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Report and ignore it.

How fares your empire, /gsg/?

This day in history, March 15th:
351 – Constantius II elevates his cousin Gallus to Caesar, and puts him in charge of the Eastern part of the Roman Empire.
1493 – Christopher Columbus returns to Spain after his first trip to the Americas
1672 – Charles II of England issues the Royal Declaration of Indulgence.
1783 – In an emotional speech in Newburgh, New York, George Washington asks his officers not to support the Newburgh Conspiracy. The plea is successful and the threatened coup d'état never takes place.
1820 – Maine becomes the 23rd U.S. state.
1848 – A revolution breaks out in Hungary. The Habsburg rulers are compelled to meet the demands of the Reform party.
2011 – Beginning of the Syrian Civil War.

>News
CK2 Monks and Mystics is out. Check the 4chan archive.

EU4 - 28/02
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/eu4-development-diary-28th-of-february-2017.1001995/

>Random Country Picker
http://randomcountry.gbasood.net/

# Archive (mods only)
https://mega.nz/#F!plMxFYTB!sn9MTrvJ0tYjWSHgM8CZow

#Where to get these games
http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume

# Mods
>> READ THIS FIRST.
http://pastebin.com/cCdcev76

>>[HoI3] - Flavormod
https://mega.nz/#F!GBByDSgS!9ia87JfAeOQgADjGq9y4hw

>>[CK2] - Anon Music Mod
https://mega.nz/#!PQgxyACD!bpcXXoWI3Pfu_PJ1_sz5D7wKYO2OStEWr_npgpw0B_w

>>[CK2] - After The End
https://github.com/notalbanian/postapoc

>>[V2] - Historical Project Mod 0.3.6.1 - 27/11/2016
http://pastebin.com/66gpxbKk

>>[V2] - Napoleon's Legacy v0.3.1.7
http://pastebin.com/sN1g69sr

>>[V2] Alternative Flag Pack V10
http://pastebin.com/PRQH8vcV

>>[V2]Africa Mod
http://pastebin.com/kyMpRZcQ

Old Thread >>171134915
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Reminder to report and ignore shitposting.
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>>171140167
based
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La Plata
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>>171140167
white men
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>Playing the Sengoku port to CK2
>Trying to flatmap it
>The water keeps showing up black
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
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>>171140319
>playing before 1066
>creating ahistorical empires and making the game even easier in the process
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>>171140150
Once again, why was HoI4 removed from the OP text but not from the infopic?
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>>171140998
autism, "stop liking what I dont like" but also laziness
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>>171140319
>Vanilla
>"the Strong" instead of Pendragon
Disgusting

>>171140998
Are you referring to the HoI4 mod that was up there?
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>>171141156
I'm actually thinking of renaming it Great Anglia and culture converting the islands to anglo-saxon, because fuck british culture we're germans.
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>>171140319
>.wav
I sea what you did there
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Can somebody tell me how the cultural 'barracks' work in demesne holding?
If I have 2 holding with housecarl training grounds, does it only improve the heavy infantry from each holding or does it stack?
Does it improve retinues?
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>>171141156
>Are you referring to the HoI4 mod that was up there?
Yes. There were two I believe.
I guess I'm really just probing to see if I can get away with messing with the OP text next time I post a thread myself.
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>>171141710
They were two rather unpopular mods for an unpopular and underplayed game and were replaced with mods for more popular games.
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>Tfw you don't have enough time to fill in the borders for your puppets that you want
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Can you form South Africa as Germany? I aldready have Transvaal and Oranje in my sphere, but Britain is about to annex Transvaal and I cant save them, what do I do?
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>>171142881
gee Billy, TWO Persias ?!!
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>>171141710
mess with the OP all you like.

This thread seems very quiet is there another 2 or 3 been made or something?
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>>171143101
I miss this
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>>171140150
Anyone give advice on Austria in EUIV.

I'm attempting to do all the reichsreforms.

I can't seem to get all of northern italy into the empire in order to counter the shadow kingomd and 'rein in northern italy.

I always get everything up until Rome which I can't take because of warscore as its worth so much.

Do you actually have to conquer and annex this territory? How do you do it without a stupid coalition war (bad game play design imo, these coalition wars before 1650 are absurd).

Is it worth doing the anti-shadow kingdom decision? Should i Just go on without it?

Also, I can't seem to get Bergundian succession crisis to fire in my last 3 runs to 1500. Just bad luck or am i missing something?

I usually open by allying england, castille, Bohemia and Hungary. The latter three for the obvious high chance to PU and England just to keep them off my ass for a little longer should I inherit lowland provinces. It works really well for keeping the peace with the majors while I mess around in Italy.

Would it be wiser to ally HRE states in Italy and potentially just cede territory to England/France should they get greedy and try to take it?
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>>171143973
ally Milan Hungary, Bohemia and Cologne
go for venice first
then go for papal land
take everything but rome in one war
then rome as the last province
pass decision
release rome via event
I could do that by 1480 and it took me 300 years to get a PU with bohemia step up your game scrub
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How do I find how much food is in my stocks while secluded? I get events saying -1 and stuff, but there doesn't seem to be a counter on the UI
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>>171144565
Still dumb how they work on things like the surrender of maine rather than Spain getting and losing a Hapsburg
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>>171144660
I've gotten PU with Hungary and Bohemia but never got all the northern italian provinces without getting fucked by a coalition.
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How do I get the Force Migration CB so I can push south american tribe nations away from my colonies as Castile?
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I want to meme some greater sakartveliuns (georgia for you westerns) in HPMeme what borders should I aim for my dudes??
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What is the diffence between the ModWithNoName and GSGVickyMod?
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>>171145356
one doesn't have a name and the other does
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>>171145267
Byzzy Borders
displace all turks, armenians and greeks
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>>171145203
only native tribes have that casus beli, also why are you moving them away and not conquering them, then leaving your colonial nation to deal with them
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>>171145267
Transcaucasia (with states you can get cores in only) or bust
Altervatively, use the Togo-Georgia mod MCG was working on.
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>>171145448
Ok, i just figured that out the hard way.
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>>171143973
>Anyone give advice on Austria in EUIV.

I'm doing this just now and I'm going to have it done by 1470.

First war - give Brescia to Milan even if you allied them or not, take the province with the fort for yourself and Istria for the missionc and give Dalmatia to Hungary (I'm assuming you allied Hungary)

Truce timer - 1460 if you can take Venice proper. Maybe later if you can't. Don't take war reps or money.

Second war - Take Urbino and the provinces next to it, leaving 2 for Rome and the one in the middle of Italy.

Giving Brescia to Milan if key to keeping your AE low. Also you need the Relations Boost advisor, not diplo rep.

For the time inbetween wars just do some peacekeeping in The Empire.

Your first war with Rome will end and the truce timer will be between 1461 and 1470 depending on luck with sieges.

If Rome or Venice ally France you have no chance of doing it.

The Burgundian Succession is entirely luck based unless you start waging war against Burgundy. Burgundy and his goon squad can be a tough customer and you might not have the ability to fight all of this and do the Shadow Empire so pick and choose.
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>>171142971
Can somebody help me?
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What's the best game for me who want to live carolus rex, but with some good military sistem and the political side existing?
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>>171145843

>Altervatively, use the Togo-Georgia mod MCG was working on.

Was that ever finished?
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Is the Divergences of Darkness mod for Vicky 2 good?
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>>171145816
Well I can't declare war on them because I have no CB. I obviously don't want the -2 stability hit. Also I haven't formed any Colonial nations yet.
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>>171146645
No but it's still pretty fun.
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>>171140150
Why the fuck did you re-add distant worlds to the OP?
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>>171146951
>not getting Religious ideas
It's like you're an atheist or something
CARLOS I DEFENDER OF THE FAITH
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>>171140280
>SimCity4.jpg
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>>171141845
>underplayed
Even knowing about that shit is overplaying it.
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>>171147078
Distant Worlds is a Grand Strategy Game.
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>>171147384
I meant underplayed as in no one plays it not that I think more people should play it.
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>>171147315
>not Cities: Skylines
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>>171147418
Achtung - Steamcordplaza!
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>>171147495
The fact the game exists in this universe means it is overplayed in every single way.
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>>171147517
Cities: Skylines can handle curved roads, sloped terrain, and highway systems. SC4 on the other hand uses an outdated grid system.
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>>171147517
>>171147698
I fucking love building dams in that game to terraform lakes and streams.

If only the Nazis had won, we'd have irrigated the entire mediterranean
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Is Stellaris a decent game if I'm familiar with Paradox games but never bought one before?
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>>171147518
Not an argument.
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>>171147971
Fuck off back to >>>/r/paradoxplaza, you fucking kike.
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>>171148027
I mean I wasn't trying to shill for a year old game but if this place is actually this autistic I probably shouldn't ask for game advice here anyway it seems
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>>171148140
Jesus Christ, please tell me you are fucking trolling right now, I can't fucking handle this.
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>>171148198
Take your autism meds and go back to playing the paradox games you deem suitable for discussion
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>>171147971
not really, It's a game by paradox but more 4x than grand strategy. mediocre overall.
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>>171147971
Really unfinished.
You would be better off playing EU4 or CK2 (If you are more attracted to the time period and the dynasty sim) as a first game.
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>>171148275
You are fucking abhorrent.
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>>171147971
Yeah, it's a really damn fine piece o' a game, just a little rough on the edges but it's normal with the genre. Ignore the redditors saying it's bad.
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》171148432
>Ignore the redditors saying it's bad.
You're not even trying to bait correctly. No (You) for you.
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>>171146343
>Giving Brescia to Milan if key to keeping your AE low. Also you need the Relations Boost advisor, not diplo rep.
Do you lower AE by selling provinces?
Thought you just lowered AE by losing provinces in a war.
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>>171148871
Damn, I'm sorry to hear that. Isn't it treatable though?
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>>171148917
you too

>>171148945
usually but it really whirs quite
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This is what happens when Distant Worlds is in the OP. Remember that.
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>>171140167
You hear that shit randy? >>171149665
REMEMBER IT.
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Rate my plans for a comfy, moderate Kingdom of Saxony. Also, can some one give me a better color to use than this?
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Finally a good gsg thread
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>>171149836
That's a fine Kingdom of Prussia, but 'tis no Saxony
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>>171149836
#FF69B4
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>>171149953
I yam what I yam.
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>>171149836
>not taking the duchy of prussia and making it a kingdom
Come on, lad, what's the point otherwise?
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What mod allows for the most realistic american civil war and overall events. I really liked GSGvickymod but it is really out of date, so what has replaced it?
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>>171149935
What Gane is That
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CK2 does it again
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>>171150058
Everybody and their mom does that, I wanted something a little different.
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>>171150209
I have literally never seen a kingdom of Prussia jn CK2.
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>>171150285
Literally in the last thread
>>171104078
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>>171150495
That doesn't have the Silesian claw, just Prussia proper.
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>>171150495
That's /Prussian/ Prussia, tho.

Anyhow, different anon with a question - can a province culture shift if it's not on the mainland?
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>>171150628
The point is, people do it. Saxony is cool, and I'm playing the von Wettin dynasty. I might give Prussia to the Tectonic order though.
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Why do Steamcordplaza do this?
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>>171149836
You know, it annoys the shit out of me that to get Prussian borders you need to take a single one duchy bite out of Lithuania instead of keeping it within a few neat kingdoms. Really activates my autism.
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>>171147971
It will be great like, 4 years and 12 DLCs from now, but by then you will have to pay $150 to get the full experience.

That's just how Paradox games work. Nobody played CK2 at launch.
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So, uh, I've been playing the Republic of Amalfi and, while I was not Doge because dying at 53 and passing onto a 9 year happened
Then the Doge joined with a civil war against the Byzantine Emperor, lost, and the Emperor revoked the county of Amalfi from him, and took control of the Republic, which he couldn't rule as an Emperor.
But I'm still here, albeit landless. I have 1 trade port and, despite Amalfi being given back to a Lord-Mayor, I'm not instituted back into the Republic. I'm told I've the wrong type of holding in my demense
So what does that mean I can do now? I no longer have a palace, and I don't have any line of sight.
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>>171150796
Be thankful It's not vicky.
>cant add lithuania to the UBD without owning all their cores
>the one core that's always missing is Memel
>owned by a supergross germaniums that's all but undefeatable
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This is my first not disastrous game of EU4. I really need some advice here. I was planning on expanding south but the Turks have allied with the Muscovites. I've allied with Austria and Brandenburg but I don't think that's enough. I'm a couple years away from forming the Commonwealth, but I feel like if I wait I'll end up in a war with Denmark and miss my chance.
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Why the fuck does Syphilis even exist in CK2 (outside of sunset invasion) It didn't fucking exist in Eurasia during the middle ages.
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>>171151190
>STDs are unrealistic
>but aztecs crossing the atlantic ocean in the 8th century is believable worlds
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>171150963
Am I destined to only be able to succeed at Republics with the Sea Jews
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>>171151410
I can't wait to get depressed and kill myself because I finish all my campaigns to the end
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>>171151328
>reading comprehension
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>>171151587
>>171151410
Try norse merchant republic
Sail the rivers
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>>171151628
Sorry anon, I misread it.
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>>171151713
your not me
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>>171151713
it's ok anon, I still love you
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What mod do you guys use for Victoria 2?
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>>171151691
I did it once as Finland, but my need to reform my religion made me accidentally elect a Count to succeed after 3 generations
Is it any better with Norsemen?
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>>171151190
There's actually mean some theorizing that there was a Eurasian form of Syphilis already present, it was just an extremely mild form with barely noticeable symptoms that your body cleared up and cured with no trouble. Sorta similar to how American Syphilis behaved in the natives. Then it was the cross-genetic exchange between these two strains combined with each population's respective lack of resistance to the other's strain that lead to the potentially deadly and virulent syphilis we know today.

But you're right that syphilis as present in CKII (potentially deadly major illness) should not exist regardless, because even if the Eurasian strain existed it'd basically amount to a trait like Lover's Pox only temporary in game terms.
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>>171151094
Ideas?

You have renaissance right?

That is your plan for colonialism?
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>>171151969
Caleb's Political Titles
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>>171140167
Respectfully Disagree x1
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What's the best way to get all my counties back up to prospering again, I had finally managed to get the majority of them to rank 3 when the Plague ran through.
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>>171152157
I have Renaissance. I went with Innovative and Offensive ideas. The only time I've lasted long enough to get Colonialism is when I played Portugal and originated it. Livonian Order is my vassal btw.
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>>171152323
I always just kept my coffers stuffed so I could pay up whenever an event fired.
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>>171151587
So I'm sticking on, just to see what happens
And it seems like I've become a courtier
I no longer get events, things just kinda happen automatically, like doing multiple events for the Satanism even though I haven't seen a single pop-up (I have rivals, and apparently sacrificed a guy to Satan)
My leige is the Emperor though
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>>171152562
Disrespectfully agree x1
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>>171152362
Is muscowy allied to someone else?
Are they guaranteeing someones independence?

that is a common way one can fight one part of a strong alliance.
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>>171151984
Yeah, that's what I thought. Are there any mods that remove great pox?
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>>171152725
I wasn't given an option to name my child
My heir was betrothed but nothing happened. I broke the betrothal and now they're married
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>>171152754
Hmm, looks like their only other alliance/guarantee is with Denmark and vice versa. I think I could win that war if my allies help, is there sneaky way to start it? Supporting independence of Sweden maybe?
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>>171152869
Never heard of one, no.
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>>171152942
My liege is now the Doux of Thrace
He has Glitterhoof in his council
I am a conjurer for the Satanists
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Anyone wanna play webkinz with me
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Jesus fucking Christ, lads, I am so fucking pissed at how fucking shit Paradox is.


Right, so let's talk context here, China in EU4 is shit, it's plain to see. They have this mechanic "mandate of heaven" where if China loses legitimacy/stability then they split into about two dozen different tags, Wu, Xi, Min, Ning, Tang, Chu, Huai, Miao, Qi, Qin, Shun, Yan, Jin, Liang, Changsheng, Dali, Shu, Yi, Zhou, right.

These little niggers, they never unify China, ever. Because a two province minor conquring China just doesn't work in this game for the AI, they're too retarded.

Paradox, in their infinite wisdom have seen this problem and made sure it's never an issue. What they've done is incredible, unbelievable.

So, when China loses it's mandate now, in the new DLC, aimed solely about East Asia, that they actually spent money developing, yeah? Well now, wow, woah, they're revolutionised it. So now when Ming loses it's mandate what happens? See, the expected thing would be for one of these two dozen minors to take over China, that's what you expect would happen, right? Well Paradox are too smart for that. They have done something truly phenomenal.

They made it.

Hew boy, they fucking made it.

They made it so, when Ming loses the mandate, you know what happens?

When Ming loses the mandate of heaven, what happens?

Vietnam becomes the emperor of China.

Fucking yeah boys!

You fucking heard, Vietnam becomes the Emperor of China. Heh, but it's not just them, Korea, Tibet, Bengal, anyone who borders China can become Emperor instead. Believable fucking worlds.

They essentially just ported the HRE mechanic to China and called it a day.

So what used to happen was China would break into warlord states, but now Vietnam becomes China. What sort of fucking genius comes up with this mechanic? Who fucking made this, developed it, then decided it was so great as to make a DD about it? This is the fucking state of Paradox in 2017. Monopolies ruin industries.


BOYCOTT
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>>171153265
I love video games
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>>171153495
PERMANENT CLAIMS
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>>171153495
dude just come and play webkinz with us
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>>171153495
>Bengal
no they can't because they're muslim
you have to be in the eastern or pagan religous group
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>>171153739
rude post, thanks janny
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>Blank event spam
>Can't find the syntax issue
CUT MY LIFE INTO PIECES
THIS IS MY LAST RESORT
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>>171154065
fug is he here
tezt
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>>171153495
That doesn't make any fucking sense
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>>171153495
Can Japan do it?
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>>171154189
Look at the map though, thisnwould atleast be excusable if it worked, but instead it shows 6 different countries blobbing into China, one of those being Japan.
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>>171153968
Could an imported from CKII norse nation set up a colony in east asia and thus become emperors of china then?
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>>171153495
Dai Viet became emperor because Dai Viet was a player supported by like 7 other players.
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>>171154292
Yes ;)
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>>171154275
>but instead it shows 6 different countries blobbing into China, one of those being Japan.
Dai Viet, Mong Yang, Ayathaya, Yamana, Uesegi and Korea are all players.
They consciously partitioned Ming between them.
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>>171154458
I can't decide if that's worse or not.
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>>171153739
What is a non meme game then?
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What's up with this guy's prestige?
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>I'm Anglo-Saxon
>one province becomes Norman
>marry the duchess
>our son is her heir
>die less than 20 years into my reign
>after she dies several decades later, I inherit it
>converted to Norman culture
>tfw I'm going to force English culture into existence
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>>171155020
He got, like, eight (You)s.
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>>171154551
The patrician's choice is to for a East Asian Co-prosperity Sphere
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>>171153905
webkinz?
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>>171155020
>paradox
>this atrocious at balancing
Why are they such a shit company?
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>>171155129
>He doesn't even know what webkinz is
>>>/p/aradoxplaza
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if onyl there was a way, to communicate SOUNDS throuhg PLAIN TEXT.....

I have something good for your alls listening pealusre
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>>171155231
>he doesn't know how to correctly link to paradoxplaza
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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Where I can find King of Dragon Pass gog version? It looks like steam version is broken.
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Are we being le raided?
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>>171155024
Why corrupt your Anglo-Saxon people?
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>>171155024
>blob into germany as anglo saxons
>leave Britain to the celts
>convert to some heresy
>tag over to France and become king as a norman
>get invasion cb from pope
>subjugate and form the HRE
>get English Germany and Norman France
worth playing?
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>>171155657
Anglos are already Celt-Germanic Mongrels, and I say this as a mongrel.
And yet we still rule the world.
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Will we ever get a good NWO again?
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>>171155750
>He thinks the English have significant Briton blood after the island was colonized by the Angles, then the Saxons, then the Danes, then the Normans.
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>>171155943
were livin in one budy
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>>171155963
>it was colonized by normans
>literally one family
You know fuck all.
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>>171156174
One family that replaced the entire upper class with itself.
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>>171155454
>>171155454
>>171155454

Pls help.
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>>170421991
when I try to do blankposting anywhere anymore it doesn't work

why is this

did they change something in like the past week
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>>171156402
sent ;)
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Is a custom empire based on Khazaria acceptable or I should become Tartaria? I don't know what is the most appropriate.
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>>171154065
>>171154942
What part of (Dead) do you not understand
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>>171156276
So, 1% of the population?
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>>171156647
thanks
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>>171156690
If you're ethnically homogeneous do Empire of Khazars
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>>171156663
I always wanted to know this
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>>171156647

Sent what?
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>>171155454
theres one in le pirate bay, no need to thanks
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How to win the war as Harold of England in the 1066 start?
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VIVA PERON VIVA PERON
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>>171153495
RoTK is the best we'll get for a Three Kingdoms/china grand strategy
just Shu-Han my shit up.
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>>>/r/15276304
>>>/r/15276304
Migrate when ready
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>>171157030
t. prcanon
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>>171156895
the thing you're asking for
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>>171157115
t. Paradox Development Studios
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>>171157298

Where?
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>>171153495
So it was bait?
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>>171157346
why do you always refuse to talk to me prcanon

also are you the same chink that makes the op
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>>171157490
sent
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>>171157619

What?
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>>171157729
to you
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>>171157617
>implying I'm a chink
I just want good games
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>>171157815

k going to check my mailbox.
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>playing eu4
>realise that the province of Bagdad is high development farmland and not low development desert
>notice the same for a lot of other sand nigger provinces
>compared to Castile which is relatively low dev drylands
>realise it's small things like this that benefit non yuro nations

When did you grow out of paradox games /vg/?
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>>171157994
What game
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>>171158115
is it there?
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>>171158182
RoTK 11
>>171158160
When I took the China Pill :^)
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>>171158160
Try not playing bad paradox games. Victoria 2 bases develope,ent on race, as it should be. The whites are at the top and the Africans are at the bottom.
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>>171158160
>playing eu4
stopped reading there tee bee eytch
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im here to tell you that even with 8 kid,s, 6 dogs, debilitating rickets & a filthy waterlogged home, that its still possible to be a Gamer
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>>171155320
Nigga are you stupid or something there's no r before the p in paradoxplaza haha like nigga can you spell or not?
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>>171158217

No.
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>>171158498
he's probably down to like 4 kids now
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Well I spent like 500 gold on mercenaries so that I can gain independence from West Francia.

Would you say this was all worth it? After I secured Flanders I just wanted to settle down for 50 years or so to build up my counties and produce a massive family of geniuses.

Also at some point Karloman gave me a vassal way off to the south so I guess that's free taxes.
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>>171158464

Name three good paradox games that aren't Vicky or HOI
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>>171158609
made me laugh, was it a reference to something?
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>>171158160
What is Fertile Crescent
The only thing stopped Baghdad from being the center of the world was the Mongol
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>>171158669
>not Frisian/Dutch
Walgelijk.
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>>171158904
hes on record for saying that he beat one of his kids to death
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>>171158540
I'll try sending it again

sent ;)
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>>171158885
Airfix Dogfighter
Dragonfire: The Well of Souls
Majesty: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim
Chariots of War
Crown of the North
Valhalla Chronicles
Jackie Chan
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>watching john green on china
>"Chinese emperors lived their life according to Confucian teachings, which meant that society was moral, hardworking, and as such was extremely stable and successful."
>watching john green on victorian values
>"european societies were often extremely xenophobic, old fashioned, bigoted, misogynistic, and stuck in their ways, these policies thankfully are gone now *shows picture of trump* ...majoritively"
It's fucking painful.
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>>171159530
>watching john green
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in eu4 when you progress to diplo lvl 9 and can upgrade your ships, is it better to just upgrade them and bare the cost, or to sell your current ships and then make more for the same cost + time? I don't care for the time and it seems like I'd save more ducats selling off ships
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>>171159530
Its fucking john green, whatd you expect?
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>>171159628
What is the source on this pic? Looks familiar.
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>>171159743
Michael Gira, singer/frontman of the band Swans
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>>171159630
Keep them mothballed as reserve screens for battles, or kust never upgrade if they're for trade as higher sjips don't improve trade gibs.
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>>171159743
whgatts the source of MY ASS
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>>171159630
>anime
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>171159997
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Trying to get GP and avoid a pan german assrape
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>>171158885
EU3, EU4 and CK2
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>>171159997
>complain about animu on the chans

please don't do that
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>>171160252
You know, you realky detract from the subtle humour of 4chan slang when you do this.
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>>171160412
>You know, you realky detract from the subtle humour of 4chan slang when you do this.
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>>171160379
Someonw should make an anime about animefags trying to defend their love of anime.
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>>171160543
or r*dditors coming here and trying to make it more like r*ddit
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>>171160490
>ywN be as pan-germanically anally raped as this
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>>171160379
>animu
I cringed.
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>>171160628
Or peoppe who have been here for years telling you to go to an anime board.

I'll cut you a deal, kid. I'll let you live but next time I'm sperging and somebody tells me to go back to /pol/ you have to defend me
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>>171160757
go back to /pol/
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>>171160865
f-fuck you anime fag you betrayed me
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>>171156758
Only part of the population that matters, let's be honest.
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>>171160757
?
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>>171161093
Well in that case every nation is Jewish.
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>>171155024
>Gospatric
More like Goosepatric hahahahahaha
>>
I FUCKING HATE EVERYTHING
>>
>set vassals to supportive
>vassal is loyal
>army has "allow units to attach" and it's near my vassal's army
>vassal ignores order and go fight THE FUCKING REBELS OF THE ENEMY
>my army gets stackwiped
I literally lost a war because of this shit.
Fuck you, fuck you, FUCK YOU. If you are not supposed to order vassals to attach their armies to yours, THEN WHY IS THERE AN OPTION FOR THAT?
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>>171161596
>the vassals of the nation you are at war with are default hostile to you unless you spend 60 spy mana on funding them
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>>171161738
>of the nation you are at war with
What? No, MY vassal.
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>>171161870
Yeah, I know, I'm drawing attention to another broken feature, that you are default at war with your enemy's vassals in the first place.
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>>171161985
Ah, sorry. (A bit mad about the ruined ironman, not your fault.)

Yeah, EU4 is broken as fuck, and they keep band-aiding it instead of improving the shitty features.
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>>171162167
It's post 2012 paradox, they don't care they just give the same old broken features a new interface and resell it for $20 every month.
>>
Whats the first things you guys always research in vicky2?
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>>171163606
medicine, then if I have time Ideological Thought, if not then wait for the philosophy tech
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>>171153495
I can't understand why you're so angry.
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>>171160628
Or /pol/tards trying to make the whole chan a stormfront's subreddit for 9fag!
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>>171163954
t. PDS
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>>171153495
Technically Korea and Vietnam are Chinese land. Also the hordes have come don and claimed China before. It does look retarded though.
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>>171164286
1× Agree
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>>171164046
>le /pol/ boogyman
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Well this game is going well
>Saxony is 1st in line for Emperor at the start of the game
>he dies 2 years later
>take United Provinces from Burgundy
>Take all the land from Venice
>Milan gets inherited by me instead of Republic because they lost a war so negitive prestige
Im at 20+ income a turn, set on grinding out universities, and have lots of vassals and room to expand. Games going great.
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>>171154235
Yes.
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>>171155024
only appears after 1100 :^)
>arbitrary time constraints meme
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>>171164357
>Technically Korea and Vietnam are Chinese land
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>>171164642
Korea was owned by the Chinese for centuries at a time its like saying parts of China arent Chinese because during certain times they werent fully a part of it.

Vietnam is like Ireland to China, they were owned for large periods of time, 500 years at the largest, and at the moment a puppet state. Though I guess Ireland is a bit more complicated at the moment.
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>>171155024
>>171164576
I requested an invasion on Kingdom of England after it formed as the King of Normandy, the semi-historical route.

After I conquered the kingdom I left every county to a dynasty member and gave him the kingdom, making him independent.

Unfortunately, it seems like the Anglo-Saxons are just being directly assimilated into Normans instead of becoming English because it's nowhere near 1100 yet. I fear that by the time it becomes 1100 all the Anglo-Saxons will be wiped out and therefore no English provinces will arise.

They're even spreading Norman culture into Scotland, and have an army and tax base far greater than my own. my child has eclipsed me
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>>171165325
those portraits alone make the dlc worth it. so good
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>>171165153
>and at the moment a puppet state
Do you know literally anything about geopolitics? Vietnam and China hate each other.
>>
SWMH 769 minimod when?
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>>171165489
t. paradox pr shill
They look like down syndrome Greeks with Scandinavian genetics.
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>>171165836
your inability to afford the dlc shouldn't cloud your ability to determine that the faces are objectively good, especially the females
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>>171165723
Anon doesn't know that Vietnam is slowly sliding under American vassal-hood because the Chinese are retards and thought everyone in Asia would just tolerate being bullied over land and ocean rights.
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>>171164286
Its scary to see that 4 years of stormfront astroturfing worked

Spoopy
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>>171165325
why didnt his culture become english?
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>>171166105
the flips can only happen after 1100
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>>171165931
>>171165723
Im pretty sure China has everyone in south Asia under their thumb. I mean the Han Chinese there are like almost 10%. If they told china to fuck off they would have 10% of their population to put down. Taiwan is basically little China with 97% Han.
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>>171166183
Han doesn't equal blind loyalty to China. Taiwan, for example, strongly opposes mainland China because of Communism. Han in Vietnam probably hate China for bullying them, since being in Vietnam they have to suffer the fallout of it too.
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>>171165917
>getting this vexed because I pirated it instead of buying
You're pathetic Johan, the faces look shit, we all know it.
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>>171165917
ayy
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>>171166340
Fair enough. America told Britain to go fuck itself despite being mostly english so I can see other people doing it even if they are a few miles from each other. Its just weird cause some of theyre greatest heroes are chinese freeing them from the chinese.
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>>171165917
>implying anyone from /gsg/ bought devil mana DLC
I love when people come here from /r/paradoxplaza and just assume we're a carbon copy of their personality on another site. You could not look more new if you tried.
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>>171166912
the devil memes can be disabled with a single click
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>>171167039
>implying people buy DLC to disable 90% of it's features
You just don't get it, do you?
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>>171167039
>pay for something to not use it
Haha oh wow now this is reddit
>>
>>171167142
>>171167159
But what about supporting Paradox?
Do you want them to stop making games?
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>>171167263
This has to be fucking bait, I'm dying.
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>>171167263
wew m8
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>>171167263

Good bait, I hope.
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>>171167263
>>
>>171167340
>>171167370
>>171167384
>>171167410
I love the fact that this makes people mad
What compelled you, specifically, to react to that?
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>>171167263
jesus christ
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>>171167460

IT WAS MERELY AN ACT
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>>171167468
t. a guy with one VPN, a cell phone, and a home internet connection
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>>171167460
Holy fuck he keeps going
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>>171167460
fuck off mosque
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>>171167515
>>171167558
Nope, not even me
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>>171167684
Not that guy.

What originally compelled you to respond to that post though? Just curious.
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>>171167663
Should have a "guide to basic MSpaint editing" tab open for maximum believability.
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>>171167663
I can change (You)s too
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>>171167340
>>171167370
That's how economy works, we can find the quality of the last DLCs too low but Paradox is diversifying, if they earn less money with their grand strategy games then they could stop making them at all.
For example even EU4 is probably selling a lot less than CK2 and maybe even Stellaris, so if the new DLCs don't sell well, well they could stop the series.
That would make a Vicky 3 even less likely, and the same also decline for the other gsg paradox games they could entirely stop making them, thinking that only CK2 had enough hype for their new ambitions.
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>>171167745
The fact it was a faggot from reddit/a shill from Paradox. #justhonest
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>>171167765
>>171167774
There's literally no way to prove I'm not that guy.
All of my paradox games are pirated. I guess I could post a screenshot of a folder that shows the zips I downloaded from mega or wherever, but you'd just say that's fake too.

I literally don't even disagree with you. I'm just wondering why you felt compelled to respond to the post we're talking about.
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>>171167849
>games you dislike selling less means they'll make games you like
>thats why you should buy everything so they dont stop making games
I honestly wonder whether you're a paid shill or just a colossal faggot.
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>>171167908

Hey anon, how do I properly install pirated DLC for my legitimately purchased EU4 game?

I used to just use an activator, but I heard that changed at some point
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>>171168054
I don't play EU4 at all. I also don't use steam, so I installed my CK2 DLC by using a cracked steam.dll file. If you use steam I think you need to use an activator, but I don't know about EU4.

There's also a .bat file going around (in the archive I think) that sets up your hosts file to block paradox from spying on your games, which should eliminate any concerns about using pirated DLCs. Assuming it's up to date.
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>>171168054
>the pr shill is now desperately searching how to pirate steam games so his bullshit claim that he pirates everything, honest! is validated
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>>171167958
If Paradox GSG games sell less, they will stop making them (And you forgot that they have other sources of revenues while only CK2 and Stellaris are the only ones to be a big thing)
And I don't even dislike EU4 or CK2, even if something is wrong with their evolution, at least for the moment.
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>>171167573
>tfw /wgg/ is dead
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>>171168258
I didn't reply to my own post
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>>171168348
Not if you post hoy4 here >:)
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Huh, somehow Kongo ended up going Catholic. Must have gotten a missionary event.
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>>171168353
Holy shit, if you're going to accuse people of samefagging atleast have some basis to it.
>>
>>171168471
I'm not
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>>171168258

Wait no, I just wanted to play a Byzantium campaign with MEAU and taxes
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>>171168402
I wonder what their fetish is.
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>>171168505
>I didn't reply to my own post
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>>171168589
Not you, you faggot, the guy you asked.
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>>171168650
So you absolutely refuse to (or can't) explain why you felt compelled to respond to that post?
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>>171168737
So what about that bothers you?
(Reminder, I haven't bought games from paradox)
>>
>>171168750
I already told you, you ignored me because my post didn't grt enough upboats to convince you it was factual. >>171167880
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>>171168839
I saw that, but you just deflected the question. You have no idea who the person who posted that thing about buying your games was. Why does some anonymous person saying that cause you to feel something that compels you to make a post?
Why you, specifically?
>>
Does anyone know how to mod war exhaustion in Victoria 2? I want to increase the % gained when colonies are occupied.
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>>171168958
I told you, because >>>/r/paradoxplaza and the forums are two places for people to be good giys, buy DLC just to disable it under a bizarre notion of "protecting paradox", despite the fact they are a huge multi-million, probably even billion dollar company now that doesn't need retarded fanboys to buy literally everything they put out to stay afloat, that sheep like mindset and the inability to out any rational thought into their actions distinguishes them from the sort of people I and I assume many other people here want to associate with.

Does that answer your question adequately?
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>>171169123

You could have just pointed out they use plebbit and still have proved your point you know,
>>
>>171169123
>probably even billion dollar company
Definitely not, but that's not the point.

>Does that answer your question adequately?
No. What compels you, specifically, to be the one to address this? Why did you take this action?
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>>171166183
China doesn't give a fuck about its expatriate communities. Cambodia had a sizable Chinese population before Pol Pot, maybe 5% of the total population and the cucks in Beijing didn't even file a complaint when the Chinese population of Cambodia was eradicated.
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We did it lads.
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>>171169080
guys pls
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>>171169508
Why though? Why would nations care if their colonies were occupied?
>>
What's your opinion on Steel Division: Normandy 44? It's published by paradox and made Eugene.

Also, R&I can fuck off I gonna talk about this game in this thread when it releases.
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>>171169592

I just think that the loss of large swathes of your colonies should have a greater impact on your war exhaustion than the 1-5% it currently does.
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>>171169771
wrong thread

>>171169837
why?
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>>171169771
That's clearly not a grand strategy game, anon.
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>>171169436
What I'm saying is that they could stop making gsg games if they sell less as we must compete with their new sources of revenues.
>The point is they're a company and we choose whether or not to buh things from them,
That still don't means they wouldn't stop to make the games you like they sell less because of bad DLCs
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>>171169771
Looks like company of heroes to me anon.
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>>171169771
>paradox's strategy games get less grand over time as their fans get more and more casual
They'll be FPS by the end.
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>>171169921
*if they sell less
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>>171169921
>What I'm saying is that they could stop making gsg games if they sell less as we must compete with their new sources of revenues.
And? You say this like Paradox is a good company now. Stellaris, devil mana, HoI4, these are not good grand strategies. If they stopped making grandnstrategy games it wouldn't be bad, Paradox died in 2012.
>>
>>171169436

>probably because He's a redditor

Well I think you're right. So tell him to fuck off instead of arguing
>>
>>171170052
But there is still hope
>>
>>171170239
If you tell them to fuck off they just come back, if you explain to them why they're retarded they accept it and change or fuck off for good.
>>
>>171169863
It could simulate shocks to the local economy? I mostly want to change it for gameplay reasons. A United Kingdom with fully occupied colonies should hurt it more than it does right now.
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>>171169863
>>171169901
I don't fucking care, it's publilshed by paradox, it's got panzers, and /rtsg/ is dead, I'm posting here.

>>171169950
It isn't even comparable, it's gonna be more like wargame but ww2 and interesting phase system.

>>171169967
>implying paradox ""grand"" """strategy""" """games""" aren't casual shite of the highest caliber and whose fans confuse it's obfuscating UI for genuine complexity

Paradox just the publisher anyway and won't actually have any hand in developing the game, thank god.
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>>171170323

Start calling him a nigger. Last time I lost my shit and started to do that he actually left.
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>>171170291
There really fucking isn't. They keep getting worse and there are no breaks. EU4 was worse than CK2, Stellaris was worse than EU4, HoI4 was worse than Stellaris and Victoria 3 will inevitably be worse than HoI4.
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>>171170357

Fuck off Nigger, you are not cute. You are not funny.Your website are the niggers of the internet who hijack and chimpout on all the other websites.
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>>171170357
wrong thread
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Lads i think things are going to get exciting soon.
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>>171170357
>I don't fucking care, it's publilshed by paradox, it's got panzers, and /rtsg/ is dead, I'm posting here.
Then you'll be reported, it's not Grand Strategy. And lashing out at anyone who confirms this fact will just cement your legacy as a steamcordplaza pro.
>>
>>171170357
>>implying paradox ""grand"" """strategy""" """games""" aren't casual shite of the highest caliber and whose fans confuse it's obfuscating UI for genuine complexity
>Paradox just the publisher anyway and won't actually have any hand in developing the game, thank god.
More complex than moving a unit in a different direction and then pressing end turn ad infinitum.
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>>171140150
Update the fucking EU4 dev diary R&I
>>
Jesus, antipope in a merchant republic is overpowered as fuck.
>>
>>171167849
>over 60 planned dlcs for hoi4 and stellaris is normal and how economy works
>releasing unfinished dlc for 15 dollars is normal and how it should be.
honestly kys lad.
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>>171170549
>then you'll be reported
Ooh, I'm shaking in me boots, R&I. Just you fucking
wait, I'll be regaling my exploits ITT when the game releases.

>>171170632
>More complex than moving a unit in a different direction and then pressing end turn ad infinitum.

It's a fucking multiplayer RTS you god damn mongoloid. Now go conquer fucking wari and encourage bureaucrats against the AI you juggernaut of strategical brilliance.
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>>171171676
See how quickly the Steamcordplaza member panics and reveals himself when met with any scrutiny.
>>
>>171169921

>>171171604

that shitty company needs to die. and no way in hell grand strategy games are going to die if paradox dies.
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>>171171835
>>171167263
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>>171171676
Anon it's a fucking /gsg/ thread, not /paradox/.
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>>171166912
To be fair, archivelad had to have bought it otherwise he couldn't have uploaded it.
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>>171168589
Cream API if you have the legit game.
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>>171171964
i am archivelad
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>>171171950
>>171167263
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What mods do you guys recommend for Victoria 2. I am looking for a good one for multiplayer. Vickymod was awesome but it is out of date so i am looking for a new one. What do you guys recommend?
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>>171168348
civ4xg allows rts and wg
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>>171172110
>>171172115
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>>171172115
HPM. or cold war improvements
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>>171171964
That's kill one person to save a thousand tier though.
>steamcordplaza killed our secure archive and now all we have is shady russian keyloggers
Sad!
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>>171172093
How did you get hands on it before Remzar or yarr had it then? Honestly curious.
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>>171172187
Or you could just torrent shit like every other computer literate person.
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>>171172187
Remzar's stuff is identical to the stuff that gets torrented though? It is literally impossible for you to put a keylogger in noncompiled plaintext files that comprise DLC, and you can download CreamAPI from somewhere else.
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HOLY FUCKING DEUS VULT

Why does Jesus love me so much? I'm literally the number 1 lucifer cultist in the world.
+20 Martial, god damn that has to be the most insane random event I've ever seen.
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>Command Over 400 Historically Accurate Units: Whether fighting for control in intense multiplayer battles with up to 10-vs-10 players going head-to-head, playing alone or working with friends in ranked matches, players will need to coordinate their selection of historically accurate infantry, tanks, aircraft, and support vehicles to counter enemy units in this Tactical RTS game.
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>>171172469
wrong thread
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>>171172469
>RTT
Anon this is literally not grand strategy
It's not even memery like Stellaris which is like a demented blend or HoI IV which is technically GS despite being shit
Even fucking Paradox tells you this isn't grand strategy, fuck's sake since it's tactical RTS it isn't evn strategy, it's tactics.
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>>171172536
>>RTT
haha lol U on dum thot
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>Real-world Tactics: Battles rage over three distinct phases, where different units unlock over time, mimicking the movements of real-world armies and adding variety to the ever-changing theatre of war. A dynamic front line illustrates the ebb and flow of the conflict. Pin down your opponent's infantry to gain the advantage and force a retreat, or push through with a perfectly executed plan.
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>>171172536
He'll just call you R&I, lad. He's steamcordplaza, it's what they do.
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>>171172656
wrong thread
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>Real-world Setting: Using the latest version of Eugen’s IRISZOOM engine, players can smoothly zoom from a tactical aerial view all the way down to a single unit, and see 400 different real-world vehicles and units designed with careful historical detail and accuracy. Maps are designed based on actual aerial reconnaissance photos of Normandy in 1944, requiring real-world tactics and strategies to cover and control.

>>171172536
>this is literally not grand strategy.

Disregarding that the term "grand strategy" is a bogus term popularized by paradox marketing department, and generally means fuck all, I never really implied otherwise.

>>171172670
You're paranoid delusions are really cute.
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>>171172860
wrong thread
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>>171172860
wew can't wait for you to quit and then no one posts this again because it isn't gs
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Well lads i have 2 mil techs on Spain and 1 on France, they just got out of what looks like a costly war, so this looks like the best chance i'll get.
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>>171172860
Grand Strategy actually has a definition in the real world but even with the absurdly wide actual definition that would include Total War, Civilization, and RotTK (all of which have their own generals so don't start), your game doesn't fit.
It really fucking is time to stop, this is unironically the wrong thread. The title is /gsg/ - Grand Strategy Games, not Paradox General. Magicka is not welcome here, for example, and neither is Age of Empires II despite it being objectively better than shit like HoI IV.
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>>171172860
>You're paranoid delusions are really cute.
You literalky called me R&I a few posts up, because I told you whqt everyone else is telling you, see >>171171676
>Ooh, I'm shaking in me boots, R&I.
Why must you steamcordplaza lads be so cancerous?
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>>171172968
Well go for it I guess
Who are Spain's other allies? Portugal isn't going to be a joke.
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>>171172941
Steamcordplaza do this with everything, Distant worlds, Aurora, Stellaris, HoI4, they just love causing shit.
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>>171173232
HoI IV is technically GS though, and Stellaris was literally one guy's autism reviving /civ4xg/.
No comment on DW or A4x.
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>>171172092

I'm retarded. Do I just extract Cream API into my steam folder for EU4?
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>>171173289
Yes, back up the original DLLs if you have to overwrite something
It's been a while since I used Cream so I don't remember if it's an overwrite.
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>>171173289
not going to spoonfeed you, faggot.
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>>171173031
I crushed the Spanish army in Maghreb, apparently being 2 mil techs on someone is really good. but i mismanaged my galleys and lost half of them so i do not actually know if i will be able to get into either Sicily or Spain proper.
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>>171173279
My point with HoI4 is that it's objectively shit and they spam it wildly.

Aurora, Stellaris, and DW are 4x, they shouldn't be in the OP.
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>Outplan, Outsmart, Outgun: From battlegroup customization to troop positioning and maneuvering, winning battles requires cunning and strategy, not just raw firepower. Each unit lost presents a growing tactical disadvantage, and players will need to fight to gain -- and keep -- the upper hand.

I really hope the game won't be shit, I need my fukken panzers.

>>171172985
I'll stop for now, but only because of you~

>>171173031
Steamcord or whatever other boogeyman doesn't have a monopoly on /gsg/ memes, and R&I is a straight up cunt.
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>>171173401
>objectively shit
>objective [opinion]
Nothing is objectively shit. I mean I agree it's fucking shit but then again it IS grand strategy despite being shit. Just don't respond if you don't like it, that's why I do.

>Aurora, Stellaris, and DW are 4x, they shouldn't be in the OP.
Well besides 4x being a subset of GS more or less by definition, Stellaris benig 4x is up to debate because it's a demented mixture. Either way I'm not asking for it to come back because that would just be stirring shit, it's sitting stably in /civ4xg/ after all.
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>>171173473
how desperate do you have to be to be a paid shill
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>>171173473
>Steamcord or whatever other boogeyman doesn't have a monopoly on /gsg/ memes,
They have a monopoly on shitting up the thread.
>and R&I is a straight up cunt.
Tell me how a message telling people not to shitpost is bad. The only people who take offence to it are shitposters, like you.
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>>171173473
wrong thread
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>>171173473
>I'll stop for now, but only because of you~
wow. you're really showing him. at the deadest time of /gsg/, where there's usually maybe 10 posts an hour. go get em
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>>171173520
>Nothing is objectively shit. I mean I agree it's fucking shit but then again it IS grand strategy despite being shit. Just don't respond if you don't like it, that's why I do.
They spam it because it is shit. All whilst posting "hehe you liqqy grandis sure ar mad about this superior game"

>Well besides 4x being a subset of GS
Didn't even read the rest of your post, lad.
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>>171173647
>They spam it because it is shit.
Sounds stupid to me. Maybe they're just randoms with shit taste in the thread.

>All whilst posting "hehe you liqqy grandis sure ar mad about this superior game"
I've honestly never seen this in relation to HoI IV, it's always CK II or EU IV. And anyway, it doesn't matter if they 'spam' it (there's like ten posts a thread about it tops) - it being shit doesn't mean it isn't GS any more than AoE III being shit means it isn't an AoE game. You can ignore it or shit on it but that doesn't mean it's literally not allowed.

>didn't even read the rest of your post
Define GS.
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>>171173762
It literally means it isn't allowed because it isn't in the same genre as the general. This is very simple stuff.
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>>171173873
>it isn't in the same genre
HoI IV isn't in the same genre? I can understand Aurora 4x and DW and Stellaris simply because there's already a general for it. I can understand Steel Division because it literally isn't GS. HoI IV is GS no matter how much you and I wish it wasn't and wish it never existed.
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>>171173762
>Sounds stupid to me
Do you even know what steamcordplaza is?

>I've honestly never seen this in relation to HoI IV, it's always CK II or EU IV. And anyway, it doesn't matter if they 'spam' it (there's like ten posts a thread about it tops) - it being shit doesn't mean it isn't GS any more than AoE III being shit means it isn't an AoE game. You can ignore it or shit on it but that doesn't mean it's literally not allowed.
It should be culturally disavowed here. Let the redditors have it, but we shouldn't have to deal with it. It is Grand Strategy, but it's solely used as a stick to beat us with by steamcordplaza.

>Define GS
Victoria 2, DH, HoI3.
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why the FUCK won't these counties convert? Catholic 100% and Romuva is at 30%. I've had court chaplains with learning ranging from 15~20 on this province for generations nows.
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>>171173921
Er no Steel Division or whatever this RTT is called isn't the same genre. Must have been confused...
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>>171173534
Wait, aren't I steamcordplaza?

>>171173579
>They have a monopoly on shitting up the thread

Wrong, that's the god given right of every /gsg/ denizen.

>Tell me how a message telling people not to shitpost is bad. The only people who take offence to it are shitposters, like you.

Because it's absolutely superfluous given that it's already covered by the sites rules and doesn't actually deter anyone from shitposting. It's absolutely asinine and only serves to stroke an autists ego who keeps making threads before the bump limit because he can't stand not having the first post. "Reminder to report and ignore shitposting" has become a fucking rallying cry of the shitposters it's supposed to deter.

>>171173617
You might want to work on your reading comprehension.
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>>171173928
>Do you even know what steamcordplaza is?
I've been on this site since before reddit existed and in the /v/ threads, yes I know what Steamcordplaza is. Thing is, not everyone who posts "thing I don't like" is Steamcordplaza. I mean it's pretty obvious when it's 100% them, see the last thread for more details on that. As for HoI IV posting I mean is there actual evidence of any sort that it's Steamcordplaza and not just people with shit taste?

>It should be culturally disavowed here.
I mean you're free to go ahead and try, that's what I mean by ignoring it or shitting on it.

>Let the redditors have it, but we shouldn't have to deal with it. It is Grand Strategy, but it's solely used as a stick to beat us with by steamcordplaza.
Yeah so go ahead and shit on it, just keep in mind it literally and tragically is grand strategy.

>Victoria 2, DH, HoI3.
This is like when asked to define fantasy you say "Tolkein, Discworld, D&D".
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>>171174013
Catholic Moral authority is at 100%*
The court chaplain on it right now has 22 fucking learning. Why won't this shit convert?
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>>171174127
roll 1d20
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>>171174058
>Wrong, that's the god given right of every /gsg/ denizen.
oh say can you see by that infopic...
>Because it's absolutely superfluous given that it's already covered by the sites rules and doesn't actually deter anyone from shitposting. It's absolutely asinine and only serves to stroke an autists ego who keeps making threads before the bump limit because he can't stand not having the first post. "Reminder to report and ignore shitposting" has become a fucking rallying cry of the shitposters it's supposed to deter.
You are literally a shitposter though, so of course you hate it.
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>>171174096
>Thing is, not everyone who posts "thing I don't like" is Steamcordplaza.
But it's such a convenient boogeyman..
>As for HoI IV posting I mean is there actual evidence of any sort that it's Steamcordplaza and not just people with shit taste?
People with shit taste are the "plaza" part of steamcordplaza, redditors. And nobody can deny redditors love HoI4, because they have shit taste.

>I mean you're free to go ahead and try, that's what I mean by ignoring it or shitting on it.
It already is, anyone not steamcordplaza hates it.
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>>171174313
>But it's such a convenient boogeyman..
That's my point, it's literally just a boogeyman at this point. I mean, sure, it makes sense from a certain point of view - it's nobody specific, just 'shitposters' in general. But then again I'm not sure HoI posters count as shitposters, despite having shit taste. It's like, I don't know, posting GoT (the show) in a thread about fantasy. Yeah you have shit taste but are you actually shitposting...?

>People with shit taste are the "plaza" part of steamcordplaza, redditors. And nobody can deny redditors love HoI4, because they have shit taste.
I thought reddit liked Vicky or something
And didn't Paradox Plaza fucking snap at the latest DLCs for CK II or am I being retarded?

>It already is
Well just keep it that way then.

Also, speaking of DLC - That new EU IV looks like pure memeshit.
>Japan can become the Emperor of China
>Confucian is so memetastically tolerant (??) that you can integrate every religion in the world, but only get a temporary 20 year bonus for doing so anyway
>Imperial Mana
>Press G to start a Golden Age
>hardcoded era start dates, era-specific GP railroading, and splendor mana
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>>171174176
>You are literally a shitposter though, so of course you hate it.

Good job on addressing literally nothing I've said. The R&I is superfluous bollocks that serves no purpose other than to stroke an autists ego who shitposts by making premature threads and engages in thread wars when his stupid warning doesn't get first post. You can dismiss me as a shitposter, but you cannot argue against anything I've actually said.

And another thing: meta posting is offtopic shitposting and by partaking in it you're a shitposter yourself, you self-unaware autist.
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Ayy going to start an MEIOU campaign.

Help me choose my cunt:
http://poal.me/f0ob2o
http://poal.me/f0ob2o
http://poal.me/f0ob2o
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>>171174947
No matter who you play, make sure to continiously add_heir until you roll a girl
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>>171175051
I only get male heirs, wish i could be like byzposter :(
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>get conned into buying yet another terrible CK2 expansion
>it's actually worse than the previous ones
I can't believe they actually coded the ingredients system with no way to use them and shiped it like that
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>>171172392
Here is my grandson of William the Conqueror, who happens to be a child of Satan.
I love this update
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>>171174947
looks like the anglos won .lad
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>>171175256
Not every country has the same chance of rolling women in MEIOU
iirc it's literally impossible for Chinese and Muslim nations, for example, while Byzantium gets a slightly higher chance.
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>>171140167
W&B
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Is HIP a good mod? The map seems beautiful at least.

What do you guys recommend for CK2?
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>>171176293
Vanilla
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HPM YOU BETTER UPDATED YOUR MOD BY THE END OF THIS MONTH OR.....
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I like to call this, South Korea mode.

Also I'm going to go for le left bank borders, not sure how it'll look in CK2
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>>171175882
>>171174947
>no decision for Angevin Union
Lame.

Goals?
France should be speaking English by 1821 I presume?
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>>171177161
Do you have additional tags on?
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Well, my attempt at getting as many PUs as possible started strong but turned out to be quite embarrassing.

I started with Milan in a royal marriage (his ruler was almost 60 and I thought this was all but guaranteed and went over the relations just for this marriage). When he turned 65 Milan changed to a republic.

I started with Castile. It was a longshot but I thought fuck it. Was drooling over Habsburgs spreading from Castile to Portugal and then me - much later in the game - forcing Unions that would bring half the world into the Empire. Castile's ruler did die at the age of 29 but Aragon got it because I didn't know the inheritance law.

England's ruler had the infertile trait so this was a guaranteed one for me. War of the Roses and they chose the House of York, deposing him instantly. Still, they've been useful in this Banhammer war against Burgundy so not an entire waste of a slot.

The only Unions I did get came by utter dumb luck. Bohemia within the first 3 years of the game and Hungary just chose to unite (something I haven't seen in the one or two games I've played before Austria). They're very good PUs (even if Bohemia is now a liability because he won't go from miltech 4 to 5 and gets stack wiped whenever someone looks his way) but the lesson is learned for me at least - you can fish for PUs but only dumb luck will get you them.
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>>171177119
Enatic primogeniture doesn't seem like a great system. Always need to look out and not accidentally marry your daughters patrilineary.
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>>171177613
Is it up to date with MEIOU 1.27?

I got the 1.26 version and updated it to 1.19, but I'm only getting the decision for the North Sea Empire.

I don't want to play England if I can't get the decision working
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We are truly blessed.
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>>171179709
>coincidental Australia
my sides shattered
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lel
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>>171179709
post more moshe
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>>171179709
>Coincidental Australia

What does it mean?
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>>171179984
Oy vey
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>>171180090
>black jews
https://youtu.be/0hPcuw9fYAw
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>>171180189
THAS RITE
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>>171177119
What the unholy fuck is this mod?
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>>171180596
Dark World
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For EU4, what's the best way for a noob to learn countries? Is it zooming out? Because the small countries are too hard to read.
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>>171181579
Just click on them, motherfucker
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>>171181780
It doesn't work well when I am trying to find what country geographically an event is happening. All I see is province names.
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>>171181838
Right click on the coat of arms of the country in question, motherfucker.
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>>171181838
Press f to pay respects then type in the name of the country
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>>171181952
Yes I know motherfucker how to go to their location, but what I am saying is that it's too hard to know which country is the one in question when all I see is province names and there's 2-3 small countries squished together.
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>>171182257
Country or province, sorry (the country will have a flag, the province will not if they share the same name). Was too busy memeing
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>>171182265
Just git gud, motherfucker.
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>>171182257
>>171181952
Is there a way to highlight the country or its borders so I know which one it is geographically when the map is a cluster fuck and it's hard to tell when you even center the camera on them?
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>>171182265
Honestly the best way to learn them is to just play the game. You'll start to recognize minors just by their colors and general locations.
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>>171182473
Use the province finder
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>>171182473
When you press f to pay respects it will highlight the province. Depending on colour it's sometimes hard to see though.
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why playing one of lower countries is so miserable in MT
>play holland
>have nice start, reconquer your 3 cores and start fabricating stuff on rest of my neighbours
>burgundy slowly devours few countries through ebin railroaded events
>there comes my turn
>i either can let myself get cucked into being vassal under burgundy or let them declare war on me and get fucked by them, france, and french vassals
made white peace through console because this retarded war doesn't even gives emperor call to arms to defend me, a member of fucking hre
fuck this shit, who the fuck thought it was good idea
i just want comfy tall game without being cucked by france
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>>171182564
>>171182528
Ah, didn't know. It's a shame there isn't a UI mode that lets you see countries easier with the country names being display and highlighted when you click on a province.
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>>171182653
venice
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>>171182653
Not sure how that mod works but the obvious answer seems to be "Ally the Emperor"
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>>171182653
Wait, what's MT?
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>>171180189
wtf
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>>171183026
Hellmann's Tariff
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>>171182753
Press f. Type in Odo. Click on Odoyev. Click on the highlighted province. Hover cursor over it and you get a tooltip instantly telling you the country
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>>171183550
And here's max zoom on a HRE minor that would probably be hard to find when you don't know the area.
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>>171182653
>made white peace through console

Stopped reading there

I sympathize but whatever happens it's never good enough reason to start cheating. If you're a man, delete your save and start anew.
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>>171183845
>>171183845
alright lad?
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>>171140150
Good morning Grand Strategy General!
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>>171184048
>>171184048
Thanks
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WHAT CUNT IS THE STRONKEST IN VIC2
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>>171184130
>spring
Lel
t.southern hempisphere pro
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>>171184225
>faggot
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>>171183815
alright i will let myself get vassalized by burgundy and destroy entire france from inside
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>>171184323
>im vassal under burgundy
>burgundy is french vassal
>france is almost willing to support my independence from their own vassal
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Is combat width the max width of cav and infantrie or just the width of the infantrie so I can add cav at the ends?
>>
if you guys could go back in time and change 1 event/thing in history, what would you change?
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>>171184909
Hitler won
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>>171184909
make sure roman empire doesn't falls and genocides germanic tribes instead
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>>171184972
>not genociding the jews before christianity and islam spawn.
hmmm.
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>>171185003
based Varg
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>>171185003
arabs would still find some way to create shitty religion and spread it around
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>>171185068
most crusades were a failure
get rekt Christcucks
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>>171185068
nah, more likely than not they wold just convert to zoroastrian.
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>>171185159
>implying
the crusades accomplished their purpose. its not the fault of the crusaders that the pieces of shit back in europe decided to betray them.
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>>171179706
I suppose I'll play Oman, the runner up, instead.

Goals?
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>>171185424
at least these borders + a lot of isles, lots of mercantilism and shekels, play tall, maybe colonize africa too
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Guys M&T in the archive, doesn't work on the 1.9 version. What can I do? Is there an up to date version?

Sorry for stupid question. Never used mods for EU4
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>>171185274
>at some point, the Duke of Kraków once explained to the Pope that Polish knights could not participate in his Crusade to the Holy Land because the trip would be too expensive and there was no mead or beer to be had in Palestine
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>>171185175
Naeh they worshipped their magic space rock long before islam, it was only a matter of time before the demon contained within would awaken.
They'd use zoroastrianism to make Zoroastrianism 2.0 which is basically islam.

>60-30 BC
>The inhabitants of the land about the gulf, who are known as Banizomenes, find their food by hunting the land animals and eating their meat. And a temple has been set up there, which is very holy and exceedingly revered by all Arabians.
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I installed MEIOU + Taxes, the 1.19 version...
When I start as BRA some African nations are revealed and one of them, Mutapa is a viable rival.

What the fuck?
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>>171185562
Not taking some CoTs in india?

One per trade node at least and go merch republic?
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>>171184727
lmao just open your blinds
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>>171185584
Please guys, really want to play it...
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>>171186273
just download it from workshop
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>>171186276
Have you taken a comfy land between the nile and the euphrates/Tigris?
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>>171186373
Don't use Steam

Can i still download it if my game is pirated?
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>>171184909
WWI never happens, or at the very least it stays as a far more limited war in the Balkans between A-H vs. Serbia and Russia.
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>>171186438
i would give you link but i dont want to get banned :^)
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>>171186405
Not yet. I'm doing Ideas Guy, so once I hit 500 shekels in income, I'll reclaim the homeland.
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What is a fun nation to play in the Americas in HPM?
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>>171186615
Chile
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>>171186615
California desu. Play USA til you take it from Mexico than release.
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>>171186615
America?
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>>171186615
Krakow -> Poland -> PLC
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Very professional, your holiness.
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>>171185584
>>171185584
No one can help me?

>>171186495
Thanks anyway.

Hate being such shit at these things...
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>>171187174
If you're playing on Steam you could just opt back to an earlier update I guess.
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>>171187247
Not playing on Steam.
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>>171187369
Well then I guess you should just play a better game then huh
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How do I git gud at vicky2?
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>Fantasy Scenarios
Maybe next time.

Going to consolidate rule over Southern Arabia before I expand outwards.

What ideas?
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>>171187424
Should have stuck with building liquor factories
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>>171187501
>encourage bureaucrats to 1% in all states then take admin spending down to 51%
>encourage intellectuals to 2-4% in all states and keep education spending maxed forever
>research the techs that boost research points and education ASAP
>healthcare should be the first social reform you take
>be prepared to research machine guns/gas attack ASAP

Go forth and genocide them all my son.
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>>171187671
What about the economy, taxes, factories, all that stuff?
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>>171187558
trade>mercantilism for sure
also colonization if you want south africa and madagascar
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>>171187671
Depending on your system, just tax the fuck out of everybody. You'll want to drop those rates a bit as you see fit, basically just check the pie chart to make sure your people are getting their everyday needs. If you're free market you're going to have to drop taxes on the rich so capitalists will grow and invest in your industry.

Don't start building factories until your literacy is beyond 30-40%. Check your RGOs and build factories in those states accordingly. Liquor is for printing money, build it in all your grain producing states. If you have coal, even better, build the glass you'll need for the liquor. Pay attention to the inputs for industrial goods and build an industry based on what your country produces.

State capitalism best capitalism.
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>>171188151
meant for >>171187949
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>>171187558
>>171188147
or
Or
Or I can realize how much of a retard I am.

British Isles + how much of mainland Europe?
Pyrenees to the Rhine will be as mush as I will hold directly
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>>171188329
reee play oman instead
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>>171188151
After getting that 2-4% clergymen in every province, what national focuses should I use?
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>>171188440
Craftsman in your industrial states, or soldiers, but soldiers won't get past 5% of a state's population. If you're feeling cheeky you could encourage a particular party loyalty but beware the consequences.

I have to go, good luck!
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>>171188329
>>171187558
PLEASE! HOW DO I GET THIS MOD TO WORK ON THE 1.9 VERSION OF THE GAME!?!
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>>171188329
>>171188392
>crash
I don't think I'll be playing MEIOU on my toaster anytime soon

>>171188612
You mean 1.19?
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>>171188653
Yeah, sorry
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If I declare war on Poland and manage to win as Austria and in the peacedeal I start feeding stuff to Pomerania, Brandenburg and/or Bohemia will they add that turf to the HRE?
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>>171188794
The workshop version seems to run ok for me, save for the crash, but I was closing the game anyway
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Is it good or is it bad to organize the african nations in HPM? Do they revolt for independence or they calm down more?
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>>171188876
Can I get the mod from Steam?

I didn't buy the game, it's pirated.
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>>171184323
alright fixed this shit
>tfw already second war for independence
thankfully based and questionably white anglos came to save me
i don't know why france wasn't called to this war but works for me
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I think I'm going to play a Kaiserreich game with Bulgaria.
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Anybody ever purged the army in DH?
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>>171147652
last time I checked, it was the most played paradox game after EU4, it still probably is
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>>171188940
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=234109254
Just use steamworkshopdownloader.com
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>>171191891
'no'
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>>171189264
what mod is that
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>>171192143
meow and talex
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Happily minding my own business colonising the new world and slowly building up a base in India, i've been allied to Castille/Spain since the start and out of nowhere I get a PU with them. I don't normally bother with stuff like that, I don't know the mechanics of personal unions very well so it just happened out of the blue.

What should I do now? I was just going to keep out of European affairs and colonise but now that i've got Spain under my control I feel as though I should make use of it. (Thank god for the -50% liberty desire historical friend bonus)

I was considering conquering through Egypt (I own Tlemcen as a vassal) and putting the Ottomans in their place then slowly conquering down from Egypt through eastern Africa whilst also going up from my South African base and meeting in the middle, or is it not worth tangling with the Ottomans, should I stay out of their way?

I will own almost all of South America, France has a small colony in Argentina that i'll need to take care of at some point as well as a couple of provinces in west Africa.

Or should I just finish closing off the coasts of South America and use my manpower to take over India? What's my best option for amassing huge trade income?

Also what ideas would you guys recommend? So far i've taken Exploration > Expansion > Religious > Quantity.

Lastly should I annex Spain as soon as possible or is it better to let them colonise and stuff? I literally just got them under a PU so i'll have to wait a while anyway.
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>>171188151
>State capitalism best capitalism.

Also true for real life. Fascist economics are GOAT.
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>>171192448
let them colonize stuff and annex them around 1750 if you want to play that long
you will inherit every single one of their colonies
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>>171192659
>fasshit """intellectuals"""
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>>171192448
Extra question, what should I do for tariffs? How high should I put them? So far i've been increasing them whenever I get the event and my bigger colonies are aroudn 20-30% liberty desire.
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I'M GOING TO FUCK YOU UP
DUMB PIECES OF SHIT
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ello me gsgmates!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl6naUpAxiM
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>>171193079
Is that the event that lets you get a bigger tarriff or a random 10 monarch points?

Take the monarch points. As GB you should be swimming in cash from English Channel Trade Node alone. If you've taken Trade Ideas you will have stupid amounts of money. Feel free to lower tarriffs if liberty desire is annoying you. Independence Wars are easy though.
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>>171194069
so many eric memes per second, so much win
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>>171194069
alright lad?
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hands up who savescums if they get a disease outbreak
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>>171158160
Because the spaniards were retards and demolished the moorish irrigation systems turning spain intro a dry mess.
What is fertile crescent.
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>>171195732
[muted call to prayer in the background]
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Yo thread it's your resident steamcordplaza boogeyman here.
Apparently some dude want to MP Victoria, any interest for that here?
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The Anglo-Portuguese war that has plagued both empires for years is finally over, with an eternal Anglo victory. Various vital land changes are to be enacted throughout the globe, most of North America is to fall to Anglo-France, as well as the lesser antilles, Jamaica, the Turks and Caicos islands, Tonga, Kiribati, Bourbon, Mauritius, Goa in India, Ceuta in northern Morocco and Gibraltar.

Gunna give all of Louisiana to the Thirteen colonies, so their liberty desire will probably skyrocket.
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>>171194286
I'm Portugal but thanks for the advice, currently i'm making 45 ducats per month from trade and 35 from tariffs
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>>171195915
And yet despite the spaniards living in a dry shitheap still colonised half the world while the iraqis sat on their ass. (admittedly the mongols fucked Baghdad up really hard)
Development means dick all.
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>>171196048
>admittedly the mongols fucked Baghdad up really hard
Didn't they kill the messenger that Temujin sent or something? They had it coming to be fair.
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>>171195414
Every time t bh
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>>171196240
t.Galactic Mimic Empire
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>>171196219
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongol_conquest_of_Khwarezmia
I don't think any empire ever got BTFO that hard as these guys at the time.
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>>171195414
I don't. Dying is fun.
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>>171196570
Not in Vicky, dying pops just mean people will tell you to git gud once you post your blob that could have +200k people more in 1936.
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>>171196469
Ugh. Can you not?
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Any tips for become Emporer as Spain for the cheevo?
What should I get in terms of ideas and alliances?
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Is it worth it or should I wait until the Egyptians and the Turks murder each other a bit more?
Germany is not a factor anymore.
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>>171196219
>some guy pushed me at a bar
>I followed him home and tortured and murdered his family
And now I'm the bad guy?!


they were cunts to kill the messenger though, it's kinda funny in retrospect
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>>171196469
Don't act like a dumb storm faggot. Read a book every now and then. The moors at the time had fairly sophisticated stone irrigation systems in Iberia
Once the lands were retaken from the moors the irrigation systems were poorly maintained and eventually broken down to build structures with.
Without this irrigation many parts become dry, which they still are.
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>>171150736
>tectonic order
>>>>>>>tectonic

W E W
E
W

Lad
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>>171197143
DH is fine too apparently
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>>171197154
>Once the lands were retaken from the moors the irrigation systems were poorly maintained and eventually broken down to build structures with.
This seems to have happen a bunch of times. I wonder if it is extremely common when someone takes over some established lands.
Like I think similar stuff happened to north africa after the arabs took it from the romans. Not quite irrigation, but not tending to olive trees, leading to less shade and more desertification.
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>>171196001
Knock knock, muddafucka, it's ya boi imperialism.
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>>171197389
>I wonder if it is extremely common when someone takes over some established lands.
I'd say it would be more surprising when people who don't know how to operate the pinnacle of engineering don't fuck it up when it falls in their hands.
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Why are Frenchies so coward?

Joined West Francia to defend against Hispania (muslim) holy war for Navarra. I attached my vassal armies to his stack while I brought my demesne troops via boats.
When my demesne troops arrived, I sent them to an occupied county and de-attached my vassals to Wf's stack. As the entire stack was sieging a county, his AI coding automatically sent him away, back to his capital (Bourgogne), while leaving me to face the freaking 7k muslim stack.

Never trust a frog.
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>>171197154
praise be to God who is great

allamasallalekum brother
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>>171197154
stop trying to talk with people who deny islamic golden age or think that iberian muslims were barbarians while in reality they were ten times more technologically advanced than christians even shortly after reconquista
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>>171197615
Figured enough people would usually be alive to take care of shit, but I guess not.

Less reason to take care of shit for your children if your children just died in the war that took over your territory too I guess.
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>>171197389
It's not so strange, administration and maintaining shit you don't know much about generally don't go well together.
>>171197615
The effects we have on the land around us wasn't that well known among our ancestors. The nazca indians for example used to have awesome irrigation and farming methods, but they kept burning down their forests to make more space for farming, which lead to erosion and eventually they died out because they turned all their land around them into deserts.

Same shit happened in regions like north africa, haiti etc. Chop down your forests too much and your land goes to shit real fast.
>>171197987
nice insecurity
>>171198154
I wouldn't say the moors were that much more technologically advanced but it should come as no surprise that effective methods of irrigation are passed through the muslim realms all the way from the fertile crescent, because that's how they got shit done.
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M&T 1.26 worth playing or should I just wait until 2.0 release?
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>>171198553
>nice insecurity
It's just bants m8. I agree with you 100% about the Islamic Golden Age and I actually didn't know about the irrigation in Spain so thanks for that. Get memed on.
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>>171186438
steamworkshopdownloader.com
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>>171198626
it lags too much, wait
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>>171140280
Based!
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How do I acquire the latest CK dlc through less than legal means?
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>>171198783
I learned it from a childrens book actually. Pretty old stuff from my dad's youth, basically revolves around a few characters in France, troubadours who meet characters like Charles the Good, Bertrand the Guesclin, Charles the Bad and Edward of Woodstock. Would recommend if you can read dutch.
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>>171199426
borrow it from internet :^)
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>>171199426
Suck someone's dick and ask for Steam code as payment.
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>>171140167
Why do you bother posting that every time
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>>171199540
>>171200256
ok nvm I guess I'll just buy it
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>>171200478
are you retarded? are you literally unable to look at the fucking OP?
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>>171200613
Stealing is wrong anon.
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>>171200765
he asked how to acquire the latest dlc's through less than legal means, Johan. If he is willing to go through less than legal channels, therefore he must be fine with pirating and becoming a pedophile, since pirating is a less than legal mean.
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In CKII, do AI rulers ever stop having an antipope if they aren't forced to?

I want to invade an empire that has an antipope, but if I need to wage two wars in a row, I'd rather go elsewhere.
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VICTORIA II MULTIPLAYER!
>What mods/ checksum?
Newest version of HPM with wiz meme patch (3.04) Checksum is WLUM
>Ip?
5.147.120.41

>Who is the host?
The last registered FDP member of Hessen
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tliquor
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WHERE IS MEIOU 2.0??
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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OK so I've downloaded Monks and Mystics through Illegal Russian channels.

How do I:
1) Get it to work. Do I just drop it into my legal copy of CK2?
2) If I have to do something to it before assimilating it, what?
3) How do I hide this all from the CIA? I don't want to be accused of working with Russia.
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>Find fair wife that's actually got a fair portrait
>She pumps out like 5 kids for me before hitting 26
>Gets cancer

The random number god is a cruel god indeed.
>>
x is based
solve for x
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>>171202039
You must report yourself and your supplier to the authorities forthwith!
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>>171201249
UPDATE

VICTORIA II MULTIPLAYER!
>What mods/ checksum?
Newest version of HPM with wiz meme patch (3.04) Checksum is PSGK
>Who is the host?
It doesn't matter. Just come and join!

>who can I play as?
whoever you want! just not countries like switzerland or abkhazia.
SO:
IP : 5.147.120.41
Have fun :^3
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New plan:
>Ally russia
>Kick the syndicatists in the balls
Could it work?
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>>171202039
Just drop it in I assume. If you had gotten the game Illegal then their would probably be several things you need to do to make it look legal by dlc should be fine.
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>>171202532
Turn that shit off
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>>171199490
>Would recommend if you can read dutch
Despite having loads of relatives in Alkmaar that I usually go over and see, I don't, sadly. It's all your fault: you guys speak English to me.
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Parma and Pisa are back in the game and that makes 66 Princes lads.

Mainz thought he could conquer Nassau and Wurzburg so there's 2 more to come.
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>>171202532
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>>171202968
What are you doing? Turn it back on ahmed
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>>171202968
Turn that shit on
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>>171202968
>>
I've done it everyone! I've pirated Monks and Mystics!
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>>171203325
You have to turn yourself in.
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>>171203325
congratulations on pirating the shittiest dlc since memeset invasion.
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>>171203425
What's the punishment for piracy under Islamic Gommunism?
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>>171201837
this
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>>171203457
What does it do? I haven't looked much into it
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>>171204196
a 90 stack of aztecs lands in Ireland late on in the game
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>Islamic communism's default position is switched off
BULLSHIT. HOTFIX NOW
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>>171202594
Yeah pretty much everyone speaks english as a second language in dutchland.
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Will this function as a giant pocket?
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>>171204973
Thank you for deleting the post you made without a pic attached when you meant to.
You're the hero that /gsg/ needs.
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>>171206030
But will pic related function as a fucking pocket?
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did dutch historically colonized murica?
also based event
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>>171206327
>Not knowing New York was originally New Amsterdam
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>>171206327
>did dutch historically colonized murica?
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>>171195192
its so rare to get that event. what was the result?
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>>171206401
sorry, European education here.
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>>171206094
I was not being ironic friend. I genuinely thank you
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>>171206495
What Balkan shithole are you from that you don't know this?
It's common fucking knowledge
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>>171204728
I thin the percentage of people fluent in English there is higher than in the US or Canada.
>>
How do I check if the M&T mod is actually running?

I don't see anything differently in regards to interface or any version numbers of the game running other than EUIV 1.19 itself
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>>171206495
Which one so I can laugh at a Euro not knowing general European history
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>>171206602
You'll know if memeitupwithtaxes was running.
Map is a lot more detailed than vanilla.
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>>171206671
>>171206590
Russia
we only learn about differences between north/latin america colonization.
Sorry, netherlands aren't center of the world.
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>>171206495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLiEcLLwRDc
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Is stellaris good yet?
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>>171206814
I was told that Russian education is good.
It's common knowledge you blydo trash
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>>171206814
>Claims to be European
>Admits to being Russian when pressed
Sorry but that's not "European education" that you got, m8.
I'm not even trying to make fun of Russia, it's just qualitatively a different culture and childhood you had.
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>>171206814
>Russia
>Euro
Get the fuck out of here. You're about as much of a Euro as the Netherlands is the centre of the world.
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>>171206942
>>>/vg/civ4xg
>>
>#Where to get these games
>http://hastebin.com/raw/moqugasume
So.. is this working with OS X and Linux or only with Windows?
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>>171206942
Not really no
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>>171206967
>I'm not even trying to make fun of Russia, it's just qualitatively a different culture and childhood you had.
tell me more about my childhood please.
>>171206952
Perhaps, but we had more important stuff to learn. Its not really crucial to know who was shitting in new york 300 years ago.
>>171206993
why does my country frustrates you so much, anon?
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>It's going to work
I can't believe I will fucking capture their homeland with barely any effort.
Piece of cake.
Conservative Democracy Saves the Day!
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Is my blob ugly enough?
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>>171207239
It's not that it was a crucial matter in school where I live.
Teachers just mention it on the side.
Not to mention it's in a million history books.

The thing is that I'm not angry at you, I'm just baffled that despite (presumably) enjoying historical games,you don't know such an information
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>>171207146
Shoot
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>>171207239
>tell me more about my childhood please.
You tell me more about mine, faggot. What makes you qualified to say whether your childhood/education was similar to a European's , but not the other way around?
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>>171207387
It doesn't make any sense, because Venice is a place. All those other places are not Venice. You just have a vaguely HRE-shaped empire that happens to be ruled from Venice.
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>>171207402
America is too distant from us to know such details.
>>171207497
>education was similar to a European's , but not the other way around?
For starter's russia has good old prussian education system, your turn :^)
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>>171207239
>why does my country frustrates you so much, anon?

It doesn't. Stop pretending to be something that you're not
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>>171207073
top autism
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>>171207664
Balt, Hohol or Pole?
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>>171207640
I live in a post-communist and I know about it.
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>>171207803
>he said I wasn't European, he must be from one of the countries that dislike me!
Wrong.
I'm an actual Euro.
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>>171206794
>Map is a lot more detailed than vanilla.
I don't remember playing vanilla
last time I played was like 2 years ago
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>>171208065
the "Paused" icon literally says "M&T"
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>>171207624
This is what makes it so great.

I just won invasion of Germania, and before that, Lombardy. That's why it looks like it.
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>>171207497

The guy happens to live in Europe
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>>171208065
I am not even joking when I say this.
You will know if memeitupandtaxes is running. They have their M&T banner on the front screen of eu4
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>>171208553
Anyone here have experience playing tall games in EU4? How do you build tall when monarch points are alredy few and far between
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>>171208896
install M&T desu
vanilla mana spending to play tall is shit
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>>171208974
>install M&T desu

When its actually playable. I have a 4k dollar rig and its still extremely slow to play.
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>>171208896
By gitting gud.

Also colonies and heavy focus on trade.
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>>171208974
Is this the one that runs really slow? I have a good rig, mind you. Could I make a nice Frankfurt?
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>>171209302
should have seen anon babylon game bruh
yes its possible but make sure you have means to defend yourself or else you're free constantinople for taking :^)
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>it's fucking working
I just saved Europe from communism.
No need to thank me!
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>all this m&t shilling.
Ugh -_-"
Banned
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KAISERREICH MULTIPLAYER!
>What?
Kaiserreich for Darkest Hour. Alt. History mod regarding Germany winning WW1.
Just google it and install it onto Darkest Hour.
>Checksum?
VJSO
>IP?
There is no IP. Join using the third party application "Game Ranger".
Add "MemeMan1871" on there, and I'll invite you.
>Rules
There are none. I suggest you to stick to events, though.
What are you waiting for? come join us!
>Checksum : VJSO
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>>171208258
fuck, in that case it's not loading
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>>171209827
someone make a new thread lets see what happens
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>>171209952
They recommend playing vanilla for ~10mins if this is your first time loading mt
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>>171210050
gonna give that a try, thanks anonymous
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>playing meiou
Why? Victoria 2 is good with minor modifications, HoI3 is good with minor modifications, CK2 is good with minor modifications, why would you play a game that needs a total overhaul even to be playable? It lags like hell, is full of bloat, and is made by SJWs, why would you play this?
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>>171210986
>It lags like hell
do you not have patience? you act like a child with ADD

>is full of bloat
bloat doesnt exist, more is better

>is made by SJWs
completely irrelevant, has not effected any major part of the game besides native 'removal'

read a book while you play M&T, retard
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>>171211383
hello M&T dev
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>>171210986
>and is made by SJWs
Name one sjw that would make this the most viable choice out of all these options
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>>171211383
>do you not have patience? you act like a child with ADD
Jesus Christ, MEIOUIDF is real. >a minute for a month
>bloat doesnt exist, more is better
*tips shoehorned "population" system which is really just developement with modifiers*
>completely irrelevant, has not effected any major part of the game besides native 'removal'
Holy fuck..
>read a book while you play M&T, retard
tfw to smart to play a gams that runs
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>>171211456
hi
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>>171211528
>remember the 6 gorillion
>the dutch were shoahing us goy
>this isn't leftist
Top fucking kek.

I love how nobody plays MEIOU past 1600, because it takes real life years to get that far.
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>>171208896
Wait for Mayo and Talex 2.0. It will try to simulate growth so that it's more fun than just spamming a button.
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>>171211926
>meiou has pops liqqy kids btfo!!!
Lad, it is literally just developement. Less than 10 and you get a "low pop" modifier, more than 20 and you get a "high pop" modifier, it is literally nothing.
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>>171211875
>implying the event isn't dynamic so that any religious group can be targeted
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>>171212124
>implying its not made specifically to show how ebil wacism is bad
I bet it comes with a shittonne of bad events, not least of which a technology reduction.
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>>171212124
i think this one can be only fired against jews
and its not like there is some shekel or technology bonus for letting them stay
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>>171211528
>event is called "scapegoats"

19 times out of 20 pogroms were justified and no amount of revisionism in your vidya will change that
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>>171212318
no, the event can be triggered against any religious group. Byzanon used it against Muslims in Anatolia

>>171212259
the event doesnt read like an egg-on-face anti-racist ad on television, friend
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>>171212467
>the event doesnt read like an egg-on-face anti-racist ad on television, friend
Really? Have you actually read the event?
>in times of turmoil people look for something to blame their troubles on
Don't tell me you actually believed the Jews, with their usury and nefarious nature were wrong tk be pogromed.
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>>171212668
>Don't tell me you actually believed the Jews, with their usury and nefarious nature were wrong tk be pogromed.
the game literally rewards you with potential stability point, legitimacy and loss of war exhaustion along with extra step closer to monoreligious state:^)
>>
>>171212668
>in times of turmoil people look for something to blame their troubles on

it doesnt say their accusations and blaming was incorrect lol
>>
>>171212807
Like I said, it probably causes bad events, because it's ebil and wacist according to Gigau le cuck.
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>>171212807
Yes but the event tells you that what you are doing is 100% wrong in the eyes of the Matriarchy and that Dutch people are backwards inbred white privilege CIS shitlords
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:^)
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>>171212827
>scapegoats
Is English not your first language?
>>
>>171213012
wanted to say based and white but then reminded myself that you're spain
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>>171212876
we get it, you hate jews
>>
>>171213012
>>>/r/paradoxplaza
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>>171212876
it doesnt cause any bad events other than unrest from the targeted minority

unrest may lead to a revolt but that is a hardcoded part of the game lol

>>171212886
>Matriarchy
>backwards inbred white privilege CIS shitlords

??? you confused me

>>171213027
sorry i am french
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>>171213297
>from the targeted minority
>5 unrest
>from 1% of the population
Really makes you think.
>>
>>171213456
>1%

smallest visible provincial minority in the mod is 10%
>>
>>171213534
>jews are 10% of the people
Simply epic. MEIOU fails again.
>>
>CK2 patch
>didn't fix alchemy ingredients doing literally nothing
>>
>>171214197
>plays meme game
>gets memed on
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What a joyful moment it is lads!
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>>171213727
what?
>>
>play as ethiopia in memeopia universalis 4
>step 1: convert the jews
>don't get a Redpilled as Fuark modifier with +50% discipline until the end of campaign for succesfully wiping out the jews
what kind of sjwcuck game is this?
>>
>>171214797
>you will never be so butthurt about someone wanting a game to realistically portray pogroms that you spout meme shit like a good goy
>>
>>171214797
>wanting +50% discipline for niggers
you dumb sjw
>>
I'd M&T actually good? I see some screenshots, and I've also seen shit like the devs refusing to allow people to attack natives cuz moralfag reasons.
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>get tired of agonizingly turning one province minors into super powers
>decide to pick ottomans with quantity instead of torture myself
>100k plus manpower reserve with 150k force limit by 1500s
>can fight multiple wars while fighting rebels and barely get a dent in manpower
no more byzantium remove gyro
>>
>>171216137
no it's just bloat
>>
>>171216137
>is it good
yes
but you can also wait for 2.0 which supposedly improves performance as they fixed some paradox engine bugs that speed up the game
>>
Which GSG has the best lotr mod?

Asking for a friend.
>>
what do you guys think is the best paradox game?
>>
Damn, how do I get more literacy in Victoria 2?
>>
>>171217294
hoi 4
>>
>>171216325
warhammer update when?
>>
>>171217294
Victoria 2
>>171217318
increase education spending, encoruage intellectuals/clergy
>>171216925
Medieval 2 Total War
>>
>>171217318
Clergy.

>>171217294
Victoria 2

>>171216925
Fuck off.
>>
>>171217483
>>171217467
>>>/r/liqour
>>
>>171217318
Are you serious? Literacy is one of the most important basic mechanics to even be able to play the game.

Try to have 100% administrative efficiency nationwide and in all provinces (fund the admin slider enough to get efficiency to 100%, then you can cut back to a lower level to keep it there, have enough bureaucrats in every province).
Encourage clergy (intellectuals in HPM) so that they are at least 2% of every province.
Obviously set education funding to 100% and keep it there the entire game.
Take any education boosting reforms as soon as you can, which include school systems and banning child labor.
>>
>>171217695
Thanks, I'm new to Victoria 2, I mainly play HoI4. The UI on Victoria 2 is just terrible.
>>
>>171217609
>>>/s/teamcordplaza
>>
>>171217867
So >>>/s/ was the Steamcordplaza HQ this whole time?
>>
>>171217930
>>>/y/es
>>
>>171218037
Based and Sexy.
>>
Why is Plutocracy the best Idea group?
>>
when i use HPM in vicky 2 the game crashes, what do?
>>
>>171218130
Just play robmod lad
>>
>>171218130
I think it has something to do with a hidden update.
>>
New thread.


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>>171217160


>>171217160


>>171217160


>>171217160


>>171217160
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>>171218098
It's not
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>>171218310
Too soon m8, probably going to get deleted.
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>>171218405
After 700 though.
>>
Proper Thread
>>171219019
>>171219019
>>171219019
>>171219019
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>>171217695
>banning child labor.

get the fuck outta here
>>
>>171218192
trob
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>>171207624
>what was rome
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Is anyone else having the problem where the game doesn't even tell you why you lose anymore?
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My wife imprisoned me because she wants elective monarchy and I'm the commander of France. It kinda works because I want elective too and the king won't hate me. Win-win?
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>>171223273
But it did tell you.
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>>171224564

It didn't explain how or why I "died"
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>>171224384
Is there any benefit to agreeing to be a commander? I usually refuse, because it just risks my character on stupid fights.
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>>171223273
Looks like someone else got the Duchy of Kiev. Vyshata's liege is not you.

>>171225235
You probably became unlanded, somehow. Did you lose a war?
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nice
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>>171231540
You'll still manage to lose WWII to sheer incompetence.
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>>171217774
This is why I'm hoping for 3. I just want it to be the same game with a more intuitive interface.
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>>171223273
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>>171231983
watch it you little cocksucker
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>>171231540
I always love that fascist Russian Flag. It is so uncreative it is funny.

>Who could butt blast Russia so hard that they lose GP status and go Fascist?
>>171232389
>Oh, Tartarstan is a thing
>>
You.
Yes, you. The one screaming, "This is just map painting!" and "Paradox lied to us!" and other slurs I dare not mention.
Tread lightly.
You are one. We are hundreds, thousands. Millions. You aren't just IN the minority; you ARE the minority.
I don't feel awkward or anxious playing EU4 around others, and your words don't affect me. Many others, however, are coming out of their shells for the first time in their lives. This is the first time many are enjoying the beautiful world that has been hand crafted for us - and it IS beautiful. Incredibly so. DON'T ruin this for them. We EU4 and Stellaris fans may have our differences, but we will not hesitate to come to the aid of our fellow explorers, especially against someone who so virulently slurs that which has brought us all together.
Don't take this the wrong way. I don't hate you. I don't fear you.
I pity you.
I'm sorry that you feel this way towards us. I'm sorry that Stellaris and EU4 is such a bane to your existence. And I'm sorry that you are missing out on such a wonderful experience. Mostly, though, I'm sorry that you feel the need to go around and publicly chastise and berate others. I'm sorry that, to ensure your own validity, you need to make others feel invalid. I'm sorry that your self-worth is so infinitesimally miniscule that you have to make others feel less-than-human, at least in your own denatured mind, just to feel whole. I am truly sorry that day-in and day-out you have to put up with your worthless, meaningless, Shakespearean tragedy of a life.
I ask you politely to cease your unnecessary cries for attention, and instead invite you to join our ranks. Uninstall Call of Duty, start up EU4 or Stellaris, and breathe in the splendour and the amazement of scanning your first planet, and then, maybe, just maybe, you'll see what you've been so hopelessly searching for this whole time.
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>>171233354
what new meme pasta is this
>>
>>171233663
Sick of vickyfags thinking that it's an elite game
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>>171233354
>>171233663
Dank Meme
>>
>Stellaris is banned from /gsg/ for being a 4x game, and not gsg
>Stellaris is the only thing keeping /civ4xg/ alive

Who is the containment board, now?
>>
Anyone know if Paracucks are going to make it so that your commanders can teach other commanders Siege Leader WHENEVER THE FUCK THEY LIKE??? sick of having to wait for maybe getting an RNG chance per month how do you add siege leader to your commanders iwth console
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