/fog/ - Fallout General

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Piper.

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>>171738308
...doesn't have shit on me

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butch is best

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>>171737861
>no California & Nevada DLC

>>171738936
>Nevada

*Arizona

>>171738936
>be a Courier
>one of the lucky few who by proxy of profession, won't be attacked by Legionaries off-the-bat
>don't get to travel inwards to Legion lands and visit a town or two

it still makes me sad over half a decade later

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>>171737861
Could someone make the suits they are wearing it's much better than the suit that you see at the start of the game.

Those gas masks are better looking aswell.

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>>171738308
>>171738565
Miria is best.

>>171739769
Why is the babys eyes rolled up like it's having a fit?

>>171739627
>Welcome to cut content the game.

>>171739889
Fallout: Cut Content 2

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>>171739769
those pistols look better than the 10mm we have in game, but I prefer the sleek sci-fi Institute NBC suits we already see

I wish [pic] had featured in the series for real, though

>>171739957
I think the pistol is based on a Glock. (Concept)

>>171740074
Doesn't look like a Glock at all, with the visible hammer.

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New Vegas is the best 3D Fallout.

Fight me, faggots. 4 is shit.

>>171740130
it has the body of a glock but also a hammer

>>171740151
I don't want to fight you, though; it's a boring overplayed argument that comes down to nothing more than personal taste

that and you're right

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I kind of wish Nick's companion quest was about choosing whether kellogg takes control of his body or not.

kellogg was a hella compelling character and so is nick. making that choice would be rough as hell.

>>171740420
>kellogg
Are we talking bout a chicken? I feel like it's ceral related.

>>171740420
>Kellogg
Who the fuck names their BBEG after a cereal brand?

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>>171740513

Is it normal that the big warehouse doors won't snap on warehouse walls with a spot for them or is it somehow one of my mods fucking up?

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>>171740151
What about Brotherhood of Steel?

>>171740707
Might be a mod, might be poor floor planning. Is everything else snapped together right?

>>171738936
>have world map
>make 1/3 of it inaccessible

how did obsidian get away with it?

>>171740903
Actually it worked now. I'm not sure what happened. I had tried all the doors one by one and nothing'd work, I quit workshop mode and came back a bit later and it worked right away.

>>171740921
because that 1/3 was filled with ten out of ten content, but yh, it's a crying shame

>>171741470
2/3*, even

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>>171734734
>BOS Field Scribe Armor. I was thinking that if that shit is possible maybe I can make mesh edits that don't clip with the armors if you're wearing them. It'd be hella cool because it means all the different armors would have their own look depending on the outfit.

There's probably an NPC variant and SS variant then. You'll have to use the CK to see how they made it work for only the SS, an make it use the NPC model. Then in OS, possibly sculpt down whatever areas clip with the Pip-boy. Or download that Pip-pad mod.

How do I use cages well? I put some in a settlement but everytime I come, there's npcs and monsters outside their cages.

Are the Reavers still a thing in modern FO? You know, the raider version of BOS minus all the nice power armors.

Nothing you can do about it. It's an engine bug related to NPCs spawning on roofs and in walls. The cages are supposed to remain shut, and the catch inside, as long as they are powered. The engine sometimes has other ideas about NPC positions and power distribution, though

>>171740539

Based Todd Howard motherfucker that's who.

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>>171742479

All of the cages you can make a pretty worthless, desu. With two exceptions.

Gunner cages. Seriously. Gunner cages are basically farmable gunners, you'll get tons of armor, weapons, ammo, some food items, and if you use manufacturing extended, lots of human meat and bone, which can be refined into fertilizer and oil. Oh, not to mention the experience.

The only other time a cage might be neat is if you're collecting certain animals. My deathclaw ranch, if invaded, would utterly devastate anything that came.

>>171742634
Now with (You) >>171742479

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>>171739889
>>171739917

Youtube Poop: Bethesda's Unreasonable demands.

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>>171742634

That's odd, I've never had that happen before.

I've seen some running around outside the cages, but I think its only because cages attract enemies of that type. My deathclaw cages would attract hostile deathclaws, and I know they werent caged ones because the "Make not wanna kill and eat you" device didn't work on them.

>>171742708
>>171742634
So no way not to have NPCs spawning all over your settlement with the cages?

>>171743092
I made the mistake of putting my generators and pacifying device out in the open once.

>gunners invade
>my yao gauis are pushing their shit in
>missile hits generator
>All my yao guais start mauling my settlers

>>171743092
>>171743206
It might be an attack or something else, if it's a lot of NPCs. The bug I mean just leads to NPCs standing next to their cages once in a while.

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>>171743206

I bet its the enemies cages attract anon. Are they hostile?

Filled cages WILL attract their allies and cause more raids. If you fill enough deathclaw cages and keep them trapped, you'll get attacked by five or six fucking deathclaws.

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I think my game fucking broke.

>>171743295
If it's attacks, they happen everytime I fast travel there. Might be it makes other mobs of the same type come as Buff said. I hadn't built a pacifier though.

>>171743380

Yeah you must have some caught NPCs if it happens every time.

Let those poor guys out!

>>171743380
>Might be it makes other mobs of the same type come...

They very much do that. Even says so in the description. The more cages, the more likely you are to get attacked.

It's an interesting way to farm legendaries: Have tons of Gunner or raider cages and resources, but no defense. This almost guarantees you an attack every time you travel to the settlement.

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>>171742708
No gorilla cages!?

do I have to be with the follower to keep their perk?

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Next Fallout game should be in NYC and it should be just one giant glowing sea with you and your comrade cosplaying space marines and killing filth in irradiated hell.

>>171744004
No.

>>171743665
>No gorilla cages!?
I fucking hate this, why? add them into the game without making them mutated like all the other animals and feral?

>>171744078
New york city is controlled by the enclave, they controlled all the vaults and had a defense system that protected the city from the war.

>>171744247
They are synths.

>>171744247
I thought that New York City was bombed beyond Oblivion and it's just one giant crater now? It would make sense though for Goverment to protect one of the most important cities, when House had technology to protect Vegas, why Enclave couldn't protect NYC.

>>171744390
They invested in retrofitting the statue of liberty into a variant of the liberty prime model.

>>171743665
>>171744247

There are gorilla cages. Bethesda, for whatever fucking reason, locked it behind a quest.

You have to blow up the Institute. If you do, you will be able to capture gorillas with mutfruits. There's a mod that unlocks the cage for everyone though.

>>171744078
I wish more of the game had the same feeling of challenge and exploring a post nuclear wasteland that the glowing sea has

I guess I just could play Stalker and Metro

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>>171744450
>Metro
And i wish model was open world, mostly because boobies but that's not the point.

Last light was awesome, expanded much on the metro universe hell the writer rewrote his book for last light as it was better than his original book.

>>171744437
>Bethesda, for whatever fucking reason, locked it behind a quest
It's called choice and consequences.

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>>171744526
>choice and consequences
>in a Bethesda game

>>171744796
At least they tried. Apparently though, if they do lock you out of stuff because you did something, it's a bad thing now.

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>>171744526

Well Nuka World has non synth Gorillas.

I wish more of the DLCs added backwards compatibility for wasteland workshop, like how Nuka World added new Automatron stuff.

>Cant capture Fog crawlers, gatorclaws, Brahmiluffs, Gazelles, ghoulrillas, Rad-rats, rad-rabbits, Ants, ant swarms, cave crickets, hermit crabs (okay maybe that would be silly), bloodworms, rad chickens, Anglers, or Gulpers

I don't think anyone's even made a mod for this yet

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>>171743337
Where'd you build those?
Or is this just some foundation floors way high so the terrain doesn't matter at all?

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>>171745003
>Automatron stuff
One day.

>>171744526
Anon what the fuck.
If you blow up the Institute, you shouldn't be able to capture synth gorilla at all, they should all be dead. This makes no sense.

>>171745062
Gorillas are the strongest apes in the planet, kinda like Filipinos. I'm not surprised that they survived that blast.

>>171745003
I'm still waiting for mods to add any and all of those things to Commonwealth spawns. Basegame could use some more wildlife desu.

>>171745006

Starlight theater. Only place big and flat enough.

Also that settlement has very little area for farming, so might as well use it for other stuff.

>>171745062

The guide says you have to blow up the Institute AND do the evacuation order. I dunno why they locked it behind all that very specific shit. If you dont do the evac, they'll all be dead.

>>171745243
What? You not happy with birds and dear? maybe a bear..

>>171745062
Supposedly they're released into the wild if you sound the evacuation notice. Also there's a chance for them to spawn with Institute settlers

>>171745243
>>171745003
I'm surprised no one has bothered yet. What the hell is wrong with FO4 modding community? We finally get an FO3 with decent gameplay and no one wants to dip their dicks in it aside from the waifufags.

Fuck do I have to do this myself?

>>171745003
>capture Hermit Crab
>now he uses the cage as his shell

god dammit

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>modders making 1:1 copies of Brand Name™ ShootyGun 3000® instead of stylized Fallout-themed guns
creativity is a myth

>>171745003
>>ant swarms
>Raiders invade
>swarmed by thousands of little flying ants

>>171744247
>New york city is controlled by the enclave, they controlled all the vaults and had a defense system that protected the city from the war.
lol what poor headcanon; even so, let's not have a third fucking game in a row where the city didn't get nuked, because that's silly at that point

>>171745361
>look at me
>I am the cage now

>>171745414
>AntAgonizer suit is now avaiable in your workshop

>>171745361

I could PROBABLY rig that.

But making the cage dissapear or whatever would require scripting.

>>171745414

heh. I'm picturing it now. They are all weak as hell, though.

>>171745346

I think some modders added Far harbor critters, but not all of them or all of the variants. I think Nuka World hasn't been done yet.

>>171745448
>third

Vegas and?

>>171745518
Not him, but one modder did add bunnies, chickens and radroosters. Although that's pretty much it.

>>171745583
Boston didn't get nuked, only the military and industrial sites cited in what's now the Glowing Sea

>>171745414
>no antgun to terrorize raiders with

>>171745518
Ask Trainwiz for his godly assistance. Cage shell hermit crab mod sounds like something he would want to be a part of.

>>171745648
>jury rig the broadsider to launch sugar shells that explode on impact covering the raiders who then get swarmed and eaten by the ants that go after the sugar they're covered with

>>171745691
no, it doesn't

>>171745003
> Brahmiluffs, Gazelles

What I really want is to use the cloning machine from the Safari Zone to clone animals for my settlements.

>>171745645
>Boston didn't get nuked, it only got caught in the blast
This is how retarded you sound.

>>171745003
>tfw I've ripped and added brahmiluff to the Mojave before someone else adds them into the Commonwealth

if it's not a CBBE preset or a gun mod, it isn't worth doing, eh

>>171745790
it didn't get nuked, though, you cleft. There's a big difference between being on the very distant edge of the blast to being in the center of it

>>171745813
>ripped and added
>to the Mojave
how would one go about that?

>>171738936
Post yfw there will never be Fallout 1/2/New Vegas on F4 engine.

>>171745895
I'm not about teaching when there's plenty of resources out there to do just that

I'll happily take it out of my assorted rips merge and make it a standalone to post here, though

>>171745737
>SS builds it out of spoons and old telephones

>>171745584

Meh. I wonder if there's something semi-complex that's keeping modders from making more.

It sounds like it should be as easy as "Copy cage" and change "X creature to Y creature" or whatever.

I'm starting to think its quest and script related now, like making fucking legendaries. I don't know how or why Bethesda made it so labyrinthine.

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>>171744437
Oh I know, just was replying to the "only two good cages" post. I mean really gunners are great for farming and all of them are better served doing turrets or so on.

>>171745937
I'm thankful for that, though; I think the making previous games in the new game-trope that follows Beth titles is fucking retarded

>>171745884
They nuked a military installation that happened to be by Boston, thus nuking both in the process. You don't need to be in the crater to have been "nuked" as long as you're within the blast radius and experience the effects of such(i.e. death and destruction).

>>171746093
If Vegas didn't get nuked, why does it still look like a shit?

>>171745990
The cloning machine is already there and spitting out an endless stream of gazelles. All the SS would have to do is feed it some brahmin DNA and ship the result to his settlements.

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>>171745895

People tell me that Skyrims OS works with New Vegas.

I don't know for sure but this might mean you can rig monsters for NV using Skyrims OS, and editing the skeleton.

One of these days I'm going to take Geckos from NV and put them in FO4. I'm still not sure what the best skeleton for them would be. It might sound silly but I'm thinking feral ghoul. That way it can run at you, but also get on its hands and feet. Or mirelurk king / Angler.

>>171746093
Boston's practically fine, my man

look at Bakersfield, LA or DC for cities that actually done got fucked and weren't only caught in the outer reaches of a blast

>>171746142
200 years of neglect.

>>171746142
The inner segment of Vegas didn't get nuked. Freeside was, and nobody's bothered to clean it up for 200 years.

>>171746219
>DC
Apart from the giant scrapwalls, it looks fine.

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>>171746142

200 years of:
>no government
>no infrastructure
>little to no farming
>pillaging/looting/raiding/scavenging
>weather anomalies

>>171746142
because 200 years of raiders and tribal conflict as well as immediate Post-War looting with lacking emergency services to put out blazes

>>171744390

NY becoming a FUCKHUEG crater was retconned, look the holotapes on the BOS airship
the prydwen passed through there and NY became a John Carpenter's paradise
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBWC2p_T738
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJpznMaZ85c
as someone pointed it before, manhathan would be a high lvl area where you need to walk through the buildings with bridges jetpacks and etc due to the highly irradiated sea, and mutants

also, NY is closer to the area of influence of both BoS and Minutemen, also it a good place for the Followers of the Apocalypse pop up and study the area.

>>171746298
>Freeside was (nuked)
no it fucking wasn't, whose ass are you pulling that chestnut out from?

>>171746425
>also it a good place for the Followers of the Apocalypse pop up
a group stretched thin due to only moving from LA to Las Vegas are going to go set up shop across the other side of the continent? That's even more retarded than the Enclave having a full contingent that traveled across the country in FO3, despite their numbers only ever being in the hundreds at their peak

>>171746425
>area where you need to walk through the buildings with bridges jetpacks and etc
I'd love more vertical gameplay if the insides of structures also were fleshed out to some degree

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>>171746142
>>171746351
Man, seeing the world turn into ember. What a sight it must have been.

>>171746216
Just use small Gatorclaws for Geckos? Ghouls have probably different code since they can lose limbs and stuff.

>>171746441
maybe they meant what became the rubble outside of freeside with all the rubble forming a wall around it

>>171746425
>followers of the apocalypse
>in Bethesda games
>implying it won't be another le church of atom xD !

>>171746543

its fallout for fucks sake

NV already stated that the khans found a large group of Followers in wyoming, in the middle ass of the country and they ended up uniting to form the Khan Empire, thanks to the Followers knowlege on history and diplomacy

the followers aren't a thin ass organization if you look at NV, they have a lot of people.

NY would be a good place to see them look for old world knowledge

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>>171720940

>Cito not meet many people before. Cito gets shy.

Looks like Cito is cool with the Operators.

>>171746776

Deathclaws would be weird because they have that bodyslam ability

I guess it could be removed but I wanna see other options first

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xth for finding love and happiness in the harsh wasteland

>>171747070
Ghouls would be certainly worse because they have that leap with with falling down also they have that biting animation when they are missing both hands and they get immobilized once you shoot their legs off. At least Deathclaw's / Gatorclaw's strifing works for Gecko.

>>171746982
>found a large group of Followers
it says they reconnected with the Followers, but it never states the size of said group

I'm still of the opinion that trawling across the entire American wastes for knowledge is beyond their goals

>just found out when you hold items with E and then you hold R and release you will throw items

Was this in Skyrim and Fallout 3 too? Holy shit

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>>171747251

Anglers out at least

They walk too funny

>>171746982

how a khan empire based on trading, protection and the knowlege of the followers would be?


Ku'blai Temujin Ka'Gan part II the electric boogaloo with Regis?

>>171746543
>That's even more retarded than the Enclave having a full contingent that traveled across the country in FO3, despite their numbers only ever being in the hundreds at their peak
This fucked me off so much at the time, but nothing compared to the countless retards who ///still/// scream for more Enclave.

>>171745518
I'd rather not have Nuka World's monsters in the base game, desu. They're way worse bullet sponges than vanilla stuff.

>>171748565
I wouldn't mind seeing the different raider types but the creatures can stay in Nuka-World.

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Anyone else just walking around the Glowing Sea and roleplaying he is on different planet?

>>171748649
It would be nice that if you ignore Nuka World for long enough, they kill Coulter on their own and come back to the Commonwealth.
Or have them disperse and hide there after you finish Open Season.

>>171748508

shut up tagaziel

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>>171748334

Mirelurk kings could be cool for Geckos, but they like the other walk on all fours all the time.

Argh. I guess its going to have to be either deathclaws or ferals.

>>171747251

I still think ferals would be better...Geckos aren't big strong reptiles like Deathclaws, they're more like little nuisances and they run kinda funny. Except fire geckos of course.

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>>171748835
It's probably a better space experience than No Man's Sky.

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Quick. Obsidian announces new vegas remake in fo4 engine, with cut quests and legion content, concept art tier remaster of freeside and the strip, new dlc and corrected voice acting.
What is your face?

>>171746543
>>171748508
Didn't FO2 imply the Enclave had outposts all over the world?

>>171748982
Starbound's a better experience than No Man's Sky.

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>>171748989

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>>171749079
I don't know if that was ironic but Starbound is a great game.

Trying to design a settlement for sanctuary, I've got a basic tower already built however i'm unsure if i should build more and connect them?

Or just link it up to a wall surrounding it.

>>171748989
No NCR or Brotherhood content?

>>171748989
>This is why I accepted the cold embrace of death so I could goto the land of dreams.
>>171749163
I liked the beta more honestly the full release killed some of the charm with the changes they made.

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>>171749079
Staring at a blank wall is a better experience than playing NMS.

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>>171748989
>things that will never happen

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>>171749163
>Starbound is a great game
It had a lot of good concepts really but constant delays, jewing devs and cut content rather much killed it for me.

>>171749216
Same thing with the beta.
And then they keep changing stuff anyway, all the time.

>>171749215
>Brotherhood content
for what purpose

>>171748916

you have Gatorclaws for that already

though its strange that the fuckers didn't replicated all over the commonwealth and more after they escaped the labs

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>>171749215
forgot image.

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>>171748989
>muh legion towns

just make new vegas 2 like josh sawyer wanted to

>>171749396
Fuck that, go north to Oregon/Washington, we don't need Vegas again I want to see new Arroyo.

Don't be dumb, next FO Obsidian game takes place in Louisiana.

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>>171749163
>>171749163
>>171749289

I still like Starbound. The upcoming space overhaul and mech update is probably going to hurt my modding progress in FO4 for a little while.

>Space stations added to all systems
>Interaction with other spaceships
>Customizable mechs with adjustable weapon arms

My dick has never been so erect for an upcoming Starbound update.

>>171749456
>>171749396
Alright!

NCR Won the battle against the legion and drove them back, only to have house come in with his robots and clean up the troops using the mark 1 OS.

Later during the time between the battle and the second game, House manages to active the MK2 OS.

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>>171749498
The next FO game is going to be the the NCR BoS vs the Enclave vs the MW BoS vs Maxson's BoS
with circle of steel and remnant BoS sidequests

>>171749585
Buffscale, What are the chances of building an underwater city using the sub as a way to access it?

This city contains the enclave, basically rapture but built in the fallout style..

>>171749380

Yeah I really really really doubt Cito killed every last one. I imagine some left the grounds and started breeding, thus becoming one more creature to be aware of.

Also I really don't want to use deathclaw animations for the Geckos, but I might have to.

>>171749586
If we go north, NV doesn't need a canon ending.

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>>171749674
ENCLAVE RAPTURE? You've got my full attention.

>>171749586
may i make a minor change.

battle ends in stalemate, both sides lose and then house comes in and cleans them up.

It means that everyones happy.

>>171749216
>>171749289
I really can't tell if the full release is better or not because I never played beta, but when I bought it I instantly fell for it and played it for solid 120 hours or so. Game is comfy as fuck.

>>171749585
They are working on updates? That's great, I had really pimped character on laptop but now I am on PC and Starbound doesn't have Steam Cloud. I thought that maybe I could transfer the save but I don't know if I would keep my achivement progress on fossils etc.

>>171749674

Uh...it would be time consuming building the exterior and interior.

But if you just did the interior, not super hard. Maybe glass port holes and windows showing buildings under the ocean...it'd be doable but someone would have to make the meshes and shit for it.

I'd rather see domed glass under the ocean than how Rapture did it.

>>171749674
Just get FalloutShock mod, it's a submarine near Castle that takes you underwater, there is underwater apartment and vista on underwater city.

Bonus immersion with Submersible Power Armor

>>171749804
True. Last thing we want are triggered legionkiddies
Including me

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>>171749830

They've been working on updates for a while.

I doubt they're going to drop Starbound any time soon. I think now that they have asstons of money and free time, they want to keep perfecting Starbound. I'm pretty sure Tiy wants it to be a definitive all-encompassing space game, where Spore failed. Just look at the new nav UI they teased.

You will be able to interact with other ships in this new UI...they said some of them may be traveling merchant ships.

>>171748996
yes, but an outpost doesn't equate to a full standing force of troops; I'd be more inclined to think they're primarily stop-off points ala the vertibird refueling bunker we see in the Mojave

>>171750071
That is nice, what turned me off the most was the story and lore changes though, it killed a lot of what I liked in the game giving it a set story, and stuff like the florian lore changes just felt odd.

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>>171748989

>>171749723

you can still see a lot of bloodworms all over the fucking Nuka world

Gatorclaws would be all over the swamp, and sewer areas around boston and the commonwealth on the years to come

also doesn't gulpers are simply Mutated Salamanders as the geckos, though different species?

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>>171749656
Salvaged power armor would look pretty amazing in the new engine

>helmet injects buffout directly into the eyeballs every 15 minutes

>>171748859
>tagaziel
literally what the fuck does that mean
>>171748989
Sawyer has already said he wouldn't make New Vegas again as he's already made it once, so... yeah.

>>171750071
They should add more biomes and more structures in biomes, it would be good to see mix of that acid world biome + scorched world biome, basically Glowing Sea.

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>>171749907
yeah but it conflicts with castle rebuilt, which is basically my favorite mod. rip.
so dudes what programs would i need to replace the minuteman banner with (or just create) space marine banners?

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>>171746216
What about Gulpers?

Basically... how hard it is to learn to mod Fallout 4 from scratch?

I have no experience with coding or modeling or anything, I just would like to fuck around a bit, maybe create a new room or something.

>>171750462
download GECK/xEdit and go nuts, then

when it comes to Beth games it's the most ez mode modding possible

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>>171749674
>Enclave Rapture

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>>171749674
>enclave, basically rapture
>not moonbase

>>171749674
that sounds so fucking dumb

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>>171750436

Gulpers use deathclaw animations

Though after taking a better look at ferals, deathclaws might be the only decision.

>unrelated note
>The CK can preview animations added by modders

Huh. Couldn't do that for Skyrim.

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>>171750757
the enclave didn't have the technology to go to the moon.

>>171750757
Ever since Van Buren my dick has been longing for the idea that the main villain from the game has base on the moon and end game quest requires you to repair spaceship ala "Come Fly With Me" style.

>>171750826
>a middle aged grocery store clerk took the time to record a shitty webm of a robot pretending to jack off

really makes you think

>>171750757
Isn't Trauma Harness really lore-breaking through?

Basically reanimated corpses = zombies... in Fallout?

>>171750972
there were going to be straight up skeleton enemies in OWB, sans suit, but they were cut

>>171746216
I wonder if you could port new vegas over anyway. Rip the terrain, redo it with fallout 4 textures, work out some form of conversion for the enemies, like stingwings to cazadores, gulpers to geckos, bigger ants from Nuka World for giant ants, etc. Find a way to work out the weapons and perk systems. Get the dialogue back to the NV/3 style, and so it functions visually like the old style.

Honestly it would probably be easier than the skywind conversion. itd the same engine, the hardest part would be bringing the skill system and checks back

>>171750841
Debatable.
Their endgame was to use vaults to test the effects of longterm isolation on a small community; basically prepping for space colonization. Plus we don't know what the "Sea of Tranquility" conflict was about...probably never will, seeing as how Bethsoft pissed away most of their DLC budget on glorified paid mods

>>171750972
they're just super duper high tech robots

>>171750972
its the suits doing the moving though, they malfunctioned while people were wearing them and they died inside them

ghouls are sort of zombies in a way

>>171751015

It would be thousands of hours of work.

>>171751015
>itd the same engine
no, it's not; it's the same engine in the same way Unreal Engine 3 is Unreal Engine 4, i.e. not the same
>>171751083
>thousands
just because you take months to put out a gun put together with preexisting assets, don't imply that others have your lacking ability or motivation, see: the Fallout 3 remake that's already happening

>>171750972
The suit is AI controlled and uses built-in servos for movement. Think of it like an autonomous power armor frame with a dead person inside.

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>>171751142
>just because you take months to put out a gun put together with preexisting assets
It's not like we'll even need it when [pic] is coming, too.

>>171751142

I honestly can't think of a single total conversion mod thats been completed.

Making all the buildings, interiors, NPCs, aligning the voices, rigging new creatures, even with a team of 30 fucking people, would take months.

FO3 would probably be a bit easier because 2/3 of the map is nothing but emptiness, and it basically already has all the old creatures made for them. New Vegas would be a lot harder on many different levels. Like I said...it would be thousands of hours of work.

>>171751269
>caster which isn't either a rusty cube or just an existing plasma model that's been tinkered with (which makes no sense as one was made by REPCONN and the other by Winchester, meaning they'd look different)
nice!

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>>171751542
If you're happy about that, there's also [pic].

>>171751752
>>171751269
>Buffscale BTFO

>>171751902
aw, leave him alone, little mod-things are presumably all he's got

>>171751752

the tubes need more polygons

>>171751954
probably a low poly model without normal mapping

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let's post one more WiP for good luck

Buff could just release his effort as a REPCONN Plasma Caster instead of calling it a Winchester P94 and then all would be well and both versions could coexist

>>171746142
All the organizations that actually try to keep the city alive are located in the center. Freeside, the North and West have been left to their own devices for 200 years with anarchy. Buildings fall apart when they don't have heat and moisture regulation or maintenance. And something had to be torn down to construct the huge walls around the city. Places like Nipton and Goodsprings are much easier to manage on a village level of near resource-communism, and they didn't have to be abandoned when infrastructure crumbled. You take away all the imports of Las Vegas and it can't sustain itself. Predictably the wealthiest and most ruthless of survivors managed to hoard and protect the resources they had, and were able to establish more limited scale infrastructures in the remains of a former metropolis.

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>>171751269
Can't say I'm a fan of how Obsidian basically ported over a (admittedly cool as fuck) model from the 90s and said "Yes, this looks good in a 2010 game"
Bethesda is hit and miss with their asset modernization, but at least they try

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>>171752250
are you mad, my man? I'd put this in my top 3 looking weapons from the 3D games

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>>171752250
>Can't say I'm a fan of how Obsidian basically ported over a (admittedly cool as fuck) model from the 90s and said "Yes, this looks good in a 2010 game"


>Hey man remember that guy who did renders for Fallout 2?
>Yeah what about him
>Well he send us some models back then didn't he?

>>171752250
>Obsidian are wrong for putting iconic series guns in a same series title as opposed to making up some shitty new guns in their place
fuck that. One of my many gripes with Fallout 4 is their lack of using preexisting source material when it comes to the weaponry.

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>>171751902

I think its a high quality model, and especially accurate to what they're making from NV, but I still like the designs of my own. I'll still finish mine.

I might just give mine a slight lore change, like being an updated design by Repconn, or advanced military variant. Or Institute. Or electric. Honestly the plasma rifle page has a fucking ton of different designs so I don't see how mine can't feasibly fit in as well.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Plasma_rifle

>>171752410
What? Robots like Sentry Bot or weapons like Flamer are detailed as fuck. They still keep iconic characteristics while looking like 2010's game.

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>>171752326
Casters are fucking sexy.

>>171752532
>P94 Caster
>Smitty Special (an edited P94)
>REPCONN Urban Plasma Rifle
>Multiplas
these are the only canonical ones featured on that page, w/ the MIL-SPEC P94 in your post not being confirmed canon or not as it's Tactics only, so no, there's not "a fucking ton of different designs", but yeah, yours could still definitely work if you went the REPCONN route; don't use military as they contract companies to produce their arms for them and Institute makes no sense as they have terminals talking about considering doing plasma weapon projects, meaning they haven't done them yet

>>171752250
>asset modernization

Remember when George Lucas decided that the tech in Star Wars shouldn't limit itself to the visual designs of late 70's sci-fi when the prequels were made? Yeah that went well. And what a disaster it was for TFA and R1 to go back to the original art style.

>>171752537
I meant that they have a pool of hundreds of in series weapons to pick from and instead they give us trash like the assault rifle as well as a combat shotgun and rifle that look the same

>>171752410

Gauss in FO4 is the same old FO2 gauss

the art style changed but is the same old weapon.

the NV mod was stupid as fuck, though less stupid than the fucking Gauss minigun.

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>>171752250
>if Bethesda hadn't modeled a Gauss Rifle in Operation Anchorage, Obsidian probably would've made a gun that looked like pic related

>>171752980
>the art style changed but is the same old weapon.

that's retarded. That's like me showing you two completely different 9x19mm Parabellum chambered pistols and saying that they're the same because they're both pistols that shoot the same caliber

>>171753089

retarded its what you said now tagaziel

>>171752980
>turned a military spec polished rifle used by Enclave forces into a ramshackle piece of shit covered in loose wires like it's either scrap-made or a prototype

nope.

>>171750352
>so dudes what programs would i need to replace the minuteman banner with (or just create) space marine banners?


please for help

>>171753014

That would probably look better if it didn't look like it was made of tin.

>>171752754

I'm still thinking either Institute or have these be East coast weapon prototypes. One of the unique ones I wanted to add was gonna be Institute built, but got stolen.

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>>171753014
>split barrel

Is it supposed to be like that? Why? It's a gauss gun, not a rail gun. And even a rail gun only has split rails because that's the point of the gun. Outside the rails it needs to have a rigid non-conductive structure to keep it from bending out of shape or shorting out.

The Fallout 3 gauss ported to NV isn't any better btw

pic related: Practical-looking noncommercial limited production gauss gun.

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>>171753453

I kinda liked the FO3 Gauss rifle desu.

I liked the headcanon one anon had of the Gauss rifle in FO3 being a Chinese one.

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Beware of...

THE GUARDIANS OF THE COMMONWEALTH

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Is this true?

>>171753748
it's not headcanon, so much, the MEC Gauss Minigun was Chinese and there's Commie propaganda with them utilizing the FO3 Gauss, but then at the same time, there's terminal entries stating it's US-made, so it's up in the air a bit

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>>171738936
That map makes me moist ...
Is that some fanwank or some mod or what ?

>>171753830
I'd argue some shmuck who doesn't get autismal about Fallout lore and can just enjoy video games will have a better chance at having bitches than me, mostly because I'm too busy being autismal about Fallout lore

>>171749390
Console command scrap all is your friend.

>>171753976
That just makes me wonder if US corporations would sell weapons to the Chinese too.

>>171754080

just ignore it ita tagaziel and nma shitposting here again

>>171753453
If you combined the back end of the Fallout 4 rifle with the front of a Fallout 3 rifle and shook it up a bit you'd have a really cool looking gun

>>171754320
UM? Why.

>>171749874
Just make modular environments like all games, then you sorta avoid the problem of unique buildings.

Hell, You could block out all the modular bits then build the basic environments and get the story nailed down then work on those later.

I suspect it would have flooded sections for the docks, explaining why the enclave haven't reach the mainland but otherwise the entire city is perfect condition.

expect for the sea monster.

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Hmm, after checking the wiki extensively, and the various pre-war companies, I think it would be neat if my Plasma caster was a unique one created by Poseidon energy. According to cut Van Buren content, they were going to make plasma spears, and worked on other plasma weaponry before...I think I'll add some type of secret laboratory under the Posiedon plant in the Commonwealth with some of the casters in it.

Of course like everything else crammed in last minute, I'd probably only make it a very early model that was developed just a few months before the bombs fell. I might also have this lab chock full of gen 1 synths looting the place up. Poseidon has made some really fucking advanced shit, even for Fallout. I'll probably have to give my plasma weapons a cool sounding greek name to fit in with their theme.

They already had one called "Semele" but I dunno. I kinda like Hephaestus more because he was the god of fire and forging, and plasma casters originally were welders. Plus Hephaestus sounds cooler. The Roman name is also Vulcan, but I think something already uses that.

>>171754752
>UM? Why.
Because it lets you to start from the scratch and not be hindered by some unremovable tree or house.

>>171754519
you do realize this isn't a safe space and most of us are happy to hear opinions from "the other side of the camp", right? I love Fallout 4 and can't get enough, but that doesn't make any criticisms of it rile me up, because I'm not a fanboy like you; if you want a safes pace, then fuck off elsewhere, you're honestly the most annoying poster in this thread ever.

>>171754962
>Update
Why not make it into a rifle but mounting those blades?

>>171754519
>this fag again

Will you fuck off already, you "ow my video game feelings are hurt" pussy.

>>171755084

>calling /fog/ safespace


reddit please

>>171755196
He called it the opposite, you mouth breather.

>>171755078
Your going to have to backup some of those claims and show me in extreme detail what it will look like "clean"

>>171755196
except that I called it the opposite of that with the intention of calling him out for always playing the NMA card, but okay!

>>171738936
We already got Kingston peak dumbass, its called Old World Blues

>>171755273
Nigga, do this yourself ( backup saves of course ).
It simply scraps everything from your settlement except NPC's and Workshop bench.
Then you can rebuild any location from the ground up and not be bothered by unremovable buildings, lamps, skeletons etc.

>>171755104

Poseidon makes crazy shit anon. They developed Archimedes. Now I can make the fire rate actually make sense for the size of the weapon. This is basically going to be a stronger version of the plasma pistols and plasma rifles, and stronger than the original plasma casters.

Basically a crazy heavy plasma weapon. I planned on doing that from the get-go, but now I feel a little less bad about making plasma cannons and plasma beam attachments.

I really wish Bethesda explained plasma flamers and plasma splitters better. New Vegas made a huge amount of exposition for stuff like multiplas, but the SS can just make flamers and scatter pistols on his own.

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>decide to actually give Fallout 4 a try
>character creation is complete shit but that's just tradition at this point
>this roleplaying game immediately asks me to believe I am married, a decorated war veteran, a home owner, a tax payer, not a virgin, older than 20 and hygienic
>this is a big red flag immediately because it demands I swallow more than just "some vault dweller/mailman" and I can't fill in the minor details through gameplay, traits, etc.
>I walk out of my bathroom and my robot butler (I forgot I'm also reasonably well-off financially) tells me to go drink coffee while he tends to my baby (I forgot I'm also a parent)
>there is no way to actually talk to this robot or tell him "nah I've got it, you have a fucking sawblade for a hand"
>he just goes on regardless of whether I talk to him and stares longingly at my rubber baby Bethesda was too lazy to shade according to my character or husband's skin so it's always black
>I usher myself into my modestly sized living room and pray something will distract me from the rapidly simmering contempt
>immediately realize my living room feels less like a home and more like a sterile lifeless museum exhibit of Fallout 3
>look it's nuka cola, you remember nuka cola right
>theres some sugar bombs too, just sitting desolate in the middle of this pristine kitchen table
>and look it's grognak the barbarian comic book, why would a pair of grown people own this haha
>here's some alcohol, you cant drink or take it though because you dont want to, we tell you what you want
>and here's a holotape player which we could have easily just called "record player" because it looks identical, enjoy the exact same dry ass music from Fallout 3
>my husband/wife, who acted like we just fucking met in the bathroom a minute ago because he constantly asked basic questions about my hair and eyeballs, stares into the void of a jpeg newspaper and ignores me commenting on every detail of the room
>then the doorbell rings

>>171748989
How much of New Vegas's was due to Bethesda, and how much of it was due to having to release it on console?

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>>171755730
>unfortunately it's not the grim reaper but a rather man from vault-tec
>he greets me and I am given the following dialogue options:
>Hello!
>Hello! What's Vault-Tec?
>Hello! I'm a douchebag!
>Hello!
>the protagonist (not me or my character; he is clearly voiced and has inflections/personality I cannot project onto him) says whatever will jog the man's next inevitable 100% certain-and-cannot-be-changed-or-altered line of dialogue
>and if I dont then my husband certainly will, who slides in behind me like the ever-present specter of bethesda looming over this series, and says the things I'm supposed to say
>keep picking the prick options to 'admire' how bethesda sidesteps around me refusing to advance the plot
>realize vault-man is offering the protagonist a place in a vault because the protagonist served in the army
>remember: there is no way the protagonist can be a young kid or a chinese spy or a conscientious objector or a drug dealer; he's a veteran
>I also cant tell the guy to fuck off because I know that 99% of the vaults were just deranged illegal social experiments
>no, I graciously accept this exposition on the vaults and chekov's a-bomb and then slam the door in his fucking face
>after poking my baby for a few seconds the television then yells surprise! the nuclear war even a toddler could have predicted is now happening
>thank goodness vault man told me all about it and where to go less than 40 seconds ago
>after a brisk jog around my multicultural tolerant neighborhood full of various races and sexual orientations based on 1950s culture I end up at the vault with my husband
>"i sure hope our BABY will live"
>stare into the horizon and watch an atomic explosion in the distance, and by "in the distance" I mean less than a few miles away because the blast radius is harsh enough to approach within five seconds
>as I contemplate how my character wouldnt immediately suffer hiroshima levels of radiation poisoning my game mercifully crashes

>>171755730
>>and look it's grognak the barbarian comic book, why would a pair of grown people own this haha

Confirmed for shitter

SS is nerd, he loves the Unstopabbles. Now you will face the death, and I am it's Shroud.

>>171755479
Big mountain*

Man, The vault tech rep has had a hard life.

I honestly thought he was running that cult that demands all your stuff, I'm glad i was wrong.


Damn, Shame he isn't a follower.

>>171755752
consoles and gamebryo, mostly consoles

>>171755752
Its more like
>How much of NV was Obsidian with their long tradition and history of not being able to get anything done ever

See
>NWN2
>KOTOR2
>Dungeon Siege 3
>Alpha Protocol

New Vegas was surprisingly complete by Obsidian standards.

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>>171755730
>>171755861

And that's when I realized: this game made me hate every single thing about it before I even finished the tutorial. I didn't see the vault, pick up a gun or do anything other than engage in the dialogue system. Something that was at least engaging in all prior Fallout games that aren't 3.

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>>171756007
Literally only good shit about F4 is the setllement building shit and gunplay.
Graphics is also nice, especially with some good ENB, if you want to look at some great tits and asses and take lewd screenshots.

>>171756002

Why do people expect Obsidian to develop fleshed-out games in a year's time? A year doesn't get you Planescape, it gets you a Call of Duty reiteration. The fact they make stuff like New Vegas in spite of this should be impressive.

>>171756403
>as he posts a medium-resolution suicide girl

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>>171756007
Your anger makes me giggle

>>171756507
>not liking suicide girls

>>171755676
Buff, Poseidon makes no sense, my man, they were an Enclave front with PoseidoNet being the Enclave's communication system; if they had any final success with such experiments, they'd have been Post-War experiments, most likely, or they'd have been fielding the results already and there's no apparent Post-War Enclave facilities in the Commonwealth

you're looking at unfinished and/or abandoned Pre-War projects that a player with high science skill could finish and subsequently produce, so to find them in a complete state would be bizarre, ESPECIALLY when the bulkiness of the P94 was the reason for them ditching it as a military force

>>171756412
>Why do people expect Obsidian to develop fleshed-out games in a year's time?
Because they aren't supposed to develop fleshed out games in a year's time

They are expected to make quick turn out sequels to other people's products while the hype is still strong for more sales.

>The fact they make stuff like New Vegas in spite of this should be impressive.
New Vegas isn't impressive given that 90% of it was done for them already, and they still failed to make an actually functioning game.

>>171756762

Funnily enough the parts that are done are the parts that remain terrible, from the karma system to weapon jam animations for shitty Fallout 3 guns.

It's easy to call New Vegas an expansion or tack-on until you actually play it, then suddenly Fallout 3 feels like an unfinished alpha.

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>>171756762
>failed to make an actually functioning game.
We had played two entirely different games then becasue my FNV is vastly improved over 3 in any respect that wasn't set in stone by Bethesda engine...

>>171756651

I thought about that. I might put blueprints there.

I'm getting kinda tired of trying to think of where to put them at the moment so I might just throw caution to the wind and put them in there anyway, and let NMA or whoever else screech about it all the want. And add to leveled lists.

If Bethesda can put X-01 in Nuka World after all...there's also X-01 all over the game, so I'm kinda wondering if MIT and Poseidon influenced all that shit all over Boston, and had secret development labs fucking everywhere in the area.

>>171754962
FYI, Semele data was stolen by REPCONN and used to solve their last issue in the creation of the plasma rifle introduced in Fallout 3, with the Q-35 in NV being a prototype in the lead up to that model

>>171756403
its basically what mass effect andromeda is
good gameplay, good (for the most part) graphics, good optional bits, but terrible story and voice acting.

>>171756918
>Funnily enough the parts that are done are the parts that remain terrible
Actually, the exact opposite is ture, everything from textures to mechanics, the parts that were in Fallout 3 are the far more functional ones, where Obsidian made shit is far worse.

You can see this even in the armors, where armor taken directly from Fallout 3 usually better textures then ones made by OBsidian for New Vegas. New Vegas's new armor usually have half the resolution size of the Fallout 3 armor for some ungodly reason.

This sin't even getting into how shit like
-Faction rep
-The disguise system
-DT armor
-Alternate ammo types

and much more don't work like they are supposed to since OBsidian simply cant code worth a shit.

There is a reason why Obsidian's name is considered a bad omen in the game industry, and why no major publisher or developer wants to interact with them.

>>171757286

Then I guess Poseidon could steal it back and make their own.

Shit like that happens all the time in the contemporary world, and FO's pre-war world was corrupt as fuck, so I can see it.

>>171757393
>There is a reason why Obsidian's name is considered a bad omen in the game industry, and why no major publisher or developer wants to interact with them.

Probably because they propose things like competent storytelling and actual RPG mechanics, all things Bethesda immediately threw in the garbage when developing 4.

How do DT, ammo types and factions not work? I've never had a problem with those in comparison to the horrible Bethesda mapping AI, which allows me to outsmart ten deathclaws by standing on a minecart.

>>171757393
And yet FNV is both fan and critically acclaimed to be better than 3 and in many cases F4...

>b-b-but muh bad Obsidian O!

>>171757393
>Alternate ammo types
>broken
maybe if you are retarded

alternate ammo types are sorely missed in 4
and its not like it isn't included because the syringer and trash launcher use it in 4

>>171757190
I think put the regular in level lists and, assuming there is one, any special variants in a REPCONN truck

>>171757575
>And yet FNV is both fan and critically acclaimed to be better than 3 and in many cases F4...
What? No, it isn't. On /v/ and I would assume places like NMA NV is considered better, but by the public AND critics both 3 and 4 are generally considered better.

Why do you think places like /v/ are so triggered by NV getting only an 84 on Metacritic?

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>>171757664
>trash launcher
>these fucking morons refuse to let go of a failed publicity stunt item used 9 years ago

What ever happened to the M1941 Johnson mod?

>>171757758
>but by the public AND critics
a couple years ago IGN ranked the Fallout series and put New Vegas at #1

you're chatting shit, my dude

>>171757758
>On /v/ and I would assume places like NMA NV is considered better, but by the public AND critics both 3 and 4 are generally considered better.

If we're talking about gaming "journalism" then of course, Fallout 3 and 4 had way more budget pumped into ensuring those scores were good.

But when it comes to actually talking about those games, whether on 4chan or tumblr or Reddit or pretty much anywhere not paid to like it, New Vegas consistently promotes more discussion and nostalgia than Fallout 3 or 4. The only time I ever see 3 discussed is to make fun of plot holes for instance.

>>171757758
>Why do you think places like /v/ are so triggered by NV getting only an 84 on Metacritic?>>

Funny you mention MEtacritic.
F3 has the user score of 7.9, NV has 8.6 and F4 has lousy 5.5 ...
So yeah, its generally better recieved BY PEOPLE.
Cry more Bugfestacuck.

>>171757886
>New Vegas #1
>Fallout 2 #2

this list is spot on.

>>171757563
>like competent storytelling
Except they have never had any of that either and even Sawyer has admitted several times that New Vegas's story does make sense on many fundamental concepts ranging from the Legion, to House taking over the tribals, to the courier even wanting to go after Benny in the first place.

>How do DT,
DT doesn't work because its a straight subtraction system with a cap of 80% damage reduction. When combined with how low damage most weapons in the game do, its entirely possible to reach max possible damage negation with even many light armors. This makes medium and heavy armors pointless, and even objectively worse then light armors, becuase they weigh more, take up more inventory space, and slow down your movement, all for zero effective damage negation.

Even Sawyer admitted the DT system does not work, and gave all medium and heavy armors DR in his mod so that they would actually function like they are supposed to because DR actually works.

> ammo types
Alternate ammo types are largely pointless in New Vegas because of the problems with the DT armor system. Bypassing armor doesn't mean shit when armor doesn't really DO much of anything in New Vegas in the first place.

And doing extra damage to unarmored NPCs with that special kind of ammo is equally pointless because the game throws so many +damage bonuses on you that you can easily kill shit near instantly even without it.

Alt ammo types are only debateably useful on very hard mode, but only because enemies, especially DLC ones, are more bullet spongy then even in Fallout 4 on very hard, aka, bad game design.

Alt ammo types are ltierally nothing more then flavor in NV.

> ammo types
The problem with factions is that the NV faction rep system uses a system of generalized +/- for every little vague action you do, regardless of if it makes sense or not.
(cont)

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>>171758105
>Except they have never had any of that either and

Post discarded!

>>171758105
>to House taking over the tribals, to the courier even wanting to go after Benny in the first place.

Are you the same idiot who argued a thread ago about how House not wanting to take over the world before the NCR "made no sense?"

>it's another RPG vs. ARPG episode

reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee-

play both, enjoy both; play one, enjoy that

it's fucking simple.

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>>171758105
>Alt ammo types are ltierally nothing more then flavor in NV.

" I never played that game "- you could just say that and save us the trouble ..

>to the courier even wanting to go after Benny in the first place.
Thats where RP part comes in, you can RP different psyches in FNV, unlike in F4 where is only muh Shaun and im suppose to care.

>even Sawyer has admitted several times that New Vegas's story does make sense on many fundamental concepts
[Citation needed]

>>171758274
It probably is ..

>>171758105
Take for example the nukes at the end of lonesome road, or killing a squad of faction NPCs in the desert. Both give you rep changes, depsite the fact both of them are things no one was around to see you do, or left alive to report that you did.

Its all based on psychic magic all knowing NPCs, which fundamentally makes factions LESS believable, as now they are changing their opinions of you for shit they have no way of knowing you did.

This all knowingness also several limits gameplay choices since its not impossible to play both sides and everyone automatically knows everything you did, and for what reason.

GOOD games use systems more like Fallout 4's a scripted trigger based system where the only things NPC react to are thing they have reason to know you did, allowing you to play both sides, and not get hated for things they should have no way of knowing about.

>>171757575
>And yet FNV is both fan and critically acclaimed
Except NV has the lowest metascore of all the modern Fallout games,

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>>171758401
>metascore
>game that had the lowest marketing budget and is significantly less casual scored less in the eyes of casual bought out reviewers

Well color me red and call my Ceasar, aint that a suprise.

User score for FNV trumps both 3 and 4 and that is what ultimately matters.

>>171758274
No? I have no idea what you are talking about.

Sawyer has said on his forums spring, and his tumblr, when people brought the questions up to him that

A. Caesar's ability to conquer 86 tribes, and completely scrub them all of tribal identity in just 30 years, is highly implausible, if not outright impossible

B. Similarly, House's ability to do the same to the three families as much as he did was equally implacable.

C. The courier has no logical story reason to go after Benny, and he said they should have given you the option to just leave the mojave via the mojave outpost because he understand why people wouldn't have reason to go after Benny.

>>171758401
I can't take someone seriously when they use FO4 as an argument for sense, when it's got shit like "X has mutated!" and Diablo-tier random bullshit effects on gear and weapons

you're right about psychic factions, mind you, though I do like the faction system a lot in concept (and honestly, I'd rather have it as-is than nothing at all), it's somewhat flawed in execution

>>171758554
>User score for FNV trumps both 3 and 4 and that is what ultimately matters.
You mean the thing thats been proven to be artificially alterted both postively and negatively from everything from neogaff raids to developers making fake accounts to boost their score?

User score is even less credible then metascore.

>>171758618
>when it's got shit like "X has mutated!" and Diablo-tier random bullshit effects on gear and weapons
I think both of those are bad, but neither are as gameplay effecting as NV's broken as fuck faction system making faction interaction even less credible then games with no system at all.

>>171758105
>DT doesn't work because its a straight subtraction system with a cap of 80% damage reduction. When combined with how low damage most weapons in the game do, its entirely possible to reach max possible damage negation with even many light armors. This makes medium and heavy armors pointless, and even objectively worse then light armors, becuase they weigh more, take up more inventory space, and slow down your movement, all for zero effective damage negation.

It doesn't make them pointless, it makes them an alternative. You can dump one perk point into wearing power armor and forget about it all at the cost of constant weight and demanding high Strength, or you can make your character take several perks with high Endurance to reach a similar level without compromising weight. Or you can stack every damage mitigation or DT boost available to you, making you infraggable at the cost of having very little points to put into anything else.

>Alternate ammo types are largely pointless in New Vegas because of the problems with the DT armor system. Bypassing armor doesn't mean shit when armor doesn't really DO much of anything in New Vegas in the first place.

Wait, what? You just said armor makes a quantifiable difference, how is it pointless now? And not every ammo type has to do with DT.

At a point in the game where you haven't done Dead Money to earn 100000 caps, the decision between twenty AP rounds and twenty junk rounds can mean a lot. Should you take the ammo that will most effectively help you clear out the den of robots you were hired to tend to? Should you buy cheaper rounds so you don't waste that expensive ammo on raiders on your way there? How about just buying (or looting) a gun with cheaper ammo to use in the meantime? Or putting points into melee so you can actually use that sledgehammer?

>are more bullet spongy then even in Fallout 4 on very hard, aka, bad game design.

Nothing is more bullet spongy (or worse designed) than Fallout 4 enemies.

>>171758594
>Sawyer is willing to openly discuss his views on flaws and shortcomings with the game
>Avellone wrote the bible

>Pete Hines just says he doesn't care
>Todd doesn't talk

Obsidian are so based~

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>>171758710
>its a fake when its against us
>but when its in our favour its a fucking God himself speaking on the merit of our favourite title

And FNV has about HALF of the amount of user reviews of both F3 and 4.
So its either a massive upvoting conspiracy on Obsidian part or its just a better game in the eyes of the fans.

>Bugfesta fanboys - denying reality since Oblivion release

>>171758878
>It doesn't make them pointless, it makes them an alternative.
Alternates would imply there is a tradeoff of equal value between them. There isn't.

The only trade offs between light armor and heavy armor is negatives on the part of heavy armor, with no positive gain.

>Wait, what? You just said armor makes a quantifiable difference, how is it pointless now?
I said literally the exact opposite you sperg, are you dyslexic?

>Nothing is more bullet spongy (or worse designed) than Fallout 4 enemies.
I can kill shit even at level 140+ in just a few shots with a fully modified not legendary plasma rifle.

In New Vegas, especially in places like OWB, shit like roboscorpions can take like 8-10 shots from a fucking AMR before going down, not to mention how many hits they take with something less.

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>>171758594
>The courier has no logical story reason to go after Benny,

Revenge.
Thats where RP part comes in my nigga, no one said my Courier has to be entirely logical or coldly calculating.

>>171759012
>And FNV has about HALF of the amount of user reviews of both F3 and 4.
That just makes it even more suspicious given how NV outsold Fallout 3.

>>171759004
truly they are too blessed for this world.

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>>171758594
>Caesar's ability to conquer 86 tribes, and completely scrub them all of tribal identity in just 30 years, is highly implausible, if not outright impossible

"All tribal identity" is probably hyperbole, he most likely wiped out tribes who were passive and actively inducted violent ones. This is why his Legion acts more like a bunch of bloodthirsty cunts LARPing than an actual trained legion of Romans. And considering you wipe out the White Legs, a moderately threatening tribe, in a weekend by yourself it's not infeasible.

>Similarly, House's ability to do the same to the three families as much as he did was equally implacable.

How? All he did was search the area for tribes with traits he admired, send out a robot and offer them casino work and new clothes in exchange for supporting him. The tribes were mostly done to man casinos and posture in front of the NCR, fooling them into thinking House was a more powerful force than he was. Nothing about this is infeasible, House appears to know how to persuade people more than anything else.

>The courier has no logical story reason to go after Benny, and he said they should have given you the option to just leave the mojave via the mojave outpost because he understand why people wouldn't have reason to go after Benny.

Silly joke nonstandard game-overs aside, the reason you go after Benny is because there is a 100% chance the guy would try to have you killed again at some point... you know, like he does within minutes of finding him again at the Tops. If not then, then certainly when he takes over New Vegas with the Platinum Chip (and now has all the money and power at his disposal he could ever want.)

But naturally these aren't plotholes, and more likely than not Sawyer didn't say "this story I wrote is shit!" rather than "if I had more time I would have fleshed out these details more." Don't be such a disingenuous Bethesdacuck.

>>171759120
>Revenge.
You are aware that real life ins't an action movie right?

After getting shot in the head, and surviving, the overwhelming majority of people in the real world don't go on 100+ mile treks through hostile desert for petty revenge.

the only people who do that are classified as psychopaths of the highest caliber.

>Thats where RP part comes in my nigga, no one said my Courier has to be entirely logical or coldly calculating.
Good RP stems from logical reactions to story developments, not having to assume everyone is a total psychopath, despite the game shwoing they aren't, for the game to work.

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>>171759084
>I can kill shit even at level 140+ in just a few shots with a fully modified not legendary plasma rifle.

The game is balanced around level 50 you mongoloid.

>>171758594
>completely scrub them all of tribal identity in just 30 years

It's specifically stated in game that Caesar forcibly bred women and men of different tribes and killed/punished/made examples of dissidents to scrub them of their tribal identities.

>>171759259
>This is why his Legion acts more like a bunch of bloodthirsty cunts LARPing than an actual trained legion of Romans
Actually, according to Sawyer, the reason why they act that way is because only Caesar knows about the roman shit.

Casar's killings of any Followers of the Apocalypse who come into his territory is done out of fear that they will expose the whole "you do all know this shit is fake and just shit he took from a history book" to the rest of the Legion who aren't in o nthe lie.

Which is everyone who isn't him.

>>171759343

You can pretty easily ignore the main story, never get revenge and do all the sidequest stuff.

>>171759417
>>171759417
And yet even Sawyer disagree that that would be enough to get rid of all their tribal identities in just 30 years.

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>>171759393
Enemies still scale far past 50.

>>171759458
>Casar's killings of any Followers of the Apocalypse who come into his territory
where are you getting this shit from? He even lets Old Mormon Fort in Freeside evacuate during the Legion invasion of Vegas (Legion ending) and grants them passage from his lands as a weird token of respect for the people that make us his roots

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>>171759417

>you will never be forcibly bred with a qt enemy tribeswoman and raise a healthy child under the banner and safety of caesar

feels pretty bad senpai

>>171759458
>Casar's killings of any Followers of the Apocalypse who come into his territory is done out of fear that they will expose the whole "you do all know this shit is fake and just shit he took from a history book" to the rest of the Legion who aren't in o nthe lie.

If anything you should be protesting that theory, as there's no feasible way he would be able to wipe out every single Follower who approached the Legion. Not to mention with about 200 pre-war books littering every old world building, it's inevitable someone literate would find info on Romans. He also talks to you about how he took the concept from history books within earshot of his many guards.

Actually now this just sounds like fucking bullshit you made up yourself.

>>171759639
up his roots*
>>171759649
it is bullshit he made up himself, but I think New Vegas is the greatest video game ever made and am not in support of your argument as a whole, FYI

SO.

Gauss Gun.

I always thought the unique version had yellow strips on the shield, is there another the wiki isn't mentioning?

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>>171759197
>That just makes it even more suspicious given how NV outsold Fallout 3.>>

Cool delusions there man.
Less people wrote the review on FNV and generally gave it a good score. So that means that the actual score has to be even higher because each negative review hurts more if you have less reviews.

>>171759343
What a load of crap.

Maybe my Courier is cocky sunofabitch ( no one fucks with me and live type of bullshit ) ?
Maybe something clicked in my head when i got shot ?
Maybe he is a latent psychopath ?
Maybe he is someone that just cant let go and has to know WHY even if it means his death ?

You are talking completely out of your ass now.

The fact alone the FNV is more suited for different RP background than 3 and 4 means its a better RPG game.

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>>171759627

The level cap is 50 you drongo

>>171759639
>>171759649
>Bethesdolt tries to rewrite Caesar with headcanon to "make more sense"
>his theory is retarded and worse written than canon and everyone points it out so he's BTFO

anyone here play frost?

>>171759750
are you thinking of the DKS-501 sniper rifle from Fallout and Fallout 2?

>>171759627
>I modded myself 80 levels higher than level cap
>Why is everything so easy to fight????

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>>171759639
http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Caesar%27s_Legion
>Besides a (highly unlikely) military defeat, Caesar fears one thing only: exposure. The denizens of the wastes are too ignorant to realize that his entire empire is a grand act of plagiarism, but the Followers of the Apocalypse know exactly who he is and what he has done. Should his tribe discover that he cribbed the entire culture from books about ancient Rome, rather than having its customs dictates dictated to him by Mars...well, it's very unlikely that could happen. And he won't let it happen. That is why his forces have a standing order to kill all Followers of the Apocalypse on sight, and to brutalize all "civilized" or learned captives and haul them before Caesar's interrogators. Those who make the mistake of saying, "Hey, you guys, it's like you're emulating the ancient Roman empire," end up as severed heads on poles."