/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>171838612
>confused boner.jps

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Man these Skeletons are something. How do they have so much power without any muscles?

Also I feel like, I'm playing like a retard since my +6 Warpick deals less damage than, Dark Hand.

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>>171838612
>Nashandra's ham sandwich

Is now blessed by gravelord Nito

>>171838815
>WHERE THE HOOD WHERE THE HOOD WHERE THE HOOD AT

Planing on making a DEX/INT build and a DEX/ FTH build. I also want to use a curved sword for one and a rapier on the other. Which should go on which?

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>>171838815

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How can walls be real if our eyes arent real

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SOON
O
O
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>>171838903
rapier on Dex/int because crystal sage rapier has range for days

use sellsword twinblades on faith for lightning blade buff multihit spinny shit

redpill me on pyromancy

>>171838974
Quelaag transcends the physical realm
>>171839015
see anons webm and add the occasional black flame/black serpent spam and that's basically it also Onyx blade if ur a casul

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>>171839015
It's fun.

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dafuack?

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damn

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>dual door greatshields are shit
why

>>171839197
Too obvious.

>>171839214
i wanna warm my hands under her shoulder cap thingy.

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>45/45 int faith

So, how come Cleric's Sacred Chime is the best buffing shit ??? It outperforms Yorshka, Canvas, Saints etc all chimes and catalysts for buffing at 45/45 how come?

Also, jesus fuck, at 45/45 Crystal chime is waaaaay better for offensive miracles than the other crap.

>>171839223
The gamespot tester just didn't have the Stats to use them. Relax.

>>171839197
Not blurry enough.

>>171839223
sauce

>>171839113
I love hosts who don't level vig.

>>171839197
explain this photoshoppery senpai? Is this true?

>the fire in the shrine background

>>171839214
This sounded nice even tho I wasn't paying attention.

>>171839413
because 45/45 is a much higher stat investment than 60?

>>171839562
But Cleric's Sacred Chime scales ONLY with FTH...and it scales A, but it outperforms others with S scaling, along with A/A scaling.

HOW?

>>171839483
Trying too hard.

>>171839635
because of base values? usually, something with S scaling becomes better at higher levels in order to balance its power. it's not about 45/45, it's that it's the best at 45

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This thread now belongs to dragonsis

>>171839635
Casting cap is 60 yo.

>>171839635
>along with A/A scaling
Weapon buff spells do not gain dual scaling on the Crystal Chime.

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>>171839223

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Can anyone tell me which GS was he using? Also how good are GS one handed that isn't Wolf / Onyx.

>>171839876
that is some straight up DaS2 tier shockwaves holyshit

Earthen Keep > elevator > Iron Keep makes no fucking sense.

>>171839971
You're like 3 years late, friend.

>>171839909
BKS. Onehanded greatswords are the new straight swords unfortunately. They're much better twohanded but retards can still get away with 1h R1 mashing.

>>171839909
black knight sword

their shit

>>171839909
black knight sword

>Also how good are GS one handed
they're ss with about 100 more AR for a few frames less speed, pretty decent against anyone but a parryking

>>171839827
I want to eat that ass until I start growing scales

>>171840076
Fuck off, Seath

>>171840012 >>171840013 >>171840037
Thanks Senpais. Haven't played this game for months. Only came back because FH is Shit and I learnt new patch were buffing all Ultras~. Maybe Great Mace won't be as shit as it used to be.

>They're ss with about 100 more AR
What about range? Don't SS have almost same phantom range as GS though?

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>>171840161
Even ornstein agrees

>>171840195
>What about range? Don't SS have almost same phantom range as GS though?

they have pretty much the same range yeah, but the main thing is that the GS does way more damage for being only a few frames slower.

>>171840195
Phantom range is an effect of latency. Almost all weps get phantom,it's just more noticeable on faster spam weps

>>171840161
Fuck you, you're going to jail.

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>>171840320
>Phantom range is an effect of latency.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-fplak7u44

try again

50 INT with 10 more levels for STR/DEX or 60 INT with 7/12 and just use the Rapier?

Is avelyn a viable bow for any build or does it need a certain scaling?

>>171840643
>avelyn
>a bow

>>171839950
>DaS2 tier shockwaves
not even comparable

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What a guy
>>171840391
>putting the keykeeper right outside my cell
>not taking my shit
do you WANT me to escape and fuck you entire archives up?

>>171839875
What? Really?
What does benefit from the combined scaling?

>>171840842
>has his own unique sitting gesture complete with a "stowing weapon" animation
>we get 4 different sitting gestures that all have clipping issues with 70% of the armors

>>171840898
Dark spells.

i.e. shit.

>>171841041
Oh you don't know what you're talking about, thanks. Had me worried for a moment

>invading worlds
>come across a host with the name of "Senpai"
>time to kill some weebs.wav
>he's crouched in a corner with a purplebro called "Kohai" next to him
>wave
>no respose
>another red invades
>wait for backup as i sit in front of them
>they're still just staring at me
>red shows up and heads towards them
>kohai beats the shit out of him with some of the best parries i've ever seen
>prepare to get my shit wrecked
>senpai stands up and moves to the fire
>summons a sunbro and goes back to the corner, kohai still watching over him
>use white branch, maybe the purpbro has some mindgames going on to kill the host
>sunbro walks straight up to them
>gets next to senpai and kohai unloads all over him
>he is kill
>sit in my chameleon and watch this keep happening whenever someone gets close to senpai for 10mins before black crystaling out

I fucking love this game sometimes

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So uh

anyone got stat numbers on this thing with chaos infusion?

>>171841157
It gets dual scaling on magic and lightning damage sorceries and miracles. It does get dual scaling on dark shit but it doesn't even properly boost them so the difference is fuckall.

Pretty rich that you'd tell someone they don't know what they're talking about when you were just the one floundering like a jackass and asking people to explain things to you.

>>171841535
yeah, just go to mugen

>>171841314
Sometimes pvp isn't shit

>>171841041
>not spamming sunlight spears with crystal chime

heh you cute.

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>Great Swamp and Witches Rings
>fire clutch ring
>Chaos bed vestiges and 20/10 int/faith
Christ I'm melting the fuck out of everything. The dancer was a joke with me casually taking off 10% per vestige.

>>171842045
>fire clutch ring

madman, that shit is near suicide

>try to run away from dogs
>they keep teleporting towards me
WHY

>>171842167
Bark...
nuthin personel, humin

Nice, Lightning Stake one shots Lothric Knights with 60 Faith and Morne/Firstborn rings; that's over 1000 HP

>>171842167
Working as intended™

>>171842167
I fucking hate dogs in this game so much. The constant stagger and running circles around me is infuriating.

>>171842280
How are Storm and Stake now after the new patch?

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>>171839015
It was used by some cool people
Now you're a fully fledged pyromancer

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>>171842167
my favorite part of this straight up lazy programming is that if you spin your camera around fast enough you can actually see them spawn in in the air and fall back to the ground.

>>171839015
Almost as cool as Sunlight Spear

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>resort to cheesing Yhorm to keep mah niggy, Siggy, alive for one final toast
>this cuntrag has to go in the way and interrupt us
FUCK
YOU

>>171842167
If you run along a level boundary you can get them to teleport outside of it and die.
Sometimes they just teleport back on top of you though.

>>171842614
I don't get it.

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*blocks you're path*

>>171842614
just warp back, he'll still be there

>>171842725
*passes over you*
>>171842748
he wasn't, only the items

>>171842679
If yhorm is the last LoC you kill, then Emma interrupts the end of siegward's quest and teleports you away. He's dead if you return so it just cockblocks you out if the dialogue with him.

>>171842827
Not in my experience. The cutscene doesn't start until after he finishes toasting you and wishes you luck.

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>>171842725

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>want to mule shit to my new Dex/Int character on PC
>the process will involve at least 12 weapons (15 if I can somehow find a way to bump up Fai by a single point on this 120 build), 2 catalysts, 9 sets and 15-20 rings

I don't even know if I can find anyone on /dsg/ who's patient enough to bear with me for that long.

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This thread, as well as Nashandra's ham sandwich, are now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.

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>>171842976

>>171840898
The Crystal Chime combined scaling is for everything apart from weapon buff spells. Weapon buffs only scale off one stat, even the dark buffs.

>>171842976
I've got nothing better to do, I'll help you out

>>171842976
>12 weapons
>dex/int

excuse me?

>>171843059
Given how ban waves have worked in the past, I'm not even going to touch that shit.

I've done UGS
I've done 2rap
I've done kat/rap

What next?

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>>171843265
magic

>>171843265
>Int build
>Fth build
>pyro build
Choose one

>>171842976
>12 weapons
>int/dex

Which ones

>>171842389
>The constant stagger and running circles around me is infuriating.

They get stunned if you block with a shield. Also fire works well.

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>>171843265
Lads i'm starting to think that maybe I'll never get to suck off Pontiff

>>171842976
Give me your name and location and I'll steal all your stuff on various alts.

>>171843121
Thanks. I just need to catalogue some shit and remove Ember on this character so that I'm not interrupted, then I can start moving shit at the High Wall bonfire. Gimme a few minutes.

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>>171843391
sneaky beaky

>>171843392
>faith build
It's shit.
>int build
It's ok but damage never hits orgasmic heights with respect to the investment needed.
>Pyro build
Rough early start but once you get Chaos Bed vestiges you've won the game. I'd go as far as to call it overpowered. And with TRC adding the demon scar and AoA adding Onyx Blade, you're not hurting on the melee side.

>>171843217
banwaves have no consistency, but you do what you want.
cheated on 2 accounts, the 2nd got banned in the 4th banwave and unbanned a week later

>>171843526
Sounds good, just remember to set the pass to dsg.

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>tfw no dungeon type of thing in DS3 like in BB

I remember how much fun spelunking with /bbg/ was, kinda hoped DS3 had something similar

>>171843541
>faith build
>It's shit.

Lightning stake and point blank sunlight spear is pretty fun in invasions. They are also really fun to use in pve.

>>171843541
>Stake
>Storm
>muthafucken Sunlight Spear

>shit
U fookin' wot, m8? Granted, it sucks until you get Stake, especially as your lightning spears do precisely fuck all until about that point in the game where you get RotSFB and level faith a bit

>>171843828
The idea that anyone competent gets hit by miracles is funny to me

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>>171843718
>implying dsg is half as chill or competent as bbg

>>171843541
>It's ok but damage never hits orgasmic heights with respect to the investment needed.
Dude, have you ever used CSS while wearing all the shit? It nukes everything.

You're right about pyro though. It's fucking cray cray

can anybody thats beaten nioh tell me if the later half of the game is good. I lost interest after the cool frog boss cause the combat was going nowhere and the levels were getting really boring.

>>171843927

You can exchange something like Stake with a weapon, and you'll do more damage.

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you can't fight what you can't see

>>171844059
I'm sure you'll enjoy the optional meme area of that dlc.

>>171843927
>see caestus
>roll into them and bait them into parrying
>hit them in the face with a point blank lightning/sunlight spear
It's delicious when it connects.

>>171839197
HE'S BACK

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>>171843718
Dark souls 3 really could do with a chalice dungeon to go diving for slabs and covenant handins for.

>>171843927
It's invasions m8. Hosts and phantoms are dumb. Hosts(especially phantoms) have shit hp at SL 90 invasions for some reason.

Also it's easy to trade sunlight spear and stake with even decent players using big weapons.

>>171843960
I have and it's good but pyros damage is even better for less investment/equipment.

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why did they do it

why did those fucking cuck faggot hotdog-riders turn my perfect swordfu into a fucking surfboard god fucking dammit i fucking hate everything

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>>171839197

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>>171844169
>>171843718
>liking chalice dungeons
Go move to Korea or something

>>171844240
its not about grinding shit, its just fun and comfy to explore and fuck around with buds anon

>>171844203
Nice toothpick fag. Glad you got fucked over

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>>171844240
stay mad, I'd prefer getting my +2 rings and extra slabs without going to NG+

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:thinking:

>>171844292
never speak to me or my leo ring ever again

How much spell buff does the CSS have at 59 INT?

>>171844203
>>171844292

Also

Tarkus is a fag

>>171843927
trading through large weapons is easy when you have talisman hyperarmor. Nailing someone with Storm while they try to roll around me has won me a great many duels too

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I feel, I just got assaulted by Silver Knights.
Anyways, I cannot choose whether to turn my +6 Fire Mace to Heavy one and turn my +6 Warpick to Fire one or just keep them as it is.. I already have Dark Hand for, Dark Damage.

It slightly annoys me I cannot buff Warpick and use it's WA at same time so it seems like a good elemental weapon.

>>171844407
Tomorrow we will find out that this sword isn't in the second dlc

>>171844368
none

>>171844407
dont use split damage at all, just throw firebombs

>>171844472
Why would it be ?

>>171844478
Damn, S scaling is stronger than i thought, 59-60 INT takes you from 0 to 238 spell buff?

>>171844403
Lucky me I prefaced with "competent".

>>171844186
You're right, I've just started invading at 60 and the level of play is staggeringly bad. Very few gank squads either which is nice

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where the fuck did this dog swooce in from

>>171844407
Use dark damage against silver knights.

>>171844592
you asked about the CSS, not a catalyst dummy, spells dont have spell buff

>>171843636
All right, pass is set. I'll drop a red sign, look for Ronin Kagura, I'll just drop all my shit and then BC out. Don't have Red Sign yet on the low-level character though, so I'll have to summon you to drop the other shit (sorry for the inconvenience). If you get summoned by Harbingess Naomi, it's the right character.

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Any guesses for the last dlc entrance?

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>>171844573
I like to keep a backup weapon handy. I don't have enough stats to go for pure physical atm. Dark Hand has highest dps for me sadly.

>>171844669
Dark Hand? Also it seems fire is stunning them though.

>>171844706
ur mums cooter

>>171844692
Court Sorcerer Staff, not Crystal Soul Spear.

does the dlc really hit at 1am Tuesday Adelaide time?

that would be perfect

>>171844658
>You're right, I've just started invading at 60 and the level of play is staggeringly bad. Very few gank squads either which is nice


It's fun to kill white phantoms in two buffed dragonslayer axe hits or in one sunlight spear trade. They die in one hit if they are mages.

>>171844706
Dancer's dark ring.

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>>171844707
>25vit

what did he mean by this?

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>>171844668
WEW LAD

>>171844697
Cool, I'm going there now.

>>171844578
Cause it's got an unfinished moveset in the game and they said a beloved weapon was returning

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>players who stand still with cestus offhand
>MLG players who do the same but with their back to you just like those cool youtubes montages

How do you like to punish this behaviour?

>>171844835
yuuko go away

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>>171844706
a golden golem will spawn in Farron keep and after reloading the area a giant hand will come out of a dark portal and drag you into the DLC

>>171844803
I fell for the dex meme myself. +6 quills with resin is fucking ridiculous

>>171844668
It's the summon big dog ability they have

>>171844959
Delayed R2?

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>DaS2 gets 3 great DLC expansions
>DaS3 gets 1 and a half
Explain this.

>>171844959

Shit or poison knives

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>>171844959
walk up and lighting storm, dung pie, throwing anything, charged r2 3 pixels outside of their hitbox range then clap.

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>>171844959
by shoving my pyro flame up their ass and filling them with black flame

>>171845097
C-Team.

>>171844959
I press Y and continue pummelling them with my Demon's Greataxe

>>171844697
I'm leaving my sign as a white phantom. Name should be kk4.

>>171845097
>3 great DLC expansions
They were okay at best - compared to the shitshow that is DaS2 main game.

>>171844835
Who this QT? Also, I just went with Vit first because I thought elementals would be able to carry me over till Soul of Cinder (Not counting DLC and NK), and It was fun to Trade R1's with people up until Catacombs.

>>171844397
>that spoiler
True, but you're a fucking liar if you think the dks 2 Greatsword is better than the dks 1 version

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>>171844959
run straight at them and just keep running, rubbing against them as they parry and then frantically roll away

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>>171845097
>DaS2 gets one bad DLC, one mediocre DLC, and one slightly-above-mediocre DLC
>DaS2 is also an inherently worse game
>both good games of the trilogy only have one

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>>171845438
I fucking love that helmet

>>171845574
BB is not part of the trilogy, though.

Why Black Flame > Great Combustion?

ungodly fast enemies like the flame lizards are so retarded

>>171845787
Having some dark damage means you have a bit of variety on how you cook people. I believe dark resistance is less common than fire, too

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Hmmmm....
>>171845728

>>171845787

More damage. Dark damage. More Poise damage with Parting Flame (leading to even more damage). And it's black.

>>171844959
>players who stand still with caestus offhand
Literally just walk up and kick them into an R1. If they partial parry the kick they lose all of their stamina and take 2 R1s to the face. If they get staggered it's a free instability R1.

>MLG players who do the same but with their back to you just like those cool youtubes montages
Dung pie

If they roll, they rolled because they thought it was a firebomb and look like a panicking retard.
If they don't roll they take a dung pie to the forehead and get fucking furious.

>>171844697
Should be everything, I checked twice. But check yourself in case I overlooked something.

>>171846067
>Ya boy Vaati
>Ever not relevant to this general

>>171845323
You're a huge fucking lifesaver, thank you! Also thanks for helping me with that invader, this was why I was going to ask for a red sign since I was going to remove Ember so that we wouldn't be interrupted.

>>171845949
>Vaati Plays Warlord.
>Got 3-0'd by a Lawbringer

Ha.

>>171845949
So Vaati plays this shit, nowadays ?

>>171846153
It did spice up the muling though. I might need to mule over some stuff myself once I get done with my ng+2 run tomorrow. Figured helping someone else would boost my chances of finding someone to help me.

>>171838815
holy shit

>>171846274
If I see someone who needs help, I'll be sure to help them. Least I can do. Thanks again.

I might start up a second character soon, so I can have a sunbro faith build and a hollow pyro, so I can be your angle or yuor devil.

Why do peeps generally use Vestiges over Chaos Orb? Is it because it casts faster or something? It looks like it does when I go up against pyros

>>171846446
It casts really fast, so if you catch someone sipping in an invasion you can pretty much delete any health they recovered, and then some.

>>171846446

Faster casting. Lower damage though. If you're a free-aiming wizard, go Chaos Orb.

>>171846446
It's stronger, bigger, consumes almost the same FP and i feel like it's a bit faster.

>>171846446
Easier to hit with

>>171846567
>Lower damage

>>171846595
>stronger

>>171846446
Easier to aim as it flies straight, and will delete health bars. Chaos fire orb is like health bar deletion +1 but not worth the extra trouble trying to hit them AND make them take the lava damage

What are the odds that the silver knight sword and spear will be dlc weapons?

>>171846524
>>171846567
>>171846595
I wish it wasn't 3AM here because I really fcking want to start it up and play now. I've played pyromancy before and I was really good with it even before all the buffs it's been given lately. I could even rely on Sacred Flame to win against aggressive players and anything slow. Onyx Blade especially is really cool from what I've seen.

Where's the best place for some pvp these days? I want to have some fun before doing my NG+ shit.

>>171846789
Literally zero percent

NEVER EVER

Chaos Bed Vestiges is weaker than Great Chaos Fireball but only of the enemy gets hit by the lava pool after the initial impact. As far as just the impacts are concerned, Vestiges is stronger. And since against people they're likely to roll after getting hit, you're better off going with vestiges.

>>171844706

A new door in the kiln, if you dont have the dlc you cant open the door and therell be nothing behind it for wallhackers to cheat into.

>die once on a new build
>get angry and lose all motivation to continue playing

Just.

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What's the Dark Souls 2 meta? Every fucker I fight seems to chug estus in 0.1 seconds

>>171846824
Pontiff's backyard

>>171846446
unless you are this man https://youtu.be/ylIXhcVAP08?t=39

use vestiges

>>171846524
>>171846567
>>171846595
>>171846732
Are fire/dark clutch rings worth wearing in pvp? I know they melt pve but the boost they give is nerfed in pvp right? Am I better off wearing sage and favor or something?

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>>171847110
chug adptability into your stats

>>171847290
Whats your current ring set-up?
Sage is almost a must on casters, dont bother with clutch rings; their boost is not worth the defense loss at all

>gargoyle flame hammer has shit WA but C in STR and D/D
>gargoyle spear has good WA but is D in STR and D/D

Which one is worth it more honestly? I can forgive the spear being D when its got a huge hitbox and a good WA but anyone with personal experience in either?

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Speaking of pyromancies, which are the suggested/must have for any build? I leveled up my attunement to have 5 slots but now i'm starting to regret it because of how useless most of them feel.

>Fire orb / Great chaos fire orb
Vestiges is better so now point on using them.

>Bursting fireball
Feels too weak.

>Fire surge
Shit.

>Fire whip / Fire storm / Chaos storm / Sacred flame
Please backstab me.

>Profaned flame
Not enough damage and range.

I currently have Vestiges, Power within and Flame arc equipped and i don't know what else should i add.

>>171847290
Pyros use both pyromancy boosting rings, sage ring, and personally I use darkmoon ring for extra slots but that ringslot is really down to preference. Clutch rings are shit in PVP so don't waste your time

>>171847390
Witch, Swamp, F/D clutch, Sage. Maybe chloranthy or favor for stamina. Casting uses up a lot of stamina

>>171846673
Explosion+Lava leads to more overall damage.

>>171847290
Generally you don't wear Clutch rings in PvP, because of what you just said. Getting your cast speed to max is much more important, so unless you have 40-50 Dex, Sage Ring is effectively mandatory.

>>171847226
fucking legend

>>171847473
>Fire surge
>Shit.

no you are just shit

>>171847390
Not him but i have:
>Chloranthy ring
>Witch ring? (pyro boost)
>Swamp ring? (pyro boost)
>Sage ring

Is this a good set-up?

>>171847403
What kinda build you running?
Unless its pure STR the spear is better because of range&speed

>>171847473
I recommend:
>Vestiges OR GCFO(Free-aim wizard only)
>Black Flame(Shotgun spell)
>Black Serpent(Set-up for vestiges/orb+harrasment)
If you have a 5th slot i'd say slot in Fire Surge

>>171847536
Swap out the clutch for Favor in my opinion

>>171847473
You need Black flame as it's good for both pvp and pve. Black serpent is useful for pvp.

Since you have that many slots anyways, maybe you could slot some sorceries or miracles in?

>>171847473
PVE: Chaos Orb, Sacred Flame, Profaned Flame, Black Flame
PVP: Black Flame, Fire Surge, Vestiges

so heres a question, since the PS3 cant take screenshots unless the game is programmed to:

can Demon's Souls take screenshots?

>>171847652
Im 30 STR/ 30/30 FTH/INT soon, Im mainly using demon fists and witch locks but I wanted something as backup for ganks or turtleshitters, so I got both the hammer and spear but yeah considering range and speed spear is most likely a better pick, the gap in AR isnt too big at least

>>171847473
>vestiges is better
>>171847226

Fire surge is literally on every pyromancer build

Black Serpent is far too fast to backstab unless you're rubbing dicks with the enemy

Black Flame is by far pyro's most dangerous spell due to it coming out literally instantly with Parting Flame

>DaS1 babbies still mad about DaS2 being the better game
amusing

>>171847473
Fire Surge is the ultimate chip damage tool and finisher of low health enemies.

Sacred Flame has tracking, some hyperarmor so the latter stages of the animation can be traded for the grab, does a fuckload of damage

Whip is okay, mostly for catching those charging at you.

Someone tell me how to use Combust/Black Flame because it's apparently a staple now but I could never use it right

>>171847473
Lose power within, acquire black flame, black serpent and flame surge. Flame surge is completely unpunishable so the low damage is inconsequential because it is 100% free. Sacred flame is fun and I also run toxic mist as both a smokescreen for my next cast and area denial if I need to back off / bottleneck. Black serpent is used in a similar manner. In fact I'd go as far as to say that as a pyromancer you basically goal is using most of your spells spells to control your opponents movements so you can improve the chance of getting the big spell to hit.

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>>171847782
>Opening this box again
DO NOT

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>hollow infusion is dogshit damagewise
>lucks effect on bleed is negligible
>poison is doshit no matter what
>cold isn't even affected by luck

I just want to be lucky...

>>171847473
>>Fire surge
>Shit.
The fuck are you talking about?

>>171847630
Personally i prefer Favor over Chloranthy but thats up to preference; the other 3 are standard pyro loadout and the most important ones really.

>>171847851
Luck is only usable when you want to farm for items you need or covenant items and thats it

>>171847823

If you're a pure pyro, Black Flame is your only "get off me" move. It comes out quick, has decent recovery, does insane poise damage, and does decent overall damage. You basically use it as a Straight Sword. Don't get too comfy though because you can outspace it.

>>171846673
The orb deals more damage if you hit both parts. However, they don't combo into each other. You use it for PvE and vestiges for PvP since dodging the lava is so easy

Pretty new to Dark Souls. Does leveling increase the power of enemies as well?

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what the fuck is this shit

>>171848127
no

>>171848171
Oblivion

>>171848171
bring more knights

>>171848171
You didn't jump straight into the pit after talking to the Abyss bitch, did you?

Because you're supposed to go explore the rest of the DLC first.

>>171848171
I'm no video game scientist but that looks to me like a Dark Souls™ game, but don't quote me on this.

>>171848127
only of invaders

>>171848171
>4 thrones and 1 knight
>hmm, wonder if I should even consider thinking about that
>nah best complain on /dsg/

Is there any way to make quickstep work on a pyro build?

>>171848171
>vengarl helm dual wielding UGS

A meme coming to life

What's a good place to farm souls? I've finished the game and DLC, mostly using shield of want and silver serpent ring, but I'm still at SL 108, and don't even have most of the armour from the old hag at the shrine.

>>171848171
explore the world and find the 3 other Loyce Knights, you nig

>>171848183
>>171848359
Thanks boys.

>>171847851
Just use Anri's sword dude, boring i know but at least it deals damage

I havent played ds3 in almost a year, but Im gonna roll a new character for the last dlc of the series. What level should I aim for if Im just making a plain pve character? It's gonna be a knight Solaire build.

>>171848386
You pick up everything and then go into NG+, where soul rewards are greatly increased.

>>171848384
No. If you're quickstepping, you're not being a Pyro.

>>171848386
Three golden knights at Grand Archives. Very easy if you learn the method to killing them.

>>171848384
Chaos thrall axe

>>171848472
Probably relatively high since you'll probably want to pump faith and attunement alongside your physical skills
Might as well push it to be a powerful fuck like other builds get to be if you're just doing PvE

>>171847851
>>hollow infusion is dogshit damagewise
What?
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/155461

You do realize that having both weapons hollow gives you +10 luck. Which is really anywhere from 18-30+ AR.

>>171848386
The bonfire right before lothric, where you find the hunter's ring. Those 3 angels give tons of souls.

>>171848319
very interesting idea. I'll see if it's true.

>>171848393
>>171848264
>>171848317
I explored a bit, but after I got attacked by the qts that were just sitting around before I got upset and switch paths. I probably would have gone back after trying this ten more times.

>>171848472
>plain pve

why would you ever stop leveling up then? NG+99, SL 802 is the goal

I really wish the amount of souls receive would scale past NG+7

I'm playing BloodBorne for the first time and loving it.

What is there to do in Old Yharnam? I killed the two NPC hunter dudes, run around clearing the areas and can't see any hidden doors or nothing. I've been in the "church" building with the beast corpse as an altar with the horde of beasts underneath

What am I missing?

Also, so far I've been only using the saw cleaver and reinforcing it, should I stop and look for other weapons?


This game is amazing. I'm also planning of buying Dark Souls 3 GOTY in april. Is the online still active?

>>171848578
I just dont want to be overleveled and make it too easy for me, and ruin my experience. since this may be the last installment of the series

>>171848605
You should go back and run the entire level again, the lady in the cathedral opened a ton of new paths inside the city for you
Just slap any and all ladies in white you see

>>171848580
>hey if you do quality and then add luck ontop of it then luck is totally fine!

wow it's fucking nothing

>>171848649
Go through the church with the beast corpse and explore the road beyond. At the end you'll find a chalice.

You're still very early in the game. You'll find other weapons to play with and plenty of materials later. The saw weapons are some of the best ones anyway with their speed and ease of use.

DS3 online is very active, especially with the DLC coming out in a few days

>>171848649
due to the GOTY edition the online will stay active until at least a month after that releases

there's specifically a bloodborne general too

all of the bloodborne weapons are designed to be usable the entire game since they're (generally) unique.

Hunter's Axe is extremely good for a beginner, the two handed moveset with the L2 sweeps and spin2win R2 is legit.

>>171848580
Pathetic.
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/155463
Higher damage, less SL investment, my offhands can be anything and I don't lose damage on my main weapon because of it. O&U combo bleeds with just rouge.
Hollow infusion is shit

>>171848649
Yes the online is active, and will most certainly see a rise when you like many others get the GOTY
There is a bloodborne general, someone here probably does know

>>171848735
Who knows man, I stopped caring about the meta way back, faith is pretty trash and you'll want your spears to be nukes anyway, so if you're gonna be solaire you're probably gonna be quality or strength + faith and as such, gonna need a bunch of levels

>>171848649
>>171848862

also DLC's right around the corner so online's going to be populated again for a while

how did from prevent early access to the new dlc this time?

>>171848978
they cancelled preorder for XBone
But season pass still exists, so tomorrow ppl on XBone will be able to play DLC early again :^

>>171849217
N-NANI?

>>171848904
>https://www.mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/155463
Now post your fashion with this shit.

Also pretty sure recent patch notes say they're nerfing the refined infusion, so the AR diffrence between hollow/refined wouldn't be 40-70 anymore.

>>171848978
They decided not to upload the DLC content to the servers a week early so that every damn person could break into it.

We're only getting a balance patch and the arena maps tomorrow, the actual DLC shit won't drop until a few days later, much closer to the release date.

>always had a shitty laptop, played DS1 and DS2
>DS1 ran like shit, had only a few main builds to use, and offered very replay value compared to DS2
>2 years later, 1000+ hours into both games, build a nice gaming PC
>DS1 is actually extremely beautiful graphics, you can see out into the distance to the whole world, super immersive
>DS2 looks exactly the same.

I wonder how many people's opinions on DS1 vs DS2 was fueled by how good their hardware is. That whole sense of a "immersive world" that DS1 gives was not something I got at all when I played on low graphics, so DS2 seemed much nicer by merit of having better gameplay mechanics and stat systems, which didn't require a fancy computer to enjoy.

Can't wait to start a new pyro character for the DLC and melt every boss in 5 vestiges

>>171849457
>chaos firebat demon
>taking any damage from pyromancy

>>171849519
>Black Fire Orb

>>171849446
Did you install any mods for DaS1? Because those make a huge fucking difference.

And to be fair, DaS1 (and to a similar extent DaS3) is a horribly optimized piece of shit, even on a 2014 rig you'll get slowdown in Blighttown unless you unlock the framerate. SotFS was at least rebuilt well enough to run very smoothly.

>>171849446
it's not about graphics nigger
dark souls 2's areas don't make any sense when put together

>>171847473
Once you get good chaos fireball is just as good as vestige, but with roll catch ability.

The shotgun spell is decent if you free aim, but its still easy to dodge. The damage isnt great but the range is surprisingly good.

Profaned flame has decent damage and knockback, but very difficult to land. Learn to free aim with it and you might roll catch.

>>171849371
Fashion doesn't matter, what the fuck.

Sharp and heavy will get buffs, O&U are not infused, AGS still has 30 or so more AR uninfused than hollow, so that build doesn't need refoned gems to beat luck ones, that's how bad they are. Bleed on non blood weapons and rouge are being nerfed. If anything, the patch is killing the already weak luck builds and making single stat ones better.

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>>171849746
>Fashion doesn't matter

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>>171849746
>Fashion doesn't matter, what the fuck.

>>171849878
I could wear anything and it would look better than the first build combining outrider with gundyr. The metals of those don't match at all.

>>171849695
DaS2 has its hits and misses. The areas and architecture make no real sense when you think about it (discounting how taking an elevator at the top of Earthen Peak somehow leads you into Iron Keep in the sky, there's other shit like how the pinnacle of Drangleic Castle only houses the Embedded and an imprisoned Milfanito, Eygil's Idol only having the switch to turn off the fire to the rest of the castle, and so on), and Soul Memery is still the worst thing ever implemented in a Souls game. But for how it handled spell utility, elemental scaling, stamina recovery and roll distance being based on equip load, two-handing requirements, and various other things, the gameplay still has things going for it.

>>171850090
i could not find that fucking ladder.i looked so hard
now i can go get that item in iron keep

>>171849694
No mods, just DSfix, PvP Watchdog, and DSCM. I'm playing with 60fps unlocked now and DS1 definitely looks better on a powerful enough PC to run smoothly than DS2. But on my laptop, DS1 looked like shit. I used to like DS2 more but I have a newfound appreciation for DS1 as an immersive experience now, even though I think DS2's mechanics make it a better game to actually learn how to play

>>171849695
>missing the point entirely
if you play DS1 on low graphics then it makes about as much sense as DS2's areas because everything is blurred and rendering distance is short. First time I played I had no idea you could see sen's from the gargoyles, or demon ruins from tomb of the giants, etc. On low graphics they all just seem self-contained like DS2 areas are.

Meta for pvp is 120 SL, right? Could I go 125 without any problems? I need some vigor for fashion.

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>>171849746
>Fashion doesn't matter

>>171850354
go 130 to spite people

>>171850324
But they make sense geographically. The way parish is built makes it a belivable place that was built to be lived on and not be a video game level.

Are there any good maps of demon souls levels?

>>171850472
Will I still get pvp without any problems? It's +/- 10 levels?

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>>171849746
>Fashion doesn't matter

>>171850469
But my build isn't 120. I don't need 120.
Fashion is for losers that use shitter weapons that don't demand poise.

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unhittable bullshit

>>171848978

They're making it fresh the day of. It doesn't exist yet.

>>171850808
Throw an alluring chillidog at them

>>171850090
>Soul Memery is still the worst thing ever implemented in a Souls game

>DeS magic
>DS2's lighting
>DS1 Havel's Ring
>DS1 curse
>demon ruins and lost izalith enemy placement
>gravelording only works in Ng+
>world tendency
>DS1 infusions
>bed of chaos
>elevator to iron keep
>sunlight medal farming in DS2
>probably a lot of bullshit in DS3 and BB that I don't know about yet

People complain about SM but forget that DS1's matchmaking makes twinking the only way to play, and DS3's matchmaking is basically SM minus souls spent on any weapons except your best one, yet they praise those two games

>>171849746
>Fashion doesn't matter, what the fuck.
what the fuck indeed

>>171850687
>Not being able to make a fashion WITH poise

>>171850808

>DS2:EB

I haven't played in a long ass time

how are the following

>Claymore
>Lucerne
>Cathedral Greatsword
>Cathedral Mace
>Purplebros Katana
>Morion Blade
>Darkdrift

>>171850609
yeah

>>171850808
>he doesn't have a weapon that can track downward
>he doesn't know how to play without lock on
>thinks he can get through all of DS2 without swapping weapons at least 10 times for different enemies

stop turtling behind spears or R1 spamming straight/greatswords

>>171844203
>Turn it into an anime meme sword
>Proceed to make it one of the worst UGSs in the game
At least you can do a shitty Guts cosplay :^)

>>171851012
yep

>>171851012
Good
Good
eh
Okay
Not great but fun
meme
A katana

>>171850808
i'll defend most of the shit in DaS2 but those things are cancer as fuck. Literally wheel skeletons 3.0

>>171851012
Clay is great, almost all GS's are great
Lucerne is still good
Cathedral Weaponry is still eh, you'll manage fine but there are (slightly)better alternatives in their classes
>Bloodlust+Morion
Memeweaponry
>Darkdrift
NOTHING CAN DEFE-its alright

>>171850609
130 is safe because:

110-119: No one
120: Almost everyone
120-130: Everyone else
131+: No one.

>>171851080
i do play without lock on tho :(
I'm going to sneak up and just do a heavy attack this time

>>171851213
that's what i thought when i went to heal and he just rolled at me

>>171844203
Because Miyazaki has less original ideas than he has berserk references

>>171850979
You can't hit damage, poise and fashion. Pick two. Meaningful poise breakpoints demand minmaxing

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>>171851268
>131+: No one
Then you see 150SL guy in full havels and DMB.

>>171851268
How many people in the 160-180 zone?

>>171851213
How we got sonic the hedgehog in DS2:
>DS2 is the only game with actually somewhat fair and fun wheel skeletons, during the skeleton lord fight
>miyazaki joins the project again for the DLC
>hold my beer, let me show you how it's done
>Rampart Hedgehog was born

>>171851270
I usually just kill them with arrows desu because they fucking rape you on higher NG cycles

>>171851418
I'm in 205.
Lotta people...

>>171840513
Doesn't int get the most scaling from 50 to 60

>>171851374
In DS3 your weapon class' HA is way more important than armour poise values from my experience

>>171851395
Shut up Vincent.

>>171851395
>Not seeing Drake at SL220+
Its like seeing a rare animal

>>171844203
The "real" greatsword in DS2 is the Drakekeeper Ultra Greatsword.

In DS3 it's probably the Astora GS

>>171851585
It's a combination of both. You need to grab a calculator, see minimal poise to endure a R1, then see the poise you need to tank it.

>>171851268
I actually get a lot of summons at 142 since we keep telling everyone to go to 120 meta.

what are the benefits to playing without lock on? I've always played these games with em and I'm wondering if maybe you aren't suppose to always do it?

>>171851270
easiest way to deal with them (along with any other enemy in DS2) melee is with a lance greatshield, and face them head on. Just got to learn how to time your attack as they're spinning toward you, with your back to a wall.

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>>171851608
I've been summoned.

>>171842976
What? Ive muled over like a ton of weapons and armors and all +2 rings for a guy once.

Its pretty standard. Like half the time its just an item or two and a armor set.

The other half of the time its like every weapon they have at +10 and every ring +2

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>spells do all my hp
oh

>>171852034
i stood in the door way and they started to wander and i baited them into it

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>>171847226
This guy convinced me to make a pyro and free aim chaos

I haven't done this in a while

I want to save greirat by rescuing seigward from the well and giving him his armor, then sending greirat out to Irithyll, then killing pontiff (or any boss) without
1. talking to seigward while he's in Irithyll
2. entering Irithyll dungeon
then after pontiff is dead, greirat will be safe and I can proceed to talk to seigward in Irithyll and continue on to the dungeon?


does that sound right?

>DeS is the only souls game where AR actually is a fair relative indicator of the damage you are expected to do

>DS1, DS2, DS3 all have tons of weapons with higher AR but do less damage overall because of gobbledeegook damage formulas that make no sense

I'm kidding, I actually kind of love DS2's nested RPS style of damage, I just hate DS1's exponential formulas

>>171852012
Some bosses or enemies can fuck with the camera (King of the Storm, Lost Sinner), so playing without lock-on can be good sometimes.

Some areas can fuck you over if you use lock-on, so don't do that shit.

Beyond that, it doesn't really matter much, you can do dead-angle shit while locked on if you manually aim your weapon.

i want titanite chunks
das 2
where do i get em

>>171852225
>power stanced zweihanders

why

>having no magic defense

why

>>171852303
Seems about right.
Although I generally first go to Irithyll and check if Siegward is in the kitchen [without talking to him] before sending Greirat there.
Just to be sure.

>>171852463
Dragon Aerie

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R8 my fashion souls brehs.

Also, why do these screenshots taken through geforce experience look like that no matter what graphic settings I use in the actual game? And normal print screen just gives me blank white picture.

>>171843830
>>171842280


Whats the difference in damage with 60 faith between hyper armor talismans and yhorshkas chime

>>171852463
bonfire ascetic on cardinal tower bonfire. The chest below in the bastilla room has 3 chunks.

You can also bonfire ascetic somewhere in brume tower, which has a few chests and crystal lizards (I think there's ~5 chunks per ascetic).

you can also farm them off the giant hand monsters in black gulch

>>171852517
Wait a second, it actually doesn't look bad, for some reason when I checked it on my computer it did. Nevermind then.