/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>171313790
If he refuses to enjoy the game the way you want him to, then let him play it the way he wants to. Not every playthrough has to be 100% the first time through, he can come back later once he gets gud and properly explore on a new build.

>>171314143
she coughin up some horse load?

>Also, in the second area, enemies related to that boss are exciting for series fans. Because he got a set of his armor when knocked down it was like a fan service. In addition to the series fans I was able to confirm the reappearance of a delightful weapon.
What did they mean by this?

>>171314532
Fluted & Scraping Spear

>>171314532
Gold+silver tracers

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>>171314290
They sure can appreciate lewdness. That said, there's definitely something that makes lewd stuff even more lewd when it's you in control. Someone else dressing up in the desert set is one thing but when you do it on your own character?

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This thread is now blessed by Gravelord Nito and the Pardoners of Velka.

They wont show us the area after demon prince because it takes place in dark souls I & II locations. The dreg heap harnesses the power of reused assets to give us a massive as fuck area containing several reused fanservice bosses. I'm talking artorias of the deep and ornstein & smough as hollows type of fun stuff. The actual city is comparatively tiny, but still manages to squeeze 3 bosses in.

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>>171314698
>no news regarding velka/pardoners yet

>>171314821
We already have confirmation that you enter The Ringed City immediately after beating the demons. They drop the banner and you step out of the tree log onto a ledge where you raise it. Cue cutscene and loadingscreen transition to the outskirts of The Ringed City.

The city itself is massive and takes up most of the DLC, while also apparently including numerous branching optional paths and secret things. There's also apparently a 3rd area after the city which nobody is allowed to talk about

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Would anyone on PS4 be willing to drop me a Lightning Urn and Medicant's Staff so I can get my Solaire armor early?

I'm at the High Wall bonfire, pw is dsg123

I have multiple alts so I may have something you need in return?

Pls respond

>>171314821
>>171315018
Where are you guys getting this stuff from?

>>171314532

Most of the dark souls 1 shit is accounted for so im assuming its something dark souls 2 related

>>171314927
>you will never be a pardoner

>>171315193
Japanese IGN preview of the DLC.

>>171314532
B O N E F I S T

>>171314532

Related to the demon prince? And the demon prince drops an armor set?

What is a character that could have become the demon prince, who wears armour that would excite fans?

>>171315238
Name one item unique to Dark Souls 2 that's recognizable and iconic enough that a game journalist would feel the need to point it out specifically as something 'fans of the series' would be pleased to see reappear. Note before you answer that, as a gaming journalist this person has likely never actually played a souls game themselves outside of 30 minute demos at press events.

>>171314532
He is talking about SoC and the ringed knights drops.

>>171315018

Secret area is obviously the DaS1 kiln of the first flame.

>>171315449
Demon Prince is the boss of the first area.

Second area is possibly the Ringed City itself, with the Ringed Knights and shit.

>>171315491
>reappearance

>>171315064
aight im here

>>171315449
Second area is the Ringed City itself. Demon Prince is the boss of the Dreg Heap, the first area.

Since some people are still confused about this (and gullible enough to consume blatantly false information before regurgitating it) I'll clarify: Earthen peak isn't its own area in the DLC, it's just part of the Dreg Heap.

First Area: Dreg Heap (including ruined High Wall, ruined Grand Archives, and ruined Earthen Peak) - Boss: 2demon
Second Area: Ringed City (and nothing else is currently known about it)

>>171314532
DBS

Started using Yhorm's Machete. What's the deal with the bugged moveset? Whenever I'm in PVP, and 2handing the weapon, sometimes if I hit a guy, then go for the second swing, it won't actually swing, he'll just sink the weapon beneath the earth and deal no damage and let the opponent get away. This bug is so annoying I need to use the weapon one-handed unless the opponent is clearly going for a parry.

>>171315616
The first part at least.

>>171315616

Ringed knights wield a straight version of gwyn's sword, I'm assuming that there will be knights who use a carbon copy of the freat lord greatsword, and the boss-related armour set mentioned is fwyn's

>>171315878
Nah, we already have the FUGS. It would be sweet if it was from Demon's Souls, though. A Soulbrandt that scales off of hollowing would be cool.

>>171315624
Sweet, my sign is right by the fire.

Thanks famalam

>>171315905

I don't know about 'sinking the weapon beneath the earth' but Yhorm's Machete and the Great Machete both don't consistently combo R1s when 2H to make-up for their longer length relative to other Greataxes.

>>171315996
Demon's Souls is owned by Sony. We have as much a chance of seeing something directly from there as we do of fighting Orphan of Kos.

>>171315996
Could be channeler's trident desu

>>171315414
T H I S

>>171316031
The character will sort of bend over and swing, only the swing will clip under the terrain and not hit the opponent unless they're really close. It's a weird ass thing that looks like a glitch.

>>171314532
G R A V E L O R D

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What are these tags even? Did you memeing fuckers have anything to do with this?

>>171316328
Nigga, we're a dead general on an irrelevant vidya sub-board with like 20 regulars

Is Friede parryable at all?

>>171316420
Yes. IIRC, she has some unparryable attacks, but most can be parried

>>171315997
Hm. Can't see your sign

Put my own sign down just before and was summoned but i guess that wasnt you

Hope im not doing something wrong here

>>171316483
Did you set the password to dsg123?

>>171316258
This seriously doesn't happen to anyone else?

>>171314607
Can they legally do anything DeS related or does Sony own all that?

>>171316652
Ye. Settings should be right

>>171316950
The Fluted Set is actually in the game files, unused. I'm kinda salty about it.

>play ashes of ariandel
>manage to unlock the friede bossfight before the first one.
Is it easy to miss? Feels like i've explored almost everything.

>>171316950
Sony owns the IP and Jap distribution rights, Bamco owns Yuro distribution rights, and Atlus owns American distribution rights. DeS is a licensing nightmare, but we can get similar stuff that's 'totally different and original.'

>>171317127
There's only two bosses
Friede is the main one and the second is hidden and optional. If you've unlocked friede then you've essentially reached the end of the dlc

>>171317127
The bridge is a ladder.

>>171317127
Member the Catacombs, anon?

>>171314532

it's gwyn, the boss is gwyn. Gwyn was the captain of the capital knights.

>>171315472
laddle

>>171316420

she's quite literally an NPC with a semi-unique moveset, you can literally circle around her and backstab her.

>>171317018
Alright I put it down a little further from the fire now. It's over by the chair, near the staircase leading to the elevator.

If this doesn't work maybe you try summoning me? I've had this problem before with a friend.

>>171317423
Anon, how do you reason that with the fact that Gwyn is currently stuck inside a smouldering suit of armor with about a thousand other people?

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>>171315472
It's going to be Alonne's Apprentice, and Captain of the Alonne Knights. A clone of that boss fight, only with extra moves and a lot faster to account for DaS3's broken rolls. And the armor you get is going to be the Alonne Captain set, and then you can buy Alonne's set from Shrine Handmaid afterward..

>>171317485

>beat the ringed city
>given the option of a new ending that grants you a special newgame+ with permadeath
>beating it unlocks a unique weapon and armour set
>both the game mode and the unlockables use a server-side trigger so you can't cheat them.

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Why does everyone who PVPs is over level 100 in dork souls?

Wouldn't lower levels provide more build variety instead of everyone being soft capped at all the stats that matter for them? I figure the stat system differences in the sequels helped with that

Wasnt Vaati supposed to play the DLC around 15th March? Did he leak any boss fights yet besides the bat?

>>171317834

he came back as a lord of cinder, just like everyone else does. he went to the city to find his daughter.

>>171317848

It can't be because the ringed knights are thematically connected to the boss. considering the ringed knights use gwyn's weapon, with gwyn's moveset, and it's touted as a massive fanservice, it's obviously going to be gwyn.

anyone got good fashion with Chester's long coat?
something for a sorcerer specifically
I'm shit at fashion

>>171318001

>lower level pvp in 3
>everyone still just using higher quality builds but at 27/40 or using only stat efficient gear like Heavy Millwood/Sharp Quills that will outdamage everything else
>only ones who really suffer are casters who now have even less health/endurance to sapre

>>171318001
It severely limits the potential of just about any build except for basic shit like strength, dex or quality.

>>171318001
The lower the level, the more minmaxing, the less variety.

>>171318158
>use gwyn's weapon
Not even remotely similar
>with gwyn's moveset
Gwyn didn't have the stance they use nor their multihit combo. It resembles SoC but isn't the same.

>>171318102
Vaati was assassinated by FROM so he wouldn't be able to leak any information after playing it.

>>171317659
Still nothing. Try summoning me. Maybe that'll work

>>171318001

if I remember correctly the meta level for dark souls 1 was around 80, but DaS2 raised it with its cheap levels and it never went back down.

>>171318361
DaS meta was 120.

>>171318361
You remember incorrectly.
DeS was 120 because of the 2nd chance leveltax and DaS1 followed the trend because why not.
DaS2 was 150 because it had more stats to work with and then DaS3 went back down to 120

>0~4 - buy DS3 with all dlc at full price like a good goyim
>5~9 wait one month for the definitive edition

>>171317216
Yeah, I know.
>>171317220
>>171317228
Thanks anons.

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I LIKE BIG HATS

I LIKE BIRD MASKS

I HAVE NO TASTE IN FASHION

PLEASE HELP ME BECOME A BIRD WIZARD BY POSTING COOL FASHION TO COOL WITH THIS HAT PREFERABLY LIGHT

>>171318547
Call yourself Logan and wear the hat and nothing else.

>>171318361
DaS2 put it at 150 because of the Adaptability tax, and the Endurance-Vitality split

>>171318340
Thanks, Anime!

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>>171318547
Are there even any pieces of clothing in this game that make use of feathers prominently? I can't recall any.

Anyway, Big Hat + Jailor Robes is always a great combination

>>171318808

Cornyx's robes have crow feathers on them.

>>171318263

it's a dilapidated straight sword version of the weapon, and even you can't deny it has almost the exact same weapon. WA does not count, they didn't exist until DaS3 and even then the WA is to cover the weapon in flame.

there's going to be a great sword version of the capital knights as well

>>171318878
Oh that's true, actually.
That goddamn set. Even half a dozen playthroughs in, never once have I managed to remember to summon Cuculus to the Old Demon King fight. I miss it every time.

>>171318797
No problem

>>171319018

It's so easy to miss. I don't blame you at all.

>>171318898
>>171318158
>Gwyns moveset
You're deluded anon.

>>171318263
>It resembles SoC but isn't the same.
>it resembles the boss that literally copies gwyns moveset

so it resembles gwyn then?

>>171318808
Karla's robe/dress looks kind of feathery.

>>171319213
Gwyn's moveset doesn't involve throwing lightning, anon.

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Claws, manikin claws or talons? which and why?

>>171314143
Does beating the 3 dlcs in sotfs give a different ending?

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holy fuck this game is beautiful
they've really upped the quality from DS2

>>171319550
DLC's never affect endings.

>>171319550
No, it's the kind of thing that seems like it should be relevant to the ending, but really doesn't change anything.

>>171319550
talk to a tired old man with the 3 crowns in your possession
otherwise no

>>171319514
Talons because DLC weapons are, as a rule, top tier.

>>171319631

>Brown and gray: the game

>>171319514
Claws and Manikin Claws are pretty much the same except for WA. Claws have the 2kat jump and Manikin Claws have quickstep.

Crow Talons have a pretty different moveset.

>>171319631
It is a very sad thing that 3 doesn't make more use of vibrant colors.
Even something as simple as carrying a torch and a weapon enchanted with Darkmoon Blade at the same time is more of a use of color than most of the game does, unfortunately. Most areas in the game have one particular color scheme they use predominantly and they rarely mix it up.

>>171319514

Claws are the best fist weapon by a wide option due to the WA and being able to combo L1s after landing it.

Manikin Claws are slightly longer for regular attacks but Quickstep doesn't really benefit the fist moveset due to how slow the attacks are.

Crow Talons are shit. They take away the best part of the regular fist moveset, the running L1s in favor of a 'unique' one with one of the worst hitboxes in the game for actually hitting something. The WA also has noticeable wind-up and could at least be good with Rouge on if they didn't specifically nerf Bleed on it to not trigger from landing it right away.

>>171319631
Everything looks like doodoo, your character almost blends in with the surroundings and that's not even an insult.

>>171319631
>1362x766
What the actual fuck anon.

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>11 more days

>>171320001
>They take away the best part of the regular fist moveset, the running L1s
Nah mate, the rolling R1 is god tier for rollcatching.

>>171320258
Rad getup Pilgrim!

>>171319550
Technically, no. You can get the second ending simply by talking to the tree in every location in the base game. The way he talks before the fight though, they do expect you to have beaten all the DLCs.

>>171319703
Four. You also need Vendrick's.

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looks like a smaller version of the dark sword with a ring on the handle.

I'm assuming the dark soul is dark because gwyn sealed it, as opposed to it being intrinsically abyssal?

who is the boss going to be? i hope it's not the fucking furtive pygmy or something, it's implied to be somebody we already know

>>171320438
>this is the power of PC

>>171320305

If they are right in front of you yes, the running L1 is practically speaking far better. It's fast and has almost no wind-up compared to other fist moves and is the only tool the moveset has for aggression. When timed right it will always roll-catch and improperly rolling opponent with at least one of the hits.

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>>171319821
>>171319973
>>171320058
you guys are way too critical
this is my first time playing and I'm at a loss for words

>>171320438
The Dark Soul is humanity dumb dumb.

>>171320258
Rad getup pilgrim!

>>171320551
It's a screenshot from the Bamco stream, you fucktard.

DaS2 < DaS3 < DeS < Soulcalibur 3 < BB < DaS

ds2 = goat
ds1 = singleplayer goat
ds3 = shit

>>171320412
Wait there's a different ending besides sitting in that chair inside the dome?

I love DS3

>>171320875

yeah and I'm saying the humanity is dark instead of a flame because gwyn did some voodoo shit to it, learn reading comprehension.

also, I went back and watched the gwyn fight because of the shitposting, and I noticed that the flame from his sword is "dark" in a way reminiscent of kalameet, has anyone else noticed that? I find it a bit odd.

>>171321379
Yes, they added it alongside flaming tree man. Same procedure as in DaS1, either approach the kiln for Link the Fire ending, or go back to the door for Dark Lord ending.

>>171318547
I LIKE BIG HATS AND I CANNOT LIE

>>171320258
Rad getup Pilgrim!

>>171321479
Gwyn didn't do anything to it. Gwyn, Nito, the Witch of Izalith, and the Pygmy all got their own lord souls.

>>171321582

except for the part where the gods sealed the power of flame from the ringed knights using the dark sign?

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>>171321363
Now let's take off those nostalgia goggles for a second and see how ds2 REALLY looks...

>>171320825
It is pretty, but just like BB, it has the problem of lack of complementary colors, making areas look dull and samey. DS2 does it right here >>171321934 by adding moss, it breaks the gray from the trees and walls (though it does look like absolute garbage for other reasons)

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How do I get to this item?

>>171322486
Explore the prison cells some more for a key to a door you should've already seen

>>171322486
Certainly not by opening the door directly above it.

>>171322486
>not exploring

there is a key in one of the cells that opens the shortcut to that item

>>171322486
Through bars at the end of the hall above it. you get the key from a corpse.

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GIVE ME THE DLC NOW

NOW NOW NOW NOW

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>171316419
>we are dead
why ?

>>171320258
Rad getup Pilgrim!

>>171316419
45 posters.

>>171322247
>DS2 does it right here >>171321934 (You) by adding moss, it breaks the gray from the trees and walls (though it does look like absolute garbage for other reasons)
LOL I was posting that pic to show how BAD the graphics in DS2 are. The nostalgia goggles never come off for some people I see.

But you know, as far as DS2 photos, that's a really good one. 99% of DS2 is just repeated textures over empty rooms.

>>171322565
>>171322581
>>171322625
>>171322639
This is my 15th playthrough or so but I never got it for some reason. Thank you

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>>171322247
Also, you're absolutely retarded and need to get past level 2 if you think this is the case.

The undead village is supposed to be dull and oppressive, which is why they use muted tones. When you get to other areas, they use different color palettes.

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>>171323027

>>171323297

irithyll is meant to look dead, painted world of ariamis is exactly the same. in fact the entire world is meant to look dead.

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>>171323297
Now compare to DS2:

This area is literally just a huge empty floor with repeating textures and no props.

>>171322852
>nostalgia goggles
>for a game that just turned 3 years old

>>171322683
>best girl
I'll allow it

>>171322852
Didnt you see i said it does look like garbage? I was just complementing the use of contrasting colors to make the place seem more lively, just because the overall product is shit doesnt mean that there arent parts that succeed.

>>171323027
Though the pic you posted is a good example (the drapes and carpet are a good inclusion) and >>171323297 the blueish hue makes iythill look good, there are plenty of moments that the game looks dull (even in good areas like you posted) for the excessive use of gray duing the game. Most likely for the reaon posted here >>171323427
it's intentionally somewhat dull to show the world is dead/dying.

>>171320258
Rad getup Pilgrim!

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What program do people use and not get banned for using when wanting to use playstation 4 controllers?

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>>171322686
>Maximum of three threads a day
>46 unique IPs
>46 people
when the dlc drops we'll probably get a few more but yeah, until then, we're pretty dead

>>171323691
A bunch of people left because spoilers. Some left because they got burnt out and are waiting for new content. TRC will bring those people back, if only for a while in the case of the burnt out people.

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>>171323652
Now, let's see what it looks like inside Irithyll.

Damn, just graying monochrome----whaaa?? The game actually has a variety of colors and everything you said is just bullshit?

>>171323691
>46 posters at the beginning of the thread
Yeah no fucking shit. Usually we hit at least 120 unique posters.

>>171323679

You can use them natively with Steam in Big Picture mode.

>>171323679
SCP

I use it for my DS3 but it works with DS4 as well. It just makes your controller look like an Xbox 360 controller.

>>171324078

>gray walls
>gray sky
>gray enemies
>fucking gray grass

not gonna lie I think irithyll looks good but you are full of shit

>>171324132
Yeah sure, but it takes like 6 hours into the thread for 120 posters to show up, I wouldn't exactly call that "alive"

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What's an optimal level of poise to shoot for with a greatsword build in DS3?

>>171324315
Especially considering one guy at university can contribute like 5 IPs just by phoneposting between classes

Am I crazy for thinking Bloodborne is ten times better than DaS3
I just started a new BB run after a long time and christ I just love this game

>>171324078
>>171324078
That's like, a really bad example there man, that pic like, 40 shades of gray and some fire in the corner created by an enemy, so it's even temporary. And what i said it was like, moments, not all the time.

>>171324446
At times, DaS3 can feel like a weird combination of BB and DaS that doesn't necessarily work that well. So I can see where you're coming from.

Which is generally considered better, BKGA or DSGA?

>>171320204
patrician resolution

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>meanwhile in bizzaro lothric

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>>171324298
>The fire of the weapon
>The reddish lantern light casting the entire right side of the picture into warm hues
>The player's clothes
>The frozen white-and-green grass
I'm afraid you're colorblind.

Even if I wanted to take the most colorless part of the entire game, the catacombs, it looks better than anything in DS2.

>>171323606
i want to be her slave

>>171324678
god i wish that were me

>>171324553
BKGA is probably the single strongest ultra in the game for raw damage, but it's a quality weapon.
DSGA is a strong single-stat greataxe but doesn't combo while 2H. It's a generally good option for a strength build and an excellent source of lightning damage for enemies/bosses weak to it. The WA is the strongest single-hit attack in the game.

>>171324547
That's precisely the problem with DS3. The mishmash sort of works but it lacks the focus of other games in regards to what exactly it wants to be, making it weaker by comparison.

Who is Ocelot?

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>>171324678
It's so weird to see the firekeeper doing anything aggressive, she's an avatar of submission and servitude.

>>171323691
>3 threads a day
>dead
Damn, dude. I come from generals that last for days.

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>>171324961

>>171324969
why are firekeepers so submissive anyhow? what are the lore implications?

>>171324714

a slight spattering of reddish gray and blueish gray does not change from the fact that it's fucking gray; even bloodborne had more colour and that game consisted of various shades of brown and black. raise your standards.

Lore wise, how would you rank the following subjects as they appear in the base game?

>angelic faith
>pilgrim butterflys
>the deep
>everything to do with the farron swamp, ghrus etc
>profaned flame
>firekeepers and untended graves
>the royal lothric family
>archdragon peak and the whole dragon worship stuff

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>all these fashion peasents

explain yourselves, why do you not copy my superior fashion instead?

>>171324961
You're a Child of Dragons, you have nothing to be afraid of. Where have you gone? COME OUT OCELOOOOOOOOOOOOTTE

>>171324795
It's a dark fantasy.

DS has always been dark fantasy. In DS1 you had the darkwraiths, bloatheads, infected zombies, gaping dragon, giant rats, dog zombies, gravelord dog skeletons, necromancers, mimics, demons of various types, etc.

But since Bloodborne, any time someone sees a creepy monster, they go "cut content from bloodborne" as if DS1 and DS2 were Middle Earth or something, and didn't always prominently have creepy monsters.

>>171325065

they're slaves. the gods turned humans in general into a slave race.

>>171325101
nice princess crown knob gobbler

>>171325101

>Crown of Dusk

Immediately shit.

>>171325067
You're obviously mental, if you think that a dark, atmospheric catacomb is supposed to look like some sort of technicolor funland.

>>171325168
It's not the thematic stuff that's an issue, it's the mix of Souls and Bloodborne gameplay. Just look at the Corvian Knights, absolutely ridiculous.

>>171324663
>patrician
That would be 1080 or 1440p.
That's just caveman tier.

>>171324961

the culmination of Oceiros' attempts to create a dragon. whether he is still alive or no is up to interpretation, but I like to think that the body horror maggot Rosaria comforts is Ocelotte.

>>171325168
I was speaking more a long the lines of gameplay/combat rather than visual design and themes.

DS3 seems like they put less thought into how the combat system would work compared to DS1/BB, mashing them together instead of taking a more focused route and polishing it.

>>171325413
that maggot is just me actually

>>171325096

>firekeepers and untended graves
Give me more information on Ludleth while you're at it

>the royal lothric family
Only this high because I want to know more about the Queen and what her involvement with things is. Also I wish we got to see what a pre-transformation King Oceiros looked like and see how he ranks alongside Gwyn and Vendrick

>angelic faith
>pilgrim butterflys
These are more or less the same thing, apparently

>the deep

>profaned flame
>archdragon peak and the whole dragon worship stuff
>everything to do with the farron swamp, ghrus etc

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mfw i've been playing with +0 estus flask til Irithyll because i didn't try to burn shit at Firelink's bonfire.

>>171325316

the entire fucking game looks like that retard. FROM is using a post-processing filter used by every capeshit movie under the sun these days and it looks like a touched up monochrome photo.

>>171325498

What's wrong with the combat? Everything seems to work right.

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>>171325316
Nonsense. Isn't this much better?

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>>171325096
>Propaned Flame

>>171325550

>I want to know more about the queen

she's rosaria. you're welcome.

>>171325683
Just ignore them. They dont know what they are talking about.

>>171325392
resolution doesn't matter above 720p, the only thing that matters is FPS

>>171325754
Much better.

>>171325667
There ya go, just turn up the contrast on your monitor to max and delight in all the spectacular colors you seem to crave.

How the fukk do some people have so much health in DS1 sl120? Are they using elemental weapons?

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>>171325881

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>>171326163
FaP

>>171326163
Fucktons of base health, RoFaP, Pinwheel meme mask, armor that actually has defenses.

Somehow I managed to avoid reading any of the corvian stuff from the bas games' item descriptions. There's some real interesting stuff here and if I'd read it prior to ashes of ariandel I definitely would've thought priscilla was still alive.

>Great scythe of the forlorn souls guided by heretical storytellers. The Mistress of the Painted World is said to wield a great scythe herself. Great scythes inflict profuse bleeding, such that the blood splatters on the wielder.

Combined with the lifehunt miracle telling of a pale girl in hiding. I'm actually surprised no one theorised this prior to dlc 1s release

>>171325754
What kind of bastard went around dumping sauce all over the bridge?

>>171325881
>implying FPS matters over 30

Pee sea cugs lmao.

>>171325550

>angelic faith

the connection between the way of white and its divinity divinity, and kaathe's sable church of londor, that DaS3 paints is the most interesting part of the game.

>profaned flame

the implications of it being an actual burning piece of the pygmies lord soul

>royal lothric family

these guys are interesting to me solely because they tie into the strange divinity = londor pilgrims thing they have going on, especially in the way they are blatantly considered to be related to the gods, while still lamenting over intrinsically human sufferings such as the curse of the undead.

>firekeepers and untended graves

don't really care, firekeepers are apparently blood related to royalty

>the deep

don't really care, might as well be ash lake

>archdragon peak

don't really care at all

>farron swamp, ghrus

what's there to care about? they're just chaos-warped people from what used to be the blight town region. same with the winged corvian people from road of sacrifices, the sorcerer ones even wield staves bearing parasite eggs.

>>171326395
>I'm actually surprised no one theorised this prior to dlc 1s release
Are you retarded?

>>171326395
Aldritch didn't actually consume Priscilla, he only dreamt of her and came up with the Lifehunt miracle based on his dream. Thus it's also iffy to say that the Lifehunt description is reliable.

>>171326070

>so butthurt that he as shitty artistic taste that all he can do is throw out personal attacks over and over until the opposing voice stops caring and he can pretend he won the argument.

>>171326618
Are you retarded?

>>171326854
so you are then

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>>171324714
>discussion is about level palette
>bring up a fire weapon and the color of the armor the player wore
Getting pretty autistic up in here.
DS3 looks far better than 1 (aside from some retarded texture decisions) and 2 but its color theory is aids. Probably intentionally aids because the world is dieing and everything is depressing but still.

Even in the shithole crypt level plays with lighting. Though DS3's is like 20 seconds of running so the comparison is eh.

>Using any Great/Ultragreat weapon
Boy I sure love only being able to hit people once before they instantly roll away

I also love how if I raise my sword to slam it down onto their most bodies, all they need to do to instantly stop me is hit me regardless of whether or not I just started my attack or it's just about to land

I also love hitting people, having the blood splatter appear, hearing a sound implying a large hunk of metal was inserted into someone's body, and hearing them cry out in pain, only for it to have done no damage and they keep rolling around with <9 HP

I just fucking hate how incredibly outclassed any of the G/UG weapons are by literally everything else that can attack faster than them

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>Watch Ringed City weapon preview
>GREATSHIELD MAINHAND WEAPON for turtle cancer meta
Well, there goes any build that uses weapons that can't spam attacks
>STRAIGHT SWORD WITH GREATER REACH THAN A SPEAR AND AN UNINTERRUPTABLE 4-HIT COMBO
what. the. fuck.
>Coop heal so phantoms can carry noob hosts even harder in invasions

RIP PVP

>>171326926
>Even in the shithole crypt level plays with lighting. Though DS3's is like 20 seconds of running so the comparison is eh.
I honestly cannot recall ANY color in Undead Crypt at all beyond grey. In my memory it manages to be even more monochrome than the Catacombs of Carthus. Where the hell is that screenshot taken from? I know it's the little icon for warping to the Crypt from the bonfire menu, but other than that I don't think I have ever noticed that.

>>171327052
Hyper armour, nigga. Increase your poise and you can trade more. If you don't have the vitality, 2H your weapon and you'll get more hyper armour.

>>171326702
>Given an example of what your "artistic design choices" would actually look like
>Gets butthurt

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>>171327054
Wicked

>>171327054
link?

>>171327054

>content that literally can't be reached until you are actively fondling the soul of cinder's flaming balls
>you get really good meme weapons

why would this surprise you?

>>171327052
>>171327160
Also, put some space in between you and your opponent. You have more reach.

>>171327218
>until you are actively fondling the soul of cinder's flaming balls
Do you have anything you wish to share with us, Anon?

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>>171327120
M8 you gotta explore more, you missed out on a nice armor set with a terrible drop %. It's a switch near the start of the level down a ladder or some shit.

I also think it triggers the Fenito.

>>171326926
>This crypt uses more warm colors so it's better
>The other crypt that uses a mix of warm and cool colors is worse because it uses more cool colors
OK. Now everyone knows not to take you seriously.

>>171327184

yes because increasing the vibrancy to the point that somebody threw spaghetti at the screen (and it STILL fucking manages to be almost completely gray) is a valid argument comparable to the writings of voltaire.

>mainhand weapon that's primarily defensive and team-oriented
>ranged heals for supportive playstyles
They're testing the waters for a souls-styled Action MMO, aren't they?

>>171327120
Under the little bridge, wher you can light the torch that makes all the phantoms spawn and lights the place up

>>171326907
Surely you see the stupidity now in asking if someone is retarded on a hawaiin monkey breeding videoboard.

Also you didn't even point out the problem with my post.

>Projected Heal
>Desert Sorceress top
>Slave leggings
HEALSLUT TIME

>>171327054
>implying PVP hasn't been dead for months already
Yeah try invading at low levels and see how many people don't have at least one phantom up their ass

>untended graves
What the fuck is happening? What is this place?

>>171327218
>make high level character
>get it
>drop it for your faggot host

>>171327657
Keep going. You'll see.

>>171327531
The only things good about the slave knight leggings are the metal legs, the diaper look absolutly awful without something covering it, if you combine it with the desert sorceress top it will look retarded.
You will be better of with the loin clothe or the desert sorceress legs

>>171327398

gray isn't a colour. why can't you admit you are wrong, and that DaS3 has virtually no colour to it? nothing you have said has in any way tried to argue against the fact that the colour in the game is absurdly washed out, you've just said you like it over and over and called everyone idiots for disagreeing with you. the grass being 90-100-90 on the RGB scale is not in any way a decent example of colour.

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>>171327401
>This guy is comparing himself to voltaire now
>(and it STILL fucking manages to be almost completely gray)
I found another grey picture to go along with my reaction to your post.

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>>171327657
You're in for some fun

>>171327160
I am aware it exists, it just seemingly doesn't work at the most random times.

There was this guy who was using a spear, I had Yhorm's Machet and no matter how I tried to approach he just kept poking me out of my attack animation before I could throw out the attack. Even playing passively, waiting for him to attack so I could counter, he'd just quickly poke me whenever I tried ANYTHING and shut me down entirely. That really shouldn't be able to happen at all, I should have been able to poise through his attacks no problem at least half the time. I only managed to hit him once, and it wasn't even damage, just a stagger from being hit by the very edge of an attack.

I have 19 Poise, so unless I just didn't have enough, or spears do more poise damage than a greataxe, I don't know why I was just totally shut down by this one guy with only a spear.

>>171327657
How the fuck was anyone supposed to know this shit was there? There's literally no indication that anything would be back there. What the fuck were they thinking?

Are Splitleaf and Ringed Sword going to end up being Quality weapons?

>>171327657
Miyazaki turned off the lights, vomited up some incoherent dialogue for the shrine jew and placed some blueberries behind an illusory wall.

Also he took Gundyr and gave him an energy drink.

>>171327829
The right tool against a spear user is parrying.

>>171327826

ok I have a different question, do you actually know how to read english? or are you some flavour of autistic? because you seem to have completely missed the part where I was calling you a fucking retard.

>>171327832
At least it wasn't Great-Hollow tier levels of hidden. I somehow even found it on my first playthrough, too.

>>171327852

Splitleaf is already confirmed to be STR. RKSS is also practically STR.

>>171327832
>There's literally no indication that anything would be back there.
Oh yeah, just a boss guarding a gesture, scales and nothing else. Move along.

>>171327832
The wall is kinda suspicious if you take a decent look at it.

They probably should have made that chest a mimic so there was a fair chance someone would bump into the wall by accident in combat.

>>171328012

You sure? Black Knight Greatsword also has B/D maxed and it's a Quality weapon.

>>171328131

RKSS has B/D, too. I thought it was E for whatever reason. I guess it is a quality weapon, then.

>>171328131
>30/18 required
>B/D scaling
>quality
I don't think so, anon.

>>171327686

they are not going to balance a PvE game around PvP anon

>>171328281
You poor, naive soul.

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>>171327980
>The retard is fighting back
>M....maybe if I call them retarded they won't think I'm retarded!
Just keep trying son, one day you'll fit in with the smart kids.

>>171327813
Because he's not wrong?
Off the warp menu areas:
High Wall has plenty of color.
Road of Sacrifices has color.
Cathedral of the Deep has color.
Irithyll has color.
Irithyll Dungeon and the Capital both have color
Lothric Castle has color.
Archdragon Peak has color
Ariandel has color.

Now if you want to classify everything between blue through purple through green to orange "gray" then there's nothing that can be done about that. I would love just as much as you for the game to make a bette ruse of vibrant colors since that's when I feel the game is at its best, but this "everything is gray!" nonsense is a claim that has no feet to stand on.

>>171328079
What? There's a dead-end behind a lot of bosses. Boss soul, scales and a gesture are more than enough reward. You didn't start randomly hitting walls behind Capra Demon either, right?

>>171328275
oh sweet child

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>>171327813
The grass is covered in frost!

Frost is this white (not gray!) thing that sometimes appears in cold places.

Surely you've heard of it!

>>171328275
>66 STR = 586
>40/40 = 600+

>>171328526
>Key to the Depths

>>171328131
That's because BKGS has huge base damage.
The value of a scaling grade rises exponentially with base damage, since scaling is a % of base.
D with massive base damage is enough to be worthwhile on a return per-level basis
D with a straightsword's base damage is not.

>>171328526
Capra gives you the key to the depths. NK gives you a slab. Greatwood unlocks boss soul transposition.

Sure, the gesture gets you to Archdragon Peak but it seems a bit strange to have you do this tiny little optional area in Lothric Castle just as a roadblock.

What's the best way to troll invaders that invade my friend while I'm playing with him? He's getting invaded a lot for some reason. He's 26 pyro and I'm 144 pyro.

>>171328775
Yea that was a bad example, but still.

>>171328845
Kill them and point down.

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>>171328474

we were talking about irithyll and the catacombs of carthus, which consist almost entirely of various shades of gray and blue-gray. the only colour to be seen is literally from the enemies fire and the player.

and this is only part of the original argument that the colour in the game is incredibly faded, because it is, and I actually think it looks good in the context of the game, but there's this one retard who is in here with literally no argument but to push everything to the extreme spectrum so he can stand there calling everyone a retard (which is how irithyll and carthus ended up the central focus of bullshit)

the game is incredibly washed out, it is thematically appropriate and it looks good, but people saying it is somehow not washed out need to either learn photography 101 or eat a bullet.

>>171328845
You're getting invaded because the game was balanced around being played through solo and unembered, and if you're giving yourself an entire other player to carry you through the game, then there needs to be some sort of counterbalance to provide a challenge, which invaders provide. If you don't want invaders then don't go embered and actually get good.

>>171323510
if by that area you mean that one platform where you fight an optional boss then ya

>>171329107
My friend is embered so we can play with him. It's a lot of fun.

>>171329253

tough shit, if you want to play multiplayer in a singleplayer game, that includes invasions.

>>171329253
Well invasions are fun too, so you gotta put up with it then because otherwise the game would provide 0 challenge

>>171329107
> the game was balanced around being played through solo and unembered
[Citation Needed]

>>171328845
Wear untrue dark ring. When invaders spawn, have your friend camouflage or use a white branch. Stand out in the open as if waiting for a duel. When the fight starts, surprise!

I haven't ever used any elemental infusion. Is there anything I should watch out for or can I basically infuse anything with whatever I want, assuming I have the right stats?

I'm currently 40 int/faith, could I just slap dark or chaos on an Astora Greatsword and be good to go?

>>171329340
I'm not trying to stop invasions. I want them to come. Then I want them to regret it. Isn't that what invasions are all about?

>>171329460
Don't taint a good weapon with Souls split damage. Stick to heavy, sharp and refined.

>>171329494
>Then I want them to regret it.
They already regret it as soon as they see the host's overleveled butt-buddy carrying him through the game. I don't think anything you do afterwards is going to make things any worse for them.

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>Posts a single super-washed out photo
>Durrr the entire game looks like this
Why are you still trying? Don't you realize how stupid you look?

We've all played this game, and MOST of us have realized that different areas have different color palettes; and also how washed-out an area looks depends on the lighting.

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>>171328845
beat the game at low SL then clear to swamp in NG+ and seed when your invaded then go hide in a fucked up corner with obscure ring on and branch used.

SL200 FC when?

>>171329494
You are replying to a git gud poster. I recommend you to stop it and wait for somebody else to reply to you. You could also watch some pvp videos and see what other people do when invading or getting invaded.

>>171329423

a single player game is balanced around being played by one person anon, don't be a fucking retard. the multiplayer if anything provides an in-house throwaway to corporate that keeps the game from getting dumbed down, like their own version of nintendo's level completion option they put in their mario and donkey kong games.

>"it's alright that this section is very difficult, if a player can't do it he can bring in highly experienced online players to complete it for him"

>>171329460
>I'm currently 40 int/faith, could I just slap dark or chaos on an Astora Greatsword and be good to go?
Maybe? I mean I used a crystal estoc on my int build to great effect. For PvP/bosses it's better to make it raw/refined/heavy/sharp (depending on weapon and stats) and buff it, but for general use it's probably ok.

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How is the Old King Hammer?

>>171329107
>the game was balanced around being played through solo and unembered

Well you're half right.

I stayed away from /dsg/ when Ashes came out and didn't return until a good while later. What was it like at the dlcs release and the days following it?

>>171329898
So the citation would be your ass. (You) just think your opinion is the absolute truth.

Starting up a SotFS run. I'm going with Fume Greatsword and was wondering what's a good UGS to use until I get to it? The more damage the better

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>>171329774
Another pic of dark Gundyr, which is notably less "washed out" by that horrible, horrible untended graves area lighting.

There >>171329054 I hope you've learnt something and you can stop screeching about how everything is gray.

>invaded while solo and embered
>fight!
>invader is on a sliver of health
>turns and runs, clearly trying to find mobs to hide behind
>but there are none
>he keeps running
>but everything is dead
>I just keep following
>he finally corners himself
>we fight again
>I get a backstab in
>hee takes no damage
>his character stops animating when he gets up
>floats up to me and backstabs me from the front
>somehow it takes all my health
>he animates again as I fade out
>points down
I had hoped I'd be safe from this kind of shit on the PS4.

>>171330168
>le
ree reddit ree

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>>171330168

>>171327829
Nigga you need like 45 poise or more if you want real hyper armor

>>171330008
antique

>>171330162
regular Greatsword is great and gets S strength scaling

>>171329891
I feel like git gud posters are just mad because they don't have friends to play with and the person they are invading does. Yhen they die and tell the host to git gud etc etc

>>171330398
thanks mate

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>>171330358
>>171330168

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>>171330358
In comparison, here is the same area in the original, lit, version of the level.

Notice how the "fading" effect is in fact caused by the game's dynamic lighting.

>>171330309
Connection issues will always happen. Just laugh it off. At least you have a funny story to tell now.

git gud faggots

all of you you're shit

>>171330309
>tfw never been invaded by a cheater and absolutely wrecked in a hilarious way
Kinda sucks, to be honest.

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>>171329774

you cherry picked an over-saturated picture somebody took with a camera

washed out does not = no colour

washed out = reduced colour

as in the colour has been dulled

which describes basically the entire game

they did this on purpose, it creates a visual environment suitable for a dying world, and allows them to create strong contrasts with the minority of things they choose to give a strong vibrancy, which 75% of the time is fire, again for thematic reasons.

your arguments don't show anything but your lack of knowledge of visual design.

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>>171329832

>>171330627
But Anon, even me?

>>171330664
it's even better when there's obvious cheating going on and you still win

>>171330605

it's almost like they wanted to game to look washed out!

>>171330731
nah youre cool

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>>171325065
they are literally your personal cumslaves.

>>171330129
Dsg or in game?

Dsg we had maybe 3-5 threads a day. Lots of new porn.

In game? Very active. Can immediately find summons, invasions, and sometimes get summoned as a dark moon

>>171329695
>>171329932
Alright, thanks. I'll just try it out and see how it goes

>>171330693
>expecting some shut-in autists on a taiwanese board to know anything about colour theory/ambience

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>>171330693
Pro-tip: Lighting effects and brightness can cause the colors to appear washed out. Maybe you should adjust your brightness settings.

Here's a screenshot that was released of the DLC. That provides sort of an idea for what they want one of the levels to look like.

Notice how it's not "washed out".

Fix
your
brightness

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>>171331134
teach me PLLEEEASE TEACH ME PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!!

>>171331046
>new porn
You're telling me there's a whole stash of ashes of ariandel porn I haven't found? Even the painter?!

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>>171331134
>Being so butthurt about nobody agreeing with you that you start talking with yourself
Then again, this is the same idiot that posts pictures of the game with brightness on max then complains that it's too washed out

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>>171331301
go to /ic/ and check the sticky
you're welcome

>>171331436
>assuming that I'm the same guy
lmao

>>171327398
>this crypt uses a mix of warm and cooler colors so it's better
>the other crypt uses more warm colors so it's worse
Teach me more about your autism, so I can learn about defeating fake arguments I make up in my head. Catacombs are fine, just completely forgettable especially in the overall palette.
When dealing with an area you know is going to be dull and grey playing with the lighting can be interesting, DS2 does this a lot with Wharf and the Pits. DS1 goes the opposite direction to make shit spookier.

I mean no one fucking goes "oh yeah the catacombs looked great", they remember the door to Irithyl because the borealis is the first and only time you see a range of color in DS3's environment. Like or dislike this, denying it is retarded.

>taken seriously
>you can wear different color armor so the level palette isn't grey!
Seriously, kill yourself or go back to shitposting on /v/. We've hit DS3 has good bonfire placement levels of bait or delusion so last (you) my friend.

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>>171331250

>cherry-picking a bullshot

the dreg heap is washed out as fuck, but the colour actually improves as you travel down. the actual ringed city has quite a bit of colour to it. guess why? because they designed it to look this way. you are cherry picking the areas they didn't wan't to look overly washed out to try and say the majority of the content, which IS purposefully washed out, isn't washed out at all.

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>>171331392
>Even the painter?!
Hop in sweetie, we'll take you right to them.

>>171331582
>>assuming that I'm the same guy
>lmao
Sorry, I thought there was only one person in this thread that dumb. But you proved me wrong, congrats!

Now go fix your brightness before Voltaire finds out!

I'm trying to use my PS4 controller in SotFS and the button mappings are completely wrong (X is square for example). How do I fix this?

>>171331897
drink bleach fuckboy

>>171331897

>this guy is unironically so autistic that he doesn't realize the Voltaire comment was mocking him and his shitty arguments

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>>171331897
Only if you go get your shitty eyesight fixed first!
I'm afraid that I can't say the same for your mental retardation though!

>>171331997
Just play on ps4. Theres more players on ps4 anyway and no cheaters

Is the farm for sunlight medals as bad as the farm for proofs? I'm in NG+2, I fucked up my leveling so I have to farm the medals as well as proofs since I'm too high to get summoned regularly.

I have 5 proofs left which is why I don't want to restart. But I really hope the farming for medals isn't as bad as the proofs, it's fucking agonizing.

>>171331895

*pomf* W-what are we going to do in the car?

>>171332205

I've played this game over 100 hours and I have yet to find a sunlight medal that I didn't take off of a corpse.

>>171331826
Those screenshots don't even look washed out. The sky is overcast, and things in the distance look foggy, but the tower looks vibrant, so does the character and the ground he is standing on.

>>171331803
The original argument was "there's not enough contrasting primary colors in DS3". I'm talking about how there's more contrasting colors in DS3 than there in in the DS2 photograph you posted. You're talking about how "i like da liting" which has nothing to do with anything.

>>171332138
shit memes T B H F A M

>>171332205
Concords are the worst to farm by a long shot. Don't worry.

You can get medals by invading with Warrior Of Sunlight equipped, by the way.

>>171331895
The painter ISN'T a loli

>After Sir Vilhelm led a white-haired woman to the attic of the library, he kept this key as if it were his life.
>woman

She's just short and flat which is fine by me.

FUCK ME

I SPEND 30 FUCKING MINUTES TRYING TO REMEMBER WHERE THE FUCK I HAVE TO GO TO MEET PATCHES

LOOK ALL OVER THIS SHITTY FUCKING AREA

AND THEN IT TURNS OUT THAT SINCE I LIT ROSARIA'S BONFIRE HE WON'T FUCKING SPAWN?

I'M SO FUCKING MAD

I'M GONNA HAVE TO NG+2 TO FUCKING FINISH SEIGWARD'S QUEST FOR FUCK'S SAKE

I just realized why Sirris does no fucking damage

Take a close look at her estoc's sheath
She's using a broken weapon

>>171332205
Which game? Its very easy to farm sunlight medals in ds2 and ds3.

For ds2 you need to wear the agape ring anytime you are going through an area you already cleared before.

For ds3 just farm vordt or curse tree.

Tips for phase 2 champion gundyr? I can parry phase 1 very easily, but his nee combos in phase 2 wreck me.

>>171332491
you can still spawn him in firelink, buy his shit and rescue siegward

>literally just found out TODAY that you can open the valley of drakes blighttown shortcut with the master key

HOLY SHIT

I'M FUCKING BRAINDEAD

>>171332474

she's a pygmy.

>>171331997
What program are you using?

Souls acts janky with certain DS4 drivers, supposedly the native Steam support that just rolled out works well but I haven't tried it. I use Inputmapper and I had to go through some BS to get it to work right the first time but it's been flawless since.

>>171332491
go up the elevator of the locked tower in firelink. he spawns there as well

>>171332085
Yes, I know, the mean people on the internet are calling you names again, but there's a simple solution:

1. Fix your settings so your game doesn't look faded
2. Stop talking to people on the internet until you've figured things out

Then they won't call you an idiot anymore!