/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

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watch gael just be an npc and the second phase be a pus of man enemy

>>171973831
>spoiler image for an OP
well done!

>>171973770
>Artorias of the Abyss. Kalameet's, Chester's and the Sanctuary Guardian's early models were already in the game
Is this true? I don't remember ever seeing them before the DLC launched.

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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.

>>171973954
Given what the WA on his boss weapon is, he'll at very least be friede-tier anime battle

Nth for robbed of alternative Lord of Cinder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okKJN-PNjx0

>>171973989
Yep. Chester and Arty even had artwork

>>171973989
I've seen chester's and the sanctuary guardian's, and I remember reading in some really old interview that AotA was about a plotline they'd dropped because they couldn't finish it by the deadline.

>3 bosses, one is npc
>most spells are confirmed shit
>From already pleasing redditors with le epic plume xD and powerstanced greatmemes

At least we expected AoA to be average/shit, but this garbage is a kick in the gut

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How do you feel about the new patch?

>>171973981
We already knew that he was going to be Patches weeks ago when we translated his name. Pretty sure we also already knew from previous leaks that he shared the same VA with Patches.

dlc weapons fc?

>>171974107
DS2 still sucks my friend.

>>171974237
Load up some spares so you can drop them for participants.

>>171974107
>3 bosses
Four bosses, one is a giant. Doesn't drop a soul, but he's still a boss.

You've seen two out of six spells, and both were miracles.

All the weapons look pretty good so far, except maybe for the Aquamarine Dagger.

We still don't know what happens when you give the loli her paint.

You can go home now.

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Where can I get the ID's for DLC2's items?

>>171974103
>Chester and Arty even had artwork
I know that they're in the design works, but didn't that come out post-DLC?

>>171974081
>(possible The Ringed City DLC OST)

Why did this guy add this to every cut song title? What a retard.

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You see this? The top one is a character with 7 luck and the bottom is one with 45 luck.

Both were done with a single r1 from a +9 poison infused Rotten Ghru Curved Sword.

My luck build is worthless.

Any webms of the new spells? Wondering how Great Soul Dregs looks.

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Have the dataminers found out why there's two bonfires in Friede's boss room in the trailer yet?

>>171974282
I'll drop some when I get my character up and running, haven't played in ages

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Post your favourite boss from the game. This is mine haha :) I cant wait to fight Gael, I'm really excited for him. Fuck the lore fags xD this is the best FROM game, Demon Souls is 10 years old and looks like shit LOL

What sort of build is Ringed Knight Straight Sword for?

>>171974320
he will repeat his post after some time again dude

WAIFUFAGS HEAR MY CALL!

Ideal body sliders for maximum slut souls?

>>171974439
People who still think mixed damage is acceptable three games in.

Anyone got Gael's greatsword stats?

You guys just don't understand. Gael isn't a literally who and a complete disappointment as the final boss of the series because he'll have a phase that copies some assets from Manus.

>>171974430
dammit

>>171974439
Does the sword strap to the hip like a straight sword or on your back like a great sword?

>>171974391
Because the 2nd DLC has two possible entrances.
The intended entrance is in front of snek in Friede's boss room, and is that second bonfire you see there. The two DLCs are directly linked like that.

The alternate entrance is in the kiln and is for players that didn't buy AoA

>>171974320
>he's a boss but he's not a boss
>so what if 1/3 of the spells are garbage? the rest is surely good
>all the weapons look good besides powerstaced shit, reused content number 5697, useless bow, infinite throwing (reused) knife and whatever
>we still don't know what happens if you do X but it's sure good

kys

>>171974439
It mainly scales with STR but also has D scaling in DEX.
So below 100 it's a strength weapon
At 120 it's quality.

>>171974065
care to post a webm ? p pls

>>171974430
>Fuck the lore fags
>Demon Souls looks like shit LOL
Ironic shitposting doesn't make it any less true.

>>171974552
It's probably like the darksword and gets stored on the back.

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Anyone know the stats on this thing?

>>171974401
>steam deletes my game folder and starts downloading everything
well fuck me

>>171974520
19/13 C/D str/dex
>>171974617

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>>171973989
There are early versions of Kalameet, Chester, and the Sanctuary Guardian, but not Artorias.

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Finally you can frosbite things my love

>>171974439
It's B/D, so primarily strength. 15 dex requirement, though.

>>171974480
It has 20 fire AR, anon. That's just there for the 'sealed by fire' flavour text.

>>171974649
Good stuff. Thanks, anon.

>>171973954

>Stage 1 is a crazed and powered up Gael with a little shit coming out of his back like Gundyr
>Stage 2 is a super powered, unique Pus of Man coming out of his back
>Phase 3We fight a completely unleashed, super powered, and complete Pus of Man, finally seeing what it would look like if it came out, but still incomplete.
>Phase 4 it matures fully into a Dark/Light Angel

Also, anyone notice that Gael is in the vast ash desert, and possibly directly until the focal point of the leaking Sun?

>>171974364
luck is only good for luck mages anyway

the new INT scaling throwing knife thing better be a decent replacement for great farron dart. it'll probably throw that the kukris though and end up being trash

>>171974380
seconding this

>>171974617
Looks like a beat up Executioner's Greatsword

>>171974617
Identical to the normal exec greatsword.
It has the claymore's moveset with a unique WA though.

>>171974556
>tfw I have to beat Friede a second time in order to get into the DLC from the "normal" route

I mean, I was going to do it anyways to get muh flayul, but I'm not good at fighting that boss.

>>171974657
>not using 110 frostbite Vordt's greathammer


You only need two hits.

Anyone else take a performance hit since the patch?

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>>171974335
http://pastebin.com/S1dJjeE8

>>171974480
"Split damage is bad" is a meme. Gargoyle Flame Spear has split damage and it was meta. It varies from weapon to weapon. In the case of the Ringed Knight SS most of the damage comes from physical so the Fire is just there to help in PvE against things like Pus of Man or the Birch Men in AoA. It will still do good damage in PvP.

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>>171974467

These

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>>171974557
>kalameet didn't drop a boss soul, therefore he isn't a boss
>sanctuary guardian's soul didn't make anything, therefore it isn't a boss
>"all the weapons look pretty good so far except for one" suddenly becomes "lel evertyying is shitd lelxd"
>we still don't know what happens if you do X but it's sure bad

You first.

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Zullie can you tell me how to override player animations.

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>>171974701
There are actually several variations of Chester. His black Zwei has a model for the player also.

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>>171974617
27/40 is 504AR.

>>171974719
>multiple phases
This meme needs to die.

>Improved motion of normal attack for Ultra Greatswords, Great Hammers and Curved Great Swords.

They made them faster or... ?

>>171974728
>luck is only good for luck mages anyway
The fuck? I thought using the luck scaling staff was weaker than just plain int.
>it'll probably throw that the kukris though and end up being trash
It doesn't dude! It throws like normal throwing daggers, I just saw a CE wizard showing stuff off ingame just a few minutes ago.

>>171974719
>the focal point

Stop.

>>171974973
Post staff stats with 60int

>>171974838
I don't think the giant is the boss, I think he simply summons a player and its an old monk scenario.

>>171974994
Multiple phases has been a thing since DS1.

>>171974612
Why do you bother play this game? If you want a nice looking 2 dimensional flashy game, others do it way better than FROM

>>171971551
Is this Anon still here ?
Could you transfer stuff with someone else or do you still need help to do so ?
Sorry it took so long

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Stop being so fast /DSG/.

>>171975056
>I thought using the luck scaling staff was weaker than just plain int
Yes.

>>171974973
That thing is just a staff with a crazy weapon art, right? Not a weapon that casts spells? Can you post the stats at +5 or whatever it upgrades to?

>>171975056
>The fuck? I thought using the luck scaling staff was weaker than just plain int.
It's is. Luck staff is utter garbage. Will be better if they fix spell power and buffs

>>171974994

>Final boss of the find Dark Souls DLC where Miyazaki said he wanted this to be a big challenge won't have multiple phases, even though all the other known DLC bosses do.

Get over it. The meme is real and we didn't make it up.

>>171975135
Isn't Manus and Orstein/Smough the only one with multiple phases?

So what weapons are now /dex/ and benefit from going sharp 60 instead of 40/40?

>>171975059
>Stop enjoying the game on an additional level REEEEE

>>171975030
Great hammer 1hr1 is way faster at least.

>>171975198
ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>171974960
There's a function called SpStayControl in DaS1 Debug. What I did was find that same function in DaS3. It'd be kind of hard to describe how to find it if you're not intimately familiar with the similarities between the games.

>>171975096
>>171975210
The WA has no range. It's 229 Spellbuff at 60.

>>171975210
Then what is the point of a luck mage? Luck is all around worse than everything else now.

>>171975193
I've got somebody else on their way. Thanks anyway though.

>>171975148
Because I like the gameplay. What makes it two dimensional? The lack of pretend lore? Please.

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>>171975362
I'm sorry ;-;
Forgive me

>>171975304
There's no focal point for a point source ya dingus.

>>171975297
Gargoyles, BoC, O&S, and Manus all had more than one phase.

I don't really know what the complaint over multiple phases is. The whole multi-phase thing has been ramping up since DS1 anyway so it's not really exclusive to DS3. Hell, most bosses in BB usually had 2 phases.

>>171975359
>229 Spellbuff at 60.
Woah. I hear this staff buffs dark spells. New one spell

>>171975361
The purpose of luck is to suck.

>>171975297

Bed of Chaos

>>171975359
I was asking for a picture of the stat screen. As in, requirements, scaling, etc. Just INT scaling or both INT and FTH? You know, the things that actually matter.

>>171975361
There is no point of a luck mage, and luck has always been all around worse. The whole reason Man-Grub Staff exists is so your Anri's Straight Sword character can cast Great Heavy Soul Arrow or Snap Freeze.

>>171975508
So, you're thinking of the Murky Longstaff. This one just stabs things with magic chopsticks.

>Of all the Fingers, he alone was embraced by the Abyss.
>For he was human, and ne'er a grub.

Would "???" (I'm assuming from a locust NPC), be referring to Gwyn, Nito, Witch and Daughter, and the furtive pygmy as the fingers?

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>>171975450
No worries. I forgive you, anon.

>Sharp Crow Quills (12 str 40 dex) - 364 AR (down from 389)
The DLC pay-to-win is real. Now that the new DLC2 is coming they made it standard just like other weapons.

>"buy the season pass, goyim, i know you want the upcoming super amazing weapons"

>>171975561
no nigger he's talking about in-game NPCs, that's Leonhard

>>171975056
it is, but you can pair it with anri's and a hollow infused parry tool

the mix ups available are great, staff weapon art for increased spell damage, fire/lighting bundles for anri's as man-grub's luck scaling doesn't affect weapon buffs.

performs very well around SL100-150

going higher than SL120 just opens up more spell variety, but you also have to be wary of the extra VIG and AR people closer to SL150 will have.

I think it's the most satisfying spellsword build available

>>171975561
Rosarias' Fingers anon.
He is talking about Leonhard.

>>171975561
>fingers
>grub

Fingers of Rosaria, you dummy. He's talking about Leonard.

>>171975561

No, that line is specifically about Leonhard. All of the lines are about the people from Firelink Shrine.

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>>171975564
T-thank you

>>171975575
>Sharp
>40 dex
lmao
Quills are not even strong

>>171975639
Who's the thumb?

>>171975561
Rosaria's Fingers, my dude

>can't hit 60 fps on ps4 pro
what a piece of shit

So is Great Lance worth using yet? I kind of want to do a build with it.

>>171975765
No shit. You need a better CPU for that, Sony went cheap as always.

>>171975740
>thumb
>finger

You're a joint short bub

>>171975852
It's usable but not great. Still a thousand times better than pre-patch.

should I respec to dex or strength. Should I stick with my quality build?

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>just found out after like 8 playthroughs that dagger serpent men can parry and riposte

Still lookin' for a Prisoner's Chain on pc if anyone would care to donate.

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These will probably be good for invasions. almost 600 physical AR at 40/40.

Post yfw the final boss has 15 phases and the final phase is a combination rhythm-bullet hell while you answer cryptic sphinx riddles about the lore before he can succeed in summoning the Bed of Chaos

>>171975983
what is your own opinion?

>>171974834
kinda sexy looking

>>171976029

I'd play it.

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>heavy claymore in 2H on 40 STR has more than 500 AR
what is the point of refined then

any new rings in the dlc?

>>171976087
>Any new RINGS in the RINGED city?
No.

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they changed the Man-serpent Hatchet from being exactly the same statwise as the Battle Axe to being a sharp infused weapon.

here's a smug vampire

>>171976087
The city is in a ring

>>171976027
But
>you need tons of poise

>>171976027
Looks pretty bad with how the left-hand sword doesn't have some sort of unique carry animation or at least mirrors the right one.

how can ds3 pvp be so shit after ds1 and 2 did it pretty well?

are red phantoms just compeltely fucked now? reduced every stat, estus and no help vs 3 person ganksquads anytime

wheres my fun at come on from

>>171976081
Versality in weapon choice.

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No webms of soul dregs yet?

>>171976027
As much as I adore that moveset, they're too big and wide not to look goofy and more animeish than Frayed sword..

Anyone found a chest that goes with the desert sorceress hood? Alva doesn't work quite as well as in DS2.

>>171976165
What is its AR at 40dex sharp?
40str Heavy I got 443 with it.

>>171975056
>>171975641
forgot to mention

man-grub's soft cap is 45 luck and deals more spell damage than any other staff at 45 intelligence

dunno if anything has changed since I made started using the build, but it still does great post patch

Jesus Christ
>Heavy Exile Greatsword (40 str 18 dex) - 589 AR (up from 482)

>https://www.reddit.com/r/darksouls3/comments/617n2l/weapon_damage_postpatch/

>>171976261
I don't remember but I had 40/40 and from refined it was better as sharp than my battle axe. let me check.

>>171976081
>sharp claymore at 40/40 has more AR infused than refined

>>171975983
Quality's still good but between STR and DEX I'd say STR got the better end of the deal with this patch.

I want to prep for the DLC, what weapons are the new hotness?

>>171976027
This moveset looks amazing, but holy fuck the character holds the left one like a fooking SS.

>>171976224
SL 90 invasions are fun as fuck from my experience.

>>171976341
Two handing with 66 + blessed weapon is almost 800 physical AR

>>171976087
The DLC is the new ring anon

>>171975501
I think it's less multiple phases, but rather people don't like completely depleting a boss' health bar, only for it to refill all the way.

>>171976341
Heavy Lothric Knight Greatsword (40 str 18 dex) - 629 AR (up from 572)
with 40 faith Lightning Blade (Canvas Talisman) gets me 800 AR

best hyper mode weapon at the moment? or one of the new maces?

>>171976341
It's basically a token STR weapon of DS3 now.
Suits it way more than overgrown clump of shit from DS2.

>>171976139
Is anyone close to the Lord of Hollows ending? Apparently it has a new song in the credits, but cant confirm

>One met the dark with learning. But in the end, learned his knowledge was wanting.
The world began without knowledge, and without knowledge will it end.
Dost not this ring clear and true?
Fear not, the dark, my friend.
And let the feast begin.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING FROMSOFT SAYING THEY AINT GONNA EXPLAIN SHIT WHAT THE FUCK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

THE ABSOLUTE HACKS ARE NOT GOING TO EXPLAIN SHIT ABOUT THE LORE

AND WHERE IS MUH KAATHE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>171976341
https://youtu.be/Kk_CTelLbi0

The age of exiles.

>>171976261
It only gets 30 more AR as sharp, and less as refined. So I guess it's good heavy infused. It was just that sharp infused is better than refined.

>>171976587
what

Any webms of Gael's Greatsword??

>Miyazaki-san what should we do for the final boss of the entire series?
>Just reuse some random NPC from that dlc most people refunded

>>171976418
>it's true
What the fuck, Claymore's one of those weapons that should absolutely be best when Refined.

>>171976587
I'll go confirm it if you can give me an example of what this new song is supposed to be.

>>171974838
The dragon is the one who won't drop a soul because he's a legit dragon.

I liked this patch, since Im no longer locked to 40/40 on almost every weapon anymore. I dont even mind the Exile shitters

Playmore with the (Heavy) Claymore.

>>171976657
I think they intentionally nerfed refined on a lot of particular weapons that weren't intended to be quality

What are the top DEX weapons now?

>>171976636
>no HP
>no armor
>one of them has clutch ring
shit video

>>171976845
The dragon's boss soul has been datamined. He;s a descendant of the everlasting dragons, not one himself.

The boss that doesn't give a boss soul is an old monk-style encounter where you confront a beefed up player invader (or NPC). It's tied to a new covenant.

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>TOH patch in BB massively improved STR with heavy abyssals buff
>TRC patch in DS3 massively improved STR with heavy infusion buff

>>171976797
It's the same situation on the bastard sword. Also, now the claymore is pretty much neck and neck with the bastard sword in terms of AR, even at 99/99 str/dex. Although the AR differences are largely trivial.

They fucked up on how this shit works. Not to mention every elemental infusion, poison and bleed are all still pretty worthless.

>>171976787
>most people refunded

source?

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Not looking at anything else. Did Gold/Silver Tracers make it in? Did Ciaran's set make it in? Did Firekeeper Mask make it in? Thanks for any sincere replies.

SO THE RINGED CITY IS NOT FUCKING LONDOR ?????????

WHAT THE FUCK WHERE ARE THE SERPENTS AND THE SABLE CHURCH

>>171977073
Common sense. Nobody would actually pay money for that trash.

>>171977073
/v/

>>171976896
battle axe is still the best as refined, so they at least made those two weapons not the same. they had the same exact stats before, but hatchet went through shields and was longer. It's still better now i think.

So now that we know there were Pigmy Lords carrying the Dark Soul, what does that make Manus, was he the Furtive Pigmy after all?

4th boss, g-g-guys?

>>171977116
There's still a patch coming in 27th, probably more stuff is coming.

>>171977073
/v/ my dude
most trustworthy place on here :^)
Come on, Anon.

>>171977080
As far as we know right now, no to all of those. Sorry anon.

>>171977116
Sorry, man. A serpent boss fight would have been pretty hard to design, so we'll get some generic dude in armor that might reuse some Manus assets instead.

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Isn't DLC available for Season Pass holders now?

Or did I misread that from earlier in the week

>>171974430

Hi I was thank but thating me to I am that the same as the same that that the

>>171976915
New katana is here to stay for sure, weapons with sharp S scaling now deal more damage so you could check those out. I'm really enjoying my good old sharp dagger, but I've always enjoyed it so idk.

>>171977080
None of that is being added in the DLC, unless there are things that were left out of this patch.

Kind of weird they didn't shove the tracers in there somewhere when a fully functional version of them has been in the files since release.

>>171977027
Oh, true that. Forgot about the weapons and shit.

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/dsg/

Choose my build for a new playthrough.

>>171977273
Oh, please god no. Seriously?

>>171977219
>probably more stuff is coming
anon... stop doing this to yourself.

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Is it the 4th boss?

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>>171976081
>>171976418
>>171976797
>40 Strength
>2 handed
You so realize the soft cap for scaling is at around 27 instead of 40 if you 2 hand it right??

>>171977310
no

>>171977298

B-but where the fuck is the conclusion to the series lore?

I want Dark Souls I back

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>tfw wanna start PvPing
>to much of a pussy to queue up for duels or go out for invasions/be invaded
how do i cure this autism

Anyone got a spare Dragonslayer spear
Ds3 on PC

>>171977381

Imo that is the room that comes before Filianore

Thats the judicator

>>171977384
People really liked the painted world in Dark Souls 1, so they'll reuse that for the ending :^)

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>>171977378
Fuck, did they really preloaded all the shit with this patch? Fucking retards.

I couldn't remember if you're supposed to meet patches at firelink tower before or after the encounter at the church

I guessed before and went and grinded and got the tower key, but when I went up the lift patches didn't show up to close the door

I checked back at clensing chapel and siegvart isn't in the well

Did I just fuck up the questline

>>171977493
You're not missing out on anything, don't bother.

>>171977493
I just go into the Undead Match for some quick rounds against people who suck as much as me.
It's fun.

>>171977363
Faith

FRIENDSHIP WITH REFINED ENDED

NOW

SHARP

IS MY BEST FRIEND

>>171977298
Would be enough if it was a transit NPC Zone

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>>171977059
>got hype as fuck when I saw Blessed was in and Lightning scaled with FAI
>mfw I actually get the game
Please for the love of god from, buff the other infusions. I don't want LKGS to be the only weapon to be semi-usable when Lightning infused.

>>171977493
join aldrich faithful and just do all the spam invasions it gives you until you get rid of your pvp autism

>>171977546
You have to kill the boss of the area and Siegward will be there.

>>171977493
What are you afraid of, that you'll lose? Yeah, you'll lose. Why does that bother you? Everybody dies in dark souls. The point is to have fun doing so.

>>171977550
really? isn't PvP the funnest part of this game?

Can any lorefags discuss the datamined shit?

Very very little info is given, instead FROM decided it was nice to give even more pointless backstory to pointless new characters.

>>171977493
Just do it anon

I had this autism too

>>171977675
It is

>>171977546
Siegward only get stuck in the well after you've opened the big double front doors of the Cathedral, unless I'm mistaken.

Either way, you can invalidade the Cathedral part of the encounter with Patches by reaching the Rosaria area before Siegward and Patches get there. But all that causes is for that sequence is skipped, and you find Patches normally in Firelink instead. Siegward will still be stuck in the well.

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15% AR boost that lasts long enough for a duel in the arena.

>>171977341
How fully functional? I'll just CE them in on a family share account and play till I get banned I guess.

>>171977648
>>171977493
>aldrich faithful
Don't listen him. Aldrich Faithful is pure cancerzone. Worst boring area for invasions.

>>171977690
$$$ that's the reason
Why should they think about implenting actual good lore, when they can Just add generic shit. Easy money

How should I build a character around the dual GS? Anybody have the scaling?

>>171977382
27/40 2H or 40/40 2H, Sharp beats out Refined for Claymore. Refined only wins out over sharp at 40/60 2H by one (1) AR and nobody's going fucking 40/60.

>>171977898

Fuck m8

I hoped at least on this one las fucking Dark Souls dlc of the last game they'd close the story a bit.

So Filianore is Gwynns daughter and the Furtive Pigmy was given a closed-off city

But what about DaS I? What about the sable church? Where is Londor and why is Londor a thing?

>>171977690
Actually this DLC seems to be providing some very interesting material, certainly more interesting and relevant than AoA did. While it does some suspect things, like adding a new daughter to Gwyn for SEEMINGLY NO REASON AT ALL, it fleshes out primeval humanity and its customs, and expands on Kaathe's dialogue aboug Gwyn blurring the origins of Man and its ties to the Dark and the Abyss.

I'd say that, at least from a glance to what we've seen so far, it seems to be on par with AotA on exploring a little known but important part of the lore and letting us know more about it. Unlike the base game introducing completely unrelated concepts like angels and the Profaned Flame and whatnot.

>>171977909
40str, else doesn't matter

WHAT

ARE

THE

NEW

META

WEAPONS

>>171977690
>g-guys dark souls 2 actually sold more copies than dark souls 1.. its not even a finished game
>I wonder if we can put one boss in a dlc and sell it for $15?
>Oh my god these fags will buy anything
>Give them a demon, a dragon and GAEL LMAO in the final dlc, they won't dare complain

>>171978083
Exploding heavy curved swords

>>171978083
Heavy Exile Greatsword with Blessed Weapon.
Hits almost 800 pure physical AR.

>>171978129
Wait, hasn't there been a shitposter like this for every dlc since dark souls 2?

>>171977750
>15%
Actually pretty solid, I'm impressed.
Not huge obviously, but on a 650 AR weapon that's almost 100 damage. With a good duration that's one of the best buffs in the game.

Is it lost if you change weapons?

>>171978083
Heavy exile GS
Pontiff CS
Plow

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>>171978129
>>171977690

>>171978031
>it fleshes out primeval humanity and its customs, and expands on Kaathe's dialogue aboug Gwyn blurring the origins of Man and its ties to the Dark and the Abyss.

How

They're just normal shitters and corpses like we saw in the Undead Burg.

And what the fuck is up with Yorshka and Filianore being even more daughters of Gwynn. There was only one empty altar in Anor Londo for one statue of one person which we thought was either Gwyndolin or the firstborn

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>>171977750
>this is allowed
>but Sacred Oath is nerfed to uselessness in PVP and costs almost twice as much FP
Just keep twisting the dagger FROM

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anyone know the reqs/stats of the Paired shields?

>>171977750
So, exile can go up to 920 AR?

>Briefly skim through updates, hear exile greatsword got some manner of buff.
>Oh boy, my Sharp Exile Greatsword's gonna get even stronger since it already has A scaling right now!
>Start the game to find that my Dex weaponfu is a Strength weaponfu
>Forgot to fight Alva this cycle, so no Murakumo either.

A-at least I don't need to invest any more points points strength, eh? Curved Greatswords are silly anyway!

>>171977298
I'm not even asking for a boss fight, can I at least fucking meet them again? Clearly they played a large part in Lothric and Kaathe is mentioned by name.

>>171978238
Yet no one said it about Bloodborne and dark souls one, could that be because FROM actually put effort into those games?

>>171978374
40STR, IIRC

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>>171978374

>>171978482
As far as we know we might actually find their corpse. We haven't seen the areas.

>>171978418
>slabbed an exile GS on my pure dex build just a few days ago
>now this
It hurts

>>171976628
From what we've gathered from the Japanese text of Yuria's and that mural in Friede's boss room it would seem that Kaathe and Frampt are dead and were possibly killed by two of the sisters of the sable church, while Yuria tried to carry out Kaathe's last wish, which was the usurpation of the flame.

>>171978482
I bet the locust area will show a skeleton or two.

>>171978525
Thanks

>>171978509
We don't know much about the Gael fight 2bh.

>>171977750
>>171978240
Yew. It can be infused too and the buff works on spells so it could be good for pyromancy. I don't know how the buff works in PvP though, I assume it's shit.

>>171978725
Considering he's the final boss, uses that awesome weapon art, and the crossbow, alongside with the dark soul, I expect an Artorias tier fight.

>>171978561
You will meet both of them in the final hidden area

>>171978329
Have you not been reading the item descriptions that have been dug up?
For instance we now know for certain that primeval man were actually quite a formidable fighting force, on par with Gwyn's knights themselves. Ringed City Knights wield arms and armor forged and infused with the power of the Dark and the Abyss, and the primeval men actually helped in the fight against the Everlasting Dragons, for which Gwyn apparently gifted them the Ringed City in return, and crowned one of their own as a Lord as well.

But then later on a seal of fire was placed on the entire place, which mirrors the seal of water placed on New Londo to contain the Darkwraiths and the Four Kings. Basically, to quote a different Anon Primeval Men seem to be actually well-adjusted, more stable fighters that have a greater control over the Dark without turning into edgy "I'll eat your soul with my blood red hand" dickwraiths.

What Scythe do pure dex players use? I know fuck all about scythes at this moment. Are they better in 40/40?

>>171977116
>dlc entrance is in friede's boss room in front of the snake statue
>he seriously thinks it has nothing to do with londor
time is convoluted

>>171977505

Sure, I can give you one if you still need it. Would you happen to have any of the Alva armor or Murakumo?

>>171978329
Filianore was abandoned during the very end of the dragon wars, so Anor Londo was probably build AFTER she fucked off, no point on making images of her.

Yorshka COULD be Gwyn's child, but could also just be polite and religious dorkmoon, and she is also a bastard dragon abomination, you aint making statues for that OR gwyndolin. Gwyn only cared for Nameless and Gwynevere, the other two were tools fo his staying in power.

>>171977378
>>171977542
>>171977219
>>171977116

I don't think they'd preload literally everything in a patch before release, that wouldn't make much sense. I could see them pre-loading half of the shit now and the other half on release day. If they pre-loaded everything it would make the DLC susceptible to being hacked and people playing it early.

Though this is Bamco we're talking about, the Japanese emperor of retarded decisions when it comes to spoiling shit.

I JUST FAT ROLLED AND IT'S FASTER? SOEMONE ELSE CHECK THIS. I'm 90% and it feels like das1 med roll

>>171978961
>you need to have purchased and beaten the previous dlc to access the new dlc
Weeeeeak.

Wait so, is the preacher's arm a catalyst? I can't find any useful info on it

So....are we actually gonna get an additional boss if we turn in the pigment? Or is it all crap?

>>171977542
They even announced it too, so I'm sure they knew exactly what they were doing. They didn't preload the map data this time so cheaters can't actually get in, and the patch on the 27th says it'll have the rest of the patch, so we already know we haven't seen everything yet.

>>171979074
Thee's two entrances, one in the first DLC and another at the Kiln.

>>171979074
It can also be accessed at the kiln if you don't have AoA.

>>171978329
>>171978987
It's important to remember that Yorshka refers to Father Gwyn and Sister Gwynevere in the exact same wording as Gwyndolin's pledge in the first game.

It sounds more and more like simply a formal ceremony for the induction of new knights to the ranks of the Darkmoon than actually referring to blood relations. But there's no conclusive evidence either way so far.

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>>171979042
Holy shit, samefag here. It's true. You recover from fat rolls faster now. This is sneaky. Someone tell me I'm not dreaming. This feels good. I'm 90% full havel.

>>171978987
Or she's the secret shame/betrayal he needed to backstab the pygmies.

>>171978987
Yorshaka might be Seath's child, the new chick is a descendant of him and she's in a church full of spear users.

Deleted my main save a while ago for some reason. What would be the best weapons for blitzing through the game to prep a new character for the DLC?

>>171978617

What does the text say?

The mural depicts two hooded figures releasing two white snakes on to some undead

The painter girl is Ariamis.

TIME IS CONVOLUTED

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Please teach me how to item swap the dlc item i'm stupid

>>171979213
>>171979042
I actually am sensing a difference too I think.

>>171979213
actually now that I think about it this might be the usual. I haven't played in a long time.

>>171979098
SOMEONE ANSWER ME PLS

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>>171976081
>Sharp Greataxe has more AR than the Heavy version

>>171979332
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddqhh3LyzwA here's a good video for reference.

Showcase
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln94p8YG4ao

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>>171979098
>>171979365
Nobody knows, we don't have all the DLC data yet.

Why would GFS not be a meta weapon anymore? It still has the reach, the only nerf was that it is a little slower now, not a big deal

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>>171979434
>a sharpened blade has more AR than a blunt blade

>>171979145
>>171979189

But they don't take you to the same place, right? I hope the AoA entrance has something extra because if not there would be no reason for it to exist

>>171978725
Doesn't matter.
If he's the final boss FROM is just going to make him needlessly anime and have him jump around everywhere on some cirque du soleil shit.

Any list of weapons that changed to heavy/str and sharp/dex like the exile, rapier, etc?

>>171979497
First, music in the video was on point.
Second, I kinda think it's just a tiny bit faster, but I'm honestly not good at measuring these things. I should leave it to the professionals.

>>171978972
I may have a spare murakumo on my main, let me check, wanna do high wall bonfire, pass dsg?

>>171979098
You only get to fight the hidden boss if you beat DLC2 before killing SoC then go back and finish him with it in your inventory

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>>171979434
WHAT THE FUCK IT'S TRUE

>>171979850
NOOOOOOOO

NO
FUCK NO

>>171979850
Please tell me this isn't true. Fuck that noise.

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>>171979434
>Sharp Greataxe
You're shitting me. What the fuck.

So are Heavy/Sharp builds viable now? Can I finally move away from QUALITY builds for every single one of my characters?

Is Carthus Bloodring worth it?

>>171978902

>But then later on a seal of fire was placed on the entire place, which mirrors the seal of water placed on New Londo to contain the Darkwraiths and the Four Kings.

that's the first flame, right? the undead have been decieved that linking the flames is meant to keep the flame from fading, but it's actually just refreshing the fire seal on their souls.

>>171979909
>>171979970
Are you people retarded? Of course he's making shit up, the patch doesn't have any PvE data.

>are you people retarded
Wait, forgot I was on reddit.

>>171979810
>>171978972
Oh I looked, I don't I'm afraid was certain I killed Alva this run
Still okay to get the spear?

>>171979538
WHOA HWOA WHOA

EXPLAIN THIS PIC PLEASE

>>171978564
>Crow Quills got nerfed too
This pure Dex build was bliss just a week ago. Now it's just pure suffering.

>>171979810
Sounds good, I'll put my red sign down. My guy's name is Clancy.

>>171979305

what?

painter girl is a daughter of ariamis at best

ariamis, ariandel, and artorias are all ringed city royalty.

>>171980020
Only if you are playing <30% weight and a fast weapon.

>>171979909
>>171979970
After you finish the second phase, the Dark Soul takes possession of SoC and you have to fight the Soul of Disparity to get the hidden ending which permanently returns the world to the Age of Ancients

>>171980003
Looks like it

>STR weapons are better with Sharp infusion
Leave it to From to have the chance to make everything right but fuck everything up again. Jesus Christ.

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>>171979979

what are the best light armors to use during pvp?

>>171980190
Thanks, you can have my Alva set of my main since I don't think I use it for anything and he'll be on the next NG+ soon anyway
After i summon you get your character and I'll out my sign down for the armor

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>>171978780
With the buff, 3 fire rings, and flynns you can get quite a large boost to pyromancy damage.

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>>171979538
When you put that on does it make a splash? How did you get it? Does it have stats?

Non elemental infusions were a mistake

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>>171980173

>>171980119

Sure thing, it's no biggie.

Is there an FC up? Can we start testing this shit out? I'm getting anxiety thinking about the fact that we can finally move back to STR/DEX builds and have to think about building a new character now.

>>171979779
it's the same... I'm sorry

>>171980358
>webm
I feel like this very greatly invalidates Fire Whip
Not that it was really of any use outside of DaS2

The Lothric Knight Greatsword is now better Sharp, dex builds can into hyperarmor

>>171980263
That would actually and unironically be the coolest thing. But it will never happen.
I like the idea that something cool would happen if you returned all the Lord Souls to the First Flame.
Also make its boss weapon have a weapon art called the Pain of Ages.

>>171980423
Thanks, will have my sign down in a second

>>171980358
Does that have rolling and running attacks like farron flashsword?

Can anybody give a poor returning anon a link to the latest ce tables?

>>171980484
PCFCBFs are back?

>>171980735
for what? so you can use it in your left hand? are you mad?

Is quality nerfed now or what?

>no bone fist
time to kill myself

There are items and dialogues missing from the datamine, yes?

YES?

is undead settlement fucked up for anyone else when you get summoned as a phantom there

>>171981197
We don't know.
We have no way of actually knowing right now.
Just wait until monday.

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>wake up
>this is still real

what a time to be alive

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Could someone post the weapon stats please ?
Just the Splitleaf Greatsword

>tfw the gael boss fight is meant to be a surprise
>tfw data miners ruined it

it's supposed to go like this:

>reach the ruined outskirts
>discover a small, insane man dressed like a king
>"Adaman the hollow king"
>kill him and he turns to dust
>cutscene
>gael appears, extremely upset, there's nothing but ash
>crouches down slowly, gently takes the dark soul from the corpse
>thrusts it into himself, and tells you to slay him, to retrieve the pigment.
>phase 1 is a normal NPC battle, difficult but fair
>phase 2 at 50% hp, he becomes blackflame and gets extremely aggressive with new spells and attacks
>when he dies, he falls to the ground and starts screaming
>limbs start bursting from within him, explodes into a weird ghost-white cross between a pus of man and manus.
>finally kill him, beast retracts, and he falls
>his blood seeps black, which drains towards an ancient stone door
>it opens to a secret final area
>The World's End
>final boss is Avatar of Man, Lord of Darkness

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>>171979502
>soul dregs
WHY

WHY NOT GIVE US THE CRAZY THING FROM THE TRAILER?

FUCK YOU FROM

Any changes to my dear Sword of Judgement?

>>171979289
In the Japanese text when you kill Yuria she says something to the effect of "I've failed to fulfill your last wish, Kaathe"

As for the mural I've heard it also described as the two hooded figures stabbing the snakes or standing over two beheaded snakes.

>>171980508
At what point does it become better than heavy? will it still outperform 66 str at 40 dex?

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Any tips for a faith build in DS3? I have never tried one out before.

>>171981347
>a mix of npc fight, several phases and reused garbage disguised as fanservice

sounds real to me

What's the best weapon to pseudo-speedrun through base game? Raw ASS?

>>171981594
don't

>>171981257

>enter secret area after the Gael boss fight
>reach the final boss
>it's the true furtive pygmy
>he's not what we expected
>he's the lord of moonlight, illumination of the abyss.
>wields Old Moonlight Greatswordwhich ignores shields like the one from DeS

>>171981347
Are you 12?

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>>171981669
>Raw ASS
Raw ASS is always good.

>>171981594
they're pretty straightforward, get the rings, sunlight spear and a catalyst of choice

>>171981594
Canvas Talisman

Stake is fun.

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>You can stunlock as long you have stamina with Painting Guardian's Curved Sword two handed L2

What the fuck? I don't remember this being a thing before?

>>171974834
What legs are those?

>>171981778

I get more damage with 15 str on a heavy ASS than I do with raw ASS. raw is kinda shit now even without any stat investment.

>>171981830
They probably tried to stealth buff the speed of the WA and fucked it right up instead.

>>171981594
Stake. Stake is you're friend

>tfw can't use the dual greatswords because you carry the left one like it weighs nothing
muh autism from why

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>>171980735
I'll check.
>>171981257
It's just the MLGS.

Is Exile CGS the only weapon that now has S scaling when infused heavy/sharp?

>>171981497

I've heard a theory that the Soulfeeder might have been Kaathe, what with the mentions of eating souls of gain power and the "pungent stench". Remember Crestfallen complaining about Fraampt?

>>171981927
What? They didn't even bother to change that?

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>>171981854
Well, what kind of ASS do you like?

>make blood rotten ghru spear to screw around in invasions.
>literally nothing but gank squads spamming dried finger

thanks for ruining half the game FROM

>>171981970
check the hilt

>>171981694
>>171981594
Why not?

My best k/d ratios were from one/two shotting people with close range Sunlight Spears + canvas talisman. Never even used a right hand weapon. Good shit. Probably ill roll it again in the future.

30 att + sunlight spear + stake + soothing sunlight and tears of denial sometimes

>>171981594
Faith in DS3 is all about being within melee range of your enemies to maximize damage.
It'll be really lackluster early on. Lightning Spear and Great Lightning Spear are nothing terribly exciting. There are, however, three pillars that make a pure faith run quite enjoyable:

Lightning Stake. After you get it from Smouldering Lake and high enough Faith, you'll be fully capable of destroying bosses using nothing but that. Fighting Gundyr with it was a joke.

Dhory's Gnawing. Get it from Irithyll, and you'll be able to shred the Nameless King's second phase. It's also your best tool for killing enemies at range.

Lightning Blade/Darkmoon Blade. Like the Magic Weapon line of spells for Sorcerers, it basically makes you perfectly capable of beating enemies down to a pulp with a melee weapon so you can save your FP.

>>171977750
>was going to build a wall character purely for the purpose of using the door shields with GMS, and support spells on the side like Snap Freeze, Sacred Oath and Great Heal
>the Faith part of the build is rendered completely worthless by a quality-scaling pike that has no caster requirements
Well, at least this character didn't make it even to High Wall yet, so I can re-roll a better class.

>>171982007

soulfeeder was just a reference to the old one in demon's souls, which gobbled up the souls of every living thing in a 100 mile radius leaving nothing but fog.

>>171981970
no, it's the moonlight sword. there's a difference, which has just been established by this item.

>>171981970
that's literally the darksword hex from ds2

>>171981594
The resurgence of str builds will result in people using slow, heavy weapons so Sunlight Spear is effective at face trading into that for 700+ damage
Try to get a good melee weapon to compliment your build because you have no good means of effectively and consistently doing non-spell chip damage or really chasing people
Switching between Sunlight Stake and Sunlight Spear is effective against people who just want to roll at you a lot. Since they sped up Sunlight Stake, it should also match the speed of Sunlight Spear more closely now, I'd imagine. Pretty much your only good mixup
Avoid Carona
Dont expect to have anything to do until you get to Smoldering Lake. You only get Lightning Spear before that, and its shit, and its halfway to Smoldering Lake anyways. It does no damage.
Also, if you REALLY wanna try and ruin someone's anus, get Ariandel's Whip and buff yourself. Its a, what, 30% buff to miracle damage for 1.5 - 2 mins I believe? Good shit. Kinda ridiculous.

>>171982057
>>171982187
I meant the spell itself. I misunderstood.