/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

>n'zoth resurrects six plantbros
>they all die and leave seeds
>your hand is full of minions and you can't play 4 cards

>>171310869
Stay Comfy Plantbro

Dead game
Throw it in the skip with Starcraft, Diablo 3 and HotS

>>171310869
Stay Comfy Plantbro

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BEST PIRATE WARRIOR CARD

>>171310993
>HotS

BRUH

>>171310869
these were actually the best cards revealed to date in terms of stats and effects, maybe except the priest one

Post all the new cards, since I dont watch that shit stream

>>171311073
>eating a 1/1 to give a minion 1/1
>missing out on possibly pirate synergy
is this really beneficial? what's the point?

I was expecting disappointment and got it

>>171310878
bait, 2 of those cards are rotating and only 1 (which is rotating) is a card capable of contesting early game boards well and was part of the curvestone garbage priest archetype which I mentioned in my first post

to say that priest has early game when they have cleric, and powerword shield is just fucking stupid

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>hunter plays dred
>i play emperor cobra

lmao gg easy lemons cunt

>>171311126
Check the previous thread.
>>171304405

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on 9 wins atm, furthest i've gone is 5 before this :)

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>>171311073
PIRATE WARRIOR ON SUICIDE WATCH

CONTROL META HERE WE COME

>>171311164

To play around small removal

>>171311164
area dmg, trades, mind control tech

>>171311210

>Hunter plays dred
>I play any commonly used removal

Oh wow

>>171311164
pirate shitters trying to get cancer at all costs

>>171311220
Keep going bro you can do this

>>171311210
>putting a garbage card in your deck to tech a legendary for a class that's never played

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>>171311073
>We could balance our game
>Or introduce new cards you have to shill out on so you can't get buttfucked by clearly overpowered decks we're not nerfing

>>171311210
I mean if the threat of dred causes you to use a bad card just to maybe counter if I would say the hunter has already won

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will dredd save hunter? or even work at all?

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reminder that poor anduin has been viable the least amount of time out of all the classes by an enormous margin and this expansion will change nothing

>>171311073
that's it, final poof that the card designers have no idea what they're doing

what if they made the legendaries shit on purpose so its easier to get working decks when all the strongs cards are common and rare?

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>>171310869
Stay Comfy Plantbro
>>171310927
It would be 5 because of nzoth himself therefore always leaving 1 space for minions. Still that aspect would suck.

As far as how difficult it is to 4 cards, any regular shadowstep combo is 3 already. So if they have another spell or two that goes back to hand on death i could see it being a thing.

>>171311426
b-but he gets a 2/6 with taunt that will fuel his 5 mana 8/8 that gives him 40 health!

>>171311210

>Tech in a shit card to counter a legendary
>They just play Highmanes and smorc your face

>>171311414
the earlier you try it the better luck you'll have to anally annihilate someone into the next millennium.

yes, i am THAT GUY who plays blood knight, hungry crab, etc.

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>Can I copy your homework?

>Yeah but change a bit to make it not so obvious


You're mah man nip nip

t. team 5

>>171311416

>Dies to blastcrystal
>Dies to death
>Dies to mulch
>Hunter can't get to turn 7 against pirate warrior
>Hex
>Polymorth

Gee, I wonder

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>>171311426
you mean a 2 attack 4 mana creature with a board presence requiring deathrattle isnt going to be good in the class without early minions? what makes you say that?

@171311624
>Shadowverse invented this mechanic
You're not even getting a (You) from me.

>>171311632
Mulch is cycling out

>>171311486
seeds are not minions

>Need to save 2000 dust for a golden and legit "Explore Un'goro"
I'm not ready for a second renounce darkness grind yet

>>171311713
>Mulch is from TGT
What the fuck, I thought it was from Old Gods. Where has time gone?

>>171311781
Don't bother, its literally not worth it

You are paying two mana to make all cards in your deck cost 1 more mana. The Gadgetzan Auctioneer synergy isn't even that good since Explore Ungoro doesn't change cards in your hand

This would be alright for new players who just started and want to play with the new cards but its a e p i c for some reason

I just realized how fucking broken Elise actually is compared to old cards. Power creep is real, isn't it?

>>171311632
yeah but they are going to use those on highmane

>nobody complaining yet about how massively overpowered the new elise is

too busy discussing crabs that will never see play

>>171311337

Lost :(

>>171311780
but the plants are minions, and each time you turn the seed back into the plant and the plant dies should be another unique minion for n'zoth to summon
and when those all die they turn back into seeds

>>171311972
>elise is op
>does nothing vs aggro
>does nothing vs jade

>>171311632
compared to the old one it's a huge improvement. And as meme as it is, explore un'goro is gonna be a good replacement for old elise if control warrior is a thing;

>>171311972
>overpowered
RNG can't be overpowered, it's balanced :^) ,t- BBrode

>>171311972
What is it even going to do, it's weaker than the old elise.

>>171312131
dr. boom also doesn't see play in wild anymore.

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>>171311780
do they still take up board space? if so im assuming that
1 seed activated several times
Nzoth to spawn 5 more of the minion
nzoth dies
therefore one space left

>>171310993
hots1 or hots2?

Im gonna make a control Lakkari sacrifice deck and you cant stop me

>>171312084
>Nzoth summons up to 6 minions
>Max amount of minions is 7
>Have 7 seeds
>Seeds are not minions
>Play Nzoth
>Have Nzoth, 6 minions and 7 seeds
shaw optic

>>171312264

Those are amulets, and amulets take spaces. They just copied Shadowverse straight up. If they make the amulets not taking up space I can at least say that they came out with some good original idea.

>>171312397
zoo was already control

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Aggro will die for a completely different reason.

Everyone will want the free pack each game off elise. To get it games need to not be short so you can draw and use it in time.

People will bm and stall just so they can play elise

>>171311073
make that 'enemy pirate'
hire me blizzard

>>171312397
Lakkari is fine and pretty good actually. People don't know that the Summoning Portal actually gives you '2' Imps every turn. Most quest decks will probably be based around the following.

>A bunch of low mana cards to activate your quest
>A bunch of high mana greedy cards to take advantage of your quests reward

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>>171311972
its a vanilla 5/5 with a golden monkey that instead gives 5 random ass cards which you have no control over. Its awful against aggressive decks and is weak against midrange and even in control matchups (if they even exist this expansion) it 1) requires you to have hand space 2) gives you zero control over what you get and the average powerlevel of cards seems to be extremely low

also keep in mind that the math on the card is the same as old elise. statistically the sealed pack is going to be in your bottom 2 cards meaning that it will often be an overstatted 5/5 in 90% of games.

Just another example of a neat interesting control card that will turn out to be mediocre because blizzard only cares about the first 5 turns of the game. see: every expansion barring league of explorers

171312521
shit bait you cocksucker

>>171312521
>people will want to have fun more than win
You and I have not been playing the same game at all

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>>171311624
>3/5 for 3 mana is worth a huge downside
>When 3/4 3 mana exist with upsides

Holy shit 1 stat wont kill you blizzard at least give them something worthwhile for the downside.

It happens to every statline including 2/3 2 mana with argent watcher and is just a waste of card space when they do it since they're never played.

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thanks HS for your awful RNG cards, it really raised my mood after dragon legos, your SV neighbor

>>171311937
I would play it because it's fun.
Also it replaces auctioneer as well.

>2000 dust are worth 50€
Kill me already

>>171312521
Im just going to point out that it doesnt actually open the pack for your collection, it just puts them into your deck for that game

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cant wait for hearthstone "pros" do their card videos and get everything wrong like they do in every fucking expansion/adventure

>>171312212
Because people in wild are playing for fun, not to climb the ladder

>>171312684
never mind then.

>>171312749
No. People play to climb the ladder and they do it with the same decks as in standard.

>>171312685
Kibler called out msog almost perfectly barring the fact that he thought hunter would be at least tier 2 and that priest would be a solid tier 1

hes just about the only person to point out how awful stb would be for the game

>>171312580
>1 card less to draw for
>pack is rigged to have more chance of legendary anda guaranteed epic
>doesn't squander all your removal
>add more value instead of recycling your starting value
>>171312264
why would it be? Ofc HS devs are known to be incosistent as fuck but the current rules say only 7 minions.

>>171312864

t. Kibler

>>171312485
>Have 7 seeds
>Seeds are not minions
I don't get what you're trying to say. If you play one plantbro and he dies 5 times, then on your turn 10, if all you have on the board is 1 plant or 1 seed, then N'zoth would summon live plantbros to fill out the board. So you'd have N'zoth, the plantbros N'zoth summoned, and then the one plantbro or seed that was already there. The seed does disappear and is replaced by the plant when you play 4 cards to activate it, right?

>>171312685
the beautiful thing about card reviews is that theres so many factors that determine a meta that predicting how useful most cards will be is about as accurate as telling time with a broken clock

>>171312749

>Play for fun
>Most wild decks are just pirate and jade drood with wild cards

>>171312685
>Then the one card they all thought was shit/average turns out to be gamebreaking

>>171312795
>>171312521
every new expansion always brings out the biggest retards

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>>171311164
there is no point, just /hsg/bearers complaining about nothing again

>>171312749
people still play to climb the ladder past rank 5 and rank 5 is like:

70% pirates, aggro shamans, renolocks, reno mages
20% of secret paladin, control warrior, dragon/control priest, freeze mage, and miracle rogue
10% other

Its very similar to standard

>>171312795
Literally how can someone this retarded exist

>>171312627
i feel a bit happier too thanks /hsg/

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>>171312952
>When the "pros" said Dr Boom is shit and Troggzor will be in every deck because it's broken OP

the new board design is GORGEOUS

>>171311164
to win the mirror

>>171312920
i though you were talking about a board full of plants getting wiped and having a board full of seed, carry one

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>open elise pack
>account get charged

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>>171311972
Because it's bad? The reason old elise was even played was to make use of all the dead cards control decks have at the end of the game with high value legendary ones

This one is just some cablist tome with worse odds of getting anything good. Not even counting it's not instant but takes up a slot in your deck till drawn

>>171313268
>5 cards is worse odds of getting something good compared to 3 cards

doubt

>>171313247
Yeah, I'm talking about the future #1 Reddit post where someone has 6 seeds on the board and a hand full of minions. So wacky!

>>171311972
The odds are rigged for a guaranteed lego.

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>>171313263

>>171312901
doesn't matter what it's rigged for, there are shit cards of every rarity

>>171313210
>>171313094
I didnt have the time to watch the stream, so unable to clarify shit like that. it would have easily made sense why the prices increased if they forced everyone to get a legendary that gave free packs. Then it would give them an excuse to increase the dust cost of everything as well

>>171313345
>Cabalist's Tome picks 3 cards out of a pool of like 50 cards
>Elise picks 5 cards out of a pool of around 130 cards.
The 5/5 body is ok but the odds of getting anything out of it are slim when over half the expansion is going to be pack filler and epics are usually really specific tech cards.

>>171312685
can't wait for the cringey trump and his "hurr durr i review myself reviewing cards"

we are all preordering now, right?

>>171313684
can't preorder shadowverse expansion for some reason desu

>>171313684
Why would you pre-order after that load of garbage?

>>171312608
You know they print bad cards on purpose right?

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>>171313684

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>>171312901
>1 card less to draw for
>pack is rigged to have more chance of legendary anda guaranteed epic
>doesn't squander all your removal
>add more value instead of recycling your starting value

none of this is relevant outside of control mirrors which unless the reveals are fucking huge will very rarely happen. and even in cases such as these it seems worse than old elise. being able to get a cheap 6/6 taunt and replacing all your leftover card draw and early game removal with legendaries was incredible in fatigue decks. This new elise's cards are much lower value on average and again require you to have 5 free spots in your hand to use which in control matchups rarely happens.

Im not saying that the card will be bad but it certainly will not be OP. It just seems like another blatant Timmy card which will make for a lot of highlight reels but will have very little actual impact on the game

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>>171313684
>he didn't already preorder

>>171313465

there's no possible excuse for being that fucking retarded. did you seriously think for even a moment that blizz would print a card that lets you get a free pack every match? blizz, who phased out adventures for 3 expansions making it cost more to get good cards. blizz who just pumped up the pack prices for yuropoors.

your line of thought was: yep, they just decided to make a fun card that you can spam every game to get 50 packs a day!

jesus christ new expansions really do bring out the retards

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This is the Malchezaar of the expansion. Only shitters will think this card is good.

You start the game skipping turn one and with one less card in your hand, which is already disastrous for discard zoo.

If that was not bad enough, how in the world are you ever going to manage discarding 6 cards before losing anyway? Some idiots say you can fucking get there by turn 6? What in the fucking world? You literally do not draw enough cards by turn 6 to discard 6 cards, even if literally every single card in your deck has a discard effect. Your hand will be empty by turn 4. So if you want to make it, it means you will be forced to tap every single turn just to play your shitty discard cards and try to keep up with your opponent who plays with a 2 mana advantage every turn.

And what is the payoff? You still have to pay 5 mana for the portal and get two shitty 3/2 every turn.

By this time, pirate warrior will have already killed you two times over. And half the damage you will have done to yourself because of the insane need for card draw, since you discard half your cards away.

Jade will already have taken board control, and you will not be able to come back on the board with your garbage discard zoo. You have no board you can use to leverage tempo and you cannot afford to run any catch up cards. So the jade will just race you before the imps are relevant, since you took a billion damage from all the tapping you did and still have to do.

And if you don't go for the quest as quickly as possible, you are just wasting your turn one and a card to play zoo from behind until it gets so late into the game that you have already lost and free 3/2s will not be enough to get you to win when you stare down 8/8 golems. So you might as well not play the quest at all.

>>171313754
It was only like 10 cards.

>>171313754
Do you really think the new cards weren't fun? What is wrong with you?

>>171313345
>5 cards
>3 of what will usually be below average minions
>Good removals in the game are basic cards which you can't get
>Odds on what it gets are based on how good the rest of the set is, which doesn't look promising so far

>Meanwhile 3 guaranteed mage spells which are good for the most part is worse

doubt.

>>171313684
I can't preorder TotG :^(

>>171313958
>3 copies of shatter and spellbender flowing from my graping anus

>>171313837
>in (((spring(((*))))))

>>171313885
>What is malzahars imp
>What is controlock

>>171313885
wtf is a Nether Portal

>>171313885
It would be a neat card if it wasn't in Warlock.
It's the same thing as Jaraxxus, but without the possible life gain and minus the 3 damage out of hand.
It offers amazing board presence for longer games, but between Jade Druid and any of the 5 decks with 20 damage out of hand, putting it in the class that actively damages their own health pool really isn't the best idea.
Works great against control though, which is exactly what we need. More things that kill control.

>>171312521
are you fucking stupid
go back to r/hearthstone you sub60iq moron

>>171314087
You mean aggro-control? That doesn't need this quest and it just better off with another low cost minion in the starting hand.

>>171314176
If you don't pay attention just cut your own throat. We don't have time to explain every little thing when it's been done in the last 2 threads. Fuck off retard.

>>171313358
???
If you have 4 minions, play them and you get 3 plants to go with it. You now have a full board.

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Please help me

>Kaz mirror
>He has brann Kaz on 7
>My Kaz is literally my 30th card
Thanks Blizzjews

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>>171313684
based off that reveal? fuck no

If priest gets playable 1-3 drops and a not terrible board clear maybe but based off that reveal the game will be unplayable until the inevitable nerfing of more msog cards 6 months later after blizzard realized 5 months and 2 weeks too late that releasing unique and fun slow cards will do nothing in an environment that is dominated by 2 decks which destroy decks trying to do fun things

>>171314302
why would I pay attention to a dead game? why are you? eys

>>171313885

Oh god forbid I want to play a fun deck.

Fuck off.

>>171313613
Bothered to count, and in Standard there are actually only 26 mage spells + whatever they introduce with the new expansion.
In wild Cabalist's Tome has 10 extra spells.

>>171314323
but if you have 6 seeds on the board you can only play 1 minion

>>171313684

Nah, I'll just craft the cards I want with the dust of things going to Wild.

>>171314087
if you play against a deck that lets your imp live for 5 turns you should get out of rank 25.

And you cannot play a control warlock with the discard cards that warlock has right now. They are not compatible with control, they are all about tempo and board. You will end up discarding something important and lose because of it. And you will need a shit ton of healing to offset the constant tapping you will have to do to undo the card loss you undergo all the time. and reno is gone, with no good healing left in the format, what will you do? Tap yourself to 6 health for a couple of 3/2s?

>>171314402
Just by this anon's opinion I can savely assume that nether portal will be in the meta

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>>171313885
Reminder that there is no counterplay.

Reminder that the only factor in how well you play with this card is the cards you happen to draw.

Reminder that this is another Jade to kill Control.

>>171314063
>I can't hold all these useless arcanologist, volcanos, felhounds, explore ungoros, tar creepers, gentle megasaurs, golkka crawlers and useless quests for my class

>Majority of the revealed cards this expansion so far
Quit kidding yourself the odd of getting anything good from cablist tome are much much higher than this shit

>>171313849

Because it would bait everyone into giving them an excuse to massively jack up the dust prices, only to never make a legendary that does that ever again. You're not thinking jew enough my man.

>>171314363
fuckin EPIC xd you BTFO him rofl

>>171314590
>if you play against a deck that lets your imp live for 5 turns you should get out of rank 25.
Confirmed that you don't have any idea about the game. Stop talking, silver shitter

>>171314328
>Deathlord and Healbot
Game moves too fast for those guys now.
I loved them too but if you're gonna dick around for 15 turns you'll get outpaced hard.

I remember when Deathlord would either eat a hex, execute, or stay alive for a decent 3 turns.
Now it dies the moment I drop it and I don't have anything to deal with the 3 minions they already had on the board AND the huge fucker it just pulled out.

>>171314590
>>discarding something important and lose
>putting win condition cards into a discard deck
are you retarded or just shitposting?

>LE ORGANIC TECH CARD AGAINST PIRATES XD IF YOU RUN IT: WIN IF YOU DON'T RUN IT: LOSE
>LE IF YOU WANT TO PLAY ZOO NOW YOU NEED A LEGENDARY FOR A HISTORICALLY EXTREMELY CHEAP DECK
>shitty meme legendary rogue won't be able to run because lmao playing greedy/long game legendaries in rogue
>MAD SCIENTIST FUCKING REPRINT
>control hunter legendary that WON'T SEE PLAY BECAUSE HUNTER CAN'T FUCKING DRAW

holy shit
so fucking garbage it's beyond retarded

i expected shit and got even worse

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>>171314780

>>171314957
>MAD SCIENTIST FUCKING REPRINT
It's completely different.
This card can't be played in hunter.

>>171314780
>totally not me
>haha I only play this game ironically haha
>that's why I answer a simple question like a passive aggressive retard who can't cope with playing a bad game

>>171315039
>an r/the_donald retard shitposts in a hearthstone thread

go back to your containment website

>>171312608
Generally the low mana cost cards have too many stats.
To take example from what HS takes from, in the WoW:TCG not counting the admittedly broken old cards, the only cards you saw at 3 mana (or lower) with 3/4 or higher stats, had crucial downsides, such as requiring playing shitty heroes, deck building restrictions, effectively giving up multiple turns, taking huge amounts of damage, the card being incredibly easy to remove, or it being unplayable without meeting hard to meet conditions.

HS just has far too much stat point bloat in general in the early game, where one or two points makes a colossal difference, but in their effort to keep the game simple that just has to be the case.

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>>171314957
Cunnyverse does not have these problems.

>>171314957
>LE IF YOU WANT TO PLAY ZOO NOW YOU NEED A LEGENDARY FOR A HISTORICALLY EXTREMELY CHEAP DECK

This is actually shitty as fuck. They're pushing discolock even harder.

I need a quick rundown

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>>171315207

>Picks the most curvestone of classes, sword
>Not even the good sword leader
>M-muh lewd
>Unitonically using cunny

kill yourself.

>>171315207
Yeah
It just has one deck that beats everyone down

>>171314957
>MAD SCIENTIST FUCKING REPRINT
>Can only played in mage
>No n'zoth synergy
>Need to actually pay 3 mana for the secret
RIP OFF

>>171315325
memes and shit cards
>>171306917

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>>171314957
>Zoo when power overwhelming is being removed
I've been waiting for this shit to get nerfed for 2 years and now it's completely being removed

>>171315325
Ben fucked us
again
like every card was extremely useless

>>171315397
what if kabal lackey or kirin tor mage

not that i expect secret mage to be suddenly good, but...

>>171315171
>but in their effort to keep the game simple

This is the root of all Hearthstone's problems.

>>171315143
>getting so upset he replies to me twice


>come into a thread asking what a mechanic is
>people refuse to spoonfeed you and tell you to fuck off
>waaaah i dont even care about this game i only play it ironically


just fuck off back to r*ddit already please, i'm sure they'll explain all the cards to you sweetie :)

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>>171315145

>>171315430
What why?

>>171315325
Shitty worthless rogue legendary
Decent hunter legendary
3 mana senjin
8 mana 10/10 buff for pally
Elise reprint 5/5 battlecry add 5 cards to your hand

And some more shitty irrelevant cards
Oh and zoo legendary: discard 6 cards, get a 5 mana spell that puts an irremovable portal that summons 2 flame imps per turn

>>171314957
>needing a legendary for zoo
its going to be fucking turbogarbage in zoo

>>171315528
i'm not making an argument i'm calling you a shitposter

>inb4 replies again with an epic MOLYMEME nod an argumend :-DDDD image to put in his reddit BTFO compilation

>>171315496
I play secret mage on rank 10 already if that counts.

>>171314908
you still need fucking aoe and heal if you want to play epic control discard warlock you ultra fucking retard. and if you discard your twisting nether or hellfire at a bad time you will fucking lose. If you discard your heal at a bad time you will lose. It will not happen every time, but you are forced to roll the dice every second turn because half of your deck has to be discard cards to have a reasonable chance to finish your quest before you deck out.

>>171315430
The portal is most likely too slow for Zoo anyway, but it's pretty obvious what they aim for. PO costs 40 dust, a quest costs 1600. Remove PO and make the quest a requisite and suddenly the deck is 1520 dust more expensive.

>>171315325
There's a warrior spell that turns your deck into raven idols

I wish I was joking

>>171315747
seems like their idea is to give control warrior an elise replacement

>>171315689
>you still need fucking aoe and heal if you want to play epic control discard warlock
yes
>and if you discard your twisting nether or hellfire at a bad time you will fucking lose.
no because i'm not a mouthbreathing retard and know how to play the game

also discarding something is basically the same thing as not drawing it, you're basically saying "OMG IF U DONT DRAW HEAL OR BOARDCLEAR U LOSE" which is already very well known in the meta you 60iq ape

>>171315747
It's even worse than raven idols though.

can you imagine the STORIES TO TELL when your opponent drops a shitty 2 mana adapt minion and rolls the 30% poisonous keyword and instantly kills your dred

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How do I improve my cancer deck?

I'm a rank 7 bitch, and don't have Leeroy or Southsea Captain.

Execute sometimes removes a big taunt, but feels kinda meh. I also don't remember the last time I thought "Man, I really need Argent Horserider here". Anything to dump?

>>171315536
It's one of the cards that's being rotated to wild in the next season

http://us.battle net/hearthstone/en/blog/20475356/a-year-of-mammoth-proportions-2-16-2017

>>171315928
nah

>>171315813
It seems more like a last resort for aggro warrior than a control card.
Wallet Warrior stalls for 12 turns then starts dropping big guns every turn while gaining 4 armor.
Elise warrior is nearly the same but slightly less big guns slightly more draw.
Now remove justicar from the equation and make your entire deck into cards that you need to spend mana on before you can even use them and you still have something that dies to Jade Druid.

>>171315528
>>171315143
>>171315039
please just go back to /pol/ and stop shitting up every other board with your garbage memes

>>171315928
naga corsair for bloodsail cultist

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>>171311972

this isn't what we meant when we said we wanted sealed play ben

>>171316075
>>171315928
dont do this

bloodsail cultist is busted as all fuck

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>>171316080

>>171316150
just realized he runs bloodsail cultist lol

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>>171311972
Reminder thinking card draw is good is a MTG yuro shibboleth

>>171313268
Elise should be looked at as an extreme hand refill

you get to play a minion then have a 2 mana card to refill your hand whenever you drop below 5 cards

it's solid as fuck, and she has much higher legendary chances + a guaranteed epic

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>>171315325
plenty of slow timmy cards which will never see play in a game where aggro and jades exist
a potentially decent pirate answer


thats literally it. everything else is arena fodder. 3/10 reveal that excites only new players who havnt played through more than 2 expansions and are not jaded to see through just how fucking bad the majority of the cards will be in the current environment

If blizzard didnt despise slow control and combo decks so much the new cards would have real potential to shake things up but in a reality where aggro (which shits on combo and control decks which are not 90% removal) and Jade (which was made to counter all those nonexistant control decks) exist the expansion is doomed to blow unless the further reveals REALLY shake things up which I very highly doubt as they likely have shown most of the hype cards to try and revive their dying game

>>171315559
>Decent hunter legendary
It's trash. It's a 7 mana 9/9 that's easy to remove. Opponent can just play minions that generate value or have deathrattles into it. It does nothing if you're behind on board so it's not like it's good against decks with lots of small minions. Not to mention no hunter legendary has ever seen play in the history of hearthstone.

>>171316409
I mean you have no control over it but it's still a big ass body and a good followup to turn 6 highmane. And Sylvanas is gone.

>>171316409
only because blizzard doesn't give hunters good legendaries
a cheap leggo that deals a lot of immediate face damage would see play in every hunter deck, they're just not printing one

>>171315894
>no because i'm not a mouthbreathing retard and know how to play the game

you cant chose what cards you discard you idiot. Or are you telling me you just wont play the discard cards? so now you have played an irrelevant quest you cant finish, plus your deck is filled with cards that you cannot play because you of the risk of a bad discard. amazing. tell me more about your amazing techniques.

>also discarding something is basically the same thing as not drawing it, you're basically saying "OMG IF U DONT DRAW HEAL OR BOARDCLEAR U LOSE" which is already very well known in the meta

and you are rigging the chances against yourself with discards. if you dismiss discards are being "anti draws" you are still lowering the consistency of your deck.

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>>171315207
Of all the waifus in waifustone to post why post the boring dyke?

>>171316552
7mana 9/9 is too slow man

>>171315954
>It's a cheap card and we don't want that warlock players use cheap cards all the time for 3 years now
Fuck off blizzard

>>171316409
9/9 beast for 7 mana is already worth it

It removes anything they play and can also attack o n your turn. It's a good hunter legendary believe it or not

That taunt discard thing is so atrocious lmao

>>171316335
Hearthstone has always been spike fodder with some unplayable "timmy" cards on top.
Johnny is dead.

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>>171316409
it's a 7 mana 9/9 beast that requires hard removal and fucks with your opponent's turn. it will see play

>>171316409
>Opponent just has to have 4 minions he can discard on his hand
Gone full retard there bud

Elise is so good I can't see how you people might think she's bad.

I mean the most similar card I can think of is Cabalist Tome and it's a staple on pretty much every slow mage deck.

>>171316856
fuck off toast

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>>171316075
>>171316221
Do I remove Execute for Brawl or some other meme card?

Pic. related = poor man's Leeroy.

>>171316856
m8, if highmane is too fuckin slow, this is also too fucking slow

>>171316723
>>171316856
>>171316864
Shieldbearers detected

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>want to make Nether Portal control lock deck
>absolutely detest any kind of rng effect
will these fucking developers ever learn

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>>171316616
I can deVOU~rrr your dreams <3
You won't wake up ;)
Now close your e~eyes >:3
I want to die in my sleep and eternally stay with her

>>171316925
just craft leeroy

>>171316925
I'd play bash instead of execute but I don't really play pirate warrior so I don't know how to build it either.

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>>171316953
but anon, tar golem is going to slow the meta down!
god i hope so

>>171316953
>highmane is too fucking slow

no it's not
hunter is shit because it didn't actually get any cards in the biggest powercreep expansion the game has ever seen yet and it can't run pirates

highmane is still the best 6 mana minion in the entire fucking game and it's still very much worth running in midrange hunter
this just smooths out midrange hunter curve into turn 7 dred turn 8 krush after completing the "Life finds a way" quest: Summon 3 dinosaurs with more than 6 attack - Reward: at the start of your turn, add a King Krush to your hand

>>171317275
yeh with a slow meta swamp king will be a perfect addition to all those other great hunter lategame cards

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I push my daggers into my EEEEEEEEEEEYES

>Explore Un'Goro
The new Renounce Darkness, a.k.a. the meme card.
>Tortollan Shieldraiser
Good in N'Zoth decks and it's good for the Priest Quest but, it's a fucking 4-drop, as if Priest really needed more of those.
>Lakkari Sacrifice
Really pushing that Discolock archetype. On the other hand, you could play this in a control deck and complete the quest in one turn using Deathwing.
>Lakkari Felhound
Again, muh Discardlock. Great stats though, nice Evolve Shaman and Ironforge Portal buff.
>Arcanologist
Mad Scientist reprint, good for thinning your deck and snatching that Ice Block.
>Elise the Trailblazer
Wacky effect, but it's probably not as good as original Elise. It has the Malchezaar vibe, everyone will go crazy over the new Elise until they realize that she's just dust bait.
>Golakka Crawler
Proof that Blizzard can't design their game for shit.
>Tar Creeper
More like Tar Powercreeper.
>Dinosize
Nice Timmy card.
>Sherazin, Corpse Flower
Hard to tell, probably bad because you'll maybe get to revive it only once per game.
>Swamp King Dred
"Give your opponent's minions Charge." awful card, and with Adapt being a cool new thing that everyone will use, just summon a minion, hopefully get Poisonous and bam, you've killed their 7-Mana 9/9

Play highlander controlock (no reno but kazakus is still here) with quest and deathwing.

>>171314756
you can't possibly be this retarded

even if they jacked up dust prices to 1600 an epic everyone would just have to craft one and spam matches with it for hundreds of dollars worth of free cards to complete the expansion collection. and then everyone could just dust all the free packs to get a gorillion dust to craft shit from future expansions

i can't believe you're still trying to justify being that stupid

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So this is intended to be the filler slot for 5-drop now since Azure Drake is getting rotated out?

>Turn 5 this Legendary
>it dies on opponent's turn
>Turn 6 you do your Miracle Bullshit and bring it back to life

>>171317094
Only have like 400 dust, otherwise I would.

>>171317607
this would only see play if it had charge

>>171317607
>turn 5
Are you playing Overload Rogue?

>>171317607
Oh it's 4 mana I thought it was 5.

Still think it's an Azure filler?

I predicted arcanologist, dinosize and the crab but sadly no one screencapped my post.

>>171317607
>Turn 6 you do your Miracle Bullshit and bring it back to life

Wow you pay 4 mana to get a bad card, and as a reward you get to revive it ONCE over-extending even the regular miracle play count.

>>171317607

The only way this card will see play is if there's an upcoming Rogue card that gives plants Charge, or if there's cards in JUG that generate tokens like Barnes and Shadowcaster to cheaply activate the effect.

>>171317883
>not screencapping you're own post and pretending your someone else when you post it
you fucked up m8

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>>171317883
Dinosize is going to be the absolute shit.

10/10 on a token hero power? Or a charging 1 drop bore? This shit be broken yo.

Expect this legendary to be in many decks.

>>171317607
Hold up that's the rogue legendary? That's awful and you'll likely only revive it once and that's only if you're ahead

>>171317883
>predicted forced archetype support, shit pally buff, and anti-pirate card
the only one that is somewhat a legit call is the pally buff, but even then pally is in the "give this class shit" rotation

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>>171317356
Go away, you ugly cunt.

Our girl Maiev, when?

>>171317607
people keep looking at that like a sticky minion.
It's an enchantment on a stick. You play it, it eats removal or a 2 drop and then all game you get the potential for a bonus in value.
Remember when people called justicar bad?

>>171318182
>Remember when people called justicar bad?
She's awful outside of Warrior and Priest.

>>171318182

Except Justicar IS bad outside Control Warrior and Reno Priest.

>>171318132
I predicted a 7+ mana paladin spell, a tutor and dixit "a hungry crab for pirates"
>>171318101
it's already good in boomkin, I want to see more of it now that we got some decent beasts, but we lost azure drake so meh.

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CRAWLING IN MY SKIN

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>>171318101
It's another 2 card combo except it's not as effective as Leeroy+Blessed champion when you got Buffadin cards floating around.

>>171311426
Priest is really boring to play against

>>171318401
It's not power creep because tar creeper in't a beast.
>>171318452
or it's a one card burst considering paladin will find a way to start a turn with a token on bard at some point

>>171316335
optical illusion I assume?

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>>171318452
>A Dinosize'd Blessed Champion

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>>171318401
THESE WOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEAL

>>171318609
>>171318101
>>171318452
>we don't like charge mechanics and burst from hand
>make this

at least lantern of power required to you play archqueef first. This card is going to cause so much asshurt.

>>171319037
>Hurr durr King Crush is such a good card paladin will surely run a 2 card combo to emulate it.

Is /hsg/ actually this fucking bad?

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>>171315360
These pair are the only good thing to come out of that game desu

>>171318175
1 M O N T H
M
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T
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Shame they're just giving it to you for playing HS. Literally everyone and their mom will have this hero and you'll see it even more than Morgle or Liadran. They should have atleast required you to play Diablo, or SC start editions.

>>171317275
damn Varian is rotating out. That makes me sad.

>>171312864
Kibler is the best

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>>171319471
Thanks, Kibbles!

>>171317607
Tomb Pillager

>>171319610
rotates out

>>171319289
>t. shieldbearer
it's not about it being good its about it being retarded game design. It's just one more thing to surprise lethal you from some random discovered bullshit. Hell just the fact it exists is amazing for ivory knight.

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>>171318175
This is so dumb.

She's a Warden, not a Rogue. She goes after Demonhunters, literally nothing roguish.

They really should have made an Undead Rogue hero portrait.

>>171319737
>Paladin gains 8 Health
Oh he's got a Lay on Hands

>after JUN
>Paladin gains 8 health
>have to wonder if he's going to pass next turn to fill hand and gain more life or suddenly break my face
You should be excited for all these new layers being added tot he game.

Is wow more or less jewish than hearthstone? Has blizard always been a shit company?

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>>171319828

>>171320089
Pre-2009ish Blizzard were top tier

>>171319828
Tfw no undead or gobbo rogue hero.
Tfw no whitemane priest hero.
Tfw no gnome warlock.

People were hyped about midrange beast hunter when Gadgetzan was coming out.

Prepare to be disappointed again.

Did they say when or if the daily login rewards start?

>>171320089
a subscription based MMO is about the most jewish thing in existence.

>>171320089

WoW is way less Jewish. You pay the $15 a month and that's that, no P2W bullshit.

And Blizzard was fine until they merged with Activision.

>>171320089

They were one of the best during 90s. They turned to complete shit after Diablo 2. Once you go jew you don't go back. WoWmunnies ruined them.

>>171319572
"Thanks, Kibbles"

>>171319289
king krush is a decent card decks that aren't hunter

>>171320186
>pre activision merger blizzard were top tier
what did he mean by this?

>>171319828
Nah, the forsaken should have been written out of the lore at one point but muh MMO

>>171320567
he meant that before Blizzard sold out they made the best games on the market. Vanilla/BC WoW Starcraft Warcraft III Diablo II etc etc

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But what if we had Common Quests, as well?

>>171320916
But what if you stopped littering the thread with garbage that doesn't exist?

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Could there theoretically be a super deck out there that no one has discovered yet?

Serious question.

>>171321191
No, brode.

>>171321191
No.

>>171320916
This whole expansion gives off a completely different vibe than the actual zone. Fuck these fucking faggots why are they so allergic to use actual shit from the game.

The cards are shit and won't do crap against MSOG cancer and the theme is absolute shit as well. Fuck this shit I'm out.

Never gonna touch anything Blizzard related ever again.

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>>171321191
Nobody found the unicorn priest yet

>>171321191
yes, but it is very unlikely because of the small card pool.

>>171321304
top kek

>>171318394
>>171317883
>I predicted a 7+ mana paladin spell, a tutor and dixit "a hungry crab for pirates"
yes because nobody on hsg has ever, not once, predicted those things. you are the very first and only one ever to predict the totally original and outlandish concepts of a hungry crab reprint, a late game paladin spell and a tutor


fuckin spergs i swear

>>171321334
I wanna find it.

>>171317883
I predict that you have a micro penis.

>>171321747
you could try egg druid

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>>171321191
game is too simple and 'on rails' for the meta to ever really be fluid. Its the league of legends of card games

>>171322063
>game is too simple and 'on rails' for the meta to ever really be fluid

this only became the case after GvG. before this the meta was extremely fluid for a long time, not even zoo lock lasted.

right now we have 3 pre-conceived decks steam rolling everything, with slight changes in Legend to counter specifics of the stock decks. they need to end the fucking gimmicking.

The rogue legendary has the worst art I've ever seen for a legendary. It's like filler common level design.
Fire their art directors already.

>>171322293
its appropriate: its effect is also filler common tier

ill stick around for all the card reveals but i doupt they ll get me to not uninstall this game. Shame but the more they distanced themselves from wow lore the shittier this game got

>>171322607
>wow lore

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>>171322063
>Its the league of legends of card games
oh shit
league is the only game I play regularly other than hearthstone
how did I not see this

what are some league of legends of other game genres?

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So the druid quest will pretty much be something retarded like play x beast?

So Shaman will still be #1 in the new xpac right?

team liquid throws lol

Reminder, Ungoro has the most legendarys of any set and most of them are shit

Thanks for the advice guys, pirate warrior is quite good to me. However playing against pretty much any type of shaman feels like an easy loss.

>>171322712
>>171322607

>wow
>lore
pick one

>>171323086
the fuck did you get this information?

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>>171322607
>complaining about lore in a card game

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guys, guys Ouroboros got buffed

>>171323276
23 legendaries instead of the usual 20.
Classic has 33.
GvG has 20.
TGT has 20.
Old gods has 21.
Gadgetzan has 20.
Ungoro will have 23 legendaries.

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>>171322607

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>>171323127
git gud

>>171322949
quest: gain 4 empty mana crystals
reward: your jade counter is 2x

>>171322949

>Gang leaders forced archetypes in meme streets
>Quests will force archetypes in ungoro

Man, I love how blizzard leaves so much space for deckbuilding

Play casino mage.

3 games in a row get bladefurry from Spell Slinger.


The fuck.

>>171323323

Too be fair, it's barely a cardgame. Lore and pretty sounds and animations is everything they got.

>>171323742
>Not using it with Medivh's staff to clear the board AND summon a Doomsayer so you can secure lethal next turn
pleb

>>171323493
>un'goro has the most legendaries of any set
>23 legendaries in un'goro
>33 in classic
>most legendaries of any set
>classic has 10 more legendaries than expected from un'goro
Math is hard.

>>171323493
>23 legendaries instead of the usual 20.
Nope, it's much worse. Of those 23, 18 are class specific.
I can't wait to waste my pity timer on a trash Rogue legendary.

>>171313345
One gives you purely random cards the other guarantees your spells form the best spell based class.

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why are people heralding this as Renos 2nd coming? At best it will come out on turn 8 if you curve out perfectly and dont need to spend a turn healing or using removal. Realistically it would come out even later, maybe turn 10 or 11.

If you are surviving that long against aggro you already won.
If you are playing against jades and arnt winning the game within the next couple of turns you already lost.
If you are playing against another slow control deck you are hallucinating as that would never happen in a meta where jades exist.
If you are playing against a combo deck it would be good but then you remember that combo decks are all being killed off because blizzard doesnt like OTK.

I have been playing on and off since beta and have played almost nothing but priest with it being my only gold class with over 5000 ranked wins across the account and while I want this card and archetype to be good so badly I cant help but think that it will have no place in the current environment and will just become more wild nzoth priest fodder

>>171323742
Have you complained about DESIGN SPACE in the recent past?
Because Blizz decided you didn't appreciate all that design space made by nerfing blade flurry

>>171323886
I was not that guy, just providing information on the amount of legendaries. But yeah, I doubt they will ever release an expansion as big as Classic so it will always be the biggest one.

So what is the Nether Portal?
I've just come home and I missed out on everything.

>>171324012
this could be excellent against those midrange decks that have historically been very strong even if they're pretty weak at the moment like jade shaman, secret paladin, dragon priest, memerange hunter, etc.

they give you enough time to play this, the health is very relevant and you have by no means automatically won at turn 10

>>171323925

Literally no difference from opening shitty neutral legendaries

As a reminder, meme streets had 8 neutral legendaries, which include Beardo, Sally, Genzo, Goya, Wrathion and Noggenfogger

At least with class specific cards they can at least try to do cool stuff

>>171311073
This card will make beast Druid viable

>screencap this

>>171324337
hi kibler

>>171324405
>druid
>not viable

>>171313885
You can always not activate the quest on t1 and play your possessed villager if you really want to go for Disco zoolock. You don't need to activate it until you want to discard cards. You have 1, 2 and 5 mana cards that discard cards (mostly) so it's not like you can't fit a 1 mana spell into your mana curve.

You could always make a control warlock with discard cards if you're going for the quest. You don't have any problems with card draw, espcially not with Malchazar's imp.

>>171324012

Why would anyone ever play anything other than wild? It's same shit as standard except you get to put Mal'Ganis in your Renolock and nothing ever rotates out so you never have to pay for anything.

>>171324257

Its a 5 mana spell that summons a non-minion permanent that summons two 3/2 demons at the end of your turn

>>171323493
Hopefully they cut down on neutral legendarys

Those are always garbage now because they're scared of another dr boom

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these card reveals were fucking AWFUL and you're a FILTHY BLIZZARD SHILL if you think otherwise.

this game is DEAD AND BURIED.

RIP IN PISS Hearthstone 2014-2017

>>171324257
its a "board state" that cannot be destroyed and summons 2 3/2 imps at the end of every turn. It requires the warlock quest to be complete which is discard 6 cards.

first impressions are the card is likely one of the worst reveals. zoo isnt giving up its turn 1 for a bit of late game security, a control deck revolving around losing value will never -ever- be a thing, and midrange very likely wont happen unless the reveals are great with how oppressive the current game environment is

tldr: timmy card which looks fun but probably wont be good because blizzard despises fun decks

>>171324591
That's what they did. 2 legendaries per class and 5 neutral legendaries.
One of the class legendaries will be a quest card, the other a normal one.

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>tfw just ate 2 buckets of KFC by myself

>>171324337
Your "argument" doesn't hold up when flipped on its head, i.e. opening a good Legendary.

In the past it was more likely to be neutral and therefore playable in more decks.
Now you will likely be locked to a class and therefore have less variety in your play styles.

>>171324591
Yeah, that is sure going to help use. Instead of crafting the 1 good neutral out of the 11 shitter and use it in most classes, now you might need to craft 1 lego per class.

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>>171324334
I understand what you are saying but im talking about standard here. Jade shaman in its current iteration is just an aggro deck with a handful of midrangish cards and removal tossed in. Secret paladin and Dragon priests are no longer a thing and midrange hunter -currently- doesnt exist but may come about.

Thats why im confused as to why people are gushing about how good it is when a lot of the "ifs" associated with the card are depending on the meta changing significantly which unless the reveals are mindblowing or there are additional nerfs I dont see why this would be the case

I can see why its a very good card to have around in wild where priest actually has the tools that are absent in standard but from a standard perspective I simply dont see the card being anything but a timmy card that will make for a few highlight reels while not really impacting the game much.

P.S.: I want to be wrong

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fucking chinks

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Thoughts ?

>>171325313
Moron.

>>171325313
>Tar Creeper
>Good
>Potentially Amazing
PETALUL

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>>171325313
jpg is better.

>>171325442
here you go

>>171325180
the card -currently- doesn't exist either so it's pointless to think only about the current meta

in the right meta this card should be very strong

>>171325474
>3 mana 3/5 with potentially good elemental syngergy

>>171325313
I can agree for the most part.
Tar creeper doesn't seem that good and Swamp King Dred has the downside of being really bad against certain decks. Lakkari Sacrifice also seems really risky in Disco lock since it reduces you hand size to 2.

>>171325313
all 3 of the predictions in row 2 other than arcanologist are awful

also if by discardlock you mean the aggressive zoo discard that is fringe today then no. If you mean some potential midrange discard deck which could come into existence throw more reveals then maybe.

>>171324836

Oh man, you're so right, yeah, neutral legendaries are really the way to go, you convinced me anon

Look, with cards like Nat, the darkfisher, boogeymonster, madam goya and wrathion really show how neutral legendaries are the to go. Man, I can put them in so many decks

>>171324334
>jade shaman
>weak at the moment
Huh?

>>171325626
>pointless to think only about the current meta
no its not, especially considering how oppressive the current standard meta is when even wild has been taken over by the same decks. Also a big part of the post was to say that people are dumb for hyping the card when it being good is dependent on changes in the meta which is basically what you mirrored

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How fun will this be?
0 because it's an epic and I won't be crafting it for meme decks.

Do we all agree with this?

>Trash Tier
Explore Ungoro
Dinosize
Verdant Longneck
Gentle Megasaur

>Fringe Tier
Swamp King Dread
Tar Creeper
Lakkari Felhound
Lakkari Sacrifice
Volcano

>Ok Tier
Sherazin, Corpse Flower
Golakka Crawler
Pyros

>Good Tier
Tortollan Shieldraiser
Arcanologist
Elise the Trailblazer

>Great Tier
Awaken the Makers