Network Dueling General /dng/

first for cap did nothing wrong

First for Link mechanic ruining the game.

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First for Duel Links is literally saving the game

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Buy Links! It's healthy for the game. And yes, Synchro and Pendulum are far more broken than Xyz and Link.

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>>171755528

>>171755743
>>171755758
Nothing is wrong with Links.
Everything is wrong with game rules choking the game to sell you Links.

>>171755802
>synchro
>broken

How?

I need a beer, seeing these new Link format rules has made my anger reach it's peak.

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>>171755528
Peel the banana

>>171755528

So is the extra deck getting a limit bump? They have to at this point.

>>171756038
Really? it only has made me more hype. I guess its because i don't spend my money on childrens card games so i don't lose anything

>>171756185
God I hope so.
>>171756195
I guess he refers to the zone stealing rule, which is dumb. I already have my problems with the new rules, but can handle them fine, but this newest rule is just the most what the fuck of them all.

>Special Gofu, Summon Tokens
>Turn a Token into a Link-1 pointing ↘ in EMZ
>Turn Gofu and Token into a Link-2 pointing ↖↗
>Summon Sangan
>Turn it into into a Link-1 pointing ↙ in ur EMZ
>fetch a handtrap with Sangan
>set a billion backrow

Your move /dng/ ;)

>>171756757
I summon Pureness Wizard, meaning you can't activate anything anymore and attack directly with her

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>>171756757
Cry.

>>171756903
Solemn ;)

>>171756949
Is it really that easy? No mutual linking to lock?

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>>171756991
>Trying to negate Pureness Wizard

>>171757056
>Is it really that easy? No mutual linking to lock?
The only thing stopping us is that there's no ↖↗ card yet. Almost all Link cards don't even point up.

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Anticipating the new Links rule and the new ban list I've updated what I want to try for Raidraptor Ultimate Falcon Turbo. Want to get your input on what needs to be fixed, especially extra deck wise.

Main: (40)
Kinka-byo x2
Kuribohrn x3
Rainbow Kuriboh x3
Treeborn Frog x1
Raidraptor - Last Strix x3
Mystic Piper x3
Swift Scarecrow x 3
Battle Fader x3
Effect Veiler x2
One for One x1
Raigeki x1
One Day of Peace x1
Pot of Desires x2
Rank Up Magic Astral Force x3
Dark Hole x2
Rank Up Magic Skip Force x3
Upstart Goblin x1
Twin Twister x2
Skill Drain x 1

Extra: (15)
Number 77: The Seven Sins x2
Number 99: Utopic Dragon x1
Raidraptor - Ultimate Falcon x3
Raidraptor - Satellite Cannon Falcon x2
Number 39: Utopia Roots x1
Slacker Magician x3
Number 54: Lion Heart
Lyrical Luscina - Recite Starling x1
Number F0: Utopic Future x1

Side: (15)
Maxx "C" x1
Lost Wind x3
Dimensional Barrier x3
Mask of Restrict x3
Royal Decree x3
Solemn Strike x2

Input appreciated. Praise Bird Jesus.

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>>171757198
>Praise BirdJesus
There's only one bird God you heretic.

>>171757198
You almost definitely want to put No S0 Utopic Zexal in there (take either an ulti falcon or a spider out for it).

You may also want to consider using Lyrical luscinias and their XYZs as well since they are L1, great at making R1 with sapphire/turqoise and can search themselves/last strix and it would allow you to tech DD crows as it can search any L1 winged beast. It would also allow you to take out pot of memes for allure of darkness and use harpies feather storm which is pretty good monster effect negation.

>>171755737
Cap is perfect. I hope this arc resolves well for him and Zemo

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Eisei Kidou Heiki Hydlander / Hydralander the Orbital Shadowlite Weapon
Level 8 DARK Machine-Type {Special Summon} Effect Monster
ATK 3000
DEF 1500
Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set.
Must be Special Summoned (from your hand) while 5 or more monsters are in your Graveyard and all monsters in your Graveyard have different names, and cannot be Special Summoned by other ways.
(1) Once per turn, during either player’s turn: You can send the top 3 cards of your Deck to the Graveyard; if all monsters in your Graveyard have different names, destroy 1 card on the field.

>>171756949
I was thinking about this before, and crying while doing so. There will be a new type of lockdown decks, just imagine:

>Mutual extra link with only 4 links required
>Ground Collapse
>play Ojama trio
>Imperial Order


The only thing that keeps me alive is knowing that this means that I can probably lock my opponent out of EMZ with Socuteboss.

>>171758432
why THE FUCK is this not a mpb?

>>171758794
Because you touch yourself at night.

>>171757934
Utopic Zexal might be a fun add. Probably would need to cut the Spider and a slacker for it to have two roots available. I might cut Utopic Future as the only way I can summon that right now is both using my extra zone and hoping my opponent has a link zone pointing at me. Til then it's a solid monster I'd hate to cut in light of more grindy matches.

Turquoise looks really good to be able to special it, maybe another lyrical, definitely another level one and then go into a Rank 1 monster of my choice. Sapphire seems conditional to me at best.

What seems best to cut to add three turquoise?

>>171758794
why THE FUCK would it be a mecha phantom beast?

I KNOW, I KNOW I'VE LET YOU DOWN

>>171759554
How do you know?

>>171760000
Well you see, I've been a fool to myself, and thought that I could live for no one else.
Fucking checked

>>171760000
Because he's been a fool to himself.

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>>171759912
Looks like a card that will work well with Superior Polymerization.

>>171760103
>>171760167
Why? Are you retarded?

>>171760261
>Why?
Because I wish that I could turn back time

So with Extra Links being a thing, first turn boards are going to be even more unbreakable, locking potentially locking your opponent out of his extra deck?

Nice going Konami!

What do nips think of the new Links rulings so far?

>>171760871
Remember the three link v.

Reminder for the people unaware, the previously banned cards that were unbanned have erratas that are being released in Duelist Saga, which coincides with the date the banlist goes into effect

https://ygorganization.com/andamerryrescuecatmas/

Rescue Cat can only be used once per turn and negates the effects of the monsters it summons

Future Fusion doesn't send monsters to the grave until your first standby phase after activation, making it removal bait on your opponent's turn

Brionac can only be used once per turn and can only target your opponent's cards

Brain Control can only target monsters that can be normal summoned/set, meaning you can't take control of extra deck monsters or Infernoids that aren't Decatron

Sangan can only be used once per turn, and you can't activate the effects of cards with the same name as the card added to the hand that turn. This includes activating a pendulum monster in the pendulum zone

Goyo Guardian requires an earth tuner because of nip autism

Necrovalley now also prevents cards from moving themselves out of the graveyard, meaning Paleozoics can't special summon themselves and destroyed Madolche monsters don't get shuffled into the deck

Imperial Order now has a mandatory 700 cost during both player's standby phases, you cannot choose to not pay LP and destroy it instead. It is currently unknown how it will work in the TCG if you have exactly 700 LP during the standby phase (in the OCG, you would lose the game because it's still possible to pay a cost even if it causes your LP to become 0)

>>171758432
>different names each
>highlander archetype
Uh ok

Thinking of making a ritual deck for casual play with some friends, one uses monarchs already
Which is better to go with; Nekroz, Gishki or Black Luster Soldier?

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>>171759554
I'VE BEEN A FOOL TO MYSELF

>>171761135
Nekroz

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>>171761135
Black Luster gets the warrior support and has less cards actively banned. I'd definitely test online if you don't have the cards already.

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>>171760871

I was trying ygopro out, but how do I check what my opponent picked for the Dimensional Barrier, it doesn't appear on the log.

>>171761028
I would respect Konami if they could make it work. You can give them pretty strong effects if they required you to highlander to use them. Although, the card they just revealed can effectively be run at 2.

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>>171760871
>blocks your path
hue hue

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>Link monsters
>Extra Monster Zone bullshit in order for you to BUY LINKS
>Mutual Link bullshit in order for you to BUY MORE LINKS and use LINKS ONLY
>Extra Link bullshit in order for you to BUY EVEN MORE LINKS and use LINKS AND LINKS ONLY
>even more archetype-locked bullshit because Konami hates the days of the original DM series when they had little to no control over the players who had all the freedom in the game to build whatever decks they wanted
I cannot believe I wasted over 10 years on this game for it all to go crashing so fucking fast. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Why is brain control getting hyped over here, doesn't the errata make it kinda ass?

>>171760923
>>171760871
I just realized how they are going to keep this from being busted. Every "good" 1 or 3 mark Link will also be an 8 mark Link.

>>171759536
Because it's literally a flying Mecha Squid Beast.

>>171762205
>even more archetype-locked bullshit because Konami hates the days of the original DM series when they had little to no control over the players who had all the freedom in the game to build whatever decks they wanted
They just revealed a Highlander supporting monster.

>>171762215
It does. Mind Control is better and unlimited.

>>171762215
some people still don't know of the erratas

RAIGEKI
DOUBLE DARK HOLE
DOUBLE SLUMBER
TRIPLE OFFERINGS TO THE DOOMED
REMOVE DOUBLE EMZ THE OLD FASHIONED WAY

>>171762465
Hmm, I wonder if I should try to take advantage of the banlist next time. What's still banned but errata'd in JP? Could make a quick buck on ignorant banlist hype.

How is the duel "links" general different from this one?

>>171762623
>yfw Raigeki errata that affects only the Main Monster Zone

>>171762623
>TRIPLE OFFERINGS TO THE DOOMED
That's my peeve and biggest peeve. Malevolent Catastrophe will be back at my deck due to that

>>171762623
sorry friend I have Imperial Order up ;)

>>171762761
K A R M A C U T
R A I G E K I B R E A K
P A L E O Z O I C D I N O M I S C H U S

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>>171762696
Duel Links focuses on the app game. This one focuses on the simulators of the real life trading card game, also discussing about the meta and strategies regarding it with shitposting in the middle and waifu posting as well

Like Ray

>>171761321
i think i'll give it a try, any suggestions for the deck? the only thing i have to go on right now is the AI deck on pro

>>171761028

Hyelander
Hilander
Hielander

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Guys, what is this? Where are its arrows? Why does this link have defense and level?!

>>171763148
looks like a counterfeit m8

>>171763148
Hehehe, you stole my idea

>>171762704
Would throw every card I own in the furnace and never look back.

>>171760907
bump

Any more Duelist Saga leaks?

Konami usually doesn't reprint cards that are currently banned so I'm curious if they are going to reprint Chaos Emperor Dragon or feather duster. Maybe they'll swap them out with other cards?

>>171763631
It looks like it will be composed of Premium Pack 19 cards to fill in the cards they aren't printing from the japanese anniversary packs.

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>check /dng/ before I go to work
>see FF unbanned
>literally scream with excitement
>wonder why noone else is hyped
>realise it's been errata'd

WHAT THE FUCK

WHAT'S THE FUCKING POINT IF IT ISN'T THE SAME CARD

FUCK THIS SHIT

>rule change that makes Extra Monster Zones separate from the overall Monster Zone, meaning cards on the EMZ are unaffected by board-wipe cards like BRD, Dark Hole, Raigeki, etc.
Calling it now.

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>>171763964

>>171763964

>Excited for the cancer that was old FF

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>Still no word of when she's coming

Come the f*** on Konami

>>171763964
Is Declan the evilest Kaiba?

>>171764057
I doubt Konami will be this stupid. I know they've been proving it recently, but removing board wipes would harm the game in a irreparable way.

>>171764101
Go fuck yourself

>>171764287
I'd rather have it banned if it meant keeping the card the same.

>>171764345
Idk. Haven't watched Arc-V since Zarc vs Birdman and Edo?

>>171764542
>>I'd rather have it banned if it meant keeping the card the same.
This is why TCG still lacks the errata for CED, and likely will for quite some time

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>>171764057
I want to say there's no way, I really do

>>171764345
Nah, he is actually quite nice. Just morally ambiguous enough to let a lot of people die to pick the select few survivors to make is jobber squad

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>>171764057
>By the way guys, cards that state "Destroy" and "Field" together only apply to the MMZ, also mutual Linked Links on MMZ are excluded cuz
>stock up on Link's :^)
Hehehahaha

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>Even if your Extra Monster Zone and all of your Main Monster Zones pointed at by Markers are occupied, you can still perform a Link Summon using the monsters in your Extra Monster Zone and your Main Monster Zones pointed at by markers, and Summoning that Link Monster on a Zone occupied by 1 of the Material Monsters, provided that using any of those monsters would not cause you to have no Zones in which you can Special Summon an Extra Deck Monster into
So if I understand this right, Link climbing leaves your EMZ open too, right? But down pointing Links are shit for climbing because of where they'd be placed?

>yfw they limited maxx "c" so you're less likely to use it to draw sphere mode when the link player masturbates into both EMZs

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>>171765518
>Even if your Extra Monster Zone and all of your Main Monster Zones pointed at by Markers are occupied, you can still perform a Link Summon using the monsters in your Extra Monster Zone and your Main Monster Zones pointed at by markers, and Summoning that Link Monster on a Zone occupied by 1 of the Material Monsters, provided that using any of those monsters would not cause you to have no Zones in which you can Special Summon an Extra Deck Monster into, and that the Zone you are attempting to Summon into is legal.
>[Example, if you have “Decode Talker” in your Extra Monster Zone, with “Honeybot” in its Bottom-Left position and 1 monster to the left of “Honyebot”, you may Link Summon using “Honeybot” and that monster, into either of “Decode Talker’s” linked Zones, but not the Zone previously linked by “Honeybot”, because it’s no longer linked.]

I admit to being totally fucking wrong about this. I don't like Link Summoning any more.

>>171765518
So you CAN send your Link Spider and his single vanilla to the grave and slap the Link-2 onto the MMZ vanilla was sitting on?

>>171766164
I fucking told you its really shit. Not in the way of
>pendulum is so OP gays :(
way of shit. But its literally shit made to be abused only. Its only a money mechanic.

Nothing else.

>>171766245
yes (jk no)

>>171766164
Oh never>>171766245mind.

Ra sphere mode main deck now?

My dick will be diamonds when someone shits out a two monster extra deck zone field and gets hit with sphere mode.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52w5uR79HPg

Man, this is nowhere like the Yugioh ahnimes...

Who's ready for an emergency Firewall limit?

They just need to ban Gofu and NEVER Print 79 link that isn't a Link 8

>>171766556
Haha, no. Protags ace ;)

Also I am so awaiting your fucking faces when you realize that Firewall is nothing but a breeze in the storm that is coming.

>>171766669
I'm fully prepared for Firewall to only be a harbinger of things to come.

>>171762205
>bitching this much about Archetypes

Boy, I sure do love playing against the same CCCC beatdown deck over and over again!

>>171766245
I'm not sure, but that Dickode Honeybot example leads me to think no
In which case Link spam became less workable (maybe), but Links also became pretty shitty

>>171766750
Take a gander at what exists currently, Link a fy it, and apply all the new coming game rules to the plays.
Shudder in terror.

>>171762205
>Bitching about Archtypes.
Nigger you what.
Archtypes are fine since it lets them print strong cards that only work in certain decks. Imagine something like Return of the Dragonlords working on any level 7 or 8 card or shit like Scout letting you search any Pendulum. Fuck off.

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>>171764328
She's going to be here Neveruary 32nd

It's a little scary that you're already going to be able to make huge boards so early in the link era.

I wasn't expecting to see a lot of the stuff we are right now until year 2 or 3.

>>171766657
We will probably eventually reach the link that goes beyond the pinnacle: a link 13 monster caddo!

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>>171763964
>there are retards that are going to spout this over and over again because they never bother to read the Org for news

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Basically, due to Trickstars, fairies are meta again?

>>171766850
Instead you play against the same archetype decks over and over again.

Synchros and Pendulums were mistakes...just nothing but trash. Ritual and Fusion were built wrong as a joke and Xyz is only somewhat good. Buy Links

>>171767181
Stop posting her
She's the worst YGO girl

>>171767358
That's Aki, anon

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>>171767181
>TrickStars
My nigger, I hate name changes but I hope this comes true. It fits their idol theme.
It depends on if we get special summon support in forms of monsters and spells. I hope they don't give us another melodious and fuck the archetype.

>>171766947
We've surpassed simple Summoning Spam Jobs. We're entering the realm of Summoning Spam Blue and will ascend further once Red colors are applied.

>>171767479
The name change really fits IMO.
I actually prefer it to the original.

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>>171767358
>implying
Nah, you're right. She was so fucking useless, even by YGO standards.

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Don't forget /dng/ BUY LINKS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD_dMvnbDR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD_dMvnbDR8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MD_dMvnbDR8

>>171767635
Yuzu says hi with the ruris

Where are the "j-j-j-just adapt :(" cucks now?

>>171767358
she have better doujins than all others big breasted sluts

>>171767739
Those poor voice actors and animators. the writing staff and duel writer and Ono just completely stopped giving a fuck to the point the animators didn't know what to draw and it showed with Zarc's horrible design.

>>171767898
Grow a pair, fag

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>>171767898
Nowhere to be found. I for one can't wait to play Waifus and Dragons.

>>171767914
Bet you can't prove it

>>171767879
Yuzu is best Ruri. Ruri is worst Ruri. But the Ruris are still better than Kotori and Cathy.

why don't links have levels again

>>171767898
I'm right here. Man up and play or just quit already. Links will only become more relevant as time goes on. I'm loving this shit so far. It's what I've been waiting for.

>>171768173
Because something had to be removed to make place for their Link numbers.

>>171768146
Did the Ruris get to cheer up the protagonist when he needed and stayed by the side of their yuus for moral support? No.

>>171768196
Have you missed the update where you can take both EMZs?

>>171768196
Stop. You give a bad name for those that believe in adapting

>>171768173
Levels would be wholly irrelevant on them. Every monster that has a level has a reason to have it. Effect/normal monsters have them to show whether or not they need a tribute, rituals have them to show what the levels of their materials need to add up to, synchros for the same reason as rituals, Xyz have ranks to show what level of monster they need as materials. Links don't need anything as specific as levels.

>>171768258
That's the /def. They likely removed levels and ranks so you couldn't use them with the rest of your ED colors.

BUY LINKS!!

>>171768410
Why do Fusions have levels?

Adding Levels to Links would have made them victim to cards that affect monsters with levels. Instead they made Links into Xyz on steroids.

>>171768196

The problem is the rule changes that come along with them. You are no longer allowed to use your extra deck unless you have a link on the field, which even then only gives you limited access. This isn't just "play around this new mechanic", this is "your deck is completely unusable unless you use these cards".

>>171768336
And I doesn't bother me at all. It requires you to be able to spam out several Links in a single turn or your opponent will have a chance to take their own. It also encourages you to play more varied removal in the maindeck again. People won't be relying on the same spells and traps anymore if they want to risk getting locked.

>>171768405
Why? People complaining about it are as bad as nostalgiafags who want the days of Goat Control and generic beater decks back. This game needed a shakeup and it's what we got.

>>171768662

t. konami employee

>>171768629
You still can if don't have a Link. Just one at a time. I think that's fine. The game has become too focused on the extra deck and people have been neglecting main deck strength for too long. People will need to form new strategies and balance their decks differently.

>>171768767
This game has been too stagnant. It needed a change.

>>171768839

>.Just one at a time

so basically completely worthless

>People will need to form new strategies and balance their decks differently.

no, people will need to buy links so they can actually play.

>>171768960
>>171768662
I didn't think it was possible to find a bigger scrub than the crybabies that are quitting due to link. You are a living proof I was wrong

I'M GOING TO BUY DRAGONS AND THERES NOTHING /DNG/ OR KONAMI CAN DO ABOUT THAT

>>171768839
OR they'll just spam Links, you retard.

>>171768662
Literally everything that's not Links has been reduced to pre-Shaddol Fusion levels of unusableness.

Do you really see nothing wrong with this?

>>171768960
>It needed a change
But not a complete overhaul.

This shit is no longer Dueling Monsters, it's fucking Dungeon Dice Monsters.

>>171769028
No, it means you need to put more thought into how your play and what you use. Cards like Mind Control will be useful for ripping away whatever they put in the EMZ so that you can take back your zone and continue to use your own strategy, Links or no. Monster removal will also be more important going forward. You've been taking your extra deck too lightly for too long. It's an EXTRA deck. A perk. Extra deck spam has always been annoying.

>>171769182
>pre-Shaddol Fusion levels of unusableness.
God I miss pre-DUEA YGO.
game was never the same after Shitdolls.

>>171769045
This game has gotten too samey and I'm glad to see the change. You can say what your want about me, but it's still coming either way.

>>171769293
Remember when Noble Knights were good? Fun times.

>>171768281
>Yuzu always cheered up Yuya or calmed him down when she wasn't being kidnapped
>Ruri would always put a smile on Yuto and her onii-chan
>also took a dive for Sayaka even though she's the true worst girl
>Rin was totally not banana's gf that didn't bring smiles by helping him make a D-Wheel

You got me on Selena though. She was a kind of a bitch.

>>171769293
Pre-DUEA was the best this game has ever been. There was all kinds of variety once Drulers took the fall and got balanced out some.

I enjoy Shaddolls, but DUEA was the set that began the rapid acceleration of powercreep we still have today.

>>171769543
Nothing sparks a frantic anger like Shaddolls for me.
Not only are they the reason the game turbo'd out with super powerful anti-meta decks that are actually meta, but they felt like pure ass to play against.

>>171769392
And you are still a scrub either way

When will ygopro add Links?

>>171769687
I don't think you know what that word means.

>>171769691
Either this weekend or July.

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I think these are pretty much the perfect ratios now. Though TCG being retarded has given me a spot for upstart hoban.

>>171769645
My reason for liking them was because I was fed up with extra deck spam, so I used Winda as a way to slow things down at first. The deck evolved as things went on though.

>>171769850
Thank you.

>>171769893
Maxx C is limited now.

>>171769919
Yeah I can see that, They where the start of Anti-meta decks with strong hate cards that actually had alot of power to them without focusing on the lock-down.
But the sheer amount of floating and +1's the deck gets for it's basic plays pisses me off.
Manage to kill their Winda, oh sorry they just recycle fusion and get one out again next turn for 0 cost because lmao fuse from the deck.
Compulse was at 1 at that stage too IIRC so there where no real good ways to stop the thing from floating. Playing against Shaddolls pissed me off so much since playing against them felt like the ultimate up-hill grind.

>>171769893
>Goyo Guardian
But what about LINKs?

>>171770053
That's why he said he'd have a spot for Upstart

>Completely cripple all previous extra deck mechanics
>Make masturbation solitaire decks even stronger
>Buffs going first

Bravo Konami.

>>171770238
>fire Kojima
>cancel Silent Hills
>create Links
What is their endgame?

>>171770360
To quietly fade into Pachinko.

>>171770481
Can we have more Duel Terminal instead?

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>>171770360
Crashing this company... with no survivors!

>>171770141
My beef was with Burning Abyss more than anything. They floated on literally everything and could run the stupidest cards that no other deck dared to and even BENEFITED from it. Kill Dante? He's coming back next turn or maybe even the same turn. Even with only a small handful of main deck cards, they were still hell to deal with because they got their best stuff in DUEA. No matter what you did, they were coming back at you every turn. It was even worse than Dolls because at least their maindeck only floated if they were sent by effect, so they couldn't use things like Wing Wind Blast.

Dolls only got that fusion from the deck if they were playing against a deck that left extra deck monsters out that couldn't kill Winda. She was still annoying on her own, but not impossible to deal with. I miss Construct though. She was the more fun fusion.

>tfw can't find space to add in Strikes or Barriers in my deck.
Feelsbadman.

>>171770629
Take a cue from the OCG overlords and run more than 40 cards if you want them that badly.

>>171770481
They can't even do that. Japan has recently been more lax on gambling laws, fucking over the Pachinko industry hard.

>>171770196
Realized it right after I made my post.

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>>171755758
So I guess "Mechaknights" and "Mekatrosity Insects" they've been describing aren't going to be in here. Next set I guess.
They sound cool just from name alone.

>>171770621
>I miss Construct
I don't, the only good thing she's ever given me was some fond memories of some retard trying to run into Black Skull Dragon Archfiend and then rage quitting since they didn't get their float.
But yeah, as someone who really liked Synchro toolbox back then I'm STILL mad about Shaddolls. I will say BA is worse in alot of ways since they're a special kind of cancer with their triple dante set 3 bullshit.

>>171770360
Erotic Violence

I'm still gonna b-ball on links.

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>>171769028
>no, people will need to buy links so they can actually play
You sure about that? I like how people magically forgot that there are many decks that don't need extra deck monsters to win.

>>171770719
My deck is already reasonbly inconsistent with it's basic combo's and it doesn't Synergise with Lawnmowing enough to warren running it for the 60 card meme deck.
Then again I'm the kind of person who will open 4 Level 8's turn 1 and not see a single Trade-in for the whole game.
I'd post my decklist but It's really shitty and I don't want to give anyone eye-cancer.

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Is box of FRIENDS.dek still good these days? I mean before they gutted zoos you could have blown box of friends up and get an additional rank4

>>171771071

>he thinks monarchs will somehow magically become relevant again

>>171770997
I liked Synchro toolbox as well, but it quickly died once Xyz took over and synchro spam took synchro toolbox's place. I hated synchro spam and it was my main reason for picking up Dolls. Synchro spam was a bastardization of the synchro decks I once loved. I still have fond memories of using Junk Warrior, Junk Destroyer, and my other boys.

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>>171771195
Not just monarchs but all decks that have main deck bosses like Blue-Eyes, Master Peace, and Dinos.

>>171766947
Then you're literally fucking retarded. Not just me, but a lot of people here have been calling it just by looking at the cards they have been releasing since the very beginning (example: Link Spider).

>>171771216
>We can't bust out or 4 mat Junk Destroyer for huge Value and loop resources with Drill Warrior.
It's a little sad how the only way heavy synchro decks can work is by turbo'ing out Quasar/Blazar and hoping that's enough to survive.
Really wish Konami would make another Synchro toolbox deck instead of leaving toolboxing a XYZ thing.

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>>171771195
>tfw won local tournament with monarchs and 1st price was a switch

Literally just dusted off my old deck and switched some stuff, nobody was siding Mask of restrict or fog king

>>171771125
Box of Friends will be unironically good in Stargrails, since the Main Deck monsters are Normal and all have 0 ATK or DEF.

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Post your main deck.

>>171771423
I feel like Crystrons could've been that, but they're going under-supported and over-restricted. They had some nifty stuff like the battle position switching, HFD, and whatnot. The machine synchros are either too weak to use or aren't generic enough for them to run.

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>>171771560
I'll be fine post-links since I rarely go into the Extra, but when I do it'ls just a single card an anyways.

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>>171771560

>>171771559
I hope the Starelics or whatever they're called are useful enough to support the deck.

>>171771560
Thanks for cucking my fun, Konami.

>>171771661
Yeah, Crystrons is really good example of Konami putting retarded restrictions on a deck when it would've been perfectly balanced without it.
I don't want to sound like one of those whiny Synchrofags who have that victim complex, but it does almost seem like Konami is being overly careful with Synchro based decks for some reason.

>>171768662
>bad as nodtalgiafags
dont put us in the same level of those autistic animefags or those duel links shitters

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>>171771796
Forgot image. God damn it.

>>171771560
>No alt Art.
It's a shame that Red-eyes best art is still that Anniversary pack from forever ago.

>>171771818
I can see why they do it, but it's unnecessary at this point. They want to avoid things that can be abused because synchros have few restrictions to summon and can be spammed pretty easily, hence why synchro spam/Quasar/Blazar decks took root. The problem is that they limit things too much and can't strike a good balance between effective and safe.

>>171771947
Are the Dimesion Dragon Magicians really worth running?
Also
>Tfw Crystal wing is the only D. Drag that isn't Dark.

>>171772273
Clear wing is not Dark either. All dragons break the pattern in some way.
And with Links, no they're not.

>>171772252
Yeah, I can get being careful since Synchro's being able to climb and go into one another is somewhat risky to balance with since getting shit like triple Quasar turn 1 is cancer, but at the same time I feel that removing certain restrictions like letting Crystrons sync into anything instead of only machine-type cards wouldn't break the game.

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Someone explain the new rule to me because I don't understand it at all.

>>171771921
I've seen people crying about Links just as much as nostalgiafags cry about the game being too fast and different lately. So far, Links aren't too bad. There's a lot of room to fuck up, yeah, but it's not too bad yet. I agree that the ability to steal the other EMZ is stupid, but we'll see where it goes. The biggest problem so far is that combo that Jeff Jones has shown. Hopefully Konami does something about it on the next list (kek). I can imagine Ferret getting limited, BriFu taking a hit, or that PredaPlant taking a hit.

>>171771818
Sort of similar to how Geargia Augar has a bunch of heavily restrictive effects placed on it when shit like Zoodiac exists.

>>171772506
You don't need to understand it; just buy LINKS.

>>171772506
if you build a link bridge to the second EMZ then you can steal it from your opponent

>>171772423
That would've been completely fine because Crystrons are less spam and more toolbox oriented. They usually only synch once or twice a turn. Quasar isn't something they typically run because it doesn't fit the deck.

>>171772358
I know Starve and Greedy venom have more attack and defense than the others, and it's upgrade are 2 levels higher instead of 1 level/rank higher.
Dark Rebellion doesn't have a Level.
Odd-eyes only has 1 word before it's summon method dragon and can be summoned without any materials/tributes.
Clear/Crystal wing are Wind and you can use more than 2 materials to summon one.
Yeah, I guess all of them break out of the "conventions" the others have.

>>171772510
>adapt to the revamp or be labeled a nostalgiafag
nice1

There's gonna be a spell that turns a MMZ into a Linked Zone but any monster summoned from the ED into that Linked Zone is banished during the End Phase.

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>>171772643
Oh.

JESUS FUCKING CHRIST KONAMI

>>171772670
Yeah, Crystrons straight up don't have anything in-archtype that lets them do crazy Quasar plays.
Wish YZ was a little cheaper to build since it's the only fun and viable Synchro deck left.

>>171772775
That's pretty much what it is. You either adapt or you're a nostalgiafag of a different kind. They still cry just as much before anything has even happened.

>>171772506
>>171772643
And the bridge have to have markers pointing towards eacheother, no one-way shit.

>>171772972
I have most of the core for YZ minus Jiaotu, but I never got around to finishing it. It's not really worth it with Links coming. I have a hard time settling on a single deck anyway. I'm used to making a lot of decks or constantly tweaking the ones I have. It's hell to play in paper for me, so I usually don't.

>>171773261
Yeah, I'll miss the double Baxia T1 plays with Metalfoes YZ. Guess it's back to going super stun and making towers-esque monsters.

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>If a monster in the Extra Monster Zone is temporarily banished and returns, it returns to the Main Monster Zone of the last player who controlled it, in the same battle position. During this time, if the Main Monster Zone is filled, the monster is sent to the Graveyard instead.

Holy shit, this will be meta.

will the new structure decks for tcg be the same as the ocg versions?

>>171773419
Are you retarded?

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>>171773419
;))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

>>171772510
a difference of nostalgiafags the people complaining about the new rules aren't just casual players

>>171760907
>What do nips think of the new Links rulings so far?
I'm also interested in the answer to this.

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Question for any number hunters who may still be alive. Now that Links exist and completely wreck Don Thousand's Numbers 1-4, would anyone mind if Konami prints them as one card, Number 1000: Gate of Numeron, and printed the Numbers 1-4 used by Mr. Heartland and his associates?

>>171762462
>mind control unlimited

>>171760907
Stop samefagging faggot.

The short of it is that the japs hate the Link mechanic as much as we do because it killed off countless petdecks. Numerous players were fed up with Konami's BS and just outright quit, petitioned, or just constantly downvote any vids that feature the Link mechanic. It doesn't help that KoJ is also enforcing some bs involving the use of official mats and sleeves on storeowners and official tournaments.

>>171774154
>Stop samefagging faggo
But I'm not you jealous retard.

>>171774208
Then shut up nigger. The question was answered regardless.

>>171766947
t. Megacapitalg

>>171774154
The thing over their data collecting, what were the details? Something about online code cards inserted into packs to fuck with scaling stores and collecting your info.

>>171773557
>turn 1 cockblocker
This will either be banned or outright errata'd.

>>171774352
That's another separate issue actually. Can't really say I've heard anything of that outside of this thread, but I know that what I've mentioned earlier was mentioned before by numerous channels, and even the Org IIRC. Though I can't fully confirm if it's true or not. Albeit knowing Konami, it's likely to happen.

>>171774361
>cockblocker
What?

>>171774779
EMZs are shared between players as long as the other one is not occupied by a monster, correct?

Then SSing a Link to an EMZ, banishing it, then SSing a different Link to the other EMZ leaves your opponent unable to summon on their turn since the other EMZ cannot be used until your banished Link is returned to the field.

>>171775229
I thought once you got one, you use that one for the rest of the game?

>>171755758
Someone please tell me. How much space does installing this goddamn mobile game take? I'm only at "181 / 270" and I have deleted as many non-Google apps as I can without rooting this 3-year-old LG Tribute.

>>171767898
The Extra Link mechanic sounds cancerous. But aside from that I am pretty excited for Links.

>>171775229
Monster Card Zone is always treated as Main Monster Zone now, it can't prevent you from using the EMZ.

>>171775354
I don't know, I looked-up the ruling on the wiki.

>While both Extra Monster Zones are unoccupied, neither is treated as being part of the field of any player. When a player Special Summons a monster to an Extra Monster Zone, that zone is then treated as part of their field while it is occupied, while the other zone is automatically treated as part of their opponent's field. A player can only occupy 1 Extra Monster Zone at a time.

>>171773759
> 沸々と怒りが湧いて来てる訳だけど、リンク召喚は「ほ〜ん、場のモンスターを消費して出せて、矢印の方向にいるモンスターにのみ効果を及ぼす永続魔法みたいなモンスター群か」で終わってたら面白そう!その手があったか!で終わったのに、なんで毎回KONAMIは蛇足システムを付けるんだ
there is not much, i only found this and others ask on twiter

>>171775508
Well dicks.

>>171775593
>thinking anyone here speaks nip

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>>171757198
Ok updated the deck

Cut:
Treeborn Frog x1
Pot of Desires x2
Number 77: The Seven Sins x1
Slacker Magician x1

Added:
Lyrical Luscinia - Turquoise Warbler x3
Lyrical Luscinia - Recite Starling x1
Number S0: Hope Zexal x1

Cut the frog and the pots to get a level one that can special summon on a dime for more rank 1 plays if last strix's combo isn't available. Slacker had more than enough copies so I made one of them a Recite Starling for options in case the first one gets lost. One of the Number 77 turns into a Hope Zexal so I have more options. The problem now is that only one roots means I get Dragon or Hope but not both.

Thoughts?

>>171775683
google TRANSLATE IT WEEB!
as i did it

>>171769394
Noble Knights were never good.

>>171775683
>>171775593
>It is a translation that the boiling and anger are coming up, but the link summon is "Wow, you can consume the monsters in the battlefield, can you put out monsters in the field, monsters like a permanent magic that only affect monsters in the direction of the arrow?" When you have finished interesting! though ended up in one! there was the hand, why ever time KONAMI I'm put a superfluous system

>>171776036
Why would you not just post the loose English translation then?

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>>171776036
>Konami gets a snake system everytime
>why the hand was there!
Alas, I truly see.

So the new meta will be masturbating into occupying both EM zones so your opponent scoops it up?

>>171776635
They can't lock you out of your EMZ if you don't use it

>>171776635
It would/will be if we got/get better top arrows.

>>171776635
Well. My ritual deck dont give a fuck

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Gotta love it how Konami is just ignoring all the negative feedback so far.

>>171776852
They always do.

>>171776852
Idiotu's will buy itto. Hear notto their pleas.

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>>171771560
>letting your opponent have fun

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>>171776852
I'm pretty fucking sure they don't come here to read comments.

>>171776185
i dont really trust in google translate,l and i dont wanna cause misunderstandings

>>171776739
Because they're too busy bricking to care about anything else?

>>171776635
the new meta is not a archetype is a summoning mechanic itself

>>171776852
Its only negative from a player perspective.
Its brilliant from a money making perspective.

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>>171777018
>big eye but no dracossack

>>171776978
shit those ghost reapers should be ghost ashes

>>171776739
Because you have to scoop anyways because your hand is literally shit?

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How are traptrix dueling wise?

>>171777392
>not Links
They're shit.

>>171777392
They have an xyz that gives any deck capable of r4nk a first turn board

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>>171777239
I dunno man I just collect the art not make it.

>>171777205
Please, anon. Soon, Link masturbation archetypes will emerge, and then they'll reign supreme for a while.

>>171777962
>ContactCrossAcceLinking archetypes
Stage-VI- cancer imminent.

>>171777962
>Link PePe

>>171778404
Odd-Eyes Link Dragon and Link Magicians when?

>>171778490
Why not go full hog and ask for Link D/D/D while you're at it?

>>171776158
>Consume the monster in the battlefield
I guess he is talking about the monster zone.

>>171778490
Pendulumgraph that gives magicians in pend zones a link marker pointing up when?

>>171778490
More like PerfomaLinks, complete with nonstop Link summoning and cycyling till you fill both default EDZ's and a supporting board of 2 card Quick-F destruction, Omni negate, and Shock Link.

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>>171778585
D/D/D Superdoom King Bluish Armageddon when?

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So a thought occurs to me, if you use scapegoat on your opponent's main phase couldn't you then use those four tokens to summon a Firewall Dragon?

>>171779152
Your opponent will have stolen your EMZ before you manage to do that.

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"From the peaceful depths of time, release your light throughout this world and be revived! Synchro Summon! Level 10! Super Magical Swordsman of Nirvana! Nirvana High Paladin!"

>>171778490
If they give links to each old character archetype and possibly all archetypes before this mess was introduced, the shitstorm would subside a little

>>171779234
Only if they build that bridge first.
Whodda thunk Kaiju's and the ball turn out to be our saviors all along.

>>171779014
Not before Links, so why even care?

>>171779379
Some archetypes are still missing that 15 card number, would help win the buyers over a little to see them stuff Links in there.

>>171778490
So something like a Sharp Tail Link Dragon?

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>>171779565
Bluish implied a Link counterpart to D/D/D Doom King Armageddon since he already has a Fusion/Synchro/Xyz counterpart.

On a side note the Pendulum effect to Xyz Armageddon allows him to summon D/D/D Xyz's regardless of Links use since they are direct Special Summons instead of proper Xyz summons. Fucking useless since they're going to be without Xyz material, but here's hoping the Fusion and Synchro ones also maintain this effect for their own types.

>>171780004
>>On a side note the Pendulum effect to Xyz Armageddon allows him to summon D/D/D Xyz's regardless of Links use since they are direct Special Summons instead of proper Xyz summons.
That's not how it works you little shit

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>Konami gave an entire new mechanic an inherintly way to stop the opponent to reach the extra deck

>>171780004
>On a side note the Pendulum effect to Xyz Armageddon allows him to summon D/D/D Xyz's regardless of Links use since they are direct Special Summons instead of proper Xyz summons
That's not how it works. Anything that is summoned from the extra deck has to go the EMZ

>>171780126
>>171780160
Welp, I stand corrected. Jesus christ FUCK links

Bring back Dragon Rulers

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>>171780372
Bring Back Stratos.

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>when locking your opponent out of level 5+ monsters isn't enough
>when locking your opponent out of the extra deck as a pendulum summon effect isn't enough
>double EMZ lockouts

any idea why my pre-preparation of rites doesnt work in my BLS deck on ygopro?
is it because the ritual cards say this card can be used to summon any 'black luster soldier' ritual monster rather than specifically stating BLS? im confused

>>171781427
Precisely. It needs to say a specific ritual monster.

>>171781427
Pre-Prep requires a specific Monster in the Ritual Card, you can't use cards that are generic.

>>171781530
Does it work on Machine Angel Ritual?

>>171781427
It's very Konami to hand out pre-prep and then begin printing ritual cards it can't target. Or in >>171781204's case a field spell.

Is there a hack for ygopro to see all your opponent cards? in hand, set and in extra deck?

>>171781759
No.

>>171781514
>>171781530
>>171781772

thanks bros, im new to the game and im starting to see why people hate Konami already, this isnt the first awkward ruling to stand in my way

>>171781858
Fuck off normies.

>>171781854
Motherfuckers

>>171782102
>BLSFAG
>CAN'T READ
>POSIBLY HAS NO IDEA ABOUT HOW TO USE HIS COPYPASTED DECK
>CAN'T INTO BASIC RULINGS
POST YOUR 60CARDS.dek

>>171781858
It's not awkward, you just need to learn to read. You could use Preparation of Rites, or Advanced Ritual Art (and stick 1 or 2 Normal Monsters in your deck that meet the Level requirements of your Rituals).

>>171781843
No, why would you want that?

>>171782243
I just said I used Cyber Angels.

>>171782709
LMAO what a faggot

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>Darkness Approaches now says “Change that monster to face-down Defense Position”, finally ending the age-old hilarity of face-down Attack Position.

Damn. Why did Konami have to fuck that up?

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>>171782243
Not me but here's a 50 card hot garbage BLS deck

>ever playing more than 40 cards

>>171783005
Link's can't even be flipped down by any means so it's not over that.
Guess they got tired of repeated FAQ's about it?

>>171783156
>Ever playing brick soldiers

None of Yugi's new cards are good and that includes the 3 xyz ones, They're all better off under Yuma's Gagaga deck

>>171783156
It's like you want to lose to Grass.

>>171783006
Where's the zood's and loli's anon??

Best pack for new player? Ultimate Rising? Or buy them all? I have 1340 gems, never bought a pack yet

>>171783434
Take it to the duel links thread.

>>171783434
>Best pack for new player?
An empty one.

Leave. There is no hope here.

>>171783649
But this is YuGiOh General
>>>/out/

>>171783334
With what extra deck space, friend?

>>171783740
>I'm superior because I play a illegal simulator.
Enjoy jail you piracy lord.

I just came back from work. What the hell happened?

>>171783939
It's not illegal though. And it's modern Yugioh. People playing Duel Links are stuck in the past.

>>171784002
You can link chain from your EMZ to steal the other EMZ too, after that it all came:
T U M B L I N G D O W N

>>171783742
It's the Dueling Network General

>>171784002
Someone got lost in the catalog,
it's comedy hour.

>>171783742
No, this is Dueling Network General. We cover modern Yugioh and nothing else. Duel Links has its own general. Go there.

>>171784141
What the fuck? Why is Konami going full retard?

>>171784253
BUY LINKS!!

>>171783178
It sucks that they're getting rid of a unique effect for no reason. They might as well retcon Ancient Lamp to only redirect attacks to the player's other monsters instead of the opponent's while they're at it.

>>171784253
They haven't cared about the game since DUEA. Everything they do is to squeeze money out of you.

Banlist in YGOPRO, when?

>>171784141
But didn't they say you can only use your own EMZ at the start??

>>171784421
>Everything they do is to squeeze money out of you.
Yeah they're going full retard because they're pissing too many people off.

>>171784510
Yes, until you do this >>171756949 and take both.

>>171784429
When you code it and submit a pull request

Before you guys go off too bad on Duel Links posters you should know one of you assholes is sending them here.
>>171783324

>>171784429
It's not a problem for me since I don't use Maxx C and Vanity

If you can steal your opponents EMZ, can you steal your opponents MMZ?

Say Decode Talker is in the EMZ, can you Xyz Summon in the zone on top of Decode?

>>171784584
And people will still buy it because there are retards who choose to eat up whatever helps them win regardless of price.

Look how many people bought full price Nekroz.

>>171784913
They haven't stated that in the master rules, so no. Your opponent gets to summon in that slot.

>>171784143
>It's the Dueling Network General
Actually it's the Network Dueling General.

>>171784913
No, no taking MMZ's. But capture the flagioh may be the next step in this """""trading card""""" game.

>>171784421
>They haven't cared about the game since DUEA
Come on anon, they haven't cared since the Synchro era ended. Just look at the March 2012 list.

>>171785142
I can already see some creative fun games

>the only way to win in this game is to control ALL of the monster zones, including your opponent, by using link monsters to steal their zones, there are no Life Points in this game.

>you can lock out your opponent from the extra deck turn 1
Give me some good decks that don't use the Extra Deck pls.

>>171784253
It isn't even a viable strategy as of right now. I'll wait until it actually becomes one before panicing.

Just in the very first set, we received a card that allows us to move Link monsters (Castle Link). Who knows how many other Link related S/Ts they'll create in the future.

>>171784913
No, it's still considered his zone. Your first EDZ is permanent, but the 2nd isn't.

>>171785246
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=3866
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=3876
https://yugiohblog.konami.com/articles/?p=3879
Reminder.