/svg/ - Shadowverse General

First for unkoboros

UNKOBOROS!

Dragon is still tier 1 next expansion if it ramps properly. Breath of Salamander is still an OP card. Stop crying babies.

fuck Unkoboros

>>171304630
Stop shitposting, autist.

I just called cygames and told them to make dragon great again
So no worries guys it'll be fine

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sorry about your loss, dragonbros. maybe next expansion?

8pp do nothing

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Here's how the last unrevealed dragon gold can still save Dragoncraft:
>Hear the Dragon's Roar: 5 PP gold Dragoncraft amulet
>Can evolve an allied Dragoncraft follower each turn for 0 evolution points if Overflow is active for you
Have faith in Cygames guys

>>171304685
just filter and ignore

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Reminder that you have a Silver and a Gold left, Rowen! Remember Khawy (sorry) was a Silver, and Jungle Protector was a gold!

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>>171304118
And you post this while I was listening to this.

>>171304758
Broken card. Stupid concept.

>>171304740
>the crystal breaks in half
Noo ;_;

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>everyone is calling dragon shit/dead ext expansion
>remember that /svg/ is literally wrong about everything
Not sure what to think of dragon now.

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Guys, it's time to go back to Face Dragon and leave Ramp behind.

Just run your Forte Trio and you'll be fine next expansion.

T0
Zell storm OTK dragon

T1
Serpent Blood
Control Forest
Lecia Sword

T2
Elana Aegis Haven
Midrange Shadow
Nephtys Shadow
D-shift Rune

T3
Tempo Rune
Aggro Sword

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Pray to FUG and maybe your gold will be good.

http://www.strawpoll.me/12537758

http://www.strawpoll.me/12537776

>>171304851
Your fucking brain is broken.

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need a concede
53874

I'M A DRAGON PLAYER AND I'M DROPPING THIS PIECE OF SHIT OF A GAME

>10pp
>8 storm + 10 ward
How is this even remotely balanced, its literally better than the 8/8 storm satan card

>>171304630

>Breath of Salamander
>OP

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Look on the bright side, Dragonfags: at least your legendary doesn't kill your own monsters and buff your opponents.

>>171304970
Cygames made a Fairy-only 3 mana freevo card, what makes you think they'd make a 5 mana free-for-all. Even Olivia is 9 mana. Get real kiddo.

I fucking hate dshift with passion

They need to make it so only followers with a certain amount of attack can go after using that bullshit card

People bitch about Albert when these faggots can execute you at 15 defense

What a fucking joke

>>171304968
I'm going to start reporting all strawpoll posts.

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>>171291254
nevar forget the dragons roar /svg/

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>>171304847
>I should be
>Windows classic
Know this, you will forever be my nigga

>>171305005
Enhance is a cancer effect. Both the individual enhance parts are good in this case so it's double cancer.

>>171304970
Ignore him.

>>171304630
Does Salamander cleans 5 Maelstrom Serpents for 6 mana? No? Then fuck off.

>>171305105
>they can execute you at 15 defense
They can execute you at 20 through a goblinmount and 2 imprisoned dragons if they want to

Remove D-Shift and get ready for 15 minute per game control meta

>>171305105
>15

You die with full hp, deaths breath and 2 khawy on board against that

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future generations will look back on this day and ask: where were you when dragon was eternally cucked?

>>171305073
>5 mana free-for-all
-Dragon followers only so no neutralcraft shit shenanigans
-Overflow required

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>it's a combo class without any card draw episode
what the fuck???

In the end, ToG has 2 legendaries for each class only to disappoint Dragonbros even more.

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>>171304740
>Paradise LOST

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>Another 3 months of this

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I feel bad for Rowen. His memes made me smile everyday.

>hip-hip hooray
Can't come up with this shit.

Dragonfags have been suffering enough and it will keep going, perhaps, forever.

Now, it's time to let him rest.

I doubt that the website is legit
No way cygames would reveal the big poster legend

>>171305245
I had a game like that today against elana
I mean it's fine every now and then
But I don't want 25 turn games every round

Once in a while it's fun

>>171305292
>Overflow required
Wow, something Rowen can force on turn 4 so they can do it on t5 huh? Cool, no, fuck off.

>>171305105
>People bitch about Albert when these faggots can execute you at 15 defense
dude, literally nothing on this earth can stop triple dshift

unless you can summon 5 frontguard generals before they do it

>>171305073
I forgot, every class is allowed to have bullshit cards except dragon

>>171304918
Yeah except every SV communities are saying it's shit, not just /svg/

Friendly reminder to ignore all namefags/tripfags for a nice a and comfy thread.

>>171305362
https://twitter.com/GameAI_jp/status/842749047366541312

>>171305435
>comparing evolving a fairy to evolving infinite cancer stormshits
Because that is literally what it will be used for.

>>171305387
I know right, overflow is such a fucking amazing, easy to use mechanic, both of the most popular dragon decks ignore it entirely

>>171305519
How do i fikter this literal retard on moble?
Forgot how to

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>tfw May misses
I was blessed this day

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On the plus side, at least we're not Hearthstone

>>171304660
>>171304621
>>171304603
Fucking weeaboos

>>171305586
Do not reply to him, newfriend.

>>171305435
There's broken and then there's just plain retarded. Learn the difference.

>>171304976
thanks homie

>>171304918
anyone saying dragon will be "dead" next expansion is probably exaggerating, we don't know that yet because people might just come up with a viable deck even if dragon has to resort to neutral cards again

but every SV community out there sees through cygames's bullshit with unkoboros

>>171305553
I wasn't talking about titania when I said bullshit cards
But we both knew that already and you just wanted to shitpost

>>171305653
I don't know. I'm not posting from my phone.

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Who dragon main here?

Journey to Un'koro.

>>171305105
>Ouroboros could have had the effect of discarding both player's hands then have them redraw the same number of card
>This would have nerfed D-Shift, Runes, even Swords since getting an early Albert wouldn't mean anything
>Instead, take 3 damages

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how do we make this good

>>171304994
Can't get through Zeus

>>171305662
That looks like fun though

>>171304918
>le /svg/ is always wrong

fuck off r3ddit

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60991
Onegai

>>171305662
What exactly does discover a card do?
>replace your deck
What?
SO every card in your entire deck is now that card?

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>>171305408
>people think Roland is going to stop D-shift too
>When two flame Destroyers and two Dshifts is still 16 damage without an evo point
>when petrification exists

D-shift will never die, and will always enforce a r/p/s meta.

>>171305695
Yes yes I know, sword is allowed to shit out storm and rush every turn and deal 10 damage turn 9, but god forbid dragon gets a non worthless overflow card

>>171305010
Haven never relied on its legos aside from Seraph decks though.

wait guys

what if

you mix oroboros with wind reader zell

>>370820361

>>171305662
>Seems like a major criticism of our game is the reliance on eng
>Lets make a card that is literally "RNG EVERYTHING!"

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>>171305790
>>171305780
>>171305707
>>171305586

>>171305780
I doubt anyone here "mains" anything unironically. Everyone has multiple decks and since the skill cap for this deck is so low, they're bound to have similar decks they can pilot with the same success. I climbed to AA3 from A using 5 decks after all.

>>171305724
Oh, I overlooked that. You're right and now I have decided to stop nameposting to avoid the shame. Farewell, I shall never use that name again.

>>171305790
make it not hit enhanced cards so you can save your salamanders

there now people might be able to make a working deck around it

>>171305790
Make it draw 1 extra card per turn in overflow, and not effect enhance cards (Breath of the salamander, etc)

>>171305857
Discover gives you three random cards, usually of a specific group, and you choose which of the three you want. Yes, this card turns your deck into nothing but random cards.

>>171305707
>anyone saying dragon will be "dead" next expansion is probably exaggerating
More like what works this expansion will probably still work next expansion as well, its not like they nerfed our Fortes or anything.

>>171305916
Apparently neither has dragon either, aside from Forte.

No one wants shitty legends.

>>171305662
Fake now fuck off please.

>>171305790
>Are you sure you want to Liquiefy?
>Y
>+1000

Art looks nice though.

>>171305870

>>171305553
>say he's a forest main
>instantly drops forest when roach gets nerfed
>says forest is dead even though it has a ton of viable decks
>says Breath is OP
>thinks his opinion matters
I agree with you
It would be amazing
Maybe something like 1 PP gain a 1 evo points and lower the Evo clock by two

>>171305780
I main disco dragon and am genuinely upset that only one of the cards had discard support.

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>>171305849
Thank you

>>171306023
Nope, it was just revealed in stream

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>>171305790
According to /svg/ logic this card is absolutely broken because it allows you to shit out infinite rush followers and overflow is easy to obtain.

>>171305925
>Two cards, 10 pp and an Evolve point to get one 8/4 follower with storm and a 4/4 with what is basically Rush

How incredible!

>>171304918
Let's face the facts here

>dragoncraft wr is at 45%
>nearly every other class gets good cards, so Dragoncraft wr is bound to go down unless they can compensate
>1 lego is at best decent/playable, pretty much the rest of their cards is hot garbage. (though I like rahab)

So they don't even have enough cardpower to push them out of their 45% winrate right now, less be able to compensate the buffs other classes get. Tell me where my thought process is wrong. Unless by some magical miracle there's an enormous metashift that pushes aggro I only see darkness for dragon. Even with ToG cards there's nothing that prevents an autoloss against current Dshift/Nep, unless you go full aggro.

>>171306054
>he's a forest main
Never said this, stop making shit up discordfag.

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roflboros

What does discover a card do?

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>>171305958
>I doubt anyone here "mains" anything unironically.
Speak for yourself, you walking abortion.
I have 400 games and 300 of those are with Dragon.
I only played like 100 Blood back in B, but ever since A rank I been only playing Dragon.

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>>171306060
np

>>171305892
You're retarded.
What you're make here is literally a "when overflow is active, destroy one enemy follower per turn and summon a follower, activate that follower's fanfare".
Olivia wins games by herself just by giving you those 3 evo points on turn 9 and you want them from turn 6 essentially.

>b-but muh sword storm
Always the same fucking argument, especially funny coming from a class that used to do nothing but evolve Forte into face. Always conveniently forgetting they can shit out a Genesis dragon on turn 7.

>>171306228
>I have 400 games and 300 of those are with Dragon.
t. poorfag who can't buy more cards or too retarded to try new things.

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>>171306060
qt

Who else hype for frozen mammoth atomemes?

>>171305408
Warded up Servants beat DShift assuming there are no Fiery Embraces/Wind Blasts left
>>171305870
Roland makes it so you need 2 Destroyers to punch though Roland, 3 for Frontguard
Roland by herself cuts DShift damage by 17 on the first Shift, 9 on the 2nd one with a total of 16 with 2 shifts assuming 3 Destroyers (Usually 2) and Embraces used up and no petrify (Pipe dreams I know)

>>171306213
Look at three random cards and put one in your hand.

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>>171306287
t. Typical person who only plays Daria, D-Shift and Albertcraft

>>171306260
>Thinks Olivia is relevant outside of T2
I should have stopped reading there but whatever

>"when overflow is active, destroy one enemy follower per turn and summon a follower, activate that follower's fanfare".
Wow it's almost like Swordcraft, except it has an overflow requirement

>Always conveniently forgetting they can shit out a Genesis dragon on turn 7.
"If you have godlike curve and ramp perfectly you can play an inferior albert on turn 7"

Turns out Warlock got all the cards meant for Rowen.

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>>171305954

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>>171306145
Saved

>>171306356
That would actually be fun
2 big guys turn 3

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>>171306410
Have more Haven games than Sword and Rune. You look VERY dumb now, kiddo.

>>171306356
Elta Atomeme might be spicier.

>>171305870
It won't stop DShift but it will slow them down if they're forced to include petrify.

With the way Control Sword works right now, an extra turn might be all you need to beat them.

>>171305073

Because Titania sees so much play, right?

Guy my Dad works at Cygames and pocket gamer got Ouroboro's card effect wrong it's actually this
Class - Dragoncraft

Type - Follower

Rarity - Legend

Ability (Unevolved) - Last Words: Restore three defence to your leader, then put an Ouroboros into your hand

Ability (Evolved) - Fanfare: Deal three damage to an enemy.

>>171306471
Literally just stop talking and go cry in your corner. Thank god people like you will never have effect on the game.

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>yfw they really did save the best legendary for last and Forest will get Daria-tier bullshit

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Next expansion tiers

Cancer Tier
>Forest
>Rune

Pretty strong tier
>Sword

Honest tier
>Haven
>Shadow

Cucked tier
>Blood

Only the dead can know peace from this evil tier
>Dragon

>>171306528
for (you)

>>171306590
>turn 8 do nothing
>turn 9 do nothing
>turn 10 do nothing
Awesome

Need a private win please:
15657

>>171306590

If only

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>>171306590
>my dad works at cygames

>>171306642
C.Blood is going to be great though and C.Sword has no weakness.

>>171306548
I bet you only play meta decks with those though.
People who spew shit about "variety" only tend to play whatever is in the top 10. They don't dare to play anything that does not have solid win rates.

>>171306621
>Literally just stop talking and go cry in your corner
Yes yes, I know how it goes, "dragon deserves to always be shit because muh ramp" is the eternal argument.
Next expansion we won't even be able to play unga dragon since cygames is taking a shit on aggressive decks.

>>171306736
Got now, thanks!

>>171306642
Everything seems like it's going to be cancer tier but Shdow and Dragon.

>>171306471
Decks that benefit greatly from Olivia
>Control Sword
>Sun Satan
>Dirt
>Control Blood(Correct me if I'm wrong)

So Hearthstone just got a legendary that literally shuffles a fucking CARD PACK into your deck. Upon opening it gives you a card pack worth of cards into your hand; just as random as they would be from the fucking pack you opened in the menu.

Now just be glad this game isn't quite as RNG.

>>171306642
Move blood to Mid-Strong/Low-Cancer with T4 revelations, and Sword up to Cancer with that one card that makes allies immune to effects until it leaves the field.

>literally every craft except dragon got good card
You can't make this up

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>tfw


I won

>>171306818
No, that's not how it goes. How it goes is you making retarded, game mechanic breaking cards.
Why not just ask for a 1 pp Astaroth's Reckoning when overflow is active and be done with it?

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>>171306798
>I bet you only play meta decks with those though.
Kek, you're grasping at straws now. I've been playing this game for 1(ONE) month and I'm AA3 within 2 weeks. Of course I played optimized decks. Now I've built my collection to the point I can afford to play everything else I want until next expansion.

Just so you know though, there's nothing wrong with using the best tools available to rise in a competitive game. Thinking otherwise is by-the-book scrub mentality.

>>171306904
>""""""""""""Control""""""""""""" Sword
>Meme deck with crappy wincon
>Meme deck with no wincon
>Wrong

>>171306904
not him, but I don't run Olivia in CSword anymore.

The deck removed most of its draw and longevity in RoB in exchange for more board tools and face damage because you actually have a game-ender now.

Does anyone here have a Otomeme deck centered around here?

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>>171306832
np urias

>>171306995
Dragon doesn't need good cards they have ramp

>>171307062
Here's what an actual retarded game mechanic breaking card looks like:
>Storm.
>Enhance (9): Can't be damaged until the end of the turn this card is played. Can attack 2 times per turn.

I wish Cygames would give me more deck slots. I'm tired of having to delete decks to make more room for memes.

>>171306956
Genuinely glad I quit hs

>>171307226
How many are there? I've never hit the limit

>>171306956
lmao i'm watching that too, they released the anti-pirate card too

make OP tribe, let them ruin the meta for months, nerf them, then release the counter card when they're not OP anymore

classic shitstone balance

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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>171306956
Yeah right. I have never played HS but I can't imagine that game being so stupid.

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>>171306798
>>171307068
>>171306798
Furthermore, you're confusing the term "meta" for "tier 1". As expected from a shitposter. You have no business talking about the game if you don't even grasp the fundamentals of what meta-gaming even is.

>>171307068
>Just so you know though, there's nothing wrong with using the best tools available to rise in a competitive game.
>Of course I played optimized decks
So you admit that you only play according to the meta and don't actually make and experiment with decks on your own.
I rest my case that you have no right whatsoever to speak about variety.

>>171307343
I'm watching a stream and the guy happens to be watching this because he used to play the game.

Just go to /hsg/ to see a shitstorm I bet.

>>171307164
You are saying this as a joke but this is what most of /svg/ actually believes.

They 100% believe it's okay for genesis dragon to be a blatantly inferior albert/jungle protector because you can ramp into it.

>>171307141
I run her since I run Monika in my list, making it pretty evo hungry.
That and people feel safe once I'm out of evo points only to enable Albert again on turn 9

That being said she might go out since there's gonna be so much rush you can save evos easily, that and I need space for Support Cannon

>>171307384
Why would you experiment when there are japanese people who do it for you then post it online 24/7

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me cum in pants

>>171307343
This stream is fun, it's amazing having your decision to quit playing a game reinforced this much.

>>171307437
I use 2 monikas but I still don't think Olivia is the right call, unless you're still running avant bladers.

>>171307359
They are interchangeable, you pleblord.
Whatever is tier 1 is bound to be meta after all.

>>171307480
Japanese don't even have the creativity to make good anime these days, why should I trust that same creativity to make good decks?

>>171307483
>Goblin
Disgusting

>>171307224
>still crying about one card
Yeah, because other classes don't have to deal with it right? Only the poor, poor dragon loses to sword right?

What you basically want is an Albert you could play on turn 6 because in your mind it's somehow fair, while a turn 9 Albert is broken as fuck and unfair, only because YOU lose to it.

>>171307224
Dies to Decree

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>>171307384
>So you admit that you only play according to the meta and don't actually make and experiment with decks on your own.
I made a roach deck and climbed to A, yeah. Then I made a Haven and made it to AA, yeah. I then made a Sword and got to AA3, yeah. Then I made Rune and I'll use to masters. Apparently, by your own scrub definitions this is not variety?

So what is variety to you then? Mind you, at this point we are quite literally throwing aside all normal conventions and even the competitive spirit out the window just to understand what your mental illness or self imposed rules are. You are no different than teenagers who think they shouldn't play a certain character in a fighting game because "it's cheap".

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>>171304929
>tfw only one Forte

>>171307437
>>171307141
>>171307531
Olivia and Bahamut are more of a preference choice in CSword. They're handy to have against other control decks, but they're not required.

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With the new sword cards coming out, I want to go midrange/control for now to get used to the playstyle so I'll be ready for Tempest of the Gods. What current cards do you think will see a lot of play next expansion that would be worth crafting now? Here are my silver/gold/legendaries for swordcraft and neutral.

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Blizzard innovating again! Amazing.

>>171305351
Oh my god, it really is a worse inferno dragon. Fucking fuck

>>171304630
>Dumped roach faster than his std results talking shit about dragon
It's fucking nothing in the face of the powercreep everyone else is getting. Having 10pp doesn't change the opponent playing 7-8pp cards that have well beyond that in value. Good fucking luck if you couldn't mulligan and draw into your ramp.

>>171307531
Nah Avants left long ago, I should probably cut Maids as well since they don't accomplish much and I'd rather not play them turn 2 against Rune

Since we're talking sword lists, sounds like your goal is to end on turn 9, guessing you run Fangblades over Odins?

>>171307485
>>171307409
Alright, I'm watching the stream now.

>>171306956
Blizzard just can't stop fucking up everything they touch nowadays. At least Overwatch prints money I guess.

>>171307604
>Yeah, because other classes don't have to deal with it right? Only the poor, poor dragon loses to sword right?
I'm only using an example (of many) of how other classes get to have absolutely bonkers cards but dragon is never allowed to have anything good because "muh ramp"

But keep attacking things I never said

>>171307770
lol no, I thought and still think fangblade is trash that's only playable against other slow decks where it's mediocre at best. 3 Tsubaki and 2 bahamut is enough removal, I don't need 7 or 8.

>>171307748
wait what
>2pp cheaper cleric lancer
wew

>>171306956
What happens if you get cards not for your class?

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In what fucking world is Jeanne and A and Aegis a B?

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Guys, you do realize why dragon got the shaft so hard, right? Remember what deck was pushed HARD, being made almost entirely from RoB cards? The deck they advertised with the slogan "ENJOY SHADOWVERSE"? The deck that dominated the meta both in win and play rate before OTK roach? The deck they released $500 sleeves for? Yes, that deck. What deck countered it the hardest, specifically in a tournament? Saha Luci ramp's performance against pre nerf Dorothy is exactly why they're butchering it right now. It was a shitty unpushed class/deck that dared perform well against their money maker, and you think they'd give it future support?

>>171307914
How do you deal with Nep though?
I run 2 Tsubaki, 1 Bahamut, 2 Odin, 2 CycloneBlade

>>171307948
You play them and wreck you opponent since they can't play around them.

Would it break the game if they move unkoboros' last word not needing evo?

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>>171307575
>meta and tier 1 are interchangeable
Wew lad, this must be your first competitive card game or something. I am not surprised seeing the filth I've encountered in this thread. You can make perfectly viably unviable predator decks which are exclusively relevant because they prey on the weakness of tier 1 decks. They'll rarely be tier 1 but they can win enough simply by exploiting a niche. Case in point, roach and pr nerf allowed for more control to be played so now Dshift has rise.

I grow tired of this tomfoolery, I must go out with my girlfriend Elizabeth at a fine Italian restaurant but I will make sure to educate you in the ways of the world at a later time.

>>171305105
tyrant hits for 17 through ward.

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>>171307748
Just another example of power- creep

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>>171307991
Waifufags.

>>171307854

>give Dragon retardedly broken card
>it's now a 2-4 turns less retardedly broken card
>this is fair
>but if others have it's not

It's the same as locking good effects behind necromancy, vengeance and earth rite.

>>171307991
It seems odd, but the only card I ever remember them being clearly wrong on was shadow reaper. They're normally bang on, or pretty close.

>>171307991
>9pp do nothing
>6pp actually affects every others follower on the board
gee I don't know anon

>>171307991
aegis comes out very late and does nothing the turn he's played

jannu can potentially clear the enemy board + buff your attackers to go face and finish the game

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>>171307632
You literally said that I'm too retarded to try new things and that I don't know variety just because I main dragon, when for all you know I could have 9 different dragon decks, each with their own separate win conditions and playstyles. This shows that you have an extremely narrow minded viewpoint that thinks that every class has 1 viable 'meta' deck and nothing else is worth playing.

>You are no different than teenagers who think they shouldn't play a certain character in a fighting game because "it's cheap".
Its not about cheapness. I literally just cannot view you as a fellow player, to me you and every one who plays according to meta are just brainless zombies jumping on the same bandwagon who don't bother to be creative or invent anything on their own. You might as well be an NPC as I don't see an ounce of human creativity from you, I absolutely loathe your kind in any kind of game and you should kill yourself for being such an unimaginative mongolid.

>>171307991
The world where D-shift is still a thing and Seraph laughs at a 9 drop when they have three countdown reducers waiting to release the angel.

>>171308086
>It's the same as locking good effects behind necromancy, vengeance and earth rite.
No, those effects add value beyond what the base card already has. Dragon cards are made intentionally shitty and inferior because "muh ramp"

There's a reason why dragon prefers to use big neutral followers instead of its own when playing ramp.

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>>171305707
Our neutralcraft deck will be fine but that's it. And that's the problem. Our only competitive deck shouldn't be pulling the slot machine arm to get our ramp cards and spears in a deck that's 29-34 neutral cards. It's repulsive.

>>171305780

>>171308192
6pp buff enemy followers with def >2 is really shit.

>>171308150
>>171308192
>>171308302

I get the argument against Aegis (him being too slow.
I don't get who the fuck would ever use Dork Jeanne.

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>>171307748
Funny but this reveal stream has already shown more new mechanics than exist in ToG

>>171307748
It's shit

>>171308051
I don't think so because 1. the enemy can trade anything into it and it'll die, 2. you need to play him again, unlike morde and 3. it's 8pp leaving you with 2pp to play anything else the turn you do it

>>171307991
>people still think nips are the authority on this game

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What do you guys think of the new Dragon legendary Ouroboros?

>>171308410
Hearthstone does interesting work with exploring it as a digital game with weird effects, it's just a shame most of them are required to be RNG bullshit. Their mechanics are cool, but undermined by their fucking awful game design.

>>171308549
Hip hip horray!

>>171305790
Make it draw a card at the end of your turn while in overflow. I think it's finally made it though. Wrath drake helps it clear so the survivors can face. Rahab lets you conserve your hand instead of playing into board clear. 1-2 nests will give you additional cards. Pucewyrm will provide a bigger body so you don't have to mulch your board as much. Aina will have decent damage and leave a body that will usually survive shit.

>>171308428
So who's the genius thought it need evolve with last word?

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>SV-babs will never have a fun card like this

>>171308549
Almost unplayable unless they move the "add to hand" to unevolved as well, and even then it will need rush or something else too.

>>171308401

Dark Jeanne can serve as a board clear, certainly not optimal but it's an opportunity to conserve an evo point for later turns.

>>171308556
It makes the games more dynamic and interesting. When was the last time you were surprised by card interaction in Shadowverse? It makes it a very frustrating game to play, but it's also the main reason why Hearthstone is 10x more fun to watch.

>>171308401
>6pp buff enemy followers with def >2 is really shit.
you don't have to play her if all you're doing is buffing enemy followers

if, let's say, your storm birds just popped and you want to hit face with them, you can play her. she can also buff the rush bird to clear any remaining follower. I dunno man, we'll see when people start using her.

>>171307991
She is a good removal against aggro and you don't need to waste your evolve point or themis.

Also decent body.

>>171308030
literally, just gotta play like midrange and try to kill them, khawy fucks you over pretty bad though.

It's not a good matchup but I don't think using odin really solves it.

>>171308361
Fine.
But the solution is not making retardedly OP cards just because. That's going to the other extreme.

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>>171305958
A lot of people are mains and you pickup decent skill with other decks just by paying attention to your opponent.

>>171308664
And about 100x less fun to play. I quit HS for a reason.

>>171308401
I could see it being a potential closer for a Storm Deck, assuming you have board presence and followers who are able to survive losing 2 life. Barring that, it could help to remove all followers with 2 life or less, without too much of a fuss.

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>>171308643
The best

>>171308401
>I don't get who the fuck would ever use Dark Jeanne
who knows, wait for some nip to do the optimal deck, maybe just put 1 or 2 in a storm or maybe a some midrange deck(?)

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Should be a fun run.

>>171308664
>It makes the games more dynamic and interesting.
to watch yeah, but if people in this thread rage at fucking may's rng, imagine what they'd do if they got hit by the bullshit in hs you see sometimes posted here

>>171308787
I forgot Storm Haven existed, to be completely fair.

>>171308771
I agree, but I still watch Hearthstone streams but almost never watch SV.

I really wish they would put a fucking limit on spellboost cards.
>Cards can't cost less than their initial cost / 2 (rounded down)
>cards can't deal more damage than double their initial damage
Let that disgusting cow bitch and her shit cards die.

>>171308794
No way this shit is real.

>>171308938
Rage of Bahamut put the Freedom Birds to ice, so I'm not surprised if some forgot due to the Daria spam.

>>171308942
I don't really like watching people who are miserable

>>171306142
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/171246898/#171252097
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/171246898/#171252398
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/thread/171246898/#171252752

>>171309018
It is.

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should I or nah? If yes, Shadow or Forest pre?

>>171309018
Oh it's real.

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>>171308913
>but if people in this thread rage at fucking may's rng, imagine what they'd do if they got hit by the bullshit in hs you see sometimes posted here
Just look at this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgyTstLir-Y#t=04m13s

>>171309018
It is real and the effect stacks.

>>171308942
I watch kripp streaming SV even though I've never played HS in my life because he seems to be having tons of fun all the time.

>>171309018
HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Rip Rowen. Will the 2nd legendary save him?

>>171308794
What the fuck does that even do?

And why the fucking RNG?

>>171306582
It would if it wasn't such a board clog. I tried with pixie's + titania

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>>171309182
>Will the 2nd legendary save him?

>>171309150
w-what?

>>171309189
For anything where you would choose a target, choose it randomly. This is the HS design philosophy

>>171309118
Dragon

>>171307725
Get the cores. You're just gonna run 2 rolands when xpak hits.

>>171309118
>Shadow or Forest
I'd say Forest because Shadow has some trap cards like LotF, but both are good value so I guess you can just choose whatever you're more interested in.

>>171309252
If you have two down, choose the target at random, but then do it again. No, it doesn't make sense.

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>>171309150
>the effect stacks

>>171309189
It affects everything that requires the player to pick a target (e.g. single target spells, followers attacking, etc), makes it so the target is randomly chosen instead.

>>171307071
>meme post

>>171309182
The fuck you saying? They already revealed all Dragon legendaries.

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>>171309252

>>171309140
I remembered why I quit hearthstone.

why do people praise this game again?
look at the new expansion cards
can you with good faith call them well designed?

>>171307991
Jeanne on a count haven board is +6-8 face which can be enough to lethal

>>171308051
No. 3 dmg is too low and its cost is too high outside of roost which is still unplayable.

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>>171308821
If you run veteran tamer, jeanne will be good in your deck. Dark jeanne is a good card, it's just not broken, i will definitely drop vallhalla general for her.

>>171309417
What was the other one besides the resident evil 5 virus?

>>171309479
Definitely. Minthe is amazing and I'm really excited to build a deck around her.

>>171309309
>>171309408

That is bullshit. Utter bullshit.

It's fun for the viewers, yes. But for the players? You'd subject them to pure luck more than what is already necessary?

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>>171309440
Surely this one is fake.

>>171309309
>>171309408
How do people play that shitfest of a game?

>>171309353
Cores?

>>171309570
Inertia mostly. It wasn't like this in beta, there were real decks.

>>171309440
>strategy card game
yeah about the strategy part...

>>171308664
>When was the last time you were surprised by card interaction in Shadowverse?
Why the fuck would I want to be surprised by the rules of the game? I want cards to do what they say not have a 1 in 50 chance to shit in my mouth every third day of a leap year if some fag on /v/ happened to get dubs exactly at midnight.

>>171307725
You might want a Tsubaki and Odin if you're going for control.

>>171308794
>>171309440

Now I actually know why Lifecoach left HS.

>>171309479
Yes the new cards seemed balanced and most importantly fun. Is ben brode in here trying to recruit /hsg/ fags?

>>171308794
>9 mana do nothing

>>171309549
>>171309891
NO NO NO
THEY ARE BAD
THE DRAGON CARDS ARE BAD

>>171309891
>Yes the new cards seemed balanced and most importantly fun.

LOL

>>171309549
As a Shadowfag I am pretty happy, only the lack of Nep support aside from that 2 drop is a bit sad

>>171309906
It sometimes gets run in control decks because it fucks up other control decks trying to accomplish anything

>>171309906
too bad you can't even DoD it because he'll randomly choose a target for you (and it'll be one of your own followers because why not)

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>>171309565
oh boy, you'll like this card

>>171309570
Sunk cost fallacy. Game was better before and I already spend 300$+ dollars on this game. People still hope that the next expansion(s) will save the game somehow.

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>>171309565
Yeah, Blizzard would never print such luck based cards! R-right?

>>171309995
Keep in mind that pretty much any efficient spell or amulet is also Nep support. I think Zombie Party is going to be a really good addition.

>It's another "Forestshitter uses path to memetory because he's too shit to actually go face" episode

Why are people like this even allowed to exist.

>>171309976
Every class is getting broken shit (besides Dragon) so it balances out in the end (if you don't main Dragon)

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Erika is level 100!

>People playing HS wanted Team 5 to reduce RNG
>Team 5: Guess what? More RNG!

Don't worry Dragonbabs, looks like you guys can rest for a while against the bullying.

>>171308361
>No, those effects add value beyond what the base card already has.
90% of cards that have a conditional effect (necro, vengeance, earth rite, if x or more are played) are incredibly shit without the enhancement.

>have to play like a greedy shit because decks auto win as soon as they survive past t8
Will ToG be less autistic? I don't want to lose as soon as I don't hit the curve perfectly.

So, can someone actually translate Ouroboros effect for me?

能力:進化前 ファンファーレ 相手リーダーまたはフォロワー1体に3ダメージを与える
進化後 【ラストワード】 自分のリーダーの体力を3回復する。《ウロボロス》を1枚手札に加える

I want to know if it's actually as bad as I think.

>>171310036
I've seen this card, and I've also heard that it would keep casting spells even if it died, until it got nerfed.

I'm just somehow more appalled by the blatant percentage on the other card's description.

>>171309971
Israfil, Zeus and Grimnir are all solid dragon cards.

>tfw playing godcraft ramp in tempest of the gods

>>171310328
Even unkoboros is nothing in comparison to "Replace your entire deck with 'Discover a card'"

>>171309602
The key control sword cards wont change much

>>171308664
>Jeez I sure love being forced to use a card that says 99% chance I get fucked in the ass, 1% I win
>but lol when if finally goes off for me it will be so "hype!"

Please kill yourself.

>>171310373
Why the fuck would you need a translation when it was actually released in english first?

http://www.pocketgamer.co.uk/r/iPad/Shadowverse/news.asp?c=73345

Why ouros isn't the Morde of Dragon?

>>171310391
From what I understand it could also go on for so long that it skipped your opponents next turn.

>>171309971
I've only seen the new gold card for dragon that gives you a turn 4 ward and gets buffed for each extra mana not played that turn, he seems dangerously good as dragon has safer ways to get to its ramped up stage. The legebdary looks bad, but they have on left to reveal right? Outside of that i have no idea where dragon is headed, but I'm not about to join the hivemind of the "DRAGON MEME" either.

>>171310481
Oh, I had no idea it was actually released in English.

Well fuck. Thanks I guess.

>>171309118
Forest, both legos are must have and shadow has Lord of the flies.

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>>171310484
It's a carrot if you spend an evo.

>>171310356
ToG went full throttle the other way

>>171310484
>8/4 fanfare 3 damage that bounce to your hand when die
that would be actually good but no, let's ruin it with evolve

>>171310484
>Dragon
>Getting good cards
lol, Morde would be too OP in dragon since you'd get it out on turn 4 if you spent 3 turns doing nothing :^)

So basically we'll have three more months of nothing but sword in ranked, right?

I don't think I'll be playing this game long enough to wait for the next expansion.

>>171310484
Tsubaki can kill him twice, TWICE!

>>171310416

Which cards would I remove for Roland? Remove 1 front guard and 1 random and add 2 Roland?

>>171304994
>Forest
>Not having overstated and pushed cards

>>171310707
With plenty of haven and some forest, rune, blood, shadow.

>>171310057
Post the one that adds legos to your deck.

>>171306097
Well I still got hope.
The big reason why dragon winrate is so bad is because there are so much unga going on right now.
And dragon got a horrible early game. Rahab and princess will help with that since you can dump him after just 1 oracle instead of waiting for goblinmount 1 turn later when it might be to late, or imprisioned that dies to most basic spells.
that alone will lower some of the early game pressure that kills dragon.
A safer start makes it easier for dragon to ramp and actually use its big guns aggresive instead of defencive since he will have taken less dmg at start.

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>>171304994

>Forest
>Balanced

>>171310717
Jeno ca kill him and he' two knights in the proces

>dragon gets shit because muh ramp
>dragon proceed to use fat neutrals since they are better
Why is cygames retarded?

>>171310824
People said the exact same thing when RoB started.

Ended up a runefest then swordfest later.

>>171310707
?

Ranked will be nothing but bloodfags summoning turn 6 25/25 split between 5 bodies

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>>171310887
Be more precise.

>>171306956
post the card please

>>171310968
with a forestfest in between which was the worst of the three.

>>171308794
>turn 9 do nothing with bad stats
Did this ever see play?

>>171310968
Pre-nerf gobu was bad, but post-nerf is pretty diverse. You can't escape popular T1 decks, but most crafts have 10% playrate at least.

>>171311104
I didn't even know that existed. I meant the one that adds 5(I think) at the start of the game.

>>171308739
>Also decent body.
yeah she's pretty sexy

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>>171310994

Nothing personnel kid

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>>171308643
>>171308794
play a real card game if you want fun cards

Is Beast Dominator going to be good in ToG? If you play her on turn 5 with Blood Moon active, that's a pretty nice little 6/6 or 8/8 early in the game, and you don't have to worry about her attack decreasing.

96582 Concede please

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Post yfw you open animated Ouroboros in your rupie packs instead of a good legendary

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>>171311203
Oh the prince. He's kinda shit though.

>>171311394
Free vials.

>>171311394

>three free golds

nice

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>>171311394

>>171311104
How the fuck are all these cards real

Is HS a thing people actually play with all this lol randum xDD shit?

>>171310484
If Dragon got a good card printed someone would get fired at Cygames.

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>>171311203
That one is absolute shit and is never used.. His RNG is nothing compared to the average hearthstone card.

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>>171311394

>>171310951
Jeno doesn't get two night in the process on turn 4, and if you're 2nd with dragon you're nit dropping a ward LMAO your dropping FUCKING DRAGON OF VALUE! and if your first Rahab cucks every single aggro deck in the game.

>>171310968
Elana got kurt wincon, so it'll be better. Daria is still a thing. Blood and Shadow will be decent if they draw their clutch cards. Forest was upgraded too.

Sword will be king, but most of the game will be other decks.

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I don't know why you are crying about dragon, Grimnir and Israfil look really powerful.

>>171311348
Thx Burger-Bro !

>play "control" shadow
>Haven
>Haven
>Haven
>dshift
>dshift
>switch to aggro
>Elana
>Elana

Will this fucking game stop doing this already

>>171311508
To play the devil's advocate it looks fun in a kinda sacky way. Like you won't get fucked by the same bullshit the same way every time.

>>171311508
HS motto is Stories to tell your friends

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>>171311621
np, sword-maid.

If i only wanna fuck over midrange sword, what do i play?

>>171311508
Yes.

If you think being buttfucked by being first or being matched against dshift is bad, imagine having cards that can have game-winning RNG on top of all that. Elf Child May doesn't have anything on your average HS card, absolutely nothing.

>>171311508
Yes, just search youtube for epic rng hearthstone moments, you'll find like a thousand videos.

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>>171311668

Bets on how many suicides are reported the day TotG launches in Japan

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I....can't.....go....on....anymore......

>>171311752
"control"sword