/scg/edg/ Star Dangerous Elites General #143: Malvinas Is Rightful

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First for rude posting.

>>171488936
>Above is a pastebin of games you can play while waiting for SC and E:D to become playable.
Nice meme, Scam Citizen. Elite Dangerous is already playable.

>>171489484
what does the OP say goon, Cultizens and CMDRs are friends here. You Will Not Divide Us

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Space is fun
Elite is fun
Frontier is fun

I bought this game 2 years ago when it was a dogfighting sim (star citizen). Is it worth playing yet?

>>171489484
>E:D
>Playable

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>>171489484
playable like a job.

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>>171490109
Guess the game.

>>171491079
EVE

>>171491376
Nope. X REEEEEEEEEbirth

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Everyone

Post ever Star Citizen content related webm you have. Starting from based anon last thread.

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>>171491981

>>171491574
I was about to say X3, because Albion Prelude also had a stock market. (that worked like fucking ass, stocks had a min price and if you bought them you had a guaranteed profit)

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>>171492165

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Anyone want this for their phone?

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>>171492332

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I miss this feature.

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>>171492515

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>>171491981

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>>171493127
>just solved 8 captchas in a row properly

hmmmm

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>>171493282
Right behind you, Anon.

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>>171493282

>>171491079
>holy shit screen capping this

wtf this isn't a new concept
Most MMO's are "I want to eventually do the thing"

>>171493282
>solving them properly
>he doesn't deliberately mislead the heebmachine on ones that he can tell won't give him a pass anyway
>not selecting things that kind of look like storefronts but aren't
>not selectively highlighting or not the legs of signs so the algorithm can't decide if they are elements of a street sign or not
>not doing everything in your power to kill the captcha and inconvenience the giant smiling-face-on-an-evil-corporation conglomerate that is google

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>>171493470

>>171493282
go into settings and use recaptcha v1
fuck that picture clicking shit I'm not in a sweatshop

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>>171493798

>>171493919
I wonder if anyone prefers clicking over typing.

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>>171494214

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>>171494443

>>171489879
Yeah. You can probably get a couple of days of buggy fun out of it. If you've never played cod or whatever tactical FPS before star marine might entertain you for longer than that.

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>>171494651

>>171496685
leddit is disgusting and constantly reposting this makes you as bad as them

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Opinions on multiple levels of weaponry in a single size category? Not sure how I feel about that. Modularity is cool but wouldn't this make balancing hell? It's essentially obsolescence of level 1 and 2 guns when you reach level 3.

>>171493713
>that little thrill you get when you identify a piece of graffiti as a storefront.


What kind of life is this

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>>171496685

>>171496887
Wow sharks get so salty

>>171493713
>evil corporation
>motto is "don't be evil"

Checkmate communist

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>>171494651

>>171489471
furfag

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>>171499050
Rude!

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>>171492165
What is that spinning thing?

>>171499836
Nightmare fuel pls go

>>171499836
Gravity generator.

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Where do you start your Journey, Citizen?

Calling Nyx or Pyro for myself.

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The Graphics guys over at CIG do the best Q&A. Star Citizen is now confirmed to be using Vulkan over DX12.

https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/7581676/#Comment_7581676

>>171492165
>>171499836
Doesn't ME:A also have a spinning ball? It looked a lot worse than the SC one iirc.

>>171497034
I thought that they meant these were size 1, 2 and 3 weapons but they just hadn't shown them all to scale.

>months since I checked this game
>"All kidding aside, I am considering setting up a Goon victory celebration once the Towers of Crobberts falls. I am thinking something in the Keys with an open bar and some fishing charters and an effigy of Chris Roberts that we can drag around with us Weekend at Bernies style . Derek can be the guest of honor and take the first swing at it when we hang it like a pinata and live stream the whole loving thing."

I can't believe I'm still seeing the same people what the fuck do they do besides this

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>>171501036
Thanks anon. Here you go.

>>171501214

Yes, a spinning ball that was invented before the ship the characters are in left the Milky Way, and also designed specifically by Cerberus, who would never allow their tech to be used by some faggots in a multi-racial organization to fuck off with it.

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>>171501909
For the goons this is about more than just Star Citizen.

There were many years when the SA community thought it was poised to inherit the title of King Internet Influencers, the young mavericks with their fingers perpetually on the pulse of virtual life. They'd be the ones setting the tone for entire waves of culture and comedy, and FYAD would become the foundry from which all the best memes trickled down to the netizen proletariat.

The whole upset with Goonfleet only confirmed in their minds that they were on the precipice of greatness, but instead it turned out that they had peaked and would only begin a slow and steady descent into what became almost complete irrelevance, a footnote in internet history.

In terms of becoming an influential community, 4chan, their forgotten bastard child living in the carcass of a desiccated ice cream truck on the edge of town, surpassed them in every meaningful way and went on to astonish the world, breaking new ground in what could be accomplished by a dedicated collection of idiots sustained only by blind, relentless autism.

The Goonfleet age should have been their arrival but instead it became the glory days they're doomed to forever relive, cut off in their prime. Star Citizen was a chance to recapture that and they bungled it. Now they're gonna have to carry that weight

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>>171501694
It's pretty clear that they are all way too large to be S1 or even S2 guns. They look like variants of S3 weapons. It's a neat way to fill out a weapon size bracket with guns, but it looks like it could complicate balancing with so many weapons of similar type in a single size category

>>171497442
you didn't hear about them dropping that from the company mission statement?

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>>171497034
>Knightsbridge Arms
Really tickles the almonds

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>fdl with a plasma accelerator, two hammers, and two packhound pods

another fit i need to clearly grow into oh boy

>>171502325
I applaud CIG for going with the best option and not the absolute degenerate cancer that is dx12(((tm)))

>>171512467
I hope Vulkan is actually good. We'll see I suppose.

>>171512467
>>171512585
What can Vulkan do for SC that DX12 cannot?

How will it help us? I'm a pleb so i don't know this shit

>>171514091
it is not win 10 exclusive and can thus be used on pretty much every os as long as it´s not too old
besides that they are mostly the same

>>171514543
ok, so I guess it's better.

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Rocketpods in place of every size missile hardpoint when?

>>171518548
Freelancers are such comfy ships. I want a DUR for scouting and exploring so bad but I'm too happy with my super hornet to let it go.

>>171501214
Was it actually spinning? I thought it just vibrated.

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>>171521956
It spins

>>171521956
>>171522460
Nevermind I was thinking of the core in ME2, not Andromeda.

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Don't let the thread die

Post Banu Merchantmans

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>>171525342
noseheads pls go

>>171525342
I just want the new Merchantman image BHB mentioned on spectrum the other day. All the Xeno ships look so much more interesting than the multiple space planes and flying boxes the humans have.

>>171527247
Hopefully we see that image this month. I think the new babu concept ship is also this month.

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>>171527247
Also, have an underpowered ship that's never going to get a rework because fuck balance.

>>171527032
Always remember who your oldest and BEST ally, goy.

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>>171527930
>babu
I read the thing about a new concept but did they confirm it was actually a Banu ship?

>>171528013
>complaining about khartu
>hasnt flown a merlin

try again

>>171528229
Yes they confirmed it on quantum questions. I want to say she said the concept ship was being sold at the end of this month but I'm not positive.

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When is the new ship being sold?

Man, I hope trackir implementation gets supported soon, I want to use my stick to fight with instead of only fly but using a ship that relies on a chin turret is hell without mouse aim.

>>171514091
It can run on Win7, Win8, Win8.1, Win10 and Linux while DX12 only runs on Win10

>>171528403
Why do you expect a merlin to be good?

>>171531316
2.6.2 or 3.0
They talked about it in last week's Happy Hour if I remember right.

>>171532096
I think its perfect how it is. Its super fast and has great weapons for what it is. Can't wait until I can deploy it from my connie.

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>>171532179
Cool. I figure it depends on how soon they finalize the animation rig on character heads, because in their own words it's "easy enough to include" but every time they'd tweak how looking actually works it would get thrown away.

Is 2.6.2 getting delayed?

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I'm at Knight rank while farming in Quince, how many more runs do I need or just time in general doing these?

Also is the ImpClip worth and if so which build gets the most out it?

>>171535468
Its evocati got pushed back and should be coming out today (20th).

>>171530962
>tfw played the trial with male Ryder and he honestly doesn't look nearly as bad

On the whole, Bioware really needs to entirely replace their animators with competent people.

>>171532096
I never said i expected it to be good. Youre confusing me with the connie pilots who thought it would be a meaningful addition to their ship. Im just saying it needs a slight buff because as it is it only takes a half second of fire to die.

>>171502325
hmmm... might buy a vega card instead of a 1080ti then.

what S3 weapons matches the velocity of Omnisky VI(S2)?

I wish SC had VR support

>>171543146
alastorm please go

What do you all set to your mouse scroll buttons?

>>171543645
Zoom

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>when you go on the official forums and realize no one actually knows what kind of game E:D is supposed to be

>>171543967
its an exploration and cargo trade SIMULATOR.

>>171544019
dont forget ''space trucking sim'' and ''spaceship shooting game''

>>171543967
It's a job simulator like eurotruck or train sim except you are a starfighter pilot in a dystopian far future.

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>>171544019
>its an exploration and cargo trade SIMULATOR.

Why can't I trade with other players? A very poor simulation if you ask me.

>track down assassination target
>he FSDs out with 5% hp left
>spend the next hour flying around the planet and cant find him
am i fucked?

>>171547676

No, he'll probably randomly spawn again at some point under the same conditions he did the first time.

At 100% health.

>>171547676
>did no interdict
Whats with the 3rd rate bounty hunters these days.

>>171549792
ive been playing for 2 days :(

Ships: The Demo

when will this game be actually a game?

3.0? Date? What about the FPS and Netcode?

>>171554068
no date

this year maybe sort of

wanna get either the reclaimer or the orion. Any ideas?

>>171556158
Orion, Reclaimer is a literal garbage ship.

No really. You collect Garbage with it.

Orion is much cooler looking imo and Mining is more profitable.

>>171556716
>salvaging
>garbage

Are you dumb?

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>>171556716
>Mining is more profitable.

how do you know that

>doesn't even exist yet lmao

>>171556952
nervegas.gif?

>>171499836
>>171499836
Real question, why is it just exposed to its containment room and even out to a corridor? That looks like it should be behind sealed doors and a reinforced glass viewing tube in a lab or reactor room, not just put in the open air wherever.

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>>171556716
>he's trying to say which is more profitable based on literally nothing

>>171556158
I say you should start with a Prospector. We currently don't really have a starter salvaging ship, at least not like the Reclaimer. The Cutlass black is supposed to be a salvager because it has tractor beams and possibly hand tools for taking guns or small components and shit. I like the idea of mining more than salvaging, so in my opinion a prospector would be better.

Not only that, but from videos it looks like the prospector will be ready soon, and devs have said that the first iteration of mining will be in 3.0.

Any info on how salvaging and piracy going to work in the final product when every ship disappears into thin air when destroyed?

>>171558708
but I want a big boy ship

>>171556952
>>Mining is more profitable.
A profession dealing with the collection of rare minerals from outer space isn't more profitable than gypsy scrap metal collection

Lmfao tards

Does elite have any gameplay?

>>171559638
You would be taking massive shortcuts, thus, damaging the longevity of this career type for yourself. Progression is fun in its own right. I can't speak for you and how you feel about progression, but I do believe that starting the game with a massive ship like the Orion or Reclaimer is a bad decision.

>>171543001
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k66yHsb2-bPn6kFrzeG4o_E7U9eMbXST1rhoUUl-xaE/edit#gid=2125521889

Anything that is +/- 200 on projectile speed will put the markers within the length of the target ship.

2 Omni VI's sound like a 300 series. Probably a GT-870 mk3 or a 11-series cannon to balance out the energy guns. The size 3 energy cannons tended to overheat too easy in my testing.

>>171547676
you should start to destroy the powerplant of ships instead of the fsd
you can even get big ships down if you kill the powerplant and most importantly they can´t fsd out anymore

>>171561117
ye

>>171560487
>Having to go and scan hoping you find a rare mineral in an asteroid
>Flip on your distress beacon and wreck all the scrubs that show up.

>>171561117

no, play star citizen

>>171564848
lmao no game

>>171564848
>playing a tech demo

>>171564867

you have no game

>>171564876

your face is a tech demo

>>171564848
nah

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>>171561117
>game with no gameplay
>>171564848
>gameplay with no game

>>171565263
>you have no game

Elite works just fine :^)

>>171567954
its ok robert, we got it

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you forgot this

>>171567626
If only. I'd trade my redeemer in for you in a heartbeat.

>>171568318
That's reaching.

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>>171568551
oops, meant this
not that it means much, the Prowler is a complete ripoff

>>171568771
>circling things that are completely different
Like I said, reaching.

>>171567849
I wish this was the cutlass instead

>>171568771

>air intake on the top of the pelican is similar to the turret on top

I guess all symmetric fighters are copying each other because they all have wings.

Mustang rework when?

Le legs of le space le when???

>>171570670
le never, or at least not le anytime soon

>>171561117
Yeah, but it's being patched out next update

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>>171570752

That le makes me le sad and le angry

>2.6.2, an incremental update mostly dealing with optimization takes months to push out the door
This game will never be done.

If the Idris is completed, why is it not planned for 3.0?

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>>171488936
What do they call the butterfly shadow on the first moon?

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So how hazardous are planets going to be? Like extreme weather, strange spatial anomalies, deadly wildlife? I just need something to fill the Stalker void

How do I get arsenic? None of the mesawhatever stones seem to drop anything but maybe germanium
fucking bronzite chondrites with their sulfur

Is it worth it to buy SC now?

>>171577287

There's a couple of planets in Deciat that drop arsenic after a little searching.

>>171495864
>this Moon webm
Sir, whoever made this can be applauded, it's art.

>>171568771
My god, they copped the transparent panels in the front!

>>171571806
Networking sorcery problems

>>171501909

fucking kek. derek predicted NMS, call of duty and andromeda will kill star citizen. every single one of those games are shit.

let's not forget the fucking list of prediction he has completely failed at.

>>171577539

it's always been a fucking bargain at $40.

>>171580654
Star Citizen will actually be incredible, if this pattern holds.

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From the last thread : I'm calling it, CIG will someday make a Drake heavy fighter, and people will be selling their Cutlass like there's no tomorrow because that's what they wanted it for.
http://freelancer.wikia.com/wiki/Corsair_M10_Class_Titan_Very_Heavy_Fighter

Any one want to bet on what is it's spec niche ?

> powerful shield
> medium weapon it shine more with torpedo to be a threat to bigger ship
> weakness : speed and low weapon diversity
I'm still surprised by the Hurricane being a glass canon, to me an UEE ship screamed slow&heavy armored fighter, it's nearly what I would have expected a suicidal pirate to be.

>>171535007
> Corsair, corsair everywhere!
Is that a picture of what Freelancer was supposed to be ? Cockpit and all...

Just watched the trailer again, I will be disappointed if CIG don't had a slow & forgotten colony-ship.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVt7OMLar1s
(and reminder how the longest version was revealing the little plot there was)

>>171580654
NMS is actually pretty good now, it's just a meme to hate it at this point

>>171581318
>pretty good

You mean, it's more of an actual game now. it's still shit.

>>171581318

i didn't follow the hype and pirated NMS. I played it for about 8 hours. It was okay, certainly not a AAA title.

am i correct in assuming this general is 90% SC 5% shitposting and 5% ED?

>>171582315
Yes, ED fags get out.

>>171582315
Sounds about right

>>171581318
It's still ways off of being a propper game, it's cool that they keep adding all this base building and land vehicles stuff but the core game is still repetitive as fuck. Once you've explored around your first landing site on a planet you know how the entire planet looks like and what it has, so it's pointless to keep exploring it.

>>171582315
90% shitposting, 5% SC, 5% E:D

>>171581135
Good. Get the bandwagoners away from my shipfu. I bought the Cutlass for its rugged versatility and for being sexier than it has any right to be.

>>171580836
>Bargain
>Game in current state
Lol no
I paid $20 for it during the holiday sale and I haven't gotten my money's worth.

>>171582526
The freelancer is better than the cutlass.

>>171582593
I'm just fine with that being the prevailing school of thought. Enjoy your Freelancer.

>>171582315
Time to make a separate /edg/.

*winks*

>>171582315
Depends on day and time. It's usually 50% Scam Chitizen 30% Erection:Dysfunctional and 20% Shitposts. After a significant even like a Good ATV or a Con of some sort where new and exciting meaningless demos are show off SC will dominate the generally for a few days to a week or two. Then we will return to our regularly scheduled E:D memery, discussion of when 17D will be back in civil war so the EDfags can farm credits via mass murder and annoyance at Chris for having no fucking clue what he's talking about when release dates come up. E:D shittry is the bread and butter of the general lately simply because their mindless grinding of currency has lasting effect and meaning right now and our does not because is all borderline useless tempcreds that get wiped every patch or REC which anyone who actually plays the alpha has giant pile of already.

No one plays Battle Royale anymore or SB or fucking anything their all in SM for reasons unclear because first release SM is kinda bland.

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>>171582526
>playing a npc pinata mook


I do trust CR/CIG to make it "interesting" because SC is shaping to have out of the box advantage (its rescue version for example) but I keep wondering why player pledge for a ship that will be easy to obtain.

Though, I feel that I wouldn't want any ship that would spoil me the fun of getting it myself.

If SC didn't depended of the store for funding I would have had every players (or those who don't have SQ42) starting the game piloting Argo for money.

>grinding empire rep and 1 rank away for clipper in quince
>realise whats the fucking point
>its a good looking ship to kit out and never play again

whats most suitable loadout just incase i do keep playing and is an conda just better for said purpose?

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>>171583420
The cutlass is a capable all-rounder, people will be using it to work towards a larger specialist ship.

If you end goal is a Cutlass then by all means start in an Aurora or avenger, but if your end goal is a reclaimer or larger Hull series or some other ~$400 multicrew starting in a single seater is both make the grind that much longer and also force your crew into multiple ships, the Cutlass is the actual entry level combat multicrew/small group ship. It has a pilot, engineer, turret gunner, and space for passengers. Particularly post rework, Cutlass is a tiny manageable gunboat with a low price tag, perfect for the person who want to play a crewed ship from Day 1 but doesnt want to spend $250+ shekels.

Another quality post that encourages some positivity on the Dangerous Discussion Forums.
Much respect for that.

Regardless, a Cobra, yeah. You can't be a true E: D CMDR without owning one. Even if it's sitting at
some station gathering dust and hardly ever used. You still have to own one and it has to be YOUR
Cobra. The ship that expresses your individuality in the E: D universe.

This little guy is my Cobra. I take it out on rare occasions and throw it about. The last time I used it,
it was outfitted for mining. That role is to be taken over by a T9 when I get around to it.

I have to own every ship kit and paintjob for it possible - except the flags of countries I cannot relate to.

No way is the Cobra my favourite ship, but if I didn't own one, I might as well uninstall E: D.

>>171583420
You do realise the argo is an unarmed short range utility crane with an engine right? it's not even a proper ship, more of a shuttle than anything else.

>>171583997
o7

>>171583997
wat?

Is that like the autists who claim that you need to own an aurora to "get the whole experience"in SC?

>look we are talking about ED

>>171583420
It's my favorite ship and I want LTI on it. As you said it will be easy to obtain so how much gameplay am I even skipping? A week or two?

I could easily afford a much larger ship but I haven't because I like starting somewhat from scratch. Like >>171583907 said it's an entry level multicrew I can fly around with a friend or two and take a variety of different jobs starting out to see what we like best. I'm leaning towards salvage and may work towards a Reclaimer if I meet enough people I like to be able to crew it.

>>171583907
Damn, Cutlass rework looks so sexy

>>171584243

You're that guy who's constantly wanting to separate the threads, aren't you? How's it going, man?

>>171499836
Wormhole drive

>>171584146

The Cobra is legitimately a good ship to use if you can save up a bit of cash while in a Sidewinder, but dads take it too far. I can't imagine trying to mine in a Cobra, it's painful enough doing it in a Python.

>>171584580
>boogieman ahoy
At least you didn't call me DS or goon, thanks!

>>171584803
Mining in anything is painful. Having to mine 500 units for that engineer is absurd.

>pls continue to bump our jpeg discussion general >we're talking about elite now see
>pls don't leave

>>171585172
(You), specifically, are welcome to leave.

>>171571806
They aren't ready to implement capital ships as a whole

>>171577539
$40 gets you alpha, beta and full game so why not

>>171576185
I would imagine certain planets are going to be extremely dangerous

if SC winds up with a future sci-fi STALKER feel that'll be incredible

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>>171587078
C'mon man, you know that's not happening.

>Can't buy Modular Terminals anywhere

I am a space billionaire, I think I would be able to track down who manufactures these things.

As a retard who bought Engineers I want to say fuck this shit. I don't want to mind-numbingly farm for tens of hours so that I can have the expensive ship I mind-numbingly farmed for hours be combat worthy against other autistic players' fully built death machines.

>>171589202
It's ok to drop the game if you are not enjoying it.

>>171589202
But you knew what you were getting into when you bought the expansion AND that you could choose not to make yourself available to those things. You have a choice and it is all your fault.

>>171589317
>>171589430
Or FDev could make a fun system that doesn't require autism

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>>171584028
Of course I do. I said "start with", if it wasn't a bad idea I would have players start as crew aboard npc ship so they get the hang of it. It would be the step before choosing Aurora or Mustang

>>171583907
SC stretch the meaning of "end goal" quite a lot but I wouldn't call the Cutlass this. I don't expect it to keep it's niche beyond "it's cheap". Some ship will be overall inferior to other and ...well, it has the making of a npc pirate mook.
CIG can still surprise us of course, the atmospheric shield at the rear could make it more useful.

>>171584339
True it's easier to defend than getting a LTI Polaris.
One of my "goal oriented" ship is one I will call "The cathedral of Kadesh" I let you guess what it is and what I'll do with it.

Picture unrelated

>>171589430
I wish I had known what I was getting into when I bought Horizons. Planetary landings can kiss my ass, I don't have any of the ships that launch fighters and engineer grinding is autism. I wish I was aware of that months ago.

>>171589024
The worst thing is the description for these states that they're ubiquitous parts used in just about everything, in which case they would be made and sold everywhere.

>>171589570
To add, it doesn't even have to be fun, but having some dude refuse to work with me unless I go mine 500 tons of shit or some dude requiring 50 tons of tea that only drops in batches of 5, all while gating some of the engineers behind others is retarded game design.

>>171590148
>is retarded game design
Literally your standard fare "bring me 50 wolf pelts" MMO design.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>171590596
I stand by my statement

>>171589851
You can acquire ships that launch fighters.

>>171590698
That's because you're stupid.

>>171589604
They're designing every ship to have a persistent niche. Whether or not they succeed at that, I don't expect they'll be satisfied with any ship being relegated to "fodder but cheap fodder".

Even if the Cutty gets outclassed in central systems, there will be jump routes that larger ships can't fit through so she may be best equipped for operating in remote space.

>>171590879
Why would you defend the shittiest type of game design?

>>171591467
Have some better game design that will replace the industry standard, kiddo?

>>171591778
I suppose anything other than mindless grind would spook the dads

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never forget best ally

>>171593406
I suppose you don't actually have any worthwile ideas and just complain for the sake of complaining.

>>171593438
>Honest Merchantman splits in two like anime

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>>171593989
>You can't call something bad unless you are better at making it.

>>171594623
>This is what cultists believe
>This is why they're so devoted

>>171594623
That's not what I'm saying though. If you find this type of gameplay unsatisfactory you're must have a coherent idea of what IS satisfactory.

But since you're dodging that question again and again I'll mark you as another bitchy contrarian 4chan kid.

>>171594585
that's a grate jpg commando o7o7o7

when does the next buyback token come?

>>171595273
April 3rd

>>171595328
aight thanks

>>171595273
>171595328
What's a buyback token?

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>>171594585
>buy spess yacht
>gather up all the autistic roleplayers and furries who bought the game to do nothing but ERP in city hubs
>start pimping them out on your traveling love boat in exchange for buying them cute clothes
>occasionally traffick them out into pirate space in exchange for targeted hits against your competitors
>corner the space cybersex market and build an empire on zero-g tevarin loli ticklefucking

So how do I get LTI on a ship I want?

>>171594957
As an analogy; I have a bad chair, I know it is uncomfortable, and I know there are better chairs. However, I know very little about ergonomics so I don't know how to improve my chair. That doesn't prevent me from making the valid point about how my chair is uncomfortable.

The difference is that I could easily get a better chair, but when I try to talk about the problems with E:D I get swarmed by people insisting there are none.

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>>171595561
It allows you to buy back a melded pledge with store credit for the price you bought it at that moment. You can buy pledges back without the token but that would mean i have to spent money on it

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>>171595212
NIGGER

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>>171593438
how are the capital ships going to work in Star citizen?
i seriously hope you can't one man fly one. that would suck

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>>171591374
Oh I'm totally with you on that, it's just that some ship will have much stricter niche than others, up to simply being outclassed in an more classical vertical progression.

I mean, the Cutlass might have a very good selling point with its new atm-shield or with tractor beam. But if we only took cargo, speed & contraband and combat the Freelancer might be better (customization set aside).

Enough rambling, your ship is shit and my ship is awesome, deal with it.
http://discoverygc.com/wiki/Z-1138_%22Mule%22_Pirate_Freighter

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>The year is 2020
>The Forumdad Alliances Guild (Fag) controls over 70% of trade in the galaxy due to forumdads trading and grinding nonstop
>Pirates try to attack them but Fag just keeps retaliating by docking ships at Port Olisar and others keeping them at full capacity so nobody can leave
>Reddit makes a guild a la TEST Alliance for mercenary work, only employers are the Forumdads and NPCs
>3 systems in the corner of space considered a 'dead zone': Nobody goes there, not even NPCs, because Russians just blockade the shit out of everything and kill on sight unless you can speak Cyrillic. Nobody knows what happens there, not even CIG
>NEETs keep finding vulnerabilities in the game and exploiting like parking Orions in certain high-traffic zones and killing small craft that helplessly crash into them coming out of warp
>/edgscg/ creates a guild to just fuck around and piss off the forumdads, collapses within a month due to drama, corruption, griefers and reddit infiltrators
>Team of 50 cunts from something awful forums just rampaging through space stations and murdering EVERYONE
>Star Citizen still in beta

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>>171596356
Who are you trying to bait?
Of course you can't fly it alone you'll have your 20 hired npc-crew kill wannabe pirate while you manage your inventory

>>171594957
Making me fly for 20 minutes, pick up some meta alloys, then fly back for another 20 minutes is not an interesting or fun way to get access to an engineer. Players should be able to skip this "gameplay" entirely, they already had to enjoy travel "gameplay" by hauling their ass to the engineer and they still have to get all the materials to do the engineering + increase the engineers rank if they want grade 5. Its not a matter of how can we make the grind to unlock engineers more fun its a matter of why should we need to do pointless missions to become buddy buddy with the engineer when every npc, player, and their mom seems to have these upgrades.

>>171596150
>THIS GAMEPLAY IS SHIT
>it's kinda the norm
>NO IT"S SHIT
>alright what kind of gameplay you want?
>I DON'T KNOW WHAT I WANT
>CHAIR ANALOGIES
Keep dodging that bullet, kiddo.

>>171589604
>atmospheric shield

Wait what?

>>171597382
It's the same thing as kicking epic loot out of the raid boss, you're saying we all should skip it and get the super sword right from the start.

What?

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>>171596356
Crewed by a single person is pretty unlikely but I reckon you could fill it full of NPC crew of you want to pay the wage of 60 odd crew who are less effective than human crew (engaged ones, not the ones just jerking off to /gif/ while alt tabbed.) And that's not even taking into account the effectiveness of instead just paying for additional wingmen.

>>171589604
>Reliant prepares herself for another load

>>171597648
Finding the engineer and then grinding the materials to get the upgrades isn't kicking open the loot box immediately. In addition that raid boss is more interesting than mining 500 units. I want to play E:D for the combat, not for the cargo transport mission I need to unlock the next engineer.

>>171560487
>rare minerals from outer space isn't more profitable than gypsy scrap metal collection

what do you think those rare minerals are used for? (spaceships)

not to mention salvaging working parts

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>>171597672
>yfw skipper hired you to man the heat management console but you're too busy venting heat on /gif/

>>171597427
>Lots of people use this gameplay so it isn't bad

>>171597648

Going through an epic raid for loot is fun. Telling a player to mine 500 tons of ore, when mining is the most monotonous and meaningless activity in the game, is ridiculous. Telling a player to fuck off 5k LY from the bubble to access an engineer for fucking thruster upgrades is absolutely mental. Cookie-cutter MMO fetch quests somehow manage to be more engaging and fun than unlocking engineers in Elite.

>>171599903
Again, I haven't said that, please don't strawman so often.

I've said that you don't know what's good gameplay either, so your complaining is meaningless and worthless.

>>171598610
If anything, the combat upgrades should have materials dropped from engaging in combat and FSD upgrades and the like should come from scanning data, etc. The mismatch of the laundry list of things to make upgrades combined with the RNG makes Engineers a grind that distracts you from actually playing the fucking game, what little there is already.

>>171600083
Mate, it's literally fetch quests, mat gathering and enchantment from most MMOs.

Who are you trying to bullshit here?

>>171600275
You're not saying the gameplay is good either. From what I gather the argument you're resting on is "other people seem to enjoy this".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQTExqr3emE

>>171600423
Its not good gameplay. It distracts you from actually playing the game. Why would somebody who wants better multicannon upgrades have to travel 5k LY from the bubble and mine shit instead of having him use the shitty multicannons he has now to get the materials instead. Christ, even MMOs aren't this stupid, you don't have to do dungeons in FF14 just to get crafting mats.

>>171600726
It wouldn't be so bad if you could buy modded shit from other players. Then someone who enjoys grinding could do so and then I could get modded shit without having to grind stuff other than credits.

>>171600479
My argument is that you are delusional. You THINK you have built some high standards in your head that simply don't exist in reality and never existed, but then it appears you can't even formulate what those standards are.

Your talk is empty. Not a single open world space game is devoid of grind and fetch quests and mob farming.

>>171601205
I never had to grind in EVE though

>>171601325
Oh please, tell me how you didn't grind in the grindiest space game ever.

Sugar daddy dropped you isk and stuff?

>>171601817
I did market speculation, and then I did salvage. I was never forced by the game to mine or grind other shit I didn't want to do before I could access shit though.

>>171602249
EVE has the grindiest skill progression system that literally wastes your time.

You need to acquire skills to get what you want or no go.

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>>171602249
That's the beauty of Eve, you do what you want

>>171602916
Although the skill system is the reason I quit EVE it isn't grindy, just scummy for a subscription based game.

>>171603857
I'm sure the game would be more popular if you could get skillpoints by killing players or something.
>Combat skills level up via combat
>Trade levels up via profits made in trade

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>>171588994
You mean that I won't be able to suit up in homemade radiation protection gear, grab a centuries old AK and hunt alien abominations on a planet that wants me dead?

>>171587078
bls maek dis gaem

Is there any Clipper builds or is this thing a piece of junk and buy the Anaconda instead?

>>171597568
talking about the energy shield that keep the air-in

New Cutlass will have one are the rear only.

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>>171594585
I just want my 315p remodel.

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>>171605352

I really hope planets become something great. With lush jungles and nightmarish hellscapes.

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>>171606081
i think that the clipper might be a tad underpowered in comparison to the dropshit lineup right now. it needed at least a single military slot. the arrangement of hardpoints isn't condusive to flexibility in what's even viable for firing. those large hardpoints are gimbal mounts almost all the time for me

fdl a cute

>>171600423

>Cookie-cutter MMO fetch quests somehow manage to be more engaging and fun than unlocking engineers in Elite.
>are more fun than Elite

Fetch quests in MMOs usually at the very fucking least have a story behind them or make any kind of sense, instead of "go a long arbitrary distance that only I can somehow track," or "Gather an arbitrary amount of ore that takes absolutely no brain power to get." This is without even mentioning that doing these brainless fetch quests is practically mandatory, unless you want to get stomped up and down the street by aimbotting NPCs and players who went the distance to cheese out all their ships.

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Has 2.6.2 gone to evocati yet?

>>171616235
n-no

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>>171616235
>Has 2.6.2 gone to evocati yet?
3.0 soon nigga!

>>171593438
who made this, it reads like a first grader

>>171612653
>FDL

You're flying a giant slipper.

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>>171596079
>tevarin loli ticklefucking

Will SC capture the feeling of being a crew member like Puzzle Pirates?

>feel like joining a crew to get some quick cash
>join up with some ship doing hauling runs, immediately join the ship without having to do autistic roleplay in some third-party forum
>get orders to man station, do your job
>everyone has clear roles, captain and navigator have different jobs that you will probably never do as a lowly peasant but it's still cool because you still have fun with the game
>sometimes have casual banter the entire time as you peacefully sail to the ship's destination, and get a nice paycheck and thanks from the captain (sometimes even asks you to join the crew officially if you did a good job)
>sometimes you end up joining a pirate/bounty hunter ship or your trader gets attacked and it's tense as fuck with everyone doing their best to keep the ship afloat, the guns reloading, and sailing fast
>that amazing feeling when everyone is bantering to the other fleet when you kick their ass, and everyone is cheering each other as the captain splits the loot
>that clear divide between captain, officers, and regular crew that makes you feel like you actually matter to the crew

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Daily reminder that the Banu are not to be trusted.

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what is going on with my flight stick? it is the saitek x56 flight stick. the rudder was working fine then it stopped responding and kept going left

>>171626023
any good kill the xeno orgs?

>>171627047
not that I know of, sadly. I imagine if Titan armor lets us go full Space Marine a bunch will pop up.

>>171626738
Try an isolation test and plug it into another machine if you have one, and check it there.
Check the inbuild windows game controller software to see if it does the same thing there.
Reinstall Saitek Driver to rule out software.
It looks hardware related like a sensor has busted, but this will tell you for sure.

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>>171627047
IonStormfront pls go

>>171627382
>he would live next door to this

>>171626738

Looks like a break from wire fatigue. The x56's internal wiring is unharnessed, thin and has a shitty layout that causes it to flex too much during use. The x55 has the same problem.

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>>171596801
Honestly, I wish. But CIG are never going to release the part of the game where they quit selling every ship for IRL jewgold only. They're also not going to fix all the buggy shit. Someone's going to make a spess shep mmo that doesn't bother with the overcomplicated ship damage model or waste time on a immersive lobby.

SC tries to go in too many directions. Now they're making a shitty CoD clone to add on to their tech demo? Fucking really? I just want a fun spaceship sim, with maybe a lite FPS bit with ship-boarding. Rather than waste time making every planet have SEAMLESS LANDING, just run everything from spaceports, and finally make the MMO with space piracy I dream of.

>>171629034
The first time you break atmo into black space after steeping from a properly modeled planet onto you ship and just flying up until you run out of air to fly in, you will understand how wrong you are and have been, Goon.

>>171627231
the inbuilt windows controller tester wouldnt work for me, i got it to the test page but nothing shower
i believe its hardware thank you

>>171628873
could be this i had to adjust the dead zone a little bit a few days ago

>>171629034
>wants lite fps
>complains about a shitty cod clone
make up your mind faggot

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>>171629468
That's fair. They seem to be going in the direction of a TDM minigame as part of the MMO, which is fucking confusing to me. I would have been more excited to see them stage a boarding of one of the hueg ships, maybe with some console the defending team has to keep from getting blown up or hacked or some shit. But I guess they can't make two ships dock with eachother yet? Not without spontaneous combustion I assume.

Piracy is sort of better in E:D, but it's still pretty shit. If you grind for the Engineer mods and have the proper loadout, and you keep tabs on the meta and know where the good trade routes are, motherfuckers just combat log, and go cry on the official forum about harassment. Christ.

>>171596240
I need this ship. I wonder how much effort it will take to get it in game.

>>171630539
too much, most likely
enjoy getting cucked by people with too much loose change whenever you try to erp in your shitty freelancer :^)

>>171630034

>Piracy is sort of better in E:D

How? Because muh roleplay? Or are you talking about simply wasting faggots before they have time to wake out? That's fine and all but the problem with "piracy" in Elite is that there's literally no point to it. The way that cargo scooping works and how black markets work, there's no reason to go through all the trouble of interdicting someone, shooting out their drives/hatch, and then scooping all of their shit up, all before system security shows up and while having a meta-fitted ship, which is probably not going to allow enough cargo slots to be able to scoop enough cargo for profit in the first place. You can make more money fucking mining in a day than you can trying to stake people up in a day. This is one of the things they need to borrow from EVE: Gankers love to melt carebears in shitfitted haulers and interdict DSTs, but they also make a pretty big profit from doing so. There's a reason they're doing it beyond collecting carebear tears.

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300 series rework when?

My 315p feels so underwhelming compared to all of the newer ships that have been designed since.

>>171630034
>sort of better
It's not good at all.

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>>171628704
I would vote for this.

>>171631026
You're absolutely right. It's why CODE is pretty much dead. This could be fixed pretty easily by buffing hatch breakers, but Frontier devs aren't gonna do that. They do approve of ganking, though. They spotlight'd SDC, trying to make them some sort of Goonswarm (It made EVE popular, r-right?) But they won't rebalance the whole game to make PvP the focus. Multiplayer almost feels like an afterthought.
SC LOOKS like they're going to make piracy an intergral part of gameplay (dat trailer) but there's nothing in the game for it yet. Wait another year I guess.

>>171631158
300 series is after cutlass, i heard
it's queued for rework regardless

>>171632463
>300 series is after cutlass, i heard
I don't know anything about cutlass, so what timeframe?

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So will we see ship to ship communication in 3.0? How am I going to flag down ships I want to rob without sounding like a faggot in global chat?

>>171631767

>believing in trailers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23GEX4pYL9w

>>171632525
cutlass rework could very well come out in 3.0, so 3.1 optimist, 3.2 pessimist, assuming it's next up

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>>171632541
Hopefully not like how you sounded here or you're shit out of luck m80.

>>171632670
*tractor beams u*
what now CMDR?!?!

>>171631581
you'll burn alongside them

You think I will be able to pump my own music through my spaceship speakers when I am cruising the stars?

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>>171632653
Well I guess I'll be optimistic then.

>>171632764
Yes goyi- friend, Banu is only race to be trusted :^) UEE greatest and longest ALLY :^)

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>>171632872
banu is worse tho
vanduul>xi'an>tevarin>>>space kikes

>>171632985
>banu is worse tho
A-ally what does this mean? Do you not remember the good old times?

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Almost there bois

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>>171634219
ayyy it fixed my mission

>>171634219

>CPU 53C
>GPU 50C

How is your CPU so hot and your GPU so cool? My CPU never gets above 35 and my GPU usually hangs around 50 - 60ish.

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>>171634587
Well first of all my GPU is watercooled, second is I'm running a 3570k OC'd to 4.2 Ghz, making my cpu the bottleneck of my system so it runs pretty hot.

>>171634578
How much is the mission worth?

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>>171633228
I'm just going to settle in Bacchus. You don't mind do you? I mean, we're such good friends and this system has cultural significance to us. Just remember UEE is an empire of peace.

>>171635031
About 100m

>>171635152
Dear god, man. I could buy an Anaconda for that.

>>171635545
>Anaconda
>130M at Jameson

I'm not too good at math but I think 130 is greater than 100

>>171636715
I already have 150,000,000Cr.

>>171634578

Looks like a giant puckered anus.

Why are people so obsessed with Asps?

>>171638381

A few different reasons:

1. Excellent smuggling ship, the go-to ship to run Robigo back in its hayday
2. le epic multirole meme. It has a bit of internal slots and is a mediocre combat ship, therefore dads and plebs who don't know any better flock to it because "It can do anything!!!"
3. It's a good ship to use to taxi yourself between systems so you can transfer the ships you'll actually be using.

>ASP

>>171638381
Its jump range is second only to the anaconda, which it is far cheaper than, so it tends to be the preferred explorer ship. When people take screenshots of cool things they find while exploring, they tend to find it necessary to include their ship in the shot as though they're taking a selfie. Expect to see more diamondbacks and dolphins in these shots when they get better jump range in 2.3.

>>171638826
>and is a mediocre combat ship

To be fair it consistently raped other small/med ships save the Python with those 6 hardpoints, until the Vulture and FDL were added.

>>171639376
Is the Dolphin getting a pretty good range?

>>171639391

FUN FACT: The >Asp was the original DAKKA ship on account of the hardpoint count and multis only coming in sizes 1 and 2.

>>171639573

35-ish completely stripped to down the frame, pre-engineering.

Interesting the DBX now has fractionally better stripped jump range than the Annie, but since the Anaconda can shed over a hundred tons through mods it still comes out ahead engineered.

>>171639901
Gotta use an Orca now to explore in style

>>171640587

Well it does have 36ish LY jump and incredible straight-line speed now.

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>>171625691

I love Puzzle Pirates man, if crewing in SC ends up anything like that I would be stoked.

>>171643204
The only game I've played that even came close to Puzzle Pirates was Artemis Bridge Simulator so I will keep my expectations low.

>>171554068
>What about the FPS
Isn't that already out?

>>171630034
You can jump from you ship, jetpack through space, and board an enemy ship *right now* and FPS take out the crew. All seamlessly. The reason you don't see it with the hueg, capital ships is because they currently don't have the netcode to support the hueg ships online.

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What is your money Printing plan /scg/? Mine is pic related with my org.

>>171646135
>some jokester with a hijacked bengal rams into you out of nowhere
>yfw

>>171646303
Jokes on him, my Hull has LTI and is a relatively common, mass produced ship, his bengal does not and will take him months to refit and get flying again even if he manages to find another serviceable hull.