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old thread >>171525149
grudgin'
Why do miner's with blasting charges let you attack a siege without building any equipment when you can't even use blasting charges to break down gates / walls?
>AI decides it can beat your army because it's a 20 stack of fucking pistoliers and the auto resolve says so
Well I mean, okay
Goblin Dabbing
>>171622072
miners/miners with blasting charges are able to destroy gates very fast using their picks if you send them to attack a gate in melee
>>171622269
but only miner's with blasting charges let you instantly siege even though the blasting charges do nothing for taking out fortifications.
Are there any mods that make the AI actually siege settlements instead of trying to just starve you out every time?
I need an Attila roll chart.
Here's a Charlemagne one in exchange.
>>171622345
A single bolt thrower also lets you do that, yet if you play the siege it wil never, ever be able to break down a gate.
Either mod it out (which might be the first step to a complete siege overhaul mod, now that I think about it), or accept that autoresolve is meant as magic to help the AI along because holy shit is the AI bad at sieges.
Trees
>>171622891
>Trees
Can March 31st get here so we can be an expansion announcement closer to an actual playable chaos experience. Actually the disorder races in general are not that great with the order factions clearly getting the love in game 1.
>>171622621
How is Charlemagne? Worth the price? More fun than normal Attila?
>>171622621
>>171622543
get a mod that makes siege equipment build faster, thats what the ai is doing most of the time
I dunno if I've played a comfier campaign.
Fuck humans, fuck dwarfs, fuck the undead, the orcs, fuck everyone. Fuck you axe wielding shits cutting and burning down MY trees. The world is going to pay. They will all feed the forest.
>>171623064
the prince of seduction is the only chaos god Worth fighting for , you cant proove me wrong
>>171623268
Yes its definitely worth the price, whether or not you think its more fun than attila will probably be based on how you like the changes to battles/the campaign. Its a very good dlc
>>171622773
That's not the issue, the issue is that miners with or without blasting charges, are only good against gates because of their pickaxes. So why on earth restrict it to m(BC) when regular does the same thing?
>>171623435
>changes to battles/the campaign
You mean other than moving the clock forward a few centuries or did they make gameplay changes?
seriously what the FUCK this isn't remotely balanced
>>171623357
Turn number?
Did you confederatre or genocide welfs
>>171623736
>worst elves are basically p2w
What else is new?
>>171623769
Turn 97, genocided welfs because I have a no confed mod and it seems to make more sense as Durthu.
>>171623736
expand your lebensraum
ZEIG HEIL MIEN TREE FUHRER
>>171623909
My what? But yeah don't worry everyone is getting the root.
those vikings got balls, sometime
>>171622621
I like the dubs challenges in this one
Why don't we have them for other roll charts?
>>171623830
You need to upgrade the Oak to be able to confederate the welfs.
>>171624051
Oh well lol. Durthu hates them anyway, right?
>>171623402
>Not being able to perform actions to please separate gods granting access to their followers and gifts
>Not being able to play it were Undivided balances it all out
>No chaos fortresses, shrines, or anything at all on the map to care about
>Attila horde implementation
just fuck me for the next year and a half or so
>>171624415
Evil Hoofy Beasties are love.
>you will never lick Isabella's smooth, hairless butthole while she makes soft moans onto her chalice
>get curious and try my own Marauder Horsemen spam
at last I truly see
>>171624571
>Not being able to set up Herdstones in the deep forest , instead use towns for it
>relying on gorebull/mino goon squads rather than numbers just like GS
>Cannot corrupt Athel Loren, Herdstones don't work there
>No benefit to burning big tree
>Have to be really damn passive until total supremacy because again...
>Attila horde implementation
>>171623304
Thank you. Thought that'd take longer, I wandered off.
GIMME SOMETHING NEW
Do Dwarves usually take ages to "grow" in terms of a settlement? Im on turn 65 or so and I just upgraded that main dwarf hold you start out with to level 5.
>>171624824
That all would be great, but you have to make sacrifices in any vidya. I like the Horde aspect myself and I imagine you can get by without minotaurs. Just move three herds of 20 ungors together and swarm stuff.
>>171624952
They get very poor growth from their main buildings, you need to go after growth actively with farms and tech.
>>171624945
Aw man, I have to start as a blob.
Oh well. Should I return to the pagan ways, or hold the true faith of Christ?
>>171624952
They have very few Growth boosts if I recall. Probably deliberately as dwarfs are a dying race.
>>171625093
Paganism is great, but you can't get a culture victory/divine triumph
posting warhammer rolling for fun
>>171624952
Rush growth tech, there's a couple boosts along the top lines you can have by about turn 30.
You can also drop points in the blue tree for a runesmith that gives growth to the province he's in without requiring him to deploy; allows you to carry him around in an army or have him do actions to invaders while still giving a province growth.
>>171625237
Very well, IN THE NAME OF ALMIGHTY GOD, I SHALL CONQUER.
>>171625035
Attila hordes are just so genuinely dis-interesting in this game. Forces you to turtle because losing a horde loses irreplaceable infrastructure which takes ages to develop into a decent fighting force.
In Attila it made sense but there are things these armies care about in this setting.
There is a reason WoC is so terrible in campaign and while Beastmen are better but the land-locked factions are overwhelmingly more popular. They have more shit to do and can actually produce new armies that are effective and not gimped trash.
>>171625595
Good luck anon
I hope the Huns don't give you too much trouble
Holy fuck an army that can challenge me
>>171625605
Looking at this picture is there ever an attempt by an army of order invade the chaos wastes?
>>171626274
In the Empire intro of Total War Warhammer, you can see the result of one such invasion.
>>171625241
rollin
>>171626274
Doesn't work out. Getting across the Sea of claws wouldn't work out, Norsca would eventually bleed you out not to mention General Winter kicking your ass and going across the Sea of Chaos would spell doom for anyone not in touch with the warp. And doom for many who are as well.
Also CA stop making everyone immune to fucking attrition.
>AoC as westphalia
>Btfo'ing franks at every turn
>allied with all the pagans
>making assloads of cash from former frankish territories
>all the pagans love me
>notice eastphalia and the danes are both led by hedonist morons
>pay them both 10k to be tributary states
neato, hopefully this counts towards the requirements for becoming the kingdom of saxony
>>171625746
>if the AI was smart
1 in a billion battle
>>171627396
Nah, it's a mod
Valuable Veterans makes things pretty interesting/goofy at times
Max rank swordsmen can go toe to toe with Chosun
Decide the fate of the old world: who eats it next?
>>171627441
Which one?
>>171627604
Tilea/Estalia. It's too untidy right now.
>>171627604
The Empire
>>171627604
Let all your provinces collapse under negative public order and see how the world changes
I felt a little bad about ganking the <400 men Todbringer had left after finally finishing Khazrak, but he should have just bent the knee. Also, Gelt wouldn't give a single golden shit about dishonour, so w/e.
>>171625241
rollan for somethin gud
>>171623304
Once more into the hell of bugs and crashes that is Attila.
>beating the franks so badly that the only thing they can do is send spies to light fires in my cities
funny, but obnoxious
>>171623304
Small start with good anvil please.
>>171628892
LEAFENSRAUM FUR DIE UBERBAUM
>>171629062
>hell of bugs and crashes that is Attila.
are you sure you aren't thinking of a different game?
>>171629062
Eh? Attila is probably the second most stable TW I've played.
What sort of endgame, general purpose army composition should I be aiming for with Vampire Counts/Vlad? Their infantry are okay in the beginning but I find once I hit midgame most of my shit crumples like paper bags. The blood knights and varghouls seem to pull their weight like crazy, at least. Any tips?
OGRES
G
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>>171625241
Please be something good.
>>171629421
What's their army comp and playstyle like?
>>171629420
Invest in wraiths. The armor piercing and physical damage reduction will do you good. Mortis Engine also a good investment.
Rock the boat!
>>171629420
I honestly hate endgame vamps, as you get so many fast units in the various cav/monsters you recruit, but your best infantry and support units are horribly slow meaning that you have a massive speed disparity
>>171629880
Whoops, forgot to rock the boat.
>>171629740
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Ogre_Kingdoms
>>171629740
Everything is monstrous outside a race of greenskin race that is so runty gobbos can even bully them
IF OUR LORD IS T'BECOME KINGSelling hovel: cheap, good condition
>>171629420
terrorgheists and anything wraithlike will do you solid.
>>171629112
...Hm. Burgundians. They seem strange. Well, they've got Germanic spear masters, so I guess they'll do.
>>171629740
an entire race of minotaurs, including cannon wielding minotaurs and minotaur cavalry
>>171625241
rolling to support tree hitler and the forest reich
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=815266198
I've heard this is a good way to help the AI get really strong armies rolling, as it gives them enough room to get the necessary synergy buildings
Anyone here tried it?
>>171630312
they're a great faction
>unique hurlers that are incredibly powerful in the early game vs unarmored targets
>shock cav w/ good bonus vs large
>dane axe wielding infantry
>incredibly strong javelins
>>171630174
It's almost harvesting season!
>>171629219
Nope. Every single time I start a campaign, around turn 20-25, the whole fucking thing crashes when I hit End Turn. Nothing fixes it, not reinstalling, not updating everything, nada. It seems like a super rare problem, though.
>>171627554
Biggest problem I have is that it makes Regiments of Renown completely useless unless you use that XP gain for RoR mod. Unfortunately that shit means all edited versions of the units go back to its original type, meaning you can't use Karak Kadrin Slayers for example because then the Dragonback slayers will be 100x shittier than normal ones
Who's recommended to start out as in EBII?
>>171630803
Fair points well made
At least a lot of RoR have special abilities on top of being high quality.
I was thinking about trying the less strong variant of Valuable Veterans, maybe 1/2 or 1/4. Enough to make unit ranks more meaningful but not so much that they turn into elites
On a side note, I had an alternative idea for RoR where instead of them being essentially just mercs you hire, you have to instead get a standard unit up to a minimum rank then transform that unit into its RoR version - that would be intredasting and never happen because I don't think the TW modding tools allow that much changery.
>>171629420
VC are pretty much "Hammer and Anvil: The Faction". You have essentially unbreakable frontline which holds good no matter how cheap, so you can invest heavily on their many many monstrous/cavalry options.
If you're talking MP, you'll want a Lord, about 8 Skellies, 1 WK, 1-2 Mortis Engines, 1-2 Blood Knights and spend the rest on whatever monster you can field. Maybe spam bats for tying down shit while the Blood Keep maniacs go to town.
On SP, you can pretty much go nuts after a while, but if you want a core army before you start printing dosh, 2 Grave Guards, 2 Corpse Carts/Mortis, a Varghulf, a Terrorgheist, 4 skellies and a few Vargheists serve me pretty well, with the rest being filler.
pretty sure I just made the game shit itself
>>171631159
If CA expands their RoR system in the expansion they should definitely take hints from Cataph's implementation of the Southern Realms RoR (Still mad he won't do it for most other factions because he "doesn't want to step on the toes" of the faggot-ass modder that does those broken retexture only RoR shit).
Unique units that the faction wouldn't normally mixed with unique (and I mean actually unique, like Leopard Company, not just recolored base units like the Sons of Sigmar).
The Manhide's Manflayers are a pretty cool example. Incredibly powerful Dark Elves, being at the same time Crossbow and Glaide Infantry and excelling at both, they get massive debuffs to speed and acceleration while in combat (they get lost in the thrill of fighting and the ones not killing stuff are busy skinning corpses) and just being around them gives your own troops a Leadership Debuff.
Also awesome is the Krieger's Cursed Company, who are undead who constantly regenerate and revive AS LONG as they're fighting something.
Pretty unique stuff that makes me wish for a rework to existing RoRs
>>171631637
look at how far away from the town the borders of the map extend
also note that the minimap has the town in the wrong spot
>>171631762
I attacked a venetian army that was outside of a city but for whatever reason the game crapped itself and came up with this weird siege map
The army I attacked deployed inside the city, and the garrison army arrived separately as reinforcements
>>171631751
>Rework of existing RoRs
Hmmm, that'd be interesting. How'd one go about doing that?
Things like the more "normal" units would be easy. The Sons of Sigmar could just get a few unique custom models in between to show the regiment fought for a long time and collected lots of loot, the Warriors of Dragonfire Pass could get dragon-themed ornaments, but what about the more high leveled ones?
I mean, what would one give to, let's say, The Tattersouls, or the Eight Peak Lunies to make them more distinct?
And if we were to add new RoRs in the style of the Manflayers and the like, what would they be? What's the lore on that?
Could we see an Empire RoR made of Orks who are so crazy they believe Gork and Mork and Sigmar are the same? Or maybe an elite unit of Human Soldiers on the Vampire Counts' payroll?
>>171631905
also notice how there isn't a settlement health indicator, despite the fact that the game is stilling giving me notifications/dialogue for setting the town on fire
>>171625746
>Eben the Ironclad
STONE COLD BADASS
So how do you get Boris for yourself? Just confed middenland? If so I'd the easiest way to do that just smack them about some first? I have no DLC BTW.
So in a co-op game my friend and I can't both be Empire, can we?
>>171632302
Just throw money at middenland every once in a while if you don't want to get into a war with them
I'm not sure if you'll actually get Boris if you don't have the beastmen DLC though
Any good mods for Attila? I've been playing Attila vanilla for a while now, and haven't noticed anything I'd desire, but I'm curious is all.
>>171633110
mod to change the office system for vanilla to the one AoC uses, where appointments are for life is neat and makes offices usable
>>171633354
>Appointments for life
Dear god I need this. The constant clickthrough is annoying. What's the name of it?
>>171625241
>>171625241
let's hope i get something fun!
What's a nice mod for TWW that would make endgame less boring and desolate, have AI armies actually consist of high tier units?
Beating the game on almost every faction on vanilla Legendary was very stale.
>>171625746
Fuck man, Eben is always a badass in all my Empire campaigns. What mod is that by chance? SFO?
>>171633534
don't remember it off the top of my head
I never used warhounds before, what is their usage? Looks good against soft ranged units but doesn't seem fast enough to get there. Do you hide them behind the line until the fight starts than roll them out on the flank?
>>171632302
Restart until their underdog.
Get a NAP with them. It helps if Nordland is also underdog since those 2 like each other so if you get the NAP with one, you get it with the other. Then wait until you're maxed out from that treaty. Be sure you're killing gobbos and beastmen and not releasing them for money. Then throw an AVERAGE gift at them. Small gifts don't stack as far as I know. Then you should be able to get defensive alliance and military access, then you wait until there's a war they're in for a sure-fire confederation. Don't know why they like to confederate the moment war breaks out, but there ya go.
It'll take a while. But honestly if you're in it just for the land it's quicker to war them. They're on the way back from Marienburg... Then you can loop down to Pissenland to the south.
>>171633807
damn it
>>171625241
Here we go!
>>171632445
You do. I don't have the Beastmen DLC and I have Boris.
>>171633894
>Pissenland
>>171633894
God
damn
it
THEY'RE
Fuck me
>>171634013
Imperial distrust rolling faggot.
Every time.
>elves have done literally nothing for 50 turns
>suddenly they declare war on me, Bretonnia, and the dwarfs
It'll be fine right?
>>171634320
it'll be... PINE... right :D
>>171625241
Oh boyo.. Rollan
Holy shit why does Beastmen infantry feel so right in many ways
>Cygor and Minotaurs with buffed charge and attack to blitzkrieg through infantry line
>follow up by bestigors encircling and annihilating all foot force
They are exactly what I wanted the Greenskin to be, ruthless meat grinder that give 0 shits about what they are up against
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=662922852&searchtext=
Anyone try this mod?
>>171634736
Tips for early game beastmen? Their morale is shit. Just sack/raze minor settlements and avoid big battles until you can recruit minis?
>>171636058
pretty much
>>171636058
Yep, get herd growth bonus anytime you can, circle between hidden, raiding and razing minor settlement. Get minos and cygor asap and you are pretty much set for bigger settlement
Alberic - lord of the elite peasants
>>171637087
Truly the /peasantperson/
Son of a bitch.
I have to demolish my Temple of Sigmar if I want demigryphs and the hysh cannon thing.
G O B L I N S
>>171636334
>>171636570
Will do lads. Made the mistake of taking on some big empire stacks early and had my line melt due to morale.
>>171637087
Reminds me of a webcomic strip where a brettonian knight promises to give a penny to a mob of peasants and watches in horror while they tear apart a chaos warband.
Fuck, if only I could find it.
Come on, guys...
>>171637087
Whoa.
Looks like a PS1 game. In a good way. It looks rad, actually. Limit your FPS to 20 and you have Warhammer Total War Fantasy 7.
>>171637209
I can only imagine how disgusted his face is at all times behind his helmet
>"Fucking plebs"
>>171638785
Yeah, it looks pretty pixelated, remind me of old games like Commandos 3. It's oddly nostalgic
>>171623402
>not worshiping a minor chaos god/daemon like be'lameme, hashut or horned rat
>>171623785
>>171623736
You guys are retarded
They WERE balanced. But playing low armor, low stamina, high attack factions requires you to not be a retard. Reddit is fully composed of retards, so they bitched and bitched until CA buffed the elves so they have too much health on top of their high attack power.
It's okay though because the inclusion of two more elf factions will balance things out by letting the elves fight for control of the world.
>>171639043
What does worshiping Hashut even get me
I get it now.
Like shooting skellies in a coffin.
>>171638653
>PULLO FORMATION
>>171639015
Does it run well on your shitty PC? I'm looking for ways to make it run better.
>>171639176
Tusks and hooves. But you don't count as a beastman because those are boons specific to hashut.
>>171639207
It's a shame this is literally the only unique spell in the entire game. Everything else is:
>do damage to mans
>buff mans
>debuff mans
>summon more mans
>>171639176
As a Dwarf: cavalry, monsters, and magic. AKA a completed roster that'll actually be fun to play.
>>171639541
Is this more a case of GW source materiel laziness or CA laziness?
>>171639632
Combination of both. The tabletop game was, by definition, a wargame, so dealing damage was always a pretty important consideration. CA are just as guilty for not taking any creative liberties with the source material, though; it wouldn't take very much to make the different spells genuinely unique.
Take Pit of Shades. That's rad as fuck and actually a unique spell that functions like no other. Every spell should be like that, with enough changes to make it legitimately different from comparable cost spells in different winds.
>you'll never be a Brettonian knight and discover that your best friend is actually a grill, after she gets wounded during battle
>you'll never keep her secret, while nursing her to health and boning the fit tomboy every night
>>171624021
thinking about doing them in the next historical rolling chart, for warhammer it's not really possible because of the amount of factions...
>>171625241
roll for what to play after finishing Nier
BARBARIANS ARE THE WORST FORT BUILDERS
Fucksakes, 8 god damn entrances? Why the hell bother even building a god damn fort at that point.
>>171639795
I'll cut them some slack. It's the first time they've tried something like this.
I'm still in shock at how good they designed this game. I mean. This is a fucking videogame.
They're good at making things look good, making things sound good, good music, good feel, good balance. Just bad pathing.
>>171640067
How else would they let in all the blood-loving horses?
>>171639894
>-50 chivalry
>>171640067
more exits for them when they sally forth!
>>171639795
>CA are just as guilty for not taking any creative liberties
No anon, CA would be legally guilty of breaking their license if they did
CA has no control over the creative side of Warhammer
>>171640256
They were allowed to add some OC donut steal units
I think the leash is a lot slacker now than it was around release
>>171640256
All they have to do is pass things by the GW representatives before they implement them. There's nothing stopping them from making spells function in unique ways whilst still staying true to the letter of the army books.
Sigmarines WHEN
>>171640303
>>171640350
I dont think you realize how this works
GWS forces everyone who uses their product to sign incredibly specific and punishing licenses on what they can and cant do, and you can be assured both GWS and CA had to spend a lot on lawyers just agreeing on the license
Any OC content that was or is going to be made would have been agreed upon literally years ago when development started and the license was made. Any new OC they would want to do would require them to redo the license which means dragging back in lawyers and restarting negotiations.
In other words; No, CA doesnt have creative liberties. They have GWS hands on their balls and if they so much as flinch GWS crushes them and snorts CAs remains like warp dust.
>>171640524
We've received confirmation from CA, multiple times, on how impressed GW are with what TWW has become, and that they've slowly been gaining more and more creative freedom with every release.
I don't think you realize just how much money this is making for GW, and if you're autistic enough to know how shitty they are as a company you'll know they value profit above every other consideration.
>>171639632
both. but the lore of fire should have a spell that makes a firery cage around a unit that has a similar effect. (stops them, but they can move out if they want, only they'll sustain damage)
some of the spells are hard to do justice, I mean purple sun looks so much worse than i'd imagine, but making a spherical pit of darkness does seem like it'd be hard to do.
While the spells that age people would probably be hard to show without their effects.
>>171639284
My PC is a potato so no, It runs like ass.
Minimum res and settings and still barely 15fps
>>171640524
new GW is a lot better than it was a couple years ago.
ever since the CEO change.
>>171640748
How long until they somehow restore WHFB? I don't really care about Age of Sigmar existing, but the fact that it replaced FB is just insulting.
>>171640669
>We've received confirmation from CA, multiple times, on how impressed GW are with what TWW has become
Yes
>and that they've slowly been gaining more and more creative freedom with every release.
No, they haven't ever stated this. And this isn't how the legal system works. Someone at CA doesnt just ask someone at GWS 'can we make flying orcs' and then someone at GWS says 'sure thing bro'. It requires both sides to bring in lawyers and the license has to be modified.
>I don't think you realize just how much money this is making for GW
A literal pittance, total licensing profits went from 1.5 to 3.3m pounds, which is nothing in comparison to their TB sales.
Dont talk about things you obvious dont understand kid.
>>171625241
rollin
>>171629740
Just imagine if every single unit you have just wants to EAT the enemy, just outright chomp them down. Now imagine those units are 10 feet tall, now imagine some of those units carry massive cannons, now imagine some of them ride 50ft tall war-animals, now imagine that they love eating the enemy so much, their head sorceror, the biggest and most magically respected boy around is A BUTCHER, A FUCKING BUTCHER THAT DRAGS AROUND A MASSIVE BOILING CAULDRON.
OGRES ARE FUCKING MENTAL.
>>171640834
Don't know, I actually managed to pick up a more expensive hobby than warhammer so i haven't really been a part of the scene.
>>171640748
That was 2 years ago and GWS has done plenty of faggotry moves since then
>>171640959
Reading ogre kingdom lore always makes me really fucking hungry. Their entire culture is just based around eating things.
>>171640964
>a more expensive hobby than warhammer
Do you collect yachts or something?
>>171641030
Thats why they get along so well with the Moots. You could be the Gordon Ramsey of chefs and the ogre would still gently jerk you off for whatever you're amazingly cooking.
>start new game
>recruit lord with appearance and trait you like
>rename him and transfer LL's units to him
>leave LL at home and play with your own duder
How many of you know this feel?
Die separatist scum
>>171641752
I don't do it enough.
I still wouldn't say no to a lord-maker.
>>171640908
I don't know what to say. You're massively, massively overthinking this.
>>171641779
Literally the first to die, every-single-game.
I almost think they're designed so you can get your foot through the door with the empire
Saw a Bret vs Vampire replay.
Christ, vampires are way too fucking strong.
>>171641062
Fabergé eggs.
>>171642049
That's cool too. Do you show off your collection?
>>171640908
I don't think they do, anon.
I think it literally IS a case of "yeah bro that sounds good, and the lore supports it."
They even invented some shit for brets.
>>171641996
their infantry is sub-par
their monstrous units are great
their casting lores are great
their cavalry is shit outside of blood knights (which are great)
no artillery or ranged units
they literally just have a handful of amazing units among what is largely garbage
>>171641752
It's a pretty fucking good feeling. Feels good when your own character builds their own legend, fighting famous faces and making an impact. Custom lord maker when?
>>171641062
Nah I learned how to fly planes.
>Chaos, Undead and Beastmen have dogs
>Empire, Welves and Brets don't.
BUTWHY?!
>>171642137
I'm thinking more the fact that they can just vomit out a fatass unit of blockers to spoil charges/pin down valuable units. That, and terror ruining morale.
>>171642201
Because small, but vicious dogs are all reserved by adventurers.
>>171642289
is that canon?
>>171642289
Lucky rat catchers.
>Manfred attacks The Moot with level 1 guardhouse.
>Lose
>Lose
>Lose
>Savescum some more.
>"Oh yeah, I'll hire a lord and get the tattered souls and sigmar's sons.
>He brings Kemmlers army too
Fuck I'll save scum the fuck out of this yet. You don't even know, game. I'll unbuy every building and have an RoR army you fucking fucks.
>>171642201
I could never figure out how to use dogs in Rome.
What the fuck are they for? Do I flank with them? Launch them at lightly armored units. Launch them at heavy armor before my line gets there?
I don't fucking get it.
I mean I do in real life. A Spanish Mastiff probably weighed more than any Native Americans. That's probably why Balboa's half Mastiff, half Greyhound earned the pay of a lieutenant.
>>171642339
Well, no, I just made a reference to a particular WHRPG character class called rat catcher who has a small, but vicious dog as a companion.
Huehuehue
>when you win a battle that you, for a moment, were convinced you were going to lose
Is a there a better feel in all of Total War?
>>171642201
>>171642289
>tfw no loyal little Empire dog
>>171642339
no, brets have hunting dogs, and truffle dogs the latter is the more vicious. but they were never used in units since peasants work just as well. and are less valuable.
>>171642751
yeah winning one of those battles by the skin of your teeth and with a heroic effort from your general.
>waging a giant war against both vampire factions
>Wissenland breaks their trade with me
well that's alright I guess
>two turns later they break the NAP
well I suppose that's alright, I'll send them this gift to be sure
>chaos spawns
>vampires are on the cusp of defeat
>WISSENLAND HAS DECLARED WAR
CHAOS IS LITERALLY ON OUR DOORSTEP AND WE'RE ABOUT TO BE RID OF VAMPIRES FOREVER, WHAT ARE YOU DOING?
>>171643324
Its all too realistic in brettonia that a dog could outrank about 100 human peasants, a dog of noble breed could probably even COMMAND 100 peasants
So how are there still nobles in brettonia? What I mean is how do they keep up their numbers they die in droves adventuring and in war and in the one in a billion peasants that get made into nobles their children just go on to being peasants anyway.
>>171642483
Personally i use dogs in games to be mixed amon normal troops as well as being made to run around the enemy forces and ripping the shit out of artillery, and the greatest thing is that its not worth wasting cavalries time on stopping me, MWUHAHA
>>171643545
They run away from fights, like, ALOT!
And have the freedom to pick and choose fights, or hire mercs if they're feeling not upto it.
>>171643545
Same way they did in real life. They had as many kids as possible and remarried when the wives died in childbirth. Meant that men could keep spawning children into old age.
>>171643629
>Brettonia knight runs into ogre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYFefppqEtE
>>171643545
1% of 5 million odd people is still a shit ton of people anon
>>171643457
yes
>>171642483
The demolish archers and artillery faster than normal cav and they get there faster than normal cav because they're usually the fastest units in the game.
Amazing for chasing down routing strong units so they never come back too.
>>171643895
>>171643943
Mans best friend for a reason.
I feel like we're gonna need them when skaven get here.
>>171643629
>or hire mercs if they're feeling not upto it.
Bretonnia is literally the only faction that didn't allow mercs
>They run away from fights, like, ALOT!
no they don't if they run they lose the blessing which only makes things worse
>And have the freedom to pick and choose fights
Literally the only right answer. and that's the magic of cavalry.
>>171644015
Sorry, "Shepherds" if ya wanna get anal. Maybe not the running then
Why is Lileath such a manipulating bitch?
>>171643375
This is me with fucking Averheim.
Their armies can't walk around their own lands without suffering attrition because the vampire corruption has gotten so bad. The endless tide of undeath is spilling out across the realm and I've had to fight devastating Pyrrhic battles with Averheim, who has somehow not declared war on any of the vampires but is at war with every Empire province.
>it's a chaos stack suicides itself into your best army because it thinks it's shit units are good for some reason episode
>>171643943
I see, I see.
>>171643568
This is also a good idea.
>Waste your time fighting dogs, or do something else while getting killed by dogs.
I mean, it's not like you're ever strapped for cash in the campaign, but...
>>171643457
Remember that thing about a good horse being worth how many serfs in Russia.
>>171643375
>Not securing the distrusting count first.
It's first grade, Spongebob. Reikland, Marienburg, beastmen, quest, wasteland, Wissenland, confederate whoever isn't actively getting their shit pushed i.
CHARIOTS desu
>>171644620
Not all games go as squeaky-easy smooth on Legendary anon
>>171644671
>Kraka Drak with 3 stacks
what devilry is this
>CA made the dukedom of drunkards a separate faction instead of Bastonne, the heart of Brettonia, a dukedom ruled by a direct descendant of Gilles le Breton
>assembling a stack of 20 demigryphs on legendary
This...
This is POWER
I've been playing total warhammer for like 80 hours and I just realized that the purple things in the trait tree are the available quest battles
I thought they were passive stats or some shit
>>171644671
pyrrhic/close victories with chaos are so dumb, at worst you still have 50% of your army left
>>171645851
>not 19 tanks
>>171646108
I said power. not memes
>>171625241
roll
>>171625241
rolling for the BEST character in the game
why is everyone afraid of Morghur? He looks more friendly than the other beastmen.
>>171625241
I do not possess silly little miniatures
This is just shameful
I'm new to warhammer but did GW really do this
>kill warhammer fantasy and release the license to everyone
>replace it with a shitheap that failed
>later numerous warhammer fantasy games appear and the popularity of the franchise skyrockets while the tabletop is dead
>>171646453
Because he's like chaos and stuff
>>171646515
>hates and fears bar-bars
>is a bar-bar
Sounds like the human condition alright.
>>171646515
It's more common than you think
>hates white/black people
>fears white/black people
>>171646553
>release the license to everyone
No, they still have exclusive rights to it.
>replace it with a shitheap that failed
Yes
>>171646553
>later numerous warhammer fantasy games appear and the popularity of the franchise skyrockets while the tabletop is dead
No
239th for Memri
>>171645476
I had kraka drak the norse dwarves mod installed, I think it buffs their economy
>>171646918
don't just spam memri-pics, you will only diminish their value
>>171647000
Fuck youbut I can't argue with those trips
Late Bronze Age Total War when?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRcu-ysocX4
>>171647000
>>171646918
I'm gonna keep posting this one until it's completely dead.
>>171647246
Mmm yes plz.
>>171646675
white/black people are just the worst
>>171647246
Sea People
Sea People
Taste like crabs
Talk like people
>>171640959
>>171629740
AND NOW imagine that their GOD is a living giant maw , who came from the SPACE.
and it's supposed to be aTyranidthat crashed and mindcontroled the closest lifeforms to be fucking hungry
Do you think they'll release better modding tools once the trilogy is complete?
>>171648018
its also likely that its just a massive asteroid that crashed into their land (probably summoned by Cathay mages) and that the ogres overreacted to it thinking it is a god , and because of that the great maw as manifested itself into the warp
>>171648273
But why the hunger? Space tapeworms?
At the end of the campaign, Chaos is defeated and the Age of Peace has settled, now you need to drive the blade home and claim the Old World. The Empire is pretty bloated, the Von Carstein dynasty is no more, Brettonnia has lost quite a bit of ground to Athel Loren, Estalia is probably no more, the Border Princes are a single city nervously shuffling closer to Tilea and the Dwarfs have of course won the Badlands bowl. Who goes out first? In this case I'm the empire, I'm thinking about clearing out Bretonnia and Athel Loren first before squaring up against the Dwarfs that control half the map.
>>171648416
the ogres before the great maw crashed where always eating all the time and raiding , all it did was making them have even more reason to eat things
>>171648416
>>171648459
A giant comet that glows and burrows its way through the earth on impact. At both ends, it sports a giant crater-mouth. One in the ogre mountains, the other in the sea (whirlpool style). Also, it fills the ogres minds with bloodlust and hunger (hive mind and synapse) and drives them to consume the world.
>>171648556
>>171648459
>>171648018
do other races know about great maw?
it could not be a chaos god itself? not a lorefag
>>171646453
Sitting next to him makes your dick fly off.
Also he cant die.
>>171644524
Thats why i need MORE dogs, im hoping skaven have lil rats or rathounds.
>>171648726
i dont think so , only the ogres workship it , maybe Cathay know about it , since they are in a war with the ogres since millenias
>>171648726
It's just a giant Warpstone comet that crashed into the Ogre Kingdom, wiped out two thirds of their population and rendered the steppes around it barren and inhospitable. The surviving Ogres became migratory and they already had huge appetites and they became cannibalistic, eating smaller weaker Ogres as well as people in order to survive. People just love the retconned bit of bait from the 80s/90s that the Warhammer World is a world in the Eye of Terror and Sigmar is a lost Primarch or that the 40k Universe exists in a glass bottle in the Wizards College of Altdorf.
That said, it's possible it might have some relation to the Chaos Gods akin to the Horned Rat, who is a distant cousin of sorts and shares a lot of the Domains of the Chaos Gods, but gets very angry if you think or say that.
>>171648726
Its not a chaos god as far as we know, and probably, but its near impossible to travel to.
>>171625241
rollan
>>171648896
>the 40k universe exist exist in a glass bottle in the wizard college of altdorf
holy shit , did they did that ?
>>171648454
Elves and Brets at the same time
Then the slog of clearing shortscum from the mountains and the badlands
>>171627773
>>171633670
Sorry for the late reply dude alcohol lmao
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200
>>171648967
Old Warhammer was pretty goofy and most of the funny stuff got retconned a while ago, but it's still amusing to think about
>>171648967
I believe it was a throwaway line with the implication that it was a "world much like their own, grander in size and scale". It's been a long time and it was just a little teaser of a line, the stuff that exists to be thrown out of proportion, like the Great Maw being Tyranids, Horned Rat being a Chaos God, Old Ones, Warpstone=Warp when really, Games Workshop just made two game lines and reused a lot of names. Elves in Fantasy =/= Elves in space!
>>171646918
>>171647000
Damn, muslims are truly barbarians, pretty sad and pathetic
>>171649080
Total War: The Simpsons when
>>171647246
One thing we know about the next historical title is that it involves various "personalities", in the same vein as Attila and Napoleon. That rules out bronze age warfare because there honestly aren't any notable personalities.
Today is the day?
>>171625746
Fuck, now that's a solid treeman killing army
>Chariots have been shit since release
>CA finally makes them good
>Now people bitch they are good
Fuck you /twg/ chariots FOR LYFE
>>171649873
question
are the expensive chaos chariots shit?
>>171649873
they are way too fucking durable
>>171649873
Did the patch actually change chariots?
I thought that was out with the Elves.
Most of the complaints you see are like twelve chaos chariots the AI uses against empire virgin playthroughs
>>171649390
I was gonna specify that exact line.
Thee kangdoms confirmed.
>>171650080
No they are pretty good, all the chariots are now.
Lots of micro though, as well as knowing how to charge and pull through units properly without being stuck in mass.
Charging head on to a wall of pikes, or sideways down a line isnt going to be very effective, but hitting from behind or across a single unit can wipe them out pretty hard.
Even the goblin chariots are pretty great, you can steam roll a whole archer unit if you hit it from the side taking down 1/4 of its health.
>>171650274
They absolutely melt to ranged or anti large, like they should, and against massive blobs of them like chaos does you can just box up and watch them all get stuck and die.
The first game had four base factions and four DLC factions.
The sequel will probably also have four base factions (probably High Elves, Dark Elves, Lizardmen and Skaven) and four DLC factions.
Which four factions will be DLC?
>>171650393
KANGZ and OGRES
>>171649436
kek
>>171650393
I think the DLC front might be a bit different as by adding four factions they would run out of main factions for the third release.
It's also really hard to guess depending on how they handle the grand campaign, if they do tack the new world on to the old(assuming first expansion is the new world, but that's a pretty safe assumption).
Kangz and Ogres seem like obvious picks, but only if there is a united campaign. Otherwise they would be more old world DLC.
Original plan seemed to be chaos themed last expansion and that is still kinda the only thing that makes sense for that.
>>171650779
Leak highlighted the fact that the third release won't involve army books. Chaos is being split in to four distinct factions, as opposed to just Warriors/Daemons/Beastmen. They could easily fill out the roster in the second game to prepare it for four filled out Chaos factions in the third.
>>171650779
I remember reading an interview where CA said that the final game would be inside the Realm of Chaos itself.
>>171650393
I wanna say Tombkings, cus the luzardmen can tag along from not africa aswell as high elves, so maybe new units and lords there, aaaaaaand.. chaos dwarves and ogres for us to go east with..? If not maybe a chunky Tilea/BP/Estallia dlc pack.
>>171650852
The calm before the storm.
>Get everyone used to fighting normal mortal battles with their favourite faction before shitting on everything with new daemons and their mechanics, the world in flames.
>>171651054
>maybe a chunky Tilea/BP/Estallia dlc pack
Tilea deserves crazy da Vinci inspired units.
>>171651208
We could see those flying dogs of war
>>171650857
Could you find a source? The original outdated leak did say that the last release would be daemons but that is outdated as I just said, and realm of chaos seems like a poor idea for an entire expansion.
>>171650852
Which leak was this one?
If Daemons are released in the last patch then there will obviously be an armybook.
A roster for each god would be pretty lackluster for an entire release.
Unless it's half price and a third the size as the first and second releases it wouldn't work.
It would also be more than four factions.
>>171651425
Depends if they invent new units again.
>>171651425
The very first Russian leak that's completely outdated now since CA have said the game was much more successful than they expected it to be and have revised their road plan accordingly.
BUT, it's still pretty clear they were always planning for a big Chaos blow-out for the third game. That won't have changed. If anything they're just going to make it bigger.
>>171651314
That would be cool, but I think they should expand on the idea of implementing da Vinci's designs to give them a unique roster.
>>171651425
>A roster for each god would be pretty lackluster for an entire release.
>>171651425
>Chaos Warriors aren’t the same as Chaos Daemons; we are treating them as separate, just like the tabletop army books. Later on in the trilogy, you will be exposed to the full horrors of the Realm of Chaos.
https://forums.totalwar.com/discussion/164869/total-war-warhammer-dev-blog-chaos-warriors-pre-orders-and-dlc
>>171651208
>>171651603
No fair, Tilea gets all the cool stuff. What do Border Princes and Estalia get?
>>171650852
>Leak highlighted the fact that the third release won't involve army books.
Daemons have a book you utter pleb, the four factions are the four gods of Chaos which is splitting up a book, but they never said they were doing non-book factions.
>>171651630
Compared to four very distinct factions which share zero units with one another(could argue a tiny exception with high/dark elves though):
A single armybook of daemons split in four with duplicate warriors of chaos units with minor graphical detail is far less content.
Don't get me wrong, it would be good; but it sure as fuck wouldn't be near what the first and second games provide.
>>171651658
That just confirms an obvious roster split between warriors and daemons.
Last sentence refers to making sure they flesh out the daemons in general, not that you will be visiting where they come from.
>>171651670
Estalia gets conquistadors and outposts in Lustria.
Border Princes aren't a faction.
>>171650393
Tomb Kings, Chaos Dwarfs and Ogres, in that order.
From a geographical perspective it don't make sense to add Ogres before Chaos Dwarfs.
>Constantinople falls to the Turks
>Pope allies with the Moors
>mfw
>>171651790
>minor graphical detail is
You making assumptions
There is no reason why they cant flavor the four daemon factions with traits from their gods to make each unique
Everyone also should realize the third expansion isnt going to be coming out for 3 to 4 years, hardly anyone will be caring about TWW since we will have the next historical title by then and the best bits (mainly lizardmen) would have already come out.
>>171651670
>Border Princes and Estalia
The Border Princes are home to bandits, mercenaries and pirates. They're also known for a mix of different races, so you could perhaps field dwarfs alongside humans.
Estalia could have conquistadors and the inquisition.
>>171651208
The minor factions really do deserve a little bit of fleshing out or reskinning. It's pretty ez money for them if they do it. Human models + a couple of specialty units.
Kislev, Border princes, Araby, Estalia, Tilea, Amazons + some of the empire subfactions
I'm thinking we'll have Tomb Kangz and exptra map space as the first DLC major for the expansion. An Araby + Estalia minor double pack could work, rivalry there. and brettonia can have their crusades.
It makes sense to just lump in the Syrian stunties with the Chaos expansion + have to ogres as a major DLC for those guaranteed purchases. Flesh out the norscans with this expansion too.
What will really blindside us is if the release for the upcoming expansion isn't helves, delves, lizards and skaven. That'll mean they've changed up plans entirely.
Im so goyed up for all this DLC.
>>171651902
>Trusting the Pope
First mistake
So, the Savage Orcs.
What the fuck am I supposed to do as them besides mash out the same 3-4 units for every army. Like, what's an endgame army as them, I see them get wiped out by the Greenskins in almost every one of my campaigns and I'm looking to try them out.
>>171651902
Sounds like something a Catholic would do.
>>171651904
Yes, I'm making assumptions. They would still have to go really far and make every non daemon unit as distinct as say noise-marines are from plague-marines. And even then it'd still fall short.
Your timeline is off, probably won't be that long. Especially if it is a smaller release than the second game.
The meme fantasy vs historical arguement means that there will be longevity even when other games come out.
But yes my point is along the vein that it can't just be disappointing daemons or they'll lose all momentum.
I still feel that a big end times sort of deal would work best for the last expansion.
>>171651916
Inqusition is Tilean.
>>171651981
Border Princes aren't their own distinct thing beyond being a pure mixed bag as somebody said. They should be split up and have really diverse area of recruitment.
Amazons have fuckall, as much as that disappoints the waifukids.
Disregarding gameplay, just in terms of aesthetics, description, personality, quest details and all that, who are your favorite legendary lords for each faction?
Gelt > Volkmar > Karl
Ungrim > Grombrindal > Belegar > Thorgrim
Vlad > Isabella > Mannfred > Kemmler > Ghorst
Skarsnik > Azhag > Grimgor > Wurrzag
Kholek > Sigvald > Archaon
Louen > Fay > Alberic
Orion > Durthu
Malagor > Morghur > Khazrak
>>171642049
Total war faberge when?
>>171652253
> Ungrim > Grombrindal > Belegar > Thorgrim
> Gelt > Volkmar > Karl
How's that shit taste working out for ya?
>>171652253
Gelt > Karl >>>>>>>>>>>>> Volkmar
Pure filth >>>>>>> generic stuntie > ungrim > thorgrim > grombrindal >>>>>>>>>>> beggar nohammer
Vlad > Manlet > Kemmler > Ghorst > Isabella
Grimgor > Snarsnik >>>>>>>>> Azhag > Wurrzag
Archaon > Sigvald > Kholek
Alberic > Louen > Morgana
Durthu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orion
Malagor > Khazrak >>>>>>>>> Morghur
>>171652085
Savage variants swap armour for Frenzy and a 30% reduction to incoming melee damage
They don't have any defence against missiles as a result
After the early going though you'll be recruiting the same kinds of high level units as with Greenskins
>>171652253
Shit taste.
>>171652253
Gelt = Volkmar >False Emperor Karl
Don't find any of the dwarfs particularly interesting
Mannfred >Vlad > Kemmler > Isabella> Ghorst
Wurrzag > Skarsnik > Grimgor > Azhag
Kholek > Sigvald = Archaon
Alberic > Fay > Louen
Durthu > Orion
Khazrak > Morghur > Malagor
Pretty disappointed in the Chaos lords in particular. Wanted Wulfrik the Wanderer or Egil Styrbjorn
>>171652919
[shit taste intensifies]
>>171652253
My Top 5
Gelt
Skarsnik
Vlad
Wurrzag
Sigvald
Gelt makes it to the top because of his voice and battle speeches
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isxvXITTLLY
>>171652253
>just in terms of aesthetics, description, personality
Gelt > KFC > Volkmar
Belegar > Grombrindal > Ungrim > Lardgrim Fudgebearer
Vlad > Isabella > Kemmler > Mannfred > Ghorst
Skarsnik > Wurrzag > Grimgor > Azhag
Sigvald > Kholek > Archaon
Fay > Louen > Alberic
Durthu > Orion
Malagor > Morghur > Khazrak
>>171652085
This was my basic army composition as savage orcs in my legendary campaign, which I completed yesterday. Take note that savage orcs recover a lot faster than normal orcs, hence lack of black orcs in the front line of my army. Other than faster recovery savage orcs aren't necessarily better or worse than the normal ones, they just have different tactical roles, being better suited to charging in and doing big deeps, but being less tough in a prolonged battle - not only they lack armour, but their morale is also slightly lower than other orc units.
Also I preferred using them because their recruiting building only requires 3 levels and gives you boar boys without requiring a separate building.
Bloody Handz usually get absorbed by Greenskins because they start in a pretty shit position and towns within their core region are contested between several factions, all of them capable of sniping those towns from under your nose. There's no worse feeling than seeing your enemy confederate with Greenskins while you are sieging down his last town.
Also they don't have that sweet gold mine that Grimgor gets.
Hope you slaves are ready for the inevitable BIG DAWI ZHARR COCK.
>>171653552
>BIG DAWI ZHARR COCK.
For a Snotling maybe
>>171653612
>Implying
>>171653552
>Big cock (for a dwarf)
>>171653552
>Hey, we are trying to use orcs as slaves, but they constantly rebel, what should we do?
>We're gonna create a breed of stronger, more intelligent orcs (who are still just as passionate about war), what could possibly go wrong?
>>171653504
>>171652929
>Start out that sick Wurzaag playthrough
>Turn 7, check to see if any nearby orcs want to Confederate
>Bloody Handz do, I assume because Grimgor is giving them the hard orc dicking
>Turns out the Greenskins are getting fucked, and now I'm the most powerful force in the world
Well shit, time to sweep the badlands.
>>171653660
>prep the Orc
Why are Evil Manlets the worst Warhammer race?
>>171653770
>AAAAAGH SAVE ME THORGRIM
>Free Company Militia
>They aren't free
>>171653925
>Start out that sick Wurzaag playthrough
>Confederate Bloody Handz
????
>it's an endless skaeling stack party in the ocean but if you go north to raze their shit the chaos stacks will come
>>171653770
In the early lore it was the Chaos Dwarfs who were responsible for giving metal working technology to the Greenskins that allowed them to evolve past Savage Orc/Forest Goblin primitivism and in turn overrun the Dwarven empire.
>>171653552
>>171654094
>play wood elves
>no attrition from snow or chaos
>their settlements are colonizable
>the entire world will suck your dick for wiping the floor with them
>mfw
>>171654084
Maybe he meant Bloody Nose
>>171654224
No attrition was a mistake.
>ITT: Butthurt slaves
While you're getting slaughtered in the frontline I'm chilling back here on my artillery piece, watching the fireworks.
>>171654084
>Bloody Handz
Whoops, I meant those fucks who spawn under Grimgor.
>>171654240
Yep. I don't remember any fucking faction in this game.
>>171653552
>9
>>171654301
I agree and soon every faction will be immune to all attrition because CA thinks that will help make factions unique.
Stop it
>>171654327
well for fuck sake I didn't know you could be attacked or attack armies at sea (presumably only if they're along the coast?)
bring on the 3v1 gangbang
>>171625241
go go go
>>171654441
What next? You're gonna post your hella epic KEK DWARF memepasta?
Get back in line or taste the lash.
>>171654328
Hey watch your language there, this is a T for Teen game
Are "White Huns" Khitani?
>>171654548
Hephthalites.
>>171654520
American morals are curious, aren't they?
>>171654825
Is that what Pamela Anderson had?
>>171654520
>ar*e
>>171654520
>Murricans
>>171653770
>When you're such cunnin' gits that you save the stunties by backstabbing the black orcs in da final push of the uprising you helped start.
Hobgoblins truly are the greatest ally
Just picked up Charlemagne tonight and maybe I'm a minority but I greatly prefer the "artistic" troop icons in the army roster from Rome 2 and Charlemagne over the "real" ones like in normal Attila.
>>171655058
>I'm a minority
Regarding R2, yes.
Regarding AoC, no, nearly everyone loves the Charlemagne art
>>171655035
Do Hobgoblins worship Gork and Mork?
>>171655058
The ones in R2 suck because they are too simple and minimalistic
>>171654516
Hey, you know what would really help us Dawi Zharr? If we made a new breed of orcs that's smart enough to use and create more complicated machinery and weapons. We could make them operate our artillery, make new guns and so on. We'll call them "Meks".
What could possibly go wrong?
>>171655058
Rome 2: Zero Aesthetic Charm
Attila: Everyone Looks Kinda Samey Anyway, It's A Period Problem
Tomb Kangs and Dark Elves confirmed for best friends
>>171655393
The fuck is this, end times shit?
>>171655058
I think the Rome 2 ones didn't look very good. I could bearly tell apart the various roman legionnaire types. Shogun 2 and Charlemagne unit cards look great though.
>>171655151
>>171655198
>>171655324
Interesting, as I think the Rome 2 ones look Romanesque so it works for me.
Either way I think the icon just is more easily identifiable.
>>171655314
Sounds like a flawless plan to me!
>>171651902
False prophet confirmed, exterminate both he pope and the turks
I want to be dominated by a best elf!
Can anyone give me a basic gestalt on Warhammer hobgoblins? Who are they? What's their end game? They aren't hobs, they aren't goblins, what the hell are they?
>>171655883
>gestalt
wtf is that word's meaning compared to the german 'Gestalt'
BORDER PRINCES WHEN
>>171655163
I don't know anon, I'm wonderin the same about gnoblars
Hobgoblins seem pretty morky but not particularly gorky. And the ones that serve under the chaos stunties would be under the thumb of hashut worship i'd imagine.
Gnoblars probably worship the ogres that they serve, pretty spineless fellas.
>>171656254
never ever
So I attacked this town while the army was just out at sea, so they added to the battle but started at sea. I charged in a took the town, now they're just sitting out there.
Am I going to lose by default once time runs out (as I'm attacking)? What happened to a win timer once you captured the victory points?
Beastmen herd status:
[X] 4 minotaurs
[X] 2 cygors with constant attack and defense buffs
[X] speed and attack buff from research tree
[X] vigor drain reduction lv 3
[X] even more damage buff from Lord's herd
Rape Train status
[X] HIGH MASS
[X] FULL SPEED
[X] NO BRAKE
>>171654075
>Quarrelers
>They're agreeable
>>171655449
Yes anon, The Endof July 1995.
>>171654075
>Bestigors
>Actually the Worstigors when it comes to cost-effectiveness
So friends?! What future units are you excited and hoping for from the expansion and its mighty dlcs? What is your unit that you think "YES, THATS MY JAM"?
Dawi Zarr need not apply.
>tilia, estalia, and border princes are these irrelevant faggots in the fluff
>without fail, unless I'm chaos or beastmen, 2/3 of these faggots will join me as the world's last remaining superpowers
>sometimes all three are alive
Unless the beastmen go full X-files and poop on all of not-Spain to death I have this ugly smear of piss, orange, or milk on my campaign map where actually iconic forces used to live.
>>171656936
Those party hats will never not look stupid
>>171657135
Despite their leadership i swear those fuckers run more than ungors do.
>>171655393
>ultimate oblivion
>>171657204
Seeing minotaurs do the commando roll when charging at an enemy instantly put them at the top of my unit list.
The Bretonnia Bump
>>171657304
Theres not much down there to challenge them. Not till tomb kings anyway.
>>171657403
Yet Still Mixed
>Chaos shows up
>game becomes an auto-resolve fest
>>171657403
More like
The 50% off bump
>>171657539
Mostly butt hurt third-worlders who can't even speak english.
>>171657568
the 80% off on humble bundle
>>171657543
I love fighting Chaos
>>171657304
Nazi Elves usually genocide not-Spain in my campaigns.
>>171654075
>Greatswords
>they're okay
>>171655883
A subrace of greenskin universally hated by their other 3 brothers for betraying them in the greenskin uprising from chaos dwarf enslavement. Naturally theres no ork alive that remembers that time and orks have no written history so its insinctively engrained Into them that HOBS IS BAD.
>when you lose 2000 gits doin it but you murder Thorim memebeard and Belegar nohammer and their RoR spam in the same battle to secure the western mountains
fuck stunties right in there hairy little arseholes
>>171655794
How will Morathi be implemented in game:
>True to the lore Slaaneshi consort trying to use and outplay the Chaos God
Or will CA puss-out and go with:
>Retcon Hekarti/Atharti accolyte who probably doesn't even bang her own son
Kingtunnels
Ratways
Skinkpaths
>>171657960
And the underground railroad
>>171658053
muh synths
>>171656847
Do you use any cav?
>>171656847
how many gorebulls
Why is that I never managed to see daemons of chaos armies on the TT? There is a GW shop in nearby , been there few times and never seen anyone using them.
Also I don't see them that popular on the yt-tt-videos. Do they have unique unit roster for each chaos god?
How do they play? Whats their army strenghts? Also I hope they will be a non-horde race.
>>171657204
Hydra attack animations should be top-tier. CA invest a lot of budget in models and animation, a five headed hydra going ham in attack might rival Great Eagles for best visuals.
>>171658440
In TWW they will have a high physical resistance and ward saves, making units that deal magic damage (which bypasses physical resistance) the new hotness as counters, dethroning AP units as king.
>>171658295
Just 2 basic centi to chase down runners
>>171658386
Shit, I meant 2 Gorebulls with charge and defense boost. I do have 2 Cygors though, nothing beats horsefuckers who kite my troop from afar getting surprise sky-crashing rocks right in the faces
The rest are Bestigors, archer gor
dorfs
Are you fine with AoS TWW if all WFB content is depleted?
>>171658469
I understand that "fairness" means the eagles have to land and attack, but it would be cool if Eagles instead stayed flying and just swooped in to pick up victims and such
>>171658830
Fuck no.
>>171658830
I like the idea of a "remix" of all the elements of WHFB, but AoS is so unstructured and weak as a setting.
Stop playing fantasy
>>171659215
whata boring faction is this? tilea?
>>171659215
Attila is scary though. I tried a bit r-really. Is there a fun plenty-of-battles faction?
>>171659378
WRE, legendary, this is total war final destination desu
>>171659215
...and start playing sci-fi
DLC07 + Old Friend incoming
sega_qa is up now, they've got a playable build of whatever's coming next.
Announcement within the next few weeks, possibly at EGX Rezzed but don't hold your breath.
>>171659459
Every campaign I played I told myself I'd do that next, but in the end I couldn't. Declining tech triggers my builder autism.
>>171659487
My primary mum works at Creative Assembly Sofia and she says that Old Friend will be revealed for EGX and release that very same week, and EGX will also have a very short teaser of Total War: Warhammer: The New World (tm)
>>171659554
use a mod that disables that
>>171658852
Yeah, unless pinned by a high mass creature that could knock it back to ground as it tried to swoop/fly. CW tweaked the game so the eagle swoop animations fire more often, if it triggered even more against infantry then it'd be de facto what you're suggesting.
>>171659487
Please be Ludwig Schwarzhelm LL
>>171659570
grace said no announcements at egx, just a discussion on the future so nope.
are luminarks actually any good at sniping lords/big units?
>>171659583
But that feels like cheating
>>171625241
rolling
>>171659638
>tfw Grace ruins everything
>>171659638
Just Shoot Me!
>>171659594
Hey yeah fair point. Might dig around and see what it looks like if I mod Eagles to only use that attack
>>171625241
No more chaos pls
>>171657204
Witch Elves and the Blood Cauldron: War Dancers on steroids with a support chariot.
The Lizardmen's big dinosaur units on the charge will be great. Be interesting to see how Cold Ones are animated, hope they go full Jurassic Park velociraptor.
>>171625241
rollan
>>171659821
If they do justice to the Cold Ones they same way they did with Minotaurs, I'll be super chuffed
>>171648416
IIRC lore gives that the old ones were making them to combat chaos but didn't manage to work out all the kinks of making a being big and strong and decently smart, IE hunger, before shit hit the fan.
>>171659570
>>171659638
There's not going to be any reveal of the sequel until after Dawn of War 3 comes out.
SEGA/CA does the whole reveal then pre-order thing at the same time. They aren't going to step on DoW3's April release in any way.
>>171660034
Dawn of War 3? Isn't that some mobile game?
>>171660075
even worse
Just realize I can minimize the game window to reduce load on gpu
>>171660126
but anon you need to see the game to play the game
>>171660201
>he doesnt play the game from taskbar preview
I want to play some good ole antiquity battles again.
which mods get you the closest to europa barbarorum with rome 2?
or is that pos abandonded?
>>171660075
It's a paid mod for Starcraft 2.
>>171660586
That's actually kinda accurate and it hurts so bad.
Any worthwhile mods for Attila?
>>171621771
can someone give me a quick rundown for how to play the Wood Elf DLC map with Orion in hardest difficulty?
>elven missile units spread out so ridiculously far that cavalry AI can't handle it
simply epic
Chaos Dwarfs and Orcs confirmed for best friends. Why can't normal Dawi learn to get along?
Dawi Zharr might worship Chaos, but at least they aren't rude.
>conquering a whole faction in attila
>*throat singing intensifies*
>>171660681
It's a shame. But hey, we still have DoW 1, its expansions and mods, Space Marine, Battlefleet Gothic and Deathwingor at least we will once Streum sorts out the fucking performance problems
>>171661362
Chaos Dwarf and Greenskin alliance wiping out elves when?
>>171661368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qx8hrhBZJ98
>>171661515
that image
GAUL'D
>>171641752
>Tfw i just want to have my own customizable empire with lords armies and policies.
>>171661515
theme music for fucking up Attila's shitty horde with Masketta Jews
But really, as a Warhammer babby, what's a good simple and fun faction in Attila to start with? The less campaign level machinations and more battle level hijinx, the better.
>>171660075
Reminder that R1 is literally a tablet game
>>171661515
Is this the new Asterix?
>>171661441
The mods for DoW 1 are so choice, but I seem to be the only person who liked DoW II.
>>171661362
>making peace with greenshits
GRUUUUUDGE
>>171662136
i Wonder with so many grudges , do they have several books ? or do they add like new pages to write on each time they fill a book totally ?
>>171662084
I enjoyed the DoW 2 campaign for what it was
I never play multiplayer though, an I ended up feeling like I was missing out on a lot
I remember vs AI skirmish being really shit in DoW 2 compared to DoW 1
>>171662136
go back2 tunnel stuntie
spiky stunties are are way better
>>171662084
I found a lot to like about DoW 2 but the fact that you, at most, control 14 Marines and a Dreadnought in most missions is a significant problem for me. DoW 1 battles werent exactly titanic in size or anything but they still felt more fun to me than DoW 2s. Retribution fixed that somewhat, though.
Still, I'd take 2 any day over what I've seen of 3.
>>171661441
and for fantasy we have : blood bowl , mordheim , TWW and vermintide
also for 40k i play the sames but with Armageddon added
>>171662375
Why is Skarsnik so cruel to others?
>>171662259
Personal Books<Hold Books<Clan Books<Great Book of Grudges
The Great Big Book of Grudges is like a TARDIS
>>171662335
That would explain it, I don't really play a lot of multiplayer.
>>171662421
but what i really want one day
is a fucking GORKAMORKA VIDEO GAME
>>171662259
they probably transcribe everything over to a new edition once the pages are filled with scratched out grudges.
>>171662553
Fury Road was pretty close to being a Gorkamorka movie.
>>171662553
...what the fuck are these?
>that tiny jaw overcompensation
Since we're discussing Relic games, what your favourite game of theirs? Homeworld? Company of Heroes? DoW?Impossible Creatures?
>>171662553
DIGGANOBS?!
>>171662683
Feral humans trapped on the Morkagorka planet who decided to be Orky. Orks regard them with a mixture of pride and annoyance.
>>171662683
bassicly :
>human ship crash on ork infested planet that fight with cars all the time
>human have to live underground
>are close to a necron tomb so orks leave them alone
>after générations underground the humans are shells of what they were
>see the orks as strong gods
>decide to participate in the tribal wars too larping as orks
>>171662454
did you read his novel? the fucker had a tough time during early years
>>171662421
forgot also man'o war corsair , when they actually finish it and theres also a necromunda game being made somewhere
>>171662782
do you mean wulfen ?
>>171662421
Yeah, fantasys got some good games too.
Honestly, I don't get it when some people say that GWs two big boys only have one or two good games based on them. I mean, there's been some shit, no doubt, but they've done far better than, say, Spiderman.
>>171623304
rollans
>>171662918
The team that did Mordhiem is going to be doing Necromunda, hopefully they will take lessons learned from that game to heart.
>>171662375>tfw no rule 63 version of goblins to be kidnapped by
why even live
>>171662454
Gobbos is naturally cruel.
Skarsnik started out pretty puny even for a gobbo, but he used his Mork like cunnin to get ahead. His name before he became Skarsnik was Runtgit because he was a runt but he was also a git.
His novel is definitely worth a read if you want a better understandin' of gobbo life.
>>171662809
>>171663183
In case any Anon wants to read it and doesnt know, theres a mediafire in this pastebin with pretty much all the Warhammer books you could want. Skarsnik is in the "Warhammer Heroes" folder:
http://pastebin.com/8rnyAa1S
>>171663021
I wish the Mordheim videogame was closer to a 1:1 copy of the tabletop like Cyanide's Bloodbowl game.
>>171663183
the author should have follow the " too smart for my dumb general path that the novel has until 2/3 of the book" instead the " I'm a mary sue gobbo that fights like an orc of the final arc"
>>171663098
wew
>>171663826
Bloodbowl's pretty fun, wish more people played it.
>>171662923
its really because they sell their franchise to any studio , so while theres succesfull games , theres huge shits like storm of vengeance and arcane magic
and the hillarious fire warrior where you play a tau who kill space marines and chaos space marines by the dozens and is heavly implyed to be a tau commander in dawn of war dark crusade and the novelization say that he was able to do it because of khorne
>>171663951
Legendary edition when?
>>171663826
They tried. Having the original art from the first rulebook was a nice touch.
>>171663953
>and the hillarious fire warrior where you play a tau who kill space marines and chaos space marines by the dozens
Yeah, that was pretty dumb.
>>171664134
Tried learning the game online with Skaven, most of my team was out there after the first goal.
>>171639894
not in my bretonnia!
dick inspectiona daily! drop em lads!
>>171663872
Just about every warhammer novel i've read really seems to race to the finish from about 3/4 in.
Still, they're fun, easy reads and if the author manages to avoid mary sueing every encounter I can enjoy them.
>>171663731
Looked through but couldnt find; Aside from the codex' are there any novels focusing on or told from the perspective of Ogres, Chaos Dwarfs, Beastmen or Lizardmen? Or any greenskin novels other than skarsnik?
All the real interesting shit seems unexplored.
>>171662553
the devs of battlefleet gothic put a reference to gorkamorka in the ork intro with the Gretchin Revolutionary Committee having a small cameo
>>171664134
soon , cant wait to play kislev
>>171663098
i know your pain , i wish goblin qt girl existed
>>171661746
Franks or Saxons
>>171663731
thanks, been looking for something like this
>>171664452
forgot pic
>>171664590
I'm sure this went swimmingly.
>>171639894
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ!JVw20QKC
for those who want to read more lore , rules and overall rpg books
I still haven't played brettonia
thats how much i hate the french accent
>>171664634
>OI YA GITZ GET BACK TA WORK
>*Kicks hat goblin off bridge*
>*Picks up hat, puts it on and walks away*
>>171664853
>GRETCHIN DON'T GIT NO "ATS
>Steals hat
>>171664836
It's not a French accent
It's a Bret accent
>>171652207
>lepanto
>>171664836
There is literally nothing wrong with french accents.
>>171664836
I cannot finish a Bret campaign, and after +700 hours in Warhams I'm really burnt out and I'm hoping the next installment adds a lot more features and rules to make it closer to TT in many regards.
The spreadsheeting in Attila was just boring but there does need to be a bit more going on, especially reason to interact with territories you cannot occupy aside from "destroy x" campaign objectives.
>>171664836
Friend, we are not so bad. If it helps you to feel better, the French will be gone from the world soon.
>>171665368
You keep saying that but you won't fucking leave.
>>171664836
t. peasant
>>171664442
>Looked through but couldnt find
>Black Library Books > Warhammer Heroes
>Aside from the codex' are there any novels focusing on or told from the perspective of Ogres, Chaos Dwarfs, Beastmen or Lizardmen?
Sadly not many. There are the Thanquol books for the Skaven, one of which has some sections told from the Lizards perspective. There is "The Great Maw" short story for Ogres but its, well, short. I also remember one book, Broken Honour, having bits from a Beastman leaders perspectpive. There are some Chaos and Vampire books but in general, the novels focus on Empire, Bretonnia Chaos, Elves and Dwarfs.
>>171666031
I just noticed the ; on your post, Anon.
Fuck me I'm retarded
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UgWj_Oo5n4
STUFF?
>>171621771
Can anyone tell what's going on with Grombrindal? Whenever I download it off the steam page, it just launches the game and nothing happens, and it also doesn't let me download it when choosing a new campaign
>>171666418
What did they mean by this?
>>171666501
Restart Steam.
Wow...Bretonnia....some cavalry...and...umm...that's it.......
>>171666591
It can't be a new faction at this point, so... regiments of renown for Chaos Warriors/Beastmen? DLC for dlc would be a bit weird though.
>>171666841
S K A V E N
K
A
V
E
N
>>171666591
Egil Styrbjorn for Chaos
I can feel it
>>171666602
Weird issue now, selecting Grombrindal starts the game as Thorgrim after loading
>>171645664
>my Bohemond died fighting off chaos doom stacks
sucks
>>171666591
They meant they can still squeeze some dosh out of us with this one.
Not that I'm complaining, so far all the paid content has run the gamut from OK to greats, so far the "Give us money and we will give you cool shit" matrix has been running smoothly.
>>171659378
Slower paced with more tactical battles.
>>171659554
You can actually skip the religion techs and just tech around them. The declining tech is truely stupid. If it got replaced by a less efficient but still better sanitation building I would be okay with it. Probably. Since the Roman sanitation building is amazing.
>>171667253
>so far all the paid content has run the gamut from OK to great
Which are the greats? Genuinly wondering, I only have Chaos?
>>171667568
Not him, but King and Warlord is a top-tier dlc.
>>171667685
Him, was about to say that.
>>171667568
Not that guy buy King/Warlord is my favorite, Beastmen are pretty good too. Haven't tried the others yet.
>>171667685
And it's all thanks to Skarsnik and Beggar Nohammer.
>>171666617
t.peasant
>>171667685
>>171667847
Beastmen and Wood Elves worth looking into or wait for sale?
>>171668002
Sale.
>>171668002
Beastmen were on sale yesterdy.
I'd suggest you wait.
King and Warlord is great.
Grim and Grave is good.
Chaos is Ok-ish.
Beastmen is overpriced, wait for a sale.
I do not have them, but Welfs appear overpowered as fuck. I still would not adivse you to buy them at that price.
>>171664712
This shit is too real.
>>171668597
T. Manfred
>>171668002
>rapegoats
No, wait for a sale if that ever happens.
>welfs
Worth it in my opinion.
I can't fucking deal with these chaos chariots, they just mow through everything straight into my back line and then fuck off while another one does the same thing.
This may sound shit but is there a mod for just stopping the chaos invasions? It isn't fun, and i'm not good enough to deal with this shit yet.
I'm not sure if the game has enough unique assets to pull this off yet, but what about modding in Pirate faction?
>Horde faction
>Movement bonus when at sea
>Heavy black powder+skirmish focus.
I'm going to try to cut my teeth on some modded units for Bretonnia, then I want to jump on a bigger project.
>>171669286
Camp in the corner, put spears on the sides where they try to charge in. Shoot them with stuff while they are coming to you.
>>171669286
Mod to remove chaos chariots, not to remove chaos, surely.
>>171668937
Meh i didn't really like the WElf mini campaign, its just a blown up Athel Loren with extremely predictable Beastmen patterns and nothing else matters.
In terms of GC they are both good albeit the outposting and attrition immunity is stupid
>>171669372
>Pirates
>no naval combat
Dead on arrival.
>>171669520
They have a very unique gameplay, which I think warrants the price. Beastmen are as of now just a improved Chaos.
>>171669587
I thought about that, but I think I can still make it work. I can at the very least work out the mechanics of the army and modded units.
>>171669696
Most of the WElf campaign is sitting there going "normies keep out REEEEEE" until you decide to just fuck someone over and erect shitty little herdstones, I mean outposts everywhere
The armies are interesting with a kiting focus but without aggressive AI gets boring since they will wait for you to come out.
Got a Huge backup of screenshots
>>171670345
Triple Digit kills on a siege defense for this guy and no title for it. So I gave him one.
>>171670508
>>171670345
>ironside
how is this mod? have it but haven't tried it, does it feel balanced for their cost?
>>171625241
rollan
>>171670671
>>171670841
fuck that, reroll
>>171670846
>>171668597
>tfw you have a heart of despair and exactly six insanity points
; ;
>>171670835
This is the Tilean army on the Southern Realms mod. I guess its fun.
>watch some legendoftotalwar campaign
>nothing but bug abuse on the campaign map, spamming cheese armies for auto resolve abuse and not taking battles unless theyre heavily in his favour.
I sure hope none of you anons play like this. and if you do i sure hope you don't find any enjoyment of it.This is speedrunning levels of autism.
The true way to play is narrative driven and joy comes from outmatching your opponents through tactical superiority/faith in your men.
>>171671154
>Fechez la Vache!
>>171671463
>>171671454
I can't lie, I autoresolve battles I don't like the look of but are somehow in my favour. If the enemy has a tonne of Hounds or Chariots, I autoresolve without fail. Quite how it figures I've got that battle in the bag when I lose it every matchup is beyond me.
happening
>>171672094
Arena?
>>171672094
Its Time
>>171672094
whuzzat? Arena?
>>171671945
Autoresolve definitely undervalues chariots, considering the only counter to one chariot is two units of heavy cavalry.
>>171672172
>>171672215
YE
> Game Improvements
> • New Capitoline Hill map
> • New user tutorial
> • New premium units
> • Redesigned battle rewards system
> • Fully reworked faction trees and progression
> • New Commander talent trees
> • Completely new spear & pike gameplay
> • Updated graphics and maps
> • ...and much more
>>171671945
understandable, game is frustrating sometimes.
dis nigga spending 40 mins abusing AI with bows though.
TOMB KINGS ANNOUNCEMENT WHEN
MY SKELETON IS GETTING RESTLESS
>all the warhammer games will never be connected with playing total war normally, but playing naval battles in man o war, send units to gather and sell wyrdstone and fight enemy warbands in mordheim, fighting the skaven with your hero's in vermintide, or settling diplomatic problems with a game of bloodbowl
At the very least though I do hope they add naval combat in the expansion as dark and high elves are the supposedly best seaman in the world.
>>171673730
We all want noble goodish guy skeles anon, calm your gitz.
>>171673771
Me too anon, the naval part, not the other dumb shit you said.
Glorious chaos vessels, skaven subs and dwarven ironclads full of people that physically cant swim.
>>171674058
>Dwarf Sailors (Water Wings)
>Kholek with nearly 9,000 hp and a 53% ward save
>army of 11 dragon ogres and 9 shaggoths
>shaggoths actually survive autoresolve
TEMPEST INCARNATE
>>171674835
>have that cool army comp
>autoresolve
>>171671454
>bug abuse on the campaign map
wh-what bugs
asking for a mate
>>171664464
Thanks, I'll give them a go
Can you throw blasting charges at enemies on walls & are they any good for clearing off walls?
>>171671454
I have a friend i cooped with and it absolutely horrible.
He autoresolved everything.
One thing triggered me when he swarmed athel loren with 6 stacks autoresolving through everything. Didn''t even fight manualy, manual-battles in this game are really sweet.
Nothing brings that immersion and feel when you are severely outnumbered but you manage to stand and win.
>>171676295
looks like its hitting the gate more than the wall desu
go peasant go!
>>171676825
Ding DIng Motherfucker
>Von Carstiens are reduced to one settlement
>My army is in tatters from previous battles
>Ask Empire to attack the settlement with me
>They march a stack nearby but not close enough to be involved in the battle
>Seige settlement
>Hope they come to help
>They are literally right there
>End turn
>They force march way the fuck north
>Vamps Sally and rape my army
I am fucking sick of this games AI. When you fight against them they just attack attack attack and give no mercy but the second you Ally them they become bumbling fucking retards.
>>171676825
Are peasants the new goblins?
>>171676825
>>171676776
Elves are one thing I always autoresolve against. Fuck them and fuck their archers.
>>171676776
What's wrong with auto resolving in that case?
My toaster can't handle 3v3 full armies. I have to auto resolve that shit or else I'll be here all day trying to fight through the chop.
When the odds are overwhelmingly in my favor I'll auto it. When it's a close fight, I gotta get in there and micromanage.
>>171676825
P E A S A N T R Y
>>171676776
Co-op campaigns is a fun concept but i've never found someone to do a full thing with. The only other guy i know right know who plays TW is the type who'll ragequit when something doesn't go exactly as planned, so getting far into a campaign is rare.
>>171677006
War targets are fucked. Never works for me.
>>171677775
I'd co-op with you but I have a rather extensive mod list.
>>171652085
Something not mentioned anywhere is that the main settlements give a bonus to savage orc repleshnishment.
By the time you take the badlands your savage orcs will repleshnish like 50% in one turn
>>171677429
>My toaster can't handle 3v3 full armies.
I know that dilemma. I have trouble with 2vs2, both because the perfomance tanks and also because the unit cards gets cluttered as hell. I end up being forced to play the game in slow motion because of the micromanagement.
>Play Empire or Dwarves
>Always feel bad as fuck about going to war with my fellow humans*/dwarves
*bretonnians aren't humans
>>171677775I can play with you if you want.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Bluefie/
>>171678185
Same.
I try to unify the empire of man through confederation and reconcillation. But when war calls, when some cuckery happens and some "fellow humans" decide to take a liking/peace with vampierres or some other enemy of man, I bring out the belt.
>>171678387My PC is a bit shit so WH loading times are rather long for me. If you're okay with that or want to play Older TW's instead i'll definitely be up for it though
>>171637209
"I PROMISE YE ONE FAT PIG IF WE WIN THIS BATTLE AGAINST CHAOS
>Peasants turn into elite squadron, killing machines hungry for dinner
>>171678847Thats fine im reading My girl so I can deal with loading times. Just send an invite and we can discuss.
Vlad, Isabella or Mannlet?
>Release the Dick Biting Dogs!!
>>171679163
KONRAD
O
N
R
A
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The infinite war with the French continues, my boys.
4 Regions left to victory.
Angouleme is next.
>>171679163
>>171671454
>lotw
You know when you find yourself playing a game not for fun but because you don't have anything else to do?
He's that cranked up to 10, plus abusing every bug/glitch/exploit possible, to make sure any remaining enjoyment he derived from the game is utterly and irrevocably snuffed out.
>>171676825
>Peasants vs Flagellants
Whoever loses, we all win.
I don't remember if chaos warrios chaos spawn were looking like this?
Beastmen version have beastmen aesthetics, or a least part of them.
Even if its a small, its neato attention to the detail
>>171680602
Beastmen spawn are mostly Animals
WoC Spawn were once human.
>>171680602
Yes Beastmen Chaos spawn are different. All 3 Giant's also have different appearances.
Ogre Giants will also have their own appearance.
>>171679203
CA plz give.
>>171679203
I adore WFRP and all of its Splatbooks, they're full to the brim of gold like this. I particularly like whenever there's a Bestiary and a few snippets from interviews with commoners and scholars. Simple Tim the Village Idiot (profession) advises that you shit in a 6 foot deep hole and bury it, that way when the shit turns into a Beastman it doesn't know which way is up and will tunnel down into the earth and die.
>>171676776
>there are people who spend currency units and invest their time in a Total War product who DON'T fight battles
>these people avoid the centerpiece of the entire franchise and play Total War: Autistic Map Painter instead
>many such cases. Sad!
I literally cannot understand this. This is like....getting Fifa just for the franchise mode and never playing a match.... Just get that Football Manager game (or in this case, a paradox GSG)
>>171680868
I'm picturing a lot of chains and sad eyes.
>>171680868
Beastmsn giant is best.
Goddamn im excited for ogres and maneaters.
>>171679263
Stakes are fucking dope, dude. Get fucked you armor-clad wine-breathers.
This is a battle for Blois - this is the reinforcement army, while the main garrison is off in the distance coming to fight.
>>171680868
Sorry, 3 giants? Greenskin Giants, Warriors of Chaos Giants, what's the third? Do Beastmen get a Giant also? I've never seen one
>>171681012
Yup, it's furry and has horns.
>>171681112
Lemme guess
Giantgors
>>171681112
>Chaos giant is just a giant that wandered too north has 4 eyes
>Orc Giant is a dumbass just likes to eat humies
>Beast giant has horns and shit and just wants to wreck faces
Beast giant is the happiest
>>171681094
So, with Blois and Tours both taken, we are two cities away from ending this Scot-ridden slog of a campaign. I'm super looking forward to a smaller faction to play with.
>mfw my first mod is on the workshop's front page
>>171681461
Post it, you double gobbo.
In Warhammer, is it possible to roll with just a couple army? One main one that you upgrade as much as you can and then a small one to bolster forces a bit more and act as bait to get commanders out of cities?
>>171681273
GS giant is buddies with the other greenskins though. They share beer and everything.
>>171681920
On normal you'd be fine with 2, I guess. On higher difficulties I'd imagine it would be really hard to keep everything in check with less than 3, and that's only if you can handle any force with just one stack.
>>171681805
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=883866995
>>171680996
I bet they also use radious which boosts economy so you can spam even more stacks!
Stack Total War, which is kinda sad if you buy a game just to play on the campaign map. Not really cost efficient.
>>171681353
So close! So far! I'm gonna lose this, I can feel it. Fuck fuck fuck
>>171681461
>>171682159
>Open workshop to see what on front page
Well i do hope it's not that Unbreakable Alliances & Vassals mod
mfw
>>171682159
Fucking shitter.
>>171682301
>>171682426
>>171682560
Whats wrong with it
>no speech from Luoen for the final battle in the Chaos Wastes
>not even a bit of text when you win it and complete the "ultimate campaign victory"
wow...quality
>>171682720
wrong
there's a sentence of text
>>171682696
Alliances are supposed to mean something. If you can just back out of supporting your ally without any consequences - what's the point?
>>171681920
Yes and no. Youll need a hi/low mix.
2-3 Hi armied with good Lords and high quality units to fight the battles that matter
Then depending on faction/difficulty/blobbing you'll need a few large but cheap armies to take out rebels/chase down depleted armies.
For instance I'm currently doing Wurrzag legendary turn 82,
2 main armies are SOrc Biguns/Ngobbo archers/SOrc boar bigunz/divers
2 cheap armies are all Gobbos and lobbas w/Ngobbo lords
>>171683108
How on earth do you have enough income for that? I struggle to keep 1000g/turn
>>171681242
I meant Ogre Giants.
Was not even aware this was possible with major factions.
>>171682159
>>171681461
Thank you! i was literally just waiting around for someone make this. i got it a couple hours it was posted. unbreakable alliance is shit though. unbreakable vassals is lore friendly and perfect though.
>>171683504
Ya, thats how i got grimgor under skarsnik.
CROOKED MOONS IS BEST GIRL
>>171682275
Whew, not only did they hold but I'm actually about to take settlement number 69 from the French.
>>171678185
>Empire mains
Erghh!
>>171683723
I think Crooked Moon counts as major since they're playable
Seeing the Red Fangs do it is pretty odd but I guess its possible if the fangs had a lucky streak and managed to outlast the greenskins losing the badlandsbowl as usual
>>171678185
>>171678521
Soon.
Help with come, to cleanse the land of filthy creatures.
>>171681805
>double gobbo
Such talk isn't allowed on this Sigmarite board, friend.
>>171682927
If you put it that way, then yeah. However I really hate how the current system works with long term allies who are supposed to be your sworn brothers suddenly breaking off an alliance because of some small refusal.
>>171683859
True, i guess everyone really can do it in all factions. That fact could make shit real interesting, i hope we get more subfactions released to play
I fucking hate Wood Elves so much. If their crazy speed, range and insane damage is any indicator of High and Dark Elves I will not be happy.
>>171684059
Said the filthiest creature.
>>171678153
you can drag the unit cards around
>>171683401
Secured all of the badlands and every settlement has lvl 2-3 hoard, + those gem/gold mines
Most of the funds to build it came from sacking Border Prince and Mountain Nigger towns for 10-30k a pop (I think one town was 40ish). I almost always used a shaman with 20% build cost reduction for the expensive stuff
Wurzzag gets 50% upkeep reduction on SOrcs so his army is like 3/5th what it should actually cost
Raiding obv
>>171683504
Red Fangs aren't a major
>>171684059
I'm unfamiliar with Warhammer lore. Where are the high elves during this game? I thought they were supposed to be the protectors of the world or something. Why do we only see wood elves?
>>171684457
>Red Fangs aren't a major
Yeah, they annexed GSs. Now Grimgor is walking around with a Red Fang's banner. Shit's weird.
>>171684506
The high elves live on not-Atlantis in the middle of not-Atlantic Ocean, and pretty much don't do shit unless the world is about to end.
Nm i see what you mean, RF taking in GS..... Didnt know that either
>>171653660
Group of Beastmen caressing helpless wood elf.
... Then Orcs came by and Jacking off.
>>171682159
Good useful mod. dont let the no fun faggots get you down
>>171683504
You running SFO? The Greenskin LLs kept spamming afterwards.
>>171684506
High elves live on their own atlantian like island, and are not guardians as much as elitist dickheads who do however boast the strongest navy, in truth no one likes or respects them, least of all dwarves. Woodies dont really associate with their cousins.
>>171683740
So, I have 3 cities under siege in France now. I need (1) ONE (1) to win. Will they take this offer?
They came to me for a ceasefire, but will they trade it for my victory?
Think the lady consents to me keeping such allies? I mean it is to crush marienburg afterall.
>>171684303
*spreads out across a square mile so your cavalry can't kill me while still spitting arrows at your while running*
eat shit
>>171685028
I had to sweeten the deal with 15k florins but YOOOOOOOOO ITS OVER
Fact: Late Romans were the most stylish Romans of all
>>171685387
true desu
>Mousillon fucking never
>>171685387
>Old Centurion Style Armor
>Updated with real chain mail
Yummy.
>>171685267
BING BING WE WINNER NOW
Next up, we slog through as Navarre.
>>171685387
You call those "Late" Romans?
THESE are Late Romans!
>>171685553
The duke can really hold his shit together
Wood Elves seem a lot more settlement reliant than most other factions. Hypothetically speaking, if they just so happened to control all of Bretonnia and the top half of the Empire, would sending all of my armies to Athel Loren to burn the Trees down do anything?
>>171685615
Get on it m80 I've been waiting for a long-ass time
Wish you luck
>>171685387
I hear ya
>>171685615
>territory not connected, separated by only one region
Oy fucking vey
>>171664836
It sounds like someone trying to be French more than being French, if that makes any sense. I remember watching the trailer and thinking the guy sounded almost British in some ways.
>>171685797
I love those late centurion helmets so much
I'm really confused as to why their only presence in the base game is a whole unit wearing them
Like a whole unit of centurions wouldn't be a very good use of manpower, you know?
>>171683108
>2 cheap armies are all Gobbos and lobbas w/Ngobbo lords
those are surprisingly useful
if you give them that 'all goboos get poison' trait, they can be pretty nasty
>>171685615
Fuck, look at this starting position and the fucking territory I have. And then look at the victory conditions. Jebus Christo.
Do I go for H/H? What is most optimal difficulty settings here? (Fuck VH/VH not on your life)
>>171685703
I know lad! I do it all for you
>>171685808
I spent the second half of the campaign trying to connect, I swear. Travel times across France and thru the channel essentially had me governing two empires
Ungrim or Thorgrim
>>171664836
>Not playing with fay and having nothing but unnoble folk.
WEST COUNTRY IS LOIF ME LORD
>>171686050
>slaying or GRUDGIN
idk lad what do you think
>>171685387
Childhood is lorica segmentata wank
Adulthood is....
>>171685656
Alexios pls
>>171686050
Grombrindal you faggit.
I had a dream that I was playing ancient empires, lads.
I don't want to wake up anymore.
>>171686050
Thorgrim has a top-tier VA and a bitchin' throne. Do I need to go on?
>>171686050
Ahhh, to die in battle...
>>171652253
Gelt > Volkmar > Karl
Thorgrim > Belegar > Grombrindal > Ungrim
Kemmler > Ghorst > Mannfred > Vlad > Isabella
Azhag > Wurrzag > Skarsnik > Grimgor
Archaon > Kholek > Sigvald
Fay > Louen > Alberic
Durthu > Orion
I don't remember the names of the beast men people but the winged dude > the corrupted arm dude > regular guy
>>171686036
Wahey!! Look at that, I actually get FOUR starting positions! And its connected! Truly, things are looking up for the Navarrese.
GAME PLAN:
>Turtle as FUCK. I can only recruit troops in my capital, as neither of my French holdings have a general, meaning NO MERCS
>Desperately try to trade away my French holdings for literally anything else
>Make peace with England, as I think I start at war with them
>Slowly build armies
>First target is going to be Aragon
>Try to buddy up with Castile so I'm not swamped by Spaniards
>PRAY
And thus with the noble beastmen marienburg is no more but it cost us dearly.Sorry its dark but I load so fast it was almost instant.
>>171686997
nice fucking city
just a shitty farm field
good stuff
>>171687131
>allied with Morghur
Excuse me?
>>171687131
tbqh Beastmen probably cant tell the difference between you and kin as you all smell the same
>>171687131
Is it coop.
How do you deal with corruption.
Sadly in my game my bret-coop partner took marienburg faster than i could as an empire. Triggers me to this day.
>>171686997
Let me detail EXACTLY how shitty this starting position is.
>Literally start with more money than I can EVER spend
>4 Settlements
>3 Cities which cannot recruit units
>Of those 3, only 1 can even build a palisade and be upgraded
>I cannot even recruit agents, nor do I start with any
>Only have 2 generals
>Can only recruit sword militia and crossbow militia - 1 unit of each, by the way
Thinking very long and hard about turning Victoria into a castle, but by GOD do i need population so I can improve my shit
>>171687332
Not sure this is an experiance for both of us. So long as he keeps his army out my land it should be fine. Im just gonna take brettonia then help him raze the planet.
>>171687554
Good fucking shit m8 this is exactly the type of content I wanted
Get em
>>171684815
Yeah thought it was a bit odd
>read a reddit thread (I know).. 'gimme some good mods'
>almost every posts is a long lists of 'make game easier'
>mfw
There must be a particular kind of psychology beind using mods to basically cheat instead of just lowering the difficulty.
>>171687865
Hopefully the Sequel/Update will fix the factions names
>Empire-Riekland
>Dwarfs-Karaz Ankor
>Greenskins- Evil Sunz
>Vampire Counts-Losers
>>171687554
Both Cherbourg and Victoria are halfway through to being able to have even a basic fucking palisade, and the growth rate is 2.5% in both.
Turtling has never been more fucking nailbiting. I can't even reinforce them.
>>171687776
fuck you but also thank you for putting me on the mod's most wild ride.
>>171687554
>Basques live in shitholes
nothing new
Chaos Dwarves when?
>>171688271
Hahahaha get fucked you fucking English, now someone else knows how it FUCKING FEELS
>>171688317
If only I had known truly the deplorable state in which they exist
HE SHEDS BUT HE SAVES
AND HE SAVES MORE THAN HE SHEDS
BUT HE SHEDS
>>171683504
Happened on my Bretonnia campaign. Marienberg confederated with the Empire.
>>171688271
>478 people
It's an actual shitty village with nobody in it
GOOD SHIT
>>171686036
whats with the assload of provinces in the mod, especially in Britain? are you just supposed to ignore like 90% of them and focus building mostly the big cities/castles?
>>171688782
To basques a concentration of this many people is the peak of civilization
I'm surprised they even managed to get crops going desu
>>171688491
Well, I guess this is happening. I keep adopting generals, and I have 4 total now, and I have military access thru France, so it's time to hoof it to my other settlements and see if I can't help em grow.
>>171688782
Shit SUCKS
>>171688903
So, I was also wondering. The most important provinces are castles, of which there are WAY less - 4 total in all of Britain. Towns are super easy to develop and make buttfuck loads of money, but you need quite a few to start raking in the cash.
It ends up being a back and forth - capture castles to replenish your troops (or else pray there are mercenaries around), capture cities to pay for troops.
After the England campaign I just had, having even like 10 or so provinces in one cluster is enough to make decent money to start pushing out major armies, bc trade values are related to distance between cities.
Also, it makes the map way larger and way more actual field battles can get fought instead of going siege after siege after siege until you win.
Regiments of Renown were a mistake and never should have been added into the game.
>tfw love dwarves but no cavalry in Make the Enemy Rout: the Game sux
>>171689262
9 Turns to Alencon, boys. Have a nice trip, please don't get fucked on the way up.
>>171689410
You were a mistake and never should have been added to Earth.
>>171689410
The way they were implemented is shit.
Regiments of Renown were a good idea and more should be added into the game.
>>171689410
Good idea. Poor implementation. As usual. The best way of doing it would have been to give you the option to promote a long-serving unit to a RoR once it reached Rank 9. You could then choose from some custom bonuses like extra abilities or stats.
Or alternatively keep the current system but remove the instant recruitment bullshit. Give them each a quest battle or a recruitment requirement rather than just a necessary rank to give them a bit more depth and flavour. After that they become recruitable like a normal unit.
>>171689262
I hate moddb, it's been downloading extremely slow for me over the past few months.
>>171689490
Wooh, check out my Brand SPANKIN NEW diplomat, so I can interact with other factions in ways that are not "get rolled"
>>171689726
Jebus Christo, friend. If you give me a few minutes I can see if I can put it on mega
>>171686050
YOU ALREADY KNOW WHO I AM
>>171689662
If this were the case I'd be more than happy with them. Sick and fucking tired of having factions like Vamps just spam them right from the start and decimate entire units without any problem.
>>171689928
>diplomacy
damn dude slow down with the progress. At this rate the basque's will be colonizing the moon in a few years.
Trying out Warhammer for the first time, gotta get used to Lords units being absolute wrecking balls damn. Also, fucking Karl Franz getting slapped around by some who gives a fuck captain of the Empire dafuq.
>>171690460
Karl Franz is a hack.
>>171689928
Gave France an ABSURD amount of money for map info, but they kinda like me, so that's good.
Also got trade rights and map info from the Bretons, so they won't come swooping down and crush me
Alencon is starting to look like a place people actually live, meaning it takes its place as the crown jewel of my kingdom.
>>171689726
Hey, I'm uploading now, but it might be a while - currently at 7%.
Hello /twg/.
I was thinking of doing an Alani playthrough on TW:A, but I've been getting shrecked when I've tried. My goal is to settle in the fertile lands in Iberia. The things I've tried are migrating (and settling) immediately, and turtling. It has ended with me getting shrecked by public order + negative income or getting roflstomped by the ERE or other factions around Sarmatia. Do you guys have any advice?
Thanks in advance.
>>171690917
Conquer some spain m80
>>171661208
Don't
>>171690917
Wow, for all the trouble the Scots are giving em, the English are moving fast thru southern France.
>>171691032
Yeah, yeah, give my people another 500 years to invent fire and we'll start moving
>>171625241
Rollin
>>171690927
I transfer all of the units from the eastern horde into the western one, and then book it west, trying to make enough money for the eventual settling/rebuilding you will have to do. The roster is sound, although no spears is a nightmare, and the recruitment is buggy/poorly implemented (your best units can only be recruited from the t5 castle building that requires the last civic tech). What province you settle in can also be important - In spain I typically settle in Cartagenesis, as the olives make it easy to spec it into a very rich economic province when stacking commerce bonuses. You might also try converting to a different religion upon settling if you don't like arian christianity (I converted to graeco roman paganism). Spain is really good once you get your econ up and running, and africa is also lucrative if you want to expand that way.
>>171691309
Why do you even need fire
Get some pointy sticks and go stick someone up for their village
Make sure not to conquer some city that has more population than your entire country though, that would be awkward
>>171625241
fug it role
>>171691309
Alright, guys, here we are with my big bad Navarrese army. Time to go find where the Aragonese live and pray Castile doesn't like mountains this time of year.
>>171691505
Ty Anon, I shall try this.
Lads, the fet enchantress, being a lying slut has almost every negative trait possible.This was unknown before confedarating with her.
I've got her sat here hoping for the negative traits to go away but they aren't. What am I doing wrong?
How the fuck do you play greenskins early game? VH/VH and it's just stupid fat hordes slapping into one another.
>>171627604
Go all sherman and finish up the south
>>171691814
Hell yeah kick some Catalan ass
>>171691814
for the LOVE OF FUCK
Now what??
>>171692016
Conquer Ireland and Mhann, commit on being a decentralized village shitshow of a nation
>>171692016
oh no
>>171691846
feet goddess is perfect you rake
yes they go away with time
>>171691846
you need a chapel in order to get rid of the negative traits, and it doesn't look like you have on in lyonesse unless I'm blind and the bottom right building is the chapel.
>>171692016
Well, in for a penny, in for a pound and LOOK AT MY LUCK
>>171692290
It is a level 3 chapel.
>>171692205
Best elf best waifu
>>171692325
BUILD BUILD BUILD YOU ASSHOLES
>>171692325
>BASQUE'D
>>171692518
oh fuck its the aragonese king
I sure hope my masses of men can hurt him and 63 of his best friends
SHIELD WALL!
>>171691846
>>171692452
It works, but it takes time. Keep her locked up in that chapel for like 15 turns.
>>171692735
Right on m80
The positive part about all this is you can give up settlements to the spanish all day because they aren't worth shit
>tfw got the mod that gives tay enchantress access to white magic as well as life
>>171692735
Surprise, they can.
We now own 2! Castles! We are well on our way to becoming king of the French. Best part about this is that in-game all the Iberian factions share culture, so that's like 8 provinces I can take without worrying about unrest.
>>171693043
Wow, they came back hella fast but I have no doubt I'll be able to turn them away.
Speaking of away, will continue posting around 8:30 est i love you all
>>171693036
forgot pic
>>171692746
I never realized how good shield wall was until I tried playing Picts.
Shitty ass tier 1 wood runners are better than your highest research tier sword/axemen because the wood runners get SHIELD WALL. THE GREATEST FORMATION IN THE HISTORY OF TOTAL WAR.
>>171688514
OH HOW HE SHEDS
SHEDS THE BLOOD
>>171685694
They wouldn't rebuild it, but they'd still be around.