau, and it's perfect for her character because it puts her in a nigh unwinnable situation, and one she can't run from or take the easy way out of forever.

The problem is that Bunnie does have what it takes to be just as nuanced and interesting as some of the most developed characters, but nobody ever bothers to take advantage of that. This even extends to the fanbase, where you'll rarely, if ever see her in fanfics unless it's just as "Sally's friend". I can count the amount of fics I've seen about her on one fucking hand, and those that don't involve Antoine on none. Don't get me wrong, I love Antoine, and I love their relationship, but I hate that there's people that believe that her character is just "Antoine's wife" and refuse to pay attention to any other part of her

Being a Bunniefag is an abstract kind of suffering. Like she's used, she's not dead or completely thrown to the void, but at the same time she never gets used to her fullest

Cont
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>>172248720
He has a DA and tumblr.
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>>172248245
Mina or Julie-Su. I forgot, but I know Thrash did the raping.
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>>172248468
Check /trash/, my nigger.

Bunnie/Sally light ryona doujin of the two of them sparring NEVER EVER
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>>172248527
>Problem is that these are also Pre-reboot Sally's problems, and are more explicit in Sally's case.
Actually, I'd say the codependency thing is the opposite with her. Sally tends to be very guarded in terms of telling people what's wrong, and tries to get everything done on her own.
>>172248527
>And this one only shows up in any way twice. Ever.
Because she barely has 4 or 5 stories that give her character focus. Ever.
>>172248527
>To be quite frank, Ian actually did kind of a shit job with the Freedom Fighters. He bothered to restore their personalities, but Sally and Nicole are the only ones that mattered outside a couple issues. It shouldn't have taken 100+ issues to get as little out of Antoine, Bunnie and Rotor as we did, "worldbuilding" and "setup" be damned.
I do kind of agree, albeit I think he's still the only writer who gave a single shit about Bunnie outside of maybe Decesare and Gallagher and that is stretching it. I mean he's the first writer to give her a subplot that isn't shared with Antoine
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>>172247091
I counted it up before, and despite what you would expect Antoine has the least stories, followed by Rotor. Bunnie actually has the most after Sally and Nicole.

Weird, huh?
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>>172248720
Why would he? He by and large draws SFW.
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>>172249114
>I mean he's the first writer to give her a subplot that isn't shared with Antoine
Rich Koslowski.

DeCesare handled her, Bunnie AND Uncle Chuck while Ken got Knux and Sally and Gallagher got Tails and Rotor, so he kinda had to squeeze a couple of their stories together...and yet he still wrote like six Bunnie solos and was nearly the only writer to use her pre-EndGame.
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>>172248790
>that's more because she never gets enough focus to show OFF these flaws of hers
No, it's because she doesn't have them. She overcame Antoine being in a coma by herself and she's been shown to handle solo missions just fine.
>And they were going to do that, with Beau
You mean they did that with Beau and ended up persevering on her own anyways. It did not introduce a flaw, it was a character arc. She faced a situation, struggled to overcome it, and eventually did.
When she stops being written as a one-note character and actually reveals to have some flaws I'll care about her past the cute factor.
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>>172248963
>He has a DA and tumblr.
Well that's disappointing
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>>172249361
>her, Bunnie
Whoops.

Meant to say her, Antoine and Chuck.
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>>172249139
>Why would he? He by and large draws SFW.
>by and large
Is he opposed to NSFW
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>>172249139
He used to have an inkbunny account.
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>>172249441
>When she stops being written as a one-note character and actually reveals to have some flaws I'll care about her past the cute factor.
What flaws could you give her? I was thinking maybe you could make her a lot more fight happy. Or, somehow seperate her and Antoine (Not like a divorce, but time is fucked up so her and Antoine never get together) so she's a bit angrier or more reserved.

It's about time she became a character rather than a glorified flying brick
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>>172249564
Of Sonic characters, mostly yes. Of non-Sonic characters, it seems no, based on his Tumblr account.
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So this exists.

http://www.itsamike.com/evil-ham
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>>172249882
Was this before or after IB became cub central?
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>>172249129
How the fuck is that possible? Are you counting stories about them, or stories they showed up in? There is a big difference
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>>172249935
Actually being emotionally reliant on the people around her would be a good start. Show that she's still a bit nervous without friends around as remnant's from her lonely past from before they were around. Not talking full on PTSD but being a little more socially awkward on her own or easier to trick with words, etc.
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>>172243096
She's a good girl and waifu material, but not my favorite.
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>>172250206
I like that. Perhaps she can come off as a bit blunt as a result of that. She genuinely doesn't know how to relate to others too well, so if like, someone's dad died she'd say "That sucks." or "Well everyone dies eventually"
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>>172250056
Oh my god. This is awesome.
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>>172250321
She's too sweet for that crap. I'm talking social awkwardness in that she's not as outgoing, not in that she turns into a sperg.
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>>172250478
>8 dollars for ham
Hey Mike, how was your day?
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>>172250530
I dunno, I kind of want to differentiate her attitude a bit from Amy, who also falls into the "sugary sweet girl" category
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>>172250445
I know exactly what you mean
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>>172249985
He seems to be fine with artistic toplessness and suggestiveness when he feels like it, but is opposed to outright porn.
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>>172249935
Stubbornness about her convictions (as in, she can't let things go if it's something she feels strongly about. She's more supportive while Rotor is pessimistic, so it would make sense for her to get into extremely heated arguments with him and keep persisting long after he's dropped it.)
Difficulty with discouraging people she cares about ("Sally you're a GREAT cook hon, don't beat yourself up!")
Annoyingly self-depreciative ("It was nothing, really sugar!" "Oh, I'm just plain homely, don't kid yourself!" "I don't deserve this, really!")
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>>172247486
October.

LHT is on indefinite hiatus.
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>>172249935
>I was thinking maybe you could make her a lot more fight happy. Or, somehow seperate her and Antoine

Haven't seen this in awhile.
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>>172250083
Stories starring them/about them, although that generally holds for appearances too if you ignore Nicole.

Bunnie has the most stories about her of the three neglected FFs by a significant margin.
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>>172247486
Ian stopped making LHT because people kept suing Archie
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>>172250608
>also
Bunnie isn't "sugary sweet". She's a more subdued home-y type of sweet.
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>>172251393
She's still the sweet girl, and that overlaps with Amy. Having Bunnie be the one who tries to be nice and kind but has a hell of a time actually doing it would be unique
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>>172250206
>Anon A wants her to be unconsciously socially dependent.
>>172250942
>Anon B wants her to be subconsciously emotionally manipulative.

Why not both?
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>>172250942
>Stubbornness about her convictions
ISn't she like that already to a degree?

Honestly you could do this now. Have Rotor and Bunnie get into a heated argument about say, what to do with say, Cassia and Clove if there comes a chance to go save them/they want to turn on Eggman

Bunnie would argue that it's "The right thing to do" because she feels it so strongly, while Rotor argues against it because it makes no logical sense to him. And Sally's somewhere in the middle because she thinks with both emotion and logic, while the other two fulfill rather extreme ends of that spectrum by default
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>>172251264
On the pace he was going, I don't think it would've mattered if they were suing Archie or not. It was probably not gonna come out.
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>>172251527
God forbid we have two different types of sweet on the same team. Shit does not need to be different for the sake of being different, stupid.
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>>172251840
The only time she's ever asserted her own viewpoint was when her uncle was on the line and she was not only willing to listen but dropped her idea as soon as a better alternative was presented. Making it more of an overt flaw would be a change.
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I wonder which is more canon to the show, Rise of Lyric or Shattered Crystal.
Both introduced Lyric as a new villain in different ways.
Rise of Lyric was on a major home console.
But Shattered Crystal got a sequel.
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>>172252196
True, true. Wow, Bunnie is pretty goddamn empty as a character isn't she?
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>>172252528
Rise of Lyric is practically non-canon.
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>>172252528
The only thing canon to the show is whatever the writers feel like bringing up for laughs.
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>>172250056
I honestly think this is sad, how much of a poorfag is he? And who is stupid enough to buy this?
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>>172252593
No, she's pretty well characterized, probably the best and most consistent out of the cast; she just lacks overarching conflict aside from "muh robot limbs" (which nobody cares about) and is mostly bereft of flaws. Ian approached Rotor, Bunnie and Antoine as if they had character arcs offscreen without actually thinking about what those arcs are in Rotor and Bunnie's cases. So for both characters you ended up with pretty much no flaws to speak of and nothing currently challenging them internally, just external factors (their bodies and families in both cases).
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>>172252119
It's like Rotor and Tails. Yeah they do different shit, but to most people it just feels redundant. Besides, I think it'd balance out the female cast of the FFs. Serious leader Sally, genki girl Amy, and socially awkward Bunnie
Also I think it'd be kind of cool if they pushed back the relationship with Antoine so that it occured at this point rather than them being childhood sweethearts. They get together for some reason, and this gets Bunnie out of her shell
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>>172253294
Most people are also retarded so who cares.
Can't retcon that now. It's already part of this universe and I'm happy with it.
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>>172253250
maybe...?

Maybe these comics...aren't very good???
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>>172254158
No, they're good. They just have issues, like all comics do, even the best ones
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>>172254158
This

They're not funny, they're not very 'zany' or goofy because Ian thinks Sonic's 'too good for that'. However they aren't very good at writing interesting stories or scenarios for the characters to be in.
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>>172254289
Speak for yourself. I enjoy them. Which likely means I have bad taste, but regardless, the scenarios introduced and the sense of humor are there and entertaining for me.
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>>172254289
All of that is subjective and I disagree completely.
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>>172254289
Honestly I think it's good they're dying. Maybe they can be handed to a creative team that can do interesting things. Or embrace how zany and goofy Sonic is and just kind of not take itself seriously at all

I'm not saying make it Pontaff. Just make it like the early comics where it's more self contained and focused on jokes
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>>172254446
>not take itself seriously at all
Oh, you're one of those.
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>>172253984
LMFAO
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>>172254631
I don't mean make it Colors where it's quips per second. But like, more stories that are about putting them in crazy situations would be nice. For example
>Rouge goes on a heist, accidentally brings Omega, shenanigans ensue
Is better than
>Characters angst about family and shit
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>>172254214
Maybe it's just...adequate?
Maybe we pretend it's better than it is?
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>>172254735
>better than
Says you. It needs a balance of both and if you don't think so then you are a dense idiot.
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>>172254836
Sonic never really does angst well desu. It can have serious moments in those stories, but ideally, they wouldn't be super dramatic character developments. The serious moments would be rare enough so that when they do happen, it means something rather than more pointless drama. Like in the example I gave, maybe Rouge thinks about whether what she's doing is right by the end or some shit
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>>172254836
>Anyone who prefers something I don't is stupid!

Mate, I love dramas and dramedies, but my favorite issues are DeCesare's goofy character stories and Ian's oneshots/two parters. A less continuity focused comic is probably the better choice from a quality standpoint.
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>>172250596
It's not just ham, anon. It's Evil Ham.
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>>172255001
>never
Keep digging that whole. It has done angst well before. It needs to be handled carefully but saying it's all bad or worse is retarded.
>they wouldn't be super dramatic character developments
So none of the things that are the most memorable in the comic so far and were happening during the most popular era of the comic? Truly the best solution.
>>172255014
Nah.
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>>172255014
The strong continuity was the comic's best selling point for 20+ years before the reboot wiped most of it. It's what kept it going for so long, and axing that takes the majority of the readers with it, as history proves.
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>>172255193
What's your favorite story, then?
All mine are the shorter ones that don't require heavy continuity. The Vol-Ant-Eer, Thicker Than Water, etc.
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>>172254412
>>172254413
The problem is that Ian sucks at pacing, he also a very 'fanny' writer; in the sense that he tries to appeal to too many parts of the base yet at the same time tries to reel himself in. He'll tease ships but will never launch them, he'll parachute a reference in and call it a joke. He won't do anything too off the wall or verly silly because he wants to write drama, but won't even go too far there because he doesn't want to be seen as a new Penders. Which is fine, but it means that there's very little bite to his stories.

It's just adequate, and I think the lack of sales reflects that. The comic can't survive on it's own fanboys, who will lash out at anyone who criticises it for it's shortcomings with ad hominems and trot out mandate excuses. Or say that you can't write a long running comic without having some 'character development' or 'drama', when Tintin and Asterix have managed to do just that by putting said eponymous characters in funny and exciting situations.

It's better than Penders, but at this point that's not saying much. You can't have your cake and eat it.
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>>172255193
>Keep digging that whole. It has done angst well before. It needs to be handled carefully but saying it's all bad or worse is retarded.
I mean, the best it ever did was Shadow in SA2 and even that was a bit narmy. Besides, not like Sega would ever let you develop the cast anyways, so making a continuity focused comic with them is a bad idea. Having it be more like the Sonic channel comics where it's cute SOL stuff (Maybe some action stories too, like Sonic faces a weird new robot) with about as much continuity as the games
>>172255403
All of this. We need new writers and a new direction. Maybe a safer one like I suggested. I mean, you can do what the duck comics did, just with Sonic. KEep putting them in weird creative situations and see what happens. Like what happens if the Chaotix and Team Dark are forced to team up? Or Silver is launched into the events of Sonic 1 and shenanigans ensue. You don't need OCs to tell these stories
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>>172255001
Then I guess you would like the reboot then cause that's literally what it is.
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>>172255249
>The strong continuity was the comic's best selling point for 20+ years
There was such little and shaky continuity between writers pre-Ian that Bollers and Penders storylines made more sense if you ignored the other existed. The first 40 issues barely have continuity at all.

>Sales
Were on a slow but steady decline since 05 and tanked after a 3 month hiatus.

It's consistency in the schedule that sold, not continuity being air tight. Otherwise filler issues like 113 would have bombed sales.
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>>172255014
>a less continuity-focused comic is probably the better choice from a quality standpoint
You go read Life and Times, then come back and say that with a straight face.
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>>172255403
>You can't have your cake and eat it.
It's, "You can't eat your cake and have it too."

Ask Harlan Ellison.
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>>172255884
That's a fucking disney comic, none of the "development" Scrooge got likely stuck in any way. At the end of the day he's still the same greedy asshole
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>>172255680
This. Amazing that a lot of the complaints people continue to make about the comics (pointless angst, having a balance between light hearted moments & angst, etc.) isn't really a problem with the reboot comics.
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>>172255884
But that's less focused on continuity than the current Sonic comics. It HAS continuity, but it doesn't sacrifice entire chapters on the altars of worldbuilding and "We'll Come Back Later Probably!" Stories exist as entertainment first and foremost, their continuity being secondary to that.
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>>172255385
I can't remember the name of them but the entire era from around when Beau or the SFFs showed up, whichever was first, to the reboot was golden aside from the Coucil. Rotor faced his practical uselessness and overcame it with technology, the Babylon Rogues managed to actually cause trouble enough to let us see one of the few times Sonic was seriously angry, Sally faced a difficult decision that would cause a lot of internal problems with many characters and likely herself after being reverted, Bunnie faced her own conundrum after getting the one thing she always truly wanted, etc. etc. It was investing and made you care about the characters and their actions and made you want to read what else happened before or after. The single worst part about it is that it never got to wrap up, even though it was right before the reboot so everyone makes Ian out as some monster or like that arc was going to continue being as serious as it was forever. The Sonic Universe issues during that time were also great, barring MXYL.
>>172255601
That shit fits the Boom comic better as it lacks any continuity whatsoever. Too bad about that one. It was getting pretty great before they canned it.
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>>172255403
>He won't do anything too off the wall or verly silly because he wants to write drama, but won't even go too far there because he doesn't want to be seen as a new Penders.

We were so close.
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>>172256248
Fuck me man, I was looking forward to all the issues after that, because it was the kind of goofy shit that was more than needed. Just cute little character stories, but no, fucking Archie jesus christ
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>>172256248
M-maybe the SEGA & Archie talks will end with the comics coming back? Pls ;_;
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>>172256219
>That shit fits the Boom comic better as it lacks any continuity whatsoever. Too bad about that one. It was getting pretty great before they canned it.
Why can't the main comics get rebooted to be like that, at least tonally?
>>172256210
Entire stories shouldn't be dedicated to setting up shit. It' better to have self contained stories that are good and can be read without reading anything else than that kind of thing. Sonic doesn't need worldbuilding, it just needs good stories with wacky scenarios
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>>172255680
>He says after half of the reboot's issues are buildup, character introductions and DEEP LORE instead of fun stories.

Champions is pretty much the only arc that's focused on being a whimsy adventure, and it's pretty much the only reboot arc that gets praise. You need a direction, a goal, and to shake things up occasionally, but Ian's approach to laying things out for later in both Sonic and Mega Man is fucking TERRIBLE. It's a bore to read, wastes time, and doesn't mean shit when the elements come back up later.
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So, anyone here played Knuckles' Chaotix? I recently beat it with a friend and I'm not sure it was a good idea.

Simply put, Charmy is fucking broken. What's the point of all this platforming if you can just fly anywhere and have your partner floating all the time? It destroys any gameplay mechanics that rubber-band system tried to implement.

Although, to be honest, I think the whole rubber band system just doesn't work. Graphics and music are still pretty god damn great though.
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>>172255752
Are you really going to ignore the decline of comic sales in general? Marvel and DC now constantly do reboots and events because interest dies quickly after the first few issues.
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>>172256595
>only reboot arc that gets praise

Shattered, the Chaotix arc & depending on who you ask, Spark of Life was also praised.
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>>172256595
This. The entire reboot should've just been fun stories. Straight out the gate with all the fun wacky shit, no buildup, no worldbuilding, just doing that. If you introduce characters, just have them there for the wacky shit and then kick them out until they show up again
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>>172256705
Don't forget Eggman's Dozen
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>>172256595
>it's a bore to read
Says fucking you. The setup and payoff in the Ra Moon arc was handled beautifully, and the seeds sown for MM4 looked to deliver just as well.
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>>172256705
Notice that they're all self-contained Universe arcs.

I was talking about the main comic, but yes, the other standalone arcs got some love too.
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>>172256494
Because what would be the point? The reboot has a great balance of both going and rebooting again would almost surely kill the comics this time around. Stop letting your shit taste affect your ability to think.
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>>172256595
>>172256740
That's nice.

>>172256862
Oh, & Eggman's Dozen. And I've seen some people enjoy Silver Age, so pretty much every Universe arc post-reboot has been praised.

>>172256971
Well, people also enjoyed Panic in the Sky from the main comic.
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The other thing that occurred to me is, do we really quote the dialogue from the comic here? Apart from 'LIMIT' or other pre-reboot stuff I can't think of anything. Which again, I feel is indicative of how we like the comic because we like the characters already rather than because it's very well written.
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>>172257006
A reboot and renumbering under a new publisher would probably boost sales a bit
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>>172256595
>no Eggman's Dozen
>no Pirate Princess
>no Shattered
Your bias is showing, anon
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>>172257086
Let DC be an example that rebooting multiple times in a short span of time kills sales pretty hard.
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>the entire post-reboot after Countdown to Chaos and before Worlds Unite was solid with a nice blend of adventure, cute character moments, some humor, and an overarching plot in the background
>this doesn't count because it's more serious than the Teletubbies and because post-Worlds Unite suffered from obvious compression
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>>172257070
To be fair, comics are rarely quoted in general, probably because they're harder to remember than say, lyrics or quotes from a movie. I mean, how many comic quotes do you remember? Compare that to the number of movie quotes you can remember? The audio/visual aspect of movies makes certain things stick out more.

Better yet, if the Faker scene was comic exclusive, a lot less people would quote it, because the whole reason stuff rom the games is remembered is because of the voice delivery, cinematography, the whole works
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>>172256874
Nice job ignoring the tedious and worthless build up for 6, 3 dragging out for eight issues just to give slightly more context to later events, and the six fucking "hype" stories they blew the X license on instead of just telling even one satisfying event.
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>>172257070
CHAOS

IS

THE CONSTANT
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>>172257070
People talk about & post certain moments they love in the comics all the time.

>>172257248
They probably don't count it, because these probably have probably never read the reboot.
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>>172257070
BLAM BLAM BLAM
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>>172257218
Which is why Rebirth is the best most books have sold in year, right?
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>>172257347
>People talk about & post certain moments they love in the comics all the time.

Such as? All I can think of is the fight between Bunnie and Clove, we certainly don't quote much of it here as much as the pre-reboot stuff (pursue aquatic life).
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>>172257420
I wonder how long that'll last.
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>>172257058
>people also enjoyed Panic in the Sky

>Point was that people didn't seem too invested in the monotonous buildup
>"But they liked the ending!"
No shit? You can't end an arc on more buildup unless you're Penders. That's kind of the point being made here.

>>172257248
>the entire post-reboot after Countdown to Chaos and before Worlds Unite was solid with a nice blend of adventure, cute character moments, some humor, and an overarching plot in the background
Yeah man, everyone loves Waves of Change and its interminable exposition.

The Chase was nice, but shit, our intro arcs weren't very good overall.
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>>172256705
Waves of Change with how popular Razor got.
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>>172257420
Solely out of how awful the previous run was. It'll drop hard. They always do.
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>>172257519
It's almost as if comics are a visual medium and posting an image of the page or panel on an imageboard is more effective than simply quoting dialogue out of context. Not to mention half the fun post-reboot is all the reaction faces.
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>>172237747
what'd nicole do to you, anon
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>>172257727
I'm telling ya senpai, the comics need an entirely new direction. What we have now just doesn't work. It's too bloated for its own good. I hope the license goes to IDW or Boom, and with it, we get a clean slate, a renumbering, and a new creative team that can work with what the games have provided
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>>172257519
Bunnie vs. Clove
Honey's introduction
Sally's outburst at Ellidy
Echo being cute
Eggman revealing he lied to Clove
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>>172232754
Button 2, every time.

If I pick button 1, there's no guarantee that the controls are what I personally deem best, and the rest of the game suffers. I think that SA2 had great controls but were very limited by the stage design. A similar situation would occur here.

The same could be said of button 3, where we could get a game with branching paths in levels and all sorts of secrets and rewards for exploring and figuring out your lines, but if it controls like 06, Generations, or Colors, then the game sucks outright.

It's far better to capitalize on what everyone agrees is a near-constant in the franchise: The music. Plus, it gets the added bonus of having a good story again.

All this coming from a gameplayfag, mind you
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>>172257519
Eggman explaining to Clove what he did to Cassia. Eggman introducing the collars that can paralyze the Egg Bosses, Sonic & Amy's interaction in 272, all of Champions, the Chaotix interaction in their Universe arc, Knuckles & Amy's moments in Shattered, Amy not being fooled by Naugus pretending to be Sonic, etc.
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>hating on the comic
>wanting Sonic to be bouncing around in Ronald McDonald land with no tension or lore
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>>172257843
Excuses, and art isn't reflective of the writing.

These 4channers are crazy.
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>>172257264
>I mean, how many comic quotes do you remember?
Several from I Kill Giants.
"Look out, he's got a gun!", "Truly, this is our darkest hour." and a few others from Hellboy.
"Is this a sex thing?" "Why would it be a sex thing?"

I can go on for a while, really.
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>>172257964
>>172258008
Well considering the amount of times you bring those moments up you'd have me fooled.
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>>172258009
Sonic has never been known for its lore. People play it to have fun and escape real life, let's be honest
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>>172257285
>people complain that 4 issues makes the story too rushed and each Master fight only lasts two pages
>people STILL complain when 3 is stretched to eight issues to fit in more plot
There's no pleasing people.
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>>172258073
Yeah man, comic book writing is all about vomiting out words, it has absolutely nothing to do with panel layout and general art direction.

Dipshit.
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>>172258009
>Someone suggested that short, simple stories might be better than long sagas.
>We need to exaggerate this into "NO CONTINUITY EVER"
Guys.
Take a deep breath.
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>>172257883
>gamesonlyfag doesn't think this will kill the book in record time
Oh not again.
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>>172258147
>Sonic has never been known for its lore

Oh please. Literally every Sonic fan from 2001-2011, if they were under 18, did nothing BUT discuss the lore. And even adults like me enjoy the type of adventure atmosphere Sonic has along with its likable characters.
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>>172258130
Every single one of those moments has been discussed & praised on here for a long while now. Just the last few threads, people mentioned Eggman lying to Clove, Amy not falling for Naugus' tricks, etc.
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>>172258312
>Thinking I'm gamesonlyfag
I'm just saying I think shorter contained game centric stories would probably be better quality wise. Renumber it and give it to a publisher that isn't fucking ARCHIE and it could make a decent amount.
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>>172237209
Where does a new Sonic Riders rank? Rush 3? Shadow 2?
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>>172258147
You're either shitposting, or underage. My bet is on both.
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>>172258432
Yeah, and Genesis of a Hero wasn't dull as dirt, right?
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>>172258182
>The Master fights were STILL four issues, and we got a long, drawn out conclusion on top.
>There's no pleasing some people >:^/
Fuck off with that shit.

There's plenty of solutions, not limited to but including NOT DOING EVERY ROBOT MASTER ONE BY ONE. Like God damn.
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>>172258253
Your response, it needs strawberries.
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>>172258302
The argument against long sagas is that Sonic can't be taken seriously, which is flimsier than the tinfoil around a baked potato.

I don't think arcs should be 3 fucking years long, but don't act like that wasn't going to be a one-time thing, or act like Sonic doesn't need worldbuilding or character development.
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>>172258564
They don't have to be game retellings. Again, short SOL stories with the game cast can be done. Fuck, something like the Sonic channel comics showed they have some appeal, you can do that. Or put them in crazy scenarios. Explore what ifs, fuck, the game cast is fuckhuge, you can surely do shit with it, especially when you don't have to care about continuity.
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>>172258312
It kept the book alive for four years in the 90's.

>>172258564
>Ian's shit at it so it can't be done!
wew
Even then, Megadrive was fun. That but with OCs and a wider range of stories might be a good direction.
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>>172258564
Genesis was far better, and that's still Ian.
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>>172258715
>or act like Sonic doesn't need worldbuilding or character development.

How about writing good stories or interesting scenarios?

Have you ever considered that rather than thinking about adding another paragraph to wikipedia?
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>>172258803
>That but with OCs and a wider range of stories might be a good direction.
Cast is big enough as it is, no thanks
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>>172246995
ACTUAL REPRESENTAION
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>>172258881
Did I miss the notion of middle ground being evil somehow? I'm pretty sure you can have both.
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>>172258796
There's just something about this Amy render that I really love.

>>172258881
Well to be fair, you could do both. And the comics were gonna do short fun stories with the characters, but now this current situation with Archie is happening.
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crucify me but I've been very engrossed in the rebooted comic during my read.

Sure the plot itself is a little slow, but the character interactions and characterization as a whole was really interesting (I liked Chip a lot more than in the game), and the villains like Cassia and Thunderbolt were neat to see and fun to read. I do think the pacing could be a lot faster and there should be more humorous moments (everyone seems to love Champions which is understandable because of how it was basically a gag arc that happened to tie into the plot) but I don't think Sonic having a serious story is the problem, and I like when it tackles more serious stories and fleshes out its world.
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>>172258715
>The argument against long sagas is that Sonic can't be taken seriously
The argument against it is that they've been unanimously bad.

Iron Dominion sucked. King Naugus and Mecha Sally sucked and went waaaaaaay too long. The Unleashed saga may as well have not been a thing, the good stories would have been fine without any of that shit.

We don't need continuity wank, and even Ian's pretty much acknowledged that. A good comic lives and dies by good storytelling and characters.

>Sonic doesn't need worldbuilding or character development.
Nobody said that.
Breathe anon. BREATHE.
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>>172259190
Tbh the longest an arc in general should be in a comic like this is 1 issue, maybe 2 at most. 3 if you really wanna stretch it
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>>172259086
>>172259024
It's fine to have minor details, small points of interest added in, but at the end of the day, you're writing a STORY.

And another thing, tone, if Judge Dredd can be very goofy but also very serious I can't imagine why Sonic can't be too.

In fact, how many of you read other comics?
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>>172258931
By OCs I meant the current cast.
You know, like the Egg Bosses.
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>>172259190
>Iron Dominion sucked.

No it didn't.

>King Naugus and Mecha Sally sucked and went waaaaaaay too long.

That's only because there was going to be a huge payoff at the end of it all, but then Penders happened. That's not Ian's fault.
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>>172258147
Which is why no one bought the comic for several years, amirite?
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>>172253984
>You will never go out drinking with Shadow
>You will never console him as he recounts all the death and destruction that was caused by him merely existing
>You will never go drunk driving through a mountain pass while blasting eurobeat and edgy rock music together
Feels bad man
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>>172259296
lol
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>>172259336
Again, nah. Game cast is big enough for all the roles you need. If not, you can just bring characters back, and if that doesn't work, then fine, but they can't stick around too long
>>172259357
It was still too long. Mecha Sally would end at 275. That is too fucking long. KN and Mecha Sally combined should maybe be 10 issues, not 40-50
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TATS
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>>172259114
This. I prefer the reboot much, much more.

>>172259325
>if Judge Dredd can be very goofy but also very serious I can't imagine why Sonic can't be too.

Who said it can't be? Hell, the current comics do have a mix of goofy & serious.
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>>172259325
Ream 'em? I draw comics.

Ian's love of longterm storytelling negatively affects the book and he doesn't utilize his cast well. Otherwise the book's fine.
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>>172259480
>it's too long
>because I said so
>I'll give you no reasons beside that
>but it's the truth
>because I and I alone am sole supreme arbiter of quality
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>>172259296
You want us to go back to the days of issues #1-25? Where Sonic makes bad puns and it's a monster-of-the-week comedy?

Fuck that.
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>>172259357
>No it didn't.
Main arc was pretty shit imo.
JttE was much better.
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>>172259426
Such a compelling argument anon. Really made some fine points
>>172259325
>In fact, how many of you read other comics?
I doubt anyone here does. That's why they like these comics. They just don't know better
>>172259524
Then he should shorten the story
>>172259586
Have you ever read other comics? Stories get tiring if they go on for more than 4 to 5 issues. The Rebirth idea of each opening arc being 6 issues was fucking awful. 50 issues of "SALLY IS A ROBOT" is too fucking long
>>172259624
Sure, why not? It'd be more enjoyable. The games are that anyways
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>>172257383
This
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>>172259490
I have something even better
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>>172259721
>Such a compelling argument anon. Really made some fine points
Just like you, eh?
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>>172259721
>Sure, why not? It'd be more enjoyable. The games are that anyways

And the games suck. Which is why the comics don't do that.
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>>172259721
>Then he should shorten the story
Forgot to add, and cut down the cast to like a third of what it is now
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>>172259863
kek

Anyways, this argument is being drawn out much longer than it should be, so can we please drop it?
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>>172258009
>Ronald McDonald land
>No tension or lore
Clearly you don't remember those old VHS tapes
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>>172259721
>Stories get tiring if they go on for more than 4 to 5 issues.
In your opinion.

>50 issues of "SALLY IS A ROBOT" is too fucking long
Wow, if only other things were going on besides that. Yeah, if only. Totally would've made things better. Yep, if only they had done other self-contained stories with the overarching plot being in the background. That would've been totally rad.

Your problem is that you have the attention span of a Ritalin-addicted pre-schooler.
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>>172259994
>If I want stories that don't take forever to end I have ADD
Have you read any other comics?
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>>172259325
>In fact, how many of you read other comics?

I've read Ultimate Spider Man all the way up to Peter's death. And I've just finished reading Batman up to New52.

Knightfall is comparably long to even the kind of shit Ian does, and it's one of the greatest comic stories ever.
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>>172259190
>Nobody said that.

>>172256494
>>172256740
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>>172259190
Mecha Sally/King Naugus has the fact that it didn't get an ending weakening your argument.
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The real problem is the Freedom fighters are nowhere near as interesting or likable or as powerful as the game characters. It's boring, and they eat up most of the screen time
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>>172258803
>Even then, Megadrive was fun.

Yet it's stellar sales dropped off to standard numbers after the first issue. I wonder why?
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>>172259994
>Wow, if only other things were going on besides that.
I agree.
Too bad fucking nothing interesting happened between 231 and 247 aside from Twan blowing up and Bunnie leaving.
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>>172259357
>Iron Dominion sucked.

>No it didn't.

Well, there's an argument.

>>172259496
>The current comics do have mix of goofy & serious.

I honestly never see that, I mean, other than say the bits on Breezie TV it's pretty subdued. I don't know, when I think of Dredd and all the wacky shit that happens in that book, robo-vampires, McDonald's vs. Burger King, a Patton/General MacArthur robot-head, super intelligent chimps, the things like the sand dollars and the floating car just seem passe. I'm probably biased because I love Dredd, but when I think 'wacky' for Sonic, I'd think of something like the Felix the Cat sort of thing Milton Knight did or the early Gallagher issues. I think Dredd proves you can have very silly stuff but serious stuff working in tandem.
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>>172260084
Yes. And even if I hadn't, why should one comic be constrained by retarded industry standards in an industry full of retarded standards?
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>>172260258
This. And their roles are filled by game characters. Except for Nicole, but she's still shit
>Sticks is the tomboy
>Amy is the strong girl
>Tails is the mechanic
>Knuckles is the rival
The FFs don't need to exist. Unless you turn them into joke characters. That could work
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>>172260258
If SEGA would get their heads out of their asses and be just a little more progressive, they'd let Ian develop the game characters. But he's not allowed to.
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>>172259959
That shit was TENSE.
LIKE DAMN SON.
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>>172260451
Hello, shitposter-kun.
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>>172259721
>The Rebirth idea of each opening arc being 6 issues was fucking awful.
Didn't another anon say that Rebirth has caused the biggest jump in sales since forever?
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>>172260360
Your definition of "goofy" sounds ridiculously out of place in modern Sonic. If anything it sounds more life Adventu-
>Milton Knight
Ah, that's what it is. You're an AOSTHfag. No wonder you hate the comic.
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This isn't what I expected upon typing "maybe the comics aren't very good."
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>>172260360
Well, by "goofy," I pretty much mean that it's still has a good amount of light hearted moments.

>>172260556
Pls don't respond to him.

>>172260748
You really didn't expect heavy amounts of shitposting by people who don't really give a fuck about the comic?
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>>172260556
Is shitposter-kun just someone you don't agree with?

Anyways, I guess I should elaborate on that point
>Sally is the bratty princess who leads the FFs but can't lead
>Antoine is a self proclaimed brave swordsman who is a complete coward who can't even fight
>Bunnie is just an idiot who taped metal to her body and called herself a cyborg
>Rotor is a mechanic who can't build shit
They try to take on Eggman but can barely beat a single badnik.
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>>172260748
>This isn't what I expected upon typing "maybe the comics aren't very good."
Sure, the isn't. Sure.
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>>172260668
Literally pandering.
The writing quality has nothing to do with the sales.

>>172260698
>Liking Milton Knight's design work or thinking the series should be weirder means you hate the comic.

Not even them, but damn dude. Come on.
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>>172260849
OH, and Nicole' just a phone that Sally pretends is a supercomputer
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>>172260849
>>172261004
>This guy AGAIN
We get it. You don't like the Freedom Fighters. Spamming this joke idea whenever someone talks about the comic is isn't going to make people support it or anything.
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>>172259721
>stories get tiring after more than 4-5 issues
Yeah, nah. I miss the days of long, arc-spanning setups and payoffs. They feel much more satisfying when they reach their resolution.
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>>172260451
>Knuckles

So you just want him to be Sonic's buttbuddy like in the games?
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>>172260991
Considering we're on 4chan, I'm going to assume that "pandering" means "a bunch of people like this thing so they're appealing to those other people but I don't and I'm the greatest judge of quality in the entire world"
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>>172260849
No, shitposter-kun is you. The same autist that keeps spewing the same garbage thread after thread for (You)s. Kys
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>>172260698
Well as Milton said, Sonic is a very cartoonish character in design. As a kids comic, it would make sense for it to have a greater sense of levity, and as I pointed out with Dredd, I think it's more than possible to do both silly and serious simultaneously.

Again, to quote Milton, people have this tendency to think 'darker/serious=better'. I just want a funnier comic.
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>>172260451
Fuck off, shitposter.
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>>172260748
Yeah right.
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>>172261345
Are you really so dense you don't think more than one person dislikes the freedom fighters?
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>>172260849
Check, check, and check. All "ideas" promoted by the recurring shitposter. Leave anytime.
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>>172261429
He's a fanboy, of course he is
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>>172261429
No but I'm not gullible enough to think the retard that says the same shit every time isn't a fucking shitposter.
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>>172260849
You forgot to mention that Bunnie and Antoine aren't together.
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>>172261594
I mean, that would be a given since Sonic and romance do not work
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So I just got generations and I'm wondering aside from unleashed project what are the most worth while mods (level and character mods in particular)
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>>172261836
I've heard great things about the Blaze in Generations mod, so you could try that.
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>>172261319
No, it means that it's surface level key jingling, you condescending goof.

The entire event is "Hey, you miss the old continuity? IT NEVER LEFT! ALL YOUR OLD PALS ARE BACK JUST LIKE YOU REMEMBER 'EM!" Some books are well written, others aren't. The sales have no bearing on writing quality and are up across the board because the whole thing is an attempt to appease as many old fans as possible in broad strokes and concepts instead of just hiring better writers.
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>>172261836
Blaze at the very least. I think Unleashed project is dead, unfortunately.
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>>172261906
I think Sonic could use a comic Rebirth of its own
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>>172261836
I like Silver's mod. Makes you fight shadow mephelis and crystal mepehilis. Plus like the ui change
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Wanna draw a Sonic girl, if you have a non-lewd request throw it at me.
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>>172261319
No, I love my DC something fierce, but pandering is the right word here. I like it, but it's absolutely pandering.
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>>172262117
Draw an Amy
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>>172262117
Draw Sally and Bunnie in karate gi.
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>>172262117
Thunderbolt self conscious about her weight.
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>>172261346
>As a kids comic,

There's your problem. SEGA has made an obvious push towards adult gamers for Sonic starting in 2015. You know why? Because Sonic's biggest audience, the ones who grew up with the games, are in the 18-26 age range.

That extends to the comics. There's a sizable child audience, but as a whole, there are actually a shitton of older fans reading it. And we appreciate depth and levity to our stories.

Also, pic related.
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>>172261906
>>172262184
See, the catch is that comics pander by nature, so the only difference is who they're pandering to.
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>>172261836
There's a few 06 mods if you want to try them out.

In terms of character mods, it comes down to just who you want to play as, it's basically a model swap a lot of the time. I think Blaze and Metal Sonic have some slight physics differences.

Most of the game cast has a mod for Generations and few from the comics have some too (pre-reboot Sally, Scourge, Shard, Eclipse, and probably more)
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>>172205186
Wow that is a lot of Amy.
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>>172261836
All of the level mods other than Unleashed Project are half-assed, either because of the creator or simply because the assets aren't available to do an accurate recreation.

Blaze is the only character mod I know of that isn't just a simple visual swap, as it changes her physics to be similar to her playable appearances. Jet Set Sonic combined with the Cell Shading mod is also neat as a novelty.
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>>172262334
there's an idea
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>>172262370
I hate to say it but he really, really is.
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>>172262487
Isn't it great? I actually like that pic.
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>>172262117
Draw a R63 Sonic.
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>>172262687
The comics need a new writer honestly. Take what he put in, throw it out, and start fresh
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>>172262334
I was surprised there wasn't a geyser of fat/inflation art of this character, but then I remembered nobody reads these comics.
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>>172262370
> and levity

Don't know why the fuck I typed that.
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>>172237209
I would unironically play a Sonic Musou. Plus it would be perfect fanservice for the fans who want all of Sonic's Friend's to be playable.
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Remember to report and ignore.
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>>172262117
Relic geeking out over something old.
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>>172262825
No. Quit shitting up the thread with your awful opinions.
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>>172262825
Bye bye what little sales you had.
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>>172263058
Quit responding to him.

>>172262196
Meant to say: Draw a flustered Amy.
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>>172259086
I think it's because her quills looks more bobcut than normal
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>>172261836
Here's something to help you out a bit, a big list of mods gathered with links. Not everything is there, but it's still useful.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=159333239
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I just came across those double nigger vids for the first time in forever, had me laughing like an autist.

Good times.
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>>172263508
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I don't think Ian is the greatest writer in the world, but I also don't want him replaced, at least not as head writer, because I understand that what he brings to the table is immensely valuable to a comic like Sonic. He knows almost everything there is to know about the franchise, and he gets that it can and should be an all-ages action-adventure series that can be serious with some levity. He is honestly responsible for a lot of the best writing in the franchise, including games/cartoons/anime/etc, which really isn't a high bar at all but it's something. Simply put, if the comic got a new lead writer, especially if the comic was still with Archie because you know they'll hire the cheapest motherfucker they can get away with hiring, there's no guarantee that writer will know a tenth of the shit Ian does, or be a tonally accurate.

I don't think Ian is in any way one of the best writers in the world and he could definitely use a good editor (Ian under Pellerito has been the best period of his run), but he is one of the best Sonic writers in the world, which is what the comic needs.
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>>172263508
Thanks for making me look them up again. Shame that CommanderDouche is such an opinionated faggot.
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>>172257754
Eggman shoukd make a wasp badnik.
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>>172263657
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>>172263648
Is he really? How so?
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>>172263657
The fuck do you think Buzzbombers are?
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>>172263610
I would argue he's the only good Sonic writer in the world.

If the comic got a new writer, it would be another Pontac & Graff, where there is no plot and the comic goes full retard unfunny comedy.

Really it's just the editor that's the issue. Ian is like Tim Burton where he can be brilliant, but only when kept on a leash.
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>>172263648
>>172263508
Where do you find these videos?
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>>172263657
>go to look up the yellow jacket enemies from Sonic 2
>find this
Uuuh
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>>172263823
>>172263963
>Beebots
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>>172263925
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1rT6Vi5Ln4
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>>172263963
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>>172264053
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>>172264095
>Two Weiners
Oh man, the memories
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>>172264137
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>>172263904
I would say that Aleah Baker is pretty good. She does characters better than IAn, but is worse at plotting. Teaming them up generally results in both of their best stories.

Also there is a VERY strong case to be made for Shiro Maekawa, who wrote Black Knight and Secret Rings. Yes, he wrote 06 too, but 06 has some really strong story elements, just executed poorly. Black Knight and Secret Rings are loved just for their stories and music, and Maekawa is to thank for the former. I see a lot of fans hold him up a the gold standard when it comes to Sonic

Also, while he hasn't done Sonic, I would gladly take Al Ewing on Sonic in a heartbeat
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>>172264216
I honestly liked 06's vibes. One of the reasons I'm looking forward to Forces is that it very well may have some similar elements of, 'oh damn, shit is actually about to go down and we gotta hustle.' Know what I mean?
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>>172264216
The problem for me is that he has some kind of fetish for Sonic rescuing princesses.
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>>172262196
Sorry dude, I started before I refresh'd and saw the 'flustered' part. I'll tackle flustered Amy a bit later.
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>>172264216
I'd be down for Black Knight's writer again. It hit that sweet spot of tone for the series.
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>>172264615
Thank you. Very cute Amy, too!
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>>172262117
Rouge picking out swimwear.
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>>172264601
True, but honestly Elise, Shahra, and Merlina are all different enough where it never feels repetitive. And each game has genuinely great moments, especially Black Knight, which had a perfect Sonic characterization. Also he did an amazing Shadow in 06
>>172264695
I know, right? It had some serious moments, but also had some pretty funny ones too, as did Secret Rings.
Erazor Djinn is a better Mephiles
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>>172264468
I get what you mean. It's the same kind of thing that I got from the comic at points, and those are my favorite parts (Outside of the character-centric stuff)
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>>172262117
Sticks eating a bone in a trash can
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>>172264843
>>172264216
Black Knight's plot was ok, but Secret Rings? The one where the main villain makes Sonic hunt down the seven rings for him, and then tries to kill him when he gets close to one? The one where Sonic wished for a mountain of handkerchiefs in what is probably the most groan-inducing scene in the entire franchise?

And Sonic 06, where the time travel is inconsistent as fuck and nobody, including Mephiles realizes they can time travel at will?

Maekawa expects suspension of disbelief where it's utterly impossible. I wouldn't call him a good writer.
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>>172265332
This. Tbh people give games like Colors and Lost World shit, but Colors is far fucking better than any of those games when it comes to plot, except maybe Black Knight (Lost World is fucking terribad though jesus christ what the hell)
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>>172265332
>The one where Sonic wished for a mountain of handkerchiefs in what is probably the most groan-inducing scene in the entire franchise?
I seriously have no idea what peoples' problems are with that scene, other than they saw it without context on YouTube.
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>>172265667
Out of context or not, it's still completely OOC for Sonic to be that sappy.
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>>172264615
nice pic
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>>172265876
For you.
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>>172265995
I don't think you know what OOC means. That means it goes against everything that makes Sonic likable. He has never, ever, acted like he came out of a cheesy romance novel.
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>>172266143
>That means it goes against everything that makes Sonic likable
Not only are you wrong about what OoC means, you're wrong in general.
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>>172265876
>>172266143
One scene where he comforts a crying friend in a way that calls back to the start of the game does not kill his personality. If anything, having a bit of depth makes him more likeable. There's nothing keeping him from going back to wisecracking after that one scene.
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>>172262251
Pen died as I did Sally so I had to swap to a shittier one, hence the smudging. Still, I think the smudges and scratchy look kinda works here. Kinda Street Fighter IV-ish. First time I ever drew reboot Sally so this was fun. Bunnie is on the to do list, ideally when I can find a better pen.
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>>172266548
That's unfortunate but thanks either way.
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>>172266442
Anon it's not what he did, it's what he said.

>"I wish for a mountain of handkerchiefs. Just let yourself cry, as much as you need to, and this will help you through it."

That's a line I'd expect from a Final Fantasy character. If Shahra were crying and Sonic had made that his third wish, but you don't actually hear him say it, and all you see is a knowing smile and maybe a laugh between them, THAT'S something Sonic would do. Not say a cheesy line like that while looking into the sky like he said something really profound.
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>>172241596
>>172241625
>0092567102266
What the fuck is this?
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>>172266945
Yes, and? None of that goes against my point. I was a grand total of one scene where he tells a friend, who at that point had just come back to life after betraying him and potentially ending his life, to just take it easy. It was fine. Context is important. Stop being Pontaff-tier "Sonic must say stupid one-liners at all times"
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>>172266945
How is this out of character? He is essentially telling her to handle it how he does. Let it out all and then move forward.
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>>172241596
Amy got a large chest
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>>172267147
>Stop being Pontaff-tier "Sonic must say stupid one-liners at all times"

I'm not. But I'm not "Sonic must say rejected Kingdom Hearts dialogue" either. Subtlety is everything.
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>>172267716
Subtlety to the point where it conveys very little is pointless.
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>>172267123
>>172241596
>>172241625

>0092567102266

I got
>092567102266
with my barcode scanner


Can we all talk about the significance of this number?

It matches the ISBN of a 2010 issue of People magazine: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/People-Style-Watch-May-2010-JESSICA-SIMPSON/401240542506


Is this one of Aaron's cryptic hints? or did someone just generate a random barcode?
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>>172268017
There are way too many hot girls in this franchise
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itty-bitty-kitty....
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>>172262718
This was way more fun than I thought it would be.
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>>172268206
All I can think of is voicing a new character. We're probably just being rused.
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>>172268480
>>172268206

>New character voices by Jessica simpson confirmed
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>>172268401
Why does she look like a balloon animal?
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>>172268401
>detailed clothing
>with Heroes-tier fur
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>>172268402
proceed
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>>172268784
probably the program used to render it.
>>172268807
the lighting is a bit heavy.
Maybe need another, softer texture for the fur.
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>>172267716
>Subtlety is everything.
Says the guy who completely let all the subtlety of that scene completely pass over his head.
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>>172268401
what does Blaze look like with her hair down?
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>we'll never officially see Blaze with her hair down
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>>172222602
Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to the furry convention tomorrow
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>>172269694
I forgot this existed

I wish I could forget again
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>>172269694
Oh...Jaleel White..you were used in the worst way possible..
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>>172269694
You didn't warn me about the immediate blood vomiting is causes.
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>>172269694
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>>172269694
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>>172269661
why so curious, anon?

>me married.
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>>172269694
"Julian kintobor... he is no more. I am Robotnik"
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>>172269694
>>172269920
>>172270230
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>>172270230
Every scene this guy was in was fantastic.
Almost makes up for the rest of it... almost
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>>172268206
Do the cellphone barcode readers read the separate section from the right?
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>>172269184
;_;
is there no fanart?

>>172270230
that bit was pretty good. The rest was kinda meh. Too much hype for a fan project i think. Good sfx on Gamma though.
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>>172270306
Poor knuckles. Did you get zapped?
Wana backscratch?
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>>172269661
>about to sleep
>see this
Thanks for the reminder, asshole
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>>172270513
Some parts of it clearly had better production than others. Looks like they put a lot of effort into the robotnik stuff and then as time moves on and the funds dried out they just rushed the rest.
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>>172270520
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>>172270513
"Officially", anon. There's plenty of fanart.
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>>172270648
Don't worry, he gets plenty of opportunities to satisfy all 4 heads all the time.
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>>172270693
das cute.
got any more?
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>>172270925
Digging around, I actually don't have a lot of hair-down Blaze. This needs to be corrected.
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>>172272407
Enjoy your ban.
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>>172272424
>she will never be real
Well, I guess that's what dreams are for
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>>172272407
>l-lewd!
Blaze got a hot-bod.
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>>172272407
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>>172272407
Bye anon
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>>172272407
I see a problem here.
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>>172272407
This sure is one wierd headcanon
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>>172272613
>search your feelings, anon, you know it to be true
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>>172272407
>nipple

Wave goodbye to anon, everybody!

>>172272613
Judging by how much he's drawn Amy & Sonic fucking, I can believe it.
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>>172272609
cute.
....beautiful pic, actually.
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>>172272694
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>>172272794
That's some pretty big hair you got there, Sal
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What if /sthg/
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>>172273830
was a good place to discuss Sonic?
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>>172273915
hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaahdajkbhfjkealbaghgagaahahahahahahahaahaha
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>>172273830
Never existed?
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>>172273961
Porn you say?
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>>172273830
Could finally archive in peace.
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>>172267465
It's a standard size really.
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I'd hedge that hog
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Ever have a friend that, like, is your best friend, like a sibling, they've been there for you at your darkest times, and stuff like that, but they just almost never see or respond to your texts or messages? Like, as if they rarely ever use their phone and stuff?

Yeah, that's Sonic.
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>>172273781
I didn't catch the image, but this honestly has me intrigued now. Any idea where I can find the image that was removed?
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>>172274207
it's lovely.
Amy pretty curvy for her age though.
Not complaining.

>>172274414
ink bunny
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>>172274408
I could totally see Sonic going on a world adventure or some shit and not telling anyone, so nobody knows where he is for years on end, and then he comes back like it's nothing
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>>172272794
What's the plug all about?
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>>172272613
>Cream
What the fuck
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>>172274506
Wasn't that in like in Chronicles where Sonic was gone for a year or so?
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>>172274506
Hell, it's often implied that he does just that. Why do you think "Long time, no see" was a thing?
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>>172274636
see >>172272694
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>>172274712
Thank you for being the 667th post.
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>>172274649
Yes, but Sega would rather re-release 06 than talk about Chronicles.
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>>172274636
>Cream is higher than Blaze
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>>172274649
adorable.
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>669
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>>172257754
>that fucking cat mouth
Every time
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>>172274837
meant to reply to >>172274753
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From personal experience, I know how Tails feels whenever Sonic goes on a world adventure alone and doesn't answer his communication device or respond to messages until a long time later.
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>>172247730
>Reviews
>666
Nobody else review it, it's too perfect
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>>172243096
If Blaze didn't exist, I'd agree
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>>172275193
Too late.
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>>172273830
hated Eggman?
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>>172275126
Relationships getting you down anon?
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>>172275487
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>>172275193
It has Iblis inside of it!
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Do you think Knuckes and the Master Emerald have a loving relationship?
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>>172276002
Sauce? Also apparently there exists Sonic bath bombs...
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>>172276002
wew

>>172276092
Yes.
Yes I do.
....now.

>>172276101
turns your bathwater dark and blue.
and glittery.
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>>172275495
No, I'm not in any "relationship". If it was anything like that, I would have used Amy instead of Tails,

It's just, one of my best friends, a guy I have listed as my brother on Facebook and who has always been there to help me in my darkest times, the guy who is really like the Sonic to my Tails, is the one guy out of my group of best friends who just never responds to any message I send him. I barely see him anyway since he's usually always busy or just not around, but the fact that online communication is so agonizingly slow and complicated just makes it 10 times worse. And, like, even when he tells me he'll talk to me about whatever we need to talk about at a specific time later on, when that time comes, it never happens.

He lives just a few houses down from me, yet I only get to talk to him, let alone see him face to face, once in a blue moon.
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>>172274649
Cute Amy!
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>>172276092
Tikal and Chaos are in it, so it'd be a heck of a relationship.
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>>172276185
You should tell him how you feel, Sparky.
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>>172276256
Tikal and Chaos haven't been inside the Master Emerald since Adventure. Well, Chaos at least. Tikal may still 'live' inside it because her soul is linked to it.
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>>172276342
...what? ...What exactly are you talking about...?
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>>172274498
In my headcanon her curvyness makes perfect sense based on her age
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>>172276682
In my headcanon Sonic's gay
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>>172276742
Anon, that's not headcanon.
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>>172276742
In my headcanon Sonic is mgtow.
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>>172276682
it's about time we got some official Bikini artwork/renders of Amy and the other girls from SEGA.
After all, summers'a comin'.
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>>172276864
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>>172276374
Actually, do we know where Tikal is?
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>>172276985
Heaven.
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>>172275495
>those thighs.
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>>172276742
In my headcanon sonic goes both ways. Someone like him would be free as the wind.
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>>172276973
>towel covering lower-back area
really cute, but it's not enough.
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>>172276742
That's gay
>>172277239
That's also gay but not as gay
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>>172277239
I can actually easily see sonic being gay
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>>172276101
Shit dude I may buy some.
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>>172277497
Eyeball is too big. Ruins the cute.

Reminder that hedgies look best when the eyeball is as separated as possible
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>>172277473
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>>172277396
Somehow I imagine Rouge as a viable character to say this line
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>>172277497
>"Wouldn't mind painting myself blue for you..."
I get it.
>>
Alright /sthg/, think of a memorable movie line/quote. Now choose which Sonic character is most likely to say that line.
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>>172277624
kek
goddamn i love futurama quotes
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>>172277931
>"People ask the question... what's a RocknRolla? And I tell 'em - it's not about drums, drugs, and hospital drips, oh no. There's more there than that, my friend. We all like a bit of the good life - some the money, some the drugs, others the sex game, the glamour, or the fame. But a RocknRolla, oh, he's different. Why? Because a real RocknRolla... wants the fucking lot."

- Omega
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>>172277931
>27, My girlfriend's sucked 27 dicks
>In a row?
-tails to sonic.
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>>172277931
>"no, no, this suckers electrical, but i need a nuclear reaction to generate the 1.21 jigowatts of electricity i need."

- Tails
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>>172277931
>I have the high ground!

- Maria
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>>172277608
aaannd I just bought one.
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>>172278061
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ij-R72eChQ
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>>172277931
>"He didn't fly so good!"

- Robotnik to Sonic in SA2
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>>172277931
>"Oh man I shot Marvin in the face..."

- G.U.N Soldier
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>>172278270
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>>172278495
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>>172278495
>"Oh man I shot Maria in the face..."
Fixed.
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>>172278256
Tell us how it feels to bathe fast anon
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>>172278215
I don;t know why this makes me laugh so hard, just imagining some non-Aids infected girl in space say this to someone.
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>>172278629
I will post when I get it. Dont worry. i'll let you know if it's worth it. It cost me 12$
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>>172278602
kek
>>172277931
>"If you let my daughter go now, that'll be the end of it. I will not look for you, I will not pursue you. But if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will kill you"

- Vanilla
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All's well that ends well
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>>172279105
It's funny cause it's the other way around.

>>172279139
Sonic Adventure, a game where no one won!
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>>172278953
>$12
For one? Shit anon, that thing better make your molecules accelerate or something
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>>172279301
It's a bit pricey.. but it's coming from japan so i figured it would be up sold a bit. Considering Lush ( popular bath bomb company) sells them for like 7-9$ it's not that bad.
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>>172277931
>"I hate that hedgehog"

- Dr. Evil
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>>172279105
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>>172279301
>My name is (Anonymous) and I am th FASTEST Thing Alive
>One night I was struck by lightning while bathing in Sonic Bath Bombs, and I woke up 9 months later with super speed
>To the outside world, I'm an ordinary /sthg/ anon, but secretly, I fight crime as
>Sonic Man
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So how long have you been a fan of Sonic, /sthg/?
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>>172277931
>"I love dogs!"

-Knuckles the Echidna
>>
EGG FLEET, FLIES BY
DOCTOR ROBOTNIK
TOO FAT FOR THE AIRPLANE RIDE
DOCTOR ROBOTNIK
EGG-MAN
HE CAN'T REALLY MOVE
EGG-MAN
HE'S GOT YOUR WAIFU'S NUDES
EGG-MAN
HE'S THE FASTEST THING AL-I-EEE-VE
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>>172279885
Some 6 years.
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>>172280000
Last line is supposed to be "fattest", but I'll take the quads either way
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>>172279885
One of my earliest memories was playing Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles.

Never got past the first Zone in either.
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>>172279885
For almost 2 decades.
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>>172278204
>"They wanted me to build them a bomb, so I took their plutonium and, in turn, gave them a shoddy bomb casing full of used pinball machine parts."
- Eggman
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>>172279885
I am literally this image.
Since I was 3
I am now 24
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>>172277621
>Reminder that hedgies look best when the eyeball is as separated as possible
Fuck that.
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>>172280239
No, fuck you
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Reminder that all hogs having spindash is canon
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So what should the next thread edition be?
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>>172279885
Since 2000.
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>>172279858
If I become a Sonic themed super hero because of the bath bomb. I will find the anon who posted the Sonic bath bomb and kiss them
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>>172279885
2002 with S&K on PC
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>>172280503
>those inks
Damn I miss the Herms and Yardley! combo
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>>172280391
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>>172280527
Cooler than Sonic Edition

Use this
>>172270908
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>>172280503
I mean yeah. Ever play Sonic Advance?

It doesn't make sense for Tails though. There's no reason why he should spindash at all.
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>>172280740
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>172280527
sketch edition
get some kick ass sketches in that shit.
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>>172279885
Since SatAM first aired.
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>>172280503
Is it just my phone or is Sonic Dash really laggy at times?
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>>172280891
A whole thread dedicated to me?! I-i'm flattered!
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>>172279885
1999 when I played Sonic ____1____
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>>172280908
Sonic Dash is kinda glitchy.
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>>172280838
>It doesn't make sense for the Sidekick to share the hero's abilities.
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>>172280838
It also doesn't make sense for his Tails to not spin with the rest of him.

Imagine how painful that is.
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>>172280891
>>172280527
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>>172279885
For as long as I can remember.
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>>172281032
Yeah it shuts off every so often and it over heats my phone.
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>Over 700 posts in under 200 images
Impressive.
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>>172281208
>shut off every so often
That's normal.
>over heats my phone
That's not.

>>172281280
It's the first in a while. Past few threads soared through that limit.
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>>172280891
That's a great sketch
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>>172281072
And much like it doesn't make sense for Robin to be able to hide in the shadows, it doesn't make sense for Tails to spindash like he has spines.

If he traded the spindash for the ability to fly he wouldn't be better than Sonic in every conceivable way.

>>172281073
Yeah but Tails is a freak, so I can suspend my disbelief. Also his tails literally move up and down across his butt, they don't sprout from one spot.

>>172281280
Most of it was spent anti-Ian Flynn shitposting though. Was it worth it?
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>>172280527
Something that triggers people here, like this edition did.
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>>172280527
Alternatively, or for edition after next one, coffee edition.
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>>172281361
Yeah it happens with Dash 2 and it did with Runners.
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>>172279885
At least 15 years.
I found a Sonic 3 & Knuckles Computer disc randomly in a clothing store and the rest is history.
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>>172281382
>Was it worth it?
I don't it would bother him. It's not like he comes here anymore.
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>>172280962
Fuck, I knew this would happen...
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>>172279885
About 16 years.
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>>172280391
I was avoiding bringing this back up for the last 20 or so threads but YOU'VE FORCED MY HAND.
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>>172282309

NEW
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>>172277931
"You stay, I go.

Superman..."
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>>172281382
If Sonic = Flash, Tails = Kid Flash. If Sonic = Batman, Tails = Robin. Tails is a Sidekick similar to them, he is SUPPOSED to have all the same abilities as Sonic. He was created with the intention of having all of the same abilities as Sonic.
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>>172282594
Nice job. was this for a class or something?
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>>172284861
No, I'm the fag posting sketches and I found that on someone's twitter. There's even Japanese in it, anon!
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