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Fix Dva, or the bunny gets it!

>Introducing Orisa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNBmyM6Ievc

>Live Patch Notes
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/game/patch-notes/pc/

>PTR Patch Notes
https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/blog/20635660#patchnotes

>Overwatch Dev Tracker
http://www.overstalk.io/

>Convert source mouse sensitivity
https://jscalc.io/calc/djyxBymfcWCIgD4f

>Stats and Leaderboards
https://masteroverwatch.com
https://overbuff.com/

>Competitive Info
http://gosugamers.net/overwatch
http://over.gg/

>Previous thread was
>>171874985
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Remember, you're here forever
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Imagine how much the meta would shift for the better if Sombra was allowed to have the buffs she actually needs.
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>tfw I thought this was the season I'd make it to plat
>Finish placements
>Placed in Bronze again
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>>171921048
>its another "5 dps instant lock in competitive" episode
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Suppose Blizzard gave you the power to remove 1 hero from the game in its entirety. Who do you pick?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12596151
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>>171921163
Lucio
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>>171921163
Widowmaker

I think sniping attracts the worst and when people are good at it it's just not fun to play against
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>see somebody with a girlish name on your team

wat do
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>>171921272
Vote on the strawpoll.

Also, why Lucio?
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>>171921297
play the game
i mean, what else i'm gonna do
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>>171921163
In the past if this was a real thing, we could just fix the game by removing Reinhardt. Now there's also the negrotaur.
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>>171921298
I think he's the most boring character, but he's absolutely necessary. Bad combo. Get rid of him, characters based around passive auras are always terrible.
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>>171920974
I like Posh and Rose better but it is good. Why are her legendaries terrible?
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>pick reinhardt on attack
>literally never go past the choke unless your flankers somehow manage to get a teamwipe alone
how the fuck are these people in diamond
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>>171921297
If she isn't in a two man team (she is tho) consider picking someone who works good with Mercy.
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>>171921163
Genji purely because he's a magnet for idiots and I don't want people playing a useless ass hero

People stopped fotming hanzo, and widowmaker also attracts idiots but at least she can be good in the right hands

Genji is just a useless block of wood who does nothing until he ults and then gets immediately cc'd or has to use reflect wasting 50% of the duration and/or killing him
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>>171921158
>It's a Genji never switches when the enemy team is Rein, D.Va, Mei, Winston, Soldier and Lucio episode
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>>171921163
Removing Reinhardt would force them to actually fix their shit map design instead of forcing us to slow push forever.
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>>171921427
Diamond is the new plat now
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Why doesn't Rein have a melee attack?
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>>171921618
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>>171921618
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>>171921618
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>>171921402
Slipstream's the best!
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>>171921728
>>171921749
>>171921786
He means quick melee like every other class
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the new Lucio changes are over the top. They buffed him too much. On top of this insane movement I can also do a good chunk of damage? As someone who can already land headshots consistently with Lucio, this moves him from the "annoying" category to just plain dangerous. A SUPPORT.
They should at least remove one or more of his buffs, like the increased projectile speed or the speedboost when you jump off a wall

>100+ hours Lucio main
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what's more important, switching a hero as soon as possible or getting an ult as the hero you're currently playing as, then switching
i always hate switching when my ultimate is like 40% charged because it feels like i waste all that charge
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>>171921618
kek
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>>171921998
its dumb af i want to go FAST and HEAL

if i wanted to just do damage i would play a fucking dps
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>>171921998
glad its on ptr first then
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>>171922094
well now you can play dps lucio
how about that
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>>171922034

depends on the hero

if i have full graviton surge or mei ult i'm not switching off
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>>171921895
Good as well but I get triggered if I don't see my characters eyes.
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i knew that these lucio buffs wouldn't make it to live unchanged. fuck blizzard
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>>171921998
This. I just want to skate around and boop people off ledges.
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>>171921163
>>171921292
This, I swear to god. A bad widow is annoying to have on your team, a good widow is the most anti-fun shit and just forces everyone to cluster around Reinhardt even more

At least in other games there's multiple flanking routes and everyone isn't slow as molasses, and they don't give the sniper a goddamn grappling hook
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why was blizzard willing to dump a dozen buffs on Ana within 2 weeks but barely gives anything to Sombra whenever they buff her?
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>>171922187
well yeah if i have a charged up ult ill use it before switching
but for example if i play tracer and the enemy team has barriers out the ass and its back covered by symmetra turrets i feel it's more useful for me to just give up on that half charged pulse bomb and switch to pharah or junkrat to unload a bunch of damage on the barriers
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>>171921272
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>>171922478
because sombra is fine. you just have to figure out her spray pattern
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be my friend and play competitive with me

NA support main at 2100

Bnet - Mollywhoppin#1159
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>>171922585
no
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>>171922585
You're sad
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>>171922585
stop posting this in every thread.
just talk to people in game or press the group up button in comp or qp faggot
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>>171922585
You stupid heal slut
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>>171922034
>switching a hero as soon as possible or getting an ult as the hero you're currently playing

Depends on the impact of the ULT and the problem you are looking to solve with a switch. D.va's ULT can gain your team the CP so maybe you keep it, even if that means you can't switch to Winston to deal with a Genji. Being at least you can try to deal with it as D.va.

but say Junkrat vs a Pharah or Zarya, his ULT is only good for a few kills at best unless the other team is all shitters. Yet a Pharah can rip the living shit out of your team and maybe the Zarya is always at max charge slaughtering everyone left and right. The few kills from the ULT is not worth the body count that stacks up as you gain 60% more ULT charge.... to get 2-3 kills

>as if trashmice ever change
>muh gold damage!!
>MAXIMUM CHARGE!!
>but I muh gold damage!!
>Oгoнь пo гoтoвнocти
>TEAM KILL!!
>but.. but muh gold damage.. Muh ult!
>Ladies and Gentlemen, start your engines!!!
>double kill!!
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>>171921163

Bastion.
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>playing Pharah with an Orisa on the team

This shit is so good, her mini-grav holds them in place for so long that barrage is ez kills
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>Finally starting to get gold elims most of my matches as Tracer

So this... is the power... of flankers... not bad.
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>>171922676
nice, just saw this on reddit ;)
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>>171921163
tossup between hanzo, windowmaker, and reinhardt
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Any Australian players in the Gold region who want a dedicated Mercy?
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>>171921297

>cute girl over the mic playing mercy wants to group up
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>>171922681
i played garbagerodent earlier and kept slaying their mercy and baiting their reinhardt to charge into one of my traps

i mean we had a zarya and reinhardt, they had a reinhardt, i dont know why they didn't try and counter me
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>>171921163
Roadhog purely because Blizzard is so damn insistent that he have an easy guaranteed kill
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>Be Reinhardt main
>Enjoy him a lot, just gets tiring not being in control of your own destiny
>Finally got to diamond
>Went on a huge losing streak after, to no/little fault of my own
>Finally get tired of this and go to QP to practice Reaper because I think he is fun
>Am decent now
>Back in platinum
>Just keep playing him
>People bitch non-stop
I actually love this now. At least now when we lose I can say I could've done something about it. I fucking hate. HATE. Playing Reinhardt. I think he is the most fun hero, but I can't stomach losing anymore and having my team scratch their heads like they don't know what the fuck the problem was.

At least now when I lose I can say I could've prevented it somehow.
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what Sombra skin should I buy?
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>>171923102
did you screech over mic ad infinitum about the virtue of hiding behind your shield and pushing forward

while also understanding your own limitations and not overextending if they actually listen?
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>>171923140
Noche, Glitch, or Cyberspace
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>>171923216
They don't listen, that is the problem. And I never rage, at least not over the mic. I just politely point out what is going wrong, and ask for a correction. Most of the time I don't get it.

It's just infuriating to watch your team not understand Reinhardt because they don't play him because he is "boring". At least understand him you mother fuckers, so that you can play with me and not against.

My favorite is when I get the perfect charge off, and no one follows up. Oh, but when I get a fat earthshatter down everyone turns into a fucking shark when there is chum in the water.
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>>171923216
>tfw have a Reinhardt autistically screeching over his mic about how we need to group up
>Entire team groups up
>He charges towards the first enemy he sees
>Predictably gets gangbanged and dies in 2 seconds flat
>"Jesus Christ you guys are bad. I'm done."
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>>171923102
dont know what its like in plat but it only gets worse in diamond. gets a little less silly in masters and starts to get normal/little serious in GM Tbh
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Should I main Mei? She seems pretty ok on attack. Ice wall a choke and you can get in pretty easily
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>>171923448
I mean "maining" a character like Mei isn't the best idea cause she's not always the best like a Rein or Ana, but I'd definitely learn her. She's very underestimated, you can get a lot of kills just separating people with the wall
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>>171923265
good taste in skins, but i prefer aug over cyber.
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The enemy has a teleporteur.

https://clyp.it/po210deq
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>>171923448
She's meh on attack. Practise on hitting her right click if you want some picks. Mostly focus on area denial, separating the enemy team and zoning though. If you want to play her on attack, don't take the role of a dps but take the role of a tank.
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>>171923378
I am the guy who posted >>171923102

I am willing to level with people that there are a lot of shitty Reinhardts out there, and it creates distrust and lack of willingness to follow up with Reinhardts because you generally assume we're all shit. Ok, fine.

But if you clearly see I know my shit, please, PLEASE fucking work with me. Follow up on my charges, bubble me if we have a Zarya, stay behind my shield. Don't just fucking notice me when I earthshatter you mother fuckers.

Not that it really matters, I honestly hit my breaking point with Rein last week and ever since have been doing nothing but playing Reaper. I highly doubt I'll ever go Rein again until I get to an SR tier that is cohesive enough to listen to me. Rein just takes too much trust for low tiers.
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Blizzard App is CUTE!
CUTE!
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Holy fuck this Junkrat buff was the stupidest idea ever
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>playing ana with roadhog and a winston
>nana boosts every 30s
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>>171923827
based good guy
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>>171923821
I keep forgetting that I no longer have to keep my distance from enemies so I don't damage myself. It's like playing with a shotgun now.
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>>171923769
Is Reaper any good? I thought he was kind of shit since Soldier can do anything he can from across the map
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>>171921163
voted for torbjorn since the fucking midget seems to attract actual autists that insist on playing him no matter how useless he is
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>>171923881
He's something of an unorthodox pick. He's good at getting in tanks faces and ripping them apart, but if he can't get in close he's tragically bad.
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To what direction are they going with these Lucio changes? Why not buff and tweak the clearly underpowered heroes?
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>>171923996
ever since that dark day last summer i can never look at torbjorn ever again

>playing on hanamura
>guy named Vorebjorn on our team playing torbjorn
>whenever he respawned he would say on mic in a bad swedish accent "Vorebjorn, ready to eat!"
>when he ulted he screamed MOLTEN VORE
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>>171924178
They wanted him to be more involved and less of a must pick. His healing is much better now and he can actually do thing by himself but he has to remain close to people now. No more contributing massively to a team by just being there
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>>171924178
too much work when they could just change numbers around
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>>171923881
He is fun, that is all I care about now.

He can shortdick any tank in the game, especially Roadhog if the Hog you're fighting doesn't have his hook/misses it.

I hope Orisa becomes meta so that I might not get as bitched at for going Reaper in the future.
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>>171924414
Orissa is OP
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>mfw teammates tell me to switch off Torbjorn on Hollywood and Eichenwalde
>mfw I hold the enemy at the first point 80% of the time as him

Torbjorn's gun is basically roadhogs+McCree but as a projectile, once you learn that its so fucking easy to patrol an area and melt people
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>>171924197
Holy shit
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>>171924471
as a sombra main, I pray other team picks rein and orissa. Sombra kills her with 1 magazine in the face
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God Tier
All solo queue

High Tier
3 premades + 3 solo

Mid Tier
2+2 premades+2 solo

Shit Tier
You and 5 premades
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>>171924602
lol no she doesn't
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>>171924602
>implying you'll ever get the chance to unload a full clip in her
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>>171923881
Melts tanks and supports, creates lots of disorder in the enemy team when flanking.

It's like a Tracer, but slow, capable of taking different flanking routes, way more tanky and easier to aim with. Also has a kinda shitty ult that charges slowly.
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Why the devs do not post ptr patch notes on Battle.net app?
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>>171924621
>>171924684
lol. You are probably type of people who start whining when some one picks sombra. I have 40 hours on her and if you have brain and aim this bitch is insane. Especially with her wallhack
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MercyPlayer to Soldier76Player: I need damage!
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>>171924604
You forgot

Browner than shit tier: 4 solo and one duo premade
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>>171924828
ebin maymay friend, upboats to the left!
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>>171924860
>mfw I'm the duo and main pharah while my friend mains mercy

pretty high winrate too desu
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>>171924769
Those are threre - occasionally. You can view them next to the blue Play-button. (But sometimes there text "View patch notes" isn't there, or even if it is, it's not working, and gives a 404.)
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>>171924773
Ok. We've got s pro Sombra here
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came here to say mercy is fucking shit
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Gentlemen, how do we fix Torb?
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>>171924929
The ptr got patched and no notes with it, I opnened my youtube feed and there was a video of someone commenting on lucio's damage buff.
I just get pissed that I have to go to foruns or watch a video to know friigging patch notes that should be on the launcher
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>>171925029
I'd make his level 1 turret better.
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>>171921163
I hate Genji with a passion.
>In comp defending Eichenwalde
>Gates open and our overextended Genji gets the hook ten seconds into the game
>"where was the team, you guys need to move with me"
>We were at the choke, he was right outside the fucking door
>No matter, it looks like they've got a hog, rein, and zarya so it'll be good for him to swap anyways
"Hey Genji they are going triple tank, swap to Soldier"
>"Nah dude I only play Genji"
>*Bong rip over mic*
>Proceeds to feed their Zarya and Hog the entire game, and costs us the match
I'm tired of Platinum Genjis, I just want to be free
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I keep getting tossed into quick play matches with people who are below level 10, keep asking what the stars under my name mean and can't fucking do anything.
They can't hit anything, they can't heal, gold damage is 3500, gold healing is 900, gold elims is 3 and the enemy team is all level 400+ and platinum and above.
Send help. Or kill me, at this point either one works.
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>>171925165
okay

goodbye anon.
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Reminder that you don't deserve your rank if you're not a DPS player.
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>>171925165
>enter QP
>both teams have low levels
>the ones in your team are literal newbies
>the ones on the other team a GM+ smurfs
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>mercy main gone bad
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>>171925320
>DPS is the only thing that matters in ranked
wonder how you would perform if you had no healers to keep you alive through your dumb antics or tanks to shield you/soak up the damage for you
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>>171924503
The m2 is hard to master to hit slender targets. It infuriates me
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>>171925116
Nah, imagine the level 1 turret spam that would occur. His turret is all about positioning, if you buff his level 1 turret torb could run around placing turrers everywhere
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>>171925502
Is Torb's beard 95% asbestos?
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>>171925320
>Reminder that you don't deserve anything if you're not a flex player.
fixed
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Why don't they just completely remake armor so it's not super effective against 3 characters and completely useless against everyone else?
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>>171924197
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>>171925565
Yeah, but the level 2 turret takes too long to set up for what it is. I'd either improve his basic turret or make the level 2 one faster to build so you can actually surprise people with it.
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>Genji main didn't get his instalock so he does pistol Mercy all match
>he didn't even ask the other Genji if he could switch
>check his profile
>80% of his playtime on Genji
>20% on Mercy
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>>171925161
>*Bong rip over mic*
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>in tf2 spy is anti turret
>in overwatch turret is anti spy

why?
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Runaway just pulse bombed an earthshattered baby d.va
how did they get to semifinals
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What first April event will be?
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>>171925773
What kind of answer are you expecting? If it was as you said you'd be complaining about how OW is a TF2 clone.
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>gain 77 points for a win
what the fug guys, they give extra points for win streaks?
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>>171925825
>April event
>implying
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>>171925825
they announce that they are finally reducing Sombras spread
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>>171925825
arbor day
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>>171925825
skimpy swimsuits event
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>>171926051
>blue board
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Robo dude added when?
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>>171926051
I wonder if her chronal accelerator is waterproof.
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>>171925825
Easter of course
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>>171926197
Why don't Americans celebrate Easter?
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>guy fucks around as mei in koth for 2 rounds being useless
>after getting raged at by the whole team, he switches to fucking junkrat
When will someone invent a way to murder people over the internet?
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>>171926137
i believe there's enough metal in some chars to shout at them: "hey robo dude, get your shiny metal ass in here and defend the point", and they will come
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Post DPI and in game sensitivity

800, 3.0
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>>171926593
900, 5.0
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We need at least 1 fun to play white male in this game.
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>>171926691
?
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>>171926593
2100
6.0

Seeing other people's sens makes me feel like mine is way too high and perhaps a reason why I suck.
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>>171926412
If the enemy team doesn't have a Pharah, Junkrat does really well on koth maps.
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>>171926749
Dued wtf how do u aim?
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>>171926749
>>171926691
>>171926647
how do i know my mouse dpi?
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>>171926805
small movements I guess?
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>>171926813
Depends on your type of mouse. The one I'm using (Steelseries Rival 300) has an adjustable DPI through its driver software.
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>D.vas mech is now invulnerable upon entering/casting

What do you think of that change? It's really fucking annoying getting blown out of mech the second you get into it, because of the stupid fucking cast time.

Either that or make it quicker to get in.
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please tell blizz to stop diddling Lucio
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>>171926990
If it's gone before you can fly off, your positioning is at fault.
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>>171927082

What if it's Le Ebin Damage Reduction Meme instead of invuln?
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>>171926805
So you use your wrist mainly to aim. Which generally isn't good for long periods of time. I keep my sens low for big mouse movements so I can be more accurate with big arm movements to control the mouse and then wrist rarely for corrections. Try lowering your sensitivity and see how it feels.

https://youtu.be/u0ltvnbPGwg
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>>171925670
Torb by himself is actually not bad. But a big part of his value is in his Turret, which is beyond useless at level 1. He's a strong addition to a defending team, especially if his Turret goes on a long time without dying. The problem is how long it takes up to set up another level 2 turret on the fly.

So, here's a proposal. What if throwing armor at a level 1 Turret instantly levels it up to level 2? It would make him good for mid-fights, but it's not overpowered because that's still armor that could have otherwise gone to himself or an ally.
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>>171926593
800, 5.5, 6 on windows
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>>171927189
using my arm to move the mouse feels wierd
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>>171926593
1200, 3.0
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>>171926193
it's not, shortly after this picture all the female cast was electrocuted to death
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>>171927258
You get used to it. Tape your wrist until you can do it without feeling weird.
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>>171926990
All Geoff wants is a mobile DM machine. I'm half expecting them to nerf her damage AGAIN and then buff her DM duration.
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>>171927339
Serves them right
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>>171927339
So the game is finally good then
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>>171927238
Depends on how much armor the turret would consume, tho, but i like your idea
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>It's a Mercy trots two steps behind the Rein and ignores the rest of her team who are below half health episode
>Entire team is dead on the point except her and the Rein
>Doesn't rez
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>queue up
>4 koreans throwing moonrunes at each other in chat
i swear they're all together in some sweatshop talking about whose account they're boosting and which team is gonna be the shitty koreans that throw the game.
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>>171927378
>lower sensitivity
>suddenly flick shooting people with Mei like a pro

I'm a believer now.
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>>171927575
>no Tracer

much less fun desu
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>made a personal vow to leave every single match where I get killed behind corners
>literally cannot finish a single game

wew lad
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>>171927575
Who's the most fun male hero then?
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>>171927756
>tfw shit computer
>can't play tracer without dying to a junkrat before I can even react to his bombs

I just want to go fast and piss people off ;_;
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>>171927852
Junkrat, same as always
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>>171923102
I too am a Reinhardt main, and pretty above average player overall, can play soldier, Lució, Ana, every tank very well. While it is true that a good dps packs more of a punch (the difference of a good and bad dps is abysmal) than Reinhardt, it doesn't really matter if you play dps since it means you're getting a shitty Reinhardt most of the time. There's no perfect option than can make you surely win and you are relying on your team always no matter how good you are.
That's why I've been playing a lot of Winston too. He's the most independent tank with the most carry potential. You are not relying on your team to make a move, you make the move and your team hopefully takes the chance. As long as you are distracting more than 1 person as Winston your team is essentially at a 5v3-4 advantage, while you can kill the supports in the backline.
So if you see that you just can't do anything with Reinhardt and your dps suck at tank, go Winston. Reinhardt isn't mandatory at all if you are doing your job.
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how do I get out of bronze? currently at 920 SR.
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>>171928091
first question,how?
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>>171928091
just give up bro
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>>171928091
Team up with five proper players.
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>>171928171
well I placed at 740 so I've already gained almost 200 points.

>>171928226
no
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>>171928290
>I placed at 740
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>>171928290
>placed at 740
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>>171928091
What characters do you play? Your positioning is probably really bad
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>>171928290
>I placed at 740
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I want to become good friends with Sombra and get drunk with her.
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>>171921048
>sometimes I wish I was Bronze
>at least at bronze, there's no way but up
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>>171928549
winston, mei, soldier 76, junkrat
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>>171928746
Cut the Winston. Mei and Junkrat
Drop your sensitivity by at least half
Practice your aim
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>>171928746
are you playing on a mouse and keyboard? not a trackpad/controller
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>>171928290
HOLY SHIT HOW.
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>land single grenade as junkrat
>they're one of the many offensive characters in the game with le ebin "I'm gonna fuck off immediately" abilities
>can never confirm kill
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>>171923102
>land perfect firestrike and kill both of their supports at once
>get excited and charge in like a retard expecting team to follow me
>obliterated by ults
Reinhardt is challenging for me.
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Have yet to play this Season. How is Pharah in the meta? Are the top tier picks just about the same as last season?
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>>171925825

A joke.
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>>171929754
This.
>JARAXUS IS JOINING THE BATTLE
>fake character page on overwatch website, maybe even a trailer
>jk but here's a demon Hanzo skin to compensate :^)
I can see it happening.
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Should I be worrying myself about flankers as junkrat or just keep spamming the choke? Going after the pro genji or whoever just hopped the wall almost always results in me dying and us losing the first point because the rest of the team could then waltz in freely.
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>>171926593
>Post DPI and in game sensitivity

1400dpi - 40 in game sensitivity
Last of the old school high speed quake/UT twitch gamers. Still broke into diamond with any issues. Odds are I'll break masters this season if I bother to play more comp.
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ogn semifinals eichenwalde was amazing
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>>171928290
>I placed at 740
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>>171928047
>Lució,
NOT HOW YOU WRITE IT
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>>171922846
>playing pharah with an orisa on the enemy team.
>ez ult charge
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>>171930114
I bet you also play with mouse accel.
You disgust me.
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>>171923821
>some attack junkrat shitter during our defense phase on route 66
>standing like 2 feet away from out entire team, starts to ult because LMAO I DONT TAKE DAMAGE FROM TIRE NOW AND ITS BASICALLY LIKE A MINI DVA BOMB I CAN JUST THROW OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FIGHT
>you literally hear the sound of the tire falling apart before he's even done shouting FIRE IN THE HOLE
>the revving sound triggers anyway for the no-longer-existant ghost tire
lmao
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Is Orisa literally unplayable garbage or is it appearing that way to me because of QP memes?
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>>171922585
If it makes you feel better, Anon, I'd group up with you if I had PC.
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Please someone acknowledge that I got Top 100 Pharah on Overbuff ;_;
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>>171930296
She's decent if you know how to play her
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>>171930290
The only time I've really made use of that charge is rip tiring right above or around the corner of the enemy team. Using it anywhere else is generally a waste.
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>>171930296
oh its the qp memery 100%

Im not saying shes like OP broken but she's definitley not unplayable trash level
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>>171930338
Lel no
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>>171930426
ty
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>>171930338
Call me when you're top 100 with an useful character
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>>171926593
2200 DPI and 1.66 in game sens. I wanted to avoid pixel skipping. It's probably unnecessary as I'm a shitter anyways.
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>>171930053
git gud and kill the gonjo
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Your thoughts?
So now that the defending team will have 2 shields all the time, you think we will see even more of bastion?
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hmmm
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>>171930715
or sombra?
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What the fuck is this matchmaking? This is at 3000 SR. That silver guy has been in silver for 25 hours.
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>>171930556
but justice ;_;
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>>171930296
It's probably QP memes. I thought I was terrible at zarya after only playing her in QP where it's usually genji, hanzo, widow soldier plus one healer and me as zarya and I thought I sucked. I played her in comp afterwards and carried pretty hard in my third game or so, while performing decently in the others. After 9 games I had 5 wins, 3 draws and one loss. Way better than I'd ever imagined.
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>>171930725
oh yeah and this is "mains by tier"
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>>171930725
>GM
>Mercy still that high
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>>171930556
he is
a good Pharah can shred a team and send people crying on forums about how she needs nerfing
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How difficult / luck based is it to get to Master as a Mercy main? I've just got to Diamond.
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>>171931342
Find a Pharah main to duo with. Pharah + Mercy is so fucking strong
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>>171931167
Mercy is meta. Maybe not skill meta but still play meta
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>>171930725
>Pharah more picked than genji
>tfw not a hipster pharah main anymore
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>casual qp solo player
>there's this level 1000+ 3-5 man stack playing around the clock that I have to face constantly

I don't mind losing but it pisses me off when matchmaking doesn't make an effort to balance the teams

it should make them wait until it finds another stack to play against
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>Have about 30 minutes playtime as Junkrat
>Try him out in QP after all the hubbub about him lately
>Play of the Game immediately
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>>171931583
>qp

why
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Junkrats own bombs should hurt him.

If Pharah can get hit with her own rockets, like there's no fucking excuse.
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>>171931342
You're almost entirely dependent on your team so good fucking luck. If you can quickly swap between teammates in team fights, consistently help finish enemies with your handgun, and use cover/positioning appropriately it'll be rough but you can make it to GM.

It won't be that bad if you have a mic, it was awful for me to get that high since I don't have a mic and I'm a support main/off-tank main.
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Blizzard App? u wot m8? The fuck was wrong with Battle.net?
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>>171931740
Junkrat is resistant to explosives from all the mutation shit going on in his radioactive body.

Pharah's armored suit? Pah, tinfoil.
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Just 5 minutes ago

>Ranked 2850
>Get this cancer
>Ask them to please change to some consistent dps
>Get incomprehensible Russian and London child back through mic
>Dps Ana to boot and suicide Mercy
>Over in 2 minutes

SO happy these guys are near diamond rank, the 3rd highest rank in the game. And on attack, the McCree decides to switch widow aswell, just to be extra special.

Why can't Blizz make a good ranking system?
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>>171931740
it does hurt him what are you talking about?
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>>171931941
>playing EU comp at this hour

EU comp is only viable for 1-2 hours a day, and it's not at this hour.
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>>171932019
Thought it'd be better with all the kiddies in school, guess the French and Russians just rise up to replace the masses.

We need English only/ adult servers
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>placed in at fuckin gold
>climbed my way up out of spite

IM FREE! FREE!
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>>171932149
Nah mate, seriously, it's exactly the same as plat. You get fresh lvl 30s who just finish there placements and get in Diamond

GJ tho, proud of you
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>>171932149
Kill yourself
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>>171932149
>trashmouse main
should have stayed in gold desu
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>>171930786
What, you don't like the fair balanced matchmaking Blizz has to offer?
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>>171931941
Try being Master and getting placed with a fucking plat.

>check his buddies account because if I'm with a plat then surely his partner is a GM
>his partner was a master in Season 2
>never even played during season 3

Fuck you Blizzard. Yes, we lost. Yes, they were the reason.
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>>171932149
>tfw eternally stuck in low gold since season 2
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Does anyone here know how different the competitive is on console? I know console shitters that barely try and get into diamond. Anyone know why?
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>>171932114
>We need English only/ adult servers
I'd love this, but how to moderate it? How would you ascertain that only english speaking adults could connect?
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>mfw ppl dont know orisa's counter
>they pick bastion thinking they can blast through her sheild as if her team wont help out
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You can't escape faith Adleth
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>>171931915
how the fuck does a person be resistant to explosives
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>>171932672
You start by going near small explosives so your immune system can get used to them. If you keep getting bigger you can eventually handle bigger ones.
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>>171932672
>How the fuck does someone reverse time
>How the fuck does someone get shot in the heal and then heal it by getting shot by a dart gun
>How the fuck does a character bring people back to life in 1 piece after they FUCKING EXPLODE
>How the fuck does someone SUMMON A BLACKHOLE

fuck you
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>>171932149
how did you climb with junkrat?
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>>171932572
Guess it would require actually effort from Blizz's side. Maybe banning anything but the Latin alphabet being used in names/chat. Relying on the age put in the account to connect to them.

Though it would also rely on quick reviewing on reports of people breaking the rules and Blizz actually getting of their lazy asses to do something.

Though it isn't something the Devs would do, since it'd be segregation, and the Overwatch devs are very 'inclusive' to every piece of shit on this dying rock.
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Since we are talking about seperate servers. How about microphone only servers? In order to queue you have to make noise in a microphone or something.

Maybe literally say "Start queue" into your mic
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>>171931740
Why does this happen?
Everyone gets hype that character x cannot be killed by their own explosives, then suddenly everyone rees about it when it goes out
Happened with D.Va, happened with Tracer, now with Junk. Who's next?
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>>171932930
>inb4 millions of shitters using virtual audio cable to play memes and hardstyle EDM to fool the system
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>>171932672
dva used to be killed by her own ult. she has since built an immunity to it. probably some new drug or something.
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>>171932930
Just remove group chat from the game (cause it's useless since most groups use discord/ts/mumble etc) and force everyone into party chat. And then make it viewable to the rest of the team when they have muted you, so if they play like shit and get reported, they are more likely to get banned for not being a team player
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>>171933018
Yeah I thought about that mid post. That's why I added the "say 'start queue'" part. But still I'm sure they could just virtual audio cable someone saying "start queue"
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>>171932812
I like to play a flanking junkrat vs the spamming one, pick an alternate route to get behind the enemy and pick off supports with the ol grenade satchel combo, and if you encounter anyone junk is really good at the 1v1 since all he needs is one grenade to hit before he can finish them off
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Also, following up, can we just talk about how shit the tab menu is?

We can't look at any other players statistics during the game and you can't EVEN see their ult percentages. I know they want people to communicate, but when playing with the edgiest Junk and Hanzo main every game who only speaks gibberish, you sorta need to know
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>>171933090
I want to give D.Va experimental drugs
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>>171933131
It'll have the same shortfalls as siri
>start queue
"Sorry, please try again"
>Start Queue!
"Sorry, please try again"
>START QUEUE!!!1!
"You have one attempt left before a 5 minute anti-spam lockout is initiated."
>FUCK YOU!
"Now starting queue placement"
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>>171932649

fate
>>
All I really want to do in this game is make a cinematic as fuck montage but

>no replay system
>no slow motion

Blizzard needs to take note from Valve. There's already a highlight system, why can't that just be extended to the whole game? A 10 minute highlight if you will.

Just store it locally if memory space is an issue.
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>>171933423
>spelled his name wrong too
Kill me now
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>>171933090
>the_face_of_inverted_mouth
Also, your face when on experimental drugs.
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>>171933578
You did your best
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>>171933578
its okay anon
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>>171932930
Good intention, bad idea. Not everyone with a microphone is going to communicate with it.
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>>171933979
Even then, it will cut out the people who are completely unable to communicate. I'm sure the number of people with mics that don't want to use it is far less than people without mics.
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Are there any good custom game types? Everytime I look at the custom games server its the same shit, unbalanced boss fight, 500% mode, roleplay server, etc. Am I looking at the wrong places or can the overwatch community not come up with good custom games?
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>>171934108
give it time, bruh. people are still just grabbing the low hanging fruit
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>>171921914
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>>171931941
This fucking shit. It annoys the fucking piss out of me when none of the dps are capable of getting kills because they picked inconsistent garbage heros. It's infuriating to have gold elims after 5 minutes with 1 elim... as the support.
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Why can't Winston wall climb?
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>junkrat can't damage himself anymore
>but genji reflecting his grenades somehow still hurts him
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>>171921914
People are memeing on you but there'd be literally nothing wrong with him being able to quickly butt people with the hammer's handle.
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Why am I being constantly being put with bronze and silver shitters against golds? I thought you guys said diamond was the average.
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>>171934185
how long? Also was there and ETA on the saved custom games settings?
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>>171934445
walls are not like trees
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>>171934586
How does Diamond being average have anything to do with you, you gold shitter
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>play rein in comp

>pick a team where I'm always on fire,gold damage,kills,time on objective,always potg,etc
>lose most of the time

>pick a team where I'm bronze, some time silver in medals,not at all on fire,miss my ults,etc
>win most of the time

what does it mean?
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Is Mei fit or fat?
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>>171934445
cus he's a monkey not a nigger
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>>171934672
She's thicc
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>>171934672
Fat. Maybe just a bit chubby to some, but to me fat.
And that pic is trash.
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>>171934661
It means that Rein can't win alone and needs an actual team behind them. Rein should never be gold damage/elims. That's your DPS job.

If you're getting all the golds then your DPS are lacking.
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>>171934661
it means that when people do their job and outdps the tanks, the matches are easier.
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>>171933557
>get cool potg
>want to record it
>go to menu and start recording
>load the highlight
>highlight starts playing but the models/ui haven't loaded yet
>by the time they do load you missed the part of the potg that actually looks good
>so now all I have is a recording of a weird corner of the map with sounds of bullets flying and people dying.

I should make a montage of invisible potgs
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>>171934672
fat where it matters
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>>171932019
what hour then? i've noticed very late night matches tend to take longer to find but are a little more laid back/better
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>>171934661
the first scenario is because you're playing with incompetent players,both on your said and against you.
The second one is how things should go.You should get more of these matches before you reach where your real rank should be in comp.
Also,remember to communicate via mic,it helps the second situations happen more
>>
Does new Lucio heal himself quicker than Mercy?
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>>171934746
Why is it trash? Doesnt Mei look like this
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>>171935052
who gives a fuck?As the new lucio you should get heals from health packs.
just go fast
>>
>guy sucks all game with random picks
>still carrying him with soldier though
>last round he goes attack symmetra and just afks
>after we lost I tell him to kill himself
>"why so mad bro xd?"
We need laws for people like this to be publicly executed.
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>>171933557
They are working on it. Apparently the first version will come in about six months.
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>>171935104
Mei isn't that big. But they're both trash anyway.
Real men like Orisa
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>>171934672
She certainly isn't fit lmao.
She's fat but not as much as most people seem to think.
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Hey if I start using my mic will I win more?
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>>171935285
No you'll just get mad more because people will hear you but not listen.
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>>171935285
Absolutely
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what would you rather get on your comp?
>instalock genjis
>instanlock junkrats
>instanlock widows
>instanlock osira next week
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>>171935342
widow mains are good
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>>171935285
information is one of the most important thing in war and in this game
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>>171935150
That's not my point. I was about to complain about Mercy's self-heal's speed.
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>>171935342
Orisa, maybe genji.
The rest are bad period.
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>>171935342
>osira
I bet you're American
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>>171935285
remember to ask on teamchat who has a mic and make some good prep time before the match to raise team morale
I'm not joking,using your mic can go both ways.If you're a tryharder that shits on every missed shot or scream for healing in the chat you will lose more.If you encourage other good plays and don't boss around but try to use teamwork you will win more
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>>171935342
People that instalock Widow tend to be good

People that instalock Genji/Junkrat /think/ they're good
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>>171935285
>Hey if I start communicating with my team to tell them where the enemy is flanking, when the ults are ready, coordinate the push with my genji's flank without stopping playing will I win more?

Take a wild guess
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>play 4 stack with brothers
>two stack we get matched with picks widowmaker and hanzo
every time. every single fucking time. why do these two stacks exist? what kind of people are they? what kicks do they get out of it?
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>>171935342
orisa has more utility than all of those others combined,even if no one has mastered her yet.
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>guy instant locks genji
>stops moving for a bit
>"sorry had to reconnect my ps4 controller"
>completey unprompted:
>"I'm playing the game windowed with anime on the side"
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>>171935208
I want to fit my entire arm inside Orisa's highly sensitive omnic vagina
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>>171935542
I cringed more at the controller than the anime.

Who the fuck chooses controller over mouse/keyboard?
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>>171934672
She's pretty average, but people delude themselves into thinking she's fat because all the other girls are skinny af.
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>>171935328
>>171935338
>>171935397
>>171935505
>>171935519
Thanks, follow up question though: is trying to initiate with zenyatta's ult ever a good idea? Because fairly often we'll be sitting at the choke with 6 ults and nobody does anything until I experience tranquility and prompt them to push in.
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>>171935052
Lucio just got his self healing nerfed by 33% on the PTR so I'm guessing not.
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>>171935676
*all the other girls minus Zarya and Orisa
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>>171935718
If you're solo queing,maybe
If you use your mic and have some teamwork it would be better to initiate with a rein ult once their rein shield is down or zarya.
Zen's is more fore counter ults
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>>171935718
I'm not sure what level you are at, but at Master level it's more of a defensive ult. If you hear an enemy ult going off you'll usually pop tranquility.

However, we do use tranquility in chokepoints like how you describe if we are out of time and NEED TO GO NOW.

If that's what it takes to get people at your level to push then keep it up.
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>>171926593
800, 3.35
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>Have a McCree
>Enemy team's flankers spend the entire match putting it in your ass anyways because he's pretending he's Tracer
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>faulty display port cable
>too lazy to swap between Switch and PC because only one HDMI port
>every game is a gamble whether or not my monitor is going to lose connection randomly for 10 seconds
I'm the reason you're losing rank, people.
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The problem orisa has is that she doesn't have any good way to initiate a team push. winston, zarya, reinhardt and roadhog all have abilities that signal "TIME TO GO THE FUCK IN". Orisa's ult while being good it won't really force your team to go in, it's better left for when your team is already engaging so it doesn't die immediately.

I think this is going to hurt her main tanking opportunity and why she won't start getting picked over reinhardt.
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>>171936256
just buy a new HDMI cable you double numbani,it's not that expensive
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>>171936256
>display port
liking this meme. literally DVI that costs 20 bucks more.
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>>171936312
She's not a main tank, and people have been saying as such since the instant she went up on the PTR.
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>>171936312
what about her graviton charge?Unless you're playing a map with pits you can use it to get their squish heroes to a easy spot,the DPSs get some picks and your team can push on the advantage.Worst case scenario throw a barrier in the enemy face and force push your team there to gain terrain
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>>171936312
>go in with orisa
>throw a barrier down and put your ult behind it
>just as the barrier breaks press shift and stand on top of your ult

Sure, it's not ideal, but you can draw the enemy aggro for a good few seconds with that while your team hopefully uses the damage boost to get shit done
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can you shoot Orisa's supercharger?
What are the best ult combos to go with it?
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>>171936354
I have DVI actually, but I assumed those were deprecated.
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>>171936592
>can you shoot Orisa's supercharger?
Yes.
>What are the best ult combos to go with it?
You probably don't even need those too much desu, your entire fucking team is doing +50% more damage, you just need the DPS to do their jobs
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>>171936592
Yes, if you're trying to say it's destructible, it is. I don't know the exact HP but 3 junkrat nades destroy it.

As for best ults, anything that benefited from a mercy boost or a nano boost benefits from it.
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>>171936592
the only combo I think works well w/ orisa would be 76 ult with orisa, she can put a barrier up for him while boosting his danny. seems ok but overall orisa is worse-then-sombra tier
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>>171936735
>orisa is worse-then-sombra tier
Not really.
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>>171936354
>literally DVI that costs 20 bucks more
https://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10246&cs_id=1024601&p_id=13361&seq=1&format=2
>$6.19 for a 10ft cable
nice shopping ability you have there
also displayport supports much larger resolutions/higher framerates than dvi
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>>171936312
Orisa is

S H I T
H
I
T

She gets killed instantly, her charge can be destroyed and the shield is a joke.
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>>171936809
>Sombra
>disable the enemy team's kit for the entirety of a team fight,including ultimates

>Orisa
>exactly same mercy's damage buff,even for heroes that wouldn't benefit from it, over a short AoE that is stationary and can be destroyed

They should buff it to be like Lucio's ult so it last for a while,no way to shut it down or make you stay around some specific place
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>>171936972
>short aoe
Nigga you can slap that shit down at the door to the second point at Hanamura and it will reach almost to the far end of the point itself.
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>>171936842
>an ability that lasts forever and gives to all of her teammates on a fairly generous area +50% damage shouldn't be able to be destroyed
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>>171936831
damn hell im never buying retail again. that said i still prefer 144hz to 60hz 4k.
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>play comp yesterday
>level 25 on my team is literally playing with a fucking controller
>next game
>he's on the enemy team
>demolishes us with Widow
>killcams make it obvious he's using a mouse this time
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>>171936972
>>exactly same mercy's damage buff
Mercy doesn't give +50% damage to her entire team. I also think you can stack it with Nanoboost
>short AoE
lel
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>>171934646
I'm diamond, retard. I expect to have a balanced team at my skill level instead of being put with bronze and silver shitters
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>Got placed silver on my account
>Kept winning and losing games getting nowhere, no one giving a shit on my team
>decided to use my freind's account since he dropped the game months ago
>after placements got into low diamond
>other than people dropping out of the match every now and then people seem to be capable
>climbed into master and still goin up

What the fuck is this shit?
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>>171937087
while it's temporary,check again
>>171937070
Ok,maybe I'm pushing with the distance,but unlike symmetra shield though,it's obvious as fuck where is coming from though
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>>171937261
You're lying. It's incredibly easy to carry yourself up to diamond if you belong in diamond or master. Everyone below 3000 is a drooling tard. I bought a smurf account last season when Master was full of season 2 golds who bought aimbots. I only got it to 25 at the end of season 3, threw my placements in season 4, got placed into Silver, and boosted myself to diamond with Widow only.
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>>171937338
it's an hyperbole. It lasts 15 seconds, far more than most other ults in the game.
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>>171937087
Supercharger doesn't guarantee anything, can't move and Orisa takes up a slot while she is the shittiest Tank.
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>>171937261
>>171937424
100% agree, if you're truly master you would have shit stomped silver. Even gold/plat is a joke to carry through.
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>tfw trash as Tracer and Reaper because my tracking is horrible
>good with Widow because I can flick
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>>171937261
Post doggo1.png.
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>>171937536
>Supercharger doesn't guarantee anything,
What ult does?
>can't move
You have to place it propely. Its range isn't small
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>>171937261
>pick zarya
carry that team;if you're so great
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>>171937424
>>171937537

How the fuck did you do that?
I can not keep in track every single shit that's goin on in silver matches. No matter how well i carry once i die my team just crumbles and i have to start all over again when i respawn.

When i go dps i have to make sure i can stay alive through the entirety of the match cause 90% of the time the only healer on my team just sluts over the guy in his group.

On koth is where i can win easily since the enemy team goes 1 by 1 but on shit like Hollywood or Anubis pushing alone is hard even if they are braindead

>>171937675
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>>171937607
I always had trouble with Tracer as well. It seems my tracking has a second of wind up or something. Plenty of times I miss the first 15 bullets with anything then lock on so tight nothing misses. This actually makes me fucking deadly with Sombra but Tracer would be better.
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>>171937607
you can play a flick style with reaper, it works very well
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Are you good at teamwork?
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>>171921618
I unironically think he should have a faster melee attack where he hits them with the butt of his hammer.
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>>171937607
I can track quite well with tracer and sombra,but I'm atrocious with reaper.His spaces when not shoting is the exact moment I'm with the enemy on sight.Don't even get me started on when a enemy run towards me and I lose he of view.
Oh well,he is shit right now anyway
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>>171937846
"this team is horrible"

Guilty as charged.
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>>171937846
i never join voice chat and pick off meta, therefore my teamplay is good.
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>Healercuck mains who go full me ooga, team booga when they don't get carried.
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Would Tracer be competitively viable if she could throw her pulse bomb like three times further?
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>>171937728
Im gonna come back to my silver account and check if its more bereable now. Its been a while now too.

To be honest i got my shit pushed in on diamond at first, but man it's fucking satisfying to have a team that can cooperate with eachother

>>171937675
>>
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>>171937536
Really trying for those (You)s, eh?
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>>171937803
Pick soldier if heals are worrying you

A master level soldier will easily take on a team of silvers who will not know that they need to target the soldier.

Play Tracer and they'll never even touch you. Besides, a Master level player will have health packs memorized so tracer will easily be able to heal before the silvers.
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>>171937997
half the overwatch playerbase,i.e. platinum and below, would be banned; and they can't run a business without idiots to buy lootboxes
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>>171938014
she's already extremely strong
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>>171938014
loaded question, tracer is competitively viable. she needs no changes imo.
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>>171938087
Shit yeah i need to do that. Problem i have with hitscan is that im not masters level at all. I really need to get good with that.

I've always been able to do better with Pharah, hanzo, zen etc
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>>171937261
Actually the more you play an account the more you get shit on by the system.
My friend stuggled to reach even 3000 with his account because he played since the game came out.
Made smurfs even torb smurfs and easily reached masters with every single one of them, while his main account is forever low diamond at maximum.

If you make a new one and play good from the start and you will skip the shit tiers fast.
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>>171938014
Would Ana be competitively viable if her left click heal was AoE around the target that she hits?
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>>171938103
This
If anything,people need to learn to play against her pulse bomb properly.
I'm tired of getting killed because a D.va got a bomb stuck on her,panicked and jetted her way to the rest of the team wiping us out
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>>171938270
That's what i was especting, loot boxes and retail price aside this is by far the scammiest shit i've seen in this game. For fuck sake
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>>171938273
She's literally the best healer there is, what the fuck are you talking about?

LITERALLY A ANA MAIN GOT TOP 1 IN NA LAST SEASON
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>>171938270
This makes no sense. That first account is getting queued with the same diamond players that he would have been queued with on his diamond smurf. Stop looking for excuses for being bad.

Want to know the actual reason? You get a boost after your placement matches that gives you extra points for wins.

It's not the system shitting on old accounts. It's new accounts getting dragged to higher levels than they should be. Those are the same accounts that come crashing back down to their calibration after their boost wears off.
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>>171938273
Would Reinhardt be competitively viable if earthshatter was global and had a cooldown of ten seconds?
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>>171938458
(The joke he is making is that Tracer is already competitively viable so buffing her makes no sense you fucking autist)
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>>171937803
>my teams are always braindead, but the other team isn't!
>i-if I can't solo carry it we'll lose

Your logic is whack anon, you're Dunning-Krugering it up right now.
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>those Lucio buffs

Guess overbuff will need to make S+ rank for his next chart. Really, blizz is getting more and more retarded by each patch. Hope they will buff Zarya or Rein next, to make them more "impactful" or whatever. Good riddance. I'm glad i pretty much dropped this shit.
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>>171938748
i like it because i wont be accidentally healing our widowmaker across the map any more
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>>171938392
>Be a rein main
>always catch tracer bombs on the shield with a quick spin when she flanks
>team panics anyway and runs in front of the shield to die
They should really remove the explosive indicator if it's not going to do damage to you. It's too easy to see it flashing right on top of you and run like a fucking ape even if you're safe.
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Not enough Widowmaker, post cute and funny Widowmaker.
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>>171938568
If you knew the gold and plat retards that unironically think that mercy is better than ana like i do, you wouldnt think this is a joke either.
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>>171938993
Yeah but you're on the /vg/ board where only the most elite players can be.

Sorry for calling you an autist, you autist.
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How can Orisa be fixed to make her viable at high level comp play?
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>>171935271
mei is obese

thighs that big are guaranteed to be cottage cheese thighs, hiding a paunch too.
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>>171938472
>It's new accounts getting dragged to higher levels than they should be.
That could be the reason as well (it is a joke seeing lvl25s on plat who either don't even know what is a team play or smurf gods) but the point rewards system is still a scam. I regulary get 20 something points for wins and 30 for lose. I'm not saying I'm carrying every match and I'm GM material but I win more matches than I lose and I still get fucked rank wise because the system thinks I didn't do my job the way I should have been. When I DPS I kill, When I Tank, I Tank and push, when I support I keep people alive.

The ranking system is literally rewards individual effort based on some mysterious goals and lucky win streaks.
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>>171938993
to play devils advocate, at that level Mercy is the better healer because she's more reliable than Ana due to the aim at that level significantly worse then Masters/GM
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so guys, how do we make Reinhardt viable for competitive play?
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>>171938934
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Where do I stand on King's Row defense. Hate that shit.
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>>171939089
HITSCAN
I
T
S
C
A
N

That way she can take the heavy's role of shitting on flankers and Pharahs alike.
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>>171939221
What's wrong with him?
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>dude orisa is bad you need to open your fucking eyes
>maybe you just don't play her well
SHE'S IMPOSSIBLE NOT TO PLAY WELL YOU BRAINDEAD FUCKING TARD SHE'S THE DOWNSYNDROME LOVECHILD OF EASY 76 AND STANDSTILLHARDT SHE'S JUST A BAD CHARACTER COUNTERED BY HALF THE GODDAMN ROSTER THAT TARDS ONLY PLAY BECAUSE THEY'RE OBSESSED WITH HAVING GOLD DAMAGE FROM SPRAYING SHIELDS ALL DAY
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>>171939089
How about waiting until she's usable in comp before asking retarded questions.
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Rate my shitty Torbjörn idea:

Turret target selection.

E while forge hammer is selected: Armor pack
E while rivet gun is selected: Turret target priority

You know how you can select players to give discord orbs as Zenyatta? That red targetting reticule appears on them?
Yeah, Torbjorn could get exactly that on enemy players within vision and range of his turret to choose targets.

Rate.
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>>171938993
Mercy wins matches even on low diamond. People never focus her down, she just jumps on the dick of a Dva or Roadhog and has her ult up in seconds while those tanks never die (because they don'tget focused either). Rez is actually a death sentence for the enemy team most of the time and now she can't die more than ever.
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>>171939392
wont work on console so this is no go.
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>>171939063
I would jokinly call you funny, but you would actually believe me. Seeing how desperately you're trying to be funny, repeating your own jokes over and over, copying ither people in this board also trying so hard to be funny.

Have a good day, buddy, one day you'll be a real comedian
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>>171939279
This.
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>>171939441
>wont work on console
Why?
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>>171938934
>>171939224
Why do people like Widowmaker? There are better-looking girls in OW, she's not a meta pick, her backstory isn't that great (she killed her husband and headshot an omnigger, that's pretty much it) and she isn't even the best blue ass in the game (that goes to Symmetra).
I just don't understand.
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Is Soldier or McCree better right now?
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>>171939353
When WIDOWMAKER counters a tank, you know for sure that character is shit.
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>>171939583
soldier
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>>171939471
I would call you edgy, but you would probably take compliment to that.

That was a terrible come back for a post where I was apologizing to you and sarcastically dismissing my first post to you where I called you out.

You fucking autist.
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>>171939562
cowadooty sniperbabbies trying to justify their shitty main probably
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>>171939583
McCree is better for walking with the tank and deleting flankers, soldier is better for fighting the other team head-on.
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What is the point of the lucio changes? Is it a buff or a nerf?
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>>171937536
Play her better
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>>171939562
Because she's a very high-skill hero, and anything that takes a very high-skill to play atracts attention.
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>>171939583
This isn't really the true answer, because they play different roles. But just for entertainment, let's say we put a high level soldier vs an equally high level McCree in a 1v1. I'd say that the McCree would win from dinks (assuming he can get the kill before soldier heals).

At levels where a McCree can't consitently headshot, though, I'd say the soldier wins every time just from heals.
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>>171939562
Mercy might be better looking but she is mainly a support hero. I want to kill stuff and the pistol just doesn't cut it.
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>>171939709
Almost there, little buddy! Now just try to be a little more original! BUT DON'T TRY TOO HARD! Remember: One step at a time!
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>>171921163
can I remove 5?
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>>171939954
Here's your (You), pal. Hope your day is brighter now that you have proven to yourself that you can't even hold a proper conversation on 4chan. Especially with someone who apologized to you.

cya nerd this is your last (You)
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>>171939562
only character in the game that rewards personal skill instead of metafaggotry. That is if you can git gud.
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>>171940225
>Players beneath gold actually think this
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>>171940171
>>171939954
>>171939709
>>171939471
Are you folks going to fuck or what?
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>>171939562
>Why do people like Widowmaker
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>>171921047
Right? I feel like that character has so much utility and potential, they just don't care
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>play on Hanamura in Mystery Heroes
>roll Lucio
>doing well, team is holding the point down while I heal
>enemy Zen ults and the entire enemy team rapes us, I'm the only one left on the point trying to get away from 5 other people
>my team assumed we were gonna lose the point anyway so they just waited at point B
>Defeat

Every fucking time I play on Hanamura, without fail.
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>>171940431
>Complaining about incompetency in Mystery Heroes
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>>171921047
I kinda like the idea I saw where she'd get a special "backstab" animation on her quick melee that does like 80 damage but obviously only works from behind.
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>>171940285
Sorry you can't aim, bud
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>>171940305
Her penis is too small.
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Another day ruined by Widowmaker.
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>>171939594
So all the tanks are shit since Widow can headshot all of them.
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>>171940171
wow wtf guys stop fighting nya
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>>171921047
good idea, let's balance around "people" that cant play
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>>171940791
But,they actually do this...
see, difference patches for console players.
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reinhardt's hammer pushback should be increased
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>>171940941
>reinhardt should be buffed in any way
wew
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>>171939392
My idea for torb change was to allow him to pick from 3 different turrets

regular turret

Air turret that hovers in place and fires a slower more powerful gun

flamethrower turret, extra hp and does more DPS but lower range

rate
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>>171940941
Rein's bugs should be fixed. Charge bugs, hammer bugs and his ult is inconsistent af.

>Playing Mercy
>Rein charges the Hog in front of me
>Send him fly away
>Pins me
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>>171940870
If they buff sombra's numbers enough that shitters can play her she is going to be approaching pre-nerf ana levels of broken. If blizzard wants everyone to be able to play her they are going to have to completely rework her.
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>>171941140
>reworking sombra
fucking no,her kit is fine.
I swear to god,we can't have a single hero that needs teamwork to be efficient that people think they are under powered.
Not every dps need to be bastion's minigun level of damage,her job is to diffuse critical enemies so the rest of the team can push
No buff,nerf or fix can force bronze shitters to communicate and have synergy though
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>>171941140
Pretty much. When Kaplan was asked about Sombra buffs he said he'd seen what an OP Sombra was like and everyone should want to avoid that or something like that
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I honestly think this game would be better without mercy, lucio, and reinhardt
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>>171940974
>pushback increase
>buff

that'd just make people fly away from his swings
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>>171941140
She doesn't need a fucking reworking or anything done to her damage, she's not supposed to be Reaper or Soldier, she hacks shit and EMPs the enemy. I've seen a shitload of good Sombra players on the PTR and with her new changes live we'll start seeing more there, too.

Instead of whining about a character not being exactly like another one try playing them how they're supposed to be played.
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>>171941140
>If blizzard wants everyone to be able to play her

there is literally nothing wrong with a hero having a high skill floor not everyone can play, as well as requiring team communication
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>>171941405
>she hacks shit and EMPs the enemy

Yes we all know this, its fucking boring though.
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>>171941331
Yea see all those pro sombras in tournaments, so OP
... oh wait
It's ridiculous that anyone takes Kaplan seriously at all seeing as how inept they are at balancing this game.
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>>171941328
>>171941405
yes, i want them to leave her more or less alone and it would be nice if shitters would stop proposing buffs because they lost a bunch of games in gold
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>>171941475
THEN DON'T FUCKING USE HER IF HER PLAYSTYLE BORES YOU, IS THAT SO DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND?
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>>171941514
He was talking about balance changes during her development you dunce
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>>171941685
I dont, im just saying she should be reworked so shes actually f u n
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Reminder that having gold elims or gold damage but not both means you're not actually contributing that much.
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>>171941720
if blizzard is going to begin reworking shit people don't find fun then she isn't even close to the front of the line
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>>171941720
>if I don't find her fun then nobody else does, I am the world I am Legion
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>>171941514
>>171941331
>>171941140
It's absolutely ridiculous that this is even an argument. A handful of people even play her in top 500 and even they would do better if they picked any other hero.
But yeah, let's just wait for an "OP Sombra player" to show up and show us the true potential of Sombra! Because apparently Jeff has seen one and based the whole balance around that mystery player. Yea right.
Worst excuse for piss poor balance I have ever heard and it's sad to see all these people here slurping up the Blizzard cum.
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>>171941837
most people think shes trash, and shes not played at a high level at all, what are you basing your claims on again?
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>>171920934
>Reaper can now gain overheal from souls if he has more that 200hp at the moment I he collects it.

>Health decays at 12hp/s, but caps at 600

Reaper viable now?
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>>171941892
>>171941869
Tell us how she should play, them. Outline your ideas of her reworking.

Hard Mode: She has to remain a hacker.
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>>171941869
I don't think she needs a ton of work to be viable, but in general I agree that if you can do well with sombra you can do significantly better with other heros. She's just clunky and mediocre. I hate this bullshit meme going around that she's secretly OP yet somehow NOBODY has unlocked the potential.
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>>171941810
>not enjoying the free wins while also getting the free Kaplancoins from placement
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>>171941920
fuck no, his damage is still shit. wheres he gonna get the souls if he cant kill anything?
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>>171941920
Honestly bringing back his smoke grenade concept *could* give him the lift he needs.

Either that or...you know...giving him damage
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>>171941920
>press q
>get a teamwipe AND become a tank
>I'm become death,destroyer of worlds
Fun idea,but seem quite unbalaced. What reaper needs now is surviviability through movement,not health
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How to fix sombra:
Invis lasts an extra 10 seconds
she can attack/hack/emp instantly out of invis (removing that completely bullshit delay)
She can cancel her transporter before the timer runs out. Alternatively if her timer runs out the cooldown should instantly reset and no 4 second BS.

there fixed.
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>>171942036
i climbed to masters solo queue, had a rough patch with personal matters and my heart wasn't in it so i dropped 200. now i'm getting stuck with the same teammates four games in a row that intentionally throw games. or i am on the worst team every time. i'm not amazing or anything, but i feel like the game is stacked against me at this point
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>>171941869
Sombra is in a better position than literally every defense heroes. Even if she somehow requires devs attention, she is not a priority at all.
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>our team is 3791
>their team is 3870~
>we have 6 solo q and they have 3 solo + a 3man
>they can't do shit on offense, we completely stomp them
>the enemy team leaves one by one until they are all gone
>only gain 2 points for this
????????????
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>>171942215
great now she's just fucking annoying
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>>171942215
how to fix sombra
invis is movement based and lasts forever
her smg change to pistol that can oneshot headshot from stealth
also has a knife that steals the appearance of enemy player and makes you look friendly to enemy team
her ult is like omnislash and instakills entire team
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>>171942332
That's basically what she's supposed to be
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>>171942332
Just like Tracer and Genji.
Right now she's a fucking useless meme.
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>>171942280
>i'm getting stuck with the same teammates four games in a row that intentionally throw games
>Not dodging
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>>171934672
She stores her fat in her mammary glands and glutes because she's one of those lucky women that deposits their weight in the correct and most sexually attractive areas.

Another way of saying this is that she's curvy, or has an hourglass shape.
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>>171942410
i waited ten minutes between the games and still got stuck with mistermeme
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>>171942471
no shes fat, look at her face
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>>171942410
This is why you wait after bad games
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>>171942390
You being shit at using her doesn't mean everyone else is.
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>>171942501
In this case you got fucked.
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>>171942592
Except everyone is shit at her, because she sucks.
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>>171942592
she only works if you build the team around her and have comms with your entire team
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Gentlemen,the real question here is:
Should you focus hacking the healthpacks near your team or near the enemy team?
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>>171942471
mei is obese
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>>171942592
its so weird that sombra is the least played hero in grandmaster, they just must not be good enough to play her right
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>>171942764
You should focus on playing a useful hero.
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>Didn't play for a week
>come back and decide to get the arcade boxes, takes just a couple of hours, it can be fun
>in 2 days i only racked up 6 wins total

What the fuck is happening. I have never gone through such a horrid streak in any game ever, but these last 2 days I've been putting up with more bullshit games and situations than the rest of my time in Overwatch combined.

Did i just get incredibly worse for not playing for a week? Or is it bad luck that i keep getting placed with idiots?

Fucking hell.
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>>171942064
His damage is fine. 140 from a single point blank is a lot. It's a matter of him having to expose himself to get that close to get it, of armor pushing it down to 70 a shot, and how roadhog does his job better while having a fuckton of health and command healing.

Reaper needs:

>Cancelable wraith form, but Cooldown starts instantly when activated, making it 11 seconds from activation.
>Heals 8.3HP/s while in this form
Now he can close the gap without being predictable and has an option when it a close range fight beside flee

>Shadow step reduced from 2.5 seconds to 1.8 seconds, heals 11HP/s during animation
Now it can be used more readily in a fight and isn't as taxing to use for repositioning

>hellfire shotgun does double damage to shields
A fair tradeoff seeing how much he has to expose himself to attack shields.
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>>171943094
play 1vs1 if you're so great
or elimination if you want to get them faster
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>>171939089
Remove her from the game

t. Reinhardt main who is insecure about being obsolete
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>>171943232
>implying
The turtle tank meta is real my friend.If anything,you should be worried about the new lucio buffs
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>>171942764
As someone who mains Sombra, I find it best to hack health packs in the middle area.

If you're pushing a payload, think of the area behind it as blue, the next 30 meters as gray, and everything behind that as red. Don't bother with health packs in the red, just the ones in the active, or soon the be active, fight zone. Some exceptions can be made for the blue zone.

But in general you never want teammates having fun back a bit for a healhpack.So the goal is not to make your teammates run far while still denying the enemy a few health packs. Big packs are always the priority

There are exceptions of course, not all all health packs are placed evenly, but you can eventually figure that out.
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>supports are actively being fucked by SR loss/gain since the last patch

Even less reason for them to play ROFL
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>>171942868
Yes and that makes her perfect
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>>171943447
I know I saw a dev say they were investigating it happening to Mercy but is it happening to other supports?
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>Lucio is now go fast Mercy

For what purpose.
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>>171943546
Any that isn't actively getting elims yes.
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Mei is not obese. She's the perfect woman.
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>>171943447
>shitters can't get carried out of gold anymore
good
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>>171943574
mercy was such a fun design they though they would reuse it
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>>171943440
>As someone who mains Sombra
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>171943123
He just needs a way to close in targets. Shadow step shouldn't able to be used to escape situations, but if you could use it to teleport closer to the enemy (quieter and probably without the obvious black smoke), that would already be a massive buff.
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Mercy Q needs cast time.
Mercy Q needs further range to compensate.
Mercy heal and damage beams should happen simultaneously.
Mercy dash should be independent of people souls.
Mercy dash should have longer cooldown to compensate.
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>>171943094
is the fucking brawl playlist back yet or is that gone forever cause of server browser

haven't been home all week to play and see, haven't even gotten to download orisa yet
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>>171943646
>remove rein
>remove mercy
>remove lucio
holy fuck the game is fixed
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>pick a healer
>my teammates ask for healing when they are low hp

wtf fucking shitters
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>>171943628
Thanks for that image
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>Sombra can be devastating in the right hands
why do they keep pushing this meme
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>>171943815
are you fucking stupid? holy shit of all the generals, this one probably has the worst patch suggestions
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>>171943839

Rein needs a fucking nerf and has needed one since launch. The entire game revolves around rectangles and it fucking sucks.
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>>171943937
Remove the rectangle and Rein just becomes a walking coffin
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>>171943449
waist/arms/thighs too tiny, she's not proportioned like that, if you actually liked obese mei you'd realize she's nice and fatty everywhere just like in-game.
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>>171943937
The biggest Rein nerf would be a new map.
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>>171943886
Who are you idiot even quoting? Who are "they"? Take off the fucking tinfoil hat.
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>>171943815
>Mercy heal and damage beams should happen simultaneously
Yes,let's pick one of the most braindead heroes on the game and notch the skill floor a tier lower
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>>171943886
Just because you're a shitter doesn't mean she's bad.
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Took a break from comp. Life has never been so good. I got all the gold guns I wanted. No longer a meta Slave. Can play any hero, not worry about shitty servers, griefers and throwers, 5v6 matches. Join me /owg/
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>>171943931

Mercy is only good for flying in from hiding, pressing Q to insta rez, and then immediately dying. She's just a worthless heal station or Pharah accessory until it's time to Martyr Q.
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>>171943997

>Who are "they"?

read the patch notes dummy
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>>171942507
round face =/= fat, she doesn't have a double chin and you can still see where her neck ends and her head begins.
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>>171943997
>Who are you idiot even quoting? Who are "they"?
The patch notes from the game, you retarded sack of shit.
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>>171943980
Not every person gains fat in the same places. I only get a big butt
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>>171943994
That's bullshit,because blizzard can't make a map where you can do 10 steps without a choke, but I believe it
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>>171943937
how about just a new kit? barriers are the faggiest fucking things in the game and their mere existance slows the game to a crawl.
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>>171944025
Even if that is true, "she can be sort of useful if you're a god at her" isn't good balance.
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>>171944079
>>171944053
kek nice try, won't fall for that bait. you didn't answer who (you) were quoting. nice smartphone and landline samefagging btw, kys
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>>171943978
>>171944128

How about curbing the 40 meter long hard stun Q he has that's a guaranteed teamwipe?
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>>171944025
>ha, if u think she's BAD watch muh CODEY
>watch codey switch off to soldier after being utterly ineffective
>watch codey die after going in 1v6 to fagando i'm useless with no follow up
>watch codey miss ult on half the team because they were around a corner/zarya bubbled
>all everyone is referencing is a highlight reel of thousands of sombra games where she did "ok" and would have done better had codey picked a real hero
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>>171944140

This is why Winston is bad imo. Needing two pockets and Zarya bubble support to be effective is fucking terrible.
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>>171944204
are you joking? rein's ult isn't even that bad, not to mention the horizontal range for it is pretty bad
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My PTR is updating. Is it anything interesting?
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>>171944035
how do your changes fix any of this?
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>>171944220
>fagando i'm useless
8/10 gave me a hearty kek
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If I rawdog with Sombra, do you think she can hack my seed to not impregnate her?
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>>171943205
I don't think I'm great. I'm just flabbergasted at the performance dip, despite not feeling like I'm playing any different from before.
I don't really care for duel or elim, but my fear isn't about arcade but rather if this will happen in comp too.
Seriously, 3 games today i had to deal with "die once, enemy team wins" situations. It's just abnormal.
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>>171944035
>Q to insta rez, and then immediately dying.
they buffed her so she gets invuln after rezing

which is fucking horse shit as I've been cucked out of my ult 3 times because of that. just make her non retarded instead of making her a q class
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>>171944097
>people draw mei with a big ass
>but her thighs/legs/arms/waist are tiny
>despite having huge chunky thighs in-game
>chubby fingers coming out of her chinese skin sleeves
>fat waist evident and only time she had a skinny waste was a bug where her LEG WAS NOT EVEN ATTACHED
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>>171944204
instant area stun is fucking cancer and should never be added to a first person shooter, but I think barriers just make the game insufferable. Nobody likes playing a fucking wall and nobody likes playing against a wall.
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how many koth capture zones does lucio's new heal radius affect?

Well's definitely out of the picture but I think most of the others are fine
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>>171944271

Rein Q is so utterly broken that it necessitates having a rein to protect your team from losing the game because it's a massive range hard stun.

That's fucking terrible. Not to mention when it gets fucky and crawls up walls, around corners, up in the air, etc.
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>>171943628
mei is at least 200 lbs, she doesn't look like that
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>>171944507
instant area stun as an ult is more or less fine because ults are supposed to be retarded in this game

just flat out remove mei from the game, or heavily rework the freezing mechanic
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>>171944220
>Faglando I'm useless
I've seen this used before, I'm guessing this is the new accepted term for her ult??
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>>171944401
>people draw characters they admire they way they want them to look like
wew, big news here. but senpai consider that only the face needs to be correct and the body somewhat canon. your personal headcanon i.e. autism can make anything real!
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>>171944401
I mean you could look at her early concept where she's wearing the same gear but I'd noticeably thinner to see they wanted a girl that was bigger than the others
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>>171944557
it getting people around walls and in the air is bullshit yea

>>171944570
we literally know what she looks like under her coat and in fact she's even skinnier than that
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>>171944140
She's balanced though, maybe even a little bit too powerful with this last buff. It's not a matter of being a "god" at her, you only have to play her correctly.
Sombra's case is pretty much the same as Winston's, they're great as they are but too many people want them overpowered just because they don't do heavy damage.
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>>171944507

We desperately need a hero who just shits on barriers no questions asked. Sombrero needs to hack through barriers, reaper could shoot through them, Junkrat could have a damage multiplier on shields or something, etc.
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Blizz really need to address the issue that there is no ranking free place to practice comp. Quick play doesn't work because you end up with a meme team. They should keep the ranking free competitive
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>muh concept image

meifags will never let it go
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>>171944557
This is another case of loving having a Rein on your team, but hating having a Rein on their team
Just adapt to the gamestate
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>>171938562
I would genuinely want to see this.
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>>171944645
Winston's garbage unless you've got 2-3 people memeing with you.

The bubble change will make him slightly better though.
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>>171921998
Are you kidding me? They cut his AOE by NINETY PERCENT. They gutted his primary mechanic. You better fucking believe they'll give him substantial boosts to all his peripherals to make him not shit,
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>>171944663
who are you even quoting, moron?
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>>171944617
>>171944632
>early concept art is supposed to be canon
she has fat hands, are you trying to say she has skinny arms/waist, and that she really has a big ass and skinny legs and it's just padding in her pants that gets progressively thicker as they go downward?

talk about mental gymnastics. she's obese. get over it.
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>kill all of their team
>the mercy you killed first just waltz back in from base and resses all of them
WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?
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>>171944661
>They should keep the ranking free competitive
Just play off season ;)

>>171944663
There's also the summer spray, or does that not count either for [made up reason]
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>>171944645

Winston is bad for most people most of the time because of the amount of support he needs to be effective. Rein is good in any tier, and so is Zarya, Orisa to a lesser extent, etc.
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>>171944661
Nobody takes ranking free competitive seriously, it's just another quick play.
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>>171943094
I play 3v3 for loot boxes and I find better teammates there than in QP.
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how do I git gud with Orisa's 'halt' ability?
I see the lines on it but it has such a short reach I can never get anyone off ledges.
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>>171944612
>filename
STOP THIS MEME TARCER ISN'T GAY
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>>171944763
>"early"
They show the early concept art, and then they show the final art with her in and out of the suit.

>talk about mental gymnastics.
Speaking of gymnastics, she's still skinny in her spray from last summer
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>in a game with literal 2 stack of 12 year olds
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>>171944767
There's also the table tennis player icon
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>>171944841
>TARCER
Who again?
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>>171944765

>Be Zenyatta
>My heal sucks ass
>My damage sucks ass unless I discord my targets
>I can't discord through shields
>The game revolves around shields
>Ana still does more damage than me
>Ana can toss a grenade to invalidate my ultimate
>brb kms
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SPEEEEEEED BOOOST
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I miss Christmas Kings Row
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>>171944881
>literally ignoring fat face, sausage fingers, and size of her in-game thighs and arms
>sprays are canon
reinhardt actually looks like this guys
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>>171944656
Reaper upgrade, AP rounds.
shoots all the way through barriers, including defense matrix and bubbles (zarya still gets charge). double damage to barriers. replace shadow step with something that isnt shit maybe a single blast low-damage area attack as a finisher or whatever. make his shotguns have a longer effective range than pissing with a 1 inch dick, reduce the spread a bit and its good; I like the shotguns to feel like I'm shooting at the enemy not throwing handfuls of sand at them.

reaper fixed, rein isnt a force pick anymore.
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>>171944841
cavelrys here and also I like women
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>>171945030
>Spray literally called "chibi"
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>there are metaslaves who want Sombra's damage buffed
>when her teleport is now 4 seconds
That would be incredibly obnoxious to fight against.
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Ladies, please, can we all agree that Mei, regardless of whether she is fat, or skinny, she's 110% a shit girl and her playstyle is awful game design?
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>>171945096
agreed
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>>171945075
fat armed fat face fat fingered mei stuffing her face with a popsicle because she's well on her way to diabetes
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>>171945060

If reaper shot through shields or did double damage to them that would be enough. Shadow step needs to operate quicker and fart form should go faster. Everything else is fine.
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>>171944841
What's a tarcer?
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Anyone did the math for Orisa damage output and how does she fair against other character in a
1v1 DPS race?At least against rein.
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I think im literally the last person on this planet to notice that picture
someone please make me feel better and say that you didn't know about this
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>>171945096
Nah, she's the cutest girl.
She can be a bit annoying at most, but if she walls you off and kills you it's usually your own fault.
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what crosshair do you guys use on tracer?
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So we all know that jr's tire sends people flying but apparently the momentum stacks with Mei's ice wall and I snagged this little gem.

>>171944765
You could, like, I dunno man, kill the Mercy, because, like, she's kind of slow. I mean, look at those hips. She has to, like, waddle without a strong man.
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>>171945016
The blue glow on the final point was nice. I can't stand the red.
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>>171945096
there's no argument, sprayed are proof. there's 1 spray of a slightly skinny still obese upper body mei, which would mean she has no ass unlike people are posting in their fanart.

meanwhile there's 5 obese mei sprays, and they've accepted that sprays are canonical proof, so it's their own argument. 5 to 1 mei is fat.
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>>171945236

A Rein will get shit on if he chimps out and starts swinging his hammer at her because she can blanda up.
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>>171945269
about what
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>>171945236
anyone who does headshots autowins against anyone who doesnt, pretty much a hard rule
she shreds tanks as fast as roadhog with good aim
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>>171945360
dot
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>>171945390
you either don't know what obese means, or you're just a spiteful sub-plat shitter who gets himself walled all the time.
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>Ana no longer cocks her rifle after throwing a grenade
i honestly read this as "cucks" at first
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>>171945396
the pic on the desk of volskaya boop'ing her daughter on the nose
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>>171945412
>anyone who does headshots autowins against anyone who doesnt

headshots were a mistake imo
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>>171945360
small crosshair for everyone.I prefer it to judge distance and better to compensate for eye-to-mouse reaction.If anything,blizzard needs to give a static small crosshair though
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>>171945390
There's no use in debating the characteristics of a shit girl. Fat is better because that makes her even more unlikable.
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>>171945360
Green short crosshairs
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>>171944705
>>171944772
The only thing I need when I play Winston is having a support player that heals me when I get back from the enemy's backline. That's a given for every hero that doesn't heal itself.
If you don't know how to play a hero that doesn't mean they're trash.
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>>171945538
haha, that's epic, epic for the win!
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>>171945595
>that heals me when I get back from the enemy's backline
that's "if"
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>>171945560
That is true, especially when they are so easy to do.
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It's impossible to reliably carry in this game. You can not prove me wrong.
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>>171944661
Unranked mode would be perfect, but you'd also need to have some reason for people to actually play it. So could comp points be received there too? Then people could farm their golden guns stress free. (This would also pose a problem, however, because some people might intentionally tank their rank, to be able to stomp people in unranked, where their rank would never rise again, despite winning.)
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>>171945692
>it's impossible to reliably carry in a teamshooter
no shit
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>>171945692
You are correct. It might be possible with zenyatta if you know how to hit your shots and you call out your discords.
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>>171945715
Giving an incentive for people to play competitive and not care about their rank in competitive is one of the stupidest ideas blizzard has ever had.
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>>171945538
What, does she have sex with other rifles behind the scenes?
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>>171944507
>Nobody likes playing a fucking wall

speak for yourself, my friend
ich bin dein Schild
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>>171924178
>clearly underpowered heroes
You mean lucio after the nerf?

Going fast and poking at people with your bubble gun might be fun, but it's gonna do jack shit to change the momentum of the game. He's basically an entertaining, useless pick now.
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>>171942872
>>171942647
I've played with and against a lot of Sombras who know what to do and how to do it. Sounds like you suck and get teamed up with shitters.

>>171942712
>characters in a team-based game work best when working with the team

YOU DON'T SAY
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>>171945526
haha ya, selective obesity man, haha it's real, guess mei sent a few pounds just to her fingers and she has skinny arms guys haha
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>>171945692
It's possible with a big enough skill gap between the carryer and the rest of his team, but in a game where everyone is comparable no. It's why plat and diamond are such saltfests, especially with supports.
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>>171945658
Knowing when to back out is vital for any Winston player. Now that I think about it, it's important for Sombra too. Maybe that's why shitters want them OP, they just want to turn off their brains and keep pressing LMB until there's no red team anymore.
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>>171945560
i like the idea i just think that 2x damage is too much, and if its gonna stay that way then armor needs to eventually be changed to mitigate critical damage instead of arbitrarily fucking over high rof weapons
like they do that then the things its meant to mitigate like tracer and shotguns it still does perfectly due to their reliance on crit damage but characters like winston are no longer terribly fucked over by the current formula
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>>171945917
why dont grandmaster players play sombra at all?
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>>171945870
what about the part where he heal as fast as mercy in an aoe, while also being passively unkillable due to 18hp/s and crazy mobility
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>in a 3 stack
>one of my other friends wants to queue
>can't because 4 stack is the worst thing in the game
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Important blue post about low gravity in custom games.
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NANI!?
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>guy points out your rank and complains in QP about your choice of pick
>remind him he hasn't even finished his placements so he's in no place to question my rank
>rest of the team somehow think it's me bringing rank into the question and im the one that gets flamed

every time
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>>171946046
Who cares. You're not grandmaster, it's got nothing to do with you.
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>>171946181
increase team size when

glad to see that they put out saving custom games because it was super retarded to not have that from the get go
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>>171945580
>>171945592
I find crosshairs better for tracking and dots for shit like pharah and cree, not sure why
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>Play game of comp
>Win
>Go play a game in QP and lose to balance the forced 50
>go back to comp
>win

hack the planet
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>>171946221
What? The argument is if sombra is good or not, if the best players in the game arent playing her then she isnt good.
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>>171945934
Are you fingers look like picrelated? Her fingers look fine, especially first person
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>>171946046
Grandmasters don't play as most of the characters because they don't fit the latest meta, what's your fucking point?
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>>171946212
>Lucio being Leon

Bullshit. I'm sure Lucio atleast has some game.
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>>171945847
Perhaps, and it's difficult to undo the idea of golden guns too.

But in general I like the idea of slowly progressing towards some meaningful rewards. Currently you only get new "portraits", which is somewhat dull.
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>>171946413
these sad burger excuses. mei is objectively very overweight for her size. she is not healthy. she does not have a small waist.
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>>171946432
Who the fuck is Leon?
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So how do you feel about the lucio changes? I thought it was a pretty big nerf at first but seeing the speed changes and the increased healing it doesn't seem that awful
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look at this sexism i have to deal with every game
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>>171946710
what the fuck? does tracer have an erection?
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>>171946710
Are you memeing me or just posting that without having no idea what's a reference to?
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>>171946432
>Leon
?
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>>171946728
It is a step in the right direction
His initial concept of long range aura healer was pretty faulty.
His healing could only be OP(as it was on release), or really weak (as it now )
I still think his aura should be 2-3 meters bigger.maybe on cost of healing numbers, Just a QoL change, to make supporting more comfortable
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which character is the most likely to be sexually attracted to black people?
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>>171946828
No idea at all, I thought it was some generic anime themed picture.
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Why does picking Orisa make the entire team act retarded?
No one ever heals her and says shit like "Just use fortify", no one uses the shield, no one follows up on the supercharger, no one does anything.
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>>171947059
reinhardt
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>>171947064
Check out >>/drg/
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>>171946181
>Important blue post about low gravity in custom games.
Widowmaker instagib only servers with capture the flag incoming.
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>>171947059
youre mom haha
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>>171947059
Lucio
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>"competitive" esport videogame when there's obvious dev favoritism going into balance decisions

nice meme blizzard
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>>171947170
>You'll never play orange_3 low gravity *3 damage in overwatch
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>>171947162
I fucking new it was danganronpa's art style.
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>>171947162
Alright then
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>>171947059
Orisa
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any good "guide" videos on tracer similar to valkia's pharah? I feel like i have no idea what i'm doing
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>>171945865
>"Are you ready!? Here I come!"
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>>171947321
tracer and dva's eyes gave it away
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>>171947408
>watching videos instead of playing the game
generation Z in a nutshell
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>>171947270
stop complaining or we will "nerf" hog again
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>>171947436
Yeah that's what made me think it looked familiar. Tracer's face in the first image is this
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>>171947270
Nobody takes the "competitive" aspect seriously. Just ignore it.
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>>171947059
Your waifu
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>>171946747
Goldenpants is a legitimate douchebag I've played with him before
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>>171947491
>unironically being retarded
you can always learn new flanking routes/useful tips even with good mechanical skill
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>>171947601
then why is half of this thread shitposting over rank and showboating if you're higher rank than someone
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>>171947665
why are you responding to literal plat retards
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>>171947491
don't bother with guides, just watch someone better than you play the character, preferably a pro player. try and deduce why they do certain things and try to replicate those actions.

>>171947408
it's impossible to get better without practice but i think it's important to watch pro player gameplay every now and then, it helps you deduce what you're doing wrong. whenever i watch a pro player play genji, i try to imagine i'm them, and then at any given moment i try to consider what i would do, and then compare that with what they do.
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>>171937189
every fucking day on my smurf, I slack on junkrat while watchin series on 2nd screen, team flames me and calls me bad, despite outpreforming them with my BONG LYFE.

Face them next game, pick a serious hero, put sound on, run in circles and 1v6 these poor fucks while they cry and ragequit!

EVERY
FUCKING
TIME
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if this is esports where are the tournaments? i want to see how this game is played at the highest level
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>>171947748
that's obvious but i'd prefer to play the game instead of watching mendo/whomever for hours
said valkia did a pretty good job condensing his points in 10 minute long videos
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>>171947895
http://www.gosugamers.net/overwatch/vods
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>>171945801
>its impossible to carry in a MOBA
ftfy
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>>171947962
thanks
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>>171947895
Type "overwatch tournaments" into google
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"Sombra pls switch to a DPS >:("
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>>171947895
>this is esports
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>>171947962
oh wow clicked on the first live game and sideshow is casting and all the players are ex-tf2 players haha
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>>171943365
I don't understand any of this meta stuff
It just seems like nigbot does my job, but better
I feel worthless now
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>>171947895
There's been no esports worth watching, it's a shit spectator sport
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>match starts
>duo on my team
>one of them instalocks Mercy

Oh god, no.
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>>171948060
where'd you get that stat bar?
also nice sombro
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>>171948254
>team you're spectating is red
>enemy team is blue
how do people even fucking watch this
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>>171947898
suit yourself
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>Route 66 Competitive
>pick Genjew
>Healers (mainly Zen) are immediately skeptical
>Rein believes in me; thinks I may be a Genji God
>Not really, but he's my best hero
>Absolutely dominating the enemy team, killing flankers on Zen's dick and raping Ana
>The cart has not moved an inch
>10 seconds left
>Decide I've had my Ult for too long
>Get a triple
>Fuck up my reflect because the Ultimate ended
>Soldier tries to bail me out
>We die
>Zen starts shit talking us, the DPS, for pushing
>We move back and stop them before they can even pass the Welcome sign
>Steamroll on Attack
>Still get bullied for being Genji

When will this meme stop? Just like me assasinate people as a green cyborg Ninja dude.
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>>171946710
Genji is the suspect everyone latches on to, but it turns out Hanzo actually killed himself on accident with a scatter arrow while trying to murder someone else.
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>>171948394
usually genji players think they're hot shit but they cant aim and generally just suck in every single way, especially sub-diamond.
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Can roadhog carry alone?
Cus i've got golds 75% of the games and a little under or a little over 60% hook acc and i still lose more games than i win.(i mean the win rate is 55% but i'm dropping in SR)
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>>171921541
Only two of those six are valid reasons to switch.
Genji dumpsters Reinhardt and D. Va. Soldier is a toss up. Lucio isn't much of a challenge unless you're playing against DSPStanky-lite.
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>>171948361
>tfw you can never play on the red team

In R6 Siege you can at least be either orange or blue randomly.
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>>171948608
Nobody can carry alone.
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>>171948394
Are you in gold/plat/diamond? Most Genji players are anchors there
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>>171948608
he's probably one of the best heroes to play vs shitters

good players are better at abusing your slowness and predictability, but shitters will just run into your hooks, constantly dying, therefore turning the game into a 6v4 in your team's favor
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>>171948640
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>>171948357
Oversumo, its a phone app
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>>171948740
>slowness
there's universal walk speed aside from tracer and genji
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>>171948608
>go in alone
>hook a support, kill him and die while feeding 600+300 hp worth of ult
>repeat every 20 seconds
>"wow i have gold kills how is my team so bad"
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>mystery hero tryhard talking trash every game
>check his profile
>unranked
>never played a season
>7 hours of lucio in quickplay

must be one of those kids that played nothing but aram
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>>171948792
roadhog has no way to deal with being caught dead in the water. almost every other hero does. quit being disingenuous
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>>171948779
Imagine the salt if players actually had to play attack only heroes on attack and vice versa regarding defence.
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>>171948972
Attack win rate goes from 60% to 90%
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>>171949025
wait i fucked up the memes
it'd still end with 90% though
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>>171949025
Are you saying all defensive heroes suck?
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>>171948972
who is this semen demon
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>>171949114
>Bastion, Hanzo, Junkrat, Mei, Torb, Widow
vs
>Genji, McCree, Pharah, Reaper, S76, Sombra, Tracer
Yes
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>>171948823
kek happens way too often, then i tell myself that my team can push now cus one of the heals is dead
which never happens
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>>171949164
random asian cosplayer, just hit the reverse image search button on your extension senpai
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>>171949624
>Guys we're 5v5 you should push now!!
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silver pharah/dva main here, how do i get out
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>>171948667
except that genji/mccree smurf in the enemy team.
Fuck i've been getting so many smurfs lately.
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>>171949801
Stop playing Dva

Shoot the support
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>>171948779
Am i the only one who read the reaper's line in his voice in my mind?
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>>171949801
you can't
comp is just luck
not kidding
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>>171949792
>and they probably have an ult or two ready, too while we didn't get anything!
not sure how he read that post, responded to it admittting it and still missed the point completely
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>>171921048
Lol, bronze. I cant even imagine.
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>>171949792
kek
yea but i mean they got 1 less heal to sustain them, in the long run, my team should prevail.
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>>171950038
every class has its shitters but i feel like hog gets more than normal because they think they 'carry' people

exhibit a >>171950085
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>>171950183
>support player
>forced to offtank one game
>pick hog
>4 golds the whole time, raping their entire team solo

I can see why hog mains tend to be such insufferable egotists
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>deaths has a circle next
>can't actually get medals from it

this really bothers me
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>>171936735


> boosting his danny

what are these hip words you darn kids are using nowadays
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>>171950310
hog is a weird hero since you'll often do better as him if you don't play him as often. most hog players have a certain mindgame modus operandi that makes their hooks telegraphed. like, a lot of hogs tend to wait 0.5 seconds for jukes before hooking upon seeing an enemy. but if you're a support shitter playing hog, you might not wait at all, or you might wait a full second. it's harder to play against a hog that plays different from other hogs

that could all just be bullshit and i made it up, but it's a cute thought
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>>171949164
doremi cosplay, she has skimpier cosplays, bretty gud
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>>171950506
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>>171950567
Well you made up the "support shitter" part for sure
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>>171950567
it's called not being predictable, which can be caused by inexperience like your point
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>>171950602
can they remove the circle next to it though?
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>>171950663
are you the guy on my team who keeps forcing a mercy pick in king of the hill vs genji and winston lmao
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>>171950602
>Players were consistently confused as to whether the medal was for most or fewest deaths

You have to try to be that retarded
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>>171948674
High Platinum. I play Genji, Ana, Tracer, Soldier, Hanzo, Mei, Roadhog, Zenyatta, Lucio in that order. I can play other heroes but those are the ones I'm best at.
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WHOEVER MAKES NEXT OP IF YOU GET TO IT FIRST:

could you add geeral tips link pls? is updated now

thx famele

http://pastebin.com/F7uiVezy
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>>171950602
What this basically sums up to is that the medal system is AIDS and a regular ass scoreboard like every other fucking game in existence would have been leagues better
The medal system disables some shitty practices but opens up a whole hell of a lot more.
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>>171951175
they had a normal scoreboard in beta, going off of old STAR_ videos
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>>171951175
>What this basically sums up to is that the medal system is AIDS
since assholes and leavers won't vote for each other
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>>171950935
what? add the discord?
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>>171950935
>tracer's recall
>5 seconds
it's 3 you shitter
and pretty much everything written there is ability descriptions anyway, what's the point
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>>171951175
You don't need a scoreboard when your matchmaking is awesome :^)
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>>171949801
As DVA? She's the 10th in the top 10 most played mains in Master. So it's not impossible to play her at higher skill levels, despite what shitters tell you.

Just become a DM whore and learn when to use it. You need some good reaction times to delete grenades, darts, Zarya's ult and stuff. She has a bit of an identity issue as for if she's a flanker or anchor. You play one or the other depending on their comp and skill level.

Use your ult for zoning or learn the best spots to use the ult(Use it always from above and from a place people won't notice until too late). Don't ever use it to just get a new Meka, that's a shitter move.

Learn how to play baby DVA too, it'll make the difference between 10 deaths and a final card saying 10 mechs called. People often just get on the Meka as soon as they can not realizing her mid-range harassing potential.

Also, gotta learn that she doesn't work against certain comps.

t. ex silver shitter now diamond dva main
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>>171951175
> regular ass scoreboard
desu this really wouldn't decrease any of the toxicity or shittery, merely change it a bit, and sometimes give focus for pinpoint bullying.
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>>171951480
>She's the 10th in the top 10 most played mains in Master
What?
>>
>playing plat
>no mercies
>climb to diamond
>suddenly 2 Mercys every single game

What the fuck
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>>171951480
>She's the 10th in the top 10 most played mains in Master
so with a team of 6 players and the mandatory must pick heroes she is completely irrelevant, but nice wording. made her almost seem not shit.

PS: I love her and have all her legendaries, but she is not made anymore for comp. I know some grandmasters have her in their 3 "mains" hate that word but she is irrelevant.
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>>171951480
>not realizing her mid-range harassing potential
yeah no. her blaster does good dmg, but being in mech can keep that stray helix from fucking u or your teammate which is far more useful.
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>>171951560
It'd stop all the "WELL I HAVE TWO GOLD MEDALS" people from saying they're doing great despite never going near the objective once.

Sure it might get people to shit on the lowest person on the scoreboard but that already happens anyway by just saying "my team is shit"
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>>171951639
are all silvers literally incapable of reading?
>>
My sides. I need more pictures like this.
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>>171951690
Using main as a term is completely fine. Anyone who isn't retarded would understand that it means "someone you mainly play", since "main" is the fucking term, and not "only" or "always".

Did that interpretation of it come from mobafaggotry? I've never heard it before these threads.
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>>171949801
pharah should be a free rank up to diamond as long as you dont fly out in the open like a retard when enemy has long range hitscan

shes relatively easy to play and requires team coordination to counter
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>>171951560
That's an issue with the playerbase, not the game.
If players can't handle a scoreboard in an FPS, then they don't need to be playing the game in the first place.

Also Final Blows should have a medal next to Eliminations.
Too many shitstains get away with "I gob gold elims :^)))" when most of them are just tapping an enemy and letting someone else take care of it
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>>171951678
>play mercy in plat
>get yelled at by autistic plat genji mains
>play mercy in diamond
>don't get yelled at by autistic plat genji mains
probably why
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>>171951879
>shes relatively easy to play and requires team coordination to counter
or any of the hitscan classes, of which there's almost always 2 or more
>>
new thread
>>171951982
>>171951982
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>>171951639
http://www.omnicmeta.com/2017/03/onechart-top-ten-hero-mains-for-season-4.html
>A player has a "main" hero when that player plays more than 50% of all games with that hero. Using the data for hero usage collected in Season 4 for PC, we break down the most popular hero mains for each tier.

>>171951690
Well, I climbed to diamond mostly playing her. He probably can get there too if he gets good. I just can help him past mid-diamond, because I'm stuck there.

>>171951747
>Stray helix
That's lack of map awareness. I said mid-range.
Meka DVA doesn't have range, Baby DVA gives her that.
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>>171951848
But you can't "mainly" play three characters, or whatever. It loses meaning if you say it like that.
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>>171951848
pretty much, meta/main are meme words to make esport commentaries seem more "clever"
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>>171952028
>I said mid-range.
are you retarded? soldier is king of midrange
>>
bread

>>171952067
>>171952067
>>171952067
>>171952067
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>>171952026
>[Embed]
>Discord added
Really makes you think...
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>>171930725
>that shockingly low Tracer count

I feel like I own the keys to the secret weapon
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>>171952028
*I just can't help him

>>171952101
Are you retarded? You are incapable of assessing the situation and thinking what it's going to be more helpful: Getting in the Meka asap or shooting at people from afar?

I never said she's supposed to fill out anyone's else role.
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>>171952390
>I never said she's supposed to fill out anyone's else role.
i didn't say you said that.

you said it's good to use a baby DVA at mid-range for some extra DPS.
I say no because any number of things can fuck you or a team mate you could be protecting.
Get in your mech faget

"B-but muh spatial awareness"
whatever you say. you never been suprised by another player huh?
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>>171952954
>you said it's good to use a baby DVA at mid-range for some extra DPS.
But it is. You can call the Meka when they close the gap.

>I say no because any number of things can fuck you or a team mate you could be protecting.
It can. That's why you assess the situation.

>whatever you say. you never been surprised by another player huh?

Not in a long time, no.
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>>171953518
The problem with using baby D.va is that you won't build ult for self-destruct
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>>171949642
post more d.va cosplay
are there any good lny skin cosplays?
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