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Juggernaut edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://store.steampowered.com/news/28125/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Discord: https://killurselves.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
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sweet jesus, LoL looks ugly as fuck op
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>>171191525
kek
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>>171191418
wc3 was comf
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>>171191418
I hear and obey
excellent choice
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Reminder to post 20 pictures of Windrunner every thread!
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4th for shadow shaman dps
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pls stop nerfing balanced tree man
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>>171191745
lyralei a cute!
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>>171192134
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how are you doturds?

enjoying your dead, shitty game?

Enjoying getting raped by Lone Druid for another 2 months because you let shitters like faggoteezy and eternalweeb in the scene?
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>>171191745
>tfw I look exactly like WR irl and people make fun of me constantly for it
hmph!
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why CM is one of the biggest winners of 7.03 despite barely any changes to her or her items? I thought her winrate would drop a little with those xp changes
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>>171192347
post ur picture!
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>>171192374
increased xp required to lvl up
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>>171192406
bump
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>>171192406
>>171192175
>>171191745
redheads are not human
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it's enchantress better chen now?
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>>171192305
meh LD is really not a problem at my low 4k shit bracket
weaver is the real terror
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>>171192730
to be honest, in every trench Meepo seems more dangerous
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>>171191418
Is dotacouch dead? No new posts in 7 months. I heard that he locked away his new stuff behind patreon. Has anyone uploaded it anywhere? Also can you guys name other decent futa dota artists(both sfm and 2d)
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>>171193076
I adored his when he was doing his stuff, but I prefer drawings not sfm
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>>171193113
skeleton king looks like shit now.. what happened?
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>>171193113
check out this good goy
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>>171193113
N U M E T A
U
M
E
T
A
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>>171193113
>picking pa into silver edge rushers and week long disables

lmao kid say goodbye to ur mmr
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>>171193113
absolutely no control for ember
rip MeMeR
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>>171192679
DELETE THIS POST
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so are the players ITT as good as they say they are or is everyone awful?

everyone is so quick to criticise each other but dont show proofs of their mmr
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>>171193543
2.5k
i never criticize anyone though i just make funny posts
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>>171193543
there's no need as the average player is between 3-4k
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>>171193543
2.4k
I have lost all my motivation to play Dota lately.
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GUYS

HOW CAN I MEME JUNGLE TREANT?
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>>171193543
im 5k im terrible
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>>171193543
if you followed teachings of the one true prophet you would know mmr is just a trap mentally weak poeple follow for
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it's a free game
no complaining
you can choose not to buy the arcana
you can abandon the game if someone picks juggernaut and has the arcana
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would you suck cocks for mmr?
1 benis = 500 mmr
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>>171193543
4,1k party 2,5k solo lul, but i dont play dota alone
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>>171193705
UP
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>>171193724

>you can abandon the game if someone picks juggernaut and has the arcana

Sure, if you enjoy playing LP.
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>>171193705
the same way you meme jungle any other hero

buy iron talon then enjoy fucking your team over while getting mediocre farm

no real secret there
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>>171193748
thats a bit too high cost, how about 250 mmr so i could get to suck someones dick exactly 10 times?
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>>171193748
easiest fucking deal of my life
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>>171193917
you good?
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>>171193543
>implying shitty unranked pub dota isn't actually the most superior and fun form the game takes
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>Balancing heroes with XPM buffs, GPM buffs, respawn timer talents

THIS ISNT DOTA

STOP

STOP ITS ALREADY DEAD
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>>171193386
>>171193331
Rip mmr

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/3057553471
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>>171193991
this isnt dota

says the 4k mmr guy that plays it for whole 3 years, a true expert on what is and what isnt dota
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>>171193913
>>171193917
Look at these sluts now suck my dick so you learn something
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>>171192679
indeed
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>>171192679
They're superhuman!
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>>171194078
i played since beta, reddit
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i bet none of you cunts played allstars, let alone 3.7 or rumble
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>>171194349
wow since beta im really impressed
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>>171194353
ya but whats ur mmr
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So is he gonna get picked even with the nerfs?
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>>171193543
3.6k but I haven't played ranked in years. Matched with everything from 4k to 6k players in my unranked games. I could probably get to 5k with proper tryharding, but I am really bad at typical pubstompers like SF, slark, jugg, storm, invo, luna, etc
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>buy arcanananana
>oh boy oh boy oh boy
>juggernaut has been banned
>abandon
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>>171193991
>Introduce new totally never done before elements to a game tht are going to totally brake it.
>Let my only balance old shit
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>>171194493
support hero
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>>171194493
yes hes still stupid as a roamer
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>>171194461
higher than urs rofl
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>Level 20 Talent changed from +15% Cooldown Reduction to +500 Flame Guard Absorption
>Level 25 Talent changed from +500 Flame Guard Absorption to +20% Cooldown Reduction
Is freezetoad out of his fucking mind? Is he trying to get it high enough so you can teleport back and forth to base for infinite mana and chains?
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>>171194576

Thanks for giving me ideas, anon.
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>>171193851
the only real doto
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>>171194793
What are you on about anon?
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>>171194793
>at level 25 you have to choose between cooldown or chains
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>>171194859
in the heat of the shitpost I forgot chains were 25
my bad
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>>171194576
thats what ive been doing all day

its fucking hilarious, pissing off all of the good goys that want to use their shitty overpriced skin
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>>171194793
Does this make it so that you can't keep someone chained forever if you don't take that talent? Or does 20% cdr let you perma-chain someone anyway.
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What if there was an item that allowed you to cast a Blademail buff on an ally, like an upgrade of Blademail?
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>>171194921
Its so you cant perma chain someone and he nerfed the mage ember and buffed all normal items he built before, bf, buriza..
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>>171194921
Ember normal chains are on a 8 second Cd. So you need a hell of a lot more than 20% to reduce it to 2 seconds
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>>171193113
that's a bad angle but hey, it really looks edgy and i like it.
you are a very very very very very cute and handsome rich boy

thanks!
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>>171194493
He has always been badUrza
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>>171194493
i watched lil's stream today and he said that MK is awesome pos4 hero and first pick/first ban material
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>>171195687
>Lil BigMouth
>Aka talk shit and get btfo every tourny
>Caring what he thinks
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>Level 25 Talent changed from -3s Shadow Strike Cooldown to Removed Shadow Strike Cooldown
Just make it a Orb. It would be far more practical.

>>171194493
He is still one of the best gank heroes, because tree movement can only be detected by shitty ward locations.
The nerf's aren't even nerfs, because staying inactive for 35 seconds is a lot, as well.

Monkeys problems is that he needs some items to work(i.e Basher + Echo Saber), and he is rather frail because he needs to hit 4 times to become a real hero.
He is like Pinochio: He wants to be a real hero, but Icefrog won't let him
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>>171195994
I think he's going to be largely ignored and only played by south americans.
He's a hero that should not exist.
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wew sea server tonight is fucking SHIT
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Jesus christ i can't believe they keep buffing atos.
Also pitlord atos is fucking ridiculous.
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>>171193917
I bet you don't even suck cock good. Like it would be a +23 cock sucking.
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>>171196298
>tonight
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>>171195881
his opinion on the game is still more valid than some that's of some random shitters from /d2g/
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>>171196298
When did SEA server ever become not shit
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>>171196217
Lets see
>0 starting armor
Just means you need to itemize for laning
>55 base damage + 300 attack range and good animation
Pretty good
>305 movespeed
Good
>6th highest stat gain
Pretty good
>No manacost escape with same rules as Blink Dagger
>Very few heroes can cut trough multiple trees
OP as fuck

He is honestly a amazing hero, so long you don't go all in on Jingu Mastery, and use Tree Dance to gank, since its almost a permanent smoke.
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>tfw u can root someone for 12 seconds with atos on ember
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>>171196845
>atos on ember
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>>171196767
I think he's going to be like bounty hunter/earth spirit only he'll scale better damagewise rather than utilitywise. An extremely annoying roamer that can be anywhere on the map, stealing bounty runes, ganking, forcing tps, making enemy supports lives a nightmare. Echo sabre is fairly mandatory, but he's fairly flexible when it comes to items. Lategame he's pretty much an ultbot, which is admittedly worse than BHs gold or ESs aoe stun/silence if he has subpar farm.
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You know what would have been awesome with regards to Arcanas?

Aside from the special effects to the model and abilities, Arcanas should also change the model and voice of the hero to the opposite sex when you equip it.

BAM

INSTANT MONEY
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>>171197268
>Fem ShadowFiend
>Fem Terrorblade
>Fem Zeus?
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>>171197268
that's several times more work for valve and sales won't increase that much
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>>171197268
Imagine a sweaty, overweight peruvian neckbeard lina
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>>171197508
They would at least get another $90+ dollars from me, since I have bought 0 arcanas in 6 years of playing.
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>>171197352
>GILF Zeus
hhnnnggg fund it
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>>171197352
im going to pat your head and stroke your ears!
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Update:
>the girl I ignored friend request from added me again
>I add her
>we play a few games
>they go well
Just envisioning the rest of our lives together anon
think I made it
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Post oldota
I want to get depressed
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With the nerfs, how is his vacuum status?
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Team Spirit v Sharks on azubu /prodotaen has Spirit picking Monkey King if anyone is interested in watching.
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>>171197858
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depressed and dead
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>>171197767
ask to play with skype or ingame voice chat on so u can tell if shes a fatty/uggo
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>>171197858
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Techies still isn't in CM. Why did fucking nigger king get in yet my terrorist buddies still can't terrorize my in house games? Why Icefrog why?!
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are you serious icefraud
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>>171197858
Was fun
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>>171198302
i want to be inside CM, with my dick, if you catch my drift...
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>>171198302
>he still thinks icefrog is still working at valve
Sorry bro but Bruno replaced him and takes reddit memes and suggestions for futere patches.
reddit hates techies so you'll never see him again in cm
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>>171198474
I almost choked seeing that buff. Besides, who the fuck even gets that Talent? Puck can easily farm
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>>171198302
because he is strong even in pubs and becomes borderline broken with communication
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>>171198531

Eh, they can't them too much, considering they were crying about techies getting reported for playing techies a while back.
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red jugg arcana is actually lame, hope valve wont bite

red is like, good at first then gets shit eventually just like LC arcana and TB arcana.
Red is a type of color that's only fun at first.

blue on the other is plain. simple and you'll never get bored of it which is PA arcana is still outstanding on the top of PA being a popular hero.

i'd like it to be color-changeable like styles or gems though but i don't want them to just trash the current color and replace it with other permanently
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>>171198714

Well given the changes in the last patch, Icefrog doesn't think so.
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Give me your mememeta predictions, I want stuff to try out in ranked.
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I think lately /d2g/ has been forgetting who the real best girl is.
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>>171198865
4 bait 1 rat
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>>171198474
puck aghs: can give aghs to allies
alch ags: pierces bkb
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>>171198903
thats not windrunner though
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>>171198787
red what?
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Do my clones (illusion, Spectre's Haunt) proc bash in Abyssal Blade for example?
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>>171191418
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Why are phrases and the chat wheel broken?
I don't wanna type shit in or voice chat.
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>>171198958
everyone wants to recolor it into edgy red, while im just your casual contrarian.
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>>171198976
>clones (illusion
You do realise that clones and illusions are different things right?
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>>171195994
>tree movement can only be detected by shitty ward locations.
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>>171199053
the game defense of the ancients two (2) is currently on its beta phase of development so you cannot criticize the things that may happen and things they do in it.
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>>171198954
Yeah exactly.
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>>171198787
it's not about being boring, it's about original color scheme you dumb fuck
>>171198865
mask of madness spectre
armlet slark
veil of discord doom
mid shadow shaman
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>>171198903
>Jak the worst dragon got its model update instead of pugna
It's like they want their game to stay dead
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>>171199329

Jakiro looked like a literal trashbag.
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>>171199329
I've literally seen better models and textures on the PS2 than Jakiro had.
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>Sing solo queuing
Based
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>>171199175
windranger will never be this hot
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Kiev top 4 in no particular order

VirtusPro-EG-Secret-OG

post your t4 or die
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>sing, pajkatt vs bamboe, 7mad
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>>171198474

FREE to play game, free gifts given
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>>171199891
>VP
i am VP fan but top-4? i am not sure, top-8 is more plausible
>Secret
LMAO
EG, OG, IG.V and either Newbee or DC
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>>171199053
the chathweel phrase identifiers moved up by 1, okay used to be id 0, now it's 1 etc.
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>>171199891
1 - Liquid
2 - B)ears
3 - VP
4 - Onyx
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>>171199891
That's pretty much the safest and faggest choices, anon.

It'll be OG-Secret-Wings-EG
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why is d2g when our guy is streaming?
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>https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/c/c5/Terr_ally_22.mp3

What did he mean by this?
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>>171200340
>2 - B)ears
a-anon...
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What would you play in this lineup? How would you cover your weaknesses?
Meepo-Silencer-Centaur core
Kotl support
pos4 open
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>>171200340
2 - B)ears
anon…
>>171200347
> faggest choices
>mentions secret
hmmm
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>>171199891
VG.J
Liquid
VirtusPro
IG
Jiayou motherfuckers
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so what are the new mmr climb champions ?
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man getting cliffed must feel like shit, thank god that never happened to me
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>>171200663

CARRY Abaddon
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>>171199891
SG sports will eliminate EG

screencap this
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>>171200663
>WHERE THE FUCK IS MY MONEY?
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>>171200593
Lanes decently strong, kotl for sustain, cent+global is pretty dirty teamfight combo / global save, you're mainly lacking stuns

probably venge, swap is perfect for saving silencer or a meepo if they're in deep shit, aura is great for meepo pushing
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>>171200593
>giving the best line up possible in pre 7.03
just abandon
>>171200663
Blitzcrank
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>>171200242
Vp closed games more consistently in my opinion.
>>171200340
B and Onyx. I dunno my man.. we discuss the underdog? i like that
>>171200347
your faggotry is of my liking. Wings is underdog to me, nice one.
>>171200739
brother, I did. Just you wait!
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>>171201110
uhm, no? this only is on par with Slardar-Warlock things, and anything that doesn't have Druid is tier 2.
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>>171200730
this and Silencer are so fun to play
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>>171199119
k, what about Spectre's ult in specific?
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What was wrong with the old hud?
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I haven't played the new patch yet, how are the gold changes and comeback nerfs? Still too early to tell?
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>>171201439
you can't see the gank coming from your low right. sorry english not meme
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>>171201468
Everything's fucking slower.
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>>171201118
>Vp closed games more consistently in my opinion.
that's because CIS dota is fucking shit except for them
also those predictions since kiev IS SAME FUCKING SINGLE ELIMINATIONS BULLSHIT AGAIN so unless valve doesn't come up with better group format we are doomed for the same unbalanced brackets
>>171201424
spectre ult are illusions
the only clones in the game are arc warden clone and monkey king ult, their interactions with items are the same as heroes for the most part
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>>171201424
only heroes and hero clones can bash, ie only tempest double
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>>171201687
what do you think that promotes? better teams getting it easier or underdogs getting a chance? pls explain
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>>171201645
sounds good then, I enjoy my autistic slow paced gaming
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will sing ever make it to 8k
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>>171201976
who the fuck cars?
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>>171202108
>not caring about our guy
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>>171196845
Atos on pitlord allows malice to trigger twice. It's fucking ridiculous.
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hi
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>no one realize the TP and exp nerf at low levels is to prevent supports from roaming and keep them at their lanes (supporting their carries)
Maybe 4 more patches until we see the complete summoner's rift
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>>171201832
it promotes teams not getting places they deserve
if VP or EG were in ad finem place in boston they would get easily top-2 they deserve, instead VP get placed with only team had chance against them (EG) and gets 5-8th place and EG gets the same treatment from OG in the next round
if it was double elimination those three teams would be in top three
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>>171202108
I car, i bmw.
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>>171202276
it's intended tho i dunno why.. Icefraud removed the BKB pierce and added a more OP thing to balance out later.. wtf?
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>>171199303
original scheme or whatever the fuck you smart shit, its still lame.
also, if you're not playing in a small as shit ant pc, you could easily recognize who is jug and who is PA.
its not as bullshit as red skywrath
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>about an hour before I LEAVE for class, I can get a game in
>team booga. Our rhasta probably.has less tower damage than our techies
>game goes over hour mark. I need to go, buy divine on ember.
>we wipe them. They all buy back, wipe us. They have divine now.
>we buy back. We wipe them. I get 2nd divine, trying to throw as hard as possible at this point
>team fight. They murder me. Peruvian throw command starts triggering. Enemy team literally stops fighting to pick up divines
>they all buy back. I just leave my house at this point. 2 hour game
>arrive to class 15 minutes late
>wont know how that game ended until like 6 hours from now
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>>171199175
>>171199673
delete both of these posts immediately
WINDRUNNER IS THE CUTEST HOTTEST DOTA WAIFU AND SHE IS A REAL GIRL NOT A SKELETON LIKE PUGNA
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>>171191782

rushing medallion on shadow shaman is probably a good idea with the buffs, and his skillset in general
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>>171202913
you lost
and you got LP
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>retard redditors pretending to know anything about color theory, and are currently crying about the new arcana

what a bunch of retards lol
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100 movement speed on my boi bane

Np more intelligence

Tiny buffed

So much yes
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>>171203000
new arcana looks like shit and you know it
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>>171203000
It's because Valve wanted to make Genji arcana but green would be too obvious.
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>>171203256
shut a fuck up and check my trips fag
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I want to mount Earthshaker and pound his ass.
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>>171203346
shit, my bad didn't notice the trips
you are an alright guy anon
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>>171203000
Best thing about this arcana is seeing salty redditors complaining about how Wisp didn't win the vote. It's stuff like this that makes me remember how stupid reddit is, they wanted an arcana for one of the most unpopular heroes that is literally just a ball of light because it would be "lolsorandomxd" instead of an arcana for jugg, the hero who is the face of dota
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The worst thing about this arcana is that when you get above 360 movespeed Jugg will do that thing where he drags his sword on the ground. It looks cool but he does it way to often, he does it literally every five seconds and it starts getting really obnoxious because of the noise it makes. Valve needs to fix this shit.
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>>171203505
>the hero who is the face of dota
huh?
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>>171203623
510 GPM fairy is a meme but I wouldn't say he's the face of Dota.
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>>171202926
don't be jealous you fat cunt!
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>>171203618

>35 bucks so my hero can look like genji and make a nails on chalkboard sound because i bought phase boots or picked up haste rune
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>>171203623
Please visit this website http://blog.dota2.com/ and tell me who has been in the middle of the banner for the past 3 years
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haha love it when the 2stack tell you you cant play venge as a carry

and then the enemy has a guy 1.5k above avg

haha

loving this meme valve!

stacks in soloqueue!1

haha!
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>>171203821
This is by far the worst part of it
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Did our guy(bulldog) get out of his depression yet?
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>>171203802
stop bullying my wife, shes not fat ur going to make her cry!
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>>171202405
so, it's even more competitive? I can't give a crap about 'deserving', rather 'perfoming'. Ad Finem is a bad team that performed.
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>>171203832
>http://blog.dota2.com/

Why does Valve love that skill-less hero anyway? Because he's easy for all the 2k shitters to feel good?
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>>171203872
>carry venge
>loss

Pottery
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>>171203623
>hero cards
im sad now
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>>171204001
I think he's one of the better dota designs, both visually and gameplay wise. He's a very simple but rewarding hero with a distinctive look so he works well for marketing.
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>>171204024
lost cause the enemy had a guy 1.5k above the avg and the 2stack on my team refused to let me play safelane

I jungled, took part in as many kills as drow, was 3 levels above her and 2k net above
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>>171203320
better make all arcanas teal
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>>171203949
Cool pic bro, but i don't think your wife is pure.
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>>171204151
I mean I would also blame the fuckheads who chose useless strength hero.1 and 2
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>>171204354
H-how did you get this picture from my phone?
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>>171204495
that was from my friend Tyrone he sent it to me.
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>>171199146
Basically: Yes
Unless you bother to counterpick him in some way, and even then: Thats still has its limitation
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>>171203949
she's just needy fatty. Bet youre shovin' down that Maiden's Ice Cream right now, don't you chubbychubs?
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>>171203623
hero cards
we hearthstone now
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>http://steamcharts.com/app/570

>-38,663.9 Gain
>-6.54% Gain

lol.....

LOL!
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>>171204001
>Valve
>loves anything dota 2 related
>not the immense chinamen player base
glad to help (u)
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>>171204614
>your friend tyrone
im not a cuck like you though, this picture is clearly shopped

>>171204895
the only thing im shoving down maiden right now is my dick, how dare u suggest i even be eating ice cream this early on!
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Defend this.

No, seriously.

I'd like to see you try.
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>>171203872
>hides names
No need to be ashamed that you're 2k mmr. Most people here are worse than you.
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>>171205339
don't worry dude its just a beta
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>>171193076
Hey anon, I got everything he posted on his patreon. I was pissed he wasn't posting in his blog anymore, so I paid once, downloaded everything and unpledged.

He hasn't posted there in his patreon for over 4 months, though.

I can give you a rar with everything he posted there, but I'm at work right now. Tell me if you're interested.
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>>171205171
hope the xexercise works for you!
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tier of undeads in dota:
>literally undead
Undying
Wraith King
Clinkz
Pugna
Lich
Death Prophet
>most likely undead
Lifestealer
Pudge
Razor
Visage
Vengeful Spirit
Necrophos
>may be undead
Kunkka
Abaddon
Huskar
Dazzle
Leshrak
Witch Doctor
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>>171205549
who wrote this note though?
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>>171205784
where does mildly inconvenienced man fit in?
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>>171205992
me
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>>171206034
are you cute though?
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>>171206017
he fits into his comfy throne in Hell and also at the bottom of the the hero table sorted by winning percentage
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>>171205992
u silly rangers..
>>171206034
no u didn't!
>>
Haven't played this game since 2012, who do I watch to catch up on things? Checked out purge but it only made me more confused.
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>>171206653
remember silencer? well, along with 200 heroes its pretty much the dame thing
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>>171206653
just play the game and watch pro matches, look stuff you are confused about up on the wiki, or ask here or on reddit
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>>171206653
you might as well start to learn game from scratch
play a couple of games with bots to warm up and then play least played mode
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>>171203623
i miss the hero cards

why would they remove it? it's so much more fucking difficult to find who i'm looking for in small shitty thumbnails
>>
How does it feel being interested in a dead game, doturds?

You caused this shit, with your hard on for ezspurts. Now the muslim is balancing around ezspurts and look where you are.

Choke on it, tourneyfags.
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>>171206985
the game defense of the ancients two (2) is currently on its beta phase of development so you cannot criticize the things that may happen and things they do in it.
>>
Anyone else got issues with drag to sell?

At least with the Secret Shop radiant it doesn't seem to work.
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>>171207795
the game defense of the ancients two (2) is currently on its beta phase of development so you cannot criticize the things that may happen and things they do in it.
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>>171192374
But CM was always good anon
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>>171204990
NOOOOOOOOOO
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>>171207590
There isn't anything better though, did you just stop gaming?
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>>171207992

Did you know that HoTS is actually really good. I have a couple of RL friends that plays it all the time.

It's really smooth, polished and bug free.

The games are pretty fast, they last about 30 mins max, which is also why my friends chose to play it to begin with.

They are fun because with that timeframe, you don't have people sperging out, raging, throwing, tilting, insulting or doing some LUL RANDOM XD shit.

The tactics of the game aren't as vast as in DOTA due to the size of the maps, but good map-awareness, team-play, calling out good move decisions and even split-push can definitely make a comeback and win a game you thought to have lost.

I played it for over 4 days when I was visiting a friend at his house and I had a great time. My only regret is that in the Blizzard side you have to subject yourself to the farming and daily quest pattern.

Which I really hate. I really dislike the modus operandi where you have to farm dailys for points and then use these points to purchase the Heroes. But I understand that it's Blizzard's way to make money out of the game, and at least they are open, in-your-face about it instead of doing shit behind the curtains like Valvo does.

Overall HoTS is a pretty decent game, it's really easy and fun at the end of the day, which is the primary reason why people should be playing video games to begin with.
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>>171207992
lmao

absolute retard

even eating shit is better than playing this piece of shit game

fuck you faggot

get cancer
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>it's out
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>you must be level 5 to chat
Did they bork chat fucking again?
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>>171208324
are juicy thick thighs templar's secret?
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>jugg arcana changes colors according to the sword he's equipped with

Fixed. Boosts the market economy too.
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>>171207590
there (u) go!
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WHO'S THAT DOTAMON?
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>>171208145
>HOTS
LMAO
it can appear as fun at first but it becomes stale in week and deadly boring in two
only brainless vegetables can enjoy that game
>>
>undying finally got a non garbage set
>it's very rare and 18 fucking dollars
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171209028
shadow shaman
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>>171209028
Treant
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>>171209028
riki
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>>171207987
maybe
>>171208212
dota makes me forget about gf, its like a drug. It's angry enviroment numbs all other sensations.
>>171208324
that's a man face
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>>171208854
>giving money to valve or chilly muslimcunt after the shitshow that is 7.00

Consider drinking bleach, cunt.
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>>171208854
no stupid goyim

you can change the colour of jug arcana using prismatics/gems

sidenote: gems cost anywhere from $20 to $2000, IMAGINE THE MONEY
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>>171209259
look for a trap and it will be alright, normieshit
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>the chimp is called Kelly
fucking power rangers man
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>>171209481
>normieshit
>looking for a trap
this shows with ease how idiotic (u) are
THE FACT THAT SHES A TRAP isn't even remotely triggering, tha'ts just the secret.. and it's uut, leaf
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>>171209167
>>171209210
>>171209245
better luck next time!

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/166/608/7d5.jpg
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>>171209028
jugg
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>>171209136
>firebird finally gets it first set
>it's extremely rare and costs $50
JUST
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Ryujin no ken wo kurae!
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>>171208324
>those thighs
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>>171209881
>tfw i got it from opening the chest from the dark moon event
>untradable, ungiftable
>i don't even play pheonix
>>
/d2g/ listen to my story and give me advice on what to do

>get into dota after watching ti6

>play nothing but bot games for months

>start pvp last month

>only play random draft, it has the most pleasant players

>hit level 20 today

>play 2 ranked random draft games

>first is 1500mmr avg, mid centaur claims before hand he is 4k smurf, goes afk after dusa gets a 15 min skadi, i had to mute him cause he was so annoying on mic

>second, 2k mmr, mid huskar, swears that burning spears draw aggro and there is no way to cast it without drawing aggro, he is also 4k mmr smurf, somehow actually wins lane, I play t. braindead sword carry and we actually win

should I just avoid ranked and stick to unranked? already way more toxcity in ranked. i dont really care if i calibrate at 1.5k, but people keep calling that the trench, as if it is very ominous and miserable to play in, but unranked 1.5k seems fine, i have fun in my games, and thats what matters to me desu

sorry for the wall of text, i want your thoughts d2g
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>>171209746
It shows how out of the loop you actually are. It is one of the mainstream things nowadays, autist. But then again you play modern Dota so I shouldn't have expected more.
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>>171210012
>implying you couldnt put it on the market for 5 bucks and immediately link the page on the gulag for a hat grabbing shitshow
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>>171209965
is it me or does the armadillo pet look fucking stupid? ruins any set i see
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>>171210295
it has a nice golden particle effect when ingame but its not visible on the loadout, similar to pudge's golden reel hook but more pronounced
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>>171209373
kek
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>>171210164
People will get mad no matter what mode you play in, it's just that you have a reason to get mad in Ranked.
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>>171210228
out of the loop? thank you, I don't want to be in it, sufice that we are in this thread
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>>171199891
Secret VP Liquid iG
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>>171210164
git gud
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>>171210268
it's unmarketable too, dummy

literally stuck on my account permanently

if it was at least giftable i'd give it to someone here
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>>171210164
you posted this last thread fuck off
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>>171210589
Lmao, just get cancer, faggot.
>>
who's the next one doturdists?
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>>171210268
Illidanstr is by far the sexiest man in dota
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>>171211075
I will, and send it back to (u)
just like this post
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>>171211085
the i dont want to play this with bots one

>>171211221
choke in it, normie faggot
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whats your "Most Gold" record?

Alchemists need not apply
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@171211327
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>>171205527
I'm down mate
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>beeing this dense
>memes it
>ppl actually enjoy it

his voice has something OP
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>>171211714
Alright. I'll post it here asap. Just give me a few hours.
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Purge has a 2 hours video for this shittry patch

imagine how autistic you all are, faggots
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>>171211493
It's weird because I didn't feel like I farmed that much. I have been beating a lot of records lately, yesterday I got most last hits, 901 as Treant in a exactly one hour game. That sniper game also got me most hero damage (126,316).

Shit like most kills will probably probably be forever stuck in my 2013 drow match where I somehow got 47 kills.
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I actually like the Jug arcana.
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Are u not entertained?
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>>171211493
and i never played timber or any core that can't hit buildings after that game
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PSA: dont fire aghs PL at aghs AM or else you're gonna have a bad time
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>>171211493
i had 5 fuckign rapiers
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>>171191418
>>171192406
*teleports behind you*
Nothing personal, kid...
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>>171212487
>>171212806
>>171212216
>>171212487
>>171211493
58k with furion

plot twist: we lost
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>>171212787
please tell me it bounces and creates a fuck ton of magina illusions
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>>171211024
>valve's face when someone tries to give free stuff
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>>171211493
Pushing against Techies, not even once.
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>>171212372
We thought you were dead
Can you go back to being dead pls
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>>171211172
ikr
too bad he is as handsome as he is irrelevant
it also looks like he is quietly retired and plays wow and diablo all days
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>>171210295
I sold mine because it looks so stupid.
Reminder to ban juggernaut every game to upset autists.
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>>171192374
Increased mana means more nukes, which means more lanes won.
This is the same game where it costs 500 gold to get 0.6 mana regen aura, and 225 gold for temporary +0.85/sec.
Meanwhile on CM
>Mana aura, GLOBAL Allies Mana Regen Bonus: 1/1.5/2/3 and 2/3/4/8 to self
>Frostbite: Lasts 10 seconds on creeps, 1000 FREE DAMAGE to jungle creeps
This is in the same game where Windrunner gets INFINITE MANA from a her +4 mana regen talent.

No fucking shit she is going to stay over 50%, even if she is played like a ranged creep by bads.
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>>171213515
what

he looks like a resurrected undead
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everyone, post ur rare lewds
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Why haven't you taken control of your life yet?
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>>171213583

frostbite is one of the easiest ways to get early kills too, using it on creeps is a waste when you can just slaughter heroes with it
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>>171213810
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>>171207875
>>171213583
i know that she was strong in pubs, what i don't understand is why her winrate gone up this patch, may be not by a lot but still it's sixth or seventh biggest gain
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>>171213810
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>>171213964
>leveling up quickly on a hero that hits her peak at level 4 is a waste
>>
>>171211493
>most hero healing
>lycan
Kek
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>>171213947
I tried...
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>meme fights nerfed
>deathballing nerfed
>splitpush buffed but not too much
>farming is viable after 15 minutes
>pudge hook is slower than a granny with a broken back
is this the patch that saved dota?
>>
>>171214042
Because autists are playing juggernaut more which means beta max supports are going cm.
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>>171213810
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>>171214042
Because she scales better earlygame.
And since earlygame is longer now, her mana aura is a lot stronger
And so is her EXP gain, since she jungles extremely fast if you know how to stack camps.

To elaborate: If your team has more mana, they fight better. And since laning lasts another 5 more minutes, that means her impact is bigger.

Just like how Bloodseeker jungling is still a treat, because his global thirst aura means you can't juke or go invis a low HP
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>>171214323
>shrines still in the game
Nah
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>>171214042

i have a feeling that its because gold gain got nerfed and cm needs like no items to do well, and experience gain nerfs along with tp scroll nerf make the early game last a few precious minutes longer

wards and boots are literally all she needs to kill heroes effectively and support
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>>171214323
What;s the splitpushing change?
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>>171214663
towers have 2 less armor if only 1 hero is pushing it
4 less if only summons/creeps
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I meant that I was having fun
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>>171214824
>tfw MoM enchantress is no longer possible
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>>171214536
Shrines are actually cool though
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>>171214323
>supports without meme talents now get even less gold than before
doubt it
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>>171215229
spotted the redditor support main
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>>171215098

>BACK IN MY DAY IF YOU WANTED THAT KINDA HEALIN YOU HAD TO PICK UP A REGEN RUNE, WALK BACK TO THE FOUNTAIN, OR FUCKING DIE

>YOU WHIPPERSNAPPERS GOT IT TOO GOOD
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>>171215353
fuck off gyrocopter, you arent allowed to be a good carry anymore
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>>171215229
time to relearn how to run an efficient pulling/zoning safelane so you can get lvl 6 on atleast one support
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>>171215229
>mfw Undying now gets 100% increased gpm at level 10
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>>171205339
Actually can't tell.
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>>171214992
says who? I am too fast for shitters
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>>171214992
fuck.. you reminded me of it

i had already forgotten how fun it was

;_;
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>>171214992
thicc
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>get +60 damage as CM
>end up getting second tower damage in the team falling short by 200 after spectre
wew lad
i mean it wasn't the best team in terms of killing buildings but still
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>>171211493
pleb reporting in

>tfw lost
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YO WHAT THE FUCK, THE BUGS SPLIT PERFECTLY IN 2 AND COMPLETELY MISSED HIM, WHAT IS EVEN THE CHANCE OF THAT HAPPENING?
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>>171216765
kek
that reminds me
with the right footwork you can also completely negate tinker's march of the machines damage

ain't dota just a funny game
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Fuck this gay earth
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This game is becoming an absolute mess like they did to TF2. Particles and colors everywhere. Nothing makes sense. Items and gameplay additions just keep piling up getting more and more out of control. Dota is losing its identity.
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>>171216765
I legitimately thought that was PA before I watched it for a second time.
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>>171214323
>>farming is viable after 15 minutes

It always was retard.
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>>171217061
hnnng those feettttt
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>>171215639
The devs explicitly said they wanted to put an end to or heavily reduce pulling.
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>>171217089
I don't understand this glance value meme that everybody loves to parrot.
Maybe it's because I'm not fucking retarded and my eyes actually work, but I never once looked at that and legitimately thought it was a different hero. This goes with pretty much every other set in the game too.
Sure some of them look really similar and shit but they're still fucking easy to distinguish from another so long as you aren't retarded or legally blind.
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>>171217261
meme pulling maybe, but safelane pulling is still same exp unlike lane creeps
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>>171211493
91,923 gold 2 hour game
alchemist
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>>171214390
pls sauce
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>>171217061
Agreed. Shit is clowny with all the changes and cosmetics. Impossible for noobs to learn nowadays. Dota is losing it's playerbase because people are leaving, and new people aren't joining,.
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>>171212904
Yes.
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>>171217207
feeets
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>>171217989
>feets
>when her massive tits are drooping out of her shirt

nigga get your priorities straight
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>>171217517
have you never forgotten wher ethe fuck your hero is in a fucked teamfight and mashed your select hero key
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>>171217517
glance value is mostly a meme but can become real issue if it goes out of control
people mostly complain about color schemes
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>play a long game
>get physically exhausted
fug
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>>171218158
sorry
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>no 3 person hero

why does HoTS get a 1controls3 and 2controls1 hero, but we dont?
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>>171218985
because hots is a meme game
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>>171218985
is that a jojo reference?
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>>171218985
>relying on your team even more than you have to

Please no
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>>171219116
>posting turkroach
>>
How do I get gud at timber
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>>171214136
I cringe whenever I see a shitter CM on my team walk straight to lane and throw tickle-bitch auto attacks at the offlaner instead of jungling and smoking mid.
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>come to /vg/ for help in raising my MMR
>get told to play techies
>play techies and get placed in LP
>contemplate suicide
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN game guys. man do i fucking LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE dota.
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>>171217989
>you will never lick clean the dirt between her toes

why live
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>>171219518
>>come to /vg/ for help in raising my MMR
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>>171219518
>Take /vg/'s advice
>actually do it

M A D M A N
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>>171219554
yeah, just fucking kill me already
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>>171219518
>not being your own special snowflake
>a game that can be played almost any way you want
Yall fucks need to be charmed to think for yourself
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>>171219237
>posting the masterrace
You say that as if it's a bad thing
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>>171219237
DELET
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>>171219750
>turks
>master race
>there are people dumb enough to believe this
>>
Wykrhm Reddy @wykrhm

Pugna model update coming up! #Dota2
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>>171219962
dont talk shit about the superior race
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>>171219116
>>171219750
>>171219953
reminder anzu sells her body to pay for college
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>>171219750
Anzu is a anorexic doll.
I pity her.
Then again, at the least she gets to post herself in fashion, thats her only redeeming quality.
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>>171220052
benis become bagina :DD
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>google "anzujammu without makeup"
>she looks like my former classmate
what the fuck
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>>171220139
>mad because u dont have enough money to buy her
hows it like to be this much of a poorfag?
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>>171219708
literally perfect
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>>171191418
How many images do you have in your Traxex folder?
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>>171220324
>wanting to travel to turkey to fuck an anorexic turk with big eyes

I think I'll just stay here in my 1st world country and not fugg a roach, thank you.
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>>171220607
Just admit it you want to fuck her. Stop pretending to be super proud or something. It's an anonymous imageboard.
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i am a new player and after looking through most of the heros i really like ursa and underlord.

are these good heros to practice and learn the game with?
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>>171220893
fuck off anzu
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>>171217517
Try laning against a sb and a lion with the retarded fire shoulders and tell me it's not confusing tabbing back to your lane to see 2 balls of fire walking in circles
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>>171220893
I wouldnt and dont want to fuck her
No roach for me
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>>171216765
>ARCANA
>IN
>ACTION
Why didnt you pay 35 shekels for FREE DISJOINTS?
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>>171221021
They are both fine. Just use your ult on Underlord as a free Boots of Travel. Too many shitters trying to make big plays with it and fucking up fights.
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>>171220759
>>171220981
Why did mods delete these dota posts

but let posts like these
>>171221031
>>171220607
>>171220324
>>171220139
>>171219953
exist?
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>>171221021
they are okay to get bacis but you shouldn't hesitate to try other heroes, especially those which you have trouble playing against, that's probably the best way to learn game
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>Jakiro Dual Breath deals 620 damage if you pick the damage talents at level 10 and 15
Why are people still sleeping on this hero? I swear this mofo is free wins in this patch.
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>>171221668
Jakiro has been receiving the Lina treatment for a while now.
>>
I wish Nightstalker was better because he's fun as fuck. He's not in a super bad spot, but none of his talents are that exceptional except for 4 second Crippling Fear cooldown. But that comes to late, and it suffers from being a silence in general.
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>>171221668
>not taking the xp talent
this is why he's shit: Shit players play him
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>>171222007
Xp talents (save tusk) are usually the worse of the two options
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>>171222069
legion commanders 8 str is pretty shitty aswell
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>>171221857
yeah same, I just wish he wouldn't drop off so hard after the 2nd night.
Maybe going aghs isn't the right build anymore? But I don't know what would be better
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>>171222007
>xp talents
>becomes useless once you hit 18
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>>171222069
LC's level 10 exp talent is far better than the +str
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>>171222069
What about Invoker?
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>>171222184
Rushing AC is pretty good. By that point you have a lot of health, and having 20+ armor by then is decent.

It really depends on what you're running him as. If you're just an offlaner you rush Aghs so your mid and safelane can see everything and murder bitches. You go mid you can go for a bit more fight oriented build I think.
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>>171222250
>level 20 and 25 talents are useless
Now as I was saying, shit players...
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>>171222337
>getting talents on invoker
>>
>blood blister on finger
>want to pop it bc hurts like a bitch
>don't have any sterile needles

nice game dotards
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>>171219742

you can play it any way you want, but youre still going to have to play around your enemies and teammates
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>>171222337
what about going late and having a useless talent?
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>>171216765
>BUGGED BUG MECHANICS
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>>171222069
Techies cast range buff is pretty meaningless when his 20 and 25 talents are pretty good.
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>>171222456
>not going armlet,abyssal,mjolnir,ac,bloodthorn on him
pleb as fuck
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>>171222483
>being afraid of a little bacteria
if you dont have diabetes or the immune system of a 90 years old youre fine you pussy ass bitch
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>>171216990
Holy shit that blows.
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>>171222184
aghs is meme unless you are 5k or higher
even if you see their whole team your retarded initiator will jump on closest enemy even if it's six slotted medusa
getting cheap carry items like maelstrom/basher and utility like solar crest/crimson/AC and of course bkb is probably better course of action
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>>171222461
better damage and clearing lead to better xp generation.

Look how respawn reduction is total ass. IF you all die at the same time even if you spawn earlier very few heroes can make do with the gap until their allies respawn.
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>>171222461
20
-gpm talents useless at that late/level, if you need to get there fast, get a midas instead of gimping yourself by taking an XPM talent
-Jakiro isnt a siege hero, doesnt need +400 attack range, you only need to use liquid fire on a tower once every 6 seconds (fire, fire, blink, fire fire blink) is good enough, 400 range is just retarded

25
-+1.25 icepath is a lackluster 25 which you honestly dont need considering how easy "euls/stun/slow out of stun/euls/stun rinse repeat" is to pull off
--50sec respawn isnt required if youre lower levels and have gold for buyback, it's a luxury level 25 talent since jakiro isnt a hero thats supposed to reach 25 in every game

HURR DURR BAD PLAYERS XDDD

jakiro is a shit hero and only needs to be level 7 to be effective, anything above 7 is a luxury to be

you're the shitter my FamPaiReeno
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>>171222679
That's REALLY reliant on snowballing though, and you kind of need some fairly heavy sustain for that too. I mean, he already has super high mana problems, but don't tell me you're not getting at least an Urn on him first?

Also my last game was against an Elder Titan and Troll combo so I desperately needed the armor. Only died once to a first hit bash
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>>171222998
that was supposed to be like a mid/lategame build ofcourse you get urn, thats like the corest item on ns
also if youre not snowballing on him youre playing the hero wrong
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>>171221857
>>171222184
>>171222456
>>171222679
>>171222998
>attack speed
>hero that gets a free moonshard for 50%+ of the game
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>>171222981
>Not wanting to build blink aether lens jakiro that can initiate from across the map

bad goy
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>>171223173
>building attackspeed on alchemist when he gets 1.0 bat eventually
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>>171223301
you should learn how attack speed and bat works if you're not memeing
>>
When you hear the term glass cannon, what hero do you think of?
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>>171222981
>-gpm talents useless at that late/level

Not true at all. There are plenty of good late game item options for Jakiro. Not to mention you won't have to worry about buyback gold as much.

>Jakiro isnt a siege hero, doesnt need +400 attack range

lol, just lol. More attack range makes taking the highground against turtle comps so much easier and less risky. You can also play much further back in teamfights and still be able to apply liquid fire without exposing yourself to danger. You have no clue what you're talking about.
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>>171223301
>bots
>armlet (1 glove of haste)
>radiance
>manta (built for illus and hp stats)
>octarine
>Shivas

>4k to spend tier: moonshard
>retarded excess: aghs

alch doesnt build that much attack speed, at all
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>>171223497
i can only react to a dumb argument with an even dumber one
sorry
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>>171223524
pure DPS faceless void
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>>171222981
>gpm is useless late game

EXPLAIN PUCK 420 GOLD PER MINUTO THERE FRIENDO
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>>171222069
and what is tusk supposed to do with the exp? level up his insanely scaling abilities?
+25 snowball damage with each level really breaks the game man
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>>171223574
Why not? It's so much fun to build a massive attack speed alchemist because it scales so well and he can melt an enemy in a second while bashing them or a tower in 3 seconds. I remember that build was extremely popular in TI3.
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>>171223524
Sniper, Drow, Zeus, Ember, Weaver, Le flying exp tome, Windrunner,
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>>171222184
Aghs Gem is only good if the enemy team is warding, and your team understands initiation.
Then again, Nightstalker Ult + Aghs is basically a smoke gank that never ends.
>>
TERROR
BLADE
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>>171223921
40% xp is much much better than the damage. if you play tusk as a right click carry or some shit, end yourself my man
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>>171223936
It is fun, but it's not the best or even that common of a build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73BKYuzlvyU
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>>171222981
>-gpm talents useless at that late/level
20 isn't late in pubs.
Its reachable in pro games for position 1 to 3.
I agree that Jakrio's talents are either lackluster, or weird fun flavor.
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>>171223921
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but heroes generally scale their damage/survivability off of levels and skill points in the early game.
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>>171223524
skywrath of course
>playing le magic birdman in overthrow
>rush octarine and go etherial blade afterwards
>burst shitters faster than they "cuck"
too bad you need to farm creeps and rely on enemies forgetting about existance of bkb to do that in regular game
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>>171224085
>build alch as an actual rightclicker that can actually carry after 25 minutes
>enemy carry gets suprised when i bash his little faggot head in
every time
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>>171223936
>>171224085
2:44 in that vid
with the lifesteal its so fun, but its still quite a bad build in comparison to radi/manta/octa
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>>171224225
I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but deathtimers and buyback cost generally increase the higher your hero level is
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>>171223574
>Get MKB
>AC
>Mjollnir
>Keep the Octameme to regenerate from the Mjollnir procs
>Get a Basher or Moonshard or Butterfly
>BKB if there is possibility of chain disable or purge
Its fun. Even more so because you can't really trade with alchemist if you keep getting stunned out of your attack animation, and Mjollnir spell damage melts the enemy team.
>>
>>171223574
>>171223574
Why does alch build octarine? I don't get it.
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>>171224363
You're right. That's why you want to starve your cores of exp so their death timers are short and bb costs are low :^)))))))))))))))))))))))))))

You're probably a 3k ape who sits in lane as support and leeches exp while contributing nothing.
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>>171224054
xp gives you shit talents, shit levels on abilities and higher respawn time
the damage actually increases you damage in all situations, the damage with with your ult alone does more damage than all abilities maxxed out
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>>171224561
Radiance does magic damage
Octa gives magic damage lifesteal and reduces CDs

You have higher uptime on ult and manta, and your manta illus can survive much longer, as well as your main hero being able to actually fight into people, since youre getting life back without having to hit enemies cause radi is AoE

same reason that Naga builds Radi/Octa
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>>171224561
The exact same reason Naga siren does.
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>>171224646
cores die less often than supports
cores are more likely to have buyback gold than supports
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>>171224748
How do you best utilize Alchemist illusions? For example, I use AM illusions to cut an enemy's MP before going in myself so there's much less opportunity to get disabled before getting off ulti.
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>>171224561
to reduce manta illusion downtime, it's 10 without octarine and 2.5 with it
also ult cooldown pretty important too since don't have it every time you need it the most
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>>171224246
>playing a caster other than oracle in overthrow
why
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>>171225087
Right so this is why supports purposefully avoid gaining exp. Thanks for clearing that up.
>>
i miss long qua guys
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>>171224334
it's objectively worse but you can absolutely win with it.
especially with the alch buff.
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>>171225480
you are welcome
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how the tides have turned
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>>171224561
If you deal 320 magic damage a second just from running into the enemy team, you heal for 75hp/second.
You also heal from Mjollnir procs, creeps walking into the area, illusions, heroes taking Acid Spray damage, etc.

Its basically Durability.
That said, the entire build isn't about the Octameme, but about getting ahead, using the EHP advantage to win the game, and maybe get a Octarine core to push the advantage.
Farm vacuuming the map as Bad Naga is stupid.
>>
>>171193113
damn, yurnero looks like THAT?
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>>171225605
where's america?
>>
>>171225818
Too busy winning.
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>>171225818
NA looooooooooool
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>>171225818
wasn't discovered at the time that picture was made
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>>171225097
Please respond
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>>171226183
you farm with them.
send them to jungle camps or cut the lane.
it's not rocket science.
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>>171225097
nagachemist played exactly like naga you use illusions to farm creeps except you don't have nuke so you can only kill only lane creeps so you jungle with your hero
>>
what is the best announcer and why is it Stanley Parable
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>>171225605
I like Chinese ricing style. The absolute best meta the game has ever had was Chinese trilane vs trilane with crazy risky plays and/or the most efficient farming that's ever been seen. The old jungle was the fucking best. You could double pull a single wave of creeps to kill 2 camps, and stack a 3rd one while you're at it. Every speck of gold was used, even so far as to do shit like send heroes to farm JUST the ancient camps. Camp blocking wars were huge, to the point where people discovered niche warding spots in between trees. Then assuming no team managed to get the upper hand by stopping the enemy carry's farm, the late game is some of the most tense dota there ever was with both teams playing 4 protect 1 and basically losing at a moment's notice if they lose their carry.
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>>171226890
wow i didn't know we had actual legal autist in this thread
>>
XP talents are so fucking shit that not even 40% bonus XP gain is worth taking unless you have an overpowered level 25 talent that's worth power leveling for. Being level 18 instead of level 15 on Tusk does NOTHING for your hero's effectiveness, and being higher level means that you give way higher rewards to anyone that kills you. Why would you ever want to get a few meaningless levels on Tusk and then feed twice as much XP to enemy cores that will actually benefit from the XP unlike your shitty support hero that doesn't scale with levels at all?
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>>171227212
He's absolutely right though.
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>>171223173
>not building AC on a strength right clicker

Unless someone else builds it there's no reason not to. I mean I guess you could get Shivas but it's a bit more than sub optimal.
AC is great for you, your team, and pushing.
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>>171227412
I wish we still had stats. Fuck Valve so fucking much for taking them away.
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>>171226890
I liked the rat meta

also sheever is cuter than kaci
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post pictures that stopped being a meme today or in a last half of the year
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>>171227441
NS has a shit ton of AS naturally.
in general you want to get damage over AS and utility over damage.
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>>171227892
You also want armor which AC gives a fuckton of. And AC helps your attack speed not be garbage when you're farming during daytime.

Like yeah, he does get a ton of free attack speed, but his stats aren't exactly top tier and you're not building agility so your armor is gonna be pretty weak otherwise.
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>>171227883
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>CM dies one too many times to alch and weaver
>lose one fight and lane of rax
>CM just starts sperging and afking
>we turn it around 4v5, and equalize the lane
>CM still fucking around
>lose a winnable game because 4v5
>report him, check his dotabuff
>CM spammer
> Lost Lost Lost Lost Won Lost Lost
>apparently tilted over 3 days of losing
How do you be a CM spammer and STILL get tilted over dying? Its the fucking meme of the hero, dies every time.
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>>171228041
there are other things you can get for armor, like shivas.
the question is what's good in this specific game as NS is all about utility.
i'd actually prefer a NS buy say a lotus orb if the enemy has a really good stun over an AS to purge the stun.
NS is about buying an aghs to get a distinct vission advantage and then buy whatever item fucks the other team the most.
unless they are full physical damage or have major armor problems making the -5 armor a problem for them it's hardly ever an AC.
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>>171226554
To farm gold nigga, jesus.
Alch octameme is for keeping lanes pushed all fucking day while you farm the jungle and give people aghs.

I could be wrong but doesn't the burn off illusions also give you hp from octa?
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>>171216990
did you try using DX9? What GPU anyways? it would have to be ancient
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how bad does it look

post activity
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>>171228778
>ac doesn't benefit the team at all when you are balls deep in the enemy team applying an aura
You are fucking retarded.
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>>171229054
Need to go play normals to feel better about myself, getting into forced 50 around the 4100MMR mark
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>>171225097
>>171226183
send the illus to lanes and camps that youre not farming and A-click them
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>>171228296
those are probably people who lane with CM and don't go force staff first, they disgust me too
with force staff and her slows/disables it's literally impossible to die unless you caught in a bad position or your team is losing badly
sometimes you go glimmer or ghost first though, but force staff is the best since that mana for additional nuke most time results in kill or saved life
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fix abaddon
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>>171229692
what's broken about him
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>>171229115
okay you might actually be retarded.
ac is better than nothing.
ac is not better than most other items of comparable cost.
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>>171229692
Try fixing the fact that ur shite first kid lmoa
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>tense game
>team starts playing like shit
>enemy team playing very well
>all chat "GG" "report my teema" "im afk end" etc.
>tell your team its all part of the plan
>hopefully another teammate does the same
>enemy team starts playing more aggressive and greedy because it seems we already gave up
>lead your team take advantage and punish
>comeback goldz
>now enemy team is triggered because they lost a big fight to shitty players
>your back in the game

team morale plays a big role boys never forget, its the secret to free mmr.
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>>171229054
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Things your teammates say that you know you will lose the game:

>I'm a smurf, let me [x]
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>mfw venomancer with +30 ms

You're fucking untouchable with this asshole. Kites for days.
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>>171230834
anything turkish
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>>171211493
94k with Autist Mage, almost 2 hour long game
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>>171231878
proof
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>>171229054
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>>171231976
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mem
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>>171231762
adelewd
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>region changes
>start winning like crazy
>undo region changes
>jajajajajjjaajajjajajajajajajajajaja
>binglaobokchoi
Fuck you valve.
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>>171222230
>>171222421
If only they would ban lel ouch as well and everything would be fine
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defense of the ancients two
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>>171219518
git gud
also play unranked until your gbp is above 9k
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>he thinks being banned on 4 chan means anything or that you can no longer post

hi leddit
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Last 9 ranked games I've played, I've only won 1. I've gone from 650mmr up 1200, now I've gone down to 800mmr. It's impossible to win a game.
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>>171233316
>I've gone from 650mmr
How is that even possible?
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*blocks your path*
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>>171233453
Calibrating at 900mmr and playing on SEA servers.
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>>171233453
>there is a real trench out there, sub 1k. When i was first calibrating I was playing with 300 mmr scrubs and my name was highlighted as highest mmr even though I was TBD, so they guy that usually had the highest mmr picked my hero before me then walked down mid and fed for 40 minute straight because he was so assblasted I was a higher mmr than him and only TBD.


Absolute trench.
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>>171233208
>not having 86.67% winrate with techies in ranked
>2016+1
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>>171228778
You could get a Shivas but ehhh. NS doesn't really have a problem being kited, and he benefits better from an AC than a Shivas in most any matchup.
Again, I was against an ET last game so I needed armor, and my team also needed armor, and attack speed never hurts either. Shivas is real situational, I can't imagine a ton of situations I'd really want it given the meta shift and the heroes I play it just never really finds its way into my inventory. I mean I almost never play int carries so that's the main reason. I like it on Dark Seer but I am honestly awful with the guy.
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How much gold do you get for destroying the ancient?
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>>171233316
ded?
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Sand King is pretty balls to the wall. I dunno why it took me so long to try him out.
He farms fast, disables forever, and his ult is uh.... okay his ult is fairly trash honestly. It's so hard to get a good ult off and the damage it does is not particularly outstanding. I mean if you land a good one it definitely turns fights but it's so hard to do so unless the enemy team is braindead or something.

Should I be rushing Blink or Veil first on him?
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>>171233818
how can you be
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>>171233969
625
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>>171234170
you channel up ult then blink in and use your q to stun or channel up ult and use your q to rush in and land a stun.

His skill ceiling is so low most people look like they know what they are doing on sand king.
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>>171234309
Well I was born, didn't really have a choice in it.
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>>171233716
the lower mmr you have the more you are self concious about it, people get so assblasted when you call them out on their low mmr
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>>171234382
Sure, that's the easy part. I mostly mean actually hitting more than 1 person with it though. The AoE feels tiny.
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vector targeting when?
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>>171234682
what's that
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>>171223524
lion with a shadow blade and five aether lenses
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Post Grindin Tunes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-dCSEX08Bs
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>>171194942
It's called Lotus Orb
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKO6JHYZWNc
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>>171235454
>no dagon
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wow or dota
wow or dota
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>>171203505
If he was the "face of dota" he would've had an arcana already.
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>>171235724
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyuHTfKY7L4
Seems a bit tacky, get your priorities straight anon
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>>171236448
I think he means he's the literal face of dota, as in he's the hero premiered in the art and stuff.
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How do I Veno?
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>>171236993
Fuck up the enemy offlaner then fuck off to the jungle when you get enough levels so you actually have decent enough exp and networth to affect the game beyond annoying enemy initiators.
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>>171236448
Pudge, Crystal Maiden, Juggernaut, Anti Mage, Windrunner, Axe, Invoker and Cystal Maiden are the quintessential Dota heroes, in the sense that they're what everyone can immediately recognize as belonging to Dota, and they all appeared consistently in Dota2 cinematics since the game was release, with the exception of voker, hes included just becuase league kiddies see 20 spells and go "WOW DOTA SO HARD".
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new patch killed roaming
how do i roam now
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>>171238124
I hate people with no personality that just parrot what their favorite streamers say.
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>>171238124
>battle furry jugg
>in 2017 the year of our lord
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>>171234585
when you blink in and use your q you are supposed to have good positioning and hit more then 1 person with your stun.


I guess the skill ceiling isnt THAT low
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>>171213810
need to see those ultimate orbs some day.
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>>171239373
I wish you apes would call skills by their names so I don't have to go through 4 replies to figure out what the fuck you're talking about.
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>>171211714
>>171211937
Hey anon, sorry for the delay. I had to do some stuff once I got home and I was kinda busy.

https://my.mixtape.moe/jewxpq.rar

Here's everything on DotaCouch's patreon. Ironically enough the url has "jew" on it. Fitting, I suppose.

Enjoy!
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why is le tricky toad adding splitpushing back into the game
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>>171240021
Splitpush looks pretty good this patch, because of the armor changes to towers
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>>171239373
I'm talking about his ult. The aoe on it feels really small, the enemy team has to clump like motherfuckers if you want to hit more than one or two dudes at the most, and it's super easy to get out of.
It feels like the weakest skill overall, comparing its long cooldown to the fact you have to channel and its mediocre damage, it just feels weak.
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>>171240021
Because he tried Deathmatch of the Ancients and it was awful.
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>>171239841
>.rar
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>>171239028
40% cleave now, with mag that's a 90% cleave
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>>171240218
What's the problem? It's quite a big folder.
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>>171200487
he meant that he was taking the universal title from goldberg at wrestlemania
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>>171240228
>Have a Mag on your team
>you can get 65% cleave from mag
>You still want a battle fury
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>>171240021
Considering how many plebs consider Ti3 to be the apex of DotA, splitpushing might be the way to get them to actually play the shitty game.
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>jakiro gets a remodel
>spells still have more backswing than they themselves last

Epic. This hero is fucking ass to play and his Aghs is awful and his talents are awful and his passive is awful.
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>>171240461
Then I'd have 105% cleave, and if I omnislash a good RP, they're done

although they all DC'd after gyro raged out
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>>171207345
Kill yourself you fucking redditshit
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>>171240759
Anon, you are wasting 4k gold to get an item that mag gives to you as ability.
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>>171240759
quit the fucking game reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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>>171240927
But it still gives me pretty reasonable stats and regen for jugg and stacks with the other cleave, unless they changed the cleave mechanic stacking, there's a fair difference from 50% cleave and 90% cleave
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>>171241062
>Battlefury
>gives stats
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>>171241264
damage* whatever meng

do you've any idea how fast the jungle or a wave gets cleared with battlefury+treads?
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>>171240557
>his passive

what did you mean by this?
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>>171241062
The numbers simply stack. For example, If you have two battlefuries and mag Empower, then you will be cleaving for a total of 130%.

Should also mention that each battlefury or ability that you have that adds cleave, is its own instance of damage. So, for example, if you are a TA, and you take cleave damage from an opponent who has 3 battlefuries, you will lose 3 instances of refraction.
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>>171226183
If only that young turtle knew what a sad and shitty long life it'll have on this world.
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>>171241430
Liquid Fire or whatever his attack modifier is.
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Is monkey king balanced?
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>>171241673
He's still broken as shit
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>>171230557
>"free" mmr
>have to play mind games and outskill them
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>>171241631
>2k17 nudota
>not going oldschool builds

What an absolute pleb.
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is bf naix a new meme or something?

3/4 of my last naixs build this shit, and when i played it, my mid told me to buy it

4.2k
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>>171242002
>mfw I did jungle into radiance ancients on lifestealer
>now people can waste their spells on the scary dragon before I pop out and mutilate them
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quit and uninstall this game
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r.i.p. my main man lone druid

IceFrog went full retard and nerfed rabid in a futile attempt to remove ranged lone druid and removed true form + bear builds instead

i made this spicy meme in memoriam

2012-2017
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11 losses to 1 win now
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>>171197352
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>>171242730
stop it anon
queue for unranked, pick SB, put some nice music you like in the background and play for fun for one game
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>Be 4.5k
>show my 2.8k party mmr
>queue game
>see retard i've played with before, who is rager/thrower/etc.
>"watch out, [other player] is cancer to play with"
>me: Alright this game is a loss
>retard: you have 2.8k mmr, how are you even playing here. Im midas afk jungle
>[other player] takes mid, feeds, rage buy backs, feeds intentionally, abandons

Dota 2 at four thousand matchmaking rating points
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Patch 7.04

>Can only tp on shrines if they're not on cooldown.

Would this fix shrines?
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>>171240153
well you are right it does not do very much damage, and it falls off in late game. But the point of sand king is to be the initiator for the team and let the cores clean up afterwards. Veil SK is a meme and SK will never be more than a pos 3 core.
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>play single draft
>some heroes are not faded

eh?
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>>171243792
>Shrines are now removed from the game

This would fix shrines for good
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>>171244646
>Brew master not faded

spotted the ruse
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>>171244775
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>>171244775
I thought they changed it so you were able to see the heroes available but there's more than 30 non-faded heroes
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>>171243354
>tfw mmr won't reset
>>
HOW DO I MAKE SPECTRE WORK?!
Every other hero seems to be better either early, mid or late game.
Anti mage, feels stronger at all points in the game.
PA feels stronger at all points in the game.
But as soon as I pick spectre it literally feels like she is good for nothing and no item build really makes her shine.
THE FUCK DO YOU DO WITH THIS STUPID SLUT?!
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>>171245312
Build radiance and lose
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>>171245743
at what fucking point, scenario, situation, does spectre actually feel powerful?!
It seems with other carries you farm to become the carry of the game.
With spectre you farm to become mediocre at best.
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>listen to Basshunter Dota
>haven't played Dota 2 in 3 years
>calibrated at 4.8k, played to 6k in a couple of months after ranked matchmaking got released and took a small break and then made a new smurf and played it to 6.8k within a couple of months
>want to go back to Dota 2
>realize normal matchmaking is dead with retards and shitters
>everyone is playing solo ranked
>absolutely despise ranked because it killed the joy of playing in a full party with friends and having fun against other full parties

Seriously what was the fucking point of ranked WHY DID VALVE FUCKING RUIN IT, WAS IT IXDL
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>>171245881

Split push meta will make her better imo

Easier to get pick offs with ult and passive

Also seems like dagger plus isolate could secure kill on solo offlaner
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Holy fuck. I'm pretty noob. And I just carried the fuck out of game that was lost rax 15 min in. I defended high ground multiple times then solo took t4s and throne through backdoor protection after s team wipe

I qualify this achievement by saying I was playing le brain dead meme sword carry.

Can't wait to post match id here so d2g can tell me how shit I am at laning and rotating (I already know that)

I went phase Aquila mael manta butterfly mjoll skadi boys and had an abyssal queued up to replace Aquila when I won fwiw.
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>>171246172
Bots not boys

And I took throne at 52 min. They took Megas and got team wiped at 50 min.

Final kill score was like 62-30 them and I was 17/3/12
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>>171243792
>>171244737
Shrines are pretty fine
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>>171246030
>6.8k
I'm jealous of your skills anon.
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>>171246172
>>171246381
good for you
heres a tony
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>>171246878

>morse code filename

thats next level autism
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>>171246878
One game of if dota and already 1/4 of the way to an egot
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>>171245881
Not every hero is gonna be good or useful. Spectre had her time in the spotlight and now she's a dead hero
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>>171246994
thanks i try to stay fresh
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>>171246994
Translation?
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>>171246032
>>171247063
But I want to play her and not be TRASH! SURELY there is some fucking meme that will help me do this?
I mean how can something this shit exist and not get buffed, surely I am missing something, something that makes her good.
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>>171247236
what are your builds?
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>>171247236

Kill solo laners in lane

Kill solo split pushers mid game

Win late game team fights with Tammy radiance illusions.
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>>171244646
>lpq
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>>171247328
I have tried many variations of different builds.
Too tired or upset to list them all, so if you would be so kind to give me your idea instead.

>>171247368
>Win late game team fights with Tammy radiance illusions.
Radiance is only good for farming fast. I have yet to see a squishy enough team where radiance did any significant damage.

>Kill solo laners in lane
>Kill solo split pushers mid game
I find a lot of other heroes to be much stronger and I can only pull that off solo if I have massive farm advantage.
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>>171242479
nice meme anon

saved :^)
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>>171247531
I play SD unironically
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>>171248024
>I have yet to see a squishy enough team where radiance did any significant damage.
it cancels blinks and healing and half forces mkbs on enemy team
the farm is only half the reason you get it
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>>171248274
>it cancels blinks
True, but that implies I use R before a teamfight happens and my team goes in to take advantage of that. This rarely happens though.
>and healing
situational
>half forces mkbs on enemy team
Not once have I seen it force a mkb response form the enemy team.

>the farm is only half the reason you get it
It's the only reason I have seen that consistently works in every game.
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>HOTD literally gets nerfed to be less stat efficient than a fucking magic wand
>Pros and higher MMR players still fucking build it Are they retarded? Why not just build a fucking drums? It's so cheap now.
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>>171248680
>>Pros and higher MMR players still fucking build it Are they retarded?
They have high enough skill to actually use it's active to lots of shit low mmr players can't.
Like farming in another lane while farming in the jungle, or using actives and auras well.
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>>171247206
TONY
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>>171248680
It's not the stats that makes the item good
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>tfw lost 8 games since the new update cause XD there split pusing and my tp is on cooldown

fuck this game
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>>171246030
>6k couple of months in
yeah fuck off there were like 3 people with 6k at that point

fucking 4k trash with their powerfantasies
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>>171191418
its like every patch they try to make the game worse? why do you think they do this
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>>171239028
>>171240461
>>171240927
>>171241009
Werks fine for me 8)

Suppose mjolnir is fine too
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>>171250181
>get carried by a sniper and clock
>"look guys i did it!!"
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>>171250380
Dota 2 is a team effort you fucking cuck
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>>171250380
I'm 11-2 and have the highest building damage on my team
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>>171246172


match id 3059305554
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>>171247236
>not be trash!
>trash!
>!
kys
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>>171250598
You spent most of early game farming, while your clock and sniper probably won the game for you at that point. However, you guys didn't push and continued to farm and push your lead even further ahead. You have lower damage than a clockwork while you are a juggernaut.
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>>171250659
>kys
Remove yourself.
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Why does Undying get +90 gpm talent at lvl 10 while other heroes get +60?
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>>171250838
>remove yourself.
mc fucking fly a kite my main dude
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>>171251550
Travel back and time and perform an abortion on yourself.
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>>171250598
>>171250819
>find game
>watch replay
>You farm all game, just go omnislash someone if convenient

Top lel
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>>171251816
If my birth was so terrible wouldn't someone have went back in time to stop it by now?

check mate, anon. Now get the fuck off my board.
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>>171251924
And that's how I got to 4200MMR

>>171250819
But farming the items nessisary for jugg to survive a team fight with LD/viper as well as pushing is equally important
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>>171252057
Perhaps you don't understand me.

You're only use was omni slashing. Your support duo as well as the clockwerk made it so they couldn't touch the sniper if they wanted to. The axe was the only chance and he fed. Your items made no difference in this game
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>>171252463
I'd get wrecked trying to do straight up fighting
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>>171252057
mmr inflation is real, huh
>>
>>171253610
who would have thunk
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>>171211493
FUCKING TECHIES
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>>171241673
pretty weak currently, overnerfed
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you think this is over, goy?

I'll be back and stronger than ever before.
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>>171252057
>4200 mmr
>NA

d-dropped
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Are scripts a thing in this game? Was playing against an Anti mage who would manta every single one of my magic missle stuns without fail
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>>171254535
>He thinks manta dodge is impressive

sure is summerfag in here.
>>
>>171254535
>manta dodgind is hard
hello 1k

srsly tho, after I got a 120 hz monitor I feel like i can manta dodge anything, it's very fucking easy
>>
>>171254681

It's not that impressive, but I even tried to baiting his manta and failed
>>
>patch is miniscule with no major changes to heroes or items
>over 2 hours of patch analysis

Really? You're really going to cram in two hours of talking about +2 str talent or an extra 5% experience gain? This patch was underwhelming as fuck.
>>
>>171255072

Are you talking about purge?

He literally spent 30 minutes once talking about 7.00 changes to drums
LITERALLY
THIRTY
MINUTES
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>>171241649
Liquid Fire is one of the most cancerous orbs to deal with in lane, short of Viper's Poison Attack.

You don't know what you're even talking about.
>>
>it's another "someone randoms a pos4 roamer doom and jungles with him all game instead" episode
>we win the games 5v4
>frantically defend towers vs splitpushing NP
>even when he's right next to a tower which is being attacked he's jungling
>finally decides to do something after he gets midas+sblade (25mins)
>we win because outplays
>"HAHA what a great game you guys lol look at me LITERALLY UNSTOPPABLE!!"
endme
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uhhh dough turds?
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>now exclusively play jakiro as a GoodSniper
>70% winrate

Am I ahead of the memecurve?
>>
Does CCnC have downs? He kinda looks like it (no offense)
>>
>>171255954
I just played Jakiro because I'm trying to get used to a new mouse. It's everything I ever wanted.
The range, the splitpushing, the memepyre, the atk slow
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>>171255956
he has klineifers syndrom (some shit like that)
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>>171250636
lol I had like 37k net worth while everyone else was in the teens.
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>>171251427
Cause he farms the slowest out of almost every initiation/teamfight hero.

Decay does shit damage vs. creeps.

He gains less than 1 Agility point per level and rarely builds for Attack Speed. And his normal attack damage is nothing to write home about. So he's not going to clear creep waves or camps easily unless he gets Iron Talon.

Have you played as Undying when there's too much down-time in a game and you're not constantly looking for teamfights? It's boring, and you're poor. If you get Guardian Greaves + force staff/glimmer cape in slow, non-fighting games, you've pretty much peaked - any luxuary items like AC, Shivas, or Lotus Orb won't come cheaply unless the enemy team just relentlessly feeds you.

Hence, he get shitloads of FREE gold with his talent.
>>
>zai's fucking music

I didn't think it could get worse than rtz

bravo
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>>171255309
I haven't even looked at Purge, he's probably around 6 hours.

>>171255701
It's fucking dogshit. Anyone that maxes it first is a shitter, it does no fucking damage at all. If they max it and you lose lane, congrats, you're retarded. His only semi decent spell is his Q, the backswing on Ice Path is fucking retarded and Liquid Fire is only good for pushing down towers.
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I think I played against my first bought account. I was playing slark against a aggressive trilane with troll rubick and mirana. Pretty scary lane for me considering we had a retard last pick jungle legion. I ended the game at 30 minutes and the troll died 16 times with 250 gpm. I have never seen a position 1 have such a shit gpm at 5k before. I thought a lost the game too because I was struggling to get farm early.
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>>171254535
Just git gud
>>
>Satoshi sperging on Draskyll stream
I know you're reading this
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Why would one be a goy for buying a skin that supports a free game?

Asking for a friend
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>>171204024
Carry venge is good. Her level 20 & 25 talent is insane. Once you get to level 6 with dragon lance you can just push down every tower in the game and just win because carry Venge 5 man is so good.
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>>171257914
shut up carry venge is shit.
it doesnt matter that her talents are good, all other carries carry harder than her in the end game and pub teams are too dumb to use her strenght in the early game to take towers/stabilish a big lead.
period.
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>>171243149
I played 3 unranked games and lost them all. Have I been cursed?

That's a total of 14 games, with only 1 win.
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>>171257504
because the arcana is shit and is hardly different from PA's
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>>171258143
I've won plenty of games with her as a core. She's bad very illusion heros and stuff like blink troll/slark but you don't pick her into that. She's great at solo kills and as a team she can take all towers and rosh really easily. Also you can't compare her to another solo carry because she behaves like drow and gives the entire team a damage boost with her passive and skills.
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>>171258740
Here, have a picture too.
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>>171258887
>800 mmr
Just pick slark every game and 1 v 5 with shadow blade at 12 minutes. You could easily win every game that way until like 4k jesus.
>>
welp my entire city is burning down right now. i want to play a game but idk if im going to be evacuated or not.
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>>171259031
This is exactly why Dota 2 needs to go mobile.
>>
>>171258887
You need to play carry or mid
>>
>>171259031
raleigh is burning, waht did swindlez do?
>>
is Pudge neutered
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>>171259404
no, u just need to be less shit to land hooks now
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>>171259404
>random pudge
>shadow fiend bullies me when I miss hooks that usually would hit because I'm not throwing them too far right

Y-y-you too
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>>171259404
He can still run at you with rot from level one, he's fine
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Guys if I'd stream 5k+ dota would you watch me?
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>>171260235

>weaver, ember, luna, slark, pudge ONLY
>final destination
>the mmr bracket

Ehhh
>>
>>171260438
i pretty much play sf, clinkz, lifestealer or support or something
>>
>>171260438
>>171260485
and sometimes invoker if im feeling like stylin
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>>171260235
read the chat, answer questions, use a mic, stream constantly, don't be negative, don't be a whiny little cucked passive-aggressive white bitch. do that and you'll have a decent/enjoyable stream that could grow
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>>171258887
>that mmr

bro I am so sorrry

:^)
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>>171258887
Invite me to your games. I wanna see what 800mmr is like.
Wait no, I think I'm way too high an mmr for that. Isn't max difference allowed 2k?
>>
https://twitter.com/zai_2002/status/842593076828807168

dotards?
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>>171216765
>>171216765
>>171216765

JUGGERRRNAAAUUUUUUTTT
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>>171262020
>le edgy filthy frank fan

100% reddit
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>>171261936
I play with one of friends friends sometimes and his mmr is 400. Usually the lobbies I get are like 3kish and he chain feeds. I wish I could experience 400 mmr dream. I think he throws games intentionally though.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/127137348
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>>171262180
>eating ass is a reddit thing

Explain
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>>171262396
>I think he throws games intentionally though

Who doesn't?
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>>171257504
Because valve makes metric shit tons of money off this game and I doubt even 5% goes towards improving it
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>>171256313
>Team doesn't want to team fight so you end up fucking around trying to get shit farm while waiting for your retard team to get jumped
Worst feeling.
Honestly does ANY hero farm shittier than undy?
>>
http://i.imgur.com/vEPSrZ3.png

why are you not spamming abaddon/omni/necro/wk until you're 5k d2g? it's like you want to be in the trench forever
>>
>>171262868
because 90% of the time, there's no one who can push in the team.
>>
>>171261301
but I just wanna banter with some of you guys while I play
>>
>>171262868
Jokes on you.

I only play unranked and only with my daily hero challenge heroes.

I don't even play this shit game if I can't make money from the compendiums.
>>
>>171249021
>>171248680
Are you two retarded? It's still an MS buff aura, camp stacking, mobile ward, extra farm, extra stun root slow purge etc etc, the fucking stats were just a bonus.
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>mason's profile pic
What a man of patrician taste.
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>>171260235
>>171260438
>>171261301
fuck it

twitch.tv gwefix
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4k cores r autistic
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>ban juggernaut
>Some guy chimps out and feeds mid
Gonna have a month of solid upset autists.
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>>171263301
too emotional about the game desu
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MASON IS STREAMING
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I was like 2 seconds off of a game winning call, just needed to wait a bit longer for my team to be there, although they could have started moving to rosh a lot earlier.

the SF at least had already bought back

God damn it.
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I won my 15th game and had to carry my cotton brained teammates the entire time. Is having fun supposed to make you feel tired and despondent?
>>
>play first game ever as void

>aa supp literally sits in lane and does nothing as wd constantly zones me

>enigma jungles and doesnt even help stop ganks when hes jungling the camp right next to our t1 (lol aa was never gonna pull anyway)

>solo offlane luna for some reason against ld

>actually get our team back into game with chrono triple kill of them at greedy rosh

>teammates ember and engima literally walk into multiple chronos

>lose

i keep telling myself im having fun playing this game but its so depressing
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>>171239841
ty based anon, u are broest of bros!
>>
https://twitter.com/ESPN_Esports/status/842461030018080769
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>TFW you always know when the enemy team is roshing but your team never wants to react
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> juggernaut wins arcana vote
> valve has to come up with a story for it

What would you have written if it was up to you?
>>
>>171264572
Has Jugg ever appeared in a comic?
>>
>>171246030
>>171249689
was about to call him out on this too

3 months into the release of ranked i think the highest rated players were only 5500-5900
>>
>Never play party mmr
>calibrated party mmr at 2.4k
>my solo is 4.5k
>i show party mmr
>people flame me for being a 2k retard when they should know that i couldn't be playing with them if i actually was 2k
>>
>>171264572
Replace ancient spirits with ancient evil and go full on meme mode.

Release a short JRPG style custom game featuring juggernaut and Dante from the Devil May Cry series.
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>jungle juggernaut that pauses the game and yells to report me if i call him to a fight
>i have to tell PA to get wand/raindrops etc against the batrider offlane
>of course, the party literally just flames the entire team
>>
>>171262521
apparently everyone but me

I just played a game where we had a techies and held to 70 minutes, and we had 3 SEAmonkeys on our team. Our Centaur had hearts + ac + shiva + BoT and got fed up and threw the game by intentionally feeding, buying back, and then intentionally feeding again so the rest of us were doomed to lose vs invoker tornado spam.

We literally were so close to winning as soon as we got a wipe on the enemy team and he just chose for our team to eat the -25.

Holy shit.
>>
>>171264572
He legit died and his ancestors snatched his body.
Juggernaut is dead but The Juggernaut is still alive.
>>
>>171265194
>SEA

don't underestimate the 4-core throw lineup prevalent in that region.
>>
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>his waifu doesn't have a thicc penis
>>
>>171198497
>tfw didn't start playing Dota until 2014 when I got bored with tf2

what was it like to have fun?
>>
>>171264572
I would make it edgy like Juggernaut uses a cursed katana. Each crit he gets in a short amount of time changes him to more of a yokai from the sword feeding off his power. Kill leave behind a ghost of the hero he killed for a short amount of time. Omnislash has tiers that represent how many souls his sword has taken. You unlock different styles based on omnislash kills.
>>
>>171264076
>Solo offlane Luna
>When you are FV
Really activates my almonds.
>>
SingSing will sub in for Secret at Kiev
>>
Next hero better be a robot hero, we dont have enough of those
>>
>>171239841
doing God's wor-
>.rar file
nigga pls,all the cool kids are using 7z these days
>>
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>>171266496
No next hero has to be an angel hero

>list of edgy demonic heroes
Doom
Shadow Fiend
Shadow demon
Terrorblade
Underlord
LC with Arcana

>List of angelic heroes
Skywrath kinda looks like one. Not really.
Omni sorta
>>
>>171267020
slutty valkyrie hero when?
>>
>queue us west and us east
>haven't gotten a us east game in a week

is it a honeypot
>>
>>171197958
>he was nerfed
>2% less spell amp
>now his chains have a 6 second cooldown with octarine instead of 5.1 seconds with an octarine + cooldown reduction talent.

In return he gets a 1000 magic absorb shield AND 5 second root.
>>
>>171267242
Skywrath Mage
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a Wraith King arcana that turns him into a skeleton
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DOTARDS

You will remember some weeks ago you where posting this shitty game in here and made me have to beat it again. Well I just did so you can all eat a dick.
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This dude spoke chinese over his mic, why do they play on US servers?

And what the hell is this account? an MMR farming account? or a bought account? because he was god awful and didn't build BKB vs a Pugna/Ember/Centaur/AA/Riki as Tinker
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I'm truly baffled at the quality of players I've encountered at mid 4k. This game has dropped a huge margin in player ability or the game lost a lot of active talented players since I last played before 7.~~
If they aren't blatant bought accounts you still become suspect because of the sheer ignorance of players. Map position, ability usage, rotations they have absolutely non of these skills. I know we all have bad games but its not just an out draft or out played situation. It's just that player is god fucking awful and you wonder how the fuck he even got to 4k.

>tfw you're in the same bracket
>>
>>171268237
the game defense of the ancients two (2) is currently on its beta phase of development so you cannot criticize the things that may happen and things they do in it.
>>
>>171268401
4k is actually the worst fucking bracket in existence
>>
>>171268401
I just keep telling myself at least I'm no longer 3.5k
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>play Dota with best friend since high school
>wins/losses almost exclusively happen in streaks
>most losses in a row before was 6, almost made him quit
>now we've lost 12 games in a row, two weeks of red
>tell him to pick abaddon because he's got the highest winrate this patch
>All T1s down and 10-0 for our team
>two guys on the enemy team abandon
>bloodseeker gets absurd amounts of farm from midas + pickoffs on idiot vengeful spirit
>we lost a game I called "unloseable" 5 minutes in
>he's uninstalling the game
>no interest in any other games so we'll probably never talk to each other again

I fucking hate this game.
>>
>>171268759
>Abaddon

Destroying friendships since /d2g/
>>
>>171268759
I don't get why people uninstall after a loss. You play a game like dota because you like the mechanics and skill involved not because you always win.
If you really like the game shouldn't you be motivated to find out why you lost and to get better?
My take on it.
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>>171239028
they buffed it again, is really worth it if you can farm fast in early
>>
>>171267020
Just wait for someone to create a Pit ripoff set for Skywrath and you're good.
>>
>>171270132
Dota's only fun if you win
>>
171270757

migration time folks
>>
>>171270776

>>171270757

Whoops
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>>171240021
Because Bruno loves Bulldog that much
Fatso has given up on Dota and Frozen Amphibian wants him back
>>
>>171267242
Vengeful Spirit is one according to her lore
>>
>>171255956
CCnC has bad oral posture, he never has his tongue on his palate, I'm assuming he has had this habit all through child hood, so he just leaves his mouth open all the time. His upper jaw never grew forwards because of it so his whole face just grew downwards.

Look at his stream for a few seconds and you can see his mouth wide open always.
>>
>>171264572
Juggernaut was never the man, it was the cursed mask with the a righteous spirit who possesses the next person to wear the mask.

Now that the mask is broken, some of the spirit's sealed power is unleashed, manifesting as a spirit dragon. The Juggernaut now walks the land, entering into battle after battle, not caring who he fights, so that the mask may eventually be destroyed, and the righteous spirit freed to do as it wills.
>>
>>171193076
try sfmsandwich instead senpai
>>
>>171239841
thanks senpai

wow the amount of animated stuff is sparse actually
>>
>>171265194
>SEA

there's your problem, time to move to yurop
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>>171276743
>>
>>171209028

Wraith King, also viable shut the fuck up
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>>171211493
62k

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