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>[Rerun: Fate/GUDAGUDA Honnoji]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/quest_event_20170315.php
From 3/15 to 3/31. Animation update for Okita and Nobunaga. No changes to their NP.
- 5* Okita Souji
- 4* Emiya
- 3* Medusa, Mephistopheles, Ushiwakamaru, Cu Chulainn
- 5* CE GUDAO (Honnoji Point +30%)
- 5* CE GUDAGUDA Poster Girl (Hiragumo +1)
- 4* CE Launch Order! (Youhen Tenmoku Chawan +1)
- 3* CE Fate GUDAGUDA Order (Tsukumogami Nasu +1)

>[Chaldea Boys Collection 2017]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php#20170307c
From 3/8 to 3/22. Can redeem one CE from each CBC Collection for free.
- 5* Arthur (Prototype)
- 5* CE Talk on the heated sands
- 5* CE Detective Edmond
- 5* CE As you wish
- 4* CE Cafe Camelot
- 4* CE Outrage - NP Gain
- 4* CE Operation Fianna
- 3* CE Quatre Feuilles
- 3* CE Neverland
- 3* CE La siesta

>News
- Latest changes http://fate-go.cirnopedia.org/news.php

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>Farming Guide
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_SlTjrVRTgHgfS7sRqx4CeJMqlz687HdSlYqiW-JvQA/htmlview?sle=true#

>FAQ
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>TLs Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/RA8Px5jz

>FL Spreadsheet (last reset: Dec.7)
Add yourself https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScCq3eZgh3zlUtZ3G6Y-zzv1kaXt4GHuWVBRlV__V3Q3rC2Pg/viewform
View list https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FSN1kmzso2itgjWzaGfysZ5WhEjiL5EcyjGr4k6DffA

>Materials, experience and event AP simulators
http://fgosimulator.webcrow.jp/

>Alternate Servant/CE DB
http://kazemai.github.io/fgo-vz/servant.html
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Best boy.
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best
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Liz Thread
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Post a better king.

Pro tip: All other kings are inferior.
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So who wants to start a genuine Ishtar religion with me?
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Best oni.
Best assassin.
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I'm sitting on 300,000 points right now. Am I in the clear to complete the ladder by the end of the event?
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>>171409768
Can I post someone who's a better prince than he was a king?
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>>171409735
>Shirou eats pussy
Beta confirmed.
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>>171409735
I wonder how she tasted.
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>>171409813
It's called Mystery Babylon, you uneducated fool.
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>>171409895
*autistic screeching*
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>>171409768
Of coarse Your Majesty.
None are better than His Majesty.
His Majesty, banzai.
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Witch Thread.
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LIZ THREAD
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>>171409768
I can't.
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medb thread
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Will he be able to kill the Alcides master ?
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Cute king
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>>171409928
It's the best way to warm up a girl, you pleb.
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>>171410089
he'll get chumped by Zealot
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>>171409813
Me ! I already (trying) to learn akkadian and got a sumerian grammer text. Has plety of cuniform to practice with which has alot of stuff about inanna.
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>>171410148
>little dick white boi has to eat pussy to compensate for his unsatisfying dick
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>>171410089
I want to see what he can do besides be spooky.
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>>171410190
You could be a high priest, anon.
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>>171410089
Nah that cop with the hydra dagger will kill Alcides. Or maybe it'll be a red herring again like it was in Apocrypha.
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>>171409768
That was easy.
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>>171409768
Her only flaw was that she was too perfect.
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>>171410142
The cutest.
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>>171410229
>not understanding foreplay
It's meant as the appetizer, not the main course.
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Diarmuid!
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>>171410332
>king of cucks
>perfect
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>>171409768
Easy
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Fanart can be very strange.
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>>171410160
I really want to see what he thinks about her and vice-versa
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>>171409768
Done.
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>>171409928
>not wanting shirou to eat your pussy
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>>171410089
>Assassins
>Doing anything relevant
>Killing the masters of any power level shit servant
AHAHAHAHA
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Guan Yu 5* when lads?
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>>171409768
[smugs in egyptian]
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If Siegfried's skin is immune to everything that isn't above B-rank does that mean you can't get him off unless you do some A ranked sexual acts?
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>>171410489
She'll just be all "muh senpai sugoi". Considering how her backstory went, presumably Spooky Hassan will tell her she's the best Hassan ever and just generally suck her dick.
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>>171410583
Wh-What if next part of FGO shills Assassins as much as part one shilled Casters? Starting with more King Hassan exposure?
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>>171410376
If she ain't already dripping wet from you wiping out your BBC then you're doing it wrong.
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>try to run okita and nobu supports in assassin quest
>have trouble and almost always come down to last servant
>say fuck it and run merlin/waver
>rarely if ever lose a servant
not at all worth the 60-100%
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>>171410583
Well the master is not stupid and Shadow Hassan looks competent so who knows
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>>171410680
You just sexually touched him on the back
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>>171410716
>Starting with more King Hassan exposure?
He already got shilled fuck off
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>>171410708
Spooky Hassan just got irrelevant fodder tier with King Hassan intro anyway.
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>>171410716
Are assassins cursed because they are the best class on paper?
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>>171410680
>Sumanai can't get his dick wet unless it's A-ranked pussy.
Does this mean Kreimhild has A-ranked prowess at sex?
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>>171410708
But she's not that good of a assassin
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>>171410716
Nah. I feel like part 2 is going to be all about the Riders.
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>>171409768
That was easy.
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Mephistopheles (True) when lads?

>The name of a monster that had his past and way of being has been distorted by means of the image born from his deeds while alive. His abilities and form was transformed. In his case, there is nothing but merits in that transformation.
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>>171410708
Wednesday is for bullying though.
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>>171410978
But he is true?
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What's the best spot for Black spider pots?
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>>171410825
They didn't get to be muh core though.

>>171410849
Best Classes are still the Knight ones in a regular Grail War you don't summon freakish Servants like Merlin or Solomon I guess.
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>>171410902
Cursed Arm shat over 100 face in her favour.
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>>171409768
Blushing face when
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>>171410915
Rider Noah?
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>>171410978
Fuck that,we need Faust with Mephisto as Phantom
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>>171411237
Amongst others.
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Reminder to not call Astolfo a "trap" because you're basically being a rapist asshole.
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>do Assassin node
>fuck it up and bring my Honnouji point party with the underleveled Servants

That was a waste of seals. Better waste them than AP I guess.
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Name a better Alter protip you can't
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>>171410783
that doesn't matter, the plot demands that assassins aren't relevant because you can't have epic shounenshit fights if the masters die
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>>171411237
I wonder how much of a fuccboi Noah is going to be.
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>>171411134
I think she's pretty strong but more like a warrior strong than a assassin strong
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>>171411278
>Trillion
Man, that game was weird and repetitive.
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>>171411443
He'll be a blue haired and blue eyed bishounen.
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>>171411330
>ANN

I bet that guy is a tranny too
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>>171411382
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>>171411278
Fuck off waifushitter. Faust is a guy in Mephistopheles' backstory. He made him.
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>>171410978
>Summon Faust
>Chaldea gets flooded with Clown copies
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>>171411780
Clown rateups till the fucking end of time
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>>171411330
Kinda sad to have those "noble" ideas when the creator's idea was "Lol,you thought she had a bagina but it's actually benis".
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NTR
T
R

It was about time Merlin got cucked.
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>>171411753
Not in alternate universe
>le meme homunculus clown meme
What a boring shitter
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Gareth-chan when?
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>>171412114
It's highly unlikely prototype verse will have more genderswaps besides Merlin and Musashi.
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>>171411896
how is that "noble", she's just calling falacies because she had personal issues
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>>171412253
There's more verses than Protoverse and genderbends sell. Don't act stupid, if they want a female Faust, they'll make a female Faust. Prior stated information means nothing.
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>>171412253
Ushi
Mordred
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>>171411330
This cap reeks of tranny that looks like a man and is salty as fuck about it.
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>>171411489
> "i need to kill somebody inside a building that is protected by magic alarms and shit"
> "just charge in and bulldoze thru that shit"
> assassin
yeah
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PRELATI!
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>>171412469
They were male in legend and history, they aren't genderswaps.

>>171412468
Musashi didn't do as half as good as you expected her to be. The waifus that 'sell' are:
- Alters
- Some established popular characters versions (Ishtar, Tamamo)
- Memes from popular artists

Random new genderswap isn't guaranteed shit.
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>>171412667
That hair would make Bryn proud.
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>>171412667
Is that Bryn (Alter)?
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>>171411134
and zealot says 100 is still better, which shows CA is a shitter who no one cares about
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>>171412597
At least she realized how stupid an un-assassin like it was afterwords.
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When you see the bamf Lionheart man
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>>171412667
Anime when or regularly updated manga
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>>171412989
>anime

Maybe in 20 years
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>>171412898
Zealot says that because she's too religiously devoted to the Order to think they could be wrong in choosing her, she's self-loathing and under-estimates herself

Literally everyone else is aware of her superiority. She out-right terrified most of the order.
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>>171412989
When the LN's are done, the manga can't be regularly updating when they're T W O. D A Y S. Into the war in ln's
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>>171412942
Nice crosseyes there, roach witch.
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>>171410479
Cute Gil.
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>>171413246
The manga hasn't even introduced Prelat yet
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>>171413107
don't argue with wednesday, she and 100 have a cute one sided rivalry.
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Tfw you will never hang out with your servant self to enjoy the inhumanity of other's suffering
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>>171411168
No pls. My dick would literally explode
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>>171413320
Yeah it has? She was in the chap with the cop and in the chap when Saber was summoned. Only her servant self hasn't been summoned yet in the manga.

She even made her JANNU MUST BE VIOLATED speech,
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>>171413446
My dream is to summon a cute servant that is crazy and evil but for some reason takes a liking to me and we hang out
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>>171413575
Oh I didn't realize they came out with a new chapter
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>>171412540
this was before she tried to become a man
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>>171410290
He was on autopilot with God as his guidance system. Doesn't count.

>>171410332
>too perfect
No such thing. She's obviously flawed.

>>171410413
Give me a holler when he actually makes a formal appearance outside of the chibi dimension.

>>171410516
Same issues as Saber.

>>171410679
Literally just Gil but worse.

>>171410958
His greatest act in the Nasuverse was to father Solomon. His entire kingship is overshadowed by the fact that he got one his wives pregnant.
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>>171413807
Ramses made many fantastic works in his name

Gilgamesh built a wall

Even the Chinese built a wall and theirs is still standing unlike his shit

GREAT WORK THERE GIL-GA-KUN
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>>171413446
Who will be the first to ride their suffering train.
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>>171414164
>theirs is still standing
Pretty much every section of it has undergone repair or restoration at some point or other.
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>intelligent, nihilistic, with a wick sense of humor

If I were to summon a servant based on my personality traits who would I summon?
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>>171414164
>Gilgamesh built a wall
he what?
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>>171414413
Me
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>>171413807
>post better king
>waa waa flawed

And your gayass golden retard is the same,what the fucking point
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>>171414381
Flat. It's got to be Flat.
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>>171414381
I'm betting they'll play the long-game in breaking down the cop by slowly tarnishing his ideals of justice and purity till their warped into nothing more but the thoughts of a callous murderer at which point they'll reveal to him what he's become and he'll go totally insane from it.

Sigma will get lightly toyed with, nothing too serious.

She'll probably attempted to fuck with Ayaka but Richard will protect her for relationship building

Apart from that, no idea, I have a feeling Flat and them will interact at some point really casually with him not catching on that their assholes and nothing will come of it but comic relief
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>>171413807
>He was on autopilot with God as his guidance system. Doesn't count.
Gil called him "great king solomon", regardless of what you claim. Besides Roman was pretty much everyone's leader in Chaldea and the reason why people didn't fall apart to rescue humanity, while Gil, Artoria (lion), and the others couldn't really push their own weight in the crisis as leaders. Even Archer Gil agrees to follow him, without testing him or anything. (You) are super important now because he has chosen (you) as the heir of his legacy. Arthur also defers to Romani.
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>>171414381
hopefully themselves so the war spins into a clusterfuck where no one knows what the fuck is going
but then again
>Narita
>killing off characters
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>>171409890
Depends on your bonus %, I made some math and doing only the 1AP dailies would get me 1459900 points.
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Prelati needs to stick around till the end

Her humor is top notch
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>>171414680
This pretty much. Chaldea leader in time of crisis was Solomon. He was the one handing the grand orders and the guys in the singularities were fucking up before (you) arrived on his orders and followed his planning and instructions. Guda is inflated now because Solomon saw them as the one who will inherit his legacy.
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KING GILGAMESH BEST KING.
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>>171413807
>He was on autopilot with God as his guidance system. Doesn't count.
So?
He still better king,how he achieved it doesn't matter.
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>>171409768
>All other kings are inferior.
I bet you can't even provide quantitative evidence to support your thesis.
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Gilgamesh's tale was about a man with the flaws of a man.

Lustful and hungry for glory, yet cowardly of his own mortality, he went through many challenges and lost everything but gained the greatest treasure of all.

Wisdom. The wisdom to understand that by being a good man, others can continue and develop your goodness and form a richer better world.

Gilgamesh wasn't the best King, beneath all the arrogance he'd probably much prefer someone else to be the best King just to serve as proof of his belief in humanity. Especially his older self.

He's a guiding father, but not perfection, if one cannot understand his flaws then one has failed his vision.

Accept his problems and do him proud.
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>>171413807
Gil was pretty mediocre as a king.
>tyranical moron
>let his kingdom fall to shit because of he fucked up
>rebuilt it but also let it go to shit again
>he was really not working well in keeping his head clear during the catastrophe, that's why Roman and Merlin, and sometimes (you) have to take care of shit and think about it

He says so himself. He just does everything for his pleasure. That's exactly why he can't be a good ruler.
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Was Gil beating Rani in chess thanks to his clairvoyance or is he just really smart?
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>>171415320
>but also let it go to shit again
because a monster capable of and intent on ending humanity was beating on his doorstep
can't really hold that against him
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>>171414873
I feel bad for Chuuni Cop.

>Has to deal with Dumas
>Has to deal with Francesca
>Squad got it's teeth kicked in on the first day by a single Master
>Gets saved from said Master by a guy he was telling to fuck off
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>>171415292
What's a koubu from Sakura Taisen doing in F/GO?
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>>171411330
I miss when traps and trannies were different things, back before this trans stuff was a real thing. Before tranny fags took over the term and got offended by thr term in thr same movement.

Trap is a crossdresser that can pass as a girl. Can be straight or gay, purely comedic or lewd. It's like that episode of pokemon where main character cross dresses to sneak into a gym. It was just comedy in that case. But it can be used in other ways.

Trans is mentally ill "I was born in wrong body I'm a girl" with hormone thereby and stuff.

Astolfo is trap, D'eon might be trans.
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>>171414164
Gilgamesh fought humbaba and brought cedar trees,killed bull of heaven,told ishtar to fuck off,went to underworld.
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Damn
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>>171415481
Let us not forget this happened because he told Ishtar to fuck off
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>>171415585
who cares they're both gay as fuck lmao
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>Lancelot is not the strongest Ser-
https://youtu.be/I1Fw9F0enK8?t=3m6s

Reminder the destructive capabilities are boosted too by KoH.
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>>171415320
>He just does everything for his pleasure. That's exactly why he can't be a good ruler.
Ruling his country and making it prosper brings him pleasure (makes him happy), how does that make him a bad ruler?
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>>171415481
He would have still ended up going to shit. He says on very open terms that ruling is like a past time or hobby he does because he takes pleasure of it. A good ruler isn't one who is just doing it for kicks, anon. This is exactly why (you) only acknowledge one person as your true leader.
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>>171415585
>D'eon might be trans
If s/he can switch gender then no.
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>>171415621
And how does any of that make him a good king

All that did was make the gods pissed who proceeded to kill his friend for it

That's a shitty selfish king. Even Nero wasn't that audacious.
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>>171415569
Babbage is a Servant, not a koubu.
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>>171415621
And while he was doing that his country went to shit in his absence.
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>>171414898
Solomon would have failed in all the Orders if it werent for the other heros. Stop overinflating solomon.
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>>171415704
It's the other way around, because he decided that makes him proud, it makes it prosperous. If he randomly decided, it no longer does, it will make it go to shit. He's bad for that same reason. He has no real commitment to anyone but himself.
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>to be a good ruler you have to be an emo and hate your position
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>>171415490
It's kinda his fault.He's kinda out of his field there.

>I bet that guy that shoots a bajilion swords will draw his uber sword on us but we'll zerg rush him to death

Sure, it worked once, but it's laughably simple.

Also
>asking for melee weapons instead of magic guns
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>>171415849
A good ruler is one who keeps his people safe and happy.

Being a hedonist who voluntarily drops his people to go do stupid shit isn't a leader.

It's a bratty child.
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>>171415721
This.

It would be like if someone someday suddenly stopped being gay: that shit doesn't happen. That's why being trans is a mental illness, unlike being gay.

Or maybe we have been brainwashed already and both are mental disorders. And inside spoilers because I want people to see how I censor myself to not get called a bigot ;)
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>>171415840
At the end of the epic he does go back to rule Uruk like he was supposed too. Granted after he found out he couldn't become immortal cause he's an idiot
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>>171415849
"By Osiris, being the pharaoh feels absolutely fucking amazing." -- Ramesses the Great, paraphrased
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So, there is some mythology which isn't too overwanked?
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>even with 0 replies he's still going at it
Is this shitposting continuation EX?
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>>171415840
>he loved doing his work
>his people loved him and lived happy as shown in chapter 7
How is that wrong?
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>>171416078
Depends what your definition is on wank.
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>>171415836
There wouldn't be orders at all without Roman, stop trying to try to overlook this when the story already stresses this through Mashu, (you), Lev, Da Vinci. Roman was the director of Chaldea, your boss. So all those Heroes who answered to you, answered to him.Chaldea name itself is a Solomon reference. In case you weren't aware, Chaldeans were Solomon's proteges and subjects who built him a temple in real life lore.

Also overinflating the importance of the character Nasu said was the core of part 1 over a bunch of recurrent cast is pretty funny.
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>>171416078
Non-scat Celtic myths are pretty tame.
Some of the greeks are pretty fair based on their original adaption.
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>>171416078
Define wank.
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>Gil as a kid
Ideal king,but tool of the gods
>Gil from adolescence till before he met Enkidu
Absolutely terrible king,but no longer a tool
>Gil after hemet Enkidu till the latter's death
Better,but still not good,since he's too busy larping around with his BFF.Treats people better at least
>Gil after his journey
Reborn Wise Sage King,devoted to ruling his kingdom or whatever his title was.Still haughty and arrogant but actually treats people well.Also not a tool.

It's like that
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>>171415840
He was really committed to his country. One of the reasons he went to search inmortality was because he thought he couldn't just die and leave it alone.
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> All this Solomon worship
> When the idiot couldn't keep his pants on enough to stick to the God who gave him his powers and made temples to heathen gods in the desperate search for pussy

Lel
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>>171416025
Read Babylon, he hasn't changed at all, he simply decided that makes him happy at the time being. So he takes pleasure on it.
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>>171416198
Goetia fucking shit up is solomons fault.
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>>171416336
All part of God's plan though.
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>>171416198
All the heros and (you) worked together to save humanity. Roman alone couldn't have done it.
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>>171416078
Greek mythology is pretty mundane overall.Irish as well.

Maybe Hindu too,since they're not anywhere near as strong.
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>>171410068
Don't put the one and only UNRIVALED close to that golden shit and DUDE jr.
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>>171416283
> Non-scat

Cu's myths were pretty fucking tame-

The myths with giants were the weird ones where they made entire islands by casually throwing rocks
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>>171415836
But the anon is right.
He was the leader.
They were the lackeys.
You were the middleman who now inherits his position. He passed the torch to you.

But you're pivotal because he for some reason chose you. Big shoes to fill.
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>>171416472
>Hindu
>not wank
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>>171416472
> Hindu
> HINDU

What the fuck are you smoking? Hindu myths are literal power level shit posts with armies of millions being defeated in seconds and universe implosion weapons being brought up as casual side-arms
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>>171416336
>Solomon
>able to choose anything in life

?
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>>171416489
Well the wank i'm assuming here is making a character much better than the myths for example.
In which case Cu is pretty tame for his origins.
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>>171416297
>gil
>not forever a worthless piece of shit who lost to Lu Bu and Shirou
Fuck off giltard. The gods wanted to kill Gil because they realized he was a mistake.
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>>171416573
I thought he meant "In Fate".SURE they're wanked, but compared to their actual legends, they're pretty cute.

Except Buddha.Not sure if the solar system thing is a thing in Buddhism.
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>>171416470
Which isn't what I'm talking about. Roman saw you as his heir, you fucking idiot. Arthur sees you as relevant because you're his heir. Part ends with Roman telling Da Vinci of his wish to make you the one who carries his legacy.

If you think fucking Gil was shilled over Solomon as king when (you) only give a shit about following Roman's orders and shoulder his legacy and this is like the key plot for the next part, you're unable to analyze a simple work of fiction of generational tales.
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>>171416835
> The Buddha described a 10,000 world systems, which was to say that there are literally an innumerable amount of solar systems. A world system was the description for a sun or star with several planets revolving around it. We now know that there are several solar systems through direct evidence with high powered space telescopes. Nearly one hundred planets have been identified in the known universe up to this point. The Buddha stated that "the infinite world spheres are incalculable" (KN, Buddhavamsa 1.64)

Buddha is at one with the Universe
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>>171416472
>Maybe Hindu too
>"THIS ASTRA CAPABLE OF DESTROYING UNIVERSE,BUT DON'T EVER USE IT,CAUSE IT WILL DESTROY THE UNIVERSE"
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>>171416078
Norse culture is represented by two shirtless bruisers and a crazy BBA wearing a seifuku. None of them are particularly overpowered.
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Solomonfags are the cancer killing /fgog/.
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>>171416887
This. Summon Caster Gil seems more offended someone hijacked Solomon's corpse than he gave a shit about someone wearing Enkidu's corpse and pretending to be him. I think this was a bit out of character (how he handled Kingu).
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>waa waa stop shilling Solomon,shill muh King Gilgamesh he did nothing wrong i swear best king evah XDD
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>>171416638
>>171416989
Pls don't bully, thought he meant Fate wanking mythologies.
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>>171417031
FGO cannot exist without Solomon.
t. Nasu

It's like removing Shirou from FSN or Kiritsugu from Zero. You'll have to learn to live with it, anon.
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>>171411945
I think that would be his fetish
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>Already got my second copy of Nobu
This is going way better than expected
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>>171417145
They are still upset that they can't self insert in Guda anymore. Poor anti Romanfags.

I'm glad that Nasu gave us a good role model to attach our self-insert instead of a waifubait genderswap, a jobber from a previous show or someone with a very convoluted characterization who you don't know if they are good or a psychopath.
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>>171417240
>FGO is Solomon's fault

He just keeps getting worse
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>Lancelot
>loved to the end by MILF if the Lake
>lived in Avalon with fairy mommy
>can go back to Avalon whenever he wants as seen in his Bond CE
>top tier genes create Jesus 2.0 (who is still weaker than him anyways)

>Gilkek
>hated by the gods who created him
>lived in the mortal world like all the plebs
>shit tier genes created nothing of value
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>>171417145
Not even Gilfags overinflate him as much as Solomonfags though.
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>>171416078
I'll say Meso American amalgamation only because I don't actually know anything about them besides that they're constant rebuilding the world
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You're all forgetting the best ruler who did literally nothing wrong and always appeased his people's requests even if it personally dissatisfied him
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>>171417362
Only because he knew he fucked up with Artoria.
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Is A+ Divinity the biggest meme?Gil never became a god,should've been B+.
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>>171417529
Lancelot:

Got date-raped into making Jesus 2

Gilgamesh:

Refused to be tricked by no bitches and told Ishtar to fuck off

Wew
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>>171417578
>Not even Gilfags
Spotted the gilfag
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>>171417649
Gil is 2/3 god. Full gods get the Divine Core skill instead of Divinity.
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>>171417649
He already is 2/3 god anon, he is more god than human
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>>171417529
>both Lancelot and Gil destroyed their kingdoms.
Pottery.
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>>171417529
If he's so much stronger lets see him pierce Lord Camelot.
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>>171417578
No Solomonfag overinflate him, though. They just state the facts: he was the core of FGO and the entire game shills him (or rather Roman) as why Chaldea even is still standing and shit. He hands the grand orders which is a title drop and the set up for next part is protect his legacy which is now resting on your hands.

The other Servants besides Mashu and maybe Da Vinci/Merlin are, so far, secondary characters and helpers. Not the Leaders. Not the ones that defined the MC which went from nonentity to Chaldea's Master and Solomon's heir on his will.

You're whining about facts. It's like people arguing that people are overinflating Nero in Extella.
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>>171417781
But A goes to Demigods that became Gods afer death.

Just seems odd.He lowers it anyway ,so it's not like it matters much.Medea's much more hardcore at it.
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>>171417698
>Gilkek will never ever feel what the warm and caring embrace of the MILF of the Lake feels like
>all he gets is a bunch of mud shaped as the body of a prostitute
WEW
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>>171417412
>"Already got my second copy of worthless shit archer"
I'm not sure that's something to celebrate...
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>>171417958
> warm

She lives in a lake anon, she's not going to be warm.

Besides knowing how Nasu treats mentor figures she's probably another Scat by this point
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>>171417862
Remove any single one of those secondary characters and you'd be fucked.

Stop trying to pretend Roman is the only one that mattered or that he did 90% of the work and that everyone else were all just there for some small contribution.It completely contradicts the point of the game.
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>>171418046
>mentor figures
She is his fucking mom, not a mentor.
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>>171417924
>But A goes to Demigods that became Gods afer death.

Did Karna turn into a god?
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>>171417578
They don't. People with poor reading comprehension to understand FGO basic plot and hierarchy.
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>>171417862
>You're whining about facts.
Yeah Gilfags are used to doing that, don't mind them, you get used to it after a while.

Just wait a bit and they start trying to turn Solomon into a meme.
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>>171418152
Joined his dad after death I think?
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Solomon was of central importance

But at the same time all the "lackeys" were too

Every person who appeared in the story of Grand Order had necessity to be there, it wasn't the story of you saving the world or Roman saving the world, it's the story of how humanity stood up for itself.

All the heroes of the past returning to help you in the battle at Solomon's temple is a prime showing of this.

Only together was devastation evaded.

That's what the human order represents. Not the will of one, but the will of Everyone. You being it's inheritor is just because you're the only truly living cunt around.
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>Strongest Servant
>Best king
>Best-looking male
>Sakurai Takahiro
How can others even compete?
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>>171418114
Remove all the workers in a factory and it's fucked too. Doesn't mean they are the same level as the CEO. Stop pretending that you know what they are discussing. This began as a discussion of leadership.
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>Melvin arguing with himself again
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>>171418046
Horse-sensei is a good teacher.
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>>171415630
Trans is worse, I think its like being a furry. "I feel I was a wolf, I was just born in the wrong body. I'm a wolf" yet its been accepted as the norm now by society. Trap at least isn't as deluded, its just wearing girls clothes and shit.
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>>171418407
> Strongest

Fuck off Kevin.
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>>171418378
Nobody denies that, though. This discussion began as "who is the best king and why" and somehow Gilfags got offended because the story isn't actually favoring their husbando as the best ruler but the one the MC respects the most and inherited the will from: Solomon. That's fucking it. Because we're in a context of a story that's about them. Jesus fucking Christ.

Here Solomon cosplaying Jesus.
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Why didn't Roman erase himself when he found out about Goetia in London?
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>>171416480
But Lancelot loves to hang out with Gil!
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>>171418407
>not tested by Solomon
>can't break the seals of his sword with sheer power
>Lancelot is not afraid of him and made sure Arthur couldn't blackmail his way out of a fight
>cucked by the greatest knight of all times
Arthur is trash
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>>171418659
Because time travel and dimension fuckery
T.Nasu
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>>171418431
I don't care about what started this I was responding to the post you made

Mashu even spells it out before the final singularity: all heroic spirits she met are great people.All of them are necessary.

Just stop overwanking him,he's important,pivotal,his sacrifice great sure,but you could say the same thing about plenty others.
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>>171418659
He didn't want to die, so he was holding on to the slim hope that (You) would find some other way.
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>>171418659
Because he needed to still lead Chaldea to solve singularities or everyone was fucked. He was also not certain what the fuck was "Solomon" until Babylon and the Kingu shit. Did you actually read this? He had to wait the perfect timing to use Ars Nova too. If he had used it in another time, maybe the pillar demons would have escaped and still cause shit (as four did in 1.5).
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>>171418652
FGO is Mashu's story though.
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>>171418804
Don't put him on the same place as others. It's like saying Shinji is the same a Shirou in FSN because he's a Master in the Grail War too.
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>>171418913
When are we going to get the "Mashu goes on a diet to stop being so fat" chapter?
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>>171414974
This king is a SLUT
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>>171418746
>inferior knight trying to compare himself to the King of Knights
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>Roman was a comic relief character during all of FGO except the last chapter
>somehow he was the most important person in Chaldea
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>>171418995
you completely missed the point

But Roman is a coward anyway,so it's not a bad comparison,i guess
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Kintoki berzerker gacha when?
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>>171419081
Everyone besides Da vinci will forget him in Part 2.
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>>171418913
>FGO is Mashu's story though.
Not according to Nasu. Her role is simple as a mirror to the protagonist in expanding thoughts and stuff.
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>>171419081
Well, it's not like he had much competition.
Aside from (you) the only other people with faces were a mentally ill man who never shuts up and a fat nerd.
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Finally, replaced Emiya with Shiki in my bond team to start my KH setup it will be complete in a year with the current bond rates
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>>171419081
How to spot a dumb EOP.
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>>171419051
>Cuckthur is only relevant because of the shit Lancelot's mom gave to him
>a Knight and a Knight of the Round Table
>but also not the strongest Knight of the Round Table of the greatest knight of all
Cuckthur wasn't even good enough to satisfy Guinivere.
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>>171419257
>the MC and his mirror aren't the most important characters in FGO
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>>171419115
Shirou is a coward? I guess he is. But memes aside, Shinji was a part of the Grail war which made it happen, but the story was Shirou's, same as FGO part one, it was about Solomon, the rest were subplots. Similar to Shinji's whining about not being a magus was a subplot in FSN.
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>>171419257
>Her role is simple as a mirror to the protagonist
This is you slightly warping what an interview was said to create misunderstandings and general bullshit. Don't think I didn't catch that you said it like that's her only role and she's not a character in herself.

Her role isn't a "simple" mirror, that's not the only role in the story. While she does have a role of leading the audiences reactions she is a character in herself with a story arc. She and Roman were closer to being the MC's than Guda considering they both actually had a story that tied into the entire plot and had a climax at the end. Guda was just there as a witness for most of it.
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>>171419527
>Solomon is more important than Gudao/Mashu

kek
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>>171419527
>FSN is Shirou's story because he's the protagonist
>FGO isn't Gudao (the protagonist) and Mashu's story but Solomon's
Just say you like Shirou and Solomon.
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>>171419527
The story was about all of the Heroic Spirits and the Humanity Foundation Order,not just Solomon.

The climax was just about Solomon,but that's not the same thing
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>>171419527
What?

Are you retarded?

The story of FSN was about how one participant in a grail war tried to achieve his ideal with three possible outcomes

The story of FGO is about how everyone tries to save the world

In FSN, the only one who matters is Shirou because his ideals are the story purpose

In FGO, Solomon is just one of many who contributed to saving the world. He's central, sure, but everyone played an equal part.

The world changes based on Shirou's decisions

But Solomon's decisions do very little, it's everyone else making their own choices that assured our happy ending.
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>>171419480
Nasu himself said that the core of FGO 1.0 was about Roman's relationship with Solomon. That's what the plot was about, genius. If you actually followed the orders, you and Mashu were kind of like Watson in a Sherlock Holmes novel or Christine in the Phantom of the Opera. It's more an audience surrogate than a protagonist and focus of the story. Part 2 could change this unless Nasu follows the same pattern and explores another character's story in the plot.
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>>171419081
Truth about him was hinted since Okeanus and London. You go back and read and its clear they were building it up the entire time. If you thought he was a comic relief even with Camelot dropping truth bombs on you about his secrets then you didn't read it.

Nasu said that FGO was created based on a song he liked that he envisioned to be about Roman. Conversation with Roman when they meet David for the first time is more humorous in retrospect. But also his reaction towards Solomon in London was big.
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>tfw you realize gilkeks, heramemers and gawaincucks are jealous that Lancelot got to savour all the love and care of the MILF of the Lake, Guinivere and Gareth-chan while their shit Servants got nothing and nobody loved them
W E W
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>>171419909
>>171419856
>>171419757
>>171419727
>ええ。まさにこの段階で「Grand Order」というタイトルが決まり,以前ボツになったビーストという設定を引っ張り出すことにしました。そうなれば,全体の流れは決まったようなもので,ビーストを出すなら神代の終わりの話にしよう。神代の終わりと言えばソロモンだ。じゃあソロモンとロマンの関係を物語の核にしよう,といった感じで屋台骨ができていったという。

>But Solomon's decisions do very little
Except creating the Age of Men and Human Order.
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>>171419947
He was a failure as a character, then. Mashu and even the helpers and antagonists of each chapter shined more than him.
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>>171420049
> Milf of the lake

May have been a water abomination

> Guinivere

Cheating bitch

> Gareth-chan

Fair enough.

Also you forgot Galahad's mom.
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>>171420361
Which exist as a representation that it's the will of men, not a man, but all of mankind, that influence the future.

That no singular person or deity should hold position or importance over the grand majority

Or AKA

Individuals are nothing, combined efforts are everything.
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>>171420049
Guinevere was a nigger, Gareth was a slut and the Lake one is probably not even a human. Not a great list of women, try again.
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>>171420540
>moving goalposts
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I want to hold pinkies with my waifu!
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>>171420049
I'm sure he loved running Gareth-chan through and tossing her aside for that whore Guinevere.
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>>171416078
Anything African that isn't from Egypt.
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>>171416078
Voodoo.
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>>171420651
>Guinevere was a nigger
You mean pure but unsatisfied Queen

>Gareth was a slut
Hand were said to be the softests and most beautiful, yet they stroke Lancelot's cock everyday.

>and the Lake one is probably not even a human.
Not that bad if you consider Femme Fatale
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=61980704
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>>171419020
He's PURE.
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>>171421050
>You mean pure but unsatisfied Queen
No, I mean a nigger.
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>>171421247
Percieval in that show was pretty hot
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>>171420393
>May have been a water abomination
Femme Fatale isn't bad and neither is Gorgon Medusa

>Cheating bitch
She was pure but Cuckthur cock is like 3 inches and accompanied with the fact that he had no baby NPs that could help him in bed, and that wasn't enough to satisfy anybody.
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>>171420540
They sure look important here.
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>>171421247
>non canon trash
If she was so ugly why did Cuckthur marry her?
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>>171421154
Purely lewd, maybe.
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>>171421505
Look at his face and tell me, if you could find any trace of intelligence on it.
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>>171419581
I never said she wasn't important. I said that part 1 was Solomon's story because it fucking was, and Nasu said so. All the plot tied back to him. Christine is a character in the Phantom of the Opera, but the plot and core was the Phantom. She's the audience surrogate. It seems /fgog/ is fucking illiterate to not recognize the differences.

Guda isn't a character, though. I'm not sure how can you argue he or she is when it's just you inserted to the story without anything distinctive or even an arc. Only recently they have been getting some characterization and inner thoughts. Who knows if Nasu will expand it.
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Weeeew 2017 5*s finally taking off with Bestzerker nurse. I still want to murder the one responsible for the artwork though.
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>>171421850
omedetou
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>>171421850
Wish I rolled Nightingale
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>>171421850
>tfw I like the artwork
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>>171421850
HER NAME IS KOKO
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>>171421824
>Guda isn't a character
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>>171421850
she's fat
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>>171421850
>only 1 5* this year

Fucking E rank shitters. If you haven't gotten 5 5* by now then you just need to quit.
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>>171421824
>Implying Roman got more characterization besides being a nerd
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>>171419581
Oh by the way, I forgot to say that I agree with you. Mashu was robbed hard by your self-insert. She's the one bonding with Roman, scolding him when he's down, and have a tight backstory that in some ways mirror a little to Shirou and Kiritsugu (when he was de-edged as a goofy family man). She should have been the one who Roman dubs his heir and holder of his legacy because he transmitted his way to her. She even parroted his words to Goetia in the ending. It's just so fucking stupid that after this, he randomly chooses (you).

She was robbed and shoved to a waifu-kouhai side role when she should have been the main character of the story rather than this shitty excuse Nasu puts of "she's mirroring (you)."
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>>171422615
You outed yourself as never reading anything of FGO when Roman's way of life was the one Mashu embraced and learned and what she used to tell Goetia to fuck off.
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>>171422442
It's not. It's just you. You're not a character, you're the player.
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>>171422564

Counting everything since the start of this account I'm averaging 1 5* a month and I'm actually okay with that since I got a taste of what the true E rank luck was before that (7 months of nothing, barely a 4* or two.)
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>>171421850
The sad part is he can draw her decent.
He just choose a final version that was not good.

Either that or someone preferred the one we have.
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>>171422615
>implying Shirou got more characterization besides being a sword autism
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>>171423124
>Every silent protagonist isn't a character
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Should i whale in this game?
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>>171423334
Yes.
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>>171423334
Only whale when you must get a certain servant no matter what, or during New Years when its guaranteed five star gatcha.

Don't just whale for the hell of it.
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>>171423304
Silent protagonists aren't real characters. They are roles (you) fulfill in a story. It's not a character, but you.
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>>171423304
>Silent protagonist are characters
Huh?
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>>171423149

Hopefully one day we will have some kind of artwork update.
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>some stupid gilfag is offended that roman had more plot weight than his husbando in a game which featured solomon's np in the fucking title screen
Are you done arguing about this bullshit? It honestly seems pretty retarded.
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>>171409381
Who's the dude lookin' like Ling Yao?
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>>171424326
Sakamoto Ryouma, the Rider from Koha-Ace. The girl is his mount.
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>>171424326


Is Nox fixed btw
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How many five stars do you have fgog?
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>>171424569
yes
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>>171424651
Just 12.
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>>171424716
>just
that's still a lot
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>>171424651
Counting repeats? Because I have a Waver NP4
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>>171424326
Probably one of the strongest Japanese heroes to date, but Nobu beat him due to compatibility. The more mystery or legend value you have the worse compatibility you have against her. While Okita who has almost no mystery at all counters her somewhat.
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>>171424651
12 unique ones, 2 at np2 even though I hate them both
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>>171424569
no
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>>171424815
My best friend rolls one each gacha.
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A lot of Japanese heroes are lower tier though.
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>>171424557
>>171424569
>>171424952
>Jap servant
>Jap clothes
Why does he have a fucking fedora??
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>>171424952
how did okita vs nobu play out again?
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>>171425158
Why does Medusa look like someone's SM wet dream?
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>>171425158
Why is Saber a girl?
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>>171425235
Okita tries to use three step stage, coughs up blood and messes up, but then summons the Shinsengumi. Rest of the fight was basically offscreen, and Nobu survived anyway to help fight mecha Hitler.
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>>171424651
27, one np3, two np2
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Only non-jap servant in the war is a sentient thought experiment
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>>171424952
>>171425132
>>171425346
>>171425638
TAKE YOUR NOT CANNON FUCKING FAN FICTION SHIT OUT OF HERE
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>>171425747
>Cannon
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>>171424651
3
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>>171424651
2
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>Two 5* in 400 quartz
Is this normal or did I get hilariously unlucky?
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>>171425638
Pretty sure Grandpa Li isn't a jap either.
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>>171425747
This only cannons are allowed in this general
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>>171425638
> Sentient thought experiment

Wot

All that comes to mind is Schrodinger's Cat
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>>171425834
War tally

Demon Musashi - beaten by Okita
Li Shuwen - beaten by Nobu
Sakamoto - beaten by Nobu
Okada - beaten by Li Shuwen (Minor victories; ganked Akiha and Karen, neither died)
Maxwell - Beaten by Majin Saber
Okita - Won in the end
Nobu - survived?
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Combo NPs when?
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30840915
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>>171424651
f2p since christmas

13.
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>>171425747
Yeah only Blackbeard allowed in this thread for he has all the cannon.
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>>171425834
I'm sick of waiting, they need to stop beating around the bush and put the rest of the Koha-Ace servants in the game already.
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>>171426372
They look a pretty cool cast actually, better than Fragments' at least.
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>>171426372

Its been said before, but events like the one currently going on usually only happen before part two events. Koha 2 might be next. Although considering this event is two weeks, I might give it another week to be sure, earliest it might be announced is late tomorrow.
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>>171426075

You're right in the expeced results, Even on the lucky side kinda.
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>>171426179
It's Maxwell's Demon. A hypothetical approach to violating the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics and essentially creating a perpetual machine. I.e. Generating free (and practically) unlimited energy.
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Maxwell's demon seems like the most useless thing in the fucking world desu, does it even fight?
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>>171426440
Some of them aren't exactly memorable, but with a bit of polish they could be great.
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>>171418652
Fuck off solomon was gods bitch. Thats why he was the "perfect king".

Fucking my ass F/GO is his fault the bastard.
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>>171426075
literally twice what you should've gotten, you got lucky
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>>171426631
So what's it do in Fate? From the wiki it just says it can't die but we know how the wiki is.

Unlimited energy beams or something more contrived?
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>>171424651
Played since launch and I have three
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>>171427064
Infinite energy and no attack power, needs magical energy to exist to use his NP, so can't be called 100% perpetual. Can't die in an age before it was solved, but would be even weaker in the modern era.
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>>171426658
Main point is that its unkillable, and under certain circumstances it's last boss material that can create something strong enough that the counter force needs to be sent in to fix.

He can create infinite mana and stuff, and can't be killed. But also can't fight at all.
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>>171421850
>shittingale
>best anything
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>>171427234
So it's just... A prana battery?

It's sounding just like a prana battery, I guess in the hands of a really capable magus that'd be useful but as a servant alone it sounds worse than Angra-
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>>171427375
Yes, useless in a modern HGW. He uses the Holy Grail and the Hand of Dawn to turn fake Hitler into the Neo Fuhrer which is supposed to be a manifestation of the true furher or something weird.
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>>171427375
>so useless

That's what they said about Andersen at first. Turns out that these types of guys that are underestimated are dangerous. He was basically the last boss here.
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>>171424651
Rolled 14 copies. 11 5*. 6 are limited

F2P since August 2015
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>>171427654
>>171427785

Well. That's at least pretty plot twisty I guess.

Thanks for the info, appreciate it.
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>>171427993
He seems suspicious from the start, with the way he keeps getting shot or cut in half but appears one panel later unharmed. He's like Schrodinger''s Cat in Hellsing.
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>install the new ANRC module on nox
>FGO starts working but then an error shows up and FGO crashes

What do
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>>171428094
Schro never really attacked either, did he? Weird, he doesn't even have the no attack power excuse.

Wonder if we'll ever get a Schrodinger's Cat in fate.

Inb4 generic anime neko grill
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>>171427123
Are you hoarding?
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A real human bean
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>>171428316
I'd let him unleash perpetuate my motion engine
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How long would Nobu last in a fist fight?
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The sequel that will never happen
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Post pictures of pharaohs. I particularly need to build my Cleo stash.
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>>171428667
Depends

How much mystery do they have? If alot, play the OPM theme and imagine Nobu going "All it took was one punchhhh?"
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>>171428718
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WHAN NEWDS OF NEXT EVENY
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>>171428718
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>>171426184
That Beowulf, Martha, and Xuanzang one was excellent.
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>>171428731
Nah, it's nightmare mode, and Nightingale sees a filth germ.
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>>171428883
5 weeks.
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>>171428718
First thing that caught my eye after searching for オジマン on Twitter. Here you go.
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>>171428946
Can Nightingale remove Birthday Ghost?
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>>171428946
oh

OKITA HELP-
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>>171428307
I wish. I currently have 42 quartz and three tickets, I've rolled every other quartz and ticket available to f2p
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I feel as if this might be funnier if I knew the anime reference.
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>>171429293
You get quartz from strengthening quests
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>>171429147
I significantly doubt even Nightingale could do much about the very personification of disease itself

She might well try and kill Tsubaki to rid the world of Pale Rider though
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>>171429360
I am very well aware. My luck is just abysmal
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>>171429303
That's a reference from Aikatsu.
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>>171429263
Come on now, Nobu likes things like guns and European uniforms. She should enjoy this.
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>>171429293
Who are the 5*s that you have?
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>>171428718
Pharaoh duo.
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>>171428817
WHAT THE FUCK ARE THOSE THINGS
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>>171428718
Sure.
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>>171428718
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>>171428718
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>>171429495
Do you want to be smitten?
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>>171429495
Mejed's, they're the guardian of the underworld and have eyebeams

They're also one hundred percent fact and appear on hieroglyph's in that exact form. The most hilarious of Egypt's deities.
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>>171429495

The strongest creatures in the world.
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By Allah how horrifying
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>>171429616
>The most hilarious of Egypt's deities.
You sure you would laugh about that?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWJJQzAl13o

Skip to 1:15 and witness the anti-existence level power of a Medjed holding back
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>>171429387
It would be fun to slowly watch her escalate her methods of disinfection though.
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>>171428718
Technically they're both pharaohs.
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What did the website mean by this?
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>>171428718
Best Pharaoh.
Until Khufu comes out.
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>>171429948
When was the last time we see Giga Nigga?
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I wonder if nobu's guns are faster than GoB
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>>171428718
Have a Nito instead.
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Why nobody gives a shit about her? Goetia has about dozen of doujins.
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>>171429814
When will we get a version of Nito that unleashes the true power of Medjed.
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>>171430267
no hips even though she's literally only good for breeding
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>>171430157
Not counting the Christmas rerun or the Time Temple cameo? Accel Zero event, last spring.
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>>171430310
When we get assassin version.
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>>171429616
My personal favorite is still Ammit.
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>>171430201
I don't think Gilgamesh would risk holding back against someone who defines anti-mystery when he's the "original mystery"

He'd GoB her from all sides and that'd be that. Maybe pull out some kind of shield if need be just in case. His advantage is versatility of weapons and placement while she can only shoot from one area, but she can automatically start shooting with a thousand rifle's at once. Versatility wins in the end though.
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>>171430157
didn't he literally show up this event?
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>>171430267
Goetia has Sugita, a Solomonface and an actual characterization. Maybe if Nasu makes Tiamat more lines than aaaaaaAaaaa, she'll get more attention.
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>>171430310
When she dons the robe and becomes in and of herself a Medjed

Beast Zero
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>>171429616
>Ancient ghost gondolas
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>>171429303
I don't know why the artist made the resolution so bad for this, but it feels appropriate.
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>>171430432
>I don't think Gilgamesh would risk
Stopped reading right there.
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>>171430267
Because she didn't exactly do much or have any development, plus debuted in a chapter filled with girls.
Meanwhile Goetia turned into a pretty boy, and had lots of undertones with Roman/Solomon.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_kwbpsHyq8

Bow to your god
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What the fuck was his problem? Was Da Vinci that bad to make that face?
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>>171430679
He's only retarded against human's, when it comes to servant's he generally knows his limits. That's why he stays well out of range of anyone in the knight classes and gladly employs Enkidu if it he feels there's going to be a problem.
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>>171430432
>I don't think Gilgamesh would risk
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>>171430838
He's gay, anon
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>>171430838
First time in his existence that he had sex without God holding his hand. First time without the training wheels.
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>>171431052
I'm going to assume it's that, and not a secret futa dick.
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Karna and Nictoris really should meet at some point just so he can watch Medjed shoot eye beams and declare it as a hero among heroes.
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>>171430838
Unlike Arturia, Da Vinci does not know how to please men.
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>>171429465
Jannu, Drake and Illya. I like and use them a lot so it could be worse
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Serenity is a growing girl.
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>Leonidas has no lines with Heracles
fucking jews
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>>171430201
>>171430432
>>171430901
Wouldn't matter, Nobu would just be chained and skewered by Ea after having her pretend guns dissipated by Enuma Elish.
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>>171431182
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>>171431273
>divine construct working inside anti-divinity RM
hmmm
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>>171431243
Why would he? You'd need to give all the Roman's and all the Greek's a line with Herk to justify Leonidas getting one
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If he's lonely or bored he should just fill the room with those meido clones of his.
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>>171431373
IIRC Lenoida's line claimed to have descended from Herc
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>>171431337
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>>171431470
So did all the Roman Emperor's. Everyone claimed they were related to Herk. it was the meme of the time period.
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Solomon gatcha when bros?
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>>171431524
Goes to show how little Nasu actually cares
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>>171430893
This

He does treat other servants with respect when he thinks its accurate. He doesn't hold back against other servants so much. Its like a checklist for him.

Human = they're a joke, not a threat
Servant = Use some amount of power, destroy them.
Servant who is a king/leader = Use full power
Servant who is demi-god or has divine blood = Use full power(unless they're berserker, in which case pity the fact you couldn't fight them in their real form)

It was said in UBW BD2 interviews that they would have lost if Archer had showed he was still alive before the end, as GIlgamesh would get serious and they couldn't deal with that. The entire fight in UBW played off the fact that Gilgamesh wasn't going to treat a mere human as a threat until he had already fucked himself waiting too long. However he treats Archer as a threat as he went out of the way to backstab him at the climax of their fight in UBW when he was weakened. Shirou notes afterwards that he found it odd Gil specifically targeted him over Saber or Rin. Gilgamesh realized Archer was a threat since a few scenes prior. He's good at detecting threats ironically.
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>>171431470
>>171431524
it's plausible, didn't he have to impregnate a ton of women that one time
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>>171431049
There seems to be an upcoming doujin Merlin fucks him as a mahou shoujo loli and then in his real self.
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>>171423726
SHouldn't we also be getting a guaranteed 5* gacha for the anniversary?
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>>171431595
You know there's only two points its likely to happen. End of EoR or end of FGO2. He's not going to be available willy nilly, it'll be during some big story event for a limited time.
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>>171431706
50 chicks in one night, it was called the 13th labour for shits and giggles.

Although I'd call wrecking death the 13th labour
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NP2 Manjew never
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>>171431349
Not even Nobu can stop something that warps time and space itself.
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>>171431595
>gacha
Bitch should have been free after clearing the last singularity. Jew Works owe us.
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>>171431789
13th Labor is neither of those, both of those are jokes

13th labor was freeing Prometheus since it was supposed to be impossible and shit.
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Nobu a CUTE.
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>>171431780
>You know there's only two points its likely to happen
White Day 2018.
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>>171431759
Probably.
At the rate DW is going, while it's unlikely I wouldn't be surprised if we get a "Pick a non-limited 5 Star for 30 shekels" seeing how the jew gacha has evolved from one big pool to knights and cavalry to being by class.
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>>171431780
He sounds more an anniversary gacha for next year than that, like Da Vinci was. Holmes is going to be this year Anniversary Servant for sure.
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>>171431976
I want to bully Nobu by asking her if she's such a great military leader then why doesn't she have any friends.
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>>171432145
Hideyoshi, Tokugawa, Mitsunari, lots of people who followed Nobunaga liked him.

Ranmaru Especially Enjoyed Him.
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>>171424651
22, with 4 at NP2 and Ozzy at NP3
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>>171431595
Never.
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>>171431470
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_kings_of_Sparta#Agiad_dynasty
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>>171431595
2.0, probably around half-way through
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>>171432252
Just because they were followers doesn't make them friends, says a lot that the betrayal at the end was by one of them.
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>>171431797
You know leveling his NP does literally nothing right?
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More traps when

Dongfang Bubai 5* Assassin when
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>>171432419
Ranmaru chose to die with him.
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Did they fucked 60 times in an hour?
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>>171432419
No they were out-right friends.

Hideyoshi was such a massive Nobunaga fag that he did everything he could to keep to the Oda, Mitsunari even waged a war against Tokugawa because he was turning against the Oda.

Ranmaru was literally taking Nobu's dick every night (Presumably giving Nobu dick every night in Nasuverse)

Only Mitsuhide betrayed Nobu and that's likely because we know historically Nobu liked to bully Mitsuhide by calling him names and playing pranks on him
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>>171432625
>Nobu liked to bully Mitsuhide by calling him names and playing pranks on him
C-cute.
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>>171432625
Is Ranmaru male in Nasuland?
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Would you marry this Roman?
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>>171432625
Hideyoshi is also already in Koha, and is Nobu's lackey on occasion, who accidentally killed her during a gag once. Nobu came back from death a few chapters later. Also that Tanuki guy is here for a chapter.
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Who should the next Pharaoh servant be?
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>>171432876
> Nobunaga accused Mitsuhide of superficially praising his allies after their victory over the Takeda and physically kicked him.

> While staying at Azuchi Castle, Tokugawa Ieyasu complained about the food he was served. Nobunaga responded by throwing Mitsuhide's priceless dinnerware into the garden pond.

He also let Mitsuhide's mom die for his ambition which is pretty mean
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>>171432891
Yes.
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>>171432885
Probably, I mean unironic traps are pretty rare in history, why waste one by genderbending it?

>>171432958
Cute.
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>>171432961
Akhenaten.
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>>171432961
Akhenaten
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>>171432961
Me.
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>>171432961
Obama
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>>171433235
I want to go on adventures with Hideyoshi-kun and Nobunaga-dono!
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Honest mistake; he didn't count on the comic having random continuity next chapter.
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>>171432625
>Nobunaga is cuckbait
dropped
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>>171433424
Is she okay?
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>>171433424
Do you have the koha ace anime ending where a ton of servants running through the screen?
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>>171433465
Well he had a wife and a cute trap he fucked, even if they take away his wife No-Hime, which I doubt because she's assassin-class bait, Ranmaru is far too trap-potential to ignore.

So

Yeah
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>>171433465
>Nobunaga is cuckbait
>ask for your loyalty
>literally fucks (You)

I'm not sure
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>>171433583
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkYpCIyrd-o

It's at the end of this
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6lz-KJSiRM
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>>171429616
Wonder what the archeologists thought?
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>>171433928
It's time to make Nobu into fuckbait.
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http://imgur.com/a/4ErFN

People remember Riyo comic, but very few remember the comic that came out leading up to FGO's original launch. The comic that shit on the game before it even came out and the company was already fucking up.
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>>171433929
Cheers

>that Kariya
>that Sakura

kek
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>>171433928
She'd ditch you for Ranmaru
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>>171434371
I don't think so anon, she'll just make an addition to her secret harem.
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>>171434315
There really was no hope for Director Orgone Energy, was there.
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>>171434371
Nobu doesn't ditch people. She just creates a reverse harem. No-Hime and Ranmaru were fine with it so who're you to speak up?
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>>171434529
>>171434642
>sharing
no better than Medb's cuck harem
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>>171434697
Can't date the demon king with that attitude.
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Which servant would enjoy rape play
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>>171434581
I'm sure she'll be fine
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>>171434529
>>171434642
And people wonder why it was a retainer that got the last laugh.
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>>171434917
Spartacus, hope you know a good safety word.
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Cutest Saber.
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>>171431223
At least you like them, and that's what matters the most
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>>171434915
>date
>multiple
awful

>>171434642
>these other people who were cucks that were willing to share, so you should too
nah
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>>171434939
Who're you referring to?

Hideyoshi and Tokugawa both liked Nobu and both succeeded her so she probably doesn't mind, and Mitsuhide died like two days after killing Nobu to literal peasants so he has nothing to be smug about
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>>171434697
What else do you expect from an archer able to take independent action?
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>>171435080
>Visual approximation of this anon
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>>171434697
Wow, that's a pretty rude and stupid comparison.
Nobu's harem would only be conformed of few & high quality individuals who doesn't indulge solely on carnal desires to sustain a relationship.

Unlike Medb and her vast group of faceless, stupid, and ornery men who only look after her body.
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>>171435236
Medb only wants the greatest of heroes in her harem, her standards are pretty high
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>>171435080
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Scu81EW4UC8
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I wanna go on a date with this kouhai
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>>171435284
Her wish for the grail is to have every man in history be hers, she has no standards
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>>171435236
Says the whore that sold out to Europeans.
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>>171435348
>Although her fixation regarding Cu Chulainn still remains, her wish for the Holy Grail is unrelated to him. "To make all superb men of past, present, & future into my lovers". If possible, a brave warrior who is generous, not envious and knows no fear.
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>>171435313
>That Fou pouch

Does Merlin just mass produce Fou products to sustain his neet lifestyle.
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>>171435371
> Sold out

She was an innovator and understood that Western civilization had went beyond what her own had, so she brought in guns and wore plate armor to invoke her superiority and to bring unification.

It was smart.
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FUCKPALS WITH NOBU!
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>>171435541
SOLD OUT TO OUTSIDERS AND MASSACRED HER OWN PEOPLE
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>>171435309
MAKE IT STOP
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Nobu is pure
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>Its a nobushitters ruin the thread with image spamming and shitposting episode
>Again
See you guys tomorrow
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Why is Alter considered better than Vanilla even when they have the same skill set and Alter having inferior stats?
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>>171435778
There is no such thing as pure servants.
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>>171435875
Into the nobu pile you go.
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Why does my chest feel so weird when I think about my waifu? It's been like this for years. It's like an explosion in my chest that recycles back into itself and happens again and again. I can barely speak when it happens. At the same time I feel an empty part inside that I've tried to fill with real people, but every time the only one who can accomplish that is my waifu.
Please help, I need to be separated from my waifu for a few months soon, I don't know how to survive it.
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>Nobu is literally japanese Medb
Nobufag on suicide watch
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>>171435080
Only if you forget that Bedivere exists.
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Guys, question?

For that Mata Hari Tea Gathering Hell Quest, I don't have properly strong riders and I have to balance this out with the event bonuses.

What if I balance it out by having a maxed out rider as support?

I'm not too confident bringing a maxed out Nobu/Okita support for this. Or are they sufficiently powerful anyway?
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>>171435947
Medb fucked hundreds

Nobu fucked like two people max

Herk is more of a slut than that
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>>171435941
Think again
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>>171435080
i want to mindbreak arthur!
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>>171435947
But how many men can Nobu take at once?
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>>171435997
>Assassin enemy
>"should I bring Rider?"

Anon...
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>>171435997
Depends on what level they are and what level the rest of your shit is. Could just bring a support to be safe though.
You want casters, not riders.
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>>171435941
She's a saint you know.
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>>171436064
She sure penetrated a lot of prostitutes back in London
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>>171436135
Just me and a trap, maybe Okita too.
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>>171435997
You can faceroll everything with just Merlin.
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>>171436295
Jannu's the holy virgin and she rides dragon dick

Your former thug saint has tasted the dick
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>>171436337
Yeah, with a knife, i can live with that, Jack confirmed for top tier once again
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>>171435941
Tesla.
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>>171436437
unless mata hari brings out the charm spam
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>>171436726
Merlin can out heal even that.
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Mata Hari should be illegal to use as an enemy.
AoE charm with no cooldown and moans that make people think I'm playing a porn game.
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>>171436507
Mere memes

Because cuckposting is such a huge thing, things are often misconstrued in order to shitpost people. Jannu is still a virgin along with the other one. Its just like the story of Rama and Sita.

Rama and Sita proves mankind will always be plagued by cuckposters. Something doesn't have to be true, it just has to be repeated endlessly until they have no respect anymore and act retarded banishing their wife that they saved from the underworld even when its proved a dozen times she was still chaste.
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>>171428280
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>roll the gacha simulator two times
>second roll is this

What the fuck did I just waste all my luck?
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>>171436726
Anderson has shit taste.
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>>171437024
That gacha simulator is sponsored by DW to make people buy more rolls.
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>>171436726
>mfw Andersen with his CE
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>>171437198
Is that the face you made when he showed you his masturbation journal too?
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>>171436224
>>171436437

My best casters are NR and Hans and they're Level 50 and 45.

The way I see it, would bringing Nitocris or Sanzou be viable?

If I do this sort of comp, it means my Honnouji point bonus would drop below 200 or somewhere as low as 80%. So can a maxed Okita/Nobu support barf out enough damage for a (mostly) clean run?

Right now I need to farm tea pots for the golden skulls, and I am at like, 210k Honnouji points right now.
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Save your quartz.
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>>171437024
No, that mean you'll get what do you want in the next roll.
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>>171437552
Who the fuck is that lol, looks like some relic of the past or something

Tsukihime R collab when?
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>>171437552
Nasu already confirmed SSR Arcuied during the last interview

No one's interested
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>>171436994
I love you anon
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>>171437552
I have a better bait.
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Only three days left until AnimeJapan. I hope the FGO panel won't be half dominated by talk of the AR and VR crap.
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>>171437739
Well no shit, Arcueid won't be Gudasexual so she's irrelevant

We need Archetype Earth
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>>171437739
no one playing f/go read FSN let alone t. sucky-meme

from their poll only 20% of people indicated they read one of their VNs
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>>171437775
-3/10
Would rather save my quartz
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>>171437813
>Implying there are servants who gives a fuck about guda.
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>>171437775
O-onee-san?
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>>171424651
one, illya
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>>171437951
This edgemeister.
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When is the animejapan thing?
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>>171438081
But I don't give a fuck about him.
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>>171422381
SHE IS LOCO
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>>171437512
Not that anon, but yes.
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>>171438029
Bitchy onee-sans are a special type of amazing.
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>>171432961
You already got the canonically best and greatest pharaoh ever. Any new pharaohs would just be inferior downgrades.

t. Sakurai
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>>171438096
See >>171437806
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At this point of the game, Mephisto can be considered a joke character?
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>>171438216
Tough luck; you're not getting rid of him.
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>>171438823
No? He's just a servant like all the others, just because he doesn't play a big part doesn't really mean much. His oddness is just one of the ways Japanese sometimes present demons. Look up Kefka for instance.
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>>171437548
You'll be fine on Honnouji points since the 1ap quests end up giving most of them.
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Why does King Hassan scream like a madman when he starts the battle?
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>>171438823
He's a very evil sadist who pretends to be good and unassuming. Its literally all in his profile, everything towards his master is an act to pretend to be comical, when really he's absolutely going to kill them

Its said if summoned normally he'd do it even sooner though I think.
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>>171438823
Does anyone care?
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Just look at that goober making a fool of herself in public.
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>>171438906
>>171438937
Fair enough.
>>171438948
Well, it bugs me he is a poster character.
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>>171438910
The gacha CEs aren't something I can't do either. But at this current pace I'm doing, I can get all the Nobu-related items and NP5, can I?

>mfw I need 400 teapots for this, and I'm estimating roughly 5 days to get it all done
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>>171438823
Only till he reveals he is working for a beast and hates your guts and would feel pleasure in tearing your insides out as painfully as possible
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>>171439080
All the Posters characters ended up having little to no effect on the story. They were a meme.
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>>171409768
Here
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>>171439093
1AP quests near the end give like 200k points each.
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>>171439046
She's never been in public, be nice.
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>>171439046
>そのあと(chinese)セックスした

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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>>171439093
Depends on your point bonus
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>>171439046
"We had a fuckload of sex afterwards."
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>>171439226
めちゃくちゃ
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>>171438936
Most Hassan originally had a "God is great" line but they censored it out.
Probably for the better, if it's anywhere close to Unrimited burado warks I'd hate to hear Arabiku in F/GO.
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>>171439226
Everything will be daijoubu.
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>>171439163
>not thinking all Gils are best king
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>>171439229
>minimum 420%

I can average 220% and barely make it to 260-300% point bonuses.

I still have 200 Golden Apples. How many other events rely on them apples?
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>>171439163
All Gils are a best
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>>171439381
Thanks, I didn't know it had a kanji.
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>>171439229
WHEN HE DID A SUMMARY? I DID IT ALL WRONG, Now I won't be able to reach 1m, thanks Cirno for being useless as always ;_;
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>>171439465
>200 apples
You'll be fine.
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>>171439542
Apparently during the first run everyone was hitting 3m
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>>171439465
>How many other events rely on them apples?

I don't think there's ever been an event that doesn't need apples

That said, you're fine with 200 apples since the ladder gives some
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>>171439465
All of them.
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>>171439465
You don't have silver servants?
That's all that's needed to reach nearly 400%. Nobu is welfare. CEs are in event shop. Support Okita is literally everywhere.
This is 1AP we are talking about where party strength is irrelevant.

You can have nothing but a bunch of silvers and you'll still reach the ladder requirements by 1AP quests alone if you're not retarded.
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>>171439652
Will Zealot get a mask one day.
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>>171439998
No.
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>>171440175
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>>171440330
Zealot is sleeping.
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>>171440319
Why is everyone so fucking autistic in this setting? It feels like I'm inside my head
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>>171440467
Because being a magi literally requires autism. That's why the only people who reach the Root are bona fide autists like Shiki.
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>>171440643
>tfw you could probably reach the root before anyone else here
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>>171440319
A lot of servants love Guda. But the posters in this franchise are obsessed with cuckholding more than almost any other franchise. So even when a servant is shown to love you a dozen times and says they love you and is overt as fuck, what it really means to these people is that she wants to fuck someone else and she's just cucking you all along.

She can have an interlude where she confesses to you and says she loves you. What does this get interpreted as immediately after? "Interlude isn't canon, she's just cucking you". They pick and choose all the time what counts and what doesn't.

Don't argue on the level or take these people seriously. There is no logic with them, its just shitposting.
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What are you doing Siegfried
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>>171440319
Do we have translations of those anywhere?
I'm going to look at the translations pastebin in a sec but I'm just asking here if its not there.
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What are the chances of a F/SN collab event
>Takes place in Fuyuki
>All the normal Servants are there and Shirou
>Ishtar takes over Rin's body still having EMIYA
>Prisma Illya takes over Illya and has a hard time dealing with Herc with Ruby and Leysritt banter
>Medea and Lily are both there with Kuzuki and give him a double buff
>Parvati takes over Sakura and manages to have Medusa, Gorgon and Ana all summoned
>Rasputin Kirei
>Taiga does nothing the whole event as Jaguarman
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>>171440829
HF collab
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>>171440829
Seems funny.
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>>171440815
He is sorry
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>>171439229
So what I'm seeing here if my alt is sitting at 110760 today then as long as I get a cu or mephi then I can np5 nobu without any extra points from the quests.

good to know.
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>>171439998
Only a mask of shame.
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>>171440467
You could probably spew some babble about how only those who don't understand/have the "common sense" of being a person are the ones who are able to stand outside of what's "common sense" for a person to be able to do and do truly superhuman feats or something, and it'd sound convincingly Nasu enough.

>>171440824
Most of the profiles weren't translated, as far as I know. The stuff on BL is basically only the muh power levels part for the servants that aren't particularly popular or had anything revealing in theirs.
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>>171440992
>It's a singularity where HF went horribly wrong

I wonder if it could get any worse, death counts wise
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https://youtu.be/JX9LK8AS-pM
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>>171441170
Dang, I'd like to read the materials.

>Power-levels
It's like no one watched DBZ
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>>171441202
>death counts wise
FGO is a story of hope

Even when the situation goes off the rails in singularites like that, it goes off the rails in the reverse way.

Someone tries to use future knowledge to do it better
Something that shouldn't be summoned accidentally fucks things up
Everyone teams up to beat it and it winds up better and more hopeful than the original route.

Collab's are like Zero collab, they don't try to match Babylon in tone. Nasu had to get onto Urobutchi for writing a collab too dark at first saying that stories should be hopeful instead.
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Anyone have a lb medusa ce I can use?
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>>171440829
It sounds fun as fuck.
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>>171441308
The power levels part can be neat (but also annoying when it goes "never ever appearing in FGO"), especially how a bunch of the servants in FGO have NPs that aren't used or mentioned in game, or for explaining how skills and NPs that aren't clarified by the game work.
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>>171424651
12, one of which is NP2, and 6 of them are limited. All F2P.
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>>171441381
T-Then can I hope for Illya's survival?
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>>171442303
Just talking about things they can do are fine and even interesting.

Its only when it turns into 'Who can beat x" that it gets irritating because its basically, scissors beats paper beats rock except sometimes rock can becomes scissors and theres giant hammer smacking everyone while fountain pen lies in wake.
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>>171442756
Berserker "Kill all the children in Britain so I don't have to deal with Mordred" Artoria when?
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>>171438948
That one autistic creepy clownfag who is now dead.
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>>171442484
In the long run? No

Unless they go out of the way to do something like summoned Dr.P who created the ultimate non-dying homu body for her or something. They won't though. Maybe Nightengale, but I think she's the type to solve problems with a bullet half the time.

If it was in the style of Zero collab, I think HF collab would just have them all join forces and become friends sooner and something strange is summoned. Somehow Sakura gets possessed by Parvati which destroys her connection to Shadow/Angya and wipes out her impurities, but instead Zouken becomes the new Shadow or some shit since Angya needs another host in order to be born. I don't know, throw in Kotomine servant.

The idea of Zouken being pregnant with Angya might be a bad image though. Its a work in progress.

Event ends with them all around the table together like old times, except now they're all servants.
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>>171434315
Wait, you're telling me they've known old characters in a different class don't count as new characters since before release, and they still pulled the valentine's bullshit?
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>>171440815
The hell is this from? That's way too similar to Siegfried

Then again long white haired swordsman aren't rare but still
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>>171442484
She can be the welfare like Irisviel
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>>171439658
Got everyone but Benkei. My problem with farming points + tea pots is the Mata Hari boss quest. It's a huge compromise to points to have the main team be NR + Helena/Hans + Sanzou/Nito support.
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>>171442962
> Implying it won't be Shinji becoming the host
> Implying we won't get Servant all the world's evil Shinji edition

Baka
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>>171443240
I would never complain about not rolling a unit I want again if I got a welfare F/SN Illya

I'd have everything I wanted and anything after that would just a plus.
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>>171443516
Sounds fine, just more reasons to kill him.
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>>171443595
> Kill

it's a story of hope, anon. We'll purify him into becoming a kinder gentler Shinji who with new-found powers becomes Shirou's partner in a bright future of heroism
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>>171443516
Then I'd make sure to run a Mashu with double Merlin team to give him the slowest death possible
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Honestly, the remaining servants hat I want outside of the stuff I wanted via starter account are mostly the welfare servants from the previous events.

So now I don't know whether to roll for Okita -soonish-, or wait to roll for regular Nero or Altera or Summer Anne.

I don't feel strongly either way on my options because of test driving/borrowing other peoples' maxed out servants. What should I do?
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>>171443690
Dark Iri could give you a count down death clock, so stalling isn't an option
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>>171443828
wait for Bride
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>>171443658
But with that logic in the zero accel event we could befriend Gilgamesh somehow, but instead we ambush him.
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>>171441381
Nasu really needs to stop inviting people to write things then changing it at the last minute. The entire point of bringing in other author's is to see how they'd write a story for the work, I'd have much rather have played through whatever edgy bullshit Uro made than the snooze fest that was the Accel Zero we got.

Once he genuinely retires and let's other writer's go as crazy as they want we might get something refreshing for a change rather than emulation like Apoc ended up being.
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>>171444140
Okay.
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>>171444216
>But with that logic in the zero accel event we could befriend Gilgamesh somehow

We're nowhere near Enkidu's level of befriending and ambushing him sounds faster and less work
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>>171444182
I don't know, I wasn't that happy after borrowing Nero Bride.
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>>171444140
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Find a flaw.
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>>171444715
Nakahara
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>>171444715
Pedo
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>>171444715
Is an even more bland variant of a pre-existing character with an edgier backstory who constantly gets rape threats from others of the same gender who want to make him their bitch

Never sticks it in Ayaka or Manaka, too beta for that, too much of a lil bitch

Gets his woman stolen by Richard whose now slamming her on the daily,
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>>171444715
Not naked with collar on his neck
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>>171424651
13 and I'm coming up on a year since I started playing.
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>>171444715
He's not even best boy in his own series.
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>have 7 grails reserved for Redman
>can't roll him
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>>171444257
>played through whatever edgy bullshit Uro made than the snooze fest that was the Accel Zero we got.

All we know is that it was darker than Zero, and his main input was "Would it be fine if I just killed these characters and ended it there?". To which Nasu said "That's not what this story is supposed to be about".

He didn't change it last minute, he changed it during the writing phase, that's an odd way to phrase it like he did it the day before. Its not wrong to keep the authors to theme of the story somewhat. This is a story of hope. Although the romance between Iri and Kiritsugu was poorly handled.
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>>171444896
you can grail my redman

i have 11 grails and none are going to him
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>>171444715
Gawain is better.
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>>171444828
>an edgier backstory
Their histories are more or less the exact same except that he never had to worry about not having been born with a dick and balls.
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>>171444828
His GO profile specifies that he has the same past and legend that Artoria does.
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>>171444715
He's too perfect.
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>>171444969
>not protecting this smile
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>>171445163
i actually use him all the time, he just doesn't have that special something i am looking for in my grail usages

its like looking for love
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>>171428718
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>>171444257
>"Nasu is the cause of all the bad writing! I want him dead so Fate can be great again"
>He leaves writing of most of FGO to other writers
>They become the shittiest orders in the story that we all hate
>He comes back for the final three Orders
>They're the best Orders in the story
>"Ooooh how I hate him, once he leaves they can be original again"

Or here's an idea, maybe he's not the reason they're unoriginal hacks at times who rip off Fate ending. Maybe he doesn't have a gun to their head making them do it. Maybe they just had poor planning and fucked up on their own, didn't plan out the ending properly, and reverted to something already established when they couldn't figure out how to end it after they peaked during the third volume. Narita is under the same constraints as Apoc author, and Narita sure as hell ain't fucking up in the same ways. Nasu is generally hands off with others works on record. In an interview he said he gives them basically free reign.

None of EoR is written by him, and we can already say it has a few flaws. Meanwhile Babylon was 100% written by him along with Solomon Order, and they had some high points.
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>>171444828
Would you rather he receive rape threats from women instead of men?
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>>171445305
I'd rather he received rape threats from literal robots to be honest.
It's definitely not my fetish, no sir.
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>>171443595
You can feel the entirety of HF's hypocrisy in this post, kek.

>>171445280
>They become the shittiest orders in the story that we all hate.
Nasudrones are redditors. How surprising.
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>>171445253
Yuri is a cancer I'm glad the Fate series is free of.
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>>171445594
anon... i...
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>>171445594
Does this count?
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>>171445594
>Yuri is a cancer I'm glad the Fate series is free of.

Anon...I...
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>>171426184
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30802015
No kill like overkill I suppose
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>>171445594
>play femalemaster
>suddenly yuri is everywhere
Funny how that works.
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>>171445686
Why isn't Medea chasing a naked Saber immediately?
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So cute.
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>>171445594
>he didn't read FSN
>he didn't read HA
>he didn't play Extra
>he didn't play CCC
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>>171445594
>Yuri is a cancer I'm glad the Fate series is free of.
Are perhaps a newfag?
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>>171445686
No.

>>171445762
>>171445875
Not canon.

>>171445673
>>171445702
>>171445894
Not an argument.
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>>171445686
And Hassan was gushing in this scene.
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>>171442756
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>>171445739
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30840915

That Kerry and Yan Qing combo
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>>171446027
Females being attracted to other female characters isn't yurishit.
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>>171446015
f/go and everything in it is canon

even prisma illya is canon until nasu disavows it (he won't, he likes it)
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>>171446103
Yeah, is just yuribait.
Doesn't change the fact is cancer.
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>>171446128
Female master isn't canon.
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>>171446103
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>>171446090
>Kerry shoots Yan
my sides
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>>171446276
Prove it.
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>>171446354
>[HorribleSubs] Fate Grand Order - First Order - 01 [720p]
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>>171445739
Nice, finally a non-gameplay fgo video which isn't an autist AMV or a parody.
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>>171446276
>bringing up another pointless argument that would just lead to more shitposting
Both masters are canon
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>>171446507
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>>171446829
Shinjuku was an "anomaly." There's a female master in the PV to make the fact that she isn't canon abundantly obvious.
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>>171446276
Why must you shitpost?
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>>171445009
>>171445132

Artoria's Mordred didn't want to rape her. Pretty significant change there.
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>black out
>only thing that went through my head was Toyotomi Gilyoshi
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>171445280
Sieg was Nasu's idea

And Narita not fucking up? Have you not seen Sigma?

It's the same shit because Nasu always pushes for stories to mimic the styling of his original work. He's incapable of writing new pieces and tries to ensure no one else can either.

> Gives them free reign

Sure, despite having on record said he sometimes re-writes whole sections of what he gets from them when it comes to GO.
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Things that are never mentioned outside of shitposting, and should never be met with actual responses since its always a shitpost when they're mentioned
>Cuck
>Canon
>Reddit
>Lancelot
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>>171447184
You forgot Gilgamesh
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>>171446940
Guda's not part of the anomaly, they try to fix it.
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>>171447184
Lancelot cucks Arturia in canon, reddit
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>>171447184
lancelot is really good gameplay servant tho
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Nobu already informed us during Koha Ace that in fact, neither Gudako nor Gudao are the canon protagonists

It's Riyo Gudako

Have the canon ending of FGO
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>>171447184
>>171447231
Fuck off to reddit with your non canon female master anti Lancelot discussion GILKEK
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>>171447184
You forgot
>waifu
>gameplay
>grailed (x)
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>>171447418
The worst thing TM did was acknowledging Riyo.
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>>171447580
Not even close.
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>>171447580
a year ago I woulda called you a faggot but his comics have been complete dogshit for a while now
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>>171447580
Fuck you, Riyo's an asset to this franchise and the future of the company
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>>171444257
Stop trying to excuse the other writers fucking up on Nasu.

The story with Accel Zero is that Uro's original PLAN for the story was an edgefest that would have clashed too hard with the rest of the game so he got told to tone it down. Then Butcher produced that uneven clunky mess.

If you get hired to write a story within a setting, and the shit you produce sticks out like a sore thumb, that's not THE MAN keeping you down, that's you fucking up the work you were commissioned to do.

If Urobutcher wants the full creative freedom to rapemurderkill characters all day erry day, he can always write his own stuff. Getting hired to write a story with already pre-defined parameters is a standard writing gig, and failing to produce a compelling piece within the constraints you agreed to when taking the job is 100% the writer's fault.

If anything, FGO is definitely a massive vindication for Nasu, because sweet mother of Christ does the quality ever swing dramatically upwards whenever he takes the helm from the rest of the typewriter monkeys.

EoR is supposed to be a hands-off gig, and so far, I'm apprehensive. Shinjuku is definitely a step up from London, not to mention fucking Septem, but the occasional funny bit aside, it's a bit fat bunch of "not bad for a filler chapter, I guess."
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>>171446982
It's just a meme.
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>>171447885
At first was really funny, but now...
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>>171447885
The recent one was pretty good though.
I wonder if butthurt Shiokawa told him to tone down the bashing.
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>>171447914
> This much Nasu fagging

Suck his cock more why don't you?

It was a collab, Butcher produced the original Zero, thus he made something along the vein of Zero to do what a collab is meant to do.

Instead Nasu wanted to confine it from what a collab is meant to be and make it more applicable to the setting of the GO story and thus put restraints on a writer ill suited for this kind of setting. He didn't want Fate/Zero Accel, he wanted Fate/characters from Accel hang out in my retarded idea of a plot.

It's like hiring Shakespeare to write Dr Seuss, if you don't expect a despair fest, it's your fault for being enough of a fucking retard to not get an author who does light hearted stuff.

Nasu's ruined other works. Apo is one. Narita's already had to complain that Nasu changing his mind like a bipolar shit-lord has forced him to rewrite sections of SF.

But sure.

It's not Nasu's fault, he makes such gooooood chapters amirite

Like Camelot, for instance, with his lil shoving in of his political agenda?

Get a plane to Japan, Le Mushroom Man Nasu will appreciate the asskissing more if he gets it in person,
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>>171447135
>Sieg was Nasu's idea

Are you the same dumbfuck that keeps bringing this up like it means anything? Nasu said it'd be interesting to have a homunculus in the role. Execution is all Higashide.

>Nasu always pushes for stories to mimic the styling of his original work

If you think blatantly retreading FSN with lame stand-ins is something Higashide would have avoided doing on his own, you clearly didn't play Princess Waltz.

Higashide is a decent action writer who can't string a meaningful plot or deeper characterization together to save his life. He's good if you want well-paced descriptions of shit blowing up, but if you think the absence of complex characterization in his works is due to Nasu, you have no fucking clue what you're saying.
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We're less than two weeks away from April 1st!
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>>171448369
> Nasu said it'd be interesting to have a homunculus in the role.

"HEY MAN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SHOULD DO WITH YOUR BATTLE ROYALE, PUT A CHARACTER IN THERE AS THE MAIN WHO DISRUPTS IT LIKE SHIROU XD"

Truly ebin.
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>>171424557
More Koha-Ace servants when? Still waiting for Riyo servants too.
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>>171448401
Soon.
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>>171448315
You just made a bunch of shit up. The story is that Butcher asked if he could do so and so and got told to tone it down, all your embellishment is, ironically how you began that post, a bunch of fabrications you made so you could suck Butcher's cock.

>It's like hiring Shakespeare

It is most definitely not like hiring Shakespeare. And if Butcher can't produce anything that isn't dependent heavily on sadness to work, that's hardly a compliment for the man. Shakespeare wrote comedies too. Over-relying solely on edginess to make your stories meaningful is a narrative clutch that doesn't speak well of you at all.

>>171448315
>Apo is one

With what? Your obsessive fantasy about him writing everything that had to do with Sieg? Just read literally anything else by Higashide. It'll quickly disperse with any delusions that Apocrypha was somehow not exactly what you'd expect from him.
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Author power levels:

Go
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Stupid Brynfag
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>>171448315
>It's like hiring Shakespeare to write Dr Seuss, if you don't expect a despair fest, it's your fault for being enough of a fucking retard to not get an author who does light hearted stuff.

Are you trying to defend Urobuchi by calling him a one trick pony?
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>>171448846
UROBUCHI IS ABOVE WORLD LEVEL
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Tamamo Doge when?
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>>171448846
Dumas>Andersen>Shakes
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>>171448516
>BATTLE ROYALE
Nobody wants to read that shit, Narita should be grateful that Nasu is stopping him from writing something so fucking boring.
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>>171448742
If they don't add her I'm going to be seriously disappointed.
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>>171448846
Contest over
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>>171448821
> YOU LIED BUT I'M NOT GONNA SAY WHAT YOU LIED ABOUT BECAUSE I DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY BEYOND SHAKESPEARE WROTE COMEDIES REEEE

Whew you're truly a man of much intelligence and wit.

See it's thinking like this that made Extella such a pile of shit. Trusting Nasu with anything in this franchise is asking for one of two things. The same story again or utter retardation. His character-types are ever rehashed, his contributions are generally meh and haven't been of any worth since the original night and his one decent new char of Roman he had to force just that little bit of Shirou onto and make him used to be an autistic robot too.

Because he's Nasu, and here at Type Moon, Nasu likes his creations Unoriginal and Copy Pasted.

But please reply to this with more defense for your mushroom man, I'm sure he hasn't tired of your lips on his shaft quite yet.
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>>171449101
Same, I have been hoarding many quartz and therefore missing many servants for her sake.
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>>171449048
> Nobody wants to read that shit
> When the main complaint about Apo was that it wasn't the battle royale it advertised itself as

Nasu defense force has activated it's noble phantasm of refuting reality I see, Maximum Sasuga
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>>171448846
Lovecraft>the rest
Outer Gods=True Demons, and as everyone knows True Demons are at the top of the powerlevel hierarchy.
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>>171448914
Some authors have versatility, others do really well at what they specialize in

Though he has done so pretty out-there stuff lately, Thunderbolt Fantasy was pretty coolio
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>>171448846
Nasu > Narita = Sanda > Urobuchi => Higashide > Sakurai
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>>171449154
>his one decent new char of Roman he had to force just that little bit of Shirou onto and make him used to be an autistic robot too.
That's literally the only interesting thing about him.
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>>171449154
Your entire narrative of how Zero Accel came to be is made up, you cocked up chimpanzee, that's what you lied about. And since you appear too butthurt to put two and two together, much less sound rational, have fun writing jerkoff fiction about Butcher I guess.
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When we will get more of this Beast of Calamity?
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>>171432961
>Tutankhamun
>His Low Constitution skill gives him higher star absorption than Okita's, increases his NP guage and makes him crit harder

It will be inevitable.
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>>171447135
>Sieg was Nasu's idea
You do know the "interview" that said this was a translated by a guy who makes up a lot of shit.
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>>171449339
> He doesn't like Roman being a cute moeblob who takes on the responsibility of giving up his new happy life for everyone's sake

God-auto-pilot was shit anon, no one wants a robot for a character
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Why did they have to make Cu Alter look like a fucking dinosaur? He could have been husbando material if not for that.
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>>171449334
>Some authors have versatility, others do really well at what they specialize in

Yeah, I don't think his one trick is particularly masterful either, mind you, so let's just leave it there.
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>>171436093
Go back to bed, Manaka.
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>>171449450
>no one wants a robot for a character
Everyone does, that's why he's so popular.
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>>171449456
Wot

His dinosaur aesthetic is the one good thing about him, he has a shit-tier personality as an Alter
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>>171449035
This post shouldn't be as triggering as it is.
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>>171449536
His cute moe-blob self is why he's so popular. Go look at his art, most of it has him being a blushy fujo bait.

Very few bother to make him look like a robot because robots are shit and the lowest most disgustingly unpalatable characters imaginable
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>>171449450
God auto-pilot is a misunderstanding that gets played up and made into hyperbole over time as it turns to bullshit. He's like Shirou or Saber in terms of "not being a person", rather than actually being a robot. He wasn't literally controlled, he didn't not have a will of his own, or else he couldn't give back the final ring, he couldn't have been shit at casting spells in life due to getting nervous, and he couldn't be thought of as a wary guy in life who was thought of as blunt and foolish but people trusted him. Hell he couldn't have chosen to be born again as a normal human if he had no will and was a robot.

Its the same as Arthuria not being a person before FSN. She discovered her humanity during FSN, but it wasn't that she wasn't literally not a person.

Solomon discovered his humanity alongside Marisberry, but he wasn't a literal robot that couldn't think before that. The entire point isn't that he was a robot, its that he was born a king, so he never had a chance to be a child or be human. He wasn't controlled, he just wasn't ever allowed to be a foolish human during his life, he was born a king.
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>>171449456
>not liking Godzilla ripoff
Gay
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>>171449740
>or else he couldn't give back the final ring,
God made him give it back.
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>>171449393
I want to feed this cute oni sweets every day!
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kek
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>>171443147
He literally says that his name is siegfried.
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>>171449763
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpGK-H8tiaM

When does Alter Cu get this NP?
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>>171449393
onigashima rerun which will also include a shuten rateup
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>>171449763
Grand Berserker King of Monsters when
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>>171449875
The prospect of more reruns is making me sick. They're seriously a terrible excuse for for not having new content.
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>>171449893
Kek kino
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>>171449868
Shin Godzilla is the strongest Godzilla.
Fat Legendary Godzilla can't compete.
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>>171449024
did you know this is actually a meme?

nasu calls the beach one tamamo shark
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>>171449154
>and haven't been of any worth since the original night and his one decent new char of Roman he had to force just that little bit of Shirou onto and make him used to be an autistic robot too
I think what is interesting was that Roman did what Shirou seemely couldn't. Roman wasn't an autistic robot either. He was interesting because he humanized himself fully.
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>>171449875
Should've done the rerun on setsubun
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>>171449825
hey wait isn't that the new pokemon guy
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>>171449868
Alter Cu should get the laser beams from the back instead
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>>171450056
I recall a comic where Roman meets with Atilla, and he supports her choice of trying to be more human, saying he also went through something like that. Makes him feel like he's really made it.

Of course ingame his story with Mashu isn't that different. She was also someone who didn't know how to be human that he took under his wing, and taught her what he once came to understand.
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>>171450225
Mashu became more human when she met (you), travelled with (you) and saw all kinds of people and heroes. Roman alone didn't teach her that.
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If Arthur is into lolis, why didn't he go for Manaka? She's clearly more superior than her bland bitch sister.
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>>171450410
Because Manaka's the devil

Don't stick your dick in the devil
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>>171450086
>Wanting a rerun of Ibarashit's craptastic event
>Shit servant
>Shit event
>shit rewards
only onishit niggers want that crap
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>>171449740
>Saber
Stop comparing Saber with Shirou or Solomon. You obviously don't get what Shirou or Solomon issues were. Saber was just a fucking idiot who gave up her heart willingly to play pretend game. Same shit happened to Kiritsugu.

>Its the same as Arthuria not being a person before FSN.
No it fucking wasn't. The talk with Da Vinci referenced her saying Solomon wasn't like heroes who were born with a prophecy (Artoria dumbass) or demigods, because even them got to be people. Arturia lived like a normalfag for years, it wasn't the same. She was just a country girl who took care for horses. Likewise it wasn't the same with Gil who had a relative normal childhood, again the scene takes a shot against both of them.
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>>171450376
And Roman became human when he knew Marisberry. They all needed some normalfag idiot to show the way.

Roman knew this girl was the same as him though, so he let her out of the lab, gave her options, and tried to teach her what he could. Considering how robotic she was in the flashback, he did a lot with her in the few years he knew her since he's one of the few people she could earnestly get onto about his strange habits and get upset with him honestly like at the end of London. With other people she's a lot more standoffish.
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>>171450540
>tfw Scat + double Waver

It was easy mats and fun after you figure it out. I agree with shit servant though. Shuten a shit outside of Aoi Yuki voicing her.
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>>171450545
Shirou literally just had autism. Like not even memeing, his behavior falls within the autistic spectrum.

Solomon meanwhile was just stuck to a life where he had to do what God said and that's that
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>>171450376
Mashu was an autistic robot without any definition of humane treatment before Roman got her. Roman saved her miserable life, by the way. She would have died if he hadn't treated her.
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>>171450526
False. Manaka is an angel with the purest heart.
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>>171450694
Shirou, Kotomine and Solomon were 'empty' beings. The three were capable of fix their distortion, but Kirei never had the chance because Nasu is a hack.

Artoria meanwhile was born as a complete normalfag. She's directly compared to Kiristugu.
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>>171450545
>Stop comparing Saber with Shirou or Solomon.

It plays an important simile since she was a king who gave up her humanity and lived as a robot for years, was called inhuman often. He was also a king in a similar way, but it was taken a step further in his case. Arthuria at least was able to be human for the first fourteen years of her life, but Solomon is different since he was a king since birth. He never was able to do such as simple thing as be human, he didn't understand how.

This is kinda the point of his final flashback conversation with Da Vinci. Even a genius would still have been allowed to be a child at one point, just another person, but Solomon was never allowed to be human. Its not in any literal way that he wasn't human or that he was a robot. He just never was allowed such a simple thing as to be normal.
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>>171449679
>Very few bother to make him look like a robot because robots are shit and the lowest most disgustingly unpalatable characters imaginable

But mud is cute
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>>171450820

Shirou
Kotomine
Sakura(CCC)
Arcuied
Solomon
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>>171450225
It was a doujin I think. Altera did feel and wish for stuff (Extella makes it obvious) in life. Altera, I mean, not Sefar. She couldn't pursue a lot of that, but she still desired it. Solomon did not until he was summoned by Marisbilly.
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>>171449679
>robots are shit and the lowest most disgustingly unpalatable characters imaginable
I see you are an unenlightened man.
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>>171450809
Yes!
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>>171450820
> Fix their distortion

Can't cure autism anon.

Kirei was a sociopath desperate to feel something and discovered an adrenaline rush in sin because it was so refused to him throughout his life. He then desperately tried to find an 'evil' being like him because he didn't understand his condition.

Shirou was an autist with an obsession for a ludicrious ideal that he refused to acknowledge the flaws in, he never attained true understanding of anyone else and forever just tried as hard as he could to fit in while his autism raged. Laying down his ideal in HF wasn't even bettering himself, it was just switching obsession.

Nasu can call them what he wants, they just have mental health issues.
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>>171450881
Mud doesn't act like a robot, he's more akin to an artificial bio-organism with feelings. He has a soul.
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>>171451040
Kirei wasn't a "sociopath," he was just fucked up over losing his waifu.
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>>171450545
>takes a shot

It's funny watching someone get 90% of what he says right, and then go overboard to make things up because of a comically obvious hateboner. The scene says he's "not like them." Put down the overblown need to shit on characters and you'll sound a lot more rational.

Also, saying Saber is the same as Kiritsugu is simplifying just as much as you're accusing him of doing. Kiritsugu grotesquely overblew his pragmatism into self-sabotage. Artoria could recognize the behavior, but could also tell that he was botching it up, since it's repeatedly stated that she was always precise and correct with how far she took it.
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>>171450836
It's not the same as them, so you shouldn't compare them. Artoria is literally chivalrous Kiritsugu who Kotomine realized he wasn't like him at all (unlike Shirou). She is playing and pretending to be robotic but she's not. She is just a good person who sacrificed her happiness and heart for the greater good like Kiritsugu.

Solomon, Shirou and Kotomine, on the other hand, were broken distorted beings. Now, they could humanize themselves (in fact, I feel Roman/Solomon seems to be a continuation of the theme Nasu started with Shirou) but it doesn't mean they weren't fundamentally empty once.
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>>171451202
>Kirei wasn't a "sociopath,
Yes he was. Just another run-of-the-mill sociopath.
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>>171451202
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>>171451202
> Fucked up over his waifu

He could never love her due to his sociopathy, she herself tried to pretend that wasn't the case and was even joyful that he cried as she died but in reality he just wanted to be the one to kill her and was crying over missing his chance.
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>>171451236
See >>171451245
Kiritsugu's problem was similar to Saber's. Doesn't fucking matter their chosen method. They were fundamentally gentle people who got fucked over instead of shells who gained humanity due to some plotstuff.

>>171450939
This is accurate.
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Someone bake a new bread already
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>>171450820
>The three were capable of fix their distortion, but Kirei never had the chance because Nasu is a hack.

Are you the same guy who was chimping out earlier about everything wrong in FGO being Nasu's fault?

Also, no, you idiot, you missed the entire point of their characters. Solomon wasn't "distorted", he was flat out not allowed the chance to be human. When he got a human body, he ended up perfectly normal. Shirou and Kirei had no hope of "fixing" anything and if you think so, you missed the whole fucking point of their character arcs. Shirou is can be happy in his own way, but he's never normal.
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When?
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>>171451267
He was rather a psychopath though.
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>>171451542
>Ada Lovelace Alter
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>>171451590
How? Psychopath's generally have pretty deep passion's and feelings and can even fall in love.

Kirei however only felt things when he did wrong, aka he could only get adrenaline rushes

Which is exactly what sociopath's basically are.
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>>171451542
What's wrong with her chest?
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>>171450376
Just like children need the socialization from peers and other society and not just the parents. But Mashu started to be human the moment that Roman pulled her from a certain death, took her from isolation and gave her humane treatment for the first time. No matter who she met, she turned to him for her main philosophy in life and it was the one she cited to Goetia, because she acted as arbiter between them.

You can say they vaguely were like Kirtsugu (the post edge version was a dork) and Shirou in dynamics. Or would have been if (you) didn't just usurp her place as Roman's heir for absolutely no fucking reason at all.
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Assassin Kerry Alter who has his post-edge personality when?

Freaks out everyone in Chaldea by telling stupid jokes and running his mouth on dumb shit Shirou did as a kid leading Emiya to reeee at incredibly high speeds
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>>171451515
>. Shirou and Kirei had no hope of "fixing" anything
But Shirou fixed himself simply by wishing to protect someone badly. Either Saber or Sakura, then a miracle that gave him a new human life. It's exactly the same as Solomon getting to be human because of a wish.

Only UBW Shirou is fucked.
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>>171451590
Psychopaths are more like low functioning sociopaths. Kirei fits better with the high functioning ones
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>>171451824
No, read FSN again or those cd dramas. Kiritsugu when he's not forcing his edge, it's rather kind and docile useless guy. Shirou tsuns at him and takes care of him because he has a 'hopeless' personality. He just forced himself to be edgy.
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>>171451847
Arjuna is useless because the gods love him so much they babysit him through everything.

>want to post translated pic
>image limit reached

well fuck wait for the next thread
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>>171451315
It goes a bit deeper than that. He respected her more than anyone, the reason he gave up hope in himself ever being fixed is because if she could not help him, no one could. So much did he believe in her that he knew she was as good as it could ever get. He did seemingly love her in his own sadistic way since she was always sickly and near death, she excited him watching her suffer, but that sort of love only made him hate himself more and realize how fucked up he was.

Finally there's two key pieces that happen in HF during that section. Kotomine as they're walking into the forest gives Shirou a candid piece of info and then refuses to talk about it, saying that he can't kill the person he loves or he'll regret it forever basically in a voice heavy with derision. This line in itself is oddly particular, comes out of nowhere but its made clear it comes from some personal place that he won't talk about. Then despite saying she meant nothing to him, he finds herself thinking back to her near death and not being sure what it meant. Has a dream about her after beating TA.

It can be taken a few ways, but none of the ways it can be taken stop him from being a broken human. He will never love her as a normal human nor would it ever be a normal relationship. Its just even more tragic depending on how you take it. Even if he did feel love it would be inherently warped since his emotions were quite backwards. And if he felt something normal, I doubt he'd recognize it either. Of course all this can really mean for sure is that she meant a bit more than he would claim to himself at best.
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>>171451145
Both of Enkidu and Solomon/Roman act like robot in their own way until Gil/Marisbilly show them that they can have feeling
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>>171451363
Your comical hateboner is interfering with you reading comprehension. The difference between the two is quite significant, you're minimizing it because you want an excuse to randomly shit on the character for no reason.

It's not about "method," it's about degree. Artoria did what she thought she had to do, it's widely agreed she was exactly the right measure of calculating needed at the time, and felt happiness at seeing the fruit of her work even if she never did anything for herself. Kiritsugu was at heart a child who never fully accepted the futility of his dream, overcompensated and constantly took things too far, and was a miserable husk all the way who looked back at his life's work not as a matter of "someone else could have done this better", but rather as "this was all a terrible mistake."

One is an actual pragmatic, the other one is a manchild fucking up trying to act like one. You're conflating the two for the above mentioned reasons.
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MIGRATE
>>171451985
>>171451985
>>171451985
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>>171452005
> until Gil
> Gil

Wot

Enkidu got his humanity from Shamhat, Gil didn't do shit for Enkidu
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>>171451515
Did you miss that Shirou's intense love does fix him? Kotomine was doomed to tragedy because he's the antagonist, but Shirou did become normal in HF and in Last Episode. Solomon in life had absolutely no chance for this, he had to die and later reborn for that. And it's the same with Shirou.
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>>171452005
>until Gil/Marisbilly show them that they can have feeling

Enkidu's death scene in CCC had him literally dying still saying he's a tool and his life meant nothing, Gilgamesh would surely find more worthy and better things than him in his years to come, don't worry about mourning just a tool like him.

His self-denial attitude annoyed Gilgamesh until the end. You can say Gilgamesh gave Kingu such attention since he ended up acting the same way by chance.
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>>171452113
Enkidu was in denial because of his lack of self-esteem.
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>>171452071
>>171452005

Enkidu still acts like he is just a tool even when he came to Chaldea or got summon in FSF
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>>171451839
>But Shirou fixed himself simply by wishing to protect someone badly. Either Saber or Sakura, then a miracle that gave him a new human life. It's exactly the same as Solomon getting to be human because of a wish.

This is complete nonsense. Shirou didn't fix anything, he can still only live for the sake of someone else. No route ends with Shirou suddenly regaining normal self-preservation instincts that don't flip off the second someone else in in danger. Fuck, the last cunting fight in HF bangs on about the fact that both Shirou and Kotomine are batshit crazy all the way to the end.

What kind of fucking cookie-cutter reading of FSN did you have?
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>>171452112
>Did you miss that Shirou's intense love does fix him?

See >>171452287

What the fuck kind of novel did you read?

>Shirou did become normal in HF and in Last Episode

Aha. Right. You might wanna reread those stories because it seems you have no idea what the fuck was wrong with him to begin with.
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>>171452006
Artoria is one of my favorite characters. I have no idea where you get this imaginary hateboner from. Kiritsugu and Saber are even compared by Irisviel as being alike.

>Artoria did what she thought she had to do, it's widely agreed she was exactly the right measure of calculating needed at the time, and felt happiness at seeing the fruit of her work even if she never did anything for herself.
Artoria was exactly as Kiritsugu, a child at heart. A day dreaming girl who still wanted to save everyone and did fuckton of sacrifices which eventually took a toll in her sanity and made her self-destructive.

>One is an actual pragmatic, the other one is a manchild fucking up trying to act like one
They are both manchildren. That's part of their charm. Saber Artoria is in her 30s yet acts like a teen and her Lancer versions see her as a child because she didn't emotionally mature as they did.
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>>171452113
Nah but the same scene from the POV of Enkidu showed he had emotions.
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>>171452416
You should actually re-read it, it seems you miss the point Shirou is fixed in both Fate and HF. Shirou wants to pursue his happiness with Saber or Sakura at some point in Fate route and HF route.

In Fate route, he wants to run away, abandon Illya and the grail war because he selfishly wants to be with Saber. He's thinking about his needs and desires outside being a hero of justice. He acknowledged Saber changed him a lot. At the end, after he reaches Avalon, he completely erases any trace of being a hollow man/machine guy and he becomes filled with everything he was lacking, in other words, he became a normal dude 100%. Even if he mechanically fulfilled his ideals without her, his heart was always chasing her and this saved him.

HF is similar, Shirou started wishing to do domestic shit with Sakura and wants to selfishly cling to that. He is thinking about wanting to be happy in the scene he promises Sakura to watch the cherry blossoms together. When he is reborn thanks to Illya, he is "filled with glory" and all other fulfillment adjectives about traces of his sorrows being taken away. He became a normal person even in a puppet's body.
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>>171452516
>which eventually took a toll in her sanity and made her self-destructive.

Yeah, this is not in the text anywhere. Artoria isn't at all like Kiritsugu, she had accepted her end from the beginning and the whole reason she spots Shirou's quirks is that she knows someone who acts like him would need to be crazy.

She understands the whole futility and hopelessness aspect perfectly fine. Equating her with Kiritsugu is ridiculous, when the principal difference between them is that she has absolutely none of his naivete and can accept the harshness of her choices unlike him. You're ignoring the fact that Artoria did NOT go insane, actually endured the consequences of her choices without breaking or anything of the sort and ultimately does not regret her life.

Artoria never wanted to "save everyone." That is fucking ridiculous. She wanted to protect her people. A subset of people, from clear specific threats in a clear rational way. Her intentions were perfectly rational and she knew from the get go that it was going to end in her ruin, which she accepted. There's a flashback in Camelot where she casually comments on how the Saxon invaders weren't "evil" nor were her people "good", but rather just two sides fighting for resources and that she just happened to back one of them because that's how this shit went. She's moral, but you're massively dumbing down the character by pretending she had any of Kiritsugu's irrational dreams or aspirations, much less his naivete or emotional frailty.
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>>171452873
>he completely erases any trace of being a hollow man/machine guy and he becomes filled with everything he was lacking, in other words, he became a normal dude 100%

...what fucking novel did you read?
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>>171453153
The one that literally states warmth now overflows his heart of tin. Did you fucking skip the part Nasu made Realta Nua to show how Hero of Justice Tin Man Shirou transforms into a person and is rewarded. Literally why the ending was made. Are you that autistic to get it?
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>>171453153
http://forums.nrvnqsr.com/showthread.php/10-Questions-questions-and-more-questions-(READ-THE-OP-FOR-ANSWERS)/page1672?p=875183#post875183
Not him but read this. Unfortunately nobody saved up the ancient link with the interview. Last Episode/Realta Nua was made to show how Shirou turns from a machine guy into a real boy with his heart. His metamorphosis was in the ending too, he was in denial until meeting Saber again overwhelms him.

The original name of the ending was going to be Tin Man.
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