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>2.6: Legacy
https://www.pathofexile.com/legacy
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Skilltree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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1st for fuck anime
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bane?
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What separates Steel from the rabble?
What's his secret?
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>>171684163
he is just a superior human due to his australian genetics. thats all
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>>171684163
Doesn't this person use an auto logout macro when at 50% HP?
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>>171684163
he's a nobody who likes playing vidya
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>>171684268
>australian
So he's literally sitting in the same room as the servers? K
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>player is better than me
>it must just be his ISP
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>>171684163
OUR

GUY
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Champion that which you love.
He who fights for nothing, dies for nothing.
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who's our new girl now that esk is gone?
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>>171618641
>FREE
>>171618750
>free
>>171618824
>FREE
>>171630062
>free
>>171648741
>free
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>>171684608
i fight for those i love
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>>171684647
what happened to her? did she get b&
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anyone know what esk's feet smell like?
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>>171684647
is hannarashi our girl?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOtI4OGoWNk

>asian (so socially awkward af)
>not a pleb
>plays SSF
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>>171684916
what do hanarashi's feet smell like?
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>>171685037
lilac and gooseberries
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>some players use the same league mechanic several times more than was intended
>good god, better permaban them
talk about an overreaction

bravo GiGiGi, really consistent with well known macrousers who remain unbanned after years or get a slap on the wrist 2-week ban at worst
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>>171684882
my tongue
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general build question. When making your build do you commit to a skill first or just go with a general tree and change things based on what you find? Assume ssf and no gear in stash.

I'm doing a first time hc ssf character and the tree and weapon proficiencies are pretty overwhelming when I can't find skills I like until I play
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>there's a reflection of the skull facing the life orb
whoah
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>>171685216
I have used PoEHud every league. Still not banned.
I never even got the warning back when GGG bragged about blowing cash on some shitty anti-cheat system that didn't stop anything.
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>>171685439
Yeah just pick a pathing as generic as possible and adapt depending on the gear you find, 2h melee for example can stay on generic 2h melee clusters for basically 90 levels if necessary, Slayer is generic 2h weapon bonuses and so on
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>>171685439
you pick a skill or sometimes a unique that you want to build around.
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>>171685216
Were you banned for it? If not, why are there so many butthurt posts about this on /poeg/?
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>>171685652
People are butthurt because they didn't know about it and didn't get to exploit
Otherwise you'd see a shitton of pictures of smug frogs or anime grills
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>>171685652
because our waifu got banned you piece of shit
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>>171685439
Once you are more experienced with the game you will build around a specific set of gems and uniques and know the general power level just by thinking about it.

I suggest you install and experiment with Path of Building. It makes planning builds very easy for new players as you can import gear and different gem setups and compare your damage and defenses at the flick of a button.
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Our guy steyox b&
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>>171685652
No, I don't use cheats or exploits of any sort, but I'd like to see some consistency on this, ban players for breaking a rule, sure, but then you need to ban blatant cheaters who STREAM their rule breaking with no consequence whatsoever. Why the double standard?
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>>171685439
If melee based make a generic life attack build that gets all the life, one AoE cluster, and passes by the Duelist/Marauder damage rings.

If caster based make a generic elementalist. It'll do enough damage no matter what you use, but can't go wrong with Pizza Totems. Dual Wield random Cast Speed wands and you win.
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>>171685871
If she cheats on a video game what's to keep her from cheating on you little cucklette?
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steyox was never EVER our guy
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>>171685439
For normal leagues I plan around a certain skill using certain uniques to gain the most power possible.

In SSF, I'd probably just go a generic caster to farm loot until I have a pool of items to work with.
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>>171686147
word
he was always reddit's guy
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>>171685906
Wasn't a streamer recently banned for using a gem switch macro on stream?
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>>171686007
there is literally nothing wrong with being a cuck
cuckoldry is the intellectual man's fetish
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>>171686007
get the FUCK out of our thread
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>>171686227
yes, some Russian fag
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>>171686327
>>171686361

>discord users
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sorry guys....
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it's ok anon ^_^
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Uhhhh...... Jake?
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>>171685871
Who?
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>>171686971
some fat neet with a girl voice
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Why don't people have backup flasks for situational map mods, everyone runs the same generic qs/silver/basalt and never swaps flasks, seems like a waste especially for CI builds that can afford to use 5 utility flasks

I always have at least a flask swap depending on the map mod and boss
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>>171686971
get out.
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you are the only one that rolls situational flasks
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>>171685894
>our guy
nys osaifh
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>>171687175
because people just overcap resists and run OP flasks that are too good to give up
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esk was one of the few good things that ever happened to me in poe

and now i have no one
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feel free to kill yourself
i kind of wish all tranny posters would
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>>171685925
>attack build getting the templar aoe cluster
>patch 2.6
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you just gotta have faith that there are cute girls in this thread that have the good sense to not attention whore
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>>171687175
I remember when Storm Heralds were scary as fuck and I brought a Topaz with me everywhere.

Then they made Basalt which was a pocket Lightning Coil. Stibnite which is hilariously powerful. Fortify exists now. And now there's Unique Flasks which are very strong.

Not enough room for flasks. There's too many good/op ones.
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my soul...

that is what YOU, HAVE TAKEN, FROM ME!!!
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if you arent into traps exclusively you may as well just leave the guild since there is no room for you
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You mean traps as in the skill? Or men who dress as females cus that would be gay lol....
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>playing with others
Hello R*ddit
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>>171687159
Excuse me newfriend but Hans was the one with girly voice.
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>poeg hates traps now
What went wrong?
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>>171683597 #
Raiz played a mom life build and got one shot by a volitile ess. Then he played ci and got chain stunned.

Steelmage was ci but he had a lucky lucky boots exchant.

So I honestly don't know what ssf obtainable defensive core raiz builds that will stop him from dying with his playstyle.

CI and RT are on opposite sides of the tree.
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It's only ethical to never reply to anyone here
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>>171687582
>a first time hc ssf character

You go that direction in for easy Int. Can't buy a 50 Int, High Life, Tri Res helmet in SSF.
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everyone shut the fuck up you're all retarded
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>>171688602
/r/iamverysmart
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>>171688407
>ssf obtainable defensive core
Juggernaut, Gladiators and to an extent Pathfinder/Raiders are all classes that can be built extremely tanky in a SSF context. There is also no excuse for not having a flask of grounding somewhere, almost as idiotic as not having a staunching flask in hardcore.

His build had
10k+ ES
maximized temp chains blasphemy
extremely strong ES regen
Occultist's Wicked Ward

It would have been extremely hard to kill if he just remembered to roll his flasks properly.
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Can't "she" just make a new account? You only need like $40 worth of stash tabs.
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poe community is so cucked

>economic exploit reported day 1 to GGG
>not fixed for 14 days
>tons of people make tons of currency
>stealth fix it
>someone knows and alerts community to the exploit being abused without GGG coming clean
>GGG does massive cleanup, banning, etc and then says "omg how dare you tell the community that an exploit existed!"

How do people not realize that GGG was the fucked up party in all of this? Hiding exploits, stealth fixing, not telling anyone, and then doing a massive cleanup operation and getting mad at a customer for publicly coming out that the problem existed.
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>>171688908
the game is not playable unless you buy the full version, which is like $220

who would even consider playing this game without maxing your supporter pack?
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>>171688850
What were his suffixes anyway?

I know he had iron skin which is required because otherwise he has no phys mitigation, and that he had adrenaline which is required to push ladder. Also heat which is required. Staunching also required.

What was the last one?
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>mfw I play the game with the default amount of stash tabs
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>>171688972
you think this is the first time this happens?

theyve been caught colluding with RMT sites
GGG employes have been caught using using insider knowledge to benefit their friends' guild in-game
etc

this is nothing
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Redditors are sheeple. what else is new
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>>171689264
Diablo 2 also had an inside colluding with RMT to keep a backdoor duping method in the game. 99% of private servers for mmos are RMT associated, most of the time with the same people running the servers also running RMT sites.

I'm not surprised. I'm saying why the fuck does the community buy that GGG is the victim?
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>>171688972
>50 people
>tons of people
Those people were able to make tons of currency precisely because only a select few knew about the exploit. Once the cat was out of the bag, there would have been no meaning in keeping exploiting it. Are you retarded?

As for "stealth fixing" you could argue either way they should have mentioned the bug fix in patch notes, but not exactly hard to imagine why they didn't considering how kneejerky reddit can be, as proved time and time again and yesterday
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>>171689264
Ive heard this insider info rumour so many times before could you tell us more, please
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>>171689131
I'm actually going to look this up.

His stibnite flask was of warding. So he values curse immunity over shock immunity.

Idk I've never felt like i needed a warding flask.
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>>171688972
GGG also casually forgot to mention the Scold's was killed after hyping it up as a fun easily obtainable Legacy item obtainable in Legacy League.
And GGG casually forgot to mention that Energy From Within is now a T2/T1 rarity unique.

Retards everywhere.
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>get vault because want to run for the cards
>end up getting cards and... a lot more
best decision ever
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>>171688972

they literally did nothing wrong
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>>171689583
kneejerk?

Are you retarded?

they didn't mention it because it makes them look bad, dumbfuck.

there is no altruism involved.
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>>171689625
http://massivelyop.com/2015/08/24/not-so-massively-path-of-exiles-crafting-scandal-sins-of-a-dark-ages-sunset/

"coincidentally", the guild that got rich quickly using this "unknown feature" was one which a GGG dev was a member of
the same dev who once posted and quickly deleted (on lebbit) info about said feature
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>>171689131
Iron Skin is certainly not as mandatory as of grounding, basalt covers physical mitigation for CI builds, in the 1 out of 1000 times you actually get hit by attacks when you're running a maximized Temp Chains Blasphemy which is as close as easy mode as you get.

He ran
Stibnite of warding
Basalt of staunching
Granite of iron skin (why?)
Silver of heat
Qs of adrenaline

Either adrenaline or iron skin are highly questionable in hc when you're pressured for flask suffixes, especially since you're plenty fast with Onslaught + base qs and Alchemist.
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>>171689970
And now reddit has done a full 180 and are calling themselves idiots. So yeah, pretty much the definition of kneejerking, retard.
>they didn't mention it because it makes them look bad, dumbfuck.
Here's the door if you're unhappy, your options include Overwatch and vanilla WoW.
#fuckGGG #wakeupsheeple
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>>171690010
Why is warding so important?
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>>171689186
it's the only ethical way to play
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>>171690158
Such great arguments

I'm simply stating the obvious about how and why GGG acted in secret and once it was public went into damage control mode with bans and propaganda.

>hurr this huge economic exploit fix is just not in any patch notes or publically disclosed because of how we handle bug fixes and totally not in order to hide an enormous technical failure
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GGG fucked up but banning exploiters was the right choice.

Not banning exploiters sets a horrible president.
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What is this exploit I keep hearing about?
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Before fix it makes sense not to tell people.

After fix it only makes sense in order to cover your ass and not have to acknowledge error.


There is no one being protected aside from GGG by releasing info about it once it is fixed.

The fact the bans happened after someone whistleblew should say everything.
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>>171690457

some people found out that any currency gains you gain while mapping, can, on average, be doubled if you double your grind
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>>171690457
you could exploit leaguestones to not use charges.

2 weeks after being reported they fixed it secretly

someone went public and said the exploit existed, so GGG went full damage control and banned the exploiters and then said "going public with it is far worse than the exploit itself"

Because their POV is their own interests, in which case people not knowing about the exploit ever existing helps them. They wouldnt have had to ban anyone and no one would have known.
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>>171690457
There was a method to use leaguestones without consuming charges, which meant you could have unlimited chayula breaches with +splinter drops etc.
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>>171690728
basically with enough logic anyone not moronic would see GGG expected collusion from the exploiters to keep everything a secret.

No bans, no one knows, and fix is secret.

Once someone went public they then banned everyone who had been exploiting for weeks in damage control mode.
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>reddit being pathologically sycophantic and sucking up to devs is a surprise

really?
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>>171690406
What are YOUR arguments, retard?

>I'm simply stating the obvious about how and why GGG acted in secret
And no one argued otherwise; whatever their reasons may be, it's certainly not a clear cut whether it's worth going publicly about it and having to suffering a horde of retarded reddits going apeshit with extrapolation about economic damage and overblown anecdotal evidence. People can't handle the truth. Case in point: reddit and (You)

>propaganda
Stop using buzzwords you don't understand, makes you lose all credibility.
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>>171690891
Yeah GGG fucked up.

But once it was public would not have banning the exploiters been a better choice you think?
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>>171690543
>The fact the bans happened after someone whistleblew should say everything.
Yeah it says those people were already in the process of getting screened and banned and the heroic "whistleblowing" happened AFTER the patch once the cheaters realized their time was up. Such conspiracy.
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>>171690970
The argument is very simple

GGG transaction:
Keep your accounts and everything. Don't say anything about the exploit.

Exploiter Transaction:
Keep all the wealth accrued with the exploit.

That was the implicit but not spoken of deal.

When someone went public with the exploit. GGG then banned the people who had been using it.

This is the only logical case. If GGG was going to ban them anyway they would have nothing stopping them from talking about the exploit.

GGG simply wanted it all covered up and no one knowing. Exploiters wanted to keep the items.

The whistleblower blew up the deal and forced GGG to go public and then ban.
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>>171690814
>>171690728
How did the exploit work?
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>>171690258
Silence will screw casters. Warding is mandatory. On CI builds it is strong to have since Silence disables Vaal Discipline, which is less op now yet still strong.

However on attack builds the only scary situation I can think of is a Necromancer hitting you with one of the elemental curses. Still better to have Warding over Iron Skin in that situation.
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>>171691064
They had to ban as a form of damage control. If no one whistleblew, no ban.

>>171691138
lol if you believe this. The bans are a direct reaction to public scrutiny.


business wise, which is all GGG cares about, keeping it all a secret and keeping full faith in the economy is more important to GGG than banned exploiters.
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>>171690408
>sets a horrible president.
Ameriburger education, everyone
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>>171691178
Wait when did this turn into a conspiracy?

Is this a new level of autism? This thread needs to be academically researched.

>>171691296
IIRC by triggering the map device and immediately using the waypoint out.
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>>171691178
And your evidence for this tin foil hat conjecture is...? If I wanted to listen to a rambling retard shitting on GGG just for attention and views, I'd tune in PT's stream. Oh wait.

You actually think GGG is public about the accounts they ban on a weekly basis? LOL you naive fucking retard. Transparency does not entail they give you a detailed briefing of how many of your cunt cheating friends they catch every month.
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>>171689979
Thats just lots of bullshit and no actual evidence.

>The currency items required to test this theory were expensive enough that everyone just took the game's top crafters' words on it that it didn't work. This and other secrets allowed top crafters to produce great items cheaply and sell them on for a substantial profit.

I cant imagine people not testing it and just taking "top crafters" words on it.
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Keep in mind I'm just saying. GGG obviously and without a doubt attempted to simply cover things up.

I'm not saying this is enough to kill POE or why you shouldn't play anymore. Just that GGG did attempt to cover up the exploit instead of just conveying to community "blah blah leaguestone charges bug fix"

Instead they attempted to stealth fix and never communicate while hoping it didn't get out.

Once it was out they then go public as a form of damage control, not of some altruistic transparency.

You can very easily see GGG acting in nothing but self interest while attempting to deceive community to avoid owning up to a bug. Sort of like how they claimed for years that desynch is an inherent property of online play.
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>>171691515
false equivalency

You bring up a different point, banned bots, and apply it to a direct fault in the technical side of the game that was reported day 1. GGG covering up their own faulty coding that is exploited by community and then covered up is not the same as communicating about bot bannings.
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>check everyday for price of [item]
>always at 1 ex or above
>today see one listed at 60c from 18 hours ago and two more at 60c from 20 minutes ago
price fixing is scary
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>>171691654
This thread is approaching a singularity.
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>GGG hears about possible exploit
>tests in in their personal 0 ping test server
>no exploit found
>easily reproducible on live servers

>GGG hears about multithreading crashes
>tests in in their personal 0 ping test server
>no crashes found
>multithreading still crashes on live servers

Someone at GGG needs to get fired over this shit.
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>>171691654
>Sort of like how they claimed for years that desynch is an inherent property of online play.
They literally never said this

They said multiple times that they COULD fix desync, but it wouldn't be as profitable as making new content.
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>>171691587

feel free to keep beleiving GGG cant do anything wrong
if you dig more youll find the reddit threads on the issue, and even those about the GGG dev's posts
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Let's compare:

Example patch note for exploit:
Fixed an error in leaguestone instances that would stop a charge from being used and allow for massive amounts of currency accumulation

vs


Fixed an issue where the Purple Arc Effect did not work on Vaal Arc.
Fixed an issue where PvP loading screens showed 6 vs 6 matches for 3 vs 3 events.
Fixed an issue with the Character Sheet display with Area of Effect still including "Radius".
Fixed an issue where Prophecies with side areas would fail to spawn in areas with forced Stone Circles.
Fixed another client crash that could previously have been avoided by turning off multithreading. If you disabled multithreading, it can now be enabled again.
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>>171691654
>altruistic transparency
Literally no one tried to imply that. Are you arguing with your imaginary friends again? Take your autism pills, Timmy. Winning an argument in which you're providing imaginary points of view on both sides is pointlessly retarded.
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Why ar epeople obsessed with Shaping Strand?
Is it the Dried Lake of maps?
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>>171691992
>feel free to keep beleiving GGG cant do anything wrong
Yes, because not believing every autistic conspiracy post on /poeg/ is sycophancy.
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>>171691964
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/710359

>Why desync has to exist and why rubber-banding is good
>It's not going to be easy explaining that the increased rate of rubber-banding is not only good, but also the ideal solution.

are you fucking braindead? They shoved it down everyone's throats for years that desynch was just something that had to exist.
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>>171691826
What's the fundamental difference? Why don't they come out every week and say "We banned X people. Our game is still bottable and full of exploitable holes. We're very sorry." Would that be the kind of attitude you wish to see instead? If anything, that's precisely the kind of fuck up they need to deal with internally. The knowledge of such things happening in the background is of no value to the average player.
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>>171692331
there is no conspiracy

GGG hid an exploit
someone whistleblew
GGG damage controls

these are facts
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The SQL tables that keep the forum data could have easily been hacked..just saying
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>>171691932
even after the countless patches its still a mess
game crashes when I exit or altf4, I have to exit to login for it to not freeze or something
I still play hardcore becuase I'm retarded
I tried every single combinations of settings and they all crash in different ways
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>>171692479
>someone whistleblew
We should make a film about the Snowden of PoE
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>>171691806
*princess
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>>171691587
This was before Ascendancy. The end game was T10 maps, and maybe you'll hope to do a T15 on day. Exalts had potential value on both Softcore and Hardcore, but were rarely used as is was easier to cheese Uber Atziri, the only challenge, than gear a GG character for it. A lot of testing happened early, but people quickly got pissed at GGG for removing Hybrid Master Crafting and considered Master Crafting useful, but not the greatest thing ever.

Come a year later when more players test the cannot be changed mod+scour orb combo, GGG dev's were retarded and thought players were using the combo since day 1 and was wondering what all the hype was about.

iirc, They dev's comment was "This is news? I thought you all were hyped over masters since day one because of this combo."
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>>171692225
Easy and two bosses that aren't dangerous, good pack size

Easy to sustain, easy to shape
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>>171691806
it's probaby not permanent right?

weird GGG would ban potential 3.0 customers over a filler league exploit
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>>171692802
I'm under the impression you can just make a new account

Temp bans should be limited to social harm type of shit, exploiting should be permabanned
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>>171692802
with the console release their potential customer pool is gonna grow by at least 100-200 xbox1 owners. so there are more whales where that one came from
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>>171693105
I'm expecting 300 xbone players
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USE THE KEYS ETUP REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171691316
Caustic arrow isn't a fucking spell.

Grounding flask seems like it would prevent much more deaths than warding. Especially since shocks last forever on ci builds.
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>>171692706
>iirc, They dev's comment was "This is news? I thought you all were hyped over masters since day one because of this combo."
Either you have short memory of intentionally misinforming, the actual quote was more along the lines of

"This has always been a possibility. There is nothing wrong with a handful of players knowing about a recipe or crafting method and using it to their advantage."

For the longest time, GGG never acknowledged any implicit currency recipe or whether they were all discovered. Their philosophy had always been that if someone knew about say, the gcp recipe, before anyone else, they should be rewarded for their knowledge.

Actual GGG stance: pic related.
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>>171693105
I wonder if they'll get an easier version of the game.
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>>171693198
It's probably just that curses are more visible deaths than shocks
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They should do a PVP focused expansion for xbone users. really milk that value and hold MLG tournaments.


then some faggot will cry about how they can't waste any dev time over trade in poeg
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>>171691992
I did not say that, i know they've done some shady things in the past. I'm just saying the link you provided gave no evidence just some random bullshit. What does reddit threads provide to this?
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>>171693329
They should keep pvp a retarded mess because that's what it will always be
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>>171693335
That's how catposter and other conspiracy shitposters proceed, they spout some vague nonsense then point you out to reddit threads for "evidence", nevermind that reddit is prone to making full U-turns on their own stance, case in point yesterday and today
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GGG loves their kneejerk reactions to the community.

>curses op for the longest time now
>Ghudda stacks curse effectiveness to the point where nothing moves anymore
>overnight ggg changes quality bonus on every curse and gives bosses curse resistance

>poehud exists for over a year now
>becomes widespread on the forums/reddit due to it's quality of life perks
>GGG has a panic attack everytime someone mentions the phrase quality of life
>they pay big bucks for a one time anti-cheat patch that gets worked around in a weak
>add in a fucking clock and a shitty exp/h tracker
>reddit shuts up and ggg and never bothers with another anti-cheat patch again

Any other historic GGG is fucking retarded moments?
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>>171693328
That's exactly it though. Curses are super visible so you can play around them. Shocks will sneak up on you.

So if you're spamming flasks all the time you want to remove shocks.
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>>171693671
>thing is broken
>GGG fixes it
>this is somehow a bad thing
based retard
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Traps vs mines. Why do I see all the builds coming out with mines despite the fact that traps are safer and deal more damage per throw? I get that you have to wait for recovery but unless you throw them all at once where a boss or box is spawning thats never an issue.
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>>171693671
>ascendancy
>labyrinth
>xbox
>premium tabs
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>>171693545
>>171693335

what kind of evidence do you want exactly?

what kind of evidence would validate such theories without doubt? pretty much only a GGG employee coming out on record and saying that.

you do realize that asking for anything but circumstantial evidence of these things is being purposefully dense to avoid the issue?

these are all small wrongdoings to their community, not crimes, its their game they can legally do whatever they want.
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>>171688407
>>171688850
>>171689131
>>171690010
>>171690258
>>171691316
>>171693198
Raiz died because the fucking Esh rares stacked lightning orbs on the stairs where they were invisible.

Saying 'oh he wouldn't've died if he was just immune to shock' is pretty silly. The main cause of this death was because the game didn't tell him he was going to be taking any damage.

Also, immunity to curses is fucking good, don't be retarded.
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>>171693865
depends on the skill
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>>171691932
never forget
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>>171693947
Even if chris gave the info to his guild It just sounds fucking retarded that nobody tried that scour even if it cost exalts out of all these people and "trusting" some random "top crafters".
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>>171693998
Blade fall, they drop on the mine now but are aimed at the mobs so only the corner of the circle touches the mine.
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>>171693792
They wait until the community is at a uproar until anything is fixed. Long standing problems that had existed for over a year get suddenly pushed to live the instant a streamer does something problematic involving it.
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>>171693947
When in the presence of a lack of evidence, one's rational course of action would be to use common sense and believe what is statistically or logically the most plausible. Not go on a wild conspiracy ride like a tin foil hat wearing retard would. I don't have hard evidence the government is not altering my tap water, but I also have no reason to believe they do.
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for the anima stone, if you use 6 primordial gems , does this mean you can use +3 golems?
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>>171694083
but now that i think of it i do remember some threads were they were surprised about people not using it.
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>>171693947
Burden of proof. You can make whatever kind of conclusions you want from whatever you want, but expecting people to believe you without actual evidence and getting aggressive/dismissive when they don't is pretty typical conspiracy theorist behaviour, which makes it even easier to dismiss your retarded posts.
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>>171694185
No one was in an uproar about TC not being effectiveness capped and the problem wasn't evident until ghudda showed it could. You're literally getting mad someone points out a problem, that is it swiftly fixed, all because you had no prior knowledge said problem existed. What?
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>>171692350
Not what you said in your original post you mongoloid
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>>171694203
after all they fuckery they've pulled and the shady SHADY beyond rmt shitstorm, the logically plausible hypotesis is that they are in fact crooks

but like i said, those are minor wrong doings, not RL crimes. no one is gonna mount an investigation to dig out the truth
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>>171693978
If he had shock immunity, he might have survived long enough to log out.
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how the fug do i get survivability as summoner with umbilical immortalis?

i have 11k ES and no fucking leech nigga what the fuck do i do
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first you do not use "nigga"
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fuck off nigger
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>>171694623
How is it living in your own bubble where your logic and hypotheses make no sense to anyone else?
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>>171694637
Head over to the regen added to es instead thing and then viola you have regen at all times. 10% would give you 1100 per second.
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>>171694512
>Ghudda was the only guy who realized how good TC was!
ebin
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>>171694789

i have about 2.5k es regen
it's just like, if i get hit once I have to run away and wait for my shield to regen
it's annoying as shit
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>>171694470
i dont care if you believe me. but after certain point you will have to be doing your own set of mental gymnastics and intellectual presdigitation to dismiss every little bit of circumstantial evidence over the years as bs

>>171694761
how is it living in your own bubble when only the lack of hard evidence of the contrary is what keeps you thinking GGG can do no wrong, despite all signs of the contrary?
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in general i oppose banning people for exploiting game bugs
but the banned parties are scum so suffer
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>>171694891
So why mention him in particular at all? You're the one who mentioned him stacking curse effectiveness to the point where it would become gamebreaking, something he was the first to do or at least go public about. You're arguing against your own flawed logic, moron.
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>>171694978
I'm not living in a bubble though, you are. Your opinions are that of a minority and not supported by anything but vague made-up evidence. You're a little kid throwing a tantrum for the world not agreeing dragons and unicorns exist because you believe they do.
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>>171695060
I'm not the man you were arguing with but he showed it to the rest of the dumb niggers who somehow didn't already know about it.
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>>171694634
He also wouldn't have been chain stunned if he wasn't shocked.
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>>171693978
>Invisible
You can literally see the orb in the video???
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>>171695201
the fact that people in your side of the greater issue are trying to dismiss the current situation on the banned people / GGG trying to blame the community; as a "conspiracy theory" when everything about it has been extremely transparent and obvious, pretty much makes me confident enough that you are indeed, living in a bubble
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>>171695353
Which prompted GGG to fix it. Where is the issue? You acted as if it was a well-known issue existing for years and it took ghudda to use his streamer cred to pressure GGG to change it, which is contradicted in the next post. Also ghudda's build had no practical value except being a support bitch, used Enhance and Dying Breath. The cap to curse effectiveness was added to patch literally a very niche and not commonly abusable mechanic.
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>>171694910
Recharge =/= Regen. Regen isn't delayed, recharge is. If you have to run back all the time with 2.5k regen then you are garbage my man.
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>>171694978
>mental gymnastics
Your mind must be an interesting place. You are taking fuckups and a case of _players_ discovering unexplained, intended game mechanics and abusing said knowledge for profit, and then attributing this all to developer.. malice? greed? Actually even after needlessly abusing my brain by reading this thread I have no idea, what are the shady shady devs actually trying to achieve here?

You should look into occam's razor, friend.
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>>171695025
Exploiters getting away with it makes the non exploiters feel like suckers.

And like we are desu, I'll never have as much currency as someone who bots or scams or rmts.

So seeing #1 lsc ladder get btfoed makes me feel slightly better about life.
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>>171695474
This isn't a matter of subjectivity. If you hold your own biased views and no one else agrees with you, you're the one living in a bubble. It doesn't matter whether you're right or not, to the outside world you still look like an autistic child sperging out the world doesn't understand him.
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bugs in the game are ggg's fault
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>>171695435
it's invisible to the untrained eye in real time
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>>171692706
Quote was a bit off, but you remembered the thought behind the message.

>>171693248
Chris legitimately thought the community was using meta mod master crafting to its fullest potential from the start since Master's released.
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friendly reminder that you have the privilege of using our product you fucking serf
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>>171695741
Oh it's 2 different things.. I guess I have 700 regen
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>>171695850
I don't agree with you and your biased views.
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reminder that anything that decreased the rarity of a good would eventually decrease its price and everyone would become richer as a result
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>>171696025
Chris being misinformed about the meta is whole different story than GGG trying to cover up a crafting method that was possible from the start just to help a select few top trading autists. They explicitly and transparently say they don't hand everyone a crafting book or tutorial of how to play the game or get rich. If you didn't know about a super secret crafting method, then too bad for you, not GGG's fault.
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>>171696116
That's too bad, because I share the view of most rational people. It's going to take a little more than shitflinging and conspiracy rhetoric to change my mind. Good job on wasting everyone's time with your shitposting though
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>>171696501
idk what point you're trying to make anymore. You're not elaborating on it, and are constantly going off topic to make ad-hominem attacks. If that's not the sign of someone living in their own bubble, who can't properly have a discussion, then I don't know what is.
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etup is going to use 144 keys soon its gunna be gud
good for him but people selling are just dumb
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>>171696632
what's his twitch url name
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good for him how
unless he rmts he's just going to go play another game right
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>>171695749
If we are only talking about the crafting thing, a dev posting, then deleting stuff from reddit, was understood as he simply backtracking on an incorrect statement. While his intention -he claims- was simply to not get involved on that convo. This coupled with the spectacular amount of currency his friends made-ingame later with that knowledge is what was fishy.

>>171695850
Being on a bubble means you are threading on a local narrative that is self-enforced by your environment, which includes other people and media which all hold the same views and values as you do.

Also, you jump to dismiss circumstantial evidence because you misunderstand what it is.

Circumstantial doesnt mean "made up"; it means that it just doesn't prove something beyond doubt, hence why its not admissible on courts of law.
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>>171696629
The rational belief to adopt is that GGG is not some cartoonish Disney corrupt organization working behind the scenes in an elaborate RMT scheme to make money. You have done nothing to disprove this. I attacked the substance of your argument and called you a retard on top of it, that's not ad hominem you imbecile. It's simply proving you wrong, with insults on top for emphasis, bitch.
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>LL RF
>fuck up and accidentally have my RF burn through my entire ES and life pool
>ES regenerates
>life doesnt because I have ZO
>cant cast RF now
What do
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>>171696935
Get Life Gain on Kill on something. Go smack a bitch.
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etup about to open 144 keys sheeeit
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>>171696935
portal you tardo
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>>171696935
Just portal you complete RETARD
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>>171696881
You're the one making the claim, the burden of proof is on you. How do you not understand this? Okay, I'll bite a little. Sure, they could plausibly do it, although it would put their entire company at risk - you've researched the NZ laws around if they were to, right? Because that's what they would face. It would also be very difficult for them to hide this from the rest of their staff.

I wasn't the previous poster you were discussing this with, you're getting too caught up in trying to prove yourself right that you're making assumptions. So get your fucking shit together and figure out more stuff before you want people to believe your claims.

Fucking retard.
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>>171696759
So now holding a common opinion resulting of common sense is "living in a bubble"? You can't put a spin on words to change their meaning. People who believe the Earth isn't flat are living in a bubble?

>Circumstantial doesnt mean "made up";
It holds just as much weight as made up evidence, since it's not grounded in logic or facts but interpretation.
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>>171697101
>>171697150
>portal out XD
So you guys never reached maps?
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so what is eskprodigy1 gonna call their new PoE account?
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>>171697402
Nigga what? Do you need all 6 of your portals to clear a map? Talk about being inefficient.
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>>171697285
I'm not making any facetious claims. Either you can't read or are on drugs, but that spectacular display of austim was wasted on that post.
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>>171697402
do you die 5 times per map you absolute shitter
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>>171697402
>average /poeg/ shitter
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>>171696759
>his friends
Is there actually any evidence for this? Because that's quite an assumption to make without any. I don't even really understand what motivation the devs would have to collude with the players on this. Could someone explain?
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>tfw built Beast Fur Shawl RF from scratch and it works
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why didn't ggg put anything in the key room
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>>171697676
>Is there actually any evidence for this?
Circumstantial and made-up which is as good as the Truth when you're catposter.
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>>171697750
They should have made the chest spawn a random boss when you open it.
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>>171697336
im not putting a spin on it. you are claiming "living in a bubble" is an euphemism for isolationist viewpoints, devoid of any link to reality.

im telling that the term is not used like that, but to imply that people "living on a bubble" basically live on an alt-reality hermetic to plurality of opinions and worldviews and cant accept the world is anything but what they and their friends and favorite media agreed it is.

>>171697336
>It holds just as much weight as made up evidence, since it's not grounded in logic or facts but interpretation.

Its grounded in as much logic and facts as hard evidence, BUT also depends on interpretation. That is the difference. Real investigative reporters get to the hard evidence by first stringing as much circumstantial evidence as they can find and trying to find something that doesnt need interpretation to point out to a fact.
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>>171697405
eskprodigy11211
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>>171697676
Much like yesterday a whistleblower came clean on it, during those days also came clean about the crafting thing, and he was known to be guildies with the dev.

Now you can claim that account was phony, or impersonating someone, etc. But that is the kind of circumstantial evidence you get on these things.

>>171697782
not my fault you dont know what circumstantial evidence is, shill
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>>171697890
Holding common worldviews is not living in a bubble, otherwise 95% of the educated world is just one big bubble, and the term loses all meaning. It is only natural to believe in things that are supported by common sense and education, until something substantial challenges that worldview. Circumstantial evidence does nothing in that regard. If you believe the Earth isn't flat in accordance to scientific agreement, there is no reason to believe it is because someone shows you a picture of Florida.

Circumstantial evidence is an euphemism for a sack of bullcrap here. You have as much credibility as a shaman predicting the future from chicken bones. When your bias takes precedence over your common sense, that's where you start seeing patterns and signs linking unrelated things and become a conspiracy retard.
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is abaxoth a skelleton or a fleshthingamajig?
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>>171697479
Trolld I meant the other guy.
Haha, made you waste effort on a post.
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>>171698171
reminder whistleblowers are scumbags and Snowden will be executed
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making top tier foils super rare doesn't protect the value of legacy items
it just makes foil versions more desirable
not that anyone should care about rmtcore, but i guess that's where ggg's whales are
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You can't tell who's arguing over what in this post because all these fucktards are getting stuck up on what comments in each other's arguments mean.

Asperger fucks.
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>Circumstantial evidence is factual
the extent of catposter's intelligence, everyone
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>>171698171
>and he was known to be guildies with the dev.
Can you provide a link to the reddit thread? Googling didn't help -- I do remember reading it back then but remember no mention of a dev in a guild or such.
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>>171698490
Scientific method precludes "bubble" analogies on those subjects, because it is a very well structured process that accounts for a plurality of possibilities. You can, however, find plently of "bubbles" on the fringes of political factions, or in this case, on the people who is blind and deaf to all possibilities about GGG being capable of wrongdoing.

>Bias

I've like 4k hours in PoE played. I have no vested interest to think GGG is scum. Its just what i've slowly come to believe after seeing a bunch of shit happen.
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>>171698957
correlation is not causation

there has been multiple guilds with GGG members with them, what does that prove
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>>171698857
>actually reading this trash
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3,8k hours idling is not playing the game you mongoloid.
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should i just delete this?
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>>171699020
That's not what kind of "bubble" you're referring to, stop changing the topic. The people disagreeing with conspiracy retards do not necessarily the same subset that believes GGG is "incapable of wrongdoing," simply that when they fuck up it is unintentional and most of the time acknowledged as a mistake. Those are the people living in a bubble since their stubborn conspiracy theories are held by nothing but strings of denial and delusion and they refuse to actually look for any evidence to support their claims.

>I've like 4k hours in PoE played.
That has no relevance whatsoever.
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>I've played more than most therefore my opinions are right and factual
>I've lived longer than most therefore the Earth is flat because I believe it and I'm old
lol
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remember when fags from irc channels would coordinate to derail and shit up threads
only now they use discord
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>>171699389
you can't do a t11?
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remember when you thought esk could do no wrong and turned up to be an immoral cheater
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>2 voidhearts
>1 eternal orb
>1 item quantity gem
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i suddenly don't feel so bad about finding zero keys all league
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>>171699389
You dont have to do the boss, its better then just deleting it.
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>>171700356
that boss isn't hard when you know how it works, even when twinned.
>>171699389
that's a solid map, about as good as you can expect from a corruption. If anything it's TOO easy since the quant is low and there's no packsize, but extra bloodline packs is pretty good.
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>>171699389
just facetank it lmao
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>legacy doesnt su-
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>>171701293
>it's a the relic is a worse version than what drops right now episode
t-thanks ggg
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Kind of new to PoE as a whole, im on my first character right now, and I sit at around 5k health at level 87. I got the acrobatica and phase acro talent. Would you say this healthpool is sufficient? I've pretty much eaten all the health nodes around me.
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legacy is fine but the reliquaries are shit tier
40 items weighed heavily toward shit
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2 VOIDHEARTS

1 ETERNAL ORB

1 ITEM QUANTITY GEM

1 LIGHTNING COIL

1 VAAL JEWEL

144 KEYS
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HEY GUYS NEED A CYBIL'S PAW
YOU WANT TO PLAY INCINERATE RIGHT MY DUDE
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>>171701714
>around you
Ive seen a witch go down to duelist for heath nodes through the templar/maurader route.
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nah, legacy as a league sucks dick
the keys just make everything worse
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>not having animated skeletons clawing at you
Its the little things
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I was tired as fuck when I slapped this together. Please r8 what I'm sure is a shitty build.
www.poeurl.com/bcH2
>focus is on blocking and ES
>going to use reckoning, tempest shield, and riposte
>primary attack will be vigilant strike
>tack on herald of thunder and wrath when I have the slots and can spare the mana
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hey chris make a boss fight for these chests and fix your drop table
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the worst part is they definitely tweaked something after day 1
I heard streamers say it, myself I found 2 keys while leveling in the first hours of the league.
since then nothing, the keys didnt drop shit anyway
alkaizer for example got taste of hate AND voidheart from 2 fucking keys in the first and second day
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>>171703018
It's gotta be true, the first guy to enter the reliquary did it at 68
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Legacy is fucking awful. Essence-tier trash
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why are there even multiple portals to the chest room
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Why cant we have a force pvp league. Every once in a while you spawn in an instance with someone else in it and you get to do whatever. Leave if you want. Kill them if you want.
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>>171683986
idiot
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in case too much loot drops
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MATTmk which one of you is this?
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>>171702082
>I am new
That's why I am asking friendo. What would you say is a sufficient healthpool as a lifebuild character with acro and phase? I can still increase my health with around 180~ from gear alone, so I guess i'll end up on around 5.2k at that point.
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>>171704331
You should get 200% increased from the tree giving you 300%, then slowly increase with better gear. You could have 4k and have 200% from the tree and be fine because you just need better gear, gear is easy to get just grind. But 5.2k tells me nothing just your current which will get better with gear so... I dont know if youre good on health or not.
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>>171704095
biggest autist in etups chat
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>>171701978
>why don't I have a 50/50 chance for a legacy Kaom's/ToH
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>>171705357
hey chris
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We've got some new music and showcases for the act 5 areas.

I can't wait for the five trillion KANGS comments on poeg once the beta drops and we help the Karui stop slavery.
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How well does Endurance Charge on Melee stun works with Shield Charge?

Thinking about Linking it with Fortify and that, is it what people usually do? I stun a lot with it and I'm "Melee" anyway.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHHeEL5QEpw
GGG should double their music composer salary, that guy is doing work
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>>171705487
>xhe thinks anyone with a modicum of self respect will play Path of Xbone
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>>171705487
oooh those evil facist orlathans
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>>171705586
its all generic fantasy mmo music
way what you want about blizz, but di/dii had strong music motifs you could instantly recognize as belonging to those games
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>>171705852
why are they stealing trash dove from /pol/
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why would you stop enslaving genocidal barbarians that destroyed civilization and prevent human immortality
unless it was to say that their descendants had paid enough and to exterminate them
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>>171705890
>di/dii
back then people actually waited for blizzard games and weren't disappointed
the talent either left, or was dissolved by design committees
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>>171705890
generic criticism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlT19fMddjc
if you don't get goosebumpbs while listening to this, you're a faglord
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I'm only interested in helping the slave revolt if I can make Lani my personal brown sex slave
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>tfw 16gb of ram isn't enough to run this game with paging turned off

I'm not even running it on ultrawide or 4k...

Hell I'm not even running it on max settings...
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>>171706375
ACT
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>>171706375
I got 8gb and it runs just fine maxed out
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>>171706375
not be a dyke
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>>171706143

Highgate's theme is my favorite.

But I'm a sucker for women chanting/vocalizing in video game music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UENb3lLSQho

This is why I came when I first heart this.
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>>171684163
>leveling all the way to 100 and still only 26

truly these challenges are fucking BULLSHIT
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>>171706375
>paging turned off

why anon
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>>171706942
Kinda hard to complete challenges when all you do is strand 24/7.
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it literally does not matter what maps you're doing
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maps are only tileset deep!!!
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Judging by the new logo and Lani's red x on her face, I am guessing the slave rebellion is going to have a red x as their emblem.

Interestingly, the big bad at the top of the Pantheon image has a big red fleshy cross as the only facial feature.
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exterminate the karui before the karui exterminate you
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Want to start a guild for really knowledgeable players. Basically elite-only.

What forum tags would be the minimum acceptable for such a guild? I'm thinking at least the 3 basic tags from the past 3 leagues.
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>>171708168
there's already an elite guild and it's the one i'm in
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SPAWN REEEE
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>Follow mathils morsu throw build ( before you judge me, I was already going to build it before he made the video but I'm a casual so I trust his build over what I would have done )
>It's incredibly squishy
Did I do something wrong, or did he just make the build squishy?
Already A4 merciless and haven't reached 3k life yet
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>>171708789
what level
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>>171684653
Is something the matter with my having said I had a free slot?
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>>171706942
>waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I can't buy challenges they're so unfair
basically the premise of SSF, congrats on the realization
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and how many challenges do you have done, retard? i'd bet you have less than me when i'm an SSF HC player despite you being a literal shitbird who gets free shit from 820 and buys challenges all day
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>>171706758
Silver for shitcrows, steel for hardcucks
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>>171704615
Welp I see. So far, i've got around 170%~ from the tree total. I got belly of the beast with 39%, and otherwise items ranging from around 60 - 80 life. My belt gives nothing at the moment, and some of them could be improved of course.

Either way. If 200% life from the tree alone is the "cutoff" point, then I guess im in some trouble at this point. Thanks mate.
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>GGG announces legacy league
>players will have the opportunity to abuse the OP legacy items of the past to end 2.x with a bang
>good legacy item drops are actually nonexistent
>this league is basically identical to breach league
fucking nice GGG
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>>171709102
70
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hot patch in radius per level for leap slam chris
do it
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>>171709486
>belly of the beast
If you already have 170% its beeter to just get a good rare with high life.
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>>171709489
are you not using talismans? can you not chance HH whenever you want? are you not using perandus for exclusive uniques? do you not chain strands with rampage? don't you have plenty of essences to craft whatever you want? can you not run double beyond whenever you want? you sound pretty retarded
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What does it mean if a map on the atlas has a weird purple ring around it?
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>>171709551
Well I guess youre stuck at low maps then, do you have 150%+ life from the tree or does your gear just suck?
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>>171708789
life nodes are a crutch for bad players

good players reach merc dried lake with 2k life, not even kidding

watch some racing videos if you don't believe me
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I've predicted quite a few meta builds in the past. Here's the next one: EK Nova Crit Trapper Assassin. There. Just wait until some streamer plays it.
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>>171709968
>flameblast faggotry
yawn
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>>171710115
how exactly is that better than the already existing bladefall crit trapper build which is unpopular because it's shit

2/10 for making me reply
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>Last league, get good drops, exalts all over the place
>Exalts aren't worth fuck all
>This league, shit drops the whole time
>Exalts are worth something

Why
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>>171710243
>better
This is a streamer we are talking about, and meta is just whats cool at the moment not whats best.
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>>171710345
thats not what "meta" means at all
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>>171709923
Probably both
I haven't even been able to cap resists
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>>171710345
streamers won't play shit builds because it reflects poorly on them

unless they build their audience around playing shitty builds

forward your idea to PT
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Why exactly do guides tell you to only have Shaped Mesa for tier 10 instead of all for more bonus?
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>>171709489
have you watched mathil?
he builds 4k life builds with abyssus and just yolos everything
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>>171710705
>watching a shitcrow
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Do you have to complete the bonus objective to get the excavation orb or is just killing the boss enough?
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Why does nobody uses Necromancer for actually selfbuffing damage except scourge builds?

>offerings affect you, tons of either block or cast&movement speed, the best buffs in the game right now
>fucking 40% more damage when you use an offering
>more cast speed too
>each aura you run gives you 10% increased damage. each aura gives you another 5 cast speed
>20% more chaos damage

Shouldnt it be like goodlike for tons of builds? Its extremely fast, super fucking tanky and has great damage potential.

The only thing missing is prolif from elementalist, otherwise necro is better in any way.
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>>171710601
because the +1-5% bonus is not worth diluting your t10 pool if you want to have mesa as your only t10. if you can sustain t10s fine without the bonus, it's better to only unlock shaped mesa.

guides are just guidelines though, depends on what you want to achieve. I'd kill myself I followed the recommendation of only running shaped strand all day
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>>171710601
If you're rolling your maps well, using chisels, fragments, have t13-16s open, it will enough to chain strands forever without them. Personally I like to keep Quay, Colonnade, Underground River and Courtyard for 4% more and ez layouts.
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>>171711064
>40% more damage
>20% more chaos damage

They're both increased, not more.
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>>171711064
Necro is one of the most versatile classes in-game imo, as to why people don't use it, probably laziness? self-buffing with offerings is too tedious for the average player and putting it on CWDT is not the most reliable, Commander of Darkness only shines if you start running a ton of auras with effectiveness, which locks it behind LL/Shav
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im new and what is this "ethical" meme people keep spouting?
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is mathil legally a midget or just borderline small?
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>>171709829
>are you not using talismans?
talisman mechanic is garbage
it's like 90% inventory micromanagement
>can you not chance HH whenever you want?
same as last league
>are you not using perandus for exclusive uniques?
perandus was in last league too dumbass
>do you not chain strands with rampage?
waste of a leaguestone for garbage mechanic
>don't you have plenty of essences to craft whatever you want?
essences were in last league too, also another garbage mechanic
>can you not run double beyond whenever you want?
same as last league

do you even play this fucking game or do you just spew shit nonstop
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>>171711064
You run into the issue that hit chance is shitty on the witch side of the true. Sure you can path to resolute technique or something like that, but it's generally a waste of points.

For raw buffs, elementalist is usually better for casting, while for general debuff shaenanigans you got occultist.

Some guy made a memebuild in breach with ST and scourge that only used zombies as meatshields. It was quite alright, but not t16 viable alright. Also everything in the necromancer ascendancy buffs you AND minions, so there's absolutely no reason to not run them anyway.

You could try and make your own memebuild. I'd love to see it tbqh because I also felt like doing it once with ichimonji but it didn't quite work.
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>>171711471
Yeah he's 2'3.
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>>171711510
as zana mods (nemesis was 8), which you could only run if you sacrificed better ones

in legacy you can combine 3 of them instead of just one

you're retarded, end of the story
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>>171711462
its a new level of roleplay
if you make builds that purposefully ignore OP mechanics and focus on simple ele or phys scaling your build is ethical
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>>171708502
Meanwhile I get nothing but fucking necrovigil packs every bloodlines map I run.
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>>171711510
>I don't like legacy because it revisits previous leagues which I all hated
why are you even playing this league, it does exactly what it says on the tin
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>>171711513
>hit chance
many MANY ways to get around that

the real reason why people dont use necro as a generic self-buffing class is that casting all that shit constantly is simply annoying
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>>171704050
We did, everyone bitched about it. Cutthroat is still the best thing GGG has ever produced leaguewise
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>>171711462
Ethical means playing SSF without abusing luck for RNG
Get a 6L with 50 fusing? You vendor it because its not ethical
Get a Legacy Taste of Hate? You vendor it because it's not ethical
Your build uses poison? You make a new char because its not ethical
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>>171711613
if you wanted to chance leather belts you literally just opened a map and zana modded it
unless you're telling me that chancing every leather belt immediately after pick up is what makes this league so great
while running the nemesis leaguestone which adds NEVER BEFORE SEEN NEMESIS RARES MY GOD
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You think witch ever just squats down and summons a totem between her legs?
I wonder how many that lewd slut can fit inside her lusty slit...
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>>171711772
no my point is that legacy league adds literally nothing of value to the game that WASN'T ALREADY THERE
the only truly new mechanic is reliquary keys which are a fucking joke because they never drop anything good
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>>171711957
>totems are larger then herself
I think that would kill her.
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>>171711818
holy shit im glad i don't pay ssf
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>>171712048
i've seen things man
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>>171711831
leaguestones enable previous league uniques by default, it has nothing to do with chancing you braindead retard

you could run rampage and find rampage gloves
you could run nemesis and find HH
you could run talisman and find unique talismans
you could run perandus and find varunastra

without using a single chance orb

in other words, the mere fact of participating in the league mechanic with 3 leaguestones enabled at all times means you're bound to find a lot of previous exclusive legacy uniques which is EXACTLY what the league was advertised at

totally comparable to leveling zana to 8 so you can enter a map and chance 500 leather belts, you're right

off yourself you imbecile
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I'm building a Frostblades Raider build with PhaseAcrobatics and I found a Bronn's Lithe that I found, but now I want to upgrade.
I don't know if I should get Hyrri's ire, Queen of the Forewst or Kintsugi.
I need some HP on my chest but the dodge isn't bad either. Currently at 46% attack dodge and 50% spelldodge when at full Frenzycharges/phasing, 30% without.
A friend told me that I'd need to run Grace to make up for QoF speedloss but without grace I'm currently at 13552 Evasion, which would put my extra speed at 30%. But I'd hate to have to drop Hatred to get Grace
Any insights?
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>>171711064
>not using the block offering
>not using the extra chaos offering and all the other extra damage for wands
I cant think of a single reason to use the other one.
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>>171712032
>no my point is that legacy league adds literally nothing of value to the game that WASN'T ALREADY THERE
do you not understand what "legacy" means? it an homage to previous leagues, not a brand new league mechanic never seen before

holy shit you're the most retardest stupid fuck I've encountered all week
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>>171709883
Noone?
I am wondering if I should try to get this map ASAP
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Kaom primacy on a 4l good enough for merc izaro?
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>>171712438
means it can drop a shaper's orb if you complete the bonus objective

can you not hover over it and read?
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>recover 600 life per block
>extra 35% block
>with spells too
Why isnt necromancer the aegis build for life?
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>>171712438
the effects are explained when you hover over the map itself
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>>171712504
It already is? As mentioned previously, people just don't want to deal with the tedium of self-buffing, they'd rather play permanent block builds like Gladiator or a Pathfinder with Rumi's.
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when do the GGG shills go back to ribbit
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>>171712606
Sounds like a cheap version to me. Ima make one.
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>>171712631
when you're done wiping PT's semen off your face

>"this league is shit I don't like it"
>keeps playing it
>for 10 leagues in a row
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I need a new build


MUST BE

>CASTER/RANGED
>CI
>WITCH OR RANGER
>MAYBE SHADOW
>NO TOTEMS
>FAST CLEARSPEED
>NO VAAL SKILLS

i just cant find something fun
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>>171712930
fire nova mine
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how hard is the minotaur compared to abyss kaom?

i'm farming abyss effortlessly and not really taking any damage even with multiple damage mods. i'm playing low life RF.
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>>171712930
see post above yours
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>>171712930
howa
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whos the most entertaining poe streamer
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what the fuck is wrong with monsters using rain of arrows?
why does it nearly oneshot my 12000 hp armored zombies on a map with zero damage mods?
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me
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>>171712979
tier 16 are around 5 times harder than tier 15s
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>>171712968
>you to place mine
>have to push detonator
>until then there is no damage
clunky as shit, i need to be able to clear screens with one button

>>171712996
CWC WI is fun but a slow clearer

>>171713024
i have no 400c+ budged for that.
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>>171713029
alk
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>>171713029
this forum is for people 18 or older
please leave until you meet this requirement
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>>171713029
none really
it's all memes, muh eceleb status or plain boring
having that said, karv is pretty comfy
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>>171713132
arc mine wipes a whole screen in 2 button presses
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>>171712930
Arc/BL

Vinktar mandatory, but everything else should be cheap

20% leech on your damage which is 100% lightning makes you insanely tanky with no other investment than VP
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>>171713132
it is still fast despite having to press the detonate
minefield is and 80% more modifier at level 1 bruh
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>>171713132
>doesnt want to do any work and clear fast
>has no money

::thinking::
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have they released any news on the beta for 3.0 yet? supposed to announce sometimes mid-league right?
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>>171713165
don't reply to me ever again.
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>>171712263

Why don't you just run both?

Enlighten, reservation nodes, Alpha Howl, there are tons of ways to run two 50% Auras.

Unless you're running an Herald Too?
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>>171712891
>WI build
I just recently got one and have no idea what to do and I don't want to sell it
Post build pls?
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Guys

GUYS FUCK HEAR ME OUT

CWC

Wither

Chaos damage

doublecurse CI occultist

schock nova
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>>171713595
there are multiple detailed guides on the forums made by the same guy (Kelvynn)

WI is one of those builds that doesn't leave much room for creativity since the need to path through INT nodes normalizes the tree
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Noob here. Been playing about 9 days lvl 64 or something

Running cruel dried lake runs.

I found 1 ex.

Am I the shit now?

Also, is farming in merci way better ?I am almost there just taking my time.
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>>171713225
not him but do mine builds feel different as soon as you get your laying speed nodes and stuff?

i mean if you lay a mine and detonate right after, your character stops and does a little headbang. i understand there is a delay between placement and detonation, but if you detonate too quickly (and mines don't detonate) your character still stops. it's actually literally unplayable
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>>171713587
Yes, I'm running herald of ice too, although I'm questioning whether I should.
Blasphemy isn't an option though because of range, It wouldnt even affect most of the enemies I'm hitting with frostblades and I like to keep my distance
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>64
>cruel

kill yourself
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>>171713786
sounds like garbage, the only way to convert lightning to chaos and have somewhat efficient scaling is voltaxic which does nothing for a caster and precludes the use of a shield

on top of that, because shock nova requires increased aoe, you're already losing 3 supports out of 5 possible (cwc, wither, inc aoe) leaving you with 2 damage supports at best

not going to work, spell echo lightning spell with voltaxic is already more viable from the get go, although still garbage tier
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>>171713953
I don't run HoI on my Frostblade build, the DPS increase I get from it is almost nothing and I didn't feel like I lost any clear speed losing the frost AoEs
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Whats a good damage build for a mistress of sacrifice build? I keep trying to route it but to get 170% life you cant really get more then 3-4 damage clusters and everything seems like it would be weak.
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>>171713978
My first char nigga. I am doing well. I do it fast so I am going to hit merci soon.
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>>171714251
So now I'm asking whatr I should run instead. Blasphemy is still out but arctic armour could be an option, it has some damage reduction. I got a QoF for an Alch and now I'm testing it out. Kintsugi could give me some direly needed burst resistance, already have belt of the deceiver
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So what are some viable spells that are not flameblast, EK, BV, BF, fireball or firestorm?

I need to go fast, i need to clear fast
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>>171714405
ice storm
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When it comes to block builds, is it better to stack evasion or armor?
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stack block
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>>171714594
no shit. Aside from stacking block what would the second most useful stat be?
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>>171714491
>I need to go fast, i need to clear fast
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>>171714561
Since block resets the evasion counter it can actually be viable to run evasion if you have a lot of block. The inevability of evasion hits doesn't loom so dreadfully then
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i really want to make a martyr of innocence earthquake build but the more i learn the more shit it seems
>earthquake needs reduced duration which hurts ignite
>xoph's heart/blood costs a gorillion
>so does kaom's
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>>171713595
Basically grab int nodes and put 6 sockets on it.
Use Cast when channeling linked to scorching ray on the staff
Stack the fuck out of Int. I don't pick up any %es in tree just int and a few area/damage nodes. Use jewels to convert str/dex to int and izaro's turmoil jewels
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>>171714714
life then end charges
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>>171714823
Thanks.
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>>171714735
Abberath
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the one thing I can't wait for in 3.0 is to have all the endgame noticeboard party stuff consolidated in the last town instead of being split with people still using a3's noticeboard for some reason
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Lightning arc miner. Plan to have desecrate on a totem and just cast the offerings when I can. Ill be near ma black with just a shield and the level 26 offering so... No need for nodes other then the spell shield one. MoM should make up for the low life %.
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMDAAPuBAcI9AxfDeIOjhEPEcITgxUnFm8abBvxHKcc3B2DHb4fAiNfJKoo-ipTLR8tfTBbM4c1kjbFNuk6WDrhPC1Bh0JLRZ1FuUiOSU9JsUyzTeNTUlOlVGJVxlZIVytewGKVakNrF20Zfq9-x3_GgseDX4PMg9uEd4UyhcWIWoyxjRmPGpMnlSCXLZrgm4qdrp3ZoEOhL6KjplenCKyXrJiycLQMtYW3PriTvKq86r2Cvk--isBUwbTBxcHzxq7K09fP2CTYvdlf3Yzfit--4BLjauWL6QLr7u9Q74jyRfk3-ej-Cv6P_rM=
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>>171715009
City of Sarn will never die you filthy Gemling heretic.
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whispering ice is slow as fuck you retards
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Niggamamu's Spinner lose any clearspeed with the aoe changes?
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>>171715167
no. unless you are used to max aoe scaling from every possible source, then yes
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How fast does SRS clear now and does it still perform poorly in breaches?
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As a F2P player, what would be the best first purchase? I was thinking a currency tab
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>>171716039
Normal tab. Some of us arent lucky enough to get 22 free guild tabs. (I am)
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I got a lvl90 marauder here, doing nothing and being all naked and shit

Gimme a super strong build that'll be able to handle all end game bosses. Tree and ascendancy resets are fine with me. Just give me something that can rape Esh back. He buttraped my ll rf guardian ;_;
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>>171716448
hidden potential blade vortex poison
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>>171716039
currency tab is the best tab you should ever get
i got mine during the sale so i got a premium tab with the extra money and now i can sell my extra trash
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>>171716039
currency tab + quad premium tab + a bunch of regular tabs
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>>171716573
>>171717054
Just to be clear, because I don't trust not being jewed by a F2P game, the tabs are cross league right? Meaning I'll have the empty tabs available in normal softcore and in hardcore legacy right?
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just fuck off back to d3 or your shitty mobile games you like so much
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>>171717451
u first XD
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>>171717274
yes
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>>171717274
Stash tabs are entirely separate between leagues. Hardcore characters cannot access your softcore stash, and softcore league characters cannot access your hardcore items. If for some reason you want to move items from league hardcore to standard you can put them in a hardcore character's inventory and then RIP him into standard.
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maligaro's lens
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>can't chain shaped strands like everybody else no matter what i do

good game
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>>171716039
Currency tab is so useful its actually disgusting that it costs money, and i recommend picking up a premium tab as well, so you can sell shit easier
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>AI can shotgun
>AI can offscreen 1 shot you

Why is this allowed
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>>171717865
post your atlas so we can mock you
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You wake up on the beach after falling to sleep. You make it through to the town, the scion having cleared the way just before getting eaten by zombies on the next beach. You are offered to be taught a path (class) and sent out. Whats your build.
>Obviously HC only
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>>171718651
75/126

I just ran my last 5 Strands without getting a single Strand back for the 4th time. I chisel to 20%, alch +14% packsize, use a fragment, breach/bloodlines/perandus/beyond stones. I've said it numerous times before that the RNG in this game is based on some bullshit seed and mine's absolutely broken. Things that mathematically shouldn't be happening are constantly happening to me.
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buying supporter packs improves your rng seed
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Been a while since I've crafted, so I've forgotten some stuff.

When do you slam a regalia? Rolled t1 flat and t1 es/stun and some other stuff. Not sure if I should remove the haku ES and try to yolo roll %ES or just let it be at 730ES.
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is there any chieftain hardcore viable build that actually does decent fire damage without relying on RF ?
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>>171719416
Maybe some sort of totem build. Or some kind of Iron Will.
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So how do you people make your money? I need 6ex for a red nightmare and so far I've just been coasting by on small amounts of chaos.
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>>171719254
^ this ^
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>>171719161
do you have only Strand as t11? do you have no t12 unlocked? I find it hard you got no returns at all with bloodlines and breach, you also need stacked sextants for additional monsters

beyond gives no maps so it's pointless as far as sustaining maps
tempest for +10 IIQ or ambush/domination would be much better, at the cost of lower exp but that's a balancing act
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>>171719161
>chiseling strands
waste of money
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>>171714827
>earthquake needs reduced duration which hurts ignite
ignite duration is a fixed 4 second unless explicitly modified, it is not affected by skill effect duration like poison
>xoph's heart/blood costs a gorillion
ngamahu tiki is a buget 50-70 fire damage amulet and costs <5c
>so does kaom's
use a belly

sure are some poorfag problems in a trading league where making currency should be piss easy
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Hardest part about this game for my cyclone build is the fact that I can't hit enemies who are in certain positions or next to walls/pillars/trees or when I have to stand and avoid something on the ground and I want to attack at the same time but I simply can't do that because my character moves

And the fact my leap slam has the same issues when trying to path near invisible walls, I just get "stuck"

Why can't you just spin in place if you hold shift or target the ground beneath your character or something, what's the purpose of this
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>>171720359
blizzard copyrighted that stuff so poe cant use it
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>>171719927
Yeah, only Strands open T11-12. I also find it hard to believe as well, but it has happened from a 5 map base 4 times in a row now. I'm not quad stacking +packsize sextants, since I can't afford rolling them, but there usually is at least one with increased quantity/packsize.
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>>171720359
They said they're working on fixing that bullshit in 3.0 but as to the cyclone
>we'd have to remake the skill from scratch so no lol get fucked
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How much should i be paying for a starting ES 5-Link? 500+ ES with around 50 res and Int.
I normally play life builds so I'm not familiar with CI prices. Examples in pic related.
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>>171720359
>>171720846
>fixing
At the moment the damage from that "bug" is what keeps it alive. Never heard of move speed cyclone? Just spam the button or slightly move the mouse while holding it down. Instead of the ticks from attack speed you now go as fast as you move, 2 attacks each time, the start and the stop. You can either go balls deep with damage for it or you can go really tanky with no problems damage wise.
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>>171719161
getting more atlas bonus goes a long way in the long term, streamers that sustain strands with ~70-75 atlas bonus are buying maps and sextants in bulk when they hit dry streaks, that strategy is only viable if you're pushing for 100 and have a decent amount of currency to dump into the strat in the first place

the game doesn't expect you to have "only" 75 atlas bonus by the time you sustain t11s, so why do you expect it to be the outcome?
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is there any point in playing something other than vayl fireball?
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>>171721368
5l Prophecy costs 30c
so just get a cheap 800ES+ regalia
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>>171721497
Nah, it's very common to even get more than you can run with 75 atlas. Streamers aren't buying shit. Most of them are selling their extra strands away.
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>>171721854
You still have to be prepared for getting a bad luck streak that breaks the chain
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>oh no i will have to run a few mesas to get my strands back
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i just found an exalted what should i buy for my staff crit templar? life based and using ice crash

my damage is fine but i could use more defense
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is gorge boss with increased aoe suicidal or is my build shit? i can't seem to evade his offscreen leaps and if it weren't for my basalt i'd be dead now

no damage mod on map either
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official /poeg/ league tier list:

>hc ssf
>power gap
>hc temp
>big power gap
>hc perm
>huge power gap
>sc ssf
>massive power gap
>sc temp
>galactic power gap
>sc perm
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>>171722531
Dumb cat poster
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>>171722085
That is what I'm doing, since shaped mesas are half the price of strand and still almost equal XP for me right now. Doesn't look any better for my map pool though.
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>>171722531
if ssf hc is so great... why does no one play it?
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Who's ready for Alkz do disconnect on his last map before 100?
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>>171722859
he can't die to disconnect, that's one of the perks of being a gladiator

is this his first 100?
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that would be pretty funny
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>>171722998
Oh he can die easily to a DC, just not to a couple of white mobs. He can't die to anything as long as he keeps clearing.
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a DC keeps you in game for what, 6 seconds? pretty sure a gladiator can outlast a breach for 60 seconds
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that's BADASS dude
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>>171723348
gladiator with aegis or the life shield can outlast breaches infinitely
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>>171723872
Why doesn't every play these max block builds then? Or those CI/mega-tank builds that have like 20k ES and a gorillion regen.
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>>171723613
who is this ugly girl
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>>171724190
Expensive? Not as fun? I mean necromancers get aegis free why does no one play that? There is something just thrilling about playing a 3k hp low defenses miner that has to zoom around everywhere.
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>>171724190
shit clearspeed
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>>171724190
His gear is worth like 300ex. To be immortal and have a decent clearspeed you need a shit ton of gear.
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>energy from within up to 200c+

o-only need two more for my build heh!!
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>>171724423
>>171724428
thank you for your opinions shitcrows
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>>171724451
wtf why are they so expensive this league
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>>171724451
>minimum roll is 1.9 ex
who is responsible for this
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Why doesn't IIR upgrade transmutes to alts, and chaos to blesseds
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>>171724553
ggg

they made it a tier S drop rate. i've found 4.

and ripped 3.
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>>171724634
maybe it does and you just dont know
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>>171724548

they stealth nerfed the droprate, now it's a t1 drop

started around 100c at the beginning of the league, now theyre 200-250 (on lhc at least). i really have no idea if i should buy the last two i need now in case they keep going up
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>>171724650
seriously? t1 for a jewel that gives you 18% ES
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>leap slam a mile away
>rubber band back to start
>leap slam a mile away again
>rubber band back to start again
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>>171724483
If you dont want an answer dont ask. I play HC because SC doesnt give me a rush. I only have 4 tabs so building an expensive set is impossible. 1 item here or there sure but no. So I play cheap fast suicide style builds to have fun.
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>referring to the prices of items sub 500c in terms of exalts
is this some sort of shitcrow-only thing?
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>>171724813
>use whirling blades
>instantly whirl back to original spot
>this repeats half a dozen times
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*tips fluted bascinet*
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>>171725002
>that giant mod list
>28 packsize
ay
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>>171724451
CI is overpowered even without those jewels
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>>171724785
yeah it was never that good. people are just retarded. you can get 8% ES+3 damage/utility rolls on a rare jewels instead. or don't pick up melding. or whatever you want. the jewel isn't anywhere near worth 200c power wise.
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How are people gonna kill Shaper in 3.0?

unless they quadruple the stats on chaos/DoT/burning nodes
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>>171725265
monsters are going to be toned down so that the average map mob doesn't have 3 million HP
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If I use a corrupted item on a fated prophecy, will the fated item be corrupted?
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>playing EK nova pathfinder
>stopping to generate power/frenzy charges with bv has killed my enjoyment of the build
BV has such an annoying fucking mechanic. l'm not even lazy, it just feels so much more smooth when its passively generated from something like COH+Assassins mark or whatever.

Is overcharged worth getting or is it just a shittier version of Lochtonial's effect? Would get a victario's, but I lose 900ES from my neck.
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>>171725872
fucking idiot

just PCoC orb of storms
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>>171725872
get more ES from elsewhere
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>>171725872
>>171725969
Or just

you know

PCoC a second EK because it's a nova
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>>171724860
You realise that >>171724483 is a different poster to >>171724190 ?
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>>171725265
the world first shaper kill didn't use double dipping.
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>>171724813

i haven't had this in a while

i quit the game for a long ass time because of it though
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>find Faminebind
>looks like a shit belt, guessing it's another vendor trash like everything else in the game
>it's 30+c
ayy wot? who uses this?
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>>171726284
No one, but the Retch is actually strong
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>>171726284
Occultists, most likely in comibanition with Death's Oath
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>>171726284
>build Occultist
>build the Retch with Faminebind and Death's Oath and Atziris Promise
>enjoy endless life/ES
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>>171722350
he hits hard but with basalt and optimally a granite too + antibleed, you should be ok
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>>171725872
if youre gonna use charges USE A CLASS WITH CHARGE GENERATION YOU FUCKING FRAUD
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n___ ____ ________
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predictive
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>tfw dont want to play bladeflurry or spectral throw or flameblast or earthquake or some meme assassin triple dipping bullshit
>means its going to take me ages to kill map bosses and I'll get owned by breaches

I was also tempted to try ssf since I'm kinda bored already but I dont know if I'll be able to deal with never finding a diamond flask or things like that
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>>171727229
>shitcorws

lmoa
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>>171727229
is he actually playing on predictive?
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>>171727320
that's the thing holding you back from SSF? not being able to find a common white flask?
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Is Rigvald difficult at all? Haven't bothered yet and I didn't play during Talisman.
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>>171727526
the low level one is very easy
the l80 one is a bit harder but nowhere near shaper-difficulty
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>>171727320
there are about a billion other builds that melt map bosses and breaches.
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>>171727526
He's the exact same boss as Dark Forest, and players in Talisman were a lot weaker than they are in 2.6

a complete joke for any geared end game character, since it's basically running an easier white Dark Forest boss room
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>>171726194
What was the world's first shaper kill, anyway?
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>>171727482
its pretty annoying desu especially with how OP diamonds are
feeling like rolling some GMP fireball thing but I already know its going to suck and that a super endgame vaal fireball retard build is the end goal depresses me
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>Abusing the leaguestone bug

>SSF

Also, Chris going full "lads, i'm disappointed" on plebbit and sheeple licking his ass like there is no tomorrow.
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Why are auras so expensive?
Didn't they used to be like 15%/35%
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>>171725134
Perhaps he got a bad corruption.
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>>171727628
>le plebbit sheeple meme
tab back to your wow stream, PT
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>>171727603
>billion
please
and no I dont want animate meme or summon raging memes
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Is there a channel to PC items on?
I got one of those unique talismans that doesn't seem shit and got an offer for 40c on it but not sure if that's lowballing or not.
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>how do I effortlessly steamroll the whole game
>no good builds please
shut up retard
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>>171691064
>GGG fucked up.

Not first time.

IIRC, there was history of GGG covering their eyes on the shenanigans of other players. Also, there was a scandal with implication that someone in staff leaked info to Lightwoods guild (not to mention the rumors that they cover up RMT from "respectable players")


Which is disgusting, considering their stance of "bwukbwukbwuk, plebs should be banned for everything" and legion of players that will back up Chris on this shit.
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>>171727884
poe DOT trade you fucktard
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>>171728062
I tried there. There's no other amulet like mine for sale which is why I'm asking if there's a place to PC them.
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>>171727620
Zizaran with chieftain warchief totems. In HC anyway.
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>>171728005
Hard evidence to be found in this post: none whatsoever
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>>171728105
which amulet
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>>171727780
if you believe only those 6 skills can clear fast and kill bosses, you're just terrible at this game. no way around it.
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>>171728353
A rare from talisman league I found a few days ago. I asked a few of my veteran friends and they don't know either.
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>>171728117
he had a supportcuck. doesnt count
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>>171728154
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1354365

Quite literally the same situation where GGG didn't admit any tomfoolery going on until it was literally proven. I'm not sure if that's even the famous Lightning Coil dupe fiasco or just another similar case I found on Google. This has happened on several occasion. I'm not doing your Googling.
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>>171728446
Nothing. You can roll an onyx amulet with an essence of envy for much better rolls if you're that desperate for damage, which you usually aren't. Also competes with +1 curse for the implicit or Chayula for the neck itself.
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>>171728446
it would have better chances of being worth something if it was a life talisman
take the 40c and run
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>>171728608
>"There was no hard evidence of this"
>"Oh yeah? here's a thread with more speculation based on market changes!!!"
Bravo
Refer to >>171728154
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>>171728720
>>171728616
Alright, thanks for the help.
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>>171728154
Chris, go fuck yourself.
Seriously.

Lightwoods not being in a permaban is enough of the evidence
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I like how GGG shills use the same rhetoric as christian fundies to dismiss fossil evidence as being "merely conjectural" in support for the theory of evolution, just applies to GGG's wrongdoings.
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>>171728573
He did it solo after. Will you move the goalpost to count only world first kills now? World first solo HC kill was Raiz with Pathfinder BV. Didn't double dip either, but abused the shit out of the old BV PF Vinktar's meme.
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>>171728847
Great evidence.
>>171728876
Not an argument. You're the one pissing on toast and pretending you saw the image of the Christ in it.
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>>171728608
You are trying to make a point to a "GGG dindoo nuffin" retard. If Chris will shit in his mouth tomorrow, he will be convinced it's a fucking brownies or something.
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>>171729058
Lick your lips and tell me how PT's cock tastes like
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A goy and his shekels are soon parted
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>>171729164
Sorry mate, could you try to repeat it without Chris dick stuffed in your cuntmouth?
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>>171728725G
Like I said I'm not doing your work for you. This has literally happened before. GGG has ignored bug abusers/cheaters until they've become publicly proven. They've even said no wrongdoing has been going on until cornered. This isn't a meme or up to debate, they've themselves confirmed it afterwards. It doesn't prove that GGG are behind every RMT site or Chris is the Satan incarnate, just that they've fucked up. If that thread isn't it, keep digging. You won't get another (you) out of me.
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The fuck is going on with xyz/ggg api?? I set my tabs to public 50 minutes ago and only just now have items been listed.
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>>171729267
Did Chris personally anal raped your mom or something? Why do you hold such a grudge against him in particular? I don't give a shit about Chris personally, you were the one to bring him up so his balls must be in your mouth, not mine
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>>171728963
>not an argument

YOU are the one not wanting to have one

most forms of research and reporting on any topic dont shy away from circumstantial evidence as long as there is a reasonable thread stringing it to a fact ,even if just to have an argument about it

its only GGG shills who want nothing but court of law-level indisputable hard evidence (which doesnt exist because we have no ways to obtain it) despite all the staggered circumstantial evidence pointing out how fishy the whole thing as been for years

who is being unreasonable here? if we had that kind of evidence, there would not be an argument either, as there would be nothing to argue. we dont and hence we can have an argument about what we have, which is what you absolutely dont want.
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>>171729408
Shilling for GGG despite the common knowledge that it's quite shady now qualifies as "not giving a shit".
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>>171729321
>This has literally happened before.
Yeah people speculating on nothing and subsequently getting blown the fuck out when the truth came out has happened before.
>GGG has ignored bug abusers/cheaters until they've become publicly proven.
They've also banned a lot of people you've never heard of. What's your point? Care to name a few of those bug abusers/cheaters? Care to show evidence they had been willingly protected by GGG until exposed?
>They've even said no wrongdoing has been going on until cornered.
You have no evidence they lied.
>You won't get another (you) out of me.
You don't get paid by the (You) here, bub. Until you can come up with something substantial, all you're accomplishing is wasting my time, retard. Thanks for nothing, and enjoy that PT semen in your stomach
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>>171729649
>all you're accomplishing is wasting my time, retard

>Implying your time means something

Eat shit, shill.
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>>171729581
Conspiracy theories are not "common knowledge", you get told hours ago and now you're back for some more shitposting like the addicted retard you are.

If I'm shilling for GGG, I don't give a shit about Chris in particular. A person is not an entire company. You're the one who's foaming at the mouth mentioning him non stop. Chris this, Chris that. I will ask again: did he personally rape your mom? What's your deal with him? Or do you hold him responsible for everything bad that's happened to you in PoE, like a 5 year-old?
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>>171729761
Chris Wilson is lead developer.

Should I explain meaning of the word "lead", you illiterate imbecile?
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>>171729420
Here's what you can argue about: logic, facts, data. Here's what you can not argue about: your made up fantasies based on nothing more but interpretation of the color and shape of your shits. You're the one avoiding the argument because you don't have one. All you have is calling me a "shill" like that gives weight to your stance. What?
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what the actual fuck

quick, green text me what is happening from your perspective i need to figure this out
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>>171729870
Should I start explaining to you what a "company" is? Do we need to go back to the building blocks? How fucking naive and childish can you be?
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Someone's butthurt about meme money heing obtained unethically and another dude needs to show off how much he doesn't give a fuck about the issue.
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>>171729715
I take my shitposting time very seriously, retard. You clearly don't, since you've devolved into a YOU SHILL!!1!! broken record after like 2 posts. Step your game up, rookie.
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>>171729925
Fact: an exploit ran rampant as was reported
Fact: GGG decided that since they could not reproduce on their internal test real, it wasnt real. Until finally they realized otherwise 2 weeks later
Fact: NO ONE WAS PUNISHED for basically duping stones
Fact: Until someone told reddit, they they did punish people and blamed reddit for making them look bad.

Logical conclusion: GGG intended to keep the whole thing secret and let exploiters keep their gains until someone blew the lid

Should i keep going?
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>>171729983
>a week ago a bug report was made about infinite leaguestones (infinite chayulas etc.)
>ggg did nothing for a week and let people abuse it
>now a week later the bug reporter himself came public
>ggg now started banning people

>some retard for whatever reason believe this has never happened before

that's about it.
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>>171730143
If those are facts, you should be able to find ANY sort of damning proof ot it. Records. Crosschecked evidence. But you can't. Because it's all in your head.
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>>171730157
oh i know about that (although much appreciation to the effort of typing it), I meant in this thread right now. it's absolutely ridiculous and I haven't read a word of it but I'm insanely curious what is going through these people's heads.
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>>171730259
well the last line is what's happening itt.
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>>171730314
I guess I'll just stop being a lazy cunt and read it all. I'm assuming it's just
>wah wah
>fuck you
>shill
>CHRIS
>GGG
>they knew
>they didn't know
>who cares

Basically somebody got banned and is mad as fuck they have to re-buy their spark spiders?
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>>171730256
So you dont believe those are facts EVEN when they are taken directly from what Chris himself said on 2 posts yesterday?

Im done. Like i said, there is absolutely no amount of evidence, the kind of evidence we can get, that you would take because you are refuse to even consider GGG is as shitty as they really are. You've put your faith in shitty people, m8.
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>>171730459
I'm talking about the Lightning Coil duping hysteria that happened 2 years ago, not the leaguestone exploit on which GGG came out clean about yesterday, retard. The whole "believe me because this has happened in the past!!!" gimmick doesn't stand, because it hasn't. What has happened in the past is people speculating on information they didn't have and arriving to false conclusions, very much like the economical damage created by the leaguestone exploit. You also have no evidence those cheaters wouldn't have been banned anyway.
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>>171724634
because then it would be a strictly good stat that everyone would want to stack
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I didn't play much during breach league, so I wan't to do a little breach farming and not sure which builds are better suited for it.

Can SRS+Spectres kill breach lords? I can't afford Severed, but the other uniques are inexpensive.

Or any other HC viable builds that can do it on the cheap? (100c or so)
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>it takes 10 minutes to fix any bug
this is what retards really believe
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>>171730571
>very much like the economical damage created by the leaguestone exploit.

except anyone can check to see how the econ is behaving and knows there wasnt much of an impact. if anything it was on ssf runs that the shenanigans got certain people ahead

>You also have no evidence those cheaters wouldn't have been banned anyway.

That you are completely ignoring they were not banned right until someone came clean on the topic publicly, is in itself borderline delusional on your part.
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>>171730658
>Can SRS+Spectres kill breach lords?
not without good gear, the fights are a clusterfuck of AoE denial spam which kills SRS very quickly and specters don't last long either
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>>171730571
> You also have no evidence those cheaters wouldn't have been banned anyway.

Just waiting for the "i was only pretending,jpg" now.
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>>171730086
>meme money heing obtained unethically

Hadn't GGG try to position themselves like some sort of a virgin who saw the cock for the first time, there would be no problem.

The "unethical" obtaining is destructive, yet tolerable.

RMTing is tolerable as well.

The "We will ban people in this case, but close the eyes on other case and go full damage control if somebody points out our own bullshit", however, is disgusting.


Nobody likes hypocrites. Especially with "ho
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>>171725002
jesus christ
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>>171730086
>nothing matters nihilism lmao
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>>171730797
Correlation does not imply causation. It multiple people end up in jail after a drug bust but only until they've gone through the legal process to determine the severity of their involvement, it does not mean they ended up jail just to appease the public, you fucking idiot.
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>go to sleep
>wake up
>people still bitching about the bug
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what if we removed accuracy as a stat and made melee always hit just like spells do
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>>171730814
Not an argument. If you believe GGG is protecting a handful of cheaters or closing their eyes for no real reason as they create economical damage which hurts their game and thus by extension their money, you're a retard.
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>>171731013
bad analogy

it wasnt people who got randomly or routinely banned over something at the same time the whistleblower leaked the news

it was people banned over the exploit

if you are at the point where even your intellectual sword swallowing and mental gymnastics cant even produce a valid analogy, you have to start considering you may be defending the undefensible
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>>171731120
only if critical hits are also nerfed into the fucking dirt to the point where at most you can get around 40-50% critical strike chance if you slot absolutely everything for critical strike chance.
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>>171731120
>dude why if we made everything the same shit, players love dumbed down shit and hate complexity
>dude diablo 3
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>>171731013
If a guy gets busted for corruption only because whistleblower made it public that he months ago alerted the authorities and started getting all pissy about it, it doesn't require a genius mind to put two and two together, mate.
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>>171731120
My ranger would die to reflect. I get my accuracy in the perfect range to where I can evade myself while still doing enough damage.
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>>171730801
Damn, that's a shame. SRS is one of my favorites.

Any recommendations? I heard bladeflurry might be decent. Never used it before and couldn't find any HC viable guides on it, so I'm wary that it might not be retard friendly for people like me.
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>>171731286
>Use spells
>Go for CI
>Now have 1500 passive points to do anything I fucking want including getting disgusting amounts of damage on my spells so I can annihilate bosses from off screen even harder than I already do.
>Go melee
>whoops need accuracy nodes and accuracy on gear
>whoops need all the life I can get
>whoops need critical strike chance to actually do damage.
>whoops still need a couple damage nodes-oh im out of points
>well at least i can slot poison for le double le dip XD
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>>171731186
>hurts their game

Not with shills and full plebbit of self-flagellating "making Chris disappointed is as bad as disappointing your own father" cucks.

>thus by extension their money

My sweet summer child, do you believe as well, that corruption doesn't exist because it damages the country and society?
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>>171731492

>shitty attack-based poison build with nothing but some crit and accuracy nodes plus jewls can do 7m-60m dps

>the hardest scaling spells dont break 2m dps

:thinking:
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>>171731249
>it was people banned over the exploit
... No fucking shit? They got banned for the exploit, which was exposed. The exposition of the exploit did not lead to their ban, that's only speculation of your part, which is where the "correlation does not imply causation" part comes in. The analogy stands, because you're equating news report of a crime as somehow the main cause criminals end up in jail, not the crime they committed.

>>171731298
At best it shows the incompetence of the police for not taking the lead seriously, not that they are corrupt enough to let drug abuse run rampant for no real reason except being cartoonish corrupt cops.
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Should I be picking up every rare I see?
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>>171731639
Who gives a shit about reddit? What's the point of tanking your own economy, in a game that is centered around the economy? What is the advantage of halving the lifespan of a league by devaluing everything?

>My sweet summer child, do you believe as well, that corruption doesn't exist because it damages the country and society?
Corrupt people in power have no interest of damaging their sources of income, retard. Corruption does not mean stupidity, if you burn your stacks of bills, does that make you a corrupted person or an incredibly retarded one?
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can someone give me a good summoner guide that isnt SRS and that doesn't cost 500+ chaos for unique gear
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>>171731761
>The exposition of the exploit did not lead to their ban, that's only speculation of your part, which is where the "correlation does not imply causation" part comes in. The analogy stands, because you're equating news report of a crime as somehow the main cause criminals end up in jail, not the crime they committed.

Your analogy implies not everybody busted was directly connected to the drug whatever.

All the banned people where confirmed for exploiters.

You try to imply the ban wave was not caused by something that happened hours earlier when it did not happen on any of the 10 or so days leading to the patch, then the day after, but only after the thing became public and people began loudly asking what would happen of the people cheating.

you repeat "correlation does not imply causation" but fail to realize that correlation can and does reveal causation, it just doesnt necessarily does so. It takes knowledge of the context to determine if there is causation, and you are purposefully ignoring the context to try and characterize 2 events as wholly unconnected
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>>171732147
https://www.poebuilds.net/
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what build do all the furries play
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>>171732248
rigwald sword+axe
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>>171732147
Strength Zombie Necromancer with The Baron and 2 Violent Dead jewels.
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>rare gemcutter box
>box only contains support gems modifier
>also a contains a Vaal gem modifier
>4 support gems and a Vaal power siphon
Holy shit box get yourself together
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>>171732248
Anything with CI included
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>>171732150
>Your analogy implies not everybody busted was directly connected to the drug whatever.
No. I implied that assessing the severity of a crime requires time. You want to lock up the drug dealers, not the somewhat innocent people who were tangentially involved. In the case of PoE, you want to hit the people who clear as cut abused the exploit, not innocently tried it a few times because someone told them it was possible. This process takes time, because you don't want to permaban innocents, that's collateral damage.

>All the banned people where confirmed for exploiters.
No shit. All criminals committed a crime. What's your point.

>You try to imply the ban wave was not caused by something that happened hours earlier when it did not happen on any of the 10 or so days leading to the patch, then the day after, but only after the thing became public and people began loudly asking what would happen of the people cheating.
It was patched a few days ago, retard.
"Either on the patch of 17th of March or the 20th of March, GGG fixed a gamebreaking bug."
Distorted reality due to your own delusion or intended warping of the truth? make your call.

>fail to realize that correlation can and does reveal causation, it just doesnt necessarily does so.
Everything is correlated so everything causes everything. Great logic. At no point did you use a logical step to arrive to the conclusion that people were banned solely because of the reddit thead. They most likely would have been banned anyway, just like hundreds and hundreds of cheaters have been banned in the past, reddit thread or not.
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Redpill me on blade flurry

What weapon type should I go for assuming i have rags for currency
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>>171732537
I don't help teenagers who unironically use the term redpill
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>>171732579

s--s-s-s---s-ssorry senpai
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>>171732579
redpill me on shitposting
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>in a breach that would put mongolians to shame
>try and shield dash to theother side
>every time I dash forward my character dashes back even though my mouse is on the edge of the screen
This bullshit seems to be happening every time the games fps counter starts to drop as if it delays my inputs until seconds later.
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>>171732683
it has standards
redpill me on millenials like you
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>>171732713
I don't help teenagers who unironically use the term redpill
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>>171732763
kek
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>>171731998
>Corrupt people in power have no interest of damaging their sources of income, retard

Mate, do your research, especially on the ones in Eastern Europe/Russia and kindly shut your mouth.

>What's the point of tanking your own economy, in a game that is centered around the economy?

Considering the damage is not permanent? And there is virtually NO damage at all unless some whistleblower decides to open his mouth?

Mate, your overestimating of "they tank their ingame economy and nobody will play the game because reputation" principle marks you as a retard.


>Who gives a shit about reddit?

Reddit is a sample of the community, mate.
Which shows clearly the old russian saying "Хoть ccы в глaзa - вcё бoжья poca"

You, by the way, are an example of that saying as well.
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>>171732763
reddits do have a hard time differentiating ironical and unironical uses of a term
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>>171732489
>green text white text green text white text autism

no thx

Ill just tell you: the patch was a few days ago but the reports where done much earlier. GGG was aware of the issue way before, and they also punished no one soon after the patch. You are now trying really hard to misrepresent what im saying.

>They most likely would have been banned anyway.

Given that past exploiters and dupers were never banned, i doubt it. Whatever "facts" known to only you convince you to believe those people would have been punished anyway, you havent shared them. My assumptions and what cause them have been clearly stated and the timing of the ban wave only gives my hypothesis strength.
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>tfw banned
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>>171732579
>>171732763

Quality posts my man! Thanks for making poeg a better place!
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>>171732878
fuck off
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Path of Trading sure is great
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speaking of summoner, this is fantastic, killing shit while dead. HE does shaper aswell

https://youtu.be/TJTD8iFKnbc
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>>171732845
>GGG was aware of the issue way before,
They weren't, for one reason or the other. You should blame their incompetence, not their alleged lack of morals.
>and they also punished no one soon after the patch.
People were banned shortly after the patch. Banwaves are that, bans that happen in wave, not one person at a a time, while the others funnel their currency to mock accounts. This is how it happens in literally every gaming company ever.

>Given that past exploiters and dupers were never banned, i doubt it.
You have no evidence of that. If you provided evidence, this conversation would start to have some point, but until then it's all empty "GGG doesn't ban cheaters until they're exposed on reddit!!!" nonsense.
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>>171732976
is this a viable strategy in hc
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>>171731705
>poison

remove double dipping (confirmed to be happening) and suddenly you lose literally all your DPS and might as well roll pizzablast ;)
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>>171733001
>They weren't, for one reason or the other.
Latency being relevant for all these kinds of exploits has been known forever, i see no way to excuse them that they couldnt reproduce the issue on their localhost server.

And the banwave happened right after the thing went public.

And the dev's friend guild remains unbanned. And during the LC dupe you could buy them for $6. I bought one (it was a big deal, phys damage, back then). Both i and my seller remain unbanned.
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give me a quick rundown on EO
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>>171733146
whatever xbox kiddie game poe becomes in 3.0, i cant say
maybe they actually manage to fix how elemental damage works on endgame without relying on burn or vinktars
maybe they dont.
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>>171732845
>that god awful armor design

i would totally let doedre curse my dick with her mouth tho if u catch my drift
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I dropped a talisman like a fucking retard while waiting for Vaal to appear when leveling and ofc it picked it up

a vaal oversoul with the increased phys modifier talisman doesnt fuck around
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>>171733343
i would curse her womb with a baby if u can catch my drift
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>>171733208
>Latency being relevant for all these kinds of exploits has been known forever, i see no way to excuse them that they couldnt reproduce the issue on their localhost server.
Oh so no you're a programming expert. Why didn't you just say so in the first place and saved everyone some time?
>And the banwave happened right after the thing went public.
Correlation does not imply causation. News report of a crime is not why criminals end up locked up.
>And the dev's friend guild remains unbanned.
Not an evidence.
>And during the LC dupe you could buy them for $6. I bought one (it was a big deal, phys damage, back then). Both i and my seller remain unbanned.
First, that's pathetic, and explains a lot why you seem to have deep seated anger if you care enough about pixels to pay real money.

Second, RMT happens, and you didn't get banned because you were not caught. Not seeing your point. Maybe if you recorded your RMTing and sent evidence to GGG and still were not banned, you might be into something.
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>>171733279
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what is that even supposed to mean
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>>171733412
man im sorry youve never learned to dupe. in beyond it was basically a free4all duping fest and im surprised people like you still defend GGG on this

>correlation..
your mantra you keep repeating to try create false dichotomies. have this in mind: correlation can reveal causation. symptoms can reveal a disease, etc. Its just something not to be taken for granted. Or in your case, to not take for granted the opposite.

Also my seller was selling so cheap because he literally sold dozens. Possibly hundreds. I doubt GGG remained unaware of his fuckery.
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>>171723872
I really don't understand why so many people use The Surrender. Normal mobs won't kill you ever with max block, only onehits are dangerous.
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>>171733835
Still
No
Hard
Evidence

Keep digging that hole, you RMTing piece of shit.
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Wait doedre is a girl?
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At what point should I attempt the labyrinth? Should someone fresh out of act 4 be able to handle it comfortably?
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>Woah time to check out all the leagues i never played
>they
>all
>fucking
>suck
>use perandus, breach, bloodlines all day
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>>171733989
Lab is balanced around having 1500/3000/5000/7000 hitpoints
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>>171734098
Okay thanks
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>>171733964
You are asking for court-of-law type evidence on an issue where only solid circumstantial evidence is needed.

No one is gonna bother infiltrating GGG's servers and dumping log files and bugging Chris' phone because no one is trying to out GGG out of business.

We are merely discussing a shady f2p game dev among a sea of shady f2p devs who are mostly scum, and GGG just happens to be no different.

They arent even remarkable in this regard.
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>ME has Pathfinders now
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Guys
I think Nessa might be the shapers daughter
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>>171734147
>You are asking for court-of-law type evidence on an issue where only solid circumstantial evidence is needed.
Not even that, I'm asking for any REMOTELY incriminating evidence that GGG works hand in hand with RMT sites, or that they have cheating protegees that they are quick to ban once reddit catches up, or whatever fantasies your mind can come up with. Not your pathetic emotional appeal that GGG is scum or that Chris is a liar that fucked your mom. Any. Evidence.

>We are merely discussing a shady f2p game dev among a sea of shady f2p devs who are mostly scum
Again, a pathetic attempt at steering the argument into one of emotion. No one cares about your bad history with f2p games or your opinion of GGG. Literally nobody gives a shit. Unsubstantiated praise or criticism belongs on reddit, where you reap internet points. Here all you're doing is wasting my precious shitposting time, retard.
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2x consuming dark, fire trap
y/n
can you say "triple dipping"
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>>171734331
Nessa is a slut
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>>171733412
>care enough to pay real money.

Quite a lot of us who've been on the "darker" side and sold/traded gear to RMT sites, sold MMO accounts and gold, CSGO skins etc. have hundreds of "real money" on Paypal, Scrim and whatever accounts. You can't deposit it to bank account so easily in all countries without explaining it in the taxes, so you just spend it on the same stuff.

I'm my opinion if you're quitting a league/MMO/whatever it's completely fucking retarded not to sell your account for real money. I got $600 for my WoW account on a shitty WoW private server that I played for 2 months.
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>>171734473
can't convert DoT
barely qualifies as double dipping since the initial hit is mediocre anyway
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>>171734473
The only thing in the game that Triple Dips is the burning ground from the Burning Arrow jewel.
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>>171734473
i can say "retard who doesnt know what dipping means"
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PeeBee a slut
A SLUT
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>>171734456
Just to put your level of delusion in perspective:

You claim that facts taken out of Chris' own posts are not real.

You claim that common-sense logic on their banwave timing is false and such events happening next to each other is coincidental

You claim that LC duping wasnt real despite numerious reddit and forum posts on the contrary, because you dont consider them to be evidence.

You will claim that even the ggg dev deleting a post and admitting was probably a mistake doesnt count as evidence of anything.

You are utterly and completely delusion as to what kind of evidence you can expect from these kinds of situation.

Keep living in your dreamworld bub, you need to stay there, as you are clearly not equipped to deal with whats outside.
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>>171734570
>triple dips

unless the burning ground base damage is derived from the arrow burn and then is scaled again by fire/burn, its not triple dip
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Is there a way to stop getting council prophecies
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>not triple dipping while running double shaped t16 strands
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Is Kintsugi or Perfect Form better for a EV based ranger?
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>Damage malachai until he puts up his shield
>Still gets 4 seconds of free attacks
>Die because "There's no way he can actually attack now right"
Why is this allowed
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>>171735064
perfect form is better, specially with shaper gloves
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>>171734989
That's exactly what it does. That's why it's the only thing in the game that can triple dip.
It's great with the old and new jewel and I transitioned into it extremely well once I hit mercy dried lake from day one flameblast totem leveling.
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>>171734878
>You claim that facts taken out of Chris' own posts are not real.
Chris has denied every fantasy you've advanced as factual. If you want admission of guilt from his mouth, you won't find it.

>You claim that common-sense logic on their banwave timing is false and such events happening next to each other is coincidental
Common sense dictates that two things happening in the same short time frame does not mean that one was the cause of the other.

>You claim that LC duping wasnt real despite numerious reddit and forum posts on the contrary, because you dont consider them to be evidence.
Forum and reddit wild guessing is not evidence, as proven time and time again. That's your argument? "Reddit said it so it must be true?" You're past the point of childish gullibility and went straight into the full retard zone.

>You will claim that even the ggg dev deleting a post and admitting was probably a mistake doesnt count as evidence of anything.
It's evidence they said something wrong and deleted the post. Anything more is all in your deluded mind.

>You are utterly and completely delusion as to what kind of evidence you can expect from these kinds of situation.
Yeah expecting any evidence to back up your claim is delusional. Because you don't have any.

>Keep living in your dreamworld bub, you need to stay there, as you are clearly not equipped to deal with whats outside.
The realist in me laughs at such weak banter, just because the world is a shitty place doesn't mean I believe it's out there to get me or that it's inhabited by cartoon villains and greedy f2p devs you stupid little special snowflake.
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don't argue with shills and apologists
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the only one who needs to apologize is PT
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>>171735278
Its the first time ive seen someone claim that quotes taken from chris's reddit posts verbatim arent real

Its trully shilling at a new level
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Do give me the exact quote of Chris admitting working hand in hand with RMT sites or protecting well-known cheaters.

And stop talking to yourself.
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>>171685906

Then stop playing the game. Seriously. I haven't touched PoE for literal years and the double standard was known to me way back then. Jagex has the same problem so I don't play their games either. I'm willing to deal with incompetence but I'm not going to support scummy devs who shit all over parts of their player base but shelter and coddle their streamers or whales.
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>I haven't touched PoE for literal years
>posts on /poeg/

that pretty much sums it up
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why are you still here if you don't play the game
stop wasting your time
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>i wont accept any evidence other than chris himself admitting he enables rmters and cheaters XDXDXD

lmao
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I killed merveil once guys I know the game
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>I don't have any evidence, only what some random redditors have said in the past. Is that not enough for you?
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>>171735278
This. It used to be a reddit-only thing (For PoE) but now it's obvious they're in here as well. Even if you give direct quotes with reference, the shills and cock-suckers will still weasel their way through a mass array of logical fallacies and straight-out ignoring the evidence.
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There has been no evidence presented, only speculation
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L M A O
M
A
O
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incredible my mane
try dropping a 5l tho
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calm down its only an ex
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>>171735682
Did he died?
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i plan to use this once i get a strongbox stone, roll all boxes with exile and try to get lucky

yeah its just like, level 38 mang
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>>171735926
I got like 7 of those
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Is there anything special I need to know before shaping a map?
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don't shape the wrong one
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>>171708502
pretty sure they only spawn in maps now
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>>171736326
If you shape the wrong map /poeg/ will laugh and meme at you
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>>171736326
don't bother shaping t12 and t14, you'd rather have more strands and shores instead
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>>171712930
voltaxic LA with incandescent heart
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>Better alc this map so i get the completion bonus
>Temp chains + Ele equilibrium
>Ok i'll alc this other map then
>Temp chains + Ele equilibrium
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>>171719770
For moneyz I started mercy lab carry.

Also why aren't you running aurabot helping your comrades
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>>171736849
>shore
>over atoll
>not getting vaults for t12
>not selling t14 for massive cash because they have the good base drops
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>>171737247
>>>>>>>>atoll
>zero density
>boss can actually deal upwards of 8k damage in one hit with the right mods
>boss also has possibly the shittiest loot table
also
>leaving ANY red maps unlocked

lmaoing @ ur life and ur 15m xp/hr
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>>171737785
>getting hit by the massive windup ice nova that is telegraphed so hard with it's a giant noise basically screaming "FUCK OFF OUT OF HERE I'M GONNA BLOW"
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>unascended lvl 50 with 3 achieves buying my 10ex+ items

Hmm, really makes you think..
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>three diviner's strongboxes
>still no carto
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how is babby formed ??
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>>171738129
It's an alt account.
His friends gave it to him.
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dont make me beat you up
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Is there any reason to all-clear a map?
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>>171737942
>not just using taste of hate and killing the boss in under 3 seconds regardless of mods anyway
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how hard does abyss kaom hit unbuffed?
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>just filled up a full tab of skill gems I'll likely never touch
>mfw hoarder
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not as hard as im going to hit you stupid catposter
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>price for EVERYTHING goes down EXCEPT for headhunter/skyforth


This is fucking stupid, explain your economy right now
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>>171739625
freely accessible perandus
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Is there a limit to how far down you can push a monsters resistances?

Right now I have up to 53 pen and -40 reduced, and a friend can put -50 (from ee) and -24 (from ray) ontop of that.

So -114 and 53 penetration.
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>>171739742
No limit.
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>>171739742
No but it has dimishing returns
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mathil, stop posting
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>>171739480
But you can just go buy all the skill gems from the ghost man.
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>438% item rarity due to tempest
>139% item quantity map

It's all rubbish but it sure is fun to get 11 uniques in a single map.
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>>171739965

>three life flasks
>not even an eternal for 2.5k/2.7 seconds

?
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What music does /poeg/ listen to while grinding?
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>>171740096

I just run Primordial Pool 24/7 so all I need is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMalSKJ39jM
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>>171740096
SPACE LOVE MAKE A MOVE THIS IS MY ATOMIC GROOVE
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First self-made 6L in nearly 3 years :)
Feels fucking good man. Not even mad if I rip after this.
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I wish this game wasn't balanced around rolling your face over your flash buttons.
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Do I sell this or use it myself?
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>>171740472
*Flask.
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>>171740493
Check the price of a key and check if you're willing to risk it for a legacy Cybil's Paw
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>>171740493
Sell it before market decides to go bearish. People are finally understanding that the legacy drops will more likely than not give something shitty
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>pack of necrovigil flame sentinels who literally don't move and shoot balls 3 screens away inside the boss room

nice mechanic
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>>171740628
>I can't carry any offering skill in my inventory
>I'm at the mercy of easily circumvented mechanics
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>>171740493
>>171740558
It's ~50 chaos. I could sure use a 6-link, but it's pretty tempting to go for a relic.
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>Remove Zana map mods and put them on stones

It's hardly a legacy league if we could enable past leagues whenever we wanted with Zana. So the real selling point of the league should have been people getting cool legacy shit, except the way it's set up only a single digit number of people will get those good items.

Then they're going to kill the league in a few weeks with 3.0 beta. Wonder what they meant by this.
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>>171740703
>It's hardly a legacy league if we could enable past leagues whenever we wanted with Zana.
It's exactly a legacy league because it enables all previous leagues and 3 of them at once. Zana only enabled 8 of them and only one at a time. Realistically people only bothered with the two most optimal ones since there was little point in say, running nemesis over bloodlines. Choosing between 3 leaguestones allows you to customize each map on top of balancing risk/reward. It's a much better system than Zana's map device, and we're talking about white leaguestones, not the good magic ones.

What did you expect from a "legacy" league? Do you go to a vegan restaurant and complain there's no meat on the menu?

>So the real selling point of the league should have been people getting cool legacy shit, except the way it's set up only a single digit number of people will get those good items.
If everyone got good items then they're not very worth the chase anymore. A lot of people are playing and they will never get good legacy unique, so it must mean the league is enjoyable on its own.

>Then they're going to kill the league in a few weeks with 3.0 beta.
Each league dies 2 month in anyway.
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what the FUCK is this shit?

this is so bad
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>>171740703

Zana could only enable one at a time, at a cost, and not all of them were even available.

It's pretty fun to stack a bunch of rippy shit together
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>>171741023
Looks like an axe.
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>>171741541
that's the legacy weapon effect

get grinding for that disappointment!
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>"mapping"
>Kill some golems minding their own business
>kill some zombies minding their own business
>Kill some snakes
This is what it must feel like being a police officer
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>>171741795
Because everyone the cops kills dindu nuffin, right? XD
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>>171741936
he didnt say everyone tho
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>>171741989
No, he implied cops just randomly kill people minding their own business.
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>>171741023
>>171741602

>doesn't have the regal/divine/exalted weapon effects

There is no point in weapon effects anymore, the you could get the best ones in open beta.
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>got 2 6L earlier in the league without even trying
>urge to gamble away all my fusings to 6L my BiS weapon is stronk as fuck
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What is the point of tempest and onslaught
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>>171742189
>onslaught
FREE IIQ
>tempest
FREE patches of [whatever the fuck kind of ground you happen to get]
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>some damage/speed on EK costs +200C
>actually insane stuff like BV/EQ/FB enchants are 15c

Besides the only 2 retards selling EK enchants, who's responsible for this? The first retard must've just put it up for 250c without a clue and the 2nd retard followed him thinking someone's actually buying them at that price.
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>>171742189
On that note, which leagues are people doing? tempests a shit
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>>171742319
i'm doing invasion and warbands talisman and perandus
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>>171742319
beyond + breach + bloodlines/nemesis/tempest
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>>171742319
perandus+bloodlines/beyond+rampager/whatever

all i want is that fucking archive chest but it simply won't spawn for me
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>be melee
>running Perandus Invasion Onslaught
>mfw almost wiped to an invasion boss hiding inside the mass of Perandus mobs
wew
>>
bet ure're not even real melee
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>>171743249
How do you mean?
>>
>>171742261

You DO know that speed on EK determines how far the projectiles travel and is insanely good right?
>>
proj speed has diminishing returns since EK nova is not a real 360 nova and the further you are from the center, the more likely you are to find yourself between the 20 proj

i.e. proj speed != aoe radius
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>>171743564
I know that I'm already running 109% speed and it covers multiple screens. Another 30% wouldn't matter at all.
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What if exalts added affixes until it was full
>>
what if youre mum kept giving birth until she had no more eggs
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>>171684916
>using flame dash

Stupid bitch needs to be shot
>>
my parents are fighting again...
i just wanna push ladder in peace
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>>171744092
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>>171741023
the supporter pack version isn't much better on everything BUT axes.
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what r ur best tessf finds /poeg/
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>>171745076
an astramentis is the best drop ive ever had
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>>171745076
The Gull
Soul Taker
Carnage Heart
3x Eye of Chayula (lol)
Belly of the Beast
2x Jeweller's Touch
7 League Step
far too many t2 uniques I can remember
7 exalts
4 divines
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>Pacifism
Literally for what purpose?
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Should I use an auto potion macro like the pros?
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>>171745325
look up ahn's heritage
really makes you think doesn't it
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>>171745382
What the fuck
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>>171745325
Scion gets perma onslaught for maximum frenzy charges with her Raider ascendancy, so it's 3 jewel slots for 20 attack speed 20 cast speed 20 ms, perma poison with snakebite's

probably not worth it mind you, but there are some other niches uses like that

otherwise it's just a troll unique
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>>171745487
Right, I guess there are a lot of builds don't use frenzy as a main attack.
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>ping 30, smooth graph
>lockstep
>yet leap slam consistently desyncs me

normal?
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>>171745076
got it with my first key. haven't received anything else worthwhile from keys since.
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>>171745604
if you're not Raider or Trickster, it can be hard to get frenzy charges reliably without running BR, which means those jewels can become interesting for bonuses on max frenzy charges
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>>171745695
but bloodrage owns

I use it in every build because I'm not a vaal pact negro
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>>171745902
not in -60 regen vuln maps
>>
but BR doesn't work against bosses
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>>171745969
thats why you use frenzy+fasterattacks+movement skill in one of your links and hit them for 0.5 seconds and then you kill them before the frenzy charges run out with your double dipping meta build
>>
really need to stop being too lazy to buy a new mouse
this unreliable mouse1 is giving me mad
>>
unironically runnning out of character slots (mules)
>>
how do i make spectral throw look good? can i weapon skin or do i have to do the skill mtx?
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>>171746724
Use the power of your shekels.
>>
Mjolner

What is your secret build with it?
>>
does crown of eyes not cause wrath to boost attack damage because wrath is "More Lightning Damage with Spells" and CoE only boosts "Spell Damage"?
>>
How does reduced DOT duration work?

Am I right to guess that if an ignite or a poison has reduced duration, that it does the same amount of damage it usually does, but over a shorter tinespan, thus technically increasing DPS?
Or is it really just less damage?
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>>171746984
No
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>>171747043
same damage, less duration

less duration gem doesn't affect ignite duration but will affect poison, this is because poison is considered a skill effect for whatever reason, while ignite is a status ailment
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>>171747043

Damage does not increase because the duration is shorter.

It's 1000 over 4 seconds vs 1000 over 4 but the 4 is cut short and so too is the damage.

One of the reasons they changed Less Duration gem - it did fucking nothing for anything but Lightning Warp. It used to not have a more damage multiplier but now it does for the reason you state.
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>>171746984
Does crown of eyes make Doryani's Fist actually useable

>>171746537
I got a new mouse when mine was failing, was so worth it.
I need a new mousepad though. The film has been worn down and now it's sort of like, sticky. Like the bottom part that's supposed to kind of stick to your desk is sort of the top part now too.
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>>171747134
>>171747137
Thanks
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how do you even sort this shit properly without having a bunch of fucking tabs
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>>171747447
there's no point in having 10 duplicates of the same base so you could vendor like half of those without any loss
>>
>he didn't buy the Premium Talisman Tab for 400 points

git outta heeya
>>
>Play Cospri's Discharge
>Trickster
>Want to switch to Assassin
>Get Elreon rings, ask someone to craft multiple mods on it
>Didn't know it was 2ex per ring
>He crafts one and tells me the price
>...
>Log off

I feel bad now. Should've looked it up before. Guess i won't change my ascendancy.
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>>171747614
but your movement skills are free why do you need mana cost rings
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>>171747447
if you want the challenge shit done, just buy a leaguestone that gives you 100% stone circles and progress with that shit - no reason to hoard that shit
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>>171747718
not him but read the 3rd line
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thats a nice map

how can joke mods give so much quant and packsize?
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>>171748542
>>>>Temporal Chains
>>>>>>>>>>nice
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>>171748880
>not being immune to tchains
lmao
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>>171748880

>not being a juggernigger or using kaoms roots
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>>171749015
>>171749018
>he's not this really niche thing
LOL!!!
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>>171749051

bet u havent even entered a shaped strand LMAO
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>>171749084
I've entered hundred buddy
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>>171735217
I will join in this "discussion". I talked about this whole thing in previous thread >>171669919. I am one of the people that did all the mentioned abuses there except for the latest one - I wasn't lucky or trying enough to find it in time. Still have entire stash tab with legacy Reaches in HC, Perandus helped me fund several 20ex+ characters week 1. Never was I even warned by GGG, these exploits also went over reddit in quite calm fashion, there were threads about it, but they didnt turn into shitstorm, cant really comment why maybe older reddit userbase was somehow more reasonable? Well anyway, I don't have any factual evidence, only my personal experience but I do believe GGG unprecedently banned this way only as form of emotional reaction. We can probably expect from now on for them to ban anyone, silently or "loudly", to quote the Chris: "There will certainly be several large internal policy changes as a result of this."
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>>171745076
Bringer Legacy with perfect rolls... not bad for my 1st key.
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So Reddit is pro auction house.

What about you? For or against?
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>>171749740
>caring about what shitcrows do in ((trade leagues))
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>trading
>not being an ssfhc GOD
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new map when
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new thread when
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>>171749787
this
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new map
>>171751090
>>171751090
>>171751090
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