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Thread #2475

Last thread: >>171081193

New summoning mechanic: Link Summon
Explanation: https://ygorganization.com/memberdrawing6/

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
>YGOPro (Windows): http://www.mediafire.com/file/baj95caex5si0n3/ygopro-1.033.A-Percy.exe
>YGOPro (Mac): http://www.mediafire.com/file/jpok5ejx0fvlu5k/ygopro-1.033.A-Percy-nopics.dmg
>High Quality YGOPro Images: http://www.ygopro.co/Forum/tabid/95/g/posts/t/23339/The-Ultimate-HQ-Card-Project
>Manual Card Updates (place inside the expansions folder): https://github.com/Ygoproco/Live2017
Useful Links:
>Current Official Rulebook, http://www.yugioh-card.comen/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
>Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/
>Official /dng/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

>Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugio.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page

>Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/

>OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
>TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists

>TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/
Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Starter Deck 2017 (March 25th)
●OCG: Code of Duelist (April 15th)
●OCG: Cyverse Link Structure Deck (June 17th)

●TCG: Duelist Saga (March 31st)
●TCG: Structure Decks Machine Reactor & Dinosmasher’s Fury (April 13th)
●TCG: Maximum Crisis (May 5th)
●TCG: Pendulum Evolution (June 23rd)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:

● READ THE OP
● Read carefully the cards
● Lurk and read the archives
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play
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>No leaks tonight
Well, maybe my cards will be here in the morning.
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Be nice to Pilica, or she will haunt youuuuu.........
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Can anybody else log into Troll and Toad? I think the site is down but I'm not sure.
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I don't understand how AI thinks
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GLORY
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>>171180540
To the Wicked Avatar
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B A N L I S T
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W H E N
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There is no better feeling than having Crystal Bell, a Raidjin, a Mechaba, and Crystal Wing on the field against an ABC player and targeting their graveyard ABC then banishing their only set Storming Mirror force with their own effect.
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>>171181251
>Thalmor
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What are some good tradebait cards? Cards that look fancy in a folder but are worth jack shit.
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>>171182635
D/D/D cards.
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>>171182635
>tfw you remembered they tried to replicate the OG God cards in GX
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>>171182913
>Implying they didn't try to replicate the OG god cards in DM
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>>171182913
>>171183154
Did they learn their lesson after 5D's?
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>>171181078
July perhaps.
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>>171183267
Weren't number monsters and the four dragons just a redo of the whole Gods concept though?
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Collector Pack 2017 rumors:
No cards from DM
HEROs
Timelords
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>>171178418
>DuelingNetwork
Do you think it was a good thing that the creator died of cancer before he saw his site took down because of C&D?
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>>171184846
got proof of that there buddy?
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I'm trying to remember a card its a trap equip card that prevents your monster from being destoryed but makes it so you can't attack directly.
it might be anime only, I'm not too sure.
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>>171185471
Safe Zone?
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>>171185471
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>>171185529
>>171185570
that's it thanks i was thinking of using it in a buster blader deck
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Someone recommend me a fun 2006 era Fusion or Ritual focused deck.
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>>171185769
Now I feel retarded for not thinking about using it in mine.
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PRINT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Continuing from the previous two Twitter Lores.

機怪との戦いに明け暮れる青年。

森の周辺に生息する機怪蟲が突如凶暴化した際にも、一歩も引かずに結界への侵入を防ぎ続けた。

常に先陣を駆けるその雄姿は森の民を奮い立たせるが、本人はたった一人の妹を守る為だけにその槍を振るっている。

A young man whos spends all his time fighting Mekstrosities.

Even during the sudden rampage of the Mekstrosity Insects living around the forest, he stood his ground and prevented them from breaching the barrier.

His valiant form always being at the forefront is a source of inspiration for the denizens of the forest, but he wields his spear for the sake of protecting his sister.

機怪 = Mekstrosity, this is the Mechanical Yokai thing mentioned from last time. Eva translated this time around, and she liked the sound of the word. We’ll change it as more information becomes available. So consider it a placeholder name.
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>>171185974
New Insect archetype?
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>>171186631
might be an archetype that is multi-type Like naturia.
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>>171185974
>Mekstrosities
MORE MACHINES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171187913
They're not going to be machines.
They're going to be cyverse.
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>>171187946
shut up retard
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>>171184116
yeah, and was a brilliant one
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>>171188082
Someone's salty for no reason.
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>>171185974
I'm fucking sick of DT.
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Can't wait for the SUPER Prismatic cards to come
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>>171185974
Goddamn, looks like we actually are 2hu now
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>go on Dueling Book since it is finally up
>discord tripfags are shitposting on the message screen
I don't know if to be terrified or relieved.
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someone want to answer why raigeki has been printed in 9 different sets (2 in one set), is a 1 of, and the cheapest price to get one is over $20?
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/dng/
Post your ace monster
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>>171191673
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>tcg will never get the original burstinatrix art
y liff?
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>>171179862
It was for me last night.
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>Crystal Pendulums are dead before even became a thing on the TCG

F
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>>171191673

Also, for the guy who wanted my Crystron
decklist from the last thread

http://imgur.com/A1aLR5I
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>>171193916
Where's the Frogs?
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>>171194017
Too Poor to get the 2x Treatoad and Crystal Wing. My Paycheck is coming soon.
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dead card game
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Post card gore
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>>171196381
This has to have been made as a joke.
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>>171196381
card gore
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https://ygorganization.com/byebyezoodiaclove/
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>>171197476
>Drident and Barrage to 0, Ratpier to 1
>Stratos to 2
WILL STRATOS BE FREE IN THE TCG AGAIN??
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Forbidden:
The Tyrant Neptune
Zoodiac Drident
Zoodiac Barrage

Limited:
Witch of the Black Forrest
Zoodiac Ratpier
Blackwing – Gofu the Vague Shadow
Interrupted Kaiju Slumber

Semi-Limited:
Elemental HERO Stratos
Armageddon Knight
Fairy Tail – Snow
Goyo Guardian
Ignister Prominence, the Blasting Dracoslayer
Brionac, Dragon of the Ice Barrier
Fire Formation – Tenki
Brain Control

Unlimited:
Artifact Moralltach
Magician of Faith
D/D Lamia

Witch of the Black Forest’s text has been changed to make it less potent, but the specifics are unknown at the moment.

https://ygorganization.com/byebyezoodiaclove/
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>>171197560
>Forbidden:
>The Tyrant Neptune
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>>171197476
>>171197560
FUCK ZOO
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K

Z
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>>171197560
Today is a good day.
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>>171197560
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>>171197476
>https://ygorganization.com/byebyezoodiaclove/

REKT
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https://ygorganization.com/codeofthewild/

https://youtu.be/uUhTHABFq4s

OFFICIAL SHOWCASING/REVEAL
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>>171197560
>Limited: Blackwing – Gofu the Vague Shadow
Good to see Konami thinking ahead.
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>>171198094
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>>171197560
>Neptune meme killed
>Drancia banned
>Triangle banned
>Rat removed

ZOOFAGS ON SUICIDE W-

>Gofu limited
God dammit Konami!
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>>171198293
Gofu got limited because of links coming soon. Tokens can be used to summon link monsters.
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>>171197560
>Japan got TWO banlists while we got nothing
FUCK and fuck you, Konami from america
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>>171197560
Though.
Honestly.
When they hit Drancia and Rat they didn't really need to hit Barrage.
Those two are really what kept the deck from being mediocre rank 4 stacking with no real end goal in sight. (I mean a realistic goal, Wildbow)
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>>171197560

>OCG gets Witch back, TWO (2) Stratos, Ignisters, Brios, and Unlimited Moralltachs
>meanwhile, TCG Stratos is STILL banned, and KoA is too fucking lazy to unban and errata the numerous cards that were errata'd years ago

Fuck Konami of America SO DAMN MUCH.
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>>171198094
So no word on Konami enforcing new official playmats at tournaments?
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>>171197560
We finally got a banlist!
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>>171197560

Wasn't there a ban list year on April?

>Aprl 1

It's probably Konami rusing
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>>171198425
I know nigger. It just blows my opportunity to invest in Gofus is all.
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>>171198590
It's in V-Jump and I don't think Japs know what April Fool's Day is.
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>>171197560
bullhorn is safe, fairytail got hit :^)
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well so much for decks running 3 gofu+spiders+radiant to make plays

what's the next most splashable engine
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>>171198472
Yeah, Rat hits an Barrage gits woould've been enough, but this is a straight neutering
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>>171198848
Cosmic Compass
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>>171197560
Does the OCG have RotA Limited?
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>>171198879
Help control the Zoo population. Have your Zoos spayed or neutered.
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>>171197560
Meanwhile in America
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>>171197560
>tfw the devs actually listen to the Jap playerbase and kill the cancer
>meanwhile Tewart doesn't give a fuck about the TCG playerbase's opinions
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>>171197560
>The Tyrant Neptune
whyy
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>>171199168
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>>171199320
Have you been living under a rock nigga?
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>RURIMEME GOT BTFO

>GOFULINK.DEK GOT ABORTED

>STRATOS TO 2

>RAT TO 0.

Why is the OCG so based?
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>>171197560
They finally freed Stratos.
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>>171198973
shit eats your normal though, and bricks going first

hrm
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>>171199619

Rat will be at 1. Drident and Barrage are the cards that's got banned. Still great though.
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>>171199704
Scapegoat
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>>171197560
>Kaijus were TCG exclusive for a while
>Japs hit something from them in their list first
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>>171199605
Have been away from /dng/ and yugi for a while, so yeah.
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So what will be the new meta? Noids vs Draco?
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ahaha, all the fuckers who spent money in furries the archetype on suicide watch
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>>171197560
B A S E D
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E
D
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>>171197560
Is this actually enough to kill Zoodiacs?
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>That banlist
>Pendulum Evolution was a SD (not that I care about pendulums but turning it into a set was a very shit move by Jewart)
>Less jewery with card rarities and sets

I hate koa so much. OCG is toadally awesome
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>>171199858
>Infernoids
Play that Left Arm Offering and see what happen.
Infernoids are dead in OCG, literally 0 tournament representation.
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>>171200007
More than enough.
Only 1 rat so they can't drancia/any other r4
Drancia herself is banned.
Their best starting card in barrage is banned.
Kaiju slumber getting hit also hurts the kaiju variant.
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>>171200007

Completely.

1 Rat means you can only use the foolish effect.

Top and Barrage means no more no normal wombo combos.

Drident means they lose their defense.

Broadbull will still have his niche of being a generic searcher but the deck is gone.
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>>171200007
>no barrage
>1 rat
>kill drancia too
Pretty much.
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is brilliant fusion the next best link summoner?
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>>171197560
>Neptune banned
>now that we have an easier to summon alternative coming in the next pack

BUY CODE OF THE DUELIST
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>>171199770
shit's good, but again doesn't let you make any plays

i think i'll try shoving in the predaplant engine with brilliant+instant fusion into my cloudian link spam deck and see how it goes, there's some synergy between scorpio and lapis
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>>171200131
Because of Zoods ruling over everything
Don't discount how long they managed to hold a portion of tops while Foes/DD/everyone else died off

And now while everyone has to find what to play now they still have Lawnmowing at 3. Ash is a bitch, but it's not like Cherries completely killed BA, remember?
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>>171198848
Gofu
Skyblaster
Dandylion
Parent Seahorse
Doppelwarrior
Scapeghost
Cosmic Compass
Scapegoat

Everything else just isn't worth it.
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>>171197560
THEY KILLED THE RAT
FUCKING FINALLY
MOVING TO JAPAN RIGHT NOW
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>>171200379

>Using pendulums in link format.
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IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN
>TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
>TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
>TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
>TUMBLING DOWN
TUMBLING DOWN
press F
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>>171199168
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>>171200693
eff
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>>171200597
>Using any method from the extra deck besides Xyz in link format

It's like they want to lose
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You have five seconds to justify why you aren't used Metal Armored Bug in your deck.
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>>171200597
>Using pendulums in link format.
Come again?
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>>171199771
aww nigger you are rite
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HAHAHAHAHAHA I cannot imagine the amount of butthurt coming from zoofags.
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>>171200482
Infernoids still had less representation than Metalfoes, True King, and Windwitch Invoked.
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>>171200847
>Pendulum zones part of the 5 spell and trap zones
>Can only pendulum summon 1 monster from the extra deck
>Pendulums whole playstyle is blowing up their scales and filling the extra deck so they can swarm and revive as constant xyz and fusion material, it doesn't work for synchro because all pendulum tuners have loads of restrictions in place to keep that from happening

Pendulums are deader than dead, they lost their whole playstyle.
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>>171200789
xyz are fucking garbage now that zoo was castrated
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>>171200801
I play Superheavy Samurai
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How fucked is your deck when links come out /dng/?

Me very
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>>171200969
Yeah, I bet they totally didn't see it coming.
Konami killing a deck after 2 formats of total domination? Who would have thought?
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>>171200789

>impying Xyz aren't trash as well with the fall of Zoo.
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>>171201224
You tell me anon, it hurts to be a 5ds fan
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>>171201152
What does that have to do with Servant Venom Dragon?
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>>171201420
>2 DARK Pendulum Monsters
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>>171197560
>Gofu banned
>MFW some jap player posted a pic of his 60 gofu and translate said "ready for links"
Top fucking kek
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>>171201526
It's not banned though.
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>>171201526
Gofu was limited
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>>171201309
You are right, it was expected. But I don't think they imagined the overkill, rat at 1 and drancia banned would have been enough
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>>171200496
>Mentions shit cards like Skyblaster, Compass and Scapeghost
>Doesn't mention Brillant Fusion
Shit list

>>171201152
Zefra are still alive but yeah, I agree.

>>171201420
>2 Dark Pendulum Monster
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>>171201170
>>171201330
>XYZ are dead
Nice meme
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>>171201345
>it's a synchro bab pretends he's the only victim when it comes to link monsters episode

These reruns are getting old.
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>>171201481
>>171201707
Welp, fuck reading amirite?
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>>171201796
>Implying power gap isn't gonna fuck this card over.
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>>171201616
>>171201636
>Expecting a ygo player to know how to read
Yeah I fucked up
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>>171201481
>>171201707
>implying you have to Pendulum Summon Pendulum Monsters
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>>171201796
Right, you can still play... oh wait, ABC is dead too.
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>>171201936
Yeah, I'm sure normal summoning those 2 Darkvrms will surely work.
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>>171201887
>pretends he's the only victim
Where, you projecting faggot?
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For old times sake, I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna synchro summon Shooting Star Dragon and go from Pendulum to xyz, to fusion to synchro all in one turn and you can't stop me.
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>ocg gets two banlists before we get a single one
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>>171202081
>projecting

I swear half of the retards on this site have no idea what that word means.
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>>171201927
>Crying

>>171201970
>You can only summon lightning in ABC
Ok
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>>171202145
>TCG
>Banlist
Will you fags ever learn?
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>>171201936
I don't think anyone would waste an Odd-eyes Fusion for anything but Vortex.
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>>171202067
Sky Iris pop to trigger a Sorcerer and summon another dark.
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ZOODIACS WERE A MISTAKE
too bad jewnami of 'murica won't make a banlist anytime soon
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>>171202273
It's a contact fusion you idiot. You don't need polymerization or any fusion cards to call this out but it is an option, It's just like Beast Eyes Pendulum Dragon in that regard except this contact fusion counts as a fusion summon instead of a special summon. That's it. I'm sending my squad to destroy you,kid.
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>>171202580
Contact fusion is not a fusion summon.
You can still summon those monsters from the Graveyard though, since they were properly summoned by their conditions.
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>>171197560
Told you fucks Zoo will get rekt. Now they're no longer a threat in Links. Had a feeling Gofu would get fucked too with tokens.
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>>171202894
>Told you fucks Zoo will get rekt

Everyone knew this you fucking retard. You were just saying what everyone knew.
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>>171202937
>Must be either Fusion Summoned, or Special Summoned by Tributing the above cards you control (in which case you do not use "Polymerization"),
It's not fusion summon if you just tribute the material.
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>tfw you remember that this banlist doesn't affect us at all
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>>171197560
Damn so fucking close. They should've hit Grass too.
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>>171197560
>The Tyrant Neptune
What was this thing doing?
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>>171197560
>Semi-Limited:
>Elemental HERO Stratos
MY NIGGA
FREEEEEEEED
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>>171203541
Being a nearly unstoppable 5000 burn every turn.
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>>171197560
>Lawnmowing untouched
>Unaffected by Link mechanic while everyone else suffers
>Pesky Rat infestation has been resolved
>no Drancia to interrupt plays

WE TIER 1 NOW BOYS!
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>>171203541
>activate Instant Fusion
>summon Independent Nightingale
>tribute it for Neptune
>Neptune's effect, gains Nightingale's effect
>nightingale's effect
> This card gains ATK equal to its Level x 500. Unaffected by other cards' effects. Once per turn: You can inflict damage to your opponent equal to this card's Level x 500.
>Neptune is level 10
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>>171203541
Limiting card design. -Konami

I'm guessing Konami is trying to hide the fact that they completely forgot about Nepnep when they made Independent Nightingale.
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>>171203782
>Limiting card design.
Because that was a reason to ban Exodia.
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>>171203952
Exodia is iconic unlike Neptune ;)
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>>171203782
There's a lot of old shit just waiting to get banned faster than light as soon as something leftfield gains support like Super Snake Foolish Burial
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>>171203952
Its too iconic to ban, Anon.
It's like ever making a normal monster with 3K or more ATK.
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>>171203781
sounds pretty neat
did it ever top anything?
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>>171204160
Never. Fuck Konami. They just hate fun.
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>Raging Tempest SE has Kataroost
ayy lmao

https://ygorganization.com/tcg-raging-tempest-special-edition-card-gallery/
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>Gofu to 1

There goes my last hope for Pendulums
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>>171204160
It was usually tossed in with Predaplants because they can search instant fusion.
There was no reason not to run instantwin.card.exception.Kaiju
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>>171204298
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>>171204028
And yet Infernoids have access to Snake Rain on steroids and it's ok.
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>>171204356
Just play Iris Astrograph Magicians.
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>>171204401
>have to run 60 cards
>only 8 of those 60 are snake rain on steroids
Okay, Anon.
They aren't consistent about it.
Stop being salty that they sack you when they get lucky and open up with it in Ygopro singles.
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>>171197560
What's Witch of the Black Forest's new effect?
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>>171204652
Are we forgetting about this and Future Fusion already?
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>>171197560
TIER 1
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>zoo outright raped

Feels damn good man. So many people pissed away money on getting full zoo decks when they should have known this was coming.
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>>171204953
>Dork Magician ever being meta like the mighty Blue-Eyes
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>>171204925
Its your own fault for ED spamming first turn and there isn't a single mass requirement fusion for FIRE or Fiend-Type so how the fuck is future fusion relevant?
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>>171204953
It could be better in link format but toad ally awesome and frog decks are still going to give it problems.

Paleo basically becomes tier 1 with this.
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>>171205162
T I E R R A
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>>171205162
>there isn't a single mass requirement fusion for FIRE or Fiend-Type
I refuse to argue with someone this retarded.
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>>171204028
Offering to the Snake Deity and Ananta are pretty good.
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>>171204925
>its errata makes it useless
>and banned
>future fusion
What did he mean by this?
>>
So water and frogs are untouched.

Paleozoic is going to be really strong.

Also I'm shocked grass is greener didn't get hit.
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>>171205420
>If this card stay on the field for one turn: you win the game
You are right, it's useless.
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>>171205279
I thought that Tierra required to be summoned by imagination.
>>
Why would anyone play a non link focused deck in the new format?

Xyz decks lost their only power
Fusion decks lost their lunalights, Gem-Knights and Frightfurs
Synchro decks lost their Junk Dopple even more and high level synchro monsters
Pendulum decks lost their recycle effects and revives

It just baffles me,
>>
What is a yugibaboon?
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>>171205693
Xyz still has answers to everything, they will just go full stun to compensate the lack of field presence.
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>>171197560
>The Tyrant Neptune
Well. It was naturally inevitable. But still, I was looking forward to memeing with it some under Links.
I'll enjoy LLs plenty even without the Neptune meme though. The Neptune meme was admittedly really retarded so I can't really say I am sad to see it gone.
Interesting to see Neptune hit over Independent Nightingale though. But since Neptune is ancient in comparison I guess that's just expected really.
>>
>>171204652
t. gaynoid player

you forgetting about left arm offering?
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>>171205638
>twin twisters
>mst
>cosmic cyclone
>every monster s/t removal effect
Sure, Anon.
Its staying on the field.
Just like Swords stays. Just like Destiny Board stays. Just like Different Dimension Capsule stays.
>>
Now that the OCG has the banlist. List the top 10 decks of the Links format.
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Are there any Dino fusions (in 2006)? I just pulled Tyranno Infinity and I was thinking he'd really combo with Fusion Gate.
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>>171206000
>3 Left arm
>3 Grass
>1 Gate
>1 Reasoning
>3+3+1+1=8
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>>171205693
Dinomist will be fine because Pendulum from the hand is unrestricted. Not that Dinomist are any good but they really don't care about the 1 at a time thing or the backrow since they move out of the Pzones all the time.
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>>171197560
We're closer to a world without Rat, also it's fucking funny how OCG got like 2-3 banlist while we're still stuck with the same one, fuck.
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>>171206061
Your logic ia retarted. You don't always have those cards. Let's bring back Fiber Jar since there is so much removal and is slow
>>
>overkill zoo
>dont touch Grass
xd
>>
>zoods show they can still work with Links
>Konami completely rapes them
I can't remember the last time a deck went from #1 to a shitty pet deck so quickly. Any one of those 3 major hits would have worked.
>>
>completely change the game's mechanics
>don't clean the banlist of stuff that's completely irrelevant now
m-maybe next time
>>
>>171205609

Toad is already at 1.
>>
Remember when they said we'd get 4 banlists a year to prevent another DRulers from ruling the game for over a year?
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>>171206505
Stratos got freed, anon. Aren't you happy?
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>>171206505
#freeinfernities
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>>171206320
PePe in TCGland maybe? I was gonna say Airblade Turbo but it took 3 banlists to put down the damn thing for real.
>>
Do pendulum magicians have a way to add their cards to from the extra deck to the hand?
>>
>>171206241
Ash handles that card so well though.

It is why now we will see 3 Ghost Ash, 3 Maxx "C" in every OCG Deck.
>>
They raped Zoodiacs into oblivion and still semi-limited Tenki just to spit on the grave.
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>>171206762
Tenki was limited in OCG land.
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>>171206714
Amazing Pendulum. Hopefully they release something more generic for other decks like Igknights too.

>>171206762
Tenki was limited, they're actually freeing it back to other decks.
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>>171206627
still have a couple years bud, gbs sad standard of 6 is the state we are in
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>>171206714
???
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>>171202580
>choco not brown
SAD.
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>>171206715
>3 Ghost Ash is enough to balance 3 Grass
And 3 MST is enough to balance 3 Vanity's Emptiness, right?
>>
>>171205693
Infernoids :v)
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>>171206715
>just draw your ash lol
the card is retarded and shouldnt be at 2
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>>171206714
Are you legitimately retarded anon?
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>>171207429
Yes.
Especially when not just mst but all monster removal too.
Vanity's shouldn't have been made to 1.
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>No more lists they said
>Banlist never they said
>Rat forever they said
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I'm still pissed that Links aren't red. I get that there is a hexagon design on the cards but that hardly makes them look that different from rituals.
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>>171208025
Now THIS is retarded
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>>171208040
ocg bud
who know on tcg
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>>171208040
They were talking about the TCG, Anon.
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>>171208140
>>171208149
It's still a glimmer of hope
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>>171208040
>OCG
We're still stuck in Rat Hell
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>>171208040
>banlist never they said

No one says that about OCG you mouth breather.
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>>171208040
People talk about the TCG list when they say that, not the OCG one that's pretty known when it's gonna come out.

>>171208182
More like a silver lining.
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>>171208092
end it
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>>171208136
If your dark synchro bullshit spam can't handle Vanity's and doesn't have a single out to it it then its your own damn fault and you deserve to lose to it.
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>>171208223
Speak for yourself fuccboi, I'm moving to Japan.
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>mfw "ocg is imaginary format ;)" fags will have to deal with rat for the rest of their lives
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>>171208302
>Just draw ur outs lmao xD

kill yourself PLEASE stunshitter
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>>171208229
I'll breath your mouth if you know what I mean
>>
Reminder.

>Pendulums?
>Not in MY tcg!
>Unscheduled, unannounced banlist """""adjustment""""" out of nowhere

>Zoos are ruining the game?
>Meh
>>
>>171208446
>stunshitter
>loyal D/D player that will force them to work post Link
Sure mang. Whatever makes you feel better.
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>>171208040
The OCG lists are still on schedule. Everybody was expecting this.
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>>171197560
>R4 lost their generic quickplay disruption
>but still have Bull to search complete scale
>Gofu to 1
>Slumber to 1
>Neptune to 1
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>>171208797
>>Neptune to 1
It's banned bro.
>>
>>171206614
He was already at 1 in ocg because they had shadow mist at 1. What is with this influx of retards that don't know ocg's banlist?
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>>171208891
Is it really that popular over there?
Is KoJ really listening to their playerbase saying that the theoretical Nep+Independent is busted as fuck even with 0 top?
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>>171208578
>D/Ds are stunshitters.
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>>171208797
Bull searching one card and Lyca becoming link 2 monster would still be a pretty good engine, if they could do this without the normal summon.
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Possible lifeline for your ED spam.dek
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>>171209093
>D/D are stun
>nothing but special summon bullshit that's killed by Vanity's itself
>stun
Anon.
Talking about D/Ds not Fossil Dyna set three equip with mirror shield.
>>
Consider the following petdeck:
Constellars in Link Meta.
They don't really need more than 1 ED monster on board and Pleiades can cuck the opponent's EMZ.
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>>171209519
>nb3 jewnami makes up a new rule that link monsters can't be affected by return to the hand effects like how they can't be face-down
>because reasons
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>>171209224
>summon Bull properly, search something
>overlay to Boar, then into Bull, search something else
>overlay to Lyca, SS Bull/Boar, link into Missus
What's the best R4 engine since Rat is dead?
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So when will we get to see her VR form?
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>>171205693
>Xyz decks lost their only power
See >>171205921
>Fusion decks lost their lunalights, gem-knight and Frightfurs
You're acting as if those 3 decks were meta relevant. We still have Invoked, BriFu, Scorpio and to a lesser extent, Shaddolls.
>Synchro decks lost the Junk Dopple even more and high level synchro monsters
Better synchro archetypes like Yang Zings, Wind Bitches and Shiranui are still alive.
>Pendulum decks lost their recycle effects and revives
Aside from Zefra and to a lesser extent, Dinomist, I agree with the rest.

>>171208484
>Comparing Zoodiacs to EmEm
It's Nekroz all over again except with more degenerate cards like D-Barrier and Maxx "C".
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>>171209519
May as well play Chronomaly instead.
>>
>>171209825
>>Comparing Zoodiacs to EmEm
Why not? If you combine the different Zoodiacs builds, they actually measure up to EMEm in tops and representation.
>>
>>171209825
It doesn't really matter if you have answers to everything if you can only answer once.
>>
>In World Championship 2006, if you play Susa Soldier with Gaia power instead of doing 2500 damage like he's supposed to he does 1250
lmao epic game
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>>171210034
Because you can't trade your useless Xyz monster for a Link 1 and continue doing your shit.
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>>171210161
CaC tier.
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>>171210153
REad The cARD
>>
True Kings
Kozmo
Monarchs
Mermails
Agents
Dinosaurs
Nekroz
Lightsworn
Noids
Barrier Statue
Chain Burn
Blue-Eyes
Dark Magician

Any other decks that will be good in Link format?
>>
>>171210473
Melodious
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>>171210473
Cyverse.
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>>171210542
K A I J U
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>>171210473
Darklords
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>>171210473
>Chain Burn
Ojama Trio nerf hurts it, it gives your opponent a FREE Link-3 so you'd better kill them in the chain you use it.
>>
>>171210473
Supreme True Odd-Metal Zefra Box of Performapal Dracoslayer Magician
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>>171210473
True Dracos
Possibility of spellbooks if the rumor of new support is true
>>
>>171210473
H E R O
E
R
O
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>>171210829
>so you'd better kill them in the chain you use it
You rarely use them to stall anyway since your advantage diminish over time.
>>
>>171210608
>Slumber@1
kek
>>
>>171210014
>TCG rarity bumped Nekroz so they couldn't just kill them immediately.
>TCG rarity bumped Zoos so they couldn't just kill them immediately.
>TCG quick limited/banned cards used in EmEm that were either commons (Joker and Monkeyboard) or were from older sets (Tellarknight Infinity and Luster)

>>171210473
Phantom Knights
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>>171210473
BA.
They're gonna print Dante of the Linked Abyss just to keep the fucking cunt afloat.
>>
Winged Kuriboh LV10
>>
>>171211297
So TCG rarity bumping is actually an act of kindness to protect the poor players from the banlist?
>>
>>171209795
Is she really the heroine or is it just another case of early episode fodder antagonist like that champion guy using battleguard?
She looks so bland.
>>
>>171211514
>protect those who play broken deck from a banlist that actually stops the broken deck

hmmm
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>>171210153
are you literally retarded?
>>
>>171211641
"She" is wearing the same male uniform of Yusaku. It's some trap, not the heroine.
>>
>>171211514
>implying the poor players can afford the cards
>>
>tfw I have an idea of the deck Archetype I want, but not what cards I need or even the actual sub-theme
Send help
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>>171178418
Reprint fucking when?

I honestly thought that the SPYRAL hype would've done it, but it fucking didn't.
>>
>>171211913
just wait till vr form, fag
>>
>>171211961
Spyrals are
SHIT
H
I
T
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>>171210829
Do people even play Trio on Burn anymore? There's a lot of new stuff that supplants it.
>>
>>171211913
I thought the article say something about the guy in the portrait is a female duelist or something.
Then again, I can't read moon.
>>
>>171211915
Of course they can, all they have to do is skip some meals, new clothes and turn off their heaters for some months!
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>>171211913
>it's some trap

i sure hope so
>>
>>171198590
>>171198807
they do an april 1 banlist all the damn time and people always joke that its a joke but it never is
>>171198848
fear the gotes
>>171199619
>>171199943
>hero autists will never die
>based
>>171200496
it's interesting that synchro.dek loves literally all of those but compass
>>171200597
>>171201152
they still aren't terrible memes aside
>>171200693
F
can we has level eater back nao nihon-senpai?
>>171205693
junk doppel is literally token.dek so
>>171209825
YZ have always, always been awful.
Shiranui are just shit.
>>
>>171212136
The guy who posts his lists here with Snow in runs Trio.
>>
>>171212171
And eat just a banana for breakfast?
>>
>>171211913
>>171212152
>>171212189
not the trap brigade again
next thing you know we'll be drowning in tomatoes
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>>171211641
We'll see.
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>>171212334
>affording breakfast
>when you want to play the newest hot meta deck every 3 months
I dont think so
>>
>>171212351
>not the trap brigade again
Was there any trap in Arc-V? Sora was a fucboi, but still clearly male.
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Why did they nerf Brain Control when they have Mind Control at 3, again?
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>>171212638
I don't think komoney puts canon traps in their animes so you'd need some meme like veiler being a trap

there was a lot of yuyaposting but that strayed gay(er)
>>
>>171212638
that's enough for these fags
move over to your containment thread already shitters
>>
>>171212638
Reira?
>>
>>171212228
Demise YZ is very playable, especially when compared to Junk Dopple of all things.

Also,
>Uni-Zombie.dek
>shit
kek
>>
>>171213007
Reverse trap though.
>>
Magician's Left Hand and Magician's Right Hand. Are they good cards? They seem so simply and ineffective.
>>
>>171211961
Mystic Piper is shit. Doesn't even have a place with Lyrical Luscinias.
>>
>>171198259
thank you, I didn't want to listen to capg
>>
I'm glad zoodiac is dead in OCG. Fuck those guys(female).
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>>171213091
Reverse trap is clearly a trap.
A normal trap even.
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>>171213086
yes anon, shiranuis are shit
>>
>>171213221
>listen to capg
He has nothing to do with this and I have no idea why anon even linked his video unless it was actually posted by himself posing as anonymous.
It's just a shitty video of himself reading the damn org page. As if you couldn't just read it yourself.
>>
>>171212863
>Thanks to links, you can always use the monster you stole with Mind Control as material to something
Interesting.
>>
>>171213091
reira isn't a girl anon
>>
>>171213231
>b-but if Link monsters have no DEF stat then that means they have a DEF of 0 doesn't it!!
>>
>>171213492
end it
>>
>>171213148
>Mystic Piper is shit. Doesn't even have a place with Lyrical Luscinias.
I petdeck Ghostrick Exodia... it's the least degenerate Exodia deck that I know.
>>
>>171213294
>Reading Comprehension
Again, they're still better than Junk Dopple, Pre and Post-link format, which was point.
>>
>>171212863
For the same reason they nerfed Goyim Guardian even though it was doing fuck all in the TCG.
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>>171197560
Another banlist dodged.
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>>171213492
Wrong card, anon.
Reverse Trap is arguably also affect Link monster normally.
>>
>>171214034
Dante is limited in OCG, dingus.
>>
>>171214034
he's already at one buddy
>>
>>171213959
They can justify Guardian doing nothing in TCG due to different meta.
Mind Control is at 3 in OCG.
>>
>>171214064
think they already said can't do things involving def too
>>
Are Fusion decks just incredibly weak? This fusion deck AI barely puts up a fight.
>>
>>171205994
It'd be retarded to fuck over LL players and decks that use Instant Fusion over Neptune, you keep everyone happy this way.
>>
>>171214373
Reverse Trap doesn't have anything to do with DEF manipulation. Directly, at least.
>>
>>171213892
no they aren't, they're toilet paper
>>
>>171214446
Have you tried not playing AI?
>>
>>171214373
Now the question.
Will Link Spider receive the ATK boost from Missus?
>>
>>171214446
They are, Fusion as a whole sucks because of all the negatives you have to do to get the fusion monster, that's why xyz is superior, you only need two monsters of the same level, with fusion you need the right materials, the polymerization like card, protection for that fusion and hopefully enough hand advantage to keep that fusion.

Rituals,Fusions, Pendulums and Synchros have all these annoying things you to do that I question why anybody would run decks reliant on those methods. Xyz and Links will be a much easier format to play in.
>>
>>171214516
Agreed. I just kind of expected them to do it anyway.
>>
>>171214337
The point is: You could (or in Konami's case) SHOULD be able to apply SOME sort of common sense and logic in spotting patterns between different metas and make lists based on observations and tournament reports. But, since this is Konami, they just throw darts at a board, ban/limit things for no reason, count their shekels, and then roll back over for 3+ months while the game suffers from it.

tl;dr: If shit is doing absolutely nothing in the entirety of a format, why in the hell would it have an impact in the other?
>>
>>171214687
it's EARTH
so yes
>>
>>171214064
this wouldn't do shit on links, they have no def. They are unaffected by card effects that would change their battle position, atk def swap shouldn't be different. Links don't have "?" def which would be considered 0. They simply don't possess a Def stat
>>
>>171215015
>reading comprehension
>>
>>171214774
I don't think KoJ even admit that KoA exist.
>>
>>171215289
And that's what grates me - just how little communication there is between the two divisions. Shit is like 90's Sega all over again with the sheer incompetence.
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>>171214843
That's like saying you can equip Synchro Boost to an Xyz monster.
>>
>>171215443
Pretty accurate description of the relationship.
>>
>>171215465
Couldn't you, though?
>>
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>>171215530
Retard.
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>>171215674
shaddup iron core
>>
>>171178418
I was rather hopeful for VRAINS until I saw Firewall Dragon
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>>171215674
Ye I can totally read moonrunes, link a TCG source, faggot
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>>171215674
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>>171210473
Raidraptors.

>>171215465
You can't use it since Xyz Monsters do not possess Levels.
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>>171215789
>current year
>can't into moon
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>>171214446
The Invoker deck in the AI has been whooping my shit and pulling off real plays and reads and shit.
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>>171197560
>Elemental HERO Stratos
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>>171215935
You can't built wall of force strixes anymore, anon.
Just give up.
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tfw
>you can actually get missus and gaia out with just quickdraw and scapegotes
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>>171185854
>Someone recommend me a fun 2006 era Fusion or Ritual focused deck.
>fun
>2006 Fusion/Ritual
Doesn't exist mate. Fusion sucked until Chimeratech (2007?) and the only relevant Ritual deck was Demise OTK (2008?), which was an OTK deck and therefore not fun.

>>171191042
>someone want to answer why raigeki has been printed in 9 different sets (2 in one set), is a 1 of, and the cheapest price to get one is over $20?
Because it hasn't been printed in 9 different sets.
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>>171216562
>not just using Link Spider into Missus/Honeybot
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>>171214207
>>171214232
But he's not limited like certain other XYZ cars
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>>171216942
Fuck I meant banned.
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>>171203952
>Because that was a reason to ban Exodia.
They can't. Kaz won't let them, not banning Exodia is one of the things they had to agree to in order to get the game from him.
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>fusion decks are bad
A-Atleast I still have rituals, right?
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>>171216208
All I have to do is run 3 Xyz Reborn, and Etranger Falcon. Simple.
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>>171206606
>Remember when they said we'd get 4 banlists a year to prevent another DRulers from ruling the game for over a year?
Literally no.
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>>171217198
Source: your ass.
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>>171217264
Herald still sucks and only wins when it opens nuts.
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So why don't we ever see Exodia decks in a competitive format?
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>>171217264
>d barrier'd
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>>171217429
Because Konami guts all the good draw cards
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>>171217371
Exodia is in the rulebook as an official wincon. It's essential to Yugioh. Exodia is on the same level as Decking Out and Life Points.
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>>171216841
that's 4 extra deck slots vs 2 though
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Holy shit, did we get that many newfags since the last OCG banlist or are there that many fucking retards that still don't know shit about the OCG banlist?
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>>171217429
Exodia almost won WCS 2012.
Saito beat Winston by cheating.
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>>171217515
>zefra
>set scales
>d barrier: pendulum
>well that's fine, I have a resonator
>summon resonator
>eff to SS
>...
>oh, d barrier stops all special summons of that type not just the mechanic
fug
It seriously fucks over basically everything that isn't synchro/xyz.
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>>171217264
to be fair lord of the red is probably gonna be pretty friggin boss
>>171217729
we don't pay as much attention to it
>>171217752
>barrier doesn't fuck over synchro and xyz
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>>171217685
>Kaz won't let them, not banning Exodia is one of the things they had to agree to in order to get the game from him.
Source: your ass.
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>>171217720
Only use 2 monster and can be done turn 1.
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>>171217429
We do, then they get shit on by the banlist.
Exodia decks used to top with ftks.
And as the other guy said, winston got chet'd.
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>>171197560
Phew good thing Rat has been put to 1, really couldnt handle Rat at 2!
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>>171197560
>ratpier limited
What's the point? Without Drident and Barrage, ratpier at 2 would be more than ok. But I guess they want to make sure its as dead as possible so people will buy links.
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>>171217912
slots in the extra deck, not extra monster zones
it's a synchro deck trying to quasar, shit's tight already

unless i'm misunderstanding in which case where did you get the second cyverse monster for honeybot from seeing as it can't be another link spider?
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>>171217968
They'll probably raise it to 2 once they're 100% sure the deck is nice and dead.
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>>171217968
with unlimited Rat Zoos could still be used to spam Links
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>>171217887
It doesn't fuck them over as hard, kind of ironic coming from my last post but can't you read?
>seriously fucks over
>fucks over
Xyzs/Synchros aren't as chainable as Fusion/Rituals and with Pendulums it fucks the entire deck.
Plus if you're synchroing same levels (or Xyzing with a tuner) you can always go for the other mechanic. Not very common I admit but it can happen.
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>>171218181
let's just agree ban the barrier
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>>171218071
I'm talking about the actual monster you spent on building the link.
ED space doesn't mean shit even in Quasar build. Just cut your 15 draw into 10.
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>>171217376
Delete this post.
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>>171216841
What I personally keep wondering. Is whether or not you can go from A and B to C, if B is under A in this scenario.
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>>171210473
Ghostricks. They are even better if the opponent doesn't fill the board with monsters.
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So the ban list was released on V-Jump.
But there were no card reveals for this month.
What a let down.
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>>171217737
How did Saito cheated? That match was so long ago, don't remember shit.
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>>171201224
not one fucking bit m8
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>>171216841
What is that image trying to imply? You can't Link A and B together to get C in that position, since you remove the materials from the field first.
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>>171218307
gotes on end phase, summon quickdraw on your turn. make missus with 2 gotes, make gaiasaber with quick and 2 tokens

2 extra deck slots
vs

gotes on ep
launch 1 & 2 for missus
launch 3 for spider
launch 4 for spider
launch spiders for honeybot

4 extra deck slots
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>>171218281
OCG has d barrier right? It didn't make it to their banlist.
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>>171218912
Intentionally slow-played and had a biased nip judge on his side iirc.
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>>171218918
actually thats not it fully i pulled cave clash and upstart out for 2 copies of my body as a shield. Deck does work against filthy zoo players and many other decks, and its fun.
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>>171218912
He stalled for ages and refused to accept a response from Winston from what I can remember.
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>>171218998
dbarrier was in ocg first
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12544653
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>>171219276
So yeah if our banlist is anything like theirs DBarrier isn't getting touched.
;_;
I bet it's so those fucking kikes can push link summoning harder.
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>>171210473
Subterror trueking princess geargias will be boy
>>171218918
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Friendly reminder that Zoo will win Worlds because Tewart is fucking retarded.
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As the game grows faster and OTKs become more consistent, disruption becomes exponentially more powerful. A hit to strike when?
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>>171218936
If that's the way it works then this is a terrible mechanic.
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>>171219039
>>171219141
Wasn't that the same ocasion where a Chaos Dragons player normal summoned twice in the same turn?
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>>171209825
EmEm got 29/32 tops in the first YCS
rat.dek got 30 and 29 in the first YCS
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>>171219558
Can we errata strike to not work on Normal Summoned monsters?
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>>171219537
How? Aren't the OCG and TCG banlists combined for worlds?
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>>171219537
That literally can't happen with this new ban list.
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>>171219561
That is how it works. It doesn't create a permanent EMZ, Main Monster Zones are only EMZs IF a Link Monster in an EMZ is pointing at it. When you remove Link Spider from your field to Link Summon Missus Radiant, the EMZ created by Link Spider no longer exists.
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>>171199771
That's because they know kaijus are fucking cancer.
Who's brilliant idea was it to make an archetype that can be boiled down to lava holes that give you a stronger beatstick than your opponent at the cost of their boss monsters
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Quick question guys. Will test when I get home, but if any of you know, id like to know too.

The "do not shuffle" option in percy, does that not stop cards like foolish burial from shuffling your deck? Even if it plays the shuffle animation, does the deck actually become shuffled? Thanks in advance.
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>>171219903
does not shuffle, ever
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>>171210473
PSY-Frame would do well with the mechanic but with Omega at 1 (assuming we're getting that in TCG) the deck's ded as fuck. Too easy to brick anyway, without the field spell/feel zone you can't do anything.
I can see Invoked Windwitch still doing well, Invoker is a free 1 link, so invoker + a SS would be enough to get enough links to keep some decent advantage.
Could see Tella Seraphs make a comeback, a little too inconsistent now days though.
Maybe Yosenju will see some play since they don't give a fuck about links.
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>>171219903
It means you start with the layout you have in the deck editor, great for testing.
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>>171219675
TCG can't just slaughter Zoodiac this early because they decided to go full jew with them (similar to Nekroz).
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>>171218956
Summon 2 Link Spider using 2 Token, then Link them into Missus/Honeybot.
3 ED space, and 2 token.

Also
>using 4 token and can only be done on turn 3+
vs
>using 2 token and can be done on turn 1
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>>171220365
>TCG
>Getting banlists
(lol
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>>171220508
>we get our banlist
>rat to 2 :^)
>that's it
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>Wake up
>No banlist
>No mail
Time to go back to sleep.
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I'm thinking about playing Yosenju once the Link format is live, but still can't decide. Help me /dng/, Demise Yosenju or Yosenju Kaiju?
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>>171220821
demise of the kaiju
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>>171206994
My favorite shit
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>>171219384
g-guys pls vote, want to see dng's thoughts on a certain card
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>>171220531
but where are you getting the materials for the 2nd link?
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>>171218936
It's one of the pic I make for "shit that not yet confirmed to be (not) legal", but it's close enough to the combo.
The real combo should be like this.
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>>171221032
vanities needs to be at 3 or 0
If it's at 3 I can justify maindecking a ton of removal for it
At 1 it's fucking retarded because HURR DURR I RUN ONE TRAP GAME 2 AND IT'S VANITIES DO YOU WANNA TAKE THAT RISK YOU FUCKING NIGGER
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>>171221103
Do you even think before you reply?
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>>171221103
Link 2 Spider.
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>>171221334
>>171221349
2 tokens
2 spiders
you can link them into missus OR honeybot, but not both
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>>171221432
No one talking about summoning both Missus and Honeybot, anon.
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>>171220024
I hope so, thanks for the quick response

>>171220506
Oh, I understand that. ive used it for testing before. But im trying to do something a little more complex that would require my deck to still stay unshuffled after I search. I can work around it, but Just wanted to know.
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>>171220821
demise yosenju, judging by the ocg banlist they're gonna hit kaiju in some way next banlist in the tcg.
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>>171221432
>"Missus/Honeybot" is the same of "Missus and Honeybot"
Retars.
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Since you guys finally talking about Link.
Do you think pic related is legal?
Does this month V-Jump said anything other than that Q&A about Token being legal to use as Link material?
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>>171221605
Kaiju is a TCG deck, they won't hit it enough.
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>>171221770
>Do you think pic related is legal?
Why not?
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>>171219804
Yeah but you choose the zone to summon it in during the transition so I would think you could choose the soon to be gone zone. It's simultaneous.
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>>171221770
The Perfect Rulebook will explain all the big questions
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>>171221542
I was, that was the idea since you need 3 slots to sychrobait and you can do that with the quickdraw/scapegoat thing
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>>171221770
No. Once you choose an EMZ, that one is yours and the other is your opponent's for the rest of the game.
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>>171221605
Even if slumber's hit the kaiju version is still playable, just not as good.
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>>171221984
Using different EMZ than the one you claimed.
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>>171221820
Better to play on the safe side if you plan on getting the cards now, who knows maybe they will hit it hard cause they want to force you to buy their new shiny tcg deck
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>>171221770
>Do you think pic related is legal?
I don't. Pretty much due to how I imagine >>171216841 being legal instead. And if >>171216841 is legal then >>171221770 doesn't really make sense.
Likewise though, if >>171221770 ends up being legal. Then >>171216841 doesn't really make sense.

I imagine it will be one or the other. And I imagine it will be >>171216841.
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>>171222102
>for the rest of the game.
They've never said that. Just that you can't control both.
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>>171221646
shut up iron core
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>>171222096
See >>171216841
Close enough, so you should get the idea.
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>>171222354
i wanted BOTH not just one of them, for the purpose of having 3 extra monster zones
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>>171222519
And that pic show that you actually only need one to have 3 LZ/EMZ.
Ad since you only need that one EMZ for Librarian, you can even do >>171221186
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Remember how Gladiator Beasts were just proto-synchro?
Zoodiacs were proto-link, link 1 are basically the same Zoodiac mechanism
>Can be summoned using a single monster as material
>Can by itself be used as material for another link 1
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>YGOPro might not update for 3 months, so you can't test anything in a sim
Will playing through example moves with my real cards and some proxies help me think and become a better player? I think sims made me braindead.
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>>171216841
>>171222772
are we sure that that's legal?
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>>171221303
Buts thats what the tcg does, randomly semi/limiting shit just to make it more sacky.
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>>171222986
It's as legal as using token to link summon 3 days ago.
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Thanks for the suggestions anon, so it'll be Demise Yosenju, time to get the cards now that they're still cheap.
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>>171222986
It's not legal, it's just one guy pushing this meme until Konami officially declare it illegal.
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>>171222838
And Dimension Fusion was just proto-pendulum
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I bought this set going to play with friends tomorrow
should I mix and match build my deck from the 3? or just use one of the already set decks inside it?
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>>171223214
Are you saying that we can't use monster in EMZ as material?
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>>171222838
>Link-1, 1 "archetype" monster, except this card's name
That's a curious material requirement.
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>>171223298
I'm saying you can't place the new Link monster in the linked zone that disappeared as you used the monster linking it as material.
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>>171222986
No. He's a fucking retard that doesn't understand how summoning works. If you use material to play an extra deck monster (that isn't an Xyz), that material goes to the graveyard and then you play the ED monster. He's trying to push that there's some step in the middle of the summon that allows you to summon into an EMZ created by a material.
I didn't think it was possible, but someone managed make a dumber Link theory than "Mask Changed HERO monsters don't go into EMZs".
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>>171223615
Doesn't matter if you summon Missus instead.
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>>171223831
Sure, but that's not the point.
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>>171223283
The Exodia and Blue-Eyes decks are the two better ones in the set. None of them are consistent since you don't have playsets of each card in the set (you'd have to buy 3 of them for that).
What's your situation? Do you already play? Do your friends have their own decks? Do you want to develop a deck out of this?
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>>171223945
Actually, even Honeybot is digressing from the point.
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>>171223831
It matters because otherwise you would be able to summon 3 EDM instead of just 2.
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>>171224104
Use the LZ first before you summon the Radiant.
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>>171224018
The situation is it's kind of a casual drinking party but yugioh themed and we're going to have a small tournament among friends so it's nothing too serious but I don't want something too terrible. and they'll have their own cards
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>>171223763
>some step in the middle
Not that guy. But if you would do it, it was to be possible it would be thanks to fewer steps, not more.

If you sent the materials and made the actual summon with one and the same action, then it should feasibly work.
If they're separate actions, it wouldn't be feasible.
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i can dig it
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>>171224692
You'll be fine then, if your friends are nostalgiafags then they probably bought the same kind of shit.
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Hey.
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>>171224882
You can't summon honeybot there, it has to go into the EMZ
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>>171224915
Alright good stuff thanks
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>>171224965
it that zone was linked by a spider is the logic
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>>171224965
>You can't summon honeybot there
You don't know that. At the time of the summon it's a linked zone.
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The existence of Cyverse Gadget kinda implies that pic related is legal, right?
Right?
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>>171224692
>they'll have their own cards
do you know how active they are? if you're just now buying in, they could be playing old meta decks if they're poorfags, which would still slaughter you.
hopefully they're good sports.
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>>171225121
>>171225149
Technically, at the time of summon, there's no linked zone at all, since both spiders are taking up the only zones.
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>>171225185
Nah they don't play consistently if anything I've played more than any of them have mostly just on the video game Legacy of the Duelist to brush myself up a bit. There's probably only 1 guy at the party that might have an actual insane deck but he mostly plays Magic.
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>>171225161
that one should be legal even if the other isn't because the top zone is muh special zone
>>171225234
basically we don't know if you can use something in a link zone as material for something else going into that link zone


you probably should be able to since link seems to basically be synchro rules
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>>171225234
Well. It's still a linked zone, even if it's occupied.
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>>171224989
Just bear in mind that Blue-Eyes uses a Synchro, so I hope you know how to play them.
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>>171225234
>>171225328
if I have say formula and librarian linked in two zones to a missus radiant there's zero reason i should not be able to summon black rose into one of those 2 slots, even though they're technically both occupied link zones
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Monsters are send to the Graveyard before you can summon the ED monster.
TCG even requires you to activate effects of monsters sent to the Graveyard before the effect of the summoned monster because that happens first.
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>>171225467
But in the honeybot case, as soon as you go to summon her, neither zone is linked anymore.
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As soon as there isn't a Link to a zone, it's not an Extra Monster Zone any more. There's nothing to discuss here.
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>>171225560
>>171225719
The procedure for the summon is:
1. can it be legally summoned to that zone
2. do you have the proper materials

if both of those conditions are met you should be able to summon there
>>
Under the old rules. If all 5 zones were full, you could still do Synhchro, Xyz, Fusion, or Tribute summoning even though there's no vacant zone.
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>>171225531
>>171225719
Are you saying that I can use Vanity's Fiend to Xyz?
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>>171226023
Your point?
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>>171201224
I hope they don't hit Drancia in the TCG, otherwise i'm just putting an useless bull with 0/0 stats.

At least there's more incentive to use bullhorn as link fodder
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>>171226023
I'm not saying you can't summon it, I'm saying it has to go into the EMZ, since there's nothing on field to link it into a MMZ
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>>171225856
You don't know how to play this fucking game if you think that's the case.
If you have a full field, you can still Fusion/Synchro/Xyz Summon with monsters on the field since the materials go to the Graveyard (or they're overlaid as Xyz materials) and free up space on the field. Non-Xyz materials ALWAYS go to the Graveyard first. No fucking debate.
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I hope they hit drident in the TCG because I can't afford one and only have the bull.
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>>171226115
I'm saying exactly what I'm saying.
TCG even requires you to activate effects of monsters sent to the Graveyard before the effect of the summoned monster because that happens first.
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>>171226135
I am not the guy who started the conversation. But at the time when you started the summon it would be an EMZ. Even if it would no longer be by the end of it.
So I imagine it might work.

For kind of the same reason why you can make summons without any vacant zones.
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>>171224882
If we use regular rules, that shouldn't be possible, Since monsters used to summon a new monster has no effect whatsoever on the new monster.

I think that something as important as link zones being unrelated to the card being on the field would have been explained.
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>>171226272
That doesn't mean you can't declare a summon for the zone while it still exists.
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>>171226315
We'll need to wait for a rulebook on this shit.
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>have two copies of raigeki
>both spanish
What do /dng/? I don't even remember how I got them.
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>>171225161
You can always ED summon to your EMZ.
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>>171226529
just sell em
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>>171226238
>can't afford a $20 card
>but can afford a $60 card

Hmmmmm
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>>171226487
Yeah. I am not saying it will work. I am just saying it might.
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You know full well the Konmen will rule against the convenience and not let you drop the Honey on the MMZ.
BUY LINKS or die.
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>>171226629
I pulled the bull
Is it really $60?
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>>171226472
You don't declare summons in YGO.
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>>171226669
Sorry kid im playing Monarchs
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>>171226698
Tell that to Strike.
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>>171205693
Lunalights are still playable with Links, but with Drancia banned, they won't be a threat at all, at best they're atlantean tier
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>>171226698
I didn't mean it like an official action or anything. But when you initiate. Start. Begin. A summon still has a beginning even if it's not a step that can be chained to.
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>>171226529
you can use it no problem
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>>171226692
I'm talking barrage.
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>>171226770
Attempting a summon is not declaring a summon.
By the time you attempt a summon the materials are not on the field anymore.
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>>171226315
At the time of the summon, it's an occupied, invalid slot. So no, that wouldn't work.

When you send Links as materials to the grave, any EMZs they created are lost. So no, it couldn't work.

No matter how you look at it, unless Konami literally specifies "this summon works differently than everything else because I dunno, we felt like ruling it differently and making everything confusing", it doesn't work this way.
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>>171226615
Aside from online is there a market for spanish cards? There's not a single spic at my locals.
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>>171226692
>>171226238
You can prep it too since it's about to be useless once TCG picks up the slack and copies OCG's banlist.
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>>171226698
The official summoning action is placing your materials face up in the graveyard (or overlaying them) and then placing your monster from the extra deck onto the field.
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>>171227223
>You can prep it too
Fuckin kek
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>>171227140
>When you send Links as materials to the grave, any EMZs they created are lost. So no, it couldn't work.
But when they were sent, they were EMZs. So the question simply remains whether or not that creates an opportunity to fill that slot or if it instantly makes it invalid.

I am inclined to believe one case but I am not convinced of either. Konami could easily rule for whatever they feel like.
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>>171227180
Just try to sell it anyway, people generally tend to care less about language on cards like raigeki since everyone knows the effect and its a well desired card. Some people at my locals play with part italian / spanish cards which is memey as fuck
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>>171227081
By the time the materials aren't on field anymore, the attempt is done and you don't care whether the zone is linked.
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>>171227539
It's not, the materials are sent before you can choose the zone you want to summon.
>>
Ponder this conundrum for a moment.
An extra deck monster summoned to an emz, that is later unlinked and rendered a regular mmz again. Doesn't die. But simply remains on the now regular mmz.

So who is to say you can't summon an extra deck monster to an emz even if it turns into an mmz from doing so.
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>>171227539
Except that you only choose where you want to summon after you pay the summoning costs. You can't declare where you want to summon before paying the summoning costs.
>>
If I make FF Zoods, would that be new vegas.dek?
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>>171227390
As soon as you pick up your fucking Link monster off of the Field, it's not Linking to any Zones any more. This is just plain logic. There isn't some time in the middle between it being on the Field and it being in the Graveyard where the Zone is still Linked.

>>171227871
It stays in an MMZ because it was summoned correctly into an EMZ, once it does that, it doesn't matter whether the Zone it's in isn't Linked any more. You can Special Summon ED Monsters from the Graveyard into MMZs too, so long as they were summoned correctly first.
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>>171197560
I don't care if I'm late, this is the most worthless banlist OCG has done, all it did was overkill Zoos.
>hitting Kaijus
>hitting Gofu
>putting all those limited cards to 2 instead of 3
>D/Ds STILL aren't at full power yet
>Construct still banned
>Solemn and Barrier still legal
>Lawnmowing untouched
>Irrelevant Ruri meme got banned
OCG is just worse than TCG sometimes
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>>171228094
>There isn't some time in the middle between it being on the Field and it being in the Graveyard where the Zone is still Linked.
But if there is no time in the middle at all then it wouldn't have had time to lose its linked status.
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Now that your precious furries can't protect you, start stretching that tight boipussi
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>>171228616
You don't summon from the extra deck until the material is in the graveyard, lad.
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>>171228829
And? If there is no time in the middle at all then it wouldn't have had time to lose its linked status.
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>>171228579
>Lawnmowing untouched
It didn't place. Maybe it will need some attention after powerlevels are reestablished.
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>Bullhorn is still at 3
Thicc.dek lives on, but its still tier 3 bullshit that only wins whenever it doesn't brick.
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>>171229217
I'm sorry for your loss.
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>>171229296
Yeah, Drancia being put to 0, i hope that won't happens, that card was a key play in the deck, i guess i have to run 3 of MST.

F for dragon tiddies. I hope the TCG does the better thing and puts her to 1 but Rat goes straightly to 0 with barrage. And bullhorn is also put to 0, a 2 level 4 xyz that can search ANY beast-warrior, on top of not being hard OPT unlike Tenki, that's some bullshit when you think about it.
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>>171227747
>>171227905
Choosing the zone and sending the material is simultaneous.
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>A broadbull and an emeral is almost an invoker
Wonder if I can make that trade this weekend. It'd help with both the Dolches and the U.A.s
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>>171228616
When the link is on the field, the zone is linked, when its not on the field, its not linked. You get this, right?

Then, now you need to understand that when you summon a monster, first you need to pay the cost(which usually requires you to send monsters to the grave or overlay as materials), and after that happens, you get to choose where you want your new monster to be.

With the current rulings, by the time you get to choose, the linked zone is not linked anymore. Of course Konami can change the rules, but something as important as changing how the summoning happens is quite a major change, and would probably be mentioned on the new rules guides they have provided.
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>>171212136
>>171212290
That's me. Trio clogs their board and gives you 1500 more burn off Desserts. I'll keep using it until Links, but I won't be playing this by then anyways.
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>>171229584
>When the link is on the field, the zone is linked, when its not on the field, its not linked. You get this, right?
Yes but there is no saying the game has time to instantly unlink.
Let me say this. If you send effect monsters to the graveyard for a synchro summon or whatever, with effects that activate upon being sent to the graveyard. They don't have time to activate in between but instead activates afterwards. And if they can't activate afterwards then they simply miss their timing.
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>>171229506
They're a toolbox archtype of free pluses that needed to die. Seems like Konami's dipping their toes more deeply in disposable op garbage which is simply banned into oblivion after a couple lists.
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>>171228579
>Construct still banned
Eternally BTFO Shaddoll faggot detected
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>>171229994
you should probably refer to continuous effects if you'd like to make a coherent argument.
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>>171230046
Zoodiac was literally the equivalent of pump & dump coins in crypto.
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>>171230253
You can't synchro a face-up Vanity's Fiend on field.
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>>171228579
>kaijus were sided in nearly every deck
>gofu was because of link spam
>they just want to see if there is any degeneracy with those cards that they overlooked before putting them to three
>valid point
>they have el shaddoll fusion at 3 and Super Poly at 1
>barrier doesn't stop links and solemn strike was not as heavily played in the format as barrier, torrential and warning
>infernoids weren't relevant and are hurt severely by ghost ash
>degeneracy, cards have always been hit for this reason

This list is decent and definitely better than the TCG's extremely profit oriented banlist.
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>>171230046
I still don't like the part where Drancia is put at 0, Rat, Bull and Barrage are the reasons they have big pluses and were stupidly splashable.
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>>171230046
>>171230276
All them sales tho.
All them promotions.
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>>171229994
Because those are trigger effects, and they need time to activate. It is different from a continuous effect that happens instantly and doesn't create a chain.

This is why for example, if you use a monster that gives all your monsters 100 attack as a synchro material, there won't be any time that your new synchro monster is affected by that continuous effect.
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>>171230253
If effects don't have time to activate until the summon is complete, why are you so certain that the linked zone has time to lose its linked status?
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>>171230358
Yeah Drancia 0 is really putting me off.
I dont think it needed to be hit at all, but at most it should be put to 1.

Also rat should have gone to 2 and not 1.

Barrage of course belongs to 0, that card should never have existed.
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>>171230472
Because when the summon is complete the effect is gone. That doesn't mean it wasn't active until then.
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>>171230358
drancia is still the end goal. that card was even in the extras of decks that didn't run a single other zood. the have awesome art and interesting mechanisms, sadly they got used to move product. hope they get erratad lol
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>>171230472
That's just because the monster isn't on the field yet.
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But Drancia targets. Which means that it ~~SUUUUCKS~~.
How could it end up on the banlist??!?
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>>171230710
>when the summon is complete the effect is gone
If the link zone was somehow active when the new monster entered the field, it would mean that continuous effects lingers while the summoning is happening. But if that were true, then in my example, the syncrho monster would get a 100 attack boost, and then immediately lose it as soon as the "summon is complete", but this doesn't happens.
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>>171230941
Quickeffect
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>>171230710
holy shit, the retardation is real
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>>171230941
ONE FUCKING CARD QUICK PLAY DISRUPTION

it's just that strong
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>>171230989
>If the link zone was somehow active when the new monster entered the field
It disappears at the same time though.
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>>171231008
ALL THEY HAD TO DO IS THAT IT CANT BE INSTANTFUSED FUCK
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It's been 6 hours since the list and still no card spoilers, list is fake boys.
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>>171219724
They are
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>>171231140
You can't be this retarded. Did you even read the rulebook?
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>>171231008
f
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>>171230989
That cont. effect doesn't work simply because it only affect monster on the field.
It doesn't disappear until the summon negation window is opened, but the summoned monster doesn't get it because it's not on the field until after the summon negation window ends.

Also, link zone isn't an effect.
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If only there was a way to test this shit using, say, a continuous card that blocks monster zones and a monster that can inherently summon itself by getting rid of that card.
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>>171231452
I don't get what was the original card
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>>171231370
no, all they had to do is not give it a fucking effect that it didn't have in the anime
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>>171230530
argue your linked zone>link summon position only using in-game terminology and citing ocg rulings as precedent. I dare you faget
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>>171231573
Can you summon Accel Synchron from grave using Synchron Explorer?
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>>171228579
>Kaijus not being used as intended and being thrown into every deck because "lol interrupted kaiju slumber free 600 damage every turn"
>this is a negative
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>>171231786
>not used as intended
its like they've never designed cards before
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>>171231786
>free 600 damage
>600
why would you use gadarla when you can summon game instead?
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>>171228814
I love how despite 20 years of powercreep that there are still decks which can fold if something gets disrupted.
But then again, ABC- Dragon Buster is still at 3 and so is Master Peace so I guess Konami was just tired of Zoo.
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Is dueling book worse than ygopro? DN's been gone for so long I almost forgot what it was like
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>>171228579
>putting all those limited cards to 2 instead of 3

Except the TCG does step by step changes from 2 before putting them to 3 often as well, idiot.
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>>171231786
>not summoning the 0 attack kaiju

u dumb?
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>>171232048
>fold if something gets disrupted
Isn't that the whole point of disruption?
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>>171231936
Japanese people will fuck your shit sideways for having a mindset on a set of cards and people start using the set and throwing it into everything and a half.
>>171231975
It was on the offset that you were using a shit.dek with rainbow flower and still activating the card in an archetype deck with no machines, no aquas, no dinosaurs, etc. because the field wipe is just that good
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>>171232083
Yes.
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>>171232202
We aren't in japan now are we?
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>>171232202
rainbow flower have 400 atk though
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>>171231570
>It doesn't disappear until the summon negation window is opened
No, it disappears as soon as you used it as materials for a new summon, you can't negate a summon before the players pays its summoning costs.

>link zone isn't an effect
It's a card "characteristic", which makes it basically work just like a continuous effect.
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I was going through my old set of cards and I found these chinese cards. Are they actual cards or are they fake?
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>>171232327
The people who make OCG are though, honestly I love kaijus and I wouldn't be surprised if TCG jobs so hard that Kaiju Slumber is at 3 and the card continues to be unhealthy for the game
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>>171232143
ruled last ycs that you can't
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>>171232489
Proof???
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>>171232202
>Japanese people will fuck your shit sideways for having a mindset on a set of cards
They probably just have better playtesting than america, how this wasnt foreseen is fucking goofy.
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>>171232517
the stream
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>>171230345
>>barrier doesn't stop links
It does thought.
It says you can declare 1 monster card type, not that you can declare Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Pendulum.
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Guess we're getting the 20AP cards in Duelist Saga
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>>171232669
>Envoy reprint
Nice.
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>>171231786
>>Kaijus not being used as intended and being thrown into every deck because "lol interrupted kaiju slumber free 600 damage every turn"

NOBODY PLAYS KAIJUS AS INTENDED BECAUSE THE DECK IS SO BAD IT ACTUALLY LOSES TO GOING FIRST

If they weren't Lava Golems, it would be a deck so bad, even Noble Knights would be better than them, that's literally their only redeeming factor.
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>>171232669
>Envoy reprint

It's not like the card isn't piss easy to get and irrelevant nowadays, but whatever.
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>>171232669
>Imperial Order
Oh god just leave that shit out of TCG.
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>>171232364
>it disappears as soon as you used it as materials for a new summon
>you can't negate a summon before the players pays its summoning costs.
Two unrelated sentence.
Also, the first one is wrong.

>it basically work just like a continuous effect.
Not really, no.
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>>171232756
Man that Blazar looks good.
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>>171232517
the card text
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>>171232648
please show vod

My locals are saying "Hurr you can hes a Kaiju" even if it says on the card that he has to be special summoned from the hand
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>>171232403
Any idea guys?
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>>171232910
just search ycs atlanta 2017 or something
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>>171232403
>>171232951
>No foil in the corner
Those are fake, Sumanai.
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>>171232652
It has rules text on it telling you what the card types are.
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>>171232472
TCG have Dark Hole at 2 and Raigeki at 1.
Of course Slumber will stay at 3.
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30830792
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>>171232652
>Declare 1 monster card type (Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Pendulum); for the rest of this turn, neither player can Special Summon monsters of the declared type, also negate the effects of all monsters of that type while they are on the field. You can only activate 1 "Dimensional Barrier" per turn.
>Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Pendulum
Have you tried reading the card?
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>>171232669
>BLS
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
RIP Chaos 2004-2012
>Imperial Order
We've come full circle now haven't we?
How long until Pot of Greed, Painful Choice, Delinquent Duo, The Forceful Sentry, Monster Reborn and all the other goodstuff are legal again?
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>>171232364
>you can't negate a summon before the players pays its summoning costs.
Before the cost for the summon, nothing has happened at all, so of course you can't do anything. The negation window doesn't start until both the material monsters have left the field and the monster has entered on-field limbo.

The crux of this whole argument is whether the materials leaving the field and the new monster trying to arrive happen at the same time, or if there's a period in-between where the materials' effects stop applying but not even a Counter Trap can do anything in that window.
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>>171232669
>deathcalibur
Good fucking god, I haven't seen that card in fucking forever. I almost forgot it existed.
When was the last time it even saw play?
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>>171232652
>pendulum monster
>xyz/fusion
I'll take the free +1, thank you.
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>>171232910
>https://www.db.yugioh-card.com/yugiohdb/faq_search.action?ope=5&fid=19857&request_locale=ja
ocg ruling link if that'll do anything
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>>171233046
>only thing Ive found was tcgplayer article how "some tournies allow it some don't"

just kill me
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>>171233810
I've tried that once, my locals said "But were playing TCG and not OCG!"

I'll just email konami something for a clear answer

>inb4 we don't know
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>>171226529
Spanish cards are cool. Except ''tuner'' being literally ''singer''
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Holy shit, how the fuck is Yuya's story deck supposed to beat Diapper Onion in Legacy of Duelist?

Literally what is his win condition.
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>>171234103
German cards are cooler
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>>171232669
>Duelist Saga is definitely 20AP
I need to know if this set includes Dimension Box stuff as well. If it is, I'll be buying one of those miniboxes at least.
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>>171234184
German cards have cancer wording, just like thier playerbase
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>>171233810
Weird, doesn't it just say "Cannot be Normal Summoned/Set. If your opponent controls a "Kaiju" monster, you can Special Summon this card (from your hand)."
No restriction from being Special summoned normally.
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>>171234137
Castel ;)
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30835634
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>>171232669

Someone redpill me on what 20AP is?
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>>171233984
wait, wouldn't they have to prove a mechanical difference?
I donno, use the fact that those faggots can't win a ycs yet somehow know this super duper secret tek no pro uses? Sucks man, probably going to have to sit through all of the atlanta footage just to play by the rules with those tards.
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>>171234310
If it doesnt, Pendulum Evolution would have it either way. It isn't like there is much in pendulum evolution as it is solely with a structure deck. Would make sense to put Dimension Box it too.

NOW WHERE IS THE BANLIST, KOMONEY!!!
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>>171234381
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Man, Pendulum sucks so hard compared to XYZ.

t. some girl who just learned about how pendulum works in practice an hour ago
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>>171234402
You have to special summon it properly first, it's not a normal kaiju card. You can normalsummon/set any other kaiju
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>>171235160
I know but usually cards taht need you to SS them first has "can't be normal summoned or set, must first be special summoned etc etc"
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>>171234793

20th Anniversary Packs. It's a set that Japan got with some anime/manga cards, as well as previously banned cards with errated text (Rescue Cat, Imperial Order, Future Fusion, etc.) and some reprints. Something like 40 new cards and 60 old?
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>>171234402
Yea, in the ocg its semi-nomi nature is noted just above its type/effect brackt text, but in english it doesn't have the "must first be special summoned..." because of that
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>>171235160
>>171235378
So the TCG version is actually different in function because it lacks the semi-nomi clause? or does the TCG version still follow the OCG Rules even if the card's text is different?
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>>171235118
>Pendulum sucks
>compared to XYZ.
that's why you use both
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>>171234310
Dimension Boxs will be released in the TCG as ''DP Dimensional Guardians'' :^)

Source: https://ygorganization.com/tcg-summer-2017-product-line/
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>>171234137
Try doing that after July :^)
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>>171232652
>Declare 1 monster card type (Ritual, Fusion, Synchro, Xyz, or Pendulum)
>( )
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>>171235746

Dammit, meant for

>>171235518
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>>171234679
He has a Youtube channel y'know.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vipy92MivGs
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>>171235510
Nope, fuck those faggot ass niggers at your locals. tell them to read the goddamn fucking rulebook before picking up thier shit decks
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>>171235746
>>171235902
The Monkeyboard doesn't give you a hint?
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>>171236072
Not that guy. But if only the TCG followed the OCG text conventions instead of KoA's """""problem solving card text""""" then so many problems like this would become instantly obvious and could easily be avoided.
Instead they have to print books like this.
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>>171236031
true kangelz are legit?
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>>171236072
Oh no I'm not the first guy, just taking note of how it lacks the usual semi-nomi clause.
This rule seems a little vague with it's wording, it might just be my reading comprehension but what i can gather from this passage it means cards that say "Special summon "X" means you can't Special summon the card unless it's already been summoned properly?
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>>171236415
Not really.
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>>171235812
Technically, it's just giving examples as to what a monster card type is. Any new types would get folded into the category.
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One pendulum deck was great. Shitters decry the entire mechanic.
One Xyz deck is great. And all of a sudden it's just that deck's fault but the mechanic at large is ok.
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Which is the best Metalfoes hibrid? Is Metalfoes Gusto any good?

I traded my Dragunity set for a Metalfoes one, but I don't know how to build a deck for it.
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>>171236452
it all depends on the card's printing date :^)
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>>171235545
You almost had me for a second.
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>>171236585
Free board vomit will always be hated more than abusable Extra Deck bosses.

Remember when shitters complained about Rekindling way back when?
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>>171236761
It's just that the rulebook seems to be way to vague about the point it's trying to make. Feels almost like it was thrown through google translate.
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>>171236625
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>>171236890
>Remember when shitters complained about Rekindling way back when?
REKINDLING TO 0
GRAPHA, GATES, AND SNOWW TO 1


Or was it Rekindling to 1, it's been so long since I've seen that copypasta.
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>>171234878
Well this image lists synergy with Wing Raiders and 20AP doesn't have any Phantom Knights or Raidraptor cards.
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>>171236625
Obviously Metalfoodiac:

3x Archfiend Eccentrick
1x Coach Captain Bearman
1x Dragoons of Draconia
3x Guiding Ariadne
1x Luster Pendulum, the Dracoslayer
3x Majespecter Raccoon - Bunbuku
1x Majespecter Unicorn - Kirin
2x Maxx "C"
3x Metalfoes Goldriver
3x Metalfoes Silverd
3x Metalfoes Steelen
3x Metalfoes Volflame
3x Raremetalfoes Bismugear
1x Rescue Rabbit
1x Speedroid Taketomborg
3x Speedroid Terrortop
3x Zoodiac Ratpier
1x Zoodiac Whiptail
1x Fullmetalfoes Fusion
1x Metalfoes Fusion
2x Painful Decision
1x Summoner's Art
1x That Grass Looks Greener
3x Zoodiac Barrage
3x Dimensional Barrier
1x Metalfoes Combination
3x Metalfoes Counter
3x Solemn Strike
1x Solemn Warning
1x Vanity's Emptiness

or be a goofball and go Yingyang:

3x Bi'an, Earth of the Yang Zing
2x Bixi, Water of the Yang Zing
3x Chiwen, Light of the Yang Zing
3x Jiaotu, Darkness of the Yang Zing
2x Metalfoes Goldriver
3x Metalfoes Silverd
3x Metalfoes Steelen
1x Metalfoes Volflame
2x Suanni, Fire of the Yang Zing
3x Zefraniu, Secret of the Yang Zing
1x Zefraxi, Treasure of the Yang Zing
2x Dark Hole
1x Metalfoes Fusion
2x Mystical Space Typhoon
3x Yang Zing Path
2x Metalfoes Combination
3x Nine Pillars of Yang Zing
1x Yang Zing Creation
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>>171236412
What OCG text conventions?
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>>171236072
what the fuck am I reading.
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>>171237232
>MetalFOODiac
>no hungry burger
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>>171237114
>GREAT SYNERGY!
they say that every set
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>>171237458
It basically just means "this set has cards from archetypes that appear in [these] other sets"
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>>171237301
Numbered effects. Official nomi/semi-nomi classifications. Not relying entirely on placements of semi colons mid-sentences or whole sentences changing the nature of the card in obscure ways not actually descrived by the text.

The PSCT really is trash.
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What was his name again?
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>>171237437
THE FUCKING RULEBOOK
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>>171237721
>tfw original manga only has a few chapters that are shit translations still for some reason, but it's fine
>get to Duelist
>this utterly disgusting translation and """typesetting"""
please tell me it gets better or do I really have to buy the official release for non-shit quality?
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>>171234381
But they have the best names.
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>>171237721
mako tsunami
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>>171237918
It looks like they left out an entire sentience mid-paragraph.
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So with Zoo cancer gone, it's clear True Dracos, Infernoids and Dinosaurs are good now since the consistency gap just got shortened back to Pre RATE.
So anything else to look out for?
Fluffals, D/D, Blue-eyes and Darklords don't look so bad now provided all they need to do is Kaiju the boss monsters and main Ghost Ash vs Noids
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>>171238046
sounds about right, this is KoA after all.
>>171237687
the shit is just collapsing under its own weight. but children fund this game so it's not going to get any better.
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>>171234103
>that name
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>>171238197
TDs and dinos relied on zoods to make their fields
Things will slow down.
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>>171234103
>>171238216
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>>171238197
>Infernoids
I have bad news for you
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>>171238306
Tru Dinos don't need zoods.
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>>171237953
Most chapters are scanned from the official releases but some of the later parts of battle city have had some really awful (but readable) scans, sometimes you get 2-3 chapters with bad scans then an entire volume of good scans, it's not consistant, i'd still highly recomend picking up the official releases if you can, because the manga is damn good.
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>playing arc v special and ygopro at the same time
>set up an AI match on ygopro, it's using fluffals
>my turn on ygopro
>opponent SS'd Frightfur Bear which it never does
>my turn pops up on arc v
>Frightfur Bear's on the opponents field
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>>171237998
wrong
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>>171232874
>Not really, no.
What's the difference in that situation?

>Also, the first one is wrong.
How is it wrong? Continuous effects stops working at the same time the card leaves the field or it stops being face-up on the field.
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>>171234103
Wrong, the spanish cards have some horrible foiling (shit is dark as fuck is disgusting) and usually have very fucking bad names.
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>>171238948
le "freaky fish guy"? get out taser
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Man, why did they ban all the Pot and replace it with jars?
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>>171239183
wheres my jar of desires fag?
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>>171237687
I don't fully understand what's nomi/semi-nomi classifications?
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>>171239183
Suitcase of desires +5 -30 open or lose this is how the game is meant to be played
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WHERE'S THE REST OF THE VJUMP?
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>>171238515
>Quasar_sees_Link_Summoning.png
>>171238545
I can't believe this one card killed the entire deck and also killed Invoked and she looks so smug and is even sticking her tongue out.
Can somebody edit in Aleister and Decatron behind her?
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>>171239423
How about a format where both players draw their entire deck at once and play until one of them runs out of cards or LP?
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>>171233705
>Before the cost for the summon, nothing has happened at all, so of course you can't do anything.
So you agree with me here, players can't do anything until the monsters have already left the board, which was my point.

>period in-between
Do you think that somehow vestiges of the card that left the field still lingers on the board after it being used as material to summon something?

>not even a counter trap can do anything in that window
Those "windows" exists, and continuous effects are one of them. You can't answer to a continuous effect with any kind of speed, because it has no activation required, its effect simply starts and then stops, it doesn't make a chain. And just like a continuous effect, you can't answer to a card having link markers, or having its effects being stopped, just like you can't answer to a card being Earth.
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>>171239812
>Flip for initiative
>P1 MP1
>P2 MP1
>P1 BP
>P2 BP
>P1 MP2
>P2 MP2
>EP
>Determine winner
>Alternate initiative if none and start again
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>>171239360
Nomi: Cannot be special summon except by...intricate summoning conditions here... and cannot be special summon by other ways.
Semi-Nomi: Must first special summon this card by...intricate summoning conditions here...

Idk moonese, but I imagine they just label their monsters NOMI/SEMI instead of taking valuable card face real estate with 3 sentences that amount to saying "this is a nomi"?
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>>171239924
>Do you think that somehow vestiges of the card that left the field still lingers on the board after it being used as material to summon something?
If the card leaves the field in the middle of multiple events that are treated as occurring simultaneously, then yes.
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>>171240520
Right in the line with the type and card type
[special summon] [special summon only]
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>>171240520
How would this be done in english to shorten it?
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>>171241158
>in the middle of multiple events that are treated as occurring simultaneously
Tell me where on the rulebook it says that it occurs simultaneously. If you actually read the rulebook, you would see that is even states the opposite, that those steps does not occur simultaneously.
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>Tyrant banned
Wut
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>>171211257
>slumber
>melodious
What did he mean by this?
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>>171243302
Preemptive memecombo stamp out. It was a funny gag to pull off though.
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>>171243547
>when you put your dick in a vagina, you become homosexual
That's NOT how it works, not usually anyway.
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>>171243745
>kaijus do nothing without slumber
>meloudious do absolutely nothing but turbo out their lock
>slumber did something about the melodious lock
What's it like being a retard, Anon?
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>barrage already down to $60 and dropping
>most expensive dridents and broadbulls are at $20
>mfw
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>>171244087
Slumber did nothing about the lock. The kaijus themselves did it all.
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>>171244087
>not running a full kaiju deck with the field spell
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How long until construct comes off the banlist?
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>>171244210
>slumber did something about the melodious lock
That's what I implied, Anon.
The other, Anon is the one who said that slumber being to 1 someone kept Kaijus from being an out to Melodious.
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>That one anon never gave me his address so I could send him the alien cards
What a shame
>>
So assume that the TCG just bans Drident and Barrage and leaves Rat untouched.

What happens with Zoo down the line?
I only see it being unplayable shit until Decode Talker (or similarly strong link-3) comes along at which point they just become a Decode Talker turbo deck.
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>>171180540
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>>171245215
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Okay, everybody on the bus.
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>>171244285
Dont most use the field spell?
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>>171245520
Is there a compilation of lightning punches?
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>>171245728
Either player can use the field spell and since you need to give the opponent a kaiju to summon that may not go well.
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>>171245751
there's like 3
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Gagaga Structure Deck soon?
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post dumb cards
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>>171246059
dumb cards
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>>171245959
Ah thanks. Ive literally just finished building a GreyKaiju so Im yet to playtest or get a feel for it yet. My other decks are KotSS/Exodia/6Sams/Vicviper . So not exactly higher tier
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seriously, can anyone explain to me how yuya's dogshit deck is supposed to work?
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>>171246007
I want to FUCK Gagaga Sister!
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>>171245520
>Beats all these monsters
>Loses to a giant black ball

Its too bad the wicked avatar is so annoying to summon
>>
>>171246419
As of July, it doesn't.
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>>171246578
Everything loses in battle to a big black ball.
>>
>>171246419
It works by drawing the right card at the right time, just like Yoogi.
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>>171246627
Well everything but a super amped up Obelisk the Tormentor with Infinite Atk so they destroy each other.
>>
Are there any other card art that are like this?
>>
>>171246419
Pray to god you get an action card
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>>171246419
Are you serious anon? Yuya's deck is rather straight forward, Performapals swarm and fuck with attack and defense by themselves and if Odd Eyes Synchron is printed they'll be able to do more than Xyz and Fusion summons. Pendulum Magicians are all about search and summoning back the materials to either get out Zarc or to bring out other xyz/fusion/synchro monsters. If you're talking about monsters like Odd Eyes Raging and Rebellion Dragon and Nirvana High Paladin. They're for fun.
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>>171246891
Revival golem.
Black Lotus.
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>>171246793
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80fbdQBwbO4
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>>171246419
What do you need help with?
>>
>>171246989
How am I supposed to swarm anyone with anything, when I can only pendulum summon lvl 3s until I get the lvl1 magician in one zone and the lvl8 magician in the other zone - which you can't even put in there unless you have no monsters.
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>>171246419
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>>171247131
use the pendulum pals
use the pend sorcs
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>>171247176
Yuya's true ace right here.
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>>171247201
Like what do you do with a hand like this?
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>>171247018
I never saw the last season of DM. Is this real? This looks and sounds like a fan animation.
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>>171247309
Stop playing bad games.
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>>171247018
Yugi is like the worst cheater in this entire game.

Hes worse than Judai "my life points hit 0 but i still activated this spell card that gave me back my life points even though the duel was over" Yuki
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>>171247347
After I survived multiple suicide attempts in real life when trying to beat Seeker with Yugi's story deck he used in that duel, I have sworn to myself I will finish the campaign with all story decks no matter what. This is the last campaign left.
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>>171246891
You mean, bland, uninspired, and out of place? Plenty.
>>
>>171247309
>he wants us to walk him through a fucking duel

Just stop playing you-gay-hoe, you aren't cut out for it.
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>>171247561
I already won the duel actually, but I felt bad about it because I got lucky (I had both the magicians in my opening hand) and was actually able to pendulum summon.
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>>171247018
he just used a monster effect that destroys monsters. That is power beyond infinity. This is why attack power is not everything.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQJk-5V3N8g
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>>171248067
>Duel Links
Don't you fags already have your own thread? Stay there.
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>>171247131
Oh, you're trying to do it like Yuya does in the show, Don't ever do that anon. I learned that the hard way with trying to use all of Yuma's syllable monsters, Just make Yuma's deck focused on warriors and he can use most of his xyz like Heroic Champion and Zubaba General.
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>>171248520
I'm using the exactly premade story decks for each duel, no matter how shit they are.
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And, again
>Get Timegazer Magician in pendulum zone near the beginning
>win
otherwise
>lose

Definitely second worst MC deck in the series after Yugi.
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>>171247415
You mean Jaden.
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>>171191673
>>
Will Super Poly be unbanned when Links arrive?

>tfw Heroes will never be a rogue tier one deck
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>>171191673
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>>171248650
Oh, god, have you tried Jaden's Neos deck,yet? Every fight with him is a game of chance.
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>>171249608
>tfw Heroes will never be a rogue tier one deck
>>171249608
hey have though?
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>>171249357
Pathetic
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New Thread:

>>171251114
>>171251114
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>>171249768
I wish Konami would get off it's ass and design variant card styles like this. Make their pull rate secret level and do them for key cards of archetypes despite the base rarity. I like the shitty (paper quality) Upperdeck ultimates because they blinged out random cards. We need to go back to that.
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>>171232489
In the TCG you can, until they officially present a ruling or update the card text it should be played as written.
It does not have a special summon restriction, just an additional way to special summon.
You can slumber it out to the opponents field in TCG. While OCG has a different view on the card due to reasons, the TCG is officially separate from the OCG.
OCG has been stated many times through official channels to not have rulings applicable to the TCG.
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>>171205994
Hopefully when Nightingale comes to TCG we will be able to play this for a while
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>>171217352
First anon was only partially correct, They said every 3 months, but no reasons toward dragon rulers.
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>>171251354
i said, there's a ycs in tcg less than 3 month ago where the judge there ruled it that they can't summon mecha-dogoran with slumber.
then again, there's also the case of chain disappearance killing ed monster, so take that as you will.
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