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last chance: >>172080089
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first for vlad
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Axed the TWW multiplayer pastebin because it is ludicrously outdated by this point.
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>>172161610
>4 days
>17 hours
>50 minutes
>can't wait
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>Announcement trailer hasn't even dropped yet
>Already hyped

This wait is going to be painful
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>>172161717
Dedicating two stacks to work together is a pretty big waste.

>>172161543
Sure you can. There are just more variables.
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TZEENTCH'S MANY GLORIES
NURGLE'S PESTILENT GLORY
KHORNE'S BLOODY GLORY
SLAANESH'S PERVERSE GLORY
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To the provinces!
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>>172161610
MEDIEVAL KINGDOMS 1212 WHEN
ANCIENT EMPIRES WHEN
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>>172162012
Soon(tm)
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>>172162157
Two stacks together should be the default vamp modus operandi though, because stacks are cheap and you have such a strong ecomony.
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>>172162460
But two stacks seperately can take two seperate provinces. And there is almost no circumstance in the game where one stack isn't all you'll need, until at least badlands bowl is complete and the stunties come for blood, or Chaos feels like being particularly effective once in a blue moon.
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So what's gonna be the inevitable pre-order race?
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>>172162728
Tilea
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>>172162728

Pontus
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>>172162706
There's seldom a need to take two provinces in the same turn.
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>>172162728
Lizardmen.
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>>172162728
Skaven
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What faction in any total war game gets you the most hyped up to play as them?

For me, it's the HRE in Medieval 2. The voice acting of the captains and shit somehow turns me into a fanatical zealot who will rage against any enemies who dare attack my glorious Reich, wiping out Denmark and Poland in the name of the Kaiser.
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>tfw scraping a Valiant Defeat with Volkmar and his 18 stack of t1 troops v 2 full stacks of mid tier + RoR filled Vamps

Managed to take Kemmler and Manlet down with us.
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Playing as Vampire Count (brown). Am I doing it right? Fucked up Dwarves, but now gonna sue for peace and prepare for next chaos invasion. Varg is at 22 settlements, and they're shitting on Empire right now. :S
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>>172163089

>tfw Disney, butthurt that nobody liked Phasma, killed the TR-8R meme in its cradle as revenge.
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>>172163732
How did they kill it?
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>>172162008
Did you censor her nipples?
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>>172163671
>conquer everywhere
Fuck off outta here
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>>172163089
I will see your head rest upon a top of a pike
OUTLANDER SCUM
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>>172163732
Was I supposed to like Phasma? She's not bad, but I don't particularly care about her. It would be like expecting me to care about the guys that report to Darth Vader in the original trilogy.
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>>172162312
2019
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>>172164040
She's going to play a part in the second movie. They're trying to sell her.
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>>172162706
>But two stacks seperately can take two seperate provinces
Four stacks in two pairs can also do that.
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>>172164240
Alright, okay. Maybe I'll like her more in the second movie? But if you're giving me the equivalent to Boba Fett, I'm going to love the shit out of Boba Fett, even if you want me to love Tarkin.
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>>172162767
There's probably gonna be a 'fantasy Conquistador' pre-order race if we're gonna be realistic here

That, or Luthor Harkon and ZOMBIE GUNNERS
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>Fat, loud and obnoxious
>Appropriate the food of other cultures as their own
>Led by a retarded rich guy
>Go round fighting in other peoples wars
>Obsessed with guns
>Owns a slave race

Are Ogres the Americans of the Warhammer setting?
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Do you ever wish that Mousilion had a bit more of a unique unit roster? Or maybe just some reskins of more traditional units to make them a distinct Bretonnian version of the Vampire Counts?
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Can Dwarves conquor human settlements?

How come elves can live anywhere the knife‐eared bastards...
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>>172163823
That's the original art. I wouldn't censor any elf nipple since they were shown on the actual models and art in army books.
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>>172164527
I wish we were still like that, unfortunately we're cucked and infested with self hating marxists now.
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I hope we can make both campaigns combine from the get go so I can make Lustria green once the second game is out.
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>>172163808

C+D'ing anyone who used TR-8R, giving him an official history, and forcing anyone to push the official history or face copyright charges.
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>>172164860
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>>172164558
I'd love if they had some more Bretonnian units. I get that Blood Knights are the best cavalry and I wouldn't want that upended, but just undead Yeomen or reskinning and renaming Grave Guard as Foot Squires would be great.
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>>172165217
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>>172164527
Or are the Dark Elves the equivalent?

>Rebelled against glorious Island Empire and caused their decline
>Incestuous and inbred
>Skyscrapers and soulless, new non-traditional architecture in every city
>Decadent and sexually liberal
>Economy revolves around trade, raiding and slave labor
>Genocided original inhabitants of America
>Hostile against jungle neighbors
>Fights bearded mountain conservatives in a far away place across the ocean
>Supremacist ideology
>Warlike culture
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>>172165287
Even just dressing the zombies up as peasants would make me happy. Give the skeletons a few Men-at-Arms style helmets, give the Black Knights some Bretonnian-style armor.
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>>172163876
>not conquering everywhere
Fucking casuals.
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>>172165393
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>>172164371
>if you're giving me the equivalent to Boba Fett, I'm going to love the shit out of Boba Fett,

Disney lawyers are already en route to your residence to rectify your thoughtcrime.
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>>172164865
>Trump won
>Clinton second
>some dumbass ultra-liberal distant third
Who's supposed to want to abolish private property, again?
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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I'm having so much fun playing Medieval.
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>>172165573
I believe there are mods for that.
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What type of peasants should I be stocking my Bretonnia armies with? I'm thinking spearmen with shields/archers and eventually moving to polearms as the anvil to my knights hammer.
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Here are some of my achievements.

First off, Byzantine infantry and kataphraktoi are amazing. Trebizond archers are OP as fuck.
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Stop playing fantasy
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so uh

reminder to any legendary bros

if you play a VH campaign,,,you need to create a save for it or the autosave will be overwritten

122 turns in
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My Denmark campaign took quite a while.

Vikings are good shock troops, but that's about the only unique shit they got.

Hardest part was early on, taking the full brunt of the Holy Roman Empire and getting excommunicated by the Pope.
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Why does Napoleon keep crashing to desktop when I click on Torino? I'm not using any mods and it has done this 5 times in a row now, it's really putting a damper on things. Verifying the cache comes up with nothing either. I really wanted to finish this Brit campaign off. I guess Napoleon wins, the cheating cunt.
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My HRE campaign was fairly easy. Tons of choices for expansion.

I went for Poland and Hungary first, since they were the weakest targets.
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Pizzaria Mama mia.

Naval power allowed me to go for a crusade early on.
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>>172163464
Sniping a leader is always handy, but especially with Vampires. Once they die it is just a matter of time before it all falls apart for them.
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My favorite campaign so far.

Had a tough attrition war with the English, but once I kicked those bongs back to their island, it would be an easy ride.
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Allahu Akbar

My first 100% victory.
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>>172164558
It'd be nice, but I'd just be happy if they gave Red Duke bonuses for Grave Guard and the undead Knights so he uses them more.

A skellington looks the same weather Empire or Bret, really.
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>>172164828
Dwarfs don't like living in such temporary construction such as castles and towns if they can avoid it.

Though with the introduction of the Welf "outposts" it would be nice if any race could do that to a settlement.
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Finally, my most recent one.

Slavic warriors and javelin men are pretty neat.
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>>172166297
That's a good idea, I never thought of that.
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>>172151425
What did they do when the city grew bigger than the walls?
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IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KING Beastmen had the best pre-announcement meme
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>>172163464

I need to look in the workshop for a RoR removal mod,

I could almost tolerate them if they weren't rebought at full strength the turn after you destroyed them reeeeeeeeeeeee
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So this is going to be a royal cluster fuck

hope my micro skills are up to a 3v3
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>>172166524
At least I assassinated him earlier on, so I'm calling this campaign a victory as it stands.

I know he doesn't actually die but this is the only consolation I can get
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>>172166524
Torino is stronk. Power of Gianduia
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>>172165287
>blood knights
>best cavalry
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>>172169246
Well, better than Bret cavalry. They feel like it at least
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What is your favorite Faction to Play in Attila Multiplayer and why is it the Tanukhids?
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>>172169342
Don't GK btfo BK in 1v1 situation?
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>>172169598

>mfw CA releases Araby and their most OP cavalry unit ends up being hot armoured camel dick
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>>172169598
WRE
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>>172169598
It is Tanukhids, but Camels are a meme, it's really all about the pikes.
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>>172169868

>he plays as Gawds Chosen people instead of a Christian faction.
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>>172169884

Is this that shitty game Ryse?
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>>172169884
Why is he fighting orcs?
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>>172164527
Why do people use the only example of "good" Ogres when talking about them?

Leadbelchers are actually tolerable as far as Ogres go, IE, they only work for the "good" factions and only eat the dead enemies and not the live allies
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>>172169981

The Pikes are good but Mavia's Chosen are what takes the cake for me, with Sandstorm Lancers and Ambushers having good use depending on the map.
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>>172168713

welp
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>>172161610
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>>172164558
Why would I do it if there's a mod for it which does its job?

It even has Mutants of Mousillon. Nothing says Bret vampire like having hordes of endless skellies and still bullying peasants into doing their work for them
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>>172169884
Why is pullo not staying in formation
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>>172169884
Is that game good?
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>>172170112
Yup, got it for 1 dollar on steem. It's bretty gud for a 1 dollar game. Had fun in coop with a friend too. Also it gets points for insane roman-wank.
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>>172165849
Well nothing like seeing and not playing to break them rose-tinted glasses

Christ does that look worse than I remembered
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what do the Chaos infantry units chant, iirc one guy leads and the rest follow the chant like 3x or something.
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>>172169884
It was bretty gud as movie when i watched it on youtube. Average blockbuster.
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>>172169884
>Entire regiment of men with interlocked shields behind him
>Leaves to fight about 8 barbars alone


This is why I prefer my games as fantasy, at least that has an excuse, history games ends up being fantasy anyway and it triggers me
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>>172170421
Pretty fun for the time you get with it. The story is decent and the arena mode gives you some hours.

Get it on sale though.
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>>172165435
The brits caused their own decline by literally throwing their empire away to kill more europeans. such is the anglo way.
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>>172170421
For a single buck? Sure. Nice fantasy movie.
>>172170696
It is fantasy.
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>>172171010
What the fuck are you talking about?

I like to be proper meme'd, not whatever travesty you're pulling here
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>>172161610
Is that Milan-chan hanging from the gallows?
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>>172168713
>risk magic for more favourable wins
>gamble
yeah this series is dead
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>>172171617
What's wrong with it? It's just a re-roll, that can backfire.
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>>172171617
?
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>>172171617
What's the problem?

Is "wins" a typo or do you think it says "wins" and not "winds"?
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>>172171617
Literally the same as 'gambling' for better weather.
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>>172169884
GET BACK IN FORMATION

>angrily blows whistle
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What's your favourite LL in the game?

I think I'll go with Kholek, nothing more satisfying that seeing than seein him charging and crushing the enemies with his huge ass hammer
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>>172172043

The world will drown in VLAD
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>>172172043
Prince and Emperor
>useful
>looks cool
>hams it up
>/fa/
>true chad
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>>172172043
SAY MY NAME

SAY MY NAME
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>>172171885
Not quite in my opinion. Gambling for better winds is a way to help generals who only provide value through their magic. Weather affects everyone equally, but low magic can fuck over magic heavy lords or army compositions.

>>172172043
Angry Tree Dad no question
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>>172170354
Mind spoonfeeding and giving me the mod name, please?
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>>172172845
>but low magic can fuck over magic heavy lords or army compositions.
It really can't. You don't really have magic-dependant army setups. Also gambling can fuck you over hard.
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>>172172043
We'll always be friends, won't we, Gobbla?
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Is it normal to love the Fantasy Greenkins while totally hating the 40K Orks?
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>>172173162
F
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>>172173189
No.
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>>172173189
You gotta be a follower of Nurgle with that much shit taste.
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>>172173078
If I'm fighting two or three stacks and I'm relying on 2-3 treekin holding the line, then I need all the overcast healing I can get as soon as I can get it and aoe damage if I can afford it. If I start with just enough for one regular cast then hell yeah, I'm gambling. It's not like it can get that much worse. It's not every battle obviously, but it does come up and helps wizards out.
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>>172173189
Eh
The problem with greenskins is that goblins are more fun and have more of a personality than most of the orcs, whilst 40k orks do away with needing goblins so they end up being more fun overall.
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Would it be possible to make a mod that makes Kholek's hammer less retardedly out of proportion?
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>>172173445
>he wants small hammers
How low test can you be?
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Outta ma way skaven fucking shits!
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>>172172043
Siggy, just 'cause I like starting with a hellcannon and chosen
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Are Halberdiers better at holding the line than Swordsmen?

Every battle I'm noticing Halberdiers just fucking annihilating the opposition while my paper Swordsmen need to be merged after every other battle.
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I would mind Kholek hammering me desu
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>>172173692
>he's happy with a hammer so retardedly big it makes Kholek look like he has babby arms
How much of an infant can you be?
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>>172173932
Armour piercing and better charge defence. Weaker to missiles.
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>>172172043
Oh Emperor, my emperor.
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The Old Friend better be either Kislev or alternate starting position for the Empire with new LL.

I want to play another Empire campaign, especially because i bought both the King and the Warlord and the Grim and the Grave recently, but a feeling that Old Friend is related to the Empire stops me from doing this.

Also any required mods for Empire Total War? Is that darth mod the only thing i need? Do i even need it? I played only one campaign in it for a while since i bought it few years ago and got bored quickly. I think that i am burned out of every other Total War except this one, its sequel and Warhammer so i want to give it another chance.

>>172172043
Louen, Karl, Gelt and Vlad are based for the voice acting alone. I click at them frequently just to hear their voices.
>You are a guest in my realm. You will act like it or i will strike you down where you stand!
>You tread upon Bretonnian land and I'll have your will and I'll have it now.
>This is Bretonnia. I am it's King. For the Lady's sake stand your demands, so i can reject them!
I think I like Louen the most, Karl is close second, tho

>>172173189
Orcs < Orkz
Gobbos > Gretchins
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>>172174030
Swordsmen already seem to eat shit from any ranged volley, shields be damned.
So if I'm confident I can tie up enemy ranged, it sounds like it's generally safer to just have a huge line of halberds.
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Anyone tried playing Chaos in SFO recently?

What's a good opening strategy?
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>>172173445
actually I've just realised why Dragon ogre shaggoths & kholek look off in this game

They're just scaled up versions of the little Dragon Ogre's in every way.

They don't have the proper proportions of shaggoths in Warhammer because CA couldn't be fucked to make new models & animations.
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>>172174205
>implying it won't be muh boi
Step aside, fucbois, real necrodancer's here.
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>>172174386
Swordsmen only have bronze shields so they only drop to skirmishers slightly slower than halberds. Swords also have better charge and melee attack, but halberds have anti-large and AP which causes them to perform better versus a lot of mid and late tier units.
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>>172174587
I hope you're not implying that they should look like that model because that looks fucking ridiculous
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>>172173162
Skarsnik and Gobbla were some of the first models I ever bought when I was seven goddamn years old. Gobbla dying in the End Times broke a little part inside of me.

Between the End Times, Terry Pratchett and my Dad dying, I think that's every major formative element of my childhood gone.
Fuck.
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I'm playing Attila laying siege to a town. There seems to be this invisible zone that renders everyone in it exhausted.

What is going on?
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Any good qt mods yet.
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>>172174803
>tfw waiting the Elves just for the waifus
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>>172172196

*Vampire Lord
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>>172161610

Is Warhammer Total War fun/playable if you don't even play warhammer and don't like fantasy that much?
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>>172173932
>>172174030

a hidden stat where Halbs suffer is their "melee interval", which is tied to animation, which I believe is 5.5 seconds compared to 3.8 for spears or swords.

Against highly armored units the AP damage more than makes up for this, but against low armored units it makes them very cost inefficient.

I tend to run a Halberd main line but I'm a pike fag so there it is,
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>>172174739
Yeah, t-rex arms is best Dragon Ogre.

But I'm not necessarily implying that, the point is more that Dragon Ogre Shaggoths & Kholek are meant to have a bigger upper body compared to their dragon half than the regular ogres do, but they don't because CA couldn't be fucked to make them different models.

That's why Kholek looks retarded with his babby arms and fuckhuge club.

Making him actually look like pic related would've required more than just recycling the dragon ogre model with new armour.
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>500 kills on the hellcannon
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>>172175108
W
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G O B L I N S
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>>172175647
forgot pic
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>>172175247

so

at it's core, every Total War is about the real time battles and their Rock Scissors Paper combat.

TWW takes RSP and adds Magic and Monsters and Flying and all kinds of shit.

That along with the gorgeous visuals make it enjoyable to me,
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>>172175247
Much of the playerbase has never touched anything Warhammer prior to playing the game and, for the most part, everyone loves it. If you don't mind the fantasy (genre, not the game) aspect of the game, you'll probably like it. It's a great Total War title overall.
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>>172172043
Franz or Grimgor
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Goblin Dabbing
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Also fuck me I've realised something so retarded it hurts.

>Kholek is huge armoured Dragon ogre
>only has 50 armour, just like regular shaggoth
>In chaos codex he doesn't have heavy armour - they forgot to include it in his wargear and it was added by errata
>CA looked at codex post-Age of Smegmar when all errata's had been taken down
>Kholek's armour is now purely fucking cosmetic in total war
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>>172176080
He also gets increased missile resistance and increased damage resistance
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>>172175647
>>172175801
But that artwork has babby arm syndrome
Seems like you're trying to make a mountain out of a molehill when the dragon ogres ingame look fine
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Do you guys think they'll be brave enough to try the 4th race as DLC?

And I so, which race?
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>>172176682
Maybe

Its obvious people actually dont give a fuck. Everyone bought Chaos, and everyone has been buying the DLC regardless if its good or absolute shit like Beastmen.

I suspect they could release the expansion and make someone like HE or DE preorder only or pay $19.99 and people would loudly say they think CA are the worst ever, that they will never purchase it then on the day of release
>X is playing Total War: Warhammer New World™
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>>172176682
I seriously doubt it. People give CA shit for Chaos being a pre-order DLC, but without it we still would have gotten four factions to start. They may try another fifth faction as DLC, but not a forth.
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>>172176682
No
The preorder bonus will either be a minor faction, the equivalent of a legendary lord DLC, or some miscellaneous thing like dogs of war
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Will Cold One Knights or Dragon Princes become the best cavalry on the gamę?
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>>172176882
>Everyone bought Chaos
Haha, joke's on you, I'm way too cheap for that.
I mean, fuck, I bought the base game with a 25% off voucher during a steam sale. Apparently those stack.
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>Captured Reikland by turn 4
>Confed with the Talabs the same turn

Well shit, now this is how to start an empire game. Hopefully none of my neighbors get pissed. Having the strongest army in the game due to the confed helps though. Ruining my commerce though.
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>>172177169
Nah, they should be good but they probably shouldn't be beating grail knights, blood knights, chaos knights, demigryphs
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>>172176250
Where does he get increased damage resistance?

Increased missile resistance is just how CA implemented the Scaly Skin rule, any unit with scaly skin has that, including the normal shaggoths.
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>>172177169
>cav
>warhams
>good
Na

Too many anti large that are too cheap
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>>172176682
Considered that they switched Warriors of Chaos from pre-order DLC into free for all that bought the game during the first week they might not have a pre-order race now.
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>>172176682
We are already likely paying $60 for this god damn expansion

Cant they just not do something so jewish for once
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I want to block out the sun with repeater crossbows.
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>>172177331
>been locked in a war with Averland for 50 turns
This is how you don't start an empire game
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>>172177668
I want to RIP AND TEAR with lizards
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>>172177742
I want to plunder your temples.
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>>172176296
Not really. His hammer isn't so retardedly huge that it sticks out.

His proportions are also completely different - his torso should be way fucking bigger to match his lizard half.

>make a mountain out of a molehill when the dragon ogres ingame look fine
the regular ones do but I've thought the shaggoths & kholek have looked off for ages.

it's not like I'm expecting CA to change it, it's just disappointing that we won't get proper Shaggoth models & modders can't add them in either.
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>>172174783
Gobbos were my first army as a kid too, split the box ones with a friend. Loved the cheeky little gits, their maniac & comedic disposition & units. Also gave me an enduring hatred of High Elves when they beat my Gobbos every time, that evolved into a Dark Elves collection to exact revenge.
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As Bretonnia...

>Destroy the Skullsmasherz
or
>Farm Orc Rebellions
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Wow vlad is really strong, he managed to solo the entire army.
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>>172178427
>that quote
fucking Marius what a madman
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>>172175865
Yes like a game of RPS where you throw down with your right hand on the main battleline against your opponent, and then once engaged, flank him with a cheeky left hook to side of the head that sees his muslces chain rout to the floor.
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>bring ~4 hellcannons to siege
>win no matter the odds
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Theories on Future Rome 2/Attila DLC? I think something based around the collapse of Abbasid power in the late 9th century to 1080 would be good. You could have the Byzantines, Bulgars, the Abbasid Caliphate and various Christian and Muslim Factions that start as its Satraps like the Fatimids and Georgia, as well as nomadic factions like the Magyars.

You could introduce new mechanics specially for Islamic factions, such as a unique slave market tree giving some factions access to elite Ghulam cavalry, horse archers and infantry, though spamming them will lead to Ghulam rebellions, which work similar to Slave rebellions in Rome 2. And or course, the reintroduction of Jihads from Medieval 2.

Its an exciting time in History, as the old order collapses, new powers rise and fall, and the muslim world fragments, a Broken Crescent.
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>>172178947
>Future Rome 2/Attila DLC
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>>172176080
Doesn't he have a ridiculous ward save though?
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>>172177169
Cold Ones will get velociraptor animations that will tear through units making Delves and Lizards the undisputed cavalry kings of the Warhammer world. It's too tempting for the animators not to do, they grew up on Jurassic Park and dino lore. Now they get to make dinos into the OP monsters they deserve to be.
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>>172179096

CA said they were working on something for Attila to tide the non-Warhammer fans over, retard.
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>>172179295
that's just CA's shitty way of implementing the lightening rule though.

That should be changed to magic res and he should get bonus armour instead.

Would also make him less OP with ward-stacking in campaign and make him different to any other shaggoth in both campaign & MP.
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>agents that decrease enemy income/growth when deployed
Is there anything more useless than this?
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>>172178947
if CA was smart and they truly weren't planning on releasing a M3 they would make a IA-sized mini-campaign taking place in the medieval era - people would buy that shit up and it would be a great way to give people a modern tw game in a medieval setting
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>>172178427
I don't think so because the AI will pull however many resources it needs straight out of its asshole. They're more for the enemy to use on you only.
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>>172177169
unless either of them get a substantial bonus vs large, no. Idk about Dragon Princes but I see Cold One knights having a bonus vs inf. W/o a bonus vs cav any new units will be grail/blood/demi w/ halberd fodder
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>>172169884
The fuck is this shit. It's 300 all over again.
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>>172169632
Usually, yeah. They're both superhuman, but Grail Knights get a bonus against undead because holiness.
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>>172175247
I feel like it's only 'great' when you're a Warhammer fan. Otherwise, there are better Total Wars.
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>>172169598
people still play attila mp?
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>>172163730
The point of being wary is to not be a cuck who gives the stunties money.
I'd rather give the Skraelings money.

>>172171101
Indeed. Poor little innocent Milan.
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>>172170847
What, no. What?
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>>172180197
>giving a cav bonus vs large

they fucking didn't learn from Attila that you shouldn't do that, god damnit might as well make the trait tag +mandatory -fun
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>>172172589
Ungrim shits all over him in 1v1.
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>>172173917
Fighting all those Marauder Horsemen made me appreciate the Hellcannon so much.
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>>172174597
Nagash is so fucking shit though, and nothing about his awesome power makes sense. Why the fuck would the first necromancer be the strongest? He wasn't even around for long before being sealed away. What did all the necromancers and vampires after him do, sit on their fucking asses instead of improving on his magic?
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>>172175975
>Much of the playerbase has never touched anything Warhammer prior to playing the game
Or anything Total War, for that matter.
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>>172175801
With those arms and that hammer he'd barely reach the ground without crushing his own toes.
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>>172179848
If the AI didn't already cheat like a mad cunt, maybe. -income/-growth/-public order feel like ideas that will never see use outside of easy mode and maybe normal, where the game is so easy you don't even need to use them. You're better off just destroying their shit which is faster and more effective.
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>>172180414

I do ;_;

Seriously though, games do happen, its just that Medieval 2 is more active and that game is a decade old with even more broken cavalry.
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1: The DLC make this game seem incomplete, i see these other factions but i cant even assign them to the enemy AI bot in a custom battle
2: If you are going to make DLC at least make it available in a sale or something.
3: i bought this game for 40$ in a sale and it still feels like i bought a 20$ game becuase of how gutted the core game is.
4: IF you want super long battles this is not the game for you, they end fast and if you want to see some epic action you alwasy have to watch the replay becuase you are to busy microing your army during the fight.
5: if you dont have directx 11 its ok, run everything on teh below mario64 settings and it runs ok, given that some battles start with a pitch black screen which can be fixed by exiting the match and just starting the match back up.
6: fairly long load times for individual matches.
7: Some factions feel like they could use a boost in stats, like greenskins vs counts. about 3 minutes into that kind of game and the counts have the greenskins just running with fear while their casualties are like 70 men out of a 1200 man army, heros help with this but not by much.
8: the AI if given artilery in a land battle will just sit there the whole game and try to fire on you, this needs to be fixed.
9: you have to set the AI up with an army that has no artilery so it has to advance and even then if you dont have artilery the AI parks its army on a large hill, which always leads for such a dull upward hill battle.

PS: yes the DLC is bull crap but the game is alright in its current stage, however, due to the lack of content for the price this review ends in a negative review. if i had more content to grade like the other 3 factions this review would probably be positive).
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>>172177393
Just use them to collapse shit to free other units to fight the anti-large.
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>>172175247
Such a shame. Another sh*t TW game, the campaign is total garbage. I have been playing TW since Shgogun 1 and it is such a shame to see that the influence Rome 2 had on the franchise is still poisoning every game that follows. The AI in the campaign is ridiculous, your allies do nothing, whilst your enemies muster insane strong armies.
I played as Brettonia for my first 4 play throughs, "the strongest cavalry in the game". Yet when I encounter a wood elf army all I can do is chase the AI as they constantly flee, whilst shooting me the whole time. Bretonnian cavalry is utter garbage, with the elite Empire cavalry being infinitely stronger.
The hero upgrading is really cool, yet still doesnt seem to make a single peice of difference during battles, Ive easily pumped 4000+ hours into the TW franchise since Shogun 2 was released. Rome 2 created a cancer in the TW franchise that will not go away, it is a shame to see this game follows the same mechanics. As for DLC, i am glad I saw this game for what it is before I bought any. I will continue to play custom battles, but from what I saw from campaign battles, the different factions are incredibly unbalanced.
Oh and I also think its pretty ironic that the Wood Elves and Chaos forces completely f*ck me into oblivion, yet I would have to PAY for them in order to use that kind of power for myself.... Creative Assembly has changed... I am so glad Dawn of War III willl be coming soon. Peace.
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>>172177368
Level 14 (I think) 25% Ward save.
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>>172178427
>Vlad: 192 kills
>enemy losses: 527
>enemies remaining: 543
>Vlad soloed the entire army
Brush up your math.
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>>172172589
Grimgor-senpai!
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>>172172845
Angry Tree Dad doesn't have a single bit of "friendly" diplomatic dialogue does he? Playing as him, even when an ally comes to me asking for something, Durthu's line is usually along the lines of "you'll be good fertilizer P.S. never enter athel loren thats our turf"
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Can you not stack warrior priests for more growth?
I have 3 in a province and it says +50 from characters.
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>>172180596
Keep the dwarves happy, keep the orcs away, get to focus on half as many borders, all for a paltry sum that's irrelevant if you have a strong economy.
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>>172180062

IA?
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>>172181521
Are you saying that it's a bad thing for the AI to wait for you if they have an artillery advantage?
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>>172182248
May ten thousand men die before the stunties get a single cent from my hands.
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>>172182416
If you can't profit from beating them, join them.
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>>172182235
Do you have to deploy them for the bonus? Agents that deploy don't stack, agents that offer a passive buff stack.
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>>172182490
Can profit from beating them.
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>>172182276
imperator augustus - basically a mini-campaign the size of the grand campaign
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>>172182235

Deployment bonuses do not stack.

Standing around bonuses like the + public order bonus they get in their blue tree does stack, though.
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soooo

for anyone wanting to sample chaos or beastmemes or welves

Crynsos faction unlocker basically lets you play the DLCs,,kinda, minus the quests/story.

Honestly not sure how this mod has escaped the CA/GW/Steam DLC gestapo
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>>172182526
Oh, I see. Thanks.

Damn. That's a lot of wasted money on empire captains as well.
>>172182576
At least quite a few of them have loafing about bonuses now.
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>>172182157
Well if those damn kids would stay off his lawn then maybe Angry Tree Dad could stop spending so much time being angry and start being Awesome Tree Dad again.
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>>172182546
Not in the long term, and less of a profit is a loss.
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STATE TROOPS READY
HAH
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Date rightful shogun of Japan

Big Date No-dachi > small takeda horses
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>Hochland brought into war against me by Marienburg
>They brought Norrland with them
>But I currently control the Wastelands, Reikland
>Confeded Talabs, built improved walls which are stopping Hochland
>Confed Stirland after Anderson got seduced by the vampires
>Can't actually do anything because of the confed malus
>Not making enough money right now to upgrade buildings either

Do I just sit and chill with my two armies and wait out this confed and hope they dont bring any friends into conflict with me?
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>>172182716
Material profit at complete moral devestation.
Worse than bending over backwards for Archaon is helping the stunties.
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>>172182834
How brave of you to post from your tiny little corner safespace, Date.
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>>172183053
Just come for them when you've taken over the human lands. They aren't going anywhere on their short deformed legs.
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>>172182834

good luck, I'm behind 7000 walls
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>>172182834
Have you read the Masamune or Takeda manga? Same artist, very historically accurate. Also drew a Genghis Khan manga.
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http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/date-masamune-yokoyama-mitsuteru-r4292
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/takeda-shingen-yokoyama-mitsuteru-r8740
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But if you kill the stunties who will make the beer?
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>>172183935
human beer>dwarf piss-drink
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>>172183935

>iz tried a stuntie bee'a once, zoggin trash, fungi bee'a iz da only propah bee'a you git
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>>172184046

the the only thing humans make is fertile women for the superior BBC (Big Beastmen Cock)
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Dark elves actually look really fun.

>Interesting start location
>Potential for cool campaign mechanics
>Diverse roster full of monsters and elves
>Hydras
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>make sure to deploy on the opposite bank of a nearby river whilst recruiting so that I can have a river battle if I get attacked
>game doesn't give me a river battle here

ffs
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>>172184046
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>>172183181
S-shut up, Oda.

>>172183749
Classic Hojo.

>>172183761
I haven't. I don't usually consume that kind of japanese pop culture; my interests lie in live-action films (like Kurosawa) and history. The regular anime/manga shenanigans usually put me off, but if it's as accurate as you say then I'll actually check it out.
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>>172181710
Yeah that's stupid though.

Kholek currently sucks in MP and is literally no different from a normal Shaggoth despite having all that heavy armour.

They need to increase his armour to the 80-100 range so it reflects his model & TT rules and get rid of the ward save in SP.

It's stupid anyway that you can stack up to 90% resists on him in SP if you get lucky with items and just solo entire armies and cheese the game.
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>>172183395
Yeah they usually have to wait. I'd rather take some backstabs from them in the meantime than actually give the fucks some money.
Incase you didn't know my entire point is an anti-stuntie sentiment. You're right on how easy it is to get along with them, I just detest them and refuse to coexist.
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>>172182834
Japan is

RIGHTFUL

KIRISHITAN

CLAY
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>>172184316
>move to a different location
>actually get a river battle
>enemy reinforcements spawn behind me, on my side of the river despite being behind the attacking army on the campaign map

FOR FUCKS SAKE
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>>172184648
He is a very decent pick in MP.

Meta is switching away from goonsquads into big booty blobs, but kholek and another shaggoth is a damn fine goonsquad. His bombardment is pretty decent as well.
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>>172173189

I'm the exact opposite. I love my lead-belching, smoke-spewing Space Orkz.
Orcs with shitty bows and fucking pigs instead of HOGS does not get my dick hard.
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>>172173189
Total War: Warhammer's Orcs are a bit light on personality, even though they have some cool lore stuff. The Gobboz make up for it though.
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>>172184909
>bringing tercios to a katana fight
fucking nanban, every time with this shit
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>>172182834
Come to Echigo and say that to my face faggot.

*sips wine*
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>>172185212
I think Orkz are a more original idea. Which makes them pretty good for the setting because in general original it aint.

At a glance I should have the same opinion about Greenskins as you do, being so generic.
But I end up absolutely loving their roster and presentation.
They're like the generic M2 army, very nostalgic playing them in the midst of meme stunties and chaos shit and pike and shot armies.
And then you have weird little exchanges like wolves and pigs instead of horses.
Definitely my favorite roster in TWW as it exists right now.
You're the only army that really feels like it needs to manage morale as well.

I like Lizardmen and KANGZ and maybe even Ogres more than Greenskins, but until them, Grimgor is the strongest.
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>>172174386

If you're talking campaign, halberds are pretty much superior at holding the line. I tend to go with spears without shields until I can recruit and afford halberds.
Back them up with a light wiz and overcast pha's protection can make them withstand ridiculous mosh pits.
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I honestly do think that Naval battles will be added in with the new Warhammer game. CA isn't completely retarded, and they must know that adding in a giant ocean to cross along with the 2 best naval factions in the world (high/dark elves) while making them auto resolve sea battles would be dumb. I'm not expecting like 10 different ships per faction, but there will hopefully be at least a few.
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>>172184969
that was closer than I would have liked
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Are any of the corpse carts worth it?
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>>172165593

>that pegasus

M O U L D L I N E S
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>>172186152
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

ATTILA HAS KILLED MORE FUCKING BARBARIANS THAN ANY OTHER PERSON IN HISTORY
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>>172182610
Beastmen and Welves don't allow you to build any new units without the DLC although you can play with your initial troops for a bit before you get stomped, and Chaos has a limited roster based on some units having a DLC tag (Dragon ogres, Armored trolls, some forms of Chosen and Warriors) and some units not (Giants, regular trolls, most Marauder units and some Warriors/Chosen). It actually was a sort of fun demo to Chaos and convinced me to get them when they went on sale.
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>>172186309
only the one w/ unholy lodestone + ghorst's cart
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>>172181124

Other necros just mimick Naggy, who designed necromancy from scratch by mixing Dark and Death winds. Modern day necromancers are just scraping together the finished articles from lost tomes and minorly tweaking them here and there.
Even the original vamps were just a product of Neferata aping Nagash.
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>>172186309
Yes.
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>>172186524
Vampires kinda are like little pieces of Nagash.
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>>172185627

Bit of a 40k nerd and I'd have no issues with Orks being squatted desu - the endless cannon fodder before the real bad guys meme is sort of meh

but in TWW Ive also found them to be my favorite faction,

my only gripe is that by the time the badlands is semi secure around turn 75ish and I'm ready to WAAGH it up chaos has left me nothin but ruins and vamps
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>>172180382

Why are you pulling shit out of your ass? Blood Knights completely obliterate Grail Knights in-game, they have FORTY more armor and a significantly larger bonus vs large.
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>>172181639

>omg twwh is such a cash grab i cant believe its nothing like the old games

>I am so glad Dawn of War III willl be coming soon.

b8
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>>172185468
How are monk units anyway? I've only got a few dozen hours in Shogun 2 so far and haven't gotten the chance to use them. Uesugi seem pretty unique in their religious focus which does make them interesting.
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>>172186774
its actually pretty even if the grail knights are in lance formation - both have access to health regenerating magic support as well

>>172186792
its a steam review m8
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>>172175710
Soon.
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>>172186826
Can be clutch. Especially during sieges.

Use them for flanking because their defense is shit but their melee is savage.

Monk archers are smaller in number but they have added range so make good use of them.
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>>172186364

>Your wizard levels up enough to ride a pegasus
They will know true fear when my Lore of Beast rolls by and shoves a amber spear up Mannlets ass.
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>>172186892
>"the strongest cavalry in the game"
I always wonder just who these people are quoting.
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>>172172845

You're some kind of retarded masochist if you have a magic dependant army comp. All it does is affect your starting winds out of 30, it still fills up quickly since your reserves are gonna be high at the start regardless.
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>>172186653

Is this End Times stuff?
Far as I know Neferata developed Powerthirst™ and told her friends it was an 'elixir of immortality', which it was, but there were some side effects.
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>>172186892

Post it with quotation marks or maymay arrows then, you double-umgi.
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>>172186370
>utterly fearless
>fears savage barbarians
>even though he has wiped half of europe off the map and has won several heroic victories against them

bravo ca
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>>172182784

THE THONG IS MUSTARD
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>>172188113
DANSE MA CARP
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>>172188208
NAGASH WAS WEEK, WITNESS TRUE HOUR
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Craptop HDD died and now gotta wait 15 days of repair before getting to play twwh again

why live
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>Norsca is a nightmarish hellhole, where dozens to hundreds of tribes war over scant resources
>Main source of food is literally stealing shit from the Empire and Bretonnia
>Daemons, trolls, beastmen and spawn roam the wilderness, happy to kill you if nothing else does
>somehow capable of shitting out bigger armies than an organized agrarian society in a (comparatively) verdant land

How does this make any sense? I'm not even talking about in-game, but in the lore, swarms of chaos tribesmen just march south every few hundred years. How? Where do they come from?
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>>172187657

>developed

She basically stole Nagash's notes and got Arkhan to read them out to her and explain what all the difficult words meant.

That said, the only character's are actually anything like 'little pieces of Nagash' or Arkhan and Krell, who are deeply bound to him. Krell basically has no free will, whereas Arkhan has embraced his role as Nagash's vizier completely.
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>>172188308

BASED GOLD MAGIC
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>>172188113
THE THONG IS MUSTERED
THICC
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>>172161610
Does anyone have that picture of the understander of strategy Hannibal with a fucked up eye?
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>>172188575
Norsca doesn't make much sense but the Realms of Chaos are practically infinite. Time and space are warped close to the polar gates.
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>>172189063
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>>172187657
I don't think so. But later editions maybe.
I think the original elixir involved the blood of Nagash, which I assume then Neferata passed on with her blood I guess.

That's the connection I believe allowed Nagash to curse the lot of them for their treachery.

In regards to what specifically is End Times, I think from the novel associated with the Nagash book, when Mannfred contemplates the psychological issues all vampires share he attributes it to being related to Nagash. IE, Nagash seeks dominion over all so vampires do the same. So they're smaller clones of Nagash in that respect.
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>>172189157

That's always bothered me. the Norse tribes have huge ass armies so they always run over Kieslev etc since they usually occupy power spots 2/3/4.
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Despite having multiple playthroughs w/

>more armies
>owning half the map
>finished all techs
>absurd economies

this is the only time I can recall hitting supreme imperium in Attila
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>>172189348

Didn't know this before, thanks anon.
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>>172189212
>black hannibal
>king at all
I'm not sure if we have a solid idea of what the phoencians looked like but they would've been arab-tier swarthy at best, no?
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Got Attila, but I don't understand how the fuck to play.

I really liked Empire and Shogun, and they made a lot of sense tactically in an intuitive sense.

Empire was line battles and artillery, maximizing surface area of attack units, using calvalry to shock units or pick off static artillery off on its own.

Shogun was paper scissors rock.

What the fuck am I supposed to do in Attila?
Ranged units seem incredibly underemphasized and not nearly as effective as I'm used to.
Melee stuff seems to just dissolve into massive orgies of stuff where it's just matter of numbers and equipment quality and maybe a calvary charge from the flank or rear.

Is there anything more to this?
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>>172189578
Sea jews.
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>>172189157
>>172189361
>>172188575

>germania is a shithole of nothing but forests and swamp with no development, steppes are nothing but grassland and cows
>we're the ROMAN FUCKING EMPIRE
>how do the Suebi/Marcomanni/Goths/Huns/Alans keep sending these xboxhuege hordsd into Gaul WTF?!?!
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>>172185627
>fighting grimgor
>fire cannon at him
>shot deflect off his skull and kills half a unit of dwarf warriors
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>>172189826

Gaul was actually the weak point of the WRE and constantly held them back. They never settled the land enough, making it a wasteland that connected to Britain, a more valuable piece of the empire. If there were more colonization of romans outside of the southern coast of the Med and Trier, Gaul/Germania wouldn't have been such a ready area to seize by rebels and invaders.
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got this after defeating Karak Ziflin
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>>172188575
>>172189826
To answer this question, this kind of society (germanic tribes inspired the norscans) will mobilise a greater percentage of its population for war. This forms a disproportionately large army that tends to stick together, overwhelming more traditional forces. Other real-life examples include basically any and all nomadic hordes.
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>>172190260

You kicked their ass so hard your Lord felt unchivalrous doing it.
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Matched Combat Animations were NOT a mistake
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>>172190624
a couple here and there are fine but R2 adn Attila made infantry fights a literal blobby moshpit. Cool if you want some "realism" but gameplay is more important. Not to mention everything awkwardly shuffling everywhere to lock on and the performance dip.
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>>172189541

It's not confirmed and Mannfred is a completely unreliable narrator, who takes any excuse to shunt his flaws off as being someone else's fault.

More likely, the dark nature of vampires comes from the fact that they're inherently creatures of Dhar, Dark Magic, which promotes megalomania and destructive impulses in frequent users.

Even then, some vampires mostly rise above their nature. Notably, Nagash himself vastly preferred Vlad, as he found Vlad's belief in creating a nation greater than himself to be admirable, and believed that Vlad would eventually come to see that his nation of the dead was the only logical choice for the world.
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>>172191060
I liked them in Medieval 2
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>>172189624

So you need to learn basics about how archers work in Attila. Archers themselves are weak units that will rarely get kills. You use them for the special toggle arrows. Whistling arrows to morale route, Fire arrows to kill cavs, anti infantry arrows for lightly armored inf etc.

The ranged units that get tons of kills reliably? Fucking skirmishers with javelins. Slingers are alright since they have base-line arpen, but javeliners? Let them hit any unit outside of their shield arc and you will lose a unit faster than a demigryph charge.
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>>172188481
There's always the mobile app, anon.
Because ya know, that was a TW.
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>>172161610
Is that manga about Hannibal and Scipio any good?
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>>172191150
I did, too. I feel like making them the majority of all melee animations was a big mistake.
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>>172191337
Ad Astra? It's alright. The group translating it stopped, though, so it ends in the middle of Cannae. Also, it is a manga, so expect your Roman characters to act more like typical Japanese characters at times.
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>>172189624
Cav is king in attila - and cav w/ anti-cav bonus is king amongst cav. No matter what the melee stats are of a cavalry unit, in attila they will do the most damage through the impact damage mechanics which increases with how heavy a cavalry unit is (light -> very heavy). Archers aren't killers like in shogun 2, and generally rely on flaming/heavy shot to kill cavalry/infantry respectively. Instead they are used for killing lightly armored units/enemy skirmishers. Hurlers/slingers are great vs unarmored units, and also give off a speed debuff that is useful for slowing down cav, which also reduces the impact damage upon charging. Infantry varies depending on what faction you are playing as and what weapon the infantry is using, as well as if the unit gets access to formations like shield wall. Skirmishers are incredibly powerful, but suffer from short range and limited ammo
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>>172191110
Based Vlad
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>>172191110
vlad confirmed pawn of nagash
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>>172165435

do they all look asian?
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>>172189578
>what the phoencians looked like
Originally, they were from what is Lebanon and Israel today.

By Hannibal's time, it is safe to assume that they had mixed with the Hellenes from the colonies around them, and other peoples from around the western Med (Iberians, Gaetulains, whatever they were called).
IIRC Hannibal's mother was from the Balearic islands, so marriage to cement alliances etc was probably not unusual.

For some general idea, look at some guys in southern Italy, and add a more pronounced nose for semiticness.

The Romans essentially repopulated the areas they themselves laid waste during the war with Punic slaves, while the areas in North Africa enjoyed too many centuries of Arab/Islamic cultural enrichment to be representative.
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>>172191110
Mannfred has a point though, even the 'good' vampires like Abhorash and Vlad are dogmatically self-serving. And Nagash was a lot less than logical, given that his main motivation in deathifying the world is to ensure none will ever be able to threaten him.
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>>172191772
I enjoyed legend of the galactic heroes greatly so that's no problem for me.
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>>172192445
;_;7 Ushoran.
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>>172192445

Nagash actually has a good bit of respect for 'worthy' individuals. It feeds his ego to have individuals he recognizes as being intelligent, honourable and driven serve him willingly, rather than as undead slaves.

He offers Settra Mortarchship, tried quite hard to make Sigmar into one of his champions and gives Vlad a lot of leeway.
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>>172188481
>laptop HDD dies
your only option is to buy a new one and reinstall window, which is possible for normal people and only take a few hours to do.
Instead you just hand it over to someone else and wait for 2 weeks
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Gonna play G O B B O Z for the first time

Any tips?
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Is there any way to combat vamp influence other than rushing a t3 settlement for the shrine of sigmar? Seems a little silly there is no t2 small prayer site or something for the empire.
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>>172193598
Unless you share a province with vampires you shouldn't receive too much corruption, and all Empire heroes and general's have a corruption-lowering blue skill within the first part of the path.
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>>172193573
nasty skulkers
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>>172193754

Stirland has 20% vampire corruption which puts its public order in the tank.
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How do I control multiple stacks for battles in med 2? I clicked control the army yet the ai is in control. I told it to shoot out with our superior archers yet the retards decide to charge cavalry right into their spears I was shooting at. I'm upset because it takes like 10 turns for 1 of those cav to finally regenerate and recruit so the ai just kills them.
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>>172195003
>Tilea vs Estalia, Southern Realms mod
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>>172195362
>"Be a Squire" they said.
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>>172195585
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>>172195754
They really need to add standard bearers
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>"Oh man, I've never tried a beast men campaign, why not?"
>start campaign as Kazarak
>going good, razed Estalia in a couple turns
>Move up towards Bretonia
>Orion shows up, in Estalia
>"All right, kill him"
>He gets ganked by my two armies of Gors and Ungors
>Moving up into Bretonia
>Siege a castle
>Almost going to run out of food and suffer attrition
>Orion shows up again, with another full stack that at least costs 15 amber
>"Okay"
>Wreck him again
>Go back to sieging with depleted troops
>1 turn away from cutting supplies
>Orion shows up AGAIN
>Realize with my already depleted forces I can't beat him
>Try to retreat, only way to get away is beast path
>Intercepted by defenders of the castleEven though I had the research to lower the chances
>Loose one of my 2 armies
>Zazarak's army gets away
>End turn
>Orion is still chasing my ass, giving me no time to re-build
>Quit the game
So much for trying them out, I suppose.
Fuck worst elves, seriously
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>>172191431
I think the biggest problem with warhammer isn't so much the lack of matched animations as it is how terrible and stupid the animations look although going with medieval 2 style animations would probably be the best option.
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>>172195906
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>>172195906

>Units with standards now gets a crazy dude with the flag
>He beats people to death with it

Fund it!
>Turn 15
>Own Reikland+Talab+The Wasteland
>Confed Stirland
>public order issues all over the place
What should I be doing now? Consolidating my two stacks? Spamming gifts to Wissenland for them to get over their imperial distrust? They are fighting Crooked Moon in Grimhold along with the stunties so their power ranking is quite low compared to mine.

What kind of relations do I need for him to bend the knee?
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>>172196070
Tilean Battle horse
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>>172195937
Keep in mind that your armies are invisible while encamped unless someone gets close to them.
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>>172196205
Kislev, where even the bears have fetal alcohol syndome
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>>172196348
Do you think there will be an in-game explanation for Kurts absence? Like he was on vacation with the Amazons?
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>>172188481


I've wanted to play twwh for days but I just end up shitposting here instead.
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>>172195937
to lose* is to suffer defeat
loose* describes the genitals of the Kislevite head of state following a Chaos incursion
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>>172196496
gravediggers
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>>172163732
>Eldar
>round ears
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>>172196659
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>>172196496

Doesn't the Empire Successionist recruit Kurt Helborg after you defeat their first stack and route it? Might just be imagining that though.
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>>172196874
"Helborg" is a standard last name in the name generator.
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>>172196984
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>>172188575
At least in the lore, some of the more southern Norscan tribes/petty kingdoms will actually engage in trade with the wider world.
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>>172197116
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>>172192728
>tfw no DLC to form a Strigoi army and reform Mourkain in the Badlands
>it will never be the glorious kingdom it once was - the Strigoi have devolved too far for that - but the Strigoi themselves can learn to prosper in barbarism with no equal to hunt them, regaining the humanity they had lost
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>>172197185
Yeah, the main difference between fantasy and 40k is that in Fantasy there are small indications that things may not be completely fucked.
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Don't know why my screenshots are so bad. I have good graphics ingame
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>>172197116
it's normal to get an erection when you're hosing down routing grobi scum with flames right?
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>>172197508
print screen looks better; whatever steam uses for in-engine screenshots adds a lot of grainyness
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>>172197508
I just hope Chaos Warriors and Beastmen will get some love. Their rooster is a bit lacking and they also have a lot of recycled units
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>>172197508
Could be worse, anon.
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>>172197679
Not so special screenshots, I'm just a Chaosfag.
Fuck the End Time tho, everyone now thinks I'm bandwagoing
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>>172197679
But it kind of makes sense for them to have some overlap, right? I enjoy that.
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>>172197508
steam defaults to downgrading screenshots, check the settings
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>>172197538
It would be gay not to have one.
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>>172197645
Wait. How in the FUCK can you printscreen?
I've been getting black screenshots for like 5 years now.
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>>172199559
windowed mode
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>>172199821
CA somehow perfectly captures the badass birb looks deeply confused up close effect. Truly Warhammer is the greatest of the Total Wars.
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>>172197185

>That moment when you realize you can trade as the Empire
>You only need to discover them
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>>172200196
>>172199821
certain models will follow the camera when you get up close - its pretty neat
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>>172199821
Mounts staring at camera was an interesting choice
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>>172200196

>Some norse shit shoots at distant birb thinking its a meal
>Its actually an entire bucket of KFC
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>>172200576
Is there really a point to it, though? They'll still likely raid.

Something that annoys me with Bretonnia specifically is that if you research technologies for bonuses against, say, the Wood Elves, you'll probably never get to be friends with them. And while Greenskins and Warriors of Chaos not being friends is sensible, sometimes it's nice to be able to negotiate.
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>>172201238
I actually avoided that tech as the brets just so I could ally w/ the welfs, it was really annoying to dismiss the research pop-up before ending every turn
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>>172200760
Seriously why

And who

And why

Why did they do this

WHY
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>>172199821
bird
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>>172201238

Was talking about places like the border princes and Tilea via trade ports. Dorfs even etc if they have ports in the bowl.
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>>172197645
there's a setting in steam to save screenshots as png, makes them look far better
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So in the grand campaign if i confederate with Boris is he supposed to have access to his runeblade and a Griffin mount? He doesn't and idk if it's a big or not.
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>Still ~5 days away from WH expansion/new history announcements
>Still a long time until any of it actually comes out
Fuck
Just give me the old friend already
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>>172197508
>1366x768
Thats why

Most people are posting 4k images, which downscaled makes the game look pretty fucking great
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>>172184286
Delves also have plausible reason to go world conquest, while some other factions feel flat after you've beaten your antagonist faction.
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>>172201895
bigbird
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>>172196348
lmfao those are so derpy
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>>172174783
I love you anon! Look forward to the future!
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>>172202276

Guessing he is the old friend, so he doesnt have shit right now but is technically a LL when you confed him.
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Sometimes you're just having one of those days.
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>>172202841
doublebird
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>>172179551
They should be combat monsters. Lore Cold ones were always so badass, frenzied poison secreting Utah raptors too hungry to realize when they should back down from a fight.

Make them expensive though. Stabling and caring for the dumb lizards should be a real pain
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>>172203591
>get a sorc lord
>put on dragon
>drop into middle of enemy forces
>use magic on self
>???
>RIP AND TEAR
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>>172203591
hungrybird

my screenshots look like shit and that makes me feel mildly bad
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>>172204170
Gobbo delivery bird

Force 4k, turn off AA and TF. Just use it to take pretty screens then switch back when you want to play normally.
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>>172172043
Only one answer to this question for me, Gelt is the best of the empire lords in terms of his character and is arguably more interesting in terms of characterization then all the other LLs in the game with the exception of Vlad.
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>>172172043
It's hard to say, since I haven't even played half the factions yet, but I'll go with Leoun. Great character, has some great stats.
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>>172172043
Franz. The gravity hammer is such a satisfying sound and I hear it every time he pounces.
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>>172204283
give me hug bird

I think this looks better. Thank you anon.
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>>172172043
I really want it to be Azhag, but hes undeniably the worst lord in the game at the moment and CA has done diddly fucking squat to fix it

Just give him Skullmuncha at level 10 and access to his magic from the start and he would be fixed. Instead of putting it at bloody level 25 and one of the hardest battle quests in the game.
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>>172172043
Either Volkmar, Ungrim, or Sigvald
Slayers are great and Volkmar's wagon makes him an absolute blast to use
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>>172172043
2v1ing mannlet with vlad and isabella is the greatest
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>>172204986
>forgot my pretty picture
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Even Skarsnik fell for the classic "pretend to be a forest" routine.
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Another fun way to bully the Gobbo in your life, net him down and chuck a spear at him
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>>172204986
>azhag
>worst lord in the game

sure he could be better but he is nowhere near the worst lord in the game

I also think his quest battle is fun compared to a lot of the others
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In celebration of LIZARDS i'm going to start saving up for a new rig. I ideally want to get 2k 120 FPS with maxed out settings.

A single 1080 Ti good enough for that?
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what's he thingken bout
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>>172206992
>rat genocide best day of my life
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>>172186524
Which is what makes it stupid, how is the discoverer of a lore the most powerful in it after being gone for so long while far more plentiful and older beings (in terms of how long they've been using necromancy, since they've been free the whole time) are still scrubs in comparison? Especially since the Tomes of Nagash aren't all lost or anything.
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>>172186774
My bad, I meant in the fluff. Why would you even need to ask about in-game when you can just make a custom battle between the two? Like asking about what it's like to stand up, just get your ass off the chair and there you have it.
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>>172206812
He is absolutely one of the worst in terms of campaign.

Wurrzag blows him the fuck out.
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>>172207347
>just get your ass off the chair
but that would interrupt my total war and shitposting time
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>the empire perk to boost greatsword weapon damage only boosts their non-ap weapon damage (which they only have 10 of)
fug, i thought i was actually getting something useful
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this ship is going places
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>>172190621
My god. Tall guilt.
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>>172207657

I wish armor piercing wasn't a Stat at all, why they didn't base it off the perfectly logical tabletop system escapes me
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>>172207680
>land ho
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>>172207680
Skilled Viking sailors could take those longboats miles inland before they lost momentum
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>>172191110
Vampire Kangz don't need any psychological evaluation for their megalomania to be explained, because it's fucking Warhammer and everything is terrible because everything is war. Who gives a fuck about some theoretical vampire sitting in a shed somewhere being pacifistic, Warhammer is about the war.
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>>172207843
Many areas of the world live in relative peace in WHFB
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>>172189578
We have people of the same ethnic background who haven't moved much in the same area. So it's safe to say they looked like the modern residents of northern Tunisia. This means you have a range going from tan Jewish person, to straight up Arab*, to North African black which is the Moroccan style that have European or Semitic facial features but black skin.

*note this is not specifically people of the literal Arabic peninsula as their invasion of Africa had not happened yet, but people of similar genetic makeup have lived in North Africa since ancient times.
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>>172204986
I want all orc lords to be separate desu, and to have the ability to go into hordes and leave their captured territories to an allied AI.
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>>172208086
I hope TW:W2 gives the Core Four a rework to bring them up to par
I don't want to get too excited for it though because they're adding in a whole new map and races so maybe they won't have time for it
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>>172207484
Okay, so it was a bad analogy, but surely a custom battle doesn't count as an interruption?
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>>172208269

The Old World shake-up might not happen until the next expansion adds onto it
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>>172207680
We Vinland Saga now.
>>172207916
And how much love do they get? That's right, none. Well, nobody gets any love anymore since Age of Skubmar and the years of no love preceeding it, but still.
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D A W I
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>>172208340
Yeah good point there's that whole Chaos Bonanza on the horizon.
Think we'll see some new subfactions of current factions with New World specific starts?
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>>172208446
>life sized
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>>172208565
DELET!!!
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>That moment playing as fay enchantress when you buff yourself 50 armour and 50 attack.

LADY LE SMASH!
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I am starting a VH empire campaign with franz.

Should I go for that slow grow or should i try and confed as fast as possible?
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>that HOOHA HOOHA sound when you win a battle as the Empire

Never gets old.
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>>172208810


>KHAZUKAN KAZAKIT-HA!!

I can feel my beard twitch when that shit goes off.
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>>172208810
>>172208927
Dorfs are my least favorite faction, but damn me if they don't have the best victory cry in the game.
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>>172206992
>all my brothers got killed by diseased rats
poor lizard you deserve it
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>quicksave before a battle
>find that if I lose the battle, the enemy will chase after my lord and kill him
>want to save this lord, so I keep reloading the save and playing the battle over and over, slowly developing a strategy but never quite being able to win
>even load an autosave to get a damsel over to him to give him more of an edge (even if Lore of Heavens is not as useful in this battle)
>last time actually got close to winning, the balance bar was actually in my favor, but power suddenly cut out

It's torture, pure fucking torture. It's been days and I haven't been able to move past this one battle.
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>>172208810
>>172208927
"OOOOOOOOOOOOOGH!!"
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>>172209016
Have you tried focusing on routing one enemy unit at a time close to the edge of the map so they leave the battle before having time to regain morale?
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>>172209016
Alright Anon, I'm going to give you a surefire way to save your lord.
Replace him with another lord, and let the new guy take the loss. The lord you want to save gets put back into the recruitment pool after a few turns, and the battle still happens if you needed to hurt their stack(s). Be aware that upkeep costs will increase dramatically, depending on the army composition.
Of course, if you're going to win the battle with this new strategy, fighting it out would be wicked chivalrous. Only use the above method if you absolutely cannot stand to lose the lord.
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>>172209521
You madman.
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>>172209463
I have to rely heavily on a reinforcing army to give me a chance, so I can't really get the enemy close to the edge of the map, since that would be to my rear. Might be worthwhile to use the lighter cavalry to keep the enemy from reforming - the enemy is mostly using, aside from regular Marauders and Trolls, Marauder Horsemen and Chariots, and Yeomen aren't that useful against the latter two that cause me the most grief.

>>172209521
I'm not even sure how (or if) I could do that - the lord is near Marienburg, but he's out of movement points. I do know it would hurt my economy badly though - recent attacks have hurt my economy, and having a new lord without a Knight's Vow would strangle it.
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>>172210282
>I'm not even sure how (or if) I could do that
On the Lords stat screen there's a "Replace Lord" button, with an image of a boot on it.
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Post your face when the Carnosaur ROAR is an edited version of the sound that this fucker makes in this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_LFKNghYi8
DAMN!
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>>172162312
September 2016
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>>172210702
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>>172208927
>>172208954
Dwarfs have the best voice acting in the game honestly. I kind of ruined it for myself playing them first. Going from them to Orcs is heart breaking. Empire is close.

Like holy fuck some of the shouting the Dwarfs do.

"PUMP THOSE DWARFEN LEGS"
"RANGE FAR RANGE FAST"

Whoever they got to do that shit put his heart and soul into it.
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>>172210702
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Post how you want the reveal trailer to go. Should the corrupted light wizard be in it or not? What order should the three races be revealed in?
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>>172211626
it will be like this, grace and darren comments semi confirmed it, plus everything is going like this anon said
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>>172211626
>three races

Four, baby, four.
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>>172161610
Is Vlad the easiest hero in the campaign? This is what I achieved by turn 150 in hard difficulty and I didnt even tryharded. I dont think I could do this with someone else
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I fucking hate barbarians
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>>172211151
Goblins are just as fucking good IMO

"GONNA KILL EM!"
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>>172212020
Normal Vampires are easier in my opinion, since you start with a gold mine instead of having to capture it later.
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>>172212020
pre-Bretonnia/Izabella patch yes
post-Bretonnia/Izabella patch kinda
Mannfred has a much stronger early income and that matters; plus he has two lores
Vlad is still the best Legendary Lord by far but if you want to confederate with Mannfred it means skipping Castle Drakenhof early and instead beelining high value expansion targets like Kislev or Reikland which aren't exactly close by
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>>172211663
>>172211792
Holy shit.
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>>172211626

>Should the corrupted light wizard be in it

Now that you mention it it seems awfully strange to have van Horstmann in the trailer but not the game proper.
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>>172161610
>New World Expansion Soon
>https://comingsoon.totalwar.com/
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>>172212146

Maybe if you're trying to confederate the other faction, but you can have Drakenhof by turn 2/3 mattering on which lord you start with.
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>>172211626
I want to see a Seaguard Helf and a Vampire Pirate clashing on a beach.
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>>172210702
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>>172209146
>March, 1968: North Vietnamese MIG-21s strafe a squadron of UH-1Ys medevacing wounded Montagnards
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>>172212086
>Dey won't feel a fing, which iz a PITY!
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>>172210702
Why isnt there a human faction in fantasies that rides gorillas?
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>>172212453

Vampirate.
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>>172212619
Gorillas don't really look like practical mounts.
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>>172212602
Dis STINKS!
>Gonna STAB!
Dis had betta work!
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>>172162312
Never ever.
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>>172210702
It wont be that awesome

In fact non of the games monster sound effects sound good now that I think about it
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>wanted to play lizards
>everyone wants to play lizards
>now i dont want to play lizards
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>>172213069
Just play G O B L I N S
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>>172212619
pygmies, I think
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>>172213069
>tfw didn't care about lizards in the first place
Useless toads, only good for boots
I just want ogres already
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>>172213296
>ogres
Jesus anon

See you in 3 years
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Is it fair to say Ogres are essentially giant hungry Mongolians?
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>>172213229
I'm about to invade the empire from south as Crooked Moons, what should I put into my army?
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does anyone have the datamined map pic?
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>>172213468
Aesthetically yes, but their lore is pretty fucking cool

>made by the old ones as an attempt to stop Chaos
>would have been the perfect race to do it, but they had a flaw of insatiable hunger
>old ones got pwned before being able to fix this flaw
>went into a war with giants, the size of mountains
>ate them almost into oblivion
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Ogre_Kingdoms
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>>172213623
GOBBOS!
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>>172213623
Nasty Skulkers
Wolf riders to flank and chase down fleeing assholes
Night goblin archers
And the big spooder
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>>172213724
What's up with all those ogres from other factions? Are they recuitable by everyone?
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>>172213905
Will Work 4 Food.
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>>172213905
Ogres are everywhere, and used by everyone. So they are a part of every faction either as a dedicated warrior or mercenary.

As long as you pay them in food, they dont give a shit who they side with.
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>>172213905
Ogres have a powerful wanderlust. They end up in the literal four corners of the world, where they find mercenary work to be able to eat. On the TT any faction can hire Ogre Maneaters as mercenaries.
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>>172213905

Some Ogres become mercenaries, they generally adopt whatever culture they worked under, which is why you see Ogres dressed up in the various trappings of other civilizations

These Ogres are known as Maneaters and are some of the most skilled fighters in the Ogre army.
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>>172213925
>>172213974
>>172213976
>>172214062
>>172214202

now I wish they could include mercenary ogres for the 2nd warhammer installment but they is already so many to be crammed up to it.
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>>172214062
the pole jumping gnoblar always gets me
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>>172214202
>Ogre Slaan
wat
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>>172214493
Some of those are just player made jokes over the fact Ogres adopt whatever culture they join.

Obviously an ogre cant actually become a Slann
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>>172214202
Makes me wish TWWH would have an aprils fool event where all units have been replaced by poorly disguised ogres for a day
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>>172214534
Too late, we headcanon nao.
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>>172213724

So why didn't they take over the world after that?
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>>172214821
It's a model from a guys Lustrian Ogre faction. Really well done too, it's mostly kitbashing Lizardmen stuff with Ogres
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>>172214650
>Ogre Franz
>SUMMON THE CHEF

>>172214836
They went to Not-China and attacked the Dragon-God-Emperor-Thing there. He proceeded to drop a mega-fucking-huge rock on their lands killing the vast majority of them. This same rock became the giant Maw they now worship.

So then they fucked off west and fought the Giants and obliterated them, before decided to settle down in the mountains and become a real civilization rather than just eating everything all the time.

They get enough food now from pillaging/diplomacy/paying for it they dont have to go on the uncontrollable mad hungerlust they were on before. So there isnt a real reason why they couldn't if they got hungry enough again. They are basically a more terrifying version of Skaven, except they can control their urges so they dont obliterate the world, unlike the fucking rat rats who blow blow the moon up up
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>>172214836
Most of Ogre society was destroyed by a massive meteor they call The Great Maw which landed above Cathay, killed most of the Ogre civilization and drove them into exile.

They worshipped the Great Maw out of fear and reverence for its ability to consume their entire civilization. Eventually the worship grew so prominent they spawned an actual deity, hence the Lore of The Great Maw
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>>172215030
also, why did not-japan teach Skaven about how to be ninjas? is there any lore about that?
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>>172169246
I haven't seen too much stand up to them, but for me it's always seemed like reiksgaurd were better on the charge and for routing things meanwhile demigryphs just beat everything down
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>>172215157
yeah, other human civilizations are not so racists towars furries, they even have embassies in cathay If I remember well


It-s a shame because if there wasn-t end of times and thanks to the total war succes I bet my left testicle that the next armies to be developed would be cathay and nippon, giant serpent dragons, giant oni demons, fuck.
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>>172215306
why are Old World humans are so hostile to other races then? is there any precendence for that?
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>>172215157
Very, very little has ever been written about Nippon, and virtually everything you see will be made by a fan and not official GW authors. All we know is that they're a feudal empire with an extremely strict caste system, not unlike Bretonnia, and that they implement their own version of sakoku in that nobody is allowed to enter or leave the country. This means two possibilities:

>clan eshin are allowed in and taught mad fuckin ninja skills
>clan eshin force their way in and use the threat of extermination to force the nipponese to teach them mad fuckin ninja skills

It's just a case of head canon. Pick the one you prefer.
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>>172214534
>Obviously an ogre cant actually become a Slann

>playing tabletop
>wizards apocalypse game
>slann overcharges a spell
>the miscast turns all mages into frogs
>including the ogre mage
>and the slann itself
>who still manages to choke to death a griffin that tried to eat it

everything is possible
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>>172215369
>why are Old World humans are so hostile to other races then?
Because it makes a good story

t. games workshop
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>>172215306
>>172215417
I wish they made some nippon mercenary units. It would be easier with all those Shogun 2 animations.
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>>172215456
I guess you could say the Slann mages Kroak'ed
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>>172214454
I bet there will be some good mods for that after Game 3 when Ogres are added.
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>>172175247
I never cared about warhammer fantasy. It was yet another tolkien fantasy with elves and dorfs for me. Nothing interesting. I liked warhammer 40k, tho.

The only reason i bought this game is because its part of Total War franchise, series i play since childchood. I probably poured at least two thousands hours into medieval 2 with mods alone. Now warhammer is probably my favourite Total War and it will certainly be my favourite after all expansions and dlcs. It's the only Total War in which i beat 4 campaigns in a row and i still want to play another. And i beat 6 campaigns since premiere and i finished all of them. I only beat campaign as house of Julii in Rome 1 and as Isengard in Third Age MOS.

Now i quite like WH fantasy and even bought Vermintide. It's quite interesting world because of the Empire and deisgn of their troops alone. One of the few worlds in which human factions aren't borning.
I still like wh 40k better.
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>>172215635
I don't remember if it survived actually
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>>172215549
Just make nippon themed rats. Nippon itself is ludicrously irrelevant.
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>>172215417
I remember all mentions of clan eshin saying that they learned from cathay though. Granted, it's been decades since the last time I read official WHFB stuff
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>>172175247
I learned about Warhammer Fantasy after I bought TW: Warhammer. Before that Warhammer Fantasy was just "WH40k but with swords" for me but now I know how beautiful it is. I'm reading Skarsnik's books right now.
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>>172215846
Nippon is the canonical origin now, since they wanted to enforce the whole "ninja" angle.
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>>172212602

>click on warboss
>GONNA STAB
>give him a move order
>when I gets there... GONNA STAB
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>>172211151
Yorkshire accent suits dwarves, I'm excited as to what accent chaos dwarves developed.
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>>172214454
>Albion never
):
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>>172216174
Isn't really habitable on a civilized level so it doesn't serve a point.
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>have to wait forever for history
>even the DLC/standalone they were talking about will probably be a year away at least
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>>172216229
Its been colonized by a couple of factions actually. Lizardmen, Empire and Greenskins.
I WANT MY DRUIDS AND FEN ELEMENTALS AND GIANTS
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>>172216268
People saying next history will be renaissance, 1453-1648 era but even that we don't know. Enlighment and Religious mechanics could be interesting.
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>>172216080
You gotta give them props for dedication.
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>>172216354
What we know:

>time period the series has never covered before
>involves historical "personalities" in the same vein as alexander, napoleon, and attila

That means:

>three kingdoms china
>renaissance europe, although this can clash with sengoku era japan if they're adamant about the time period comment
>victorian era
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>Tfw no handsome dawi husbando to fuck every grudge out of you.
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>>172216113
>I'm excited as to what accent chaos dwarves developed
Something disgusting, like the Dutch accent when they speak English
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>>172216485
wot'z yoo sayin' stuntie?
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>>172216467
I know the period got covered in M2 but i still want a Genghis Khan setting given the huge versatility and unfamiliar ground covered.

Inbetween the mongol hordes, china, persia and even so far as eastern europe you'd have tons of unit variety, of cultures that hasn't been covered much in depth before. Taking the Khan from small time warlord to leader of the horde would also work from a personality perspective.
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>>172216467
30 Year War plox.
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>>172216715
That would be so depressing. The civilian toll of that war was massive.
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>Finally, they produce the Ogres. [...] They were as adaptable and fast breeding as man, able to survive all but the harshest of conditions, resistant to mutation, long lived, fairly intelligent, and they could eat just about anything.
Are they actually the strongest faction in the warhammer world?
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>>172216775
If you take the benefits of intelligence(cohesion, strategy and technology) out of the picture, then yes.

Also note that halflings are midget ogres.
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>>172216775
If they weren't so stupid, yes.
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>>172197538
They are pretty amazing. I never built them for some reason until I played Grombrindal and you start with them, I can't believe what I've been missing.
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>>172216775
Not at all, if they were their faction would dominate. They, like most other fations, have superlative power but fatal weaknesses holding them back.
What's what hourglass-shaped yeti in the right corner though?
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>>172216963
>What's what hourglass-shaped yeti in the right corner though?
I forgot what they're called, they have a Warhammer style "total-not-a-yeti-wink-wink" name, but yeah, it's a yeti. They're a Ogre unit.
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>>172216963
a yeti

basically a common ancestor of ogres mutated into an incarnation of cold
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>>172217063
>totally-not-a-yeti-wink-wink
Not
>totally-not-a-yeti™
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>>172217063
>>172217078
Why is it so hot though? Look at dat hip:waist.
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>>172216963
>What's what hourglass-shaped yeti in the right corner though?
A Yeethi or Yeethe or something like that
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>>172217158
It is quite a shapely yeti.
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>>172217158
maybe it's a female?
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>>172216775
Speaking of Ogres, does that mod to Medieval 2 have Ogres in it? I woud want to play as them.
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>>172217269
Gee you think.
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I noticed in TW:W when I siege with engines, it gives them to the first troops in line, which tend to be melee damage dealers. Of course I think, "no I want shield guys" in there, because guys in front should have shields.

But it the game smarter than me, do the siege towers give protection to the damage dealers, so it's best if they go first? I'm confused now. Is it like the default battle deployment where it looks random but actually has a logic?


>>172217158
They have much higher metabolisms, lots of Jane Fonda VHS's and only eat the leanest gobbo meats.
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>>172162789

But I don't want to play as Pontus
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Ogre Mercenaries fuggin when?
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>>172217389
>Ogre Mercenaries fuggin when
Ogres in general can't cum soon enough!
Also Chaos Ogres for Warriors of Chaos
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>>172217353
Siege towers should mostly contain unshielded guys, because they take full missile damage while shielded ones block 50% of the missiles. A ram should be pushed by shield guys so they don't all die before arriving at the gate though. The auto-assignment isn't all that smart though, and seems to assign somewhat randomly. I have to reassign which units use what equipment pretty often.
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thanks to you guys I'm reading on ogres.
damn those guys are hardcore but what the hell is the great maw, some alien thing or a tyranid?
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>>172217802
A big rock
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>>172174783
grow up and get a job
marry a women and do adult stuff like sport
LOSER

sorry about your dad
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>>172217802
? A giant comet that glows and burrows its way through the earth on impact. At both ends, it sports a giant crater-mouth. One in the ogre mountains, the other in the sea (whirlpool style). Also, it fills the ogres minds with bloodlust and hunger (hive mind and synapse) and drives them to consume the world.
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>>172217802
Fantasy and 40k aren't connected. So its just a big magical rock, conjured by one of the chink mages in Cathay.
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>>172218179
Well that is not actually true, even in the end of times ecent a space wolve shows up
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>>172218846
>Well that is not actually true

It is though. The split came decades ago.
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>>172217802
it's ogres' collective psyche cast out from the warp by the dragon emperor of cathay to punish them for their own sins
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>>172217389
Someday.
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>>172217576
>Chaos Ogres
Is this even possible, aren't they supposed to be ultra-resilient to warp.
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What scenario could occur that would make lizardmen and, say, dwarfs fight each other when neither have much presence on each other's side of the world?
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>>172219540
resistant immune does not mean
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>>172219571
Dorfs find ancient dorf ruin in jungle, lizardmen refuse to move out or painted a dick on the gates.
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>>172219571
dwarfs like gold like the fucking kike shits they are

Lizardmen cities are BUILT out of gold

PAM!
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>>172181521
6, literally takes 5 mitues for me if not longer
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>it's a 'Archaon gets BTFO within 10 turns of his appearance' episode
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>>172181521
>>172219836
wtf, are you playing on literal toasters?
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>>172219667
the lizardmen dont actually value the gold in the cities they've abandoned though

there's a whole thing where explorers will come; ransack an abandoned temple city and the lizardmen will come out of the jungle in droves to recover a random junk artifact and leave all the gold behind
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>>172219853
Bitch nigga Chaoscucks being treated like they deserve.
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>A friend of mine noticed that cool, misty background on https://comingsoon.totalwar.com/ is actually a video, which is hosted here: https://cdn.creative-assembly.com/videos/totalwar/13b3d1259ae2a0e0cf397d78eab87a4e789be119.mp4
>If you download this video, and open it in a text editor, you can read some of the meta-data, which includes the lines:
>creatorAtom:fullPath="F:\GENERAL_TRAILER_ASSETS\Game_Sting\WarhammerII\Introducing\tempSting\AE\jungle_scene.aep"/>
>creatorAtom:uncProjectPath="\\?\G:\store\Warhammer_II\Movies\CGI_STILL\CGI_10second.prproj"/>
Thanks reddit and typical CA move
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>>172220031
You could inspect the page when it first came up to get a similar string of text, but it looks like they fixed that
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>>172220012
It's his own fault for attacking Vlad and Isabella's doomstacks.
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>>172220012
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>>172219853
In most my games Chaos steam roll half the map before i can even muster an army, what difficulty you play on?
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>>172220031

What could it mean?
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>>172220101
Shut up Archaon, your backstory is nonsense.
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>>172220108
Hard, but he rushed straight for me as the von Carsteins, tried to besiege one of my level 5 capitals with level 3 walls, which had another army inside it, as well as Vlad and Isabella within reinforcement range.
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>>172220238

>implying
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>>172219571
>dwarf explorers venture into the southlands in search of the long lost karaks of its mountainous region
>dwarf explorers venture to the new world in search of gold and the fabled lustrian alcoholics
>dwarfs learn that the series of earthquakes that led to their kingdom's fall were caused by a frog on the other side of the world that didn't pass the course for chaotic maths
>the lizardmen stargate in front of a karak to retrieve a gold statuette a dwarf got stuck in his beard for error during an expedition to lustria
>after 3 decades of debate some skinks academics finalise the translation of the cryptic words wishpered by the slann in his sleep: "fuck this place in particular and place a frog for each midget"
>skaven extermination war by red crest skinks escalate into a threeway fight against the dwarfs too as the shamans foresee a new skaven uprising should there be dwarfs to feed on
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>>172216775
Nah, about the same strategy sense as orks and not really much in the line of magic.
They're no less impressive though.
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>>172220259
Play on VH it can be quite challenging, and most of the time Chaos arrive before you can blob up to much.
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>>172220031
Attila 2 confirmed??
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>>172220420
Yes.

Now with more horsefucker factions.
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What do you guys think the most edgiest lore in WFB is?

- Archaon
- Dark Elves
- Vampires
- Slaanesh
- someting else
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>>172172869
MixXu's Mousillon


If you don't mind Custom battle bloat, his Empire of Man mod is also pretty good
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>>172220510
Fimir, beastmen.
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>>172220508

No fucking way, if this is it I'm gonna lose my shit.
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>>172211663
what CA commens confirmed it?
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Thoughts?
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>>172211663
So Estalia confirmed?
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>When Skarsnik the Goblin waged his great wars against the Dwarfs, he brought the entire Rock Skull tribe with him as support. In negotiations with the Goblins for what they were willing to pay for the support of the tribe, he convinced the Rock Skulls to instead pay HIM for them to fight.
Is there any character more based and more cunning than Skarsnik?
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What unit size limit is the closest to the table top in Warhammer?

I'm curious to see how the game feels that way.
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>>172220667
Some kind of... alternative post-siege options is it?
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>>172220735
smallest.
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>>172220667
Why this wasn't in the base game, who knows
Although, raze and revel is a bit of a strange way to put it
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>>172220613
darren sayign that for once he didn't leak this shit, and Grace joking about it or something like that
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>>172220834
What kind of romance options will Lizardmen have
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>>172220667
I prefer the old way for extra money, exp and ability to split the effect between two hordes, but I'm in the minority as far as I've gathered. Other than that +15% might be a bit too strong, does it depend on the size of the city?
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>>172220713
the last words he says to the poor blind rpisoner at the end of the skarsnik novel when he loses his shit and explains how he send drugged squigs to skaven as a gift and after few hours they wokeup causing ratdisaster is gold


Also when you think the poor guy is leaving skarsnik den safe whe little cunt tortures him to "almost" death
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>>172220870
The sharp end of a sword and the heavier part of a club.
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>>172220713
What argument did he use?
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>>172220945
Being able to spread the gainz is a nice side effect of the current trash Chaos campaign mechanics
Though you can do something similar with Beastie Boyz by doing a two stack siege and having your secondary start it off
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>>172211663
>Ships from the east bearing crosses, skills, ruined sails heading toward the new world
Yes.
YES.
READY SETTRA'S CHARIOT.
At least I really fucking hope it's them, there's a bit of their lore that talks extensively about their coastal pirate fleets and they're the only major undead faction with a fleet and access to the sea, and they're already RIGHT below the main map, and please just let me have this they didn't deserve being written out of age of sigmar
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>>172217270
Yes.
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>>172220945
It's always 15
But you pass on a lot of money. So its fair I guess
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>>172221103
KANGZ this early? don't think so tim.
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>>172221247
SETTRA COMMANDS IT
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>>172221160
It might be fair in the beginning of the campaign, but later on money shouldn't be an issue for Chaos at all. 28k like in that picture is extremely low for being after 100 turns.
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>>172220704
that migth be just a detail to piss of historyfags
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>>172221247
I just want to build massive, unbreakable statues made of stone and bone that can FUCKING FLY.

Is that too much to ask?
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>>172221103
Well that looks like a swell place to live in, everything is named doom this or madness that.
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>>172221380
The Gulf of Fear has some really nice beaches
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>>172221369
WAVE AFTER WAVE

Slowly drifting
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>>172220953
Probably some big words about teef economy and stuff.
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>>172221380
It helps that literally 100% of the local population is undead. Living conditions get a lot more bearable.

Plus they worship a death god, so half of that evil-sounding stuff is actually a compliment, really.

Just don't bring up Nagash or any of his subordinates. Settra's still FUCKING PISSED that they ruined his whole immortality gambit and now his empire is undead instead of glorious everliving immortals.
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>>172221380
Hey, it's not all bad! Look, there's the springs of eternal life right over there! don't do it the springs just kill you and raise you as an undead
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>>172221103
>tfw will never take your waifu on a cruise across the sour sea after a romantic date in the swamp of terror
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>>172221535
>they worship a death god
do the skellingtons go to church? who's this death god?
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>>172221720
>why live
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>>172221769
no but they have cute whores to suck their bones dry
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>>172221103
But they have rules for AoS?
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>>172221969
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>>172221103

WE
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>>172222030
Manny probably wears custom height-enhancing shoes like Roberto Downey Jr.
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>>172221769
They basically copied the Egyptians wholesale for their religion, there's a list here: http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Tomb_Kings#List_of_Known_Gods

The most important ones, Djaf and Asaph, were iirc shown to canonically exist in The End Times seperate from all other godlike figures in the setting, so the Tomb Kings apparently have their own private afterlife as well.

>>172221969
Ish. They have warscrolls adapting their previous existing units when AoS was first released, but unlike most of the factions they weren't at all included in the actual rulebook that released later, and haven't received official points costs for their units, and are completely absent from the lore. They're just the bare basics of support for them.

Granted, a construct-based army of them WRECKS FACE right now if you use the common unofficial tournament points costs for them that's floating around, because Necrosphynxes and Warsphynxes take half damage, can be healed by lich-priests, and mounting a Tomb King on a Warsphynx lets you give it a weapon that further heals it when it deals damage, making it damn-near invincible, but that's aside the point.
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>>172220667
I was under the impression you couldn't increase the replenishment of a horde unless it is in friendly territory?

Or rather, it is hardcoded that increase to replenishment is tied to friendly territory?
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>>172220031
>CGI_10second.prproj
Trailer confirmed only 10 seconds long! Hype levels decreasing.
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>>172222585

You stupid git.
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What happens to the imperial foot solduer when he gets A-moved by the player into a minotaur pack and dies in the charge? Does his soul get tortured in the Aethyr by chaos dudes?
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>>172222692
>yfw you realize player is the Chaos Undivided of TWW no matter who you play
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>>172222692
His soul disintegrates in the Warp and his emotions get sucked to the corresponding vortexes aka chaos gods to fuel them.
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>>172220613
Darren posted "For once it wasn't me!" before deleting it and Grace posted about being impressed by the creative writing and joked she would steal the tagline.
However in another related thread she posted pic related.
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>>172223051

I wanna get succ'd into the Slaanesh vortex.
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>>172172043

So far, it's gotta be Grimgor.
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>>172172043
Orion
Dude is fierce
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I wish they'd done pre battle speeches for the legendary lords, at least for when your opponent is another LL. It'd have been great to get characters views on each other especially since the lore never really got to do that.

>tfw no Gelt and Mannfred shitflinging
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>>172223672
I'd replay the greenskins campaign against just to hear Grimgor banter everyone
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>>172223672

I enjoy the diplomacy screen intros

>VON CARSTEINS MINIONS SENT TO THREATEN AND PARLEY?
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>>172223875
>Every pre-battle speech is just Grimgor going "CRUSH DA STUNTY/DEAD/UMIE/POINTY-EAR/SCALY/SPIKY GITS"
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>>172223967

I like his attitude where he basically just threatens to kill everyone who gets in his way or doesn't do what he says.
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>>172172043
Orion, especially when I'm fighting against beastmen and they've brought minotaurs and cygors. He really does feel like a living embodiment of a god who's sole purpose is to hunt beastmen.
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>>172172043
Karl, Thorgrim, Wurrzag, Vlad, Durthu, and Louen.
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>>172172043
I fucking love skarsnik voice acting.
Also I'm the only one wanting to see underground map like HOMM3 ?
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>>172164527
I hope the general ogres say AAAHHH MAH LEEGS!
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>>172213468

yeh
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>>172189578

For was not a King nor a Kangs
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>>172224131
Warbossing 101, add on top of that Black Orcs have an animosity toward the other lesser disciplined greenskin races, doubling the git-smacking
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>>172215778

>yet another tolkien fantasy rip

So that's a wee bit unfair. People forget how old Warhammer is....it was actually one of the first rips.
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>>172219540
>>172219616
They have to willingly join Chaos entirely out of their own volition, and/or be provided with lots of food.
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>>172222889
You're the khorne of the setting
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Who is the best advisor of all the total wars?
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I think we'll find out what this is on Friday too.
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>>172226135
Darth Vader.
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Having played greenskin, beastmen and currently playing von carstein, I can say that monstrous infantry is way too much fun to use.
Giant just flatten everything and can even replace ram in siege.
Minos are unstoppable wrecking balls.
Valguf-whatever from vampire is like mino but comes from the sky and has terror as topping.
I skipped Dorf and save empire for last but I don't think I can enjoy gunpowder factions after this
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>>172225623
As long as a work makes a significant contribution to the genre and comes up with its own ideas to clearly distinguish itself from the other works, I don't know why people care if it is based on a previous work.

D&D is derived from chainmail, any first person shooter especially those similar to quake, D20 rpgs in videogames, etc. I do really appreciate new ideas and I hate lazy blatant ripoffs but I think Warhammer fantasy and its goofy 40k counterpart have made themselves into fine settings, albeit outside a few releases their vidya haven't been very good (looking at you Eternal Crusade...)
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>>172226135
Not the japanese woman in Shogun 2, that's for sure. She's driving me nuts with her engrish.
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>>172226382
IF OUR DAIMYO IS TO BECOME SHOGUN
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>>172226294
Watching an array of missile units melt a Giant is almost as fun as having a Giant
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>>172226382
But her engrish is kawaii
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>>172219571
Did the lizardmen one time like fuck with the tectonic plates and kill a shit ton of dwarves, it wasn't intended but being underground when earthquakes happen is bad. Maybe the dwarves find out and put em in the book of grudges.
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>>172226294
It's fucking fun desu.

In TWW they always charge their general in first, then my 3 units of thunderers kill him before he even reaches my lines and their whole army routes within a minute.
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>enemy attacks with multiple stacks while I'm laying siege to their city
>kill them all including the basic garrison
>large garrison spawns with a bunch of grave guards
what manner of double plus bull shit is this?
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>>172226164
the pic is a fucking middenheim castle - we already know what it is, considering Empire are the only race left with only 1 faction to play (not counting WoC ofc).
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>>172172043
Mechanically? Feet Enchantress may be my favorite.

Thorgrim Grudgebearer for fun/fluff.

>>172205089
Since I don't care for Flaggenelnts much, Volkmar doesn't seem worth using, is he usable without?
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WHERE IS KRELL
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>>172227069

Vlad is weak and Isabella is a whore.
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Are there any mods that add great weapon options to picking lords?

Kinda like picking different lores for a wizard lord but picking between armour & shield or greatweapon instead.
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>>172227309
Not that I am aware of, here is hoping for character/unit gear selection interfaces
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>>172212949

Treemen sound great, so does the forest dragon. Giants sound ideal. Have faith.
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Is it hard to make a custom LL using the modding tools?

It seems like making units in of itself isn't too hard but I wonder about skill trees.
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>>172227410
I hope later on Chaos gets a few reworks but one of them is their sound design. The classic TW barbarian dude is fine as a gag and the marauders sound fine. Warriors are ok but Chosen should sound more demonic. Meanwhile lords/heroes, Kholeck, and the monsters sound like shit, Sigvald was done well but Archaon didn't impress or intimidate me as he should.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC1Y2pFP2ls&list=PL7l8yJHLU_BGRyo1NkkhRWG69pfgSnmVS&index=14


what happened to this sound design?
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>>172227398
would be fucking awesome if when you select a lord you can get a little interface up where you can pick his armour & weapons from all the meshes for your faction.

Would be awesome as well if there was a high tier building you could get which unlocked all your factions relics (and just a selection of weapons with master-runes for dorfs) - so you can design how you want your lord to play more so than just hoping he gets nice drops.
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>>172227307
t. Mannlet
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>>172164558
Evil grail knights make no sense because they would lose the blessing that makes them so strong to begin with, right?
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>>172227410
The Giants sound like Tourettes Guy's impression of Chewbacca, and I mean that in a good/amusing way.
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lofi orion face zooms best face zooms 2017
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>>172228225
FREEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!
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Why can't Ghorst upgrade to a Mortis Engine from hid corpse cart?
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THE NATION CALLS
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Are Flagellants a meme unit or can they actually be useful if you go full Sigmarite Cult and buff them to hell and back with Volkmar?
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Anyone else getting a patch for Warhammer?
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>>172228830
yee mang.
Think it's just that brettonia balance patch they mentioned the other day
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>>172161610
Radious
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>>172227930
this pic will never not crack me up.
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>>172228992
Carthage 4 Life
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Fucking Grimgor ai recruits nothing but goblin units wtf
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>>172228280
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Yes.
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>>172228431

BRING ME TO MY MEN
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>>172229184
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>>172227930
I would pay so much fucking money for a Dwarf VC faction who only raises dwarf skeletons.
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>>172229556
THEY HAVE RAISED US
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>>172229695
not by much
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What's this patch?
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>>172188912
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>>172229926
small balance and bugfixing patch
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>>172229392

>bring me to my men
>friends of the empire, come
>that /fa/ armor
>clean shaven handsome mug

Hmmmmm
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Are dwarf/orc/elf skellies or undead mentioned in the lore
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>>172229695
COVER YOUR AXES IN SWEET GROBI BLOOD
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>not enough disk space for the 128 mb update
>check my SSD
>19 GB available
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>>172230045
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>>172230207
I keep forgetting about WHs retarded updating system just in time for another update to roll out.
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>>172230045

He merely wants to fight alongside his soldiers, you degenerate.
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what does the duelist trait actually do?
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>someone is actually overhauling the chaos campaign
holy fuck, it might actually be playable at some point.
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>>172230338
strong vs 1 unit at a time I believe, so you set duelists on LLs or 1 unit troops
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>>172230350

Really, who/whats the mod called?
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>>172230338

Less AoE splash, easier to hit a single unit in a crowd.
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>>172230207
Same and I have 29 GB. Why are they so fucking retarded?
And now as always I have to move a bunch of shit, update and then move the shit back. Really fuck you CA
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>>172230427
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=890292457

He also just released 2 mods that let you sack/raze on the same turn and vassalize tribes much easier
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>>172230430
Adding to this, it's incredibly annoying trying to kill an enemy lord in a crowd with a non-duelist lord of your own, because they constantly switch targets.
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>>172230207
When Warhammer updates, it does the preallocating as if it were installing the whole game.
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>>172230338

Its a positive spin on having no splash attacks (knocking multiple models on the ground).

Kind of how some units are 'anti infantry' because they have no anti large bonus (but no actual anti infantry bonus)
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>>172230525

Neat. I've havent played Chaos yet, so maybe I'll wait for this to be finished
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>>172210702

This has been mine and probably a lot of people's reception to the idea of the new faction as told by the tabletop fags so it would just be fitting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sckNLh1SMOY
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>>172230350
Well I'm turn 70 in mine and it's one of the most fun campaigns I've done so far.

What's the problem with it?

The only part I've found annoying is no combined sack/raze but that's only become a problem now that I've made a second stack - before I could just raze every turn and not give a shit about money.
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>tfw you trick Manlett Von Carstein into attacking the dwarves and steal his city
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>>172229974
are the patchnotes floating around anywhere? can't seem to find any
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>>172230973
Patch Notes:

The Total War: WARHAMMER multiplayer leaderboards have been reset.
A 5% score penalty will now be applied to users caught drop-hacking from multiplayer battles (disconnecting under suspicious circumstances).
Fix for users becoming unable to save the game, after the last chapter mission is completed on Legendary difficulty.
Fixed a missing building chain in the Grung Zint settlement.
All income types from Farming/Industry bonuses are now being applied correctly to all resource buildings.
Fixed a rare crash when disbanding Heroes on the campaign map.
Fix for Guardians of the Lady skill giving magic resistance instead of missile resistance.
Fix for Gelt's Pegasus unlock level.
Fix for inconsistency between Strigoi and Ghorst spells and the main lore spells.
Chivalry is no longer gained for torturing people in during Quests.
Updated garrison for Couronne and removed wall building chain.
Various text, game guide and localisation fixes.

Balancing Changes:

Questing Knights
- 8 Charge Bonus

Foot Squires
- 10 Leadership
- 6 Charge Bonus

Men-at-Arms
+ 25 Cost

Helman Ghorsts's Vanhel Danse Macabre
-1 Power Cost

Strigoi's Soulblight
+1 Power Cost
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>>172230636
Get a melee-specced hero for that.

Gobbo Warboss' are really good at this because they move at fucking warp speed when you give them a Wolf and use 'slippery', though they struggle against Dwarf LLs and the super-armored Chaos heros and lords.
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>>172210702
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>>172230265
Handsome AND lethal
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>>172229868
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>>172231087
>Helman Ghorsts's Vanhel Danse Macabre
>-1 Power Cost
NO
HOW COULD THEY DO THIS
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>>172231087
So they do some changes to Bret shit (nerfing Bret Cav and the only infantry they had that was even remotely usable, lol), but leave the OP as fuck vampire cunt armies untouched?
ggclose CA
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>>172230901
One of the big issues is that Norscan tribes secede and declare war on you super easily on difficulties above normal. This means that it's hard as fuck to find a place to replenish your troops fast. Later in the game it becomes tedious as fuck to destroy cities because you have to wait several turns to replenish after any battle that isn't a stomp in your favor. Corruption is supposed to boost your replenishment but it never does.

It also takes quite a while to grow a second horde to a good level unless you build it early. You also have to be super careful with your hordes because if you lose one you have to start all over with building it up again.
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>>172231178
>He doesn't use Karl Franz Black Armor

Absolutely Haram
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>>172210702
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False emperor Franz should just die
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>>172230901
Problems of Chaos Campaign:

Hordes take way too long to develop into any cohesive fighting force, you will never have as many armies as territory factions

Chaos isn't really balanced well so you are going to crutch it out, characters and infantry are not as good as they should be

Attila horde implementation makes you play really passively and losing a horde is incredibly painful compared to an army loss on territory factions, making you even more of a pussy, its also boring

There are no map objectives aside from Norscan awakening which is botched to hell

Nothing really interesting to do and you wind up just besieging forever

AI knows EXACTLY where you are at all times, will never engage you aside from overwhelming superiority, and will hide in its towns, tack on pixel perfect campaign map positioning

Norscans suck after turn 60

No unique mechanics that are good

You are either starved for money or you sack so much its irrelevant (but that is every faction)

Again outside sieging what else are you doing?

Need the chaos expansion for it to have a chance of being good. May seem fun know but once you finish one chaos campaign you will struggle to play another one.
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Does anyone else get crashes when they merge units after a battle? Any idea what mod might be causing it?
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>>172231562
t. Boris Toddlerbringer
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>>172231562
t. Boring Turdburger
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>>172230901
People are bad at the base tw games so they dl mods to make thngs easier
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>>172230636
I never have much trouble with this, you just have to spam click.
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If 10 years ago playing old total war games someone told me that I'll be playing fucking dinosaurs as a faction... how are they not gonna be the best faction by FAR?
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>>172220309
>no mention of Grimgor
Missed opportunity
>>
So I'm playing the white huns and the final army tradition on the right of the tree seems to be busted.

The +20% missile range specifically.

The go my dreams of being the most op horse fucker ever.
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>>172231585
I agree with msot of your points.

Also, that map just makes me sad.

How fuckawesome could that chaos campaign have been, instead we get the boring Horde mechanics and in any SP campaign the AI just spawns in a dozen doomstacks.

The most annoying parts are that the AI just has magic radar and knows where you are, and that you have nothing to do while you wait for your horde to grow enough to actually build useful shit.
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>>172231834

The very high chance that they'll be extremely unquotable.
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I just wanted to have awesome siege battles against chaos and their kin... but even with a myriad of mods making it much easier for chaos, beastmen and greenskins, they're all dead now thanks to the combined efforts of Empire, Bretonnia and the Dwarfs. I just camped behind the Grey Mountains.

So I decided that I'll declare war on every mother fucker on the planet. I WILL have my siege battles, even if I have to kill Louen, Franz and Thorgrim myse-

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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HIGH KING THORGRIM GRUDGEBEARER
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>>172232374
THEY
HAVE
WRONGED
US
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top of reddit total war..

Simply ebin
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>>172231834
It depends on how they make the faction play, but yea it could be great.
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>>172232374
I AM FRANCE
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>Slaan voice lines are a mystical, telepathic voice
>But when they're hit in combat they make high pitched frog squeaks
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>>172231829
>you just have to spam click
This is the annoying part.
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Was The King & Warlord announcement trailer the funniest thing to happen to /twg/ for a long time?

>all dose AAAAAAAAAHHHHs
>all dose karak eight peaks
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>>172232374
Seriously where does CA pull out those awesome voice actors? Thorgrim, Karl Franz, Grombrindal, Volkmar have top tier voice actors.
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>>172232540
>>172232540

It's probably gonna be the assistant skink doing the talking.

With the super rare slann quote where he talks to you and comments on your framerate or something.
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>>172232707
>Not the Elfposters getting btfo and the salt that followed
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>>172232921
I think AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH KARAK EIGHT PEAKS was funnier because at the time there was a lot of AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHrome posting.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH....ULTHUAN
>>
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH
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>>172233142
I always hear it in Skarsnik's voice for some reason.
>>
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHEvery FUCKING day with these STUPID fucking MEMES!
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Would you a beastmen doe?
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Is this a new TW game or an expansion to Warhammer?

I've always hoped for a full version of the M2TW Americas Campaign. I loved playing as the Apachean Tribes in that
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What's your favourite thing about Dark Elves
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>>172231457
I'm on very hard on turn 70 and none of them have seceded yet, though they keep asking me for money, the beggars.

Corruption boosting replenishment would definitely make things easier, though if you play quite carefully with your lord it doesn't matter too much.

The only thing I'm wondering is if it was even worth making a second horde. It's meant I've had to sack & raze most cities rather than just sacking cities and it's slowed my campaign down loads.

>>172231585
Most of these are complete bullshit though

>Hordes take way too long to develop into any cohesive fighting force, you will never have as many armies as territory factions
This is counteracted by the fact that you get your elite troops before anyone else does though.

You can unlock Chaos Warriors on the second turn which are fucking insane compared to most people's starting infantry. Chosen follow soon after if you keep up with razing.

On my Kholek campaign I decided to make do with doggos for a while instead of opting for chaos warriors and by turn 23 I had Dragon Ogres which are some of the best units you can get.

>Attila horde implementation makes you play really passively
You don't have to at all. In both my chaos campaigns I sieged Praag by turn 5 and started kicking Kilsiv's shit in.

You just need to accept that you'll have to save-scum more than other campaigns because loses hurt so much.

Also if Norsca is boring as shit why do people keep doing it? The reason chaos is so fun is because you just start sieging shit instantly and get awesome battles where the AI only has stacks of shitty infantry vs. your elite units & dogs.

>Again outside sieging what else are you doing?
Do you not understand total war games? Also I've had fuckloads of land battles as chaos, considering there are land battles instead of village maps in this game.
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>>172233448
>not a single Beastwomen shown
no, Harpies don't count
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>>172233569
But they are there.
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>>172233448
I would throw them on a pyre
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>>172233453
>Is this a new TW game or an expansion to Warhammer?
Standalone expansion that will tie into the first game
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>>172233453
It's a new game which will connect with the current game like Lego bricks
>>
how will they accomplish linking TWW New World into the old?
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>>172229135

I always enjoy a Carthago camapign and try use 100% mercenaries

Though once I fuck the Romans over good I lose the motivation to continue
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>>172232707
>>172233142
>>172233191
>>172233434
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>>172233836
like the map reposted here like 1 fucking million times?
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>>172233836
They'll revive the Theatre system, with all it's fun quirks
Or they'll just make it a straight up twice-as-big campaign* map by offering a conditional FLC for Warhammer 2 which downloads a combined map pack
*assuming the new campaign map is the same size as The Old World
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>>172233486
>you'll have to save-scum
>have to
That is exactly the problem.
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tfw gf getting me a gtx 1080 so I can finally play this shit in glorious above 30fps settings at ultra.
can't wait boyos
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For Chaos campaign in particular, I think there should be zero horde buildings. Instead, let an imperium general stat determine what units you can hire (or perhaps specific goals/quests) and hire units in a manner similar to Vampire raise dead but based on Chaos Corruptions.
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>>172234245
Not really though.

In my kholek campaign I savescummed the first siege because it was my first time using him in a battle and I fucked up a bit - after that I haven't had to savescum at all.

In a Chaos campaign you need to play risky at the start so you learn how to win losing battles as chaos - there's no point turtling for 50 turns until you have a decent horde and then not knowing how to play well enough to use it.
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>>172234242
Naggaroth and Lustria are over twice the size of the current map.
Ulthuan is something like half the size of Naggaroth on top of that.
This would lend itself to the ETW 'theatre' mechanic.

The Dark Lands are roughly the same size as the current map, and could work with 'theatre' mechanics by just usign the existing passes in Worlds Edge Mountains.

The Southalnds, lands of the Dead and Araby, well, thats another continent of maybe twice the size of the current map.
Theatre movment would feel weird here, because there are no passes or huge bodies of water in the way.

And I don't even know if tehy plan to have Araby at all.
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>>>172231087
Fix for Gelt's Pegasus unlock level.

'Bout time
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>>172222692
>>172223051
what? i thought the souls of sigmar/ulric/whatever worshippers were protected from the demons? The only humans who get eternally tormented when they die are the chaos worshippers
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Are Darren's leaks deliberate or is he just incompetent and if so, why hasn't he been fired yet?
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>Everyone expects Lustria
>it's actually gonna be Southlands and KANGZ

you just watch. Settra always has the last laugh.
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>>172235272
>The only humans who get eternally tormented when they die are the chaos worshippers
That's just a straight up southlander lie, Chaos takes care of its own. You just be a faithful worshipper and they'll take you to paradise when you die.
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>>172235013
they already moved things around in the old world IIRC so it's not true to warhammer lore completely.

I don't think they'll keep Naggaroth and Ulthuan the size they're meant to be, I think they'll shrink them down so it's more manageable to do a grand campaign with all the warhammer world.
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>>172234359
what are the tech requirements for playing this game at the highest possible settings?
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>>172235013
i can see it now the Dark Lands are just going to be one massive Badlands bowl its just one whole fucking map of Badlands bowl 2.0 with dorfs and ogres and orcs
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>>172235320
what leak?
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>>172235542
Darren's been leaking almost every single TWW DLC announcement.
>>
>>172235426
>True to warhammer lore
Eh
The size of and placement of the continents changes every time the warhammer world is drawn
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>playing as Leoncour
>focused on being buds with the other Dukes and getting rid of Marienburg
>friendly with Empire
>find out Franz has been encroaching onto rightful French clay
What do I do lads? I wanted to confederate the other duchies and then pal it up Franz to wipe out chaos shits, but the dude has taken several cities that should be mine.
>>
>>172231087

>Chivalry is no longer gained for torturing people in during Quests.

wait what that was a thing?
>>
>>172227943
It's not that they've become evil, they're just undead. The Lady can't protect every body.
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>>172235737

Swear loyalty to the prince and emperor?
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>>172235829

>The Lady can't protect every body.

Are you a peasant?
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>>172231087
Why are they nerfing Bretonnian shit - especially when Foot Squires are already worse than most other great-weapon infantry, and Questing Knights aren't so OP that they need a nerf? Why can't I build a wall in Couronne anymore?
>>
>>172235929
I'm just saying, if you die in Mousilion, you're rightfully fucked. If you die in Athel Loren, you're probably pretty damn fucked. If you get caught in a shipwreck, you're very fucked.

Nobles do have grail chapels and graveyards set aside, where they rely on the Lady to protect them, but not every noble gets in those, obviously, or every grail knight. And peasants can only rely on Morr.
>>
>>172235432
a real good cpu mainly,but here.
these are what you are looking for anon.
" MSI GeForce GTX 1060 Gaming X 6G | Intel i7-5820K | 16GB @ 1080p"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plf7tQQW-AQ
>>
>>172236262
Alriggghhhhhttttt! I have saved up money for 6 months now and can finally afford to replace my 7 year old toaster. Im gonna get this for 1256 euros

https://www.komplett.se/product/11144#!tab:extra
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>>172236262
I dropped 1750 on a computer last October and I've never had a better time playing tw.
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>>172236262
>falling for the moar cores meme
Same gpu, same settings, 6600k
+10 FPS and a smoother frame graph
>>
>>172231834
do you guys think they'll speak english when people click on them or will they have their own language like the Beastmen and Tree people?
>>
>>172236262
>GTX 1060
AMD 480s and even a 470 are good enough for 1080p if you don't want to buy Goyvidia™
>>
>>172235426
>they already moved things around in the old world IIRC so it's not true to warhammer lore completely.
The current map is essentially rotated a bit counterclockwise, Estallia nd Tilea are shrunk, and some bits in the World's Edge Mountains are moved around (not that those places, aside from the main Dwarf Holds were ever nailed down), but it's still close enough.

Some parts of the Empire and Bretonnia are a bit empty, but I guess giving these factions more settlements would just make the AI snowball too rapidly, and they have to eventually squeeze in the rats somewhere, too.

Shrinking naggaroth and Lustria should not be a problem, since quite a lot of naggaroth is basically just marked as 'here be monsters/gobbo hordes/whatever' while Lustria has shit-tons of just 'jungle and swamps'.

Though I guess at least some parts of the DE campaing should include catching those Gobbos and Monsters as slaves before murderaping Ulthuan and everyone else, while the Dino campaign should include clearing our Rats from those swamps before remove chaos REMOVE CHAOS FROM PREMISES.
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>>172237343
Both, both is good. Theyll hopefully have some *SUMMON THE ELECTOR COUNTS* tier quotes, but the rest will probably an autistic slann frog screeching
>>
>>172237194

Actually CPU affects FPS in TW heavily
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>>172165669
I wasn't aware any of them did, not sure what the meme is here
>>
>>172237848
The game needs higher clock speeds instead of more cores
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>>172237991

Incorrect, TW benefits from 8 cores

I regret falling for the "you just need an I5" meme, never going to listen to fags on /v/ ever again
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>>172237848
Of course it does, the point is that getting jewed by intel for more cores is pointless since a quad core with higher clocks will beat the moar cores cpu
>>
There better fucking be some shrek references in the ogres voiced lines
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>>172238164
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/core-i7-7700k-processor-review-desktop-kaby-lake,18.html
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>>172236848
I'd get a single 8gb stick of RAM so you can upgrade easier later, if you want to.
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>>172238319
SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME THAT FRANZ WAS GONNA ROLL ME
>>
new thread when
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>32gb for a FUCKING PATCH
>I had to delete 2 other games I wanted to play
>Only have 5gb left on my ssd
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>>172236848
Good in principle, though you might want to wait a tiny bit and look around for graphics alternatives.
Vega will happen practically next week, and that should mean prices for 'old' stuff dropping a bit.
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>>172238890
wat
My update was 127mb
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>>172238164
>listen to fags on /v/
Yeah well I could've told you that ten years ago.
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>>172238958
oh you're right. It was saying "32 gb free space needed to download"
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>>172238890
Uninstal TWW and reinstall. I've got the same problem where whenever there's a patch it acts like it changes every file.
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>>172237631
The current map is also way too fucking small to properly portray how vast and dangerous the old world really is.
>>
Since none of you fuckers wanted to bake the new bread I tried

>>172239440
>>172239440
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>Patch stuck on 121 MBs
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>>172238164
Just needing an i5 is true though. You don't get good value for your extra investment into an i7, that money is usually better spent on the GPU, a larger SSD or cooling. Especially if you buy an unlocked CPU for overclocking, which you should if you're nearing i7 territory.
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>start a quick Sigvald campaign to see how quickly you can unlock chosen as chaos
>autoresolve everything because it's meant to be quick and I'm meant to be studying
>get attacked whilst I'm building my dude with numbers too high to autoresolve
>"fucksake, guess I'll just have to play it"
>BASED Kilsev huts meant I got the 3rd heroic victory of all my TWW campaigns

Just goes to show how much TWW NEEDS some fucking village defence maps if 4 little huts in the middle of the map made defending against this giant stack so much easier.
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>>172238937
Thanks for the tip, im gonna wait a bit then, already waited so long, if i can save some dollarydoos it is worth it
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