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Dota 2 General - /d2g/ - The Gulag

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Quarry Edition
>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://store.steampowered.com/news/28266/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://yasp.co
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/
http://www.liquiddota.com/
livestreamer GUI: https://github.com/bastimeyer/livestreamer-twitch-gui

>BETTING
Cosmetic Items:
www.dota2lounge.com
http://dota2.vpgame.com/
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/gosubet
http://dota2.vpgame.com/

>PREVIOUS THREAD
>>171712231
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Good OP
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adelaide.

legends never die.
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>>171850094
I miss old /d2g/

I don't miss animeposters though
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I'd have preferred a Soe OP, but this is alright as well.
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third for filter and ignore adelaide
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Post some ancient memes.
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whats best position for Tony in this patch?
only lost 2 games today and both had a tiny in our team as pos 1
even 6 slotted it felt so worthless and unable to kill anything nor hit towers
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>>171850351
>this post was already filtered for me
Feels good man.
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>>171850295
What about.

>Ahhh, more memes for my Dank Memeoire.
https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/d/df/Warl_rare_03.mp3
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>using a filter on 4chan

go back to your hug box safe space echo chamber whatever normie fucking website that is

LUL
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>>171850404
>6slotted tony
>unable to kill anything
what
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>>171850436
I miss that too
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>>171850402
>ancient
Still, have some relevant memes.
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>>171850436
fuck that
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>>171850585
I say ancient because rtz is a relic.
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>>171850560
6 slotted tony is either kited or instakilled by half the hero pool
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>>171850436

>BY THE POWER OF GORETH
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>>171850674
Then either he ditched his mobility item when he shouldn't, or his team gave completely lackluster setup/support.
>tfw 98th percentile CK according to dotabuff
I can live with this
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>>171850402
>I invoke... deafening bath!

gl smelly dotards
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>>171850402
>>171850295
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What team is our guy singsing on dotards?
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>>171850894
team waiting for dark souls 3 final dlc m80
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>>171850402
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>>171850781
post dotabuff
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>>171850846
>can't cast if you are silenced

heh, nothing personal kid.
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>>171850402
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>>171850402
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>>171851085
I am utterly convinced that morello and guinsoo saw this image, too it way too serious, and that is the reason why LoL has its forced meta
Theres no other reason why its the only game where the admins actively control gameplay
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>tfw you destroy your soulring accidentally as nyx
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>>171850402
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>>171850781
>>171851087
Whoops, meant opendata

Also, spoiler, it's shit, but who cares :^)
https://www.opendota.com/players/28509935
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>>171851152
wrong game nigger
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>>171851367
>and doing that doesnt even break you out vendetta
W H O A
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>>171851347
>league cucks put up with that
Is dota just too hard for them? I do not understand why you would play that game when the company does INSANE things like ban you from playing for not playing the meta

Why don't they just pick the fucking heroes for each match and force the meta that way?

They basically do because you have to PAY for more heroes/gameplay and get banned if you do not play it way its intended. LUL
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>>171851447
lemonade?
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>>171851447
Gatorade?
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>>171851652
They don't know any better, all their friends play LoL, Dota is harder.
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>>171851517
smmes like you are not enough aggressive as Spectre early on and maybe too much as CK later on
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>>171851447
marmalade?
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>>171851447
something something rhymes with cant get laid?
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>>171851768
>the marketing for dota sucks
should we fix this boys
Will it revive this dead game
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>>171851970
Bring back the chilly toad.
The hack had no idea what the fuck he was doing, but somehow he almost always managed to make an entertaining patch.
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When do the GOOD teams play?
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>play a bunch of ranked
>realize that there is always an Axe and Jugg picker in every game

Who to pick if they are the enemy? They feel so hard to play or counter at times...especially if its your pub teammates who are dumb
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>>171852116
Ursa is good against both
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>>171852116
>they pick jugg
pick ursa
>they pick axe
pick jugg
>they pick jugg and axe
pick BANE?
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>>171852116
pick Of Deceit the Smoke
gank them
procees to push
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I don't get why a red headed anime girl is affiliated with a city located in australia.
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>>171852449
she's not a real redhead she died her hair like a slut
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>tfw broke my ranked winstreak by last picking Huskar into Invoker Spectre Jug Necro LC
had megas at 30 minutes but then the power of bad pickage kicked in
sometimes you just cant hope to avoid meta and go for superior playstyle
feelsbad
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why are my teammates so angry at me when I play with an arcana? I can be playing the same as everyone else and they will call me out on every fucking thing.

Using an arcana is like having a target on your back holy shit
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>>171850402
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>>171852547
3k mmr is full of angry teenagers that will get envy at you for being able to afford hats
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>>171851152

Boxer a cute!

his wife looks like an ayy lmao though even with all that plasitc surgery

jesus Korean women are soooooo fake
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>>171846286
good goy, remember to buy the heroes goy!
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>>171852271
>jugg counters axe
>not other way around
low hp high dps magic immunity reliant melee carry against high armor hero with a bkb piercing disable and loves to get blademail?
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>How to fix CK aghs
You can cast it on an enemy hero, but don't get the 50% chance of an extra illusion then.
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SALIM RATO
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>>171851472
>>171850402
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has /d2g/ ever had a meet up at TI or anything?

pic related its /fa/
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>>171853094
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>>171853094
>/fa/
>is not /fa/
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What is your honest opinion on Sing?
No memes please.
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>>171853243
i want to cum inside his butthole
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>>171853184
It is legit /fa/ not even memeing.
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>>171853184
You don't go to /fa/ if you want to look good.
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>>171853324
I meant they're not fashionable.
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Why you aren't playing le balanced fire bird right now?
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>>171853184
>he doesn't know /effay/
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>>171853386
>/fa/
>fashionable
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>>171853094
>that pink hat arizona sippin faggot
kek
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>>171853386
Are they?
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>>171853402
low armor and long cd escape to be a good offlaner
has to rape opponent to be useful at mid
is level hungry as a support and will be useless if starving in early fights
ult falls off quickly and does shit only while diving t1s for ganks early on

still i love playing firebird
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Hero for someone with 1,2k mmr?
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>>171853094
I met with some people from here at esl
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>>171853094
For the most part these guys are pulling off the look they are going for but they all need a hair cut. I mean they do not look good do not get me wrong.

The guy on the far left has a low cut black shirt that accentuates his long neck, not flattering. He is also wearing dress shoes and no socks.
>so this is the power.....of /fa/
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>>171853839
wraith king.
One active and being able to build anything should be just right for you.
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What is this guy doing nowadays?
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>>171853624
also doesnt help that jugg is super fucking meta right now
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>>171853839

play dazzle and build urn into medallion

because youre 1k nobody will give a shit if you steal farm or jungle and if the game gets stalled out get a desolator for teh lulz
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Why do you people meme Peru to the death?
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>>171853935
indeed
also lc is always pub material and right now every carry loves to build tanky and supports have way to fuck up your dps
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I need to understand the skill difference in brackets, quick boys to the memes
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>>171853243
Only funny if you're a retard that memes on twitch
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>>171854024
they need a scapegoat

accepting the burden of their own actions is just too great
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>>171854024
I play on euw and dont find that there are some kind of predispositions in fuckin up from defines ethnicities
people usually have bad feeling with ruskies but it is just because they are angry teens that get mad at the first cyka they read in allchat
if i find problems in comunicating with cis people id usually just caps DAVAI in teamchat and set the mood
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171854381
>cis people

you need to go back.
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>go to rune spot at 2 minute-mark
>no rune
Dotards ?
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Why doesn't china like OG?
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Why do i keep getting matched with level 100s when i am only level 12 and then get flammed by it even if we win?
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>>171854261
if you cant rank up from even 1k by carrying physically and morally your team you deserve to be here
now
i have been calibrated 1.9k
i got to 2k7 by playing visage sf and shadow shaman
then rised up to 3.5 with axe storm invoker undying and earthrhaker
last month i decided to stop fuckin around and pick meta, basically i had jug slark and naix as my pos1 choices, od ember and invoker for mid, when facing ember myself i went straight into lc mid and always had the upper hand
weaver undying ds and centaur were my off picks
as support i found out to be best with venge rubick ogre and earth spirit
i tend not to jungle unless i see the lanes are strong and defensive, and could group up and fight as they hit the first core item, then my choice would mostly be bloodseeker, gettin a sub 5 min midas into straight pickoff items like silver and bloodthorn and ballin out from there
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>>171854837
uh i forgot to mention fv as offlane if my team has invoker or a ranged carry that can abuse chrono, usually is my go to if i have a troll as core
btw just hit 4168 mmr
it doesnt get harder, just more tryhardish and competitive and therefore funnyer
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ITT: heroes who should get an announcer pack
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>>171854823
low mmr/bracket high lvl accounts are just people who buy a lot of hats and suck at the game, then they are always pissed because they feel like they dont deserve to be so bad after yet having inbested so much into a game and will blame everyone but themselves
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>>171855131
i mean i know i suck because i just started but it's not my fault i get queued into them. Really puts me off as i get flamed for situations that are not my fault .
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>>171855078
>your tower is under attack, if i were you this wouldn't happen you mindless idiot
>first blood! even if i would have hit that much earlier
>the dire now has summoned theyr strongest creatures, i bet you wont be able to handle this!
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>>171855131
spot fucking on.
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I want to fuck Chaos Knight and Abaddon.
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>>171855278
You literally play at the same level as them and they have been playing longer

point that fact out to them and make them feel bad, or just say some wisdom that will shut them up such as

>you are the only constant in all your defeats.
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>>171855436
Well this is new
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>>171855342
a psychological approach is literally everything you need to succeed in this game as it is basically about having 4 people help yoi agains other 5
while ranking up i found plenty of guys like the first anon stated and yet i got to win with them by being a subtle cheeky mentalist
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>>171855591
You are either a momma's boy with a manipulative mother

or you are a women
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>>171855131
I never understood faggots whom brag about having 4k hours or such a high lvl while being stuck in the trench. They're also full of so fucking helpful 'advice', like how to use every ultimate ability on every hero except the one they're playing.
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>>171855579
It's really sad cuz i just want to learn the game with people of my own level and skill.
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>>171855719
That's not a woman because he didn't give you a backstory into how he started doing that.
wymyn always use ' I feel' and feel the need to paint you a whole gallery instead of a quick rundown.
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>>171855436
I want chaos knight and abaddon to fuck, while their horses fuck
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>>171855963
they are of your own skill xD

they just played more heroes then you.
They have the same map awareness, the same reflex timings, the same general game knowledge as you. That is why they are there, they can literally not git gud.

MMR is like an IQ test desu
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>>171856507
>tfw you will never be a kid again and buy some cool ass books that come with toys during the bookfair
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>>171855719
im just a guy who has a humble consideration of himself but yet know the mental stereotype of most dota players
at least in the trench, had not need to act manipulative in a while since broke 4k a while ago
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>>171856507
i feel like the movie is either gonna be amazing or a massive disappointment, hopefully dreamworks doesn't fuck it up
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>>171853897
thx
won against tryhard team easily
25 min with weaver, wk(me), disruptor, pugna and ss; against SK PA Legion Mirana and AM.
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>>171856919
>no need to act manipulative in awhile

bullshit. that is the kind of skill a person can literally not turn off unless they studied psychology and learned it from there. If your manipulative nature is innate it is something you picked up as a child by mirroring the adults in your life. It is literally who you are, and how you learned to get what you need from the world.

or you are a women.
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PSG here

>Play Dota on a whim yesterday
>Just fuck around
>Guy on my friends list rages, announces he's deleting me and abandons

Not even 15 minutes and I made someone really mad

Still got it.
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>>171857192
i litteraly never did that irl because id feel guild abouy that but thought being able to do that with a random person on a videogame to win a match for both of us would be reasonable
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>>171857021
>dreamworks
>the same company that brought you shrek, sharktales, the bee movie, boss baby, and Madagascar
>making a good animated feature
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>>171857591
>shrek
>bad
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>>171857548
Are you trying to convince me you have not ever manipulated people in real life or are you trying to convince yourself
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>>171856507
>2003 release
>nostalgic

underage b&s pls go
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>>171858036
im 22 my dude
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WE SEVEN POINT OH FOUR BOY
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>Lycan: Base strength increased by 3
HOWL UP
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>>171858338
>it's true
AHAHAHAHA THEY ARE THIS DESPERATE

I honestly hope the player count just keeps falling at this point and maybe the game will be good again
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I love how icefraud keeps fucking buffing halberd and sange.
I wonder how long until he realizes the buildup for sange is inherently shit.
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7.04:

Hurricane Pike recipe increased from 250 to 500
Silver Edge recipe increased from 300 to 500
Ghost Scepter cooldown reduced from 25 to 20
Sange and Yasha proc chance increased from 35% to 40%
Heaven's Halberd cooldown reduced from 22 to 18
Slippers of Agility are no longer available in the Side Shop
Centaur: Stampede Scepter damage reduction reduced from 50% to 40%
Monkey King: Primal Spring slow rescaled from 40/50/60/70% to 30/45/60/75%
Monkey King: Spring winding up sound effect can be heard by nearby enemies
Magnus: Base attack time increased from 1.7 to 1.8
Magnus: Reverse Polarity cooldown increased from 120/110/100 to 120
Abaddon: Strength gain reduced from 2.7 to 2.5
Abaddon: Mist Coil projectile speed reduced from 2000 to 1600
Lifestealer: Base damage reduced by 2
Keeper of the Light: Base damage reduced from 43-57 to 43-50
Brewmaster: Drunken Brawler cooldown reduced from 16/14/12/10 to 13/12/11/10
Nature's Prophet: Level 10 Talent increased from +225 Health to +250
Nature's Prophet: Level 15 Talent changed from +35 Movement Speed to +4 Treants Summoned
Razor: Level 20 Talent increased from +30 Attack Speed to +40
Razor: Level 20 Talent increased from +275 Health to +325
Death Prophet: Level 10 Talent increased from +10% Magic Resistance to +12%
Death Prophet: Exorcism spirit damage increased from 55 to 58
Queen of Pain: Shadow Strike cast point reduced from 0.452 to 0.4
Phoenix: Level 15 Talent increased from +120 Gold/Min to 150
Phoenix: Level 15 Talent increased from +50 Fire Spirits DPS to +65
Kunkka: Level 10 Talent increased from +25 Damage to +30
Kunkka: Level 15 Talent increased from +20 Movement Speed to +30
Lycan: Base strength increased by 3
Arc Warden: Strength gain increased from 2.3 to 2.7

(1/2)
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>>171858578

Lone Druid: Level 15 Talent increased from +30 Spirit Bear Damage to +50
Ancient Apparition: Cold Feet manacost reduced from 150 to 125
Broodmother: Insatiable Hunger lifesteal increased from 60/90/120% to 60/100/140%
Broodmother: Insatiable Hunger damage increased from 60/90/120 to 60/100/140
Bristleback: Quill Spray AoE increased from 625 to 650
Puck: Base damage increased by 3
Lich: Chain Frost cooldown reduced from 120/90/60 to 100/80/60

(2/2)
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>Puck: Base damage increased by 3
Yeah boiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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>>171858578
>Hurricane Pike recipe increased from 250 to 500
>Silver Edge recipe increased from 300 to 500
>Slippers of Agility are no longer available in the Side Shop
>Centaur: Stampede Scepter damage reduction reduced from 50% to 40%
>King nigger nerf'd
>my main man phoenix buffed
>lycan buffed
>brood buffed
>BASED puck BUFFED (with a-lack-rity :D)

good patch
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>>171858519
how is a balance update """""""desperation"""""

it was obvious that we would see an expedited release schedule with the sheer number of changes 7.0 brought in
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>LD actually got a useless bear buff
HE CANT
KEEP GETTING
AWAY WITH IT
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I forgot how to dota

I used to random and still maintain ~55% winrate... now since 7.00 I just can't random any more, I get keked
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>>171858858
he's just looking at anything to complain
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>removing slippers from the side shop.
idiot frog
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>>171859131
>playing dota at all
lmfao
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+4 TREES
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>>171859283
dont have the image but remember someone who doesnt play dota its in the lowest tier of intelligence chart
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>Guy pings mid
>just him and me left to pick
>"dude you should pick AA, we have alch deny pick it"
>wtf i aint playing no shitty ass hero
>"shitty ass hero? fine i will play mid AA"
>fuck you wont
>i pick invoker
>"Fine two mid" he picks AA
>entire team flames him
>"Dude we would have won this game if you just let me carry AA mid"

epik
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@171859257

why should agi heroes have all the fun?
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>>171859364
They didn't actually say he gets a totally new level 20 talent that is 35 attack speed.
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>>171852792
I dont buy any of them actually
I only play furion and whatevers on rotation
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can someone confirm if we are dead yet

i havne't played thru last update but im tempted to play again
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>>171859986
>615,350
>playing an hour ago
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>>171858578

>+4 Treants Summoned
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>>171859986
no you stupid fuck, we are not dead
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>>171859986
>>171860043
Yeah ded game xd who cares about half a million peopel
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>>171858578
>Slippers of Agility are no longer available in the Side Shop
the only notable one
rest is meme tier
i miss reading patchnotes and thinking "ABSOLUTE MADMAN" every couple of minutes
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>>171858578
>+4 trees
Simply epic
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>>171854823
This right here; like for fuck sakes, how are you still 2k mmr with like 4k hours played?
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43 u n i q u e p o s t e r s

a dead thread, for a dead game.
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>>171860208
ill kill you
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>>171860208
thanks for pushing it to 45 dedshitter
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icefrog here, hope you like the new patch
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>>171856369
>>171860197
The problem is that since i am just starting i get flammed for not knowing every single hero in the game or not ultying the right target etc it's really annoying. All i want is to play with players that are also starting and not get shat on by a player that has a bilion hours in this game
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>>171860432
thanks frog, i like it
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>>171860158
>>171858578
Fucker's going to remove the side shop in 7.1 at this point.
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>>171860457
Is it like your first time playing a moba or did you select the "oh i've played games like this before" cuz if you select that, they might've screwed you over and gave you 1k shitters that already know the basics.
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>>171860432
remove respawn talents for core heroes you faggot
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>>171860578
i got nothing like that. i played like 300 games back in 2013 and a handfull of games a few months ago but that's it.
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I love that they keep buffing my bird. 60% winrate with over 1k games and it just keeps getting ezier. Thanks frog.
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>ABSOLUTE MADMAN xD

get the fuck off my board.
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>Magnus finally gets picked
>Nerfed straight away

Now it is confirmed that Icefrog has either been forcefully retired or succumbed to mental retardation.
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>>171860158
they are for big patches only, 7.00 was the latest gigapatch.
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>>171860783
>being first ban first picked every game its ok
>thinking its fine for magnus to be stronger than other heroes because "he hasnt been viable before!"
kys lol shitter
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>>171860578
just to add i played league for 1 or 2 years during beta/early release days
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>>171858578
LMAO
4
TREANT
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>>171860887
Yet Monkey '100% pb' King remains un-butchered and imbalanced along with Luna and Juggernaut (which have been barely touched for 1 and a half years).

Face it, if Magnus had received an arcana he'd be untouched. We LoL now.
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>>171850094
+ 4 T R E A N TS
4
T
R
E
A
N
T
S
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>>171861175
neither luna or jugg are first ban and first pick
if they fuck your boipussy in pubs its not the game's problem, its yours
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>>171861175
mk has gone through consecutive nerf patches after being introduced to the game

>luna is imbalanced

oh you are just trolling
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Centaur: Stampede Scepter damage reduction reduced from 50% to 40%


You gotta be shitting , Fucking leave him alone valve , how many time did they nerf his ult again?
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>>171861289
t. 2k mmr

Maybe in your retardo peruvian brackets where people don't level healing ward your comment should be listened to, but kindly fuck off back to el reddito, mr. beaner.
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>>171857969
just telling you that im not the kind of person that would abuse his talents just because he can
the base of living well with yourself is knowing how to limit
also im kinda the dude who will work hard to obtain something rather than have others do it in his place
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>>171861374
>100% first pick/ban
>one of the highest winrates in pubs across all skill levels
GEE I DON'T KNOW ANON
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>>171861013
I mean I guess they still calibrated you to 1k shitters who blame their team when they lose and fuckin' be mad for no reason. You only played a handful of games so ye
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>>171861334
So has Earth Spirit.

What's your fucking point you retard? No one here is gonna upvote your dumb fuck ape opinions.
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>>171861374
this is only the third time since introducing the aghs upgrade (6.84)

you dont believe 70% DR was a bit much?
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>>171861448
>t. 2k mmr
Im probably higher mmr than you, and unlike you, i have waaay more years playing the game

keep crying about heroes that arent even that big of a deal, i'll just keep playing and enjoying the game
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>>171861532

I mean yeah i got your point but didn't they nerf his ult the last patch? If this keep going he might end up as Pl
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>>171861598
>So has Earth Spirit.

and he is no longer first p/b material. your example just proves the system is working as intended
>le reddit
you're the one who believes luna is op :^)
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>>171861632

>>171855868
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>>171861452
You are literally explaining your actions and justifying what you do to a random stranger on the internet because he made a point that made you feel presumably uncomfortable enough for you to explain numerous times the same point.

Let that sink in. and understand you are just trying to convince yourself.
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>>171861632
Alright, I'll take you up on your offer since I got time to kill.

1v1 solo mid, you choose which hero, loser quits dota. Post your steamid, I'll wait.
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>>171861617
I find it funny that he had this update for like 2 years now and only now the monkeys started picking him in competitive.

I hate this state of the whole game so much.
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>>171861598
>What's your fucking point you retard?
His point is that Icefrog isnt ignoring MK like you think he does because "muh arcana", you stupid faggot

>waa waa he's still first ban/pick!!
Icefrog hasnt been ultra nerfing heroes since 6.75, he goes slowly because he knows heroes come and go from the meta because of trends and people learning how to play against/with, and not just because buffs or nerfs

And it has been working
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>>171861842

Can i watch?
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>no alch or axe nerfs

yeh fuck this game
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>>171861993
didn't axe get a buff one or two patches ago?

I am sure the plus 40 armor when he uses call is new.
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>>171861842
Sorry bro, got an exam later, cant play with you
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>>171861581
that sucks desu but i guess there's nothing i can do about it
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>>171862102
>get called out 1v1 mid
>dont accept


no balls.
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>>171861757
rofl
literally look at any team that drafts against top tier ES players (OG, TNC, EG)
he's almost always first banned
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>>171862060
plus 40 has always been like that, he now has great talents and a pure damage spin plus blademail is still op and he can solo kill any farmed carry cause xd stop hitting yourself.
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>>171861965
Hey retard, stop drooling on your keyboard and kindly fuck off.

>Icefrog hasnt been ultra nerfing heroes since 6.75, he goes slowly because he knows heroes come and go from the meta because of trends and people learning how to play against/with, and not just because buffs or nerfs

t. loser with no knowledge making shit up in his head.

Icefrog butchered tons of fucking heroes after 6.75 like tinker, alchemist and magnus.
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>>171862191
so because he is a player based ban he is op?

better nerf the shit outta meepo cause abed gets first banned then
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>>171862060
>I am sure the plus 40 armor when he uses call is new.
nigga what
it's been like that since forever
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>>171862191
>against top tier ES players
WELL NO SHIT, THEY HAVE TOP TIER ES PLAYERS

ITS THE SAME WITH HEROES LIKE MEEPO, INVOKER, EMBER SPIRIT, BLA BLA
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>>171862060


Nigga which year are you in ?
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>>171862102
Yet you have enough time to type low IQ opinions on /d2g/.

What's the exam on? Cause if it isn't 'Imitation of Great Apes Cognitive Abilities 101' I'm sure you're gonna fucking fail.
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>>171862302
>>171862320
Except you are wrong you fucking mongoloids. coL banning meepo first means jack shit because they aren't tier 1. Guessed what happened when EG drafted against Onyx? Meepo wasn't first banned, they focused on the broken heroes of the patch first.
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>>171862603
>Guessed what happened when EG drafted against Onyx?

you mean the meaningless show match?
oh surprise they didnt

just stop posting
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>>171862267
>like tinker, alchemist and magnus
Ok lets see
Tinker march of the machines not working on ancients? do you honestly think that wasnt necessary?

I remember the biggest nerf to alchemist was the ult giving regen instead of HP right? or maybe do you mean the gold swing during 6.82/83

and magnus, dont even remember the magnus "before being butchered", he was always the same hero
Or maybe you mean the 100 less damage on RP?
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>>171862320
>>171862302
>when you're lowkey a dumb fuck: the posts

kys
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I don't play anymore but regularly share my opinion here in regards to balance, thoughts?
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>>171862865
brain shooting rays of light.jpg
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>>171862773
>MK IS OP
>he is getting nerfed
>ES USED TO BE OP
>yeah til he got nerfed

there i spoonfed you since you have zero reading comprehension
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>>171862695
you're a fucking moron if you think Earth reveals more about your draft than meepo does. It's like you have no fucking idea how limiting a meepo is.

what's your mmr?
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>>171862696
How's a retard like you first state that icefrog hasn't butchered a hero since 6.75 and yet obviously hasn't played this game for longer than 2 years max?
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>>171861834
im just telling a guy on the internet that the world out there is not as he so dumbly assumes it is
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>>171862992
that wasnt the point of my statement at all

why dont you reread the conversation and reply back to me
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>>171862991
ES has been receiving constant 'nerfs' since his inception and YET is still top pick outside your little trench.
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>>171863001
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>New patch out
>/v/tards come in here to make this dead thread live again with their redditor opinions and icefraud worship

This is not how I had hoped this thread would spring back to its youth.

smdh tbqh my family
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>>171863130
just because you think it is, doesnt make it true
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>>171863112
point i was making is that ES is still too strong and has been top pick/ban for the last few patches against his best players. You and the other tard were saying that's meaningless because it's the same with abed meepo or any other player's top hero. And that's a shitty fucking comparison because meepo is much more limiting to a draft than ES is, and so are most of pro mains.
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>Poorman's Shield nerf
why
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>>171863130
>thinking grouping all 5k+ brackets together results in any kind of meaningful stat
just
k y s
even if it did, high tier brackets dont accurately represent the game's current balance.
>>
we need a dota2g discord
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>>171863485
fine it was a poor example to specifically use meepo.

the point was more that other heroes are first p/b status against players, but that doesnt mean the hero needs nerfs
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>>171863401
Guess invoker, SF, magnus and Kotl are shit too, going by your logic.

Luckily, I disregard your logic because it's garbage.
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>>171863569
>poorman's shield
>more expensive than stout

Really

makes

you

think
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>>171863738
>going by your logic

explain to me what you believe my logic is, cause clearly you have a misunderstanding
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>>171863693
>es is top tier pick outside of the trench
>here is substantial evidence contrary to that point
>let me completely disregard that evidence cause i dont believe it

why dont you do something to prove your fucking statement instead of spouting off like a retard
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>>171858519
>implying dota isn't fundamentally flawed
Do I have to post the link again?
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>>171864059
not trench = tier 1 pro games
there you go
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>>171864342
no that isnt gonna cut it faggot
stating it isnt proof of anything
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>>171864473
literally look at any tier 1 team drafting against earth spirit players you braindead mongoloid

do you know how to fucking use dotabuff?
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>>171864603
no i dont, so why dont you fucking post some evidence instead of continuing to spout off like a fucking retard
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>>171853931
I think he streamed the other day other than that still irrelevant
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WHY WONT VALVE FUCKIGNG READD REGION/LANGUAGE LOCK TO US SERVERS

ITS SO FUCKING BAD
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>7.04 already

what in hell
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>* Slippers of Agility are no longer available in the Side Shop

Fuck you.
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reminder to start popularizing the malediction + sunder gimmick so we can see it done at a professional level
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>>171863265
>hehe react pic
you could try not to be a faggot for once, anon
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Hey anon come over here for a bit... ;)
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What is the best lane to play Legion Commander i am enjoying this hero?
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>>171866921
mid or offlane
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>>171866921
mute everyone and go jungle
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>>171866921
mid lc against ember is one of the nastiest things you can do
just pick up a pms and ff so yoi can oo him lvl 1 and dive under tower
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>>171867673
why mute? also there's a limit to how many people i can report ? already got this.
>>171867673
>>171867796
thanks for the input
How do you speak in all chat?
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>>171866921
double offlane against weak safelane
despite what reddit says, jungle LC is okay in pubs unless you are 5k or higher
not sure when you should pick mid LC
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>>171866921
mid legion auto-wins the lane against 95% of pub mids you will face
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>>171867815
>jerax
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>>171867913
i just started playing but thanks for the info
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>>171868025
yeah fuck me.
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>>171867885
shift plus enter
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>>171869389
thanks
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>>171867796
>just pick up a pms and ff so yoi can oo him lvl 1
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>>171857969

shit like this is why psychology needs to be banned and all psychiatrists put in prison

my therapist would feed me bullshit like that all the time so i fucking beat his ass
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>lc gets 700 duel damage
>loses
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starting a new account
what should I exclusively play?
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What about techies triggers people so much? I get when the enemy gets triggered when they get blown the fuck up but I'm talking about my own teammates.
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>>171870370
>omg shit hero we lose gg I feed fuck you report techies
RIP behavior score.
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>>171870370

hes not played like other heroes and doesnt have to be anywhere near you to kill you, which breaks the autistic minds of dota players
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>>171870364
bane
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Who's that dotamon?
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>>171866470
mature matumba with child bearing hips
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>>171870495
Yeah that's pretty much spot on. He's one of my highest winrate heroes though and almost always have more net worth and exp than the whiners do without doing anything stupid like pushing the lanes by bombing waves or KSing. I just wish I could play them without people having breakdowns over it.
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>>171870370
>>171870495
>>171870515
He's a shit hero that bogs down the game and it always turns in a 4v5 for teamfights with techies on your team
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Any spectre players here? Just started playing her. Whats the build?
I usually rush either phase or vanguard into Radiance, then either Heart first then diffusal or the other way around, into Manta then abyssal.

I've always been bad at build and build orders so need some tips.
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>>171870978
Manta -> Radiance
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>>171870978
Iron Talon+Stout+Ring of health

vangaurd is very optional, if you're farming very well go straight radiance, if not go power treads into diffusal
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>>171871315


You go treads instead of phase? I've seen guides say treads but I can't imagine it being better than phase for her.
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>>171870654
Terrorblade.
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How is Alchemist doing in comp level Dota?
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>>171871404
>0 int 0 str hero with built in slow and phase
>go phase
They are both good though.
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>>171871404
Attack speed for yourself and illusions if you aren't going to get radiance nigga
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>>171870654
>two aghs
hopefully alchemist
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>>171871474
>get a good level 1 comp
>collect 3 bounty runes at game start
hes ok
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>>171870364
jungle LC
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>>171870978
i tried phase into mask of madness build in couple of games and liked it a lot
fast at farming and great at killing supports with first haunts, the downsides are lack of mana and inability to switch between illusions
rest is usual spectre shit, manta is mandatory (it gives you more damage than rapier if you proc desolate), go diffusal next if you want to kill people even better or skadi/heart if you have trouble surviving or butterfly if you want a bit of both
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>>171870654
you fucking nigger
I was in this game you absolute fucking shitlord
holy fucking shit
you better get lpq
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>Phoenix: Level 15 Talent increased from +50 Fire Spirits DPS to +65
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>>171872783
people forget to throw them before using supernova all the time, even in pro games
literally the only player i saw using them well is fitjew
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>>171872998
Fine by me I'll take my 2160 potential damage
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>>171871435
>>171871812
>>171872709
It's Earthshaker!
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>>171873110
daily reminder the guess that dotamon poster is a 2.8k shitter. we found out his mmr in another thread, he has no business doing guess that doter posts.
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>>171854261
A 1k player should have 75% winrate against 500 players. So 1,5k at 75% versus 1k, etc.
The same is true for every MMR increase up to somewhere in 3k.
Then you get players who has mastered fundamentals, but not enough of them to genuinely play good Dota, therefore they can't rise higher.
That said, somewhere there crops up all the drama queens.

>>171860783
Fagnus needs a fix.
Honestly they should just fucking fix the particles for Reverse Polarity, so its possible to see how far away you need to stand. The clipping edges is insanely long.

>>171866921
You can even mid against some heroes.
I mean like
So long you bother to have value point in Moment of Courage, you got a free crit + lifesteal EVERY SINGLE TIME you start trading in the creep wave.
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>Pick Shadow Demon
>Pick Spell Amp and Demonic Purge Talents
>Stack as many poisons as possible, purge and soul catcher
>Dies

>Repeat because lol 3 charges low cooldowns

Shadow Demon's pretty fun
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>>171870264
>lock yourself in pace
>die
lc is gutter trash
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>>171873560
literally never happens
unless you play him mid of course
>>
I think I'm finished playing supports and roamers for good. All my games at mid 4k are decided by who has the greedier lineup. I played earth spirit earlier against a team with 2 fucking junglers. I killed their offlaner several times, killed mid twice (and our mid still died to him solo somehow), and fucked with one of their junglers but didn't manage to kill him.

Then our Jugg, instead of pushing like I pleaded him to, clears our jungle a few times. The offlane weaver (who died solo to slark btw) gets a midas instead of a quick deso to munch towers. This isn't a rare occurence in my games. People don't seem to realise that taking early tier 1 towers lets us get aggressive wards down and limits what areas the enemy can safely farm.

So am I wrong to go jungle troll warlord from now on? It honestly feels like I need to get over this hump in player skill where space that I create is utilised better than "better get my midas vs 4.5 cores".
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>>171873942
>Get into the bracket where people start farming well
>Be surprised that the team with more farmers manage to farm more
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>>171873942
If you're going to pick a carry every game at least pick one that has some sort of non farm dependant use like void in case you fall behind
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>>171861185
>>171861015
that sound like cancer
>>
Does switching into my primary stat on treads affect projectiles in flight?
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>>171874798
No. Neither do activating evasion against them.
Nor do activating spell immunity against things that can't target spell immunes, but is aoe/pierces.
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>>171875036
I randomed clinkz twice in a short period of time and it's a struggle to have mana on that bastard.
I just know storm can do it with his passive.
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>>171873798
Enemy Troll and Axe could never push high ground

Troll died immedietly and Axe couldn't Counter-Helix and died soon after
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>>171870006
>m-muh free willy!!
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>>171875207
>0.5% spell damage if you switch to int while the ball projectiles are in air
Is that really something you care about?
And no: You always lose the +8 damage, no matter what. No way around it.
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>>171875207
>I randomed clinkz twice in a short period of time and it's a struggle to have mana on that bastard
next time get triple sobi mask on the lane and upgrade them into aquila, medalion and soul ring, use soul ring each time you eat a creep and you'll never run out of mana
>>
Ok, so just lost a game to a big fat overfed shark.

Guy in my lane fed him, died about 22 times, and he's blaming me because i didn't stick in the lane to help him.
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>>171875537
Did you tell him to just leave the lane and go jungle?
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>>171873224
Friendly reminder that you didnt

I'm the guy that posted like 3-4 with the tag of "
"WHOS THAT DOTAMON" last week and some dipshit decided he;d start spamming them too

my builds were from 5.2k~ avg games

i was also the hurricane pike naga, hurricane pike BS and echosabre kotl
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>>171875537
post screenshots or matchid
i'll analyse
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>>171875469
What?
Does int not give mana?
>>
>Playing Techies
>Nyx enters my jungle and blows up
>He respanws and teleports to a shrine
>I had 3 bombs there so he explodes and dies again
>Abandons
Techies is the best hero in the game for solo queue, you can't beat a hero that destroys the enemy team psychologically
>>
>>171877690
techies and pudge do this so well

i love them so much
>>
Is there a dota 2 channel where i can find low level anons to play with?
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>>171877690
He's fucking retarded if he's dying to mines like that, unless you mean remote mines
>>
will we ever again have a reddit-triggering moment such as TI3 fountain hooks?
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>>171877863
Jungle ones were landmines placed behind trees, shrine ones were remote
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>>171877690
>enemy nyx walks into mines
>activates spiked carapace
>dies
>"???????"
>"wtf bugged shit"
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>>171878071
>see techies winding up blast off
>spiked
>kill him
>"wtf bug hero"
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>>171877775
stop spamming this thread asking that, go to leddit if you wanna play with low mmr shitters
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>>171874556
it is
+4 + aghs just fed the entire enemy team
fml
>>
Can the offlane be fixed once and for all? It's gone through so many changes (camps changed, xp from neutrals killing lane creeps changed, xp range changed, iron talon, new PMS changes, etc, etc, etc) and it's still causing problems balance-wise.

There always seems to be an arms race kind of situation going on.
>1.I better pick an offlaner with an escape
>2.People are picking offlaners with escapes, better get a support with good lockdown or a carry that can chase
>1. People are getting kill-lanes, better get an offlaner that's really hard to kill like axe or timber
>2. People are picking tanky offlaners, let's get our roamer/jungler to rotate early or get a trilane and get free kills.
>1.People are bringing a roamer or just keeping the wave near their tower perfectly, better abandon the lane entirely and go jungle

I mean, there can't ever be a balance. Giving the offlaner more help balancewise leads to heroes like batrider/nyx/brood/phoenix getting shittons of work done, not enough help and they just buy iron talon at level 1 or pick dark seer because they'll just die if they step foot in lane.
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someone buy my old hats so i can afford new hats
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>>171878805
>LULliance
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>>171878805
You can profit off the battlepass without even trying. I bought the fall battlepass, played some dota (not shittons), sold the chests during the pass (sells for more if you wait til a month or two after the pass expires) and made double what the battlepass cost me. If there are sets you want, just buy them off the market for a few cents and sell the chest.

>He slaved away for hours for a few steambux for dota hats LMAO
I played normally, picked quests that suited the hero/game, no tryharding for wagers or daily/weekly quests. Did predictions/fantasy league during queue or downtime or whatever. Literally just playing like normal.
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>get lumped with le retarded 2stack
>rat like a filthy EE
>le 20k tower damage face
>REPORT CLINK NEVER FIGHT WITH TEAM

I wonder why I didnt fight with you morons
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>dad has friends over
>can't leave my room to get food
someone help
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>>171881619
>gets carried by jugg
>posts about how he won the game
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>>171881640
>doesn't have snacks in room just for that occasion
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>>171881775
>690 tower damage
>carried by jugg

and it was actually a post complaining about le shitty 2stacks in ranked meme
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>Just woke up
>7.04 is released
jesus christ
is it just me or are they updating super frequently now
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>* Slippers of Agility are no longer available in the Side Shop
but WHY THOUGH
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>>171881640
your dad is probably bitching about you right now, loser
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>>171882013
so faggot offlaners can't get their poor man's shield after one creep wave
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peruvian poor kid here starting to save for TI7 compendium

can anyone buy my reek autograph? i dont want to keep it anymore since i found out he fucks my lovely Soe.

it's less than 4 USD on the market. the one with Red hot Chili pepper logo
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>>171881775
>duh... he cool sword and have lots kills. that must mean he did best... is deathmatch game right? push? what that? durr...
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>>171882036
okay..
heres a (you) I guess
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>>171882181
>starting to save for TI7 compendium
>£10 or whatever it is in perubux
>starting to save
holy fucking shit that's pretty hilarious mate
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>>171873224
im also into whos dat doter and im 4.5k
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>>171882280
>dodge fight
>team gets wiped but i took tower

vs

>teamfight
>wipe their team and take 2 towers/racks

which one is better?
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>>171882734
more like

>dodge fight
>team gets wiped but i took tower

vs

>teamfight
>you wipe with their team because idiot teammates initiate at the shittiest of times/places
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>>171882921
>my team kept losing 4v5 fights
gee
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>>171882921
>fucking clinkz, super high dps hero good at killing enemies doesn't show up to fights
>team cant kill enemies
>"why do they keep losing fights wtf"
really makes you think
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>>171882181
>DAE REEK XD

>>>/reddit/

no advertising faggot
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>>171858578
>Slippers of Agility are no longer available in the Side Shop
fuck off cunt they've been there forever
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>Win 11/15 last game

Time for the forced 50% games now

2 loss in a row, expecting 8
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>>171860783
Magnus ulti should actually do damage again and his w should be nerfed, here I fixed him
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>>171861334
>luna is picked all the time
>not imbalanced
do you understand how pro games work m8
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>>171882280
thanks frogposter for proving my point

>>171882734
dumposter

>>171882921
smartposter

>>171883204
>>171883520
when did I ever say they lost fights
I just said they said I never fought with them
dumbposters
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>>171884069
It's only forced 50 if you literally can not git gud.
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who are the mmr grinding heroes now? I haven't played in a month or sa
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>>171884592
>when did I ever say they lost fights
I doubt your team would be bitching that you didn't fight with them if they won all the fights, retardposter
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>>171884069
>panda eyes
>red nose
>cracked lips
>split ends
>
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>gem has 84% win rate
Why don't people random a hero, get the first bounty rune, then buy a gem? You're basically guaranteed a win at the horn.
>>
what's the difference between 2.5 and 2.7 strength a level
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>>171885570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr0J2mQRWqs
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>>171885570
the difference between 5'11" and 6'
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>>171885570


like 400 hp and 4 dmg at level 25
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>stacks in ranked

loving this meme valve
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>>171885240
WOW XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tm6Pir_WYTQ
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why is icefrog even nerfing mist coil again
if he's gonna hit his pub winrate why even nerf the support build in the first place
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>have depression
>play pudge
>gettin SICK HOOKS
>get 3 denies in a row against an OD and Terrorblade and LC whaling on me
>More SICK HOOKS
>stylin on them
>ahhhhhhhh feeling fresh
>game ends
>man this should go on youtube or make some webms or something
>.....
>nah
>dont even care about the game anymore
>realize i didnt even use shake your money maker that game
>fuck
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>>171887505
>>171887663
Nice fucking blog and cool 2k story
>pudge pickers
Not even fucking once
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>>171887743
What's wrong with pudge anon?
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>* Queen of Pain: Shadow Strike cast point reduced from 0.452 to 0.4
W
A
O
W

What the fuck? Give the butt queen some proper buffs already.
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>>171887847
He lost too many game to pudge.

You know how it goes.

btw, the pudge hook nerf is severe, its so ez to blink dodge it when you are kinda close to him
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>>171887847
Now that he's viable, he's in EVERY FUCKING GAME and if he's on your team, he is basically a useless fucking fat exp sponge leeching of your lanes and missing all your hooks, and if on the enemy team he's fucking Dendi incarnate and WILL memeback the game for the enemy team by hooking your core properly

Fuck pudge, he should have stayed in his own special meme pick bracket, along with old aghs+refresher team deleter OD
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>>171888149
The only thing she needs is more polygons on dat ass
hhhnnnnggggggg
>>
Why is he getting ass fucked into the ground holy shit.

It's like they're trying not to make him good at anything.
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>>171888149
>someone actually saved my OC from way back in the day
what the fuck dotards
>>
Why does Jakiro have a 53% win rate but Lion only has 49%?
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>>171888603
>make a completely new hero not from the original wc3 map
>give him an arcana when some of the most played heroes dont even have one
>give him his own comic
>his own trailer
>100x more voice lines and responses than any other hero


>proceed to toss him in the trashcan
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>>171888701
I have all kinds of weird shit in my Doter folder
From ancient menes to classic shitposts
I will most likely never post most of it ever
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>>171888729
Jakiro's winrate at 5k is only 51%. Lion's winrate is actually only 46% at low mmrs. I wonder if that's because so many people in low mmrs try to rush an aghs or something.
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>>171888729
You can't counter Jakiro with lotus orb
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>>171888986
But Lion still has more team fight control than "500 Seconds To Cast a Spell" Jakiro.
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>>171889183
You can counter Jakiro by simply moving to the left.
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>>171889213
I guess? But clearly his lower winrate shows. Something.

Fuck if I know. Jakiro is a POS hero with longer cast animations than spell durations. Maybe it's just a small cabal of dedicated Jakiro players who know the hero like the back of their hand?
Lion's winrate is 12-10% while Jakiro's is 9-8%
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>>171889384
Pickrate, not winrate.

No but really, how in the fuck does Jakiro have a higher than 50% winrate? I would have thought it would be closer to 45%.
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>using his spells infront of everyone

nigga go hide in the trees and use the fog of war every fool knows how ez it is to kite his spells
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These are the shittiest heroes in the game

How do we fix them?
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Is the best way to deal with toxic feeders who abandon is to just carry on anyway?

Strangely enough, two out of my recent ranked games featured those kind of people. One was a Riki who AFK'd and intentionally fed all game(and abandoned when we won a 4v5 anyway) and another was a Timber who fed 6 kills with no kills of his own in offlane and abandoned(saving me an abandon because my internet went badly in that game, but I lost anyway)
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>>171889898
>my boy zues isnt on the list

yea my arcana niggas say whats up
>>
>>171889898
I dont get why do pubs still love LC when her winrate is bad at all levels
>>
>>171890241
FREE...DAMAGE?
>>
>>171889898

>NP
BadMeepo

>DeathProphet
At this point BadKiro

>PL
Agi Puck of NoDamage

>Bristleback
BadTimber

>Enchantress
BadLina/BadDruid/BadSniper

>WR
BadPA

>QoP
BadEmber

>Razor
BadWaveOfCreeps

>Broodmother
Somehow even shittier Tinker

>Gyro
BadDusa

>Puck
Puck

>LC
BadDadon/BadPudge

>Lesh
BadEmber

>Brewmaster
Farm Vacuuming Fat Drunk American

>DA TUSG
BadSpirit
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>>171890695
>NP
>bad meepo

I fail to see how this works
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>>171891013
likely something about global presence farm vacuums
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>>171889898
PLUS
FOUR
TREE
LMAO
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>>171889898
I don't understand how Ench's winrate is so low, I play in 5k average games and there's not a lot of safelane duos / trios who can deal with her solo offlane.

Then her kill potential is crazy high once she hits 6, get a midas to keep up then the usual Lance + Aghs and you're terrifying.
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>that 1 hero that you always play really good with, but you never manage to win as

what's their name, anon
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>>171888603
all the arcanas they were gonna sell have been sold so valve don't care about him anymore
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>>171882181
Stay away from Soe. She's too good to be lusted after by broke shitskins.
>>
>>171891624
disraptor
>>
>>171891624
Bane
>>
>>171891624
Undying

I just wanna dirge on scrubs but my team won't push the advantage while I am relevant ;_;
>>
members of the non-human gulag
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>>171891013

NP is BadMeepo.

Meepo can farm camps as quickly as NP once he hits level 3. He also has the ability to constantly keep fully stocked of hp and mana once he gets 3 meepos. These extra meepos can also scout and stack camps. Once he gets boots of travel he can effectively be in more places faster than NP can.

Meepo farms faster and scales harder off of farm but he still runs into a brick wall of being useless late game. But NP shares that same problem.

You stil lose the game with Memepo but it isn't as hard as with NP.
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>>171891624
oracle
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>>171873942
This is literally why I quit playing Dota completely. Hope that helps.
>>
Hey guys i have an idea on how to fix Sven
+10 move speed
Storm Hammer down to 130 mana
Warcry rework where +armor is rescaled to +4/8/12/18, add basic dispel
Cooldown rescaled to 26/22/18/14
Now he is much more difficult to kite, and becomes a perfect fit for mask of madness
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>>171894661
>just give him a bunch of minor buffs
Nah
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I think it's time to revert some nerfs guys
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>>171891624
invoker
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>>171894661
>Basic Dispel on Warcry

what the fuck no
>>
>>171894661

Aghanims' Scepter reworked: Sven's ult now gives him immunity to roots/slows (not magic immunity) and makes all his skills cost 0 mana
>>
This thread is officially die
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>>171891624
you posted him
>>
MoM on lone druid with bear entangles, viable or not?
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>>171860208
patch comes out, thread goes from 45 unique posters to 104.


nice thread dotards.
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>>171897130

Maybe 2 years ago
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>Just because I play support means I cannot be blamed!!!

Fuck support cucks that think this shit
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>they nerfed centaurs ult again

why
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Why is mjolnir axe so good boys?
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>>171897627
>ends the game when carries on both sides are six slotted and lvl 25

hi 3k.
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>>171897982
4k*

my team threw near rosh pit right after we took 2 rax, doing that cost us 2 rax and made the game much harder
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>>171897627
>winning against a broodmother

whoa

real difficult
>>
Is there a single fucking change that makes sense?
>>
god i fucking hate south americans and other third worlders.
this isn't even about how good they are at the game, this is just on principle of them being obnoxious as all fuck. why is every single person from this content invariably obnoxious?
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>>171898540
>slippers of agility no longer available at side shops
>next patch
>boots no longer available at the side shop
>next patch
>the "side shop" items can all be bought in the secret shop, side shop has been removed completely.

based chilly toad.
>>
>>171898762
All third worlders are

SEAmonkeys, spics, niggers, turks, arabs

All subhumans. Dota is a white mans game desu
>>
What does icefrog have against wraith band?
>>
>>171898895
oh yeah, no doubt about SEA players too. just got done with an invoker whose language sounded so fucking ugly. i think he was vietnamese or something.
>>
>make dota fun to watch
>make dota boring to play

Is ganky teamfight meta over yet
>>
>>171898895
>>171899007
why does their language sound/look like a lower form of human dialect? Truly primate speak.
>>
>Wanted to make the game faster paced, more experience and gold from getting hero kills
>keeps removing items from the side shop

is icefrog schizophrenic?
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When are you supposed to buy desolator?
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>>171900352
first item to much towers.
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>>171853386
>bad camera angle
>good lightning

guess what
but hey, those are actually nice outfits.
If you try to take a photo of them 1 by 1, you can see the full potential of those clothes.
the photo shows that they're trying to outshine themselves

if their photos were really taken 1 by 1, damn that would be a lit ass facebook profile pictures or twitter or whatever social shit
>>
>>171900707
>>171900707
face....book?
what?
>>
>>171891471
>hotd enchantress

good chen
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>"i've lost so much mmr today, shitty teams"
>goes CM carry

alright lads im done
>>
>6.80 to 6.88 took 4 years
>5 version changes in 3 months since 7.00
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>invoker casting tornado every 2 seconds
Who thought this was a good idea?
>>
>teammate highlights a hard support and picks it first or second


"I'm not supporting, carry lion bro ima rush aghs and maybe fuck this meepo but by like a quarter of his health."
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>>171898186
Especially as Axe.

You may as well send Mike Tyson against fucking Stephen Hawking in that case.
>>
>>171897627
>43 min mjolnir with ten minutes on mjolnir usage

mc fucking fuck off.
>>
>>171903835
Those 10 minutes are all that mattered
>>
>>171902264
It's 9 with Octarine and level 25 dumbass.
>>
>lose early game
>recover mid game cause I'm bounty hunter and full 5 man enemy team wipe with track gold
>proceed to lose late game because team streams out 1 by 1 in a jungle with no vision while a slark runs around with silver edge skadi echo basher
>omg why no wards
>cause there's a fucking slark with silver edge skadi echo basher you fuckwit, same reason you fucking died
>lose

Why are people so fucking bad at playing against slark. It boggles the mind how he can be so infamous yet most people have no idea how to play against him.
>>
This guy walks into your game and says his carrys have lost him 400 mmr

what do
>>
>sny buff
Time to spam my boy jah'rakal.
>>
>gain more mmr
>teammates get worse and worse

dotards???
>>
>Phoenix: Level 15 Talent increased from +50 Fire Spirits DPS to +65

buffing what's already op lmao
another free streaks for my boys phoenix pickers
>>
>>171905740
phoenix offlane is the real cancer of this patch next to centaur

stupid buff
>>
>>171858707
>Broodmother: Insatiable Hunger lifesteal increased from 60/90/120% to 60/100/140%
>Broodmother: Insatiable Hunger damage increased from 60/90/120 to 60/100/140
Why?
>>
I am so tired of playing from behind every FUCKING game

Someone instantly calls a core position, and literally just suck dick. My mid feeds the other mid, my safe lane can't control the lane. Etc. How do i make it stop
>>
>>171906865
play mid

and if someone else picked mid first, pick carry

then don't be shit
>>
>>171907103
I've tried that

For example, i am carrying in the game currently playing. My mid Bloodcyka lost mid lane HARD to a tinker and that tinker is ripping us apart
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>>171906865
Don't play cuck supports like dazzle and cm
>>
>LULBA
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>watching TI6 videos because i missed it
>siractionmeme sitting with a qt
>''What team are you hoping takes this game three?''
>digigitlcakedeeos
i was NOT prepared for that shit
>>
>>171907978
SOMEONE POST OUR AUTISM-CHAN
>>
>>171905740
That's so much fucking damage, it was already +200 damage, now it's another 60 on a skill that did 280 damage to start with, AND can be used 4 times.
If you land all 4 that's one of the highest damaging spells in the game now, only behind scaling spells like Necro Delet or Skywrath ult.
>>
+4 FOUR TREANTS
>>
>>171908573
With his level 25 doubling their hp/attack that's actually a pretty decent skill.
But I'm sure most shitters will just feed another 120 gold with it while Bulldog continues to cream his pants on stream.
>>
>None of SingSing's heroes got buffed
Uh, dotards?
>>
>>171908757
At least none were nerfed
>>
>>171908757
When will sing shitters kill themselves?
>>
>>171908848
Fuck you. spG.singsing.int will alway be my favorite doter
>>
reddit is down
>>
Sperm collector hero when?
>>
>>171904175
Not him but I swear Dota players don't understand the concept of hyperbole. You included.
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Yeah i don't think i am ever playing NA servers again

It's literally cancer. Every game is "CTMR ESPANOL JAJAJA" or afk feed/jungle/throw
>>
reddit is up
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>>171910472
just a game bro, if you want to ruin it go ahead.
>>
how do you counter rad shiva armlet octarine manta bot alch at min 25? preferably not with aa/specific hero
>>
>>171910080
i'm sure some dota players understand hyperbole, no need to exaggerate
>>
>>171910701
By not feeding him all the gold he needs to get those items by 25?
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>>171910701
play kotl
rush force staff
ruin alches positioning and mana with two quick casts.
>>
Umi is lewd.
>>
What semi-carry doesn't fall off after 50 min?
>>
>>171911283
Abaddon, get aghs/vlads/assault
>>
the sideshop slippers change is honestly the worst thing icefrog has ever done

as a safelane carry player i'm fucking crying
>>
>>171911283
weaver, assuming you're laning him off/position 3 farm
>>
>>171911283
Pos3 Magnus
>>
>>171911283
silencer
>>
WHERE'S MY ORACLE ARCANA ICEFROG
>>171911360
radiance
>>
>>171907405
>mid bs
Wtf? Why did you even allow that to happen?
>>
>>171913138
>mid BS
Last pick surprise pick
>>
>>171913317
Don't let him go mid then. Especially against a tinker
>>
>>171891624
Broodmother

I just want my babies to have a good life. At least I have deathprophet
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What items do you pin /d2g/?
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>>171891624
Zeus. I get all the kills and create all the space, but my team never wants to push any advantage.
>>
>alchemist doesn't buy an armlet
>Alchemist doesn't even get a fucking manta after radiance
>Entire team can use Aghs

Number one sign a games over is when alchemist doesn't buy an armlet.
>>
Is anyone else getting raped by 5 man again? I feel like the TP nerf really just let them go wild.
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https://www.dotabuff.com/players/36057096
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/146629043

2011-12-26
to
2017-2-27

good night sweet prince
>>
>>171854261
The radiant comp isn't great, but there's lots of early game, push and sustain. I imagine they probably effectively won about 30 mins.
>>
>>171914854
The game is in a team fight oriented patch, and has been for a while. However, with the nerfs to TP and towers, split pushing is viable, but you'll be run down by their 5 man if you dont fight with your team
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>>171915438
>Preceding question not placed above reply
HOLY FUCK I AM SO TRIGGERED RIGHT NOW
>>
Dota needs an Android hero.
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>>171915438
whatever happened to greaves tinker
why didnt it get popular
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>>171915731
im tilted just watching that
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>>171915731
damnit I'm so tempted to reinstall dota just to do this
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Why do Leshrac, Brewmaster, and Beastmaster have some of the lowest pick rates now? All three are below 2%.
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>>171914316
>0 damage illusions
>but muh splitpush
>but muh farm vaccuum
Armlet can be situational too.
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So I started my climb out of my horrid sub 1k calibration for solo ranked. Ran into a party of like fucking nothing, with solo of 4k and my question is, can you grind solo mmr while in a party? I doubt it but it wouldn't be the stupidest thing seen in dota 2 as far as mechanics so I thought i'd ask.
Also those guys were total dicks in my match, one of the worst spirited players I ever encountered in Dota.
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>>171915731
This shit is proof for why disabling items on certain heroes is perfectly fine.

I miss the days of blink not working on pudge too.
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>>171916709
>leshrac
too squishy. only works as a support hero now and even then it's a niche pick
>brew
just not good at anything, even if you're skilled enough to play him
>beastmaster
he has one good ability
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>>171914854
What TP nerf are you talking about? I haven't been playing lately
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>>171916810
reminder he had to farm 5000 gold for an item that is complete shit on him probably losing his team the game in the process
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>>171916842
Leshrac can do just about everything in the damn game, he isn't some support bitch. He has huge aoe, great push, and a good stun. With a ghost scepter he shits all over little faggot heroes like slark.
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>>171916748
I have no idea what you're trying to say, buddy.
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>>171916973
>oh no, leshrac is coming!
>bait stun...
>walk away
>stun him once
>dead
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>>171917057
>bait stun
No leshrac who has even a slight clue of how their stun works will miss that thing.

And if they really do suck, they can just get a euls to guarantee it lands.
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>>171917024
Sorry my english is trash as fuck. Lets say I que in a party mmr with a bud, would that also raise/lower my solo mmr based upon the matches outcome?
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>>171917057
>bait stun
>what is action cancel
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>>171917332
>>171917156
alternatively
>land stun
>unless it's on all 5 heroes you get ripped to shreds anyways
any lockdown and this hero gets fucking rocked. he has to be at the center of the fight without being focused or locked down. what does a core lesh build?
>bloodstone
he farms like shit so without early game kills your bloodstone will probably be late. and then you have to be really safe because you really don't want to lose charges.
>euls
only really good for using defensively now, unless you've somehow found a 1on1 matchup in 7.0+.
>ghost scepter/glimmer
imo these are losing items. it's basically like admitting you're a support out of mid. I've seen some lesh's use shadowblade but thats also retarded. ghost scepter is the best choice because it builds into e blade.

the fact is if you want to win with lesh you need bloodstone aghs euls octarine and you basically can't frontline and if you die at the wrong time you lose. I'm a huge lesh fan, I play him mid a lot. He's a lane winner who loses after mid game ends.
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>>171916868
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Can someone explain to me why Abaddon is being fucking slaughtered with all these nerfs?

He's a pubstomper, so the what? So is Omniknight, and not only is Omni a better pick 19/20 times, and his recent nerfs at least didn't completely destroy one of his spells.

Is this Valve just trying to make Abaddon a position 3 again instead of position 4?

Seriously, mist coil is an absolute dogshit spell now.
>>
>8 loss streak in two days

>tfw can't stop sucking

did not sleep tonight
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>>171917589
I've seen that work well on abaddon
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>>171917912
>omni
>pubstomper

not really anymore
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>>171917978
Perhaps you should play an ez win hero? Slark exists for a reason anon. Sometimes you just don't want to give skill to get it and Slark is at the ready to let you.
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pugna remodel when?

it's awful to look at desu
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>>171917912
>>171918075
neither are pubstompers
they have inflated winrates because they
1) are completely braindead to play while still having a good impact, letting trash players succeed on them as opposed to heroes like meepo who need skill
2) are selfless supports, so the team with the omni/abaddon never has no chicken and fighting over mid lane, and is more likely to win from the pick screen
3) doesn't feed relentlessly like other supports

even at his most broken earth spirit had like a 37% winrate
omni and abaddon only had high % because of how retards play them, not how good the heroes themselves are, they were actually mediocre at best, now they're getting slaughtered
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>something like 20 minutes into the game, i am dragon knight with 2k+ hp
>get hit by max level maledict and lvl 3 penitence
>die to single nuke

wew
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>>171918076
my last game with slark was like 2 months ago, i killed people left and right yet no one pushed and we lost

how do i outfarm people being a safelane carry? i feel like i need some advices on farming jungle
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>>171918919
>be DK

found the issue
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>>171919095
Im sub 1k but when I stop pubs I rush midus. I dont play Slark but farm is easy if you just have good map placement. Take lane then swiftly jungle back into lane and rotate to gank, all while taking camps while you run everywhere. Bounties as well. Fuck if your team is pushing dont help until its actually a fight farm around them and be ready to dive bomb in that shit for picks.
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>>171917194
No, why the fuck would it? Where do you think party mmr comes from?
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>>171918162
I'LL TAKE A CRACK ADDICT
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>>171919367
Well it is weird as fuck that you can go solo and get wiped by a 3 stack and lose solo because they had superior communications.
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>>171917580
Are you dumb? After landing his stun and activating ult and edict, leshrac has ZERO need to cast any other spell.
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>>171918278
>omni
>abaddon
>support

this meme needs to die. omni and abaddon are amazing anti-carries, they are not supports.
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>>171918162
i cant find that picture of pugna and enchantress in a bathtub
i want loli pugna though :3
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>>171920252
Pubs still play them as supports.
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>>171920345
i just honestly don't want him to look like a child in a carnival costume, im fine with him being radioactive green skeleton and shit tho
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Uhh dotards?
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>>171920345
have fun faggot
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So if you're above 4k you can just solo queue RD/captains mode at the same time as your friends and get on the same team if you live near eachother.
Easiest winning streak of my life honestly desu.
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>>171920728
lmao
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>>171920345
>enchantress
With that fucking jew nose and retarded ears? Nah senpai i'm content with fucking Lina, Drow,
Winter Wyvern, Wind Ranger, Legion Commander, Kunkka, Luna, Phantom Assassin, Templar Assassin, Vengeful Spirit, Queen of Pain, Pugna, Medusa, Naga Siren, Brood mother, Phoenix, IO
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>>171920449
pubs are retarded faggots

i literally cry every time i see an omni or abaddon waste their gold on a courier or wards
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>>171893507
can't meepo be countered harder from picks though?
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>>171920848
its just that, pugna is very cute in that picture!
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>>171920848
UGLY MUDDY LIZARD FEET
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>>171920696
Reminder NA 7k=SEA 2k
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>>171921498
Don't you fucking dare try to berate my waifu with your degenerate fetish.
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>>171922863
ROUGH SCALY REPTILE FEET
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>>171922863
>2017
>phoenix and ww don't get humanoid forms
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>>171923012
waifushitters don't belong to dota
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>>171923012
They wouldn't be as hot if they were anthro. Go be a fag elsewhere and learn about diversity in sex appeal.
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>>171923342
go be an exclusionist pleb elsewhere. the best girls have a mix of both parts, monster and human. why do you think snek lady is hot? because its down the middle, praise buddha
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>page 10
>last post 55 hours ago
what the fuck
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>>171850094
dead
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Why is windrunner an INT hero?
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>>171926119
It's true that she's agile, but she's even smarter!
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>>171926119
what the fuck? did you just assume her primary stat?
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>>171926493
>gingers
>smart
>>
PETER FUCKING DAGER LAYING THE SMACK DOWN
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BIG DICK PETER
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>>171927326
>>171927515

Peter the Cuckold acting though again.
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>>171927545
tho?
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>>171927545
How about you learn basic English before attempting to banter, Ilya
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>>171927597
>>171927595
How about you go back to sucking his smelly dick, autismos?
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>>171927731
?
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>>171927326
>>171927515
>team that finished 3rd in fucking NA quals deserved invite more than Liquid, VP or DC
???
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>>171927807
The only reason they achieved something is because CDEC were inexperienced at the time. And it is funny how fast people forgot their performance during TI4 or any other tournaments really because they got clowned upon.

But hey its le PEDUR SALD DAGGER haha
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how do i get radiance by 20min, i always get it by 24
>>
game is shit
no esports
no streams

just
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>>171927990
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>>171928015
Watch how others do it and follow
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>>171928836
the others who? you mean watching in-game client matches?
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>>171928015
nab 3 kills early on
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>>171928963
Google how to get radiance in 20 mins and watch any youtube video
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>>171928015
play alch and give away aghs instead
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I just tried Greaves Tinker and it was quite underwhelming. I'd rather go bloodstone if I'm rolling.
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>>171929143
i don't play tinker but i don't understand why people go bloodstone
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>>171929352
because they like wasting money
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>>171929352
Mana regen. Obviously you need the charges for it to work better so I'd build that if I had a good early game and avoid it if not.
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>>171929434
>Mana regen
you need like 40 or 50 charges to get the same regen soul ring gives
the funniest part is when people get another soul ring after bloodstone since they don't have enough mana
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why cant i find the motivation to queue up anymore
all i do is launch dota, stay in the main menu for a few seconds, then exit dota

where did it all go so wrong
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>>171929721
Soul ring gives you instant mana at a cost of your hp so you can only use it so many times in a fight. Bloodstone's regen is continuous so it gives you sustain.
You also replenish faster at fountain with the bloodstone.

Another advantage is the faster respawn which is also good for Tinker.
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>>171929721
with a back back thats not as bad as it was before, but its still dogshit because of the efficiency loss, WHO DOES THIS
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>>171927515
>>171927326
>NP is worth inviting

No wonder this retard got kicked from his own team
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>>171929352
Because you can refresh suicide and thus never give up a kill to the enemy team.
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>>171930087
Wait really?
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>>171930107
just tested it
you actually can
hot damn
>>
what's up coposters?

[x] game still dead
[x] no relevant esports

zzz
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>>171930178
>>171930107
How'd you guys not know that?

w/e you're welcome, enjoy annoying the enemy team.
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>>171927990
>3rd place is being clowned upon
gawd damn that is some salt
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>>171930107
>>171930178
Yes lol? How do people not know about this shit, its beyond me
Another thing you might not know, refresher actually refreshes wk's ult as well!
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>>171930384
>refresher actually refreshes wk's ult as well!
m-masaka
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>>171930384
Callate Pedro
>>
what's up coposters?

[x] game is alive
[x] ti 6.5 this weekend

:DDD
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What are some dota specific virtue signals?
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>>171930673
at the end of a win
>"well played everyone, team effort, commending ALL"
I just assume the guy wants a commend
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>>171930673
chen, earth spirit, meepo first pickers
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>>171930673
The guy who uses perfect spelling and grammar in text chat.
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What color of Terrorblade's arcana should I get so people will stop calling me a homo.
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>>171931110
pink
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>>171930673
Saying that you always buy wards and courier, especially when using it as defense against a core pinging a place and asking for a ward.
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>>171929830
i feel similarly
i just think about completely unrelated things and feel detached

doesn't help i feel my death is approaching, can't help it
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>win 3 games in a row, all stomps
>4th game, bristle goes 8/19 and builds blademail

uhh dotards???
>>
>>171929830
I know the feels my dude

I try to fix it by watching streams, but there are no streams i care about right now
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>>171931410
>4th game, bristle goes 8/19 and builds blademail
that's bad but not ooga booga worthy
you gone for more retarded build and ended up with worse score, did you
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>>171931593
no, but i did jungle a wraith king
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>goodMajor in less in a week
>actualMajor month after it
>greatMajor another month later
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>>171931912
can i get some dates so i can make all three fit in my TIGHT schedule
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>PMS nerf by making it harder to buy

Thank fucking god. That item is absolute cancer tier
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>>171931946
DAC: March 27 to April 4
Kiev Major: April 27 to 30, but they still haven't announced group stage dates yet
Epicenter: June 9 to 11, no information about group stage dates too
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Anon, I need you to gain 500mmr by the end of the month before I can help you.
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>>171932350
thanks !
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>>171932350
>no information about group stage dates too
>Group Stage will be played from June 4th to 7th.
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>>171851367
>Be enemy
>Item suddenly appears
>Item now disappears

Can't explain this shit famalam
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>>171932317
finally brings agi in-line with the other stats at the sideshop
>>
could earth spirit actually use a slight buff?
yeah the hero is pretty popular at high level, but his winrate is rather mediocre in both high level pubs and in comp
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there's no way that dota is a skill based game
everything is just pure rng, individual abilites don't fucking matter in this game

>play sf vs od
>od astrals me entire time like a complete retard so i get more than 30 denies on him from laning stage
>finishing my shadow blade in 12th min along with aquila treads bottle while he gets treads as first item after midas in 16th
>5 0 5
>we take all the t2s on enemy mid and safe
>enemy decides to push our t2 safe, i can't tp there at the moment because i've just finished pushing theirs
>moments ago my nyx bought gem and he instantly loses it
>suddenly i die on slark who ran at me with shadow blade and gem on him
>my troll buys shadow blade
>suddenly noone can do anything because trolls just going to jungle and gets jumped and necro ulted everytime, 12 min arcane midas nyx doesnt have any other items 15 mins later
>enemy od despite being absolutely awful comes out with pike blink, 10 minutes after finishing treads
>at this point he has more networth than me because ive only managed to finish pike in the meantime
>od dives us and gets an ultra kill when enemy slark gets his skadi in 25th
>but at least we have a troll who went second shadow blade after his sny instead of bkb

>we lose in 30 mins despite having 8k xp and gold advantage in 20th, but just by several kills the graphs experience a 10k swing

this game is actually unwinnable alone, i've played tons of games with 6ks and hardly ever was a deadweight but as soon as i play solo on my high 4ks then the games are lost or won regardless of what i possibly do
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>>171933156
get laide?
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>>171933156
who the fuck cares about some subhuman sea monkey streaming, that faggot can only spew "cyka blyat" and "motherfucker" every few seconds
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>>171933298
>playing in a party is better than playing solo
wow who would have thought
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>tfw you have a quarry to settle
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>>171933831
how does it feel like? describe it in ten sentences or less
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>>171933653
sing is way to outgoing to truly represent the majority here
>>
wtf is sing listening to?
>>
>get a jungler on my team
>decide to go solo offlane
>jungler starts farming in the offlane camps
>takes the rune and uses the shrine for himself too

haHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>
>>171930784
>'im commending everyone'
>don't actually commend anyone
>collect free commends

feels good man
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>>171933831
>tfw you settle your quarry
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>buy 2 dac chest
>get this on first try

ha ha suck it d2g
>>
dota handing out some pity hats for your cancer situation
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What hero should I pick if I want to become a better player but I'm already perfect?
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>>171935293

good goyim you got the secret axe set that looks exactly like all the others now buy even more worthless hats
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>>171935293
>low prio

Lmao, you faggot.
>>
>>171935767
earth spirit
you can't master that hero and play him at full potential, period
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>>171935293
POO
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>>171935293
>buying chests while in lp

how much of a KEK are you
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>>171929082
i seriously thought about this
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>>171937205
dont do this if the aghs your team picked are absolute garbage, you will feel betrayed
>don't forget the moonshards too
>>
when to get aghs with sven
>>
> Team NP final direct invite to Manila Masters
what?
>>
>>171926658
cant spell ginger without an N, I, 2x G, E or an R
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>>171930337
Getting shit on hilariously is what clowned upon is, my dear cumlover.
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>>171927326
>>171927515
>Peter the Panzy still mad at Lil for trolling the everliving FUCK out of him 2 years ago

is there anything saltier than PPD ever
this nigger is holding a grudge over twitter trolling
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>>171859610
you're the retard in this story, anon
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>>171859610
>people still pick AA to counter heroes like alchemist
>not just picking something with -armor or Necrophos
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>>171937770
it would be heartbreaking for crowd if local team place last so they invited Envy
>>
>Second game
>Second time jungle hero starts in the offlane camps

what the FUCK is this shit
>>
>>171935293
We're getting really close to Cafrisun and gun WD
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>>171933298
>pick a hero that can farm fast
>lose game because you cant take advantage of the farm
>but muh farm
literally that one Furion comic
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>>171870370
99% of techies players are trash garbage and the team would be better off if they abandoned
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MoM lifestealer
Thought?
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>>171939440
You can't use Infest if you fuck up.
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>>171872589
how?
>>
wtf is sing playing?
>>
>>171940571
No one cares about infest.
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>>171941152
Still a free disjoint+heal if used properly.
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>>171940989
not dota 2 related
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>>171938024
What are you referring to
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>>171941258
You are 3/4k trash, stop pretending you can play.
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>>171941390
what am i at 2.4
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>>171941336
Lil trolling the shit out of peter on twitter
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How do I convince my teammates to let me try unorthodox builds?

I've had great success with mid Lich in unranked pubs, but whenever I do it in ranked some weirdo starts feeding couriers and flaming

This isn't LoL, meta shouldn't be strict
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>"carry or ruin"
>ruins anyway

ebin
simbly ebin
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>>171944263
fuck off Edje
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>>171944263
get 6k mmr and pick whatever you want
>>
MY BOY ARTOURRRRR :'(
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>>171850402
> ancient memes.
> the best team
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What happened to this champion?
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>>171945862
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>>171946237
heh
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>>171945862
struck dead by reddit balance in 6.85
didn't receive a single buff until after TI6 (since he was one of five heroes who wasn't picked there)
he received some small buffs in last half of the year but they are meaningless since his E is still waste of skill points and his shitty autoattack makes last hitting impossible
>>
>Dota 2 General?

More like Dead 2 general

heheh
>>
>Valve teases a 4th spirit in the MK comic
>Already have a fire, earth and air spirit
>TI confirmed to be aguatic-themed

New hero confirmed.
>>
Shrines would be better if they couldn't be teleported to.
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>>171945862
but lesh is fine

>>171947221
no shit
ITS GONNA BE

SUIJIN
THE AQUA/WATER SPIRIT
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>>171947490
Fire, water, earth, storm (technically air?)

Yeah those are the four Chinese elements aren't they?
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>>171947292
you could delete them from the game as well with this kind of change
really all they need is one or two second channeling to activate them to make battles around them not so one-sided and prevent accidental usage of base shrines
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>play pudge duo offlane
>getting harrassed
>hook and rot the support
>suddenly they dont want to fight anymore and try juking out of the aoe
Seriously how can you hate this hero
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>>171947660
I don't really have a problem with shrines being a source of healing, I have a problem of them being so good for map control. You have to play as if the enemy team has tier 1 towers up until you take them out, or you risk overextending and getting wiped from an unwarded angle. It makes early game aggression very risky because of the healing factor too, but the main problem is if you chase someone to a shrine, not only will they heal up to full, you'll probably get 2-3 people teleporting in on your face.

I don't like that, I like how you need to take out a tier 3 to attack the shrines, which I suppose is almost contradictory, but the ability to teleport onto them has always been annoying.
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>>171947292
Shires are fine.
Letting T1 and T2 towers fall for free isn't.
Needing to actively deward around the shire isn't fine, and neither is all the shit ward spot locations around them either.

You also have things like the east Dire shire which is such a pain to "defend" its almost stupid.
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>>171947221
>Valve teases a 4th spirit in the MK comic
They did?
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>>171947490

Suijin, the water spirit, AGI hero

>Q - Water remnant
>Suijin summons a remnant on the ground, takes x sec to form. If an ally takes it, heals the target for X amount and gives X% damage reduction for X seconds. If an enemy takes it, it damages him for X amount and slows him for X amount

>W. Morphism
Suijin can change his primary attributte. takes X seconds to channel. If he's STR, his spells are stronger in terms of damage, slows, stuns, bla bla. If he's AGI, his spells lasts longer and have reduced cast point. If he's INT, spells costs less mana and have reduced CD

I run out of ideas here
HELP ME
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>>171947984
I always warded the north Radiant shrine spot well before it ever had a shrine. It's such an important location.
But yeah these new ward spots are a pain, and the Dire offlane area in general is a pain in the goddamn ass to deal with. You can't cover all entrances with a single ward, Radiant safelane has the same problem. The move around is just fucking awkward to deal with.
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>>171947587
>Fire, water, earth, storm (technically air?)
Technically, fire and storm are the same, because they're plasma
The Chinese can fuck off
It's fire (plasma), earth (solid), water (liquid) and air (gas)
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>>171948126
>E. Water cannon
>Works like power shot in terms of how it travels/cast it. No channeling. Deals X damage, and its effects depends on the distance it hit the target. Can stun or slow. Stuns when its near. It just slows if its farther.

GIVE SUIJIN AN ULTIMATE
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>>171948126
E. Water Spirit
Suijin gains bonus move speed, attack damage and speed, and invisibility when in the river.

R. Tidal Flow
Suijin turns the entire map to water for ten seconds, allowing him to use his passive anywhere on the map. In addition to this, roots all enemy units for 4 seconds when used.
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tfw you settle a quarry
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>rtc 1k votes short from getting into solomid tourney and 1.5k short from getting into all-star match
>voting closed
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>171948806
That E is pretty bad. It'd be mostly irrelevant, if you give him an ability that buffs him while in water he'd need another ability to create water.

Maybe just a second ability on F that levels up in conjunction with E. Higher levels reduce the cooldown and increase the aoe of created water.
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Whats with all these MMR boosting services recently? First thought is who the fuck pays for these shit but considering how frequently they have been appearing I get the feeling lots of people do so because reasns.
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is there a way to see at what skill level you play with an new account?
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>>171921498
>>171922863
>>171922924
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New hero :

Brekkoujin (Breklin), The Water Spirit

Str, Meele

Skill 1 : Splash Assault

Sends a water remnant to jump in the air and perform a ground punch on its target area.
Breklin can switch positions with the remnant making himself do the animation. The water remnant explodes after punching the ground creating a small healing spring while Breklin's punch breaks the ground making it burst water vapor dealing damage and silence.
Breklin heals himself for every enemy unit damaged by the vapor.

Spring duration : 6
Spring heal : 2% + 15/30/45/60
Vapor damage : 100/175/250/325
Vapor Silence duration : 3/4/5/6
Vapor heal rate : 35%
Radius : 250/300/350/400


Cooldown : 19

Skill 2 : Energy Focus
Breklin poses a stance. If not interrupted, he will ascend on his stronger form where he deal more damage.

Damage increase : 40%
Duration : 8
Channel time : 1.37

Cooldown : 40/30/20/10

Skill 3 : Hydrobuster
Charges in a line and whoever is caught will be lift in the air with Breklin and dropped along with him dealing massive damage.

Charge range : 600/650/700/750
Damage multiplier : 200%/225%/250%/275%
Air time : 1.2

Cooldown : 20/18/16/14

Skill 4a : Low Sweep
If target's HP is below the health threshold, the target will be stunned and lie on the ground.
Not affected by aether lens
Sweep range : 225
Stun duration : 2/3/4
Health Threshold : 25%/30%/35%

Cooldown : 14

Skill 4b : Elbow Finisher
Slams a lying target with the user's elbow. Doesn't affect units above health threshold or not lying on the ground.
If a target is successfully killed by this ability, the last ability used before this ability's cooldown is resetted.
Not affected by aether lens.

Damage multiplier : 175%/225%/275%
Cast range : 500/525/550

Cooldown : 14
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>>171952918
uhh, the same way you do with every other account? looking up your games on dotabuff?
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>tfw no toilet slut hero
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>>171953452
>who's Lina
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>>171953050
You fucking degenerate, fuck off back to LoL with your shit taste in fetishes.
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Alright
Who's that dotamon
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>>171954224
natures prophet
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>>171954365
No
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>>171949450
huh?
for what?
when was the vote announced?

I bet its all chinks/SEAmonkeys and miracle that are in it
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>>171954224
lifestealer
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>>171954224
viable beastmaster
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>>171954365
>>171954612
>>171954649
Tricked yooou!
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>>171954224
slark
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>>171954782
yeah we cant tell which one it is with that screenshot dumbass, the identifier is at the top with your name
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>>171953237
>look it up
>see normal skill
yeah really helpful to know that you are in the bracket that ranges from absolute garbage tier to slightly above average.
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>>171955382
It's clearly Dazzle.
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loving this "you cant report enemies" meme

I guess we're just supposed to let the people we play against use scripts now, and only report them if they're on your team

good job with your fucking pendulum balance system valve
next week techies will be removed from ranked I assume
because its too fucking hard for you retards to have a system where you can report cheaters but you cant report enemy cheaters
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>>171955382
Only one of those 10 boxes has a white highlight anon.
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>>171953050
This needs to be vaulted
A supreme meme
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>>171955587
Let me guess using my vast and all powerful mind. That invoker was a 1 button pressing fucking faggot who just insta wiped your shit in because invoker is PA tier ez with scripts.
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Guys how do i buy a starting sny?
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>>171956337
Ask your supports for it
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>>171956337
Have your 4 teammates random, then abandon.
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>>171956337
You buy Sange and Yasha and they combine automatically
The order doesn't matter
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>>171956337
Skip the tangoes
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>>171956337
afk at fountain for forty minutes then buy sny
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>>171955919
Got a link to a good invoker ahk script?
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>Install for one game.
>Feel nothing anymore.
>Uninstall.
IT'S OVER, 7k HOURS AND I CAN'T.
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>>171955919
No, techies was the scripter
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>>171956704
No because im not shitskinned autist who likes to ruin everyone's fun since cause they can't into skill.

>>171956924
links cause a techies script sounds fucking impractical.
>>
>Pudge has one of the highest strength gains
>Also gets FREE strength just for being present in teamfights

what did they mean by this?
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>>171956762
I envy you so fucking much
You're free
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>>171956997
Techies scripts are old as fuck. The script detonates one remote at a time in 0.1 second intervals until it kills whoever triggers it or the mines run out.
It also does it automatically, without your input, so you can afk after placing them and still get kills using the script.
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>>171957142
>>171956997
Video example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlfWQ9snYl8
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>>171957142
don't forget about scripts that forces people into remotes and automatically drops your int/mana items to get maximum from your soul ring and arcanes
>>
why are scripts allowed again
>>
>>171957458
Yeah the vid also shows them using those scripts.
Those kinda scripts were also pretty popular with Storms.
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>>171957651
they're not
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>>171957080
ONE
BASE
ARMOR
>proceeds to buy ghost scepter and shivas
Pssssh....fresh meat....kid..
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>>171957080
>let's buff the shitters' favorite hero to insane degrees so they don't quit our game
>>
>>171943850
I mean the two years ago thing
>>
>>171957447
>old ui
this has been fixed prolly
>>
>>171953124
>Sends a water remnant to jump in the air and perform a ground punch on its target area.
>Breklin can switch positions with the remnant making himself do the animation. The water remnant explodes after punching the ground creating a small healing spring while Breklin's punch breaks the ground making it burst water vapor dealing damage and silence.
>Breklin heals himself for every enemy unit damaged by the vapor.
no
stopped readin right tehere

wtf is wrong with reddit
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>Valve let someone cheat to 10k.
Why i don't play this game any more.

Amount of scripts/hacks and shit is just insane and Valve are the laziest company ever.
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>>171958164
I've literally never once encountered someone cheating in thousands of games. Are you sure you aren't just bad anon?
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>>171958106
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>>171880089
This, first time I ever bought a battlepass was last year's TI and I made more money out of it then I spent, and having almost zero knowledge on battlepasses too,.
>>
>>171888603
>>171888926
Don't worry he's getting the Arc Warden treatment, huge nerfs initially but small buffs over time till he's decent.
>>
>>171958164
you can say that you really never played any cheat-ridden online games
and hacks aren't really strong in dota, no cheat can unretard you if you are garbage player
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>>171958164
have you ever played a non-vac secured game?
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Why is the latest patch so BAD what is wrong with ICEFROG
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>>171938698
Someone post it.
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>>171960009
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>>171960009
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Since everyone's posting their dumb hero ideas here's mine. Tell me how shit it is.

Psi Master
Ranged Intelligence Radiant Hero
15 Str +1.4 - 17 Agi + 2.7 - 38 Int + 4.0

Q - Mindblast
Deals pure damage based on Psi Master Intelligence
Base damage: 50/80/110/140
Int Multiplier: 50%/75%/100%/125%
100/120/140/160 Mana - 12/11/10/9 Cooldown

W - Levitate
Psi Master gains flying movement and vision as well as increased movespeed over the duration
Duration: 4/5/6/7
Bonus Speed: 30/40/50/60
120/130/140/150 Mana - 10 Cooldown

E - Backlash
Each attack against the Psi Master causes the attacker to suffer a magical backlash. Ranged attackers suffer half the damage.
Damage: 20/30/40/50
Mana Drained per Hit: 40/50/60/70

R - Overwhelm
Blasts a target unit with an overwhelming mental energy. The unit takes damage based on Psi Master's intelligence and is muted, silenced and slowed briefly.
Base Damage: 150/225/300
Int Modifier: 100%/150%/200%
Move & Attack Slow: 40/50/60%
Duration: 3/3.5/4

*can be purged with strong dispels
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>>171960170
>>171960276

Still accurate to this day, NP's are most of the time useless and only ever good with Lycan push strats.
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>>171960657
The last 3 NPs I played with did nothing but teamfight and gank and only splitpushed when the enemy team was dead or occupied but no fights happened.
It was terrifying, felt like I'd stumbled into some bizzaro dota. They all bought Sheepsticks and none of them got a Silver Edge or even a Shadowblade.
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>>171960307
I guess I should specify, in case someone is confused. The mana is drained from the Psi Master, and it's a passive he can toggle on or off.
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>>171960787
For me even when the NP is being proactive around the map, we still lose/win depending if he's on our team or the enemy team. He's just a overall useless hero
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>>171960307
wow an actual good non-league hero, even if some number are retarded
wtf dotards
>>171960657
well of course he would be useless if he farms like faggot all day
furion is one of the strongest heroes early on, very capable lane bully and teleport is every ganker wet dream
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>go to make my first webm in like 6 months
>dxtory doesn't work in dota now

wtf
>>
>>171961016
I actually have experience with balance and shit. i used to make board games as a kid.
What kinda numbers do you think are retarded though?
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>>171961183
>dxtory
Jesus grandpa get with the times, its obs all the way now
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>>171961249
Q is literally badArcane bolt, roughly same damage but much worse cooldown, also you forgot to specify range
if it pierces bkb then it's probably OK, though i don't like an idea of non-ults that do that
W downtime is too low, you can literally fly all day if you buy octarine
E looks fine
you didn't specify ult cooldown, range and mana cost, if it doesn't have long downtime at higher levels then you should probably make purgeable with normal dispel, if it is then it's fine
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>>171956762
>come to /d2g/ still

you can take the boy off of dota, you can't take dota out of the boy.
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>>171960657
every game I have NP I just know he is going to buy bloodthorne and right click the enemy carry 40 minutes in for no damage.
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>>171962789
at least furions in you games actually buys useful items and fight enemies, because in my games they start with a glove of haste into cliffjungle into midas and shadowblade into splitpushing when no enemy seen on map into dying like a retard and being a gold pinata for other team
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>>171957945
Well, it was two years ago
>>
>>>/wsg/1607949
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>>171962513
I didn't want to make Q be OP. I thought a talent idea would be extra Int or Mindblast pierces spell immunity.

W is supposed to have a low cooldown. His base move would be low.
>>
Queen of pain more polygons on ass when
>>
what's the point of supporting
i'd rather be cucked at least i have a gf then

when is icefrog going to remove supporting, everybody should just play a carry
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>>171962513
>>171965331
Oh yeah and ult. I was thinking it'd be around 100 seconds, 200/350/500 mana.
Aghs would reduce the cooldown and make it do pure damage, similar to Linas I suppose.
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>>171965751
>>171965751
>>171965751
Memegrate
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Who the fuck aggro offlanes in 2017

>>171965793
>7 memes early
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>>171850402
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