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Our Lord and Savior Edition

Died waiting for the 27th >>171508025

>Discord-sponsored tournament on March 25:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdE5nW644n-uDkR2sLrJD--n4Nsynw2f9GP2BJOrNUBpgiBiw/viewform

>Ringed City DLC stuff
Announcement trailer: https://youtu.be/igomOLwqsV0 [Embed]
Screenshots/art: https://imgur.com/a/83M79
Gameplay footage: https://youtu.be/j8Ke647-xsU [Embed]
Redacted Ringed Knight armor set screenshots: http://imgur.com/wIM6rIJ
Vaati's notes, trimmed (MAJOR SPOILERS): http://pastebin.com/Y7MTapKN
Leaked first boss fight (SPOILERS): https://sendvid.com/ppo6urmb
Famitsu screenshots: https://imgur.com/a/A6diD
TRC gameplay from PAX East stream: https://mega.nz/#!nFUhTJTY!sVWEb4jeiteATO9mFWKPmtOuyPQiPI6IKEWXH1uS3qo
PvP arena screenshots: https://steamcommunity.com/games/374320/announcements/detail/261612445216430867
ADP arena: https://youtu.be/G-ogfoPhz64 [Embed]
Grand Archives arena: https://youtu.be/UVM4AsXX4yk [Embed]
Bamco stream (PvP, some weapon stats): https://mega.nz/#!7YNUhbZB!IXABnYIRQR9GQd030iLgOAMR30ExztE-qdV9RdQKysc
Bamco stream (PvE, nothing new): https://mega.nz/#!fYUhiA7b!bb9K_rKuPVb3vg4OLvWAsab5r_7h0TOyO6IxnjKvPi0
DLC weapon stats: https://imgur.com/a/00ozT
IGN PvP gameplay (shitty players, but showcases some weapons): https://youtu.be/HFR6YZTlNz8 [Embed] https://youtu.be/CH-ZJfeO9iw [Embed]
IGN PvE gameplay (nothing new before 5:54): https://youtu.be/F61tviDEgi0 [Embed]
Gamespot first boss fight (SPOILERS): https://youtu.be/ttTyzbyUtTs [Embed]

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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First for no patch notes
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27th. COME. COME YOU FAGGOT.
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Second for DS2>DS3
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Hello yes what is the single best fashion combo in Dark Souls 3?
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>>171558801

Loincloth
Javelin
Wolnir's Crown
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I really like Shrine of Amana but damn did dodging and killing and watching to ledges get old fast
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This is it lads
The last Dark Souls 3 major patch

The last Dark Souls patch

How badly are they going to fuck it up?
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>>171558801
Anything generic and knightly
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>>171558801
N E C K S E A M S
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>>171558801
Gundyr's gauntlets go with everything.
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>>171558842
t. Son of Kangz
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>>171558968
A neck seam is the transition between the head and body mesh where it looks like it's been stitched on, it's nothing at all related to dumb characters not knowing what coifs or gorgets are for
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>balancing a single player game
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>>171558801
Naming yourself Artorias and using anything but the Wolf Knight set.
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>>171557836
The Fire is the sun. When a star dies it collapses on itself creating a black hole. As a black hole forms it sucks everything into it, and within a certain distance light cannot escape. The lands are converging because the collapsing fire is a black hole. The Kiln is inside the event horizon, where the world has collapsed in onto itself creating a crushed landscape of different lands.

When an event like the death of a star occurs, it doesn't occur everywhere simultaneously, because information takes time to propagate. If a star has collapsed then an observer closer to the star sees light disappear first, while a distant observer doesn't experience any change at all. Dark Firelink is closer to the dying star so the light 'disappears' at Firelink before it disappears anywhere else in the world. Light Firelink is the image of Firelink trapped on the event horizon, frozen in time at the moment before the end of the world.

We're trapped in time on this event horizon, fated to fail over and over again to re-ignite the fusion reaction which fuels the star. We have to use the power of the Lord vessel to travel out of this area, collect fuel from the moment before the world ends, and then travel back into the event horizon to chuck it on the fire. As we move through locations we are functionally moving through time, because a single moment like the death of a star doesn't occur simultaneously everywhere, but instead travels outwards through space like a ripple. You could interpret this as all of DS3 taking place in a single moment before the end of the world.

t.BadScienceVaati
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Who the fuck deletes a perfectly fine slightly early thread for an [Embed] edition?
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>>171558801
Assassin's hood
Assassin's coat
Nameless K***ht gloves
Herald trousers

Lightweight, comfy, efficient
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>>171558801
>Dark Souls 3
>Fashion

Best joke to come out of /dsg/
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I made a new one because the last one was dull, but I have no photoshop talent so it looks like arse. Enjoy yourselves anyway.
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>>171558801
the firekeeper's clothes are all top-tier for chicks. I really like the big hat too, although I'd prefer if there were also maskless and hatless versions. Anything of Lautrec with archdeacon gown.
My favourite pyrohexer fashion and maximum comfy would be the blindfold with dragonscale armor. Not sure about the gloves and feet, maybe firekeeper and grave warden.
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I'm trying out Dorhy's Gnawing on bossfights and it's awesome. From my wiki research the bleed effect is independent of scaling or talisman/chime strength. So is it correct I should just use whatever can cast it the fastest? Sage ring + saint tree bellvine chime would be all I need to get the most out of it?
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>>171559110
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>>171559194
Test dummy here, rolling
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Patch notes should've been here 3 hours ago, I wonder what's up?
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>>171559470
patch notes aren't due for 21 hours
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>>171559404
>Greatweapons
>R2s only
>>30% weight
>+5 before Deacons/Watchers
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>>171559064
Balance is important to make sure that the breadth of gameplay options and mechanics available feel rewarding and worthwhile.

A shitty game is one where you have a dozen attacks but only one worth using. Your game might have complexity, but in practice it's shallow as mud. Bad balance has kept a lot of options in DaS3 from being worthwhile for single player, and that affects the overall singleplayer experience. When a player looks for a new weapon to try and finds everything is shittier than their straightsword, it affects their enjoyment of the game. When a person considers trying a caster playstyle only to find that it's weak and tedious and has only a couple good spells while the vast majority are terrible, it definitely impacts their experience.

What's worse is that since the player obviously doesn't want to trial-and-error through 50 spells to find the few good ones, the fact that there's so many bad spells is intimidating.

Imagine being a guy on your first playthrough with a spare attunement slot (since the knight starts with one) and looking through the list of possible buffs you could attune and the spells with low reqs you could afford. How the hell are you gonna know if Carthus Beacon is worth the stat investment? Given how shit most spells are, you make the safe assumption that this spell will be shit, too, and instead just stick to playing without spells in general because every option seems like a loser.
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>>171558931
I wouldn't say it's the last patch, they may release at least one more to balance DLC shit after it's been put through its paces by the playerbase
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>>171559575
what if it it ends up being 50 weapons that do the exact same thing ???
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>>171559194
>194
>Fully unlocked Greatweapon doing R2s only. Clearing the DLC early while repeatedly invading.
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>>171559674
>removes Ringed Knight Sword WA
please
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>>171559101
>When a star dies it collapses on itself creating a black hole.
wrong
only really big stars do that.
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>>171559101
Oooh that's a good one.
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>>171559554
Think you do the +5 by dipping into Ariandel to bumrush the 2 giant wolves.
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>>171559675
that's poor balancing
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>>171559702
they'll just change it from a 4hit combo to a 2hit combo like everything else
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>>171559776
sorry ur post looks well thought out and i'm stupid :c
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>>171559809
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>>171559702
It might not deal much damage. It's a quad scaling weapon and the footage we've seen is from very high level characters, where it was hitting 800 odd. Drop that number to account for stats at 120 and you've got combo damage that's not hugely out of line. I also seem to remember it bouncing off a shield.
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>>171559371
allright I just tried it out, no rings but sages (+0), bell vine with no upgrades @ 45 faith adn it was still bleeding like crazy against Oceiros. Kind puts the other miracles to shame as far as pure PvE goes.
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>>171559969
Yeah, bleed is nuts because it does % damage, not flat

More HP = bigger ouchies
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>>171559969
>Kinda puts the other miracles to shame as far as pure PvE goes.
that's not something to brag about, unfortunately
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Really want to roll a new character for TRC, but ME:A comes out tomorrow =/
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>>171560139
>but ME:A comes out tomorrow
kill yourself
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>watching my brother die repeatedly to the Anor Londo silver knight archers
Brings back memories.
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>>171559675
That would tend to be a failure of concepting. Like in DaS2, for example, every magic school does damage the same way, with a fast and spammable ranged projectile that has a bit of tracking. It isn't really variety.

You can fix this through balancing, though. For example, the main distinction between lightning spear and soul arrow is that the former does double-damage in melee. That gives it some unique identity and distinct use. The problem is that, currently, that spell is too weak relative to the way it hurts things.

In some cases you can add variety by introducing distinct numerical strengths and weaknesses (executioner's GS is buffable single-stat but weak AR without buffs, wolf knight is unbuffable quality but strong with just scaling). In a lot of cases with DaS3, things are already unique and interesting, they just suck. They fail to be attractive options despite the potential for unique gameplay because they don't have big enough numbers to have a meaningful impact. Carthus beacon is a good example: you waste two attunement slots and a small number of caster stats for a blessed weapon buff that lasts half the duration of BW and potentially gets slightly stronger after you've already killed everything within reach. The duration is too short considering its long setup time, and the actual impact on your gameplay is minimal because the damage increase is marginal.

DaS3 is full of options that are like that: high oppourtunity cost for low returns, or just low returns in general that make you question "why bother?"
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Should I give a shit about poise if I'm using a greatsword?
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Fuck. I'm trying to put together a strength/faith build for the dlc. What are the best faith weapons?
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>>171558931
can't wait for darkdrift to get another 10AR boost at 40/10

or maybe they nerf sorceries more and make the crown do nothing?

or maybe nerf yhorms just like they raped FUGS
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>>171560225
Nah, I'm alright, but you should really think about it. If you feel so strongly against other people playing different games, then obviously you have some problems.
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>>171560139
what's ME:A?
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>>171560369
it's not playing different games, it's supporting shitty companies
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>>171560474
Mass Effect: Andromeda
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>>171560474
Minority Eraser: Aryan edition
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>>171560139
>buying ME:A
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>>171560497
>implying Bamco isn't a shitty company
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>>171560227
I just realised he's using a +0 Claymore in Anor Londo. No wonder it took like 6 backstabs to kill a single silver knight.

OandS may break him if he doesn't find the Giant Blacksmith.
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>>171560087
some miracles are pretty good at PvE though since you can exploit boss patterns and support everybody


side note, I tried using replenishment, anri's sword and a blessed parrying dagger to see if the regen was worth it at all. Awful. I only have 30 vig and it was barely trickling in. You are better off just off handing a simple infused weapon and using the FP to cast healing miracles instead. For long levels where I'll probably run out of estus I take two simple parrying daggers. always one offhand unless I'm casting and if there is a lull in the battle I swap my primary weapon for the other.
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>>171560581
they can do no wrong
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>>171560541
Why not? Cause of the shitty facial animations and sub par voice acting? How is this any different than other Bioware games. It's amusing to me how shocked people are when something that always happens happens.
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>>171558931
>>171559674
They'll likely have one more patch before TFF Edition is out, in April. I expect that to be the final one.
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>>171560693
>How is this any different than other Bioware games.
clearly you haven't seen the team behind it
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>>171558571
So for a lv30-35-40 sorcerer you just go all about INT and use a simple gem in a longsword in Ds3?
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PATCH NOTES WHEN?
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>>171560239
>Like in DaS2, for example, every magic school does damage the same way, with a fast and spammable ranged projectile that has a bit of tracking.
Aside from upgraded versions of the same spells, that isn't really the case.
DaS2 has the most varied spells in the series.
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>>171560818
Tomorrow, at 10am Central Europe Time.
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>enemy jumps in the air
>instant iframes
>i jump in the air
>receive counter damage
XDD
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>>171560693
lmao
It's going to be a broken ass game with terrible writing and gameplay, but hey you get to have terribly animated sex with blue space shrek
The ending has you merge with your robot AI mother which is retarded as well
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>>171560139
fuck off please
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>>171560798
Still waiting on what is different in the actual game
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So who's going to be the last boss of the series, lads? I'm thinking it's going to be the serpents, the furtive pygmy, or Velka.

Anyone thinking From could surprise us with the final boss, like by having it be a minor character from the lore?
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>>171560815
>simple gem in a longsword in Ds3?

if you're going all out on int you should also go all out on equipment: dusk crown and candlestick while blasting away with court sorcerer staff
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>>171560139
MEA is a steaming pile of shit, just like every bioware game since dragon age origins and mass effect 1
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>>171561090
solaire
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>>171561090
Ludleth

he did say he would die a collosus
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>>171560693
It's a (poorly made) sims dating game for tumblr faggots, by tumblr faggots, not a cool colonial sci fi exploration game
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>>171560239
Not everything that's bad in DS3 is also uniquely interesting, but yea I absolutely agree with the principle. It's heartbreaking when some of the options with the best internal balancing of their strengths and weaknesses are made redundant by one other extremely boring option that happens to be overtuned.

Friede's Scythe by itself is a fantastically designed weapon. It has uses for its entire moveset including both WA's, 1H and 2H R1s and R2s, they all have something going for them and are balanced well against each other. Then you stick it in a game where the whole weapon itself is bad because the numbers don't compete with a SS 1HR1.
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>>171560995
if the hitboxes arent taking it srsly neither should you.
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>>171561090
post yfw the ultimate secret end boss is actually unbeatable, doesn't show a healthbar when you hit him and he delevels you everytime he kills you. The only way to 'beat' him is through dialogue options with NPCs that turn him friendly.
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good burial gift for both cleric and sorcerer?
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>>171561349
I usually just pick the white branch because then the giant starts out friendly, saving you an elevator ride to befriend him.
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>>171559194
I'll roll for this
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>>171561297
t. Toby Fox
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>>171559194
fgsfds
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>>171561518
>sorc only
>70+ carry weight
>use every CREO

welp
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>>171558752

Is it the 27th yet?

I guess it's time to get wasted and invade people whilst drunk again. That makes the days go faster.
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>>171561297
>You died
>But you refused
Ebin :-DD
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anyone want to summon for demon frog song
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>>171561784
>Greatweapon running R2s only and kill all 3 Crabs with Dried finger on.
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>>171561090
manus
aka primeval man
aka the pigmy
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>>171561297
>>>/t/umblr
>>>/vg/utg
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>>171561090
I would absolutely love it if I got in there and the boss name showed up as 'The Primordial Serpent,'

it's Frampt and Kaathe revealed to be two sides of one serpent, now incredibly aged and gone hollow themselves
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>>171561842
>>171561734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fh4aMniXMAw

>you get reduced to SL0 but refuse to stay down.
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>>171562152
>two sides
>not 10
>non-pygmy based life
>going hollow
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>>171562031
I'm on PC btw. Does soul memory matter when summoning for a boss? I'm 1096944
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>>171561842
>>171561734

>tfw I didn't even realize I was making an undertale reference.
tfw I realize I'd love it even more as an undertale reference
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>>171560923
>5AM EST
>2AM PST
Why?
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>>171562397
They're still making up notes to look like they did their homework
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>>171562152
I think you forgot that there's like 8 or so of those serpents, and that both frampt and kaath are on your side if you go dark lord
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>>171562383
canonically, the PC doesn't go mad through sheer determination. treat this as a reference, because you aren't getting more
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>>171562397
because Europe > Amerifats.
Afterall Germany is Japans favorite country besides itself :^)
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>>171562397
Because that community manager guy is from France.
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>>171562498
>canonically, the PC doesn't go mad through sheer determination.

I like to think that's also how Ludleth linked the fire.
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PATCH WHEN
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>>171561090
The Ringed City will introduce a new character early on that you will confront as the final boss. They will have little relation to the story of the souls series as a whole beyond being an explanation for why Gwyn gave the pygmies a city. It won't be the furtive pygmy or any existing lore character, and will have lose relations to them at best.

There will be a broken pendant callback that doesn't go anywhere or answer any questions, too.
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>>171561090

Godhead, the God, the creator, et cetera
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>>171562803
I hope they bring Nashandra back, I loved her gigeresque design.
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>>171561090
>another literally who that raises more questions than answers
Just watch it happen
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>>171562765
It will come out the second you help me, Anon, fight the demon frog song boss.
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>>171561090
we'll find the real source of power for miracles
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>>171562803
>The Ringed City will introduce a new character early on that you will confront as the final boss.
That old pilgrim woman ?
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>>171562941
Bit anon, that's your belief in yourself
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>>171563018
that's way too positive of a message for Miyazaki, miracles have to be powered by literally satan or some bullshit. Or god has to be an evil soul devouring monster that thrives on suffering and then you punch god in the face to prove all religion is wrong.

this is japan we're talking about anon.
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>>171562967

The other person you meet early on is Rap (or whatever his name is), who's probably Patches as he's started to go hollow, or he's putting it on. He's looking for the Purging Monument in TRC.

I can't see him being the boss. Aiding, perhaps.
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>>171561195
did you try parrying it?
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The final boss is a True King Allant style fight against The Furtive Pygmy who only weakly fights back. When you kill him, he turns into a giant abyss creature called Humanity's True Essence, and upon defeating that you receive the primordial lord soul which looks like a humanity sprite. This item gives you a fifth ending to the game, by letting you burn it in the firelink bonfire; this creates a world that will never again cycle, and the flame will burn forever by siphoning power from the spirits of mankind. It's implied humans will be far weaker in this state, but you bring stability to the universe by doing so.
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>>171563178
what if Rapp is Pate?
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>>171563135

Japs seem to be butthurt over Semitic religions. I guess the whole, if you don't believe you're going to hell stuff, warrants some hurt.
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>>171563262
there's also the fact that a primarily christian and jewish country dropped some nukes on them.
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>>171563179
It's a Curved GS. If you're worried about being parried you're much better off just deadangling it, and not opening yourself up to getting fucked by missing a half hour animation that consumes all your stamina for no damage.
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tfw no anon wants to help you
;_;
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>>171563304

I figure that's not as important as they started it.

They probably think it's backwards to believe in such or something, and that Europeans that do are strange.
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Any feasible way of using Morne's Great Hammer of Massive Stat Requirements without being sl 120?
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>>171563384
if you're the DaS2 anon you forgot to post your SM
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>>171563304
Good riddance
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>>171563215
How do you know that ? Are you a friend of John Fromsoftware ?
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>>171563395
>that's not as important as they started it.
>he still thinks pearl harbor wasn't a false flag operation to excuse america's entrance into the war.

wew lad
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>>171563437
I'm PC, SM 1096944, Boss Demon of Song
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>>171563484
My dad works at The Ringed City
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>>171563440
if nothing else traumatizing the shit out of them helped created a lot of great media.
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>>171563215
I'm honestly curious, why do people try this stuff?
Like, it's not even close to believable. If you were trying to trick someone, I assume you'd at least dress up your lie and make it convincing.
But then why? Did you just want to write out fanfiction but didn't know any other way to word it?
Were you just trying to present your speculah like it was a fact so people might take you a little more seriously?

How goddamn bored do you have to be to waste your time with this shit? At least if you had drafted it up as prose, you'd have killed time and produced something half-worth reading, but instead you spent your idea on a thesis to the dumbest paper possible and dumped it on 4chan to be casually dismissed and mildly insulted.

Reevaluate yourself
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>>171563520
>>171563437
>SM

I'm still dirty about this absolutely dogshit mechanic. it's the single worst thing to happen in the entire soulsborne series.
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>>171560995
The number of times enemies have dodged soul arrows at optimum range by performing normal animations has driven me near insane. I out-loud called horse shit when thralls in the archives can repeatedly dodge locked-on fucking soul arrows by throwing firebombs while standing in place.

I never appreciated how fucking broken this game's lock-on was until I used magic memery.
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>>171563564
2 nukes wasn't enough actually
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>>171563018
But anon, that's heresy
no, seriously, that's what dark miracles are
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>>171559713
Are you trying to tell me Sir that the Dark Souls series may not be entirely realistic?
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>>171563942
now post a webm with running attacks
cause you can redirect them just like this
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>>171563942
I'm saying the analogy is shit, because the first flame isn't actually the sun in either case.
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>>171563736
You're right. The final boss is actually Miyazaki himself.
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>>171563401
29 str 25 fai with knight and priestess rings.
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>>171563401
faith and knights ring would help, but the weight is also an issue if youre not wearing rags or leather, so havels....and at that point youre using 3 ring slots for a great hammer that doesnt even have a unique WA...so no not really.
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>>171564016
>mfw people will believe any stupid garbage you make up except that which is actually written in-game
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>>171558801
Im using Undead Legion armor an sorcerer's hood, matches pretty well. I've seen that the Firelink helm looks pretty good with it, but I dont want to place all the cinders yet, on the off-chance that Ludleth has new dialog with the dlc.
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>>171563942
What am I looking at here?
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Hey boyos. Very casual RPG player here. Never really played that many RPGs other than Bethesda games.

My friend suggests I try out the Dark Souls trilogy. Should I get those games and play through that or try The Witcher 3 instead? Obviously you guys are biased, but maybe some of you here likes both and can give me an opinion
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>30 hours in
>just realised you can press right stick while in the menus to see your character to make trying stuff on quicker
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I'm new to DS3 pvp and really shit at it. I've maxed out the Demon's Fist (because I really like it), Millwood Battle Axe, Valorheart, and Wolf Knight Greatsword.

I like using the Black Knight Shield with the Axe and Greatsword as I enjoy WA shields and it has great stability.

Any recommendations on other weapons to upgrade all the way? I'm thinking of Gundyr's Halberd and both the BKGA/BKGS. Maybe a straight sword as well.

I really like playing aggressively, but have little knowledge how. I typically use jumping attacks after using two R1s as people tend to roll in a way that lets the attack land. I'm also traumatized against pyromancers. Jesus, they're terrifying. I couldn't approach one because of Fire Surge and Onyx Blade, but I couldn't stay away because of the myriad of other spells.

Basically this post is me saying i suck at pvp and want to know how to git gud without just becoming a turtle.
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>>171564194
Why do you need strangers on the internet to make a decision for you or justify a choice for you. Why not make your own choice for once you fucking tool.
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>>171564194
witcher 3 is a meme game aka bad.
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>>171564196
>55 hours in
>just realised i can buff my estus by burning ashes at Firelink's bonfire
why the fuck would ashes burn?
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>>171564151
The ability to flick instantly to any angle you like at a certain point in the attack animation. Notable because DS2 doesn't do this.
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What does the onyx blade weapon art do? Does it just add fire damage? Does it turn the dark damage to fire damage?
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>>171564280
Why even read video game reviews or ask anybody else for any advice ever? I just want another perspective you pretentious cunt
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>>171564342
The playable character is literally ash or something.
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>>171564342
You're burning bones, not ashes
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nvm anons. 3rd times the charm.
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>>171564194
Yes dark souls is good. No its not too hard for you. Yes the story is vague and combat wonkey. No the PvP is not worth it. The witcher 3 is stale and a slightly upgraded skyrim. You pick.
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>>171564368
It simply adds fire damage.
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>>171564616
How much does it add?
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>>171564638
150
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>>171564342
Nice try, but the "Burn Undead Bone Shard" option comes up at the Firelink Shrine bonfire every single time you go there, even when you don't have any. The item itself says "Cast it into the shrine bonfire to boost the recovery provided by the Estus Flask." Nobody would actually be that retarded.
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>played game on release
>hundreds of hours with only one dorkmoon summon
>playing now months later
>waiting for summons, just throw on dorkmoons for the hell of it
>minute later get summoned
>win
>20 seconds or so after getting back get summoned again

sl 117 with a +10 weapon. what the fuck. did they patch it or something? this is awesome
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>>171564392
Or you could do your own research instead of needing to be spoonfed you little faggot
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>>171564638
150.

It's a tax to make an otherwise ridiculously good weapon deal not-mediocre damage.

Also twinking with it hardcore because it's a flat 150 regardless of scaling.
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>>171564249
The weapons you listed are mostly meta and very strong. You shouldnt have trouble against most pyros with gunderps or blacked sheild. If you like agressive go for a bleed build using warden blades short sword etc. Also spears are super meta atm so there that.
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>>171564697
Your priority in the summoning queue has always been based on success ratio in defending hosts. Originally it was counting failed connections in the background as failed defenses, so everyone got shit on. They patched it to not do that, but everyone was still using ancient 120 characters that had a billion failures recorded. You can crack it open in CE and check for yourself, or just start any new character and equip the covenant at the Undead Settlement.
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>>171564674
>>171564531
I think Anon is talking about DaS2
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>>171564865
>Firelink
>DaS2
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>>171564940
it could have been a simple typo. no one is dumb enough to miss it in 3
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>use axe
>get parried
>use greatsword
>get parried
>use halberd
>get parried
>use a great-fucking-hammer
>
I have been memed for the last time.
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Wtf does heysal pick scale with

no infusions on this bitch, pure INT here
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>>171565040
*parries rolling attack*
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>>171564126
where's that from? It looks like Linus Almroths style.
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>>171565040
bait parry into UGS WA or some shit mane, unless your playing against a god theyll fuck up most of the time. Although honestly im not sure why the fuck parrying smoughs is a thing..
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>>171564194
Souls games are a nice mix between action game and RPG. If you're good enough at the former, you can beat damn near anything with no concern for stats and gear and all that jazz. If you're good enough at the latter, you can stack enough stats and power to obviate the need for skill, or find some balance in between. The flexibility in playstyles is one of its biggest virtues.

If you liked zelda games, particularly the N64 ones, you'll be pretty much right at home with the basics of combat and gameplay. It borrows a lot of the same ideas. Do note that Dark Souls is pretty much all combat and exploration; there is little-to-no puzzle solving and NPC questlines are largely vestigial and inconsequential.

The first game is generally the best starter for obvious reasons but is also the worst of the three at explaining basic mechanics and the most unforgiving to new players. Bear in mind going in that the start will be slow and you'll need patience to figure things out if you're committed to going through blind. Otherwise, there's really no shame in looking up basic info liker "how do I parry" or "how does weapon upgrading work" or "which stats are good"

The only thing that every new player absolutely must know going into dark souls is that Resistance is a useless stat and should never be leveled under any circumstance.
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>>171565040
good luck hitting anyone who's located their dodge button.
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>>171565195
>not being a passive bitch and fishing exclusively for trades when your opponent gets impatient and careless.
The key to mastering the greathammer is first mastering the art of dodging washingpole running attacks indefinitely. When they realize you won't attack and therefore won't get hit by their only move, they start trying things that aren't immune to consequences.
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>>171565052
It's D/E/B/- at +0, do you really need to ask?
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>>171564194
Dark Souls being hard is a meme. It's only punishing. If you have a really hard time against an area, you've either missed something that should help you with it or are in a later game area.
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>>171565154
quest 64 > oot
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>>171565140
Need more r63 souls
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>>171564808
First: that picture is cool.

Second: I'm not big on buffs, as most of my weapons aren't buffable and I stupidly limit myself (for example, I don't use throwing items), but I will give it a try, though. I'm interested in using pine bundles as they seem like a fun and quick attack boost, similar to a short Warcry.

I sometimes "use" Drang Twinspears in my offhand for fashion, but i didn't know spears other than the Gargoyle Flame Spear was really good. I might upgrade the Drang Spears almost all the way to try them out like I did the Astora Greatsword. That was a fun weapon. Not even +10 and I got almost 1,000 damage on a charged R2 after Leo Ring.

What's a good UGS to upgrade? I have 25 VIT and pretty heavy armor so I can forego a shield to use a heavy weapon.
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>>171565549
If you're a quality build (str and dex) then the Profaned GS, BKGS, and Astora GS are all good choices
If you're a strength build, FUGS is the only option.
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Best sword for a sorcerer twink besides raw ASS? I dont wanna waste points into FTH.
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>>171565683
Depends on your physical stats
No split-damage weapon is good at a low upgrade level except the ones with built-in buff WAs, and there's pretty much none of those except the GSoJ

That means you're stuck with raw weapons, most of which have fairly high reqs.
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>>171565683
>wasting points in luck instead of using the best twink weapon
start pyro, you fucknugget
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>>171565683
Put your catalyst in your right hand and put the rapier in your left so you can parry & stab. If you get a parry you just have to 2h the rapier to get the riposte.
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>>171565489
all i got friendo
>>171565549
Im not a big buff guy either but bleed builds are pretty fun and very agressive. Pine bundles are sadly not that great unless you like spamming them. Drangs are ok but take a while to get good with usually. Im bias and would suggest the profained ultra, since its heavy WA has a sort of push crouch animation at the start you can trick people into giving you space by starting but not commiting and also test to see if they even know what it does, if they dont roll, finish up with the heavy and send them flying. Plus even if it doesnt connect the bonus fire damage is nice and means you can skip resins.
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>>171558571
Is the last DLC a short piece of shit too?
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>>171563135
so that's why all "gods" in japanese lore can die?
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In DaS1, as a pyro wielding a Great Scythe, should I go for a Chaos infusion or just normal +15?
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>>171565620
I've upgraded the first three nearly all the way as well as the LKGS. I'll probably got m go for the PGS or BKGS because that R1>R2 combo is beautiful.

FUCK. I forgot about Tsorig. I kept telling myself as I was playing "Get the ring and armor." Then I never fought him once. I'll get to that when I'm not sick.

Thank you for helping me. I'd also appreciate any general tips for pvp.

Fun fact: The Profaned Greatsword gets an AR boost during its upward swing in the WA. This boost is not only different, but higher than the buff. From what I've experimented with, no other UGS has this trait.
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>>171566056
Well it's confirmed to have more than 2 bosses so hopefully not.
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>>171566056
tRC looking to be pretty long.

AoA was short as fuck but good for as long as it lasted.
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>>171566087
Profaned GS also gets the same AR boost when you fully charge any of its R2s
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>>171566041
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>>171564674
tl;dr.
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>>171566158
>>171566041
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>>171566056
Reps have claimed they heard the criticism from the first DLC and set out to make this one significantly longer

And though the refused to specify, they did confirm there will be more than two bosses.
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>>171566213
My DICK is too long for you to read
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>>171566103
>>171566104
I hope so, if its really the last Part of the series it should be a little game itself.
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>>171565040
still, you shouldn't get parried that often
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>>171566074
+15. No reason you shouldn't be levelling your dexterity.
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>>171566074
you want 45 dex for max casting speed, so i'd recommend +15. since you can't really buff as a pyro, I'd recommend trying out the lifehunt scythe. more damage, better bleed, its only downside is the self-bleed.
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best melee weapon for ds2 first time sorcerer?
I have 40 int, 30 att,10 dex and 10 str. Everything else is baseline. Currently I'm staying under 50% so I can roll and dodge the bosses effectively.
My sorcerers staff is +5. And I'm currently using the fire longsword as my melee weapon.
I also use the black flamestone pharma because it blocks 85%
Where do I go from here?
Where can I go from here?
What armour should I wear and which equipload do I stay at?
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>>171564196
Try it while leveling
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>>171565840
>>171566152
Thank you. I'll upgrade the Profaned Greatsword, Gundyr's Halberd, and a quick weapon then give them a shot when I get the chance.
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>>171566331
No bully Priscilla
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>>171566301
>>171566331
I thought so as well, thanks for helping out.
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>>171566592
>>>/r/eddit/PoP
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>>171566407
someone help
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>tfw the final boss is probably just some random jackoff guy in armor called "King of the Ring" or something
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>>171566592
Bully Priscilla, she's a shit waifu anyway
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>>171566742
Sounds about right.
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>>171566407
please help
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>>171566041
>>171566158
>>171566262


>autism
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>>171566407
50 int, more hp and stamina, physical stats for the mlgs. don't forget to try out powerstanced blue flames. can blue flame be powerstanced with the mlgs? try that as well for maximum spellsword. mlgs left hand for those r1-l1 combos while casting spells with r2
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>>171566912
Post more waifus and I'll help you
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>>171567002
isn't the MLGS lategame?
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WHATS IT WITH SHIT NIPS AND FUCKING DOGS WHY ARE THESE THE WORST CREATURES IN THE ENTIRE GODDAMN GAME FRANCHISE ID TAKE ANY BOSS OVER THEM ANYTIME FUCK THIS
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>>171567152
NG+ or Bonfire Ascetic
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>>171567152
not at all, just ascetic the lowest bonfire, next to ass crow's room.
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>>171567189
Acquire Proficiency.
Or Hyperarmour, Hyperarmour works too.
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>>171567276
and then what do I do?
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>>171567369
Excuse me? I told you want to do
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>>171567189
Get a shield(they will get stunned when you block them) or use alluring skull or use a fast fire weapon. Problem solved.
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>>171567189
Dude Teleporting Dogs lmao
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>>171567369
Kill Freja and she'll drop Seath's soul, then take Seath's soul to Crow Waifu
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>>171567507
I haven't gotten to that point yet
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>>171567625
Then get there
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>>171567625
the 4 great one bosses are balanced around the same level. if you can start right now and reach that point. where are you, anyway? have you played the game at least once?
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This armor better be in the last DLC or im gonna drop a 3rd nuke on Japan
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Lv20 +2 weapon blue sentinel on PC

what are the odds of me getting summoned
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>>171567926
>tfw no gold wing k***ht set
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>>171567926

Cleric's Gear is the clean version of it
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>>171567926
Oh boy wouldn't you just love EVERYTHING clipping on your back?
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BEST PLACE FOR INVADING IN DS3

I swear I've never lost an invasion when I invade at the Grand Archives.

I literally just sit and taunt at all the different ambush points, and as soon as they get to it, I rush in, swing a few times, and then bolt off to the next ambush area.

I had to go all the way to the boss fog one time, but most of the time they'll die before they get by the Gargoyle rooftop segment.
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W-what's happening?
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>>171568389
get ready
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>>171568289
Takes a lot more effort on your part but yeah its by far the best place if you want to always win all the time. Add white branches or chameleon for extra spice since keeping track of all the objects in the archives is impossible.
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>>171568006
0.1%
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Lmao wtf is wrong with DS3

I thought they didnt wanna make a 2nd Bloodborne
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>>171568389
Your world is no longer blessed by Gravelord Nito.
For now.
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>>171567812
no. I am at lost bastille.
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>>171568389
Gravelord Servants can infect your world with phantom AIDS, causing extra deadly monsters to appear in NG+ and up
If you're in NG, nothing happens, but if you find the Gravelord's sign you can still go to their world and bully them
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>>171568006
lvl a bit and use the woods/farron
>>171568657
Beyond the lycanthropes and pontiff beasts theres really not that much bloodbourne, this meme will only ever be stale.
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why is my word dark now and why are there invincible 2h spamming niggers all around Firelink?
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>>171566041
>GREEN with small shades of BROWN

>>171566158
>WHITE with small shades of GREEN and BROWN

>>171566262
>GRAY with small shades of GRAY and GRAY
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I havent played DS3 since it first came out. Are straight swords still the best? Is armor still useless and poise non existent? Why is this game still 60 fucking dollars on steam? Is magic worth a shit yet? How is the DLC that has been released?

>>171568389
Oh boy I remember getting this shit permanently in Tomb of the Giants
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>>171568842
how much is a little

I just wanna get those shitty ears
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I was trying to get up here for a very long time. I can't believe it.
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>>171568920
i've got fucking cancer
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>>171569010
well anal rodeo is better for dorks in general but if you wanna keep it low lvl stay round 30-40 in woods and cathedral for decent summons. The main issue is most new players dont use the blue shit cuz theyre stupid and most people that know about it know what theyre doing and dont need the help. Which is why anal is so good since hosts will slap it on for pvp fun times.
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>>171566742
>King of the Ring
>has a special armor styled after wrestler tights
>uses a modified version of gundyrs moveset but only with unarmed attacks
>drops the vanquisher seal that lets you use the moveset with any fist weapon
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>>171568957
yeah after looking at the final product, I'm thinking I should've picked a more uniform place to take the screenshots.

What's are some near identical zones across the Souls titles?

I was thinking maybe

>Northern Undead Asylum
>Lost Bastille
>Cathedral of the Deep

Or maybe

>Anor Londo
>Drangleic Castle
>Lothric Castle
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Whats a good str/heavy weapon before DSA/Yhorms? Im using Butchers knife currently and it just doesn't feel right.
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>>171569909
Zwei
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>>171569909
great club or the dlc shit like millwood battleaxe and quakestone hammer
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>>171568006
Right let me explain, you can only be summoned to area's you've already been to, so head to all but the catacombs and you'll get summons every 5minutes ish
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>>171569909
>>171569972
legit
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>>171570017
Alright I see, why not the catacombs though?
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>>171566742
>king of the ring

I'd be okay with fighting a boxing/wrestling boss.
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So I was invading on my sl50 raw guy, and I invaded a madman named The Black Knight. He had three piles for me to pick up, and each one was 99 Souls of a forgotten champion. Will I get banned for using them, or should I toss them? Not like I need them really, but I could always buy more consumables with them.
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>tfw will never be cuddled and doted on by Priscilla ;-;
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>>171569972
>str weapon
>zwei is quality
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>>171570202
Zwei is perfectly good on a str build.
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>>171570286
It has less AR than a millwood axe
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>>171570127
Because the only reason i can think of why you want to do blue sentinels is to plat the game, and going to the catacombs kills Yoel.
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>>171570193
Thine desires shall be requited not.
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>>171570193
ikr why even live ;_;
also what the fuck is going on after the 2nd gundyr fight?
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>>171570384
Actually its to get the dork ring and get the most essential thing for my sorcerer
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>>171570193
I want to suck Priscilla's dragon cock.
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>>171570310
Millwood axe is broken, thing needs a nerf.
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>>171570514
;-;
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>>171570606
Nigga it's an axe
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>>171570606
More like Millwood axe is actually good and other strength weapons need a buff.
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>>171570286
Two handed heavy with 35str yields 498 dmg. Its terrible for an ultra.

Still its light and decently long, as well as having the ultra HA.
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What level are you going into the dlc with, and with what char?

Im kinda bummed that my main greatsword user is level 120. Its gonna be too high to enter the dlc with
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>>171570849
Are you kidding? There was a 125 dude getting near-one shot in the demos.
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>>171569103
What's wrong?
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>>171570286
40/40 refined - 597AR
19/60 sharp - 541AR
60/11 heavy - 536AR
>perfectly good on str
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>>171570772
The good things about the zwei are its weight, length and stamina costs. It's the only ugs you can stomp with at 25end and fap without bottoming out your stam.

Low stamina costs are a huge deal for an ultra.
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>>171570894
That was the fucking dev, and he was complete ass at the game
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>>171570987
Damage is damage.
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>>171570549
Abyss and shit, end times or whatever. Maybe a failed timeline, possibly it could mean that there may be things that convolute time.
>>171570849
Why would you not be able to enter the dlc at 120? Im going in with a 95, 125, and 270~
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>>171558931
Really hope they fixed the overlapping text for the Deacons of the Deep in the "transpose souls" menu
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>>171570706
Exactly, and thats why it should deal around the same amount of damage as an axe, something like 400 AR.
>>171570724
This is not a good idea. It would make it so ultras would all need to do more damage to compete resulting in ultras twoshotting most people.
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is there anyone who played ds1 after finishing ds3 and enjoyed it? i try to enjoy it but it just feels so fucking slow and clunky. rolling feels like im just falling down and getting up again
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>>171558571
How are they going to resolve so many open questions in just one DLC?
Ds3 was good but it doesnt felt like a satisfying ending for the series?
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>>171571036
Because im figuring it will be too easy. Its never funny playing with a overleveled char

>>171571012
True, but it helps if you arent complete shit at dodging
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>>171571036
and what the fuck am i supposed to do here? just grab some shit then return to the main timeline?
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>>171571227
Considering how easy it is to destroy ultra users, I'd be fine with that by this point.

>>171571228
No because most sane people play a series in order when the games are individually less than 20 hours long.
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>>171570849
I have a level 80 str build all set for the doorshields so I'll start with that.
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>>171571228
Well not to be an asshole but rolling is litterally falling down and getting up. But, i know whatcha mean. Ds1 is for sure slower mechanically but it shouldnt be so bad since everything else is just as slow and 'clunky'. But if its really that bad for you try getting ur hands on backflips asap and that should help.
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>>171571305
>How are they going to resolve so many open questions in just one DLC?
They aren't. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
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>>171571317
Go to a higher NG cycle and that problems solved.
>>171571357
Yeah grab the frag, the blue berries, and the fan service and gtfo, you got ashen one shit to do.
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>>171571459
>Demon Ruins littered with dead Capra
>no DGM in the game
I want it back.
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>>171571648
I miss how all the demon weapons in 1 were pure str powerhouses instead of the hybrid pyrostr shit we got in 3.
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>>171571610
That's a cozy cosplay.
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>have a vague urge to make a sorcerer, the one build I've never actually fucked around with in all the games
>no idea where to even start
Halp?
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>>171571807
Raise INT
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>>171559194
woowowowowow
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>>171571753
What are you on about? The demon weapons in 3 are still str weapons, the int/fai are just requirements.
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>>171571610
Damn, that cosplay as rad as fuck.
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>>171571228
>>171571459
4-directional rolling while locked on is what really kills DaS1 for me.
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>>171571945
>playing while locked on

shiggitydiggity m8
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Has anyone ever tried to successfully build Friede's face on a character? I remember someone saying that just ripping her face data directly via CE doesn't work, but has someone tried doing it manually?

Also, post Friede.
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>>171571807
DS3 is the first time sorcerer is fun, so you have that at least.

Start with the actual sorcerer class. Spam heavy soul arrow for the first part of the game because it's efficient. Gun for the Dusk Crown ASAP. Get flash sword because you'll need it. Get the crystal sage's rapier because it's the best INT weapon for a long, long time. Immediately get magic clutch and scholar's candlestick in Irithyll. Get bellowing as soon as you can hit up the dungeon without fucking Siegward's questline and the titanite slab. Get a simple gem because FP regeneration is worth it. These are most of your priorities.

You start off shit and eventually become fucking broken. You'll want great soul arrow and great heavy to replace your bread and butter later, flash sword to sweep mobs and melee fast bosses, pestilent mercury to cheese the shit out of a lot of otherwise difficult encounters, crystal soul spear when you get it for alpha striking tough mobs, and possibly soul greatsword or farron hail for nuking trash. Dark sorcery is a joke. Get to 60 INT, because for some reason spell buff scales better between 40 and 60. Upgrade your rapier and catalyst as often as you can. TAKE OFF THE DUSK CROWN WHEN YOU GET INTO THE ARCHIVES UNTIL YOU KILL THE SAGE JUST FUCKING TRUST ME. Pop into Ariandel if you feel like it because snap freeze works bizarrely well on some bosses.
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>>171572012
The fact there isn't a ton of porn of her sort of boggles my mind.
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>>171571648
>>171571753
It just sucks how all the demon shit we got is so meh and spread out stat wise. I wish it was more usable...and yeah no dgm is lame.
>>171571785
>>171571939
Nitos just the fucking best honestly. Bone lord is ok too.
>>171571945
>>171571981
yeah just try not locking if its hurting your movement that badly.
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>>171571228

Sounds like you didn't enjoy it for what it was back it the day.
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Any halberd alternative to the MLGS in ds2?
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>>171571492
Because you like Open Endings or because you think there will be a sequel?
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>>171572247
I don't think anyone would be holding a torch during Wolnir's fight in the final game, god damn lying marketers.
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>ds3 lore
what the fuck am i reading
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>>171572310
The closest you'll probably get is Dragonrider's, all of their weapons deal split Magical and can be infused.
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>>171572453
shit doesnt make sense yo just dont even try
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>>171572102
I appreciate the detail of this post
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Anyone got any tips for fighting Pontiff with Smough's Great Hammer?

I've barely got the stats to wield this thing. So my problem comes from the fact that Pontiff is relatively quick, and that rolls to create a window of attack + said attack rapes my stamina so I very often cannot roll away from his next attack. My damage is also quite underwhelming I have to say. Does he resists strike damage or something?


I must use Smough's Hammer, before anyone suggests I use a different weapon.
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>>171572453
What's so hard?
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>>171572465
alright I'll use that. I am an introvert and don't like carrying huge swords to compensate for my height or small penis. I'd rather use a practical weapon like a halberd
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>>171572453
I still have no idea how the fuck the Lords of Cinder work, it feels like incoherent fanfiction.
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>>171572523
Parry
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>>171572102
Not the anon you replied to but that is good to hear. Going to follow this verbatim.

Can you answer these questions I had? >>171568996Ignoring the 60$ one for obvious reasons
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So I don't get it. Firelink shrine, untended graves, kiln of the first flame. All the same place, but just different points in time? is it all just handwaved away with "tiem is disdorded in ldrand :DD"?
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>>171572542
>time travelling
>alternate universes
>why dont the lord of cinders want to sit at the thrones
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>>171572323
The latter, but also because I feel a definite, set-in-stone ending would sour the whole series, given how far we've come with simple vague allusions. I'm not even that big on the lore, I just think it'd be a cop-out for From to answer all the mysterious shit people have debated for all these years, as backwards as that sounds.
Just give us a good scattering of well thought out scraps and call it a day - like the usual, but better.
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>>171572517
The capslock bit is the most important part. You do not want negative magic absorption when that crusty old nigger is raining soul jizz on you while you're climbing ladders and stairs.

>>171572453
Don't read anything. 99% of what you'll find online is completely harebrained garbage made up by people who live in some strange alternate universe where "making the fewest assumptions" strangely isn't part of what makes a theory credible.
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>>171572631
The firelink shrine and the untended graves are the same place at vastly different times.
It's unclear about the kiln but it's probably a cross-dimensional "hub" of sorts. Considering it brings in different worlds together (cathedral of the deep and farron keep, for example, are not originating geographically from where they appear to be).
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>>171560325

Astora Greatsword with Lightning, nigga
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>>171564194

Please dont forget demon's souls, its the most unique of the three and the most friendly to beginners. The bosses are basically concept tutorials and will prepare you for the more aggressive stuff you'll get in the other games.
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>>171572615
The DLC is short because most of the work that went into it was PvP content. What singleplayer content there is, is really good and filled with amazing weapons. Ignore the meme shitting.

Straight swords are still amazing braindead R1 blenders, but the meta has largely shifted past them.

Poise now exists (sort of) and it's all that heavy armour is good for. It works essentially the same as it always has, but is only active during attacking frames, and not for light weapons, similar to the "hyper armour" we were babbling about before.

tl;dr: you can wear heavy armour and then tank through straight sword spammers with trivial ease using maces and anything heavier. People who go naked while using an ultra are shit out of luck.
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>>171572182
>there's porn of friede getting fucked by dancer but nothing of her with the corvians
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>>171572725
>>why dont the lord of cinders want to sit at the thrones

Because being burned sucks apparently and most of them got "tricked" into it at first or has better plans this time.

>Aldrich became a lord by devouring men, but was disillusioned with his throne, and so took to devouring gods instead.


I don't understand what you mean with time travelling/alternate universes and how those things could be hard to understand.
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>>171573004
>The bosses are basically concept tutorials and will prepare you for the more aggressive stuff you'll get in the other games
Man that's a real nice way of saying From rehashes the fuck out of the Demon's Souls in Dark Souls games.
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>>171572543
Major League Great Sword is still a pretty fun weapon, at least moreso than in DaS3. Spammable beams combined with Bracing Knuckle +2, Repair sorcery and Crown of the Old Iron King = infinite ammo.
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Halp, I need a cheat table to change my character's name.

I tried the only one I've found, Dark Souls +8(4.3), and it doesn't work, it always adds a shitton of korean or ASCII characters after the name.
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>>171573064
why do futafags have to ruin everything? just stick to canon futas, like manus
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>>171572182
It's hard to fap to someone after they've raped you.
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>>171572419
looks cool though
>>171572523
Parry like anon suggested, use gay weed and gay crest sheild, and then just learn what attacks you can punish and what attacks you cant.
>>171572725
Time travel aint a big deal, we fantasy n sheet.
Times been convoluted from the start, but really there are no alternate universes, just one big fucked up one, kinda like a maze of possibilities.
Aldrich is busy trying to find the deep, Abyss watchers are busy trying to civil war the fuck out of the abyss, Yhorm has given up on hope and life after the only person he cared for died, and the princes have been convinced by pope boss king lord pontiff the baller sulyvhan to not link jack shit.
>>171573121
if ur character is bellow 200 just remake.
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>>171572613
Feels a bit cheap but eh, I'm out of ideas.

Any advice for the timing though?
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>start a witcher 3 playthough
>its hugely popular on his channel
>suddenly stop because "muh reasons"
>start a seccond DS3 playthrough
>its hugely popular on his channel
>suddenly stops because "muh reasons"
>goes back to playing weeb games no one watches


what did he mean by this?
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>>171573229
Bait his jumping attack
Roll through it so that you end up right next to him
He will follow up with an attack that is incredibly easy to parry

His 2nd phase is pretty easy, just wail on him when he summons his stand and make sure he does it a lot (i.e. kill the stand)
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>>171573229
Just try it. It's not that hard, anon
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>>171573238
>starts 3 DeS playthroughs
>never finishes a single one
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>>171573238
What was/is his appeal outside being one of the "first" with demon's souls or whatever?
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>>171573229
Pontiff is probably the most brutal fight in the game for slow weapon users. Don't feel too bad.
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>>171573238
The longer I know ENB the less I like him, and he used to be my favorite Souls guy.

I guess my favorite now is Redgrave for bloodborne
Germanspy is pretty chill to watch.
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>>171573019
That is awesome, thank you.
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>we'll never get Marvellous Chester's set in DaS3
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>>171573384
His lore videos in dark souls were outstandingly thorough for the time.
Like for the time he was the best, but the world caught up and passed him.
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>>171573515
>one of the most aesthetic sets in the game
>requires you to dirty your hands
Man, I don't like killing NPCs
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>>171561090

Final boss is the mother dragon, drops the soul of the sun
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w-why does the Firekeeper offer me to kill her and strip her eyes?
would she hate a fireless ending?
shouldn't we let all this shit fade to reboot the cycle?
does it even fucking matter?
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>>171573438
No problem. I know what a pain in the ass it is to get any useful answers to anything.
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>>171573653
shes just giving you the option, shes your firekeeper and will do whatever you want anon.
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>>171573653
>tell her you don't want a fireless age
>get confused as to why she tells you to take away the things that would enable a fireless age
You're supposed to tell her that you want to end it all, you retard, then she just says that you have the option to kill her if you change your mind.
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>>171573653
>does it even fucking matter?

It doesn't, shit's fucked no matter what.
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>>171564048
Attacks with Silver Pendant and Commonfruit
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>>171573592
>3 out of the 5 new armor sets in AotA are obtained by killing NPCs
What did Memezaki mean by this ?
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>>171573384

He had gameplay tips and autism-levels of knowledge of the DS lore and tries to make conclusions about the story hich is impressive since there really isn't one.

His attempted witcher 3 playthrough was entertaining but he was literally "tfw too intelligent for games with a easily understandable plot"
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How would you feel if you never find the dark soul, gael goes hollow and tries to kill you at the purging monument

Painter girl asks you where uncle gael is, becomes depressed, says she cant see the flame anymore, disappears, and you find her remains at the bottom of the crevass which can be looted for her clothing.
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>>171573653
She doesn't want the eyes because they show her the result of going against everything she was raised to believe. All firekeepers are trained and raised up under the notion that linking the fire is the right thing to do. Not linking the fire is taboo to her order.
It was implied somewhere that linking the fire is unnatural, Gwyn committed sin by doing so.
So yes letting things fade are probably what we should do.

The usurp the fire ending might end up making a difference and mattering towards the future, but the game ends there so we won't know.
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>>171572867
and it's ambiguous as to wether the graves are in the distant past, or future isn't it? I saw some speculation it could be during a true age of dark. But the champ is there in all his glory, so it also should be long before current day firelink shrine. why is the maiden still alive and there I wonder.

I saw this there too, probably just a graphical thing. bottom of the screen. not sure if it's my character models reflection or something
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Hey guys, the demon in pain is Lothric and the demon from below is Lorian. You can screencap this once you read their soul descriptions.
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>>171573653

>cycle

Haha no som, the world gonna doe forever
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>>171573964
I couldn't care any less about those two literal whos so it wouldn't phase me much beyond those being two more unnecessary NPC deaths for the list.
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>>171574000
trips confirm it
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>>171574000
We already got the description for its soul last month, dingus.
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>>171573978
The maiden being there completely blows my mind anon. Like I can't even.
But there are a few different sources that all imply untended graves happened a long time ago in the past.
The item description of champ/gundyr implies this by how it refers implicitly to the player character.
Ludleth has dialogue that pretty explicitly talks about the firekeeper eyes you find and about how he remembers the events that took place.
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>>171574000

Hurr durr no its not retard, its the demon prince and his brother. They drop the soul of the twin demons.

Lorian smashed the demon prince's face in half and cast him down, the demon from below shared his soul with his brother, just like lorian does, to alleviate his brothers suffering.
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>>171574000
>The Demon Prince, after his defeat to Lorian, retreated beneath the earth and lost the memory of the flame that burned within him, marking the end of demonkind.
Really makes you think.
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>>171573947
>tries to make conclusions about the story hich is impressive since there really isn't one.
Haven't watched any celebrity content on it but I felt like DeS was clearly a twisted Noah story?
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>>171568531
>>171568289
What are some of the ambush points?
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post your fashions give me some inspiration
rate my /fa/
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>>171573804
that sounds hot. i need more of this comics.
>>171573976
i'm gonna do taboo things with her.
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>>171570976
The thing about the WA is that id rather use bastard sword for that.

Its one of those underrated weapon that actually excels with str or normal infusion
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>>171574184
Do you have a link?
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>>171574438
I'm not very fashionable.
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>>171573947
>Demon's Souls
>no story
There is a clear and definite story, it's very straight forward and you don't need to read any item descriptions to know what's going on.
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>>171574000
Dumb Kumiko poster
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>>171572613
>>171573217
My biggest problem by far though is that I can't see the fucking pontiff because the hammer is too big.
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>>171574671
>>171558571
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Why lightning blade and not sunlight blade in das3?
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>>171574671
That Vaati pastebin in the OP.
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>Gamespot took down the Demon Prince video
Was it because Nintendo websites linked it after Gamespot mistakenly put the "footage captured on Switch" tag in it ?
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>>171574338
>>171574338

miss typed, meant Dark souls
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>>171574941
And probably because they're not allowed to show phase 2
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>>171573978

It's in the past by all evidence

LOC either linked it and it's starting back up or it's prior to them doing it
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>>171574401
Book shelves have lots of corners, all ladders, elevators, litterally every corner on the roof since the gargs got your back, wing kn***ht bros area, also with a silver cat you can drop rom rafters onto certain platforms and plunge kids ez.
>>171574476
its a one off i think, sadly.
>>171574770
>just smough things
though really pontiff has a good amount of grunts to help tell you what hes doing, the deepest one is his 7 move combo so jus watch for that shit
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>>171575026
Yeah, they did a similar thing with the "10 minutes of TRC" video. They took it down and reuploaded a version that had the pilgrim hag's inventory and the Splitleaf's stats cut out, since they weren't allowed to show them.
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Is the hate for Dark Souls 2 largely unjustified?
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>>171575338
No, but it's very out of proportion
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>>171575338
I want /v/ to leave
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>>171559194
Ooh, rolling!
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Patch notes when?
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>>171575338
Largely might be too generous.
It's half justified, half not.
There was a lot, a lot of valid criticism around release. But anymore most of what you here is just memes being spouted and regurgitated by people who didn't even play it. Probably the biggest criticism that still lingers is simply the fact that nobody really cares enough to talk about it anymore outside of those memes . The valid criticism is hardly worth repeating because nobody seems to even care anymore
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>>171575525
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>>171575630
Thanks
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>>171575338
>soul memory
need i say more why this is the most dog shit souls game in the series
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Can we see the necks of the character if he is wearing Leohnard mask and Lucathiel set? It's for muh fashion
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>>171573515
Man, Chester really looks like he came straight from some sort of upper class in Yharnam, maybe before they invented firearms.
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>>171575178
My dex/fth build just got to the front doors of the archive. I guess tomorrow I'm spending some time invading there.

>>171575465
How the fuck am i going to get a +5 before deacons/watchers. I'm going to reroll that.
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>>171575971
>How the fuck am i going to get a +5 before deacons/watchers. I'm going to reroll that.
You go into the start of Ariandel and you kill the 2 big wolves for 6 Large Titanite
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the serpent guys in archdragon peak are fucking annoying enemies

especially later in the stage where they form gank squads
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>>171575178
>grunts
I don't hear shit from Pontiff, quietest boss in the game for me what the fuck
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reee didn't all the items and shit leak earlier for the last DLC?

We need more ultras.
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>>171574683
I can see that, yeah.
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>>171576580
we don't. if anything, we need more greatswords
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>>171576240
Oh. It's 4am. I thought i had to get a slab. Goodnight.
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We need more everything.
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>>171576803
We need more good faith weapons that aren't great weapons. I'm tired of being slow. But the only other options are to infuse something or use one of the spears.

Unrelated, what's the best stat investment for dancer's enchanted blades? I'm thinking dex/int would be the most efficient.
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>>171577124
They're quality weapons. Both the str and dex scaling boost the magic and fire damage.
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is this dlc going to be a disappointment?
h-hold me /dsg/...
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>>171577124
Raw Dragonslayer's Axe is your fast Faith weapon. I believe Dancer's gets more benefit from Dex/Str than INT
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>>171577274
that's very subjective, anon-kun
*holds u*
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>>171576384
He grunts pretty roughly when he uses the heavy downward slam with the bigger sword.
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How long is Lothric in this state of anarchy/hollowness or ist it just a forgotten kingdom from the past which appeared because the fire is fading like the homes of the Lord of Cinder?
And are there more than 5 Lords of Cinder who linked the flame after Gwyn?
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>>171577543
I know it's a dumb question, but is thatm idnight of the 27th or the 28th?
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>>171577543
>inb4 banwave
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>>171577272
I find that a bit hard to believe. Why would str and dex scale with elemental damage.

>>171577336
Oh good point, I'd forgotten about that axe. Still some more options for fth would be nice.

That's kind of disappointing. Why bother with the fth/int scaling at all. Still the moveset looks fantastic.
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>>171565040
>>171566286
Enjoy watching people stand there and right as you go to hit them they roll once and clap. repeat over and over until you get sick of it.

Being passive counters the fuck out of great hammers.
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>>171559194
rolling cause bored
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>>171577543
please god let there be poison fixes.
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>>171575338
No, it's largely justified. There is some good stuff in there, but it's like digging for pearls through a mountain of shit.
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IM LV 25 WITH +2 WEAPONS AND UNLOCKED EVERYTHING UP TO EDGY WATCHERS

GIVE ME FUCKING SUMMONS FUCKING REEEEEEEE
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>>171560610
Why didn't he update at andre
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>>171560815
Id recommend going raw ass for caster builds until you have enough stats to ramp up to 50 int or whatever the cap is
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>>171573064
Sauce
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>>171578751
Isn't 25 really fucking low for Watchers? Im usually around there by the CRG I think.
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>>171561096
Yeah but with low int you get very little bonus damage from gear
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>>171577543
>midnight release on fucking tuesday
why
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>>171579019
Being a blueberry is fucking suffering, its like 7 ears left and then i can fuck off
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>>171577543
>>171557608
>[[It's happening]]
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>>171564674
My brother made it to catacombs without noticing that. I only noticed because i was watching him through share play
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>>171578985
Hope futa is your thing
http://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/2085787
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>>171578004
>Being passive counters (...)
you can say that just about anything
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WHY IS BLUE SENTINELS SO FUCKING DEAD AAAAHHHH 6K+ PLAYING AND JACK SHIT

FUCK YOU REEEEEEEEEE
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>>171579391
>futa
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>>171579782
How many of those people do you think also have the covenant equipped? How many do you think have WoB equipped?
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>>171579763
>you can say that just about anything
Not anything with a decent running attack. And with spells you can at least make them roll a bit. With great hammers they barely have to move. You can literally stand there and spam gestures and only have to roll once to avoid them.
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>>171580045
my point being the braindead niggerjaps that made this shit game didnt just figure out after 2 games that MAYBE they shouldve made a blue orb to allow you to invade sinners instead of this bullshit
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>>171578232
Why? Its functioning as intended.
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>>171559064

>Being retarded
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>487786 souls to heal the dark aids
whelp i need some more champion gundyr farming.
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>>171579837
You'd rather see a big burly dude instead of Dancer? That's pretty gay.
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>>171579837
Futa is the thinking man's fetish
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>>171579782
>equip way of blue and hide in undead settlement to help dorks
>invader appears
>keeps spamming VERY GOOD and clapping after he realizes i'm actually hiding
>dork appears
>eats shit and dies
>another dork appears
>eats shit and dies
Good job farming those ears guys.
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>>171580316
Whats the point in healing them though?
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>>171557608
>Poison applied by players now reduces Estus healing by 50%
This is awful. Never make a game.
>>171580254
Before I get into it with you are you that faggot who says invades are perfectly balanced in ds3? Look at the difference between the damage poison infusion does and the damage the story tellers staff does. The infusion needs to be more like that and I don't know where you're pulling working as intended out of your ass.
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>>171580508
Most people doing darkmoon summons are actually just completionist casuals who cant play.
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>>171573423
Neck yourself autist enabler
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>>171580636
Im fucking kidding you donut, theres so much irrelevantly broken shit in this game i no longer care.
The patch will likely tweak numbers of weapons by an irrelevant amount and be done with it, people are getting hyped up over nothing.
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>>171580556
to not look aids rotten
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>>171580508
>undead settlement
>where the only invaders you get are twinked to fuck monsters who are solely there to make someone's day miserable
If you wanted to help dorks, you'd set up shop somewhere less cancerous.
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>>171580636
>Doesn't provide a better suggestion
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>>171580847
I'm on NG+, sl 90 you silly willy. And i don't know any hiding spots for other areas.
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>>171580763
Oh, sorry for my autism. And I'm sure you're right but I want to believe.

I made a low level twink that just spams toxic mist and it almost scratches my itch, but most people even at low levels know that slow purple cloud = bad.
>>171580935
Hm? What do you mean?
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>>171580254

>3 HP per second

Should make player induced poison at least 10 per second
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What triggers hawkwood's sign to show up at the consumed king's garden?
I found my SL 35ish sorcerer with dancer beaten and I wanna grab the MLGS early but snapfreeze isn't dealing enough damage.
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>>171573931
technically 4
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>>171580497
I think you mean the insecure mans fetish
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>>171581284
That's reserved for traps
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>>171581248

Probably killing the Watchers at least

Bleed works on the old coot
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>>171578751
just do regular invasion lmao
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>>171581415
regular invasions are boring and fucking dead because: arena
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>>171581247
The story tellers staff's poison has scaling depending on the targets hp. All they have to do is make that work for poison weapons and the infusion and we're golden.
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>>171580497
this is who futa targets
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>>171581669
Paheal is trash
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Hey /dsg/

What was the hardest thing for you about Dancer progression?
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>>171581643

I did not know that (never even run in to the staff before), and it sounds good.
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>>171582092
just stay on the left leg in its ez
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>>171569909
The butcher knife is great how dare you
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are faith builds still a shitty joke?
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>>171558571
>[Embed]
yikes
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>>171582092
I used Exile CGS exclusivey with a 40/40 build on my first playthru so basically cheesing the game

is dancer supposed to be a hard boss?
what other bosses are """"hard"""" for people who intentionally gimp themsleves in pve by using bad weapons? honest question
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>>171582130
It would be in weapon form but its just another mist spell slapped on as a Wa.
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>>171563135
>then you punch god in the face
Calm down Hitoshura
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>>171569909
Exile CGS is basically cheating in terms of PVE DPS

please, upgrade all other weapons and tell me theyre anywhere near as good in terms of numbers, stamina per r1, or that the L2R2 isnt one of the only weapon arts that is more valuable than it's weapons R1 spam
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>>171576384

I have bad hearing so pontiff is hard as fuck for me, he definitely grunts though. I imagine its easier with headphones on
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Why is this game so fucking boring and one sided

>play straight sword or GS meta and be a boring piece of shit or play nothing because every type of magic is shit and most weapons are trash

Even Bloodborne looks 10 times longer compared to this fucking game
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why is Lorian so perfect senpais?
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>>171582603
Abyss Watchers, Dragonslayer armour, Sulyvann without parries, Champ Gundyr, Nameless King, Princes, SoC, Dancer. Would be the bosses which can be real combat challenges if you go in with low damage. Also both DLC fights.

If you go in with a really inappropriate weapon, then Deacons becomes hard.
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>>171583256
What did you expect from this piece of playable fanservice? Of course they wouldn't put effort into balancing the game.
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>>171575901
you time traveled to get to that entire DLC area, theres no reason he couldnt be linked to yharnam
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What kind of armor should I wear if I'm using bloodlust?
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>>171583308
his boyish good looks yet firm, manly build.
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>>171583479
yet here we have 7k+ people playing online mostly

irony
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>>171583308
because he showed the demon fucking shits their place
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>>171583308
Why did he fight the Demon Prince ?
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>>171582313
For pvp? Who cares?

For pve? Not at all
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>>171581380
I forgot I had a raw ass for going fast through the game.
Thanks for the tip anyway
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>>171577594

Prince lothric was the last person from that kingdom and he didnt link the flame. Gundyr was the champion who could have linked the flame in lothrics stead, but his firekeeper was killed. Somebody killed the cycle, but somehow some rando ash appeared and linked it.

As a result there is literally nobody left who can properly link the flame, which is why whatever unknown presence still orchestrating the cycle brought previous lords back to life, who them promptly fucked off. Said presence started bringing in the worst of the worst to link the flame, and all of them largely failed (this is why theres a billion dead firekeepers). The player character finally gets the job done but it barely works.

There is literally no society by the time DaS3 happens, the shrine is basically running like an autonomous entity in an attempt to link itself.
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>>171563931

Basically Miracles in this game are all magical representations of the stories within the given page/tome.

Light Miracles are basically like fairy tales, as evidenced by what the characters describe them as. They're hopeful and sugar-coated. They talk about all the good things.

Dark tomes are tales of the bad side of human nature. Depressing things, suicides, the ugly shit humanity is capable of. We make books and stuff like that all the time, like BERSERK, which is just heavy and depressing all the time. 48 Laws of Power and all of Robert Greene's books would be dark tomes.
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>lv80 +10 wep invading absolutely dead in pontiff

Did the DLC shit really push people to go up to like 120 or some fucking shit?
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>>171583847
I dunno

just prince things
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>>171583847
God From simply cant fucking model.
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>>171583308
https://youtu.be/0TX2ec7DmIw?t=2m31s
>2:31
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>>171581597
>regular invasions are boring and fucking dead because: arena

not at SL30 ya dunce, they're near instantanious in cathedral of dankness, crab woods, poison goat swamp and spooky skeletons wild catacombs.
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>>171575338
>got shit response in his thread except for some drones
>comes to /dsg/ and expects something different.
DS2 is garbage
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>>171583158
Exile is good but there's plenty of competition.
Heavy Great Club picked up right next to Exile is similarly brutal but comes online faster, so you get to stack VIG early and also be unkillable.
Raw ASS has more than enough damage carry you through most of the game so these builds also get to stack VIG super early.
Pyromancy is strong from the mid game onwards and they can use ASS to get there.
Late and NG+ Sharp Sellsword Twinblades with a buff on have probably the highest DPS output in the game.
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>>171584664
sl50 is active too at the later parts

go +5, or +10 to catch slab memers
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so, how long will /dsg/ last after the final DLC is released?
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>>171581597
>regular invasions
>dead
No.
And get to level 30 or 35 instead, and +3.
That seemed to be a sweetspot for swamp when it came to watchdogs atleast, I could barely have the covenant equiped.
Kinda lika SL60 aldrich.
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anyone have a different/updated version of this?

if not, just roll
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>>171583590
cloth/rags/dark leather, go full mad hollow.
>>171584861
>thinking dsg will ever truelly die
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>>171558571
Whats the cap of int/fth in ds2 and ds3?
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>the only reason invading can be good is if you play meta

honestly, this fucking game is awful
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>>171584401
Actually surprised they modeled his face underneath the helm.
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>>171584861

How long did Bloodborne last? Shit, how long has Life is Strange and Undertale gone?

>>171585037

> boyish good looks
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>>171584916
See
>>171559194
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>>171585007
The big issue is infusions not changing reqs for weapons. Its the thing that couldve prevented a true meta by allowing every build viability but we get stuck with infusions only being good when you match them up. Plus Froms balancing makes most weapons bad despite reqs, like smoughs and mournes getting shit ass scaling even though they req 50 fucking str yet chaos blade gets S scaling with barely any dex needed.
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>>171585037
AYY LMAO
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>>171585081
fair, but at the same time activity always takes a massive nose dive soon after everyone beats the DLC.
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>>171583983
I'm not sure it's clear at what point in time the events of Champion Gundyr's failure took place. That's quite a leap to assume he and prince lothric shared that point in the cycle.


But as I read the rest of your post, what you said does make narrative sense and fits nicely.
Hmm I think you won me over.
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>>171582313
>>171583921
Sharp carthusCS with lightningblade and sacred oath literally melts PvP tryhard faggots.
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>>171582603
The only boss I struggled with on my first playthrough was nameless king.
Jeez, I was so fucking mad.
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>>171585458
Everything melts if the opponent gives you 10 hours to buff.
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playing ds2 here. Is the blue clearstone ring worth it
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HEY GUYS WHY DO YOU EVEN STILL PLAY CREATIVE BUILDS JUST USE ULTRA GS'S AND WIN THE GAME LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>171585717
I mean the 2+ version of that ring. I'd have to burn an ascetic for it
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If the unused "Soul of the Great Bat" which has been in the game files since release is now being remade for TRC, does that mean the only other unused boss soul will be too?

>Soul of a Wicked Spirit
>"Soul of a malevolent god that possessed a heroic king. Use to acquire a huge amount of souls, or to make an offering at the training kiln…"

Any thoughts?
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Finally can go full on homo. I just wish the soldering iron were a better weapon. It looks so cool but it's so useless.
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>>171584198
What?
>>171585007
Invasions are fun if you run quality desu.
I wanna git gud like that pyro that wrecked face when the game was released though.
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Against fire resistant enemies like say the Demon Prince pyros have the onyx blade, any dark infused weapon or dark pyros to use.

What are mages supposed to use against magic resistant enemies? Does from just hate mages?

I mean even faith builds have dark/lightning/magic/blessed weapon buffs and generic buffs like sacred oath and deep protection as well as bleed with Dorhys Gnawing so they have a lot of options at their disposal as well.

I'm foolishly hoping for something like the onyx blade but for sorcerers in The Ringed City. Take any decent weapon class, slap on A/S int scaling and give it physical/lighting/dark/fire weapon damage and we'll be set. Though considering the Demons Scar I think I'll just boot up my pyro build instead.
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>>171585824
Was good but Nerf
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give me your most cancerous fucking build, I dont even wanna have fun anymore with invading
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>>171585745
>have great hammer
>fight guy with UGS
>100% of our fight is us smacking our weapons on the ground while far away from each other
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>>171585916
oh fug.
Thanks. I nearly did it
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>>171585648
>invade
>find host
>stand behind a corner and take 6s to buff up
>attack
It's like you don't understand that 90% of hosts and phantoms are absolutely retarded.
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>>171585007
just fuck them up with great arrows
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>>171585937
>Invade someone
>Pull of CCS
>Put Carthas Rogue on it
>Point down
>Black Crystal out
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>>171584985
Plz send help
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>>171586083
You could just google it.
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>>171579391
niceu

>>171580497
this, only knuckle-draggers and cucks prefer seeing men over futa
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>>171585916
hey any idea where I should burn the ascetic instead?
I'm a sorcerer
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>>171586083
Priscilla has the best modelled feet in videogames.
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>>171585876
Just git gud

How did you magic characters get through ds2 dlc
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>>171584198
>expecting crippled inbreds to look normal
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>>171585824
You only have to kill the Skeleton Lords again for it, and Ascetics are very plentiful once you get into the late game. Go for it.
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>>171586251
If you've not killed any bosses yet and still have one ascetic, I suggest killing the dragon rider, using the ascetic and then killing him again, you can just make him walk off the ledge. Easy 60k souls before even starting to play the game. If you've already killed him just do whatever.
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>>171586297
Oh I can do it no problem, it was just tedious. The crystal sage in the grand archives or whatever it's called was just me stunlocking him with 50 straight sword r1s.

Whereas other magic schools have options Sorcery just seems to have different versions of the same thing. There's like 4 soul arrows.
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>>171585937
Astoria spear low levels
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>>171586405
I already have the regular version of the ring. Do they stack?

>>171586432
well I've already killed him and I'm level 80 so I don't need souls that much. I'm still in the early game though
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Why is every form of magic so fucking shit unless you're 120

its almost like they intended to turn this into; 1 weapon class the game
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>>171585828
Probably an early version of the Pontiff soul, who was initially designed as the Boreal/Frigid Valley king. I assume his "stand" was originally designed as a spirit controlling him (that's why the "stand" does the action first and he mimics it afterwards).
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>>171584985
>>171586083
DaS2: 50 of either for either Sorceries or Miracles, 60 total for Pyromancy, 30 apiece for Hexes.
DaS3: 60 of either.

>>171586550
You can only wear one version of each ring, so no stacking the +0 with the +2 or whatever. Same applies to the Dragon Rings.
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>>171573193
Laughed.
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>>171585083
thanks
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>>171585949
>mfw GS and UGS faggots think a buffed Dragon Tooth won't break their HA and also out trade them
>they're wrong every time
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>>171586626
Because even an eyeless chimp doped on three different kinds of drugs could roll through any spell in the game while eating chips.

Projectiles are too slow and i-frames are too long.
Why someone can roll through a fucking magical fireball explosion is beyond me but hey.
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>>171586795
okay. I suppose I already have 20% less cast time. Would the 55% really make a difference?
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>>171559194
roll
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>>171585037
He looks kinda old.
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>>171584916
lole
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KEKulus is a FUCKING IDIOT
Thank god I'm through with with and I can drop my onyx to embrace the true meta. Btw, any other bosses I need to summon for to get equipment? Also, Siegy got dunked. Did I miss anything important?
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>>171586432
Why there and not go for moonlight greatsword or crystal soul spear
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>>171587048
I don't know of any hard cap on casting speed in DaS2, the problem is that it isn't well-documented. It should make a noticeable difference, my 32 ATT 50 INT sorcerer character took noticeably longer casting with Clear Bluestone +2 than without it.

Again, since you only have to re-fight one of the easiest "bosses" in the game for it, you may as well go for it.
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>>171586626
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZP7LVUfnN0
Not sure how it's looking right now but this dude did pretty well on release with a pyro build.
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>>171587321
rip greirat and yeah most bosses have a summon that gives u shit, usually an emote though, also fuck u cuckulus is god teir
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>>171586795
>>171586795
Thank you Magic Man. This is for you. Everyone else dont look
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So fired great arrows just disappear after a certain distance ?
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>>171587321
You missed a Siegbrau and some heartwarming dialogue, that's pretty much it.

>>171587465
Depending on how you want to play, the Dragonrider weapons by themselves are pretty good, especially on a sorcerer. The twinblade in particular is supposed to be stupidly good if you can handle it.

Major League Great Sword is still GOAT though, especially once you hit 50 Int and Faintstone it. Combine with Repair sorcery and Bracing Knuckle, and you have in-field reloads for the beam spam. It's even viable with Magic Stone, which neuters the beams but gives you a scaling physical damage weapon on a mage, and physical damage is still the most reliable way to kill shit, especially in the DLCs.

I'd say go for all of them. You'll eventually have more Ascetics than you need, so you may as well get them all.
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how the fuck do i kill those fucking BLACKEDâ„¢ hollow mutants?!
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having more trouble with the shitty zones themselves than the bosses in DaS2 so far
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>>171587993
DaS3 isnt much different
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>>171587992
fire
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>>171585389

Lothric has his name on his throne, so they had to have existed before the age of dark.
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Anyone got a secret shame?

I've beaten das3 3 times and I've never beaten pontiff sulyvahn. Thr first time he bugged out and never attacked me, and every other time I've summoned
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Guys I found the purpose of this WA, Memeazaki's balancing team was right all along!
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>>171559194
I will use this build in my first ringed city run.
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>>171588363
i still play this game's pvp
and im not using meta builds

i honestly wanna kill myself
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>>171588142
Well fuck. You're right.
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>>171587674
>rip greirat
why? he was back from irithyll. hasn't asked to go again
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>>171588816
oh, i assumed you where doing it in order, nvm then.
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>>171588142
It's just as plausible that the names on the thrones are due to time constraints and laziness on the part of From. Ludleth himself said that he became a Lord of Cinder in this Age of Dark, yet somehow he already has a throne and name before he revived the Age of Fire.

>>171588363
I have:
Only ever beaten Capra Demon by tossing Dung Pies over the wall.
Took six tries to beat Ornstein and Smough, and only by going into Catacombs for a fire weapon, summoning Solaire and chunking down Super Ornstein with fireballs at the start of his phase.
Cheesed Artorias with a greatshield, and killed Manus from outside his boss fog with arrows.
Fought Gwyn using Black Iron Greatshield and a shitload of fire resist.
Never beaten Red Smelter or Lost Sinner solo because I always brought in Lucatiel for her questline.
Always fought Elana and Sinh with summons.
Beat 2cat by using summons to distract them.
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>>171588380
>It was for style points
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>farewell gift from granddaughter
>possible final farewell
>sells it for 10 soulbux
Why is Sirris so shit?
Also, I was doing the LoH questline and I remembered that anon who had first done it and posted here and how everyone called bullshit
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post some fucking pics fampais don't be shy
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>>171588363
I want to have consensual sex with the fair ladythe spider part and egg laying only makes it better
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>>171571939
>yfw you will never be hugged by bone daddy, Nito
*sigh*
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>>171588908

That doesnt really make sense though when everything else is presented as time accurate, the thrones are the only thing people cant line up.

When the only answers people can give are "time is convoluted" or "from didnt care", either people are wrong about the timeline or from legitimately didnt give a shit.
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>>171561090
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>>171588363
I've never triggered patches in the cathedral of the deep on any if the 5 or characters that I've played up to there
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>>171588363
I have
the fucking 4Kings is just too much for me so I only ever completed DaS1 by abusing the Boss & Firekeeper soulduping.
that way I could max out Quelaag's sword.
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is this thing good for a pyro build

any weapon to pair with it?
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>>171589506
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>>171589860
Very good for PvP. Meh for PvE. How about you pair a flame with it?
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>>171589506
can i post moving pictures
too late
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>>171589657
Remove the thrones and everything ends up working nicely if we assume we're seeing Ludleths age.

My headcanon is from just ran out of time/were too lazy/just didn't care about the lore implications so forgot to remove the names from the thrones. Without the names and some minor changes you could argue the thrones are generic. Or even better if you remove the thrones entirely.
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>>171588363

I have never been able to find rosaria, on multiple play throughs and after hours of searching
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>>171589506
does this qualify?
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>>171586291
i would worship Pricsilla's feet forever
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>>171588380
Have to get myself a CSGS.
How's the AR at 30/30?
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>>171590195
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>>171590015

Having to pretend something doesnt exost doesnt work for me, especially considering that ludleth isnt the one in the kiln. There has to be more to it by that virtue alone, since you need lord souls to even get in there, and ludleth is one of them.
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>>171590015
Changing the text inscriptions on the thrones is trivial. If their intention was for Dark Firelink to be a time before any of the Lords linked the fire, they'd just remove the inscriptions. They clearly weren't intending that.
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>>171587705
Anyone ?
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>>171590260
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Took me so many tries my flame almost broke, huh. I kinda miss the glitch. Also apparently the iron doesn't block estus healing for npcs, such a waste.
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>>171590440
you're naughty
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GUYS
I
JUST
FUCKING ACCIDENTALLY GRANNY!
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>>171590542
You are going to get jewed you Onion
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>>171590350
Miyazaki clearly didn't put that much effort into things lore wise for Dark Souls 3 so I don't see the point in trying to find a deeper meaning with the way things are. It's easier to acknowledge the short development cycle leading to oversights like this then to try and find some explanation that accounts for everything.

That and you don't neccasarily need lord souls to access the kiln. When we go there in DS3 we're time travelling. The ceremony with the lords probably is part of that
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>>171590639
;_;
FKN MISCLICK
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>>171590496
you're so fucking ripped kek
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>>171590327
80AR behind a Sharp Exile at 20/40. Because it's bad.
I miss the days when Murakumo was a good weapon.
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>>171590440

What did you do to those toenails?
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>>171590542
have fun with upped prices and snarky remarks
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>>171590542
You'll pay the price
and by that I mean you'll pay 20% extra for her goods when she respawns
Meanwhile
>testing my new onyx
>do a running attack
>hawkwood 4 meters away gets hit
>chases me like i killed his mother, have to go to gundy's bonny to get pardons
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>>171590718
desu you can't have serious BDSM if you don't look ripped
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>>171590420
But then what were they intending? It's clearly in the past, dark has settled or at least nearly has and if we assume the thrones are there deliberately then how does that make any sense timeline wise with the lords awakening and stuff?
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Is Ornstein's set upgradable ? DaS1
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>>171590735
fume knight might have sick hitboxes but his AI is worse than a fucking potato
>tfw you can also do this to champ gundyr
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>>171590738
She doesn't have toenails like that though.
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>>171590763
>>171590784
I_IT'S_OKAY
i can tell her i didn't mean to ._.
already sent poor Greirat to his death.
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>>171590936
wish i was under her like that.
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>>171590496
It doesn't block Estus healing at all. It just reduces it by a negligible amount.
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>>171590831
What if this?
>>171559101

The Lords were all burned or scheduled to be burned previously, hence there are thrones for them. We're trying to burn them again, but they're kinda fucked up now which is why we're going to throw 5 of them in at once. Because we've run out of fuel, so we're just scraping the ashes back up and hoping they burn.
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>>171590718
>>171590792
Don't you like big burly ripped men?
>>171591075
I'll stop reading item descriptions then.
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>>171590936
tfw she'll never use you as her living dildo
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>>171590735
Check the speed of these CGS swings compared to the DS3 version. Isn't DS2 supposed to be super slow?
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>>171591068
fuck off faggot
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>>171590936

I know, but they look really good on the art. Makes me want to clean them and paint them.
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>>171590735
Welp, that sucks. Getting tired of GS and UGS.
And I can't git gud with valorheart either.
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>>171591462
>fuck off faggot
i cant be a faggot for loving Priscilla
odd you only point me out.
>>171591315
>>171591491
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>>171591573
do you have at least 40 end with fap+2?
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>>171591671
I can spot a faggot from a mile away.
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>>171591749
Takes one to know one.
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>>171591573
You can clear the game with it just fine, it's just objectively worse than Exile CGS, like everything else in the weapon class.
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so whats the current state of the game/pvp like on PC? i stopped playing shortly before the release of the first dlc. are straight swords/dex weapons still king in pvp? is it still hosts endlessly summoning phantoms? covenants broken?
any good balance changes? is the first dlc fun?
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A simple explanation is that gundyrs firekeeper was the one on the roof, explaining why both her and gundyr are touched by the abyss (they both existed during that age of dark.

Therefore the fire keeper eyes are from an age before the one we appeared in, but these eyes being the first firekeepers eyes then implies ludleth was not only around for the first firekeeper, but might even be the first throne put into the room. This is assuming that yhorm had a firekeeper, he might predate their use at that shrine
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>>171586291
>>171590440
>>171590936
>>171591068
I love waking up to sexy soul feet
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>>171588363
some:
took me about 40 tries to beat the nameless king on my first playthrough
when I get invaded when going PvE, I usually hide and wait for the guy to bc out
I beat ds3 first 2handing the refined dark sword for 80% of the game
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>>171591719
>>171591890
My saves got wiped so i'm still on NG.
Mainly trying to figure out what I want to use during invasions.
I already have gotthard and a claymore +10 for bosses.
I just feel like I need more end to use valorheart effectively in PvP.
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>>171559080
name self artorias
use havel shield and rapier
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>>171592002
>are straight swords/dex weapons still king in pvp?
still strong but UGS meta is here and its shit
>is it still hosts endlessly summoning phantoms? covenants broken?
yes and yes
>any good balance changes? is the first dlc fun?
barely and no its short and boring dont bother
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>>171592182
ah man. oh well, guess ill come back after the 2nd dlc is out for a while. thank you.
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>>171588363
I've never died to Lost Sinner because I always cheesed with a shield and I've never died to Nito because I cheesed with Havel/Smough armor
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>can still abuse bloodlust WA
>tumble buff still in

How many more patches before they finally give up?
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Pyro or FTH build? which one is the least shit?
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>>171588363
Despite having at least 800 hours in ds1 I still can't perform the duke skip
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>>171592832
Pyro is one of the strongest builds in the game and miracles suck.
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>>171592832
Pyro
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>>171592832
Both are super good in DaS1, but FAI is better.
FAI got nerfed into the ground in DaS2, but Pyromancy was never that good to begin with since a bunch of shit resists it.
FAI is a fucking joke in DaS3 unless you have 60 FAI, Pyro is the only viable casting build.
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>>171592832
Strength
Pryo
Bleed builds
Dex.
strongest metas.
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>>171592182
>UGS meta
this was never a thing, save for one fucking weapon out of the entire class which got nerfed into oblivion
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>>171593005
miracles in DS3 hardly "suck" when you can cast them without being interrupted
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>>171593127
Your webm convinced me, wow!
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>>171593204
They hit as hard as a pillow though
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Is there a save editor out there for DaS1 on PC ? I accenditally killed Eingyi and want to reverse that. I suppose it's possible with CE, but I don't know how to do it.
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>>171584916
rolling
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>>171592832
Faith is a healing support stat, it's not designed to compete as a ranged damage caster.
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>>171593127
You could say there was 2, AGS was incredible but now it isn't that great. Unless you were talking about it and not about FUGS
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>>171593435
>Faith is a healing support stat
Then why does it have all of these direct-damage offensive projectile spells?
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>>171584916
Benis. :DDD
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>>171558571
What are the best wands for sorcery in ds3
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>>171593510

Because they very very hard nerfed healing after des, so they expanded its usefulness.
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>>171593510
It has fewer than the other trees, and they're worse than the other trees, because it has healing and the other trees don't. Surely I don't need to convince you that Faith isn't a good choice for dealing direct damage with offensive projectiles?
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>>171593727
>because it has healing and the other trees don't.
Pyro has healing
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Will we ever have a ps4 FC?
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>>171588908
Your sins are too many and too great. They cannot be forgiven in this lifetime.
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>>171593848
Casting healing miracles as a pyro is way better than warmth
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>>171593848

Pyro is for faggots
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>>171594045
I agree.
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>>171593848
Warmth requires 25 FTH and no INT. I don't know why people assume that FTH having bad damage nukes is some kind of accident. It's like a dedicated Sorc complaining that their healing options are poor.
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>>171593510
Now they bizarrely do most of their damage in melee. With unfaltering prayer you're basically supposed to trade point blank miracles and then heal the damage you take like a cheeky cunt. It actually works pretty well, to the point of making people ragequit.
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>>171594045
It's also for melee damage spells
Ranged damage spells
Melee DPS
Ranged DPS
Crowd control
Buffs
Status effects
Support
And healing

And it does all of these better than everything else
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>>171590920
No
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>>171591154
The lords were burned at different times. It's the fire that ressurected them and set them all to be burned again at the same time but they left hence their homes converge at lothric castle.

They've only been burned once each and those were at different times. They were brought back and that was when the thrones were propped up so they could be burned a second time together with the exception of maybe Lothric.

This doesn't really fit with the idea that dark firelink takes place after the lords are brought back. It has to be before hence why I think the thrones were an oversight.

Basically:

Dark Firelink stuff happens

Some unknown amount of time later

Lords of cinder are ressurected
They reject their duties
Unkindled are ressurected

It doesn't really make sense to move the dark firelink stuff after the lords are ressurected.
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i feel so bad
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>mfw watching someone hit ornstein on ng+0 with a claymore for literally 52 damage
>whilst turtling with a non 100% physical shield
Why the fuck didn't you upgrade your weapon reeeeeeeeeeee
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>>171594430
don't
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>>171594213
>Carthus Beacon, Warmth, Power Within and Flame Arc
>Better than Med Heal, Tears of Denial, DMB, Deep Protection or Sacred Oath
OK whatever you say.
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Are halberds/polearms as good in 3 as they were in 2?
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Do we know how to access the DLC zone on the 27th yet? Where to go or who to talk to?
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>>171594784
No.
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>>171594553
isn't the cathedral knight gs absolute garbage?
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>>171594747
They're different.
In 2 they hit as hard as ultras if you land the sweetspot but the sweetspot is a big thing to play around
In 3 the sweetspot is almost irrelevant and they're faster but don't generally hit as hard.
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>>171594826
yes
but its r1 combos to the r2 thrust which is fucking useless and it'll probably be patched out anyway
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>>171594747
Lobro is really bad at bloodborne, I can't even bring myself to watch. Ds1 and 2 were slower so it wasn't as bad but christ it's infuriating watching him play.

>hit by an attack
>dodge literally 4 times when he was in the clear after the first
>wait a few seconds then pop a blood vial
>get hit in the process
>GIVE ME A BREAK
>mashes dodge till out of stamina
>dies
>GAHLEE :^)
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>>171594253

The lords of cinder fucking off is what caused the age of dark; they were the failsafe and they refused to commit.
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>>171594826
Yes.
That also didn't actually combo, the idiot being hit mashed R1 and got hit by a thrust counter on the R2. He could have rolled out there.

They patched the R1R2 combo as far as I know. It's ded.
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>>171593310
Pls respond
I don't want to do another playthrough for just one achievement
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>>171594253
What's this "Dark Firelink stuff happens" thing supposed to mean? You're assuming the thrones are built after the Lords are resurrected, but why would that be the case?
We already burned or planned to burn them, so we already have thrones for them. The thrones even look like they've already been used.

The thrones don't have to be dated after the resurrection, and they don't have to have been built at the same time as Gundyr/Firekeeper/Ludleth lore, so dating any of that lore based on the thrones doesn't make sense.
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>>171595036
That webm was from when the combo still worked.
Speaking of meme combos...
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>>171595246
Do the dranghammers still have an infinite by spamming L1?
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>>171595024
That's a plausible idea now that I think about it.
See I always thought of it this way:

Gundyr is too late so Ludleth links instead at the last possible second after seeing dark descend
Gundyr arrives gets BTFO by us because time is convoluted then becomes a fleshlight for a coiled sword
The bell rings and the lords wake up and fuck off
A second bell rings and we unkindled rise, this bell possibly rung by the dead firekeeper whos soul we find at the top of the tower outside firelink
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>>171594932

Does it really? In your webm at least the axe guy is just spamming R1 and trying to trade.
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Can someone test out some armor combinaison for me? I don't have my pc to see myself
>silver mask and vinheim set
>silver mask and Mirah set
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>>171595246
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>>171595246
>2017
>still playing pvp
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>>171595654
what is this "spamming r1 and trying to trade meme"
the stagger is time was just that long
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>>171584861
nigga /ksg/ is still here too
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>>171596081
kill self general?
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>>171596195
Katawa Shoujo lad
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>>171595907
>has a shield
>is being pelted with throwing knives
>doesn't use it
???
>>
What video game most accurately simulates the sensation of gitting gud but without the challenge?
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>>171596195
Kripple sex generator
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>>171595171
Y'know that's actually completely right. My only problem with it is that from the intro the lords rise when the bell tolls which always seemed to be some supernatural/spontaneous force which I always thought meant the thrones themselves were also spontaneous and so appeared at the same time as when the lords were resurrected.

Cause otherwise the thrones would be there for no reason and it would make more sense to assume there would instead vlbe a throne there for the current champion. Basically, in dark firelink why would the lords thrones be there if it wasn't their time? Shouldn't there instead be a throne for Gundyr since he was the champion who was supposed to link the fire?
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>>171596384

same thing
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>>171596534
tetris
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>>171596534
dark souls 3
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>>171596534
Not even memeing, the first half of ds3. But barring ds any bethesda game sans cheats
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>>171596595

the thrones, and the shrine itself, are built by the lothric kingdom, which is implied to be based around the fire linking cycle and very, very old. when lothric collapsed, the shrine was no longer updated, which is why other champions such as gundyr and the soul of cinder's vessel do not have a throne.
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>>171559194
brap
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>>171595171
There's just one little problem there: Ludleth.

Ludleth says that he became a Lord of Cinder, presumably in Gundyr's place, once an Age of Dark had settled in. If he had become a Lord of Cinder prior to the player's arrival, then Untended Graves would not be in an Age of Dark. So, assuming that Ludleth became a Lord of Cinder after the player visits Dark Firelink, why should he already have a throne? The only way that would work is if he announced his intentions, and they commissioned the throne for him before his burning.

Then there's also Lothric's throne. Presumably, if Gundyr was meant to become the next Lord of Cinder, why should Lothric have a throne? It's implied that he never became a Lord of Cinder, and that he was maybe meant to be the very next one after Ludleth.
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>>171597313
I see. So how do you reckon Gundyr and SoCs vessel were supposed to access the kiln? When we do it we warp there after gaining the strength(?) from the lords of cinders ashes.

Maybe since Gundyr was strong enough to link the fire on his own he'd be able to warp straight to the kiln rather than go through the ceremony?
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>>171596595
>Once, a champion came late to the festivities, and was greeted by a shrine without fire, and a bell that would not toll.
I think you're assuming too much about Gundyr's role.

My interpretation of the whole Lords and thrones deal is that instead of the God's old lie about a prophecy of the Chosen Undead, the process of throwing people into the fire has now become a human tradition with pomp and ceremony about it. Nobody questions it, and they consider it an honour to become a Lord, so thrones are made for them and they're then gloriously burned alive.

Gundyr's Soul description makes it sound like when he showed up, there wasn't anybody around to make him a throne.
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>>171595450

>Gundyr is too late so Ludleth links instead at the last possible second after seeing dark descend

this isn't possible, because he isn't the lord of cinder inside of the kiln; the lord of cinder we fight in the kiln is the one who linked the fire before the player character.

and no the physical body isn't a creation of the flame, that wasn't the case for gwyn, and we are shown multiple scenes of the man who became the lord in the kiln fucking around in the age of dark. This gives us a pretty clear picture that he was the one who linked the flame in Gundyr's stead.
>>
Listen boys just say lore is convoluted and save yourself the headache. That's what Memezaki did :^)
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>>171597676
I'd just assume the thrones are asset reuse.
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>>171597820

gundyr's bonfire was smashed, and his firekeeper was stuck on the roof, probably dead.

SoC is a mystery, we really have no idea what happened there other than the fact he's shown dragging corpses around. It's possible he was the chosen undead from DaS1 came back as a lord of cinder, and he chose to burn himself again. there's really no real answer.
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>>171597907
>a bell that would not toll
Is this the lords of cinders bell or the unkindleds one? And what is so significant about the bell not tolling that they felt the need to mention it specifically?
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>>171595673
please I need to see if it fits what I have in mind
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>>171597936
>and we are shown multiple scenes of the man who became the lord in the kiln fucking around in the age of dark
how did he link the flame if the age of dark had already befallen the world
i thought linking the flame worked in the sense that you can only stoke the fire, not reignite it
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>>171597936
There's no rhyme or reason behind who defends the Kiln though. You only fight Gwyn in DaS1 because the Chosen Undead is only the second person to reach the Kiln. You don't face anyone at all in DaS2, just two elite Drangleic warriors, the usurping queen and a random-ass burning tree stump. And, despite already defeating Gwyn in DaS1, you fight him again in DaS3.

The Soul of Cinder isn't any individual being, it's the amalgamation of all beings who Linked the Fire. Theoretically, one would assume that it could also assume the powers of the Abyss Watchers, Aldrich and Yhorm if it wanted, but it does not due to gameplay reasons (Miyazaki decided that just giving it various player powers and then Gwyn would be enough).
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>patch notes in 11.5 hours
>mfw greatswords get another buff
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>>171597820
Firelink is next to the Kiln and the Kiln is accessed by pouring power into the Lordvessel. The bonfire in Firelink is sat in a Lordvessel so technically the process of getting to the Kiln in DS3 is identical to DS1.
There's nothing to suggest Gundyr did access the Kiln, and he's referred to as a Champion rather than a Lord so I'm not sure it's even confirmed that he would link the fire himself. It's possible that he was supposed to round up Lords in the same way we're expected to, after being summoned by a bell which didn't toll, so he was late.
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the patch will make this the new sorcerer meta

BELIEVE
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>>171598331
>throne of want is the kiln

U wot m8? There isn't even a bonfire in there.
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>>171598331

the SOUL is an amalgamation, the BODY is not. when you link the flame, it consumes your soul and usurps your body. usurpation of fire ending is the reverse, you overpower the first flame and amalgamate it into YOUR soul.

>>171598276

"the flame fades in quiet"

seriously though the firekeeper implies that the flame dying doesn't kill the lord souls, they just fuck around until somebody picks them up again or something.
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>>171598440
But the lords in dark firelink are OUR lords going by the thrones. Are you saying he was supposed to round up Abyss Watchers, Yhorm et al?
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Holy Fuck, Blackflame Friede keeps pushing my shit in.

I fucking love it
>>
Why is it called the 'Barker bomb bait'? Why Barker?
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>>171565154
>The only thing that every new player absolutely must know going into dark souls is that Resistance is a useless stat and should never be leveled under any circumstance.
But it gives so much defense and poison resist!
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>>171598520
I want to believe.
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>>171598174
It's not specified, and I don't think Gundyr's role is described in much detail either, so we're not sure if he's supposed to be a Lord or Lordseeker, or something else.

The bell not tolling suggests whoever would normally ring the bell is missing. Maybe that's the Firekeeper, but in DS1 the bell is rung by the CU to summon the serpent and open the way to Anor Londo, so the whole bells thing is pretty vague.
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>>171598540
We already know that a bunch of people, including a goddess or two, have survived at least one Age of Dark. We thus know it doesn't wipe out all life on earth or whatever. The First Flame stops producing anything new and no further souls are birthed until the end of the Age of Dark when a new one sprouts up. Theoretically if you don't die and are conservative with your bullshit powers you'll be fine. Probably how all these cultures like Catarina keep surviving.
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>>171598606
>Are you saying he was supposed to round up Abyss Watchers, Yhorm et al?

not him but yet; when the guy in the kiln linked the flame he didn't need the lord souls, so he was probably a lord of cinder himself and could just get in freely like Gwyn could in DaS1.

it's also possible that the 5 lords of cinders the thrones are made for just resurrect every time the flame fades, regardless of how many times they burn to ash, which is why they grew weary of their thrones and fucked off in the end. they already burned like 20-50 times possibly, why fucking bother anymore? just let the world end and try for an age of the deep sea.
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>>171598787
>Probably how all these cultures like Catarina keep surviving.

I'm pretty sure that the lordran area is something particularly special and unique, and experiences things differently than the outside world.
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>>171598174

The bell tolling is what resurrects all the Lords and Unkindled. It's basically a giant chime that casts a miracle. Without it you get what happened in Dark Firelink, where no one woke up.

Gundyr apparently was given a specific purpose to at the very least act as a judge and weed out any Unkindled with shit potential, which is evidenced by his title Iudex and the armor and weapon given to him that would specifically last a long time as he would be there for quite some time until one came along.

He's literally a scrub-stomper. Who sent him and his exact actions once he arrived are not gone into.
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>>171598537
To the left is the structure housing the Throne of Want. To the right is a pottery kiln.

It's stupid because of how DaS2 fucks with the "lore," but it is elaborated that he who succeeds to the Throne of Want will Link the Fire.
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>>171598798
I'm not sure man. In the intro we see Soul of Cinder dude kneeling before a bonfire with some ashes or particles being dripped on his head that look VERY much like the ceremony we go through so I think he himself isn't a lord of cinder. That or the ceremony still needs to be done either way.

Although that would tie in nicely with your idea that the lords of cinder are continuously revived.
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>>171598606
Maybe he was, but there was nobody to direct him to them once they'd fled. Maybe they fucked everything up on their way out. Maybe Ludleth arrived after that point and "Willed himself Lord" creating his own little pocket Light Firelink world from where he sends back Ash in an attempt to fix that fuckup.

You can only work with the pieces you've got, and we don't have enough pieces to be sure of the full picture.
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>>171598657
Its from a youtuber called adambarker
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>>171599189

DaS2 lore would have been 100x better if it never even touched on the topic of linking the fire. just explore the concept of man and then have that bitch nashandra try to steal your soul.
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>>171598331

The Soul of the person who linked it and whatever souls they had are added to the First Flame. Then the First Flame uses the last body to be thrown in as a host.
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Man I would've loved to have this whole dark firelink/gundyr/fire linking culture stuff get more attention and lore. I'd gladly sacrifice the crystal sages and grand archives, profaned flame and deep lore for it.
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>>171599189
I always thought that the throne of want was just a giant furnace and that the bearer of the curse is probably getting roasted inside
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>>171598540
>seriously though the firekeeper implies that the flame dying doesn't kill the lord souls, they just fuck around until somebody picks them up again or something.
I thought the flame dying literally means the end of the world. Even the Age of Dark needs the flame alive (abit in a weaken state) in order to exist.
Thats why you usurp the fire in Londor's ending, not put it out.
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>>171598787
>We already know that a bunch of people, including a goddess or two, have survived at least one Age of Dark.
Where is it confirmed that we've even had an Age of Dark, or what that even means?
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>>171597936
>the lord of cinder we fight in the kiln is the one who linked the fire before the player character.
no, it's not. SoC never linked the Fire. SoC IS the Fire
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>>171599484

No the Age of Dark is when the flame dies. The lore is that the Fire will die ever since Dark Souls 1. Three thing is even if it does, it comes back one day, so it never stays dead.
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pyromancy is for sand niggers
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>>171599484

the world existed before the flame, the world will exist after the flame

the world is crumbling at the "end of time" because the archtree that help everything up died and started to crumble.

>>171599564

I said lord of cinder, not soul of cinder. a physical person came in and linked the fire and that is his body.
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>>171599680
>>171599680
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>>171599484
It does. But it's never TRULY gone out. Even in dark firelink it's there just barely, and I mean BARELY hanging on. Then whoever came along and linked it.

And we know this because in the end of fire ending, it's implied a new age of fire will arise after an age of dark on its own. When the flame comes back after dark firelink it's certainly not what I'd call a new age of fire, which makes me think it was linked instead.
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>>171599626
git gud
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>>171599564

No, the entity ruling the body of SoC is the SoC. The body itself, armor and all, is what's left from the last person to Link the Fire after he destroyed the previous SoC. It was clearly a special Lothric knight based off the armor he wears and the Lothric banners and weapons everywhere in the stump.
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Why didn't anyone tell me you get instant invasions at sl 30 in ds3?
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>>171599629
what lord of cinder are you referring to? you're making no sense
>>171599919
>based off the armor he wears
what? pics
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>>171600120

the guy from the promotional material who linked the fire before us, we have no idea who he is, all we know is what his charred corpse looks like.
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>>171599919
>>171600120
>>171600249
The armour the Soul of Cinder is wearing is the Elite Knight Set, not some Lothric Knight Set.
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>>171566742
It will be the Lord of the Ring
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>>171561090
The Dark Soul itself or a manifestation of it at least.
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>>171580847
>monsters who are solely there to make someone's day miserable
That sounds like a good invader to me.
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>>171603326
But Sauron is already in the game
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>>171605089
>having travelled over land and unwittingly through time, we come to final chamber in the deepest part of the Ringed City
>Gael is already there
>raving, he says that he's "finally found it!" and reaches to take the Dark Soul
>contact with it instantly causes his humanity to run wild
>he transforms into a Manus-like beast
>fight is a brutal, four-stage affair as he continues to transform and mutate
>upon his defeat, his body shatters into uncountable pieces, and with it, so does the Dark Soul
>one of these fragments winds up in you, as others wind up in humans throughout time
>because Gael was Undead, part of the curse is carried with these fragments
>this is why the Dark Soul is spread throughout humanity, and why the Undead curse exists
>it's all a stable time loop
>because everything runs in a cycle
>everything is circular
>just like a ring
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