/acg/-Armored Core General

Bump.

I will not let this die like i did with /cfog/!

the future looks dark at this rate.

JUST

I'm about to start Formula Front to pass some time. Anything I should know going in? Or opinions on the game in general? I never see it discussed here at all.

>>171945508
Formula Front is mostly a big arena game IIRC

I'm going out for a bit, so RIP /acg/ again. It's up to you ranker, I'll be back soon.

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>>171947932
I-I will try.

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dont die.

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>4 hours
>only 3 posters

i love AC as much as anyone but you gotta wait until a new AC game is announced. like /aceg/ did

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Sup.

>>171945508
The AI is pretty dumb until you unlock some nice chips.
Which you get by winning.
Just manual control all of it. It'll save you so much pain. I hope you're emulating because those PSP controls are pretty miserable.

Well I have to go for a good while, someone take bumping duty This will 404 when I come back, isnt it?

>>171957212
It won't because i'm here.

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>>171957212
>mfw I get home as soon as ranker leaves
We got this, breh

>>171956879
Gonna emulate it.

Sucks that the AI isn't that good. I had too much fun programming UNACs, I was hoping FF would satisfy my autism more.

>>171960525
Yeah, it's nothing like the UNAC system until you start getting some non-red chips, at which point they start to share a mild similarity. You set behavior priorities, distribute some stat points (how many you get are determined by the head), and then assign chips that can only be set to time intervals.
Do some programming to get a feel for it, but don't expect UNACs. These AIs are a fair bit dumber. But then again, considering this is a PSP game, that's not totally unreasonable.

Main bumpers went out...
So that's what you were aiming for...

Oh cool, Ark did a tutorial.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMsWxunJPGQ

From, pls. Give us some info on whatever robutt game you're doing.

>>171977328
Screw that, THE FUTURE IS NOW
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/845146704143826944/pu/vid/720x1280/cVgprUSEirU7uu4Q.mp4

>>171957304
>>171960525
thank you guys for keeping the thread alive.

>>171965862
Nice pic.

>>171968720
kek

>>171978645
but I want AC on my future Cool shit btw

LIVE DAMN YOU!

>>171978645

BONER STATUS; ACHIEVED.

b

>>171971286
is this suppoose to be a Aaliyah adapted to another mecha type?

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>>171989748
No idea, maybe. I'm just posting some stuff I found on pixiv that I haven't seen here.

>>171990663
Thanks for sharing, pixiv can be a bitch if you dont make a account

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It's a good thing we stopped Stinger from achieving Phantasma's true final form.

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Stinger did literally nothing wrong.

Surely, his DOOMSDAY ORGANIZATION was going to put Phantasma to good use for the betterment of mankind.

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Night

Dont die.

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Don't die

Ugh, I'm getting really sick of hearing about the new Zelda.

>DUDE IT'S 1000/10 THE BEST GAME IN THE UNIVERSE XD

I'm so glad you're back /acg/. Even if it's just for the night, or if we 404 during downtime. I'm just happy to see some good discussion.

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Good luck.

>>172009198

Forgive me for this sacriligious statement, but I honestly want to see an open world Armored Core game. You can drive your mech around like in Xenoblade X, but it's got the combat of AC mixed up with the grounded customization aspect of Chromehounds, and it's got the faction wars of World of Tanks. I know it would never happen, but I can dream, right?

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good night /acg/

>>172012380
I like the idea of being able to choose which missions you take on and then seeing how that affects the world

Hey, I asked about the 360 status of ACVD a couple weeks back, and I've now picked up a copy of it for cheap. Do people ever play on 360, or is it actually dead?

White Glint vs 1 million muscle tracers who wins

>>172005243
Since Nobless Oblige have 2 pilots, I think this one is Gerald, since he is young and have that "idealistic fool" face

>>172012380
it can always be a spin off game.

>>172018198
It's pretty dead now. I'm still down for some coop or 1v1s if you want though.

Gonna be busy today though.

>>171989748
It looks like Aaliyah done in AC2 style.

>>172012380
>>172009198
You almost got our wish with ACV. The "dark souls inspiration" meant 15 minute long 'open world' missions.

I don't think open world would work for AC, but something like 5 different regions (like DeS) where you can stay in each region as long as you want and visit various garages would be nice. The objectives change depending on the progress in the story and the online activity. AC2:AA did something similar with having stacks of missions located to one region, so you could stay in an "area" and just do all of that area's missions on your own before moving onto a new one.

It's just too bad that ACV had so many other problems and was rushed so badly (and had no resources given to it because "lol dark souls"), so they had to half-ass everything.

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So is there any actual benefit in training your AI AC in Silent Line? Also it's good to see this thread is back.

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>>172042117
Boxbot is best bot

>>172042782
You can bring them to fight alongside you in the 2v2 arena.

>>172042117
is this a rice boy reference?

>>172042782
radar heads are probably the most goofy looking heads in all the franchise.

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>>172048879
You take that back.

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>>172049319
>small head, almost skeletal
>big radar stuff coming from it
>the eye is more like a small camera
>ackward desing

is shit. Buckets heads are better.

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>>172051647

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So is the Foundation leader in Verdict Day suppose to be an updated A.I of the chief? The english voice actor sounds the same.

Or is it more of an homage?

>>172060967
According to the side stories from the Link site, he's definitely not Chief. He's some dude named Isaac. In fact, I think Chief took him in and was implied to have made him a little more than human.

A week with the general death and I was somehow sad, we just bump and give ocassional help to a newbie, but that is it.

I go to other more active generals and threads, yet seeing this one alive makes me more happy than any of the others.

>>172018198
I play off and on, I'd be down for some mercing or 1v1s.

>>172075484
Why did Royal Mist make a big deal out of him? He was a pushover.

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>>172048879

>>172075484
that looks like if it came from ONE PIECE

>>172081039

Funny, as he was a let down too.

Oh yeah, so whoever was aking about the PS2 VOTOMS game, what, a month and a half ago?
So I asked Vass and he told me that there are some missions that start you without an AT. For those missions, you bet a big anti-AT rifle.
So yes, there is somewhat of a Mellowlink mode. Kind of.
>>172048879
Do not bully.

rip

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>>172048879
Enjoy getting hit by missiles lmao

>>172042117
If only the optics are good... I rather stick to high precision from BFF

>>172104396

Trufacts, I prefer the boxy look of mechs. I don't like all these sleek anime designs that look like something Shadow the Hedgehog would pilot.

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>>172104518
Apologize.

>>172104821

>not!Sephiroth

Nah.

>realizing that ornstein and smaug in DS1 is just a copy of the white glint 2v1 fight, except with the roles reversed, including the partner going down halfway and the second boss mode.

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>>172119236
>old king in demons souls: good guy that was sealed away
>old king in AC: absolute madman

Really stimulates those frontal lobes

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>>172120064
made this

>>172120064
Anything on DS3 that we can make a parallel?

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>>172130564
Amazigh and the swordsman outside firelink guarding the tower.

Both are lone wolves that use gorilla tactics to win.

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>>172120064

That really releases my limiters.

So do you guys think From Software is gonna announce their new AC game soon?

>>172147882

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA.

HAHAHAHAHAH.

Someone tell him.

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>>172148259
http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/09/21/from-software-working-on-3-games-one-of-which-is-armored-core
You were saying dipshit?

>>172104396
why would White Glint have a red skirt?

bump

>>172148853
I think it's one of those Kancolles.

>>172148749

>release date: 2030

As I was saying.

>>172148749
That's just IGN taking words way too far out of context. Here's what we have, straight from FromSoft/Miyazaki:

"We are very early in development. So early, I cannot even talk about how early it is." That's it. That is all we have officially gotten on the matter. Anything else is just journalists doing what journalists do.

Keep in mind, this statement came directly after TGS-16, before which, he was mistranslated to confirm an AC, a rumor which spread around the internet like wildfire, and was then confirmed to be a mistake on the original journalists' part.

So, sure, they have a game 'in development', but it's nothing more than concepts and sketches at this point. Maybe they've finished a couple models in the past 6 months. Either way, the project is still literally on the drawing board, and most likely doesn't even have a publisher (AKA proper funding) yet. It could be cancelled at any time, or even changed into a completely different project altogether.

>>172148749
>>172154856
Also, bear in mind, that yes, From did state that they were working on 3 new titles. This statement came months before the "New AC" rumor that happened pre-TGS-16. At the time, it was stated that they were working on:

>A new dark-fantasy action-RPG, like Dark Souls.
>A reboot of an old title.
>Something bizarre/weird.

Most people are assuming that the 'reboot' entry must be Armored Core, but there is no actual evidence of that being the case, whatsoever. Given the timing of the two different statements, it's likely that this new AC project could be an additional 4th project to the roster.

In the end, only time will tell. As far as any AC title goes, keep your eyes on TGS for the next couple years. If the project goes through, expect to see the unveiling no sooner than 2018.

LIVE DAMN IT!

>>172147882
>>172148749
>>172148259
>>172154856
>>172155241

From almost always announces new games at E3. If there IS an AC in production, it will likely be announced then.

>>172155241
In another interview miyazaki said that the team would "of course" make an AC game eventually because he knew fans wanted it an it was part of the company's history, but he didn't say when or how or if it would be in production. It was before he said it was in "early development", I just can't remember the source.

>>172158951
This year is also AC's 20th anniversary, I have a feeling that we'll hear about AC6 sometime this year.

>>172159902
E3 2017 is a month before the 20th anniversary too

>>172164512
My hopes are on the E3, maybe when presseting the new DS succesor, they will have one more surprise for long time fans of the company, and whe see a new CG animation with robots all over the place.

is it true that if I wanna get gud I just equip rocket launchers and blade and spam dash really fast?

stop dying damn it.

>>172166763
Depends on the game.

>>172166763
>rocket launchers
>dash

I'm going to assume you're talking about 4th gen armored core here. Grenade launchers (rocket launchers don't exist in the game. There are rockets, but they don't lock on) are the most overpowered weapons in the game.

For every other game, your weapon choice matters less than how well your AC is built around it.

really? page 10 again?

>>172175735
It is and always will be our home

>>172172689
>>172173509
Currently stuck in Verdict Day, so stuck that all I do is paint my mech "Big Dick Rick"

>>172178405
Is this in reference to >>172166763 ?

If so, that's completely wrong for 5th gen. Rockets are relatively worthless, outside of story stuff. And even then, you're better off using something else, most of the time. Blades are only as good as the user. And spamming the QB/HB function will get you murdered.

>>172179126
Ye

>>172177057
Lets hope AC6 can fix that.

STOP DYING DAMN IT

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good night /acg/

>>172159902
>>172164512
>>172158951

I'd love to see a revival or a new installment, but I'm just saying: don't overhype the moment. You'll only be disappointed in the end.

>>172201938

Good night.

Stop posting this cowtit abomination.

>>172178405
Read what all the stats do, use scan mode, try out lots of weapons in test mode, learn how defense thresholds work, learn to tap high boost instead of holding (if you hold it, you kick, which is something else you should learn to use for melee).

Verdict Day is about preparation for the mission, not just reaction time.

Also, never rely on just one weapon. You need at least 3 different weapons (one KE, one TE, one CE) to really enter any mission.

>>172210196

Speaking of which, how many people here still play VD?

>>172199482

>>172212330
It's the only active multiplayer (on PS3 side) but even then it's getting less active. Basically you need to get off 4chan and contact others directly through PSN, reddit, discord, facebook so you can find regular matches. If you have the right friends on PSN you can get matches pretty quick, but multiplayer campaign / conquest mode is dead, it's all Free Battles and fan tournaments.

sometimes people do friday/saturday night VD or sunday night FA, but it's rare.

morning my favorite graveyard on /vg/.

>>172178405
Maybe take a look at >>171972939

FOR FUCK SAKE'S, LIVE!

>>171945291
Still the hardest npc to fight in that game. Shinkai ain't got nothing on the missile spam.

>>172190956
Sure wish I could read all this shit.

bumo

>>172235613
>tfw Interior and even Rosenthal update their aesthetics but GA just doubles down on the block

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>>172248389
America

bump

What are your guys' thoughts on Nier? Trying to decide between that or dark souls 3 for my next game to tie me over until E3.

>>172257019
Havent try nier yet, no enough time, but I will play it this week

>>172257019

How long is the game anyway? I think I might be Nier the end.

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>>172259096
die

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>>172248389
Yeah but Rosenthal's new aesthetic looks like a piece of crap.

>>172265636
It's a cool idea, "Diamonds everywhere", but executed kind of poorly.

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>>172265636
Am I the only one who likes Rosenthal's AESTHETICS?

>>172268930
I love Rosenthal parts except the cores.

>>172268930
nah man, I dig the lancel, but then again I love the exposed heat sink look it has going

>>172268930
That's what I was saying. The Hogire looked cool, especially with the laser wings. The Lancel is just a doodoo which somehow manages to look too blocky and too edgy at the same friggin time.

>>172248389
I would love to see each company's idea of a third generation NEXT, I'm sure some of the outlier companies would come up with some crazy shit.

>Torus makes Sol Dios exceed orbits in place of over boost

>>172270687
The fact that Interior lets Torus get away with so much shit is baffling. I thought they were the most levelheaded of the three big companies.

>>172270923
Interior picked up the crazy from Akvavit to compete with Omer's crazy. They were only most level headed in 4. Rosenthal is probably the most level headed in FA, but by then they're owned by "wanna-be-like-big-daddy-Rayleoneard" Omer.

>>172270687
>Algebra doubles down on the ground combat and creates anti-orbit weapons

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>>172278557
>>172268930
>>172265636

Stop drawing these mechs in mid-air! They're not gundams damnit!

>ac4 was mistake

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>>172279951
But ACs from 4th gen basically are in the air all the time, the art is accurate.

>>172270923
It seemed to me like they were putting out some effort into trying to fix earth's situation, they'd probably be the best company to work for.

>>172272534
>GA decides the New Sunshine isn't satisfactory and makes the brand new GA-03 BRICK, the first one man controlled Arms Fort

>>172281413
>It seemed to me like they were putting out some effort into trying to fix earth's situation

who? Interior or TORUS?

>>172257019
I honestly cannot praise Automata enough. Best new game I have played in years. Then again, I'm also a massive Yoko Taro fanboy, so I may be biased.

pmub

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Whoa! AC lives!

There was something I wanted to ask you guys a few days ago, but i've forgotten what I wanted to ask you all. Dammit.

Hmm... think, THINK!

OOOHHHH I remember now! What do you guys think about Soul Saber 2 on PC? I have not played it but it looks somewhat like the based gameplay is from older Armored Core games. There's netplay too.

>>172280380
It says Hari was betrayed by Malzel. Do we have any indication or idea how that happened?

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>>172296119
it appears to be a minstranslation about the context, is more about Malzel getting eager to initiated te closed plan, so he send Hari on a mission before time, and got him killed, probably made him attack a Arteria when it had a NEXT defending it without support.

>>172296119
Where did you hear that? I read somewhere that he has cut voice lines that imply he was piloting the Aretha that shows up at the satellite cannons mission on hard mode.

>>172297260
I've also heard this one before. It's kind of weird though, since Hari is still on the ORCA lineup for order matches.

>>172296108
You talk like a fag.

>>172297498
The arena doesnt have relationship to the actual state of the pilots on 4 era.

>>172297498
>You talk like a fag.
Didn't know people like you roam /acg/. I guess it's not as dead as I thought.

>>172297725
I distinctly remember pilots disappearing off the roster during the first playthrough of FA though, and the Collared arena even shuts down entirely when ORCA appears. That feature gets removed during NG+ though. Unless I'm just remembering things incorrectly.

>>172297809
I've always been here. It's even deader than you thought.

Damn I had been posting withouth my lovely rank

>>172296108
The game seems weebs as fuck, but going by the videos I saw, while having some similarities, it also really different in other aspects , just looking at how melee combat is.

>>172297963
I remember the arena locking on the first playthrough, but no that eliminates the pilots killed at that point if you play it, I may be remembering things incorrectly of course.

>>172278557
STRONG

BRITISH

SHOULDERS

rip

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>>172298059
>The game seems weebs as fuck
>He thinks Armored Core isn't weeb as fuck

Mr. B+Ranker, you are one delusional person.

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>>172303320
But Armored Core isn't weeb as fuck though.

>>172296108
Do their clothes explode?
Do the mens' clothes explode?
What kind of nudity do the robots have to suffer?

Is it really as unbalanced as that one guy makes it out to be?
Are there even 12 people playing it?
>>172297963
Pilots disappear as they're killed in missions. Since Hari's the rank 10 and I'm pretty sure the game lets you fight him, that means he's alive. Maybe someone should find out how long he stays alive by starting a new game, blitzing to rank 11, and then playing the game proper.

How do you think humanity's doing out in space after the success of the closed plan?

>>172296108
this is bait

Soul Saber doesn't play like AC. Soul saber plays like Gundam Extreme VS, which is only anecdotally similar to AC because AC was influential in designing Extreme VS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fui2SW4Qqo

It would not surprise me if Soul Saber was a straight-up third party port of the extreme VS engine, too.

That being said, Extreme VS is a fantastic game. JP only though. When AC went aerial with 4th gen, Gundam got gritty and started putting out all these great mech games that we never got here in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCVZgjmtKSQ This honestly looks more like AC than 4th gen does, minus the customization.

>>172297963
>>172298280
>>172297725

LR, 4, and FA all had a simulated arena, you fought in VR simulations.

>>172303320
AC is a western style game made by a highly Japanese company. From is a "westaboo" company.

The only "weaboo" style mechs in the series are in 4 and FA. There's 13 other games that are completely different.

>>172310130
Still ruled by corporations, probably. But maybe that corporate totalitarianism allowed them to not fucking die in space, since it is a hostile environment and everyone needs to work together to survive. Maybe the League actually started functioning properly instead of being Omer's political front.

>>172310130
Since ACV and VD was welded into the FA canon, it's presumed that the closed plan failed and that the League or Old King ending is the "true" ending of ACFA. Mankind never went to space, they went underground when the cradles fell.

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>friend is burned out on dark souls series, asks for game recommendations, they just finished nier automata
>was talking about armored core
>they think it's interesting, likes how the lore and worldbuilding in dark souls works
>talk about in-game mail in AC3, this gets their dick hard
>they try out AC3 portable on PC
>"this is a ridiculously good game"
>they're freaking out a little bit and are probably going to binge-play the entire PS2/PSP franchise.

>>172320683
You've done well anon.

>>172321112
I recommended they just used default controls and changed them as they played and got more comfy with the game, instead of trying to use some remapped control scheme from the start, since that seemed daunting to them. AC3 is easy enough that I think you could beat it using whatever controls you wanted to.

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>>172286236
AC1, AC2, AC2:AA

what is it about these old fucking games man

>>172322930
>not including master of arena in that list

I remember when people though AC2 was the only 'good' armored core game. But the more I think about it, the more I think that literally the only weak links in the chain were AC4 and Nine breaker, with the best being anywhere from Master of Arena to Silent Line.

From did better when they were mostly independent and not chained to multiplayer mode, cross platform ports, and publishers.

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>>172305849
Delusional.

>>172313469
>ABC isn't Weeabo
>XYZ is Weeabo
So the current AC is weeb as fuck.Then it's weeb as fuck. You have no argument. No one cares about those ancient AC games. You don't need to educate me on what no longer exist.

>AC is western style
What the fuck. There isn't a single MechWarrior/EarthSeige/Decent-like AC game. Behead yourself.

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>>172323679
Stop trying so hard, anon.

>>172316635
side material reveals that the coorporations actually tried to fix the contaminantion, and that Chief and Carol were AI built to help with the work, after all their attempts fail, they left earth, leaving Chief and Carol with the never ending mission of studying humanity or something like that. The towers probably were somekind safe haven from the contamination, were they locked themselves in their last years before saying "fuck it" and building a gigant spaceship.

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>>172320683
good work anon.

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>>172323679
>So the current AC is weeb as fuck.

5th gen is the least "weeb" games in the series. Did you forget that ACV and ACVD exist? They're like mechwarrior levels of blocky realism.

You should play some -actual- weeb/anime inspired mech games like ZoE or Gundam and realize how wrong you are about calling AC a weeb series.

>>172323679
>No one cares about those ancient AC games.

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Just because a lot of /acg/ people talk about AC4/FA does not mean that they don't care about the PS2 games, which are still considered the highlight of the franchise.

>2 games are anime-like, and they're still more western than gundam games.
>13 games are western-style, but with slight Japanese influence

if you call is a "weeb" franchise, go ahead. Believe whatever you want to believe, but you're still wrong according to everyone else's definition of "weeb" and the games that Japan actually does put out.

>>172313148
>AC was influential in designing Extreme VS.

Source

>>172324950
You keep saying AC has Western influence, but you aren't showing me any source, and I already named the Western mech games and none of them are similar to and AC game. Z.O.E no longer exist. Gundam is the only mecha series with video games right now. AC no longer exist.

ACV looks like AC4 with outdated technology. Wait... whoa! That's ACV! It's inferior 4.

>>172325529
I didn't mean "directly influential" but that extreme vs plays more like AC than other gundam games.

Soul saber plays like extreme vs, therefore soul saber seems as if it plays "similar" to AC, when actually it plays "exactly" to extreme vs.

>>172325339
>implying 95% of those post isn't samefag

>>172325859
>this game contradicts my argument, therefore it doesn't exist and I'm going to pretend it's something else

just go play the fucking games you baiting shitposter.

Anime-style mech games like ZoE and Gundam have you in the air permanently, you get unlimited amounts of ammo, you auto-target, the story is linear, you have a set number of weapons that you swap between, and you fight big giant robot fortress enemies with cutscenes. You fight in wide open areas with lots of flashy dodging and no use of cover.

Western games (like mechwarrior) have you on the ground with some jumping/flying (just like every AC game except for AC4 and ACFA), you have to manually aim with some target racking (like every AC game except for AC4 and ACFA) you fight in groups or against similar sized enemies (just like every AC game except for AC4 and ACFA). Dodging isn't flashy and there's lots of use of cover. (just like every AC game except for AC4 and ACFA).

Mechwarrior is older and more dead than AC, but you keep saying it exists as a counter argument. How come the other 13 AC games mysteriously "don't exist" when they contradict your opinion?

Oh right, because you're an idiot bating replies on an anonymous message board which will delete these replies in a few days. But the sense of satisfaction you get from spewing bullshit and being shot down will last forever, I guess.

So why aren't guys all buying Soul Saber so we can all have weekend battle royals? I didn't mean to shill, I was just wondering if there was anyone here playing the game. I'm pretty sure they would have told other ACbros and attempted to form a community. If not, just forget it.

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>>172326382
This is the equivalent of me going to the current fighting game community and talking about SF2 as if it's played today. No one gives a flying fuck because those game are ancient. The only thing we care about is the NOW. And RIGHT NOW AC GAMES ARE WEEB AS FUCK. End of story.

Like I said, you don't need to educate me on what no longer exist and yet... here you are still trying to use that at your advantage. Pathetic.

ACV is nothing more than an inferior 4, that's literally the blueprint of the fucking game. And it has all the weeb shit you listed. Big ass fortresses, edgy character, "System Scan Mode" WOW THAT'S SOUNDS SO COOL! But it's a Western game because you move around like a fucking monkey nigger. Like Wiston from Overwatch. GTFOH.

If I ever see you on the battlefield I'll kill you, oldfag. When was the last time you even piloted a mech. You're just a nostalgia fag holding onto the pass.

>>172326467
You could have said that from the start

>>172327503
>ACV is nothing more than an inferior 4

4 plays closer to last raven than to ACV, and ACVD is a better game than 4 in pretty much every respect. For Answer has a better story though.

>>172327503
>AC4/FA is weeb-ish (true)
>ACV/VD is an "inferior" version of AC4/FA (wtf?)
>All the other games do not exist anymore (wtf?)
>"weeb" is about country of origin, not style or gameplay (wtf?)
>none of the 2007 to 2008 AC games play like mechwarrior, therefore the entire franchise is weeb (wtf?)

you are right about one tiny thing: AC4 and FA are closer to anime-style mech games like gundam than they are to mechwarrior.

everything else you're spouting is bullshit

AC has always been stuck between "western" and "eastern" style mechs, with ACFA leaning more on eastern, and all the other games (including 5th gen) leaning more on western.

hey guys glad to see we're not dead
i want to make a video game by myself, i feel really inspired
i don't know how to code, though. or anything about game engines. but i've looked into a few and want to start experimenting
anyways i think i want to make a mecha SRPG, kind of a spiritual successor to front mission with lots more armored core influence. i don't know if i want the storytelling to be more dramatic like FM or more subdued like AC, but i'm leaning towards more dramatic. i still like the post-apoc setting because it allows for a lot of freedom.
i don't know if this is a crazy stupid idea or not
it would take a lot of time and effort. but i read stories of guys who teach themselves everything and do it all by themselves over the course of a few years and if it manages to be a good game filled with passion, people generally love it, even if it is rudimentary by today's standards. but it has to surprise people.
i'm super passionate about anything i put my mind to and i have a lot of creative ideas/experience playing shit tons of video games. i also have impeccably patrician taste
i just need the skills, motivation, and good solid ideas to stick to
mecha is still cool and i don't think SRPGs are dead yet. fire emblem is still around and that manages to be pretty addicting. i want to combine the drama of front mission with the cool factor/customization of armored core along with the addictiveness of fire emblem as well as of course drawing aesthetic influence from ace combat. i'm even considering a base building/metagame aspect like peace walker/MGSV but i don't want to overload the player with too much shit to do in between sorties. or maybe i do, i don't know. i'm not even close to there yet.
anyways just dropping in to say hi and thought maybe some of you nerds would dig this idea

>>172331751
Gonna lay some hard truth on you:

You need to be able to code, or have enough cash to hire coders.

Otherwise, it's just crazy ideas. Story, plot, setting, style, those are the last 5% of game development.

50% of it is just working on the engine to make it run somewhat like what you want to do gameplay-wise.
45% is adding content (textures, models, maps, music, graphics, lighting, items, weapons, NPCs, etc.)
The last 5% is everything you want to do.

I cant belive that innocently calliing a game "weeb as fuck" would trigger so much autism(discussion) , glad to see the thread alive tough

>>172331751
I would love to help, but I am in the process of learning anything that could actually help with it, and what anon says here is true >>172334208 , while the concept part of the game can take while, and is need it to start doing the rest, the meat of the work is working with the engine, making models, texture, lighting, visual effects, etc. The code part is another huge shit.

btw I had a idea like that too, I love Tactics RPG, glad to see another person having the similar likes.

>>172323679

>No one cares about those ancient AC games

DELET THIS

>>172331751
Try using Unity and try to make a very basic prototype of the gameplay there. There's tons of tutorials and vids. I'm also making a game (that's not mech related, but I was inspired by the AC games), and what I do is set very, very small tasks to do one day or another so I don't burn myself out. I'm a lazy asshole, but it has been working for me.

>>172331751
>>172347886
And by very basic I mean don't worry about graphics, sounds, user interface or anything, just use very simple placeholder assets. Just try to make a simple basic fight and you will learn a lot while doing so. Watch/read tutorials and read/ask questions in forums and whatnot for what you want and someone will be able to help you.

Hell, I remember asking on the Unity forum for help in coding a simple arm wrestling minigame and someone just went and did the whole thing for me basically. (Thanks dude!)

Someone help with the bumping

>>172320683
>>"this is a ridiculously good game"

reading those words make me happy.

>>172334208
that's just some regular truth. i just wanted to say something interesting aka video games-related to talk about rather than "i'm wanna make a game so i'm gonna learn to code"
i'm aware of it all and appreciate your honesty
there appears to be a large amount of literature online on how to code, so i will be teaching myself as i go. plenty of people have done it.
i have rudimentary knowledge already (and much better knowledge in object-based coding aka max/MSP - i've been told some engines these days use object-based programming environments), i just need to learn game engines as >>172347886 here suggests starting with unity which is exactly how i plan on going about doing it.
i dream big and adjust to reality as time passes

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>tfw you go grocery shopping and get in the car and some guy is walking up to your driver's window to talk to you and you spaghetti.jpg and leave in a hurry.

Can't tell if i'm anti social as fuck or I just avoided a mugging/car jacking.

It was also daylight outside.

>>172355103
more like socially awkward

Reminder that there are more poor AC games than good and the last entry worth a damn came out 12 years ago. Temper your expectations for 6.

>>172356441
It's easy to be a cynic

I take it the PSP versions of 3/SL/LR are the definitive versions right? Do 3 and Silent Line use the post-Nexus control scheme?

>>172334208
If there's one dude in here I'd trust to pull it off, it's Jeck. He's got all the artsy shit down, at least. Still, it might be way too much effort for one person.

>>172357954
What about the single guy that made Undertale?

You can do it if you put your mind to it.

ded

>>172363218
gay

>>172363907
no u

>>172357297
The PSP versions are not definitive at all.

Pros:
>Widescreen
>Runs better, less hardware
>built-in netplay / multiplayer
>more parts
>more arena enemies
>PSP emulators are better than PS2

Cons:
>30p instead of NTSC (not as smooth playback) Fix: None
>PSP control scheme (no dual analog, no R2/L2) Fix: you have to do some tricky remapping with the PS3 controller on PC, or play on Vita and remap to second analog.
>Requires a PSP cheat to run properly. Fix: Add the cheat to your cheat folder

So they're better if you're willing to deal with the added awkwardness or play on Vita, they're worse if you just want to pick them up and play right away.

For the record, my laptop can run the PSP versions at 4x resolution, but can't run the PS2 version anywhere close to 15fps

>>172355103
He was probably begging for gas or trying to get you to buy something, at least in my experience.

>>172356441
good AC games
>AC:MoA
>AC2
>AC3
>Silent Line
>Last Raven
>For Answer
>Verdict Day

alright AC games
>1
>PP
>Another Age
>Nexus
>4

poor AC games
>Nine Breaker
>V (was alright/good when servers were up, is poor now)

>Last game worth giving a damn about
Verdict day, 2013. Great game. Best game since Last Raven. Only reason it didn't sell well was because V was so bad and because bandai gave Verdict day no marketing (it didn't even have an opening video).because they were too focused on souls.

>when you want to get back into AC, but your thumb is broken in a way where you can't move it because of some weird ligament issue, and your doctor just kinda shrugs on what to do

AC FOR PC WHEN

>>172370990
emulate, use kb+m

>>172371940

Would AC benefit from official implementation of KBM? I know some people here hate the idea of AC going to the PC because they have a hate of the mustard race (COUGHAHAB) but I'm just curious. I think it could work, but they should reduce the effectiveness of the FPS and have aiming be more reliant on the mouse.

>>172376357
The main problem is that aiming, turning speed, responsiveness, and movement control are all tied to ingame stats, not your settings in a menu. I can see mustards getting triggered and calling the game shit because their AC doesn't do instant 360 spins when they flick their high sensitivity mouse.

Then again, the Mechwarrior crowd enjoys the exact same thing and that's a PC franchise, so who knows.

>>172376357
No. There's 2 reasons why KB+M won't work well for AC:

1. Progressive input
All AC games from Nexus on (and most notable in V/VD) use progressive input. The harder/further you press a button, the more of a difference it makes. PS3 controller has progressive input on all buttons, PS2 controller has it on the analog sticks. KB+M has none. The KB+M equivalent is "tapping" but the problem is that tapping at half speed isn't the same as holding at "half throttle"

2. Restricted Turning
Since ACs have a limited turning speed, you don't move the "camera" when looking around. You move the lockbox, which is tied to the AC's turning speed when moving left/right. Other PC mech games get away with this by allowing free manual aiming while you turn, using the mouse for that. AC doesn't have manual aiming, which means you either have a dead mouse (not intuitive) or the mouse has to constantly wait for the mech to 'catch up' with the direction you're pulling it in.

Does this make the game impossible to play on KB+M? No. It's easy, many people have done it.

Does this mean you would lose something significant to the gameplay when transitioning to KB+M? Yes.

It's not as bad as something like Gran Turismo or other racing sims, but it's close. The concept of boost being a throttle in ACFA alone is not something you can reconcile on KB+M.

An AC on PC would have to drastically re-think these things, either simplifying the mechanics or getting rid of some gameplay staples such as turning speed limitations or boost speed as a throttle.

>>172377750
>>172376357

Also, to clarify what I mean:

An AC on PC can be -good- if they change those things. But it would be simplified or not feel like armored core. Probably a bigger shift than from 4th gen to 5th gen. That's not bad, but if the choice is something that doesn't feel like AC, or having no KB+M support, I'd rather it be the latter.

Thankfully From Software seems to have no intention whatsoever of making KB+M a preferred way to play a game, given the souls series reliance on the controller (even though souls is actually very KB+M friendly by comparison).

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So I started reading Fort Tower Blade and I'm wondering, is pic related supposed to be Bullet Life? They call it Titan Fist, but build wise, it's completely identical to Bullet Life.

>>172380369
Aaliyah-chan was the seminal robut of her generation and the one after. Try to be like Aaliyah-chan, kids.

>>172394942
probably a reference more than anything else.

>>172395713
Seems to be the case, Fort Tower Blade was pretty naicu, Flight Nest would be a comfy organization to work for.

>>172394942

This actually made me wanna make a fanfiction character that made a subtle hint towards a previous character. Been working on it for a while now.

>name: Eight ball
>description: he claims to be the heir to a legendary pilot, but he still has alot to learn.

What do you guys think?

>>172403287

>when you can't read chinese

This sucks.

>>172395101
Fuck you, Tellus-chan was still best girl.

4A isn't even that weeby
It's just a game set in a world with highly advanced technology. This is contrasted against the shittier normals and muscle tracers, which I could honestly see in the average western game.

>>172415680
Weeby in this context just means giant robots going zippy fast. Western games didn't have much of that, especially in 2008.

>the most interesting part of ACV/VD's lore is wondering who the fuck is producing all these AC parts and why are they profiting off of the never ending war between EGF, Sirius, and Venide.

>We will never know

>>172405501
The eight ball guy already exist in canon

>>172423193
isnt that already explained? On V, most parts are salvaged from fallen ACs and anythin they can find, sometimes Chief anc Carol will give new parts to people like father and Cesar

On VD, with the towers now in the picture, civilization has regained the capacity to produce ACs parts again.

>>172430137
I always wondered if the ACs we see in V are the only ACs in the world at the time and they're all made from literal trash and other parts.

>>172434127
I like to think that after the corps left the earth, people had a couple of NEXTs, a bunch of ACs and hundred of MTs. As time passes more facilities to produce new parts. were lost and the constant fight for resource wear down the machines, they start using parts of different machines just to make them work, creating weird mix of NEXT, ACs and MTs, the end result of this for decades if no centuries, are the ACs we see on V.

>>172405501
I think you should play 2.

Does anyone have translated versions of any of the books/novels? If they don't exist can someone teach me japanese please

>>172442319
Post ergo proxy ambient.

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>>172443539
ok

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>>172443871

>>172438620
Anyone?

>>172462625
They don't seem to exist. Sorry.

>>172462625
Nope, any info we have from those books are from people that know moon and posted just a resume of certain pages or small detail somewhere, most of tha scarce info is on the wiki, but is far from completed

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JUST

>>172370990
Well, been a time and a half since we've seen you around here.
What happened to the clever ways of hiding that phrase? I rather liked those.

>>172475293
>this build is so cool but completely awful for PvP

Forever sadness.

rip

>>172480983
who made this

I must see more

>>172489673
>Best guess for this image: titanfall gundam
I'll get back to you on that.

>>172489673
Got it.
http://henry1025.deviantart.com/art/YH10-DYNASTES-366722914

>>172480983

I should use this as a wallpaper.

>>172475473
I fucking know, susch beautiful NEXT, and the weapons are good too, yet is a piece of shit on PvP


172498307
Really? at least we get more AC fanart.

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>>172498307
Those last two episodes, man.

>>172499670
Nice

No spoiler please, currently watching episode 10, I will finish this tomorrow.

>>172499513
it's because alicia is such a terrible leg set. It's literal only advantage of Aaliyah is its lower energy drain, but the weapon set for Unsung is much more attuned to constant pressure, not jumping or aerial attacks.

The only way to make Unsung work would be to make it basically an Aaliyah version of White Glint. Put it on a pure aaliyah biped frame, Give it marve+motocobra and then either dual saline05 or some complementary missile like the high accuracy ones or actual vertical missiles (instead of the psuedo-vertical PM ones).

One thing I never understood is why they made the big bad AC a reverse joint with upward trajectory missiles... and had you fight him in a small enclosed space where all those weapons are useless.

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>>172492453
>he has unsung on his deviant art

awesome

>>172501942
I just think they designed the NEXT without considering the map were you face him, but Shinkai actually benefits from that area, so I dont know

Question about OP-I:

I know it "doubles" cooling and EN recovery but:

Does it double your radiator cooling, or your total (radiator+Frame) cooling?

And Does it double your energy output, or your total (after drain) energy recovery?

Basically, does OP-I affect the stats of the individual parts, or the stats of the whole AC after drain/cooling is taken into account?

>>172502247
Shinkai and My Bliss are both good choices for the map.

Unsung and Reichterpallash are TERRIBLE choices for that map. It doesn't make much sense either.

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>>172498307

>>172502247

Really? how does he benefit?

>>172502691
I assume it's whole AC stats, but I can't find any good information on that.
Maybe we can give Last Raven Patch Anon a small distraction by cracking open 3 Portable to find out.

>>172517861
Why do people fixate so much on Lillium and Merrygate?