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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #449

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/ssg/ - Soccer Spirits General #449

Sharr is balanced Edition

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.com2us.soccerspirits.normal2.freefull.google.global.android.common

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/us/soccer-spirits/id808137814?mt=8

FAQ: http://pastebin.com/wNX2ME3E (embed) (embed)

Friend list: http://ofo.jp/j/OgjO

The following players will have a boosted rate during the following weekend(s):

Mar. 17th - Mar. 19th.
> Roina (Ardor), EA01 Luka (Thunder), Vermillion Bird (Whirlwind), Hercules (Light), Hamerus (Dark), Shu (Ardor, Legendary), Felix (Thunder, Legendary)

Mar. 24th - Mar. 26th
>Angela (Ardor), Hildegard (Thunder), Linmay (Whirlwind), Luri (Light), Gerrard (Dark), Bell (Thunder, Legendary), Presty (Dark, Legendary)

Mar. 31st - Apr. 2nd
>Kyoko (Ardor), Blade (Thunder) Vivid Fear (Whirlwind), Virgil (Light), Lynbell (Dark), Khirel (Whirlwind, Legendary), Jibril (Light, Legendary)

Current events:

Littre Plushie Event Mar. 16th - Mar. 31st
Match the Cards Mar. 3rd - Mar. 20th
Rudy: Mar. 5th - Mar 19th
Litz: Mar 12th - Mar 26th
Nute: Mar 12th - Mar 26th
Fenrir Boss Match Mar. 17th - Mar. 19th
March Scout Event Mar. 16th - Mar. 31st
More info can be found in-game

Previous Thread: >>171427564
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was just in the middle of making one.
good thing i noticed
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Can anyone please post full portrait Jibril EE please?
I need it for reasons
>sharr is balanced edition instead of
>balance edition
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>ww and dark falseflagging their way to the top
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>>171601517
More like dark and rainbow
I have seen little to no monoww, and the heaviest team had less than half ww players in it
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Play! Play! Go team!
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Ardor sluts are ugly and so is loli presty. Milf presty is the only thing BB has done right in the past year.
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>>171601647
What about Lynbell IN SPACE?
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>>171601782
Lynbell is very cute
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Considering everyone complains about everything here... is it even possible to have an 'honest' team?
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>>171602032
Define honest
Also
>caring about what anyone says on the internet
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What do you think /ssg/? i just need to EE vonchi and my team will be ready
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>>171602032
Knowing this place the only honest team would be made of characters rarely ever seen and have no synergy to speak of.
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>>171601782
i was making a SMELLY GIRL IN SPACE edition before i noticed this one.
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>>171602032
from what I've seen, if you have a team full of players that are considered to be shit and take it to galaxy you're not cancer and respected.
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>>171602093
If your goal was to make a homo team, you need way too much work, unlike this guy
>>171602178
You should have a thread prepared to post that one then, I'll be waiting anon
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>>171602189
>Uriel + 10 legends
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>>171602032
take what people say here with a grain of salt.
it will hold you back.
besides in the end you will end up doing what you want, so you might as well do it now and enjoy yourself while bitching about what beats your team.
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Post honest teams.
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Reminder that Kirin is the only balanced striker regardless of what people say
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>>171601647
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>>171602950
Fuck off
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>>171603163
is that asakura before her horns grew?
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>>171602917
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>>171603325
>Sharr is so fucking broken that he uses William backline to buff her
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>>171602950
Sharr is pretty cute :3 I'd like to hold her hands and then have her crush my balls with her heels
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>>171603163
I need a version of this for Sharr.
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>>171603325
ardorball will never be an honest team.
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i want to cum on linmays glasses and make her wear them publicly
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>>171602374
Playing against this currently

Uriel/Jibril/Baltheon
Khirel/Felix/Meta
Jiho/Duran/Shu/Aiolos
Presty

I am really looking forward to ohkoing this Presty if I ever get a shot off
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How long until global shuts down like jp and we're pushed to the Korean server?
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>>171604413
>no choi
>no serestia
>a shit
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>>171602093
You only need Kyosuke or Xing CM and you are set.
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>>171604498
Probably will be the other way around
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>>171603745
draw it then
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>>171604657
you'll all be galaxy soon
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So...
Is BI/Alice still viable or just a meme?
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What teamwork stat would be the best for Lynbell?
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>>171604690
I'd have to get gud before I could do that.
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Only thunder stone I need is SC
Is it stupid to waste 5 useless uniques to get it instead of combining endlessly until I get it?
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>>171604963
pass
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Lucid/Jibril/Baltheon
Choi/Meta/Serestia
Patricia/Duran/Black Ivy/Shu
Presty

Can I get to galaxy with this team?
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>>171605542
Yeah, why not
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>>171602917
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>>171605647
nice try, victoria.
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>>171605647
cute
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why do all my enemies in upper gold have teams full of +12-+15 stones already? half my team is still dumping around with crappy +9 stones.

also, one match away from possibly reaching plat for the first time, thanks for the help guys.
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>>171606409
focusing on maxing stones is always a good thing
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>>171602917
I can finally make my qts+self insert team now that I got BT. All I need is El Repayon and dem Kyoko buffs and I'm ready for galaxy
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>>171606891
just thought maxing stones is something at plat+, I'm poor as fuck and can't imagine wasting that much gold.

on a sidenote, do stones factor into team ability?
do we know how the team ability formula works?
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>>171603325
>>171603579
>>171603814
I'll explain TB William's problem.
William doesn't have Pen if you don't use his ace. He can reach 25~30 at best with substats, however Duran is also everywhere in higher league.
William needs crit tho, if he doesn't crit, he's useless
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>>171608098
That can be solved
USE
THE
FUCKING
ACE
Literally, no reason NOT to if you have him.
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>>171608239
Using William's ace weakens the rest of your team, especially the backline
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>>171608313
Then just make a ohko team
No worries about the backline.
Problem solved
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>>171608472
You're right anon, I'm just scared to fail my OHKO setup against Presty
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>>171608712
>his william can't kill presty
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>>171607570
Stop wasting gold on scouts.
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>>171607570
>on a sidenote, do stones factor into team ability?
Managers like Lucy,Gerold that gives stats boost TA. TA isn't a must, people with low TA can still OHKO you with "OHKO strat".

Maxing stones is always good, the +15 gives like 2 lv stats to the stone. The more unique stones "of course as long it makes sense for your team" you have the easier it is to climb too because they normally buff/debuff a position well or buff it's player.
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>>171608924
slightly guilts of this, but not more than 45k every three days or so.

I just have to evolve all the gatekeepers, my players, try to +15 runes to finally get a unique which would improve my team immensely, train fodder to ST my team etc.

Also, I don't think +12 3 star rares or 4 star normal s are really worth it in the long term, especially not the 3 stars, so I'm hesitant to spend all my gold on rune upgrades for my team.
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Dammit. I ran out of stamina and I'm 3 5* elementals short of EEing Choi.

I guess next week.
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>>171609565
Just buy the elemental matches and you'll get it this night
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>>171609565
Bad goy, just use cyrstals to recharge your ST!
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>>171609565
It's just 10 crystals
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>>171609245
Yeah, my managers are definitely garbage besides Perial, but she doesn't give stat boosts.

I actually lost my first game against a lower rated team today, maxed metatron in cm which immediately penetrated me and full 7* offensive line, his baltheon passed for twice as much as mine.

I only have two achievement uniques so far, working to combine for a third, only at 3 +15 fodder so far.
Anything that's recommended as the first stone to aim for, or at least what color I should combine for?
I guess ardor for EBM?
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How do I make my wife Isillia absolutely bully proof?
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>>171609745
El rape
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>>171609368
I mean I don't know what you're doing then. I am not that high level and I make like 1m every other day.
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>>171609745
Isillia is made for bullying, I take great pleasure in seeing her get knocked out
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>>171609721
>Anything that's recommended as the first stone to aim for, or at least what color I should combine for?
Depends
>I guess ardor for EBM?
Depends

The more you play and analyse you will understand. EBM is mostly used for: backlines to debuff enemy crit rate, Kevin is one of the biggest example that always use it. Can also be used for your frontline with Elaine for example, but overall EBM is used for defense or to lower enemy DR with another ability

You should normally get an unique stone for your striker and GK if you don't plan to dump them, then for your other units that are saving your team
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>>171609841
excluding events?
help me out then, I complete all dailies and fairly regularly deplete all balls/bp/st a few times throughout the day, 200k a day is a realistic estimate to me, and that's bringing one +9 stone to +12.
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>>171604338
give lewd pics that's not ages old
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>>171609972
Delet this
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>>171610063
I currently use a WoM on my Shanti, my other unique is a dragons bone with fairly defensive sub attributes which I gave to duran for now.
Currently in pvp my damage is quite good, I can 1-2 shot 80% of my opponents, my problems are that my midline is weak (because of my players) and my backline feels squishy, I'd take a unique to improve my backline next if I could choose.

backline is magnus/gaphyl/Miho/Duran

BT
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>>171609972
>>171610228
Here is Isillia doing her daily routine before a match starts
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>>171610228
Her scream fills me with much delight, even built a Leventor for her so she can have a real good time
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>>171610536
Drop Miho and put Saramir, Nerua or Kevin with EBM for more CR. Nerua off-color is quite shitty if you ask me, mine only works thanks to Aslan buffs
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>>171609972
>>171610638
>>171610724
NOOO DELETE THIS IMMEDIATELY, ISILLIA IS PURE
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>>171610859
Not anymore
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>>171610767
I'd have to pray to get a EBM first...

But I've thought about replacing Miho for a while, got Silk, Kiki and Kevin, but I kinda wanted to go ww/dark, with kevin I'd have more ardor than dark players and might aswell go full rainbow.
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>>171610859
Never said she wasn't, but she might take pleasure in all these repeated OHKOs. She gazes on their striker as they recive a big pass from Balth, at first she's filled with fear since she knows what's waiting, but then she feels something stirring below. She can't belive herself. She can't belive how she's getting excited from this, but it happens regardless.
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>>171611164
you should get Ermaltion for your BT or El Repayon

if you get Ermaltion, focus CR buffs and crit rate debuffs on enemies, if you get El Repayon you can still focus CR/crit rate debuffs but it probably would work better with a DR stones combo
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>>171610189
Not that anon, but gold/swirly matches start in 2 hours and repeat every 6 hours.

I probably get about a million in gold from the matches every couple days, but I have ST cost reduction managers and stuff. If you just have the base 60 ST to work with, you won't get much out of the matches.
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what kind of name is el repayon anyway
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>>171610859
Isillia is idolslut now.
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>>171611476
>idolslut
Redundant much redundant?
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>>171611293
thanks for the help, I'll go for a light unique then, with my luck I'll probably get another WoM though.

>>171611310
I do these when they're the only things to do, when I get even points I even refresh ST 2-3 times, still not close to make that much gold, it's definitely the managers since I have no st reduction there.

and 60 St is the base? I thought it scaled higher while ranking up, I'm at 58 right now.
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>>171610978
>>171611131
>>171611206
>>171611476
I'M LEAVING THIS THREAD IF YOU DON'T DELETE THIS RIGHT FUCKING NOW
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>>171611757
She probably begs her opponent's striker to step on her after they finish match by now, so sad seeing an hardworking student like her lose her way so badly
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>>171611757
Whatever
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>all this isillia bullying
I'm done
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>6 new friend requests
>nobody from /ssg/
;-;
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>>171612254
Post your name and I'll add you cutie
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>>171612254
>no one from /ssg/ on my friendlist
>never been in any club
okay....
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>>171604498
isilia is sex
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>someone deleted a post
lmao
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>>171612284
It's Killbasa
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>>171612754
Oh, I already have you as a friend you big dum-dum~
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If anyone here needs a club or a better club then Nice Boat has a few slots open.

Just put /ssg/ in your profile
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>>171612754
I'll add you because you're adorable
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>>171611981
post more succubus Isillia
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>>171612921
>not even top 100
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>>171612921
I don't want to, you'll dump me after a week because I sometimes can't login because of work/college and shit
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>>171612921
Why would you ever join a club named after a old and bad meme like that
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A minute of silence for these fallen comrades
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>>171612921
are you on the best server, galaxy?
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>>171613171
>Why would you join the best and first club on /ssg/

dunno
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>>171613310
>yuukachan
I miss my wife
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>>171613408
Ychan was /ssg/ wife
I bet she would've enjoyed our gay orgies
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>>171613310
kebab wants to stay.
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>>171613310
>yuukachan
i miss my cumdumpster
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>>171613085
Lot of people have jobs anon

Cellphones are commonplace

Its not hard to log in. That is a bad meme

Nice Boat is at level 100 anyway so I don't think they care about that right now anyway.
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>>171611702
Yeah, it stops going up once it gets to 60.

Or at least mine hasn't gone up for 20 or so levels.

If you pretty much have the players on your team figured out, it might be a good idea to start looking for some managers.

Anastella, Ingram, and Hasel all provide reduced ST consumption. 50% if you have all of them maxed out.

And you could pick up some managers with 30 ST actives like Selena, Eve, or Gerold. Gerold also provides valuable stat boosts for your team.

And Ingram's active is to use your trainer's active, so he can give you another 30 ST.

With my base ST and managers, I start every day with 150 ST.

And you can get another 100 ST every day from a leveled club if you haven't joined one.

I can get a lot more done every day than I ever used to.
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Meta+Lynbell CM
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>>171613531
If I could connect from my shitty job/college I wouldn't complain, don't you think?
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>>171613085
I've noticed several people on the member list who haven't logged in for weeks.
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>>171613536
_no
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>>171613536
Consider the following
My peepee + your vagoo
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>>171613667
You have a bad job/college
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>>171613667
>Having shit internet at college
kys, my shitty community college has free 500mbs wifi
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>>171613536
Meta+Khirel is far more useful than that shitty ass Lynbell.
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>>171613670
I just checked.

Three people

But yeah they are level 100. So if you don't check in its (you) losing out on the ST/Gold.

Maybe once they increase the club cap again they will kick massive inactives out.
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>>171613860
Yes
>>171613970
And?
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Why does this game only have 2 strikers worth using?
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>>171614107
But Ardor has three in just its element
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>>171613078
>ranked about 17 or 18 when I joined
>I'm avoiding club matches because I don't like how much time they take
>club drops to 109

I-is it my fault?
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>>171614107
I-It'll be her time to shine soon!
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>>171614326
It was her time already, being the biggest cancer in existence
She deserves all she gets
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>>171613534
yeah, I've been looking for good managers for a few weeks but wasn't lucky so far, definitely a goal of mine though. Lucy/gerold/selena/eve.

Never been in a club so that's probably a factor too.

I just kinda feel like the 4 star managers are a waste of gp so I'm always hesitant to buy then because the next true endgame manager might be after the corner.
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>>171614263
No. Its BB fault

We have no reason to do club matches.

Everyone got the manager already.

Its just simply not worth doing it.
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>>171614405
I don't even have a full team yet but somehow I got Lucy and Gerold.

Maybe not the best decision, but at least I don't have to worry about finding them now.
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>>171614513
Lucy is extremely rare so picking her up was definitely a good choice.

gerold is more common, depends on your team if picking him up was worth it or not.
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>>171614472
>what are club suits
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>>171614764
>playing club matches to get something only useful in club matches
Fuck off
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>>171614182
>male
>slow as tar sharr
>kyoko who?
> ugly boy, needs a stone reroll to be worth using, cant even take down WW goalkeepers
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>win tourny in champs
>+13 points

Come the fuck on this is going to take forever.
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>>171614764
Something useless outside of club matches.

They need to give us back our 6* "suits" and make new ones for 7*

They also need to give us back out old 5* and 6* spirit stone models for the current 3*/4*

Make club suits look like something else.
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>>171614898
>>171615024
>useless outside of club matches that give you gold/crystals/draw tickets/managers
Okay
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>>171615170
>50 crystals, shitty managers, too little gold for all the effort
Only good thing is the tickets, but even that shit is rigged so, literally, not worth it
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>try to build a midline
>it's shit
>try to build a backline
>it's shit
>follor the example of the people that kill me
>it's still shit
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS BULLSHIT
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>>171615446 (You)
>Not getting 100 crystals every club season
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>>171615769
Wow, 100 crystals, so helpful
I bet you can roll, like three 3* with that
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GALAXY CLUBS WHEN
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>>171612925
Well whatever you wanna do, if that's what you wanna do, if you think you can beat me 1,2,3, then yes, you can fuck me in the ass.
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>real life pvp penis vs penis never
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>>171615769
A season is 40 days isn't it?

So 100 crystals per month?
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>>171616396
hmu then man im down for a swordfight
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>>171614107
how'd rabian turn out?
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>>171617280
Worthles garbage, like the majority of the shit bb releases lately
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>>171617280
Why is that bulge there
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>>171617457
balth is invisible and right behind her.
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do we know how the whole heart points thing works? like if your team has 11/11 players that need points vs 1/11 that needs points does that change the frequency at all of an event triggering?
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>>171618720
ARRR ENNN JIIIII
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>>171619061
yes but is it rng where it rolls to see if there is an event and then randomizes between any players who are eligible for an event

OR

does it roll to see if there is an event then roll to see which player the event goes to and then if that player is ineligible the event is lost

???? those are both rng but mean diff things
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>>171619304
Everything is rng
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>>171604963
bench
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>alice from alice in wonderland
>morgana is red riding hood
What other fairy tale character do we have here?
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WW/Dark with Phil ace
Rate this idea
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>>171620493
my waifu
;_;
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>>171620706
Make a viable dual element team that doesn't include a single WW player.
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>>171620909
???????????

what is Dark/Light

what is Dark/Ardor

i mean yes, WW players are ubiquitous as fuck, Duran, Magnus, hell even Khir just fits in almost any lineup and Shanti is a top tier striker. but goddamn people get so carried away with this shit
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>>171620909
Why? I'm a ww player
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>>171621375
Make a viable dual element team that doesn't include a single Dark player.
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>>171621375
are you retarded?
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>>171621375
You forgot light/ardor
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Make a viable dual element team that doesn't include a single player.
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>>171621375
jesus, I hope you just kill yourself for that post.
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>>171621554
>he doesn't know the secret manager strat
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>>171621451

right now you probably can't, because true dual element teams are the weakest type of team so making one without the by far strongest element would be dumb?

>>171621524
you don't think there are any viable dark/light or dark/ardor lineups that don't splash for duran? i mean they'd probably be stronger with him because fucking duran is retarded but the bar was viable
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>>171621524
>>171621635

hurr light/dark can't be viable without duran...

Jibril + Balth + Striker is a shit frontline!

Beth + Meta + Duke is a shit midline!

BI + Alice + Serestia + Patty + Presty is a easy OHKO!

no way that's viable!

inb4 >doesn't count with 7/8 legends!

no anons that's why you are stupid faggots who should stop begging for cost to come back
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>>171622043
>BI + Alice + Serestia + Patty + Presty is a easy OHKO!

Presty/Duran is hard to OHKO, but take that duran away and she drops in 1 hit to Lev, bea, Hiro or a good Shanti.
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>>171621451
You could very easily make a universe tier light ardor team with jibril.
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>>171622393
i'm not saying duran is not retarded, he makes any backline better, there's like no way for him not to synergize and he needs to be nerfed so much for being abusively strong but just because units that are always a good idea to have are zzzzz for the game.

it can be OHKO'd no doubt but its not a so shit its not viable backline either. Though replacing Patty with Duran would be a huge improvement. If we're moving the goalposts to "you can't make the best version of a non mono team without duran" that's not hard to agree with
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What would you guys say is the optimal stone setup for Beatrice? What about Shanti? Assuming I'm running either mono-wind or maybe a wind/dark setup with like Shura or Balth in the front row.
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>Finally run out of character chains
>Only 600 D-stones
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>>171623157
dont cry anon.
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>>171623157
Fork up that $$$
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>>171623153

Either of them work well with balth passes, and one extra passer when facing Presty.

Stiker/Blath/Elchitusa
or
Striker/Balth/Ernesto/Elchitusa
or
Striker/Balth/Ernesto if you don't need her pen ace or a second active pass

Can replace elchitusa with evylin if you don't have her, or Nera if not using her on midline.
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>>171614929
You forgot Noa and Bora
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>>171623893

Forgot the main point:

What stones you use is sort of determined by what support line you have available.
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Is IRENE worth scouting and superbing
or will I have all my uniques and stones +15 by the time I can finish superbs on my team and stat managers
unless I spend zero gold until she's ready
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>>171624283
She's literally free from club matches you lazy shit.
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>>171624283
unless you have the rest of the other managers no.
She's more of an endgame one.
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>>171624361
That doesn't mean I can't scout a superb
>>171624430
I have them, but they're not MSPU, and neither are 5 units on my team
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The fuck rain inmunity do?
Should I change it from my Glayde?
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>>171624626
then save up for team unless they are new star
irene superbing could wait
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>>171624760
Rainy Weather lowers your buff effects/totems, and I think enemy debuff effects
and no, normally a GK would like that, but due to her active she should have Soul Grave immunity
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>>171617280
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>>171624626
>I don't even have a team but should I spent 1.8k GP on a manager that will give me a whole 1.5% discount on stones that I can't afford
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>>171624978
yeah buddy.
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>>171625085
>I don't even have a team
but I do, in fact I posted it in this thread, and I think it's pretty good
>1.8k GP
that I make every 2 weeks
>1.5%
its 5%, which goes a long way when spending millions
>that I can't afford
gee what even just occured that would result in me having no dosh
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>>171624978
And this too.
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>>171624901
>Rainy Weather lowers your buff effects/totems
>due to her active she should have Soul Grave immunity

Her gimmick is precisely the bonus she get from the line totems, and you suggest him to change her inmunity, so she get less bonus from totems.

Nice.
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>>171625238
>2 weeks
Uh, yeah I'd focus more on your team first than getting a stone manager

I could make 1.8k in 5 days or less
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>>171625238
It's 1.5% per superb and 3% for combination. Combination barely happens so don't even try to count both of them together. If you don't even have a main team with all msup and all the stat increasing managers then you are no where near having a team to even consider scouting this.
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>>171624012

Well, I guess that makes sense. Balth isn't currently in my roster, though he's probably my next acquisition unless I randomly pull a legendary out of free draws.

I've been away from the game for a while and my knowledge of mechanics and the meta are probably out of date. What stats does a striker really want these days? Is it still 'Get to 100 pen then get crit and crit damage'? Or is penetration out of style in the post Duran era?

What even IS viable in the post Duran era?
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>>171625332
No her gimmick is being the only 5*-6* GK with a forward pass
also due to that passive Rainy Weather will affect her less than other GKs
besides that weather is only in club matches and bosses, soul grave is much more of a pain to deal with in boss matches, and people here advocate soul grave for club matches
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>>171625657
>the only 5*-6* GK with a forward pass

Hard to pass the ball when you're dead in 1 hit
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>>171625593

Pen is very much in demand right now. That is why Elchitusa is a godsend to WW as a pen ace.

But baltheon pass power is what makes or breaks some teams and it is vital especially if you plan on using beatrice over shanti.
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>>171625579
>scout Irene
>powerup stones at 1.5% off instead of waiting til MSPU for 5%
that'd be pretty retarded
>>171625718
if boss strikers were ever anything to worry about sure
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Just got Shura off of doing my daily quests, is she any good?
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>>171625884

2-assist fronts are popular now so if you don't have a second passer yet shura isn't a bad choice
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>>171625850
>Scouting multiple copies or wasting littres on something that will save you 5% gold when nearly half your team isn't msup
Holy shit you are actually retarded, just do whatever you want. I'm sitting on 15k TA with multiple teams and I would never even consider scouting that garbage.
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>>171626003
My front line is Rize/Baltheon/Elaine right now, so does Shura replace Elaine here? I'm pre rank 30 and have no clue what I'm doing sorry. I just jumbled all my strong looking units together with Baltheon as my ace.
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>>171625884
Shura is the best non legendary passer to go with Balth.
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Wasn't Archer out of the game?
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>>171626262
It's ok, you can replace her no problem
Shura is cuter, sexier and more interesting than Elaine, go for it
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>>171626179
not everyone's a whale anon
I reroll stones by making new ones
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>>171625806

Well, for now I'm stuck using Beatrice/Shura/Silla, though I wanted to get Silla out of the picture at some point since her pass is hella weak. Once I get Balth I intend to replace her, unless some better option appeared.

I've got Nera mid, Shanti and Ernesto on the bench waiting for superbs/levels/ST etc, and Elizabeth on the bench as well.

Beatrice stones are Dragon Boner, 2 blue Rec Pass stones and a blue Pen stone (I wanted to roll for a green or light slot, but god hates me). I -could- switch the Boner for a green Pen stone and replace the blue one with SHoT...
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>>171626262

You need a striker. Badly.

Baltheon is a very good level 30 legend though. he is current one of the top legends overall for both PvP and PvE.
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>>171626447
Tell me about it, I'm using friends to carry me through stuff because Rize just falls flat even with baltheons passes.
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>>171626425
But I'm f2p, because I invested my GP on smart things like units that will help me clear CoT. You know getting 7 million gold a fortnight is a lot better than a 5% discount?
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>>171626382
>archer
>not 1137
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>>171626586
His base art is 11037
His E art is Archer
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>>171626437

DB is great for Beatrice, especially if you are aiming for a 100% pen build eventually.

You need to make some room for some crit rate/damage though, and just look for pen substats on everything.
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>>171626525
Also, if I'm going to use Shura over Elaine, would there be a better place for Elaine in my lineup. Currently it's
Rize/Baltheon/Elaine
Sammy/silla/durahan
Tria/Dynames/Eden
Erica

I'm not sure what i want to be focusing on levelling on her too, active first?
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>>171626565
do you know how much farther that 7 million 'a fortnight' can go when its all saved up for an event discount +5%
I bet you're the guy that doesn't like away teams and sponsor gold
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>>171626946
You could try Elaine CM meme
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>>171626963
Except the original poster can't get that 7mil a fortnight because he's spending GP scouting shitty managers while he doesn't even have a team, that's the whole argument.
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>>171624978
>>171625249
thanks for the lewds man
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>>171626946

If you are currently borrowing strikers go shura/baltheon/Elaine and they will carry you for a long time until you can scout an actual striker.
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>>171626776

Crit rate isn't too much of an issue, she's in the 300 range or so. Crit damage is pretty lackluster though.

She just feels super weak right now, though part of that might just be a symptom of the current 'Everyone is running either Presty or mono-ardor' meta. Lack of Baltheon is probably the rest.

I swear to god, every time I see a back line with Angela/Lucian, Death Queen, Gaphyl, Kevin and Duran, I die a little inside. Or a lot. Shanti can probably turn the tide a bit, but I don't really want to abandon Bea...
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>>171626963
It'll take you 7 months of saving that 7mil to get around 100m, just so you can save a whole 5million gold - which is made in less than a fortnight anyway. Such a great investment! Not to mention in 7 months time you would have a msup Irene for free just from club matches.
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>>171627467
>would have a msup Irene for free just from club matches
You should be using those club match points for suits
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>>171627094
Who says I can't
>>171627467
>a whole 5 million gold
you mean a complete unique? possibly 2 on event discounts? are you dumb
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>>171627308
I'll give that a try then, thank you anon. How do you know what stuff to skill up anyway, i look at some characters and have no idea where i should go with their skills. Is there a general rule of thumb for each role?
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>>171627439
>She just feels super weak right now
Everyone feels pretty weak right now, both my hypermax strikers barely do any damage with a full Balth pass against Presy+Duran backlines.
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Is lucid the best striker for PvE if I want to go thunder/dark?
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>>171627467
She's not going to be next club season, she's being rotated out for that other manager that increases the chance of friendship events happening
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>>171627439

It will take a lot of crit and pen to make beatrice work.

I had to give up receiving pass for a crit damage stone in my rainbow slot on my beatrice to get to where I am comfortable.
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>>171625249
>>171624978

<3
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>>171627652
>pve
SHARR
OR
DIE
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>>171627587
>I can clear to 48 CoT
>Btw half of my team isn't msup and I don't have msup stat managers either :^)
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>>171627615
Presty,Jibril and Duran needs a nerf
Literally every game ends in a timeout.

I just want normal 20.00 limit games not that ohko bullshit or timeout shit.
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>>171627561
You can easily do both if you play a lot of club matches.
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>>171627803
The worst thing about Jibril time outs is that you will lose on score nearly all the time too due to her stupid buff.
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>>171627803
>20m limit
>this means my gk will only use active block once in a whole match
No.
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>>171628196
Im not saying that the matches should be 20m
Im saying I don't want to spend every match timing out because everyone and their mothers has a jibril and presty
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>>171627730
>implying you need a complete team and not just /ssg/ whales aces
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>>171628292
>everyone and their mothers has a jibril and presty
In what kind of world do you live in? I thought only shitters complained about shit
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>>171628329
You actually need parts of many teams, even if you use whale friends.
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>>171627610
>How do you know what stuff to skill up anyway, i look at some characters and have no idea where i should go with their skills. Is there a general rule of thumb for each role?

Position buffs are top priority (or enemy debuffs). Assists and strikers need to level up their active skill as well.

Elaine is a special case because she literally all of her skills are good.
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>>171628292
How about you just ohko them instead of whining about it?
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>>171628563
So with Shura i should max out her active skill first then go for the position buff? Got it. Also, are leader skills worth using? They seem quite lacklustre sometimes for the spirit you need to put into them.
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>>171628786

Some are shit, some are amazing (like Elaine. Elaine has a very important leader active skill for later on, especially in PvE).

But leaders early on are just there for position buffs or debuffs.
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I did it!
thanks /ssg/, 3 weeks ago I was struggling to win a match in gold.
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>against light cancerous backline that won't let me move
>ball gets to my striker after 30 minutes
>enemy besides striker explodes trying to steal the ball
>cheetos tries to steal but dies
>pass to elaine
>active
>pass to shura
>active pass
>active shot
>isillia explodes
>mfw
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>>171629054
Aim for champs, you still have plenty of time.
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>>171629054
Congrats anon!
Whenever you need help don't hesitate to come in here, we'll help you! About 20% of the time, but it's something I guess
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>>171629082
gutting striker damage was a mistake
nerfing sure, maybe, but all it did was allow high AP/pen etc strikers to do the same thing, while making stacking strikers even weaker
they can't kill on an active combo, then any time they have the ball again they die instantly
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Fix the fucking gainz BB
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Is it me or now Lucid is stronger than Vonchi?
>>171629313
Indeed.
Too bad BB didn't listen to me when I told them my solution to the utility striker thing
Add 1 minute to their cd
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>>171629172
I have a 25% win rate against platinum league teams.

maybe next month, step by step.
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>>171629471
I mean can vonchi get a 4k pass from balth?
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>>171629438
>13
I climbed my way up to galaxy on +4/5s last season.
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>>171629551
Yes
Kalkrish ace
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>>171629313

It is the opposite of 2016.

Last summer people abandoned assists in favor of Shura/Elaine/Striker. Stack and kill, easy as breathing and that got worse when utility strikers were over-buffed (especially Bora). Snailtheon was a joke even as far back as late 2015 when Luka/Silla were the hotness.

At that time Leventor, beatrice, and Hiro were a sinking ship and people used transfer tickets for shanti, sharr or william. Stack DI and win, it was that simple.

2017 it is the opposite. No more stacking shit and instead spike damage with pen, or two assists for back to back active passes. Spike damage strikers are back in favor.
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>uriel ace team in diamond
>fuck I can see this shit now
>yeon khirel and didi in back
>ic choi bi vf or some shit like that
>striker baltheon ic elaine and celus
>find this
Is this a fucking joke or a fucking blessing?
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>>171629289
25% answers to my questions sounds about right, don't expect more when I randomly ask stuff.
I like my chances.
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>>171629915
>Ravian
It literally doesn't matter what he's using.
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>>171629915

It really is the season on YOLO.

For a lot of people the YOLO climbed too fast and are way ahead so you don't meet the dangerous ones anymore. That is kind of a blessing.
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>>171629915

>Magnus

Am I missing something? Why is he there?
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>>171631268
Speed...?
Think he took YOLO team too seriously
>>
>>171631268
speed totem
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>>171631268
im still trying to find out win condition that doesnt end up with ravian suiciding
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>>171631319

He won the race to the frontline then his ravian probably hit for 362 damage.
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>>171630602
There's no reason to do anything aside from yolo. The longer the games drag on the more bullshit you have to deal with from healers and stacking buffs/debuffs. No one except attackers can ball hold for shit so it goes back and forth and those players are sure to get their mileage.

Thankfully you don't have to deal with this when going balls in. Yolo truly is the way of the future.
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>>171631476

Hybrid-yolo.

Hard hitting top heavy team but still have a semi-fucntional 3-man backline.

You are a 2HKO backline but you can often kill them before they kill you, and either way the match is over in 5-10 minutes on the clock.
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>>171631784
I'll do something like that once I get Presty
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>>171631784
Why bother with that when you can go all in and end it sooner
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You know what would fix the problem with this heal meta?
100% reflection damage defenders.
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>>171632168

Because

a) YOLO players don't have a soul

b) that loophole is about to be plugged

Investing in YOLO when it is about to be nerfed will only get you ahead for one season.
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>>171614107
>loli ravian
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>>171632328
>b) that loophole is about to be plugged
They're not going to remove the best thing since WilSiLuka.
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>>171629438
>13
That's what everyone was getting in champs for the last few leagues you fucking shitter
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>>171632510

A lot of people are complaining and they allow low ranked non-legend cookie cutters to climb really high really fast.

You don't even need to superb the yolo backline players. Just level 50 with their one totem skilled up is all they need.

This is worst case scenario financially for bigball. Successful non-legend teams that don't need much investment to reach galalxy. No pigs, no littres, not level 70 grind, and no spirits stones for them aside from the vertical line boosters.
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>>171632720
good to know my complaining is working, Im going to do it some more next Com2us stream.
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>>171632720
>meanwhile more and more people complain that games are lasting far too long and constantly hitting the 45 timeout limit
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>>171633134
both can be fixed with a couple buffs,nerfs and sidegrade changes
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>>171632720
>no stone apart from vertical line boosters, no legend, no pig/littre YOLO team reaching galaxy
Yeah, nice try, YOLO require very specific stones.
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>>171632683
Last season I was getting more.
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>try yolo team with Vann/Qtpila/Balth/Haru front
>Rinse and repeat Qtpila pass to Vann shoot to Haru steal to Balth pass
Thought Yolo was just a meme anons
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>>171636840
It is, but works wonders in bronzie
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>Lucid solo shots Isillia
>Isilla is healing for more damage than I did
Ebin.
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>>171638842
Now Imagine Ravian taking a shot, you entitled lucid shitter.
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Can anyone on NiceBoat put up a Kirin ace? Thanks.
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Duran nerfs fucking when?
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>>171639342
pretty sure no one in NB uses him anymore
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>>171640025
Well fuck that's too bad then.
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>>171639608
>Duran nerfs fucking when?

>"Fate of the Absolute" becomes WW only
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>>171640257
Pen debuff affects thunder and ardor only more like it
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>>171640290

That isn't the pen debuff skill. "Fate of the absolute" is just the 20% hp, 20% crit resist totem.

Rainbow could keep using him but they would lose some of his usefulness.
>>
Miho and Jury EE WHEN
>>
Presty and Jibrl nerfs WHEN
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>>171642026
cute girls do not deserve nerfs ever
so Sharr and Jibril need them asap
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>>171642134
>Losing to Sharr in current meta
Literally how?
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>>171642208
By using any gk other than Presty or passer other than Jibril.
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>>171642297
I don't have either and haven't lost to a Sharr once this season in Champs, which are nearly extinct here as it is.
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>>171642393
All the good ones have already climbed to galaxy.
Duh.
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>>171642506
But there's 0 Sharr's in Galaxy, you can easily check the top100.
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>>171642580
Sure, why don't you go do that for me pal.
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>>171642705
I already did, there are 0.
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>>171642729
They probably switched their Sharrs out for a joke striker to help others climb.
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>>171642974
But then they have to spend more crystals to stay in Universe league, that doesn't sound very good.
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>>171643013
You should know he's just shitposting, everyone in here that is actually at a decent rank knows no one uses Sharr high up anymore since Presty is running around on most teams with 80% DR
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>>171643013
Don't you get it, man? They help all these weak teams get to galaxy so they can use them as stepping stones later on.

>>171643149
>just shitposting
I'm holding things down until the americucks wake up, you ingrate.
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>>171643316
I just got home from work I didn't know (^:
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Please rework the point system, I wanna win for once during timeout too.
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>>171644539
I was thinking the same thing earlier, lost on timeout to a fucking bora team somehow
>>
CQ CQ CQ!
>>
When's the annnniversary
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>>171646683
soonnn
>>
What did they give out last year for anniversary?
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>>171646895
5* pick box, 2m gold (2 years, so maybe 3m this time) and a random unique
Don't remember if there was more
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>>171647034
Was it classic star pick box only?
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>>171647074
Season 1
>>
>10
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>>171647034
I think it was a unique pick ticket as well, not random
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How do you break a Duran-Aiolos-Jiho-Shu-Presty line?
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>>171650343
You don't, either give up the match or wait the 20 or so minutes for it to draw
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>>171650343
If they have Jiho and Aiolos on the sides just give up, otherwise you can pray for a 1v1 from a Balth pass
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>>171650674
Yeah I won so that's probably what happened. Lucky CA into balth active solo shot
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>got Kyosuke

he doesn't seem impressive at all,
the 10% atb to line when someone in line attacks seems it could have some niche use, maybe in a 4man kirin line ?..
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>>171652839
He's ardor' future cm when he gets an EE
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>suddenly facing a bunch of mono ardors in champs
I love free wins so much
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Remember when Isillia was a good girl studying hard?
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>Just died to a Kyoko
I thought she was a meme?
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>>171653905
Bruh, you shit.
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>>171653905
She's not horrible. The reason she's a meme is because ardor already has a cavalcade of strong strikers so she brings nothing to the table.
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>>171653686
There's a mega folder with original 588*882 higher quality images with upscaled versions too, if you weren't aware
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>>171653686
and now she gets turned on by the thought of getting hit
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>>171655501
I've been wondering where people were getting the better versions, but I haven't been able to find it.
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>>171656034
https://mega.nz/#F!o1UBhBaD!HDwT2jivkR6nE31WIxhwmQ

/art/HighTextures/ (2014 ~ 2016/09/12)
/art/NewHighTextures/ (2016/09/30 ~ present)
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I rather deal with yolo teams honestly.
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>>171656341
thanks
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>>171656490
>Jin
Easy.
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>>171656550
Go away wwfag not everyone uses William or Sharr.
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>>171656490
butthole cancers
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Would Chitose help me at all? Second shot with a Baltheon active.

Next match, again monodark with Lucid. Two shot. And it's still champs Lucid, not even the Galaxy people
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>>171657695
Yes
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>>171656490
Well, at least it isn't Leventor or Lucid
>>
>Tried to search Mamuru on club list
>Contains an invalid character
Kek
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>>171657875
It's a bad club, why would you try to search for it?
>>
>>171657951
I was bored
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>>171657951
See me in club esports
we'll see whos a bad club
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>>171658086
Mamuru was irrelevant when Irene was released and all clubs got active
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>>171658216
smells like fish
see me in club esports pussy
meow meow
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>>171657695
>use Kevin and B.Ivy on backline
>no Chitose
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>>171658673
Mine is just evolved and 3 superb, before people started bandwagonning to Lucid I could hold against most Ravian so I never finished investing in Chitose

Little I knew how retarded Lucid was
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>>171639342
Nnoel sadly doesn't play anymore I really enjoyed his videos and teams ; ;
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Silla, I love.
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>>171659081
Well what i'm saying is you're pretty much missing the key player on having a bully backline.
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Uriel is olev.
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>>171661504
Nerfs when?
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>>171661504
Hello beautiful.
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>>171661556
Never, a sidegrade maybe.

>>171661583
Patrician tastes.
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>>171661726
I wouldn't mind if they boosted her dmg but removed that AB bullshit
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>>171661726
I was talking about you.
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>homo ERPing in MY /ssg/
Stop this right now and include me
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>>171661504
Jesus fucking christ those toes are horrible.
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>>171661783
Sorta agree, but doubt BB will ever rework her.

>>171661816
(y-you) too
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>>171661937
Im not a footfag, but they are perfect
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>>171661913
No one is ERPing though, yet
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Well, fuck.

>monoardor Lucian with 3,6k~ hp
>Shu using his active and killing my backline every time
>he can't get CAd and his dmg is way too high for him to lose the ball
>Bora eating my spirit bar
I tip him my hat for this Shu usage, but fuck Bora. William is honestly more balanced
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>>171661937
You don't see them in game, so maybe the artist stopped caring once he got down there.
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>>171665658
me on the right
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>>171665658
me on the left
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>>171665973
Battler pls go away
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Psst.

Hey anon. Do you have $110?
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>>171666638
I don't spend money on girls unless your my waifu or my girlfriend you're neither.
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>>171640257
>shitters stop using Duran as consequence for some reason
That'd be delicious
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>>171663846
>losing to bora
KeK fuck off step up your game shitter xd
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>my star's tears got 10 crit damage
>my db got 10% DR
I'm ready to day fampai
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>>171666638
I have spent less on better whores.

Nera skin
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>>171627467
This is a nice meme from poor/bad players.
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Too close.
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Champs in a nutshell:
>Presty
>Duran
>Lucid
>Jibril
One of these at minimum per match, Aiolos+Duran is also suffering.
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>>171667983
Indeed too close, I can't even check the dmg
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>full balmung stacks
>active pass from qtpilla
>solo shoot
>maximum damage my shanti can do to presty is this
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>>171667983
Thanks I'm sending this to BB as we speak.
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>>171668165
>william can kill presty with duran/jiho
And these faggots keep crying?
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>start of the match
>choi gets the ball
>destroys my line
>passes to baltheon
>active to bora
>active pass
>3k damage
I'm done
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>>171668601
Yep, sounds about right.
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>>171668745
Without a Balth even. Ardor and Presty/dork gutting when
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>>171669005
Now, imagine the damage he would've done with Baltheon/Celus instead of renee/kevin
>but too slow
Put a Cynthia and Fenrir in backline
>but muh backline
Time to go OHKO
He just proved it can kill even Presty. Now you have no reason to cry and just blame yourself for being shitter ardorcunts
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>>171668745
William shouldn't be hard affect by Presty, he now can get good pen and he starts with retarded crit dmg
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>>171668745

Beatrice and other power strikes can OHKO her through Duran if they use a 4-man front.

William with elemental disadvantage doing it is impressive though.
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>>171669395
>that vf
HOW
LITERALLY
HOW
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I hope BB listen to me
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>>171669497

Nera pass, and VF has two pen stones plus FTS.
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>>171669504
>comlaining about the crit damage resistance
This only proves El Rape was a mistake
Duran is fine, strikers are too strong, and if he's everywhere is because it's the only way to try and survive their bullshit
I agree on Presty's paralysis and cd and Jibril shit though.
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>>171669837
El Repayon is fine on other GKs because they don't get a free absurd amount of critcal dmg res like Presty. In that example she has 148%, like only monothunder Leventor or William can start with positive % against this, other will "crit" for no extra dmg unless they stack SoB or something but then this guy had Aiolos to remove that.
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>>171669231
Reason i use monoardor is the William ace.
Can't do that with Balth/Celus combo.
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>>171670118
>Can't do that with Balth/Celus combo.
>not just using his Ace regardless of your team
kek
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>>171669504
>el rape gives 25 cdr
>presty increases 30
>that ends up in more than 100%
I'll call bullshit on your claim
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>>171670249
He'll lose his ace burst which is so important
Even though Celus and Baltheon will provide more raw damage in the end considering what they bring to the table..
But without ace burst this wouldn't work anon.
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>>171670474
>>presty increases 30
It's 44% if everyone is active on the field.
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>>171669504
Doing god's work anon, I hope they listen.
Now, I hope they listen to my complaints about yolo teams
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>>171670684
30% Is what I mean
44 + 25x1.30 gives only 76.5
So, Aiolos must be there too, just looking at her critical damage
Therefore, his whole shitting on that has been disproven.
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>saving dstones for presty
>saving crystals for when glayde has increased rates
>already have hypermaxed jin
Finally I'll have a counter against every single striker
I'll be invincible!
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>>171669504
>137% crit chance
More than my striker has after alice/kevin/serestia/edm debuffs
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>>171671038
>So, Aiolos must be there too, just looking at her critical damage
There was an Aiolos, but it's funny that you imply Presty has a low critical damage resistance.
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>9 already
Just when I thought we were alive.
Im going to sleep too tired after wageslaving early morning.
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>>171674074
>Just when I thought we were alive.

We had activity here until 30 minutes ago when the entire internet stopped to watch the kemono friends livestream, and then nearly broke twitter when it ended,
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>>171672720
Where am I implying it?
I'm implying you're bullshit and your claim is dishonest, which it ended up being correct.
>>171674860
Kemono what?
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>>171665973
sage EE when?
i want to his boipucci
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>>171665973
>you'll never taste presty's lolipussy
>you'll never be crushed by breasty's milky breasts
Why even bother living?
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>>171675217
and i want yours
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>khirel with wise man's trail, double ardor hp and ardor crit
Yay or nay?
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>Never saw this player in league even once
His EE gonna be great r-right?
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>>171676036
As good as Butcher's
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>>171676036
he kind of his the new celus to some extent,
will his EE be good tho ?....

find out in the next episode of...

BB squad Z the broken balance
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>found kyoko in league
>this is all the damage she did after elaine active, shura active and her own active
Buffs when?
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I'm out of the loop. Do we get sneak peeks on friday, or preview tomorrow this week?
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>>171676668
Pretty sure it's still on friday.
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>>171676603

Looked like they just loaded her with Sharr's stones and didn't do a proper pen build.
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>>171677289
It had glab, double ardor crit damage and ardor dribble
I'm sure it would've been stronger with ww pen instead of one crit damage, but still she's a clusterfuck of a player that doesn't know what she's good at and ends up being good at nothing
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>even lynbell doubts me
Feels bad man
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>>171676603
>not a crit
No shit the damage is going to be awful
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Should i get baltheon with d stones, wait for jiho to become classic and buy her, or wait for the new ardor legendary? I do have metatron as well.
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>>171679327
If you wanna go rainbow, Baltheon is very good for PvP and PvE
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>>171679327
>monoardor with willy ace
disgusting wait for jiho
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>>171678456

This is why it would be more helpful to show their status screen while they take the shot, so we can actually see where they are falling short.

What buffs do they typically get from their mid/front team mates? What debuffs were they hit with? Etc.
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>>171667983
>bragging about winning with william
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Sometimes the starting ab's are complete shit so Kevin needs to step it up.
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How the fuck are you people OHKO'ing presty from full health in spite of duran

I do like 600 dmg with balth active and griff isn't that fucking bad
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>>171681315

>it's another elaine episode
>Elaine, choi and vic carried the entire match
>nothing could break out past any of them as always
>even dark players exploded when touching them

So nothing has really changed?
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>>171681352

5k+ dribble, 100% pen and over 300% crit damage helps

But if anything goes wrong in the pass order or you fall short on spirit it can fuck that up and you get only a 4k dribble shot with barely 200% crit damage behind it, and that may only wound Presty.
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>>171681857
>Bitches still crying about perfectly balanced things
Yup, same as ever.
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>>171683719

The dark players really were helpless. Poor Alice.

Also why did that Duran explode when he tried to steal from William? Duran had full health and can safely break out through strikers after that 25% reflect damage thing.
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>>171683867
Choi pass i guess.
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>used Chitose as someone told me
>Isillia was still 3 shot by Balth/Jibril/SoB Lucid
>Balth combo finished for 2,8k crit, not a solo shoot
Well, I guess I can only prey to finish the match quickly or make an OHKO team.
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>>171687152
Are you running her along with BI/Virgil and Kevin?
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>>171687152
desu I'm just having problems with Presty and BT.
Other GKs aren't too difficult to deal with.
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>>171687152
just post your shitty isillia and we will make her presty tier
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>>171687674
>bt
>not jin
Buffs when?
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>>171687674
That's the problem, I can't KO Presty fast enough because of that retarded paralysis. I am even using Askeladd to make an extra shoot against that bitch
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>>171683719
>perfectly balanced things

Are ardor players actually more pathetic than WW players at defending their broken element?
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>>171689116
Yes.
At least wwfags shut the fuck up from time to time and most are too occupied waifuposting or complaining on ardorshit instead of defendint their broken shit unironically
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Can anyone explain me why elemental advantage STILL exists in this game? It creates more problems than fixing something, it's one of the biggest cancers, and still no one complains about it?
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>>171689767
Because ww exists and without it every element would be destroyed by those fags.
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>>171689767
>creates more problems
It just solves a problem that we don't have. The biggest problem is that rainbow is much better than anything else.

If rainbow suddenly became shit, and everyone went back to mono/hybrids, elemental advantage would be the only thing preventing one element from being too dominant.
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>>171689956
>complaining about ww when it's dark, ardor and thunder dominating high leagues
>>171690081
Rainbow is the strongest in one part because it avoids elemental bullshit by having everything mixed up shitting on everyone, and most importantly encompasses the biggest cancers of the whole game.
Without elemental advantage/resistance bullshit, we'd have only the second problem to worry about, and then neither wwfags or thunderfags can complain about being killed by ardor and ww, and it'll allow us to see what shit is truly broken
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>>171689956

Ardor would destory WW or any other non-dark just as easily without element advantage.

Dark only recently has been able to put up a fight against ardor, but player for player ardor still easily outclasses dark.
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>>171690643
>Dark can put up a fight
This faggot here seems to be having an easy time even against the most broken backlines and he's mono ardor.
>>171667983
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>>171690847

But in general Dark does pretty good against ardor now, compared to how they were completely raped by them last year.
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>>171690592
>and it'll allow us to see what shit is truly broken
>he thinks that is good
>he thinks you can't already see that by looking at the rainbow teams
Rainbow is not good because it avoids elemental advantage, rainbow is good because you can use all the broken players together.

Proof of that is that rainbow is the only way to play the game ever since the beginning when elemental advantage wasn't buffed.
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Rate my damage on first shot on a crit
Well, technically third one, but >gaphyl
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>WW isn't broken guys...
>i-it's rainbow that's broken!
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>>171692154

Correct. Typing it in greentext doesn't somehow make that not true.
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>>171692154
WWfags redirecting blame again
just ignore them
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>>171691671
It was always like that, and forever will be like that
But, with elemental advantage your stronger element will always be broken to you, so thunderfags will forever think ww is broken because they always lose against it, wwfags against ardor the same, etc.
It's the first step towards real balance, to have every element being equal to each other and then we'll see which character is broken in reality and not just against it's elemental advantage or just tone it down, shit
I know this kind of elemental garbage is standard to rpgs, but this is not the average rpg, this shit can't play by the same rules, or it creates the problem where you either forfeit against the color you're weak against or you go rainbow. if you don't want to die pathetically
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>>171692009

Why are you shooting against Jiho? That activates her totems.
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>>171692541
Clearly he is a hardcore player
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>>171692154
>>171692425
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Thoughts on Luri as CM?
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>>171692810
ok
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>>171692810
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>>171692935
Dumpster cock? Why is it "dumpster cock"?
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@171692779

Don't ever fucking reply to me again unless it's an intellectual fact or pertains to the discussion you cum-guzzling faggot
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>>171692991
garbage
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@171692779
We know ww ball is real, wwcuck.
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>>171692474
>thunderfags will forever think WW is broken
And that will be true even if they reverse elemental advantage.

Elemental advantage makes it so that small gaps in power are under control. If somehow rainbow was removed from the game, one of the attributes would be stronger than the others, even if by a small margin, and that would make most players use that attribute only, elemental advantage would solve that problem, since every time a mono became too dominant, another element would also become popular as a counter and even out the numbers.

The only way to make it truly balanced was to give copies of every player to every color, but it would just shit on the game, since this is the worst kind of balancing.
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>>171692541
I prefer Kyoko needing one shot more to kill the enemy GK than
>shoot kevin
>jiho gets the ball
>destroys the entire line
>passes to frontline
In the end it allows the enemy to shoot against me each time I manage to shoot, by her getting the ball or Gaphyl getting it, so it reduces their chances to reach my front, therefore the enemy killing me sooner.
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>171693031 thinks he is an intellectual
Good WWfag, keep on getting pegged by Duran and Aiolos like the good submissive slave you are
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>>171691594
we've come a long way from when people used to tell me about dark bullying.
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>>171693295
And that's exactly what they're doing with elaine, sharr and angela copies

>>171693195
I'll bite
>evylin is still shit
>ernesto ee is only in ww or ww heavy teams, whereas milky and elaine are in every kind of team, and off color
>aiolos still only in a handful of teams, unlike kevin, presty, jiho, and gaphyl, three of them ardor, two of them 5*
>complains about khirel buff when is shu the dominating legendary attacker, followed by duke
>complains about no uriel buffs guess now I see who's behind this post
>complains about irre who is still shit
>complains about staple ww frontline being ww only
>thinks ww uses 4man front when it's replaced evylin, who as stated, is shit, for elchitusa, who's actually pretty good too good I'll admit
>complains about shit that happens in champs
>thinks vonchi is the only viable light striker
>complaining about new ww boss when it was the only element with a single boss
See, when you focus your attention on only one element, you start seeing everything on favor of said element.

>>171693670
Yeah, ironic, isn't it? In the end
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Does backline BT do anything? I put her for Reversed Cycle II for Irre, I'm guessing I should stack pass stones on her to compliment Good Cycle, but that's only if she doesn't try to pen or steal
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>>171693195

>that rant

Densuo is even more angry and irrational than usual this week. He is a lifetime mono-thunder player in a club named after thunder. He is mad because WW is less terrible in 2017 than they were in 2016.

He has never climbed galaxy and barely hit 2600 once or twice when thunder was at it's peak. In the diamond/champ leagues (where WW teams are most commonly found) he is apparently having a hard time.

If he could reach end game he would discover there are more dangerous backlines than kiki+Jin+Magnus out there.
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Just shot my first BR and I'm out for more blood, anybody want to live pvp?
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>>171694616
Just use Isillia in backline if you want to be memeish.
>>171694654
I can see him feeling like pic related
Funny thing is even in this pic the enemy was rainbow
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About spirit stones

Obviously striker gets damage things like crit rate, crit damage, receiving pass, etc.

GK gets defensive things like health, damage resist, crit resist, etc.

In-line passers would want stronger passes. ...and action speed?

Attackers would want damage things if they have counterattack resist in their kits. Would they want reflex if they don't?

Then reflex for defenders and most leaders, forward/long passers?

Just talking generally with the non-unique stones.
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>>171693670
Remove Presty and dark is shit again.
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Team is sorta coming together.

Luka | Milky | Sharr
Beth | Lia | Choi
Gaphyl | Erica | Virgil | Kiki
BT

I'm assuming I basically want Elaine and Renee up front and Magnus and Kevin in the back.

And then eventually to make an entirely new front for Shanti if I get her.

Any other changes I should consider making in the foreseeable future to have a decent team to start progressing with (aka nothing to do with legendaries)?
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>>171695184
If the attackers have low base reflex then giving them reflex stones would be a waste, you'd rather give them 1 or 2 CAR stones if you can. Not sure what other attackers have decent reflex but for example I build Roina with double reflex stone since she naturally already does a lot of damage and can also reliably CA opponents
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>>171694527
>And that's exactly what they're doing with elaine, sharr and angela copies

Elaine has no copy, not even a close approximation in any other elements. There isn't even a frontline legend that is her equal.
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>>171695613
i'd say limburger and patty being so close together really helped quite a bit.
a lot of dark stuff just kind of happened all at once.
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>>171694527
>And that's exactly what they're doing with elaine, sharr and angela copies
Where?
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>>171695184
You're correct on striker, gk and in line passers
Attackers NEVER get reflex unless they're named Shu. Give them crit, crit damage and pen. If you can, use dak pen since gives pen and counterattack resist
About defenders and leaders, depending on the role you'll give them, give them either reflex, or a damage kit. Usually a combination of both can work
On forward passers and long passers pass, speed and reflex works fine

>>171695674
Luka Milky will work fine for Shanti, so don't worry about that. Only change that when you get Baltheon or Elchitusa
Replace Erica for Magnus and Kiki for Kevin when you get them
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>>171695979
Keep Virgil even though he's off-color? (Using Lia ace)
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>>171695795
Not only Elaine, but Sharr also has no equal. No one clears PvE content with as much ease as she does.
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>>171695184
attacker stones depend on who
someone with crit rate in their kit would want crit damage, either red DI or dark healing, though ideally all attackers would crit. midline attackers shouldnt need CAR because midlines are supposed to stack reflex like (Lynia in a thunder mid) and backline should be getting at least one CAR totem and a stone
leaders and long passers also pertain to their strengths, like Cynthia's stupid critdamage or Elaine's everything
usually stones are better off complementing strengths rather than covering weaknesses
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>>171695963
>ernesto, armel
>griffith, damien, shanti
>glayde
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>>171695915

Patty is pretty solid, and even post-nerf serestia was a game changer.

Dark is fighting opponents that have 50% hp at the coin flip. Literally just 480hp midline obstacles to swat aside.
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>>171696197
Patty makes me solid
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>>171696134

>Ernesto is a copy of Eliane
>without the powerful active
>with only half the offensive totem power
>no 100% reflex when attacked
>instead he gains action speed when attacked (?????)

At least he has slightly more DR than Elaine but he is still far from being her equal.
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>>171695915
There's a reason people say to not go mono dark without Presty. Maybe it's changed since Zibroi and Ronald were buffed, but I haven't been seeing them around so I can't tell.
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>>171696134
I thought you were retarded when you mentioned Ernesto as an Elaine copy. But I were sure you are retarded when you said that Griffith is a Sharr copy.

Do you even know what a copy is?
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>>171696535
That's why he's a copy
Not even on par with the original, who has avoided nerf hammer multiple times, and somehow got a buff
>>171696605
>similar toolkits
>similar use
>one weaker than the other in one or more regards
>not a copy
Next thing you'll say is that Cheetos isn't a copy of Nerua
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>>171696565
zibroi has been good to me, but i do have to say that before all the buffs i was struggling constantly.
i actually am winning quite a lot more now.
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>>171696708
>similar toolkits
I can see more differences than similarities in their toolkits.

You have never seen mobages with copies of players in every element, have you?
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>>171697047
No. I don't play crap except for this
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>>171697047
>other games have it worse so you can't complain!
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>>171693195
Why is the element that has an advantage over me able to beat me?
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>>171697139
Stop talking about shit you don't know then.

>>171697162
The whole point was that other mobages did that and it is shit. So trying to balance the game by making copies of every element is retarded, and since they making copies are retarded, they need something to balance out the elements, and this is where elemental advantage comes into place.
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>>171697470
>they're not exact copies, so they're not copies!
Autists these days..
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>>171697567
>they only have 1 mechanic in common, but they are copies somehow!
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>>171697785
>140% AP + 50% crit
>bonus GK damage
>elemental advantage negation
>not copies
only reason Griffiths isnt 140% is because she has 50% fucking pen
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>>171697785
>same mechanic
>similar move set
>similar intended use
>not copies
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>all these talk about copies not being copies because they're not the same
Guess William isn't a copy of Jin Kazama then.
Also, why did BB deleted Zach if he isn't a copy of another anime character? Didn't they know if they're not exactly the same they're not copies?
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>>171697567
So, you never saw attribute copies in other mobages. You are the autist, since I am using the conventional definition, and you are using your own definition of copy.

>>171697785
They have a bit more than just 1 mechanic in similar, but they have different enough to make one of them absolute shit, and the other broken.
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>>171698371
They had to remove because they were similar enough. Do you really think they can only sue and win if they are copies?
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how would I go about selling my acc? have hypermaxed Vonchi and Beth and a pretty good mono light team as well as enough 5s of other colours to make some good hybrid teams too
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>need elementals to EE qtpila
>get kumas
this isn't fun
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>>171698401
>plays different mobages
>uses dictionary definitions
>calls me an autist for being practical when pointing out similarities
Yeah, not autistic at all
>>171698546
They should've hired the enlightened one from above and they would've realized they're not copies using his dictionary. I mean, it's the only way to interpret that word, isn't it?
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>>171696708
Ernesto doesn't even have the same active. Or gives the same types of buffs/debuffs. It's like saying that Aiolos is a Celus copy, since both can be used on the frontline to help your striker in some way.
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>>171698705
>thinking he is autist for using dictionary definitions
That is some next level autism.
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>>171698882
pretty sure some form of autistic people are 100% specific and factual and if something isnt they have a fit
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>>171698882
>I am not the a-a-a-autist! YOU are for not using dictionaries!!!!
Yeah, nice retour
>>171698752
Both are made to resist enemy penetrations and buff on a pass.
If it makes you happy, Ernesto is more similar to Milky, the original one of this kind, but those three follow the same formula, but differ on what the third skill does and Elaine instead of buffing your striker debuffs the enemy, which is what Armel does too
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>>171698705
Do you even know how copyright infringements works? Read up substantial similarity, it is what they use to determine it, it doesn't need to be a copy.
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>autists arguing with other autists
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>>171699267
Thanks for proving me you're literally autistic.
>>171699284
At least they keep the thread alive. It's something I guess.
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>>171699095
They would probably have killed themselves, since different dictionaries sometimes gives different definitions for the same word.
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Reminder that Kyoko is not a copy of Beatrice even though in practice they're the same
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>no thunder/light/dark renee
fuck ww
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>>171699409
That's why they just use the definition of their own dictionary and keep it as absolute truth and everything that isn't exactly that is incorrect.
>>171699536
>no ww/light/ardor/thunder baltheon
Fuck me instead bby
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>>171699460
More like a Lucid/Beatrice hybrid
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>>171699343
So, I am autistic because I actually know what the fuck I am talking about?
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>>171699714
you're autistic for A. bringing up something nobody cares or was even seriously talking about and B. knowing something so useless and meaningless to anyone that isn't a creative or lawyer
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When are they going to buff Irru?
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>>171700087
Irwho?
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>>171699907
The nigger didn't know shit about how copyright works, and I just fucking stated facts to shut him up. It works, except that now you want to say that it is autistic to bring up facts to a shit throwing contest.
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Well?
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>>171700326
yu wan sum fuccc
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>>171700326
no not yet selena
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>>171700258
you also can't read into conversations or understand implications, something common among those with Aspergers
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>>171700326
Eve just told me the penguin evolution recipe has changed. When did that happen?
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Most annoying thing about autists is literally the screaming they do nonstop, kinda like here.
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>>171700414
>says stupid wrong shit
>it was just an implication! You are an autist!
So, this is the new "I was just baiting!"
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>>171700482
2 or so patches ago
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>>171700258
>bringing up serious facts on a shitposting forum
>taking shit so seriously like his life depended on it
>>171700560
>replying to obvious shitposting because he just has to make his point
Yes, you are an autist.
>>171700326
No. I have no one to try it with
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>>171700619
You should live pvp this guy you are arguing with. Loser leaves /ssg/
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ST, DM, or El Rape for Presty?
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>these autist calling each other autists when they don't know the definition of autist
Fucking autists
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>>171700619
>jumping on the autist train
Everyone on board! This train goes to page 1!
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>named KebabStay
>he's gone
YOU LIED TO ME
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>>171700560
let's backtrack on this
>muh definition of copies
>units that look like copyrighted characters
>well hire this guy BB he uses textbook definitions of "copy" you'll never infringe on anything
in case you don't understand this part, which you don't he means that just because the dictionary says something doesn't mean the world has to adhere strictly to it, the idea of a "copy" doesnt have to be a 100% copy, so anon is making fun of the autist, possibly you, for using such definitions when it clearly won't uphold
you then attempt to correct him about such things without realizing you're saying basically the same thing, and changing the topic to laws and such when anon was just making a comparison to mock someone
do you understand now
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>this argument
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>>171700857
He has a major world religion to run
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Can we just exile these autists tbqh.
They're worse than our current autists
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Armel is literally Elaine.
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>this whole autistic thread
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>>171700993
With a body made for sex
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>>171700987
Just hide their answers, they only post in their own little thread because it looks organical, and wouldn't make sense to not post anything quoting for them.
That's how you combat autists with autism

Have a milky slut
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Well?
Double red pass, SC, and light action speed?
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>>171701378
Fuck off Baltheon copy
I bet you even use dictionaries
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>>171701551
but anon, I'm switching from balth to her
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Worth using after buff?
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>>171701763
What are you running now?
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>>171701763
We sent you 8 dimens....
We sent you 8 dimens....
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>>171701763
He is still one of the worst gks atm. Unless you don't have a 5* he likely isn't an improvement
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Speaking of autists
POST LYNBELL
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>>171701873
erika gk
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>>171701632
Yours will never be like mine so give up
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>>171702225
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>>171702295
Post stones pls
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>>171702295
>more pass than my current balth
how the fuck
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>>171702225
Lucian would be an upgrade over her.
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>>171702295
>Best female passer
>When this exists
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This game is kinda suffering when you need like 3 specific units to finish your first team, isn't it?
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>>171702532
>femme balth
>>>>>>good
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>>171702532
Will these legendary skins be available again at some point, or are they gone forever once their event period is over?
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>>171702832
I wouldn't be surprised if this one came back because it was before galaxy server and there are some assblasted turbowhales
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>>171702532
Wrong pic, sorry.
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>>171702974
Are those hearts in her eyes? I never noticed them before.

She wants criminal-san to rape her?
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>>171702532
>trans balth
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Did I buy the right skin for her?
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>>171704173
my condolences
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>>171704173
no, both her skins are awful
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>elaine is so broken she wants to shoot solo an angela
>WITH 80% Hp
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>>171704665
80%?
>>
>find mono dark
>no presry
>instawin
I wonder if there's a pattern here
>>
>find mono thunder
>no glayse
>instawin
I wonder if there's a pattern here
>>
>find mono ardor
>kyoko
>instawin
I wonder if there's a pattern here
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>>171704826
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>>171705772
>>171705569
>>171705437
>looked PvP National Rankings
>National Universe rank seems separates from Global ranking
>This might be some Trophies stuff
I wonder if there's a pattern here
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>>171706674
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>>171706674
what
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So... is Choi basically the main character of Soccer Spirits?
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>>171707087
If you want to be technical, lots of characters are mcs of different subplots
If you want to be literal, no. That's Sam. He's just of his own subplot as stated above
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>>171707087
Selena is always sending me things, so it's probably me.

Suck it, losers!
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>He actually spends money on this game
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New player here, who doe my team look?

Pls no bully
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>>171707602
Give me your Altair pls.
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>>171707602
im jealous
invest in bell first and place her CM, she can get you through a lot
Luka front, Aiolos back, Cynthia mid and replace Herc in the support slot
you'll probably want to replace Luka with Silla Ace at some point given your team is all over the place
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>>171707602
Put Aiolos in Lynbell's place
Put Lynbell where Luka is
Put Luka where Aiolos was
Then it's a competent enough team for now
Also, FUCK YOU FOR HAVING THREE LEGENDS
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>>171707809
Why bother? she is a much worse Kevin.
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>>171707602
How do you have 3 legends
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>>171707902
Because she's cute!
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hey guys, i just got shanti from free draw i'm so hap->>171707602 o-oh...
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>>171707928
Aiolos was from my first draw
Balth from the level 30 box
Bell from one draw-rate boosted week
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>>171708114
I started with 2 legendaries, but I just haven't been lucky enough to scout/draw another... with my luck, I will soon and just get a dupe.
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>>171707820
What's the advantage of having a CB up front? Is she special or something?

I really don't know
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>>171708209
>started with 2 legends
Luckier than me
>started with jin
>scouted khirel
>drew khirel twice after that
I'M STILL FUCKING LIVID MY GOD WHY
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>>171708676
I mean, I rerolled like crazy. Ended up with Choi and Beth, which wasn't the worst combo, and ran with it.
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>>171708676
>Start with 0 legends
>Get Bell from 30 box
>Draw Bell
>Buy Leventor with Dstones
>Buy Khirel with Dstones
>Find Leventor in scout
>Draw Baltheon from mileage
>Buy Asslad with Dstones

The feeling of drawing a dupe legend is awful.
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>>171707370
How about you suck me
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>>171708964
>tfw played since the very beginning of /mbgg/, hit rank 140 and still haven't drawn a single legend
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>>171708676
That sucks man.

I didn't do any rerolls, got Metatron for my welfare legend. Took two years, but I drew a Bell.

Well, it's been two years since I made my account, but I've probably put in like 1 year of effort.

I'm only interested in cute, waifu legends, so this is pretty lucky for me so far.

Now I'm close to having enough D-stones to pick someone.
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>>171709229
It took me over two years from back when we were still with /mbgg/ for a non dupe legend, so I can almost understand the suffering.
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>>171709292
you should pick __me__
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>>171707602
I've also got Enthia and Leah at level 1 if they'd be better fits. Can anyone tell me whether I should keep them out or if start buying penguin matches for them?
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>>171708964
>drew duke a few weeks after i started the game
>got jin from level 30 box
>bought meta from dshop
>bought balth
>bought shu
>drew ass salad
>bought jiho
>scouted serestia
expecting my very first dupe to be next if i ever get lucky again
>>
Bought an account with 5 legends a year ago after going insane failing to reroll any, still haven't gotten any since then either.
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>started with no legends
>got bell from 30 rank
>bought meta with ds
>bought choi with ds
>bought duran with ds

feelsbadmang
>>
>event box
>tyler
>cot box
>irre
Yay...
I hate my luck. Waiting for that scout event box to see what shit it'll be
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>>171710317
>irre
Lucky fuck
>>
How're you guys getting all these dstones?

$$$?
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>>171707602
>3 fucking legends
>mfw I started with zero legends and now I'm galaxy tier with 4 legends
fucking entitled newfags
>>
How many times has Choi knotted Serestia?
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>>171710317
I got Tyler from event box too, seems fishy.
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I just got 900 d-stones. Should I get Bell now, or wait for Felix to replace a Jury in a Cynthia/x/Lynia midline.
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Are utility strikers balanced now or are they still op?
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>>171711015
>males
>>171711274
they're garbage again
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>>171711274
They suck.
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Started with nothing
>William lvl 30 box
>Mileage Choi
>Mileage Shu
>Bought Meta
>Bought Asslad
>Want Duran next

Wiiliam and Shu benched.
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>>171710886
CoT/CoD/League

Or opening wallet for quick dickstones.
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>>171711015
Felyx is far better
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>>171711487
Is it best to focus on one aspect first or go for PvE and PvP ds at the same time?
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>>171711956
Focus PvE, a PvE team can still climb league.
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>>171712104
So focus on investing in my Sharr for now, and if I find Shanti put her on the backburner?
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>>171712287
Shanti is fine for pve
>>
selfish buffs and single opponent debuffs should have a 25 minute cd
teamwide buff/debuff and ally buff should have a 45minute cd
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>>171713124
you should suck a dick
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>>171712402
Shanti is fine, but Sharr's better for PVE
Shanti is better for PVP
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>>171713124
What did he mean by this?
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>>171713326
t. elaine/ernesto/milky user
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>>171713124
You know what else?
Totems should be nerfed by 80 percent
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>>171711274

They're shit. Only Vonchi ever see use now, because he was the least affected by the nerf.
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>>171714570
>>
I paid good money and worked hard to get hot cards like Lucid and Alkyde, I had a great Dark team and they went and censored all my cards.

HATE this game.

How to mismanage an IP, Korea edition
>>
non stacking strikers should have zero reflex
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>>171715249
Stacking strikers should have zero damage.
Specially Kirin and Bora
Fuck them both
>>
>>171715447
There's nothing wrong with Bora
just like there was nothing wrong with Angela
it's not them, its units that emphasize their strengths while also being strong on their own, such as Elaine and Duran
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>>171713124
say you are going that route you would do selfish = 5-10min depending on power and teamwide/aoe = 15-20min depending on power.

>>171715013
if destiny child can have that level of lewd why can't we get the original art back?
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Is Presty the best gk or is Jin the best gk?
>>
>>171716470
>Jin
>good
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>>171715013
>i paid good money
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>>171716721
He worked hard for that money, anon!
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>>171716721
Spend time making money.

Spend money to save time.
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>>171717441
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>>171715729
>its units that emphasize their strengths while also being strong on their own
>implying Bora alone isn't strong
>stack crit per active and also gain a 30% boost on shoot
>destroy your spirit bar so you can't use actives
>she can max AB easily after shooting, so if she doesn't get to move or attack the AB bar will be going fast as she missed an action
Yeah, totally balanced!
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>>171717657
She's a worse Ravian, anon.
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>>171717657
>stack per active
read the patch notes, its useless and no different from any other stacking striker
>max AB Bora ready to suicide??
on top of that you have the return damage making stacking strikers even more garbage
the Spirit steal I can kind of agree with, but take that away and she's got nothing, worse than all other strikers in fact
other stacking strikers have +25% AP per stack, plus their gimmick (GK damage, HP damage, Paralyze etc) she only gets 20-25% AP total, and only during shoot
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>>171718013
>read the patch notes, its useless and no different from any other stacking striker
>"utility strikers are now useless"
How to spot a memer

>>171718013
>implying she will always get to attack your backline just to suicide and not what I posted

I am almost sure Borafags and the same sneaky cunts that would use Lucid.
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>>171719108
what's the use of her active if the stats only apply on active? besides the obvious "when she uses it" on top of the return nerfs stacking strikers are garbage ball holders, while willy and sharr and such do the same thing
if she gets the ball back before her action bar resets a second time she won't have active anyway, resulting in a tickle of a shot because unlike lucid, she doesn't have a huge rec. pass booster, and that's even if she gets a normal pass and not an automatic one because like you said, her action bar is going much faster
>>
>already reached champs
I feel this season is easier than the last one
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>>171720817
No one asked you, cancer-kun.
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>>171720915
Come here and suck my cock bronze-chan, I know you like it
>>
I'd appreciate it if you didn't argue in MY /ssg/
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>full hp gaphyl tries to kill my khirel
>dies
>kevin tries to pen my khirel
>succeeds
I don't get it
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>>171721436
Gaphyl softened him up, duh
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Is this good damage?
Shura active
No active, no Elaine either
It was a mono ardor line...
With a 3man back with shu/gaphyl/kevin
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>>171722616
>1v1
no
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When's the Black Ivy nerf happening?
>>
>>171723175
After Gayphil's
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>>171723175
What would you nerf?
If it's about CR, I doubt it
If it's the invincibility frame, Gaphyl is worst
If it's about the debuff, it's temporary so it's balanced in the long run
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>People actually unironically think Gaphyl is better than BI and needs a nerf first
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>>171723356
The CR, it's retarded.

45% crit res permanently for GK. About 51% or something if Jiho ace.
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>>171723526
If he wasn't better he wouldn't be in more teams than her
>>171723604
Imagine that on Glayde
Damn, bitch'd be invincible
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>>171723672
He isn't in more teams than her in the top100.
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>>171723756
And in the top 10 you barely see either if any
>>
Duran was a mistake
>>
Reflection change was a mistake
>>
Official /ssg/ GK power ranking
>Isillia
>Presty
>Glayde
>fuck the rest
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>>171724375
>being this wrong
Real list from a Galaxy TM member is
>El Rape Irre
>PoME Irre
>DM Irre
>ST Irre
>PC Irre
Everything else is not worth it
>>
>presty's defense with a blue defense stone, duran, lindberg and affection chain activated
MUH
>>
>>171723604
>wanting to nerf 45 CR when trikers nowadays reach 300 crit easily
No.
>>
>/ssg/ says Bell is worst legend
>Current rank 1 universe is using Bell
Really makes you think.
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>>171725426
List these strikers that can reach 300% critical after kevin/Jin/Ebm debuffs
>>
>fighting ww/dark duran/presty team
>45 minutes
>won
Nice.
>>
>>171725971
>lucid
>william
>leventor
>bora
>latios
>kirin
There you go
>>
>>171725338
how much?
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>>171726103
>lucid
>william
>leventor
On an active shot with a 12 minute cool down.

>bora
>latios
>kirin
After 12 minutes have passed and praying that the other team isn't using Aiolos.
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>>171725576
Rank 1 universe could be using a fucking 2* team, you have no proof that they actually use it over one of their other 5 teams
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>>171726189
At least 1.2k since without affection chain enemy Presty had 1.1k
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>>171726254
I've matched him 3x last week, he uses that. The mid line is really hard to get past unless you have an attacker in the backline.
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>>171726336
>away wins get you league points now
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>face another kyoko team
>this is the team
>suddenly she does great damage
Look Kyokofag, this is how you make a good Kyoko
With Choi, Jiho, Elaine and Renee
>>
>>171726374
He has a YOLO team which he obviously uses too, but it's a 3 man front so there's bound to be a few teams he can't use that team on. Rest of his slots are clearly PvE, and he has two teams set up similarly to his PvP slot, both using Bell.
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>>171726231
>he doesn't run balth/elaine-shura
>thinks many people use aiolos
This is why bronzies have no say on e-sports
>>
>>171727107
>have to run cookie-cutter front just to deal with CR stacking/CR debuffs
>>
>>171728494
And this is why you'll be forever a bronzie.
>>
>>171727107
>You literally have to use one of two front line setups where one is a Legend to counter BI CR stacking
Wow yeah she sure seems fine to me!
>>
Jibril's revive skill really shouldn't be procced when someone from mid reaches top and then passes.

Really annoying when my backline player kills Jibril, then dies at mid, then their CM reaches top and passes which will both revive Jibril and heal the GK, then the process repeats itself with another dumbass killing her.

It's Jury front cancer all over again, a unit which becomes strong (or stronger) because the AI is braindead and won't stop to consider penetrating through the sides to avoid killing Jibril.
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>>171728582
>bi stacking
>when he also put a setup of a specific backline to deal with
>complaining because i'm using a specific setup to counter another specific setup
Seriously...
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>>171728737
Don't kill Jibril, you retards. I don't understand why you can't follow this simple instruction.
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>>171726806

Bell could be any speed totem, along with BI, to help his IC Choi win for YOLO. That troll team is annoying as fuck with every pass draining AB.

His serious climbing team is a carbon copy of Innox's (before he replaced uriel ace with Elchitusa). That is a proven fast climbing team and most whales will be running a verions of it in last day of top 20.
>>
>>171728929
Tell that to the AI
>>
>>171728929
>just don't kill her lol, so simple
Retard
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>>171728929
Sure just let me put 2 long passers in my backline so Jib/Balth can OHKO me.
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Just a reminder to everyone that only shitters can't work around Jibril.
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>>171729472
>btw I'm a Jibril abuser
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If I already have 50 pen, what's better an extra18 pen or 12 DI?
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>>171730561
What striker?
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>>171730916
Lucid
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>>171730561
pen
DI doesn't do shit, you shoot a a GK and his DR goes up one or two points
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>>171731378
That's because of dark HP stones, it would go up even more if you had no DI.

Internally, DI and pen work pretty similarly.
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>enemy balth is dead
>willy has the ball
>due to him shooting like five times he has full health so no one dares to even attack
>stalls eternally
>baltheon wakes up
>willy pass to baltheon
>balth active passes
>william active shots
>game's done
Oh, the little things that make you want to kill yourself
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>>171731804
Doesn't pen fall off at some point? I remember it used to work differently before a nerf a long while back.
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EoTS Magnus or EBM Kevin?
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>>171731804
your striker can have, at most, 28% DI but 100% pen
would you rather cut through that 80% DR (40%)
or only chop at it (50%) because DI stones kept the DR at 65% or whatever
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>>171730561
Why does everyone always forget there's also 22% crit damage with the DI?
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>>171732721
>critting
>when bi exists
KEK u wot m8 xd nerf when amirite?
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>that ww cancer
Nerfs when?
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>>171732796
BI isn't a problem by herself. It's a combination of BI/Alice/Serestia/Kevin/Silk that makes gks uncrittable.

>>171732893
Speak of the devil.
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>>171732893
>Silk BI Alice and Kevin with EBM
Just get 300+ crit right :^)
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>>171732961
I have bigger concerns since I do have a respectable frontline and I'm not a bitch complaining for a problem when I don't want to follow up the solution
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>>171733046
The CR stacking isn't even the biggest problem, its the fact you get to the front line and your shit is sitting at 40 action speed and they are on 80+ so you spend 5minutes juggling the ball up and down before you make your first shot, then they just heal and have full action bar again.
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>>171733165
That's where your midline has to stop them and bring the ball to your front
Easy as counting
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>>171733207
>Implying Meta doesn't explode to BI with real stones
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>Freyja has over 3k reflexes
>doesn't matter, all WW have 100% CAR against thunder so they never get CA'd
love the balance in this game
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>>171733283
>not using felix in those situations
Shitters will never learn
>>171733298
>the stronger element always pens the element it has advantage against
Yeah, only ww thing
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>WW is allowed to have litterally uncounterable players like Khirel and Duran
>thunder is allowed to have dogshit legends like Bell, 5* tier legends like Lev, and get their only half-decent legends nerfed while WW get their already strong legends buffed
LOVE THE BALANCE IN THIS GAME
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>>171733349
>BI is too strong
>Y-you just need Balth and Shura and Elaine
>BI is still too strong
>Y-you just need a Felix to replace your meta with
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>>171733482
>complains about 5 players
>focus only on one to complain about
>mentioned shura and elaine separately as in they're interchangeable
>you can even use them both and not baltheon in the same equation
>he decides to put the three together as an absolute requirement
See? This is called a fallacy.
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>>171733468
>monothunder is allowed to be the strongest mono element of them all, competing with rainbow for a long time, years before monoburst
>now that they lost all that due to balance they complain like everyone did against them, specially lightfags
Oh, the poetic irony
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>>171733784
Mono thunder was never on par with rainbow, just competitive enough to be worth building.
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Wish all thunder players would just kill themselves desu

Crying about WW is hilarious, they're fucking nowhere to be found in top PvP
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Wish all WW players would just kill themselves desu

Crying about Ardor is hilarious, they're fucking nowhere to be found in top PvP
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I think the last time the state of PvP in this game was so shit was pre-heal nerfs 2 or 3 years ago.
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>>171734667
Haven't seen a WW player cry about Ardor for quite some time

Most were smart and used Shanti. Thunder users seem to be unable to adapt, Griffith is right there available to them.
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>>171734834
I use Griffith and I really enjoy not having a second passive
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>>171734834

Pretty sure most of these "Thunder users" crying aren't even using Thunder.

Like Saviours of Thunder for example
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>>171734930
>FREE 50% pen
I'm not seeing the problem here.
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>>171735048
>Duran + DM Jin/BT
lets not forget Griffith has to work hard for crits but Duran shaves off some of the damage and DM lowers your chances of critting in the first place
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I'll just press the stop button.
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>>171735796

Yeah that's right Darknigger know your place
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>>171735048
>Presty with Duran removes 52% pen
>thus nullying Griff's entire passive and a big part of what's supposed to allow her to do damage
They should buff Griff to 75% pen desu, or buff her other crappy passive
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>>171735887
Limited break should be changed to a crit/critdamage
50/40 sounds good
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>>171735887
Or nerf Duran
and meta
and Balth
probably look at JIb too

cancer rainbow legends are the worse
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Guys I noticed William looks like Sasuke.
And Leventor looks like Vergil. Bell looks like Saber too.
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>>171736173
>>171736194
>300+ crit 250+ critdamage Griffith
I'll take the Griffith skill rework thanks
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>>171736452

ok
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>>171736452
No they don't get a dictionary
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>find griffith
>vero/luka/ic qtpila
>she actually does good damage against my jin/magnus
>forgot to screenshot the team/stones
Next time i find a good one i'll screenshot the team and post it so thunderfaga know how it's done
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>>171736173
Just change that one other skill so Griff-chan deals 150% extra damage to gks.
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>>171736635
I always wish you could see the team preview AFTER the match. That way when someone beats me I can learn why I lost.
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>>171736673
Click on their team in the bracket.
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>>171736635
>ic qtpila
Why
I run Guin SC Karpila and SHoT Griffith with 2 blue rec pass and green pen (also +15% rec pass)
At max stacks Karpila is the closest thing to Baltheon, sitting at a 2500 pass to a ~250/220 90pen Griffith who doesn't crit
Is this "how it's done"
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>>171736173
30 atk, crit and aspd for 20 mins on shot would be good buff

not too huge, just a nice change to make it easier to crit and do damage
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>>171736510
But
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Why is Orses Khirel tier in terms of penetrating anything?
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https://www.withhive.com/help/notice_view/21105

Small patch tomorrow (bug fixes, no new characters or EEs, Yukata Eve)
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>>171739045
Well, finally. Took them long enough to fix the assist AI
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>>171739297
does that mean they'll stop fucking shooting
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>>171739587
Fixed the bug where assists didn't shoot at every opportunity
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>>171739045
I assume this is mostly so they can put in an event?
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