/hsg/ - Hearthstone General

>vS Data Reaper report
The rise of Jade Druid prevents Pirate Warrior from being countered more consistently. While we have seen an improvement in this matchup from the Druid’s perspective over the past week, it’s unlikely to ever be more than a 50-50 affair. So, Jade Druid can never have a significant debilitating impact on Pirate Warrior’s presence. What Jade Druid does instead is preventing any counter to Pirate Warrior from being ladder-viable by completely annihilating it. In order to deal with extreme amounts of uninteractive burn and weapon damage, you need extreme sustainability and mitigation. Sustainability and mitigation is the exact opposite of what you need in the Jade Druid matchup, which forces you to be the aggressor or lose to inevitability. Pirate Warrior has losing records against Control Warrior, Reno Mage and Control Shaman. All of these decks get completely destroyed by Jade Druid. Imagine a game of Rock/Paper/Scissors where Paper gently wraps itself around Rock, Scissors can cut a few holes in Paper, but Rock…. Rock just smashes Scissors to pieces and leaves nothing behind. This is the current situation in Hearthstone.

Tfw cant lose stars at rank 5

comfy

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Success breeds jealousy.

Why the fuck did they had to ruin arena?
Now it's even more unfair, instead of outdrafting and calculating for value at all times you just get shit on if you don't get constructed tier synergy.

Why was everyone applauding this shit again?
They didn't even remove flamestrike/abyssal and I constantly see them, they literally did nothing but buff the fuck out of lucky drafts and nerf careful, value arena style of play.

>>171231779
>>171231828
>there's no place for Ysera in any deck
this meta is a fucking horror

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>>171231969
>windows 10

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Reddit was right
preorder gives you like 90% of the cards you need

>>171231785
>no innkeeper/hearthpwn
>8 year long quest line before I can actually play the game
No thanks, friend.

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>Thread takes 24 hours to hit post limit and autosage

HAHHAHAA

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>>171232158
Why would you need innkeeper if the game itself has native deck importing/exporting?


https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63FiQ.63FiQ.63FiQ.61NLI.61NLI.61NLI.63Ezi.63Ezi.63Ezi.6Avi6.6Avi6.6Avi6.5_RZQ.5_RZQ.5_RZQ.676H-.676H-.676H-.673s2.673s2.673s2.6Aysw.6Aysw.6Aysw.61PnY.61PnY.5_TGy.5_TGy.6Avhy.6Avhy.6AviG.6AviG.6AviG.63Jsg.63Jsg.63Jsg.6A-aI.6A-aI.6A-aI.5_TGy

Try again my man.

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>>171231785

>swordfag
>post nearlewd to bait threads
>uses cunny unironically
Its like you dont want people to play it.

>>171231969
Anon's first gaslighting attempt.

>>171232281
So I can see what I'm missing/how much dust I need to build said decks?

Try again.

You also failed to address this ridiculous "story"

>>171231952
>play rank 5
>pirate warrior
>pirate warrior
>pirate warrior
>jade Druid
>pirate warrior

>>171232158
8 years is the amount of time you need to farm up as f2p to start building decent decks in Hearthstone

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>>171232124

>>171232813
HEARTHKEKS BTFO

CUNNYVERSE WINS AGAIN

Can i draw reno one fucking time please?

Everytime i play aggro they ALWAYS have reno
Everytime i play this stupid ass deck i NEVER get reno

Fucking shit.

>>171232805
What is a deck that has a positive winrate against pirate shit? I'm at rank <5 and I wanna farm those guys.

>>171232693
You're confusing it with Hearthstone. Where basically Hearthstone decks completely break down when missing a core card, those decks are far more flexible.

The story gives you a lot of free gold, dust, arena tickets and some basic cards. Takes about 15 minutes per class.

Good luck leveling all classes to level 10 in Hearthstone while only having access to basic decks. It will take much longer than that.

>>171232813
False. It takes maybe a couple days. Plus I don't have to deal with any attempt at a shit story.

>Mulligan Patches
>Draw Patches

Does anything feel worse?

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>>171233183

>>171233320
playing against patches desu

>>171233053
I think the only deck that can slow it down is perfect openers by dragon priest

>>171233037
I know your pain

>>171233053
Control warrior is the hardest counter. Enjoy 0% winrate vs druid though

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What happened to that guy trying to do his quests?

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>>171233053
tempo mage is pretty good against it and can beat druids

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>>171233806

>>171234027
If you put Tony in you also beat warlocks

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I was just comically annihilated by a raza shadowpriest deck.

Why is this bullshit even in the game? It goes beyond MTG-tier bullshittery with this "unconditional instagib" crap.

Whatever miracoli decks were present in the past, they were always conditional and depended on state of the board, both yours and the enemies and how you and your enemy have played thorough the set. For example, in patron warrior to execute an instakill you had to perform a combo properly, so either you had to wait for sufficient mana pool and cards in your hand, or preset it by seting up a turn before you would do so. If you decided to do the latter, your opponent could always ruin your plans by dealing with the preset patron, preset frothing, preset armorsmith, preset warsong or whatever the fuck you decided to preset a turn before, so you could execute full combo next turn. And even if you could you would still be limited by the board, like you having not enough place on your side, or your opponent having minions too big/with taunt/whatever else.

This priest is completely retarded in a way that all you need is 3 fucking cards that you simply have to play whenever, at any time, sooner, later, in the moment you fucking want to, with the only """"""""condition""""""""" is being that coldarra goes in the turn you go for kill, heh. If it goes lucky, you shadowform on 3, raza on 5 and then coldarra with kill on 6. If it goes less lucky all you have to do is survive long enough until tutor through the deck for these 3. As if priest had no utility to do so with alexstraszas, renos, whatever fucking else.

Oh did I mention it doesn't fucking matter how much armor you possibly have?

>>171234396
Because there's like a 1% chance you get Coldarra from Kabal courier?

>>171234550
haha shit you're right

what did i expect from a children's wizard poker

>>171234550
That makes it balanced :^)

>>171234396
armor does matter, you can only hero power 30 or so times a turn before running out of time

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>>171234891
>you can only hero power 30 or so times a turn before running out of time


this is comedy gold

>>171235057
Don't forget that hero power is bugged and every time you use it too fast or skip turn during an animation there is a probability the game will fuck itself up and won't even let you rejoin

>>171234396
You do realize what the chances are of getting Coldarra Drake, right?
He hinges his entire deck on an OTK combo.
Raza priest is a joke if they don't curve well during the first 6 turns.

You got RNG'd, much like Shredder giving your opponent a Millhouse and you a fucking parrot or Doomsayer when you have a considerably larger board than them.

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is this a fresh TempoStorm.com recommended tech choice?

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>>171235708
hey that happened to me a while ago

>>171235708
>complaining about brawl
What is this, 2016?

>>171235872
look at the board, does it look like i'm complaining?

>its a 3 quest day
uugghhh i just want to play Faeria man

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So who did everyone choose for the tournament?
Who is the best bet for the free packs?

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>get a mage quest
>decide to play freeze mage
>queue into the only control warrior on ladder
are there people who honestly believe this game is not rigged?

>>171237726
roll a dice 5 times and divide by the 6th dice roll. Pick whoever is that number

>>171237726
Pavel, since he has the highest winrate of all the pros.

>>171231854
What is "vS Data Reaper report"?

Otherwise seams right

>>171238657
how does he match up vs the people in his group

>>171237808
Honestly, i'll take some bullshit losses if Blizzard allows me to get bullshit wins to legendary ya know?

Its an even trade

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can you spot the fun interaction?

>>171239256
you wipe the whole board with spells
that seems pretty fun :>

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>>171239256
this is the kind of bullshit that would have me ragequit for the day

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>>171238756
I haven't researched it to that extent. I just saw a video on youtube talking about why Pavel is the best player.

>>171239256
Hero power on Jaina

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IT'S TIME

WHO DO WE PICK /HSG/

>>171239467
he should have hero powered an extra turn and he would have lived.

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>>171239704

>>171239704
pavel

>>171239742
he hero powered most turns but I kept pinging the armor down every time I had the mana
I wonder if he wasn't running feral rages - thought he was just being greedy and waiting for alex

>>171239803
but Pavel is a trash player that lucked out big time

>>171240027
kek
no player in the history of hearthstone has had as high a win rate in tournaments, over any reasonable sample size, as pavel has for the last few months

>>171240027
>lucked out in multiple tournaments
lol yeah okay

>>171240027
calm down there Amnesiac

>even in casual I run into nothing but pirate warriors
>pirate warriors aren't losing shit during mammoth
great game blizzard

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How far can she go, boys? Keep in mind I've got like a 4-5-win average. :V

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Has anyone who calculated the probability of Yogg-Saron kill/silence/transforming himself after X+1 spells and X+1 minions on board posted a chart or anything?

>>171241096
I guess 10

>>171241096
Next game you'll run into a Wild deck who curves otu perfect, including going first and a chow on 1 that never dies.

Your mulligan hand and draws will all be 5+ cost

>>171241391
fuck only two

>>171241354

Wait what? Are people still encountering Wild decks?

>>171241484
Who are you even replying to, fag???

>>171241491
It happened to me yesterday lad. That exact scenario.

>>171241554
are you blind retard?

>>171241578

The loss on this run was against a super-aggro Shaman that rolled me by turn 7. Got a bad Mulligan and pretty much instantly lost. Whaddayagonnado.

>>171241714
lol look at this kid he got caught replying to no one like a looser and now he mad

>>171241391
>>171241484
I got 3.

>>171241554
>>171241830
You're actually too stupid to be on this website, and that's a low bar.

>>171241830
i didnt reply to no one moron. i replied to someone.
ugh, are you seriously blind??? omg

for arena, who should I pick? druid warrior or shaman?

>>171242474
shaman

Free 80 gold anyone?
Kaloth#1192

>>171241207
Not that I know. All I know is that the last time someone played Yogg against me he buffed my minions then mulched himself and gave me a free card.

>>171242739

NA or UK? Added you.

>>171242739
Sent:)

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Soon

>>171242991
which class?

>have brawl quest
>literally every single retard is roping and "thinking" about their moves

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>>171243076

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>>171242739
thanks for the 80g homie

>>171238657
Yeah I honestly, couldn't give a shit I just know Pavel wins tournaments quite a bit. Hey that rhymed.

>>171242739
>>171242954
>>171242959
Sorry some anon claimed it already. Thanks to everyone who added me though!
>>171243490
Yeah, nice potion btw ;) I was fucked anyways but it was funny.

I haven't kept up with this dead game since memezan, where can I find all the revealed cards for new expac?

>>171244105
on leddit
there are only like 4 cards revealed already though, spoiler season starts tomorrow with a blizzard stream

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>>171243162
it's the thinking man's brawl.

Has anyone won going first in the brawl? The extra party crasher going second gets is fucking OP.

>>171245524
get good

would it be possible to make a bot that creates 1000 battle net accounts, logs on to each one once every 24 hours to refresh the daily quest until it gets 80 gold and then challenge you? I don't care if you steal this idea as long as it costs the greedy merchants some shekel

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>>171243162
Do you go first?
Concede
Do you have the coin?
Win by default

>>171245829
>going through all that fucking effort just to get 80 gold
you do realise the money you spend on electricity is way more than the ones you would spend on packs right?

>>171245649
Finally did it,all it took was mass dispel plus ramming their face with sea giant.

>>171246383
>not just going paladin and buffing your party boys into oblivion

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Here's your daily dose of kawaii.

>>171246609
>there are people on this earth who think this horrible shit looks better than blizzard's naxx card design
I have no words

>>171239704
pavel because hsg told me so. If i get a free pack im happy

>>171246975
It's a 3 pack difference at the most so who really cares. 1 free pack is fine, everything else after that is just a bonus for me.

>>171245829
there's a limit to how much gold you can get per day from that quest

>>171247445
how much is it?

>>171246052
implying my pc isnt already on all the time

>>171246609
spare us tommorrow
i'd rather have a daily dose of semen over this trash and im straight

>be priest
>be an expert in the class, stick with Anduin through thick and thin, achieving 500 ranked wins by the force of superior intellect
>absolutely love Drakonid Operative, a well-designed card that allows me to get even deeper under my opponents' skin and completely outclass them with next level plays
>have more fun than ever before even though I can't so casually hero power opponent's face on turn 2 and emote anymore ;)
>still lose to 30 damage from hand because I'm too intelligent to nigger away some armor card

>>171248754
>Drop minions on curve
O U T S K I L L E D

When do we get the WOG pack for voting?

>Opponent can vomit out shitloads of damage in the blink of an eye
>Doesn't interact with the board at all, unless I throw a taunt down, then he bashes it with an UPGRADED weapon and continues smashing my face
>Struggle to turn 6
>Play a card that I had to gimp my deck to activate, meant to punish my opponent's hubris

>Somehow I'M the bad guy.

>play arena
>draft an amazing deck
>go second
>lose
STORIES TO TELL YOUR FRIENDS

>>171250674

I've learned that the easiest way to win going second is to get two 2-drops in your starting hand and coin one out on turn one. Play the second on turn two and hope to draw into a curve.

So yeah, just get really lucky, play on curve, and you win. Simple, right?

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>Be me, giant faggot
>Never made it past rank 18
>Drop game just after MSogpG due to Pirate and Jade overload, on top of Rogue being turned into a literal meme class
>Came back recently with Frankensteined Goonadin
>Dropping 6/6 Dopplegangsters on turn 5
>10 damage Leeroys the turn after for the kill
>Jade can't stop me
>Pirates barely come close
>Instagib Hunters
>Out-board zoolocks
>Only issues are Dragon Priests, who are getting axed in April

Let the elf MILF into your hearts, Anons. You all know Paladin is the master race.

secret hunter strong against jade druid

>>171254069
Playing handbuff paladin is the clunkiest shit ever though.
Sure, you can catch up with pirate nigger and eventually shut him down before he could kill you.
Sure, you can outvalue greedy decks and eventually run them out of removal.
But to do any of this, you need so autismally perfect draw literally nothing compares, resulting in a pathetic winrate anywhere in the single digit ranks.

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Fucking shaman Reeeeeeee

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>>171255152
Nevermind I won

>>171254695
Playing with buffed AoP's and Divine favor typically make drawing a lot less of an issue, the only time I've ever been super fucked is when

>Opening hand is literal garbage, as in borderline unplayable under any circumstances
>SUPER hard removal from a Mage, typically just makes the game run too long to keep up
>Dragon Priest drops more stats than I can muster

Outside of that it's a pretty fun face bashing deck.

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>Play water rogue without shaku
>Do well but decide to craft him anyway since he seems like fun
>First match against an aggro warrior
>Get shaku in my opening hand
>Gives me "I know a guy"
>Discover 2 shit taunts and a dirty rat
>Decide to pick Dirty rat
>Doesn't draw a minion and protects me from 7 damage
>Next turn shaku gives me inner rage
>use it to kill his 1hp frothing
1 game and i'll already in love with him.

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Bump

What do you guys hope for tomorrow?

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>>171257405
Something other than boring stats, gaining boring stats, or recycling keywords over and over with slightly different statlines.

>>171257405
Fun cards

Cards that make me go "whoa that would make for a really cool deck/combo"

>>171257405
for them to not nerf into oblivion the one fun deck that comes from epic meme cards

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>>171257697
Which one?

>>171257405
Blizzard announcing the shutting down of Hearthstone's servers.

>>171257517
holy shit he was young

>>171257405

Therazane legendary for Shaman.

I WANT MY ELEMENTAL LORDS DECK BEN YOU HACK REEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

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>>171258197
This would be fun.

>>171257405
The removal of Warrior as a class.

Warriors all suck and should die.

>>171257405
No shitty cards that make me play what blizzard wants me to play.

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>>171248754
To think that there are actually people out there who consider priest their favorite class

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>>171241096
>>171241260
>>171241354

GIVE ME YOUR ENERGY, /hsg/! THE MINI-BOSS IS AT HAND!

>>171248754
>plays priest
>thinks Drakonid Op is a well designed card
>unironically honestly thinks he's entitled to any complaints whatsoever

>>171259491
good luck buddy

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>>171259863

I FACED THE FINAL BOSS

AND GUESS FUCKING WHAT I WAS LISTENING TO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S_gLohI4XE

ONE FUCKING YEAR OF PLAYING ARENA AND I FINALLY GOT 12 WINS!

FUCK

Who do I vote for to get free packs

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who am I?

>>171260869
NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS.

>>171260869

400 dust

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>>171261069
>>171260869

winner!

>>171260869
What type of pack is it?
Golems are a girl's best friend!

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>>171260680
gratz friend

>>171261212

Hey now, White Eyes isn't half bad in Mid-Range Shaman.

>>171261602
Yea, he's auto-include in any shaman non-aggro deck. The only problem being that currently such decks aren't viable.

I'm pretty sure one day he'll be fun in a Wild N'zoth deck, too.

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Have you roped some pirate scum today?

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>>171261995
>EvilAsSatan
scary

>>171262560
Fuck off, weeb.

>>171262628
you're just as evil as him :c

>>171262628
harsh words to use on a north korean rice farming site

>>171262964
This board is for videogames and we're in a card game thread, why bring up rice farming? Lol, so random.

>>171261995
>___fag outside of 4chin
wow dude ur so cool everyone will understand the meems accurately

>>171263361
> No one would understand why they were called Noun + fag without visiting 4chan

Shut up faggot.

>>171263673

What a big, strong Internet warrior you are. I bet you get all the pussy.

>>171263745
Thank you.

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are you ready?

>kripp reviewing peoples OC

this is neat

>>171264261
who?

>>171264283
delete this

>>171264465
kripp.....

>>171264283
>doesn't know Kripp

Get out, newfag

>>171264261
kripp knows shit about constructed. He should be the last person to review OC.

>>171264209
>insert obvious clever girl card

>>171265482
He doesn't know shit about hearthstone

>>171266025
He is great at arena, you have to give him that. But kripp casting tournaments or talking about card design or making decks is always a recipe for failure.

>>171261995
No, roping because of Team 5's inability to balance their game is just plain faggotry.

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holy fuck, they actually went out of their way to "fix" this brawl, it got THAT shitty

>>171266884
What did they do?

>>171266902
Party crashers limited to 1 copy on each side of the board. Respawn if killed, doesn't spawn a second one if silenced.

>>171266560
Nah, playing pirates is faggotry.

>>171267369
Not if it's clearly the most powerful deck, which it is. You can't blame anyone to play what's the strongest. In a game, it is only natural to try to win.

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>>171267507
Fuck off, OC faggot. You're not welcome here.

>>171267505
>which it is.
Lol, no.

Rope every pirate faggot you see.

>>171267887
>wasting your own time so you can potentially waste the time of an anonymous stranger playing a deck in a children's card game that makes you upset

Amazing.

>>171267887
Yes, it definitely is the strongest deck currently on the ladder. Look for example at Tempostorm's meta snapshot. If you disagree, tell me, what decks are better than pirate warrior right now?

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>>171268450
>Watching a youtube video on the other monitor while someone playing a deck designed for fast wins waits in agony.

And the person posting on 4chan is talking about wasting time, hmm?

>>171267887
sad!

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Cards that should also have been rotated

will blizzard ever stop punishing people for playing control decks

>>171268681
B-b-but it takes skill to drop him and use 4 free/1-mana spells

everytime i come back to the game i just realize it's legitimately impossible to actually enjoy playing this

i just leave feeling a mix of angered or bored
every deck is the same and every meta deck is absolute pure cancer to play against

everything is outside of your control since aggro decks are 5-turn decks that depend solely on draw since they run maybe 4 one drops and every control deck is a discover a random shitfest with no duplicates and zero consistency whatsoever

it honestly fucking BAFFLES me how blizzard managed to create such an absolutely unfun to play expansion. it has no fucking redeeming qualities whatsoever, everything is either cancer or unusable

>>171269127
Its more profitable that way, that you either spend the cash to get all the good cards or you don't have much hope of succeeding.

>>171265482
well we can see when he releases the video

I usually don't watch his videos because he has an annoying way of speaking, like he just apparently can't speak normally like on stream, but we'll see

I liked some of the OC cards he previewed

why does hearthstone have to be so expensive? i dont have to spend a bunch of money to play any other game

>>171232693
I started playing a month ago, I already got 3 alberts and enough dust to make an aggro sword. They gave away 8 packs this week.

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>>171269508
Why indeed

>>171268819

No, because look at >>171261995

>I go work and have 10 min

is literally what HS is built around. It's not meant for schmucks who actually play it on the computer and have free time with which to torture ourselves, it's for straight-laced fags who have 5-10 minutes to crack out a game while squeezing out last night's dinner on their first work break. Control decks only serve to ruin their experience, hence their constant beating by Blizzard so that control players don't ruin their potential market.

But, seeing as how control decks persisted in surviving past turn 7 each game, Blizzard had to go from "subtle control nerfing" with shit like Secret Paladin and "Midrange" Shaman to overt "FUCK CONTROL" decks like Jade Id-...erm, Druid.

>>171269127

I'd actually prefer it if the game was more aggro heavy, the power level between viable and non viable midrange/control decks is now so fucking stupid I miss the undertaker hunter days

>browsing /vg/ looking for the fire emblem thread
>see /hsg/ thread
>decide to check it out because I used to play this shittty RNGfest
>it has more RNG now
>it's more p2w now

kek, I am glad I sold all my botted accounts for like 500 bucks.

>>171269956
>it has more RNG now
No it doesn't.

Definitely more pay to win with the price increase soon, but don't lie and say RNG got worse.

>>171269652
why did you post an abstract pizza?

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>>171270278

>>171270103
RNG didn't get worse? The cross class discover cards can discover straight up broken shit like iceblock frost armor jaraxxus, Reno mage win condition is pretty much just generating retarded random value you can't play around or trying to be freeze

Not to mention all Reno decks which are the only control allowed by blizzard are much more rng because of how inconsistent having only one copy of a card is

And then aggro matchups last 6 turns or so so the game depends ENTIRELY on how the aggro player draws. If he could see his card queue he could just forfeit in the spot

Oh and rat pulls deciding control matchups, ragnaros still existing, etcétera

>>171270483
To be fair, Discover is a serious improvement on the game, it was A LOT more random before. Instead of straight up getting a random card, you get to choose between three random cards.

>>171270278
Are you colorblind, anon?
That's a serious question.

>>171270379
i dont get it

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>>171261735
>aggro shaman is no longer meta
>such decks aren't viable

What? Although you're right about greedy control shaman being cucked by jade druid

>>171270836
The picture is inspired from medical tests that diagnose colorblindness. A colorblind person will see all dots in the same color, while a person that see colors normally will recognize some symbol by seeing a slight color difference for certain dots. In this anon's pic, said symbol is a happy merchant's silhouette.

>>171270614
>Discover is a serious improvement on the game
Kazakus (created by Cabal Courier)
Brann Bronzebeard (created by Drakonid Operative)

>>171270773
no i just dont know what im suppose to be seeing

>>171271009
I never said discover isn't random.
It is random, but it's still less random than the other mechanics we had before LoE.

>>171269863
C'Kun and maly druid lists are better control busters than jade anyway, just because one card prevents fatigue doesn't mean it's the single mist busted tool against meta control decks

>>171271585
>infinite minions that do repetitive damage
>vs combo pieces that need to be saved and ineffective against control warrior
hmmmm

>>171233053
pirate warrior with double bash

>>171271713
>doesn't realize you can hit the autowin combo button more consistently with aforementioned decks than win with jade (already a very favorable matchup against renolock, cw, etc.) if you actually know how to play them

It's not like they can't both be good vs. control

What time today are they showing the new cards?

>>171273426
In 10 hours

>>171270614

discover was neat when it was a rare keyword and it drew from a tiny pool (3 drops, paladin spells that can be guessed by the amount the paladin heals for)

the power creep for discover in streets was retarded

>tfw I only have 3800 gold for packs
I refuse to give those Jews any more money
Feelsbadman

>>171273498
And? That changes nothing to my point. Discover may be overpowered in many cases, but it STILL is a lot less random than most other Hearthstone mechanics. Hell, in most cases it's even less random than a fucking draw from your own deck.

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>>171273426
Less than three hours from now.

>>171273681
>>171273475
Im not sure what to believe

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>>171233320
>Mulligan
>Draw Patches
>Then get carried hard by Finja
>Twice
>Get rank 5

Everything turned out alright

>login shadowverse
>get a pack for logging in
>open it
>has a legendary
NOICE
>close shadowverse

>>171273669

it wasn't less random, it was just less toxic in the outcome

>>171232805
memerange jade shaman with 2 maelstrom 2 L.storm 2 devolve 2 healing fish

How would you improve the rank 1-5 player experience?

>>171274032
You can ban a class

>>171274032
less stars and best of 3

>>171273835
Anon, it is by definition less random. The player gets a choice. You know he will always choose the best outcome out of three. It is definitely a critical factor. More decisions = less randomness. The very nature of the Discover mechanic is a mitigation of randomness. There's nothing to discuss here.

>>171274032

just copy the sc2 system with a grandmaster rank to jack off the pros

>>171274181
that's legend

>>171274198

master would be legend

>>171274239
master is 1-5

>>171274165
>The very nature of the Discover mechanic is a mitigation of randomness
you mean an excuse for them to push more randomness

>>171274286

1-5 is platinum

>>171274324
no
/thread

>>171274302
that too, yes. The fact remains that replacing any random effect by a discover effect makes it less random.

>>171274361

never reply to me posts again

>>171274393
no
never reply to my posts again

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card reveal hype
finally we get to see and talk about the cards
there will be trump and kripp vids about it too

>>171274625
>inb4 we get 1 card today thats just 3 mana 3/2 adapt

>>171274625
>tfw they reveal a single vanilla minion today

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btw are they gonna reveal like all the cards? since it's a livestream rather than like giving people some cards to review?
i'm thinking it will probably be like that right, go over pretty much the entire set, show some videos with it in action. basically do like this 1-2 hour shill stream just promoting and sharing as many of the new cards as possible all at once

i hope it will be like that

>>171274738
No, they will just reveal a few cards a day for several weeks. Maybe we'll now all the cards before the last day, maybe we'll have to wait something like one week after all the cards have been revealed. But nothing more.

>>171274738

I assume it's going to be a few matches that have some new cards, I doubt it'll be more than a handful

>>171274738

the ungoro meta would be figured out by this time tomorrow if they did that

>>171275063
Except for at the Blizzard HQ, where the new 'adapt your pirates' and 'adapt your weapons' 2 drops are still on their radar in 4 months time.

I AM SO FUCKING HYPED FOR 2/3 ADAPT

HEARTHSTONE IS TRULY SAVED

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>>171275165

>>171274165
>discovering any card from 3 different classes is less random

>>171275240
JUST FUCKING IMAGINE
ADAPT: GAIN BATTLECRY: DISCOVER AN ADAPAT MINION

>>171274625
SUPER INTERESTING CARD!

8 MANA 8/8, NO TEXT

COMPLETELY NEW MANA/STATLINE!

BROTHER OF WARGEN GREASER!

GUYS, GUYS

HOW ABOUT

ZERO MANA

1 / 2

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Going as pirate warrior against priest
>turn 1
He coins out two activated whelps
>turn 2
Plays an activated wyrmrest agent and emotes

And I still kill him by turn 6

>>171275330
Yes. It is definitely less random than getting a random card from 3 different classes. The discover mechanic is by definition a mitigation of randomness. Any random effect, when replaced by a discover effect, immediately becomes less random. That is always true.

>>171275708
Powercreep, but would still never see play

>>171275715
Pirate warrior in a matchup where it's the more interesting and skillful deck, neat. At least aggro rogue stepped up as the "interesting" aggro deck to replace aggro shaman

>rogue card
>forbidden tutor
>Spend all your available mana
>discover a card from your deck of that mana cost, if none exists, draw a card instead
Would this fix rogue?

can someone explain to me why someone thought it made sense to name the keyword 'poisonous' rather than 'venomous'?

it is literally on traditionally venomous creatures like cobras and spiders, not poisonous ones

why is there 0 quality control for hearthstone when it comes to card text?

>>171275848
because the cards are supposed to be played in rogue

>>171275708

>1/1 pirate, gain 1hp every time a pirate is played

>>171275831
>fix rogue
>arguably top class in the game, easy top 3

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>>171275807

>>171275848
SMALL INDIE DEV
FOOD AND SHELTER
PIZZA DELIVERY BOY

Card reveal on twitch when?
7 Hours?

>>171275848
This bothers me too, its like the defending minion took a bite out of the attacking poisonous minion.

>>171275989
9 hours.

>>171275989

9 hours from this post

>Discover an adapt minion

Which class is going to get this 1 mana spell?

Note that paladin, rogue, warrior, shaman already have similar spells. I guess Raven Idol could count for druid too.

>>171276032

>priest; discover an adapt minion from your opponents class

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2 mana shaman spell
>randomly adapt all your minions twice

>>171275848
they said they knew it was actually venemous, but most people don't know the difference and they took the word that was easier to understand

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>>171275939
ok

>>171276080
Im willing to bet that they actually didnt know it was venomous. They say otherwise, but im not so sure...

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>>171275848
The real problem is how it's an adjective instead of a noun.

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>wake up and flamewaker is still in the game and the creator isn't lynched

>>171276070

please don't give them ideas

>>171276080
Not every poisonous card is a venomous beast tho, some are humans that use other poisons

>>171276032
Probably druid, I think. After all, they already got a vanilla adapt minion; also, most adapt minions are going to be beasts, and beasts are a druid archetype they want to push; furthermore, adapt is an effect very similar to most "choose one" effects; finally, adapt is flavor-wise close to what druids usually get/do

The fact that druids already have raven idol will not prevent this in my opinion, because it is very druidish to have many choices through cheap spells; but if it does, then the class with this spell ought to be hunter, because of beasts

>>171276017
>>171276029
Thanks lads, i really hope they reveal some 1 Mana 1/2 Beast with adapt

>>171276248
It will be mage for some reason

>>171276302
Did you select mage at random?

>>171276080
I have a hard time believing its true because its retarded, but it also is what I expect from hearthstone given that their policy on mechanics is "dont bother explaining them at all if it takes too many words for 15 year olds to understand"

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>>171276248
There may be a similar hunter card with some sort of hunting/taming theme to fit the indirect draw archetype

>>171276302
Mage will get Discover an elemental

3 mana 10/0 Battlecry: Adapt

>>171276376
Mage or shaman? I think they'll choose shaman, even though they already have "discover an overload card"

>>171276368
What do you mean exactly? Could you give an example?

>>171276376
>not shaman

I hope they make djinni an elemental and add an elemental combo synergy card to meme in wild with

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For what reason did they destroy blade flurry again?

>>171276415
>Literally a "battlecry: have 60% chance of being destroyed"
Random enough to fit Hearthstone's game design philosophy.
Could make the smugglers viable, though.

>>171276070
You forgot overload: 2 to make it balanced :^)

>>171276486
Because people were getting sick of a 2 mana spell that dealt 8 damage to all enemies.

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How's that saving up going /hsg/?

>>171276323
No, more like assuming they will make the stupidest choice possible for the card, that choice in my mind being mage

>>171276589

got 5 wow tokens from what was left of my wow gold so i got 50 packs from that and another 6k gold in hs

even with all that i'll probably still have to buy packs

>>171276589
2450 rupees and ~28k vials

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Chinks have been getting closer to winning majors, I think it's time.

Pavels outrageous RNG streak can't continue this long

>>171277192
>not believing in Dr. Pavel

>>171277192
Are decklists up? I want to vote for the meme master

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Using Cabal Shadowpriest on my Lorewalker Cho was definitely a great idea.

Last time I listened to /hsg/ about picks I got 1 pack. Who do I pick now?

>>171277407
you mean reddit

>>171277432
No I mean "pick Thijizz he's the best"

Is it going to be the same if I now pick Pavlel?

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I voted for Neirea just because he is from my native city Poltava.

>>171277407
It doesn't matter who you pick, you'll get a pack for voting even if you don't win the vote

>>171276486
Because rogue is only allowed to play miracle. Until the op classic set doesn't allow to play miracle anymore, it's bad design for rogues to play another archetype.
It's because of all your 0 mana spells, how are the poor warriors supposed to handle all this value and tempo you'll throw at them.

>>171277192
hey i picked the same chink

is he good or some meme streamer?

>>171277407
Dr. Pavel is the luckiest son of a bitch I've ever seen
There is no skill to this clown fiesta tournament
So I'd say safe bet is Pavel

>>171277476
depends how far he gets

>>171277407
Just from track record Thijs was most likely to take it home but in hearthstone means he has like 65% winning chance instead of the 62% average winning chance. Why are so many people just illiterate with basic maths? 3% more doesn't guarantee you win.

>Nerf blade flurry because it limits design space
>dont release any rogue weapons
>probably wont release any rogue weapons un ungoro either

>>171277549
aggro rogue with no auctioneer is more popular and stronger than miracle

>go out of your way to fix brawl
>it's worse than before
Really makes you think

>>171277693
How the fuck can it be worse than before? Please explain

>>171277627
Real tricksters don't need weapons to trickster their opponents.

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>>171277627

>>171277627
>hero power nerfed, blade flurry now worthless, auctioneer nerfed, conceal gone, master of disguise nerf, lowest power minions cause 'class indentity', half an innervate, no field wipes in forever, still waiting for design space to be filled

>>171277859
>let me just ignore the broken cards in rogue
:^)

>>171277923
Such as?

>>171277834
Rogues are dead by turn 4 in this meta

>>171277627
What are u talking about you got a fork as a weapon.

>>171278023
backstab prep sap and edwin mostly

>>171278023
Eviscerate, coldblood, preparation, fan of knives. backstab, si, edwin, sap, unearthed raptor, tomb pillager, and any other card i'm forgetting that has been in rogues decks since the start of the game

>>171278023
Very strong rogue cards:
Preparation
Shadowstep
Cold blood
Eviscerate
Gang up
VanCleef
Iron Sensei
SI:7 agent
Unearthed raptor
Tinker Sharpsword's Oil
Tomb pillager
Sabotage
Assassin's blade
Shadowcaster
Vanish

>>171278157
You cant base rogue as op on these since sap is worse than hex, prep is an innervate for spells, and edwin is since hard to compare to 477. Thats like saying druid is op cause innervate and swipe

>>171277923
like

>>171278260

>Prep
rogues newer spells have all been overcosted because of it

Most of the cards you mentioned are average and as powerful as other classes tools

>Vanish
come on now dont act dumb

>>171278181
>>171278260
Wow, this is some high level memage

I hope they show something with the new elemental tribe today, they said they wanted it to be more interesting than usual tribe stuff

>>171278260
>vanish
Are you trying to be taken seriously cause you are making it pretty hard

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>>171277584
I have no idea. I've seen his name before so I just chose him based on that

>>171278401
>rogues newer spells have all been overcosted because of it
Yes, that's exactly the point, we're right now explaining why most rogue cards are bad; for example, rogue spells are bad because of prop; that's okay

>>171278354
edwin has the most highroll potential out of any minion

sap is much better than hex for tempo because it costs 0 mana, there is no comparable tempo card in the game

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>botting
>get friend request
>80g quest

>Nerf rogue because cards limit design space
>overcost spells because of prep
>this means all rogue players have to include prep, which limits the players deck design space

>>171278260
>wild

>>171278458
>board clear that can destroy minions without activating deathrattles if the set up is right
>for a lower cost than flamestrike

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>add person for quest
>never know if they want a real or fast game for the quest

>>171278181
>evis
conditional +1 dmg on the standart 2 drop burn (see frostbolt)
>coldblood
conditional +1 dmg on the standart 1 drop atk buff (see bom)
>prep
i'll give you that one, it's really good in rogue but pigeonholes them into miracle
>fok
one more mana on an arcane explosion to draw a card, compare to maelstrom portal in term of tempo. Only good because draw engines in rogue are so numerous you reach critical mass.
>backstab
conditional 1 less mana on the standart 1 drop burn
>si
I'll give you that one too
>edwin
just a big guy, prime removal target when rogue has sub par minions
>sap
excellent card, a pity most good cards have battlecries/charge because people want to do shit reliably since they can't act on the opponent's turn
>raptor
if you play it on curve it's an untagged spider tank, who cares? Abusing the value of big deathrattles is a luxury you can't reach often when the meta is this fast.
>tomb pillager
oy, vey! a tallstrider that gives a coin? That's op even for a class card!

Thoses cards are good, not op get your head out of yourr ass.

>>171278536
Yes, a powerful removal!...that gives the opponent back the card...so he can just put it down again.

>>171278536
>sap costs 0 mana
what did he mean by this?

>>171278536
>waste cards making huge edwin
>hex
Everyone knows how to deal with 477s now.

>>171278662
He means every deck includes prep, because every rogue deck NEEDS prep to be good since Blizzard are cunts

Oh god you're so in denial about your pet rogue class having cancer cards you're actually trying to argue sap is bad
LMAO

>>171278649
By paying the mana cost again.
It's basically "destroy a minion; the opponent draws a card". Drawing one card = 1.5 mana. Destroying a minion = 4 mana. Sap = 2 mana. That cost is inferior to most hero cards