/civ4xg/ - Strategy/4X General Anonymous

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>>171562870
first for cosmic illiminati

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2nd for Aurora

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3rd for Jesus

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>>171564065
source?

>>171565478
>le diversity

>>171565478
looks like >>171564065
is stargate atlantis?

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WHY CANT WE HAVE UTOPIA NOW! I CANT WAIT ANY LONGER!

Is the alphamod for Stellaris in the archives? Mega's being slow so looking in every folder will take a lot of time

ded gamez
ded general
just let it RIP

is EU4 4x?

>>171569323
EU games have their own thread if you want to talk about the game. But i'd say yes, it's 4x

Is there a Civ VI tier list that includes Poland and Australia?

>>171569323
>>>/vg/gsg

>>171563387
Does anyone even use election influence?
I don't think I have ever had cause to do so

>>171570946
sometimes when the vote is between a fucking KANGZ and an actually cool dude who doesn't afraid of anything, depending on how much mana I have banked

>Look up mods for stellaris
>Aryan german names
>whitehumansonly
>White system names
How come armchair generals always have to be like this? Does vidya really make you that uncomfortable?

>>171572216
t. nigger

>>171572548
Keep being outraged at pixels, my friend.

>>171572603
You are the one getting triggered here

>>171572216
I'm a conservative myself, and I have no idea where these people come from.

I can't imagine how thin your skin has to be that you'd be turned off by a foreign name, or a different color of skin.

Guys, if Mbutu Mohamed Perez is available as a Scientist in your interstellar empire, the odds are he knows what he's doing.

If someone is hardworking, capable, and not a dick... who cares where they come from?

Merit is all that matters.

>>171572695
>who cares where they come from?
You see, either they're stealing jobs from us hard working whites, or they're lazy scum leeching off us.
t./pol/

>>171572216
Wehraboos are an ingrained part of memetic contrarianism.

>>171572668
Why always the extremes with you? It was a simple question based on an observation, not asking it to be removed or anything.

>>171572786
I said 'merit,' though.

Clearly, the United States can't be a global dumping-ground for the world's uneducated, underprivileged, underclass.

But if you're a hard worker, with a degree or a useful set of skills? And you're willing to immigrate legally and obey the laws of the land?

By all means, I welcome you as neighbor.

>>171572943
cuckservatives is the worst.

Gorgo's Greece looks fun to play.

Is it fun to play?

There are a lot of great bonuses there.

>play as blacks only zulu empire
*crickets*
>play as asians only empire of japan
*crickets*
>play as mushroom/fish/avian supremacy
*crickets*
>play as whites only grossgermanium
"HOLY SHIT YOU RACIST VIRGINS REEE!!!!!11111"

>>171572786
>not mentioning HOL UP, cuck, Pepe, MAGA, poo, leaf or da joos
Too coherent to be /pol/. Your post has to be at least 25% memes to sound like a proper /pol/fag.

>>171573210
This is a good example of advanced memery.

>>171573210
>Play as whites only grossgermanium
*crickets*
>Proceed to go to 4chan and yell about niggers this jews that, sjw thus in video game threads and derail them
>Wonder why people hate you

>>171573354
t. nigger

>>171573354
t. SJW

Thought i clicked /gsg/ for a second. But i see the radical free thinkers blowing minds in 4x is elementary school tier compared to the true intellectuals of /gsg/

Could a bro upload the latest alphamod? The archives don't have it, just some modules of it

>>171573354
>>Play as whites only grossgermanium
>*crickets*
So that's why paradox banned it the first time around?

>>171573816
Pretty sure they banned it because of the kind of people it attracted. You know, those guys who need to let every single one hear about their hardline stances and how much they hate subhumans.

If there's one think we can thank /pol/ leakover for, it's living up the dead threads. It's like they just sit and wait until someone makes an offhand post about something racial.

what the most fun way to genocide in aurora?

>>171573913
No, I live in 99% white country and RP as my country in space, does that make me one of these people? Because that's what +90% of people using it are like. If I make mod that allow enslaving females only I can guarantee +90% of people who download it will be xeno lovers not bigots hating women you dummy.

>>171574383
But anon, poland will never into space, no matter how fantastical sci fi it gets..

>>171574120
I personally like the terraforming approach

>>171574383
Slavs belong in commieblocks, not in space.

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>>171574481
>implying you won't see onion engine powered space ships in our life time
Just wait and see.

>>171572695
africans don't have a high enough IQ for that, it breaks immersion

>>171573070
Is that what I am?

>>171562870
RIP Don Vito

>>171572695
the neocon movement has attracted a lot of people that have a regained vigor in the belief of scientific racism

forget that modern science has mostly quashed those claims, obscure journals from former Wermacht and blog posts rule the day

>>171577668
See, I very firmly believe in the difference between 'conservatism' and 'regression.'

There's a quote I like, and I'm going to paraphrase here: Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire.

It's the preservation of what works, but at no point should you stop building upon that foundation.

Racism doesn't work; it should be thrown into the dustbin of history.

Of course my politics are influenced by my being a conservative Democrat and not a conservative Republican, but I hope we can reach common ground on the above, at least.

>>171572896
You forgot to mention there are mods for each phenotype. But it's only a problem when it's whites-only, you filthy anti-white.

>>171573091
It should have been Leonidas, but Gorgo's Greece is one of the strongest civs in the game.

>>171578227
Really, because i didn't see anything in the mod archives. Do show me something that's not either aryan white power faggotry or roman fapping

>>171578157
multiculti doesn't work you cuck

>>171568236
Sorry, but every quadrant of that graph is completely misrepresented by each stellaris ethic.

HEY GUYS HOW ABOUT THOSE 4x GAMES

>>171578653
SHUT UP
4X ARE ABOUT POPULATIONS AND HOW TO PURGE THEM

>>171578157
>Racism doesn't work; it should be thrown into the dustbin of history.
Explains why only US and Yuro allow shitskins in their countries.
Even fucking Israel built a wall to prevent shitskins from coming in.
>>171578362
>Really, because i didn't see anything in the mod archives.
That's because these "racist" mods get frequently taken down, since, to surprise of no one, swede cucks are as anti-white as you.
Also looks at this http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/browse/?appid=281990&searchtext=phenotype and tell me how many whites do you see?

>>171578423
Believe it or not, I agree with you.

Multiculturalism is an experiment that has largely failed -- but multiculturalism wasn't what we were discussing.

We were discussing multi-racialism, which is completely possible within the confines of a mono-cultural state and was in fact the direction in which the United States was heading for a good long while.

>>171578796
>Explains why only US and Yuro allow shitskins in their countries.
>Even fucking Israel built a wall to prevent shitskins from coming in.

The issue is, and has always been, culture.

Culture, not color.

>>171578157
>Racism doesn't work
But it does, the reason why people shit on pajeets is because they spread like cancer thank to their racism, it push for more of their own and ignore every other race, same with Chinks you hire one chinese and in two years half of working force will be chinese, literally every race but whites and blacks does that, whites because muh tolerance and blacks because they can't.

>>171572216
its because of people who like to make alternate timeline earths where X won Y, or Z race killed off all the others, etc.

>I must talk about my extreme views on this vidya board!
Why not fuck off to stormfront, /pol/, /leftypol/ or even /gamersgatehq/? Seems more up your alley.

>>171578813
culture is racially determined, just like IQ

there's a reason why "black America" and "white America" votes very uniformly in different ways, they have a different culture and that culture is partially innate and not reconcilable

>>171579076
>he thinks /vg/ is for videogames
Clearly it's for political discussion only

>>171578936
Culture doesn't exist in a vacuum.
>>171579076
Why won't YOU fuck off to /lgbt/ to bitch about muh nazis?

>>171578796
Lets see... 3 white human packs, one pack with asian/indian and another big pack with all the races
And that's just front page.

>>171579205
Culture is a result of environment and upbringing, as evidenced by Rhodesia's success in elevating the native African IQ by a standard deviation during their 90-odd years in power.

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Oh man, nothing is easier than triggering angry neonazis. Just say a simple word and they start frothing at the mouth, their fat flabs trembling in rage as they stroke their shitty hitler moustache and plot "revenge" by typing angry posts on 4chan. Every time. And the best part is when they try to out-racist each other to show everyone what a supreme edgelord they are.

>>171579369
gb2pol

>>171579405
science says no

environment can have a negative effect, e.g. malnutrition, stress, violence etc.

but it cannot elevate anything past the point of normal health

>>171579574
I hope the child that wrote all of this got mowed down by a runaway truck desu

>>171579574
Jesus Lord, this is depressing.

>>171579205
Not him but modern science has largely come to the consensus that there's nothing to say black men are mentally differentiated from white men, no?

>>171579574
It's refreshing that we've come so far as a people that edgy teenagers have taken to racism as the new counter-culture.

>>171579386
>he thinks siamese and columbians are white
There is only 2 pages, but I understand why would you ignore the second one, since it goes against your "muh nazis" belief.
>>171579574
>>>/tumblr/
Nice revisionism btw. The swede cucks were the ones being triggered over pixels in the first place, so don't try to act superior as if you are less of a retard.

>>171580271
consensus is not science

unbiased IQ tests show a racial difference over and over

>>171580480
I think an agreement between most reputable scientific communities of the day says something actually, personally.

Not even getting into how there's been plenty of discussion about how IQ tests aren't an adequate gauge of human intelligence and how results may very well be skewed due to personal circumstance rather than skin tone.

>>171580939
>[R]esults may very well be skewed due to personal circumstance rather than skin tone.
>[P]ersonal circumstances.

You mean to say 'environment and upbringing?'

>>171580939
any scientific community that disregards facts is not reputable

it's a commonly repeated fallacy, but there is no value in reputation or prestige, only the accuracy of the work counts for real science

>>171580480
Yes but it is also proven that a bad diet and malnutrition at a young age hinder the development of mental abilities. Also your IQ is not a set value that doesn't change. A good education or a brain that is challenged more often can increase a persons IQ score.

>>171580480
If it isn't science, someone would publish replicable results which show that it's untrue. In this case, it would be someone outside of the Western world who makes observations that can't be disproved.

It's very difficult for politicians to control science. At most they can bribe a few dozen scientists to be "skeptics", but in the end all that matters is the evidence.

>>171581191
So you're saying that in the greater scientific community, one full of very intelligent people, likely far more intelligent and experienced than you or I- over 90% of them are aware of the truth that blacks are simply inferior to whites and a lie that widespread has simply never come up, somehow.

I believe that verges on conspiracy.

>>171581538
>If it isn't science, someone would publish replicable results which show that it's untrue.
and your ignorance is the idea that this is not the case already

>It's very difficult for politicians to control science.
sweet summers child, get learned

>>171581717
>the greater scientific community
doesn't exist
>one full of very intelligent people
ahahahaha
> likely far more intelligent and experienced than you or I
I'd like to see the statistics on that likelihood
>over 90% of them are aware of the truth that blacks are simply inferior to whites
I'd really like to see the statistics on that one, most scientists are specialized in a field that has nothing to do with race or IQ
>and a lie that widespread has simply never come up, somehow.
it has, you're just stupid

>>171581808
I honestly severely doubt that you could ever prove that blacks are inherently less intelligent than whites considering how vague and expansive the idea of human intelligence is.

IQ tests are a garbage metric to judge.

>>171581989
they are not, they simply measure very basic problem solving skills

if IQ wasn't reliable it wouldn't be such a good predictor of how well a person will perform solving complex problems

>>171581808
> I don't understand how science works
If the evidence conflicts with your ideology, perhaps you should reexamine your beliefs rather than make ridiculous assertions about science.

>>171581808
>Local man genuinely believes that scientists, the people whose sole job it is to discern truth are controlled by politics and have all refused to tell the truth that blacks are all subhuman animals

>>171582367
>local man makes infallible scientist argument followed up with a strong strawman, good play

>>171581967
>lol scientists r retards everyone but me is dum
I remember being 15

If neo nazis believe so much in science and consider it always right, then why do so many deny climate change, keynesian economics and genetic stagnation?

Then again, these are the people who consider jews, gays and women subhumans and inferior to white males in every way, yet proclaim how the world is ran by these supposedly inferior beings.

>>171582101
They are. A complete IQ test is far more then only problem solving skills test. For example it also has a common knowledge test. Also it is unclear how big the influence of enviroment is vs. genes. See >>171581526

>>171582884
Because retards, nazis or not, only believe in science as long as it support their opinion.

>>171582367
>the people whose sole job it is to discern truth are controlled by politics
Hahaha sorry anon, I don't care about your discussion but you aren't actually this naive right? Or do you also believe government is doing it's best to make your life better?

>>171583173
> what is peer review
In order for this conspiracy to work, there would have to be a world government which controls all scientists everywhere

Based Alex Jones was right, the internet is full of inflitrators of the enemy, staying here to ruin our proud unity against the invaders. We must fight back bros, if they take the internet from us, we have lost!

So this is basically
>My science is better than YOUR science!
On one of the most contested fields of science there is.

Personally I think the idea that lower black scores couldn't possibly have anything to do with upbringing and environment and everything to do with skin tone is a little ridiculous and yes, it's rather unbelievable that there's a global conspiracy most scientists have agreed to to secretly hide that blacks are less intelligent than whites for... Some reason.

>>171583293
>conspiracy
>have to be
No you need few people with enough money lobbing for the same shit and nobody will go against it to get money and/or not be alien out by majority who already take money, you have the same shit everywhere else but suddenly science is free from it? How fucking naive you have to be believe that.

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>>171584562
>muh "cynicism is always right" argument
Why hasn't big oil, one of the most lucrative businesses there is paid off all the scientists to kill off climate change?

>>171585026
Because the mean oil guys are too busy killing the guy who made a non-polluting water engine.
See, the skulls, part of bone removed !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4mb6gzu60U

>>171584562
The way that science works means that what you are describing CANNOT happen. All it takes is for ONE person to publish replicable results which can't be dismissed, and the entire scheme gala apart. And there always be someone who is willing to publish those controversial results because making a breakthrough like that is what gets you into the history books, also these shadowy forces you describe would need to have just as much influence in Beijing as in Washington. Until we get a totalitarian world government, the nature of the scientific method will always lead to the truth coming out.

>>171585215
Don't forget to mention that some people are just idealistic and want to better the world for the sake of a better world. That sort of people can't be bribed.

>>171585026
Why would they do it? People who own oil companies also own and develop eco tech, fear mongering now will make the switch easier and allow for higher prices later.
>>171585215
> All it takes is for ONE person to publish replicable results which can't be dismissed
You mean like these papers on man made climate change disregarded because they don't come from "respectable" source or entire theoretical physic? I'm not saying either is wrong but everything outside of mainstream narrative is ignored and deemed anti science.

>>171586174
You idiot, the way that science works means that if you come from outside the mainstream, literally all you need to make your views mainstream is compelling evidence that you're right.

The mainstream of science HAS to follow the facts.

>>171586174
Why have they been lobbying to get climate change deniers in power?

>>171586373
>feeding the troll

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I've never formed a federation before, is it worth it? We've already fought a victorious war together and we share the same rivals. I don't know if it would be better to just remain friends but not tie myself to them.

>>171586694
Depends if you're powerful in your own right or there's a bigger fish in your pond you want to gang up on and shank for their stuff

>>171586891
I may form up with them then. I'm significantly more powerful than the humans but they're my bros and our rivals are already in a federation of their own. Then I'm neighbouring an advanced that's been eyeing my sweet sweet tropical space pussy for awhile now.

>>171586694
Feddies are worthless in single player because the AI is garbage and cannot be made to do anything useful.

>>171587171
Don't do it man. Federations have to vote on wars and trying to setup a war score that dumbass AI allies will accept is like retard wrangling without being allowed to actually touch the retards.

I'm looking to get some people to play civ 5 multiplayer, is there any discord or steamgroup that is active and has games going on?
civ4xg seems kinda ded

>>171568236
Those ethics are completely wrong

>A science ship gets transported to another dimension only to return moments later with half its crew gone
>Shortly thereafter, another ship appears with the missing crew, requesting to return to work

what could possibly go wrong?

>>171590529
as far as I know nothing interesting or fun comes out of that. It just adds a spooky science ship to your roster and thats it

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>>171589104
It's too late lads. I guess I'll just wait until I have to stab them in the back.

>>171592259
You're gonna go far, kid.

Looks like the achievements for Utopia are up on Steam already.

>>171592703
I get the feel that putting habitats in black hole systems will lead to fun times.

https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2017/03/20/egx-rezzed-paradox/

>>171586373
>compelling evidence that you're right
It's not about right and wrong but who is right and righter. I remember paper claiming about 70% of climate change is an after effect of world wars and with current progress of alternative energy sources climate change won't be much of a problem, there is plenty of similar papers and all of them are used to support man made climate change but if you show them to people supporting man made climate change they will tell you it's all lies and anti science and this is exactly what happened in discussion earlier, most papers show there are differences between races but others factors have bigger impact on human development so race isn't a major factor, one side took first part of sentence and other took last and started a charade. So the more scientists will say race isn't a (major) factor for human development or climate change (might) become a problem the more trust worthy it will appear to average joe pushing something that is only half true and that's what they are lobbing.
>>171586480
An Idiot who want to make you richer is still an idiot.

Must we lads, must we? Can't we let that shit stay at home and ya know, talk about Utopia or speculate on the next 4x?

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>it's a "Prethoryn swarm spawns 5 solar systems away from your home ring" episode

>>171594189
Utopia is still more than 2 weeks off and the Australia civ hype is already gone. We're in a slump, so get used to /pol/ arguments

>>171595289
speaking of, how do I counter the harder invaders version of the Prethoryn?
I have 30 battleships with kinetic artillery for the nearby fallen empire and around 20 cruisers with PD, lvl5 kinetics and advanced fighters
I have not researched plasma yet

>>171595312
Wait, there was people actually hype for an irrelevant Normie country like Australia? People are fucking weird. Nobody likes an Australian.

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>>171595596
>not want to play straya cunt
>do not want to genocide emus
Why are you even on 4chan?

>>171595745
Emus are cool. Aussie cunts are worthless. Can aussie men even compete with Emus? Science says no.

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F U G

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>>171596112
Don't be racist anon.
Racism is a crime and crime is for niggers and Australians.

>>171596265
But I repeat myself.

>>171595596
Hype is maybe a strong word, but it was pretty much the only new content this general had to talk about over the last couple weeks besides Stellaris dev diaries, but once we found out Utopia and 1.5 were more than a month off still the diaries just became an unbearable cocktease.

>>171596928
Wait by Australians you mean these worthless petty British criminal scum that send to penal colony?
I was thinking that you were talking about glorious Abbo civilization.
My bad.

>>171582884
Neonazis are the untermenschn from the point of view of the actual nazis

>>171595589
help

>>171598774
Okay, but first you must tell us your stance on racial genocide in real life.

>>171599630
outsource it to the free market

>>171599781
Welcome aboard!

>>171599952
how do I genocide this fucking shitsquad that has 50k+ fleets seemingly ad infinitum

>>171597141
there is no difference

what's new /civ4xg/?

I'm desperately waiting for the Stellaris addon

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>>171572216
>>171572695
You must have quite a thin skin to get offended by those mods. It's most definitely just players seeking to simply roleplay a certain type of human race with specified history and cultural progress leading up to that point rather than them treating the faction as a perfect extension of their real life political ideals. Some people like meritocratic utopia human society (the default Stellaris human race) while others may want to roleplay a different type of mankind. If you're playing fanatic purifier space Nazis, them employing humans of all races might be a bit immersion breaker to some players.

Take for example X3 where the main Terrans are all weaboos using Japanese phrases every now and then and their biggest ships follow a similar Japanese naming sense (though the ATF with separate military authority uses Norse names), meaning Japan likely became a dominating country economy and culture wise at some point. I very much doubt you'd call the game's portrayal of main human pandering to Japanese who are "uncomfortable playing a multicultural humanity", it's just the developers' decision to create that type of mankind for their in-game universe. Stellaris' main draw is faction customization and roleplay so it's obvious people want greater control over empire creation.

>>171602202
this, like i said earlier, its just roleplaying alternate history earths

>>171602098
So is everybody else hence why it's dead as fuck right now. If only Civ VI wasn't such a disappointment.

>>171602098
>what's new /civ4xg/?
I began playing Company of Heroes.
I was sent back home crying with the Wehrmacht panzers on my ass.

But I find it pretty fun to analyze how different the games are. With Supreme Commander, I usually expand nicely, and then establish a no man's land in the middle of the map while pumping out units.
With Age of Empires 2, you're supposed to move your peasants progressively further and further away from your starting points to get more ressources.
With Company of Heroes, you're basically constantly on the offensive.

>>171506628
the original idea of civ was as a bigger simcity but that idea didn't survive the shift out of real time

the closest I've ever had to a civ-city was playing vicky 2, you're not map painting so much as managing your goods production, dealing with population woes and upgrading your infrastructure.
distant worlds comes close but it suffers by taking the economy entirely out of your hands and then not telling you a damn thing about it, so you can literally sit for decades with nothing building because there's a bottleneck in your supply chain somewhere you don't know about

stars beyond reach might come close if it ever gets finished

>>171586694
It's worth it if they're militaristic (as they are in this case). Federations with pacifists are bad because they won't agree to wars.

>>171612251
But you can liberate pacifists and have them join a federation.

>>171611506
>it's a victoria 2 episode

>>171612336
If you're liberating them then you should just make them into vassals.

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>>171596224

This sort of shit where an interesting system is just out of reach and the time an amoeba group showed up in my system a year and a half after starting that game and wrecked the station has put me off using warmholes

>>171612531
I said liberating, not oppressing them more.

>>171572216
>>171572695
> Guys, if Mbutu Mohamed Perez is available as a Scientist in your interstellar empire, the odds are he knows what he's doing.

The rationale here is that nobody called Mbutu Mohamed Perez has ever known what he's doing because black people provably have substantially lower mean IQ than white people, and so a game that serves you up a Mbutu as one of the top 5 geniuses of the human race is lying to you for ideological purposes, trying to inculate the IRL state's
> "We are all the same, there are no differences in IQ distribution between races, there is only one race the human race :^)"
propaganda in to your brain through endless saturation bombardment from all media.
Nobody's suggesting there's actually a Swedish police political comissar stood in the Paradox office vetting their games for egalitarian content. But nevertheless, the game is presenting you a demonstrably inaccurate picture of mankind and it is not unreasonable to want to correct this factual error.

I personally don't use any mods because I'm not an autist, but I understand entirely the rationale of the people who.do in this case.

t. /pol/ak

>>171612798
Not him, but what if I want a galaxy like in Freelancer with the Asians on one side, the Americans on the others, and the Germans in the middle?

>>171612634
You protect them from the horrors of the galaxy, and they stop fucking up the galaxy by performing diplomacy and colonization. There is no downside for anyone for this agreement.

>>171613056
There is something wrong with this argument. Something that makes my talons shivers.

>>171613039
Although I'm sure our resident polcuck will argue against this point, Asians, Americans, and Germans are not literally different species. They can have political divisions, but they're all human.

>>171613680
They're all human, but at the same time, mankind is not monolithic. It would make sense for colonies with different ethics to make their own empire.
Alpha Centauri is a nice example of that, even if ideology matters more than race. Or ethnie or whatever the term is.

>>171614012
Sounds like a good reason to make sure that colonists have the same ethics as the originating empire, so that the species doesn't go extinct due to being fractured in a hostile galaxy.

Oh wait, that's what players already routinely do!

>>171614425
>implying the player's control is absolute
What keeps Horatio from making his own sect and escaping?

Don't die yet.

>>171618493
it can't be helped

>>171613680
there is greater genetic difference between blacks and whites than there are between different species of many apes

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/civ4xg/, Tell me about your most memorable 4x game sesh. Was it comfy? full of action?

When will Stellaris 1.5 launch?

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Didn't know where to post this, but any of you guys know if there's a general for Company of Heroes and Men of War kind of games?

>>171620928
Yeah but that can be chalked up to how species are differentiated. Incompatible mating rituals have resulted in two populations being categorized as different species. When humans have different mating rituals we call it "culture."

>>171622445
if only there were some sort of search engine that you could use to find information

>>171621626
Well I've been playing 4X for like 15 years, so there's a lot to remember.

One I recall is a Civ V Korea science run, 90% of the time sat there comfy, last 10th of the game was a desperate colony rush for uranium followed by desperate nuking of Russia trying unsuccessfully to stop their spaceship. By the end I was aiming at railroads just to try and stop the parts being able to travel to Moscow.

There was a memorable Civ III game as well, where I as China was on my own little comfy continent while I the Russians, again, went and burned everything the fuck down in a global genocide on two big continents, and I remember an immense Berlin-airlift style battle where I was throwing like 10 tanks a turn into the captured walled city of Khabarovsk while the Russian army crashed against me again and again and again. That was another battle I lost, but I won the game in the end iirc.

Again on Civ III, I was playing as Hittites possibly, and had been behind most of the game. Had just managed to intercontinental-invade Germany, but this left me with a border against the awesome might of Babylon and their one billion tanks. Couldn't nuke them as they had SDI, so what I did is built a world-war-1 style fortified Maginot Line all along the border, DoW'd them, then nuked the shit out of their concentrated forces and my own defenders the moment they crossed, as Civ III SDI didn't work outside your own territory.
They got me back later in the war by rushing a recently captured city and wiping out my entire air force of about 30 stealth bombers, but I won in the end through liberal glassing.

The most memorable games are always the ones where you're fighting for your fucking life.

What are some "active" rts games with multiplayer

Just bought a pc and want to play some light hearted rts games

>>171624728
starcraft 2, age of empires 2, supreme commander forged alliance, dawn of war soulstorm with ultimate apocalypse, dawn of war 2 retribution with elite mod, uhh theres probably some others, but none of them are really 'light hearted'
though dow 3 is pretty 'light hearted' in that it's reasonably easy to play, and is coming out in like a month.

>>171622829
no that's not how species are classified at all

>>171626360
supreme commander is pretty easy going online desu. very few tryhards, lots of noob friendly low intensity games

>>171621626
I got a whole peninsula to myself as rome in civ 5. most of the other civs were holed up on the mainland and a few others on a second continent

I basically ended up being ancient america, minding my own business building up, and getting dragged in whenever shaka started a war and I had to go in amphibiously and liberate the cities again

>>171612634
sjw's would consider liberation as oppressive

>>171570946
I try to keep a leader with Deep Connections (+1 Influence), Warlike(-15% ship cost), or Champion of the People (+10% happy), and mandates of Fleet Expansion (-10% ship cost, -10% ship build time, +20% ship build speed) or scientific leap (+10% research speed).

A Warlike Champion of the people with a Fleet Expansion mandate is a 25% reduction in ship cost and ship maintenance with a +10% production bonus for everything and I'd do anything to keep them in power.

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>Been playing CIV since CIV III when I was 7
>Come back to CIV IV after7 years of playing it
>Get my ass kicked on Prince difficulty
>Finally after seven games of this I'm starting to get the hang of things again

I don't remember this game being this hard.

Also who should I play for my next game? Thinking of either Vikings or the HRE, but any other suggestions are fine.

>>171628745
I personally really like the Dutch + Naval approach

>>171628415
Keep the influence and use it to get more worlds.

>>171631051
Gotta spend money to make money and I've never needed influence to colonize. A good leader is irreplaceable.

>>171628745
go wide

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This is quite possibly the best city I've ever had.

My friends gave up when I got Ruhr Valley on turn 72, damn 580 AD.

>>171621626
I remember the only Earth Map game of Civ V I ever played.

I was Japan, but this was without Accurate Starting Locations and so in a geographic sense I was Native Americans. Only city-states shared the New World with me.
By the time I discovered the Old World, Songhal (who did actually have their capital in Africa) had basically conquered it all. An attempted reneissance invasion of South Africa by me was beaten back, at which point I basically turtled until it became clear that attack was the best defence.
What followed was decades of brutal Modern-Era warfare as my Japano-American helicopter gunships battled African tank legions in the Russian Far East. I eventually managed to grind them down by attrition, but my actual territorial progress had only brought me into northern China before the AI went "Fuck it, surrender" and offered me every city but their capital for peace.

DON'T MESS WITH NIPPON-USA

https://www.gamebillet.com/sid-meiers-civilization-vi-digital-deluxe
worth it?

>>171633559
Nice balance Firaxis

>>171636159
There was literally no flat tiles within my city range, and I started next to a wonder, it's pretty much as good as it gets.

>>171636278
No flats might have been a bit of a hindrance if you didn't have the fucking Kilimanjaro right there.

>>171636486
yup.

Is Civ 6 not trash yet?

>>171637264
Depends entirely on what you define as trash?

I think it's great, and now that the modding tools are out in full it's only getting better.

I've also never seen a game where it's as easy to add mods as in Civ6. I just add 5-6 mods that me and my friends want to try out, invite them to my lobby, it installs the mods I have active automatically and we're good to go.

>>171628745
Play HRE. They're pretty fun.

>>171622635
You mean RTS?

>>171626360
>supreme commander forged alliance
Vanilla or Forged Alliance Forever?

>>171642907
FAF for multiplayer

>found a colony
>before starbase is halfway done, it's overrun by migrants
>starvation all around
>happiness down the drain
>some of those migrants start a separatist faction

REEEEEEEE

>>171645215
Just like real life

this general is fucking dead

>>171646954
Utopia soon
I won't even but it until a couple of months past release date because Banks alone will add a bunch of new content and I like to drag the novelty out as long as I can because God knows you have to do something to stop Stellaris becoming a bore-zone

>>171647096
Why does time slow down when nearing something you've been in anticipation for?

>>171647205
Because you can't start anything else good so you feel more bored

>>171646954
ES2 update 3 with multiplayer on thursday.

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>mfw the demons pop out of the warp right next to the xenophile awakened empire

>>171647096
utopia changes nothing

>>171586694
yes it is, but only if you make yourself the permanent president

Just wanted to ask why Stellaris isn't in /gsg/? They don't consider it grand strategy, nobody cares about it over there, or is it adopted by 4x general as a substitute to the shitty beyond earth?

Just downloaded Stellaris again and couldnt find anything about it there and just checked here on a whim.

>>171572216
When the game came out I made a mini pan-European mod because I got triggered when I had a black Romanov emperor. Or blacks with Russian names in general. Or whites with Chinese names. It was fucking retarded and I like to play an Empire that actually looks like me and fulfill my fascist fantasies of abusing aliens and ethnically cleansing entire planets. Why is this so hard to understand?

>>171572695
>I'm a cuckservative myself
fixed that for you

>>171649778
R&I sperged out about it and got it banned just like aurora earlier

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>>171629638
>>171632793
>>171638049

Went with this guy's suggestion. I'll do HRE next. Long story short, got lucky with neighbours and was able to expand and wonder whore while Montezuma and Alexander focused on other enemies. Switched from Buddhism to Free Religion and Montezuma declares war on me. He does this four times, each time being vastly behind me in tech. The second and third time, he gets the Apostolic palace to save him like a pussy the second I'm at his borders.

The fourth time he declared war on me I launched ten nukes at him and razed every city I could before I won. Defied the UN resolution for peace as well.

Fuck Montezuma.

>>171651708
Now I want to play Civ 4 and have a huge fuck all late game war with hundreds of units

>>171633559
do people really play with the screen filled with garbage?

>>171653017
with everything turned off you're still looking at garbage

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>>171635404
hmmmmmmm

>>171570946
>>171628415
I once had a guy being inept at management which resulted in 10% increased fleet upkeep.

I had to make sure he got out of office as fast as was possible.

>>171653017
Do peopel really do X ?
Yes people do things.

>>171649220
>only if you make yourself the permanent president
how the fuck does this work?

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hey, since the weather is clearing and im a fat neet, i thought of taking bike rides. Problem is, it gets boring fast, so i want something to listen to, which is why i ask:

Any good podcasts/news of around an hours length of space/science/new technologies content that isn't cringe inducing or kotaku tier?
Any fun stuff from other topics you would recommend?

Any way to easily go through the Stellaris mod archive?

>>171586694
>is it worth it?
I had a game where I pissed off a religious fallen empire because I ended up settling a Gaian world before I made contact with them. They ended up accepting my presence, but later on started to bully me because of border friction.

Around that time the void being spawns due to my psionic warpdrives and another fallen empire awakened because of that. They were enigmatic watchers before they awakened I think. I was like OH SHIT, better start diplomacy with them asap and it turns out they had a massive, massive interest in forming a federation with me, like 5000 bonus points in favour, which I immediately jumped upon. Like, who the fuck wouldn't want to be in a federation with an awakened fallen empire?

The religious fallen empire kept bullying me, which eventually ended up in a declaration of war on their part on me, but my awakened empire allies kicked in their shit HARD with my help. I ended up totally annihilating them, taking all their holy worlds as well as their ridiculously high production homeworlds.

tl;dr: federations are very, very worth it under the right circumstances.

On higher difficulties diplomacy is oftentimes the only means for me to survive if I can get them to ally with me rather than becoming their vassal.

>>171655540
PBS Space Time

is that real footage? Do you know what probe it is?

>>171653685
>le smirky dreamworks face

>>171655567
Thanks m8
>feels good to wake up to some (You)s

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>>171656078
>feels good to wake up to some (You)s
iktf

>>171656078
>sleeping for 18 hours

>>171656374
>sleeping for less than 15 hours
it's like you're not even depressed

>tfw no pop-based religion system in stellaris

Lets just say that during species creation you can make three religions with traits that give them bonuses and negative modifiers.
For example in a human empire you could say there is islam christianity and judaism with each of the giving the pops that are part of that religion the modifiers that go with it.
You can have a state religion or you can be secular and you can have events of your pops starting to follow xeno religions with different ways to handle such situations.
Also converting xenos and losing believers to ither religions or atheism should be a thing.

>>171656545
>pop-based religion system
why bother, sounds exactly like extra ethics pops can have

>>171656545
spiritualism is basically the replacement for religion and I think it works very well to represent that

>>171656751
There would also be events around it ofcourse like religious violence happening or people proclaiming themselves as new prophets and starting rebellions for example.

>>171656809
Its a bit bland at the moments.
I think they could make it deeper for ro purposes.

>>171656979
Rp*

>>171656476
>implying there are feelings besides this endless void

>>171655567
Tip for your next playthrough: all of those Holy Worlds have a special modifier that denotes what they are. I once saw a sweet, sweet 25 tile Gaia World right next to my borders, but right before the colony ship hit I saw the modifier. I colonized the planet anyway and the FE colonized my asshole

>>171656979
>I think they could make it deeper for ro purposes.
I agree, but what I would like to see is a unified religion for each spiritualistic empire. Afterall that ethic is one of the cornerstones and foundations of your empire, it's what gives your people unity and a shared purpose. Sure, there might be individual sects with minor differences, but I don't think they (should) matter enough to have them any more fleshed out.

The interesting part comes when you have a race of plants believing in fungal Jesus and a race of birds believing in the 4 winged Buddha so to speak.

>>171657729
Yup, I know. I have no idea why it didn't show up for me or why the FE didn't give enough of a fuck to attack me right away after I colonized it.

I think it was a special case where the terraforming process was abandoned long ago and I restarted it and ended up getting real lucky with a Gaian world. The conflict might have ended up purely about border friction cause that world was really close to their empire, but I figured since they're fallen and I'm not settling their world they wouldn't bother me.

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>>171655923
from where i got it they say you can get same quality view with a hobby telescope down here from earth, so i assume its from one as well

>>171657868
Weird shit, anon. I didn't even know the empire was there yet, but it had the modifier anyway.

Here's to hoping Paradox addresses some of this shit in Utopia.

>>171658035
I think it was this quest that ended up giving me the Gaia world:

http://www.stellariswiki.com/Special_projects_1#Resume_Process

>>171657931
The Earth seems so close. It's scary.

>>171658236
that shit is ridiculously fast

that's ten thousands of kilometers in the span of seconds

>>171658267
And yet accurate enough to land on a X spot.

>>171658267
actually I'm a retard, disregard my previous post

>>171658176
So you're basically starting the countdown to your own destruction
>Dwarf Fortress is that you?

>>171658352
it's good that you realised.

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>>171658236
I love webms like this that reminds me that stuff in space isnt magic, it looks/works like stuff all around you, albeit with slightly different rules.

>>171657931
I wonder if SpaceX will really colonize Mars

>>171658656
I like stuff that reminds me how fucking huge space is.

I played Freelancer so much as a kid that I still have issues imagining how a solar system would look like if it was up to scale.

Also,
>all these flying debris

How to make AI an actual threat other than giving them insane HAX powers you theoreticaly cannot match (+50/100%!! resource bonuses)

I tried making 4 fallen empires, and only a few other empires with advanced starts so they have room to expand, but by the time i actually build up an army for conquest and not just self defense i'm already almost twice the size of the next strongest, and thats before i slap their shit, which snowballs into taking out 3 FEs before they can even awaken.

My next try will be disabling early space age faggots maturing and cluttering up the joint, as well as a size bigger galaxy. any other ideas? OR should i just bite the bullet and give the AI the HAX so it can steamroll me with its insane advantages earlygame?

>>171659149
I'd like a mod that deactivates primitives evolving.
It took mankind something like 500-1000 years to evolve from Middle Ages to Gunpowder Ages.

Persia?

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>>171658797
Yeah they can stack all the suns in fancy animations to show you the size of other stars all they want but when you look at the moon, remember how fucking far it is, you cant help but wonder how huge it must be for you to see it that clearly. Then the sun which is the same size for us but so far that even light takes 8 minutes to reach us. The scales are mind boggling.

>>171659569
But isn't the moon pretty close? Something like 350 000 km?

Haaa, I just want a fun space game like Freelancer where I can just relax and look at the space.
Space.
SPAAAAAAAACE.

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>want to take a gaia world from those orange shits to my right
>Commonwealth says no

Federation was a mistake. Will I be able to start the war when the presidency rotates back to me in 3 years?

>>171659770
>liberate a planet costs more than ceding one
Huh?

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https://civilization.com/news/entries/civilization-vi-cyrus-ii-leads-persia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIhkrcFIVow&feature=youtu.be

>>171659916
Warscore in general is illogical as fuck in Stellaris
Rebalance coming with Banks

I actually counted, and after a victorious wat against an Awakened Fanatic Xenophobe FE, I just purged 179 billion of their pops.
30 megaHitlers of PURGE.

Feels good man, they've wiped out idk how many species in their quadrant of the galaxy before I got big enough to stop them.

>Changes in update 1.5, nicknamed ‘Banks’, will include expanding species rights, reworking ethics, and adding refugees.

SWEEEEEDENNNNNNN

>>171660110
Would it kill them to write down the traits and what makes the uniques unique in the fucking page?

>>171660341
>and adding refugees
WE'RE GOING TO BUILD AN INTERPLANETARY WALL AND MAKE THE ALIENS PAY FOR IT

>>171660341
I don't mind them adding refugees as long as I can choose to strafe their boats with my planetary defences as they approach.

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>>171660601
>>171660690
You guys gotta use your heads
>open borders to all sorts of refugees
>relocate them to planets dedicated to food production and turn them into livestock

>>171660860
F I E N D I S H
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>>171660341
I fully expect a day 1 "no refugees" mod because chances are they will be completely useless and incredibly annoying and there will be no way to not get them

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>>171661258
yes you can
you all need to read the dev diary already, always asking the same shit

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>>171659263
in filename you can set the criteria as to when they advance and shit (i think), i vastly increased this one, hope it will work.

A more surefire way would be to maybe remove all triggers, or add an impossible one, but i dont know what reprecussions the former has, nor a suitable one for the latter.

>>171660446
probably.
Persia - Cyrus
Unique Ability - Satrapies - Gain a free trade route upon researching the Political Philosophy Civic, as well as bonuses to internal trade routes.
Leader Ability - Fall of Babylon - Lessened diplomatic penalty when declaring surprise war; all units gain an additional movement point upon the declaration of a surprise war.
Unique Unit - Immortal - Swordsman replacement that has a ranged attack, but a strong combat defence.
Unique Improvement - Pairidaeza - Provides Culture, Gold, and Appeal. Also provides bonuses with adjacent districts and citycenters. Gains even more bonus with the progression of civics and technologies.

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>>171660268
God bless the SI system

>>171659149
>How to make AI an actual threat
complete redesign, sorian style

>>171661667
Sounds balanced
could be a fun civ.

>>171661991
But a life in 1944 wasn't worth as much as a life in 2006.

>>171662165
jewish life is worth $0

>>171662165
but inflation though

>>171662545
But technological progress means we can produce more, which raises a life's worth.

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>>171661991
>>171660268
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6sTBSl3M2FE

>this song is 7 FUCKING years old already
Holy shit

>>171662896
>which raises a life's worth
we also have a lot more life's and a lot of it is trash now

>>171663264
>life's
maybe I should stop posting for today

>>171663264
But the average is still raised.

>>171661667
>Lessened diplomatic penalty when declaring surprise war

As if that matters. But other then that it sounds fun enough. The movement thing is nice.

>>171666058
>still no Boo mod

>>171666058
>homeworld 2 music pack
patrician taste

>>171666640
>liking Homeworld 2
Meh.

>>171666058
shit I misread it as fag

>>171666724
>not liking homeworld 2

>>171667013
>liking Homeworld 2
Imagine someone blowing a rapsberry in a bored tone.

>>171666802
Me too. I need to lay off 4chan for a bit.

>>171581717
If we disregard the entire problem of intelligence for just a moment, it's commonly accepted among the scholarly community that there is a meaningful genetic distinction between the wide "races", to the point that it's fairly simple to roughly outline where people are from by looking at certain genes. It's not 100% efficient of course, there are outliers, but on average there's a fairly strong correlation
Now it's often been said that there's a 'social construct' component to race, and it's true, I'd say - but that doesn't mean the differences don't exist. It's analagous to the difference between tall people and short people - while the point at which you're now a manlet may differ from person to person, it's not really arguable that the heights of a tall person and a short person are the same. The cutoffs might differ, sure, but tall people can't be short, and you can't say no short people exist.
It's been asserted that East Asians are generally shorter than Europeans and Sub-Saharans. Now there might be a nutritional component, but we find that Asians are still shorter even when we only take American Asians compared to White / Black Americans despite them earning almost twice as much as the average burger. There might be cultural differences too between diets so that needs to be looked at more, but in the end I think there's a meaningful difference between the physiques of the classical races. This is also obvious from an evolutionary standpoint - Eurasians haven't been seperated from each other for that long, but there is already a significant difference such as the gene in charge of lactose and the shovel incisor only commonly found in Sinic peoples.
Given all of these physical differences, is it REALLY that strange to find other, mental differences, esp. accounting for the Neanderthal admixture only found in Eurasians and the fact that Subsaharans have been seperated from Eurasians for far longer and far more strongly than Eurasians from each other?

>it's an advanced fanatic spiritual empire spawning directly on top of your fanatical materialist empire

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So I disbanded my federation to conquer this gaia world. They share the same base ethics as me (xenophile and spiritual) but they're still pretty fucking pissed. Their planet preference opens up a whole wealth of planets suddenly available for me to colonize.

My question is, if I start spreading these dudes around my empire, am I going to get a massive rebellion eventually or will they calm down? I can't purge them.

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>tfw nobody will ever remake Civ IV with hexes and multicoar capabilities and cross-platform with more modding potential than before
>tfw C2C for Civ IV - II never

>>171661529
You have to keep in mind that Stellaris is a Paradox game, so most people who play it are conspiracy-addled neo-nazis who think that Swedish companies are all working for (((them))).

>>171670003
enslave the rebellious heretics

>>171670319
B-but I can't enslave them either..

>>171670003
With your influence level I'd definitely run some reeducation campaigns until they're more amendable. It's for sure cheaper than blocking a faction long term

>>171670503
Ok thanks, I'll give it a shot.

>>171670357
Welp, that's alot of influence your going to have to spend to keep the masses down...keep a garrison force on their world(s), nothing fancy clone troopers could fill the gaps really.

don't call it a grave...its the future you chose

>>171670908
ethics divergence -16% means it's not gonna be long until they adopt your ethics

for now they're just pissed they've been recently conquered, it'll go away in like 2-3 years

if you build a colony ship on their planet there will be no unhappiness penalty for having been conquered on the new world so they'll be less unhappy.

So a Fallen Empire just awakened.

Unfortunately it happened at a bad time. I control roughly a third of the galaxy, with the other two thirds being five large empires.
I'd just had a few years of peace I'd used to colonize some more planets. But now I have a fleet that's not even at cap, is in need of upgrading, and a lot of half-developed planets.
Heck I don't even have PD on my ships since none of the other empires use missiles.

Even if I pause construction on all my planets, it's still going to take a long, long time to cap my fleet, upgrade it, and build flower fortresses at my choke points.

How screwed am I? Should I just reload a save from a year earlier and start preparing then?

>>171672148
What's their mission?

Rally the rest of the galaxy behind you as you take down the ancients

>>171672148
Don't save scum. You can do it, anon! I believe in you.

>>171672148
never surrender to xenos scum

>>171653685
Just play the demo they released. I did, and found the game to be pretty bland.

>>171672250
Doctrinal enforcers.
So the guys who get pissed if you colonize one of the holy Gaia worlds.

They want to turn my (an ever others) government ethos into a spiritual one. i.e. convert us to their religion.

They've already curb stomped a small empire that one of the big players was about to integrate.
I bought sensor access from them before they bought it, so now I know they have at least 3 50K fleets. Mine is about 70K, and could be 80-90 if I max out my cap.

An anti-FE fleet is still kinetics, torpedoes and PD right?

Do synth leaders die of old age?

>>171672148
ignore them and build up your empire and fleet. Maybe have a cop of tea too.

If they start shit, just backdoor them with multiple fleets, or just hop behind them liberating whatever planets they took while also building up. you should lose less than you gain and eventually slap their shit.

The first time one awakened on me i made the mistake of signing in on their shit (it was the xenophile fags), then once i realized what it meant, i warred them took some of their worlds while they took 1 of mine, split the fleet they chased and conquered more. Once they caught up to the fleet they were chasing it was at thorwaway strength far from where they should be and after a few more sacced fleets they agreed to my peaceterms since i held quite a few of their buttbudies as well as their own worlds.

>>171670095
>normies will never stop posting this crappy """game"""

Wew lads, I never thought I'd have as much problems as I did with Carthage in the Rise of Rome Scenarion in civ 3. Rng is the worst.
Anyone have any tips for the Fall of Rome in civ 3?

Ah great, one of my planets pops mutated into invisible pops called 'Super-' that refuse to be moved around.

>>171677251
The fuck is that

>>171677372
happened to me as well, got some population to spontaneously modify itself and turn into "post-"

Maybe it happens when a pop that doesn't belong to your primary species does this?

In Civ V, how do you do domination victories on higher difficulty? Is it just a given that you'll need to wait until late game to take much unless you're a Civ with a good uu for taking cities early? How do you hurt people enough so they can't get back at you without getting a massive warmonger penalty and constantly being hated?

I had a game going as Assyria and was doing okay until the ottoman empire and Mayans declared war on me and I basically stalled after the siege tower became obsolete.

>>171674674
How much did you take in a single war? I've got xenophiles who are unfriendly because I refused to sign, and the warscore cost for liberating each planet is ridiculous at 11-15 each. So I'm considering just liberating the whole empire.

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Rate my civ pls

>>171678238
I don't understand why they are Nazis/10

>>171678238
>venice in space
>named fourth reich

>>171677702
dont remember, but i think i only wanted my freedom in that war but if you make them cede the planets they started with, they are proper fucked as they cant build more of their OP buildings as far as i know.

Also before they awaken you can annex all of the plantes of any FE, but after they awaken their planets scores shoot way up, so if you can, you should always preemptively fuck them up.

>>171678238
>>171678342
>Wormhole travel
>Nazi
>Hitler used super sekrit donut steel Nazi technology to go back in time and kill the untermensch
>Accidentally went both back in time and space
>Landed over 12,000 years ago in ayylium land

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>>171678342
>>171678482
I have aspergers & add...

>>171659770
You have to give him some objectives too. If he doesn't get anything out of the war he won't go along with it, but the problem is there's no way to know what the AI actually wants out of a war.

>>171680651
Yea I thought about that, I tried offering him some different things but the shitters never agreed so I bailed on them.

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>>171658797
>I played Freelancer so much as a kid that I still have issues imagining how a solar system would look like if it was up to scale.

just look at the sky at night mate

>>171678238
Nonsensical. You just made space merchants then called them Nazis for no reason.

>>171673502
>I know they have at least 3 50K fleets
that's actually pretty small for a FE

>>171681083
inb4 anon is dyslexic and it's 350k

>>171681430
Wait, k doesn't mean "killing power"?

>>171681606
k stands for kool

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So how have these guys not noticed my station yet?

Do robots get automatically upgraded to androids/synths, or are you stuck with the inferior versions?

>>171681083
Those are the only one's I've seen. I've since seen more of them, including a 79K with a huge ship in it.
I've been building military stations around the four planets closest to their space, but it's thousands and thousands of minerals so it's going to take a while.
In the mean time, they've gone to war with two large empires on the right side of the map, so I'm wondering how much time I have left.
Ideally I'll want to attack them when their fleet is away from home.

>>171682476
Woah what mod is that?

>>171682607
They get upgraded automatically.

>>171682476
they have and the government is passing it off as a comet while preparing xcom

>>171682818
Not a mod. One of the primitive species I am monitoring has advanced to the space age and have put their own space station in orbit. Right next to my observation post. The ring spins too!

>>171683212
That's pretty neat!

>>171682476
Their mainstream media is denying it.

>>171682476
Only their version of Alex Jones knows about it.

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Whats the point of using jew tactics with the observation post to bring in a primitive planet when you can just invade with a couple armies?

>>171685697
This makes me want to try to conquer one of those with some titanic beasts

>>171682680
So I did something I've never really done in Stellaris before. I actually traded with others.
In response to the FE awakening, I've traded away my special resources that I've previously been hoarding.
On the one hand it'll make my competition stronger (against the FE hopefully) and on the other, I've just doubled my monthly mineral income for the next ten years.
Hopefully I'll have my fortresses & fleet ready soon.

>>171685697
Conquering one leaves you with a bunch of unhappy, unproductive pops with different ethics from you.
Taking over their government gives you a bunch of happy, fall-in-line productive citizens.
So, conquering gets you a planet faster, but takes longer to turn into something good.
And enlightenment takes longer & costs more, but gives you an instantly useful planet when done.

>>171685697
the observation post gives you science

>>171682875
>>171684824
>>171685431
top kek

>>171682476
That's pretty cool I didn't know space age guys did that.

>>171688987
There's a lot you don't know.

>>171692767
that is an universal truth applicable to anyone

>>171680651
>be fanatic materialist
>purging the universe of the evils of religion
>federate with some spiritualist xenophiles because they call me a beautiful sphinx
>they agree to any war with nothing in it for them at all
>also they have a higher-tier bombardment policy, so they fuck up enemy planets more than I can
God is real.

>>171677632
Guys?

>>171695341
pace yourself, liberate other civs

>>171680651
if they're pacifist they will only agree to liberate planets

liberate planets in clusters of 1-3. Make sure their power level is low. Because of liberation and low power level they'll love you and agree to become your vassals for protection immediately, 10 years later fully integrated into your empire.

How's Grey Goo?

>>171697348
play SC2 instead if you haven't

>>171696240
If you can take 1 planet, you can defeat their fleet and therefore you can get 100% warscore. Therefore, there is no reason not to select enough planets to get up to 99.

(also you can add humiliation and other goals, for free purple mana)

>>171698367
>there is no reason not to select enough planets to get up to 99
there is

if the planet is too populous/developed or their tech is too high they won't agree to become vassals easily. You want them to accept vassalization IMMEDIATELY after ending the war.

>>171682476
this
>hello ground control, theres a giant space station... what do we do
>ignore it, its just a meteor

>>171697772
I don't like Starcraft. It's too competitive.

>>171660110
Looks really cool!