/fog/ - Fallout General

fuck you leatherman

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>dad leaves the vault so I go find him
>its not clear why I go find him, though I guess I want to know why he left
>go to megaton, located 5 feet from the vault
>innkeeper and/or barkeeper tells me dad went to galaxy news radio
>go to galaxy news radio
>DJ tells me dad went to rivet city
>go to rivet city
>scientist lady tells me dad went to a vault
>go to the vault
>kill all the mutants and children there
>get what dad wanted
>only find out what dad wanted a minute before he's given the zyklon B
>very quickly realize that I'm not the main character of this game, my dad is
>then scientist lady is when dad dies, giving me orders all day
>I'm just fucking around sightseeing and doing pointless crap (or not, its totally optional) while my dad does everything of consequence
>realize this game should have just been about a vault dweller who leaves to go get a new water purifier
>realize that would have just been the first game, one thats actually well designed

>>171198494
Second for obsidian and fuck you too metal man

>>171197665
>>171198147
which game did you want the renaming tweak for? Slippy's got one for New Vegas already, but it doesn't cover everything as I don't think he'd be keen for any "author vision" names like I've done on a few which were lacking names and too generic for my taste

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Which mod is best for managing provisioners? I'm trying to optimize my supply lines and it's really annoying that I can't see who's going where so I can reassign them.

>>171198719
Now let's see, are you a boy or a girl?

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>>171198719
>people actually defend fallout 3

>>171198930
>>171198719
Nobody gives a fuck obsidianfag

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xth for finding happiness in the harsh wasteland

>>171198719
The story of FO3 would make a lot more sense if the PC was somewhere between 12 and 15 years old. That would explain why everybody treats him like a child, and why he largely behaves like one.

>>171199073
makes sense, i see lots of children carrying heavy guns and killing people

Daily reminder that FNV is the best Fallout.

>>171199073

The character is technically 18, which is pretty young.

>>171199176
that's like saying daily reminder, we breath oxygen

>>171199145
Welcome to the Capital Wasteland. Never mind that 12-15 year olds would qualify as young men for most of human history.

>>171199260
And he grew up in a rather sheltered environment. It would just be more obvious how young he is, if he actually was a bit younger.

>>171198719
>scientist lady tells me dad went to a vault
>go to the vault
>kill all the mutants and children there
you're getting Little Lamplight's connected vault and the Tranquility Lane vault mixed up

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ahahhahahahaha

>New vegas threads on /v/ are now punishable with long ass bans, also the yare considered spite and spam threads

>>171199525

That's not correct. I made one last night and it stayed up until hitting bump limit.

>looking for fallout 1 and 2 mods
>hardly any mods

I want more mods.

>>171199525
>giving a shit about /v/
maybe you should go back and stay there

>>171199598

>t. butmad nvcuck

>>171199525
>>171199578
>still using /v/
>current year
Wew.

>>171199446
reminder that he came from a vault where he didn't have any idea about how raw and savage the outside world was; he was basically domesticated and wasn't used to dangers. therefore it doesn't make sense. checkmate, mate.

>>171199583

Somehow I think modders might have a really hard time making clay models and animating them.

>>171199709
>>171199598
whats wrong with /v/? barely ever went on it

>>171199728
>implying modders couldn't use available assets
>implying modders couldn't make mods that don't even require models

>>171199880
it's just /b/ - video games

>>171199880

4chan janitors finally got fed up with the Shiite NMA, Codex NMA faggots that they decided to ban every thread on /v/ for breaking both rule 2 and 3 of /v/

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I'm starting to think that Fallout 4 would've been better if it'd just straight up copied New Vegas, as obvious as that might sound.

>keep pre-rendered intro
>replace pre-war segment with snippit in intro
>some resourceful mercs break into vault 111 and open the cryo chambers (releasing a dozen or so people)
>can't see shit because of mist, lighting and blood rushing to head
>baby crying, wife calls out for you
>mercs gun down everyone (kidnap a few no-names) and go on to loot the vault, leaving you for dead
>someone with an ulterior motive saves your life
>cue progression and plot twists without SHAAUN moments
>optional ability to go back to creature-infested vault 111 and find mutilated carcasses of your loved ones a-la dead rising brad scene

the cinematic vault exit would basically be you on your back, rising into the blinding sunlight, with your savior silhouetted against the sky
all out of breath and panicky and whatever else

theme is that you're torn from safety against your will and thrown into a world of action-packed mass fuckery

>>171198816
A-anyone?

>>171200264
>beat Hilary in hard-as-balls race
>he gets rip'd before he even helps with the heist getaway
what a cunt

What was that power armor hud floating around here a few days ago?

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>>171200093

Are you having fun larping?

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>>171200264

You're right but you should know better. Fallout 4's mission statement wasn't making the game more in-depth or interesting, it was about taking the best-selling Fallout 3 and giving it more technological fidelity and grafix.

>>171200746
>T. obsicuck

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>playing fallout 1
>give charachter high luck
>upgrade gambling with every level up
>by level 5 have tens of thousands of caps
>buy best equipment I can from the Hub
>kill deathclaw
Too easy

>kill undercover deacon
>he's fine 5 minutes later and shows up at the church

>>171201686
>your paranoia killed an innocent man

>>171201686
I don't think you can kill companions

Are there any mods that significantly improve melee/unarmed in New Vegas?

>>171201773
he's in diamond city and goodneighbor

>>171201787
mod to turn off essential people. but this raises another question. If I didn't have this mod, would the security guard/drifter be essential?

>>171201241
Experimenting with the systems and discovering this kind of cheese is a big part of what makes RPGs fun for me.

Remember: You don't have to play like this for every playthrough. Try a sneak and repair build, and tell us how "easy" it is.

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>>171201934
>good melee on the oblivion engine

I'm very sorry.

>>171202092
Even slightly altered mechanics, or new weapons that aren't shit? Please.

you cannot kill companions without commands?
i was planning to buy fo4, install a rape mod, get cait, rape her and kill her, and now u are telling me i cnanot do that without a mod or commands?

>>171200902
if all bethesda fanboys accepted this truth, it would be more peaceful over here.

>>171202373

Most people do.

>>171201991
>Try a sneak and repair build
Sneak is a bad skill in fallout 1, and repair doesn't have many uses. Seems like it would be next to impossible.

wow so i was reading the wiki for maxson...Why did they make him so flawless
>kills deathclaw
>ended BoS civil war
>bad ass
>youngest elder ever
>people worship him
>has some of Lyons resolve to help people
this is literary a caricature of a perfect man.
So i am hoping the wiki is incomplete or doesnt mention everything to avoid spoiler, but is Maxson really this perfect human or is he more human in the game (i.e. more flawed)?

btw wanting to kill the other organizations does not count as a flaw.

>>171202212
>buy fo4
>rape and kill cait
obvious bait 2/10 got me to reply

Whats the best mod to plop down a settlement wherever I feel like it?

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>you now remember Marcus owned a rubber novelty sex toy in his house

>>171203417
His blind hatred for ghouls, synths and super mutants is a flaw. Also wasn't there are a theory a thread or two back about how the BoS might have filled maxson's resume with the lone wanderer's achievements? Sounds a like a big flaw to me, assuming it's true.

Aaaaand the latest NV general got deleted. I think there's one specific Janitor who really hates NV in /v/

>>171203706

they did because the lone wanderer is deacon

>>171202176
www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/62656

I also recommend this mod that actually makes the stealth mechanics quite good: www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/51777/

>>171203776

If you don't put "New Vegas thread" in the OP it isnt deleted.

>>171203417
His flaw is he's a cuntboi

>>171203776
the LW is dead as sarah lyons

now sydney is taking care os his child

https://youtu.be/Eq9jSBcsVOk

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Is the More Perks mod for NV better played with or without the Perk Every Level mod?

I want to give the new perks a try, but I'm scared I'll become an OP god if I get twice the amount of perks in the end.

Pic Unrelated I am out of fallout picures to post

>>171203930

>implying that the uni point deathclaws wasn't a half truth and sarah and TLW weren't attacked by maxson and some outcasts instead

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>>171198494
So I'm trying to pack NV with a shitton of new/edited locations and quests and I don't really mind if it's not lore-friendly as long as I can run them with other quest/location mods via bashed/merged patch. What else should I add on top of these:
>Electro-City
>AWOP
>NVInteriors
>Someguy Series
>Saxxons Quest Collection
>Chems Alcohol Meds/CAM (DUDE WEED)
>Wasteland Loot
>NPCs Travel for flavor NPCs

>>171203976
>but I'm scared I'll become an OP god if I get twice the amount of perks in the end.

This will happen, but with the proper rebalancing mods it's no different than normal. You still get your asshole ripped open by deathclaws and cazador swarms.

>>171198827
Did bethesda just assume my gender?

>>171203976
>Perk Every Level
I just threw up a bit

>>171203706
but isnt that like 2% of the population?
Like do they make it seem as Elijah's hatred towards the NCR or Caesar's hatred towards anyone who isnt in the legion?

It's not enough to make him seem like an actual person. He seems to be a demigod, and hopefully that theory is true but there is still nothing to back that up. It s like saying the courier was once an NCR soldier.

>>171203642
There isn't one afaik.
If you look around you can find a few console commands that do the trick though.

>>171203976
Great pic
Really shows how the lore in this series is structured.

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so, /fog/, how would you improve power armor?
(aside from the obvious, like removing rng spawns)

some old suggestions:
- give each model a unique endoskeleton ("universal carrier t-45" that runs on energy cells and is less mobile, for example)
- make "pain train" a default perk, activated automatically when you enter power armor
- have the ability to acquire pre-war/pristine fusion cores that can power suits indefinitely (endgame equipment)
- make it near invulnerable to most small arms
- another tier of customization, like appliqué armor or mounted weaponry and counter efforts

hard mode, what cons would you give it to balance things out?
- bogged down on soft terrain, like swampland
- fusion core overheats if suit is used too strenuously, has to dump excess heat like sentry bots
- vulnerable against improvised weapons such as molotovs (blinds you temporarily, puts excess strain on suit)
- resourceful enemies will try to ambush you and cut open your suit while you're still inside it

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I want to make a stealth-barter-hacking character, who's flimsy but fast and cunning. Any good signature armor mods that aren't power armor?

>>171203706
>His blind hatred for ghouls, synths and super mutants is a flaw.
>hating muties
>a flaw
wew.

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>>171204265
>mfw 3 perks per level with Delay Level Up

>>171203976
if you are playing properly (without mix/maxing stats) then you might ran out of useful perks and get the shitty onces instead. I was doing my cowboy run and i got all the gun perks pretty early but i didnt have enough points for other cool stuff so i am left with shitty perks that i may barely use. You can always get the companion perks if you rarely use companions and would only be useful with them.

Also i suggest getting the delayed Level up if you plan to use it on companions.

>>171204212
If you don't have anything that will modify the towns that much, I suggest you to look into the "Reborn" series, like Primm Reborn http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/50664/?

It consists of really minor changes for towns like Primm and Novac, but noticeable enough to make the towns better. It's compatible with electro-city, too.

>>171204045

But Maxon loved sarah anon, he wanted to fug her when he was grown

>>171203448
all druggies need to be purged

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Don't talk to me or my President ever again.

>>171204786

I bet that it would change if he found out she was a synth

>>171204786
I bet he smelled the inside of her power armor

>>171201787
you can kill danse x6 and deacon if they are not your companions at that moment. the rest you have to get them to hate you before their essential status is off with the exception of preston nick for the main quest and curie for some reason who are permanently essential.
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>>171202373
I will conceive that NV is the better RPG but your delusional if you think 4 is just 3 with better graphics. the writing, game choice and character depth is far superior in 4 than it is in 3.

>>171204429

- Force you to do irreversible changes to your armor to make them more niche, to encourage having more frames than your favourite one and to allow actual customisation
- Are EMPs still a thing in fallout 4? I remember they fucked Power Armor back in NV/3. In any case, make EMPs more prominent, to the point where power armor may not be convenient in some places
-Each different model has its pros and cons. Make the older models consume less power and make you go faster, make the new models more energy weapons based.

Maxson always came across as a liar trying to inflate his own reputation and ego. The 'killed a deathclaw when he was a kid' thing HAS to be fake.

I always got bored of the main quest around the point you actually get into the Institute. Is there a way to get a BoS ending but kill Maxson too?

>>171205243
>The 'killed a deathclaw when he was a kid' thing HAS to be fake.
why? He'd just get knocked out and then plop back up again if he's a kid in Bethland

>>171205049
>conceive

"Concede" you infant

>>171202613
That's the point.

>>171203797
That first mod looks great, thank you. As for that second mod, is that better than PN stealth?

>>171203417
>>171204297
Maxson in Fo4 is King Arthur, quite literally.
The comparison is obvious when you look at his story, but this can be seen in game and is reflected in his BoS.

The BoS treat themselves like royalty and the Commonwealth people like peasants. Like Teagan's quest where you literally raid people's food, or when you do the Minutemen ending and Quinlan says something like "using the Commonwealth people in order to spare Brotherhood troops was a genius move".

>>171204491
>>171203706
We don't actually know, but they are a small percentage of the population, yes. Still, they're just discriminating against more people for no reason. Why make enemies out of sentient ghouls? Literally no reason.

>>171205243
There is a mod where you can get Danse to officially challenge Maxson and become Elder. Either him or you can fight him iirc.

>>171205584
>The BoS treat themselves like royalty and the Commonwealth people like peasants. Like Teagan's quest where you literally raid people's food, or when you do the Minutemen ending and Quinlan says something like "using the Commonwealth people in order to spare Brotherhood troops was a genius move".

to be fair, they've always been bastards like that.
also, >minutemen ending?
i didn't even know that was a thing

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REEEEEEEEEEE

But seriously i cant sign up to nexus now, is there a way to get around this?

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>>171203673
And ?

>tfw suspicious lack of Marcus rule 34 giant penis drawings and him fucking Chosen one


Pic related - Bethdrones and their retardation

>>171205984

a daily reminder that obsicucking is now punishable by ban

>>171205571
Yes. This is purely focused on stealth. PN stealth is an afterthought in comparison.

With Cover Based Stealth Mechanics, two noticeable differences are that line of sight has a much larger effect on detection and you no longer need to crouch to sneak. The result is that sneaking is as the name of the mod implies, more cover based. Sneaking feels realistic with it, and Sneak skill and Silent Running still factor when sneaking past an enemy that doesn't have you in their LOS.

>>171206126

Daily reminder Bethesdafags are so reviled there's 20+ images pointing out how stupid they are, since as early as Fallout 3's release.

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>>171204746
Not yet but I'm looking into those now, thanks.

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>The 'killed a deathclaw when he was a kid' thing HAS to be fake.

I mean, if a Lawyer who has just woken up from 200 years of cryo can kill a deathclaw with weaponry she never used before, I don't see how a trained kid couldn't, specially if 15 y/o counts as "kid".

>I always got bored of the main quest around the point you actually get into the Institute.

Same, honestly. The mystery of the institute gets destroyed and your actions have NO IMPACT in the story, which means that a save at the right time can make you see all the endings in one evening. I just say do the Brotherhood ending and kill him after the ending.

>>171206250

>t. assblasted Nmafaggot/Codexfag/obsicuck banned from /v/

>>171205728
>minutemen ending?
you blow the Institute up still, but you can evacuate it first

>>171206250
>>171205984

This is why I despise the Skyrimisation of fallout 4. I swear the split between NVfags and Fo4 kids is bigger than any of the TES fanbases.

71206254
Did you mean to quote >>171205243 ?

>>171204840
>t. pipercuck
>>171205728
the minutemen ending is the best ending
>>171205584
>>171204491
>>171204297
A small percentage of population sure, doesn't make wanting them all dead not a flaw. Strong, non ferals and non hostile synths are a even smaller percent but have not done anything to warrant death. I also just want to say I dislike maxson and I blow him out of the sky with every playthrough I can.

>>171206254
Nora was originally intended to also have been conscripted, makes a lot more sense, desu.

>>171206498
Makes sense. Bethesda doesn't care about Fallout and writes whatever the fuck and treats TES as its precious baby. Not to mention people actually like Fallout, but few people actually cared about TES before Skyrim. Even still people don't seem to care enough about TES to read the in-game books and find out the Stormcloaks were part of the Thalmor's plans.

>>171206159
>and Sneak skill and Silent Running still factor when sneaking past an enemy that doesn't have you in their LOS

From mod page
>Unlike vanilla FNV, "running" does not impart a penalty when crouched. This means that all players start the game as if they had the Silent Running perk, so you never have to hold down the Shift key when sneaking

So the silent running perk is redundant. That seems a bit overpowered.

>>171207078

>t. obsicuck assblasted autism

post more cait

>>171206254
Except Nora is protected by power armor and using a weapon she took off of a vertibird, giving her a advantage maxson didn't have.

Did Maxson fight off the deathclaw entirely alone? He might have just finished it. Or maybe he was already 16 and outfitted with power armor.

Fallout would be a good fit for destructible scenery

patching up your shacks after a raider attack would be dope

there was that NV mod which did it on a v. small scale (fences and the like instead of blowing holes in buildings), so I've hope for the future

>>171208189
There are a small amount of destructible stuff. Sometimes in locations with raiders there will be those shitty looking wood rails and they fall apart when I shoot them, it's practically nothing though.

Why does the early game of FO4 force Piper on you so much? She doesn't do anything useful for you, Nick, or the story at all..

>R91 on Diamond City gunshop sign
>no R91 in the game
awful

>>171207078
fallout 4 had good writing in some areas and the main quest was original enough unlike 3 which kind of combined the first 2 and added a lost family member part to it.

>>171208975
technically your mum and cousin get abducted in Fallout 2, but you're right in what you're saying, mostly

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>>171198494
NVfags, is this the latest version of The Armory from Happy Happy Gecko? http://www.mediafire.com/file/648bgar4cbnkbgj/The.Armory.v2.5.fomod

Pic related

>>171208542
for E3 and first impressions

Quick question about supply lines, are they one way?

Like if i set a line from red rocket to Sanctuary, I'd be able to access my RR mats in Sanct, but not Sanct mats in RR?

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>>171206126
>>171206408
Bugfestacucks on suicide watch

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>>171209320
they're two way. settlements can also be linked by linking them both to a third settlement.

>>171208542
They invested a lot of time into Pipers animations, and want to make absolutely sure that everybody sees them. It's just one more thing in FO4 that was made for the sake of reviewers and to the detriment of people who actually play the game.

why is every thread 3/4 vs nv.

all of you are shitposters.

just enjoy your preferred game. you're like high school girls bickering.

>>171209579
You mean that one time she waves her arms to someone who can't see it?

>>171209476
Well then something in my mods must have fucked up provisioners because they aren't supplying at all.

I sent a guy from Sanct to RR and nothing is being shared despite him becoming a provisioner.

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Is there any body female body mod for F4 with abs and actual muscles ( beside CBBE Hardbody ) ??
Preferably with huge collection of bikinis./swimwear/slutty clothes compatibile with it...

>>171209579
This.
Its amazing how awesome Piper animation is in the opening conversation with her.

>>171209476
Why would you set up your supply lines like that?

>>171202373
If Obsidrones acknowledged that NV was just as bad as 3 we'd all be a lot happier

>>171209707
Compare it to the rest of the dialogue animations in the game, or in Beth's previous games.

>>171209579
cait and curie were more likable and interesting female companions then piper. they had more interesting dialogue as well but its easy to miss them in a first play through while piper is unavoidable

>>171208542
Piper is worst girl

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>>171209838
The drive-in is a big trading hub. There are lots of stores there, and caravan stations, and a big building for traders to meet up in and do business.

I re-made them all to more spread out and not so inefficient more recently, but kept the trading hub at the drive-in.

>>171209365
There's so many things wrong with that image I don't know where to start

>>171210162
And all the other companions, except maybe for Automatrons you build yourself, have more interesting stories than her. But stories don't show in screenshots or trailers, and it requires more time to discover these stories than the average reviewer is willing to spend on a single game.

>>171209645
I want to be a high school girl

>>171209645
Their general failing just made them even more butthurt when they came back.

Are there any good anime or waifu mods?

>>171210797
I don't. Only about 1/10 high school girls have anything meaningful knocking around in their skulls.

In fairness, the statistic isn't much better for high school boys, but in any case, it would not be fun to drop a huge chunk of IQ just to be the little girl.

>>171211045
there is no "they" anon. We should all just be having a good time and talking about fallout videogames. This whole idea that it's us vs them is silly. You're caught up in it and are on the inside so you don't see how dumb it is.

Is there a mod, or are there mods mods, that make hunting in New Vegas or 3 an enjoyable, profitable experience? Like adding pelts/hides to mole rats, giant rats, deathclaws, brahmin, bighorners and so on, increasing the value of such things, adding a purpose for them, or hand-placing new creatures around the place rather than changing leveled lists so you don't have wolves hanging out with coyotes?

>>171208670
A mod fixes it. It's pretty good, too.

>>171211237
There clearly is a "they" considering the shitposting went way down when their general existed.

>>171211237
But there is a "they", a rather blatant one at that. Compare the posts of regulars and /v/ invaders and tell me something isn't off in post quality and tone.

>>171211402
The problem being that their general claimed the older Fallouts, which are quite enjoyed here. If they want to make a New Vegas general I say go for it.

>>171209365
I don't want to seem like a... whatever the fuck you guys call a "devoted follower" of Bethesda but this image irks me the wrong way but only the "with more nonsensical bullshit" part.

It's like whoever made this has never heard of a video game before. Yes, a lot of the shit in there is very stupid, I agree. But for some of that shit? It's a goddamn video game. This shit isn't supposed to be realistic in the slightest. It's a fucking science-fiction post-apocalypse video game with a raging hard-on for 50s culture.

If a video game was actually realistic in any way, shape or form, it would be impossibly difficult, boring/tedious or all of the above. We play video games to escape reality, not to try and cling to it as close as possible.

>>171211237
>turning into a girl will make you dumb
Anyway half the point of TF fetishism is personality retention, unless brainwashing is part of the package as it sometimes is.

>>171211802
Those images were debunked ages ago, anon. I don't even know why they're bothering to re-post them in 2017.

>>171212023
>debunked
>debunking facts

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Okay, asked this last thread but it didn't get anywhere because it wasn't a shitpost, does anyone know how to specifically change the aim model degree cone max and min to reduce accuracy and increase it, and does anyone know how it can be tied to a perk?

Does it work by having the two numbers far apart, really high or really low? I've got recoil down but I'm looking to save myself a bunch of trial and error.

Also I'm looking for ideas for replacements for certain perks, specifically
Rooted (S)
Night Person (P)
Refractor (P)
Ghoulish (E)
Solar Powered (E)
Nerd Rage (I)
Moving Target (A)

Ideally the ideas would be linked to the special stat of the perk but if you've got something that's interesting just throw it out there

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LNHYz89sNc

There will come soft rains and the smell of the ground,
And swallows circling with their shimmering sound;

And frogs in the pool singing at night,
And wild plum trees in tremulous white;

Robins will wear their feathery fire,
Whistling their whims on a low fence-wire;

And not one will know of war, not one
Will care at last when it is done.

Not one would mind, neither bird nor tree,
If mankind perished utterly;

And even Spring herself when she woke at dawn
Would scarcely know that we were gone.

>>171211964
Speaking specifically of high school girls, yes most of them I meet are very empty headed (and I work with that age of people). when I was that age I remember quite a few dummies as well.

>>171212094
You stick out like a sore thumb, /v/.

>>171209579
It's been said before, but Bethesda are masters of front loading their games. You only need to make the first dozen hours interesting because that's all reviewers are going to play.

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>chilling in the lucky 38, waiting for ED-E to be done with the followers
>this asshole somehow got in

>>171209236
thanks for the share

Fallout 4 = Fallout poor

>>171212880
epic lulz, my man
>>171212653
House is already planning your demise and replacement

One of the things the Fallout 4 did that annoyed me that both Fallout 3 and New Vegas got right in my opinion was how they structured locations. Locations felt like they were real places, you explored an office building, a sewer, a subway and it didn't feel like it was designed architecturally for a video game, there might have been rubble that closed parts off or made it somewhat artificial but the buildings themselves felt like real buildings and when you were done exploring them you walked all the way out.

In F4 you go through them and they're built like dungeons in a video game, which they are, but that robs them of their immersive qualities. You go through and the building feels like it was made for a game rather than for whatever 'real world' purpose it had and in the end you fight a 'boss' enemy (often just a higher level one) and then get a loot chest, it doesn't feel like a world it feels like a game.

In the end there's a button to press, elevator to take or secret door to open that takes you right back to the beginning, no long backtracking or anything you've got other dungeons to complete. I friend of mine complained about Skyrim I think, might have been Fallout 3, but he complained about having to backtrack after he'd completed it, which can be annoying in some of the massive dungeon of Skyrim sure, but I can't help but feel they took this complaint into account with Fallout where it wasn't as much of a problem and made the world worse to accommodate that kind of player.

>>171212653
Ranger Grant goes where Ranger Grant pleases

Good afternoon /fog/

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>>171212681
No problem. It's a good alternative/companion to WotNM and SpamPTRS' packs and it's a shame the original page with info on it is gone

>>171205049
>your delusional if you think 4 is just 3 with better graphics. the writing, game choice and character depth is far superior in 4 than it is in 3
thats really nothing to be proud off

>>171209365
Most of the issues with 3 are due to its almost schizophrenic nature. Bethesda must have gone for some time making a serious Fallout game, before concluding the fans might not like a serious one, so they added some rushed, half-assed wacky stuff like the nuke being the center of Megaton. Some of the areas retain this atmosphere, but they're all marred by the later, poorly implemented Fallout 2-style stuff. Some have said that Fallout 3 was to be set shortly after the bombs had dropped, but this was changed, and I can see why they say that.

>>171214754
It's funnier when you remember how blasted FO2 was for being too wacky.
I like to think FO3 is more of a spiritual successor to FO1 than a sequel to FO2. But that's just me.

>>171214523
Suck our collective dicks nerd

>>171209909
thats a lie and you know it, and i dont even play nv that much. please stop spreading cancer

>>171215137
Your typing style betrays you, /v/ermin.

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>>171209909
I think both games have their flaws and their good points, which is why I think TTW is a good fit.

I personally don't use it because I'd rather play as a variety of characters in the Mojave to see that game towards its conclusion than just one vault-dweller turned Courier with all the extra time investment that comes as a result of combining both games, but I appreciated the one playthrough I did of TTW because it allowed me to enjoy both games immediately, side by side, with the same character.

I never felt I could appreciate Fallout 3 so much as when I was able to play it alongside NV in such a fashion, but sadly I feel that it lacks for a lot of the replayability due to how limited the results for ones actions can sometimes seem, though I will note that as a post-apocalyptic "playground" it was far superior in that exploration was generally more fun and there felt like there was more to -see-.

In short Fallout 3 is like a really fun vacation with some fond memories, but New Vegas is where I feel like my characters can truly -live-.

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FO4 is not a beautiful game. But it does manage to look pretty, once and again.

>>171215137
>done playing NV after finishing yes man, house, ncr ending
>dont wanna do legion
>decide to to ttw
>cant install fo3 because i had to do some preliminary stuff firts
>cool this start is very immersive and unique i think i am gonna like the game
>exit the vault
>mission: find dad
>fuck that i am gonna do it like NV, wander around.
>Nothing makes sense if i dont do main quest
>i get attacked out of nowhere
>get fatman on the first minutes
>wtf i had to go through sweat and tears to get this weapon
>meet the BoS, they are the knights of justice
>wtf , werent they technology hoarders. wtf is this shit
>they are the good guys
>cant really kill them
>radio guy sends me to the mall
>have to spend 60 bulles
>because i had jsawyer and survival on and the patch is not balanced for FO3
>have assasins out of nowhere and get killed instantly because i have no ammo
>go back to previous saves but they still comeback at that point
>no ammo, because i though i could make the game harder but ammo is necessary for all the sponge bullets
>quit
>do legion run
>have fun.
I cant play fo3 i am spoiled with freedom

Why do you faggots dislike Fallout 3 and NV so much?

>>171212270
You're not wrong, but then I knew a lot of really dumb guys as well.

That I constantly seem to meet empty-headed dudes at my (somewhat advanced) age is demoralizing, then I realize I pretty much just think both sexes are garbage.

Which is why I'm pretty much alright with fucking both.

>>171215275
are you here every hour m8?

>>171215672
Yeah I think dirty fishtanks are really pretty to look at too, Anon.

>>171215694
But that's all wrong, you shitbrain.

>>171216114
Nah. it s pretty correct

thats my experience

if i wanna put the same diffculty as my nv playthrough it is impossible to have fun

>>171215060
But, as stated, the serious Fallout 1-esque tones are marred by the Fallout 2 stuff. I wonder what a serious Fallout 3 would be like, one set in the supposedly originally intended timeframe just after the war. There might be more Vault 87 stuff. Vault 108 wouldn't be played as a joke. The metro tunnels would be terrifying. The Enclave-Brotherhood story "wouldn't" be Enclave vs. Brotherhood, but rather a divisive conflict between two US remnants in the period after the bombs fell. The whole thing would make more sense. It'd be better, story and setting wise than New Vegas if Bethesda stuck to it.

>>171214658
its a noticeable improvement that makes it a lot more enjoyable then just another 3 clone. its fine if you like NV more but don't pretend that fallout 4 is some action non RPG with no depth or interesting plot, its improvements over 3 and NV are more then just graphics gameplay and voice acting.

>>171216114
hes not wrong my man, after playing nv, f3 just feels linear and unrealistic with all the un-kill-able npcs. In nv everybody can be killed, the only one who cant be is yes man and even then its explained that he's a robot and its memory is transferred to another body etc.

also just to add cos i just remembered this, why the fuck cant charon or strong pull the switch on the purifier in f3? They literally cant die yet say some bullshit about "this being your destiny". f3 lacks choice in comparison to nv. although i do think its a good introduction game to rpgs (it was my first). f4 is trash tho, if i picked up fallout for the gun fights then id just buy a better fps. fallout its about its rpg moral choices

>>171219485
They can die, but they're immune to radiations. They can do it in Broken Steel...

Can you join the BoS in Fallout 3?

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>>171209579
>>171209824

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>>171220149

So /fog/, I will be able to play properly for the first time because I finally have a computer that should be able to handle Fallout 4.
Is a 10 Luck, 7 Perception, 7 Agility VATs focused build viable early on in Easy mode?

>>171220787
These trolls are getting meta, these days.There's layers to this one, I like it.

>>171209579
>>171208542
>not wanting a moralfag waifu

>>171221368
Curie is better.

there's not enough good slutwear on the nexus let alone normal clothing what the fuck

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>>171221669
>slutwear
>good
>normal clothing
>good

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>being a waifufag at all
the girls in 4 are shit

>>171220982
That is because it is only half-bait.

>>171222174
do you run around naked you maniac?

>>171222197
You're shit

>>171222537
you're waifu a shit

>>171219774
after a fucking dlc patch, bethesda knew they fucked up and changed the ending, with dlc or not, the option should be there to choose the outcome. thats like saying you can only get the legion ending in nv if you get dlc, fuck off with that argument

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What's the perfect settlement location? I'm trying to find a good place that isn't vault 88.

I need to begin rolling theses out to begin trade.

>>171224527
Starlight has lots of space for your bots to roll around, but it's a bit far north.

Hangman's Alley is right in the center of the map, but the doors are too narrow for your bots.

Have a look at Grey Garden and Oberland Station. They are both relatively central and easy to access with Sentry legs.

>>171224201

remember that NV also had post game content but they said fuck it and forgot to make it, only to focus on "MUH BULL" story line on the 4 fucking DLC's and GRA ASSenal

>>171225473
hangman's alley open buildings mod, it should had been a day 1 vanilla addiction but they dun goofed

>>171224527
Why would you use large robots like that? Smaller ones would be more space efficient.

>>171212231
Still looking for some help here, even if you don't know about the creation kit any replacements for the perks would be great.

I'm looking for grounded and realistic stuff that would come from greater skill in something like the rifleman perk increasing accuracy with rifles rather than magically increasing damage.

If there's something you think is missing in the game that could feasibly be added in to replace a perk throw it out there.

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>>171214572
>>171209236
in return for said share, my good man, here's the (relatively new) Mojave Terror pack from GUN, there's 167 firearms all in all and they're (mostly) integrated into level lists, too

http://www.mediafire.com/file/uv465fvh64efc7w

>>171207128
>Silent Running perk is functionally useful again in that it allows the PC to dash quietly while wearing heavier equipment.
It isn't redundant.

Is FO4's survival mode worth playing at all?

>>171227730
holy shit yes. i loved nv but f4 was nothing like it. however survival mode is really good, it replaces the rpg elements and feels like an actual game. however prepare to die a lot. you can only save when you sleep and you cant fast travel so its a headache at first but get easier as you level up

pro tip: you will hate molotov cocktails on level 1

Anyone have some good melee weapon mods for NV that aren't broken?

>>171227730
Yes, with this mod to let you save at regular intervals.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/14650/?
The game is so fucking crashy and unstable that you'd be insane to play without it.

>>171228313
I hear enemies with too much health are still an issue with it.

>>171228560
I used Survival Options to increase the damage multipliers further, but a lot more for enemies than the PC. Gunfights are now over in about a fifth of the time.

>>171228560
It seems more or less okay in my experience. I'm sitting at level 84 and things still tend to drop when they're shot at.

>>171224527
coastal cottage is large and somewhat flat

>>171229014
Sure you're not thinking of Nordhagen Beach? Isn't Coastal Cottage the one with no flat land and a giant hole in one of its two small buildings

>>171209579

Maxson has better animations and you don't even get to see them until close to the end of the game. He goes full Hitler with his hand gestures when he is talking with you and Danse.

>>171200278
I always make robots my provisioners, and name them after their route. The Sentry Bot legs have an upgrade that adds a winch to the rear leg, and you can combine that with some other utilitarian upgrades to make them feel less like death machines and more like construction equipment.

Do I really need to reactive all my mods under the mod menu ingame for FO4 on every launch?
Am I retarded?

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>>171230498
I don't know what you're talking about.

>>171229730
you can just build over it

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have you stuck your hands inside of any feral ghoul flesh pockets today?

Is this a solution for not being good at building shit?
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/21872/?

>>171233017
Yes, absolutely.

>>171225692
>forgot
They didn't have enough time to finish four proper post-end Mojave, more like.

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>>171203706
>His blind hatred for ghouls, synths and super mutants is a flaw.

why the fuck did bethesda think letting you build in croup manor was a good idea. place is shit.

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>>171226128
Much appreciated. I actually tried installing this before (if this is the same one in the public releases section) but my game crashes at the main menu for some reason.

I notice it shares an .esp with Hitman's 1st person animation overhaul (Reload Sounds.esp), and I think it's related to that. Should I just uncheck Hitman's mod in MO when I use this?

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>a literal glass ceiling

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w-what is he doing

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>>171235848
You gon get NTR'd

>>171235848

I hired him to fix your shit taste

Enjoy your new waifu, he likes backrubs and avocados

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Is it possible to run TTW in native 4K? I just made my first build and I've never played TTW, so I'm curious.

Is it just as simple as an .ini tweak?

>>171236785

Yes, the game is old enough to fuck at this point.

>>171237064
Only in the Middle East.

Is DUST for New Vegas any good? I have a shit ton of mods so I also don't want them to somehow conflict, mostly in regards to barriers and whatever.

>>171237759
It's alright. AlChestbreach has a decent playthrough.

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>>171236785
It's as easy as enabling DSR and then setting the resolution to 4k in the game's launcher.

>>171229997
Can you please post a screen of your said sentry bot(s)

>>171198494
Fallout 4 is disappointing in a way that hurts. I've played shitty games before, but I wanted it to be good so bad, I wanted to have complete features and be full of fun...I'm so sad.

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Curie wants to be human...But i want to keep her pink and floaty

>>171240229
~
SetStage COMCurieQuest 600

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Can someone help me out? I changed my Fallout 4 FOV by adding the prescribed lines to the 3 text files that are always mentioned in these things. Then I loaded a normal save and I could see the changes. Then I loaded my survival save and it just won't take.

>>171239832
i know anon i feel you

>>171221437
This. Curie is best waifu in the game.

I want to like Piper but I just feel like the game forces her on you too much, especially with the devs making her look like a suspiciously similar substitute of default Nora

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>>171229997
How do you keep their names from reverting to default? it happens to me every single fucking time. I don't even bother naming them anymore.

>>171240621
nah curie is crap, cait a best

>>171227730
I like the fact that you need food, water, and sleep regularly but I wish there was a way to add that to lower difficulties without mods. I tried survival mode last Spring and it totally killed my desire to play FO4 till this past week. I was expecting S.T.A.L.K.E.R. levels of difficulty but it's too much for me.

>>171240401
With this i'll be able to keep her like that?

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>>171240229
>>171240905
>not wanting to sleep with a flesh and blood Curie

>>171240905
Yes, it'll let you keep her a robutt and be able to get her perk/romance. Use it after the affinity talk about the doctor.

>>171227730
I found it quite fun.. once i got to like level 60 though it lost its charm, shit was too easy. Not like the early game where i had to fight the deathclaw in concord 5 times because i kept dying. Then i found some buffjet in one of the chem boxes in one of the houses in town.
Avoid molotovs.. i cant tell you how many times the throwing arch perk lied and i threw molotovs in my face.

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>>171241132
>not wanting to clank an assaultron Curie

>>171241132
>ruining the only interesting romanceable character by making her a boring fleshy
kys fag

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Was Ulysses just straight up lying about how prosperous the Divide was before the disaster there? There's no environmental signs of significant post-war habitation, and in fact a lot of signs that it was unsuitable for habitation. NCR reports from before the bombs went off stated that the terrain was hellish and there was significant radiation. There are pre-war journals and logs that outright state that there were already earthquakes and infrastructure decay before the bombs, let alone after 200 years of neglect.

The Divide was just a place where a local tribe or small community lived that Ulysses tried to make his new home in. The NCR and Legion fought there, but there were no significant attempts at settlement besides a very small community.

>>171240903
The problem is that STALKER at higher difficulties has everyone become a glass cannon.

In F4 the enemies become literal bullet sponges and tons of legendary enemies spawn much more often. Which also kills the game quickly from all the special weapons you get.

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>>171241132
I only ever romance Maccutie. One time Danse.
I will admit cait looks great in the nuka girl costume though.

>>171241217
Fisto turned me off of that kind of robophilia. Nothing wrong with banging synths, though.

Does any oldfag have the "roll a FO3 character" chart? I have the NV one, but I'm trying out TTW

>>171240692

Apparently it's a bug that happens if you name them before doing the Kellog brain story quest. So, don't get robots until after you go inside his brain.

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>>171242403
>Nothing wrong with banging synths, though.
That's the spirit, ad victoriam!

>>171243000
Mind posting the NV one? I really need something to do.

When exactly are you supposed to use power armor in FO4? With the constant timer, I never, ever use it unless I give myself a million fusion cores.

>>171243318
Dude, Fusion cores are so plentiful you don't have to worry about that. Shit, I've been finding them on random dead settlers.

>>171242403
>not being the android

>>171243469
Is there a mod that lets you play as a synth? Not the fleshy ones.

It'd be nice if I could also play as a female assaultron with that sassy robot voice.

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>>171243180
Sure thing, broski.

>>171244051
Thanks, m8.

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>>171241217
This anon knows what's up

Are there ANY decent Legion overhaul mods?

>>171245434
no
>no quality retextures
>all the armor mods are overkill or shitty reworks of vanilla armors
>or out of place ports from games with higher poly counts

>>171241340
I think Ulysses really romanticized it more than anything, but it did sound like a budding little trade hub on a major California-Mojave trade route. Wasn't anything special, but did atleast have a lot of Mojave Express courier traffic (and the attention of it by both NCR and Legion meant the route was important).

>>171246163
I just want mods to make a Legion playthrough tolerable, but I haven't found anything.

>>171246418
The Ranger report you can find outright says it's not a suitable route for bringing supplies to the Dam. The battle was more because both forces were present and neither could retreat effectively than because it was an important route.

>>171241712
>I will admit cait looks great in the nuka girl costume though.
time to buy nuka world
>>171240621
Cait > Curie >>> Piper

>>171247032
You'll find nothing then anon. Why? Some people will say that the game was to have all sorts of content to flesh the Legion out and show how morally grey they are, but the only thing they wanted to do with the Legion that they didn't was add a couple Legion-operated towns across the river. The Legion are intended to be the morally black slaver dickbags, while the other three choices are meant to be morally superior, but all grey.

>>171247498
>You'll find nothing
Then how am I supposed to do my melee/unarmed idiotic tribal villain playthrough? The legion is the perfect faction for that, but they're shit.

>>171247696
Don't finish the game I guess? Set a goal, what does your spear throwing cannibal really want in life?

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Just downloaded Fallout 3. Can someone tell me why there is no exe. file for it? The only way to start the game is through the "Fallout 3 settings" file and I need to have an exe. to install the script extender. I'd really appreciate anybodies help.

>>171248283
He wants to crush and enslave his enemies and bring chaos and destruction to the Mojave, and especially to the Strip and NCR

Although I might do another mad scientist run. Those are pretty fun.

>>171244051
Rollin' :3

@171248506
Have you tried deleting it and redownloading it?

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>>171248506
Are you genuinely fucking retarded? Look at every file in that folder and think about what you might need to do.

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>>171248506
>.bin
you have to install it first
its supposed to be BSA files
also
>windows 10
J U S T

>>171248558
Then do just that. There might be a mod out there that lets you recruit mercenaries or something, but you could, if you have the knowhow, create your own custom army of guys to follow you around. It shouldn't be too hard, right?

>>171248657
I like Rex, being a highroller and I like allying with House but can I reroll for a new place to live because i've lived in the lucky 38 like everytime i've played the game

>>171244051
Will roll, but won't actually do it

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>>171248506
Is that the fucking Autism Speaks puzzle on the taskbar?
>mfw

>>171248787
Don't spoonfeed him, man. Just because he can't be fucked to read the names of the files in the folder doesn't mean he should come here.

>>171248736
The file folder is for the script extender I downloaded. There's no exe. to be found man

>>171248787
It's a fairly new computer and I need it updated for al

>>171248950
>>171248787
>>171248736
>seriously responding unironically to a metatroll
literally kys

>>171248950
its not like hes gonna be able to run it, since its Win10

>>171249043
alot of the things I download

>>171248950
Everyone has to start somewhere. No need to be cynical because you've been modding longer than someone else

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>>171240550
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/102/

if that doesn't work, add this line under General in your Fallout4.ini in My Documents\My Games\Fallout 4:

sStartingConsoleCommand=fov 90 90

you'll need a survival mode console enabler mod for it to take effect.

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>all these Caitfags

>>171205049
But the world design, side quests and set pieces outside of the main quest are vastly worse then 3.

>>171249458
This is true. I bet the lack thereof was the biggest reason behind settlements.

>>171215060
Nope. It was an unholy cocktail mixture of both games.
>You have to find the water chip!
>The Enclave wants to kill everyone!

>>171249112
Why can't windows 10 run it? i've played the vanilla game a little bit and it seems to be running fine. I'm sorry, i'm fairly new to modding and playing on PC and I was just looking for some advice

>>171219003
>Vault 108
It wasn't initially intended to be a joke. It was literally a case of the dev team running out of time and shoving something in their as sjouke that literally made no sense.

>>171249269
Nigga he didn't even install the game

>>171219003
The setting and story they ended up with were fine

>>171247498
They actually did intend to make them morally grey. They just failed.

>>171229815
That scene was fucking amazing. Imagine if the whole game had that level of drama and thought put into the dialogue and story. Fuck, it makes me sad

>>171250036
It's kinda hard to do that when their whole method of doing things is enslaving or killing everyone that doesn't bow down to Caesar.

>>171249524
I think that was more just seeing the wild success of Minecraft and applying it wrongly 5 years later.

>>171249112
Works on my machine :^)

>>171249962
Yes I did. I'm able to play it through that settings folder.

>>171250036
Why do things always need to be morally gray?

>>171250320
After I installed that's all that popped up in my Fallout 3 folder. Should I uninstall it and try again?>>171250403

>>171250403
They don't. Everyone on here just loves complaining about literally every aspect of the franchise.
They make a decision on their own: "Fuck them"
They make a decision by going with something that black isle originally did: "Fuck them"

There's no pleasing this shitty fanbase. they're all assholes who have no idea how hard making videogames is

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beep boop time for nukaworld.

Does anyone know why settlements will just freeze?

Symptoms include:
You can't assign resources, create routes or even attract new settlers.

I read online that this was caused by the unofficial fallout 4 patch, is there anything to do other than not using said patch?

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>You and your wasteland waifu of choice have a child together
>Do you

>Stay with the child and your waifu; Settle down
>Continue adventuring while your waifu stays at home with the kid
>Let Codsworth take care of the child while you and your waifu do whatever

http://www.strawpoll.me/12546644

>>171251092
>unofficial fallout 4 patch
yeah you should just stay away from those for a while until they stop adding official micro updates

In New Vegas, how can I reduce my skill points on level up from 10+(INT/2) to 5+(INT/2)?

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>>171251092
The unofficial patch is doing a bit more damage than it fixes right now. I'm still using the initial release and it's going alright.

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about 70% done
just need to finish wiring and furnishing

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>>171251227

Letting Codsworth near my baby doesn't seem like a safe idea. He could give him tetanus from all the rust on his body.

And a Modded Codsworth could give him DEATH.

>>171251668
Project Nevada

>>171250654
> people attack fallout 3 and 4 for its bad writing
> cannot construct proper criticism
> instead use feelings as a basis of their arguments

It's hard to intake anything from this site when people have no idea what they're talking about and are merely parroting each other

As much as I hate this word but there's a lot of virtue signalling when it comes to criticizing games

>>171251668
There might be a rebalance mod that covers that. PN Extra options maybe, or JSUE. But I'm not exactly sure.

>>171251949
what mod?

>>171249828
The idea of an isolated shelter filled with crazed defective clones with sub-50 IQs could be pulled off relatively well. It could have been Vault 87: Body Horror edition.
>>171249991
Not really. I like the ruins of DC, I like the areas they didn't change to be wacky, and I enjoy the amount of dread you get when sneaking around some mutants, but the fact that it's obviously not what was originally intended, and the inclusion of the wackier elements from Fallout 2 makes it for nothing. It would have been better if they kept what I feel their original intentions were, a Post-Nuclear Survival RPG set right after the war. The closest thing we have to it is Frost for Fallout 4.
>>171250036
http://archive.is/nsOIu

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>>171252180
>What mod

Huh? That's a vanilla Automatron bot

>>171252096
>As much as I hate this word but there's a lot of virtue signalling
Virtue signaller detected

>>171252393
WUT

unique robot, how?

>>171252096
I actually liked Fallout 3 and New Vegas almost equally. And I still play Fallout 4 with Frost

What wackiness are you talking about? Any wackiness I encountered in that game had dark underlying themes surrounding it. For example, at face value, The Mechanist and the Antagonizer were zany and wacky but when you really get around to finding out about them you find out they both went crazy from traumatic events they had to endure in their lives. The Mechanists being his favorite robot that he hand built being destroyed and The Antagonists family being killed by giant ants. People need to give Fallout 3's storytelling a chance instead of just going by word of mouth. I mean shit it's not going to be perfect it was made in 2008 for gods sakes. It was pretty epic in its time and I still like it alot

>>171251997
>Project Nevada

>>171252123
>PN Extra options

Found the option. Thanks.

>>171252185
>>171253197
Meant to link you

>Fallout 2
>Wacky

When will this meme end?

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>>171252703

Automatron DLC

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>>171253548
When people stop taking obvious bait.

>>171251227
I'd probably settle down with the occasional adventuring. Have to bring home the brahmin meat somehow, you know. Maybe get a nice place in the Upper Stands or just stay in Sanctuary Hills. The latter would probably be a small city if not a large town by that point so it wouldn't cease to be boring.

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In what way are these things as big a threat as Ulysses seems to think they are? Be cause they multiply fast? Guess what else does that:
Geckos
Radroaches
And Fucking Cazadors

Is it that they can take down Deathclaws? Guess what else can do that:
The Courier (Easily)
Almost any one of their Companions (Particurally Boone)
A couple Desert Rangers
A coulpe Super Mutants
A Legion Assassin Squad (and there's fucktons of them)
and FUCKING CAZADORS

Seriously, not only are they not that hard to kill but their biggest fears are bright lights and fire, let alone the sun! The only reason they're above ground in the divide is because it's been blocked out. A few flood lights and flamers and towns wouldn't even have to be afraid at night. Yeah, they COULD be dangerous but put up even just a little intelligent and Organized resistance, which they don't face in the divide, and they'd be fucked.

Ulysses is an idiot.

Where can I find heavy synth armor after I destroy the institute? I'm level 85 and I can't even fine regular synth armor.

Why is there a truck stop right next to Sanctuary Hills? It's within walking distance from downtown Boston and there's like five of them in the area. Why would truck stops be that close to a major city anyway?

>>171254030
Lore trumps gameplay, Anon.

>>171254327
There's a mod for that.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/4550/?
If you're on shitbox, I can't help you. It's a mess to navigate bethnet.

>>171254030
I think it was the rate at which they multiplied + how hard they were to kill when compared with other animals combined with their underground nature, they could be right under your mojave and nuke towns overnight.

I still don't necessary agree with them being the biggest threat, though

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>>171254030
Consider this: duh bear and duh bull.

>>171254657
The only lore on them is that they're mutants who don't like sunlight and burrow underground. Aside from the burrowing, there's nothing about them that makes them more dangerous than cazadores.

>>171250197
>>171229815
>>171209579

https://youtu.be/4zLHrhOGw3A?t=4m42s

It really was, i was shocked at how good it was. Kinda reminded me of conversations in Half Life 2, which is a bit telling considering how old Half Life 2 is but i was still surprised by how well animated Maxson was during the conversation.

At least Bethesda has improved in some departments, animations in their previous games were so garbage it was incredible, i wonder if Todd finally fired that animator friend of his or whatever.