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Naval Construction Edition

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>>171943191
l-lewd
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I knew that Pensa was a slut
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>>171943357
>>171943450
Is surgery lewd?

Do you people get off to people/botes being cut open?
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>>171943490
I can only get off to destroyer sterns.
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>>171943525
destroyers are lesbian whores
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>>171943807
Holy shit, that's a fuckload of DD's.
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>>171943140
>They only do the tier 11 thing for playable event ships

Just like I-401 was an playable event ship, right?

Leaks from the chinks a while ago basically said that the submarine along with Tone and some auxiliary ships would be AI-controlled enemies. Players would be islands with tanks from WoT serving as the gun turrets.
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>Torpedoing your ally

Yup. "Masters".
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>>171943898
Yeah! Insanely high industrial capacity!
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>>171943957
God Bless
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>>171943910
>That non-existant dud range
top quality game
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HMS Hood - Speculation Edition

Posting my personal thoughts

>bad armour, can be citadelled through the deck at long ranges (16km+)
>belt armour is very slim but will certainly do a good job at deflecting shells
>warspite guns and accuracy
>huge tonnage means highest T7 health pool of around 67k (maybe more?)
>huge length (almost Iowa) means gigantic turning circle, she'll definitely need the high HP
>decent long range AA but shit short range
>rockets will be nothing more than firecrackers
>torpedoes for those close encounters, not sure whether they will be fixed or traversable

I imagine she'll play like an oversized, faster Nagato. Looking forward to see what WG does with her.
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>>171943910
The torps will dip under their ally)))))))))))))))))
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>>171944139
Oh it definitely exists. At the range in that image they might actually be too close for the torps to arm.
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>>171944185
>class: battlecruiser
erm, are we going to see a RN battlecruiser line?!
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>>171944413
in game? For ship torps, that's about the range that you can fire and expect torps to deal damage at.
For CV torps it is farther out.
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>>171944678
No, she'll be a t7 prem.

It's nice that they outright say that it's a BC, that way everyone knows it's a shitty concept that can't really fight real battleships.
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>>171944678
Who wants BC before proper BB?
>Be RN BC
>Explode
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>>171944697
>that's about the range that you can fire and expect torps to deal damage at
"no"
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Myogi makes me want to quit this fucking game so hard. Terrible at range because the spread is bigger than entire asian continent and if you get close to anything you are sure to get instakilled by torpedoes
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shimakaze best stern
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>>171945721
>Myogi is bad

shocking
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>>171945853
feminine stern is the best stern
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>>171945853
>liking little boy butt

sick
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>>171945853
DD or CV stern?
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Why is it so hard anons?
I want to stop playing this piece of shit game but I can't.
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>>171946306
lmao no butts
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>>171946451
Because once WG gets those jewish hooks into you it's very hard to pull them out.
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>>171944697

Yeah and reloading in less than 10 minutes at sea in battle is totally realistic. I'll put my gun down when you put down yours.
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>French BB line still not released
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>>171946306
DD and DD only.
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>>171946948
Soon, angry skeleton, soon.

Then you can finally rest in peace and stop spooping the hell out of us.
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>>171946948
stop fucking posting this shit you worthless faggot
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http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/76614-063-public-test-update/#topmost
Zao and Moskva gets 2.05 Sigma instead of 2.0
What's more accurate than a laser?
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>>171946865
reloading makes sense since it is more arcadey

However point blank range torps firing that could practically be grabbed out of the air by the other ship is kind of ridiculous.
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>>171948267
A single photon?
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>>171948375
:thinking:
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>>171948303
>Reloading massive, thousand pound torps in combat is OK
>But them arming fast isnt

sure thing
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>>171948267
>Saint Louis, Henri IV, Roon, Hindenburg, Ibuki, Zao, Dmitry Donskoy, Moskva, Neptune, Minotaur, Worcester, Baltimore, Burlington, Des Moines: the salvo accuracy inside the dispersion ellipse has been increased (the sigma number increased from 2.0 to 2.05);

>Worcester
>Burlington

hmmmmmm
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>>171948507
Wasn't them arming fast due to the compression?
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>>171948479
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>>171948653
>>Worcester
Was in files for ages. WG most likely simply updates it so that they wouldn't loose any important change when they decide to finally implement it.
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So with cruisers getting an accuracy buff, it is like WG wants us to stay back and spam HE.
But that annoys baBBies to no end.
Something is not right here.
P.S. With camo and concealment module you get 1*1.05*1.04=1.092 increase in BB dispersion. Or for example 200m become 218m.
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>>171946865
Well I'm pretty sure that destroyers didn't have spare torpedoes to load anyway so they couldn't reload.
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>>171949745
a bunch of the IJN ones did.
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>>171949745
Japan did
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>>171944185
Hood's belt armor will be very good. Deck armor is weak*. 15in guns from Warspite but with a good range probably like 18km.
Pretty good AA suite.
Quick speed but poor turning, as you mentioned.
Damage control, repair party, and AA focus consumables.

*In reality, that's the only reason Admiral Holland brought Hood and Prince of Wales to turn parallel to Bismarck and Prinz Eugen. He determined that they were close enough that German fire would be coming in flatter to hit the belt and not plunging through the deck, something like 9km range, but obviously it wasn't enough.
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>>171950423
>to turn parallel to Bismarck and Prinz Eugen.
Broadsiding scrubs
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>>171948267
>quality over quantity
Why bother with Moskva when Des Memes and Minotaur can just spam shells like no tomorrow and also more accurately? I can't even remember the last time I saw a Moskva as the first in the team while the other twos aren't that rare.
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>>171951176
Moskva has longer range radar and can tank BB shells.
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>>171934890
>Things like balancing and premium ship design are not handled by some community manger/PR guy.
Yes, that's why I pointed out that the head of the 'Game Analysis' analytic team was the one answering the questions.

>>171948375
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle

>>171949745
>Torpedo reloaders visible on many IJN DDs
>comes out with this shitpost
ebin my man, simply ebin

>>171951341
The Dank Meme can tank (a) BB's shells too
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>>171951481
>The Dank Meme can tank
Hey, it can tank Bisco. And that's about it
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>>171951679
But that's too strong, need more nerfs.
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>>171948663
You mean map/combat distance compression?
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>>171945317
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6RyxBq5Cm4
>be american battlecruiser
>explode
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Other than Warspite and Hood (who is more known for exploding in a single shot than anything else), what other famous ships do the Brits have?
When it comes to WW2, the most talk I get of their war machines is always about the Spitfire.
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>>171952857
Iowa class ships are not Battlecruisers.
And at least my country has a navy.
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>>171952857
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>>171953265
HMS Hood
>12in belt
>>3in deck
>31knts
Battlecruiser Iowa
>12in belt
>3in deck
>never broke 30 kn-ts
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>>171953250
Ark Royal?
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>>171953435
>>>3(Dead)in deck

more like 3 survived lmao
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>>171953435
Isn't Iowa supposed to be able to reach 32 knots so it could keep up with carriers?
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>>171945721
>torpedoes
>instakilled with Myogi's speed and maneuverability.
1/10 got me to reply
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>>171953250
-Prince of Wales, fought alongside Hood and damaged Bismarck. Sunk by Japanese bombers in Dec. 10, 1941, along with HMS Repulse
-Ark Royal, carrier that launched the Swordfish bombers that attacked Bismarck (And HMS Sheffield)
-Glorious, British carrier that had the misfortune of running into both the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau (Didn't end well for the British)
-Glowworm, destroyer that went 1 on 1 and rammed the Admiral Hipper
-Gay Viking

Those are the ones that came to the top of my head. Other names I know just because of how cool they sound, but I don't know much about the actual ships.
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>>171953250
literally the qtest and most chaste
>>171953774
in testing after the war she never broke 30knts. the murricunts were lying about her armor so they probably lied about her speed. besides ships never sailed at flank speed carriers averaged more like 18-20 knts
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>>171953979
>Glowworm, destroyer that went 1 on 1 and rammed the Admiral Hipper
Already in game

:^)
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>>171943910
>"Masters of stealth"
>Stealth hard nerfed
>RL
Yeah no
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>>171954073
Oh yeah, that little marking on the Hipper's turret. A nice touch.
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>>171952460
desu USN CA received more buffs than nerfs
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>>171953979
Why are the brits the only ones that try to give cool names to their ships?
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>>171954227
I think Hotel has pretty cool name desu Though mostly because it sounds foreign
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>need 5 torpedo bleeds for a mission
>yeah missions.. but still 5 torps in one game, easy enough
>spend whole evening playing torp botes
>cant get it done in 12 games, even against weekend potatoes
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>>171954018
Oh shit. I forgot the Rodney >>171953979
-Only battleship to torpedo another battleship.

On the topic of the Iowas.
New Jersey got up to 35 knots following modernization in the 1960s, but her original speed was around 33 knots.
That speed was used at times. Especially when they pushed ahead to come up alongside carriers to provide AA cover. That was not regular cruising speed because it used more fuel to run full speed.
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>>171954369
>Torpedo botes
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>>171953250
Here's some.
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>>171954369
>playing torp botes
found where you went wrong
unless you mean the Fletch/Gearing
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At least it was 250 flags.
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>>171956004
*wasnt
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>>171952857
Your autism is getting worse, please seek medical aid right away.
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>>171955070
>Khabarovsk
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>>171956184
u mad
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>>171956231
What are you even implying?
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>>171954018
*knots
You accidentally a letter there my dude.
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>>171953774
>listening to the autistic Nelson poster

Go find a better source of info m8
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>>171956231
Is he getting ready for those big and hot Khaba shells?
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>>171956395
>he
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>>171954307
we wuz kangz and queen of da sea and shiet
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>>171956239
I really pity you at this point, there is no need to be upset.
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>>171953435
HMS Hood's 12 inch belt is tiny, a slither along the waterline, most of the side profile is 7" and 5"
Also, pretty much no underwater protection below the 12" belt, while on Iowa, underwater protection tapers from 12" to 1.75"

Horizontal protection of Hood is 2" weather deck + 1" upper deck + 2" main deck.
Iowa's is 1.5" weather deck + 4.7" bomb deck + 0.5" splinter deck.
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>>171956641
>>171956710
>>171956329
>>171956350

you sound really upset my dude
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>>171956710
That angled plate.
Does it mean Hood has turtleback memes?
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>>171953435
>never broke 30 knots
Enough of your retarded meme.
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>>171956910
yes
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>tfw just cannot do damage or get kills to save my life all of a sudden
I'm not even losing games but man it feels bad to just not be doing much of anything in games now
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>>171956710
>thickness in pounds
Can someone please explain?
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>>171956791
Nico nico KNEE her in the stomach
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>>171957085
im sorry that facts offend you
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>>171953435
Actually they did go 33 knots after the war. The thing is usually you never have to go full speed unless you are running away. Every ship going at it's max speed while part of a fleet would end in disaster which is why in combat most fleet would go 20-30 knots.
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>>171957442
I'm sorry that they offend you, since Iowa did and if they put her back into service as the last battleship she will continue to surpass 30 knots. Quit being a fact-hating pissbaby.
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>>171957442
I'm sorry you are ignoring the fact that the ships did go 32 to 33 knots. With Missouri going 35 for an experiment.
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>>171954369
WG told you people to git gud. Torpbotes do a fuck ton of damage.
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>>171957671
>>171957738
>>171957802

false. all war propaganda it never pulled it off after the war outside of a single cold war propaganda sesh where they further adulterated the numbers to the ludicrous. this is a fact. get used to it. no more of your false world view allowed, aspie. lol
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>>171957442
There are more than one instance of an Iowa class battleship going over 30 knots. The top speed was dependent on the load the ship was carrying, but they were designed to (and did exceed) 30 knots.
http://www.navweaps.com/index_tech/tech-029.htm Appendix II

There is nothing to be gained by lying about speeds. Not from captains/officers then and not in discussions now.
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Does Chinada have a ship worth putting in WoWs?
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>>171958075
to bad they lied about armor and aa armament. and confirmed for completely lying about speed. this is a fact. stay bootyblasted lol
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>>171958010
Wow, you sound really mad dude.
I used to get mad too, then I stopped ignoring reality, you should do the same.
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>russian devs
>making IJN complete bullshit
>cuz they lost a war against japan.
>IJN Torpedoes can be spotted from across map by a bb 25km away (literally)
>IJN guns are weak and slow reload (exc Yamato)
>IJN citadels are raised and can be citpenned by everything
>IJN has no radar
>IJN accuracy is shit
>Russian ships can snipe everything with sheer accuracy, Khabarovsk is still best dd cuz muh Russians
>RN cruisers can snipe everything from smoke from 16 km out
>USN BB's get lowered citadels.
>IJN becomes unplayable
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>>171958259
If you're not even going to try to present any counter arguments with evidence, you can fuck off because you're clearly not old enough to be using this site.
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>>171958259
>>171958398
you sound really flustered, my kid
I shall now quote the words of the great american muslim preacher Mossad Ayoob.

>you suck one cock you're a cock sucker forever
>you tell oe lie your a lierer for ever
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>>171958413
Looks like you need to git gud. Quoting the WG dev team here.
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>>171958413
>Russian devs
>Make IJN superior to literally everything at the onset of the game

really makes you think
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>>171958586
>to literally everything at the onset of the game
Yeah, the 1 other nation that we had.
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>>171958459

try not to post again in my thread unless you have something constructive to add
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>>171958642
Did you know there are multiple classes and tiers too?
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>>171958139
Their navy consisted of two Bogues, two light cruisers, and then a bunch of destroyers and armed merchants.
They were heavily geared towards escorting Atlantic convoys and later on landings in Africa and Europe. Canadian ships in the Pacific were primarily anti-sub.
As for ships themselves, none really stand out enough to be a premium and the classes already exist in the US and UK tech trees.
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>>171958413
>>IJN guns are weak
Ironically IJN BB guns have better penetration than USN at close-middle range. Though it doesn't matter.
Better accuracy does though
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>2017
>Still falling for Nelson posters b8
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>>171958461
God it must be peaceful to be that stupid. Teach me how you do it.
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>>171958951
>not collecting easiest (You)s of your life
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>>171959181
just be yourself, kiddster

t. tioga"the oh sixty"060
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>>171950423
Admiral Holland's main blunder was not sending Prince of Wales (which had even better armor than Bismarck) in ahead of Hood and using her as a damage sponge.
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>>171958951
Nelson poster is Snoozing_Mako
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>>171956910
But it is nowhere near as effective as German armor scheme (which is thicker and has a more angled turtleback) and is on par with Mutsu.
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>>171959798
stop pretending to be me
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>>171959281
Just be yourself doesn't really work, you should be saying, "Just act like me"
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>>171957262
1 ft square of steel 1 inch thick = 40.8lbs
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>>171960025
no
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>>171959398
Hood had more speed so she led. Holland wanted to close the distance quickly and get into what he saw as an advantage with all his ships being battleship caliber guns. Where as one German ship was a cruiser.

Prince of Wales wasn't even finished fully and still had technicians aboard. Her main guns were malfunctioning throughout the engagement.
I question why Holland even decided to engage but he felt he could take them or at least keep a fight going until reinforcements arrived in the form of cruiser Norfolk and a few others in the area.
Obviously he wanted to prevent a full on breakout into the Atlantic but he could have trailed and reported positions for a bit longer. Not blaming him since he was aware of the risks and tried to mitigate them, it just didn't work out.
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>HMS "detonation" Hiod instead of Roma
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>>171960549
sorry negative torpedo protection isn't parsable yet
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>The cruisers Ibuki, Zao, Baltimore, Des Moines, Neptune, Minotaur, Roon, Hindenburg, Dmitry Donskoy, Moskva will receive an increase in accuracy for main caliber artillery (tighter grouping of shells inside the dispersion ellipse -sigma increased from 2.0 to 2.05).

Epic.

They really want to kill every class but cruisers.
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>>171961092
You fucks told me they want to kill every class but BBs

Then you told me it was DDs

Now its CAs?

Fuck you guys
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>>171961092
But Moskva gets a buff.
Clearly they want to kill every class except soviet BB
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>>171961092
Historically accurate.

Do you see any battleships currently being used by any military?

>>171961229
memes But seriously, WG is trying to kill the game
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>>171950423
>something like 9km
They were over 15 km apart when Hood blew up.

Hood's deck was already immune at that range.
The irony here is that the German 38 cm guns were not particularly good at penetrating decks anyway, so staying a bit further away might have saved her.

There is a really in-depth analyiss of the hit over on navweaps.
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>>171961229
Nah.

Cruisers cried about getting deleted by CVs. What did WG do? Nerf all CVs to the ground (still is) and buff cruisers AA to extreme levels so that you don't need defensive fire to wipe out entire Midway squadrons.

Cruisers then whined about not being able to do anything because a DD spots them while the cruiser player is firing at max range and being spotted so what did WG do? Buff sonar and add radar.
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>>171960549
but Roma is coming too, just not yet because there's already another Italian premium soon.
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>>171961591
Those sound more like BB complains but they tacked it onto the CAs so as to make themselves look better.
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>>171961229
>Then you told me it was DDs
When was this? When was the last time DDs were significantly buffed?
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>>171961949
When the game was released
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>>171961949
IJN DD split were buffs.
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>>171961343
Looking back I got the km and miles mixed up. 15km and roughly 9 miles apart.
Still a significant range that required a lot of skill to be hitting at.

Looking over that report now. Looks very extensive. Should be some interesting reading.
Recently found some images of the Hood's wreck and it is all kinds of mangled.
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>>171961949
Last patch when they buffed a bunch of RU DDs like the Khabarovsk despite them already being the top performers in their class for the tier.
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>>171962053
no were of under performing )))
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>>171962007
Everything was nerfed besides two ships, one of which is getting nerfed hard now. Shiratsuyu will soon follow.
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>>171962203
WG clearly call them buffs. It has to be true. I mean, they did buff the RU DDs because they were underperforming.
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>>171962007
>12 ships
>Only 2 are any good

>>171962053
>Buffing the anti-DD DD line

Not arguments
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>>171962007
>IJN DD split were buffs

despite the old line being slapped with numerous nerfs that patch even?

And the "gun line" winding up with better torps and guns?

And what little buff there was is being neutered with the stealth changes.
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>>171962456
WG already compared the stats and IJN DDs are only slightly behind the USN DDs in damage and WR. That's a pretty significant buff.
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Mako is my little bitch; i force him to wear girl clothes and then i call him a hopeless pervert while i dump my seamen in his ass.
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>>171962824
You are gay, son
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>>171962824
CUTE!
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>>171962824
Doing God's work anon.
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>>171962824

god bless
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My name is Lovesauce and I'm not a virgin like you.

P.s I'm not an attention whore
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>When MM doesnt feel like make you its little bitch
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>>171963870
agreed
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>>171963870
>My name is Lovesauce and I'm not a virgin like you.
You got your ass violated?
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>>171961343
Reading through that now. So odd that everyone reports there was no noise or violent concussion.
Only people saying they saw a large jet of fire going out the top of Hood.
Even on the doomed ship's bridge the only indications where loss of system and then the bow suddenly pointing upwards.
Would be neat to see effects like that in the game.
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>>171956710
>>171957262
Translation to proper units would be appreciated
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>"I want to ____________ Hood!
Finish this sentence.
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>>171965353
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Anyone want to guess and fill the spaces for Hood?
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>>171965492
fool her into thinking I'll give her my last det flag so she becomes my slave
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Try my luck or more signals/camos?
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>>171965752

Wow rude!
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>>171962009
>Recently found some images of the Hood's wreck and it is all kinds of mangled.
Yeah, British and Japanese propellant had a tendency to just blow up the ship it was stored in.
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>>171965752
>I want to fool her into thinking I'll give her my last det flag so she becomes my slave Hood!

cmon
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>>171967234
then just fuck her in the stern

is that better?
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>>171965492
marry
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Is this game worth getting into? How is the grind/power creep/imbalance versus WoT?
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>our team has two Belfast, one of them without camo for some reason, while their team has no radar.
>shouldbeeasy.jpg
>they die like little bitches to a FUCKING CLEVELAND of all things
>Not even soviet raiguns can save the day anymore

Not only they had all the tools necessary, but of all things to a cleveland? Is that really the skill level of the Bellfast players after this ranked season?

>>171966619
Signals aways, unless you want some useless modules every a few weeks or so then luck.
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>>171967927
>How is the grind
Less painful. You can actually do something even if you are bottom tier, and not just spread legs and prepare lube
>power creep
So far almost every line is good though KM BB powercreeped other BB pretty hard
>imbalance
Exists
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>>171968118
Welcome to Weekend play!
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>>171968118
Look, a shitter farming damage on BBs.
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>>171967927
>Grind
Grind is much better and it is easier to do damage to higher tier opponents then in WoT.
>Powercreep
Judging by the last 3 lines added/changed in the game, there is not much powercreep. Last time there was a significant powercreep was when German BBs were added
>Balance
Certain premium ships in certain tiers are much more powerful then their respective tier counterparts, Atagoy, QTzov, Leningrad, and Payfast specifically
Balance overall favours BBs and gunbote DDs heavily, especially before cruisers get their Healpot in T9-10.
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>The V170 ship’s fore torpedo tubes’ angles have been corrected, they are now more symmetrical: the left tube’s sector has been reduced by 1 degree, the right’s - increased.
The most important change of them all
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Should I buy this
i'm not a dd player that's why i'm t4
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This thing is so much fun. On impulse I started going up the German Cruiser tree and so far it is really enjoyable.
I hope the next few tiers are just as good.

I was considering the German Battleship line, but there's already too many of them around and they're bound to get nerfed sooner or later.
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>>171968894
The half kilometer range makes or breaks the hit. Do it.
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>>171969035
Nuerenberg and Yorck are decent as long as you're outside of 12-13km. Otherwise, enjoy getting citpenned. You'll have a harder grind though, since I got to Roon when the MM update came about. Have fun playing against 8s on a regular basis.
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>>171969035
>BBs getting nerfed
>Ever
Just look at when Nagato range nerfed and BB bow armor nerf was rolled back
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The stealth fire change is going to be great. No more stealth spam. Hopefully battleships will also be buffed.
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>>171954369
pic is how it usually goes
but when there is mission for 5 floods
lol nope
19 games, 12 wins
fuck this shit im done
torps OP please nerf
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>>171969517
Being able to see them is a step in the right direction, but battleships should receive magnetic citadel seeking shells so destroyers and cruisers can no longer sit at max range and light fires period.
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>>171969386
I'm hoping at least the Nurenberg at least has good gun arcs as well. I like on the Konigsberg how I can have all the gun pointing forward so I can quickly bring them around as needed.Ideally, I wish there was a "default" gun position where I could keep the guns in their original positions.

>>171969413
I've had no problems with my American Battleships. Just really rusty with the North Carolina and give it consistently too little lead when firing.
Nagato's range was insane, combined with her speed, so a nerf isn't hurting much. Just means those sailing her need to actually fight.
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>>171969960
>I wish there was a "default" gun position where I could keep the guns in their original positions.
Too confusing for new players (((((
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>>171969940
I agree. I'm gonna send this feedback to Wargaming right now.
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>>171969940
>magnetic citadel seeking shells
>doing anything against destroyers
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>>171969960
>>171970383
engine can not handling(((((((((
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>>171970558

DDs used to have citadels anon.
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Can't wait for HMS Hood. I'm sure it'll be a blast
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>>171973457
It'll be worse than Warspite.
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>>171973541
How assblasted would britcucks be?
>>
When is the next ranked season?
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>>171973959
not for a while probably hopefully
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>>171973959
Hopefully after a substantial period where the window lickers that participated in this season have learned how to be a part of a team.
>All those German battleships fucking off to the end of the map to try to snipe, or going full retard and rushing in to use torps
>Idiots in destroyers dropping smoke en mass and the refusing to move out it to even spot, leads to all enemies being unspotted and then a wall of torps hurling into the wall of smoke
>Generally not knowing what roles each ship has: Battleships trying to shoot destroyers, cruisers attacking battleships, not focusing ships that have radar
How I made it to rank 8 is a god damn miracle.
>>
Si aparently you can farm premium account playing Warplanes.
Is it worth it?
>>
Everyone I know quit playing WoWs.

Literally everyone I used to play with before I took a break in December is gone now.

Fuck you WG.
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>>171975140
Are you from EU server by any chance?
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>>171975140
Probably because of content drought. VMF DD split was the meh heard around the world. Finally they announced some interesting stuff again like HMS Hood, Kaga and finally getting rid of stealthfire.
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>tfw will never become unicum with cruisers
>tfw i stagnated at 1290 wtr in CA/Ls
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>>171978203
Do you have a life outside of botes?
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>>171978578
barely
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>>171979151
You know what you must do.
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>resupply cost is credits
oh am I supposed to be using these
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>>171979489
Use the one that gives you -3% shot dispersion. That shit will save your life one day.
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>>171979489
No, youre supposed to horde them
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>>171980205
And by that, I mean the one that gives that perk, plus the reduced detectability.
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>>171948653
i wounder if they meant Buffalo or if there is an actual new ship.
a quick 20 sec search on google, and the only thing that came up was a US frigate
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>>171980996
nice quads
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>>171983404
wut
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>>171980996
WG makes up names for ships frequently.
>Izumo
>Myogi
>Most Russian ships
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Hey guys, gaishu isshoku here, anyone wanna join my /vg/ only SL team?

So far I have
Wave
Anumati
Myself
Prec
Greg
Neo
Tioga
Jake
Jfellow
Chain

Please let me know in discord thanks
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>>171985389
>Tioga
>Myself

What did you mean by this?
>>
>Tioga
Oh so THAT explains why this general is so shit. That fucktard and his weeb butt-buddies spread here after getting run out of /wotg/
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>>171986516
He's been shitposting and falseflagging for a little while now.
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>>171985389
sign me up, name is abrach, game is BBs
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>>171980242
post your collection
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>>171986552
>one year
>a little while

xd
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>>171986707
>tfw couldn't play during Valentine's to get the pink camo
What do those do, anyways?
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>>171986707
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>>171987086
+100% xp and commander xp and makes your ship look fabulous
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>>171987265
fug ;_;
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>>171943191
Can anyone recommend a good build for the North Carolina?
>>
Why is the Fuso so much fun?
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>>171987881
because it's the first japanese bb with as many guns as its american counterpart at the tier
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>>171987881
Gee I dunno, 12 guns? 12 fast firing guns?
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"We gotta sink the Bismarck" was the battle sound.
But when the smoke had cleared away, the mighty Hood went down.
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>>171987804
AA
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So out of the Dragons, Yorktowns, and Ark Royal, which design was best? All of them were considered the ideal carrier design by their respective nations.
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>>171990952
The British guns were aimed and the shells were comin' fast
The first shell hit the Bismarck, they knew she couldn't last
That mighty German battleship is just a memory
"Sink the Bismarck" was the battle cry that shook the seven seas
SUNK NOT SCUTTLED
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>>171991779
Dude /k/ is that way haha were talking about videogames here retard
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>>171991779
Only one survived the war and only one was considered "unsinkable."
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>>171992307
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>>171991779
Probably tie between Yorktown and Ark Royal.
By "Dragons" I assume you mean the Japanese carriers. IJN carriers had the very nasty habit of exploding because the hangar decks were typically enclosed so flammable vapors could just build up in there until a spark lit them up.

Ark Royal is an earlier design, but British characteristically had armored steel decks so hopefully any damage would be to the flight deck, which could be cleared away and repaired, and not penetrating into the ship's interior.

American carriers had the wooden decks which could be holed from, which would allow some of that stuff to vent out during fires (But damage that would be superficial to a British carrier would mean a long stay out of action for an American one) There was also the system the USN had to pump an inert gas into fuel tanks to prevent fire and explosion.

At the end of it, American and British carriers were both very well built but the British emphasized overall ship integrity a little bit more with the metal decks. Both nations had very impressive AA defense, especially compared to Japan which was lacking in that department.
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>>171992013
Oi. You knock that off right now, lad.
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>>171992842
>Public couldn't raise enough money to keep a war hero in a retirement home
I think it would be nicer to be put down rather than be stuck immobile for 70 years barely staying afloat. Even the Enterprise vets said they prefer'd that she was scrapped over kept.
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>>171993330
>Takes stand on defense of daughter
I wonder what that's all about.
>>
>>171993858
>Even the Enterprise vets said they prefer'd that she was scrapped over kept.
Wrong. Most Enterprise veterans only say that in hindsight and/or to sound tough. Many of them actually participated in the campaign to save the ship. In fact they were the ones who got the government to save the nameplate.
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>>171993008
Ark Royal did not have an armored flight deck like the later Illustrious class.
>>
>full health Tirpitz loses a fight to a half health NM at close range
>he maneuvers specifically so he can give the NM perfect broadside shots at 2km for the entire fight
>and misses his torps at the same range
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>>171993858
No. This is a stupid sentiment. Enterprise's story is a romantic, inspirational one, and being able to see and touch this piece of history and be inspired by it is worth infinitely more than than a little peace of mind.

No lewd
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>>171994306
That's why I said Ark Royal is an earlier design. Without that armored deck there's nothing that separates it it too much from the Yorktown class.
The biggest different then it the Yorktown can carry 90 aircraft while Ark Royal going get 60 aboard.
American airwings at the time are vastly superior.

Overall Yorktown comes out on top when you look at it as an actual carrier and not just a ship.
>>
>>171994454
I don't know about you, but I would rather see Enterprise in her heyday rather than how the rest of the museum ships look. (Rusting and barely floating) The only ship that doesn't have these problems is the Constitution, since she is a commissioned warship in the US navy.
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>>171995693
I think you know damn well "about" me. Being diced up by the people you protected and scattered to the winds can be spun just as depressingly.
>>
>>171995910
Reincarnation, Parts from 6 were used on 65 and parts from 65 are going to be used on 80, and such on and so forth.
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>>171996295
Anon that's not reincarnation, that's just naming your kid after yourself because you have a huge ego.
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>>171994391
See? KM BBs arent OP at all.
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>>171996410
Its totally reincarnation! They took chinks of metal, chunks of the soul of the last ship and put it in the next one. Its gypsy magic I tell you!
>>
>>171940236
>Hood will get a very short-timed barrage ability, this simulates the UP's effects.

Fuck, thats exactly how I imagined they would implement it. Maybe they could give this to jap ships too which also had AA rockets
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>>171944185
>>torpedoes for those close encounters, not sure whether they will be fixed or traversable

they will have to be fixed, because she never had deck mounted torpedoes, only forward firing ones
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>>171944185
so does she have turtleback meme armor?
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>[BOTES] lost to a literal Leddit™ team
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER?
>>
Is stock mogami playable? How much free exp should I set aside and what is the priority of modules I should buy?
>>
>>171999924
Unless you have a captain tailored to CL mogamin, she's kinda a pain. But she can still have her moments if you know what youre doing.

I recommend both rudder mods btw. Unless your captain doesnt yet have CE.
>>
>Saipan gets tier IX planes
Wowsers, I guess if you suck enough dicks and save up your nickels you can just be handed wins
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>>172000605
She only gets 3 to a squad though. They get out numbered easily or thinned very quickly if you suck dicks at this game.
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>>172000548
is this good enough? was i supposed to get turret traverse?
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>>172001049
You're really gonna wish you had the EM, but that's still fine.

You could get the turret traverse mod to speed it up at the cost of a little reload time, but that time would be made up for by AR after a little damage anyways.
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>>171985389
iI can join but would you invite a shitter like me?

DrEbolaChan

the game would either be being a baDDie or a baBBie
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what went wrong between Gneis and Bisquick?
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>>172002398
Silly Tomato, battleships cant drive. Can they?
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>>172002739
The only thing driving me is finding out the discord channel id
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>>171985389
F22XRAptor here, your SL team sucks azz join mine

So far I have
Randomgrits
Neo
Myself
zeroXwolf
JakeNS
Gaishu_Isshoku
Akogare
CloneTrooper1488
HOtel_QR
AbrulfHitler
DREvoleChan
jfellow by popular demand
>>
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>>172004018
>>171985389
>Splitting the QTest div
Shit teams tbqh
>>
>>172005167
Don't feel so lonely, Abrach. We still love you.
>>
Why is Tenjou a BB instead of a CV like cannedcoal?
>>
>>172002710
Facing Scharnhorst

Facing Yamato and Kurfust
>>
>>172005473
You mean Amagi? Because the Amagi in WOWS is the battlecruiser-turned-aircraft-carrier that was never completed because of an earthquake during the 1920's, while the one in KanColle is based on the Unryuu-class carrier built during WW2. They're two different ships.
>>
>eurobeat shrilling the armada bundle on the forum
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>>172007669
Is shrilling where you shill in a high pitched voice?
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>>172008356
He's clearly being really vocal about it.
>>
>>171992013

Didn't James Cameron's expedition essentially prove that jack all penetrated Bismark's armor belt and the inner hull including torpedoes?
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>>172009853
kinda hard to believe unless it was at very close range where the turtleback armor came into effect
>>
>>172009853
Only 2 penetrations of the 320mm belt IIRC counted in the expedition,
>>
Will we finally see more torpedo boat?
>>
>>172010925

Well the hypothesis was that by the time the Rodney was close enough to start consistently landing hits it was unable to hit anything below the waterline and was just turning the super structure into swiss cheese.

>>172011210

That and the torpedo protection doing exactly what it was designed to do.
>>
>Sorry to ruin it, but Gearing and Fletcher are not better torpedo boats.
I like this answer.
>>
>>172016416
Gearing is arguable.
Fletcher's torpedoes are objectively better than Yugumo's torpedoes though.
>>
>>172016627
You can get torp acceleration on Gearing, making it fast and hard to detect. You probably need a dedicated captain though.
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>>172016690
Shima at least has 15 torps to Gearing's 10
Yugumo has 8 torps to Fletcher's 10 which makes the higher alpha on Yugumo's torps irrelevant.
>>
>>172016803
Wouldn't the Shima hit the same amount of torps as a Gearing due to that huge detection range? The 15 torps wouldn't do much if they get spotted that far out.
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>>172017000
Yes. But Shima has higher alpha. Meaning that if same amount hits it will deal more damage
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>>172018384
Does less than a thousand damage due to torpedo protection even matter?
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:3
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I have never had a good game when the game mode is epicenter, how do i not suck on epicenter?
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>>172019562
Just camp behind an island of your liking and shoot anyone that tries to peek out.
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Why doesn't hiryuu get tier 7 torp bombers? How the fuck are you meant to drop on t9s with t6 bombers?
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>Unninstalled the game because I couldn´t endure playing myogi anymore
>Even got a premium account reward for leveling up
It´s just impossible
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>>172020543
Don't give up on your botefus!
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>>172020904
Yes, don't give up on your dreams of fat brothel
>>172020543
Anon, if you can't play IJN BB go KM BB, or USN CA or anything else.
Or get a div. Even the worst ship is okay if you can share your pain
>>
>>172021054
>fat

I want to eat those healthy thighs
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>>172021243
I would rather eat destroyer thighs.
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>>172021561
>paedophile

neck urself
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>SEA『BOTES』still ded
>>
>>
>>172022030
>tfw that could've been me, I had a game where I dropped the ball against Hiryu earlier
>tfw can't into Saipan
>>
>>172022157
were you rank 11 last ranked season and on NA
>>
>>172022216
No.
It was on faultline though, so that's spooky.
>>
>>172022157
I don't think Haruna plays ranked.
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>>172020543
Not gonna lie, former Wargaming supporter here. This is fucking hilarious watching World of Warships crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let these slavs get the sekrit documents.
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>login
>first t9 the tashkent, thanks RU DD Split
>check it out, put on perma camo
>logout
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>>172020543
There are other boat games out there.
Grats on making it out without sheckeling I assume.
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>>172023518
"No."
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>tfw loved the colorado
>hating the NC
Is there a reason why I feel so much more squishy?
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>>172023654
>given up on the game
>finding it very hard to get back to it
>750 days of premium left
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>>172023708
>buying more than a year of premium
Are you stupid or something? Why put so much into a game that fucks the player base over on a monthly basis?
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>>172023708
You on NA?
I'll dick about a bit if you want, only T7 or below however.
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>>172023794
whats your IGN friend
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Prinz is a good ship if you don't have Hipper. I do great in her and she gets nothing but love from me.
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>>172023793
Drunk.
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>>172023694
don't try to angle and swing your back turret out like the Colorado, forget you have a back turret unless you're in smoke (and get people to smoke you if possible)
just bow-on shit from mid range, and kill them before they can kill you since your magic AP murders everything
you can't get into really close ranges because you can't afford to have shit getting around your side, and you have to really watch for anything flanking at longer ranges too, learn good spots on maps where you can set up with one side of your ship beside an island, so you can pull back and hide if you really need to, but otherwise can just sit out there and bow-on with your sides safe and you able to really pressure caps/heavy traffic parts of the map
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>>172023972
>don't try to angle and swing your back turret out like the Colorado
I don't try to get my aft turret into the game that often, but I feel like I get more magical bow penetrations at long range that I'm trying to say at.

That and the guns feel... Odd coming from the Colorado, like aiming where I used to aim just isn't cutting it.
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>>172023861
I want to be bullied by prinz.
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>wake up
>see thread, it's ded
>see discord, same shitposter complaining 24/7 that is blocked by everyone

mm
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>>172024118
You don't want to be too far away since then shells will start coming down over your bow at steeper angles (not to mention harder to use the guns), you want to be mid range, ~10-16km away I guess.
The guns take a bit of getting used to since they have different arcs and travel times to the rest of the ships in the line, they do take a bit more lead than the Colorado since they have one of the slowest velocities in the game at 701m/s. When you get them coming down over the belt though for big chunks of damage (especially on German BBs who you can really start getting citpens on) it feels great, and against stuff that you might have gotten overpens on in other BBs like cruisers you can get easier citpens on. They take a bit of practice but they're really great when you get used to them.
I've still only gotten back to playing her recently but she's really become probably my favorite BB in the game to play just because her AP is just so nice to use.
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>>172023817
I don't really play that often as I find enjoyment in other games, but I hop on now and again when someone wants a few group matches.

SteelOceanShiller
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>>172024740
Thanks mate. It's just kinda a jarring transition. So with the lower velocity do I want to aim a bit below the waterline, or a bit above to make the use of the slow velocity.

On a side note, do I want to bee line for the hull upgrade, or grab the engine/range upgrades first? Because the Hull upgrade seems like a big boost.
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>>172023654
what other boat games are there nosteeloceanisn'tone
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>It's another "your team is losing so everyone runs away from the points delaying the game another 10 minutes" episode.
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>>172025316
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlestations:_Midway
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>>172025316
http://store.steampowered.com/app/420440/
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>>172024987
Hull is by far the most important. The engine is nice but you have usable enough speed as it is without it so that's 2nd, and despite already going all the way to the Iowa and unlocking it and still getting more XP on the ship I just haven't gotten the range upgrade at all because I just don't find I need it and I don't want to spend the credits.
Also since neither of us have mentioned before, stealth build is really nice on the NC too, since it lets you get into a good position without taking more damage than you need to, and lets you just disappear off the map if you're taking too much damage and need a moment to recover, as well as for surprising cruisers since 11.8km detection is pretty silly.
As for aiming it's kind of hard to say because I haven't taken much note of where I aim, I'm just kind of get a feel for it, but generally I aim a bit higher on the Germans or a ship at range especially if they're bow-on, since if you can get shells coming in over the belt and through the deck you really start chunking their health, while on something like another NC's side or a cruiser I'll still aim a little lower toward the waterline to just punch through to the cit. Again it's one of the things you'll start getting used to more with practice.
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>>172025316
if you're wanting boats, WarThunder is accepting beta sign ups now, Gunfleet's similar to how it plays out but is available now.

If you're wanting ships:Battlestations games, Navyfield apparently has a mobile game.

RTS style'd be Atlantic Fleet.
Age of sail: Naval Action, but that requires more time investment.
World of Warships and Steel Ocean'd be Call of Duty and Battlefield style gameplay while Naval Action would be more like Arma.

Dreadnought if you want Space-botes.

But still, highly recommend SO to get your ship-fix. No Russian-Jewishness that WG's known for. Been playing the last year without spending a dime.
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>>172025497
>Also since neither of us have mentioned before, stealth build is really nice on the NC too

I'm a idort and waiting Praying for a respec discount because I have a secondary build on my SC right now.
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>>172025685
According to EU there will be discount on respec.
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>>172025798
Thank god, Because i have 325 of the 350 doubloons needed to respec.
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>>172025685
You might be in luck then, with the next patch there might be free/psudo-free/discounted respec.
But yeah, secondaries just aren't worth it on the NC/Iowa.
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>It's Okinawa and your team goes A
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>>172025948
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>>172025605
>No Russian-Jewishness that WG's known for. Been playing the last year without spending a dime.
No, but you have to deal with Chinese bulllshit, no player base, and no updates.
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>British DDs will get Radar
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>>172026140
5km range?
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>>172025921
>But yeah, secondaries just aren't worth it on the NC/Iowa.
Well, what was going through my head at the time told me it was a good idea.

And plus I somehow mistook the MFCS for MFCAA, then realizing MFCAA wouldn't be worth it either.
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>>172026140
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>>171970558
>>171971272
and they still have 'psuedo-citadels'

>>171986707
Santa containers were a mistake.

>>171999924
I'm playing it with just the range module and it's fine. I'm using MBM2, concealment and rudder shift upgrades.

>>172019562
Don't focus too much on the zones. Once someone from your team is blocking any capping moves focus on whittling down the enemy team. On Trident specifically, keep an eye open for flanking moves. ToTD is shit with Epicentre tbqh.
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>>172026546
You really think WG won't put a DD tree that doesn't have some gimped version of radar?
LoYang was a premium with hydro then suddenly German DDs have hydro.
It's a consumable not yet used by DDs, so I bet they're trying to make it work. It won't be French DDs and it's too late for USN and Soviet.
Soviet BBs will have radar too.
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If Hood is a T7 premium. Nelson will be Tier 7, Queen Elizabeth will be Tier 6, and Vanguard Tier 8. Where will King George fit?
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>>172027017
Probably tier 9 with Lion being the tier ten.
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>>172027173
Nah, put KGV at 8, Vanguard at 9, Lion at 10. You can make it work. People didn't think Hood would work at 7 and they're doing it anyway.
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>>172027017
14 inch guns.
Wow, BB would actually have to work for their cruiser citadels instead of lolpens. I like it.
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>>172027173
>T9
>14" guns
No.
They don't like caliber downgrades as tiers go up much either.
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>>172027258
>>172027225
This IS wargaming were talking about. It'll just have 20 second reload at tier 9 or some other ))))) balanse.
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>>172027258
You're right, I didn't see that. Then they'll probably just have KGV as a T8 Premium.
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>>172021703
>LunaticRed, Benlisquare, Jujuham, Abrudolf_Lincler, Luger, F22xRaptor and Arlios are talking non-stop about NieR in the /wowsg/ discord
>in a discord made for WoWS discussion

Why does NieR discussion always have to ruin non-NieR discussion communities?

At least since the usual suspects are all playing NieR, the WoWS general on /vg/ has been much more peaceful.
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>>172027803
>/wowsg/ discord
That's your problem in the first place
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>>172027895
but the /wowsg/ discord is the most contact I have with girls who talk about botes

/wowsg/ has four girls, and three of them are in the discord (a brit, an aussie and some sea)
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>>172028007
>girls on /wowsg/
I used to be young and naïve too.
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>>172027258
>>172027316
>" Planning began again in 1935, drawing on previous design work. The new class would be built up to the Treaty maximum displacement of 35,000 tons. Alternatives with 16-inch, 15-inch and 14-inch main guns were considered and the 15-inch armament was chosen. [...] In October 1935, the decision was made to use 14-inch guns."
KGV (3x3 15 inch guns) will be T8, Duke of York (with 14-inch guns) as a T8 premium. Kinda like they did it with the Scharnhorst and Gneisenau.
>>172027225
>Vanguard at 9, Lion at 10
>3x3 16 inch guns
>28 knots
>6–15 in belt armor
Lion is inferior to the Montana in every single aspect and even with ))))) can't be competitive with the Yamato and GK. It is just barely good enough for T9. And Vanguard is a Lion-class battleship with ancient surplus turrets from World War I.
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>>171987804
don't listen to this asshole >>171991183

If you're not doing a secondaries build with a battleship, any battleship, you're doing it wrong.
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>>172028289
but they're real girls, not just "girls"

they even talked in the voice chat
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>>172028342
Name some.
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>>172028007

>a brit, an aussie and some sea

a paki and two gooks?
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>>172028403
F22-Raptor
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>>172028007
>girls
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>>172028316
The only BB worth going full secondaries on is Bismarck. Only shitters run full secondaries on everything else.
Especially since the secondaries on the Iowa and NC are such trash anyway.
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>>172027803
It's only Lunatic sperging about Discord, we blocked him a long him ago because he's always whining.
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>>172028292
>Gneisenau
That also shows WG isn't afraid to put guns on a ship that they didn't have just to meet their demands.
Yes, Gneisenau was planned to be upgraded but that never happened seeing how the war ended.
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>>172028403
Iri who plays on EU server (IGN iris_heart) from London

Eve who plays on SEA server (IGN EvelynSometimes) from some shithole in Australia (can't remember the name, probably some abo name like Gabarandah)

Suzy who plays on SEA server (IGN SZYZWY) and I forgot where she's from (but she said it like a month ago). She plays better than 70% of the unicums in /wowsg/, but only plays tier 10 IJN DDs and CAs

That's all I know of
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>>172028717

>Evelyn
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>>172028717
>Eve
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>>172028590
the only people he whines about are neorussia and anumati though, that's only two people

literally of no concern to anyone
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>>172028530
And what would you suggest? AA builds are fucking trash at that tier. Secondaries are the next best option.
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>>172028596
It was planned to be built with 15 inch guns from the beginning, but the development of the turrets lagged behind the ship, so they just beefed up the turrets of the Deutschland class cruisers. And the Bismarck-class actually had the (planned) Scharnhorst-class turrets on them not the other way around.
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>>172028817
>>172028840
There's 2 different eves.
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>Nelson
>not tier 8

You people are delusional.
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>>172028817
>>172028840
Don't bully Mosh!
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My uncle works at Wargaming and this is going to be the britbong BB line.

T3: Dreadnought
T4: Colossus
T5: Iron Duke
T6: Queen Elizabeth
T7: Nelson
T8: King George V. with 15 inch guns and Duke of York with the actual 14 inch guns as a premium.
T9: Lion
T10: L III Wargaming stated that the Yamato's 460mm guns will always remain the largest in the game, but 18 inches are 457mm)))))))
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>>172028959
>>172028912
>>172028817
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>>172028717
EvelynSometimes comes from Gold Coast in Queensland, Australia. Not to be confused with "Evelyn" on discord who is actually Mosh's ERP alt account.
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>>172029049

>Wargaming stated that the Yamato's 460mm guns will always remain the largest in the game, but 18 inches are 457mm)))))))
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>>172028717
we have voice proof that iri and eve are girls

we don't have any proof that suzy is a real girl tho, benlisquare claims that suzy is a girl according to his secret chinese connections but he hasnt proven it

also i think suzy said they are from the philipines
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>>172029352
>pinoys

BURN IT WITH FIRE
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>>172029352
But when has benis ever been wrong though? He predicted a bunch of discount sales 3 days before they happened, and it turned out to be quite accurate.
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>>172029330
That is not substantially smaller and the difference is negligible. Apart from that the L III has 18 inches of belt armor as opposed to Yamato's 16 inches.

so the bong T10 will have basically the same guns as Yamato with substantially thicker armor plus turtleback memes. The eternal Anglo will rule the waves once again.
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>>172029352
>>172029379
If you think Suzy is a girl, I got bad news for ya.

There's a Flip term for that.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=chiksilog
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>>172029596
Most powerful race.
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>>172028856
Secondaries on the NC are shit. He'd be better off going for range or concealment.
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Don't underestimate the power of baguette and bayern even when they're screwed by matchmaking.
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>>172028856
Stealth and survivability. AA range. The NC's secondaries are worthless.

>>172029742
>range
>needing more than 23km
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>>172029578
>and the difference is negligible.
There is a small but noticeable difference.
18 inches is 457mm
To overmatch 32mm of Montana/Yamato/(most likely) Lol III you need 32*14.3=457.6mm gun. Or rounding 458mm.
it is those few millimeters that matter. ))))))
So only future 459mm sikret Stalingun will be able to do it.
P.S. If T8-9 is 381mm gun, than USN CA will have a great time, due to most baBBies not being smart enough to change to HE, since they cannot comprehend the idea that they cannot lolpen a cruiser
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>>172029578
>the difference is negligible.
Not in the world of overmatch it isn't.
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>>172029930
>overmatch 32mm
Why is this 'mechanic' even in the game? Plating isn't armor and it gets overmatched by almost anything in reality. Even destroyer or light cruiser guns should easily get through it at oblique angles, but )))))) I guess. Historically the broadside is the strongest position of a warship, but that would mean that WoWs wouldn't be 'World of Tanks on ice' and we can't have that tovarish)))))
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>>172028717
You're forgetting NA's qtest super unicum, Hotel_a_QT.
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>>172030364

Hotel is a girl?
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>>172030478
A very cute and pretty girl (male)
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>>172030515

>(male)

Even better
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>>172030478
ya why do you think those other guys on NA are always playing with her
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I can't believe this trash game doesn't give you anything if it's your birthday
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>>172030478
>>172030823
Is this why Abrach never lets anyone else join when he's divisioning with Hotel? Is he that posessive, jealous and overbearing because of her?
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>Take a year long break from the game to play another game
>Find out that WoWS gives two free premiums and 80k free xp if you've been AFK for 3 months
>Decide to make an account and play entirely for fun because why the hell not, will drop the character when the 3 months is up anyways, right?
>Doing great because you're used to shooting and hitting ships in a faster environment. So coming back to this slower paced game and shooting slower moving targets with effectively the same shell travel time is like shooting fish in a barrel.

>Playing purely for mindless fun, get world first for a ship most say is arguably shit
http://na.wows-numbers.com/ship/4293867216,Kawachi/

Turtle Hermit Method. It works :^)
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>>172030195
>'World of Tanks on ice'
desu IMO German BB actually feel more like BB and not heavy tank on water.
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>>172030823
Literally no one but Abrach and Chain plays with her (male).
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>>172031027
Because you can broadside with them (at least slightly more than the others anyway) and they have secondaries that you actually remember exist so they feel like big ships covered in guns.
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>>172031124

>Hotel getting split between Abrach and Chain

hot
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>Tell us your server and get a referral code from a fellow /wowsg/ to get extra bonus credits/flags/XP and two free premium ships (one instantly, one after you research a T6 ship).

Is this like an invite code or can I have played the game for a little bit already?
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>>172031027
The game ballistics are scaled down, but they are not scaled down equally, which is why you get odd penetration values. On top of that guns are far more accurate and getting your firing solution is a non issue in the game. Cruisers are built the way they are, because they are hard to hit. Since they are easy to hit in the game with the game's penetration mechanics means that a cruiser gets instagibbed when showing a single pixel of freeboard.
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>>172031331
Invite code, you can have played a couple of matches but once you go past service rank 3 you can't use it anymore. Or if you haven't played in 3 months too, you can use it then as well.
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>>172031027
German BB's are the only BB's in game that can behave like proper BB's. And why they are top of their tier at each tier prior to T10.

>>172031331
playtogether.worldofwarships.com/invite/6gpemx2
apply this to your account if you have an account, or make an account if you don't have one yet.
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>>172031423
>>172031420
Aw bugger, I just missed it.

Ah well, I'll just carry on, what was the T6 Premium?
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>>172031517
You get a T5 premium once you research a T6 ship. It's USS Texas if I remember correctly. Pretty decent bote.
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>>172031517
The T5? The Texas, she's basically the T5 US BB but with more AA. Decently fun bote and a nice one to have if you're a completely free player.
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>>172031517
I would highly recommend restarting actually.
The 80k free XP will help stock grinds out a lot, along with the premiums.
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>>172031696
>>172031659
>>172031623
My friend already got me a Buyfast though. So I can't really complain.
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>>172030830
Happy birthday anon
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>>172031758
It helps to have a premium for every nation, because of retraining captains and such. If you plan to get a german premium, get the Scharnhorst. It's very good and probably the most universal ship in the game. For the Japanese you should go for the Atagoy and if you're in the market for a ))))) premium get the Kutuzov.
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>>172031970
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>>172031970
Cheers, I'll wait for a sale or something before spending money on this game though.

Belfast is great though, I'm tempted to get the Warspite but I'll wait for the RN BB line.
Shlonghorst it is then.
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>>172032123
>I'm tempted to get the Warspite
Wait for Hood, if you want RN BB
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>>172013647
Well British torps were weak at that point of the war. I wonder how Biscuit would have faired against late war British torps with larger warheads and torpex.
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>>172032419
Funny, but that does bring up a question, how will battle-cruisers be handled? As CLs in game?
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>>172032546
Like BBs with shit for armor.
We already have some.
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>>172032607
Like Iowa?
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>>172032607
>>172032546
Does that mean the Scharnhorst, Gneisnau and the others will get their ship icon changed to Battlecruiser as well?
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>>172032713
They're not adding a new class.
They're just BBs as far as the game cares.
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>>172032713
Heavy cruisers don't have separate icon. I doubt they will do one for BC
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>>172031850
Thanks dear :c
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>>172030830
Happy birthday chum
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>>172032713
There were 2 or possibly 3 schools of building battlecruisers. Compared to battleships the british school (beginning with HMS Invincible) sacrificed protection in favor of speed, while not compromising firepower, the german school (starting with SMS Von der Tann) sacrificed armament in favor of speed while not compromising (much) protection. In the 1930s defining a battlecruiser or even battleship has become difficult, since that was the era of the fast battleship and at that point technology has progressed enough for a battleship to do the job of a battlecruiser and in some cases adapt traits of battlecruisers. A new type of (arguably) battlecruisers were started with the Dunkerque and Scharnhorst, eventually leading to designs like the Alaska, B-65 and Stalingrad.

Though the Scharnhorst was planned to have 15 inch guns from the get go, the turrets weren't ready for service, but were later recycled for the Bismarck. With the 15 inch guns the Scharnhorst-class would have been much more like a classic german battlecruiser.
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>>172032438
The critical damage to the rudder was outside of teh TDS anyway.

The German TDS was actually pretty OK, watertight compartmentalization was good and the DC was apparently good enouhg to never lose a ship to progressive flooding, which leads me to believe that better explosives, even with slightly bigger warheads, would not have changed much.
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>>172033342
>Stalingrad
>It's Moskva with bigger guns
Soviet BB line when?
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>>172030830
Least they aren't like microsoft.
>Gave 25 cents worth of microsoft points per year
>Saved up over the years, could almost afford an avatar item
>Shortly before that final birthday present that would give me enough
>We've changed our policy and microsoft points are going away.
They gave, and took away, a few years worth of birthday presents . ;_;
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>>172034830
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>>172029892
>BB
>Stealth
nigga you must be joking
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>>172035242
Nice bait
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>>172035242
>not wanting sub 12km detection range on BB
good joke
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>>172035242
Iowa shooting 12km and then stealth away is rather annoying
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>>172033342
>A new type of (arguably) battlecruisers were started with the Dunkerque and Scharnhorst, eventually leading to designs like the Alaska, B-65 and Stalingrad.
You can't really lump those together.

Dunkerque was a compromise under treaty restrictions specifically built to counter the Panzerschiffe, Scharnhorst was a compromise by using a gun thet was available 'off the shelf' (and that would not put any kind of pressure on the treaty nations)
These two were fast, but ultimately had a BB setup of armor.

Alaska on the other hand was essentially a crusier, with cruiser-like protection but 12" guns strapped on. Fast, but not really able to take hits.
B-65 was a differen from Alaskat: A BB setup of protection, the only real 'super-cruiser'

Stalingrad was a pipedream, though it had OK protection in theory. I seriously doubt that the Soviet Union could've built the machinery that was projected for her.
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>>172035526
>treaty restrictions
If you follow the general line of size increase in battleships before the Washington Naval treaty you can see that if the treaty had never been ratified Hotel would have probably been a 'normal' battleship for her time.
RIP Botes that never were
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>>172035242
Guess where you are.
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What a beautiful ship.
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>>172036446
What is this ship?
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>>172035804
Without the treaties, cruisers would have advanced to be a lot more like the Deutschland panzerschiffe and teh B-65 design, too.

And You can bet your ass that the IJN would've built a lot more and better carriers, too.
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>>172036561
Lets ask the real question, what is a ship?
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>>172036610
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>>172036446
>Rocket launchers
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>>171958010
citation needed
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>>172036937
RAWKET LAWNCHAIR
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>>172036937
>The weapon was not very effective as it was slow to load and aircraft could avoid the wires. It was replaced later in the war by the 2 pounder or Bofors 40 mm gun.
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>>172036610
>What is a ship
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why the fuck do I suck in Taiho but do well in Shokaku?
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>>172036937
>WG keeping it's proud tradition of just making premiums with bad AA as their only drawback.
Good thing no one plays CVs.
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>>172037276
Ah, that's probably why I never heard of it.

Still, it's interesting to see.
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>>172035804
Fugging treaty mang, if it wasnt for that faggotery we would have seen 150kt+ botes.

Hotel would have looked like a torpedo boat next to those things.

REEEEE

Why cant we have nice things?
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>>172037689
>Boat going as fast as plane
kek no
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>>172038291
kt = kilo tons

fucking burgers i swer to god.
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>>172036446
>>172036937
So will these be a kind of barrage for RN BBs?
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USN CL split when?
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>>172037365
Of course it had to be for fucking kancolle. Shipgirls are soldiers, not your waifus.
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>>172038291
>Americans
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>>172038368
kt also means knot and is commonly used, and youre in a fucking bote game thread.
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>>172038721
>New Thread
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>>172038948
I /literally/ have no idea how that got there.

I made a thread on another board but not here. Thanks X.
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>>172038905
>we would have seen 150kt+ botes.
>Hotel would have looked like a torpedo boat next to those things

Is it more likely that im refering to a) the weight or b) the speed of a ship?

>Hurr durr really fast ship is probably alot bigger than the yammy

Really?

Okay, fatass. Do you have any sort of reading comprehension? I guess not, since the longest piece of writting youve ever read was probably the McDonalds Menu.
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>>172039121
>being this ass blasted you can't get your notations straight in an internet Chinese Junk simulator
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Are plon butts as soft as bote butt?
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>>172039408
They're way softer than bote butts
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>>172039408
Hell no theyre boney af
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>>172038905
Whoever uses kt in such a way should stop at once, as the symbol already has a meaning as a compound of an SI prefix and a non-SI unit accepted for use with the SI and using it for any other meaning is liable to cause unnecessary confusion. The SI Brochure specifies a symbol for the knot which is not in conflict with other aspects of the SI.

>>172039121
>Is it more likely that im refering to a) the weight or b) the speed of a ship?
Considering the fact that you used the symbol for a multiple of a unit of weight which is a non-SI unit accepted for use with the SI, the only reasonable meaning which can be drawn is that you intended to refer to the weight of the ship.
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>>172039448
>>172039501

?????
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>>172039585
>MUH SI

kt is used for Knot. Or kts for Knots like what we fucking have IN THIS GAME FOR WHICH WE ARE IN A THREAD FOR.
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the fuck did we do to deserve this
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>>172039894
Shut up you stupid fucking burger, you know how many countries in the world dont use SI units?

2, some backwater shithole full of retards and inbred. And Myanmar.

Also knots is a stupid as fuck unit anyway, they should just use km/h like everyone else.
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>>172040158
autiSIm
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>>172040291
NOT AN ARGUMENT
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>>172039904
This girl makes my lower half feel tingly.
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summoning

hotel
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>>172039894
>kt is used for Knot
>Treating unit names as proper nouns

>Or kts for Knots
>Pluralising unit symbols
Please re-read the SI Brochure.

>>172040158
The is knot is defined as being equal to 1852/3600 m/s. A nautical mile is defined as being equal to 1852 m. This value was chosen as it approximates a minute of arc of a great circle of the Earth. This makes the nautical mile, and hence the knot, convenient for use in navigation, and for this reason the two are recognised by the SI Brochure as non-SI units accepted for use with the SI.
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>>172028292
>3x3 15 in guns like scharn to Gneisenau
That actually makes a lot of sense

>lion will never make it at t10
I disagree. When you think of T10 BB, they're all lumbering beasts with >20s rudder shift times and large turning circles
What if the lion had a tight turning circle and a cruiser like shift time? She would be the master of torpedo beats at T10

I dont think people appreciate the soft stats like that when it comes to BBs and only focus on belt armor and gun caliber
And its worth noting that RN BBs will probably have really tight spreads like the Warspite
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>>172040306

Something is wrong with this shiggy
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>>172040880
Please leave your fucking autism at the door and learn to naval terminology, faggot.
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>>172028932
Muh biggu 7

>>172029049
>LIII
No.
That floating turd should never grace any medium that the toilet paper it was designed on
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>radar is a consumable so that smoke memery is a viable tactic
who the fuck thought this is a good idea?
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>>172041130
You just answered your own question.
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>>172040943
>had a tight turning circle and a cruiser like shift time?
So it would be a better Hindenburg?
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>>172031016
>2 free premiums for a 3 month hiatus
Which premiums may i ask?
I got dangerously close to 3 months over the holidays, but i guess i screwed that up
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>>172041258
>Which premiums may i ask?
T2 Diana
And T5 FREEDOM Texas
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>>172041130
People who don't exclusively play battleships.
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>>172041258
You get a Texas, a Diana, and 80k free XP if you apply a code to your account that's been gone 3 months.
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sorry for leaving div so fast, fellow HOTEL
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>>172041210
Pretty much. But without torps and double the gun caliber
But when it comes to BCs, i think people are just going to have to learn how to use their WASD keys anyway like a cruiser
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>Be Konigsberg
>Get a broadsiding Bogue and Langley all to myself
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>>172041351
>play radarless cruiser
>dominate DD scrub
>he just turns on his sauna and laughs in my face
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>>172041064
>Implying internationally agreed-upon units could accurately be described as belonging to such a narrow category as naval matters
The two units are used in many fields.
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>>172041841
source?
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>wowsblitz.com
https://thedailybounce.net/2017/03/25/world-of-warships-blitz-mobile-game/
Hmmmm
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>>172042082
Kuroinu Kedakaki Seijo wa Hakudaku ni Somaru

everyone should watch at least the first episode
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>>172042527
>All they did was register some domain names

It never ceases to amaze me how people keep jumping on things like this and patents as signs of things to come.
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>>172042690
It gets pretty boring in later episodes
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>>172044081
It has its moments, but misses so many opportunities.
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>>172042872
Sikret screenshots :^)
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>>172044186
>Dollars

hmmmmmmmm
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>>172044186
>Brooklyn class
>Battlestation graphic
Buy
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>>172044247
>>172044341
Please don't shoot me. I posted what I saw in comments
at least they look IJNish to me
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>>172044520
>that deckpark
>that short takeoff run
y
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Post Butts
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>>172028342
Boy Mosh has you fooled
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>>172028959
Team kill Mosh
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>>172046495
He must be pretty good speak as two completely different people at the same time.
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>>172046672
45k doubloons plus travel fees

You can find out just how good he really is :^)
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gas the kikes
race war now
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gas white people
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bayonet chinks
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Praise the Hotel!
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>>172048101
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>>172048256
Where is the Yamato?
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>>172048378
Exactly.
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>>172048378
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>>172048378
You probably inhaled some of its atom in your life time
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>sushifags doing nothing but fighting amongst each other
>hotelfags are basically in love with each other
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>>172040158
>Muh SI
Most SI units are just as fucking arbitrary and baseless as imperial units, and have only been recently defined using physical constants after the fact.

A Nautical Mile was based on the distance to traverse one arcminute of latitude.
A kilometer was defined as one-ten thousandth of the distance from the equator to the North Pole as measured specifically along a latitudinal line passing through Dunkirk.

We could define imperial units in terms of physical constants and they would be just as 'standard' as SI units.
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>>172046495
I'm ok with that
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>>172049412
b-but muh base 10
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>>172048834
That's the power of the lovely qt hotel.
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>>172048834
Fact: Hotelfags are known to be 300% nicer than any other botefufag brand.
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>>172050276
This is true, Hotelfags are lovely in general.
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Love Hotel!
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>>172051552
Think of all the Yamato sailors who jerked off in the bunks inside her!
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>>172052007
Why jerk off, if you can go to her secret place
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>>172049412
The problem with imperial units is that the equivalences among themselves are arbitrary and non-intuitive
>Imperial:
>There are 12 inches in a feet. 3 feet in 1 yard. 1760 yards in a mile.
>Another set of arbritrary equivalences for weight, liquids
>No way of measuring electrical currents, radiation, etc.
>SI:
>There are 100 milimeter in a centimetre, 100 centimetre in a meter. 1 kilometre (kilo=thousand times) is 1000 times a metre.
>Same base-10 prefix applies for every other measurement unit.
SI it's just easier to learn and manage. You don't have to jump through several hoops to convert stuff, you just divide/multiply the base unit by the necessary prefix.
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>>172051689
Talk to them and drop spaghetti
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>>172051689
Same as others; have a 10/10 body/face/attitude/job
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>>172052007
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>>172051689
Have $150 000 in bank account. Should be enough
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>>172044740
Graf Zepp would have used catapults to launch planes anyway.
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>>172044520
What game?
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>>172052896
Let's take turns raping Graf Zeppelin.
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>>172052982
Graf ZeppZepp is for worshipping, not lewding

t. Luger
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>>172053279
I want to kill Graf Zeppelin and then serve her to Luger.
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>>172052896
People say those are screenshots of CBT of WoWS on mobile.
Only $9.99 to play Graf for 10 battles))))
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>>172049412
>umpteen conversion factors and redundant units for the same quantity
vs
>powers of 10
just as arbitrary lolzors

>We could define imperial units in terms of physical constants and they would be just as 'standard' as SI units.
Not so. The SI is the standard because it is internationally accepted as such. Imperial units enjoy no such recognition and regardless, they are already defined in terms of physical constants by proxy, as in most cases they are penultimately defined in terms of SI units.
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I want to "liberate" Graf Zeppelin :-)
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>>172052129
>>172053653
The powers of ten shit doesn't come from the physical basis of the units, it just comes from convenient use of prefixes. There's absolutely nothing preventing us from using "milli-miles" or "kilo-pounds" aside from convention.

And no, SI units are not non-arbitrary in terms of physical constant 'by proxy'. Measuring the speed of light in units of flurbs per blonch and then defining a flurb after-the-fact as "the distance light travels in one blonch" is circular reasoning and it doesn't make flurbs and blonchs any less fucking arbitrary.
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>>171964531
How can that be? Didn't the magazine exploding outright tear the ship in half?
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>>172054347
Just keep using furlongs or whatever, it still makes zero sense in a time where we do not use fingers and knuckles for counting ;^)
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>>172055123
>that image
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How bad are the German DDs?

Does Konigsberg still rape everything?
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>>172055752
garbage
no
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>>172053480
Jesus you're deranged.
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>>172055752
They are underwhelming; Konigsberg rapes cruisers, DDs and broadside baBBies when top tier.
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>>172056287
>when top tier.
Explanation: almost never
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>>172056497
38% of the times comerade)))
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>>172055540
According to the burgeclaps, that is 'easy to remember' and 'makes sense'
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>>172054347
If you wanted to use prefixes on imperial, you would have to just drop all the extra units, otherwise it still doesn't make sense.

No more inch, yard or mile. Just milifeet, centifeet, feet, kilofeet.
But at that point one wonders why even bother trying to save an obsolete sytem and not just switch to SI.
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>>172055752
>How bad are the German DDs?
t2 - t4 are fun as fuck
t5 is shit
t6 and t8 get 15 cm meme guns that rape careless bonger and balans cruisers
t7 and t9 are OK and can do hydro memes
t10 will be OK after teh buff it gets.

t9 and t10 can do a good torp build that allows them to launch one bank of torps every 36 seconds, which is pretty strong.
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>>172056761
"""""natural"""""", """"""human""""" units.

For all the burger smugness about having freed themselves from british opression, I'm befuddled by their stubborness to cling to an outdated measurement system named after their opressors.
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>>172056761
Except for the part where 90% of those units aren't used at all, or only in one extremely niche context.

Inch, foot, yard, mile, done.
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>>172027017

Leaked tree had it go:

T3: Dreadnought
T4: Orion
T5: Iron Duke
T6: QE
T7: Nelson
T8: KGV w/ 15" guns
T9: Vanguard
T10: N3 BB (probably sekrit)))) upgrades)

Another leak on SEA had two T7 prems, Hood, which is now confirmed, and a 14" gunned KGV.
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>>172057059
metre
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>>172057059
You forgot Football field.
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>"The rest of the world uses SI, so it's obviously shit."
>"The rest of the (civilized) world has universal healthcare, so it's obviously shit."
>"The rest of the (civilized) world restricts guns on the general population and has a lower crime rate than us, so it's obviously shit"

American exceptionalism at it's best.
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>>172055776
Did they nerf it?
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>>172057645

Not him but, RN CL's and the change in the dynamic of T5-6 has made the Konigs kinda shit. Expect to see Scharns chasing you across the map 90% of the time and Belfast's fucking up kiting.
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>>172057420
>Universal Healthcare
>Good
Pick one.
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>>172057852

I have free Healthcare in the US (VA+Tricare for life) and it's awesome. Go fuck yourself moron, the US is ghettoized by not letting everyone have free healthcare.
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>>172057013
Stockholm Syndrome, Battered Wife Syndrome etc.
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>>172056971
>one bank of torps every 36 seconds, which is pretty strong.
desu if you are into F3 memes, shima also can do that and shit out 5 torps instead of 4 on Z-52. You don't have any range though, so you should use RPF to be sure that ship you are targeting is the one closest to you.
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>>172054978
Hood was blown in two but supposedly the explosion wasn't a violent one.
Cordite burns very quickly and very cleanly. Accounts say it was a jet of flame (Possibly with a blue tinge) and not a real explosion. What happened to the USS Arizona was definitely an explosion.

Below decks on Hood it would have been over in an instant, just a fireball shooting down the length of the ship and engulfing anything in in its path. Pressures from this blowing out bulkheads and armor seams, which immediately opened a large portion of the ship to the sea.
A lot of the force was also vented out through the flame jet itself and through one of the rear turret being hurled into the air.

Because of this, if you're ahead and above the fire you would not have felt much. Maybe a small shutter and then all of a sudden the ship turning over and the bow is starting to lift out of the water.
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>>172057325
Is that the most murican measurement unit?
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>>172058287

More like genuine laziness. US Engineer here and this shit is bonkers. The use of imperial is limited to morons/non-technicals. No one who actually needs to use units uses feet/pounds/gallons. I work with tool manufactures a lot and asked one of their reps once why they still make imperial stuff, wouldn't it be cheaper to just have a single line, metric, rather than make both. He said it's because consumer class goods still need to be in imperial or people throw a shit fit and there are just enough old engineers that still use imperial to make it worthwhile. No one wants to go first, cause it means losing a large number of customers. But it will happen eventually, as they aren't actually teaching Imperial units in school and most new engineers can't convert a foot pound to a bar in their heads, which is a good thing.
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>>172058790
Holy shit, you speak English!
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>>172058790
Fuck outta my way, Nerd.
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>>172057420
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
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>>172058069
>I have a healthcare plan which is totally subsidized by the other 90+% of Americans who are neither veterans nor active service military, and yet is still notoriously inefficient at providing timely care.
>This is the model we should adopt for the entire country
You're a moron.
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>>172058790
Fuck off anusmati
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>>172059139

The VA catches a bad rap. I can't speak for other areas, but mine is pretty good. Good doctors, timely care, they actually make use of computer systems and text alerts for upcoming appointments. I really don't have any complaints about *my* VA hospital. I am fully aware not all are like this but my experience has been quite good.

Likewise I have Tricare for life (100% service connected), which means I can go to ANY doctor in the country, also for free (or with essentially 0 copay).

And we already have socialized medicine in this country. WTF do you think Medicade and medicare are? Just remove the "over 65" statue from medicare and you fix the system.
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>>172058452
The expedition that found the wreck found that most of the area around the fore magazines was also destroyed, which they interpreted as proof that the fore magazines also exploded during sinking.

The article on navyweaps has some pretty well resaearched parts about how the magazines went up.
The working theory is that the pressure went into the engine rooms, upwards through the vents (this cuased the 'jet of lfame', and then further forward into the boiler rooms.

At that time X turret was blown into the sky, and then either keel let go or the still rotating shafts ripped the hull open, which caused the ship to practically drop under the surface.
>>
>0.6.3 effectively removes gun-fire stealth debuff from BBs
Why is BB population so big???)))))))))))))))
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>>172060958
>cruisers get fucked again
why noone play cruiser u guize????????
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>>172061138
But they get 0.05 increase in Sigma. )))))
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>>172060905
The end conclusion, without examining all the tiny details, is: "HMS Hood stopped being a ship very quickly."
One moment she was mostly fine (Aside from the one deck fire from the 4in gun ammo lockers), and then the next she no more. A complete failure of the ship as a system. Immediate loss of propulsion, navigation, and buoyancy. So quickly that the few who survived had little clue what happened.

Truly terrifying.
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>>172061249
Yeah, I can totally see how everyone will now play nothing but IJN or KM t9 and t10 cruisers.
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>>172058790

lewd
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>>172061138
Perhaps Noone's favourite ship is a cruiser?
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>>172061393
>Forgetting Glorius Moskva
To GULAG with you
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>>172061358
The sad part is that the exact same thing happened in 1916.
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>>172061393
Also lets not forget that NepNep and Minotaur have smoke, so they don't care for most part.
And Des Moines... Did anything really changed for Des Moines?
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>>172059565
>Just remove the "over 65" statue from medicare and you fix the system.
Medicare, medicaid, the VA, etc all only manage to function because they provide support to a MINORITY of the population while being subsidized by the MAJORITY of the population.

You can't expand the programs to cover everyone without
a) substantially dropping the amount of coverage and the quality of care and
b) taxing the ever-loving-shit out of everyone

I have a hard time believing an active duty or former serviceman could be this naive. Fifty bucks says your some little middle school faggot on his daddy's VA plan.
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>>172057135
>N3
>choosing a toilet paper shit rather than the ordered and keel laid Lions
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>>172061523
Moskva can at least take a few shells, has good guns, AA and radar.

Zao has jack shit without invisfire, and Hindenburg is little better.

DM can at least shit more shells at things than you can imagine and has radar, Minotaur has dank 420 memes.
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>>172061493
>tfw favorite ship is the Hipper
(and by extension, the Eugen. even though i dont own one)
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>>172061553
There was a genuine fear after Hood sank that British ships still had the flaws they had during Jutland.
I can see why those fears existed, but there's nothing that can be done to full address it. If a ship's magazine gets hit, it's going to end very, very, badly for those aboard.
You can't do like on tanks and develop wet storage racks or blow out panels. You can only upgrade armor around those critical parts and hope you don't take a penetrating it.
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>>172061824
>and Hindenburg is little better.
Hindenburg has second largest DPM of all heavy cruisers. So it can also shit out a ton of shells.
>Zao
It still has best 203mm AP and ballistic in general. It still can sit back at 18km and spam HE, only you need to actively look for possible damage in return
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>tfw according to warships today, Prinz is my Key vehicle

Prinz/Hipper are fun ships. Loved the Hipper back then and now enjoy Prinz because she's literally premium Hipper. People that bitch about the Hipper don't know how to play her
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>>172061803

So america is too stupid/too poor/too incompetent to do what Great Britain does?
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>>172061812

It's not my idea, its WGing's. That's the list that leaked a few months ago. I assume long term they will do the same thing with the RN as the USN and make a second BB line.
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Is Des Moines forever shit?
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>>172063617
No, we just enjoy not having to put up with a 40% income tax rate so that everyone can have access to the same mediocre healthcare.
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>>172063302
I wanted Prinz when she first came on sale but couldn't justify the price due to money problems, but I really wanted her because I wanted to switch between Hindenburg and Prinz without retraining the same captain over and over.

But then the christmas event came and everything ended happily ever after. My only regret while playing her is that I always get the fucking short end of the stick from either matchmaking or the game itself. I can't have one decent game worth a damn, but that's another story.
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>>172064319
I wonder if they will ever buff Prinz and give her Radar to set her apart from Hipper.
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>>172064012
No it is good boat. You are just bad.
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Tfw went to solo cap C and won a fight vs full Roon, Hipper and Fiji.
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>>172065473
Let me guess you sit in smoke and made them cry?
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>>172065582
>solo
nah, you cant see shit if you're sitting in smoke when there are no allies around
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>>172065350
Giving Prinz radar would break the German CA line, especially if you combine it with the already awesome German Radar. Hell, access to repair party would be nice.

Fuck it, WG, pls do both
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>>172059446

He who posts Kaga gains the title of anusmati?
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>>172064319
>I always get the fucking short end of the stick from either matchmaking or the game itself. I can't have one decent game worth a damn

This is what is wrong with Hipster/Prinz and t8 CAs in general.
You get dragged into t10 games and then cucked by 5BBs. Maps are open not to inconvenience BBs shooting from spawn and AP does nothing if whatever you are shooting isnt retarded enough to ignore WASD. All you are left to work with is sonar and shitty HE.
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>>172065887
It would make sense, she had a special kind of Radar installed on her so it would be fine if she had to trade in HAS. On the topic of Repair Party, I'd say all T8 CAs should have it.
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>>172027017
Like others said, KGV will be Tier VIII with the 15" gun proposal. Vanguard will be either the Tier VIII of the second BB line, or a premium.

I hope and think that Lion's design in 1939 will be the Tier IX. For Tier X they can take their pick from the plethora of Lion designs cooked up post-war or to sekrit document a Lion-based design themselves. One version that's particularly interesting is one that has 16" guns with 20 second reload, which would go down to 18 seconds with the RoF module, and then even farther down with Adrenaline Rush.
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F
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>>172065901
Yeah, I'm pretty much delegating to escorting 1-2 BBs and shooting HE, while hoping I don't get focus fired. It always happens anyway.


>>172066015
I think WG is only going to limit Repair Parties for T8 CAs to only Atago in order to get more people to buy her. Having played New Orleans, Chapy, Hipper, and Mogami, If you're not cloaked in stealth or pointing bow and WASD hacking, you're essentially a damage pinata. With invisifiring going away, I'll be surprised if Mogami and Chapy continue to be efficient, because holy shit they are very fragile.
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So Akagi and Yorktowns will be premium tier 8s?
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>>172068021
>Yorktowns
I still hope USN gets second line.
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>tfw you get deleted by an Essex's DBs in a Kiev
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>>172068132
No enjoy your premiums.
Yorktowns should have been the tier VIII in the first place though.
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>>172066574
Myoko and Mogami both feel lacking. Very fragile, guns that take a long time to traverse and of which you're restricted to the forward two if you don't want to be citadeled.

They could be good ships, but with the paper thin side armor there's really no reason to progress past the Furutaka or Aoba. Even at tiers V and VI you've already unlocked the 203mm guns and torpedoes. The tiers above it are just bait to make you think you can actually use the rear guns and more torps.
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>>172068329
3 minutes into game
One squad, 4hits
Only 10k, not deleted(((((((((((((((
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>>172068132
I wish. The US has so many different carriers and they stuck a fucking Bogue and Independence Escort carrier in the tech tree. Where you have to chose between having fighters or attack planes.
Meanwhile the Nips get real carriers and have by default better squadron composition.
There is no balance with carriers, Japan is flat out better and if you're in an American CV between tier V-VII, against a Japanese CV, you are at their mercy.
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>>172068848
There's enough USN carriers to be 2-3 lines of Escort, Fleet, and Light carriers.
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>>172068848
Independence class wasn't an escort carrier. And Ryuujou was hardly considered a real carrier by its own navy.
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>>172070142
That still doesn't address the disparity in what loadouts are available. If I have to pick between anti-ship or anti-air, then so should the IJN carriers to keep things balanced.
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>>172071248
>disparity in loadouts
))))))))))))))))))
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How are they going to implement Hood rocket artillery effects?
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>>172057135
>T4 and T5 are the same ship
ebin
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>>172072383
My guess is not at all, from what I read it was pretty much useless IRL. An interesting idea (and apparently a similar idea (Z Batteries) worked on land, but the 'net' was too obvious to the enemy.
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>>172072562
))))))))
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>>172029892
Stealth build on the NC is worthless.

You can't go anywhere near the action without getting spotted by a stray plane or DD and getting nuked to hell.
You can't skirt the edges because you're guns have shit accuracy at range and you're slow as fuck.
And on the off-chance you do get the drop on someone you get maybe one shot before you get ripped to shreds.
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>>172073990
You want to know how I know you're a shitter?
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>>172073990
>you're guns have shit accuracy
And that's how I know you are just trolling
What's next? Stealth Bayern is a bad idea?
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>>172074147
You want to know how I know you're a shitter?
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>>172074404
You have worse WRs than I do in a completely different class.
There's a good reason you clearly can't play the NC.
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>>172074404
So you statpaded in a CV.
How exactly this proves what you said about NC?
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>>172057013
It is called laziness.
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>>172057420
Um nice argument sweetie, except America IS better than the rest of the world.
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>>172069028
For major fleet units only Yorktown class is left unless you are counting some of the paper designs like armored Essex class.
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>>172075000
And what has the Moon done for America?
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>>172075224
Moon gave to America some rocks
>>
World of Warships blitz incoming!
https://thedailybounce.net/2017/03/25/world-of-warships-blitz-mobile-game/
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>>172060958
Because German BB's and wehraboos
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>>172075224
It's not about owning the moon, which we do, it's about sending a message.
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>>172075000
And CERN has discovered bunch of new particles.
This clearly means that CERN rules the World
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>>172075453
Slowpoke.jpg >>172042527
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>>172075647
>CERN
literally who?
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>>172029892
Her secondaries are actually bretty decent, and are worth it against cheeky DD's and brawling with other BB's

I found secondaries on NC more useful than spending for the very situational AA
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FUCK THIS GAME FUCK DESTROYERS FUCK NIGGERS FUCK WG FUCK THIS WHOLE FUCKING BULLSHIT
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>>172079175
>This is the architect of 0.6.3
RIP WoWs
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>>172076275
I still prefer the AA, partially for covering allies since I'm usually playing close to other people, though none of the choices for the 2nd mod slot are really amazing. It does seem pretty much just down to personal preference so picking up the odd secondary range isn't the worst idea I guess.
It's just a full secondary build that I'd say would be a terrible idea.
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>>172072383
>FUCK DESTROYERS
As a DD player, I wish I could too.
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>>172079259
FUCK YOU YOU STUPID NIGGER I HOPE YOU GET HIT BY A BUS
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>>172079454
What an ugly fucking AIDs and autism-ridden bitch. Are you sure you posted the right image?
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>>172079175
rope yourself disgusting baBBy
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>>172079454
It looks like someone drew eyes and a mouth on their thumb and called it a "girl"
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>>172079454
>sample
>not black panties

0/10 post.
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>>172079175
>>172079495

>BB players in a nutshell
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>>172079612
I DONT PLAY BBS YOU NIGGER IM A CRUISER
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>>172079759
>plays cruisers
>complains about DDs

EMBARASSING!
GIT GUD!
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>>172079942
FUUUUUCK YOU YOU INDECNT FUCKING DD PLAYER

FUCK THIS STEALTH FIRING SHIT

FUCK THIS PERMA FIRES

FUCK EVERYTHING
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>>172079454
Faggot
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>>172080048
Please call your handler before you hurt yourself.
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>>172080316
I HOPE YOU DIE
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>>172080107
I only know from the best.
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>>172080363
I will.
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>>172081297
GOOD

FUCKING MONGREL KIKE
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>>172081858
LMAOing @ your pathetic life
>>
>>172082583
I HOPE SOME JEW COMES DOWN AND RAPES YOU AND TAKES ALL YOUR MONEY
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>>172080363
He's going to die
You're going to die
We'll all die eventually.
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>>172080048
Show me where the DD touched your cruiser, you goddamn retarded chink.
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>>172080048
so much anger. Buy a Bismarck and relaxxxxxx
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>>172084013
FUUUUUUUUUUCK THE NAZIS YOU RACIST FUCK
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>>172080107
What's the source of this girl (boy (girl))?
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link to discord pls
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>>172089534
you dont wanna join the discord m8
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>>172089534
https://discord.gg/UYajY8w
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so close
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>5 Tashkent torps into a North Carolina while his DCP is down
>0 flooding

I'm butthurt
>>
mane why the fuck are myokos torps on the back you can't ever fire them without broadsiding
>>
>>172091673
no one cares teutonic redditor
>>
>>172068848
There's nothing wrong with the tiering of the USN CVs (aside from Bogue being a POS that should be replaced by Casablanca or Sangamon), it's just the loadouts that are bullshit.

And the core "national flavors" for CVs, that USN gets 6-plane squadrons while IJN gets larger numbers of 4-plane squadrons, is backwards.
>>
>>172029330
Can someone explain the )))))))))) meme
>>
>>172091089
>not wanting to have a 45k doubloons time with Mosh
>>
>>172092196

It's a Russian emoticon.
>>
>>172060958
>BB overpopulation is a recognized problem
>WG continues to buff BBs and nerf everything else
>WG is confused why BB overpopulation continues
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>>172092069
Please no bully
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>>172091743
National peculiarity))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>172092065
Because all cruisers suck

Are you new to the game? There's a tutorial you know
>>
>>172092196
It basically is a Russian emoticon for denoting sarcasm

Or pretending to be wargaming or a Russian person
>>
Is there a way to check how many times you've gotten rank 1, cause I was sure I got it 3 times, but the seasons over and I still don't have Flint.
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>>172093621
But aoba has them on the side and you can fire them without doing a full 180
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Does anyone actually use this shit
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>>172094437
>i have never player competitive
>>
Where do you guys get ship models from
>>
>>172094437
Zao can, and has shells fast enough to actually hit stuff in the extra range the spotter gives.
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>>172095713
Models? Like plastic?
>>
Has anyone made a Hotel character for MUGEN?

I want to play as Yamato in a fighting game
>>
>>172099885
Why? The real thing didn't fight.
The one battle where she could have shown her worth and she turned tail and ran away. The next time she came out, she ran full speed, head first, into a brick wall and killed herself.
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>>172101405
>One of, if not the largest collection of warships Japan throws at the US is defeated by 7 small destroyers, destroyer escorts and escort carriers which mainly launched propaganda fliers.
Really fires those neurons.
>>
>>172102238
In that same battle, Japan lost a Heavy Cruiser to an Escort Carrier armed with ONE 5in gun.

Point at them and laugh.
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>>172102534
>Manages to sneak into one of the most defended US bases and "destroy" many of the ships
>Cant win against inferior numbers and inferior ships
Did they win Tsushima or did they pay the Russians to scuttle their ships?
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>>172102796
Well, Russia lost a good part of their fleet before even getting to Tsushima. Togo had to sail a vastly smaller distance so his ships didn't have as much chance to fall apart.
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>>172103170
I can't decide whats funnier, The Russians headed to Tsushima or the Japanese during the Pacific War.
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>>172103701
Shit, I haven't actually looked at that picture yet, why is there a second ship?
>>
>>172028717
>only plays tier 10 IJN DDs and CAs

I don't even have a T10 CA
>>
>>172103701
The entire Japanese war effort was, for the most part, actually professionally carried out. That doesn't mean you made wise tactical decisions or anything, but you at least failed professionally.

Russia's voyage to Tsushima and then the ensuing battle are just something else.
>>
>>172103701
What exactly is going on in this image

Why are there two ship overlapping eachother?
>>
>>172104219
The William D. Porter is also a pretty good source for naval hilarity.
>>
>>172103701
The Japanese in the Pacific War were competent for the most part. Only later on did they do some very stupid things.
It boiled down to they were not prepared for the kind of war the US would bring and their refusal to adapt early on left them with little towards the end of the war.
>>
>>172104539
They should in in the Porter a premium and give it a permanent pink nametag
>>
Are VMF CLs worth trying if I already have the Kebab?
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>>172104539
Naval hilarity can be found in any navy if you look close enough

> In August 1943, a captured RAF airman misled the Germans by telling them that the aircraft were homing in on the signals radiated by the Metox,[12][13] and consequently U-boat commanders were instructed to turn them off.
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>>172094437
Use your grey matter. It's good for sniping cv's, enemies beached far away, idiots that rammed eachother by mistake etc.
>>
>>172106920
>goes out of the smoke
>203mm HE shell does whooping 820 dmg)))
>sails right past you while your guns are still reloading
>drops torps from 50m away
>psshhh, notin personnel
>devastating strike
>>
>>172093729
Send a ticket, otherwise I wouldnt know.
>>
>>172089534
>link to discord pls
Mystifies me why you would want to go to that (verbal) diarrhea lake.
>>
>>172079552
>autism-ridden bitch
You'd still fuck a girl with autism because your options are very lmiited, if any. But would she fuck anyone stupid enough not to know that autism is less severe for women ?
>>
What do youdo in this game?
>>
>>172074404
>Cherrypicked sample, assuming it's even from him

lel
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just ran into tioga the 060 in a pub match, he seemed nice, no complaints here. Would like to div with him if he invited me
>>
>>172107557
Eat shit and die
>>
>>172071248
With the gutting of t4 and t5 cv's queues for cv players will become long anyway.
>>
>>172106920
>secondaries missing from point-blank range
In-game secondaries are well-modeled))))))))
>>
>Remove stealth fire
>Keep it during typhoons
What did they mean by this?
>>
>>172041841
>broadsiding cv
Unless you are the worst shitter you can hit bow on cv anyway.
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What's the difference between NA Hotel and Botes? Which is the better clan?
>>
>>171975134
>aparently you can farm premium account playing Warplanes.
(citation needed)And is this a temporary event or what ?
>>
>>172108849
if you get a heroic medal, or do one of the daily missions you get a "ticket" which you can use to get hanger slots, premium, or planes/special pilot during certain events
>>
>>171968118
>but of all things to a cleveland
IFHE Cleve with a good cplayer cando unsuspecting things. Don't believe the meme that Cleve is trash.
>>
>>172104091
Will you marry me?

I'll even pay for your plane ticket to the Netherlands. You can also play warships on my EU account.
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>>172109593
Why are you so desperate?
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>>172109635
>judging how a man should spend his money
KYS!
>>
>>172109635
This makes my lower half twitch.
>>
>>172109635
S-sexy!
>>
>>172109635
Are destroyers all so slutty?
>>
>>172109635
cute cameltoe!
>>
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>>172111673
I wish they were.
>>
>>172111724
What does this naughty destroyer want me to do with her used panties?
>>
>it's another episode of "dedposter lewding up the thread"
>>
>that time of the night where it's up to SEA to keep the thread up
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>>172112978
Why are you complaining about the best time of the night?
>>
>>172113094
>NA in the middle
>SEAposters to the left and right
>EU behind
>>
Warplanes is fucking shit though
>>
>>172113835
thats the point
as far as im concerned i heard they are trying to rebuild the game from the bottom up, idk i might try it if it looks good
>>
>>172113190
>EU
What's a "EU"?
>>
>>172113835
WG fired their old Warplanes dev staff, but it is probably already too late. Even if they manage to make a much better game, nobody would play it because of the name itself.
>>
>>172113929
When was that news announced?
>>
>>172113950
Europanski Soyuz

The second coming of the Sovietski Soyuz
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>>172113990
https://ritastatusreport.live/2017/03/04/world-of-warplanes-2-0-more-information/
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>>172113990
About a year ago from now, if I remember correctly
>>
New thread

>>172114049
>>172114049
>>172114049
>>
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>>171990952
That battleship seems ready to take off like a japanese anime giant

Bismarckvangelion when?
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