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Ledgebringer edition

Last Round: >>172107060

NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
>http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn (embed)

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK (embed)

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
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I wish Kensei had Wardens crushing top light

I would never play anything but Kensei ever again
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I'm gay
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>>172180241
he DOES
dashing GB into an overhead > side heavy off of that, you have the same amount of damage dealt
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>>172180241
That'd turn them into ken & ryu
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Just finished this one
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What is the most cancerous Feat and why is it Polished Blade.
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>>172180376
Its not as satisfying

I just want instant damage with Kensei yelling something in Japanese like the Warden does
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>>172180052
Is it worth reinstalling yet?
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>>172180532
It's still the same game, anon.
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>>172180445
I don't see how thats a bad thing desu
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>>172180487
Pretty sure Unblockable is better.
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M U S C L E
G I R L S
F O R E V E R
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>meet low level law with viking emblem, happen to be playing law as well
>types perfectly and says he's coming from warlord hopes to learn some things
>oblige and start giving tips
>round 3 says his wife called and to chill a second
>shortly after leaves without a word
Hope nothing happened
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>>172180853
He just had to go smash the bussy, it's okay anon
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>>172180726
What if conq had the unblockable feat?

Oh man that would be hilarious.
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>>172180939
>says the warden
>after having fallen for her plot & slaughtered their peaceful northern neighbor for NO REASON
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>>172181773
And yet would also fit in with his theme..
Half his attacks are already unblockable, this would just give him a consistency button.
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>>172181864
>no reason
>vikings raid the knights YEARLY
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>>172181864
>peaceful
>no reason
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>>172180939
There is truth in this image

t. viking player
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>>172181864
The Warden didn't fall for anything: they knew exactly what was going on. They just had taken an oath to serve Apollyon, and had to see the campaign through to completion.
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>>172182036
(There hadn't been a raid in years, Apollyon was recounting her youth)
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>>172182289
Come the fuck on dude the second Knight mission is taking back a castle CURRENTLY SEIGED by vikings.
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>>172182101
>they knew what was going on
>WHAT ARE WE DOING
>WHY ARE WE HERE
>I NEED ANSWERS APOLLYON
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>>172182427
>the mission where you go get answers is like mission 3
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>>172182492
>shut up and do as I say
>o-ok apollyon, right away
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>>172182562
It was more like
>MUH OATH
But yeah, that ones valid.
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Conq's indicator flickering glitch wasnt fixed, just met a guy doing that shit all over.
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>>172182861
Just like how PK can still whiff her first Light to basically confirm the second
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>Playing elimination
>Get matched against an entire team of 108s
>I'm the only 108 on my team, and only one person out of the other three is even rep 1 yet
>Round one we win, pleasantly surprised my team could hold their own
>We lost round two
>FAGGOT HAS LEFT THE GAME
>MY WIN LOSS RATIO IS MY LIFE HAS LOST THE GAME
>We're now two players down and have no hope of winning because bots are piss easy in elimination
FIX THE GODDAMN CONNECTIONS SO QUITTERS GET PUNISHED ALREADY
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no memes
no updates
final destination
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>>172183675
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>nearly Rep 2 as Berseker
>have not gotten any chest piece except the default look
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>>172183903
You're not missing much my guy
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>>172183675
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>>172180456
>suck at drawing
>want to be good
How did you even learn/practice? My fundamentals on paper are not great and I'm still not used to tablets
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They broke my game with the connectivity patch. Went from an 80 percent duel/brawl win rate to suddenly losing games left and right because it gave me a delay, and make enemies warp around and attack through my blocks. Frustrating because they haven't even responded to my support ticket or anywhere else afer a week. Can I get a fucking refund or something?
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>elimination for the daily
>people get mad at you for doing literally anything but tournament style 1v1
>they bitch about feats
>they bitch about revenge
>they bitch about gearscore
>they bitch if you don't want spend 30 minutes fighting a fucking turtle when you could help your team kill anyone else

These honorfags are like Dark Souls honorfags on steroids.
Its also even funnier when they to be scumbags back at you but you know how to deal with it.
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>>172184309
If you run off from the initial 1v1 you're cancer, otherwise just type ":(" every time someone whines
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>>172182920
Thats not the same lvl of bullshit honestly.
But yeah, that kind of shit must be gone, i can deal with every single balance issue in the game, but that shit with flickers, unlock-camera exploits with whiffs must be gone.
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>playing dom
>surrounded, try to zone
>people keep grabbing me mid zone attack
Im not even fucking surprised at this game anymore. I wouldnt be surprised if a PK just turned into Godzilla, just another stupid thing that happens in this fuck of a gaem
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>>172184117
Look at references for things. Draw said things.
References don't have to be photos: you can reference someone else's drawing and try to draw it.

These are called studies.
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>>172184483
Should zones make you ungrab-able?
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>>172184309
Bitching about feats and revenge is justified in most situations though

Like there are some feats that are fine, but most of them shouldn't exist

And revenge is fine when you're getting ganked, but it should not be possible to get revenge in a 1v1 situation
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>>172184423
>If you run off from the initial 1v1 you're cancer
I usually don't because I enjoying styling on people, but I really don't get the hate for this.

If the guy just wants to turtle, why waste your time there, especially if it always ends up with you being last alive? Gives you a better chance than you had.
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>>172184641
its a fucking attack, so yeah
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>>172184721
couldn't you just keep said turtle busy until your team wins?
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>>172184510
Hm, kind of assumed that'd be more like a bandaid than learning
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>>172184117
I doodled since I was a kid and came natural to me. Sadly never dedicated to it and left it when I got older and now i'm re learning.

I think that the secret is to look at it as something you can learn technically. Drawfags and artists say "oh no I just "feeeel" the thing" but also they often tend to get stuck and never develop further. Drawing and painting, as any other thing, has proven techniques and science behind them; there are many drawing books as tools to grasp the human body, techniques to ease the shape drawing, Vanishing Points use, etc.

So you want to draw? take it as learning mechanics or something. You just do and practice.The style and feel comes with it. If you want to fuck around and doodle 12 headed tall men or women or bizarre ink monster things you can do so, but when you're asked to draw a canon believable human body you can do it without ever hesitating too.
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>>172184767
heavies can be grabbed too
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I like this color.
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>>172184842
I mean, thats what you do with the enemy stud, keep him busy until your team wins.

But what if your team is losing, and you have been conistantly the last guy? Why not risk trying to double up it if you have been losing anyway?
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>>172185129
kiwibringer, is that you?
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>>172185065
I agree entirely on learning mechanically, the issue every guide I find teaches barely anything or is entirely unhelpful. Nothing really seems to be that comprehensive
Inb4 loomis
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>>172184891
Hey, think of this: Does it work? if yes then the work is done.

Is it "cheating"? how come? you want to learn don't you? what is cheating in drawing?

Look fucking Greg Land, he has made a career out of cheating

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/greg-land/4040-2064/forums/greg-lands-art-why-i-hate-it-take-178-407907/

I mean it's only for you to learn whatever the means.
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why is literally every single raider and shugoki black now
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>>172185145
Because ganks are cheap and most faggots that run do so -when they start to lose-.
People will assume you're tryhard scum if you do it, especially if you're playing one of the scummy classes. (PK in particular)


Also, win/loss doesn't matter, who gives a shit if your team loses?
You shouldn't.
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>>172184309
>Went on the official For Honor forums asking if honorfagging in 1v1 is a reportable offense, considering letting your teammate die because you want to play by special rules is absolutely griefing
>Half the thread is honorfags calling me scum because I don't want my teammates to just stand by and fucking watch if I need help
Don't know if it does anything, but I always report honorfags if I can
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>>172185395
No, not cheating, I thought it'd be more bad habit forming or not really teach much at all than anything, trying to do things right. I picked up guitar 8 years ago and am still unlearning things so
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>>172185437
Memes.
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>>172184309
>>172185651
I just don't get it
If you want to 1v1, why not go to duel?
It's a mode that catter specifically to what they want, it's the ENTIRE POINT of the gamemode, so why the fuck do you bring that shit in 4v4
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>>172185265
Apart from the obvious "hurr practice a lot" because, yeah, practice, there's some few interesting things you can do:

References are a tool. "I can't draw hands!" well, me neither sometimes, I just watch my hand on a mirror or take a picture of myself or look for a pic with said pose.

>I'm not sure of the lines
Start off by drawing the draft skeleton. Don't skip this part. It's a stick figure that you're going to dress up later. In this stick figure you first find the pose and the proportions. Then you draw everything else

And look up for using Vanishing Points. It's fun and it's instant realistic looking shit that will teach you in no time everything.
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>>172185257
>There is a Lawbringer who comes to this thread. He comes in the winter when people are hungry, he brings Kiwi, comes on the LEDGE. That was last night.
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>doing AI orders to squeeze out that Steel
>game has no problem throwing me in an AI game by myself and have people join after
>game will NOT load a game if it only finds two people

The fuck is wrong with this game.
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>>172185651
>Don't know if it does anything
It gets all your reports binned is what it does, faggot.

>>172185820
It doesn't cater to them at all.
There's no lobby so the fight gets stale fast, you're stuck until best-of-three before anyone can change their class, and HALF THE GODDAMN MAPS ARE LEDGE SHIT.
The 1v1 mode is garbage for 1v1, it really is.
And this has been repeated in almost every thread since the beta.
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>>172185615
>cheap
>win/loss rate doesn't matter
>who gives a shit if your team loses

Because its a TEAM mode. If I go 12/4 but we still lose because I just dueled people as they revived each other, I might as well have went 0/12.
If I wanted to prove how big my epeen was, i would and do prove it in the 1v1 mode
In elimination, i should care less about how many people I can kill 1v1 and how I can help my team win, whatever skill level they may be.
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>>172185820
We just don't know.
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>>172186056

Just turn off matchmaking you idiot
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>>172186242
>go spam rb somewhere else
this is a masterpiece
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>>172185820
They're just faggots who demand people play by their own special rules. Basically they want to play different modes, but can't handle being ganked, so they screech about it when it happens
>>172186096
Keep 1v1s in 1v1s. Bitch to ubisoft if you want better maps, don't go shit up another mode with honorfag shit
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>>172186714

The honorfags are already there, though.

Skirmish and Elim are totally unplayable with them.

Skirmish and Elim are totally unplayable even without them.

One of the fundamental changes that could be made to make those modes playable would be to just force players to be honorfags.
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>>172186928
What the fuck do you mean "unplayable"?
They're played exactly the way they're meant to, 4v4 with or without respawns
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>>172186160
It is cheap, and it doesn't matter, and no one should give a shit about winning.
Games are about fun, not struggle, and running from fights to engage in cheap shit isn't fun, not for the person you're fleeing and not the person you're ganking.
Shit, maybe not even the teammate you're 'assisting', who now has to contend with potential revenge-mode bullshit and missing out on their fair fight/kill.

Teamwork's well and good, but people fucking hate tryhard runners for a reason.
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>>172186096
They really do need some cool lobby shit like SC5 and GGXRD had/has.

I want to see cute little chibi knights, weebs and vikings!
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I wish i could hide my rep level. It really gives me anxiety in duels.
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>>172185857
I can use vanishing points with landscapes, not so much people. Regarding skeletons, do you have any good references for getting it right? Also I really appreciate the responses, my replies are just a bit curt from phoneposting
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>>172186242
Make the containment mode better if you want to be a ganking tryhard shitter in 2s without being called out for your faggotry you motherfuck.
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>>172186714
Reminder that honorfags are children that try to build sandcastles while tryhards are children that run around trying to stomp sandcastles.
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>>172187594
>playing the game as intended is tryhard now
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>>172186928
>One of the fundamental changes that could be made to make those modes playable would be to just force players to be honorfags.
>Dude the only solution to honorfags is for the game to force people to be them!
Fuck off. 4v4 is exactly what it says, 4v4. Fuck off to duels if you want to be an honorfag
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>>172180052
How do i rebind my controls for my gamepad?
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>>172187725
>Tryhards
Playing 4v4 as 4v4 is not being a tryhard, it's playing the game the way it's intended
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>game mode is called brawl
>brawls are implied by name to be chaotic
>usually ends up being an organized 2v2 tournament
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>>172187249
Someone mentioned having open skirmish maps that people could wander around as neutral/pve actors & initiate duels in- so you could fight wherever in the level you wished, with whomever you wished, with/without soldier NPCs present etc.
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>Activating Fury and Berserk
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>>172188089
>And grabbing the speed feat
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I swear to fucking god. Ubi isn't dense enough to NOT change Lawbringer's stance change speed right?
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>>172187853
I bet you run from your elimination 1v1s to buff, don't you?
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>>172184423
I mean it's annoying when someone runs off to get powerups but it's not the worst thing someone could do. Just gives me free reign to go gank the nearest enemy.
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>>172188138
Remember you said this when you're watching the Dev livestream.
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>>172180445
>both swordsmen who rely on good fundmentals
>one is from Japan, while the other has European origins
>one is literally named KENsei
Surprised you didn't pick up on this earlier.
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>>172188047
4v4s are fair game. Only idiots expect more than a FFA, and they get called idiots when they bitch about it in chat.
2v2 meanwhile is the de-facto honorfag/duelist refuge, and ganklet fags need to understand that they and their own brand of faggotry aren't welcome there.
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>>172188198
nope, usually fight it out. I like dueling.
Understand why people do, though.
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>>172188282
This is how IRL generational conflicts get started.
Everyone just randomly fucking semi-related people because they themselves had been fucked by some random shitter.
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>>172185790
reported you fucking nigger lover
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>>172188708
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>>172188708
post black mains
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>>172188879
>skin color
Disgusting

>skin color with that hair
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING DISGUSTING
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>>172188353
I know they are going to fuck it up. Its a matter of how badly.
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>>172188879
>Shad
I puked
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>>172180726
Pretty sure only Kensei has Unblockable though.
Every assassin and 2/3 hybrids have access to Sharpened Blades.
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>>172189123
Raider's zone.
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>>172189034
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>>172189330
Oh fuck I'm retarded, nevermind.
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>>172187995
Does anyone know?
I can't change them ingame i just want to bind GB to L1
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>>172188508
I can agree with this, however faggots still end up costing me the game in 4v4s because they don't only bitch about ((((honor)))), they practice it
>Enemy team is gangbanging in elimination whenever they can
>Meanwhile I have two faggots on my team who REFUSE to fight at all unless it's a 1v1
>I'll literally save them from getting killed and they'll just stand back and watch the fight, refusing to help
>They refuse to accept that them watching teammates getting killed and executed is what made the team lose, instead they blame others for "not being able to handle your opponent"
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>>172189638
It's true, some people are retards.
Can't do anything but remind them they're retards & ignore them.
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>>172189742
Raider.
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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
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>>172189742
Kensei
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>108 gear score damage-centric Orochi
>Gib me in two hit
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>>172189924
LEGENDARY
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>>172189493
If you run it from steam you can use steam big picture to rebind controls. just did it myself.
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>>172189924
Holy Shit, Odin has spoken
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>>172189797
I want them to get banned for it. Why even have a button to report griefing when letting your teammates get killed isn't counted as it?
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>>172190370
>tfw no bare shoulders option for Raider
Guess I'll have to stick with Vaerie/Albernich for that look.
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Man I feel like in the larger story which will no doubt never progress the samurai are straight fucked. Like the whole "our warriors need to be worth ten of theirs" but their mooks are as strong as other mooks and there heroes as strong as other heroes, leaving them fucked. I mean they're a real bitch to conquer I suppose and even then no one would really want to but I feel like they're getting the shit end of the stick here.
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>>172190580
samurai will eventually team up with knights to destroy the raiders because they clearly showed that both those factions are willing to put their differences aside

meanwhile, raiders chimp out and fuck everything up every chance they get
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F E M R A I D E R
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Why do people have to call me trash after I loose a match? I'm just trying to enjoy myself.
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If this game doesn't kill me out of sheer fucking rage and frustration I don't know what will.
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>>172190485
Only thing I can think of that'd really fit the bill is running away for the entire match.
Objective is to ruin someone else's fun rather than just have their own.
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>>172190706
>also pictured: nobushi & warlord
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>>172190941
>PK playstyle
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>>172190706
Shame about that voice though.
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>>172190838
Literally to make themselves feel better.
Either ignore & leave or throw them a curveball to fuck with their heads/get on their good side.
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>>172190941
My teammates standing by and emoting as I get executed in elimination is absolutely ruining my fun
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>>172191075
No I mean as in they never fight, not even ganks.
A fucking Nobu did this and their own team was bitching about the wasted time.
The nobu just played dumb.
It was L E G E N D A R Y
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What other sort of lights are relatively easy to parry?

The side dash orochi is really the only one i've been able to do reliably.
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>>172190838
Make themselves feel better because they have an overbloated sense of how good they are. These are the same type of people who thinks anyone who's better than them are no life losers and probably use the "yeah well i have a life" excuse. But oh man when they beat somebody they are the first to tell them how bad they are and they should stop playing.
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Just went up against my first lag-switching user PK.
This one was the complete model, every options included, full on revenge gear, light and zone spamming, trash talking little shit.

I'm not even mad, I'm just amazed of how much of a cunt one can be.
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>>172191806
You did report him, right? Cheating fucking ruins games.
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Man raw unpainted armor looks so great in this game I feel bad that I'm not using roughly half of the customization options.
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>>172191919
Yeah, but who know if it'll do shit.
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>>172191201
>>172191653
>>172191653
The problem is that i get a lot of attention since i'm Rep 24 almost. I just like to play a lot.

On the flipside, since i'm a lawbringer i get a lot of love mail. I just have to take the bad with the good i guess.
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>>172191959
Don't worry, that's why they put in engravings.
For the people like you who actually appreciate armor without having to cover it in cowadooty skinz
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>>172191325
Probably not their intent, just how you took it.
Only griefy thing they did was emote, but good luck trying to explain that to a janitor without them telling you to grow a thicker skin.
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>>172192130
>Rep 24
Have to admit that's not exactly something you see in every games.
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>>172190402
what if i have it on uplay?
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>>172192138
Oh man now I want to just stack as many eye searing shit onto each piece that I can. Like dazzle camo, an engraving, and an emblem on every piece of armor, with the most blasted out colors possible.
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>>172192130
Just gotta ignore it, turn off the All chat if you must. People for some reason still think Rep is an indicator of player skill.
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So there's a Centurion, Ninja, and possibly a Highlander. What could be the fourth warrior? A hoplite?
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>>172192412

A pirate

Mongol (speculation based on what drove samurai out)

Monk
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>>172192412
I honestly wouldn't be surprised, they seem to go for the stereotypical ye ol' warriors and a Hoplite would perfectly fit the hybrid.
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>>172192038
Best case scenario his uplay account gets banned and he fucks off.
Knowing how companies want to keep players though he'll get suspension warnings first.
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>>172192412
I would suspect they'll come in threes, since each faction seems to have 1 character for each class. (vg/heavy/ass/hybrid so far).
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>>172187590
For the skeletons do really simple geometric shapes but the most basics are simple:

>The canon length of a body is 8 heads of its own
>A woman is the same, but head is a bit smaller
>Men have their shoulders as broad as the wide of their heads
>Women have a bit more than a half
>"Sexy" men have wide shoulders and smaller waist ratio, while "sexy" women have their hips exactly as wide as their shoulders. This is the Hourglass shape of body
>If a woman has her hips narrower than her shoulders that's not a woman, baby
>These canon measurements can vary but not by much: Like Bayonetta or Peter Dinklage
>Drawing is like sculpting: A head may start as a cube, a torso may as well depending on the angle you want to draw them, and then just sculpt through
>Drawing manga fries your brain and teaches you jack shit. Start by actual drawing and then simplify, not the other way around. Manga artists did learn this way.
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>>172192412

Shapeshifter
Screenshot this post
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>>172180810
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>>172185790
>>172188879
Don't listen to those vanilla fags. These are fucking great anon. These chcolate, ebony waifus are pure and perfect. These are genuinely improved of the original pics.
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>>172192872
>can vary but not by much: Like Bayonetta or Peter Dinklage
>Peter Dinklage

w-what?
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>>172193040
Now that I think about it, that's a fuckton much.

But yeah, you get what I mean.

Bayo is like 12 heads long with her gunstillettos
Peter Dinklage has the proportions of a kid, 5 times his head
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>>172191476
Kensei side dash lights are really easy

berserker too, as long as you watch out for feints
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>>172193193
I think people think Bayoneta is tall because of her proportions. She is actually not that tall, every single man in her series is taller than her with the exception of Enzo. She just had incredibly long legs.
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What are the best stats for weapon parts for both the warden and the lawbringer?

And by best I mean which one takes max upgrade, which one is second, and which one can afford to be in the negative?
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>>172184309
I'd imagine they literally are the Dark Souls honor brigade since ds3 pvp is pretty lame, not much else to move to
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>>172193867
Stats are almost meaningless and reflects almost nothing

But the notorious ones are exhaustion regen and Revenge Gain.

LB has really low stamina so mind that.
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>>172193867
Lawbringer really needs stamina stats, and defense should either be primary or secondary because Lawbringer can't approach.

Depending on your Warden build you can go for Attack/Stam or Defense/Stam
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>>172193867
I can't decide between Attack+stam or Def+stam

I'm currently using attack even though DEF has good scaling for Law.
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yes, I know these are likely because I was host
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>>172194090

Only partially correct. There are some stats that are literally meaningless like block attack or block attack resistance. Maxing out either of those shaves off like one point.

Both attack and defense actually are impacted by a huge margin if you maximize or minimize either.
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>>172195256
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>>172196174
>Both attack and defense
I thought attack only had a marginal increase, but defense was a massive increase?
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>>172195256
>>172195391
I've had that happen once at the end of a game, made me feel like shit as it happened as soon as I executed the final enemy.
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>>172195256
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When are the new outfits supposed to come out?
I thought they said in the next update.
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Why is Berserker fashion so fucking awful. It's like they went out of their way to make everything look bad.
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next hybrid hero?
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>>172197123
>the 36th chamber
HOLY FUCK THAT MOVIE IS WHAT MOTIVATED ME TO MARTIAL ARTS I STILL HAVE THE VHS FUUUUUUC
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>>172197317
>>172197123

INTO THE 36 CHAMBERS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsiAsTa0oEI
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>yfw the new update will add bots spamming emotes
>bot conqs: RAWRAWRAWRAWRAWRAW
>Law bots: constant pony ride
>Raider bots: pelvic thrusts
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>>172196243
24% for both
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>>172198034

source? I want the numbers so I can start testing them
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>>172192515
Don't know why people allude to Mongols driving the weebs out. With the relocation of various groups, and the fact that we aren't actually on Earth, it could literally be anyone. I can't see them doing a Mongol unless it is the over-the-top Palace Guard in Marco Polo
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>>172198327
the next heavy hero
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>>172198110
weirdly i have 2 of these, pick which one you want to believe (i'd pick second)

1: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=0

2: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zFVDpxuOZt9flYqncdxLACeOiMEsKDkCqYmQBGQXvmk/edit#gid=0
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>>172198327

After the earth quake it was said the Samurai were driven out by something
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>>172198730
They relocated after the Cataclysm, and then had to relocate their capital due to another force in the east.
However, due to the fact that we aren't on Earth, where the factions are has no bearing on who they should be. It could be anyone, and there is no evidence that it is any particular culture or group of people.
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The matchmaking in this game is atrocious. Ubishit, please fix your game already.
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>>172199043
I bet youre one of those people who think rep means something
>oh shit were in trouble because (insert high rep character here) is on the other team
that or youre complaining that gear is broken, when only revenge gear is
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>>172199043
Of course Anon, how about you lend us a bit of money in order to do that? It's not like we are millionaires
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So when they talk about the balance changes in the dev stream this weak. What will be your reaction if they say they are NOT nerfing Peacekeeper?
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>no knight with a mace
>no samurai wearing a sashimono
>no kang that looks even remotely identical to historical vikings
feels bad
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>>172199737
The devs main PK so it wont happen
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>>172198864
It was definitely white otakus creeping them out.
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>>172199787
warlord is pretty close to your historic viking
also >no kamishimo option for kensei
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>>172199737
In all likelihood they are saving the big buffs and nerfs for the start of season 2 update. These changes of course would be done with the release of the 2 new heroes. It sucks for us but it will absolutely bring in a large amount of people to the game. IF they do change anything in the next few weeks before season 2, it wont be major. (I hope I'm wrong)
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>>172200523
>season 2

This game will legitimately be dead if they fucking wait that god damn long to implement much needed balance changes.
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>>172200669
ubisoft is held back by consoles and shit

Siege gets like 2 updates in a span of 4 months
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>>172201034
wut
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>>172201160
Wrong thread sorry my dude
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>>172201324
Fuck off retard, 9S is one of the worst fucking protagonists ever.
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Why are the worst characters the most fun?
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>>172201423
Big swings of momentum, high damage attacks, pretty good flavor.
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>>172199582
>Dude rep means nothing!
>Yeah rep gives you access to revenge gear, but whatever
Under no circumstance should my entire fucking team be under rep 1 people and the entire enemy team over rep 5 with 108 gear
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I'm taking a break till patch notes are released.
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i fucking love the crybaby redditors who play this game
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>>172202637
Did you actually farm dominion AI or just afk? Jesus
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>>172203171
No, I just really like lawbringer and use FH to cope.
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Why isn't anyone drawing femconq yet? She has a cute voice.
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>>172202637
Jesus christ, how long do you play the game /day?
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>>172203504
A lot recently. Most of the time. I have oddly vacant schedule at the moment.

I keep thinking if i just keep playing i'll get better.

But i play mostly Dominion so i get a lot of XP.
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>>172202701
You did kinda jerk him around there.
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>>172203249
>use FH to cope
I know that feel. It was dark souls for me.
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>>172202701
Him quitting was an overreaction, but you were being a dick for no reason
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Anons.. This was Warden's elite outfit in the Alpha.

What if this is Warden's new elite outfit that's supposed to be coming?
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>>172204347
>daubeny wings on the dev only outfit
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>>172204347
I wouldn't be surprised at all, considering the "new" emotes are just on disc dlc that the bots use
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>>172201034
post 2Booty for your transgression
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>>172203314
If I enjoyed that playstyle at all I would main femconq for that swag armor and voice
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I fucking despise that fucking 50/50 that shugo's do. I can't handle it it gets me so mad.
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>>172206298
What's his 50/50?
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>>172206820
they'll sprint at you, and either do the running charge for a free heavy, or grab you if you dodge for another free heavy, and they'll just run away and do the same thing again
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>>172206869
That must take some practice, usually when I play him and sprint I only have enough time for a light if I knock someone down. Definitely sounds like one gay play style though
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Conqueror having more than one viable strategy when?
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lewds when
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>>172207437
FemOrochi and Nobushi captured, raped and mindbroken by an army of Shugokis when?

PK spitroasted by Lawbringers when?

Valkyrie on Valkyrie lesdom when?

No lewds for Lady Warden. She's pure. PURE.
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>>172184168
Fix your NAT Type, mang
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>>172207538
>any of the cast
>pure
FemWarden gets gangbanged just as much as all the other sluts anon, she'll just lie about it and act like she doesn't
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>>172208048
DELET THIS
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>>172207538
> implying lawbringers aren't the masochistic faggots they're
It's the opposite anon. PK pegs the shit out of lawbringers.
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>>172207079
But there is enough time for a side(? I don't think top is fast enough) heavy if you knock someone down, just lock on immediately after you run someone down
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>>172208618
>PK will never peg you while giving you a reach around
>Valk will never sit on your face and rub your dick with her feet
>Nobushi will never tie you up using weeb shibari techniques and such you dry

Why even live?
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>>172207538
>>172208048
But anons, Fem Conq is the most pure waifu. There are 0 lewds of her. All the other women are whores, never forget that.
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>>172208758
>Fem Conq is the most pure waifu.
>An ex-convict is pure

ROASTIE
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>>172208758
Well that's just because no one wants her, anon. In her heart lies a true slut just waiting to be filled. Unfortunately, even the warborn pass her up.
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>>172208738
;_;
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>>172208857
>No THICC Femgoki
>No tall, awkward female Lawbringer
>No musclegirl Warlady.
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only when the general is dead do the lewds thrive
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>>172188061
on most of the maps you spawn a good distance away from your teammate and the other enemy, doesn't it make sense that it would work out that way?
elim is the same, if they intended it to be a 4v4 clusterfuck every match they would put the spawns closer together no?
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>>172207538
> warden
> pure
> sucked a lot of soldier dicks as a last resort for them to join her against the blackstone legion
yeah keep telling yourself that
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>>172209283
DELET
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>>172208957
Shugoki is just fat though. I'm glad he's an exclusive male.
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>>172204347
weren't we supposed to get the new elite outfits on thursday
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>>172209659
I thought they were supposed to be in the last update, but they're apparently coming next week.
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Now that /fhg/ is dead as shit, when will the lewdfics return?
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>Need to get rep fucking nine to get the Watch color for Warden

AAAAAAAA
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>30 minutes since previous post
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>>172185790
>>172188879

listen here motherfuckers, just because it gives you a boner doesnt mean its okay to just do that shit

we all love to imagine sniffing black female raiders armpits while she takes us forcefully, but it doesnt mean you can pull this historically inaccurate shit in game
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>>172190370

lel

no one in the age of vikings could have survived that many deep cuts. infection killed about as many soldiers as immediately fatal injuries
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>>172190838

>play conq
>get called shit when you win
>get called shit when you lose
>get called a spammer when you use attacks
>get called a noob when you use the stage
>get called lame when you use your shield

its mostly assassin fags too. why do you guys feel so entitled to wins? when PK gets fixed i am gonna die of a salt overdose
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hey, i just woke up
warden is not op, prove me wrong
pro tip: you can't
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>>172214920
Junst unlock and roll away lol
Like, do this 50 times a fight, not annoying or cancer at all or anything
It's fair 100%
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>>172215216
>It's fair 100%
someone that get's it
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>>172180376
Do all vanguard get superior block on dashing and guarding into an attack or is it just Kensie? I know all vanguard can block and and dash but it's the superior block I'm interested in.
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>>172201423
>tfw you prefer shield & sword
Idk that feel.
I wish it would be a knight that used that though.
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what kind of stats should you aim for as a raider?
this is me now. I like the stamina cost reduction, is it redundant to also have good stamina regen? I'm mainly curious about the chest piece and head piece. Can someone shed some light on those values and their worth? thanks.
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>>172213765
>but it doesnt mean you can pull this historically inaccurate shit in game
But anon... have you played the game?
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>>172216224

Stamina cost reduction is good on paper for him but you should just go for attack because all the raider can do is hope to get a heavy or ZA in because the opponent fell asleep or something and has to get the most out of that moment
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>>172213765
FH's history isn't even earth's history you mong. Anything goes.
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>>172216287
I was wondering about this. I'm starting to find it harder and harder to confirm anything else than a light, so I usualy try and go for the exhaustion, get my opponent on the floor, and do some damage then. Does having a high attack value make itself felt?
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>>172216446
It's just a few % more but raider's heavies do very high damage so that can make a noticable difference.
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((they)) will nerf PK in a way that will buff her
mark my words, screencap this if you must
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>>172216849

pk doesnt need to be nerfed as such, just fixed

her lights regularly cause me damage despite me blocking in that direction and her showing the recoil animation. the attack indicators dont come out until shes already in the parry phase with her lights and then she damages through guard. she doesnt always get knocked down from guard break when she has no stamina

her kit is fine, but the character is just full of bugs
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>>172217049
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>>172216224
Defense and stam cost reduction
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1-5 Play Warden all day
6-0 Play Kensei all day

42 - 69 or 78 Play Shugoki and charge people all day
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>>172217416
Very well

Prepare to charge
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>>172217804
But... you rolled something else?
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>>172209280
Its a free for all and if youre dead and im not its ok for me
>>
post memes

please
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>>172218624
no u
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I never should have picked up Warden to Rep 3

I used be so good at parrying as Kensei and feinting

I cant do shit anymore on him
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>>172188061

mute all and then do as you please

>>172209280

on all of the maps at least one player on each side of the fight can easily run to the other fight. for example, i would argue that the bridge on duel is designed to force brief 2v1 fights until the player that spawns at the far end of the bridge can come back up his team mate
>>
ded
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>>172219169
No, the spawns are that way, to encourage the pairs to fight their own individual 1v1s. The only exception would be forest, where you spawn literally right next to your teammate.

If they didn't want people to complete their respective 1v1, then they would spawn teammates closer together, as they do in dominion/skirmish.

Not to mention each round starts off with you zoomed in on your paired opponent.

If you want to go 2v2 instead of two 1v1s, go right ahead, no one can stop you. I certainly wouldn't do that, but I don't have a problem with it, as it is a 2v2 mode. Just don't actually try to prove that it's not designed to be two 1v1s at first, because it is. Same thing for elimination.
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WHAT IF Kensei's second light was guaranteed after hitting the first one? This would mean after hitting a top light you would always get the second light into whatever finish mixup you want
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>>172219661

if you werent supposed to brawl, then why did they call it brawl, instead of dual duel?

why are some characters clearly balanced for 2v1s such as shugo and conq?

why do you generate so much revenge from 2v1s?

why do you get renown bonuses for winning an "honourable 2v1?"

the design of the game is clearly geared towards lopsided and 2v2+ fighting

if the devs wanted you to 1v1 theyd lock each side of the map behind switch activated gates like the ones that exist in the full bridge map so that it would be extremely hard to get away from your "designated" opponent long enough to pull the switch
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>>172219719

so he'd be just as cancerous as orochi? nice
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>>172219993
He would be decent at least
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>>172184423
>fight a max gear rep 12 PK with my lev 15 noob raider
>I actually get two heavys in and they're near critical low hp

>they proceed to do nothing but backwards dodge, trying to bait me in to chasing (because all I can do is guardbreak, everything else gets dodged)
>this goes on for two (2) whole minutes
>Finally lose my patience and just run towards a shield pickup
>the PK eats the bait, hook and all
>360 degree in to an unblockable that kills her

>calls me a coward
the fucking irony is through roof, all the way up to pluto

That was the most satisfying kill I've ever had, but it still left me seething at how fucking retarded and pretentious PK mains are
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>>172197813
>someone actually made this edit
I'm proud
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>>172218624
Kensei
Lawbringer
Raider
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Should I be taking Stam reduction over attack as berserker?
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>>172199787
I want a ronin/rurouni so bad
>wears a motherfucking gasa and a kimono
>carries 1-3 katanas on his side
>master of iaido
>basically a cooler, classy orochi except not a faggot ninja-wannabe
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>>172201423
because whenever you get a heavy attack without guardbreaking, you know you actually outplayed your opponent without cheesing
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>>172221093
>Using built in mechanics is cheesing
Why are you special snowflakes so butthurt about everything lmao
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>>172220826
>Lawbringer
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>>172222301
Truly the most memetastic character.
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Is revenge mode defence OR revenge gain by defence better? Does it matter?
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>>172221093
I can't CBG: The Post
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>>172222336

Gain by defense. Your revenge builds up from blocking attacks faster then. It's pretty much the main part of a revenge build.
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Warden removing the weeb menace

It was the only death that entire match I had, who the fuck decides to Catapult just 1 player god damn
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>>172223306
i usually catapult PKs and roaches because they will just start running from anything
i ain't got time for that
>>
When do the devs do their shitty stream and are we likely to get any word on the balance patch or will it be the standard "we're aware of the issues but here's some retarded shit to stick on your helmet lol XD" again?
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>>172222375
in what way did you come to that conclusion?
All I said is that getting a heavy attack as a slow hero without GB/parrying first means you outplayed your opponent
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>>172223306
One more proof that Wardens are mentally damaged
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>playing with THE worst dominion team
>team is breaking when we only have 400 points
>about to connect my RAIDER zone on a shitty PK
>DC mid swing

cmon, you can't even give me this one pleasure ubisoft?
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WHY IS KENSEI'S SIDE DASH LIGHT A FREE GUARDBREAK ON BLOCK ITS AS SLOW AS ANOTHER CLASS' HEAVY WHO THE FUCK IS BEHIND THE BALANCING OF THIS GAME SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>172219936
I really wish they'd made a 4v4v4 gangbang clusterfuck mode.
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>>172223306
LAW removing the weeb menace
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>uninstalled 1 and a half weeks ago
>havent checked any news on the game since then
>decide to get up to speed today
>theres literally been no word from the developers
gg daed gaem
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>>172225693
catapult is the perfect pesticide for roach infestation
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>>172225847
n-no, they released more cosmetics...
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>>172225847
http://steamcharts.com/app/304390
so fucking dead
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>>172226036
>1 dumb ornament and 1 emote to every class
>they had those for months in advance ready to release with a push of a button
>they did it so that it would be easy to test the waters and see how fast their current moneysink is, so that they could make the "new" ones more expensive
>"we're in it for the long run"
>a month later and we still don't have a PROPER balance patch
>game has lost like 70% of it's playerbase

it's almost like they want this game to fail
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>>172225847
>>172226376
It took less than a year for someone to fuck up a game launch worse than Gearbox.
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Is it just me or are the npcs abusing the fuck out of revenge now too? I remember they use to hold onto their revenge when you're 1v1, but in skirmish today these fuckers are popping them every 3 hits.

I'm trying to get the killstreak order so I just quit out. Fuck you cunt, I'm the only user here so when I'm gone your program ends. I hope they feel pain.
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>>172226560
>worse than battleborne

come now, its bad, but its not THAT bad
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>>172226560
If it was near anyone else behind this game other than Ubisoft, we might've had a GOTY, but no, we had to get the worst one.
Now all the other game creators out there will look at For Honor as a warning sample.

A decade will pass until we get another game even vaguely resembling this, because devs will think that this genre has no audience, therefore it's not worth it.


I bet atleast one dev is silently lurking these threads.

Take heed and fix your game before it's too late.
Even though I bought gold edition pre-ordered, I'm not mad about the money spent, I'm mad at Ubishit for killing another good game/franchise
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>>172227476
>Take heed and fix your game before it's too late.

please this. once server stability is in and basic balancing is implemented, then the games retention rate will increase dramatically.

DCing every 2/3 games is what's losing most people
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>People in duels are too good
>Brawl aswell
>4v4 is a gear, PK, Warlord aids fest
>Dominion is only sometimes fun
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>>172227587
Yep, not to mention how fucking expensive and time consuming customizations in this game is.

Then, to earn that steel to buy/upgrade shit, you have to do orders and dailys that wont even reward you progress when one shitty faggot decides to ruin the game disconnecting everyone
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>>172227668
>tfw taking out the entire enemy team one by one while defending a point in Dominion
Dominion can be lots of fun.
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>>172227476
I'm pretty sure other devs out there acknowledge the core engine and how it's one of the best freeform melee fighters since fucking Jedi Academy (it was even mentioned earlier in the thread how the engine can provide the basis for the next great Star Wars lightsaber-centric game). The key is the wrapping they place around that engine.
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>>172228878
Some people are even calling it the next evolution of the fighting game, since some of the FGC wants to jump in on it.
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>>172227476
I don't think so, when was the last time a company did a fully 3d fighting game with 3 way block? Most games that look like For Honor are either ARPGs that aren't multiplayer focused or if they are, they're more reliant on abilities and feats than what this game is, or they're 2.5D fighting games where there is no need to prioritize your targets.
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Which one?

I'm changing the sword on the last one still, just waiting for that hilt to drop
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>>172229357
Black one, but with a mustache mask.
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>>172229357
Black one with this mask plus crab ornament
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>>172225093
that doesn't sound fun at all
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>>172229115
Well the 3D fighting fan base already bought for honor
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>>172229937
They just need to make a non-euclidean maze for it take place in.
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>warden
>can charge cancle into a guardbreak if you dodge
>because you dodged you cant escape it
>balanced

>dodge his charge somehow
>GB him
>he can tech out of it
>balanced

warden is nothing but a pure cancer class like PK/orochi/valk, they think they're top "shit" but take away their one spam toy and they have no clue what to do.
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>>172230567
The time window when he can cancel his charge is a too favorable for him.
Basically conq's shield bash its a "fair" version of warden's shoulder. He cant be punished, but he gains only one free light if he lands it and the bash itself is pretty slow, so its easier to dodge, and he cant cancel it.
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>>172230567
>>172231676
Just make it so warden can't cancel the bash, et voila, he's fixed.

He still has plenty of other offensive tools to get by.
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>>172231676
agree on timing part, it's too long

>>172231862
>He still has plenty of other offensive tools to get by.
>one punishable on block attack that drains his stamina
>15 damage top attack
yeah, plenty
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>tfw rep3 Law and Warlord
What am I
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>>172232075
A big guy
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>>172232151

For Honor
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>>172232075
a paradox
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>>172229940

Ouch that's cold as ice
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>>172229357
>tfw no kamishimo option for kensei
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38sPNZ8QHO4

Did they remove P2P yet?
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>>172232052
>yeh plenty

He would also still have the bash, no one is saying taking it way from him just make it so it can't be cancelled to a GB
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>>172232674
>crowbcuck>>172232674
>>
Who /can't find a fucking main/
I have a pool of like 5 heroes that I'm content playing, but nobody that really gives me a feeling of "Fuck I wish I was playing X right now" when playing someone else
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>>172232719
Just so you know I own the game too and I have the exact same complaints.

Your fucking counterargument, please. If you have one, that is.
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>Warden hits me with top light
>Shoulder bash
>Top
>Shoulder bash
>top
>Shoulder bash
>Top

Are you telling me rolling away is the only thing I can do

Why isnt this parryable
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>>172232823
I've narrowed it down to Warden and Kensie which is manageable although when I play one for an extended period of time I just think about all the levels I could have got on the other one.

Such is the life of an autist...
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>>172232823
I'm total rep16 and I only have 2 rep3
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>>172232929

P2P for 1v1 and 2v2

Dedicated for the 4v4 shitters

Happy?

Crowbcat couldnt find anything else to shit on For Honor
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>>172233245
I'd be more than happy, but the lag switch issues still exist. Just posted a video that point it out.
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>>172233245
this game is great and I actually am impressed with ubishit for making it, but if you defend p2p in any way you are an absolute retard and should kill yourself or be lobotomized.
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>>172233459

I dont really think dedicated are the best for 1v1
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>>172233459
p2p is literally the best for 1v1 you absolute fag. This is clearly your first fighting game, or wannabe fighting game.
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>>172233459
Every fighting game is P2P 1v1
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>>172192880
How do we fix Dominion?
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Reminder it's not about being an honorfag or MUH FIGHT FOR HONOR NOT WITH HONOR, it's knowing when to be how much of one

1v1: Full honor, don't be an ass
2v2: Being the first to gank is dick
4v4: Running from the initial 1v1 is stage V cancer. Also reciprocate not-gangbanging if everyone else is obviously doing so. Also kill yourself IRL if you end up feeding revenge if you just start attacking right before a teammate has a kill so you can steal the points

I'm not saying anybody is obliged to listen to these, just that you'll be considered an asshole for breaking them.
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>>172232693
>it's so slow that you can attack him out of it literally every single time
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>>172233531
>>172233557
>>172233562


>ubishills

Your still around really holding onto this corpse arent you?
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>>172233819
I'm not a Ubishill I just play fighting games
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>>172233562
>This game should be like the others because all the others are like this
Brainless monkey.

People keep saying it'll "succeed like Siege" because it follows the same model. Siege succeeded because it uses fucking dedicated servers.
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>>172233948
Siege had even worse connection issues than FH, I'm not even him but what are you talking about
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>>172233948
Siege is not a 1v1 fighting game
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>>172227476
I honestly believe that other devs are smart enough to figure out that what killed For Honor wasnt the core gameplay, but Ubisoft (unsurprisingly) fucking up, and that theres huge potential in this kind of game.

We'll probably (hopefully) see For Honor clones in the near future.
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>>172234094
FPS games require better connection than 3D fighting games, you fucking dumbass frogposter.
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>>172233948

Nigga even if the game had your precious dedicated servers For Honor still wouldn't have a playerbase Siege is a shooter all you gotta do is point and click

For Honor did everything the same like Siege

>Free DLC
>Fresh Gameplay
>ubisoft launch fuckery
>micro transactions

Siege was a fucking mess it had like 20 tick servers and horrible net code
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>doing zone > feint > heavy with kensei cancels the zone and feints the heavy

For what purpose
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>>172234449
>all you gotta do is point and click
>Disregarding hitbox positions misaligned with actual player models
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why do people complain about roaches again

every roach I've ever played against as been horseshit at this game
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>>172234704
>charge shoulder
>try to feint it into a top light
>get zone instead
???????

>>172234931
they do a shit ton of damage and have a fast toplight/zone
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>>172234931
Because they're trash at the game and think orochi has more than 2 moves
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>>172234449

>Entire game switches to dedicated
>everything suddenly is way worse than it was before

I swear to Christ if ubisoft does this and it happens I wish people will never listen to reddit again
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Looks like I'm officially not allowed to have fun in 4v4 modes with any hero I don't have heroic gear with.

90% of the games I play are always against 108 gs revengewhores

If I join 2v1 and stare at them, they get revenge
If I hit 1v1 two times they get revenge
If I get 2v1'd, they get revenge too
If they have the feat that makes attacking build revenge, they'll have revenge without me even attacking

If they get revenge, they twoshot me, if they knock me down (which happens very often in revenge) they take 4 bars of my hp or instakill

I miss the beta..
Inb4 "just don't get hit" or "predict it :^)"

I just wanted to level a hero without going to shitty bot games
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>>172234931
Zone indicator exploits. Also the players are the same as PK's
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>>172234931
>roach that knows how to flicker his zone attack
>starting side/top-light animation with proper indicator position but then it flickers to zone attack
Yeah, good luck playing against that shit and not be mad about it at all.
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>>172235804
Warden can do the same thing except top is also a parry and you get a memetex off side lights
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>>172234449

I just want these fuck boys
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>join a 4v4 for order
>literally everyone is playing warlord, pk or valk

what a fun game that doesn't tempt to me to uninstall every time I want to have fun
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How the hell does this scene work if they don't speak the same language? Does the Warden speak nip?
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>>172235998
blocking warden's zone gives you a free GB, and it has a massive tell in the animation
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>>172235062

Dude, the other stats on gear that have revenge stuff are borderline worthless. Stop acting so surprised to see revenge builds everywhere.
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>>172236309
>t. rep 30 warden
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>>172236292
no the nip speaks warden
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>>172236449
no, they speak with their blades, words are unnecessary.
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>>172236449
actually, considering the Appolyon fight that does make more sese
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>>172236292
The knights and the Samurai have been wanting to team up and make peace for a while now

Reminder that its all the Kangz fault because they're inbred apes who want nothing but fighting and raping
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>>172236292
All the heroes of the 3 factions can speak English as well as their native language.
>>
yo I got 7228 steel
should I buy the MYTHIC outfit for my conqueror?
I'm currently at prestige 2 level 17
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>>172237045
the flames look like shit and will always be associated with the tryhardest of PK and Warden mains

Though as conq you clearly don't care about looking like a fag
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>>172237249
thanks man
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>>172237249
>Though as conq you clearly don't care about looking like a fag
Because you already a fag?
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>>172237383
no shit
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>>172236373
I hate wardens but it's true, the character take his sweet ass time doing his kick ass bayblade move with his zone, Orochi's zone is a lot faster.
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>drop from constant 60fps to 30 when I turn on supersampling

shame, but at least it still looks great without it.
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>>172237383
Yes that is what is being inferred
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WILL THE WEEBS WIN ANOTHER ROUND
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>>172236764
I'm pretty sure the only viking's in the story that actually cared about killing Apollyon were the titular raider and his warlord friend and even then it was over being brought to the edge of starvation and not about the infighting she caused, I'm pretty sure their other two friends Scalpy the civilized beserker and the valkyrie only tagged along due to hunger, idiocy and autism.
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>>172238196
Well yeah, in the intro Raider literaly say he fucked off from the mountains due to the general shitshow.
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>>172238145

The knights will
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>>172191476
Why does he hit with the non bladed end of the polearm

Why does Lawbringer refuse to use his fucking weapon correctly
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>>172192412
>Ninja is assassin
>Centurion is hybrid
>Highlander is Vanguard
>New character is heavy
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>>172238283
>when you're a raider and your warlord bro tells you no more raiding
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>>172238813
Because top heavies stun, so he hits with the hammer on those.
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>>172195256
Honestly it only really gets bad in dominion because p2p for more than 2 players is a terrible.
>>
You guys are making me nervous, talking as though the game's already failed.

Have they seriously not recognized the most obvious issues, like flickering?
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>>172202637
>Those shoulders
supreme taste, they are the best ones, fancy and elaborate without being covered in spikes or some dumb shit
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>>172236292
Everyone can speak the lingua franca, which is <whatever language your game is set to>.
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>>172236449
Unless you set your language to Japanese, in which case, the Warden speaks Nihongo.
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>>172233459
peer to peer connections are objectively the best connection for 1v1 mp.

Otherwise you wind up with the bullshit that is SFV's "relay" connections with constant rollbacks and input delay.
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Say what you want about orochi, but giving a pk shitter that one last look in the eye is priceless.
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>>172240002
Shut up roach you won't gain my respect by swinging at low hanging fruit
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>>172239252
Ubisoft has openly acknowledged pretty much every issue the game has. They're just moving slower to address the issues than people like.
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>>172192412
>highlander
That's news to me. Care to fill me in?
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>>172240114
That's an understatement.

But yeah its kind of made worse in some ways because they've acknowledged it, everyone knows what's wrong, Ubisoft says they know what's wrong but we're not seeing anything getting fixed in any tangible way.

Its frustrating for players because the dev streams are constantly saying "Yeah we're working on it guys trust us" but they're not even releasing small patches to fix some of the major issues that have obvious fixes, only bug fixes.
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>>172240378
The last couple server-side patches have been improving connectivity, though. The last devstream said the last couple of patches provided verifiable improvements to the connectivity. Improvements are happening, but they're not immediately obvious.
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>>172181773

Man my penis can only get so erect
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>>172240691
Honestly fixing stuff like guard break feint, stance switch timings and zone flickering should be a higher priority.

Connection issues are annoying but getting into a game and having to deal with shit is a far bigger turn off.
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>>172236349
Who said I'm surprised? I just hate having to fight those bitches abusing it when my entire team has white / blue gear

not to mention the shitty matchmaking that doesn't pick your team AFTER everyone has chosen their hero

you can have total rep of 20+ but once you play a new hero none of that means jack shit
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>>172240114
CONSOLES
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>>172241317
Nah, if they really cared they'd make some C-team for the console version and make the PC version the premier version like Blizzard did with OW.
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>>172241404
>lol y doesnt business just do X
Every time
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Block damage resistance or stamina regen?

Is Block damage useless?

Should I reduce debuff resistance or exhaustion recovery? (inb4 all PK and nobushis say debuff)
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When should I be using LB's light riposte?
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>>172241446
Forcing version parity always hurts online games.
Changes are always far too slow for no realistic reason and you can't communicate that cert is the reason otherwise everyone will get pissed that you're waiting on one platform to fix the game.
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>>172241736
I'm sure you know more than a massive team of professions which is why you're paid for your input and have a thorough knowledge of all business and financial operations
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>>172241572
Block damage is For Honor's terminology for chip damage: small bits of damage that go through when an enemy raw blocks your heavy. The "Block Damage" stat improves the chip damage you do, while "Block Damage Resistance" reduces the chip damage you receive. Make of that what you will.

Exhaustion Recovery is for if you're consistently running out of stamina (which you shouldn't), as it shortens the time you're exhausted.
Debuff Resistance helps against bleeds and other negative effects.
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>>172241719
On heavy parries in which the enemy is too far to GB.
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>>172241796
>I'm sure you know more than a massive team of professions
>>
>>172236292
The samurai isn't an uneducated savage and speaks Latin like all good civilised men>>172236309
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>>172241940
>if I greentext things I disagree with I win
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>>172241446
Where was that said?
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Are servers down?
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>>172241859
Why did you just explain shit I already know and not answer any of my questions?
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>>172242112
It's every time someone comes in here with a retarded idea thinking it'll improve a company
>>
When is having an open mic going to be a bannable offense?
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>>172242106
>If I ad hominem I win
It's the only response you deserved for that weak attempt at "argument"
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>>172242279
*breathes loudly*
*coughs*
*crinkles bag*
*sniffs*
*CRUNCH*
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>>172242236

What are you even talking about you literal autistic
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>>172242327
>doesn't refute an argument
>starts yelling terms he doesn't understand randomly
>petty insults
Are we done being a child who doesn't understand how the world works yet?
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WHERES THE FUCKING PATCH YOU BUNCH OF DICKLESS FAGS
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>>172242171
So that you can make an informed decision of your own.
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>>172242482
What argument?
>YOU DONT WORK FOR UBISOFT THEREFORE YOU'RE WRONG
That's not an argument you retard, give an actual reason as to why version parity doesn't hurt the community of online games.
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>>172242279
I had a guy with sports talk radio playing over his mic.
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>>172242643
Give me arguments as to why you know better than Ubisoft on how to run the game
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>>172242578
Idiot
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>>172242721
>>172241736
You're slowing down balance for a reason the playerbase does not care about, all these posts about WHERES THE FUCKING PATCH happen in every single online game and version parity only further exacerbates it and can also result in resentment between the players on multiple platforms.

This is part of the reason Valve wound up dropping support for console copies of TF2.
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>Orochi players

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e77oXjFkIs
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Lads, don't be an idiot and level an LB to 1.5 rep without realizing you can shove > heavy > heavy on an exhausted opponent instead of doing light > heavy > heavy.

What is wrong with me
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>>172243026
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>>172243101
I made it to Rep 3 with Kensei before realizing a guardbreak gives you a free side heavy
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>>172243172
>thinner piece of metal can't cut thicker piece of metal in half

I never understood these videos. The only thing dumber I've ever seen is some show shooting swords on the flat side to prove swords can't deflect bullets.
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>>172243014
Which is why Ubisoft will release PC patches immediately, and console patches will release later when they finish certification. That's what they did with the first (read: only) downloaded patch.
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>>172243101
*Dodges while exhausted*
Woow that almost hit me, man. Be careful with that.
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>>172243172
>Posting edits
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>>172241719
When parrying long range heroes like nobushi/kensei/law heavy attacks

most of the time you're better off just guardbreak heavying, but it's faster and saves stamina
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>>172243543
When are we getting some crazy billionaire with drone technology to test shit like this
>>
Lawbros,

Do you spam Pony or HRRRG?
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>>172243520
*homing GBs u*
*throws u 2 the pavement*
*has my way with you*
Pffft, nuffing post colonel
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>>172243791
HURR
Because I dont have pony

But also because I like the sound
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>>172243101
rep 9 law here

Too bad that combo gets parried before you even throw a second heavy
you're better off just trying to feint, top light or long arm after shove

To be fair, shove is only useful for hazards and soft CCing revengemode people
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>>172243026
>Orochi strategy
https://youtu.be/W9eEBM0B-94

>>172243645
>Mfw no billionaire has become a superhero yet
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>>172241916
>>172243580
That's what I thought.

Doesn't feel that tacticool or VERSATILE, but he's got the option where no one else does.

Sucks that fembringer is never ever
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>>172243938
Get on that shit, bruh, it's gold.
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>>172244146
fuck
i laffed so hard
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>>172244231
It also drains like half your stamina

often times I just let the parry play out so that they try attacking me again so I can drain them to exhaustion.
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>>172244146
>That enemy lawbringer

Does Lawbringer inspire the most camaraderie among enemies?
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>>172244146
>Those taunting Lawbringers after

That just reminded me of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL-C74JuWrM
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>>172244582
Absolutely. Half the time in brawl we just run to the other side and spam emotes at the other duel until they finish.
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>>172244438
Oh, I wasn't aware. That makes it a lot more valuable.

Do you generally prefer that, or GB > heavy > shove? I guess they should be mixed.
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>>172244717
GOD BLESS GEARSCORE
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>>172244582
There was this nobushi, that whenever I got her low on health she would run, one time she ran seeking help with that Lawbringer, the bro smacked the girl and let me and 2 friends gang upon her. Then it all went 1v1 till I beat the lb. He was a good comrade indeed.
In fact, in the video I linked you can see the nobushi running away from his fight
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>>172244717
outsmarted
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>>172244818
gb heavy
Take the damage where you can because lawbringer's offense is absolute garbage.
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>>172244960
>Parry a fucking light
>No GB
I swear this has happened to me too

Parries need to be made a little more consistent.
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>>172245093
that was her zone
and it happens vs pks way too often to just let it go as some lag or something
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>>172245093
That wasn't a light. That was her ZONING attack, the fastest and hardest to react to attack in the game. It's unpunishable on block and apparently unpunishable on parry.
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>>172244978
But he has breddy good pressure on someone out of stam, what with the shoves and unblockable.
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>>172244818
If I'm not near a wall, I usually go GB > heavy > Shove > Long arm if I have the stamina

If I'm near a wall, I will always try wall splat > top heavy > side light > top heavy > free light attack

Sometimes going for guardbreak after top heavy, because most people are retarded and don't try to counter a gb they can't see coming.

Generally, parrying a light attack and using ad mortem counter will be your best offensive, but it will also mean you will fall for ass-fags feints often
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>>172244843
That's confirmed a bug that's due to be fixed.
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>>172245169
>>172245163
o shit

that's retarded

I only just noticed the flicker as well
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>>172245246
Everyone and their mother has good pressure on exhausted players
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They should make it so every time you go into 4v4 with 80+ gear you have to win 5 duels in a row with that character first
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What company would you trust a For Honor Star Wars game to?
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>>172245548
That is absolutely retarded
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>>172241572
Stamina regen or cost reduction not both it's wasteful and makes you parry bait

Block damage is great on zerks going whole hog mostly but otherwise heavy hitters like shug will appreciate any damage they can deal on blocks

Debuff resistance aside from bleed and stun time is also trip recovery, prior experience has messed with combos like valks sweep to top heavy or shugs charge to heavy as you recover from trips minutely enough to respond.
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>>172245598
SO IS GEAR SCORE YOU FUCK
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>>172245554
Take the FH team and give them to like, fucking valve or something

What western producer is even good anymore?
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>>172245646
Sorry I meant shugs running charge to heavy.
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>>172245554
None, FH doesn't work. You can't make the lock on mode work if you can unlock. This is why every other game ever uses a soft lock on that doesn't change much at all.
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>>172245292
it's not even worth parrying pk's and roaches zones
because they are considered long range attacks and you can whip your gb on them and get punished for it
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>>172245548
Honestly it feels like they couldn't decide between making either a moba or fighting game so they went with both and ended with both feeling unsatisfactory.
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>>172244960
get good
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>>172246091

Well it's certainly not a fighting game.
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pls S T O P bullying orochis

I like playing orochi because warden is too slow for me
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>>172246091

Well not making a moba is good

Even if shitters here call it doomed apparently for a new IP it did good


I'll stick with it
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>>172246459
It would be if Ubi was more responsive about patches and updates.
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>>172246661
>Character with some of the fastest attacks in the game is too slow
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>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GEAR SCORE REVENGE BUILDS REEEEEEEEE

How about you don't gang up on the people with 108 gear score yah plebs?
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>>172246754
You literally get revenge in a couple of attacks 1v1 with a revenge build you turbo tard
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>>172246194
>implying this wasn't an accident
I've feinted and tried to sideheavy, and accidentally parried orochi warden zones too, but I won't pretend I'm good by posting a shitty slowmotion out of those moments
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>>172246818
nu-chiv is even worse than for honor
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>>172246754
I mean if you don't have a character that can shutdown rev (lb, valk, etc) then all it takes is at minimum five blocks even in a 1v1 before they get it.

I play valk to do just that.
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>>172246661
you can get sprint gear
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Why is the lock on system so fucking retarded?
>Get into a 3v2 dogpile in elimination
>kill my guy making it 2v2
>try to lock on the guy that's poking my asshole
>nah man did you mean to lock onto that other guy whose out of your attack range?
>unlock
>relock on the same guy a mile away instead of the guy poking me
>repeat until I die

Thanks
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>>172247136
I mean heavies feels slower
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>>172246690
>only 1 1v1 mode
>all but two modes have powerups and feats
>gearscore
>can unlock and run away
>no throw
>no oki
>no jumping
>no high-low game
>no combos
>environmental hazards beyond ring outs

It would be better if ubisoft patched it but it still wouldn't be a fighting game
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>>172247234
All it takes is a dedicated core group of fans (Smash Bros) to really make it a competitive 1v1 but that's an argument for another thread.
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>>172247210
Target switch has actually helped me with that scenario especially when I'm forced by orders to play skirmish otherwise known as clusterfuck mode.
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>>172247234
it just needs some balancing + a leaver penalty and this could be a REALLY enjoyable game
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>>172247550
Smash isn't competitive (the same 3 people always win) and still not a fighting game.
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>>172246818
N-nani?
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Haven't played for a week. So is the patch live right now or is it tomorrow?
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>>172249183
funny story about that
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>>172249183
There is no announced downloadable patch. We've only had a server-side patch to improve connectivity.
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>ctrl f
>zero signs of lewdkeeper
holy shit did he actually get banned?
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>>172249980
Moved to reddit like week 1 after not getting enough attention dude
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>>172249980
He was range-banned the first time, and he immediately toned down his antics. He's around, but he's keeping a lower profile.
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>>172249980
Who is Lewdkeeper?
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Just letting you all know I had a serious talk with Femwarden and we're in a committed relationship now so I would appreciate it if all of you stop playing her right this instant thanks
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>>172250753
A dude who got his kicks RPing as an exceptionally lewd Peacekeeper during duels. Literally, he would do nothing but talk dirty and be a power bottom; he wouldn't fight back or anything.

He became /fhg/'s biggest meme, achieving notoriety even on Reddit.
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>>172244960
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>>172249980
I'm still here. Just I contain my antics to the Knight Discord.
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>>172251082
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>>172251268
'Cuz he'll get banned again if he goes overboard.
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>>172251082
I recognize that style.

Are people still just throwing money at Razyda?
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>>172251330
Well the guy deserves it, he does good work.
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>>172250926
Interesting. Unfortunately I'm on PC, so I might run into him.

>>172251082
Gonna need the full image of this, anon.
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>>172250926

>He became /fhg/'s biggest meme, achieving notoriety even on Reddit.

Let's get our facts straight. He tried to avatarfag his way to popularity by roleplaying as a sexist stereotype of a slutty woman. /fhg/ told him to cut his cringey shit out, he flourished on the negative attention, and got banned.

lewd has since then retreated to the reddit FH discord, where he's gained a following by a mentally disturbed crowd of trans wanabees, prison-gay fags, and furries.
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>>172251330
Yeah unfortunately shit artists get money just for appealing to people's fetishes and jumping on memes.
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>Been avoiding some classes this whole time
>Give them a play to see what the fuss is about
>Warlord is actually fun and certainly more fun than Conq and Shug, peacekeeper is not amazing fun but it's fine for an assassin, which is a class type I otherwise completely neglect
Well shit, I guess it's time to be a scrub. Maybe I'll feel better when they're inevitably nerfed.
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>>172251381
I still don't see how posting literal in-game shots is avatarfagging but whatever. I still post here by the way.
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>>172251457
>Razyda
>Bad artist
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>>172251361
He does okay work. I'm glad he's pumping stuff out, but I'm more glad that I'm not the one paying for it.

But iunno, maybe i'm a porn snob.
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>>172251513
I started on Warlord because I like swords and shields, and I kinda feel bad about it. As long as you don't headbutt spam and use it sparingly, you're fine.

Fake your opponent out by dashing, the guard breaking their dodge. Easy top heavy or throw.
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It's good how lively /fhg/ is without lewdposting, though. Here I thought we'd just die or turn into those other general threads.
But I guess it's easy to have a good general when the game is so good, right? :^)
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>>172252020
I detect sarcasm.
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>>172252152
same desu
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>new patch doesnt come live today
...

Wow.
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>4v4 Elimination for a bit more XP and Steel to get Rep 3
>Opponent instantly runs away for buffs and ganks others
>Alt-F4
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>>172252152
>>172252220
I can relate.
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Yo I can't log in with uplay, are their servers down or something?
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>>172253140

I had to restart and re-enter my login info and it worked
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So you can't play Warden without the Vortex?

I want another character besides Kensei, I love everything about the Warden but I refuse to abuse that shit
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>>172253313
Yeah it worked just as the post was sent.
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>>172253353
>i don't want to use this effective and fair mixup tool because people might get upset
???
the balance in this game is trash anyways, half the roster is awful
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>>172253353
You could remove shoulder bash completely and Warden would still be top 5
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>>172253527
It's not effective and fair at all

I'm a honor fag and I want my opponent to actually fight back
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>>172253527
>fair

Nice bait

Just kidding it's actually aggressively terrible and I'm only responding because I think you might kill yourself if you don't get attention.
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>>172251513
It's actually hilariously frustrating going from playing a low tier character to a high tier, especially someone as piss easy as PK.
It feels like I'm just stealing kills I'd never be able to get on another character.

Same thing for Conq. I want to play Shugoki so badly but I feel like I need to be massively outplaying my opponent to kill them.
On Conqueror you can just bash>heavy all day and kill people from half health.
It doesn't feel right to win so easily.
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>>172253529
But then he'd just be Orochi, and Orochi is nowhere near top 5.
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>>172253529
he'd be a worse orochi with crush counter being his only good tool since his zone is super punishable

>>172253683
yes? other bashes you either just get hit by, or get slapped with fast attacks from almost every direction anyways

warden only has 2 viable attack directions, shoulder is the crux of his offense
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>>172253527
Warden vortex is incredibly dull.
I don't care if it's the strongest or shittiest move in the game, it's just boring as tits.
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>>172253786
he would be worse than orochi, in fact he would be, dare i say, same as kensei
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>>172253814
>he'd be a worse orochi

That's literally exactly the opposite of true

Please put some effort into your bait instead of just "lol i said the thing that is factually incorrect"
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>>172253827
what's exciting in this game to you, then

i agree that the game was a lot more fun before everyone knew basic fundamentals, so matchups were really wild sometimes, until they solidified into this stagnant defensive meta

>>172253956
what strengths does warden have aside from shoulder?

crush counter is decent but no different from a light parry or a wall throw

side light combo is okay, but doesn't lead into anything and is very slow at 36 frames

his zone is as fast as top light, but a free GB if blocked
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>>172253956
>That's literally exactly the opposite of true

That's literally exactly the opposite of true

Please put some effort into your bait instead of just "lol i said the thing that is factually incorrect"
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>>172253956
literally what?
>punishable on block zone vs not punishable
>15 dmg top light vs 30 dmg top lights
>no dash attacks vs dash attacks
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>>172254064
Are you 4 years old?
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>>172253956
>Orochi gets more damage off a top light for the same speed
>Orochi gets more damage than a crushing counter off a normal parry
>Orochi's zone doesn't get punished on block
>Somehow not better than a shoulderless Warden

Are you disabled
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>>172254197
but he is right you know
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>>172224916
because its used to dodging attacks anon, like a conq shield charge.
t. rep 3 kensei
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>ever since that faggoty tournament yesterday i'm seeing raiders and shugokis doing that gay unlock garbage every game

If only this game had a dev team that didn't just buff PK then abandon the game
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>>172254197
But it's true my dude
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>>172254386
b-but conq recovers so fast out of it he will get a free gb every time
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>>172250948
>you are ignorant
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>>172254060
A fast paced duel that display a wide varieties of moves, both for attacks and defense.
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>Ask a question about Warden
>Entire argument starts
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>>172254671
it's like a minefield in here
and to think that so many shitters are in this thread
it's saddening
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>>172254662
no character has this currently since blocking/parrying is so easy

36f lights are parried on reaction and any kind of mixup gets pushed
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>>172254671
I thought we'd be past the 'Warden is OP' meme by now but shows what I know.

We play a game with Conq and Warlord in it and yet people are still bitching about fucking Warden.
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>>172254671
what was your question btw?
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>closed beta
>man warden is fun
>retards: REEE NERF WARDEN
>open beta
>huh why does warden have more tools than everyone else
>retards: REEE NERF WARDEN
>launch
>can we buff everyone up to Warden?
>retards: REEE NERF WARDEN
this game is dying so fast it's not even funny
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>>172255185
no one in the betas asked for wardens nerfs
it was warlord, that had wardens shoulder, but faster
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>>172209280
>>172219661
The descriptions for 2v2 and 4v4 literally say you can group up with your teammates, it's intended
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>>172255185
Your autistic youtube tier comment gave me cancer
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>>172254985
Nah, I have pretty good duels with warden that don't rely on their shoulderbash to do anything in this game.
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>>172255697
you're so bad that you're challenged by a neutered kensei?
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>>172255323
>_____ gave me cancer
Your comment is infinitely more youtube tier than his
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>>172255826
I guess, and it was ton of fun, unlike "la creme de la creme high skill duels" that consist of the same shit over and over again.
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>been spending the last 30 minutes trying to find 1 (one) domination game without absurdly unbalanced teams

idk why i still play this game, it's not like it's going to get any better

>>172255860
>his
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>>172248276

It already is an enjoyable game held back by fenchies
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>>172256010
read >>172254060, that's how everyone feels about this game atm
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>>172255185
>Buff everyone else to Warden's level
Entire characters would need to be reworked and given their own move that has literally no risk to use.
Wardens shoulder does need a nerf
>You can cancel out of the shoulder to counter the enemies counter
>Not every character is fast enough to interrupt the shoulder with a light
>You can be a fucking god and read 100% of the Wardens moves during the shoulder and not be able to punish him, if you dodge raw shoulder he can block and counter GBs instantly, and if you counter his GB it just sets you back to neutral
His shoulder is literally risk free to spam over and over again. Even if you read him perfectly he's not going to take a single hit
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>>172256130
>>It already is an enjoyable game

Maybe if you're an idiot or play a 108 top tier
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>>172255826
Kensei doesn't have a superior top parry, fast side lights that confirm a free hit, or a good zone attack though.

The only thing Kensei has going for him are wallbash free damage and dodge attacks.
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>>172256214
>that has literally no risk to use
you can't block during shoulder and you have to feint it on a prediction, you can't really react and feint unless you're extremely fast

you can just side dash attack or press a light and odds are, unless the warden expected it, he'll get hit
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>>172256213
I have and I don't see what it has anything to do with what I said.
I said I find shoulderbash-centric wardens boring as fuck, you asked what I like in this game and I told you, and then you just called me bad.
That's the entire conversation we had so far.
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>>172256323

maddie cuz baddie
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>>172256352

Warden mains complaining about anything are so fucking disgusting. How do you even live with yourself
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>>172256325
>fast side lights
36f is not fast in this game

"good" zone attack is also arguable, you really just mean "usable" since the rest of the cast either has a broken one(PK/orochi) or borderline useless one
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>>172256352
>you can just side dash attack or press a light and odds are, unless the warden expected it, he'll get hit
This is a complete and total lie. I have NEVER once hit a fucking Warden after dodging his shoulder because they all immediately block
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>>172254060
>>172256213
This is how I feel about every competitive game tdh.
They're really fun when no one knows how to play but once the game calcifies into a meta it gets boring.

The internet has ruined competition because everyone can just look up how to play well.
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>>172256325
Warden doesn't have fast side lights either They're faster than Kensei's, but thats not because his is quick, it's because Ken is fucked.

And Ken's zone is decently useful for hyperarmor bullshit. It's a good way to confirm a kill shot against someone: tank the hit, cancel, GB.
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>>172256680
this isn't true

if a warden does not cancel the shoulder(cannot be done on reaction), a side dash attack will hit him every time

here's an example where a feinted shoulder was necessary to avoid being punished
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>>172200902
There are other games with console versions that manage regular updates.

Honestly, I think it's more they've cashed out because they know the games unsustainable with all the network issues people get.

Season passes probably sold enough that they will do the bare minimum while adding the 6 new characters and then call it a day.
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>>172256863
So your solution to Warden is to just be playing one of the three characters who can to dash attacks, and even then he can cancel out of it to block/parry that?
>B-but he has to predict it!
You can literally see him cancel it during the Orochi's dash in the webm you just posted
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>>172256863
That is clearly an on-reaction cancel.
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>>172257094
You have never played warden. You can't cancel except in the starting frames.
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>>172257094
I'm not the guy you're responding to, but any character with a 500ms attack can light the Warden for similar results. That's every character except Raider, Conq, and Shugoki, and Conq can just fullstance the damage anyway so who cares.

Also, feinting the shoulder isn't instant. You think you can see him cancel it mid dash, but I can promise you he feinted the bash the instant he started it. The indicator shows when the Warden is out of the bash and can act freely, not when they cancelled.
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>>172257230
>>172257094
Feel free to try it yourself, see if you can cancel THAT late into shoulder startup.
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>>172257242
You literally just posted a webm of him canceling as the Orochi is dodging. Look at your webm frame by frame. The Orochi is dodging, and the attack indicator is already on the screen before you even canceled out of the shoulder
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Can we just get some fucking input-reading overlay so we can see the exact timing of what the fuck people are doing and when they're hitting buttons?
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>>172257474
You input the cancel at the start. Cancels aren't instant, it plays the entire startup THEN cancels. It's just like feinting.
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>>172257431
>any character with a 500ms attack can light the Warden for similar results
So that just leaves a shit ton of the characters with literally no solution to the vortex, that cannot be punished once he starts it.
That's broken as shit, you have to admit that
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>>172257626
Are you dumb

Almost every character has a 500ms attack. It's even stated in the post that you're replying to that only 3 don't.
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>>172257590
>can we get [basic quality of life improvement]

No
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>>172257802
Kensei's side light is THAT bad? Is there any confirmation of that? That's just a heavy attack.
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>>172257802
And tell me exactly how you're meant to counter the shoulder as one of those three characters.
Or how you punish the shoulder against a turtling Warden who only waits to parry and use the shoulder that cannot be punished once he charges it
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>>172256323

Its a fun game thats what im saying
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>>172257959
DO YOU UNDERSTAND OUR PAIN NOW
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>>172257959
All these numbers are correct, except arguably Ken's Zone, which hits faster if you unlock and hit them with the initial backswing.

There are multiple recordings of this. If you want to know how many frames something is, it's 3 frames per 100ms on console, and twice that on PC.

>>172258013
Conq can full stance and eat the lights to get out of it. Literally in the post you initially replied to. Raider and Shug are forced to either guess or roll to disengage.

See, now you're complaining about the turtle meta, which has nothing to do with Warden. I'm pretty sure that getting parried>side lights>charge still allows time for 500ms attacks to land, but even if they don't it totally lets you roll away.
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>>172258013
>conq
Full immunity
>Shugo
Immunity to charge if hyperarmor is up, but wardden destroys Shugo hard, it's a bad matchup in every way because of Warden's doublehit lights.
>raider
Dodgegrab, if they go for the full charge you have them and if they go for the grab you cancel. if they cancel, they're grabbed.
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>>172257959
Kensei's side dash attack is a light. The only thing it has going for it is that it attacks from the opposite direction Kensei is dashing. It and Nobushi's side-dash heavy are the only attacks in the game that do this.
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>>172258305
Except the turtle meta GREATLY benefits characters like Warden and Warlord who gain much more from it than anyone else
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>>172258607
Dumbass. Warlord and Conq are both S+ because of their defensive options.
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>>172258607
The turtle meta benefits everyone who turtles my dude. You bitch about fighting a turtling Warden because you can get parried and then put into the danger zone, but you can avoid that by also turtling.

Raider and Lawbringer can kill characters in three or four light parries. Are they OP?
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>this shitter who's mad about vortex getting fucked at every turn
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>>172256604
Faster lights than Kensei's by a wide margin, but that can be said for pretty much any hero.
Kensei's side lights are so slow they're only marginally faster than his heavies, with a worse punishment for being parried.

Warden's zone is good.
It's the third fastest in the game and has very little tell with the indicator or animation
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>>172258790
My point was Warden and Warlord get more out of turtling than anyone else
>Warden turtles, he gets to start his shoulder vortex
>Warlord turtles, he gets a free GB to charge you off the map
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>>172257590
What do you think this is, some sort of fighting game?
This is an action game, anon.
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>>172259065
>PK parries you, and she gets one of the biggest punishes in the game if she can wallbang you
>Shugoki, Lawbringer, or Raider parry you and there's a hazard behind you, you're dead
>Shugoki parries you, and he gets to literally regain health if there's a wall nearby
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>>172259034
Warden's zone is also punishable on block, which makes it an actual risk instead of Orochi's which is unpunishable on block and only a heavy parry or Peacekeeper's which is one of the fastest attacks in the game, does a bar of damage, is unpunishable on block, and is allegedly a heavy parry even though I've seen PKs get out of followup guardbreaks.
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>7 foot tall female raider will never jerk me off

What's the most painful suicide method
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>>172259596
>What's the most painful suicide method

Probably getting jerked off by a 7 foot tall female raider. Maybe try that.
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>>172259596
>what's the most painful suicide method
Strapping a bucket full of starving rats to your stomach.
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>>172259596
>No tall, self-conscious female Lawbringer.
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>>172259402
Not sure that makes Warden's Zone bad, just that Orochi and PK's are stupidly strong.
GB off of block is pretty stupid though, but that just makes it high risk high reward
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>>172259596
>What's the most painful suicide method
Growing old with your face glued to a glowy plate while longing for things you can't have.
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>>172259402
Its funny to watch shitter warden's brains meltdown after you've countered a few zones, they'll sit in neutral doing a little dance contemplating tossing another. Some orochis will do the same but they actually can get out unlike wardens. As for those dirty PKs those fuckers get off free, often time when I get a lucky zone parry they are out of GB range and if I do land it they can counter on top of all their other bs.
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>>172260297
>Lawbringer.

Feel free to decapitate yourself
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>>172260570
Yeah it's really nice to see, even as a warden.
People use that zone as such a crutch, I used to do the same.
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>>172260665
Fem Shugoki would just be fat and Fem Warlord would be the same as Fem Raider.

Fem LB at least has some potential as a tall, awkward. adorable ladyknight.
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>>172260882

I'm going to insist you end your own life to increase the overall quality of the human race.
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>>172260970
I don't even play Lawbringer. I just like Ladyknights.
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>>172260665
>not wanting a tall, soft-spoken Latin gf with giant pillowtits to sink into after a long day of masacring inferior cultures
What kind of retarded homo are you
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>>172261170
lol virgin
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>>172261170
I'm glad someone else understands.
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>>172257452
You can cancel at any time if you hold the charge.

It's also pretty liberal at letting you cancel it into quite a few frames of the initial shoulder bash.
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>>172261574
>holding the charge
That's functionally no different than canceling it, only now they can easily GB you.
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>>172261236
>he's never had a gf with big tits that wasn't morbidly obese and 5"0'
Wow. What a sad existence.
I would almost understand why you would shit on superior taste if you've never experienced such pleasure. Almost.
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>>172261715
>easily
>unless the goddamn warden releases at just right time (which is any fucking MILISECOND)
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>>172262005

No I'm just 100% sure your personally causes all vaginas in a 5 mile radius to instinctively dry up
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>>172261439
>wide shoulders
>equally wide hips
>everything else
THIKK
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>>172262208
>Pixie cut
>Dat face
>Nylon/stocking top thing
>cute feet
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>>172262147
And you're just a pussyslayin stud, amirite?
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>>172262342
>phoneposter

lmao
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>>172238813
why does the guy with a pole hammer use it to crush a metal helmet instead of using and axe blade that would deflect off the shape of the helm?
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>>172262325
Face is meh 7/10 and the cut/clothes are something anyone could buy/do.
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>>172192412
an Arab
or native American
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>>172245246
You definately aren't an experience law player because you haven't gone against opponents who figured out all you need to do is backstep if law is going for bait parry on an exhausted opponent with his unblockable.

Legit even his parry bait wont work because law feints mid swing so you will never be able to grab an opponent in time before he back dashes and dodges the entire 50/50.
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>>172262615
>native american
>quebecois developer/publisher

Canadian atrocities against the natives makes the US' look like a warm hug. They practically erased them from history and continue pretending they don't exist.
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>>172262396
>he has access to a PC in the middle of a week
How does it feel to fall for the NEET meme? I'm sure your "pursuit of creative interests" at the cost of your parents money and respect is working out swell.

At the very least you would have to working some limp dicked desk job to have access to a PC at this time.
And if you're on 4chan that would mean you're liable to be fired by some fat cunt in HR for browsing porn/hate websites on company time.
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>>172261170
"Pillowy" tits are the centerpiece to a meaningful existence.
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>>172262509
What do you consider a 10/10 face, then?

>the cut/clothes are something anyone could buy/do
But she wears them well, though. Not everyone can do that.
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>>172262936
>being this upset someone made fun of you for being a smelly dumb phoneposter

Yes anon I'm sure you have so many important things you're doing that would require you can't be near a computer but still have time to shitpost on a chinese cartoon website about a trash pseudo-moba by Ubisoft
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>>172262042
>guy is charging and waiting an action to cancel it
>implying he has the capacity to differentiate movements and won't always cancel
Just the input to cancel a charged bash is finicky enough.
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>Daily challenge is for brawl against ai
>Get matched against a Lawbringer that reads my inputs and counters every GB
What did I do to deserve this?
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>Teammate completely sperging out in chat because enemy Valk keeps sweeping him
I feel him tho this was an especially annoying specimen. Whenever any other Valk I ever fought would do the sweep, they did another light and THEN sweeped. From what I know of her she should have to do 2 lights though, dunno. (Literally) fell for it every fucking time at first. I kinda want to play one now because annoying people is fun but Shugoki does the job as well.
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>>172264197
sweep is infuriating because it feels so shitty and random and she doesn't need to hit you and can do retarded unblockable mixups

I've gotten hit by sweep
>after deflecting with every assassin
>while dodging it (????)
>after hitting valk out of the start up
>my own team's valk
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>>172261715
if warden keeps doing that
just roll straight away from the charge once warden releases it and you get a free gb
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>>172243172
>>172243302
4u
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>Get legged in the first few seconds of the 5th round of Elimination
>Realize that without me to carry my team is fucked
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>>172262978
cowtits are disgusting
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>>172264604
>caring about the outcome of a match after you lag out
Why? Unless you were playing with friends there's not much reason to cry over spilled milk onto Ubi's servers.
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>>172264197
I fucking hate Valk because my revenge is literally useless in 4v4 with her on the enemy team
>Getting ganked
>Pop my revenge
>SHIELD BASH SHIELD BASH SHIELD BASH
>Literally cannot target anyone else besides the Valk if I want to be able to accurately dodge her tracking shield bash bullshit
Seriously, this shit is so fucking infuriating
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>>172263176
>implying there's such a thing as a 10/10 face
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>>172243302
The point is the follow-up.
Chink swords are only good for peasant-killing.
Thicker european swords with their superior steel are better in every way.
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>>172243302
They can, but it heavily damage the blade to the point it break after two or three bullets.
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>Lost a close, fun match of Dominion
>My game crashes after I die, making it look like I ragequit after the enemy team said "gg"
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>>172265540
mmmm...
thick.
european.
straight.
double edged.
swords!
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>>172247023
just because it wasnt done on reaction doesnt mean that it was done on accident. I parry pks zones all the time its just sometimes im wrong
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>>172244960
>obviously gbd too late
>still posts video
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Why does the duel mode favor rainy maps, and when are they bringing the viking maps back?

>>172264706
1v1 me
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>>172266838
32B and lower fit girls >>> cowtit sluts
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any comment from ubi about fixing getting D/Cd constantly? third time in a row i got kicked from skirmish at the very start
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PK is literally not even that strong
I parry them all the time on my rep 9 keinsei
literally just parry her shit and she is no problem

remember to git gud and stop being a shitter before you complain
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>playing elimination
>my entire team is people with no gear, I'm trying out a new character
>on the other team there's a rep 11 Orochi
>he has a max attack build
>revenge attack feat
>sharpen blade
>feat itself
>nothing but top lights and AoE
>he barely wins against us even with his bullshit
>"gg ez no re"
Roach holocaust when
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>>172225093
Why does every lawbringer absolutely suck at this game? Im not talking about the character here im talking about the players
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>>172267139
soon my brother
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>>172267091
>she just starts doing AoE and dashing away over and over again
>literally unpunishable
>"lol just get good scrubs"
PK falseflagger detected
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>>172267279
>Shitting on a much weaker hero than the one that you are using
>Expecting to seem impressive
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>>172267091
Pks not as braindead as conq and warlord but shes pretty much impossible to beat with another assassin.
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>>172267091
>dude just parry it
>400 ms attacks, the only ones in the entire game?
>lol just parry it my dude
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Man the Warden Hate Brigade is out in full force today huh
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>>172267436
no need to be upset

>>172267873
you can ignore these snowflake mains
in time they will learn to stop being trash
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>>172267436
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>>172267282
>>172267612
literally yes
if you are bad that's not my problem
I have like 90% wr vs pks
you just have to stop being bad
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5 decides my new main, got LAW at rep 3.
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>>172267962
Roach is one of the weakest characters in the game, there's no wonder the roach quit there was nothing he could do with his character
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>>172267204
>play against a Rep 7 Lawbringer
>is absolute shit but has insane gear and we have none
>wins and starts spamming emotes when he played Mario Kart against a bunch of grey gear scores while he has 108
>somebody mentions how retarded gear is
>"LOL MAD, U MAD BRO? GET GOOD LOL LAW IS THE WORST CHARACTER IN THE GAME YOU'RE BAD"
>"CRY MORE, GO PLAY DUEL SCRUBS IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE IT, GET FUCKED LOL"
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>>172267091
>t. shitter that never met a pk that using feints, mixups, zone-attack flickering techique etc
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>>172268123
I'm sure you do.
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>>172268257
Law mains are the most cancerous players in the game. Just sit and try to ledge you all game and complain the entire time when their gimmicks dont work and if they work once you can just feel the autistic smile behind the screen
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>>172268246
ANOTHER 3 REPS OF LAW
[PATRIOTIC MUSIC PLAYS]
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>>172262396
>not having stuff to do
lmaoing at ur life
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>>172187132
Well people have different ideas of fun. Like you and me for example. You say running around and honorfagging is fun. Whereas for me losing again and again and again and again and again is not fun whatsoever.
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>>172268246
Warden. The salt must flow.
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>>172268437
hey, if you like being trash, more power to you

I am here parrying PKs left and right
PK is mid tier at best. A scrub killer, like you
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>>172268705
Goddamnit. Rep 3 here I come.
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>>172268754
>pk
>mid tier
If your going to argue that shes not good than how can others be good?
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>>172267962
I'm not even mad at the fact that Warden is one of the strongest characters in the game, it's just that whenever you say he's got better tools than XYZ characters, Warden mains always jump to say that Warden isn't as strong as people think.

Just own it, the same way I own that I play a weak character and still acknowledge his strengths.
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ded
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>>172268817
Don't act like Warden isn't fun you lawshitter
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>>172268705
>>172268817
I've done it. Enjoy your new job as overseer of the salt mines, anon.
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I'm going back to Ken, Warden was fun to Rep 4 and his aesthetics are top tier but I still get way better results and more fun with Ken
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>>172268562
Looks like somebody was flipped over a ledge
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>>172268868
>it's just that whenever you say he's got better tools than XYZ characters
this has been true since closed beta, what's your point

if every character had as many tools as warden without being broken or useless, the game would be a lot less shit

also, you're the one replying to a random webm with a complaint about the character being used, why are anti-warden people so ready to blame the character for all of their shortcoming?
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>>172268754
>PK main tries to aggressively falseflag
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>>172268562
This. As somebody that has like 200 hours playing Lawbringer, everyone else that uses this character is either a massive turtley fuck that never takes a risk or is an autismo that has macros for perfect soft feints and an unlocked light off of shove. I try to use him in a different way and just end up losing to some other Lawbringer in the mirror match that never does anything.
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>>172268674
Sounds to me like you're having a lot more nofun than fun, anon.
You can change that if you're willing to adjust your perspective.
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>>172269126
>>172268863
>>172268437
>>172268373
>>172267612
>>172267091
how do you guys not remember the retarded kensei that posted this 3-2 weeks ago and got btfo in a 1v1 and got banned from everything
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>>172269056
No never, but I have had the misfortune of watching others get finally flipped over.

Lawbringers gimmicks are as much of a crutch for law players as pks backdash is for pk players.
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>>172269095
I'm saying Warden mains are too sensitive about how strong their character actually is, and will defend every move in his arsenal swearing up and down that he's not as strong as people say.

I'm replying to the guy posting a femwarden telling people to not be such special snowflakes about their weaker main.

>anti-warden people so ready to blame the character for all of their shortcoming?
Because Wardens are ready to blame everyone but themselves.
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>>172269338
There is literally no real crutch for law players.

If someone gets flipped over a ledge, it's almost certainly that player's fault.

If someone dies because of being flipped around, then it's not really a crutch for law, because all he gets is assist points. Not to mention, you can get out of the "endless" cycle of being flipped.

Being charged off a ledge while you're fighting is the only thing I would dare call a crutch, and many times, you can see it coming.
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>>172270084
see >>172255185

there is a balance problem and everyone knows it, you bitching about warden is like the retards in this thread saying "lol just parry pk and u win"
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>>172270084
>every single thread
>warden is op
>every single thread
>say multiple times what to do in each situation and how to counter it
>warden is op
>next thread
repeat

i stopped replying to this shit
i tried to help you people but you refuse to listen
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>>172270308
>>say multiple times what to do in each situation and how to counter it
Please tell me how to counter Warden as Shugoki. I would love to hear how, considering all Wardens fucking do is GB me once to get rid of my armor then vortex all they fucking want until my armor is back, and then GB me again to repeat
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>>172270752
search the archive
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>Playing elimination
>Last one alive on the enemy team is an Orochi
>My team has just me and one other guy alive, so it's 2v1
>Rather than take his chances fighting us he spends the entire round just running around the map until the time runs out
What the fuck goes through these peoples minds that they willingly take the loss without even trying?
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>>172270752
press light as soon as the shoulder launches and confirm into headbutt, follow with pressure while his stam is down, you know, basic shugoki play

shoulder is a just a push move that can be feinted, it's not very complex unless your reaction time is over 400ms or something
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>>172270826
No, you tell me right now because as far as I can see there is literally no fucking counter to Warden as Shugoki
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>>172270901
That is your brain on Autism (Assassins)
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>>172268630
>>172263178
>>
god i fucking hate fighting conq

impossible to ever fucking touch one
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>>172270968
Shugoki's lights are literally too slow to stop the shoulder, what about this are you not understanding?
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>>172271801
...shugoki has hyperarmor, which stops the shoulder by itself, dude
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>>172268257
>>172268562
Lawbringers are pure fucking cancer, they actually try ledging more than fucking Warlords
>Playing elimination on Forest
>Enemy team has two Lawbringers
>They end up being the last ones alive on their team
>They both run for the bridge and just emote on it refusing to leave
This shit happens every single time there's a Lawbringer in elimination
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>>172271950
Read what he said, they guardbreak him to remove the hyperarmor and THEN vortex him to oblivion.
>>
>Fight a LB
>Run out of stamina
>Just turtle forever because he keeps using bashes to keep my stamina down but can't get any damage off of it

I feel bad but like what the fuck was I supposed to do? Shove spam kept me exhausted, so all I could do was stand there and tech GBs until he either exhausted himself or tried to attack so I could parry.
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>>172271950
Did you not read my post at all? Since reading is super hard I'll post it again for you >>172270752
>considering all Wardens fucking do is GB me once to get rid of my armor then vortex all they fucking want until my armor is back, and then GB me again to repeat
My hyperarmor means NOTHING when all it takes is a single GB attempt to get rid of it. Then nothing I can do will stop the vortex, and once I get the armor back they just GB me again.

Shugoki having hyperarmor that goes away after a single GB attempt is not a counter to Wardens shoulder, because no warden is retarded enough to shoulder into my armor
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>>172272036
You have as much chance as you do against any other class with a push. Warlord and Conq also fuck your shit, and Law is actually good in a matchup against you, LAW.
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>>172272036
okay, then you pick one the second you see shoulder start up:

>light attack
>dodge
>wait to tech the GB

you have a 66% chance of being right and escaping with no damage being dealt

>>172272154
yes, you've posted this several times over the last couple days, if you're completely incapable of pressing a light attack to stop someone from obviously going for the GB, then you deal with the mixup like everyone else, it's not hard
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I know Orochi is considered to be subpar, but I swear to fucking God I can never parry their top lights. Usually I just end up getting hit because they a) toss out lights at random or b) will attack into my top guard and get two free fucking hits because I was about to do something aggressive.
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>>172268909
Why are these attacks fast? WHY AM I SO FAST?
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>>172272234
>Dude the counter to the vortex is to NEVER let a Warden touch you, it's that simple!
You've also posted this several times, and that's not a fucking counter. It's unrealistic to expect me to not be touched a single time in a fight.
>light attack
Can't do that because my lights are literally too slow
>dodge
This means nothing if he canceled into a GB, even if he didn't he's just going to vortex again, because I cannot stop him with a light
>Wait to tech the GB
Even if I do tech the GB, that does not stop him from doing it again, and again, and again until I guess wrong.

Why are Warden mains so fucking autistic with their theory dueling?
>Dude just light attack every GB attempt
Two can theory duel, what happens when a Warden feints an attack just to GB me? Or am I meant to know every single move he makes before he makes it?
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>>172272598
this post is why i stopped responding to these retards
you try and help them and they just respond in a same way every single time
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>>172272598
>don't get hit by this mixup where you have a 66% chance of getting out and can start your own offense
>lol impossible!!!!!!
pls go
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>>172272747
You aren't helping, you're making pathetic excuses to try to pretend Warden isn't overpowered and some characters have NO counter to him
>Dude just light attack Warden's attempt to GB shugoki every single time, as long as you never get touched you're good!
>What happens if he feints attacks just to GB me?
>SEE THIS IS WHY I STOP REPLYING, WARDEN IS BALANCED
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>>172272949
>>172272747
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>>172272949
Shugoki can't do anything against any class with a push. We already knew that. He loses to fucking Law.
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>>172272817
Again, you're not actually reading what I'm saying. I'm complaining that as Shugoki, I have no way to stop the vortex once my hyperarmor is gone. Your "solution" to this is expecting me to never get hit once during the fight. This is an unrealistic expectation and you know it, but you're desperate to pretend Warden vs Shugoki isn't a blindly one sided fight
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Goddamn I love how my conk looks.
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>>172273285
You mean like garbage?
>>
>Pick Berzerker
>Duel opponent is a high Rep PK
>Pick Warden
>Duel opponent is a No-Rep Lawbringer

Why does this keep happening
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>>172273184
he can armor the push
>but they GB me!
press a light and the GB bounces off

>>172273238
>>172272234
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>>172273464
Wow it's like you didn't read what I'm saying purposefully, yet again.

Your solution is to "not let him touch you." by stopping the GB with a light attack. Now my question to you is what do I do when Warden feints an attack just to GB me to get rid of my armor?

This is a serious question, so don't try dodging it. I would love to counter Wardens as Shugoki, but it's just not possible as far as I can tell because I get touched once and I cannot stop their shoulder.
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>>172273423
>oversized pauldrons
>helm ornament
>actual gold on his combat equipment
Poor conk best conk
Slave conk even better conk
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>>172273423
>kettlehelm
>ornament
>shitty gold weapon and shield
0/10 kys dindu
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>>172273981
>>172274030
>They aren't Paladins
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How do I get gud with nobushi? Cant seem to figure it out.
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My beef with warden is that he can do everything a tad too well.
I don't think he need a nerf, just some tweaking.
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>>172274109
>conscripted convict
>paladin
Pick one
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>>172274140
Everything links into everything else. You can chain things with Hidden Stance and dashes.
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>>172274109
>nigger
>paladin
???
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>>172274195
WAS a convict, but eventually rose to prominence.
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>>172274285
Mine is white you retard
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>>172273850
literally just light attack their feint
are you this retarded to not figure it out?
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>>172274502
all criminals are niggers
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>>172274525
So I'm meant to assume every single attack is a feint and blindly attack it? You're giving me advice that would literally get me destroyed in any fight, you do realize this right?
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>"orochi and PK zone aren't broken u just have to learn to counter it :)"

i feel my blood pressure rising

good fucking god i just detest these people
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>>172274806
jesus crist you are retarded
i am literally done with people like you
this general was a mistake

and so you know
shugoki is actually a favorable matchup vs warden
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>>172274195
>>172274713
>Implying my glorious Paladin used to be a convict
I don't bitch at all the Wardens RPing the Dragonknight or the Lawbringers RPing Chaos Chosen
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>>172275065
>Shugoki is a favorable matchup against Warden
>If you get touched a single time and lose your hyperarmor you literally cannot stop Warden from vortexing to his hearts content
Warden mains were a mistake. In all seriousness, just leave and never post again. It's goddamn pathetic that you're so afraid to admit Warden is overpowered, at the very least in a matchup against Shugoki
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>>172274403
>convict
>rising to prominence
>in a medieval society no less
Name one of those irl.
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>>172273850
>how do i ever go on the offense if i just sit there and let my enemy go on the offense, wow what a broken character
lol
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>>172275206
he is not
if you don't even know half of what your character can do, it's not my problem
i don't even play shugoki but i know more than you do about him
so please shut up with your retarded crying
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Good god I met the most turtling PK ever.
Wouldn't do jack fucking shit but her zone and if I turtle back she'd just approach slowly and then throw a light in a random direction to follow up with her zone.
I was about to break my keyboard in half with the frustration building up
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>>172274195
>implying Paladins don't come from the church
>the church is refuge for the poor and downtrodden
>implying a Paladin couldn't be a reformed convict formerly from the dredges of society
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>>172275336
>Go on the offense
>Get parried
>Warden removes my armor
>Vortex all he wants because I can't stop it
There's no good solution as a Shugoki against Warden.
>>172275396
He is. Shugoki is much slower, granted he has more health. But if I get touched a single time I'm forced to play a guessing game to avoid damage because I literally cannot stop Warden's shoulder because Shugoki's lights are too slow
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>>172275493
Nigger that aint no paladin, that's just one of the peons they threw in with the rest of the poor/sick/downtrodden to be lowly footsoldier bodyshields for the real paladins, (Nobles)
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>>172275270
name a video game.
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>>172275569
like i said, if you have no idea how to play your own character i can't help you
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>>172275569
>>Go on the offense
>>Get parried
welcome to for honor

oh wait, you have a character with a push? you now have a mixup, congrats
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what does turtling mean?
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>>172275698
never attacking and waiting for a parry
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>>172275698
Waiting for the other person to attack/make the first move & then counter-attacking.
Most literal form are people who do nothing but fish for parries.
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>>172275692
>Lalalala I can't hear you ur bad git gud
Are you a PK main by any chance?
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>>172275698
being overly, excessively, or exclusively-defensive

like a turtle hiding it its shell
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>>172272293
Being anything but lawbringer must feel that way.
That said his overhead light and zone are lightening. though if they block the zone it's a free GB for them if they're not tards, so be careful with that.
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>>172275692
You can't help me because there's no way to counter Warden.
>Dude there's totally a way I know of, but I'm not gonna say it
This is literally "my dad works for nintendo tier"
>>172275696
Other than abusing Shugokis charge over and over I don't see his mix ups.
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>>172275482
Any turtling Roach/PK/Warden/Warlord is absolute cancer. Conq too of course

I think it might really just be a good idea to leave a lot of these matches. I am a bit of a masochist and I tend to endure the matchup, viewing it as a challenge and an opportunity to grow and get better. What ends up happening is "oh they zone attacked me again. oh they just dodge everything. oh they keep using the flicker bullshit. oh they keep just spamming rapidfire lights at random. zone attack again." and I end up just pissed off. I want to kill them that much more so I can execute them or some shit and win, but that is never guaranteed. The amount of effort I have to put in playing as raider or lawbringer to break through their fucking turtle shit is ludicrous compared to LMAO 500MS LIGHTS AND ZONES
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>>172275946
But, conk can only bash or turtle.
WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM US?!
>>
Dark Souls gets a DLC tomorrow

Keep this in mind when the dev stream has a lot of nice things in it. Believe it when you see it.

Playerbase goes down 30% on all platforms tomorrow regardless.
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>>172275886
yeah, obv

>>172275906
>light attck gb
>light attack feints
>light attack charge
>heavy charge into gb attempt
>roll away if you lose armor
>do your own mix up

stop posting until you learn the game
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>>172276000
I want you to stop playing that class until they make him both fun and balanced.

I mean shit dude if you flub your fucking bashes I should at least get a goddamn light attack or gb on you but NOOOOOO CAN'T EVEN GET A FUCKING LIGHT

Fucking Conqs
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>>172275803
>>172275834
>>172275889
Oh. So it's just like that LB I fought a while ago. Had to resort to a lot of feints and GBs to at least damage him.
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>>172275065
Holy fuck dude, just stop posting.
You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>172275065
Holy fuck dude, just stop posting.
You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>172276204
>>172276257
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XWomD6TazQ
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>>172276107
Dash back and block/parry the conq's RT spam.
You're welcome.
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>>172276204
i'm not this guy but i need to point out that nothing could ever be more embarrassing than this posting, anon
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>>172276204
Holy fuck dude, just stop posting.
You're embarrassing yourself.
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>>172276317
bash has a lock on
if you dodge too early it will lock onto you
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>>172276204
>>172276257
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>>172276449
(don't dodge too early)
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>>172276317
>dash back
>his dash shield bash hits me anyway albeit putting me out of range of his light
>end up on the end of a bash -> heavy combo
>dodge the bash but he recovers too quickly for me to punish

Wow thanks for the help Senpai-sama!
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>>172276204
>>172276257
>The absolute shanty town of this retard.
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>>172276071
>Light attack GB
>Light attack feints
These imply that I have the best reaction speed in the world and will NEVER miss a single time. No one is perfect to the point to where they never miss once.
>Charge attacks
This only works if the other person doesn't roll out of the way and costs a shit ton of stamina
>roll away if you lose armor
Wow so my counter is to literally run and hide if I get touched once? Great advice!

You're acting as if it's simple to not get touched once in a fight against a Warden. Because if I do get touched once, I can't do anything to stop the vortex
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>>172276058
the DLC is already out and it's disappointing, what are you on about
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>>172276928
i will say it again
stop being retarded and learn your class

>Charge attacks
you can get a free heavy if he tries to shoulder into gb

also no one fights as shugi straight up
his strongest thing is his armor and unlock mixups
if you can't do those, then switch characters

if you want an actual unwinnable matchup try conq v warden
that's 90-10 matchup in conq favor
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Jesus fuck, Valkyrie is tall. Is she actually the tallest character in the game?
>>
>>172276995
thought it was tomorrow

but even if i'm wrong about the date it doesn't change a lick of it
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>people repping the teutonic knights in this game
>neglecting the fact that the teutons lost to a bunch of slavshit serfs armed with farming equipment TWICE
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>>172277281
Again, every single thing your saying applies BEFORE he removes my hyperarmor, which takes a single GB or attack, to remove.

Your entire solution to avoiding the vortex that Shug is too slow to interrupt is "dude don't get hit a single time ever lmao"
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>>172277382
Unfortunately no, shug & law are a little bit bigger.
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>>172276928
>These imply that I have the best reaction speed in the world and will NEVER miss a single time.
Not that anon and this will be the first and last time I reply to you but that's the same exact thing all the shitters say when complaining about Warden.
>He always blocks!
>He always parries!
>He always dodges!
>He always cancels perfectly!
>He always techs my guardbreak!
>He never makes a mistake and always lands every attack!
There's no denying he's top-tier but all the senseless bitching just gets tiring.
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>>172278485
do i have to spell it out for you?
because you are the most retarded person i had the chance to interact with today
when he gbs you and you were retarded enough to allow it
once you counter it he gets pushed back
i wonder what an abled person would do in this time to avoid being hit? hmmmmm..... if there only was a way
to, i don't know, dash back? roll away??
i just don't know man
there is literally no way in this game to disengage from fighting
literally no way
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>>172277382

Tallest female
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>>172278570
no dude this 1/3 chance of the Warden guessing exactly what I'll do next is impossible to beat, ubisoft seriously needs to get a clue
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>>172275642
>he was meant to be canon fodder for nobles
>performes above and beyond his task and completely outstrips his "superiors" despite being under equipped
I like this better than being a fancy shmancy paladin anyways.
Getting to where you are based on raw fuckin merit.
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How would YOU flesh out For Honor lore?
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new thread when?
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>>172278857
>DUDE NEVER GET HIT LMAO
>Okay, what happens if he manages to touch me once during the entire fight, which is extremely fucking likely?
>JUST RUN LMAO
Warden mains are fucking pathetic. Your entire "strategy" for me to follow is to never get hit, and if I do get hit run
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>>172279450
Whenever you want, my man.
Just do it yourself.
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>Play Warlord in elimination
>Entire team shits the bed
>It's 1v3 now
>Lead all three of them to a ledge
>Ledge them one by one
>This happens several rounds in a row
At what point do they stop following me like retards?
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>>172279538
you are a lost cause
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here:

>>172279673
>>172279673
>>172279673
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>>172278869
She's taller than most of the males, fampai.
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>>172279739
That's literally what you've been saying. Don't get hit once, and if you do run
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>>172271987
Two Lawbros back to back on a bridge, holding off an unspeakable horde of savages and weebs.
This is what LB mains actually believe.
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>>172279296
lrl he'd be killed for showing them up/hurting their egos.
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>>172274268
I seem to have an issue pushing my right stick down to do hidden stance. Is it my controller? Or is the game just really specific, like it has to be exactly "down" or it wont activate hidden stance?
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>>172281395
It must be straight down to activate Hidden Stance. It can be a little finicky, what with deadzones and all.
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