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Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip

All-in-one Android undub and uncensor:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip

Tools for deckbuilding and card checking
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
http://sv.bagoum.com

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi
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Nep has some serious thighs
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Minty will save us, you'll see!
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>>171785262
Link to previous:
>>171756307
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>>171785262
DELETE
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Should I keep this hand?
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What did he mean by this?
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Do you get class exp from private matches?
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>>171785345
Nep is so good she doesnt even need to be played.
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>>171785530
It's an Iron Maiden lyric.
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Do you get anything for being in the top 100 wins for a class?
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>>171785696
a slight feeling of accomplishment
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>>171785696
Permanent virginity.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12537776

http://www.strawpoll.me/12537758
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>>171785696
Epeen.

The satisfaction that you're in league with a bunch of autistic NEET japs (and gooks).
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it seems i will have to play a lot of dragon the next expansion and i don't like forte and rowen too... rowen isn't cool, forte is bland, the only good alt leaders are vampy and garuda imo/

what to play

>>171785345
she is fat. fat!
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>>171785562
Look at this shit.

kill yourself Cygames
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>>171785562
>Turn 10+
>Not a single evo point spent
>Plays Imp Lancer on an empty board
>Doesn't go face
Are you sure you weren't playing against a computer?
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>>171785760
epic:^)
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Just ran into a dirt rune that ran Merlin, is that common?
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>>171785852
Fuck me I forgot the Olivia ignore this IGNORE THIS EVEN IF YOU ALREADY RESPONDED WITHIN THE NEXT 55s OF THE COUNTDOWN ALLOWING ME TO POST AGAIN PLS
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>>171785852
Anon, there's an Olivia on the board in the beginning.
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>>171785262

You dragoncucks laugh it up while it last shitposting with your lightningblastshit? I'll just aggro shadow until you dragoncucks fuck off ladder again like you did with discard dragon in the beginning.
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>>171785837
>fat
She's not fat.

She's

THICC
H
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C
C
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>>171784326
Yeah, you laura-servant. You also have 2pp to use self harmers to drop into range if they tried and failed to play around it.

>>171785530
>Let's give haven forest's gimmick with a better forest of dreams
T-Thanks.....
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Did Japanese streamers lie when they told me to say thanks after every match, or is everyone such a salty cuck that they can't even say it whether they win or lose?

>>171785474
No, you need early followers to deal consistent damage and save those for removal or finisher. I never keep them.
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>>171785852
Its an easy mistake to make, I could feel the sweat as he tried his hardest to play something i couldnt counter.
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>>171786012
Anything wrong with killing a deck?
how about an entire craft?
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>>171785852
>Turn 10+
>Not a single evo point spent
>has Olivia on the field
Kill yourself my man
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>>171786064
BM your ass out of here.
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>>171785562
moooooooom!

>>171786002
so what? that guy still dropped imp lancer and didn't hit face, it's a low quality win vs a low quality player
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>>171786064
>Did Japanese streamers lie when they told me to say thanks after every match

Of course they do.

Do you really think a nipmonkey is going to say thanks when he loses to a gook (or chink in the near future)? Hell no, they would rather commit sudoku than do that.
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>expansion titled tempest of the gods
>only one god
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i want to draw waifus
how long will it take to go from stick figures to waifus
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>>171786092
Only proofs that Blood and Shadow are overpowered-potential cancer along with (just) Elana.
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I just started playing. What's the most easy, cheap, braindead aggro deck I can build? I tried forestcraft but haven't been doing well
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>>171785262
Where do you go to make these?
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>Dragoncucks getting this arrogant because of 1 good card

Friendly reminder that shadow got insanse board flood now.Shadow will steamroll dragoncucks.
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>>171786156
hey man
don't bully
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>>171786346
>Shadow will steamroll dragoncucks
Shadow is like Poland in 1939, between Eris and Rowen
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>>171786331
Aggro blood. Only 3 golds and no legendaries.

However if you just started playing I would suggest rerolling for "midrange" sword. It's equally braindead and easy, but wins more often.
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>>171786331
Blood
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>>171786331
Swordcraft for faceroll ease of use, bloodcraft for a fun but still pretty strong aggro deck.
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>>171786419
now, that's racist
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>>171786331
Bloodcraft for sure
Forestcraft does terribly as an aggro deck and requires some expensive shit for their other decks
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77686 one concede pls
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>>171786331
Aggro blood is 5 golds for 3 vania and 2-3 vampire fortress
Cursed storm royal is 1-2 golds. Shadowed is really only there for if you get stalled you can clear and re-cloak. Banner memes is pretty cheap as is aggro royal using fangblades for a closer.
OTK disconewt dragon's 5-6 golds but the 3 breaths are core dragon and the 3 altered fate are core ptp neutralcraft
Aggro forest can drive on 3 gold roaches
Storm haven is 5 golds for 3 garuda and 1 valhallan
Tempo spellboost rune can get by with just 3 Levi's
Budget aggro shadow has 0 golds but you really have to nut your curve or you fall apart like wet toilet paper if you can't close out with cursed soldier+board on t7

Neutralcraft's really just the 2 gold wind gods. The 2 uriel are for spear consistency which is important but you'll live for a week to get the vials for them

>>171786346
Just breath it bro.
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>>171786124
>Rowen is now a Nazi
wtf I love Dragon now
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>>171786286
Ouroboros is a god
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>>171786346
if board flood was good otohime wouldn't be dead
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>>171786331
i only play forest, blood, and sword so i'm an experiened aggrocuck, sword is probably the most "fun" but they're all braindead,
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>>171786523
>Nazi
Rowen is comie, Eris is Nazi
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I was bullying him the whole game and top decked blade mage in the end. It felt like a fight with a grade schooler. The only unexpected thing was albert at 9 turn, he just drew him.
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>>171786331
If you're dead set on forest,
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>>171786419
Poland is only one step away from being the land of Poo. You can not compare that to the honest and prideful craft that is Shadowcraft.

>>171786537
Otohime would be good if she summoned stronger followers and gave them rush or ward.
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>>171786583
>comie
ugh, begone
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Why is Bahamut a 13/13? Did they think "wipe the entire board" was a downside?
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>>171786331
aggro is dead on 30th march when the next expansion is out

past 30th march the only good decks will be those that cost around 30k vials, aggro was too good for how cheap it was and cygames decided to fix it

you came too late

>>171786583
no, eris is a commie, she wants to forcedly liberate the whole world and is an ally with garuda (i.e. the american white-headed eagle)
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>>171786343
Photoshop?

I just have a shitty stock image for the photoframe and I just paste in the image and convert to greyscale.
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>>171786693
>bahawut
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>>171786751
don't blame me, blame shitposters that edited Eris and Rowen
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>>171786693
Because he's dragon king and supposed to be strong.
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>>171786850
Can you post the photoframe?
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So hey, Dragonfags. What happens when Eris drops a heavenly big guy Aegis on board huh? How is your Lightning Blast gonna help you then?
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>>171786523
Eris killed the jews.
Rowen is killing nazis and jews.

anyone have the sukeban eris with nazi
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>>171786890
Then why is fucking Satan a 6/6 that doesn't affect the board at all?
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>>171786890
>he's dragon king
uh, no
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Beautiful Cinnamon Roll keeps carrying me even after nerfs.
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>>171786256
You already saw the outcome, he was probably worried about another khawy giving a beefy heal so he didnt evolve and forgot to hit face, 3 damage wouldnt have made a difference anyway.
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>>171786890
bahamut is a fish...

read the thousand and one night for a reference

btw jesus christ saw bahamut (if we trust the same source)
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I did it bros.
I think I'm done with ranked until tempest of the gods.
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>mission: win 4 ranked games
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>>171786951
LEADER SKINS WHEN?
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>>171786890
>>171786693

Bahamut is the strongest being of RoB.

he looks like a dragon but is not one.

is like boota in TTGL evolving to a humanoid form because is fit to inteligent beings
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>>171786929
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>>171787235
>>171787123

What if Bahamut is a big Megalorca?
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>>171785339
>reroll
thanks game
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Post casualties of the new expansion

rip statue waifu
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>>171786968
soviet union never killed the jews though... it was a political enemy with israel mostly because israel was pro-american, and you can claim that it sometimes persecuted jews limiting them in some rights etc but it never killed them for their nationality
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>>171786693
Because he dies to removal and is walled by 2 skelling tones.
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>>171787235
That doesn't mean he needs to be ridiculously overpowered as a card. There are plenty of ways to keep him balanced.

For example, he could deal damage to his leader. This would fit with the whole "you can't control Bahamut" thing from the anime.
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What's the best aggro blood deck right now?
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>>171787316
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>>171787174
Cygames already confirmed the school skins.

they will release after everyone get one.
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concede plx 17773
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>>171787174
When Cygames allows steam workshop support
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>>171787305
nep[tune] should evolve it for free then
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>>171787360
>bahamut
>ridiculously over powered in "aggro+removalverse"
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>>171787360
If he was like Zeus everyone would be complaining about a strong creature having lame effects.
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>>171787387
Good.
Day 1 buy for all of them
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>>171787123
>>171787035
Clearly we're not talking about his origin. In games bahamuts are often described as strongest dragons, ie dragon kings. Besides he doesn't even look like fish. Leviathan looks like fish.
>>171787235
>he looks like a dragon but is not one.
In this game he's a dragon.
>>171786997
Because satan's weaker, his power comes from knowledge of forbidden magic and he provides you such cards.
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>third expansion releasing soon
>still only going to get standard packs as rewards for missions and T2
uhhhhhhhh... shadowbabbs??
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>>171787450
What's Rowen position is school? When he was meme everyone joked about janitor but now he should have other end of a stick
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>>171787123
>bahamut is a fish
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>>171787371
"Mid" sword
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>>171787559
Why is Servant of Darkness so strong? If he is so strong why is he a Servant?
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>>171786951
We already killed you with storm though?

>>171787354
They have an entire 10pp to do something. Often 3 bodies isn't enough.
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>>171787571
Rowen will always be a wizard
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>>171787484
>this card isn't broken because the meta is too fast for it
I bet you defend dshift too
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>>171785760
I am already a wizard, so that is kinda pointless.
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>>171787571
Principal
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>>171787559
>In this game he's a dragon
Nah, he's not a dragon, he's Bahamut. How about you watch the anime or see the source of the game instead of saying nonsense.
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>>171785262
>already had fantasies about Eris locking me in chastity
>tfw Iron Maiden is a thing
>she can lock you up and make you be a good boy
I'm so unbelievably hard right now.
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is this still relevant?
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>>171787123
>bahamut is a fish
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sleeper of the set?
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>>171787845
Erisfags are degenerates, what else is new.
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>>171787571
Gym teacher. Everyone laughed at him, then when it was time to do real nigga shit he stood firm

>>171787868
yes
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Anyone want to concede to Nep to make her feel a little better before her demise?
53319
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>>171787615
dunno, i play them both and one day one of them rocks and the other sucks and another day another rocks and the other sucks

there was a day recently when i forced myself to do sword dailies because of a lose streak with mid sword and easy wins with blood
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>>171787783
What happened to the good old days of magic when TCGs didnt have animes.
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>>171787873
Bahamut is actually a carrot
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>>171787123
Could Bahamut kick Jesus's ass?
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Hello
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>>171787926
Thanks brother.
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>>171787708
shadowverse is an inherently aggro based game because of it's moblie roots and every class has tons of removal
acting like bahamut is a instawin when you drop it is silly when it's a 10 mana card in a game where matches end no where near 10
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>>171787559
>In this game he's a dragon
Not only in this game. Bahamut as a fish went disuse long past our miserable lives. Don't mind these parroting newfags.
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>>171787908
>sleeper
>rated 5/5, sole saviour of the Elana or whole Haven, by everyone on /svg/
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Do I play Vania/Vampy on turn 2, if I have no other turn 2 play?
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>>171787962
Some of them are enjoyable.
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What do I mulligan for a daria deck?
Do I always remove every card for daria?
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>>171787978
EAT YOUR VEGGIES
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okay moment of truth. craft or no craft?
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>>171787783
If it looks like a dragon, talks like a dragon, smells like a dragon, it's a dragon. A demon realm dragon to be exact.
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>>171787783
Jesus, kill yourself underage. Back to being an avatarfag.
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What if Bahamut is actually Rowen?
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>>171788126
Depends on what you're facing
Lots of decks would love a target on turn 2 for their early game removal.
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>>171788137
>actual cards now

They really stepped up the production value.
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>>171787783
>anime
That's why I hate Cerb retards
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>>171788248
>Rowen get's bahamut's lightning breath
Rowen is Bahamut
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>>171787650
>How about you watch the anime or see the source of the game instead of saying nonsense.
He's dragon in anime. Your point? We're not talking about some arabian mythology but jap game.


Look at this opening, if you're still insisting on fish variant i give up. Some peope can't even tell a difference between fish and dragon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYW1wrYOxy8
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>>171788178
No the expansion is right here
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Can someone explain to me how the monthly score reset works?

I started last week and grinded my way slowly up to C2 with 8000. Does that mean I keep my C2 rank but start at 0 again? How does that effect my level to C3? Does that mean for next month monthly reward I start at 0 like everyone else? Is this different from being in Master rank?
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>>171788352
What does the mutt have to do with anything
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>hotel internet so bad I can't connect to Steam online
>only 500mb left on data plan with two weeks left
I know Sword is looking retard good again next expansion, how about Haven? It's the only other hero I liked while playing through the story modes.
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YEAH! DADDY GAVE ME 4 WHOLE CUMMIES!
I'M GONNA SQUASH YOU WITH EM!
CUMMIES!
YEAH!
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>>171788178
If you want to use her with the new cards, then just wait for the expansion. If you still want to craft her in a week's time, then go ahead.
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>>171788075
He does.

>>171788178
Do it faggot. Confess your excess and embrace the storm of your Lord. Accept your Fate!
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96084 Concede pls
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>>171788225
>>171788237
>>171788352
>guise this character of this fantasy story is what I say and not what the creator actually says it is
Ok.
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>>171787783
>he's not a dragon
>"The supreme dragon, standing with the gods themselves. The beauty of its deep black frame overwhelms all else in creation."
>"The supreme dragon, standing with the gods themselves. Unsurpassed are its divine powers, and heroes dream often of its glory."

sure sounds like a dragon to me
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>>171788178
this should be a 2 drop desu senpai but I'm glad it isn't now that blood moon is out and has a 4 timer on it too
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>>171788075
It combined effort of angels and demons and sacrifice of Zeus and Prince to temporarily seal him before he destroyed all.
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>>171788462
That I am 100% sure you're a cerb faggot. And it'd be a shame to let this pass.
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>>171788470
>pedofilth

Kys before someone finds you and tortures you to death degenerate.
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>>171788470
That card is gonna fuck up so many other people it's going to be nuts.
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>>171788225
Bahamut is some primevil being that kicked the entire angel and demon worlds shit in, calling him a "Dragon" would be a major understatement. Satan and Zeus had to commit sudoku JUST to seal him up.

>>171788352
>Cerb retards
Cerberus shows up a total of about 50 seconds in the entire anime, you retard.
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>>171788552
Thanks, forte
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>>171788075
well, it was the arabian version of jesus, isa, i.e. a mere human prophet and he was definitely scared

also i have googled a bit and found a modern poem about bahamut which i don't particularly like, but i'm generally suspicious of most of the free verse
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I need a concession. Please, help a fellow anon out!

92952
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>>171785948
Yes. Securing your draw spells is huge against other control decks.
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>>171788568
Well, in RoB he was from demon realm
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>>171788683
>>171788470
It's basicaly a 2pp less versatile Siegfried with a relatively big cost.
Dragon cucking Shadow even more.
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>>171788685
>Cerberus shows up a total of about 50 seconds in the entire anime, you retard.
Yet there's several gifs and webms of it. Ur po1nt?
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>>171787936
that's card games
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>>171788712
They mustve got so high back then, just all the time dude.
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>>171788775
The flavor text from Bahamut in SV comes straight from RoB.
There is no "Dragon realm" in RoB, they just put everything that doesn't fit Man or God as Demon.
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>>171788821
Those short webms and gifs are her entire screentime, I don't understand your point.
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>>171788775
Characters from the demon realm weren't necessarily demons you know.
Are you gonna tell me Sarissa is a demon, not a bunny?
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>>171788658
I don't even know what you're talking about
Pretty sure you're just autistic famalam
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>>171788782
There's something to be said for it being 2pp though. Shadow has really terrible 2-drops so a 2/2 for 2 that can conditionally produce a big impact is a pretty big deal.
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>>171787123
>btw jesus christ saw bahamut (if we trust the same source)
I think that's only in the Quran where Jesus is like, fifty times more metal than regular Jesus.
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Time to play meme decks
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I'll go to /gbfg/ to tell the cancers there that vee were actually a fish.
You're great, /svg/
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>>171788178
memeing with servant of darkness is spicy
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>>171789048
>dragoncraft
Youve already done that my son.
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>>171789048
Why is she so pleased?
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Why is Bahamut not a cute loli?
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>>171788225
Baha is a divine janitor
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>>171788782
You can play a 3 drop with it. Sieg's sitting on your hands.
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>>171789048
With the rate that svg is reaching legend soon there will be no one to make fun of.
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>>171789251
this t b h famalam. ever card needs AT LEAST alternate art where they are a loli
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That board though.
leo stronk
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>>171789068
Which of the two, Bahamut and Ultimate Carrot, are tastier when cooked?
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>>171786693
Because making your company's mascot weak is something cygames doesn't do.
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>>171788456
When the score rewards reset, nothing happens to your rank. You literally just get more free shit to grab.

Master Score gets reset at the same time, but Master Score only matters during months where there are rewards for Master Rank players.
>>
69060

concede pls
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>>171788631
>>171788685

but zeus has storm and bane, he can kill bahamut 1v1 (not like he can survive the killing though)
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What the fuck?
there's no dragon realm in RoB only hell and heaven shit.
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>>171787140
Why? I stopped at 4k this month and never looked back.
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>>171788947
Theres that thing called shitposters of the family Secondary. This specimen comes to threads to shit up through circlejerking.
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>sitting on 3k rupees for the expansion
>reaaaaally want to spend it
someone help
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>Start doing the elite 2 quests for 1400 sweet gold
>Start from Arisa
>She keeps on spamming emotes
HOLY SHIT SHUT UP YOU ELF FUCK
YOU ARE EVEN WORSE THAN NORMAL ELF PLAYERS
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>>171789447

thx forte
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>>171789251
because it's his choice to be a strong man, why do you want to oppose his gender choices

>>171789239
i rather wonder why she is portrayed with spread legs
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Why is Bahamut neutral if he's a dragon?
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>>171789590
Turn off emotes when playing against AI, it will make the whole thing go a lot faster.
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>>171789491
What did he mean by this?
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>>171789642
She's literally riding a dragon
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>>171789489
>zeus had to sacrifice himself to seal bahamut
>kills bahamut but also dies at the same time in the game
deepest lore

>>171789491
Some dragons like Eastern Asian-inspired ones such as Shenglong are God realm, majority are Demon realm though.
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>>171789407
It's proven that Vyrgin is taster!
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>>171789642
She's riding bahamut.
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>>171788419
>>171788478
>>171788541
>>171788604
>>171789207

done. made 2 instead of 3 because I want to make some blood moons next week. and i just happened to unpack an azazel. wish me luck, friendos. it's meme time
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>>171789654
Because he's the company mascot, and Cygames wants everybody to use able to use him.
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>Forest is dead
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>>171789573
Get 10 Standard, 10 DE, and 10 RoB packs.

Do it, you'll get animated Legos I promise.
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what did erika mean by this
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>>171789573
Sitting at 10 rupees.
I'd rather just buy a bunch of RoB packs and try to get everything I'm missing from it before the next expansion hits, so I can just spend the next 3 months buying nothing but TotG.
I don't care for having a lot of new cards as soon as the expansion starts if I am missing stuff I need/want from other expansions.
>>
Was there a discount for crystals when RoB was released?
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>>171789889
Yes, but not because of RoB. It was Christmas/New Years stuff.
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>>171789745
have fun anon

>>171789573
may god have mercy on you anon if you spend any of your ToG rupees
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>>171789654
Within the SV context, Bahamut is a neutral divinity like the others.
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>>171789573
This is what your next pack will look like.
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synergy soon
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>>171789695
>>171789727
that's lewd

actually i can consider buying her now...
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>voices of resentment into prince of catacombs
>with reaper and sexton on the field
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Got this in a normal pack.
Is he any good?
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>>171790165
No.

There's some cards in the new expansion that makes him look more interesting, but I doubt anything of it will work.
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>>171790165
not.yet.

Wait for mist shaman for memes
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>>171790165
The only leggo he is more playable than is Ginger.
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>>171790165
The best card is this game. Beat Skullfam and Fuck boy Luci.
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>>171790165
meme
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>>171786286
the definition of "god" is really loose in cygames universe, there are multiple ones by their definition
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>>171790137
on what turn
and why wouldn't they clear sexton
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>>171789573
I'm sitting on 8k
I want to nut already and cygames tells me I have to wait another week
Fuuuuck
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>>171790137
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>>171790165
he is an annoying meme if he is dropped and evolved when the enemy also has 2 magical hares and you have no spell removal on hand
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Why do I keep getting connection unstable?
My internet is perfectly fine and I'm not even playing on a phone
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>>171790165
>x card that doesn't see any play at all
>"i-is it good??"
No
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>>171789432
Does my score go back to 0 then? And I have to earn the rewards? Or do I just stay at my score and get all the rewards automatically?
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>>171790467
leave timmy
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>>171790165
>Build entire deck around one card
>Golly jee I hope he doesn't have any form of removal otherwise I'd be right fucked
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>>171790294
Lots of gods of varying importance, overseeing different things is a jap thing not just a cygames thing.
>>
58741

send help plz
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>>171790165
This list from some nips on twitter got 130 winstreak in master
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>>171790505
Your score reset.
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>>171790491
No bully i just started
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>>171790625
don't see a wincon. how does it play out?
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99870 concede pls
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>>171790719
bottom right
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>>171790672
Post your legos/golds.
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>>171790625
>130 winstreak
surely you mean 13
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>>171790719
are you serious, you can't be this retarded
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>>171790505
Your personal score (which your rank is tied to) does not change. Only the cumulative score for the month is reset, and all the rewards that were previously available are replaced with new ones.

In other words, make sure you get your Date Masamune sleeves (12K score) before the rollover time.
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>>171790810
No it was 130
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>>171790592
ty anon
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>>171790625
>130 win streak

I dont see it.
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>>171790763
Thanks Vampy
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>>171790779
legos
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>>171790625
>That poor anon the other day who fell for this blatant lie and bitched about it

Good times.
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>>171790896
let me say i don't believe it

>>171790832
not him but i think date will be the first monthly rewards since i began to play that i am willing to forfeit, i don't particularly care about katanas, japanese history and i don't find him cute/cool
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>>171790896
just show them the source its simpler that way
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>>171790779
Golds.
I also have polymorphic roar but it's in the other page all alone
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>>171791071
He should have known it was complete shit as soon as he saw holy mage, noble fangs and master sage.
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>when Rowen wins against three Alberts
Well done, to be honest.
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>>171791036
dragon is calling for you.
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>>171791036
Liquify all except nep, then make 2 more nep.

After that the wins will come rolling in.
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IM GONNA KILL MYELF
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>>171791036
Not bad, you nearly have the skeleton of a ramp dragon list.
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>>171791374
What would be the better method on balancing Albert?
Increasing his cost or lowering his stats?
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>>171791450
>Be closer to Vengeance in order to activate those sweet effects
It's a blessing in disguise. Nothing feels better than an on-curve Righteous Devil.
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>>171791036
Nep is going to be raped next expansion dont listen to this fag >>171791395
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>>17179145
>opponent loses 6hp for no reason
that is so satisying as a dirt player.
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>>171791503
increase enhance (9) to (11)
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>play seraph for dailies
>instantly get matched with dshift
I feel like the matchmaker does this on purpose.
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>>171789573
/svg/ highscore is 56 packs without a lego. Do you really want to go into totg without even getting silvers and a few golds?
>>
So I'm pretty new but have been climbing ranked pretty easily with a control sword deck I'm playing, at C3 now 1 win from the next rank, I'm winning like 60% of my games but I swear to god the 40% I lose is almost always to Runecraft. Now I've actually only played Swordcraft so i dont really know how rune works or what the decks are but I'll feel like im winning with board control then suddenly they play that Daria card and I just fucking lose since they draw all this shit and play it for free, wtf is going on? How am i meant to play against this? Do i rush face or what. Its lthe main thing im losing to and its so annoying
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>>171791503
Change Enchance (9) to Enchance (10)
That's it, he's now okay.
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>>171791374
>Getting cucked by rowen of all crafts with 3 alberts.
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I conceded a while ago and now I'm stuck here. Servers shitting for anyone else?
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>>171791506
Especially since Dirt Rune are such lazy asses they won't ever hit your face until fifty turns in.
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>>171791503
That 7 defense annoys me all the time.
>>
git gud

learn when you can rush face or overvalue with Csword

but yeah Daria is good against some Csword builds
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>>171788075

That's Moses in that pic tho
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>>171791694
He kept using removal and just going for face, I would have won if he traded. Moral of the story: never trade with Sword if you can outpace it.
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>>171791374
i believe dragon generally has good results vs control sword
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>>171791590
Use the board flood to your advantage, wait until they have 3 followers early on and bring out amelia to get a 0 cost Gelt,
save him and when he brings out daria and floods the board you gelt+evolve+cyclone blade.
Alternatively just duckblade to clear his board.
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>>171791590
Control sword has always had problems with Daria because they dont have decent enough board clears.

Daria don't use many taunts, so I'd suggest playing aggressively.
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>>171791854
*Midrange
That was just a really high cost hand that I started with
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>>171790165
He's alright in count havencraft
In TotG you'll be able to give him target immune and vomit a board of 6/6, 5/4 ward, 6/7

He needs just about 1-2 more xpacks to be tier 1 and he'll be tier 2 next one due to all the consistency and ramp count got.
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>>171789745
First match was against a Rune with Dimensional Shift. They kept spamming draw but couldn't dig for a spell to finish me off and just emoted while playing each card slowly, waited, emoted, played Shift then waited for the timer.

I swear to god only Rune players emotes like that
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>>171791839
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>>171791590
Daria shits on Sword because you rely on your wards to protect your face, you don't have efficient board clears and heals.
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>>171790625
So that's why I keep seeing holy mages

>>171791216
Those are all fine until you fill out your library. don't worry about it.
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>>171791993
>leonidas
>midrange

sure m8
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>>171791536
>raped
That's a funny way to say "not autowin against dragon"
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>>171792230
It's a personal tech friendo
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>>171790625
Why beast call over something that doesn't suicide your tiger if you have full board.
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>>171792053
Seraph does it when they know they don't have the nut. It's pathetic and unsportsmanlike
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>>171787326
>implying everyone's going to play dragon
>when albert exists
>when forest exists
>when daria and her old dirt lover exists
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>>171792396
He's not gonna have a full board for a while and he can just sit on it when he does to get value any time.

>>171792465
That card is gonna cause so much salt.
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>>171789251
She will be, after she's released in GBF, there are draft of her already.
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>>171792434
I do it when I do have the combo
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>>171792465
if it wasn't destroyed on use...
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Ding dong going face annoys me so fucking much.
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>>171791694
>Waiting to throw down the quickblader after evolving and attacking with albert
>intentionally finishing off the opponent with blader
>so they hear "too slow" before they lose
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>>171792465
Go home, Atomeme, you're drunk.
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>>171792465
Works with guardian sun, so might be good in that deck
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>>171792615
Don't be such a bitch.
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>>171792465
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>>171792465
fug I forgot what it does
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>>171791036
RAMP DRAGONS
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>>171792461
albert himself doesn't mean much, the power of sword it's their amount of storm followers and albert fills the storm curve perfectly

dragon is already decent vs sword and with the next expansion it will only be stronger with rahab, grimnir, sybill, ouroboros and stuff
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>>171789573
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>>171786012
Please do, face dragon will love it
>>
Post TOG cards you think will be auto included in every deck.
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THIS NIGGER GAVE FUCKING DRAIN TO HIS FUCKING BAHAMUT

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171792719
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>>171792748
Any good ramp dragon deck?
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>>171792874
ramp satan
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>>171792434
It's annoying. I notice Daria/Shift do it and also Sword when they have Albert on turns 9 and 10. And if I happen to recover and close in on lethal they will force a disconnect so I have to sit there for two minutes to get the win screen.

At first I thought the DC was honestly a bad connection but then I read people will intentionally disconnect when they're about to lose for some reason?

Also I fucking love this Laura Servant combo on top of Mary and Dire Bond! Thanks to the anons that encouraged me to craft Laura :-)
>>
So shitposting and memes aside, what do you think the ToB balance of power is going to look like? I kind of feel:

Tier 1:
Sword
Rune
Dragon

Tier 2:
Forest
Blood

Tier 3:
Haven

Shadow I don't know. Nep will be dead, but they still have lots of options for aggressive decks and possibly a more consistent Tyrant OTK build.
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>>171792753
you're also forgetting veteran lancer
2/2 2 drop with ward
i cant name another card with ward that's that cost efficient, save maybe unica who effectively has ward (but not strictly)
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>>171792703
is it vampy trying to seduce the mammoth?
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>>171792649
>so they hear "too slow" before they lose
you don't hear attack voicelines from enemy followers
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>>171792828
It might have a deck built around it but sword runs dick all for commanders normally so I don't see how it's an auto include. Anyway I'm casting my vote for aegis.
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>>171786968

>>171792660
>he doesn't plan to run a mid-range dragon deck that just spams Leviathans into Disaster Dragons into Arriets
At least TRY to play a spicy meme once in a while, ordinary ramp is boring and dumb
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>>171792830
>mammoth sleeper agent filling up your board till turn 7

This will only see play as a meme.
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>>171789573
i play 1 round of t2 every day
just do that
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>>171792829
limil's way is the scummiest blood spell, good thing not a lot of them run it
>>
I just Odin'd a Khway for the first time and I think I just jizzed in my pants
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>>171793012
i-i do
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>>171792828
it doesn't do much if your deck isn't commander heavy and 5pp is a hefty price

if it was a rob card it wouldn't see any play in albert sword
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>>171792830
ah ok heres a question can you combo it with a bahamut?
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>>171793012
I love drain. I wish more crafts got it, and Shadowverse had overhealing. Then we could do the shenanigans you can do in Elder Scrolls Legends.
I guess it wouldn't be very good here though since we have so many absolute wincons... so I take it all back.
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>>171793092
Just wait you start to jizz dragon light
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>>171793012
I run it and love using it with blood wolf on t4
>>
Bahamuto + will of the forest or Second Cynthia + Elf of gemstones?
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>>171793163
The Mammoth is part of its Last Words effect, so yes.
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>>171793163
it has last words: summon an imperial mammoth, so i guess you can
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>>171792975
Heheha. Haven is the amulet manager, that condition doesn't need to be fill.
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>>171793092
b-but they are both boys
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>>171793163
I think so, pretty sure fanfares activate before anything else, so Bahamut's effect will destroy the amulet before it meets the requirement of playing a 7+pp minion and popping it naturally.

Could be wrong, though.
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>>171793195
>overhealing

As a Haven player, I fucking wish.
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>>171793338
Fuck you, your shitty Radiance angel is annoying enough
>>
>>171793252
>>171793257
ok now the only thing that I have to worry about is the board clearing from haven or dragon
>>
So is dragon control going to be good after the new expansion?
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>>171793092
>khawys your odin next turn by playing nep
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>>171793469
no, everyone who thinks it will hasn't played ramp dragon
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>>171793469
i am personally thinking about dragon midrange with ouroboros as the most expensive card (that you ideally drop on turn 6)
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>>171793460
The only thing you should worry about is Haven getting that Imperial.
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>>171793402
>3hp heal is annoying
but 8hp heal for elfsluts is okay?
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29519
Let me win pls
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>>171793469
This guy >>171793561
basically nailed it. All that changed is that ramp got more reliable removal for seraph and a counter to nep shadow (which will probably be replaced by something more aggro/mid-range anyway). Overall the winrates shouldn't shift for dragon too much. The achilles heel of combo remains.
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This card will be trash why cygames is trying to push dragon?
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>>171793092
I play a very aggressive aggro blood deck so good luck living to see t9
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>>171792874
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
Code: snyv
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Any chance they're nerfing Tsubaki or Albert?
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>>171793613
it's gonna be 19 soon don't worry
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>>171793195
This would kill the whole aggro archetype. The next expac already become Controlverse.
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>>171793515
HAHAHAHA!
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>>171793613
No, elf healing is more revolting. Fucking absurd that they can drop a card on turn 6 and get a big body on the field while healing for so muchb
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>>171793735
why would you want to nerf tsubaki, lol
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>playing aggro shadow against forest
>set up win cons
>drops a fairy beast three turns in a row
>dies to Phantom howl

This Howl+Cerb combo is amazing
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>>171793735
lol
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>>171793723
post yours and your rank please
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>>171793613
Fairy queen can fuck off I just want another storm
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>>171793735
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>>171793735
These 2 don't need to be nerfed. Something like Shadow does.
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>>171793834
ikr lol
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>>171793735
Sword just got dogshit cards while everyone else got good ones, let the power creep get them
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>>171792829
Got a replay? Sounds too funny
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>>171793907
Dragonfag please, you're already getting the mass banish you begged for.
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Apparently after you rope someone, your next turn timer become shorter. Got some retard who rope me like 5 turn straight, but after the 2nd turn, the timer is reduce to like 20-30 sec.
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>>171793735
I'm so sorry anon.
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>>171793606
nah I really shouldnt worry about haven too much though gonna play dragon with that amulet
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>>171792829
it's more common to use limil's on servant, i did it myself
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>>171793936
If you teach me how to share replays, sure.
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I had someone on the ropes for 10 turns earlier, then he played PoD and next turn drew an apocalypse card that reduced me to 1 hp from 20, he killed me with a spartoi seargant i ignored the turn before because i thought there was no possible way he could do 18 damage from his hand.

Guess i got proven wrong.
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74726
concede please
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>>171793912
>a counter to D Shift is dog shit
hehehehehehehehehhee
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>>171793975
Only if you don't manually end turn and just afk
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>>171793692
>>171793561
>this is what shadowbabs believe
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>>171794042
>Servant of Darkness+Limil+Laura
Nobody can stop me!
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>>171793834
>let me destroy 13/13 bahamut just for 6pp and also put 4/3 on board
>of course it also need fucking AMBUSH, so it will your face next turn 99% of the time

Tell me how it is balanced. Tsubaki shouldn't have ambush.
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>>171793735
>nerf tsubaki
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>>171793734
Thanks senpai
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>>171793613
WE'RE GONNA BE RICH
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>>171794072
thanks
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>don't even feel like playing Nep anymore because it will all be for naught in another week

Think it's about time I activate my last word desu
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>>171794204
If you're playing a control deck that expects to go to turn 10 and beyond, you should be able to outlast single-target removal.
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>>171794051
Yes, you learned a simple lesson today. When Satan is played, you can no longer let a single follower survive a turn or you can instantly lose the game.

Here's another free lesson, Dragonclaw Pendant + the spell that reduces your health to 1 is a guaranteed kill.
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>>171794204
>Tsubaki shouldn't have ambush
You're right anon
Lets replace tsubaki's ambush with storm
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>>171794341
Tsubaki was pretty okay originally, but when combined with Albert it does give them insane reach. I don't think it needs to be nerfed, but you can't say that destroying any big creature AND possibly doing 14 damage to face next turn isn't way outside the bounds of what control usually does with that sort of play.
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>>171794272
Don't forget that's just an example, my actual list is actually a bit different, and with new cards coming up, a lot of things can be changed or improved.
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>>171794427
t. cygames devs
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>>171794326
>Think it's about time I activate my last word desu
Sorry Luna, but DUELS HAVE NO END!
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>>171794398
Astaroth
>>171794427
t. intern
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Holy fuck, playing against Dshift is the most boring thing ever.
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I'm B2 but I'm on 6 game winning streak with this deck

Erinyes is for when you're forced to us a razor claw to remove a ward early like veteran lancer or bellslut
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>>171794592
>Turn 8 get banished
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>>171794326
same desu, just playing aggro shadow for shadow dailies
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>>171794051
Welcome to Shadowverse.
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>>171793912
what about luminous mage, the banner for commanders, the fucking roland etc
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>people in this thread unironically defending 55% winrate deck with positive winrate against all classess

Just name this thread as sword general next time.
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>>171794663
HANDS OFF THE GRAVES
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So svg, new-ish player here. Would like to get some opinions on some forest cards I wanted to try out:

1. Dwarf Perfumer
2. Fairy Knight
3. Crystalia Lily
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>>171794626
You have too many high cost cards, you don't really need 2 alucards. As blood you should be winning so fast that you shouldn't need odin.
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>>171794824
sword is good by default since release in all expansions.

we just don't like when shit like rune win the spotlight
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>>171794467
The problem in all Sword scenarios is Albert. Cygames keeps making the same error with Forest by nerfing other cards to uselessness instead of just nuking Roach.
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>>171792660
>Blazing/lizard and wild hunt or discount evo some frozen mammoths out
>Skull dragon a thicc board
>Follow up with serpent's force and dragon tamers


>>171792828
Nah, straight commanders are a little spotty unless you run it with ironwrought fortress

>>171792920
It's a big thing on mobile in japan and it dc's if they just hit close all apps which is faster than menu conced yes home exit. Blame kikegames.

Feel free to record and send a real time recording of your games when they rope and bm then dc though.

>>171793735
They didn't even nerf roach my man

>>171794427
Thank you monkey paw, truly you are my greatest ally.

>>171794872
You have to have a way to remove whatever you stalled and deal with his next play
Tech choice if you want momentum over other bits
On-stat curver that can really break shit for value.
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>>171794872
Fairy knight is decent if you need some filler. I've never seen perfumer used.
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>>171794872
>1. Dwarf Perfumer
useful. but forest have best cards
>2. Fairy Knight
shit
>3. Crystalia Lily
10/10 infinite value in forest hands and stall albert
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>>171794872

meme

sometimes is used as a removal

messes with gobu drawing the roach so is used only for tempo etc as an optional removal
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>>171794620
You don't enjoy your opponent playing nothing but removal for 7 turns and then skipping your turn when they play 0pp 7/7s?
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>>171794872
>dwarf parfumer
trash

>fairy knight
it's alright, but most forest lists can't exactly afford to play the card, may see play in the next exp

>crystalia lily
fits a control archetype that doesn't exist at the moment, will probably see play next exp because control forest got a lot of support
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Don't talk to me, or my storm, or my storm's storm ever again.

Post some """midrange""" sword screenshots of your own!
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don't be so sad shadowbabs it's 100% certain you will get an anti banish amulet next expansion
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>>171785262
Did something happen? What's with the OP pick? Did a some new anti nep cards get announced or something?
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>>171795160
>anti banish amulet
That must go to Haven.
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>>171795179
Dragon transcended meme status.
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>>171795179
Blue-Eyes White Dragon banishes everything
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>>171794824
how new
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Is Control Forest gonna be better than Wolfbolt in the expansion? Between Roaches and now Beetle Warrior i'm not sure the 18 burst damage on T9 is necessary as opposed to getting to lategame safer with Control and then finishing with Warden or something.
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>>171794626
looks as a semi-random shit deck
iirc this thread already had an aggro blood deck discussion

>>171794467
>Tsubaki was pretty okay originally, but when combined with Albert it does give them insane reach.
literally explain to me how she is better than fucking dod
there is a ton of wards that she can't even destroy
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>16 health
>opponents turn
>opponent has 8 damage on board
>can win on my next turn with a vengeance card in my hand
>hits me once
>hits me twice
>at 11
>doesnt hit me
>passes the turn
>lose
fuck off
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>>171795179
Durrgin got a 6pp banish amulet or follower, enhance (10) banish all the opponents followers and amulets

After the kiwicaust, you could say ibs anudda shoah XDDD

>>171795160
They already have sexton, be thankful.
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>>171795179
Yugioh has lended Dragon some of it's Dragons.
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>>171795160
As a shadow player I'm excited for this expansion though. Tyrant, Meme, and Midrange are the best Shadow decks.
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>>171795372
Did you get GHOST'd
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>>171795179
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>>171795128
>Post some """midrange""" sword screenshots of your own!
gladly
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>>171795372
Gotta know your matchups bro. You should congratulate him on a good play instead of resenting him. Beat up beginner bots if you need to jerk off
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>>171795395
What happens when both players banish each others wincon?

Truly Cygames know card games.
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>>171795360
>how is a destroy that puts a 4 damage body on the field that can't be targeted better than a spell that does 2 damage and kills something
They don't fulfill the exact same role, but Tsubaki can push more damage overall in return for not being able to target everything.
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>>171795395
Sexton is great
He just can't stick to the board for more than a single turn
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Once again a Daria spammed BM, then when I dropped Laura they roped and disconnected leaving me with the 80 second timer

That makes three in a row. This card generates so much salt.
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>>171795529
D Shift reigns supreme? As per usual.
I wonder if they will ever print a wincon for other crafts that is a spell from hand and hence can't be countered.
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>>171795480
>why ever run bahamut ever
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>>171795529
You can't banish an apoc deck so whoever satan'd first wins
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>>171795706
>actually the worst example of how to use Lightning Blast
Why do people keep doing this?
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anyone got any recommended obs settings and is a i5 6600k enough to record shit?
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>>171794872
You try out decks, not cards. This is the wrong approach.
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>>171795445
no, i dont stream and he was haven storm

>>171795523
i know my matchups, whats retarded is that he knew exactly what was in my hand as if he was ghosting like the above guy mentioned
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>>171794204
You don't drop a bahamut and expect it to live if they have a hand.
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>>171795349
Wolfbolt WILL be the Forest control build, as the deck already plays more defensively than Roach OTK or Tempo. Roach OTK will see a revival due to beetle and possibly piercing rune.
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>>171795617
but that's exactly why he's shit, can't set things up because any cheap removal is enough to get rid of him and playing him with other stuff is too expensive
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>>171795883
It's a fucking card game
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>>171795807
>t10 banish opponents entire board

>worst example of how to use lightning

I can see why everyone has been moaning about neps death now.
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>been shooting up the score ladder recently
>decide to join a tournament for vials
>now an hour before the tournament
>completely stall on ladder and can't win a game against several archetypes with my tournament deck
this bodes well
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>>171795773
>You can't banish an apoc deck
Sure we can.
We just need to borrow more cards from Yugioh.
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>>171795160
Problem with amulet is that it can't be used with Nep, even a last word follower with anti-banish won't be reliable because you can't just dedicate an entire slot to him. Maybe spell would be nice but the effect probably wouldn't last more than one turn so you can't use it the turn you drop Nep. Sadly, the only way to save Nep is get rid of the dependence on Mordecai.
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>>171794917
I just took Odin out my deck and proceeded to get my shit pushed in by Khawy the very next battle

I think I'll keep my Odin
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>>171795564
>1 turn slower
>doesn't work vs unevolved goblinmount, khawy, owl guardian, guardian golem etc etc
>gives albert a better reach than dod

:^)
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>>171796007
It's only a good use of it if they have something that interacts poorly with death vs. banish.
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>>171795936
that guy was talking about ghosts from phantom howl and it's a pretty common play to not let blood players get into vengeance if you can help it
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>>171795936
>>171795372
>WHY DID HE PLAY AROUND A CARD THAT COULD MAKE HIM LOSE THE GAME??????????????????????????????
You are a fucking retard.
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>>171795992
a mobile card game, at that
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>>171795661
When I first saw it I got really mad too. Had no real way to deal with it, and it felt like a stolen win. In time I realized it's not that bad, but it's very sad if you don't know to play around it.
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>>171795936
>whats retarded is that he knew exactly what was in my hand as if he was ghosting like the above guy mentioned

ORRRRRRRRRR MAYBE, JUST MAYBE he knows Blood can play strong effects with vengeance active so he left you at 11 so you'd have to spend a card you might not have in hand to trigger vengeance and not have enough mana for your plays.
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>>171795946
>no acknowledgement of based rabbit
>playing shitty piercing rune
why

Wolfbolt may be the forest 'control' deck but it won't be good. It's already kind of meh against a lot of stuff and it's getting jack shit. Forest just doesn't have the aoe to play control.
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>>171796086
>Things that like being dead
anything with last words

>Things that like being banished
Nothing
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>>171796070
That's not its purpose, though. Some decks run both. It's meant to reverse the enemy's tempo play from a big creature AND possibly threaten lethal if you have a useful board state. Not every game revolves around slamming Alberts through wards.
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>>171796269
It won't be a full control deck, it'll be Wolfbolt running some of the new control. Forest isn't going to start running Bahamut and Satan.

Sakuna will see play in Tempo/Aggro builds, Roach OTK still isn't going to run 2-drop followers.
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>>171796065
That's the problem, by the 7th turn he should have been in a position where playing khawy wouldn't make a difference. All that should be on your board are things with 1 attack. And even then you only have 1 odin, if you're facing a shadow there's a 99% chance they have 2 more of them up their ass, so are you just going to whine more? >>171786463
Just use an actual good deck, like this one instead of falling back on your anecdotal evidence.
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>>171796269
>le Control needs AoE meme
CSword has shit for AoE. Quite a few builds dropped Cyclone Blade after Daria lost popularity and everyone that knows shit about Sword knows that it's only played because Sword has no other option in a meta where Daria is a thing. You don't need AoE top play Control, you need AoE to counter a tempo meta.
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>>171796442
I'm not saying wolfbolt will be 'control'. I'm saying it's the closest thing forest can do and even it won't be good for the same reasons.
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>>171796140
>>171796246
but that doesnt make sense; the card i was using isn't on netdeck lists which is why he couldnt have known
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>>171796168

i don't see how it would feel as a "stolen win"

if that guy ran a more classic control blood with alucard instead of ice fiend he could end the game simply dropping the alucard. a few cblood lists run imp lancers too. heck, cblood decks sometimes even run claws, 3hp, that rune guy could die to the burn easy

laura is rarely played simply because it's pretty meh, it needs vengeance and a lot of pp to perform better than alucard can do regardless of your hp and as a single card, not 1 card combo
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>>171796615
Does it really matter what card it was
All he knows is that vengeance is bad, so he played around it.
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>>171796103
This is common tactic against blood, you need to hit them hard and in a few turns so they dotn get the most out of vengeance, if you can leave them just out of vengeance and hit them harder next turn you do it because it is a better position to be in.
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ded geimu
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>wahh Lightning blast is gonna kill Nep
>wahh shadow is going into the gutter

No it isn't, no it won't. Stop whining, retards. Nep shadow already has a 75%(!) winrate versus ramp dragon. The only thing this card will do is give dragon something to deal with it. Besides, it's ONE very expensive tech in ONE shitty deck. People can tech three Odins in one deck, which counters Seraph, and Seraph is still good.

The most this will do, the most this CAN do, is make it so that Dragon vs Nep is no longer an auto concede. Stop whining because you're no longer getting free fucking wins. It's not going to reverse and give dragon a 75% winrate over Nep, and they even have Sexton to deal with the banish!
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>>171796615
what part of "putting blood into vengeance for free isn't smart" don't you get?
he didn't know you had whatever shit card you had, he was scared of revelation or diabolic drain
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>>171796615
He literally outplayed you. I don't understand why that is hard to understand. There's only two forms of play once you've identified c blood: storm their face under 10 knowing they can make a big come back, hoping that they have less answers than you have damage in your hand... or building a board and parking damage at 11. That's what he did. No need for ghosting, just solid play.
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>>171796686
I was upset because I lost to a Laura boosting a servant of darkness to kill me when I was otherwise nowhere near death. The issue is that against control decks, you may be using life as a resource as well. Even seraph needs one turn to kill. But against a control deck, you're probably going to be taking some incidental damage over the course of the game in the process of trying to rush down your opponent. If you instantly lose because of that, it's not really a reasonable outcome to predict or play around.
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>>171796750
Most people only tech 1 odin lightning blast will most defintely become a staple in every dragon deck, its just too good not too have.
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>>171796750
>nepshitter being this delusional
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>>171796168
I figure with back to back alberts, un-counterable dimension shifts and all that jazz I can get away with a 8+ mana 2 card wombo combo that requires being at or below 10hp. I might try to add Limils to this deck so I can do pull retarded burst AND recovery heals out of my ass for even more salt generation. I can't wait to try Laura combos with Blood Moon though - that's gonna be real spicy

>>171796615
I mean I've been playing for just over a week and I often leave Blood players at 11 if I can help it, especially if I can pull bigger burst by passing a turn. There's just way too many things they can do at 10 or below that can mess me up so it's not worth helping them get into vengeance mode

>>171796686
I also run 2 Alucards. My deck is a janky hodgepodge of shit because I don't have 3 odins or any bahamuts/lucifers/satans so I rely on Mary+Dire Bond, evo'd Alucards and now Laura Servant/Fatties for big dick damage turns
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>>171795037
>>171795039
>>171795076
>>171795083
>>171795126

Thanks for the responses! My believe with Dwarf Perfumer is that early on, the 3 attack for two cast can help push damage or help with cards like Yuries, Temple Defender, Snake Priestess, etc., and mid game can help stalled while still building a board.

I mainly agree with everyone's opinion on Fairy Knight, just seems like a worse Blitz Lancer. The one Fairy not been worth the extra play point.

Crystalia Lily just seems like it could really help against cards with strong Last Words affects. and just handling big followers without spending evo points.
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>>171786997
>>171787559
>using SV cards to judge the power level of RoB characters
Where's my Albert tier Lyrial?

>>171788075
Probably not. Bahamut is still a created being, the Creator trumps Baha and the angles still follow God and the angles can still overpower Baha
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>>171796750
mate, the moment you banish their shit it's game over, just like banishing seraph. except seraph can fall back to satan if they happen to tech in one, but nep can't.

yeah, the spell is expensive as fuck, but what matters is that you banished their board. in a war of attrition, you win, it's not that hard to understand.
>>

Could I please get a non-concede victory
38636
can concede after for you if you like
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>>171796750
>Ouroboros can trade into Khawy without triggering the heal
>Dragon can play 3 Odin as well
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>>171797146
>angle
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>>171796502
Control sword isn't really a 'control' deck. It just uses the same broken sword minions to try to keep board control like midrange but has a couple extra legos stapled on.
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>>171796750
>one shitty deck
Dragon is gonna be fucking everywhere next expansion due to how hard Cygames is pushing them my dude.
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Eris is cute, CUTE!
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>>171797306
Need something to stop the sword scourge.
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Tell me why I shouldn't do it.
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>>171797192
Thanks Vania, much appriciated I like your sleeves
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>>171796750
>shadowbabs in denial
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>>171797396
>not vialing only when you need to craft something
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>daily is win six ranked matches
>only viable decks in ranked right now are aggro sword, daria, and decks that beat those decks
>there are no decks that reliably beat those decks

I sure love losing to Aggro Sword as Control Blood, Elana, all Aggro decks, all Midrange decks, and all Combo decks.

People love shitting on Hearthstone, but at least that meta allows for both Reno (Control) and Pirates (Aggro). Also, both those types of play have about three different classes that can use them effectively.

People complain about Leeroy, but let's have Albert do literally half your total health in a game with no armor mechanic.

>3 novice troopers
>3 alwida's commands
>3 alberts
>3 1quickbladers

27 damage without evolving, even though they will always evolve. That's just storm stuff

>2-3 DoD
>2-3 Angels

Cool another 6-8 damage. This is all assuming they literally never have a single follower survive long enough to attack (without storm)

Meanwhile the strongest neutral heal in the game is Lucifer: 8PP heal for four and do nothing else since evolving means you lose the heal.

Roach should be removed from the game too, but at least it requires some sort of setup and is left at the end of the turn as a 1/1 if they don't bounce it. Meanwhile pic related is blatantly overstatted and after being evolved is a whopping 5/7 which requires extensive effort to remove all just to prevent it from doing ANOTHER five damage on top of what it did.

And more overpowered Storm cards means more cards to evolve for an additional two damage. Too bad the devs have no real interest balancing the evolve mechanic.
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>>171797268
T S U K O M E
S
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>>171797396
do it pussy you won't
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>>171797096
With blood moon I would be more fine with Laura. Essentially, I lost to Laura in a position where I had burn in hand to kill the opponent, but I couldn't because of the ability to OTK. After playing around removal all game, finally building up a board, and knocking them down to near death, I die in one turn because of an OTK out of hand at >50% life. Not really rewarding me for making skillful plays.
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>>171797396
Don't you fucking dare.
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>>171797306
>due to how hard Cygames is pushing them
Literally all they did was give Dragon some cards that aren't steaming piles of shit.
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>>171797396
you should
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>>171796750
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>>171796951
it's a rare combo, you also knew he had servant on hands and was in the vengeance

blood can possibly do 9 burn on turn 6 (3 claws) and 11 burn on turn 10 (mary + dire bond + claw) or 12 burn + storm damage on turn 10 (mary + dire bond + an evolved blood wolf) after all, that's without any preparation
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>>171797306
Dragon is going to hit 50~% at best.
They got like 3 good cards with only 1 of them being REALLY good.
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>>171797313
my wife
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>>171797501
don't forget demonic strikes, they close a lot of albert sword games for me
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>>171797709
It only takes 1 good card to drastically improve a deck

Pic not related
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>>171797815
your wife sure is slutty
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>yesterday dragon was a meme
>now people are literally ranking about how unfair dragon is
>expansion hasnt even launched yet
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>>171797887
I want to thank my boy Blue-eyes for doing this favor for me.
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>>171797242
the language of the universe is a powerful weapon
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>>171797268
>a control deck isn't a control deck if you add control cards to it
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>>171796750
>6pp banish
>very expensive

sure m8
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>forest gold
>2/2/2
>fanfare: put a forestcraft minion that costs 2 pp into your hand if at least 2 cards were played this turn
what do you think?
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>>171797887
Smug Rowen is best Rowen.
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>>171797051
>>171797493
>>171797679
I play cuckcraft, thank you very much.

>>171797015
I tech three Odin and still lose to nep quite often. The issue is that one, there's SEVERAL banish targets, between kawaii and mordecai. Even if you manage to banish all the three mordecais with Odin, and evo them to kill nep, you're still at a disadvantage because they probably healed to full off a kawaii and killed your baha.

This won't really fundamentally change that fact, LB just means that you can take out multiple mordecais at once, which smart shadow players will just avoid, or have removal at an earlier turn, which isn't an issue since you're always gonna be at least one turn ahead of the shadow player anyways. Even Kawaii can just evolve suicide into whatever and still get the heal.

I'm not saying Lightning blast isn't a good card. It is. VERY good. But it doesn't make an EXTREMELY hard matchup for dragon all of a sudden easier, the same way Odin doesn't save dragon in that matchup. I see dragon vs Nep going to 50% at best.

>>171797151
Shadow can land three modecai WAYY easier and more consistantly than three odin. Same with Seraph. All this means is that they'll have to space out their mordes a little more, rather than dumping two on board on turns 8 and 9, or blindly urding one.

>>171797306
>MONKEY KNIGHTS, IKUZO
>Gawain of the commandercraft
>Blood moon and turn 6 snakes
>a fucking meme leggo and sibyl of the don't ramp lmao

Yeah, Dragon really got the OP shit this time.
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>>171797887
Don't worry about the undercover shadow players, dragonbros. I'm glad you'll be raping them for the next 3 months.
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>>171797887
That all change when kaiba corp became a major investor in cygames.
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>>171797818
Indeed. There are plenty of other damage opportunities like Demonic Strike or Tsubaki sticking around a turn thanks to ambush.

>>171797887
Ramp is a bad mechanic in any card game. If Dragon is strong, it will be broken strong. You can't balance ramping and unlike Hearthstone, Cygames thinks it is okay to include more and more efficient ramp cards. It kills Control for other classes or requires huge power creep for other classes to have a Control deck worth running over Ramp Dragon.

Getting more support means more reliably being able to run Genesis Dragon or Forte, which is just more bullshit akin to Albert.
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>>171797984
>more Roach tutors
No.
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>>171797984
Go away.
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>>171797887
you can see from a mile away what lists will be good and what lists won't
it's just like daria at the start of RoB which everyone hopped on
prepare for dragon 1 tier everywhere expansion boys
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>>171797601
>rahab completely fucks over aggro
>sibyl lets you ramp more consistently and heal
>ouro allows you to keep up card advantage and force the opponent to deal with him
>blast eliminates dragon's biggest weakness
The deck was already good in RoB and is gonna be insanely strong in ToG.
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>>171797684
Yeah, I know now. Basically the only problem I can see is that it's basically a semi-meme. You're going to be winning a lot of games simply because your opponent doesn't know about the card, not because you outplayed them. Or on the other hand, they have to make a choice about what wincon they want to lose to, and they chose wrong. And that's not particularly fun for either player if you care about a skillful game instead of just winning.
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>>171798010
>>Blood moon and turn 6 snakes
sure, sure, when you banish blood moon on turn 5 because lol ramp
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>>171798035
>It kills Control for other classes
You mean like D-shift?
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>>171797960
>stick an odin in midrange anything
>it's CONTROL now!
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>>171797501
I lose maybe 1 out 10 games against Albert as CBlood. Are you mulliganing right? Prioritize heals. Healing angel and Unico, the 2 cost spell, wardrobe, etc.
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>>171798092
But dragon is my comfy rare class. Fotm faggots stay out
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>>171797960
removing one drops and adding some top end cards to an aggro deck doesn't make it control
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I LOVE J/O DRAGON
REMOVE FACE SWORD
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>>171798034
When are we getting bahamut eyes ultimate dragon
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>>171798201
too bad
your precious, pure class is going to be defiled by fotm shitters for 3 months
enjoy
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>>171797984
> if at least 2 cards were played this turn
Can we please stop with this mechanic? All it does is make the card unplayable with the exception of Tia due to clogging up your board and being garbage on curve.
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>>171798243
I won against a khavy decker with JO :^)
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BALANCED
A
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C
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>>171798136
Have you played ramp Dragon? Ramping to t10 by turn 6 is stupidly hard, if not impossible.

T1 do nothing(egg)
T2 Oracle
T3 Oracle Oracle
T4 Fervor
T5 Doesn't matter
T6 10 mana

Ramping 4 times before turn 6 almost never happens. If it does, you probably win because the Ramp player spent 5 turns doing nothing.
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>>171798010
>3 Mordecai
>3 Khawy

>3 Odin
>3 LB

Math.

It's also possible to banish more than one with LB.

With Kawaii and Mord problems taken care of, Ramp Dragon has an advantage due to their stronger late game followers.
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>>171798035
Forgot to mention that that six pp banish card Dragon is getting is completely broken. It will ruin Control completely and force people to go aggro once again. It's a terribly designed card and is better than Odin in nearly every situation. There was NO reason for it to also banish amulets. This is coming out in the same meta where just about every class is getting interesting amulets too. It will just force people back into a meta more or less the same as this one, or encourage way more Combo centric decks.

>>171798146
D-Shift is not a reliable deck. I commonly win to them as Control. If you pressure them with strong followers (especially a wide spread of them), they don't have a lot of answers to it. Plus, it still requires a good hand on their part. I just won a Control Blood vs Dshift matchup because Veight gave the player such a hard time.

Combo decks like Forest have ALWAYS been more reliable than Dshift and accomplish nearly the exact same thing. Dshift's main appeal is being able to close out games on turn seven, but that seldom happens and the times it does are times that stick out so people complain about it. Meanwhile Roach can have a strong early and mid game meaning it can actually do decently against aggro.

Dshift is strong against very specific matchups, but other Combo decks have a much more balanced spread of positive matchups.

A powerful Ramp dragon is going to outvalue everything you do now. It will banish your amulets (or last word followers) and then Bahamut anything else. It can Genesis 9 damage burst your health anytime it wants. Eggs are great cycle in the Control mirror too.
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>>171798243
>follower
You are no JO bro of mine.
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>>171798201
You see all those Erika and Isabelle shitters on ladder?
Yeah, both of those are going to be playing Forte next month.
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Did anyone else find they sort of hit a wall when they got to some point in AA? I'm currently ambling around 1500-500 points away from AA1 and I can't seem to get consistent enough wins to get me up that little bit further. Most games feel like they are either unwinnable (Sun Satan, sometimes seraph) or come down to a very tight game in which careful outplays or lucky topdecks win the match. I find that I can consistently beat players who are higher rank than me, but have recently been having trouble against players around the same level.
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>>171793936
>>171794050

Never mind, I figured it out

https://my.mixtape.moe/pdovvb.mp4

(You can have fun spotting my misplays caused by playing at night.)
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>>171798413
dod you read what lightning breath do? it banishes a single targt for 6pp

you just ramp once and banish blood moon before they can play the snek

or you can run execution
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>>171798440
Does servant of darkness count?
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>>171798531
just play albertcraft, >>171798393 this my stats from A3 to AA1
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>>171798010
>>Blood moon and turn 6 snakes
And they will ALWAYS do this 3 card combo on time, every time?
Then I will always ramp 4 times and have LB in my hand.
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I don't think I will like next expansion as much as I liked RoB.

This was shadow's high point in fun.
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>>171798010
the fuck does that even mean, "spacing out mordes", if you take too long to play them you risk the other guy drawing the answers they need, and morde is a trash fucking card you can easily deal with by himself with the amount of wards and heals you're getting

khawy is even easier because nep will kill him for you the moment she hits the field, then you just play your aoe banish and bam. the heal from khawy is useless if the shadowfag can't finish you off.
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When?
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>>171798431
>D-Shift is not a reliable deck.
It consisently wins by turn 7-9 unless you're playing an aggresive deck.
Roach is better but the fact stays.
I think you're overreacting to Ramp being OP, since ramping multiple times early game is death against any class that plays remotely aggressive.
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>>171798541
>(You can have fun spotting my misplays caused by playing at night.)
Literally cannot be worse than that anon that demonic striked a 1/1 fairy token.
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>>171798531
I've found that a certain time of day seems to have a lot of aggro sword so I mostly avoid that time of day and that's helped me a lot
T. AA1 still climbing
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>>171798680
THICC
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>>171798324
>>171798481
delet fotm shitters
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>>171798609
>literally summoning a demon from a spell
I think thats ok
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>>171798680
That ass is huge.
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>>171798609
He's alright since you conjure him out from a spell.
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>>171798440
>implying I dont use both
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>>171798680
we got some runeslut catgirl of card drawing though
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>>171798657
skull beast>spartoi>rabbit>dstrike>cerb>phantom howl has been around since standard, the fun isn't going anywhere :^)
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>>171798680
Absolutely disgusting
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>>171798630
I'm trying to do it by just playing one deck, blood aggro, which isn't sword. What website is that?

>>171798741
My deck does pretty well against sword I've found, it's mainly against heal decks and when they pull out Alwida's command that I start to have trouble
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>>171798680
kill yourself
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>>171798680
What do their butts smell like?
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>>171798926
It's a manual tracker made by an anon here
https://github.com/sleeplessghost/ShadowverseTracker

Still waiting for SV to get some kind of fucking API support so it can be automated.
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>>171787912
no bully, pls. haven is going to be dumpster tier next expansion and it's already making me depressed

>tfw rerolling and getting three seraphs, one of which is animated
>tfw the deck carried thick and thin up to AA
>tfw no longer metarino next expansion
>tfw it hurts ;_;
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>>171798421
>Teching in THREE Odin and THREE LB
Welcome to brick city boys. You're not going to build your entire deck to counter ONE bad matchup outside of a tournament.

3 Odin is already pushing it and bricks a shitton. And that's only because it's relevant vs seraph too, 6 banishes is too much.

>>171798546
>spend turn 6 do nothing
>lmao 2 snakes

2 Snakes at turn 6, with no fucking tempo, is plenty hard to deal with. Sahaluci might work though.

>>171798651
Two card, you tutor snake with baphomet. And yes, drawing 2 cards is far more consistent than drawing 5

>>171798673
And if you play them all at once you risk losing 2 mordes to one banish. Makes more sense to not have more than one morde on the field at a time, even a single morde needs answering.

>khawy is even easier because nep will kill him for you the moment she hits the field, then you just play your aoe banish and bam. the heal from khawy is useless if the shadowfag can't finish you off.
Kill him for me? That's exactly what shadow fucking wants. If Khawy doesn't die, then that's an issue.

The nep turn can already be countered by Odin into evolve, for 8 mana. The issue is that he heals for 13 and takes away all your momentum, so at worst for the nep it goes back to neutral and he has more health, at which point he just needs to play neps/mordes/Khawys because he can get those far more consistently than dragon can draw Odin or LB.
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>>171798996
Salty coins and milk
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>>171799079
>haven is going to be dumpster tier next expansion
literally got an unremovable wincon for elana/gsun which you can use together with test of strength

still they whine
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>>171798680
Wow looking pretty poorly drawn
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>>171794427
>Storm instead of ambush
That would actually make her worse. I'm already theorycrafting a deck that combos her into Israfil for 12 face damage.
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>>171799153
sword tassle you fucking retard
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>>171798926
>blood aggro
This is probably your biggest problem, I just don't believe in blood aggro against a solid meta. Your matches are basically coinflips of whether or not they got their earlygame to contest you or they had a slow start and you steamroll them.
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>>171797396
Why not? I vialed my Seraphs already. It was going to be shit compared to Aegis even without the banishcaust.
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>>171799178

Aegis is not gonna work with Sun.
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>>171799318
the top master guy reached it with aggro blood afaik

also
>Your matches are basically coinflips of whether or not they got their earlygame to contest you
is true for aggro sword too... except blood has more burn to topdeck
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>>171798718
>since ramping multiple times early game is death against any class that plays remotely aggressive.

This. I've sometimes made the mistake of playing a single oracle against """"control"""" sword on turn 2 instead of dropping my unica and suddenly I was getting swarmed by 2 drops smacking my face and I couldn't regain any tempo. There's a lot of decks that can just flip the aggro switch if need be and not allow your to ramp.

The only thing that changes about this in ToG is having better answers to early game with Rahab and possibly Grimnir
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>>171799420
who cares, it works with test of strength, you just need a healing or ward oriented deck to reach the late game safely
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>>171799178
>literally got an unremovable wincon for elana/gsun which you can use together with test of strength
>elana

What makes you say that Elana will be any relevant next expansion? It was pretty shit tier in this meta outside of stopping a few aggro decks here and there. And the text description for Aegis suggests that it definitely doesn't work with Guardian Sun.
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>>171799106
It was just an example, obviously we're not going to put in 6 high pp banish card.
And it's not like you have banish every Khawy you see, Mord is still the top target for banishment. Also it's not like that Shadow will summon all 6 of their Khawy and Mord.
With 4 times banishment, you can banish 3 Mord and 1 Khawy, kill 2 Khawy normally, this is assuming they summoned all 6, which is unlikely.
Not to mention you might be able to banish 2 target with 1 LB.

>Two card, you tutor snake with baphomet. And yes, drawing 2 cards is far more consistent than drawing 5
They're still won't pull it off every game let alone on time, you can also banish their amulet with LB.
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>>171799318
>Your matches are basically coinflips of whether or not they got their earlygame to contest you or they had a slow start and you steamroll them.
That's how all aggro works. It's only in HS where it's completely broken so that the first few turns consistently take out giant chunks of your health without an opportunity to stop it and the only viable response is a full heal Reno.
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>>171799620
firstly they got a wincon which can't be bahamuted or doded or even odined

secondly they got a follower that deals burn damage on healing...
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>>171799658
>>171799318
>>171799467
>>171798926
can you guys learn?
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>Aegis/Test of Strength

Am I LITERALLY going to have to put Executions in all my decks now
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>>171799545
>Grimnir
You have Imprisoned
You are also forgetting your turn 5 mini-Lucifer that also Ramps.
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>>171799598
>haven't played the new content yet
>no rule text regarding the neutral amulet
>who cares, it works

Keep being delusional, hagfag.
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>>171799318
I started playing earlier this month and chose it because the expansion was coming out soon and I wanted to try and get masters before it did so I could play with/against brews in the top tier. I found out about paraneko's only a week or something ago, but I kept with it because i saw he was having so much success. Since making that post I've actually been on a 5 winstreak, but we'll see how long that keeps up
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Could our boy Ouroborus make JO great again?
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>>171799857
Thanks for repeating what I just said, jesus
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>>171799860
Just Lightning Burst bro lmao
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>>171797396
DELET THIS
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>>171799420
>>171799903
>reading comprehension
>this discussion again
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>>171792923
>tier 1
sword
blood

>tier 2
rune

>tier 3
forest
haven
shadow
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>>171797109
She hits absolutely anything for value while being bounceable. She's amazing.
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>>171799106
everytime they don't play khawy outside of nep it's one khawy you don't have to deal with. and another card you have, ouroboros, is specially good for you.

I'll try a thought experiment. let's say you went first and ramped twice, once with oracle and once with sibyl, that puts you at 8pp when the shadowfag has 6pp:
- let's say you play ouroboros for face damage, since you're antecipating the khawy
- now the shadowfag plays khawy to protect his face, that's one less khawy
- you're at 9pp. you hit khawy, he gets no heal and you get your ouroboros back and let's say you play boros again
- now they play nep, that's one morde and 1 less khawy. oh no, they healed for 8, that's bad but you got your boros back at least.
- you're now at 10pp and the shadowfag has 2 morde and 1 khawy remaining.

and I'm assuming neither of you brick of course. I just don't see it swinging to the shadowfag's favor, ever.
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>>171800123
Aegis shitstorm forecast: At least once a day since aegis was revealed, will continue until the expansion launches
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>>171800101
>all those mods
Autism
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>>171800101
Something fishy going on in this screenshot.
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>>171799903
that amulet affects leaders, not followers
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>>171797396
Because you're not retarded enough to throw about 30 packs of value? Dragon didn't delete itself because nep exists, you'll still live in TotG
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>>171800298
And the Death Mask can soak up 13 damage from Bahamut, right?

Don't count your eggs just yet. The actual nip rule text has nothing about it affecting leaders.
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can someone post that pic with rowen going on a ramp with eggs?
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>>171800297
It depends on what you classify as new.
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why is that neutral 2 mana 2/2 evolve -> 4/4, ping for 1 seeing so much play
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>>171800151
>tier 0
dragon
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What deck besides mid sword has pretty much winnable matchups with every class?
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>>171800527
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I'm new and I keep losing every game. I started yesterday. I like Shadow, Blood and Haven the most. Help?
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>>171800485
Just kill yourself already. We've been over this one thousand times. Stop being a fucking autist and shitting up the entire thread.
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>>171800194
Yes, but the matchup is already bad with 3 Odin. Why would it massively improve with 3 LB instead of Odin, cept for the dual removal which is rare. 10pp still means you don't get to play anything that turn, if they drop another Nep or Morde you don't really have an answer outside another LB. Neither of you gains or loses any momentum, but their mentoring of Mordecai makes that shit more consistent.

Only thing I can see is if you run 3 LB, maybe 1 Odin. LB is flexible outside of Banishing Seraph and morde and shit, it's essentially 1 more mana for excecution that doesn't proc Last Words, which is already pretty good. But especially with the new cards, ramp is pretty starved for space as is.

I do see LB taking the place of Imperial in my lists though.
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>>171800618
be more specific
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>>171800618
post legos and golds and what you did maybe you can reroll
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>>171799978
>follower making JO great
You are not a bro
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>>171800618
Post your golds and legendaries and maybe tell us what decks you are playing for those crafts
>Shadow
Pic
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>>171799907
paraneko's deck is fairly standard

aggro blood is generally uniform, its main division with or without vamp fortress happened in january and since then all the good decks were nearly the same and unchanging, some run 5-6, some run 7-9 1pp followers, slightly more or less dstrike/dod/imp lancers/demonic storms, a 3pp follower of choice (the main choice being gobu and then angel of the word) etc

also you seem to play really a lot if you reached aa in less than three weeks
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>>171799892
>imprisoned

The 4 attack from imprisoned often matters very little, and when it evolves it becomes a 5/4 which is actually worse than a 4/5 due to minions more commonly having 4 attack. There are also times where if the opponent can't deal with it they just develop the board and pass turn. Grimnir can actually trade into things when this happens whereas imprisoned just sits there until it gets removed or you waste an evo on it.

Grimnir's enhance is also not bad either. Its extra board clear and reach if you need it or are trying to save stronger cards, and it still leaves a ward on the board that protects you from storm minions.
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>>171800564
albert sword and
disco dragon
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>>171800618
As >>171800719 stated, post pic. It'll give us an idea on where you are in terms of what you have and whether you should reroll or not.
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>>171800645
>actual content yet to be released or even a proper explanation from the official site about aegis
>no it will work

No, you kill yourself and end this shitty discussion.
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>>171800485
>And the Death Mask can soak up 13 damage from Bahamut, right?
yes it can, so?
really get lost
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Implying the 2578 Nep deck doesn't shit on dragon still
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>>171800537
Most classes have nothing better to run if they want to play aggressive. The ping is useful for dealing with enemy weenies or picking off damaged followers as well.
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Is the pic with /svg/ autistically screeching over Aegis ready yet?
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Can't wait to kill a full hp albert from hand with little soulsquasher.
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>>171800537
because neither sword nor shadow nor dragon has a decently statted 2pp follower with a good aggressive effect on its evolve
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>>171800297
If by "new" you mean "not posted since last thread" then you might be out of luck for now. We have these two edits though.
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>>171800537
It may let it ram itself against an x/5 if you ping it beforehand
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>>171800803
>They don't give us spells
>Everybody gets more healing
You're like a hand crank drill in 2017
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>>171801160
The one with this Nep is better
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>>171801160
The other one is better. Aside from that, pouty luna is cute!
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>>171801208
triple jo crystal + ouroboros = 6 burn for free every turn :^)
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>>171800297
>>171801160
2/2 the fuck, the post timer is 80~ seconds?
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Should control sword run blitz Lancer instead of novice trooper? Any have a good list or is everyone using the 3 baha, 3 Odin list?
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Can I get a concede? 37312
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>>171800694
i will need to try this next expansion since i already have 3 fortes, but i pretty much think you have to abandon saharamp for it to be worth it, and start running some storm to face. forte and ouroboros trade favorably against khawy, and ouroboros won't go away if it dies to nep, while sibyl is a mini lucifer that has to be dealt with.

the matchup might not be worthless for nep, but imo it's not worth the trouble and the deck's usage might just fall drastically, if it's not completely dropped assuming the new cards will push other archetypes.
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>>171800537
Because it's marginally better than other 2-drops for aggro decks. It's the same reason so many control decks run Unica and Healing Angel.
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>>171800803
the name should be JOurobros
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How long until dragoncucks stop shitposting with their shit card and fuck off?
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we're wasting our time with this chinese video game and could be spending it learning valuable new skills such as learning how to make hentai or how to get a real waifu
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>>171801361
That smiling rowen at the end really sells it
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>>171795480
Holy shit, can someone link me to the thread where it was reveal? I want to see the reaction. This is literally better than salamander breath and the 4pp gold card discard your hand for 5 damage.
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>>171801314
Cool fantasy land bro.

>>171801369
Blitz runs in your 3pp removal for value slot.

>>171801459
3 months, 8 days when the day of the rope returns.
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>>171801371
Thanks Forte
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>>171801369
Generally no. Jeno usually accomplishes what Blitz Lancer does and has the enhance effect to make him more useful later on. Blitz is often overkill and will usually die in the trade. Novice Trooper is more versatile.
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>>171800871
Mate, repeat after me "12 board clears after you hit 10 PP"
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>>171801361
that nepnep looks like a bird

>>171801471
but where would you get the inspiration for your hetai
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>>171800297
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>>171801534
It's the best card in the game, or at the very least the best removal. It is completely broken. Cygames has been complete idiots since DE
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>>171801534
Here: >>171722958
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>>171801289
Luna is always cute!
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>>171801582
>clearing board
>in a stormland
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>>171800537
Because Aggro decks mostly evolve to go face with whatever is left on the board and lyrial lets them do that with 1 extra face damage or the ability to ping another follower off the board.

Most other 2-drops are vanilla stats or some other effect that aggro doesn't care about, Lyrial is one of the few aggressive ones
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>>171801708
well, dod still is a better removal of most of the followers
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>>171801471
Why aren't we playing mtg online by the way? I'm new to all this card shit
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>>171801258
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>9 win streak

really fires up your neurons
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>>171801534
All those cards serve different purposes. Don't count on Blue Eyes to save your ass against aggro/midrange flood.
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Wow man, this sword craft. Such a skilled player. Play 3 Alberts while everything else has rush.

"Control" Albertcraft really does seem FUCKING HIGH SKILL, YOU KNOW? Just ward up, right guys? Ward up against fangblade.
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>>171801849
Are you using the Unga Bunga deck?
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>>171801750
You still have wards+heals and Grimnir is both ward+boardwipe once you hit 10 pp.
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>>171801975
literally copy pasted the one from the top 1 guy
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>>171801471
I was banned just because i talked about my kiss in a party
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>>171801967
Albert was a mistake. I used to enjoy playing Control Sword, but Albert has ruined the whole class for me. Now every Sword deck, no matter what archetype it falls under, is just an Albert deck.
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>>171801784
>Because Aggro decks mostly evolve to go face
uhm, no?

if anything if you have say some follower about to go face and lyrial that you have just dropped and the enemy has some board it might be better to evolve lyrial to trade, to use the ping either to trade or to the face (if you use it on the face you overall got 1 less face damage but also cleared their follower) and to hit face with the unevolved follower
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>>171802046
Well, nothing wrong with using what just werks.
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>>171801967
>tfw you win a game just by ramming 3 Alberts in a row into a dude's face
I fucking love my maids.
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>>171797501
how come alberto doesn't know how to properly hold a sword?
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>>171800297
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>>171801534
Oh shit I realize it banishes AMULET too

Wtf cygames? I was already happy it banish fellowers. Literally no reason to run odin for dragon anymore.

>>171801873
I don't even know if aggro will be viable since control blood/haven/forest have ridiculous anti-aggro cards
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Does anyone have some Eris porn
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No, seriously, isnt this deck T2 now?
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Can someone post the template of this pic? I couldn't save it the last time it was posted.
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>>171801848
>using Balor
She asked for it.
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>>171802076
>Want to disagree
>Run an albert for a body and topdeck lethal
Fuck

>>171802306
Consistency. 70% to have 1/3 by turn 10.
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>>171801815
get away from cardgames while theres still time, theres nothing of value here
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>>171802306
yeah... but midrange/combo midrange of some kind will be viable
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>>171802257
Bruh, you don't tell Sanic the electric swordsman how to use a sword.
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>>171802369
This?
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>>171802356
>wowowowow guys I won a lot of games at A1 with a netdeck, isn't it TIER 2 LOL XDDDD
I'm not trying to be mean, but please just stop
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Has anyone checked out this new aggro blood list from GameAI? How is it compared to the new Paraneko? The precious bloodfangs and hungering horde are interesting choices.
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>>171802356
You're not even at AA rank. No one cares. You can climb with pretty much anything at that rank.
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>>171802356
It's T2 but you are in the shitter rank so that doesn't really matter.
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>>171802492
Yes, thanks!
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>>171802521
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>>171802306
>Literally no reason to run odin for dragon anymore.

You might want to keep an Odin in hand if you want a banish and a body on the field. Really depends on how this meta will shape up.

I know that at the very least, 3 LBs and 3 Odins in Ramp Dragon pretty much pushed the Pure Seraph archetype out of existence. It was bad enough that Ramp had a strong advantage over the deck. This just pushes it into unwinnable/hyper hard counter territory.
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>>171802356
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>>171800694
The problem is, right now if you don't have Odin the turn they play Mord/Neph you may as well concede because you are never going to regain the tempo that is lost playing Odin just to banish Morde when he has a million other things on board.

LB makes it so that if you draw it the next turn or the turn after, it doesn't matter how much other shit they threw on board, it's all going away. And if they are forced to play something other than Nep/Morde after that then you can drop bahamut or any other big threat you have.

The biggest reason you still lose even with Odin is that you are constantly bleeding out against their board since the Neph herself is there and can just smack your face unless you evolve Odin and suicide him into her, then they can just drop another Neph of Mord and its the same shit all over again. LB gives you a clean way to deal with the entire board, and if they only have Morde out, then it gives you enough PP to play smaller minion alongside the 6 PP banish.
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>even in manga, luna lost even because she's not MC

Oh well. At least there are some good pages.
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>>171802356
>aggrofags
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>>171802521
>The precious bloodfangs and hungering horde are interesting choices
dude it's literally meme tier

stuff like that instead of the proper decks (for game ai it's this for instance one http://game-ai.jp/22476/ albeit i would add dod to it personally) it's why aggro blood is considered t2

bloodfangs is simply bad and gimme the lips is a control or midrange card
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Why the fuck does LB have an enhanced effect? All of the cards with enhance that are run right now are strong or average even without the additional effect. This just makes deck building less complex and makes it way easier to have options to everything.
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what fuck there's a card that win the game.
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How long until this class actually gets to run cute decks again?
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>>171802925
To avoid dead draws.

>>171802991
If it does, you would have lost to anything else.
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>>171802918
That's what I thought too, I just wanted an outside opinion.
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>>171802925
Whether it's enhanced blazing breath or lightning breath it doesn't matter. The game is over at turn 6 even if you clear the enemy's board it's just a matter of them playing yet another burn/storm card.
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>>171802892
Who's the MC?
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>>171803030
Alberto ruined waifusword. Alex was just an optional choice if you wanted to go full control. Now Albert is everywhere and Otohime never shows herself anymore
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>>171803030
what's happening in this comic

i only recognize aurelia, that's aurelia right
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>>171803249
A nihongirl named Arisa. I'll let you decide.
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>>171802892
there was a manga?
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>>171803284
albert is a waifu too though...

loyal to you while otohime cucks you with 4 guards at once
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>>171803323
that's aurelia, tsubaki and otohime it seems
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>>171803323
Aurelia, Tsubaka, and the turtle.
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>>171803449
That Alex tho
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>>171800851
My deck is a 1:1 copy of his aside from a Night Horde swapped with a Demonic Storm. I think I had a very high winrate through to where I am now, where it's dropped off a bit. Also, the part time work I do allows me to play as I work, so it's quite nice, but I didn't think my playtime was that substantial.
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>>171802892
>they still keep the card game mechanics
That's retarded, guess this manga was just made to be a glorified advertisement.
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>>171803323
The obnoxious mulling and getting back the same card joke.

>>171803339
https://cycomi.com/title.php?title_id=3
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>>171803447
>>171803449
okay i'm going to guess...

it's the first turn, they're all cards in her hand, and she bricked because those are the most expensive followers in her deck

i will BET that's what is happening in that comic
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what's forte's favorite flavor of scented candle
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>>171803326
But Arisa doesn't even look japanese
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>>171803449
Maidcraft when
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>>171802090
If you have Lyrial on the board, you're going to evolve her over other minions because she has an effect.

Yes you can also use it from hand, the point is either way she has an extra evolve effect that is either aggressive or defensive which makes her better than the other options for 2 drops.

>uhm, no?
Uhm yeah. Just because you sometimes are forced to evolve to trade doesn't mean that the majority of evolutions aren't spent on storm minions or minions that hit your opponents face. Aggro runs DoD and cheap removals for a reason.
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>>171803572
The plot is literally some OC girls playing the game on their phone, so...
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85350
Need a concede.
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So why does Lyrial have an evolve effect and gets full stats anyway
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>>171803636
Name 10 anime/manga where mc look like japanese.
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>>171803572
If anything, it's some goldmine for meme reaction.
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>>171803823
Why does Levi?
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>>171803717
I see, that's less dumb, but still stupid. I wish SV got a anime with the treatment of RoB.
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>>171803845
She's a fucking european elf
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mfw everybody forgets this hobo frog

imagine a 3/4 follower that you can't trade into and can't remove with spells except area effect/random ones (mutagenic bolt, will of the forest etc) that chips you for 3 face damage every turn... implying they didn't use 1-2 keen enchantments on him as well
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>>171803807
Thanks, dork.
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>>171803579
thanks
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>>171803883
levi is disgustingly overpowered, lyrial isnt as overpowered and has a comparative effect to angel of the word who is a 3 drop and does 1 damage when he comes down
so you either pay 1 extra pp or 1 evo point
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>>171803883
You at least have to pay additional 1pp and its still most broken 2pp follower in the game
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>>171803823
Yeah, Lyrial is too strong, we better nerf her.
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>>171803823
she is basically a worse levi / vampy
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>>171803823
Why do Storm cards get full stats from evolve despite their stats becoming immediately relevant when evolving? Why does Albert get +2/2 or any stats at all from evolving? Why would a card with no effect get the same stat boost as a ward, rush, or storm card?

There's no actual logic to evolve balancing. Cards like Dragon Warrior and Floral Fencer shouldn't even get stats at all. Same with Levi.
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>>171803914
>keen enchantments
you mean rogue's creed right? it's not enough to make ambush sword viable though
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>>171804032
Most broken 2pp follower in the game is Roach, but Levi is pretty close.
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>>171803914
is it neutral?
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>>171804113
keen can be also used on albert though
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>>171802925
To make them feel like they could do something when they'll already be dead in burn stormverse


>>171803284
t1 vanguard
t2 veteran lancer
t3 castle in the sky
t4, gawain, 13 cd
t5 Amelia + fearless banneret + evo knight, (0 cost gelt?) 8-9cd
t6 Gawain rush 6-7cd
t7 Leonidas into them to make them spaghetti 4-5cd
t8 otomemers for 17(19 with evo) face. Playing any storm/rush follower will let you adjust the timer. Because otomemers is 4pp at this point, you can also giant slayer a ward to clear the way.
t9 Play stormers to kill for about 12 storm before bahamut drops.

>>171803707
When you run it. Animated swordwhip maid is fun. Fun!

>>171803914
Everyone thinks of him in the context of ambush royal where he'll be meh and the other archetypes don't need him or lack the ability to raise his def. There's going to be a sea of wards thanks to Grimnir.

>>171804113
Unless you play and keep froggo alive on the left side of your board, he cloaks after creed already buffed so he'd be alternating.
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>>171804136
sword of course
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Still the best page in the manga. Sleep tight, luna.
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>Control/combo rune deck that hard counters other control decks to 80/20 matchups
>No counters
>It's been like this for 9 months
>Only now in ToG are there POSSIBLE solutions

>Control shadow deck counters control decks with 60/40 matchup, with dragon at 80/20.
>Has bad matchups against dirt and seraph
>Only been around for 3 months
>ToG buries it

Really makes me wonder which craft is the pet class.
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>>171804302
fucking hell
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>>171804242
>Everyone thinks of him in the context of ambush royal where he'll be meh and the other archetypes don't need him or lack the ability to raise his def. There's going to be a sea of wards thanks to Grimnir.

you can raise his def with forge weapon but i mostly think of him in aggro/midrange sword without any additional ambush support

if it existed right now it would make albert sword even more crazy
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>>171796750
>nep shadow has a 75% winrate vs ramp dragon
>it also has a 50% winrate overall
It's almost like the deck only had one good matchup or something.
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>>171804064
Because Storm cards already take a hit to their base stats in exchange for being able to impact the game immediately. Why does you people keep asking for reduced evolve stats for cards that don't actually have an evolve effect?
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>>171804127
Roach is not played as a 2pp follower, it doesn't compete with lyrial and levi.
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>>171804457
It has 30% winrate against Seraph and something similar against DShift.
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>>171804406
Holy shit someone actually urdmemed in the manga? Picked the fuck up.
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>>171803857
>got to this page
>MC responds to this panel with <3 <3
Does the MC have a crush on Urias

If so, top tier taste
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>>171804457
>only had one good matchup
Not really.
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>>171804602
No wait it's the girl who was playing with him who crushes on him

Top tier taste anyway
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>>171804602
That's not the MC but the opposing team. Urias is her husbando, so much she refused to put any usable female followers. That's her nemesis
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>>171804751
>Lamp Dragon
>Secret Witch
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i wonder if vagabond frog is an officer or a commander... likely an officer
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>>171804406
Someone needs to translate this shit
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>>171803707
When are we getting Hime-sama?
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>>171804504
For balancing purposes. Storm cards are designed to go face in most situations. It's stupid that you can evolve them and get full value from it. Rush, Storm, and Ward should all get +1/1 from evolving while cards with evolve effects should get no stat bonus at all. It's common sense.
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>>171804787

>No female followers
>In semen demoncraft

Well, her deck is gimped to hell then.
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>>171804787
So that's why there was a Goliath and a Fighter...

That's some dedication to love, I approve
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>>171804858
This is google translated.
Secret Witch is Dirt.
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>>171804937
iirc if you google translate game-ai's interface dirt rune is called mecca witch somewhere
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>>171804858
Ramp dragon and I dont know for the other one
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>>171804858
>not being a lamp enthusiast
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>>171804450
You know, it might actually work as a meme deck if you can drop frog before creed's and get a well on on the board on curve. That way he "heals" 1-2 per turn. You can use evo, that, and his ambush to keep him upright A gemstaff t4 to get his feet under him and probably a quickblader to get the trade. t5 you evo him while dropping a creed and a second well of destiny

After which, Well is 1 def, cloud chorus is 3 def, forge is 2 def, fencer is 1 def, gemstaff is 2 def, rousing step is 1 def, Lecia+assassin protects him, admiral is 2 def, Arreit fully heals him and gives lethal while Roland gets durandal out so it's harder to snipe him. walfrid is 2 def
At any point of having to cope with white general evo trades, you can cyclone blade their board twice and face.
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>>171805154
lamp up and jo!
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>>171804751
>control royal
>control vamp
>sunshine bishop
>lamp dragon
>Sub-50 against every deck that people actually play

Wew. I don't actually care anyway since I play mid and meme decks, but it's comical that people actually complain about this deck. When does Shadow get a broken card to answer their 27-73 Seraph matchup?
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>>171805235
I'll JO to you, Vampy.
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>>171805214
oh, i forgot that he also gives a very sticky cyclone target
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>>171804751
>27.8% against seraph
>no one cries about it
>which is about the same as the dragon v nep matchup
>KHAWY IS CANCER DELETE NEP WHY IS MY FAVORITE CARD ZNIRTRA SO FUCKING SHIT
Really overflow my eggs
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>>171800618
>>171800705
>>171800849
>>171800979

Any tips here? I like Rune, Haven, Shadow and Blood the most...
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Since Lightining Blast was revealed i'm pic related.

one friend even asked if i fucked some hot girl.

anyone can make a version of forte in pic related?
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You shouldn't be able to see either player's hand during a tournament, I feel like that completely removes any sense of drama you should be having while watching the game and just turns it into a game of just waiting to see who does the obvious misplay first.
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>>171804409
>buries it
>implying

It will still wreck control sword if people try to run it. It will wreck people stupid enough to play control forest without wolf bolt. It will still be strong against control blood, though you might have to tech amulet removal.

Literally the only matchup that is getting significantly worse is the matchup that was completely and utterly retarded vs dragon. And it won't even be dominated by dragon like people think. It will be a more even matchup and will largely come down to who draws all of the Neps/removals first.

They are giving support to other shadow deck types anyways because it seems like they'd rather see new things every expansion. Though to be honest we always get the same shit with some unga sword dominating at the end so I guess they've always failed us in that regard.
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>>171805293
I don't know what point you are trying to make.
Not complaining about the deck, but Nep has a 51% winrate overall, what is higher than a lot of decks
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>>171805293
>>171805293
>When does Shadow get a broken card to answer their 27-73 Seraph matchup?

Never, because FRIENDSHIP ENDED WITH SERAPH, NOW AEGIS IS MY BEST FRIEND
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>>171805417
Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 2800 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs

From here it depends If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily Turn that gold into more tickets Log in daily for the login reward You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets You'll just piss away your dosh and time. Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself

Don't liquefy your cards in general Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquefy extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras From that experience you'll know what you want be able to craft from your liquefied extras while still being able to play a bunch of budgets
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>>171804883
>rush cards should get +1/+1 from evloving
It's not like they gain anything else beside stats, they already have rush.
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>>171805738
>>171805738
>>171805738
>>171805738
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>3x 20g missions
>scared to reroll in case I get a card pack mission
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>>171805417
the expansion is really close you shouldn't make anything since updates inSV change all the meta.

at least you can play with Elana Seraph for. now.
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>>171805417
Vial Latham, Deathmist Dragon, Elf of the Gemstones, Jeanne, Fairy Princess and Beast Dominator. Those cards are all trash. Out of them, the only one that is actually used, Fairy Princess, is only used on a terrible meme deck that is just going to become even more obscure after the expansion.
Use those vials to make an Elana deck. Don't care too much about legendaries other than your one-of Lucifer right now, you are just starting, you can climb and have fun with Odin/Olivia-less Elana. Elana is also getting some decent tools in the expansion.
>Seraph
>Nephthys
Rowen is pleased
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>>171805871
>>171805417
You can also safely vial First Curse, it's another garbage card that I forgot to mention.
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>>171805417
Those are some okayish draws, but with the expansion in the horizon, I'm hesitant on telling you to reroll (or vial until the next expansion hits).

Do what >>171805630 says. Try farming some ez/meme wins in the B tier rankings to get your wins and collect gold and rewards so that you could build up a more more substantial pile of gold and vials. Once the new meta for the expansion settles, then you could have an idea on what you want to build, then you could vial the bad cards in favor of the better cards.
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>>171805417
Not that good but far from as bad as it could be. read arena guides and stick it out as you have starters for a ton of decks that you'll be able to get online as you get your starter shit done. Liquefy extras will let you make some core golds for the deck you want to play now that you've been through the campaign.. After a while of doing arena after you did all the starter shit you'll be able to have most of the golds of a deck you want and that's really all you need or a lego or two.

First rule of shadowverse, /svg/ is largely shitters regurgitating >opinions they don't understand and are generally beyond terrible at the game. Most of their "opinions" are in complete disregard that you lack the better cards that make an older card "bad" and often are of the mindset that doesn't mind completely obliterating your ability to play other decks for 1.5+ months of hard arena grinding to bounce back from. A lot of meh cards are being revitalized by TotG cards and it's going to always be like that moving forward. That a card is worse than a card you don't have isn't worth vialing 5+ cards to make nor is it worth chucking a lego for a gold. You'll get plenty of cards if you stay the course.
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>>171805871
>Gemstones
>Jeanne
>Princess
>Beast dominator
>Trash
Kill yourself my man
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>>171803625
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>>171802356
>T2 can refer to turn 2, take 2, or tier 2
MAKE IT STOP
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>>171806310
Just because you like to keep them for masturbation purposes it doesn't mean they are playable in the slightest.
Also, please, ironic posting will confuse new players.
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>>171806490
Yes, blow out 30 packs worth of viable cards you have for maybe 1 or 2 cards. Great job.
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>>171803625
I can keep going
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>>171806650
Nice shitposting.
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>>171806715
Yours is top shelf, griefer.
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>>171805417
Here is a pic that can help you decide to vial some of the cards you don't need. Keep in mind that this list might become obsolete when the exp hits.
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>>171807114
Beast dominator will be strong in vengeancecraft decks on top of all the other concerns I raised the other times you tried to get people to fuck themselves over.
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