/rlg/ - Roguelike General

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>>171780040

>>171780120
>only two priests awake
>can just go upstairs
that's not a bad stop at all.

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>>171468962
Version 2

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>>171780289
I forgot to remove it while copy pasting, sorry..

>>171780325
00 dubs exist in /vg/ though

>>171780325
>no ponyRL
shitlist

>>171780325
Rolling

>>171780590
I haven't played Nethack in a year

Oh well

>>171780590
>>171780721
>UnNethack

archaeologist!

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>>171780395
just remember to make sure you have the real amulet~

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>>171780789
Seconded.

>>171780325
>tfw have a mac and can't play like 90% of these

Accepting graduation gifts from kindly uncles was a MISTAKE

any game that can't be played over ssh isnt a real roguelike anyways

>>171780936
emulate, son

>>171780325
Might as well roll myself.

I'll be happy as long as it's not Noxico.

>>171780789
I'll only play as the easiest class to win

But first I must find which one is it

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>>171780869
Silly, that wasnt me, i was just telling that other anon not to bully the poor anon who made a mistake!

>>171781153
Moria it is then.

Death Swords are neat

I just wish I could survive past level 30 with them.
Give me back my Morgul droprates Chris you faggot.

>>171780325
give me that fucking maidensnow

>>171782146
InCaveAd for you

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Such a shame that these grandmaster mystics don't stun. But of course that would be TOO POWERFUL

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What's the best anime roguelike that isn't Elona?

I'm a possessed Yeti possessing Yetis.

>>171782658
The only other one I can think of is animeband and I've never even seen somebody actually play it
This is your chance to pioneer a whole new generation of bandposters!

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>>171782784
>has to be compiled
Fuck

>>171782981
There's a binary right on the website, just scroll down
http://angband.oook.cz/animeband/ports.html

>>171782658
Elonaplus, duh

>>171782658
maidensnow is anime
also omega labyrinth

>>171783107
I can't believe I didn't see that

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>>171780590
>90

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>>171781301
>finally find a port that works
>it's this monstrosity

>>171783235
I might do this one day

One day

>>171783512
You may

>>171783341
That's uh, certainly something.

I think Castle of the Winds might've had a better interface.

>>171783341
yeah the NPP interface upgrade port thing is comically bad

>>171780325
roll

>>171782658
If you can tolerate the terrible map generation and limited content pool, Maidensnow is fun as fuck.

>>171783785
>Telengard
http://www.roguebasin.com/index.php?title=Telengard
>A simple real-time system: If the player goes about 5 seconds without entering a command the game will automatically choose the Stay (s) command. Outside of battle this will result in an encounter with an enemy or the discovery of an item. In battle it lets the enemy attack without the player's character taking any actions.
>real-time
>real
>time
fucking trash roguelite
reroll

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>imfuckingplying I need light resistance

wow next you'll tell me I need shard resistance right?

>>171784053
The controls are weird and confusing. I played it a bit but couldn't get used to them.

>>171784168
You literally dont need light resistance though.
There are like 3 things in the whole game that do light damage.

>>171784128
Still turn-based.

Your turns are under a time limit though.

>>171784128
Telengard is considered the first proto-roguelike.

You should document this for /rlg/.

>>171784053
Maidensnow's issue is that the gameplay is directionless. Character progression is virtually nonexistent and I still have no idea what quest objective you're supposed to pursue in that damn game.

>>171784721
>and I still have no idea what quest objective you're supposed to pursue in that damn game.
Getting raped

>>171771656
wow she's hot
also fuck ferret
i kill all ferrets i encounter in game

>>171780936
>>mac
>>can't play like 90% of these

Wine Bottler lets you basically reverse that statistic, I know it can turn Infra Arcana into a working app.

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first time trying out a possessor. pretty fun so far. any tips for me?

I don't get why Rogue isn't recommended more. I am assuming just because it isn't actively in development and if you want to play on a modern system you have to play a fan port, but I don't see how that is a big deal but whatever.

Playing it really takes the learning curve out of the genre (the game itself is quite simpler will still having all key mechanics) and it still holds up to this day.

>on the C:DDA / screen you can press , and move all items from one screen to the other, though it consumes ingame time; more items you move, the longer it takes
>or you can press M and move them all in two ingame turns at no other cost
What is this nonsense?

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>>171785505
>any tips for me?
Your wanted uniques list are guaranteed bodies. If you're lucky, you'll have some good ones on there.
Animals are strong early on when they have good speed and attacks, and your gear is poor anyway.

>>171786257
Rogue isn't a roguelike

>>171787220
this general loves games that arent roguelikes though
cdda spent some time as fotm

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>>171787117
thanks, anon. i'll have to check my wanted list. I've been a cave spider from level 5 to 10 so im thinking i should switch it up soon. I'm going to stick to melee though.
hopefully lagduf's corpse drops. wish me luck, /rlg/

>>171787378
hell, CDDA is currently FotM if the past few generals are anything to go by

>>171780207
I think that it takes 2-3 turns to go upstairs, and they can all notice and smite the player in that time. Joseph can sling a stone over there too.

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It's my first time in Tomb and I already unimaginably hate this place.

>>171788565
Enjoy
No fire cbow?

>>171788565
I've never been in tomb but by looking at this picture I know that I will hate it

>>171789095
I'm with TSO so shit is working fine but there's this one long-ass corridor and Greater Mummies keep spawning in it, it's fucking hell on earth because you have to either burn consumables or manfight and manfighting only means more of them come at you. Honest to god fuck fucking mummies

>>171788948
only one hand crossbow and like three fucking thousand billion arbalests of freezing, but the triple velo cbow is doing wonders, carried my ass through Zot

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possessor here. how's hobbes? worth getting rid of my cave spider? or should I go for a giant spider?

>>171789494
In the future, consider picking up Silence for tomb

The best way to prevent torment and infinite summons and smite and more mummies hearing you and showing up to fight is to just silence all the dead bastards

>>171780325
Rolling. I better not regret this shit.

>>171789872
Fuck me, I'm dumb. I thought mummies were not affected by Silence, kinda like demons. Fucking hell that would have made this whole mess so much easier. Honestly tho, do they have to summon infinite fucking emperor scorpions? I can deal with the constant torments, but the scorpions are hella annoying to deal with.

>>171788565
How to clear Tomb as a TSO follower:

0) Get Invo to decently high level.
1) Summon Divine Warriors all the fucking time
2) Spam Cleansing Flame when the biggest baddies are near
3) Stairdance when tons of torment users are on screen
4) Switch to Zin and Vitalization/Recite/Imprison everything

But yeah, Tomb is always nerve-wracking -- and yet, if you don't really care about saving time, it's probably the most "beatable" extended branch besides Slime/Abyss.

What is more important runes or turncount

>>171791161
win rate

>>171791161
tumcount

>>171790873
I am actually gonna go Zin for Pandemonium because I fucking hate everything but I decided to switch things round and go TSO for Tomb since I've never done it before (only managed a 5 rune before and TSO seemed like a decent thing because of cleansing flame). Everything right now feels like popcorn except for when the mummies get the scorpion horde rolling and just hiding like cunts tormenting from the back

in cdda i threw down grenades and blew my own legs off in a last ditch effort to survive, and it killed all of the zombies but my legs got blown off but i survived somehow? what do i do from here?

>>171790873
>and yet, if you don't really care about saving time, it's probably the most "beatable" extended branch besides Slime/Abyss.

This

With enough stairdancing, silence, aura of abjuration, and something decently killy like dispel undead or just tabdudes, you could definitely do tomb for a 3rd rune. Having Zin/TSO/Kiku/Statueform all helps make sure you don't get instaboned by a bad torment/smite sequence, but the reason I avoid tomb is because it's fucking tedious to play optimally there but unlike the hells, you don't get to go fast- only slow.

>>171790873
btw, do you have any tips for Hell, other than 27invo Zin mash recite? How do I deal with Ereshkigal, Shard Shrikes and everything in Tartarus?

>>171791426
Craft leg splints, put them on, and sit around until your legs regrow.

>>171791481
Makhleb + good defenses such as Statue Form or Necromut to laugh at torment spammers
TSO is shitto compared to the true King of Otab

Is PCBR's device decursing supposed to be 100% ? I read quite a few scrolls and they didn't remove it.

>>171791161
turncount literally doesnt matter at all unless youre going for speedrun records

>>171792252
Are you sure you didnt fail to pronounce it correctly? Or maybe its an ancient foul curse?

>>171791481
For Zin, Imprison is AMAZING in the right moments. If you stumble upon a torment-user or two who you can't (or don't want to) deal with right away, Imprison allows you to shut them down -- or in the simplest sense, close the gap between you and them until they're free.

For Ereshkigal, hope you get a lucky recitation. If not, be sure to go fast: buff yourself up before getting to her room, and either smash her face in quickly or find the rune and run. Imprison might be helpful for the latter choice.

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Immersion!

>>171793385
I didn't think you could get TY or heavy curses on wands. Definitely read it correctly as I went through something like six scrolls thinking maybe it had a chance to succeed (though one has always been enough before).

>>171791643
>legs get blown off
>jam wood sticks into leg stumps
>wood sticks slowly turn into legs
This is what I like to think

>>171783341

All the finest libraries Windows 3.1 had to offer

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Level 50 rage-mage reporting in. If I can survive the lategame uniques and scrounge up speed, it'll be endgame time.

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Well, this explains why my health seemed low.

>>171795778
You are a substantially more patient man than I.

>>171795778
nice, congrats on living

do you still get a billion mana from having shout hit your bros of the dawn?

>>171794693
having your leg hp hit 0 just means your legs are broken, not that they literally got blown off

>>171796798
I know but that's what I like to imagine

I wonder if loss of limbs will ever be implemented though

>>171797050
it is implemented
but only for left hands

>>171797194
>tfw left-handed

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>>171797835
>tfw not left handed

>>171796798
You can also repair your burnt (or acid-dissolved) legs with a splint.

>>171796443
I don't know about allies (the situations where I'd be both shouting and also summoning aren't frequent) but acquiring mp isn't a big issue now that I have the 4th book's focus rage ability. It's like a really goofy craft mage who buffs before/throughout battle.

sidenote: ragestrike gives me heavy stun status, so it appears mostly useless for consistent use

>>171799157
ragestrike does not stun you if you are currently berserk
actually quite a lot of ragemage shit becomes better while berserk
the two summon spells summon hasted dudes
spell turning jumps from 35% to 50% chance
armor of fury's debuffs last 3 turns instead of 1 on enemies
the sp you gain from damaging enemies is pretty significantly increased
focus *rage* goes from 60hp/120sp to 100hp/200sp
spell turning has its saving throw bonus doubled from 20 to 40

and some other shit as well

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just starting to play unangband- is there anyway to change the x's to something else? possibly just a black space like in poschengband

how do i get long lasting / low maintenance lighting into my underground hideout in cdda?

>>171799983
lightstrips/atomic nightlight
headlight/floodlight vehicle structure with storage batteries if you can construct underground
not sure if there's anything in the build menu
flashlight bionic

>>171799983
also oil lamps i guess

>>171799983
Atomic lamp is the most convenient, though it and the recipe are rare. Gasoline lantern isn't bad either, at least in town where fuel is everywhere.

You can also build a "vehicle" underground and either use an engine + alternator or charge batteries on the surface and swap them into your machine. The lights on the controls are bright enough to read by if you stand on top of them, and use far less power than headlights.

>>171799983
step one JTR
step two forehead flashlight

>>171784721
>and I still have no idea what quest objective you're supposed to pursue in that damn game.
1) get to the church without getting raped
2) find and kill the five boss monsters

Alternatively just see how degenerate you can get without getting fucked into a coma.

>>171799942
Try toggling "map marked by detect traps" in the map options.

>>171799429
A case study in the importance of documentation

>>171801456
more like tryhard autistic minmaxing retards have no sense of intuition and can't handle some mystery in their alphabet soup games

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>>171801232
don't see that under display options w/ the other map options? I've tried hitting yes/no on everything on this screen to no avail

>>171797835
me too!
and my dad, all his brothers, and their dad.

>>171802006
Damn, view_unsafe_grids is what toggles that in PCB. Thought it'd be in unang as wel. Sorry man.

>>171802794
no worries. thanks for the help.

>>171781027
This but unironically

>>171801806
I bet you play nethack unironically

>>171802006
>>171802794
maybe it's under another options submenu
I bet it's an opt somewhere in there.

>>171780325
eh

i'm playing pcbr and I just got to 20 for the first time as a demigod of zeus warrior. I'm starting to get a bunch of {excellent} items now, and I was hoping you guys could give me some tips on when/what to start *identify*ing. It's expensive af early

>>171801806
Minmaxing is the most fun thing to do in roguelikes

>>171805179
identify armor first since that's most likely to get big returns

but really you'll be swimming in gold soon, and most *band players play with easy ID on so as to circumvent the ID minigame after level 25

Thinking of making some Deathsword improvements for R.
However, I probably should merge into 6.0 before that. Maybe I'll wait until pseudo does it.

>>171783235
Can you not

>>171806520
>Deathsword improvements

Sweet merciful lord, thank you.
What kind of improvements?

>Playing deathsword

>>171810430
I am not actually sure. So far I was thinking of giving them amulet slot ( sort of wrapped around the hilt ) so you can fix up some early-game resistances, and perhaps allowing them to learn abilities like rings, even though they are bit rarer. Maybe look into values of the essences and whatnot.
I'll see into how I am gonna balance them. Currently doing a playthrough and seeing how they fare.

>>171780325
Keep on rollin rollin rollin rollin

>>171811079
>Amulet slot (wrapped around the hilt)
>Abilities from absorbed weapons (like rings)
>Essence rebalancing

It's funny, I was thinking what one could do about death swords since they're basically all I play and besides giving them greater speed boosts on evolving this is what I came up with too.

>>171811410
Probably will adjust how disenchantment affect them, too.

>>171811079
Watch out for shard resistance, I found it almost impossible to get without grinding since so few weapons have it innately

>>171798479
The goo has changed all of humanity, even those who haven't risen as zombies. Everybody gets rapid healing, and the goo has replaced most infectious diseases.

>>171811553
disenchant adjusts, essence rebalancing so that extremely rare resistances are easier to get but the regular ones stay the same
adjusting how essence requirements change on evolving

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Oh what might this be

>>171813632
Who is this Tim guy and why does he get all the cool stuff?

>>171806520
haha pseudo has just been using elliptic's merges hasn't it?

>>171814194
It is PCB->elliptic->pseudo->R.

But anyway, I started merging manually.
It's gonna be nightmare once I need to remerge into pseudo.

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>>171780040
Wait a fucking minute, who the fuck redacted the >Individual Game Pastas link to the outdated version? According to the archives, we've been using the old version FOR NEARLY TWO MONTHS. Well done, faggots.

PROPER LINK:
http://pastebin.com/V7MzidCu

we need to update the PCB pasta as well, i think it's from 3.5.0 or earlier

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Done with merge conflicts.
Now to do the refactoring.

oh joy.

>>171816295
How about you copypaste and update the old pasta as needed into a new pastebin, post in thread, and we tell you if it needs anything else, then update the Individual Game Pasta again.

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>so this is the final tier of blob, huh?
>wait, you can load it? it shoots water?
>wonder how much damage that does
>try it out
well, that was a close one.

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>>171816831

>>171816831
Holy shit. It's a rocket launcher that shoots... water??

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This thing is super lewd.
>>171817098
Something like that.

>>171817247
It also has 12 jacking quality, which is pretty remarkable. It's not a gel razor but that's still pretty dank

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>>171816460
For anyone curious about how much fun fixing merge-conflicts when pulling upstream.

It loses my shopping-changes too, fuck.
I am gonna call quits now and work this later this week/end

>>171817247
>level 12 jacking
>rated for 13227 pounds
>weighs in at a whopping 47 POUNDS OF FLESH AND SLIME
Cata gets weirder and weirder.

>>171818035
blob vehicles are part of a mod, to be fair

>>171818104
I don't think anyone played vanilla cata if they had a choice, even when cata wasn't dda. Mods were always the essential experience.

>>171817402
<3

>>171818104
It's a cool mod, although I think some of the recipes should be book-locked. I feel weird just knowing how to do slime magic.

Is PCB the logical conclusion of Moria/*bands? There is just so much stuff in PCB I just don't see how you could take it and create a new *band based off of PCB.

>>171818859
it still doesnt have the "magical girl" or "tentacle monster" classes from animeband, so its not complete

>>171818917
amy pls go

>>171818917
that's not really worth creating a whole new *band for though, just a fork. Maybe if PCB combined with something like FAband, ToME 2.3.5, or Sil a new game could be made.

>>171817402
My only experience is with something vastly less complicated (and in python, for whatever that's worth) and just seeing that makes me mildly antsy.

>>171818859
I suppose you could specialize in some specific part of it. Go all in on monster races or something.

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sil is my first time ever playing a rl. things are going okay but theres this thing in the middle of the room and i have no idea what it is and im terrified please send help.

>>171819614
>imgur filename
for what purpose

anyways you can use 'l'ook or something to see its description cant you?
its a chasm, aka hole
if you fall in you will fall to a lower level and take damage
if you had some way to jump or dig around you might be able to cross

>>171819758
i dont have a shovel so i think the latter is out of the question, and i didnt see anything about jumping on the Help screens, unless that's ctrl+direction function?

>>171819886
you need talents or magical items to be able to jump that far

but in any case you don't actually NEED to cross it, i'm just saying that you COULD

>>171819886
typically you need an item or an ability to grant yourself jumping, but I don't know how it is with Sil. I doubt it, Jump is a pretty powerful movement option.

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i jumped down and this happened. well shit.

>>171820085
why would you jump

>>171820085
Evoke feet

>>171820085
>sleeping
you will be fine.
watch out for the uniques and their ganking posse that start spawning around 250-400.

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>>171820937
I need to die more. But I got lucky with a Battle Axe of Gondolin that is apparently built to wreck Orcs. The person who suggested this to me said that most new players die consistently at 200ft. until they learn their lessons.

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What the literal fuck. What were they all doing in there together?

>>171821598
the AI in Sil is sort of smart, they will refuse to enter hallways and instead try to gank you in open rooms and surround you or send a detachment to block off the other end of the hallway to prevent you from fleeing. You are also standing right next to a staircase, and new enemies come into the floor your on through both up and down stairways. uniques on the first few floors will come with a posse of generic orcs that are dangerous since they can flank and trap you.

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>>171821747
I didn't know that the warning shouts traveled up/down levels. Thanks.

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>You are aware of 83 monsters

>Knight templar (71 awake)

>>171821969
I don't think things on the other side of the stairs actually exist until you go up/down them.
When that unique spawns, he spawns in with twenty of his buddies.

>>171821969
While Sil is about the heroic slaying of monsters, its also about knowing when to run away from monsters that are too tough to fight. Some monsters like wraiths or sword spiders will "not deign to pursue you" and will stop coming after you when your out of their line of sight. If the enemies present on your depth are too deadly, you can always go back up the stairs to try and get new loot, generate a new level with different enemies, or more xp, as long as your not at the minimum depth

>>171821969
What is Lord Humongous doing there

>>171822507
>71 summoners
>they summon the most annoying enemies in the game, aka "oh i will just go invincible and summon more copies of myself", aka angels
fuck that
if they were ultra-elite paladins it might be werth

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>>171822507
yesss

>>171822770
That is why I stopped back in the android rune knight days. That shit was so tedious, especially while amberites and demons were running around while you were waiting that out.

>>171822984
I mean it's not really that bad in a game with an infinite supply of literallywalkaway unless you have some inner masochistic desire to actually fight them.

>>171823056
It just turned into this stupid game of "detect, if bad, scum and try again". That isn't a game I want to play. And I'm the biggest advocate of foot evocation there is. Everything loses meaning when you can just scum forever.

Need some tips for moving around more efficiently in PCB... Is there any command for going directly to staircases?

>>171823243
maybe DCSS is more your "speed"

>>171823458
Why don't you like interface improvements

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>>171822770
>anti-summon corridor

>annihilate tough angels, let blue angels remain so they can hit you with their pillows

literally free stuff - unfortunately nothing amazing, just like 10-15 !healing and a vamp helm

>>171823243
Shift-move to get through large rooms/corridors quickly; just make sure to fix your interrupt settings so you stop when enemies are near

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>>171823513
The more needlessly obtuse the better. I like it when you literally cannot function as an archer without fucking around with the settings.

Remember to get up and walk around at least once per hour of rogueliking /rlg/

you can't splat characters if you splat yourself

>>171825654
>scumming more health by walking in circles
Disgusting.
You should only move when there's someplace you want to go.

so how do you get bigger stats in Cataclysm
I feel like the starting stats are really low

>>171827239
>lower intelligence
>mutate
>butcher shocker brutes

>>171827450
>dump intelligence
>become a furry
>become a cybernetic god
Hmmmmmmmm

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>>171827498
>yfw ur to dumb to dump intelligence
books r fo nerds
street smarts r the reel smarts

>indefatigable costs two (2) points
I feel like this is kind of expensive but I gotta go fast

>>171829162
It only gives you a bigger pool, not regen

>>171829213
>can sprint longer
I feel like this is really really strong, but I might drop it and good hearing for robust genetics. Hmmm
Is there anything stopping you from being a bionic mutant or do people just fetishize one or the other?

>>171829301
Nothing, the strongest characters are all idorts.
But mutating is pretty boring and requires commitment.

Regarding the deathsword changes for R ( I am probably gonna push them for old version before I work them for new one ).
Disenchantment no more directly drains the to_dam/to_hit, but instead drains essences.

This was in game, but it was more rough and called less often ( it was called with 50% when the dispelling effect triggered ), and drained some 5% - 20% from ALL essences - depending on rank.

Currently what I am thinking is that if save is failed against disenchantment, a single essence is picked ( heavy focus on to_hit / to_acc / to_ac ), and then drained. Bit heftier, but capped the a value defined by level.
Some rare essences are protected from the fate, like speed, etc.

I'll probably copy it over ring, too.

>>171829961
make sure that it's unpleasant but not crippling

>>171806520
>making deathswords actually playable
the absolute madman

>>171815741
oh hey you're right.
That's got the whole outdated ivan pasta and everything.
Good catch.

>>171817247
>12 jacking quality
>shoots "water"
>willing to accomodate you

Lewd as hèck.

>>171830310
If you are curious, this is how I rewrote the resource-draining: http://pastebin.com/b0053V69

It would occur in place of disenchantment, at 50% chance.

>>171821969
orcs are actually a lot smarter than they look in the movies. They're no dumber than the average foot soldier in WW2, as you can read from the books

>>171823535
>vamp helm
do vampiric helmets actually give your weapon vampiric properties? I remember putting one on as a monk but didn't get any lifedrain out of it.

>>171825948
and do so diagonally

>>171830814
They can generate with it rarely. I got such helmet once.

>>171831145
yeah,but does it work on all weapons? Are monks just commented out from the formula?

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Alrighty, all seems to work. I'll just adjust base-resistance gaining.

>>171831190
Can't remember if monks are excluded from it. I could check from code.

>>171831437
that's neat.
How about letting them absorb amulet essences too for those pesky disenchant/chaos/shards resistances

>>171831437
Probably not, frankly. At the moment I am gonna keep it weapons-only, although I am gonna adjust the values required for those resistances.

Plus I was perhaps thinking of allowing some more abilities to spice up otherwise pretty simple gameplay. Not sure what yet.

>>171831540
Nah, way too powerful.

>>171831437
Anyway, the current deathsword changes were pushed.
What was changed:
>Deathsword bodies can now equip amulets.
>The amount of essences needed for sound / shards / disenchantment / sound was reduced ( 4->3 )
>Getting disenchanted was altetered. Instead of losing to-damage or to-hit, you lose essences.
>Base life was increased to 40 from 30.
>However, shop-multiplier was dropped from 110 to 100. Deathswords already swim in money just by the fact that they can sell almost every piece of non-weapon gear they find.

I still have some changes in mind ( ex. abilities ), but gonna do them later.

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god damn shit fuck what the hell
thanks game
Am I going to get turned inside out and dissected by this fucking Mi-Go
is it going to shoot lightning balls at me
how fucked am I, out of 10

>>171833164
>is it going to shoot lightning balls at me
Sounds like PKmod

>>171780325
Rollerino

>>171833274
reference to Infra Arcana
the dissection was a Lovecraft reference

>>171833324
OK then
Vanilla mi-gos are tough, but nothing a 3-in-combat-skills nu-survivor couldn't handle

>>171833442
I just walked away
There was an LMOE on the minimap so I'm just fucking off to there, I'll come back when I have a weapon to loot the helicopter crash site.

oh fuck, the LMOE was next to a swamp
jesus christ fucking hell, are swamps still as bad as they were in old versions

>>171833591
Free jerky, more than you could ever need

>>171833591
Not even close. Swamps are ezmodo now.

I died and now there's a moose outside the new shelter

>>171833591
Dcss? Lmoe?
If its dcss, swamp isnt that hard, it was always dependant a lot on your resistances and background obviously

>>171834419
No, not THE swamp, A swamp. LMOE stands for Last Man On Earth, it's a shelter with a bunch of loot. Cataclysm, the same thing that I've been blogging about for the past couple of threads.
Context, nigga.

>>171823243
>is there any command for going directly to staircases?
yes. Use ` then < or > then .

>>171834492
Sorry, im unfamiliar with other roguelikes..

>>171834638
Why are you even here? You should honestly branch out a bit, try some new flavors, if you're going to stick around.

>>171834686
>why is a dcss player in /dcssg/?
You have been nominated for the Stupidest Post in the Thread™ Award! click [here] to find out more!

>>171833045
Now afterwards, I have idea for absorbing certain {special} weapons grant unique abilities etc.

>>171816460

Reminds me of one of my jobs, where I worked in a vast C++ codebase and TFS couldn't merge for shit.

here's something if you want to laugh at me. guess I'm not a goodplayer yet.

http://pastebin.com/3W1RCASN

>>171833045
Why not making it so that they can enchant themselves at the shop?

>>171838537
>Killed by blast of rock fragments (87 damage)
Anon.. What are you doing anon

>>171838537
Turns out that blowing yourself up with LRD is a bad idea, huh?

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>>171838537
>X - ring "Owea" {rF+++ rN+++ MP+9 Str-2}
Also
>That beam is likely to hit you. Continue anyway?
>The earth elemental shatters!
kek

>>171838781
casting LRD on earth elementals that are standing next to him while wielding a staff of earth

>>171838537
I guess op edition fits perfectly

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>>171838537
That ring is amazing how the fuck did you di-

>Lee's Rapid Deconstruction
>That beam is likely to hit you. Continue anyway?

...oh.

Got time for some *fun*, I'm gonna try out the new deathswords.

Wait, nope
unless I did something wrong with wine just running the poscheng executable I grabbed from the recently updated master doesn't work

can someone link me to the best fork of poschengband

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Casualshitter here,just started this game and it seems pretty manageable so far
is it gonna get insanely difficult later on?
>muh tiles

>>171839994
>demigod
Good choice

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>>171839994
Earlygame is the most dangerous.

>>171838770
That's one way, but the maximum is not set strictly. There is 1/15 chance of gaining dice, then half/half-chances of gaining acc/dam. I could estimate minimum you can enchant to.

But frankly, I kinda like this interaction better. Gotta test it though.

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R>vanilla

>>171827239
Increase the starting stat points

Enable the Stats Through Skills mod, which allows you to eventually raise every stat to 20 by grinding skills

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My offense still sucks
Angels do get a ton of utility spells though

>>171829961
make sure that Disenchant can't drain rDisenchant essences either
that would just be fucked up

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Nice tunic

>>171848813
>tfw you get one of these on Android and want to keep wearing it forever but you can gain like 5 levels by ditching it for some garbage Dwarf or Olog platemail

do you just hold books to know the recipe in CDDA?

>>171780325
Roll

>>171849506
You don't have to hold the books you just need them to be nearby, like with other crafting tools.

You can stick them all in a bookshelf in your RV or something as long as you hang out in LOS of it while crafting.

>>171849598
I like to stuff them in my bed for easy sleep/eat/read cycles.

Somehow this is still comfortable to sleep on.

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hey one !newlife brought me from 90 liferating to 115, thats pretty good

I was almost at 18/120 wis because of a shitload of potion drops though, it's a shame to lose 4 points in my samurai's casting stat

Felid Berseker best class

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fuck me, 50' early. can I take him with my current stats? I have song of slaying but I'm worried that his escorts will flank me from behind.

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>100 damage/turn
>cleared all the easy fungeons
>still too early to farm ancient dragons
I mean I could go farm ancient reds near the volcano considering they have 1000 hp and I can take take them down in 10 hits and I have RF 72% but still they pack a big punch.

>>171852680
honor demands his death
http://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Gorgol
maybe he'll have a cool ring you can loot

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this is an artifact?

Does the babble resist psycho spears?

>>171854068
it's immune to all magic so yes

>>171851425
I did that shit IRL in college
it's comfy

>>171846909
>returns to subdue D's
If this angel looks anything like the Bible-esque one you posted a couple of threads ago, it can subdue my D any time.

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>>171856146
Anon please, she's an agent of order

>>171856516
They call it "the institution of marriage," for a reason, anon.

>I found this Rivtech powerarmor, but it needs plutonium to function, where can I find some?
>oh, this forum says that you can get lots of it from missile silos, you just have to disarm the missile, then you can smash in the sides of the missile with a sledgehammer, ez
>terrain.h agrees, says that when you smash it you get 0-3 plutonium cells per tile
>and hey, there's a missile silo not twenty tiles north of me!
DO NOT DO THIS
YOU DO NOT GET LOTS OF PLUTONIUM
YOU GET INFINITE NUCLEAR EXPLOSIONS TO THE FACE

>>171857278
No shit

>>171857372
it's not realistic at all

if you could make nuclear explosions just by hitting a pile of plutonium with a hammer the US wouldn't have needed top physicists to spend a year figuring out how to build nukes at the Manhattan Project

nuclear explosions are really hard to do guys

>>171857557
>it's not realistic at all
NO SHIT

>>171857372
I assumed that nuclear explosions being what they are, the people that made nuclear missiles would want them to be as stable and hard to set off as they reasonably can.

It did not occur to me that instead they would make them volatile enough to blow up when some nut with a sledgehammer starts wailing on it.

That said, I also assumed that "disarm missile" was something other than a fancy way of breaking the console.

>>171857692
>>171857557
The explosions are scripted.
Silos still use whales' old code.
They're a bugfest.

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>when Pendragon drops an ego shield
>but it's the most useless possible ego, and now you can't even reforge onto it
at least its worth lots of androidxp, not that I can actually use it because my current shieldslot is for actual useful resists

>>171857652
i mean the cdda devs are realismfags about a lot of other shit
they're inconsistent as fuck though so sometimes you get shit like this, entire towns with no soap or antibiotics, etc

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>>171857692
>That said, I also assumed that "disarm missile" was something other than a fancy way of breaking the console.
It is.

>>171858247
I know it's an option on the console, but as far as I can tell, it didn't do anything but break the console. My sledgehammer could have done the same thing.

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alright the Samurai's "Mosou-Sandan" power at 39 is pretty great.
It makes exactly 3 blows and each of them is a guaranteed crit and has doubled damage on top of that.
If you already have 5 or 6 blows it probably ain't great, but if you wield a heavy as fuck weapon that has big dice but only gives you few blows, this power becomes amazing.

I only have ~200 damage/round with the Mattock of Kazad-Dum but with this power i seem to be doing more than 700 damage in a turn.

>>171857278
Yeah, I had the idea once to smash open one of the plutonium-powered generators you sometimes find on a military outpost.

Then it exploded and killed me.

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>it keeps exploding for a full minute
jesus christ on a pogo stick
Looks like every # that composes the missle explodes like a mininuke.

Did you try disassembling them?

>>171858487
>It makes exactly 3 blows and each of them is a guaranteed crit and has doubled damage on top of that.
Tomberry samurai looks pretty OP.

>>171858727
Note though that this costs 80sp and I only have 39 "max" sp. I can boost it up to 200 by spamming concentration before a fight but that's not exactly convenient for general use, only for uniques or tough enemies.

Almost oneshot Mordred with it just now but one of the three blows missed and she survived with 1*

>>171858605
>>171858591
Didn't you used to be able to break both of those and get materials without an explosion?

Turns out you can't disassemble them.
Well, apparently someone on the forums thought this was pretty funny then
doesn't explain why the terrain says something else though

Turns out there's two terrains: Missle (221) and "blown out missle (220).

Breaking the blown-out missle gives scrap metal.
Breaking the missle gives a nuclear explosion.
They both can't be disassembled.

>>171839961
https://github.com/GenericPseudonym/pseudoelliposchengband

https://github.com/floatRand/PoschengbandR

>>171858605
I pressed * and checked, but the "disassemble furniture" option wasn't lit up. I had an integrated toolset too, so it wasn't like I was just missing the tools either. Besides, terrain.h says that it can't be dismantled.

I brought an electric jackhammer with me in case the sledgehammer wasn't enough, but trying to use it just gave me a message to the effect of "you can't drill that!"

>>171859580
Missiles (along with fuel pumps and generators and atms for some reason) have the explosive field set in the jsons.

Presumably they do drop plutonium but the explosion destroys it anyway.

Oh I see what happens!
Breaking the missle does generate plutionium.
It also as you can see, creates a "explosion" field with a value of 100, which destroys the cells! (and kills you).

Looks like it's yet another silly implementation.
Let's see if I get the plutonium cells if I delete the explosion field

>>171860013
>and atms for some reason
This is a bright corporate future, citizen. The value of your money is protected with nuclear explosions. The collateral damage is unavoidable.

>>171780040
anyone got any decent roguelikes that you can play locally
except Gungeon, Spelunky, Isaac

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>>171860183
dark souls is pretty good
also bloodborne if youre not a poorfag and you own a praystation

>>171860313
oh fuck i messed up i meant local coop

>>171860183
>>171860313
>>171860368

go troll elsewhere worthless fags

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Yep, pretty much.
Easy peasy fix.
>>171860013
>ATMs have nuclear explosions
Goddamn DDA fix your code already

>>171853326
yes it is an artifact, but it is a randomly generated one, not a pre-designed one, so it doesn't say "it is a fabled artifact"

>>171860368
oh i see
Mario is a pretty good classic roguelike IMO, and it's had local coop all the way back to the first one

>>171859101
>Mordred
>She
Anon, Morded is the son of King Arthur and Morgan le Fey.

>>171860505
Please submit a commit containing this change.

>>171860935
Mod it yourself

>>171818917
ToME-SX has them.

>>171861030
But that's haram and cheating.

>>171861030
Why don't you just mod it? It's really fast man

>You have 3 potions of intelligence (g)
>You have 2 potions of constitution (h)
i fucking love elv warlocks

>some items have components that take up more space than the item does
Crafting is magic.

Another thing I've noticed: all the blobtech guns are really heavy. The lightest of them is technically a handgun but it's impossible to use it onehanded if you don't have hydraulic muscles because it's 35 pounds.

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>>171861474
>some items have components that take up more space than the item does
Magic pizza

>>171815741
Boobs

>>171780325
roll

>>171829301
Can't you get robust genetics pretty safely from fish serum?

Singlepool or multipool?

>>171863348
multi

>>171829301
>>171863620
>good hearing
>multipool
Why?

>>171858591
You can deconstruct those from the constructions menu with no risk of explosion. Not sure if that applies to missles, though. Actually, now that construction skill has been removed I don't know if that menu even exists anymore, I'm playing an older version.

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Victory! Normal Roguelike.

Wanted to try out the remade Archer class. It was pretty fun, and I like it much more than the old class.

>>171864416
Whoops, should've kept reading the thread. That was covered already.

So what would be the stat distribution in DDA if I have 4 points left? I was thinking either putting everything to 9 or increasing strength and dexterity to 9, intelligence to 10 and leaving perception to 8.

I was thinking that maybe I could take more bad traits, right now I have addictive personality, lightweight, heavy sleeper, poor hearing, ugly and truth teller, and my good traits are robust genetics, quick, night vision and self-defense classes.

>>171865084
the best*

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>>171864663

If anyone was curious what build/items I had.

I will say, that this is hands down the best artifact weapon I have ever gotten. The arrows were also really quite good.

>>171864663
>>171865451
omedetou

>>171861183
mod it yourself dude ...

Jesus christ angel's offense sucks major balls

Is the new Touhou game a roguelike?

>>171866540
There are lots of touhou games, I think there's a few touhou dungeon crawlers but I wouldn't consider them roguelikes since they most likely don't have the required characteristics.

>>171866667
:^) Like modal gameplay and hunger clock

>>171864663
congrats!

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oh god i have too much con someone please help

>>171866667
The newest one looks like a mystery dungeon style game which have always been quite close to roguelike territory.

>>171866537
maybe you should go back to playing swordmasters and tonberries

and sleeping in beds instead of on boulders

and eating fruit instead of nails

>>171866876
a nice problem to have

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>>171866876
>reforging the best overall fixedart armor available for its level

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>>171867447
im an android and soft leather armor gives fuckall xp
i would drop like 8 levels if I put that shit on

Also I remembered that I had a posture that gives another +5con so here's an even better statline

zelda is my favorite roguelike

Man, all I need is a vampiric slay dragon weapon.
Is that too much to ask

>>171865084
>>171865213
>addictive personality, lightweight
Hope you know what you're doing. Booze is a really good morale booster, and Addictive Personality means that you can't have more than 2 drinks per day without experiencing withdrawal. For that matter, Adderjall becomes very hard to use, since more than ~8 pills over three days is enough to give a character without Addictive Personality some pretty heavy, if short-lived, withdrawal consequences.

Combined with Lightweight, you get addictions really quickly, and their maluses stick around for longer.
>heavy sleeper, poor hearing, ugly and truth teller
Sans Ugly, those are pretty good choices. Trigger-Happy, High Thirst, and Sleepy are also good, if you're looking for some more points.
>night vision
High Perception accomplishes the same thing, but it stacks so your choice. I find this to be a convenience, rather than powerful: if you can see a zombie with your nightvision, it's close enough to track you through scent and sound, so it's not like this allows you to pick fights or avoid them any better.
>self-defense classes
Literally just find a dojo. If you're going to spend points on martial arts, there are better traits for it than that.

As for your stats: Intelligence is important for crafting, which is very powerful, and Strength allows you to do more damage, carry more things, break more stuff, and drag around heavier objects, so they're both very good. Perception allows you to spot traps, be more accurate at a distance and see farther in the dark, all of which are important. Dex raises your accuracy (ranged and melee) by a little, makes crafting go a little faster, and lets you dodge better. I wouldn't dump it, but raising it has fewer benefits than raising other stats.

Not sure how many points multipool gives you because I never use it, but Str=Int>Per>Dex should be fine. Don't go over 14 though, that's just wasteful

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Huh Samurai gets a stance at level 40 that gives the same bonuses as Ultimate Resistance, plus it halves all incoming damage on top of that. And it only costs 2sp per turn.

Would be pretty ridiculous except: it is canceled if you do anything including moving or attacking. you can only mash wait and do damage through retaliation

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Wow, hordes can be pretty brutal. I'd hate to be those dogs right now.

>>171780325
Rollamba

>>171848930
This is what keeps me from enjoying androids long term.

>>171864663
New archer, eh? Perhaps I'll try it as well.

>>171869268
have fun with that shitty game

>>171869336
it really is shit
Gearhead: Arena too

>>171868595
Oh, I forgot that high perception gives you the same effect as night vision, does it start at 10 or does it have to be higher? if it starts at 10 I guess I could just drop night vision. I don't usually use drugs, usually only when I have to do something important like installing a CBM, I also read in the pasta that they don't have a huge effect anyway, but since it's outdated it's probably wrong.

In fact, all the traits I picked are actually from the tl;dr section in the pasta.

I picked self-defense classes because in the pasta and the forums I read that Krav Maga is a really strong style, and as far as I know a dojo isn't guaranteed to have it.

So, for stats, I was thinking, if I removed night vision I could put 10 in per and get both the benefits of night vision(if it starts at 10) and higher per, since you said dex isn't that important I think I'm gonna leave it at 8, I could then make increase strength and intelligence to 10.

>>171869336
i know :/

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See this old man? You can kill him.

>>171780325
gibs me dat

>>171870323
But why would you do that

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>tfw you will never befriend the Thing
At least I will always have my blob-car waifu.

>>171865084
I'm not sure how much stats matter provided you keep them in the normal-ish range. Intelligence is mostly convenience so it doesn't take forever to read books and botch crafts.

>>171868595
>addictive personality
I guess it depends on how you play. I think the only time I've ever had an addiction was keeping my dude up for days reading on caffeine pills.

Just take gourmand if you want to shove everything into your gluttonous maw for huge morale.

The glasses traits are basically free points. I'm not sure I've ever had a pair damaged by a monster hitting me. If that weren't free enough, you can literally remove them late game with a bionic. You can even take both for maximum cheese.

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Because he's there, anon. Because he's there.

>summons unicorn and Talos
>teleports away at the first sign of taking damage
>Has such a high spell rate that hand of doom is bound to stick at least once
>manastorm
>summoning
>summoning
>angels
>hounds
>uniques again
>self-heals in a wall
>ends up summoning the unicorn and Talos 5 times altogether

>I accidentally destruct all his loot to get rid of Talos

What a rascal!

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And this is a thing I've never seen before. Are there fixed-artifacts in Cataclysm?