/svg/ Shadowverse General

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>>171283327
Ok, guys. Try guess. Is OP a dragoncuck?

>>171283327
revealed*

>>171283327
>ITT people who don't play dragon tell us why the card isn't shit
Also reminder Dragon Frevor is a staple in a 45% winrate deck.

>>171283327
>dragon plays this lego on turn 5 and get +1pp
>blood plays 5 5/5 on next turn and dragon has no way to kill them

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Miko will be extremely strong in practice

>>171283327

Here are the translations for the new reveals.

>Qubeley
Bronze Forest Follower
3 cost 1/4

At the end of your turn, give your other followers +0/+1.

>Wolfman Shocktrooper
Bronze Blood Follower
4 cost 2/5

Clash: If the follower it clashes with has Ward, this follower has Bane until the end of the turn.

>Holy Archer Kurt
Silver Haven Follower
2 cost 2/2

Whenever your leader is healed, deal 2 damage to the enemy leader.

>Magical Girl Melvi
Gold Rune Follower
5 cost 4/4

Fanfare: You and your opponent both draw until they have 7 cards.

>Priestess of the Water Dragon God
Legend Dragon Follower
5 cost 4/5

Fanfare: If this is your 5th turn or later, increase your maximum PP by 1.

If Overflow is active for you, heal your leader for 3 at the end of your turn.

>>171283327
If Unica whores for bread then does Miko whore for dragon eggs?

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>dragon exists

>>171283430
I saw a nip on twitch looking at a 7 mana lego spell. Was it just oc?

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>made a thread 20(TWENTY) memes early just so you can put in your shitty opinion
Dragoncucks are THIS buttdevastated

>Luci that can't be played outside of overflow and earlier than turn 5
I wonder why other legendaries don't have limiters like that. Like Daria only banishes and draws when played turn 6+, or Albert has storm only if there are officers on board.

>>171283430
>>Holy Archer Kurt
>Silver Haven Follower
>2 cost 2/2
>Whenever your leader is healed, deal 2 damage to the enemy leader.
I really wish this was an amulet so it could be a combo deck

>esl can't into cards
when do the burgers wake up?

>>171283497
cygays are far too scared of breaking the overflow effect

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>>171283491
>mfw forestgays heal for 19 in one turn with 1 card while dragoncucks heal for 3

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So, you guys ready for that 1 mana dshift mentor we all wanted?
Remember gobu? This is like that but much much stronger.

>>171283327
>Rowen plays this and gets a 4/5 body AND 1 EMPTY PLAY POINT ORB (!!!)
>Urias plays maelstrom serpent and gets 5 5/5s on the board
"dragon miko is a good card" - /svg/

>>171283430
>holy waters, pegasus amulets and bunny healers
I sure like the potential 10+ damage burn from elana of all decks.
While dragon gets a worse luci with more limits than bahamut.

the problem is that /svg/ were hyped about the new dragon legendaries expecting broken albert tier bullshit or hilarious memes

it wasnt even a bad card but compared to broken shit other classes got its mediocre at best. could have been a gold or silver.

eh here's hoping that ouroboros would deliver

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Tbqh Cygames should totally experiment with breaking the PP limit for Dragon, like a card that lets you have 12pp for the next turn and for that turn only.

>>171283557
They weren't afraid of breaking spellboost and countdown amulet mechanics in half

People also seem to forget Miko heal at the end of turn. If you're at 6PP on T5 and you drop her, her heal will proc. She is a ramp on fanfare, put 4/5 body and heal you for 3. Your opponent need to answer her if they don't have lethal since she will heal you every turn like Lucy.

I really don't understand how some people calling this card bad.

@171283610
>comparing a 8pp card and a 5pp card
weak bait, you don't deserve a You

>>171283672
>it wasnt even a bad card

Hi, Rowen.

>>171283327
Even if this card was good (and I'm not saying it is) it still should be a gold or a silver. Imperial dragoon's effect feels more legendary and impactful than this shit.

>>171283410
Are dragon players actually this retarded?

>>171283694
They're shitposting or are REALLY bad at this game because this card is solid as fuck and will see play in all dragon decks that care about ramping.

>>171283327
Dshift, Nep and probably ToG Cblood and Csword will laugh at Miku. You can't use her to ramp faster after using Aiela/Doracle and they don't give a crap about your heals.

Yea, I'm outta here until every other post isn't some dragonfuck complaining.

>>171283694
If you got ramp, drew it and are not ded fom aggro yet on turn 5, it could be useful as it comes one turn earlier than luci and leaves you with 2 for salamander's

Those are big ifs though

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>/svg/ is calling a lucifer that you can play on turn 5/6 and also ramps you is bad
why do I even bother coming here, you guys have shit opinions and almost always end up wrong anyways
you guys should just stick to eating up the netdecks from japs who actually know stuff about the game

>>171283672
I've been laughing at dragonbabs for days but yeah.

I actually wanted hilarious memes. Not something that looks good, but just ok.

This definitely seals it though, Ouroboros will either be broken as fuck. Or be a goddamn hilarious meme.

People also seem to forget that they still haven't shown the last Forest legendary.

>>171283745
>will see play in all dragon decks that care about ramping.
Yes, it will see play in 45% win rate decks

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OUROBOROS WILL SAVE DRAGON
SCREENCAP THIS POST

>>171283706
its not, meme all you want but its decent

but this shouldnt have took a legendary spot, but i guess other classes got trash like jeanne or belphegor, but hey only forest and sword could consistently get good legendaries right?

>>171283702
Did you miss the part where blood got a better dragon emissary?
No wonder this retarded general is arguing this card is good, they don't even keep up with the cards other classes are getting.

>>171283773
Then fuck off if you don't like this place

>Dragoncucks thinks their shitleggo is actually good

>>171283694
It's retards spouting the "lmao dragon" meme. I would've joined in if the card was actually meme tier instead of being a decent addition to ramp like it actually is.

Anyone saying it's a bad card is trying way too hard to fit in.

>>171283769
But if you have 7 mana on turn 5, why wouldn't you saha luci? Saha has almost the same stats and you get 1 more hp.

>>171283769
>it could be useful

Are you literally D rank?

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>>171283430
elana is looking sweet right now. might just go with it next meta

As of right now. what do you think you'll play next meta, /svg/?

>>171283672
>not bad enough for memes
>not good enough to make dragon less shit

everyone got cucked by this

>>171283893
Give me a break man, the last time I played dragon was early DE

>All this "hurr retards think it's a bad card"
It's not a bad card.

It's a decent card.

Dragon kind of needed something that's not just "decent" though. Yes, if we got it and no one else got anything it'd improve our winrates. Problem is, everyone else also gets new shit that's just flat out fucking better and we end up being worse in comparison.

>>171283672
the "problem" is that it's a legendary. it's way overexpensive.

it would've been a perfect gold though

>>171283798
>Decent
That new Haven card is more of legendary in comparison.

>>171283898
Full of sword, forest, haven and dim shift, with, maybe, some shadow and blood. Same thing as DE, actually, only worse because new cards are even stronger

>>171283804
>5pp dragon emmisary
>suddenly good

Try offering the same card to Dragoncucks and they'll start bitching about it being turn 5 2/1 do nothing.
Just fucking admit you just want to complain and keep your retarded memes alive at this point. Being known as a shit class also let's you deflect any criticism.

>>171283975
Wooooah dude what are you saying
A follower that gives you 1pp OR a 3 heal how could you not think this is an amazeballs op card
Ramp dragon is saved

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>Wake up
>Dragon is tier 1 now

>>171283996
Look at Minthe and Gawain. Both of them can be gold as well but no one is complaining.

>>171283975
>everyone else
>Forest and Shadow get jack shit

So what cards do you remove for the Dragon leggo? Don't say Luci because ramp depends on Saha+Luci as things stand right now.

I should have known dragoncucks were hsfags that wanted the blizzard treatment of OP cards for them, luckly cygames know how to design games

>>171283898
>new set come out
>going to an archetype that was used the set before the current one

Where is the creative spark? Gonna try bloodmoon first to be honest. Maybe control forest, see if the commander thing for sword is fun.

>>171284046
unico or fervor

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Who's winning here?

>>171284029
>Being known as a shit class also let's you deflect any criticism.
>Implying dragon is merely "known as" a shit class and is not in fact a shit class
Okay
Keep arguing miko of ramp OR heal (not both) is a tier SSSSS++++++++++++++ card

>>171283898
Both control and tempo forest are looking good. Def going to try to make dirt work. Maybe control blood.

>>171283975
>It's a decent card.

That's the problem though. It's JUST a decent card.

>>171284046
Aiela.

>>171284045
> twin 4/5 ward storm
>nothing
You are already spoiled.

And shadow got some things at least.

>dragoncraft sitting at a whooping 45% winrate
>every other class gets insane shit
>everything revealed for dragon right now is absolutely trash except Miku and Rahab
>they're decent cards
>45% winrate class should be happy about DECENT cards and aren't allowed to complain

Right now I pray to our god and saviour Ouroboros. He's the only one who can save us from 3 months of sub50% winrate.

>>171284032
I want Furudo Erika to fuck me

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This dragon card is really only for ramp dragon, as a face dragon I got nothing out of this and see no reason to use it whatsoever.

expected something more from the designated meme class desu

>>171284089
>if it's not an SSSSS++++++++++++++ tier card it's shit
>anything I like or lose to is an SSSSS++++++++++++++ card

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>>171284065
oh i will too. but i was talking about which one i'll likely end up sticking to in the end.

>>171284027
that wasn't the question anon

>>171284046
I personally can see Aielas dropped in favour of less do-nothing early game cards like Rahab but then again I'm a shitter so I'll just netdeck until I get better.

Aiela is such a shitty fucking card a lot of the time. Turn 2 dragon oracle into clunky 4 pp aiela that does nothing until the next turn.

And I doubt you'll run 3 fervors AND 3 of this grill.

>>171284045
>>Forest and Shadow get jack shit
If you wanted to bait you should have just stuck with shadow because it's not believable that you're really stupid enough to think forest got nothing.

>>171284160
Ramp dragon is the only way to play dragon.

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>>171284085
That reaper is gonna be YUGE.
>Buccaneer
For what purpose?

Would anyone like to watch my stream if I put it on for about an hour, Im just climbing with a boring deck

>>171284065
The cannon amulet should be fun. Commandercraft.

>>171284048
Shit, you're right. They're both underpowered classes with a class mechanic that can become really retarded if the devs make a single mistake. HS devs made those mistakes, but Cygames won't.

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>dragoncucking yourself
>not even once

>>171284160
Face will be shit after ToG and ramp too with the way things are going.

I like how Unica is 2pp heal 2, Miko is 5pp heal 3, and Lucifer is 8pp heal 4. Really appeases my autism.

>>171284194
>can see Aielas dropped
But i loved banishing her!

>>171284160
Why are you playing face dragon? I'm not really trying to be condescending. I'm legitimately curious.

The craft is clearly aimed at ramping up and using big cards to win games. You're ignoring the craft's theme and just playing unga with it for no real reason, using cards like fucking Goblin that are plain and boring.

Why not just play a craft that does it better like Blood or Sword?

Need a concede, pretty please
ID: 39755

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>>171284214
I'm not him but honestly I've considered running buccaneer in aggro as I'm already running fucking Khaiza and the zombie is better and stickier tempo... It doesn't really matter much as aggro is dead in a couple weeks anyway

>>171284190
Oh, right. Well, I'll not be playing, because the meta is going to be a clown circus.
Unless i want a flashy mobile game with quick games you need to pay no attention to.

>>171284151
Unless it's daria tier broken the 45% will stay.

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>>171284273
>no pattern

wat

>>171284301
>Why are you playing face dragon?
Maybe he wants to play dragon instead of neutralcraft

>>171284342
>+3pp +1heal
>+3pp +1heal
retard?

>>171284342
Every 3 pp is +1 heal.

>>171284368
Yeah with cards like goblins lmao

>>171284342
There's a name for that pattern but I forget what it is

>>171283430
Lucifer is better

>>171284342
Miko is directly in the middle of them both pp wise and in healing.

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>Sword
Ward and Amulet that can cuck dshift
>Elf
Can heal leader more than 10 at once
>Haven
Summon a creature that can't be killed by fucking everything
>Rune
6pp 10+/10+
>Shadow
Flood the board with RUSH
>Blood
combo with amulet you can flood the board with 5/5
>Dragon
LOL JUST RAMP

That card is fucking suck you faggots

IT'S FUCKING AWFUL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>171284321
But it's daria tier broken how could you say it's not
It's a followers with stats on curve that will either give you 1pp OR a 3 heal
Like jesus christ man, just look at that

>>171284389
...linear?

>>171284313
That's nice and all but you won't always get his effect on curve and he's a dead card beyond that, not to mention he eats up the shadow for Howl and provide very little advantage.

>>171284301
Face Dragon is legit. A top 50 master player streamed it yesterday, it seemed decent.

>>171283327
The sexiest card of TotG. You can't deny this.

>>171284459
Well he gives 2 shadows back I suppose, but yeah not being able to play him on curve means Khaiza is still the king of my 3 pp slot. Honestly I never have trouble getting enough shadows for howl usually.

>>171284301
Face Dragon currently has a higher winrate than Ramp and only uses 3 leggos.

>>171284382
>Yeah with cards like goblins lmao
Using a handful of neutrals still beats aiela and imprisoned being your only dragon followers

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>>171284312
pls help

>>171284446
we're talking about memeboros anon

>t1 egg
>t2 unica
>t3 grimnir
>t4 dragon warrior to gain tempo/ rehab if you first
>t5 miko for ramp evolve it into 6/7 and trade into something
>t6, egg pops, saha into israfil

Dragon is actually looking good against aggro now.

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>>171284301
Same reason why people play Earth Rune and PTP rune despite the fact that rune is geared at spellboositng mechanics.
Also you are ignoring the fact that many dragon cards have synergies for face hitting gamestyle such as Mushusshu and Forte. Ramping is certainly not the only way to play dragon, and I personally don't enjoy the "do nothing this turn" gameplay that ramp dragon does, I prefer to actually place something on the board every turn and maintain board advantage.

>It's just ramp tho

There's a reason why Dragon runs shitty cards like Aiela and Fervor. Ramp is what makes you win games, usually ramping makes you lose a turn but this miko bitch gives you a ramp and acts as Unica ward.

>next expansion everyone stops playing aggro
>dragoncucks get to ramp in peace
>shit on everyone with turn 7 Bahamuts, especially Elanas
>gain more then 50% because the meta allows them

Now the million dollar question, will they still bitch, moan and cry?

>>171283327
>Max pp and heal
It's not what I wanted but it helps our issues with late game pp gain and dying to chip dmg regardless
It helps that we got rahab, scyther, and pucwyrm to play with it in addition to the usual leviathan/siegfried

Did they clarify if the max pp orb is filled or not?


>>171283430
Good on Qubeley, forest needed something to help its tempo board and that's not too bad

Shocktrooper's going to be popping a lot of wards in 4-6

Really not a fan of kurt though. If he didn't win as elana, that's still drop him and
2pp rabbit healer
2pp love's gospel
2pp monastic
3pp healing angel
3pp healing prayer

I'm not looking forward to 8 burn and facing a lethal board yet again

>>171284312
>>171284526
Thank you, Skelly

>>171284589
How dragon going to deal with Aegis though?

>>171284531
>turn 7
>get otk'ed by sword/forest/rune/haven/shadow

>>171284470
Not him
I was thinking earlier today, are winstreaks/high winrates in masters really indicative of a deck being good? Obviously there's some validity but seeing as most people seem to indicate people just screw around in masters unless they're specifically aiming to grind masters rank. If it largely matches you by masters rank - matched with players near your rank and so on - then I suppose it does make sense I suppose

>>171284589
The question is will retards like you keep saying "surely dragon will be tier 1 this expansion" next expansion as well?
The answer is yes, since this has happened every expansion and has never been true.

is it just me or will zeus make all the difference in dragon?
ramping will be just that much more worth it thanks to zeus & saha

>if you think this card is good you're a retarded Dragonshitter
>if you think it's bad you're also a retarded Dragonshitter
As expected of /svg/.

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>>171284214
Just trying him out, even put some spartoi sergeants to feed him. There are so many 3 drops in shadow pool, i want to try most of them. My usual skeleton knight always dies to some fairy or quick blader.

Btw that guy lost, he was missing 1 hp for lethal and decided to trade his albert.

>>171284313
>It doesn't really matter much as aggro is dead in a couple weeks anyway
Well, i hope you're wrong, shadow got nice nuke for 2, zombie party or something. Maybe i'll try aggro blood in 2 weeks.

>>171284459
I put 2 becaneers in my deck, i also run bone chimeras to get more shadows. The usual aggro shadow deck is kinda weak in my opinion so i am trying to build something stronger.

>>171284628
Fortes and Genesis into face before turn 9. Also wards.

>>171284657
>posting

Retarded dragonshitter.

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Honestly, a 1/4 that can't be attacked and deals 2 damage to opponent's leader every time you ramp would be better than this

>>171284657
retarded dragonshitter

What was /svg/'s reaction to the Daria reveal?

I started days after the RoB expac came out so I didn't know.

>>171284653
>zeus

You meant Israfil? Saha into Israfil is a better Salamander Breath with 4/4 body and hit face for 2.

>>171284030
>1PP or heal

Jesus, retards like you can't even get the card effect right and now you're trying to evaluate cards

>>171283694
They already answer everything we do. For the billionth time, a large body only survives against shitty aggro decks that only have 3 DoD and didn't draw them. She's going to get hit by evo trades like always. The only reason lucifer works is because he's bulky while offensive enough to kill shit crashing into him too after the opponent already blew their removal on you. Even then he still often dies the turn he's played

Sure, playing her and a shapeshift will be nice but you have to compare her to a saha-luci, a neptune pop, an eyfa, a masamune etc

>>171283702
Baphomet tutors it for play on t6. It's not weak at all

>>171284531
>face dshift
Dead turn 8
>face Nep
Good luck removing those Mordecais turn 8
>Cblood
I play Blood Moon. You flooded the board? Revelation
You have no pressure on board? Turn 6 4x Maelstrom Serpents

Current Ramp will be good against aggro after the inclusion of Rahab. Miku is rather meh.

>>171284716
>turn 9 do nothing

>>171284742
>Ramp into it
No ramp
>Play it on turn 5
No heal
>Play it later
Out of curve, better things to play

woooooooah

>>171284650
Where did I say tier 1? I've never implied that.
Right now dragoncucks bitching about muh 45% winrate because of Nep but in a haven heavy meta shadow will not survive.

That's the real issue I guess. How much do Dragoncucks actually want before they stop bitching? Do they want to be undeniable T1 or do they want to be viable? They can't seem to notice the difference.

>>171284547
But why Dragon of all crafts? Surely you could find better alternatives.

>>171284470
Not saying it's not good as such, just that you could just play Sword in this meta for better results if you wanted to go face, for example. Dragon is a pretty counter-intuitive choice for a face deck.

>>171283773
>You've sacrificed turns to ramp
>You need to regain momentum
>Have better alternatives
>Nah, just throw away another turn you'll be fine. Have 3hp (which fervor still didn't help which is why they made a fervor+body)

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>>171284634
Winstreaks and high winrates are all you ask of a deck anon. If it wins more than it loses, it's a good deck.
Pic related, his aggro dragon deck.

If you try this deck, know that the guy piloting it was playing desperately for the board, he didn't go face like a retard. This deck needs board control to kill. It doesn't have enough burn to evo face.

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>>171284634
Low Masters may be a meme heaven but most of them are actually just unmotivated players who just play a few games to get their dailies done so you could see a lot of them playing their best decks to get the quests out of the way ASAP. Not to mention you also get matched against AA2-3 and high Masters and those guys are extra tryhards.

Is it possible to uncensor the android version? Undubbing works but Isabelles puppers are still denied.

>>171284787
>Ramp into it
>Should've saha luci
>play it on turn 5
>Why didn't I play salamander's, or dragon warrior instead. Ded

>>171284787
>better things to play
Like what? Generic do nothing big dragon?

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>>171284671
Khaiza guy here, I still run a couple Skeleton knight as they are sticky for feeding the reaper and can be evolved to kill big wards and leave a small body behind. Pic related is the deck I'm currently running and having very, very good success with in AA2-3. Bone chimera is too slow imo and as i discussed with the guy above not being able to play buccaneer on curve really hurts him as a 3 drop.

>>171284802
>dragoncucks get to ramp in peace
>shit on everyone with turn 7 Bahamuts, especially Elanas
What did you mean with "shits on everyone" then, you backpedalling faggot?

>>171284029
This post proves that you have absolutely no understanding of the game. Cblood can actually afford to skip 1-2 turns, because they just remove your shit and heal themself up. Dragon doesn't have the privilege to go slower than they are right now.

>>171283430
Qubeley's actual name should be Cybele
http://wiki.rageofbahamut.com/Cybele

>>171284851
Forte/urd for example.

>>171284841
Is that an elven renge?

>>171284851
Like Saha+Luci

>>171284301

the new face dragon variant I see Japanese use with Lyrial/Carrot/Word is actually pretty darn good. You make your own board while pining away at theirs.

>>171284380
Oh I get you, that is pretty autistic.

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I like blood but Urias is too manly for me and I'm not a pedo

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Give me one reason not to liquify all my other cards to build a top tier Havendeck.

>>171283898
I don't even know. I'm down 5 legos and like 12 golds for count haven. Short too much stuff for ambush royal. Short way too much stuff for spirit cycle midrange shadow. Short way too much for dirt. I'll try an ironwrought-support cannon deck but I don't think I'll like sacrificing the storm board clear from subsequent commanders and sticky knight since I'll have to add a bunch of token generators for playing against people with a brain
I'll probably go back to thick dragon, cursed general storm. ironwrought-light, stat boost target immune haven, seacraft, and polyphonic. Maybe a neutralcraft deck

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>It's another episode of /svg/ can't evaluate cards for shit and will just wait for netdecks, as always.

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>>171284910
>Cybele
>not Qubeley

>>171284905
So?
Does it change the fact that if dragon gets the same card it will be bad?
So it's not actually "better than dragon emissary because it's not a dragon card" it's "better than a dragon emissary because it's in control blood".

>>171285005
what did you expect?

>>171285005
It's shit.

>>171283327
>People meme bash a staple dragon legendary because they lack the critical skills and experience to recognize a good card when spoiled

Lmao. The card IS SHIT, A FUCKING SHIT

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>>171284980
dshift

>>171284980
>one reason
a new expansion in 13 days that will completely change the meta

>>171284880
Figure of speech you nitpicking fag.

>>171285005
It sucks, the only cards it can replace in ramp are other ramp cards like Aiela.

>>171285005
never forget that /svg/ is composed mainly of /hsg/ refugee

>>171283327
Gorgeous art, for a "just decent" legendary.

Can you dragonfucks stop getting great art and having it for shitty abilities please?

>>171284160
Face is dead from all the ward and heal coming. It's become a time where 12 from hand isn't enough

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>>171285113

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>no good last word follower revealed
Please pray for Nep.

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>>171285080
Well, this is indeed a good reason.

>>171284787
>better things to play
Wasting 1 PP is not a big deal if you play it on turn 5 and it ramps you to 7. The 6 PP slot for ramp is pretty shit with the only card people running being the owl with ward, or Forte but why would you play her over ramping and healing. If you have 7 PP then you can play any of the numerous 2 pp things you also run.

This is literally "DRACONIC FERVOR IS A BAD CARD WAAAH" all over again. The point of the card is to RAMP. It gives dragon more consistent ramp options. Against other control decks you want to ramp as fast as possible so you have a huge mana advantage and can start shitting bahamut on them or drop a satan.

The people trying to evaluate this card must be aggro shitters who only know how to play on curve every turn and never played a control deck.

>>171285005
>if you are awake
PLEASE somebody make an image of rowen waking up.

also please, obviously a good amount of fags here can recognize that the card has potential.

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>>171285073
Glory be!

>>171285145
Are we now in yugioh, or already in mtg tier meta?

I really want to see all those dragoncucks saying Miko is shit not play her once the hottest netdecks will start including her, but of course this isn't going to happen.

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>>171284814
>But why Dragon of all crafts? Surely you could find better alternatives.
I don't give a fuck about the meta, I only play what is fun to me. Things like "better alternatives" mean nothing to me. In fact if I played something as overpowered as aggro sword then I would be bored out of my mind and I would uninstall the game, I don't see how anyone could stand playing that deck for more than 5 matches. I will reach master with my face dragon deck because that is what I decided.

Perhaps what I'm saying cannot be grasped by somebody who only plays according to meta and whatever is the most efficient deck at the moment.

>>171284560
More people need to run a flute or wyrm spire tech. Once you're in the mid-late game you can cover its play with a wild hunt/sieg post-trade and then everything that was a dead draw is back. I think it'll catch on once people play flute or wyrm spire decks in the opening month then start reapplying that to the main decks

>>171283327
>heals you 3 at the end of the turn if OVERFLOW is active
No reason to play this over lucifer

>increase your maximum PP by 1, If this is your 5th turn or later
Shit. I'd rather ramp and play fervor

>>171285005
That site rated Forest Warden as C and Lecia as S. They're more retarded than us.

>>171285102
Oh really, I guess "shits on everyone" is an euphemism now for "tier 2" whatever you say my man

>>171285230
>implying yugioh meta isn't more degenerate than mtg meta

Dragon lego fanfare is kinda meh since it's too conditional. You can't even get free heals the moment you drop her. Dragon needed the likes maneating amulet if they wanted ti deal with aggro

Plus isn't aggro kinda busted since big burst seems to be the theme of TOG?

>>171285145
Face Dragon doesn't run Urd, and sure as hell doesn't rely on a 10pp combo. They don't even run Ramp cards.

>>171285005
someone make pic where Rowen feeds her eggs

>>171285291
Miko doesn't lose the healing if you evolve her to trade. She's also cheaper so you can play her along some wards.

>>171285190
you don't really need or want to ramp at 6pp, you either set up a ward or use a removal like salamander breath, if you don't do this you're dead by turn 6 in ramp dragon

>>171284980
You'll eventually burn out and you wont be able to play other shit having assblasted your collection for 1/3 value

>>171285291
>>No reason to play this over lucifer
>makes ramping more consistent
>can actually evo trade and doesn't need to have his girlfriend summon him so he can remove +heal on the same turn he gets played.

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>/svg/
>rob
>they clearly want us to all play aggro!
>games are supposed to be quick!

>totg
>they clearly want us to all play control!
>games are supposed to take 20 turns!

>>171285317
Typical dragoncuck.
If it's not the absolute best most broken op it's shit.

>>171285190
Draconic fervor is such a good card ramp dragon is earth rite tier and people are already talking about replacing it with draconic fervor with a body and no card draw

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>>171284853
Not bad, maybe i'll try khaiza too. I was trying to solve card problem with 2 soul convertions, goblin mage helps too but i didn't get reaper even once and stopped using it. Also run 3 sextons for testing purposes, may switch them for dark conjurers or lyrials.

The only thing i don't like about aggro decks is auto including demon strike. That's such a trash and prevents me from doing anything. I decided to run pact against yurius, ancient elf, etc, at least i can use it on turn 3. It's usually a rare case that i need demonic strike as a finisher, as a removal any 3pp spell is better and you have to remove stuff like unica, 1/4ward, veight or some sword wards, i think it improves my chances against similar aggro or mid range decks.

Anyone have a good Elana and banish deck?

Unlike Fervor, you cannot keep Miko in starting hand and expect to ramp for the heal. It's rather funny they actually put a limiter on a fucking legendary.

>>171285309
the only time this site has ever been wrong in its evaluations is with shadow reaper, and everyone got that one wrong, so i trust it more than some random retards on this mongolian cartoon message board

>>171285005
>If you are awake
rowen confirmed woke as fuck

>>171285291
Or you can play her and get BOTH effect. Weird, I know.
Fucking retards I swear.

>>171285395
Conditional fervor with a body and no draw

>Start adding more water themed card to dragon
>Lego is water themed
>It has nothing to do with megalorcas
>It's not even that good either

They really have no idea what they are doing.

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>>171284924
No, it's a dragon snek loli of petrifying gaze

>>171285309
What site is that from?

>>171285486
>It's not even that good either

Stop posting already.

>>171285396
Yeah I only run 2 of dstrike for obvious reasons. It has won me a couple of games and occasionally it takes out a ward when I have a big board of small followers.
Sexton is generally low-power for a 2-drop. Lyrial and Conjurer both provide pings on evo turns and the latter gives you a target for a free soul conversion.

>>171285393
You are the one who was implying dragon will "shit on everyone" a prediction that has been made in every expansion and literally has never been true.
Keep backpedalling

>>171285393
>45% winrate class
>decent cards will surely push our class into the 50% winrate zone
>meanwhile other classes get powerful cards

>>171285532
>it's good
good luck losing turn 6 because you put 4/5 on table while everyone else five 5/5s

>card can only realistically replace unica/aiela/frevor (lol no card draw)
>good

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>Elana is coming back

>>171285486
Everyone got screwed over with this reveal.
It's not bad enough to be a meme, it's not good enough to be of any help to the deck.

>>171285463
Yes. If only decks could have more than 40 cards. I'll have to replace my bahamuts

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>>171284492
Man realm tings

Guys there are bigger problems than dragon being shit.

Elena's coming back.

Oh God.

>>171285291
>No reason to play this over lucifer
You can play her and removal in the same turn.
You can evo+heal with her.
Also just playing her as more Lucifer copies.

>>171285385
>every deck I play against is aggro
My god man, aggro is not the entire fucking game. If you're playing against another control/combo deck you ramp. If you're playing against aggro you drop wards and followers. The thing is if you're not ramping because you were dealing with followers every turn against aggro, this card actually gives you the chance to play a minion that can ramp while also allowing you to evolve and deal with the opponents board.

>>171285395
Why would you drop this over fervor you retard? You would obviously run both to have more ramp options and card draw/heal.

>>171285618
>need less cards to do the same things
>somehow takes more cards

>got an Aeila or oracle
>cannot play Miko for the fanfare on turn 4 even though she is your only 5PP card

Why the fuck would they ever place that turn restriction?

>>171285532
It's shit, you fool

>>171285510
cute

>>171285659
not that thicc but I'll take it

>>171284840
That's interesting deck, thanks for sharing.

>>171285580
>sword and elf gets powerful card

fixed.

>>171285660
if you're talking about the new silver that slaps the other guys face whenever you heal, it's a cute card but it's strictly win more. to take full advantage of it you need elanas out and heal cards but by that point, you are already winning
the card wont make elana tier 1

>>171285584
>>171285689
He told you to stop posting. Fucking D ranks.

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So that Haven go kill yourself Gold is definitely going to combo into something right?
There's definitely a reason why they'd make something that stupid right?

>ToG
>You want control
>play haven
>want combo
>play forest, or dim shift
>want a flexible deck with even winrates vs everything
>play sword
>want something harder to play than sword, yet still kinda okayish
>play shadow
Great meta design

>>171285764

Just use your new shota and play Elana.

>>171283898

Ctrl Forest, Mid Blood, Vengance Aggro, Eidolon Grail and Daria

>>171285746
>the card wont make elana tier 1

But Aegis will.

>>171285764
Guardian sun. It's like imprisoned dragon but only attacks in an emergency. Still shit though as it needs sun for even that

>>171285764
>There's definitely a reason why they'd make something that stupid right?
it's an overstatted ward and haven has tons of heals to counter the damage

that's about it

>>171285764
Run it into Grimnir and have it survive unlike every other 3 drop?

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>everybody is so busy arguing about some dragon slut nobody appreciates this qt who is also on an unplayable card.

>>171285738
>sword, elf and cblood matchup gets harder and harder
>dshift and nep still remain autoloss even if we had access to ever new revealed dragon card right now
Yup we surely can reach 50% winrate. But asking for 50% winrate is probably entitled, no dragon player should have that right.

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>>171285764
It combos with Aegis

Is Temple Defender good for Storm Haven?

And why don't people use Guardian Sun? It's a guaranteed ward on the big eagle, tiger, garuda, priest, lion spirit... I count at least 15 dudes that would get the ward effect

>>171285787
Oh, and blood has a chance to be same as shadow, if you draw bloodmoon

>>171283430
Pretty sure the name of the Forest card is Cybele, from Greek mythology

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>>171283898
Wont know till the netdecks come out. I dont have the time nor patience to test whether decks work myself, get about an hour to play shadowverse each day unless I want to play something else.

>>171285764
Which card?

>>171285863
le sammy faec

>>171285764

>a little bit of self damage in a class full of heals in exchange for good early game stats

Yeah, what are they thinking really.

>>171285659
Only good thing about it is the art.

>>171285872
Because the board doesn't matter. Even if you put two wards down, you'll still get otk'ed, dod'ed and hit in the face.

>>171285872
>And why don't people use Guardian Sun?
Turn 3 do nothing.

>>171285912
Gold, has +1/1 stats over followers of the same cost(wow!)
Fucking kills your leader or your other followers whenever it attacks

>>171285872
Temple defender is good
Sun is really bad in storm because you are already starved for tempo due to dropping amulets and that 1 board space can very often mean you are not getting enough space to pop arias. You usually don't have enough room to play both defensively and offensively but if you do get it off then I guess its alright...

>>171285863
>unplayable

She might work in earth decks.

>>171285970
>good early game stats meme XD

Holy fuck, kill yourself.

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there's still one dirt gold left isn't there

>>171285985
You mean turn 3 clog your board; gets removed by bahamut anyway

>>171285869
Fun fact, most classes don't have more than 50% winrate overall.
What you want is to be storm sword/OTK roach tier of broken, not just to be viable.

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>>171285990
And why would I want this card in my deck..?

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>>171285408

>>171285985
Atleast one-two turns early on is gunna be do nothing for control unless you draw perfect curve up to mid.

Guardian sun is a fun card.

>forest gets a lego that heals +20
>dragon gets a shitcard

Why does cygames hate dragon so much?

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FOUR GOLDS
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G
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>/svg/ just finished proving they have no idea what they're on about with the new dragon lego
>now trying to shittalk the havan gold

The visions.

>>171286014
It'll be daria gold.

>Arcane giant that is best played when you don't run sigils, illusionist that is useless and halo golem that is an arena card at best.
>E-ER is now good, n-no?

>>171286001
I dunno man, I'd rather kill myself than let the enemy draw cards for a potential bahamut.
Might be ok for Reaping people after they've played Satan though. Perhaps a 1 of.

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>>171286051
>most classes don't have more than 50% winrate overall.
What did he mean by this

>>171285390
>who's saying 20 turns? Everybody is gushing ~t10 10 dmg from hand

>>171286097
Nice r3ddit meme. The dragon lego is shit, anyone with 100+ IQ can understand it

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Cant wait to unzip the bap + mary + bel combo

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>>171285872
IT'S CALLED STORM HAVEN YOU FUCKING COWARD.
NOT "PROTECT MY ASS I'M SCARED OF DAMAGE" HAVEN

>>171286002
>can trade into 3/2 and survive
>can kill 2/3

B-but good stats are a meme. Literally stop playing this fucking game.

>>171286097
You have to go back.

>>171286097
Don't mind them, /svg/ is always wrong

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>>171286097
It's crazy, isn't it. I can't wait until the exp hits to see all your opinions go away. The same retards that bashed those "shit" cards will then praise them as absolutely mandatory because the best netdeck has them. Until then, we'll have to deal with "x card is shit".

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>>171286138
>50.1%
WE DID IT LUNABROS

>>171285872
Temple defender storm haven existed in DE to fuck over Dshift

>>171286186
10/10 post

>>171286138
>3 sub 50%
>3 exactly at 50
>1 at 54%

Go ahead, nitpick about that 0.1%

>>171286002
Blood has mostly 1/2 and 2/2 low cost followers, which are stronger early on than other aggro decks.

>>171286095
Grats on that animated Fairy Knight. Unironically.

>>171286220
shadow has been one of the top 3 classes for awhile now
you must be living under a rock

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>>171286220
>48.8% going second
We know who to thank.

>>171286051
What I want is a fucking card that gives Dragon +4% average winrate so they can be at fucking 50% and not 46%. If a Albert/Roach tier card is fucking necessary, then I will ask for it. I think I believe I have that right.

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>>171286138
>dragon is the weakest class right now

>>171286138
Reminder that according to /svg/ dragon doesn't deserve to be as good as even shadow or blood because muh ramp.

>>171286316
>now

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>>171286301
>We know who to thank.
Rowen?

>>171286362
delet this

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>>171286220
Nep deck can annihilate everyone except seraph and dshift, thats two meta decks and even then nep still has a good fighting chance, I dont see why everyone makes fun.

>>171286317
Nobody fucking said that ever.
Dragoncucks however will consider anything not T1 as bad at this point.

>>171286261
>The original poster says he wants dragon to reach 50% (not exceed it)
>Now this guy sperging out about how those 50% winrates aren't even higher so his point (?) is still valid
It's funny how everyone that argues dragon isn't shit has to keep backpedalling and moving goalposts every 2 minutes

>>171285486
It's more max pp to play queens and neirids including wiht Olivia idgaf

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>when you have an answer for everything the opponent pulls out of his ass

>>171286317
That's one thing that kinda pisses me off, people say it's fine that Dragon gets shitty cards because you can ramp into that but that's bullshit, you spend mana to do nothing other than to get stuff out early, we the fuck should we be punished for making an investment.

>>171286391
>Nobody fucking said that ever
>>171283462
Just one example of many

>>171285746
It narrows the gap where people can still scrap it out though.

>>171285764
It's an overstatted ward that trades for 2 in sun satan and it's an overstatted elana target in a deck that doesn't care abotu dmg

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>>171286220
49.9% actually across all ranks last week.

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tfw only play dragon
tfw only play ramp
tfw only want to have fun with big dragons (for you) and cute dragongrills
tfw 47% wr

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>>171284841
Soooo damn cute

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm27228141

Need to try an get my head around this current RoB event so I can enjoy the Medusa and Vuella alongside these collab characters

>>171285709
Here's another Man realm qt that made it to Dragoncraft

>>171285863
Epherma when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwuSdsCtJqQ

Even Khawy's tunes can't compare with the No.1 idol of the Land

I'll def try and run her in Earth. Melvie and Hulking Giant hopefully complements eachother well enough to justify her inclusion

>>171286391
I was expecting a broken card like khawy

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>>171286383
It was dark days for Shadow back in DE but we managed to hold on, and thanks to Reaper and Nep no less (the 2 cards that they called shit from the beginning).

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>>171286316
>right now

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>>171283327
>Checks the newest cards
>Dragon get awesome shit
>Sword gets awesome shit
>Rune gets awesome shit
>Shadow gets okay stuff
>Blood gets janky stuff
>Haven gets snailpace trash
>Forest gets more dank memes

Yep that's Cygames alright!
Fuck this game!

>>171285872
The slower you go the faster you'll hit ward/heal country agaisnt mdirange/control decks who are simply better built for it.

I might actually run melvi instead of fate's hand in ER.

Then again, I might drop the game and return only to play the story

How are nips reacting to dragon leggo anyway?

>>171286414
The best feeling in Take Two

>>171286396
He also said "yeah we surely can reach 50%" as if it's still a bad statistic.

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>>171286364
No, it's all thanks to aggro shadow. Delusional Nep faggots can go suck a dick.

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Okay, just for everyone's information, Im taking screencaps right now of ALL the posts that call the new Dragon Legendary "bad" or "do nothing" or "shit", etc.

In some weeks after we all see that Priestess is great and becames a staple in Dragon decks, I will repost again and again a big ass picture of all the faggots judging wrong the card.

Just to mock you, because it will be clear then than none of you knows shit about card games and wouldn't find a good card even under your own nose.

I really wanted to believe that all this is just some meme posting or the fault of /hsg/ mexicans, but it's clear it's more than that.
/svg/ is composed of the worth kind of players.

See you in 4 to 5 weeks!!

>>171286507
>almost all classes have more or less a 50% winrate
>rowen is dead last and desu will always be
>sword is the only class with >50% WR going first and second, and has the highest winrate by far
can we just delete these two classes already and distribute their good cards to the rest? i think we'll arrive at the perfect meta afterwards

Does the Bishop class have any actual paladins, or are all the paladins forever stuck in Royal?

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So, /svg/, what deck do you plan on making at the start of ToG?

>>171286579
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/471459846.htm

>>171286617
Dragon Legendary is bad, does nothing and is shti

A lot of legendaries that weren't used before will now be used in ToG.

Eidolon
Flute
Pascale
Beast Dominator
Rose Queen

>>171286579
>"dragun? desu desu nee chan itsu very shittu"

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>>171286617
>dragon leggo
>good

>>171286603
>But asking for 50% winrate is probably entitled, no dragon player should have that right.
I know reading comprehension is hard, but try to keep up ESL-kun

>>171286642
Midrange Shadow, Commandercraft, Magical Big Guy

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>>171286568
>this post
Are you from an alternate timeline?

>>171286617
Do the same for Zoe too desu.

>>171286642
>So, /svg/, what deck do you plan on making at the start of ToG?
whatever I manage to open duh, I don't have that much dust sadly

>>171286617
Good luck anon. Can't wait. It will no doubt see play but shitting on dragon has become such a huge meme that people can't shut up about shitting on every dragon card revealed.

>>171286568
The haven stuff is good my man and forest got amazing control cards.

>>171286617
What if it becomes a "staple" like fervor where it's run but the deck is still trash, will you still act like a hysterical passive aggressive woman?

>>171286603
You think Miku and Rahab are such extraordinarily good cards that can give a class a flat 4% increase in winrate, even compensating the fact that other classes are getting twin ward storms, unkillable 8/8 etc?

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>>171286671

>>171286617
Do it. The new lego is shit, rahab is mediocre, aina is shit and hippocampus is a shit. If this is wrong, I'll print this post and eat it

>>171286617
Yeah sure add me in that screen cap.
New Dragon Lego is pretty bad because of it's retarded TURN 5 no 5 PP restriction, Can't ramp into it or you'll miss out on the PP, the slightly better Unica heal is only available after overflow.
The card isn't unimaginably terrible, it's probably worth running just for the fact that it's a better unica at turn 7 and above. Complaint is that it's not good enough to actually help dragon. It'll probably be a "staple" in dragon decks but Dragon isn't going to hit 50% winrate.
Screencap this.

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>>171286714

>tfw you can combo dire bond and revelation
>Everything the daria spastic pulled out of his ass dies
Feels good, especially when dire bond draws another revelation or righteous devil.

>>171286617
You're autistic, seek help if you care about "showing up" a bunch of people who are bad at card games

p.s. /svg/ being composed of the worst kind of players includes dicks like you.

>gating ramp cards behind legendary rarity
Yes
The dragon decks absolutly need to cost 6 million vials

>>171286617
I do that too, but I couldn't bother screencapping the retards bashing the new dragon legend. It was obvious shitposting.

>>171286617
NEW DRAGON LEGGO IS FUCKING GARBAGE, DOESN'T MATTER IF EVERY DECK RUNS IT, IT DOES NOTHING MORE THAN AIELA/FREVOR DOES IN A 45% WINRATE DECK

>>171286683
But nobody fucking said anything about that.
I just said that even a 50% is good enough.

>>171286579
Presenters said it was a strong card.

"finally a strong card for dragon"

Something like that.

>>171286617
its trash put me in the screencap

hello redd*t

>>171286736
Yes, something which nobody ever plays and never will because Forest has got ONE DECK, which is roach.

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New dragon lego revealed, guys.

>>171285660
With these so many good amulets coming out, People would want 2-3 amulet destroyers in their decks. Elana is collateral damage.

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>>171286186
Not bad. Got a little chuckle there, Freedom Birb.

>>171286617
Good post

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>>171286617

Hip hip you cuck