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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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SMT HD Game and 3DS game planned in the works:
http://shin-megamitensei.jp/

SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfkAh4iZ6o

Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

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Amane is best girl!
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Another day in the Yuzu general.
What a time to be alive!
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Please put updated tips and tricks pastebin with Megami Tensei I & II info in the next OP.

http://pastebin.com/kHK2a6dR
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Give me a life stone
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>>171453424
Fuck off Frost
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>>171452815
where are the tips and tricks on how to actually make megaten 1 and 2 good games?
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>>171454028
Time travel back to 1990.
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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

: )
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>>171454681
>All those votes when only 5 people play SMT games
???
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>>171455127
It's a meme.
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>>171452575
Do you think there's a magical spell or power a demon knows in SMT that makes a woman's tits permanently bigger?
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>>171455484
You Zan them up.
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Fuck Final. Disgraceful piece of shit kusogeimu.
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>>171457094
It has Toki though
>You will never fuck Toki's brains out while she's losing her mind in lust
Why live?
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>>171457776
I can hear the vans pulling up now
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>>171457776
Toki is trash though.
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>>171457818
Toki is best girl. Even as you're about to take her life the last thing she says before you slit her throat is that she loves you. Now that is some unconditional love
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>>171452386
Nocturne a shit
Strange Journey a best
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so hey

I just wanted to play SMT4. You know, I'm sitting on the work place 24/7 and bought 3DS, so I can play some long games like Etrian Odysseys, Rune Factory, SMT's, Dragon questst and something else, im not sure what 3DS really have. because there are no Castlevanias, no Ouendan, no Trauma Team, no TWEWY, almost no Kirby. Well, you got me.

I'm old SMT player, I played persona 2 both, on ps1 and psp, persona first one, 3 and 4, completed 100% Nocturne on Hard with all endings, Strange Journey Solo (its not really hard), played SMT: NINE, played IMAGINE, beat both Raidou Kuzunoha (both games pretty boring if you ask me), beat both Avatar Tuner and even beat Hitoshura in DDS 1, and got Amala Ring in DDS2.


So, I just wanted to play SMT4.
but


>please select difficulty
>please respawn for money
>please tutorial
>please do you understand
do you understand
do you understand
I m not fucking comprehend

what am I fucking cerebral palsy? do I have brain cancer? what the even fuck? I pl\ayed these games 15 year ago, there were no fucking TUTORIAL, we just played. there were no shit like, "AHAHAH EVERY YOU ANSWER MEAN NOW SOMETHING AND CHANGE SOMETHING AND YOU GO MAKE WORLD". fuck. it was the point of game - we played, we find new ideas, new plot pieces, and only somewhere there we find about world and other.

I thought, after these years game must, you know, be BETTER than back then. but this is fucking I don't even


well
at least looks like it's somewhat difficult and demons at least can kill me

but I think i'll stick with Sekaiju no meiq for now.

and voiceover. we had pretty good English voiceover in DDS, but looks like now ATLUS got poor and can buy only MCdonalds cashier's voices

what the even fuck
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>>171460447
Play Apocalypse, I am sure you'll like it :^)
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>>171460447
Is this a pasta. I feel like I've seen it before.
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>>171461005
no it s fucking original content

>>171460979
i got SMT4 FINAL too. but then it turned out its another game, like, siquel. and i thought it's like GOTY or something, usual smt4 with more quests, demons, endings. so i need to play 4 before i think it s not like 4 is bad, but looks like its casual and shit. not easy, no, demons still can OHKO full party, from beginning. but this OH MATE THERE ARE TUTORIAL FOR EVERY SHIT AND THERE ARE DIFFICULTY SETTING AND PLS DO NOT DIE PLS HELLO KITTY ONLINE

where s my Cozy Okada, Satomi Tadashi and others

we had, like, Nocturde, DDS, P2. we had, like, ff8 (7 9 10), and now we have all this shit

how did we come to all this
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Earlier today I thought to myself, "Man, they should have let you sacrifice asahi in the Cleo dlc and made Cleo a party member instead of a demon, that way your choices in the dlc actually matter outside of the dlc" but then I remembered what game I was playing
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>>171457886
No, its being mentally handicapped. That level of obsession might seem hot to autistic retards who have never touched a real girl, but in practice it would get annoying extremely fast.
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>>171461915
That's not something that would happen in any game, much less this game.
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>>171462830
>Not being an autistic retard that has never touched a girl
Normies need to leave
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>>171463184
Why? Pussy feels sweet.
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>>171463551
Because you don't belong, obviously.
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>>171461915
>penny_peterson_by_cartoongirlsfeet2-d7te50t.jpg
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>>171463645
Neets don't get to decide where chads go. That right is given by getting pussy alone through lifting alone.
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>>171463673
I love how despite the quality otherwise being high, his hat is cut off in the middle.
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>>171462891
You can do it in Mass effect 2 with the asari bitch
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>>171462830
>Unconditional love is annoying
And people wonder why cuckolds exist
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What's the best buld for SMTIV:A? I kinda wanted to do dex...

Also how do I redeem the items from the SMTIV save? Can't find the option on the smartphone.
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>>171467568
It literally does not matter. Its piss easy on conflict and lower, and If you're doing apocalypse, you'll probably be ending up with 999 across the board anyway. The rewards you get from the hunter association
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>>171468325
I'm playing on war actually.
Do hama and mudo scale off mag? A MC with gun skill and mudo/hama sounds good.
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>>171471923
Yeah, Hama and mado are mag, and no longer instakill pass/fail but instead are just elemental damage like agi, but, etc. Unless you have smirk and enemy is vulnerable to it

So you'd need to split the stats unless you want to go full agreement/luck and rely on crits/preemptive strike a for smirk. If you want to go Dex, go full dx/ag/lu. Although you don't get elemental bullets until way later, so you'll mostly be relying on status procs
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>>171472421
Autocorrect got me fucked up
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>>171472421
Weird. I remember findong elemental bullets pretty early in vanilla IV
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>>171465471
Obsession isn't love.
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>>171474614
What IS love?
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>>171476150
OH BABY DONT HURT ME
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So what is the best version of Demikids?
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>>171474614
Not like love is real anyway
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>>171478823

Poor baby, did someone break up with you?
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>>171481810
No. I've never even been in a relationship. Probably never will either.
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Was is Satan's design so shit 90% of the time. Is there like a rule that if Lucifer looks cool satan must look like shit as well at the inverse also true being true?
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Is there a link to join the Discord? I understand if not but, just wondering
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>>171483808
We don't have a discord
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>>171483808
You mean the gay circle-jerk?
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>>171483838
Oh really? Thought there was one for some reason, but thanks anyway
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Any Christians in here?
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What's your favorite boss fight(s)?
Something about the Merkabah/Lucifer fight I really liked
I feel like they should've done their fights like apocalypse did in 4 instead of having to go through two separate dungeons, though their dungeons were sick
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>>171484927
Yeah, what up?
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>>171472421
shit.

What other skills do you reccomend on a dex build?

tetrakarn/makarakarn?
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>>171454681
no mt2 no vote
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>>171484960
Hitting Luci with that last freikugel was satisfying as hell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B274jFa5hxY
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>>171459026
Look, another newfag.
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>>171492467
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How many Hoys does it take to revive a dead general?
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>>171485489
Your going hell for liking this series :^)
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>>171457776
that picture tingles me dingle
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>>171495923
But what if I always side with GOD?
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Has anyone read the SMT IV or DeSu manga?

Did you like it?
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>>171496952
>I killed Isabeau last night
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>>171496559
Well then, I guess you're safe
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>>171454681
where the fuck is if
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I DID IT
I FINALLY BEAT MEM ALEPH

0-4: I play the game again to get the other endings
5-9: I watch them on YouTube and go finish DeSu instead
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>>171498073
Enjoy anon :^)
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Nearing the end of Soul Hackers. Should I do DDS, SJ, or Apocalypse next?
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>>171499097
You should take a break anon. Playing a bunch of RPGs in a row will make you burnout.
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>>171499097
Apocalypse if youve played 4
SJ if not and you like good games

DDS never
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>>171499413
Strangely enough I haven't at all, and when I did take a break it just made me really want to start the next game. Something about this series just clicks with me.

>>171499449
I have beaten 4, so I guess I may as well do Apocalypse. I've heard the characters and writing weren't so great in it, which is a shame because that was the best part of 4.
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>>171499097
DDS
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What are some good fictional works to get into if I enjoy SMT's presentation of mythos? Doesn't necessarily have to be another game but those are definitely welcome.
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>>171499681
>characters and writing
Much better in Apocalypse than IV, don't know where you heard that meme.

Granted the story is kind of a clusterfuck at times but it's a stronger narrative
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>>171500419
learn japanese
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>>171500419
http://menasepublications.blogspot.com.br/2010/09/reincarnation-of-goddess.html
Paradise Lost
His Dark Materials
The Golden Dawn
Devilman
Saint Seiya
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>>171500419
The Bible. Just the New Testament, though.
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>>171500419
Castlevania.
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>>171501147
>any of the characters in Apocalypse
>good
Walter alone is better than the entire party in Apocalypse save for Navarre.
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>>171501147
he's lying
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>>171501147
Final is bad.
I regret playing it desu.
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>Tfw my friend who has played literally every SMT game loves IV:A, in fact it's probably one of his favorites in the whole series.
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>>171508816
what the fuck, is there someone who actually seriously believes that walter "the smirking bull" is better than your companions in apoc? how badly has this general fallen?

>>171509297
>>171509872
fuck off retards
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>>171511270
Walter as a character is way better than any of the chuckle fuck companions in Apocalypse.
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>>171511270
This general has never liked anime tropes.
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Where have all the waifufags and Apocolypse babbys been coming from lately?
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>>171511410
okay, as a character, he's slightly better written, but I dreaded seeing that faggot coming up in the battle and handing out free press turns every fucking time

>>171511505
I'll take anime tropes that only a few of the companions in apoc were than literal chaosman, lawman, and neutralgirl
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>>171511765
No was talking about the characters gameplay wise.
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>>171511765
I prefer less vocal characters in my games.
Chiaki and Isamu.
Not Toki and Asahi.
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>>171511667
/pg/
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Hoy.
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consider this: toe-ki
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There's navvare and the characters who make fun of navarre
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Is SJ the Mass Effect of SMT?
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>>171519701
what's that supposed to mean dawg
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god I'm so tired of /pg/'s autism can I hang out with you guys for a while?
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>>171520514
No. Go away.
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>>171520514
Take the SMT pill. Understand that persona games are casual dating sims. Your life will improve tenfold.
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>>171519701
SJ is shit, so yes.
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>>171454681
>posts yumiko
>no mt1 or 2
gif related
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>>171520514
What disgusting creatures. They should be eradicated.
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>>171509872
Akiha looks so bad with red hair.
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>>171522763
What is Merkabah's preferred pronoun?
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>>171523302
Chariot
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>>171523302
>>171522763
Why does YHWH approve of such degeneracy?
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>>171523761
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>>171471923
I did str/luck but kept hama and upgrades, tons of hordes are weak to it and getting preemptive smirks deletes them
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>>171501147
Leave, memer.
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>>171454681
where the fuck is soul hackers
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>>171522763
>get to smt4 neutral ending
>huh, man, jonathan, you know you look pretty damn feminine
>2nd form does away with the girliness so its ok
>apoc comes out
>merkabah becomes a full on woman with huge knockers
like what in the fuck
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ONE
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>>171528367
in the trash
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One good thing to come from Final is no autismal fiend hunting shenanigans
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>>171534892
except now its four million times more boring
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IAMHEAVENABOVEOUTSIDEYOU
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>1 day remains... tomorrow the day
AAAAAH
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>>171539547
can't wait for national retard day
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>>171539547
The first day of spring?
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What did you think of this spectacular game? You have played it right?
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>>171541924
I think it alright, but expected much more from the story desu. Idols and aesthetics are okay, but pandering and autism is not.
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>>171541924
I'll give it a shot when CEMU is finished, theres a zero percent chance of me buying a wii u for a game that looks like shit.
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>>171541924
Loved it and had much more fun with than with Apocalypse grindfest.
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>>171511270
>in the first half of the game everyone worships Flynn
>in the second half everyone wants Nanashi's cock
>almost no character developmemt, maybe just a little from Navarre and Hallelujah
>Dagda is there only to disagree with everyone else and throw random edge at whatever. He's the personification of a Coldplay music.
>Everyone acting like Dagda's mithology matters when the real world Dagda is the polar opposite of Mr. Edge here
>characters from the previous game are dumbed down to Persona Q levels
Brilliant examples of writing such as:
>Homeslice went bananacakes
>Toki is blushing [while wearing a mask that fully covers her face]
>Tenkai being a stoner
>literally every dialogue from Dagda
>Killing the final boss by giving him a "why you suck" speech
So no, fuck YOU, people like you is the death of jrpgs. But maybe you could enjoy yourself in the /fe/ general.
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>>171539547
Fuck, can't wait.
Its better not to be SJ 3DS remake though.
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>>171543596
>in the second half everyone wants Nanashi's cock
Actually in the second half everyone continues to worship Flynn's cock. I cringed so hard when I found this fucking demon pig who said that he would gladly suck Flynn off, Jesus fucking Christ...
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About what level can I do the Cleopatra DLC quest?
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>>171543596
>He's the personification of a Coldplay music.
No, that'll be me, thank you very much.
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>>171543945
Actually kek'd.
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>>171543596
I actually haven't played Apocalypse. Thank you for rightfully putting me in my place and telling me it was shit. I won't tell lies to random anons anymore
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>>171543596
damn
ice-cold
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>>171543616
What if it was SJ2, not necessarily the story, but same battle system and dungeon crawling.
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>>171545381
It was like only a year since Final and #FE releases. I hardly believe they could've write something new from the ground within time span this short. I want to believe, but I can't.
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SON OF MAN
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FUCK YOU
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>>171545825
MAN-CHILD
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>>171545936
CLEVER
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>>171545929
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>>171545936
You're gonna be my personal shitposter, kid.
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>>171543596
But it has the best gameplay :^)
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>>171546397
>le best gameplay
A game with 2d battles can't have the best gameplay
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What is wrong with people?
Why my favorite series attracts degenerates so much?
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>>171546493
i dunno you tell me
why toki too
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>>171546657
I really can't help but laugh at this shit. It's hilarious to me that someone drew this unironically.
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>>171546397
he was talking about the plot tho
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>>171543596
What are the differences between "real" Dagda and game Dagda?
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>>171546469
And so, with a simple bait like that, I was able to out you as the actual cancer.
Go back to play FF XV, you unclean scum.
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>>171546998
not him but I can help
>real Dagda is fat, game Dagda is a spooky scary skeleton
>real Dagda is good spirited, game Dagda is angry at everyone
>everyone takes part in fanservice in one way or another, except game Dagda. Meanwhile, real Dagda is the Zeus of Celtic Myth, if you know what I mean
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>>171547381
good thing you'll never know when its me you're talking to :)
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>>171547447
>no grounded penis
This design is shit.
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>>171547532
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>>171547787
Shit meem
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rip
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SMT x Power Rangers
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>>171546493
Can someone explain to me why *ahem "straight" men like muscular women so much? I'm gay but this art somewhat turns me on.

Also >>171546657 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H07zYvkNYL8&ab_channel=lNicrolaxv.2
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What other skill should I use for a DEX Nanashi? Do healing skills scale off mag? Are the shields good in Apocalypse? What stats should I raise other than DEX?
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Fuck, I'm lvl 92 in SMTIVA and I just realized I'm not going to hit 200 Lu before lvl 99. Quick, what should I do? Are there easily farmable Lu incenses?
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>>171553760
Why do you need 200 luck?
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>>171553826
So it would look pretty on the status screen.
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>>171553826
not him but with 200 luck or more every physical skill is guaranteed to crit.
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>>171543854
Your strategy matters more than level. Obviously you have to have enough power to survive her attacks and deal damage back, but I'd say it's doable on War by the time you unlock Twisted Tokyo (after ichigaya, I think).

Make sure you have doping if you do it that early, demons and the ring that resists/bulls charm, and dark attacks on at least two of your party members. Make a demon with luster candy AND dekunda so you don't fall behind in the buff game, make sure someone else has debilitate or maybe one of your dark attackers have antichthon
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>>171553969
That's not true at all. It's not guaranteed until 500 on conflict, and you won't even be able to guarantee a crit on apocalypse even at max
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>>171553696
pls help
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Whats the point of discussing the gameplay here?

Are you guys retarded or what?

'What should I build guyse?', 'Hey, I went Ma, should I kill myself?' fucking Christ, you can finish every game with literally anything, fucking morons, whats the point of asking this shit here every fucking time in the first place?

Its not a fucking Myst-tier puzzle to be able to understand what game wants from you and your stats, grow a pair you fucking idiots goddamit.
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>>171557505
Would you prefer if we discussed the highly intellectual topic of "which waifu would you marry?" instead? Get fucked, wanker.
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>>171557505
They haven't played it yet, so they don't know that the emphasis on your decisions storywise and gameplay wise are played up by retards on other boards and they expect some hardcore jrpg where you need to minmax to stand a chance
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>>171553969
By the way, what the fuck with magical crits? I don't seem to be getting any. Or doesn't it work when you hit the enemy weakness, because I do pretty much every single time.
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>>171557967
Magic is only capable of critting in Apocalypse when you've got the Smirk status.
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>>171557996
Fuck, really? What other use does luck have on a magic build? Should I've just dumped even more points in magic? I'm sitting at about 360+ magic, 200+ agility and 160 luck.
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>>171558083
Enemies will crit less the higher you luck is

Although when it actually matters (in 6th run TT), you'll want 999 all around anyway
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>Wake up sick
>Tfw no dis-poison in real life
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>>171558578
There is. ZOG just doesn't want the goyim using it.
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>>171558782
Fucking unicorn dragons
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>>171546493
>>171546657
One of the things that people remember in Apocalypse was Toki saying lewd things under the influence of Aether, which started the moment she inhaled from the Lust Pot to the climax where Toki turned into Inanna and talked about having Nanashi's kids. Since Japanese are too autistic to understand love is a natural emotion, they blamed the Sumerian Goddess for possessing Toki, and Krishna for impregnating her with his smooth voice talking about making babies.
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>>171560025
what a shitty game
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>>171558312
...there is a point where you NEED to have 999 in all stats?
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IT'S GOOD FOR YOUR BRAINS
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>>171560159
None of the people had the foresight or common sense to see why a pre-teen japanese girl being possessed Inanna, Goddess of Monster-Tier periods was a bad idea.
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>>171560291
Yes
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>>171560291
>all stats
For what purpose?
Are there some bosses immune to almighty spells?
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>>171560291
Twisted Tokyo demons max out at level 999, so good fucking luck without max stats
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>>171535163
The fiends even sound bored when you encounter them in Twisted Tokyo.
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>tarted-up clown

When did the Angels become bantmasters?
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>>171563203
There needs to be a doujin where instead of wearing make-up to look like adults they, in a misguided attempt to become adults, rape Isabeau
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why is smt so lewd?
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>>171564068
What's with Kaneko and dicks?
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>>171563203
Angels were always bantmasters. One of the core principles of Law is being brutally honest even if your opinion hurts other people's feelings.
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Wake up
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>>171572514
Give me 5 more minutes I'm still sleepy
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>>171576189
come on wake up nanashi NANASHI
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How many of you got to Tokyo without ever seeing an SMT IV trailer?
Wow would marketing deny us that euphoria.
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>>171578948
I did. It was such a relief because I expected the whole game to like Mikado with menu based exploring.
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>>171578948
I did. When I first saw the city and heard the music I came. Then I came again when I heard the hunter association music, it was just so perrfect and I had the volume all the way up so the music hit hard which was exactly how I imagine someone from Mikado would experience it.
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Playing SMT IV, going phys. I know Desperate Hit exists, but I was wondering what skill can do the most average damage with a phys/shot earring: Nihil Claw (or Madness Nails, if it has an advantage) , Myriad Arrows, or Riot Gun.
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>>171582225
Myriad Arrows
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Hello I need advice.

SMT has since a long time looked interesting to me so I decided to buy SMTIV. It was a lot of fun until I got to the overworld. It was so confusing that I spent more time trying to find my way than doing anything else. Eventually I gave up and bought Persona 4. I finished it but it wasn't the same.

Can anyone recommend a SMT game with an overworld map that isn't as confusing?
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In IV:A, is the Hazmat armor set worth the money?
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>>171583982
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>>171583982
Nocturne, but I think you should try IV again. The map isn't that bad imo.
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>>171584096
No armor is worth the money
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>>171583982
Apocalypse, Soul Hackers and Strange Journey have better maps
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>>171584531
>SJ
Uhhhhhh....
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>>171584129
I'll look into Nocturne then. Maybe I'll give SMTIV another attempt.

>>171584531
Thanks. Strange Journey looks cool.
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>>171583982
>poor space perception
Are you a girl?
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>>171578948
My first experience with an Atlus game was EO4, which has an overworld but is mostly menu stuff for NPCs. So I thought SMT4 would be the same way.

I was pleasantly surprised to get to Tokyo. I previously wasn't too keen on the game up until that point but after I reached Tokyo I played nonstop til the finish, played through it twice more to max out the compendium.
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Is there a reason why Tatsuya Sudou it's called nearly identical as Tatsuya Suou?
I'm at the GOLD dungeon in P2:EP and still haven't figured if it has some symbolic value or anything
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>>171478589
Out of the two that are in English, Dark Version has more challenging battles and a better plot. Light is kind of a cakewalk.
>>
Hoy
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>>171460447
Got me at the voice acting. IV had the best voice acting of a localized game I've heard since Kid Icarus
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>>171523761
Merkabah has not sinned and so is not embarrassed by nudity
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>>171543596
>"why you suck" speech
Don't do bonds, kids
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>>171539547
>tfw you're gonna wake up tomorrow and there'll be more than just hoyposting tomorrow
Feels good
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>>171589573
Meant itt instead of the second tomorrow.
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>>171589208
But why would YHWH want to have a Baphomet like creature shill for him- A creature that distorts gender? Makes no sense tbqh.
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>>171578948
I played through p4, p3, and about 1/3 of nocturne before playing smt4. I had no idea that the series is almost always set in tokyo, so I throught all of smt4 was going to be that era. The entire game blew me away with the mystique that they managed to create even though It was just tokyo. It's probably my favorite smt game just because of the world the crafted and the way the story was told (also bomb ass soundtrack)
>>
is it even worth it to buy persona 5 next month when the inevitable crimson mask edition will be announced this year?
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>>171590183
Jonathan is not Merkabah, Jonathan fused with archangels to become Merkabah. Gender does not apply so easily to angels, I guess
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>>171591712
>Johnathan was a woman the whole time
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>>171592124
I always thought he was from the cover and considered wanking to him once sfter realizing he had a dick
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Filthy ones, don't talk about based johnny like that.
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Soon
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>>171594575
6-7 more hours

Don't let me down, based memelook
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>>171594575
soon.
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>>171594575
>>171594679
>>171594702
what
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ITS HAPPENING
CHECK THE WEBSITE
PERSONA 1 REMAKE ON 3DS
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>>171597908
http://shin-megamitensei.jp
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Fuck yes, Persona 4 Platinum for the 3DS.
My dick can't handle this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsYesHR5xXM
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>>171599636
What if it is just a Persona game?
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>>171600185
Better be Eternal Punishment again with a confirmed localization then.
I want to play the extra PSP content in English
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HOLY SHIT
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WHOA
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>>171604398
>it's true
HOLY FUCK
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>>171604398
WHAT THE FUCK
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Does anyone have an image of Flynn doing that snake smile?
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Anyone tried to emulate Apocalypse on Citra? I just learned this emulator existed and Apocalypse came out after I sold my 3DS.
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>>171604398
Devil Children successor?
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>>171605463
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>>171604398
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>>171611224
Nakajima's story changed my life forever.
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>>171611521
we were talking about his alignment on here once

we came to the conclusion that he starts off chaotic and becomes neutral but didn't he let the demons out because he was sick of the strong preying on the weak?
>>
BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THE LITTLE COCKSUCKER
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>>171611607
He let out the demons so they would punish all the school bullies because he was sick of their elitism. And given that he was in a school for gifted students, they were probably more unbearable than the average bully.

It may be silly, but for that reason he is a very memorable protagonist to me.
He fucks everything up, he owns up to it and stops the immediate danger, and apparently dies in the books.

Megami Tensei even has some sort of secret and obscure japanese fanbase who seem to be really fond of the books and videogames, and have made all sorts of doujinshi, fanart and crappy fansites about it.
That really took me by surprise, I never expected Megami Tensei to be such a cult classic for some people.
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>>171612024
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>Horologium
I want this ride to end
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Why is YHVH always portrayed as an antagonist in SMT, with exception to Devil Survivor?
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>>171617341
because he's based on the old testament god, who was pretty much the antagonist there
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>>171617341
Because Old Testament God is an asshole.
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>>171613963
Horologium is super easy compared to Grus.

You can do it, Anon.
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>>171617390
>>171617454
But Old Testament God was just a stern father figure who tried to raise humanity the right way. He knew what he was doing the entire time. Besides, there are bigger asshole gods than YHVH like Zeus, Inanna/Ishtar, Baal, Moloch, and Lilith.
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>>171618207
>Lilith
>God
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>>171618421
It takes god level courage to refuse to sleep with Adam because you don't want him on top, and then fuck off while YHVH's watching.
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>>171618207
some gods were villified and turned into evil demons by christianity and that's not their original form, others are still evil in smt. they could put anyone as the final boss but ultimately it's their setting and abrahamic religions are popular
>He knew what he was doing the entire time.
nice try lawfag
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SMT x Fate/Grand Order x Pokemon GO
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>>171620068
>mobage
:puke:
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>>171620313
But it will make money. Don't you want papa Kaneko to make money?
>>
How come Atlus doesn't just make a SMTxPersona crossover game?

It's the only way SMT will ever sell anyway.
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>>171619526
But it was people of their own free will who chose to demonize the other gods, convert to Christianity and then prop up YHVH as their nation god. The other gods failed to do their duty of uniting the nation and centralizing it's power into something productive, so they had to go. Now YHVH is being demonized by people so they can prop up Stephen and Tokyo Goddess as the one true god.
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>>171620514
>SMTxPersona
But Persona is SMT.
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>>171620514
>SMTxPersona
But SMT is Persona.
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>>171620068
/smtg/ x Lainchan
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>>171620927
this would be based
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>>171620609
>>171620656
Fuck off and go back to searching for jobs, John Hardin.
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https://twitter.com/meme_look/status/844001650037538816
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>>171621281
IT'S TIME
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>>171452386
Just started Strange Journey after I finished Apocalypse. Am I in for fun?
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>>171621281
>radiant historia
JUST
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>>171621724
Filename.
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>>171621805
Oh dear Christ. I couldn't stand YHVH's dimension near the end.
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>>171622038
The SJ maps actually make sense, though. apart from teleporter mazes
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>>171622038
Don't worry, it's not as bad as it looks. There's actually shit to do in Eridanus.
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>>171622038
But you see, unlike YHVH's dimension, the people making the dungeon didn't just threw a pile of shit together and is actually designed.

also mastema
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>>171621281
>Radiant Memestoria
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>>171621281
>this site can't be reached
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>>171621281
hol up
we are getting a sequel to radiant historia?
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>>171621281
literally trash
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>>171564879
>>171564068
I don't see what's wrong with dicks.
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>>171627265

of course you wouldn't, you raging faggot
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>>171627508
>>171627265
>tfw gender and sexuality are nothing in the realm of YHVH
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Through dick, unity.
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I want to die being smothered in Tiamat's titties.
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>>171625347
literally deserving of death
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>>171627767
Why is he so handsome?
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>>171629094
He looks great on suits.
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>studying for midterm ODE exam
>planning on staying up all night
>wanting to take intermittent breaks to play some SMT
>know I'm not gunna study if I do
All work and no play...
>>
So the 3DS proyect is related to Radiant Historia?
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>>171630743
There is no 3ds project anon.
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Why everybody loves Radiant Historia so much?
>le intelligible JRPG protag
That's it?
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>>171630743
no
i will shoot up a school if i dont get my tendies
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>>171631947
That's pretty much the case with all JRPGs, people simply like to pretend that their favorite obscure game is the greatest thing ever.
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>>171632271
Calling FBI right now, you're going to jail mate.
>>
Approaching the endgame in SH. Should I just fuse a few powerful demons or should I grind more? I'm only level 61.
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>>171630743
No.
This radiant historia project is more or less unrelated to the 3DS SMT project.
I would think that if it was, they would have updated the SMT homepage as well.
Hopefully we'll get something along with RH in famitsu this thursday.
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>>171627929
>she kills you because of her nature as a demon
>become ghost
>die again
>no more tiddies ever
Damn shame the demons like to eat us.
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>>171627929
My end-goal is to get good at drawing and make porn of every demonfu.
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>>171634295
i want to get ate by a cute demon desu
or any demon desu
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>>171634295
>Not just fusing your own and then ordering it to fuck you
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>>171634561
>>171634484

>try to r34 megami tensei
>it's mostly persona fag shit
Not to be a snob, but I wish filtering this shit was simple.
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/smtg/ on suicide watch
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>>171635025
Persona's fine, it's just the fans we hate.
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>>171635025
>This is THE JRPG
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>>171635025
Can't wait to play it for free on my pc
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>>171635025
>This is the JRPG
Its a fucking dungeoncrawler, Jen. Get the fuck out.
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>>171635619
I bet they said the same shit about FFXV when they reviewed it.
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>>171635025
Oh yeah this comes out soon. I haven't even finished all the games I bought these last three months. This year has been fantastic so far.
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>>171635025
>Playstation Magazine
Totally not biased rite.
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>>171635025
I doubt it's better than Persona 4 desu
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>>171621281
So he didn't meqn the 3DS project. Fug
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>>171637684
>I doubt it's better than absolute fucking trash
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>>171621281
Sounds like a Radiant Historia remake with a new story path kinda like Devil Survivor 2: Record Breaker.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeJF3fcj3Hs
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So how do you guys feel about Pierce being able to bypass even repel now?
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>>171642417
>Pierce being able to bypass even repel
Stop memeing, its not.
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>>171642417
It's stupid, yet another thing final does to make your choices meaningless

Now it doesn't matter if you have null, drain, or repel, and you don't have to consider your enemies weaknesses anymore, and almighty is even more useless now.
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>>171642823
It does though
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>>171642417
Unbalanced mess.
Karn cancels are pure garbage.
I can't believe people calling Final's gameplay good with this kind of shit.
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>>171643041
>why can't I just spam *karns and win the fight?
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>>171643157
>why can't I just press the buttons and win the game?
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>>171643157
>grind is good guys!
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>>171643157
>why can't I just spam the most MP-consuming spells in the game for this asshole to completely remove from every member of the party by exchange to 1 turn icon?

Woah, sounds fair, right!
>>
>Radiant Historia remake for 3ds

Holy shit
>>
Is this game even good?
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>>171643563
>MP mattering in final
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>>171643773
>mp mattering after you get mp drain in any game
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>>171643563
So what do you prefer? Almighty spam? Because that was the alternative.

The Karn spells trivialize the majority of the fights.

Give access to them too early and they break the game.
Give them too late and they are useless.
Give them somewhere in the middle and you only get to use them a handful of times.

Something needed to be done.
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>>171640392
I was right!

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/03/21/radiant-historia-perfect-chronology-announced-nintendo-3ds/
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>>171643857
If you hate Karn spells so much then ask developers to remove them completely, because in Final karnspells became a fucking waste of slot, worse than common Almighty spells, Antichton aside.

Perfect solutions:
- make karn-cancelation spells single target
- if karn is used make boss spam some ma-almighty bullshit spell, which is more powerful than elemental attack, but won't give boss a bonus icon and/or fucking smirk

You're still wasting your turns on mana draining/chakra using at some point, so you will be forced to use actually limited amount of mirrors by protag/somebody else. Its still costs a shitload of mana and far from trivializing.
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>>171644201
>siliconera
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>>171644202
>- make karn-cancelation spells single target

So the boss only gets to hit 1 guy and still lose all his other turns as he gets his shit reflected by the other 3.

>- if karn is used make boss spam some ma-almighty bullshit spell

So Almighty spam, just like before.

Great solutions.
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>>171644201
I just bought the original off Amazon and haven't played it yet. Fuck.
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Devil Survivor 3 just got announced too!
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>>171644305
>So the boss only gets to hit 1 guy and still lose all his other turns as he gets his shit reflected by the other 3.
Make AI better, make him spending all his icons on single target alone, which can be more harmful in a way, but at least won't wipe out players out of possibilities to fight back next turn.
>So Almighty spam, just like before.
Whats wrong with almighty spam, enlighten me?
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>>171644392
thats me
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>>171644469
>which can be more harmful in a way

Oh no I have to spend 1 out of my like 8 turns to heal/revive one demon, may as well reload my save state already.

>Whats wrong with almighty spam, enlighten me?

It makes using the Karn spells pointless and damages you even more than if you were to get hit by a piercing elemental. It's nowhere near a "perfect solution".
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>>171591350
The additions for Golden were pretty worthless and made an easy game even more casual.

I don't trust Atlus enough for them to make a worthwhile expansion that doesn't consists of simply adding more SoL anime scenes and waifufag pandering.
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>>171644737
>1 out of my like 8 turns
Good luck debuffing, buffing, desmirking, healing, reviving and damaging at the same time with your whole party being on the verge of death because "lmao dark souls of persona amirite"
>and damages you even more than if you were to get hit by a piercing elemental
Hardly any almighty spell doing more damage than elemental spells.
>It makes using the Karn spells pointless
Just as karn-cancellation in general.
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>>171644836
I got through all of golden with just Izanagi
easy street
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>>171644836
>adding more SoL anime scenes and waifufag pandering.

So great additions for any Persona fan?
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>>171644836
but think about persona 3 FES and P3P. Mask edition could be like those.
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>>171643639
Made by people who did P3, SJ and Nocturne so yeah it's pretty good.
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>>171645106
That sounds cool and like a lot of work.
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>>171647730
It wasn't hard at all, I've been considering going through with just Pixie or Slime.
>>
5 days
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>>171648435
I've been thinking of playing NG+ on P4G. Maybe I'll try to keep my Izanagi like you did.
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>>171635086
>we
speak for yourself
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>>171651335
>wuz
>>
Atlus will hold a livestream to detail their 2017 titles on March 26, including Radiant Historia: Perfect Chronology.
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>>171502960
Good recommendations.
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>>171651335
You are me, and I am you.
>>
>>171655085
I don't think you want to be me buddy.
>>
Wake up
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>>171658501
I'm pounding on the door.
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>>171659461
I wont hurt you anymore.
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>>171644836
I don't really see how P4 could be developed any further. The main cast were a bunch of normal teenagers suffering from normal teen problems like being bored of living in a small town, not wanting to take over the family business, shopping district struggling because everyone buys their shit at the new big box store.

Persona 4's problem was that it didn't take theses flaws to their natural conclusion. Someone like Yosuke and Yukiko would most likely move out of Inaba to live and work in the city where there's more jobs and opportunities than living out in the sticks.
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>>171660331
It's been quite a while, but I feel like P4 (maybe P3 too, really don't remember) was more about accepting problems rather than trying to fix them.
>>
ONE MORE
>>
GOD
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>>171660569
The P4 cast feel more like they are in denial over their problems than accepting them. It's very noticeable in Yosuke, Yukiko, and Rise's S.Links.

At least in P3 the Devil S.Link accepted that he was an asshole, but too based to be a good guy.
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>>171661120
I never bothered getting far enough in Rise's SLink so I'll take your word for it.

I suppose the acceptance and/or denial is because the games are still made in Japan in the end, what with I've heard of the fact they apparently like to pretend mental illnesses don't exist.
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>>171661497
>mental illness
Also by that I mean problems therapy could fix in general. Realized that might be quite unclear.
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>>171661594
>therapy solving anything
Therapy is a huge scam m8
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I'm starting to be fed up with Soul Hackers. I'm in the VR haunted mansion, which is the shittiest dungeon of the game so far because of the stupid teleporters, and I can't defeat Erika. I have a problem more with her spamming bufula than her using question box, actually. And she's by herself, she doesn't summon any demons.
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>>171661120
>Missing the point o Rise and Larry social link this hard
Their problem was the huge expectations others put on them causing them to stress and run away rather than they not wanting to do it. It's pretty relatable to every medical school student ever
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>>171662206
subjective
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>>171662391
Nevermind, I kept losing because I thought I put the right equipment to Nemissa and the protagonist even though I didn't. Glad I didn't sell the insulated clothes.
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Guess the game.

Did they hired some fatlus staff, the dungeoning is pretty much same as SMT4.
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>>171664391
I always thought they took some cues from SMT4 with Fates with the whole pick a side
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>>171664952
Dungeon gameplay is somewhat close to naraku.

But well, #FE also uses the same dungeon mechanics too. I guess they liked to use again in a game. Honestly it's better than have random encounters at every 5 steps.
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>>171665506
but anon random encounters show just how hardcore you are
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GUYS, WHAT IF WE ARE THE DEMONS?
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>>171664391
Fuck off back to /feg/, trash.
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3DS project gets announced on Sunday. let's talk about that.
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>>171667973
3DS is cool, I love my 3DS.
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>>171667234
Really made me think
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Post demons you would own as pets
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>>171670589
I'd feed him some lightly salted chips.
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>>171670589
Go pikachu!
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>>171670589
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>>171667973
Does it?
I find it very strange that they won't make a separate stream for 25th Anniversary of SMT. I think they planned celebration of some sort.
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Why so slow.
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>>171681215
Dead series
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>tfw returned after visiting 5 billion, 670 million worlds and /smt/ general is still dead
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>>171684005
There is only one way to save this general.
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>>171684005
What's there to talk about?
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>>171684598
the 3ds game.
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>>171685116
I beat it on the Bonds ending yesterday and started SJ. But I mentioned that higher up. Then we all discussed dicks and titties.
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>>171685274
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>>171684005
>tfw using 5.67 billion hands to shitpost
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>>171670589
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or we could actually talk about smt lore. why Zelda General get to talk about interconnected timeline and split universes while we just meme demons and hoy boys for 750 posts, rinse, repeat.
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>>171686238
This is your eternal punishment, fitting for humans' filth.
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>>171686238
Actually one question that has been bugging me, is the demon summoning program being written in Megami Tensei 1 the one that is propogated across all SMT universes? The way lore shit is written makes it sound like that is the sole reason everything is fucking insane now.
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>>171686238
What's his endgame?
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>>171686850
To win his bet with Nyarlathotep
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>SMT IV
>Chaos Ending
>yeah let's make a world where everyone is free and do whatever they want
>
>just kidding you're the king
What was the point? All this talk about wild freedom and than Lucy himself tells you a king is needed?
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>>171687228
Dagda is a fucking hack. His whole rant about wanting humans to be truly free is undercut by the fact that he wants one human to be truly free and have no friends.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVhAdOURUPU
Why is the sound test of Nocturne better than its entire OST?
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why aren't there any black people in the smt universe?
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why aren't there any female protagonists who fight with their feet in the smt universe?
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>>171687581
Whatchoo talkin bout, nigga
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>>171687581
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>>171687864
Um, hello?
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muh old protagonist
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>>171687581
the only black people in tokyo are Nigerians trying to sell you drugs in alleys or drag you into seedy bars.
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>>171686680
No, Megami Tensei I and II only directly connect to each other, not to any other game in the series. In SMT I Steven tells you that he wrote his version of the program after being crippled by a demon, and besides, the demons got out because of experimentation with teleportation technology in that game, not because of the program. In fact I'm pretty sure Megami Tensei is the only game where the program was responsible for demons entering the world, it's been via another mechanism in every other game (nukes opening a rift in MTII, teleportation experiments in SMT, Vortex World in Nocturne, Schwarztwelt in SJ, etc.).
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>>171686231
I never noticed he had a snake tail.
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>>171693325
He's Nue. Japanese chimera.
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>>171694096
who nue
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>>171695429
Play Nioh.
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>>171695429
japanese snake tiger monkey
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SMT x Rune Factory
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>>171687581
Do wiggers count?
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Praise Him.
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>>171670589

golden chariot with penis monster

fun and useful pet
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>>171697349
What a magnificent schlong
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Heres a good one

SMT x DoTA
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>>171688071
theres no way to make her barefoot so whats the point
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>>171686238
Hoys are bumps. You complained about this in an older thread, start a discussion yourself if you want one so badly
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>>171697241
>cielo
>wigger
I didn't know jamaicans were wiggers
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>>171703905
that wasn't me last thread. that comment in itself was to get a little surge of posts going cuz we were pretty dead. it worked.
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atlus gonna have a stream the 26th discussing upcoming games

expect 3ds project, or riot
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>>171706014
but he aint jamaican dough
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How do you go back to other JRPGs after SMT? I feel like most of them are really boring and easy, with difficulty levels only making them longer and more boring. What are series (or games) that really manage to have a decent combat system?
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>>171711938
Chrono Trigger
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>>171712950
That's a funny joke, but now seriously.

CT is fun, but the combat system is shallow and simplistic, focusing on flashy attacks most of the time.
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>>171711938
Etrian Odyssey.
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>>171711938
violated heroine
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>>171700690
wasn't there swimsuit DLC or somesuch?
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>>171713032
Just like this game.
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>>171715747
What game?
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>>171716623
shin megami tensei

there's nothing complex here
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>>171718458
try playing SJ
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>>171688071
She fights with her legs, so it doesn't count.
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>>171670589
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>>171720671
waifu=pet
??????????????????????????
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>>171672728
skeleton=pet
???????????????????
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>>171720671
but id rather be the pet in this case
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>>171719170
I have. there's nothing complex there.
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>>171721609
Are you saying I can't have a skeleton as a pet?
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>>171721352
Waifu, pet, same thing.
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>JRPGs
>complex
You pick a move and watch it happen. There's nothing complex about them in general. If you don't know what skill/ability/spell/whatever to use in different situations, then you're retarded.
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>>171722539
>Chess
>complex
You pick a move and watch it happen. There's nothing complex about it in general. If you don't know what move to use in different situations, then you're retarded.
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>>171722704
Exactly.
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>>171722704
Chess is more like an SRPG though, not a JRPG. Placement, attack range, etc. matter.
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DeSu > Mainline
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>>171724229
Heck, I like DeSu1 more than SMT1, 2 and 4.
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>beat normal game in SH
>venture into Extra Dungeon
>get through only one dungeon because -karn spam is broken
>try another dungeon
>get fucking floored by Shiva

Where am I supposed to grind?
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Playing SMTIVA and just beat Vishnu-Flynn.
How much harder is *record scratch*? I've noticed that some of my demons just don't have enough health to survive almighty AoE spam.
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>>171736005
Good luck if your demons have sub-900 HP
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>>171736147
Well, fuck. I thought my Izanami was perfect, but she has only like 500 HP. Guess I'll swap her for Mitra Buddha after I level up or something.
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>>171736213
Farm HP Incense and use Doping.
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>>171736213
Dope her up
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>>171736290
>>171736294
My boy Navarre takes care of that, but it still doesn't put her above 900 obviously. But then again, she's only level 80-something. Maybe she might get more HP if I level up her all the way to 95+. But I don't think she'll get up there before I reach the final boss. And I don't wanna grind.
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>>171736465
>My boy Navarre takes care of that
We'll see about that

Don't ask more questions, the more unprepared you are, the more fun it is
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>>171721352
You innocent child.
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>>171736606
Are you saying fucking *record scratch* gonna rob me of my support members?
Well, I have plenty of demons with Luster Candy and Debilitate, but I don't think I fused anything with Doping lately.
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>>171736693
I'm not saying anything, but I'd fuse Samael. He's great for the dungeon and can learn doping naturally
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>>171736290
>>171736693
Doping is dope
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>>171736737
Samael is a fucking beast in this game, yeah. Unlike pretty much any other megaten I've played up until this point. But he also needs my current top demons to be fused. And I'm really, really short on skill slots.
How bad is YHVH when it comes to status effects? I've been sticking both Null Mind and Null Nerve on every demon I can for the past ten levels or so.
I could free up some slots if he doesn't spam status effects much, or if I could fuse a demon with Salvation. Vanilla IV was much more generous when it came to op skills. In that game I had Debilitate since like level 40.
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>>171736875
It's more fun if you don't know 60% of the boss fight in advance

are you on bonds? if so, get ready for cringe
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>>171736983
Honestly Dagda was way more cringeworthy than the power of friendship. Literally "crawling in my skin".
Also, I don't like surprises.
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>>171737196
>Honestly Dagda was way more cringeworthy than the power of friendship
For some reason, he becomes almost endearing after the split. Trust me, bonds will be much more cringeworthy
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Is it me or Nihil Claw in SMT IV is unreable as hell? I heard it's better than single-hit skills, but so far I'm having more success with Berseker God and Mortal Jihad.
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>>171737315
Up your luck/agility. I did a physical playthrough in IV and almost never missed. 3 dex/1 agi/1 luck. Multi-hits have better damage potential because the heavy/severe attacks only boost the fixed based damage, but in the endgame most of the damage comes from stat scaling, and it's the same for single hit attacks and every hit in multi-hit attacks.
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>get bored of TT
>decide to resume main story
>get to 6th floor of the egg where dagda goes "ok pick your route"
>save and pick to kill everyone because the muh bonds and moralfaggotry have pinched my last nerve
>Navarre breaks all my items
God fucking damnit, I was saving these almighty battle plans for metatron when i unlock him after completing the game. Does this mean i have to do the persona route first if i want to not lose all the incenses and battle plans I've saved up for ng+?
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>>171737532
Yep, gotta do the friendship and rainbows route.
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>>171737456
My demons with Nihil Claw always end up hitting only once, for some reason. I have Myriad Arrows on my MC and I always get 3-4 hits.
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>>171737532
>save and pick to kill everyone because the muh bonds and moralfaggotry have pinched my last nerve
>Navarre breaks all my items
That only happens if you're inconsistent with your previous choices. I.e. you're trying to fit in too hard with the edgy teen mainline SMT crowd, while in truth you were doing the friendship is magic Persona playthrough all along.
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>>171737643
Because demons have shit stat spread.
Demons in general will do much, much, much less damage than MC. Fuse demons primarily for support with buffs, debuffs and healing magic.
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>>171737659
Literally what choices? I cant remember a single one other than the one where odin tells you to break the seal, and it didn't matter because dagda just uses the force to make you do it anyway
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>>171737740
The choices might not have mattered for the plot, but they mattered if you didn't want to lose your items.
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>>171737807
Like the dialogue options where i can either tell a party member "You're doing great. Gold star." or "Shut up and suck my dick"? Why cant i not entrust my items to Navarre in the first place? We don't even use that asshole in battle cause he uses my items without asking

tldr REEEEE just let me fuse metatron now
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>>171737974
>not using the single best partner in the entire game
You deserved everything bad that happened to you.
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>>171738024
Is he really that good? I swapped him out the first time he used an attack mirror against a random encounter, what makes him good?
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>>171738208
Buffs/debuffs is the most important thing in the game and he uses those with unlimited MP. Free 20% extra damage or defense is massive. Better than anything any other partner can offer.
And I only really use him for bosses, when the assist partners actually matter. For random encounters I usually use Toki because she can actually instantly take out enemies before my turn starts, to save some MP. Especially good vs horde enemies.
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>>171738393
I never use toki because its faster for me to just hit them up with antichthon/andalusia than it is for toki's animation and text to finish and then pick off the remnants

MP isn't really a problem when it completely regenerates by the time i reach the next battle

Honestly, i prefer mediarama from isabeau so i can use LC myself
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Why do we have 2 types of physical damage boosted by 2 different stats and than 7 different types of damage that go with the Magic stat?
Can't they merge Dexterity and Strenght and split Physical into something like Strike and Slash, so Phys demons and MCs have three options at once instead of just one?
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>>171739161
That already happened though. In the spin-offs. Another reason why mainline is inferior.
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>>171738662
As much as I love Navarre, Isabeau is way better late game, just use her.
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20 episode DeSu anime focusing on Yuzu's route with OVAs for Saints and King of Demons.

Are you in or out?
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>>171739552
Maybe. Studio?
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>>171739235
>mfw Persona 3 had 3 types of Physical damage and tons of option for Physical demons, but Persona 4 only had one
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>>171739586
I actually can't think of a studio that could do a faithful adaptation without disappointing me. Could you recommend one?
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>>171739552
Out, i already played the games and the animations don't generate any lewds anyway. what would this have to offer?
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>>171739552
>Yuzu route
nah
Atsuro route, sure
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>>171739653
>Persona 5 has Physical and Ranged
>Ranged has FOUR skills
>Meanwhile there's a Magic version of Hassou Tobi and an Almighty Amp
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>new comfy Atlus stream announced

oh shit nice
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>>171740221
Yuzu's Route is the only "neutral" route with an 8th day though.
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Zelenin a shit! SHIT!
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>>171747252
>Zelenin
This triggers me.
It should be conjugated as Zelenina because she's female.
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what happened to the 3DS general?
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>>171748487
It's dead. Just like the system.
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>>171747462
Get lost cykablyad.
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>>171748953
Else suffer what consequence?
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>>171739552
DeSu1 is shit, I would like to watch Record Breaker though.
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>>171749086
Shta?
>>
Fuck man the music in Devil Survivor is jamming. It even got my roommate dancing.
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>>171749262
With tastes like this you two should marry and stop reproducing desu
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>>171749262
Make sure he doesn't break your 3DS.
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>>171749356
he's probably breakdancin', so they got some taste
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>>171749707
That was my joke!
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>>171749262
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n-bcvbHNTk

It's a shame the sequel's music wasn't as good.
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Nanashi wake up
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>>171752860
Lay off the makeup.
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>>171752860
FUCK you
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Bought Nocturne and played it until the first sve point, the kamera controls and movement overall are HORRIBLE, anyone else got a problem with that?
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>>171749806
Is this what you mean?
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>>171752860
Shut up, I'm dead so I'll sleep like the dead.
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>>171670589
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>>171452386F
Finally got around to finishing pic related. Although both MTs seemed kind of primitive compared to SMT1+2, I really enjoyed them. Wasnt difficult either, more annyoing than anything (encounter rate, energy drain).

Didnt understand MT2's plot. Was MT1 retconned or was the sequel just a different story? The devil buster thing was kind of confusing, almost like DDS1 where the first game took place in a virtual world while the sequel was in the physical world.
Also, if you go chaos you're kind of pissing on Nakajima and Yumiko's hard work from the previous game.
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ded thred
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Should I buy DeSu 2 or Rune Factory 4?
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>>171768715
I liked Rune Factory 4 more.
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>>171768715
>3ds
>buying
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How do I beat the Cerberus in SMT If?
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>>171770804
git gud
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>>171761208
MT2 takes place after MT1. The Devil Busters game was made by Nakajima himself, and he based it off of his adventure in MT1.
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This is my cute sister, Asahi. Say something nice about her.
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>>171773569
tell her to lay of the make up
she looks like a tarted up whore when she wears it
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>get desu 2 on sale
>turns out it's 3.5 gb
Dammit, and here I thought the 4 GB SD card I got for DKCR (Club Nintendo) was going to be all I'd ever need.
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>>171772729
Ah ok that makes sense
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>>171741328
Are you ready for the SMT HD game to be revealed as an idol game all along?
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>>171776529
It's an idol game but all the idols are demons.
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>>171774090
What's worse is that transferring save files is tedious bullshit at best, too. And you can't delete old games but keep the saves.
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>>171747252
kys, chaoscuck
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>>171761208
their hard work was already pissed on by the entire world getting nuked anyway

but yeah devil busters was programmed by nakajima
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Hoy bump
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Lucifer was right.
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>>171788264
Which one?
Because most were very, very wrong
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>>171788264
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Why do we continue to suffer?
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hey guys, I just picked up SMT4A
I only got the white ending in 4
am I good to go already or should I try and do the true end before starting 4A?
also what do I gain from linking the save data?
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>>171754557
The camera controls are pretty annoying but I got used to it eventually. You are using l/r to rotate it and not just a second stick right? As for movement it stays horrible. I'm like 30 hours in and I still can't walk a straight line
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>>171794329
Hold L/R at the same time and you'll walk straight.
>>
Mudo.
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>>171794305
kek. You didnt actually beat IV.
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>>171794329
>>171794502
Hold O. You'll walk in a straight line and if you tap L or R, you'll do a 90 degree turn.
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>>171799437
Yes he did.
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>>171801041
Interesting, never knew that one. Does it work in DDS?
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>>171801303
Not same anon but since DDS uses the same...well almost everything from Nocturne it should still work there.
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In the Corridor of Time dungeons (Not the extra game), is there any good loot aside from the Hinokatsuguchi and the bugged Soma chest in Corridor 5?
>>
Mudoon
>>
>Playing DeSu2: RB
>Fight the bonus boss Tico challenge
>Doing well but die like a bitch to Megidoladyne
>Totally forgot to equip any anti-almighty shit
>Decide to run from the battle
>Save since I gained like 10 levels and do some fusing and prepping for the fight
>Go back
>Fight isn't there
It's not fucking fair.
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Now's not the time to be dead.
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Have a nice wheeeeeeeeeeee
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>>171816852
was it autism?
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>>171794305
You chose the worst possible ending, you lazy shit.
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>>171776632
Are the demons cute girls
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>>171818434

Part of me enjoying Soul Hackers was the prospect of making a waifu battalion loyal to me so I could make them kill everything while I rewarded them with sake and for Nemissa, the best equipment. If they, for whatever reason, failed, I would step in with the Emperor Sword.

None of this came to fruition except for the Emperor Sword part because I didn't understand fusion too well early on. Nemissa pretty much did all the damage in boss fights because I set her on the path that gave her the Almighty spells.
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>>171644392
No, this is Soul Hackers 2, anon.
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Haven't been in these threads since they were on /v/. HOW ARE YOU FUCKERS DOING
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>>171824552
We're all old and tired.
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>>171824552
SMTG PHASE: DEAD
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>>171819520
>Soul Hackers

Is this game as bad as people made it out to be?
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>>171824552
DON'T SCREAM, NANASHI IS SLEEPING
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>>171825057
DID HE KILL HIS FRIENDS YET
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Hey guys, Why is this allowed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiZ30j59200
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>>171825880
LAW side looks glorious as fuck.
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>>171828950
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>tfw you fuse so hard only almighty does damage
Is it considered cheating to practice what is essentially the fusion variant of eugenics?
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>>171828950
Is there a decent way to play SMT I and II on me Android device?
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>>171817408
well it was a blind playthrough and I made the choices as I'd make
now I'm doing the other three endings
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DREAM OF BUTT-FLY
ALWAYS LIKE A DREAM
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>>171833663
Use Orden's patch on I and Aeon's patch on II, then transfer the SFC files to your phone. Get Snes9x EX+ app through app store.
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>>171834195
You'd choose to end everything in the known universe?
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>>171834330
if I were a knight of the kingdom mikado in the post apocalyptic tokyo and subjected to the machinations of the YHVH? Yeah I suppose so.
I like the roleplay in my games
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>>171834593
So in your roleplaying the MC had no good memories in that world and felt like the most logical outcome was to just get rid of everything?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im2yCikKIIk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJjUbiZPBJM
Which one did you prefer, /smtg/?
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>>171835148
I like resets instrumental more than soul survive, but comparing those two Soul survive wins.
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>>171835051
you know where the game starts m8
and I thought that letting the cycle continue was making the world much worse than just ending it - philosophically it made sense in the same way fearing non-existence doesn't.
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>>171496952
The SMT IV manga are both really good.
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>>171834593
So you think death is better than having to farm crops? Lazy shit.
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>>171825038

I liked it more than I should have because of the negotiation.
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>>171825038
It's old so many babies dislike it.

The game is obviously not perfect. But it is a pretty good RPG.
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>>171837439
>death
nah
not existing at all over being an insignificant pawn played by a cruel demiurge? more like it
I mean playing with gods the only winning move is not to play at all
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>>171825038
Its playable, but it has more or less no story, uninteresting villains, horrible level design in some areas, and unbalanced mechanics. So its not for everyone.
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>>171831470
You mean that your demons are immune to everything else?

Some bosses are especially designed to be extra punishing if that's the case.
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>>171835148
Soul Survive is a slightly better song, but Reset makes more sense for the setting.
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Hurry up and die.
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>>171842028
No
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Howdy.
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>>171821680
Devil Hackers!
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>>171835354
You do know what the White are, right? They're manifestations of human despair, as opposed to demons which are made from human desire. They even fucking say they are the reason why the events of SMT4 took place since they built the Yamato Perpetual Reactor.

By choosing the White ending, you're giving into despair and letting everything you've done go to waste all because some humans think the Great Will/YHVH abandoned them. Instead of even trying to fight to give people peace, freedom, or hope, you instead give them despair and emptiness with the illusion that that's what's best for them

There's a reason why the White ending is also referred to as the true bad ending, bud
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUIFCPMFmpY
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Which demons learn fucking SALVATION in this game? I'm lvl 96 and I still haven't seen any.
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>>171846168
Krishna. Not a joke btw. You can get him first time through, too. Just revisit his balls.
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>>171846238
Alright then. No others?
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>>171846278
eh, salvation is not as good in Apoc anyway
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>>171846354
How come? Isn't it still Mediarahan+status removal? Or does it just cost too much?
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>>171846413
Yes, but you need to be Smirking for the status removal to work, which is just fucking retarded.
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>>171846479
Well, fuck. I guess I'll have to stick with putting Null Nerve+Mind on every demon.
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Three days.
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>>171845478
really?
well if you interpret it this way I suppose it makes sense. It was a pretty depressing solution but it seemed kinda inevitable at the time.
This time I'm going for either law or chaos and then I'll try my best for the true ending
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>>171846672
but will it feature dante?
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>>171849069
It says featuring Dante right there.
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>>171849102
oh shit right
I'm bough then
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I want to fuck Baofu!
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>>171851029
You're filth.
So the mystic script says.
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>>171846672

>featuring rebooted Dante

fuck that shit
>>
FREIKUGEL
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>>171846672
I can't believe Atlus will announce several games during one stream.
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>>171855853
It will be exclusively about the new Radiata Historia and the next P5 cashgrab spin-off.
Mark my words.
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How do I beat Mayone? Her demons are faster than the one I have, it's a pain in the ass. I have to admit that SH was fun at the beginning but it's starting to be a pain in the ass.

>>171856040
I'd be surprised if there's no announcement about the SMT games for the 3DS and the Switch. Otherwise it would be disappointing.
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>[Will of Thunder]
>[Concentrate]
>[Thunder Reign +7]

You are not worthy of Valhalla.
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>>171859502
dumbest design
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>>171856040
Unless every site fucked up their translations, Atlus are revealing all of their projects that release in 2017. I will be very surprised if 3DS SMT is 2018 game.
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what are the best skills for your MC to have on subsequent walktroughs in SMT4?
I'm at lvl 77 and I got one of each elemental skill, energy drain, dekaja and silent prayer for debuffs
it werks but I know this is not nearly as OP as it probably could be
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>>171859863
>not liking tokusatsu
Pleb, Kaneko despise you.
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>go on SH forums in search of info
>read about Dream Tickets (this was when I first got the game)
>Max a demon's loyalty and you can turn it in for no less than ¥400,000
>"omg I redeemed a dream ticket and then I got max money"
>get a bunch of Dumb demons and raise their Loyalty to 5
>1/256 chance (0.004%) of getting a Dream Ticket from a Dumb demon
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>>171860256
Antichthon, Salvation. You don't need anything else.
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>>171861317
makes sense
btw is there a way to rearrange your skills into neat order without unlearing and relearning them?
If there is I must have missed it entirely and my autism is triggered every time I fight
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>>171860256
>>171861317
You forgot Concentrate.
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>>171861127
>1/256 chance (0.004%)
Isn't it 0.4%, not 0.004%?
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>>171862556

Put 1/256 into ANY calculator and see what you get
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>>171863278
I get 0.004. Which is 0.4%, since 100% = 1.
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>>171863278
>1/4 chance is 0.25%
You are this stupid.
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>>171863278
>1/100 = 0.01%
You're an idiot.
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Ignoring the manga, was the demon gene strictly apocalypse or was it also in 4?
I'm trying to remember if they completely ignored it to enable the samurai to even go to tokyo since it validates both requirements for it to activate (no archangel, higher tech level), surely they can't all be part of families with it bred out due to the diversification.
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This is your law rep for tonight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpaRouocBes&feature=youtu.be
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>>171866276
I don't think it was flat out stated, but it was always there.

Isachaar and the rest of the villagers who participated in Sabaths became demons because of it.
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Hoy
Anyone listen to those new Gorillaz songs?
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>>171871204
fuck drumpf XD
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>>171874019
and fuck The White
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>>171846151
Holy fuck this is groovy. I need to finish nocturne so I can play this
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Are karn skills good in nocturne? They were godly in IV but in IV:A they were pretty useless because everything had pierce on it. Getting close to the end so I want to start getting my demons ready
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>>171875728
heres your list bro
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>>171879529
>Aspect Raidou on both spots
Heh
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>>171875728
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>>171604398
oh you
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Why do people say Persona 1 is dated/unplayable? I've been having an alright time so far.
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>>171882771
Yeah. Persona 2's a lot worse, and not just in the dated gameplay department.
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>>171882771
Because they are casual babbs who cannot understand FP dungeon master race and having more than 8 skill types
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>>171882771
Personally never enjoyed a lot the battle system. It was an hybrid between a classic jrpg and a srpg.
The result was a slow and unfun game.
The dungeons are the best in the Persona saga tho.
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>>171883159
P2 gameplay was way better than P1.
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>>171883542
>demon negotiation is fucked completely: talking to a demon involves selecting the same options over and over and over again, aiming for a specific outcome rather than the generality of usual negotiation
>hit that specific outcome? repeat that shit again and again if you want a new Persona, fucker
>you don't even need new Personas anyway so there's literally no reason to ever negotiate, making the whole thing completely useless
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>>171882771
They're Persona 3 and 4 babies
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>>171879529
thanks doc
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>>171883909
>you don't even need new Personas
I fused personas just to get estoma and some skills that made useful fusion spells. You can go through the game without fusing but it'ln make battles way longer and more boring than they need to be.
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>tfw I've never ever used estoma, in any game
Should I kill myself, /b/ros?
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>>171888853
>always ups encounter rate if i have the chance
LOCK ME UP
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>>171888853
I only use it when I have to solve puzzles or to backtrack in a dungeon. Otherwise I feel like I'm cheating. Except in p2 where I used it all the time as soon as I could, so only in the last third of the game I guess
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>>171890005
how is it cheating when you make the bosses harder?
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>>171888995
>recruit a monster
>skip all following encounters of this monster forever by talking to him
how messed up am I?
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>>171896758
That's pretty much required in SMT1 unless you want to go insane.
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are we buying persona 5 /smtg/ ?
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>>171899570
>we
Buy whatever you want, it's your money.
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>>171899570
>it still not available for digital pre-order on PS3
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>>171899570
of course i am, anything to support Sony!
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>>171899570
Considering some of theses translations, no.

>>171893609
>>171893802
>>171893845
>>171894627
>>171894960
>>171896360
>>171898712
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>>171900261
autism
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>>171900047
shut the fuck up alright. now are you buying the game or not
>>171900159
it never will be
>>171900261
I can see being put off by some of them but many aren't really bad. Just people being upset for the sake of being upset.
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>>171882771
>pick a skill
>watch it happen

They're all the same thing.
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>>171900432
wanting legit translation is autism?
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>>171900661
Yes
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>>171900261
>Atlus love memes
What's new? they put /pg/ memes on the localization of Persona Q.
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>>171900720
how?
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>>171900440
>shut the fuck up alright. now are you buying the game or not

Who the fuck are you? Japanese Todd Howard?
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>>171900846
STFU WEEB
I BET YOU LIKE THE UGLY 80'S GANG ARCHANGEL DESIGNS
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>>171900661
treating the japanese text to a video game like unalterable holy writ is autism
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Thinking of playing DeSu 1, should I get the undub or what?
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>>171900886
i don't know who that is anon
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>>171900440
>4/13

homestuck reference guys?
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>>171901009
i agree that it's autistic but not for your reason. there's nothing wrong with wanting to experience the original artist's vision
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What if SMT was a girl?
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>>171905306
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>>171905306
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>>171905306
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>>171906669
The IV games make up for some amazing screenshots.
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>>171907665
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>>171908025
do these count
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Is there a better place to grind for MAG in Soul Hackers other than the Primate Intelligence Lab? The group of Frost and Pyro Jacks doesn't even appear half the time.

I beat Kadokura/Manitou already and am grinding for the Extra Game, so I'm trying to tie up loose ends like getting equipment and money and supplies for the NG+
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I always let loose an audible laugh when I hear someone announce their allegiance to law. I mean really, it's quite obviously the evil route. Who in the right mind would support an asshole like record scratch? And his true form further proves he's an evil fuck pretending to be good. Lawfags need to be rounded up and shot like the vermin they are.
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>>171912146
The Great Will seems pretty all right though.

Anyway, it's not like Lucifer/Satan give a shit about humans either fucko.
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>>171899570
Already have the steelbook edition preordered.
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>>171914086
I preordered the Steelbook Edition as well. I'm kind of bummed that it doesn't come with the controller decal though. I usually don't use those things, but my controller is greasy and ugly looking now so a decal would've been nice to cover it up.
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>>171913089
The Great Will is sort of beyond alignment as far as I can tell, despite one of its creations/aspects/avatars, YHVH being the chief law representatives. In Nocturne at least it (via Kagetsuchi) praises you as long as you go with one of the reasons, in spite of arguably none of (save for maybe shijima) being law.
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>>171912146
LAW is and will always be the best alignment.
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>>171918584
Correct!
When will Chaoslets give up?
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>>171914086
>>171915845
>No PS3 steelbook
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>>171920421
>PS3 version
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>>171920451
It's a turn-based RPG kid, not a motherfucking action game. Any differences will be extremely minimal.
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>>171920563
>PS3 version
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>>171920602
Me on the left, next to you
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>>171920661
>PS3 version
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>>171920769
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>>171920421
PC port when?
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>>171920927
Shitposting aside I don't know why the PS4 version runs at 30fps too. The game doesn't look that demanding visually.
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>>171920769
>spending dollar on P$4
He should be the one laughing at you fatty
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>>171899570
No. I am pirating this shit on PS3 for free because fuck this ugly-ass hipster capeshit for waifufags. I am into it just to rate new 3D demon assets.

Btw there are no differences between the PS3 and PS4 versions aside from resolution, so fuck it, no way in hell I will spend a single cent on current Sony's paperweight bloodbornemachine.
>>
>>171920769
>>171920602
>>171920451
>le PS3 is bad
Same 60 fps, same antialising, same graphics in general. Nobody gives a shit about slightly lower resolution you stupid sonygers.
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>>171923695
>60 fps
Shitposter, I...
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>>171921380
>>171921447
Can't wait for the random porn names in the next SMT
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>>171923734
What, you're shocked, fucking retards? It is. I already pirated the japanese version to check on it.
>>
/pg/ should leak back to their shithole. Nobody gives a shit about your visual novel garbage here.
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Lads i'm doing the 1st run in SMT Apocalypse, do you recommend STR or LU build? I did MAG in IV and I want to change for this game. Any protips?
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>>171925793
Both. 2 STR, 2 LU, 1 AG.
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>finish the law route in IV
>assumed that would unlock the archangels for fusion
>it didn't so I decided to look it up
>they made them fucking DLC
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>>171927649
Why would you want those ugly ass designs in your party?
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>>171930185
Just something different to use for NG+.
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>>171930716
Did you buy them yet? Kaneko needs your money for a pack of cigarettes.
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>>171930782
Fuck no, I'm not gonna support that garbage. Next thing you know they'll have us pay for every demon individually.
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>>171910796
The Hotel.

And maybe revisit the last dungeons.
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>>171930921
Freeshop, niqqa
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Would you go out with this gal?
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>>171932609
Yes, she's cute.
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>>171932609
Obvs
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>>171932609
Yes
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>>171932609
I'd rather go out with (You) cutie.
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>>171932980
>she's cute
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>>171938918
She's very cute.
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>>171932609
As long as downie purple voldemort doesn't pop out I should be good
>>
why no mastema in final?
>calls you akira
>bonds rep
>playing the long con making sure you don't seriously dethrone YHVH
>>
>tfw to intelligent for religion
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>>171941415
Why are people so autistic over Mastema?

He's appeared in a grand total of 2 games. It's not like he's the revolver ocelot of SMT or anything, he's just a memorable side character
>>
>>171932609
Fuck off, Squidward
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>>171941619
>looks like a skeleton
>has a meaty placenta arm
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>>171942518
Hoy.
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>>171941415
He's dead, son.

And he was not special enough to be revived by anyone.
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>>171941619
>tfw finally tracended aligments
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>>171941731
For the same reason everyone is so obsessed with Walter.
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>>171942753
Chaos is my favorite ailment.
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>>171941619
>>
What kind of fanart would you like to see more of? Comfy?
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>>171946584
>comfy
>in my smt
I only want sad and depressing fan art.
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>>171946584
I need more Asahi fanart.
>>
Hoy
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How hype are you?
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>>171948257
PS3 leak fucking when
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>>171947002
something beautiful about loss
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>>171948257
Yes
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>>171943174
Nice touch with the filtered fedora.
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>>171587167
He's basically the bad guy equivalent of Tatsuya. It's the same for Ginko - Sasaki Ginji, Jun - Junko, Eikichi - Anna. You'll see that each of the Masquerade's top 4 is the reverse of each of our main four, minus Maya.

Have you played Innocent Sin? It's much more obvious there.
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>>171860672
That's just some pseudo tokusatsu anyway
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Gentlemen, how do we save mainline SMT?
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>>171955956
Make a new game.
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>>171955956
SMT is the spinoff. Persona is mainline now.
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>>171956175
We tried that and it was shit, remember?
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>>171955956
fujobux
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>>171956467
The Dark Souls of Persona was okay.
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