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Mind over Matter Edition

>2.6: Legacy
https://www.pathofexile.com/legacy
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
https://www.pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Skilltree Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Offline Build Planner
https://github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/8R2HQiuu
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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GGG A SHIT
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>>171110780
>we will never have the sexy life and mana ladies back
;_;
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is there a /vg/ guild? just got some time to start a character on hc.
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>>171110916
You didn't hear...?
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Is lacerate any good?
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first for our guy
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Post yfw flasks get a short global cooldown and Vaal Pact gets a 50% less leech penalty and has it's place on the tree swapped with Point Blank.
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>>171110972
yeah, <PRESSM>
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>>171110985
FUCK OFF
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>>171111016
sad to see him leave poe rather than the afro'd arab who constantly smokes pot
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>>171111094
Is that a no?
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EQ vs cyclone for a league-first character?
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>>171111403
Just do what you want, dude
Everything is meaningless
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>>171111465
try both and see what kind of play style you dislike the least
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>>171111728

liked cyclone the most when I last played it, just wanted to know which one is less currency-intensive
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>>171111465
I'd say EQ

It might feel a bit clunky with the delay but not as clunky as cyclone and being melee-er

But yeah you should try both either way, we all have different preferences and perceptions on what's good
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>>171111403
watch more depressing tv. feel better you dont live in baltimore.
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>>171111257
Lacerate is excellent
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>>171112586
I live in europe and have a border with the russians

I used to watch horror movies for that, to see how bad people have it and be glad that im not them, but after years at it doesn't bother me anymore just because it's all so coincidential and dumb(exectution)

I love having nightmares because they feel more real but I don't get them. Dreams are like TV series, I see what I don't get
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>>171111403
stop being you
be this guy
http://imgur.com/gallery/5vB4z
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>>171113018

at least you are free of the encroaching sjw pandemic
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Why do most people shape courtyard instead of colonnade?
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>>171111403
Watch anime
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>>171113018
have you watched the wire?
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>>171113359
sextants
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What's the point of SSF SC? if you're going to play the game on hard mode, might as well go all the way and go HC instead of pussying it with a half restrictive mode
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>friend levels and gears vaal spark
>asks for money to make his new "bosser"
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>>171113496
because this game is mindless to play 99% of the time and I can't be bothered to always be alert for that 1%
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>>171113282
Do sjw's actually affect your daily life or is it just an on-the-internet thing?

>>171113379
i don't like anime, the underdog always gets the girl and everything else

>>171113389
Not too fond of crime series


>>171113496
Hey man, it's a step forward, let them be

They might go looking for a bigger challenge eventually
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>>171113698
Sure, but then why not stay in trading SC? SSF and SC is kinda contradictory to me, either you want to have casual fun and then you play softcore and trade, or you wanna be a tryhard autist and you go SSF and HC, you can't really mix the two and expect a satisfying experience because having no real penalty for death counteracts the "difficulty" of SSF
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>>171113736
>Do sjw's actually affect your daily life or is it just an on-the-internet thing?

My little brother's elementary school is trying to get going "acceptance fridays", in which kids swap "gender restricted apparel". Mind you gender-appropriate clothing is already optional, they just want everybody to crossdress one day a week. So yes, it affects me.
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>>171113736
what dont you like about crime series?
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>>171114063
They get quite repetitive

There's a big bad guy they try to catch the whole season, minor bad guys every other time. Some romantical drama in the middle
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>>171114043

Are you really confused by a difficulty setting between "casual fun" and "tryhard autist," Or do you just have nothing better to talk about?
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>>171114057
sounds like a great idea

the society those kids will grow up into will be much more accepting which is a plus for everyone

/pol/ btfo once again
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>>171114057
Forced cross-dress? Isn't that illegal

It could also be a way to figure out the degenerates
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>>171114204
They do that somewhat in The Wire, but I would still really recommend it. From what you've said so far, it sounds like it would be right up your alley. It's much less about "good guys catching the bad guys" and more showing both sides of the story and what goes on in their everyday lives.
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>build complete
>wish you were pathfinder instead

every time
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>blogging
>muh sjws
>muh tv shows
stop talking about non poe related things, retards
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>>171114774
If I got over my shit I could play poe, that's poe related
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>search item on poe.trade
>weigh options between price/rolls for 10minutes
>choose top 3
>not online
>not online
>not online
>afk
>afk
>afk

what a game
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>>171115028
play SSF
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>>171115028
you should thank GGG because this shit somehow avoids price fixing and gearing entirely from others

lol
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>>171113736
what about Dekalog. you watched that?
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i honestly don't even mind, i just spam until someone invites and ignore the nerds inviting later
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>>171115238
Not him but, Im too lazy to trade, I can even go up to level 60 still wearing three items below level 10

>>171115287
Don't really watch foreign shows, so no. Is it good? Might try it.
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>>171115424
I always feel bad when I spam till someone replies and have them all respond to me after I bought the item

I don't have the heart to tell them I bought the item already
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molten strike
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>>171115028
>find a perfect budget 6L with a decent life roll
>message seller
>get item
>dps increases by over 30% with that extra link
git gud shitter
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>>171115440
>Don't really watch foreign shows
it's an eastern euro classic. probably the most depressing fictional series ever aired.
think there was a decent res version released in the last few years
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>>171115797
I'll check it out

I grew not to be fond of foreign series (I consider everything from non-anglosphere to be foreign because it would be too much of hassle to speak otherwise because im not from those countries).

I spent my whole childhood watching russian/native shows and they were absolute trash
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righteous fire flame surge
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>>171115662
and what exactly is "budget"
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>>171115643
>>171116119
good discord posts
upvoted
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what's a discord?
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>>171116210
26c
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Evens spectral throw.
Odds Blade Flurry.
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why is lightning strike so shit? projectiles don't go up/downhill, even the slightest object blocks everything and in narrow areas only one projectile manages to squeeze forward..

i don't mind using spectral throw but i would unironically use lightning strike aswell if it wasn't so awful in 98% of the maps
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I just want poe.trade to not be dogshit and list things that have been already traded weeks ago
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>>171116258
I got randomly kicked so I don't know. I guess they want you to talk in the discord instead of the guild chat
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>>171117102
try wild strike, you'll love lightning strike after that
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>>171117102
>projectiles don't go up/downhill, even the slightest object blocks everything
believe it or not, this is the current behavior of most projectiles
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>>171116639
dubs for heavy strike
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>>171116639
machines have no use for sex parts tho
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>>171117651
>being an actual faggot
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>>171117217
>POP POP ZAP FOOSH POP POP FOOSH ZAP
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>>171117651
didnt put much thought into this post did you you stupid nigger
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>>171117651
they do if they are made for sex
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>almost crap pants when an unique ebony shield drops
>chernobog's pillar
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>>171116639
Nier Automata has a great plot
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>>171118239
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
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>>171110780
Reminder Vintage cloak of defiance is ~75% MORE hp
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>>171118239
That's backstory.
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>>171118239
alexis texas
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>>171118446
I posted the wrong webm but it has great backstory too
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>>171118112
>3x Chernobog's Pillar drops in Breach league
>While playing pizzasticks
Yes, I'm still mad
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>Gull + Speed Shrine + Brightbeak Shield Charge

This is how the game should feel all the time.
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How to make melee on par with casters:

Movement skills are unaffected by ground debris
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>>171119190
>your brain on shitcore
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why did a well rolled lyco went from 5-6c to 20c?

is some streamer using it?
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>>171119302
yeah me
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how do I ice trap?
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>>171119256
more like your brain on not being a shitter. must have the other kind.
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tfw cucked into using doedre's tenure at level 65 because of the +20 int
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>>171119760
two pyres, two consuming darks, infernal mantle, assassin poison
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>>171119957
>forced to lose like 40% total damage in conversion inefficiencies because cold damage is shit

nice, ggg
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>tfw ywn be able to /ss/ with uul-netol
why even live
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has anyone tried that shit where you reroll strongboxes for headhunter
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Do people even multibox in this game?
Also since GGG never wants to visit this place for ideas, and reddit is an echo chamber, why don't we just find something we all agree on here, post it on reddit and spam vote it so they actually listen?
By the way, I am a retard.
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>>171119760
Hrimburn, scale crit and enjoy your sick burns :^)
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>>171120419
how
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I really dislike the term shitcore because I can't figure out whether shitcore is implied hardcore or softcore
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>>171120717
shitcore
ShitCore
SC
SoftCore
softcore
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>>171120465
because we don't post on reddit you fucking redditor faggot kys
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do most people play on the HC league
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Got a goldrim, wanderlust, and thousand ribbons for levelling quick

what are some other good items
using fire skills
reverb wand maybe? obviously lifesprigs but maybe theres somethign better for firestorm/flame totem
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>>171120490
roll unique items on ur strongboxes with nemesis stone
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>>171121049
>>171121049
under a quarter of players play HC
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>>171121152
Get abberath's hooves
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>>171120419
Levelling a character for it right now.
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>>171121152
i like fencoil
>+50% spell damage
>+20% max life
>+20% max mana
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>>171121326
>170c
No thanks
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>>171121049
most play temp SC (%60+)
like 15% play temp hc
the rest play perma leagues, mostly perm sc
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>>171121579
must suck to be poor
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once i hit 36 on sc i go hc ssf once again

not sure what i'll roll, probably a common eq slayer like last time, fb totems is too ez mode
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>>171121441
please post results once you've tried it

I want a HH so bad
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>>171121579
lmao
kill yourself poorkid
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>>171120419
>>171121172
Im a pleb and I have no idea what you said means

What's a nemesis stone
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>Tfw Bloodlines leaguestone with Wealth mod
>Combined with Radiating Tempest leaguestone

HAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHA
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>>171120419
why would you get HH instead of any other unique though?
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>>171122032
ez magic weapons
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>Mortem Morsu prices spiked right after Mathil posted his new video
>Sold mine for 5c
>They are back at 1 alt again
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>>171122347
is the build shit or something?
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Still a pleb here

What rolls do I usually look for in items to know what should I keep to sell?

What things are terrible to get?
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>>171122540
life and resistances are always good
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>>171122473
No, they unique is just way too fucking common to cost anything above 1 alch
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>>171122473
mortem is of vendor-tier rarity
thats the only reason it was "in demand" for a couple days
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>>171122618
What about weapons?

I only keep things that have either +physical and % physical or tons of elemental damage+

Feels like there should be more
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>>171122473
its fine, is just the typical kneejerk reaction as soon as mathil does anything .. hell, he could buy a Three Dragons helm, make a build that uses it in any way, and people would buy it en masse

has Three Dragons ever been anything but vendor trash?
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are there any leaguestones I should focus on or use together?? I've just been tossing random shit in right now
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>>171122540
in armor stuff, shit with lots of resists and life or ES is good
in rings, youd look for offensive stats along with life and flat ES.
weapons are too varied to describe how a valuable one would sell in this post
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>>171122878
when fire totem was king and before poison, it was used with it
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>>171122878
yeah, back when you didn't have to deal 5% life as damage to shock something
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>>171122919
if you don't care about the challenges, just run perandus + breach + bloodlines/nemesis
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Accidentally hit the F10 key and my game froze.

What does it to?
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>>171123521
Is there any particular combination I need for a challenge? Or if I just randomly use them all I'll get challenges?
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>>171122158

A bit better than that Anon
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>>171123625
turn off PoEHUD
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>>171123625
Nothing to me anon
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>>171123813

So if I don't have it it does nothing?
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Are items level 40-50 worth selling or they are such a low level that no one would buy?

Please respond
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>>171123789
>3d and ungils

mad with riches yo
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>>171124085
If they have good stats and are cheap, people will buy them to level with.
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:^)
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>>171121172
i thought people abused that for something in ambush already and the mod was removed from the pool.
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>>171124542
hope you picked up that phantasmagoria map
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>>171123789
woah. gratz on your alch shards.
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>>171124226
Any of these worth selling


Sorry I know nothing about this game
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>>171124824
you fucked up
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>>171125016
stop meming me

i feel bad now
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>>171124824
nope
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>>171099390
really? i mean, really?
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What's the hideout decoration that looks like orange fireflies?
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Been a ridiculously good league start for me. Found 5 exalts(more than I found whole last league), 1 reliq and 6-linked my Carcass in less than 100 fusings.
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:^))
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>>171125848
>6-linked my Carcass
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Just dropped Tabula rasa!

This is the best thing that has happened to me so far
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>>171127064
Nice, now you can wear it forever.
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im not talking to you again
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>>171126469
are you just buying trove leaguestones?
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>>171126469
free belts?
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>equipping discharge enchanted Gull and hitting a Haste shrine for the first time

Easily one of the best items they've put in the game
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>tfw the acceleration shrine wears off
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What's the chance for a vaal orb'd item to turn rare?
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>>171128026
25%, IIRC.
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asking here since global is being a nigger
is 1054 coins for victario's acuity a good offer? poe.trade says it sells for around 10c
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Does this node in the slayer ascendancy apply to bows?
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>>171128341
Bows are two hand weapons so yes
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>>171128270
it's one of the lower offers but cardio can sell an exalt for less than that
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>>171128341
no, bow are two-handed ranged weapon
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>play magic find char
>best thing I find all day is like 20c, nothing else even noteworthy
>meanwhile on normal non MF char I'd find at least 2ex of worht a day minimum
:(
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>>171128270
1000 coins are about 10c
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>>171128270
>tradecore

disgusting pleb

/poeg/ is for elite hc ssf players
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>>171128556
>>171128341
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I AM ACTUALLY CONSIDERING ANCESTRAL WARCHIEF

WITH

JUGGERNAUT

MAKE ME STOP
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>>171128341
No. "Two handed weapons" are staves, axes, swords and mauls.
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>>171128556
It doesn't say melee so it works with bows
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>>171128673
But Juggernaut is unstoppable.
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>>171128341
>Equip bow and Bow skill
>Look at tooltip
>Allocate Minor Ascendancy Node
>Tooltip increases
Who would've thunk.
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>>171128341
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Two-Handed
according to the wiki bows are considered two-handed so i would say yes.
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>>171128341
Okay. According to a post from Mark on the forums, bows count as two handed weapons internally, but back then there were no generic two handed weapon damage nodes.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1581079 says it does
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IS FUCKING EVERYONE AFK OR SOME SHIT? I HAVE WHISPERED LIKE 20 PEOPLE NOW AND NONE HAVE REPLIED
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Fucking hell didn't see the Voidspawn of Abaxoth pack. Almost got killed.
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>>171128950
I ain't leaving my shaped strand to make a 1 alch transaction bub
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>>171129015
>3400 HP
>A3M
>Elemental Hit
Just Softcore things.
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>>171129221

HC bruh.

Put EH to see how it did (badly), never bothered taking it off.
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>>171128841
but isnt it like much worse than warchief?
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>>171129310
Huh. I'll be surprised.
Fair enough, I suppose.
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>>171129323
eh
only thing you're really missing out on is the leech and the taunt
chieftain's only a little bit better than any other ascendancy, it's debatable what you go with.
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Can i give my own characters waypoints via portals?
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What's the best build for facerolling uber lab? Best I've played is whispering ice witch because I could easily facetank all boss fights, but traps still kinda hurt.
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lets gone lads
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>>171131170
traps are % of your max health
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>>171131538
I know, that's why builds with high regen and stuff is good for it, just wondering if there is one that can handle both traps and boss without issue.
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How do people have trouble with traps? You watch their pattern and run past accordingly. You are allowed to get hit by them a little bit, too.
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>>171131836
>not just mindlessly charging though them

What a pussy.
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>>171131836
i guess people refuse to take their time with them
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>>171131938
this
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>>171131836
there are places where there traps are blocked by the terrain, like close to a wall and you can't see them so you have to run in blindly

plus long hallways filled with shit
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>>171131836

the only problem I have is where the spike traps continue on forever so that I'm not 100% sure what the exact pattern is without increasing the brightness to 100%
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my lightning RP molten striker turning out decently. looks like ill have over 5k hp before l75 and the damage is acceptable so far

using. debating whether to keep fidelitas spike for shock, using a good ele foil that wont shock (but could trigger EO more reliably)

hyaon is not a option, since it makes me take inc damage for every frenzy charge
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>>171132247
Spike traps are either,

Half/half. Where half of the traps go up while the other half is down, small dead-time, then the other half activates, then so on.

Pressure plate. Activated shortly after a player steps on it.

Wave. They all activate after considerable dead-time, and in a 'wave' fashion. So it'd be 1>2>3>4>5>6 etc, all down, then repeat. Easy as fuck if you're at the '1' side, you just follow it.
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>mana flask
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>>171132425

I know the release pattern, I'm talking more about how many of them there are, and where the safe spots are, if there are any. This is usually a case with the corridor-like wave ones.
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>>171132558
ive mana anxiety
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>>171132656
Traps are frequently a "see as much as you can, then go with it accordingly" while usually having to adapt on the spot. You can't always have it where you see and know everything prior to moving.
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>>171132814
it's astonishing how many people are resistant to any kind of Action elements in an Action-RPG
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>>171132924
Despite not liking the lab as a whole, traps are a little exciting. They actually keep me on my toes more than most content. Just a shame that the lab sucks balls. Izaro is interesting and traps are solid. It's the garbage filler inbetween that makes lab suck ass.
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>already put over 72 hours into this league
>only 1 (ONE) exalted orb and 0 (ZERO) reliquary keys
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ummm why didn't you peturds tell me that fire nova mine was fun?
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Does anyone know if poe.ninja has archives for old leagues? Or any kind of data on item prices from past leagues.
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>set nemesis
>90% of rares get volatile
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>>171133232
that's one more exalted than me with less hours than me
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dropped 2 nuro's harps now SSFHC. going to use em (swpa for single target if need be). Inquisitor? have to go elementalist for reflect?
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Can Eternal Orbs drop anywhere in Legacy or do you need specific league stones?
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>>171133269
i told you it was ass
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>>171133057
if you set up your movement ability correctly then you just zip through all that crap in minutes

i wish those rare tile puzzles and things you find were actually worth the time, but even silver keys/doors are garbage unless it's a gold key for a reward (especially darkshrines, nothing is more disappointing to find at the end of a puzzle than a shrine you don't even want to risk touching)
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>>171133683
only in reliquary
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>>171134119
shieeeeeeeeeeeet

Makes sense though. Thanks.
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>xhe doesnt run shaped double beyond packsize pit maps for guaranteed abaxots
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What if 3.0 introduces a playstyle that's more engaging than holding down rmb to murder everthing everywhere and then moving to the next pack of pigs to slaughter?
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>>171134189
>Not just running Beyond + Coward's Trial for anywhere from 1 to 4 Void Unique Bosses per floor
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>>171134667
press x core soon
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is it just me, or are the challenges this league fucking cancer
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>>171134667

its unlikely. all gameplay is getting a console revamp, so poe will become a twin stick arcade rpg. it may slow down a bit, but it wont get any more involved than it is now

expect a lab "difficulty" nerf as well
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>need to go CI on budget
>need 4 off colors on a vaal regalia

wat do
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>>171135337
Stop trying to play CI cyclone
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>>171135337
4 off colours is easy on a 6 socket
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>>171135672
>average cost 432 chromes
>chromes 10:1c

this isn't easy.
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what's the difference between price and exact price
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>>171136382
price is like "yo can you do 10c instead of 13? uh sure ty ty"

exact prize is like "yo can yo- *ignored"
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>>171133580
The only use for Nuro's is for the 5 for 1 prophecy. Are you serious? SSFHC doesn't mean you HAVE to build around the lowliest piece of shit you pick up off the ground.
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>>171136797
It cant be that bad. I'm bored.
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>>171135337
>450 jews and no 6 socket

well there goes my budget anyway. guess i'll just have to forget my dreams of doing anything but "ssf" flameblast in this game.
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>i'm bored let's make a build around an absolute piece of shit of an item
i don't understand punctuacucks
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>>171137139
>not just buying a cheap item with the sockets you need
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feels good to build a nice map pool again
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i found a soul taker in ssf hc poeg

what's a good build i can make with it
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>>171137428
Raider Sunder
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I almost replied to you.. but literally use your fucking brain. The build you should go is obvious
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>>171137523
>raider

i don't play man-hating feminists

>>171137549
i was going to go dw spooky toss with death's hand

just can't decide on a class
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>>171137351
>not even a single t15
>nice pool
haha
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>>171133580
Interesting, if this was in a trading league, I'd consider Inq the obvious choice since the synergy with consecrated ground and crit against chilled is obvious and you can scale crit with 2x Lioneye's Falls converting staff and melee crit nodes

SSF, harder to tell, Raider should be pretty nice too for fast map clearing since frenzies are generic damage scaling and the new WED clusters are pretty strong

Just boot up PoB and compare 2 mock up trees, too hard to tell and kinda depends on what you're trying to achieve, either optimal map clearing (Raider probably better) or permafreezing (Inq probably better with the caveat harder bosses are probably immune anyway)
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>>171137698
she likes fairgraves for some reason
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>>171137351
that's a good feel i can relate to
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>>171137912
>wanting to do something besides strand
lol
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what clears faster and safer?

Jugg EQ or Ancestral Warchief?
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>>171137428
Soul Taker is a bad weapon by today's standards. Mana sustain hasn't been an issue for melee for a long time now, its only niche use would be to enable 2x 50% mana reservation auras, but that's no longer optimal for anyone melee except maybe Aegis Gladiators running Determination+Grace. Maybe.
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what is the point of this game?
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>>171138556
casual fun
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if you don't get it, play D3
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>>171137428
>in ssf hc
i think you forgot this bit
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>>171138341
>faster
EQ, it's played because it has an amazing clearspeed, but you tend to want to jump into the middle of every pack to use the full AoE
>safer
warchief, it's played because it's the safest spec in the game but its clear speed is abysmal as you have to wait for the startup animation every time you place a totem
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Dang this is the best drop i've ever got. Came from a breach. Should I try and 6link it before selling?
Still high off the drop desu
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>>171138935
>Should I try and 6link it before selling?
Are you retarded? The level of sheer stupidity that comes out the mouth of newshitters like is truly mind boggling
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>>171138556
become the overjew of the league
unless you play ssf and then it's just for funsies
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>>171138785
How rippy is EQ this league? Currently leveling Ancestral Warchief but the totem placement is triggering the shit out of me right now
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USE ME
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How are these resists for maps?

I'M working on Health right now. 40% in the next 6 levels.
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>>171139493
>Iron Reflexes Raider
:thinking:
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>>171139783

Letting luck decides what happens to my character instead of taking the reins.

No thanks.
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>>171139882
>life
:thonk:
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>>171139368
as rippy as you want it to be
juggernaut is the typical EQ ascendancy and it gives a retarded amount of durability
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>buying all gear slots to cap my ele weakness resists as CI
>dodgy as fuck making compromises everywhere to hit the caps
>finally hit it
>notice i didn't have an aura on while swapping gear for my necromancer 20% all res

do you think people would just take all this gear back?
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>call cadiro a nigger in global chat
>get a message from dev 20min later not to use hatespeech

what
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>>171138935
I would link it, already 6-linked 9 chests this season takes like 50-150 tries, to get it. Made mad Ex cos of that
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>>171133580
>ssf hc
>ssf
>s o l o s e l f f o u n d
>using a shared stash
>and items from another character
literally delete your character and reroll in normal hc, you missed the point.
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>>171140449
Who's to say he's not respeccing? I've only had one character so far in SSFHC and it has gone through 4 different builds already. Solo, Self-found.
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>run a shaped strand
>get three back

if i was wiser, i might just stop playing at this point lmao
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>>171140234
should've called cardio a kike desu
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>>171140532
he mentioned going inquisitor or elementalist, so correct me if I'm wrong but templar and witch aren't the same character
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>>171140790
Stop assuming things
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took two hours to do this and it made me realize how pants-on-head retarded mob AI is in this game
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what's the realm restart for?
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>>171141591
reassigning loot seeds
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Just got my 2nd tabula rasa in 1 day, what is happening
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>>171141567
Not looking forward to doing that
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>>171141716
what's the worst thing I can vaal it to, besides a rare item
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is item quantity gem worth it? or is it overrated
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>>171141591
WIPE HYPE
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What's this worth?
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>>171142492
O shit nigga
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>>171142492
nothing
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>>171141874

Do it in normal.

Just stick onlaught and invasion together and try to get a torment leaguestone that has more than 1 spirit spawn.

Nothing says you need to do it in Merciless.
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>>171142492
about 13 dollars in rmt
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>>171142961
Bitch nigga alert
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>>171142961
there's a prophecy which makes unique mobs automatically possessed (at least map bosses) by a spirit, would that work with that challenge?
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>tfw ggg renamed my char
what the actual fuck.

Welp here goes the fun, time to reroll.
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You guys use all your t10 shaper orbs? Got my 2nd one but I really only like quay
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>>171143293

Yes it does.
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>reddit
what was it before
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>>171143386
arsenal for dat abandoned wealth card
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>been casual and only now making to maps in lhc
>zana in my third map, get her to level 2
>do daily, its fucking sea witches + beyond + pack size + my stones that I forgot, onslaught, etc, I'm lvl 68 with 3600hp
>first tier2, do factory
>shaper appears, buffs the fucking annoying boss, onslaught, extra cold

stop trying to kill me so soon pls
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>tfw you brick your lab run the room before 3rd izaro
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>>171144141
???
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>>171144141
just remove the gem you tard
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>>171143334
What was your name before?
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I've been playing Zelda since the new league began.

What did I miss?
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>>171144890
flameblast totem elementailsts
double dipping
ssf hc memes
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so I'm out of the loop on maps, they have been reworked a lot I see, what are the ones I should focus on or avoid in the early tiers ?
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>Added 3d art for the following items: Hand of Wisdom and Action

FUCK YES :DD
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If you've ever played a Mathil build in your life, you're a brainwashed sheep.
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>>171145924
what's a mathil
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>>171145924
> not playing a build because someone les eplayed it

kill yourself
or play ssf hc
that's equal
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>copying what others have done
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whats with the mathil hate recently?
is it because he is short or what
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>>171144472
BaronVonNiggerstein
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>DUDE LE FUG LE MATHIL
>WOW USING A MATHIL BUILD? KILL YOURSELF
>SSFHC ONLY FUCK TUTORIALCORE
>REEEE GGG I HATE YOU
>FUCK ZIGGYD
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

dumb catposter
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so easy to trigger mathil cocksucking poopbirds rofl
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so what about them guaranteed 6-links with tempest I've heard about?
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>>171146527
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Chaos orbs are down to 0.11$ on LHC guys
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is the game down?
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>>171146680
>guaranteed
the only guaranteed thing in this game are NPC currency ratios and master benches crafting costs
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>>171146886
realm restart
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>>171146969
oh thanks I thought my internet went to shit
have a chaos orb
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What's with the update?
It suddenly says I need 12.8GB of disk space to update....
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>>171142961
inefficient
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>>171147124
patch has 2 new clases
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>>171147420
Can't even access the damn webiste, but I am inclined to not believe you since that's dumb as shit.
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me: the little girl
the cat: PoE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg_vjRKIjak
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>>171147596
You didn't hear the big announcement this morning?
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>>171147596
scion is split to 2 actual classes that open to the left and right side of the tree from the middle
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>>171147596
we are getting Bard and Dancer classes with their respective ascendancies
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>fixed an issue where biscos amulet was counting grandmasters as white mobs

Can't tell if that would be insanely broken or hardly noticeable
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cast when damage taken + blood rage
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>>171147810
>>171147787
>>171147691
But then where does the Scion's butt go?
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Im a shitter. Lvl 71 memeblast totems. Anyone wanna rip me off and sell me a good +ele resist belt or ring?
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>>171147981
dancer is the new female scion. bard is the male scion.
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>>171147929
infinitely casting blood rage is the most useless thing I could think of
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>>171148000
poe dot trade
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>>171147929
Inethical
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>>171147913
Insanely. It's doubling their output.
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>>171148000
The whole point of totems is that you never have to get hit. Place your totems and then run away.
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>>171147929
Degeneration=/=damage taken
As many other things, CWDT only tracks hits, not DoT
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>tfw cant play hc because shit pc and die from pc dropping to 0 fps
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>>171148171
... are you retarded?
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>>171147810
>>171147787
So when does this go into effect?
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>>171148303
Read it on the wiki, CWDT only tracks hits. BR does not create hits.
Similar how EE behaves in regards to burning.
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>it's a "I have a valid excuse to be a shitcrow" episode
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>>171148303
it's negative regen dude
not damage
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>>171148462
>>171148526
you link it to CWDT so it's automated, there's no implication you link it so that CWDT keeps triggering itself

jesus christ
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>kill regular Rare mob in regular area
>drops a vall gem
Hm, didn't know this could happen
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>>171148643
I bet you still use blasphemy too
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>>171148643
Never said link it. You just named the two skills.
Also, what would the purpose of that be?
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>>171145924
I only play Alkaizer builds. I have none of the things necessary to make Blade Flurry Gladiator work but I'm doing it anyway.
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>>171145924
what if its a fun build though you should play what you want!
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>>171148896
None
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>>171148526
It is without a doubt damage.
It's not a hit though, and cwdt only tracks damage dealt as hits.
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>>171146464
kek
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>>171148526
If it was onyld egen that would be nice.
because then it would be usable for occultists.
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>>171148896
not the same poster, people just start assuming the dumbest shit just because someone says two word

and the purpose is convenience, same reason people link tempest shield instead of casting themselves despite it being a 10s duration buff
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Blood Rage doesn't need constant recasting since keeping it up is trivial vs trash as it refreshes itself on kill however it can be a viable setup for killing bosses since you need the leech then, probably only true for Slayer though
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why is this hard game so easy
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Jdogg in 5055 was discussing some marquis system shit they use to assign loot seeds, what y'all think?
Free
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account seeds are an open secret retard
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>>171151357
how do you get that aoe post 2.6 nerfs
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SSF is a fetish. Masochistic players who want to gimp themselves from exploring the game would play SSF.

What you get out of SSF is a character that is so generic so that it can use just about any junk that drop. Does it test you game knowledge? It does but so does normal temp league players. Have you ever tried to make a build with wonky uniques and mechanic works? That requires more braincells than playing ssf in my opinion.
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>subtle post about std players being good
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>>171152015
You have to go back.
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>>171131717
Plain old RF is decent if a little slow at boss killing.
Plus the aoe buff it got is nice.
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>>171152185
magic
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>enter a map
>no lag
>kill mobs
>no lag
>spot 1 perandus dude
>start spiking hard
>decide shits bad and try to zap away to have a chance to recover from lag
>lag gets harder
>instead game decides to teleport me closer to perandus gang bang
>try to spam flasks
>nothing works
>unfreeze 2 sec later
>dead

I have had 2 mains so far and both of them were killed my lag, im gonna kill myself
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>>171153079
I drop to single digit fps near perandus packs too, play a gladiator or a max block 15% life regen build if you wanna survive those
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>Be mean to new players in chat
>shitty drops all week
>Try to help players the next week
>decent drops

I figured it out, based on chat interactions, it is possible mods edit your seed in order to boost drop rates
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>>171153079
This shit happens to me in every trials, I have to do them with less than 10fps
I'm not even talking about the lab, it's 15fps on the whole shit
but well having pretty water effect is better than optimizing the game.
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>>171153336
I called cadiro a nigger in global chat and got 2 tabula rasa's in next 10minutes
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>>171153336
>Be mean to your mom
>shitty drops all week
>Give her the D the next week
>decent drops

Does your mom work at GGG by any chance?
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>>171153079
i just died to "path of exile stopped working" while there was no mobs near me and generally i was tanky as hell

im done with this league
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>is called cardio
>fat as fuck
what the hell is this shit poeturds?
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>update removes my --noasync launch command and I almost die cause of the stuttering

Thanks.
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>>171153565
>>171153381
>>171153160
Yea Im going a gladiator again, i should have never tried a pussy caster
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>game better than ever
>poeg more casual than ever

getting conflicted feelings right now bros
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>tfw scamming
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>>171153448
Bex is my mom
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>>171153871
where did you find a retard to sell you a shavs for 9 fusings? global?
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requesting the "goelms" image.
you know the one.
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>>171153871
Nice RMT
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>howaa 3d art
looks dope to be honest
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what's the best build for an honorabuu katana wielder
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Champion Hiltless
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kinda depressing to realize PoE has literally killed some people at least, addicted gamers who played until their death and that mirror drop still eluded them in the end
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I'm new to arpgs with only minor exp with D2. How do you build a character? I've made easily 6 characters all around levels 30-38 and they all feel flimsy and weak.
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>>171155315
Follow a guide on the forums, after you gain enough knowledge about the game then try to make a build, it's very difficult and has a ton of mechanics to worry about
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What melee(melee) gem should I use on my upcoming gladiator?
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>>171139416
I did last season.
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>>171156024
lacerate
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>>171156387
*League*
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>>171156024
anything but lacerate
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What should I have in ways of Health and DPS for Merc Lab?
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>>171156579
This Auramancerbloop is retarded.
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>>171154476
Maraketh 2h sword and bleed
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refugees to /poe/
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ice crash with 100% ele (phys to lightning gem in a 5L). there are worse ideas, yeah?
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>>171156885
technically yes, but I just don't see why you're doing it.

syncing your damage to one type means you can use modifiers that affect that type more efficiently but you aren't even going to the same element. Especially in relation to resistance penetration options which physical damage basically doesn't have to deal with (armor lul)
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>>171157364
This. If you're going for 100% conversion, make it all ice via Hrimburn, or all fire via Cold to Fire and Avatar of Fire. Or better yet, both. Then you can abuse Izaro's Turmoil, plus the Snowforged cluster if you're on that corner of the tree. With 100% phys-cold-fire conversion, damage scaling via Izaro's Turmoil becomes highly efficient, leaving you free to focus your nodes other stuff.
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Redpill me on wild strike

I have no idea what to do with it having 3 elements

Triple the hassle
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>>171158070

Mastermind of Discord is good with it.

If you get a purely physical weapon EE is decent as well because 2/3 times you get a damage boost. So it's technically an increase in DPS.
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>>171158254
I don't want a witch

The idea itself makes me anxious
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>>171156579
4500+ hp
10k+ dps
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ST or BF for HoWa?
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>>171159130
st for just general mapping/bossing.
BF if you just want to rape the shit out of bosses but still good at map clearing.

If you rated them both at bossing/mapping
Bf would be like 70/30
Howa like 40/60
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So I think I last played this game with the prophecy league or something (the one after cadiro or whatever the fuck his name was).
Any new content to come back to?
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>people are actually paying ziz to level them in breaches

>they are denying themselves the best leveling time (lake and early maps when you get to see your build really come together) to pay a man to make currency hand over fist currency off them
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>>171159426
this cunt makes so much muns people are retarded so yeah
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>>171159242
So BF is still good after the AoE changes?
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>>171159426
>best leveling time
>lake and early maps
the fuck you smoking.
people are still retard to pay for leveling tho
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>>171159426
same reason why people sub/donate

to see their name on stream so they can say

"wow i was on stream in front of 3000 people!! XD"
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>>171159734
i once donated to a stream with 30 viewers and no alerts

am i cool yet
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>>171159426
you realize breaches have a non-zero rip chance?
in a game mode where ripping means going back to twilight strand?
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>>171159809
nope just a cuck
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>>171159713

>build coming together and you can see its potential
>getting new gear/5Ls
>levels are still very fast and easy
>steaming through all the early map tiers and testing limits

Act leveling is a shitfest, 90+ mapping is fun but much more samey/monotonous

>>171159992

If you rip in lake and early maps you're a fucking shitter. It's the point where you are the strongest vs the content except wearing broken leveling gear in normal.
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>>171160283
I ripped in lake :/
i spiked though
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I spend more time organizing my inventory than I do playing the game.
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Does added chaos damage actually benefit from having increased quality?
Will the 20% bonus be applied to the additive damage? (even though it still says 123 to 185 dmg it will be that plus 20%)
Or is it just in the new "supported skills deal increased chaos damage" affix?
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>play poe beta 4 years ago
>be casual
>just want to click on enemies and watch them die
>couple hours in
>level curve dragged to a grinding halt and got sick of grinding for 45 minutes just to get +5 hp on the sphere grid

is the game pretty much completely different now
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>>171161235

It's a 20% increase to chaos damage like all other increases.

All increases and mores apply to the base damage because that's what they are scaling...
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>>171161235
think of it like a passive point
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>>171161360
maybe
what's ur build
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>>171161360

I mean, the game is grindy by design and the longer you play the longer levels take. This is how these games work.

But if you just want to blast some monsters ass here and there what difference does it make to you?

Though the game has changed a lot since beta, it's faster, easier and more "showy" now. You'll probably find it more enjoyable once you get up and running.
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>>171161360
Leveling has not changed that much. They fucked up royally by making all the interesting support gems unavailable until the end of the fucking game on normal, but besides that it's just PoE
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>>171158070
its a bad skill
avoid
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>>171159809
was it a cute grill/trap streamer?
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I made this weapon and having nothing better in ssfhc. What build should i make?
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>>171162473
no
it was a funny dude starting out

>>171162378
but I wanna

it seems fun

im gonna
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>>171162668
a better build
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>>171162668
use contempt essences to craft something better
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>>171162668
>310pdps 2h mace

vendor it
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>>171160283
>lake and early maps
we're talking about breaches you retard
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reminder that if you do not roll hard maps, you have no right to complain about no returns
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>>171162862
pic not related
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>>171162668
phys to light EQ or sunder
its really not that good tho

>>171162709
ok. if you have a phys weapon base you absolutely need to roll witch because damage is gonna be a fucking rainbow of shit

if you build using an ele foil (or fidelitas spike) and go lightning-only with auras and shit, its like any other ele build and you can be ranger or shadow
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>>171162996
im looking at witch now and I kinda like the idea


but what defenses would she have, nothing really is in the way
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>>171162862

>magic, rare, turbo double boss
>hard in any way

>but I put onslaught on with it waaah

lmao
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>>171162862
At least there is no reflect, that is the single most cancerous shit ever.
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>>171163094
clearly you've never done double onslaught twinned excavation
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>>171163092
you have mom, or CI if you go 2h (assuming you cant be bothered to spend billions of chromes rolling melee colors on an ES chest)

if you go mom you could use BoR, with shield and a good 1h (like varunastra) and get block shit from templar and the block flask. if you use lyco you can forget about even needing RT and you can use EO
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>>171163092
You don't have to be witch for phys conversion wild strike

inquis does it well

hell even heirophant can do it decently with a BoR
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so i just started playing this game and, so far, ive been enjoying it. can a summoner build still be viable for higher levels?
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>>171163191

That isn't an excavation though, it's a fucking tier 1-5 map because the Less Area of Effect mod is only 15 (not 20 for yellow or 25 for red)

There is a reason he cut the map name out.
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>>171163471
yes
but the really good summoner builds arent cheap/easy to do as your first build. unless its a SRS one. google "srs path exile guide"
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>>171163471
unless you're using summon raging spirits you'll need a few uniques to make an actually good summoner
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>>171163580
>>171163651
thanks, i just got summon raging spirits from fetid pool. from what i understand, the stones scales with levels, right?
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>>171164128
yeah soon you'll get gems that alter the skills provided the sockets are linked
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>>171164128
You level up the skill gems, they gain exp as you gain exp (think it's 15% of the rate you do) as long as they are in a socket on worn equipment.

After some levels there'll be support gems that manipulate the active skill gems in various ways if you link them in your gear.

If you want your first char be properly valid in end-game you'll probably want to find a build guide for pointers, or at least watch Engineering Eternity's beginner guide series to make things a bit smoother. There are a few pitfalls in this game for new players.

Can be more fun going in blind for your first character though.
>>
Map device accessible from level 1
Maps drop and start at 1
Skill books attainable from mapping

Please and ty
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>>171164747
Few pitfalls?

im 200 hours in and i have no fucking idea what im doing with the builds, i just know the map in and out
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poetards?
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>>171164916
many mechanics are purposefuly made obtuse to confuse people
use the wiki, its mostly accurate
>>
dreams die
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>>171165192
>fun has been slain
As if it ever existed to begin with
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>>171165192
>xhe didnt even flask
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>>171165192
why didn't you basalt?
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>>171164916
Yeah true, I'm several hundred hours in and hopelessly bad at the game, and GGG likes to describe relatively simple mechanics in retarded ways sometimes.
>Your Critical Strike Chance is Lucky

Mostly I was talking about the usual newbie traps like ending up with 1k life going into merciless and dying several times per map because of no life scaling nodes.
>>
>Wasting currency on MS boots as a non-bow/wand build
??
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>>171165479
>>171165524
i died instantly to those OP spark mages up there
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>>171165534
you should at least be able to hold down alt or something to see exactly what it means by lucky
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hmm
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>>171165696
>paying top dollar for some QoL is bad

not saying i would do it, but i can understand why someone would
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>>171165696
It's a quality of life improvement and can actually help with things like indoor maps and lab.
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>>171165696

Because there are plenty of times when you want to walk or are forced to walk places.
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>>171165696
Shield charge scales with ms
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do prophecy upgraded items keep their sockets/links/colors etc?
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>>171165745
>>171165192

>doesn't have fortify and end charge on melee stun on leap slap
>no instant pots
>2h life build with no real mitigation

thinking
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these people make irl twitch stream unbearable
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>>171166243
yup
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>>171166302
i had 45 up

i was half a second away from killing them but they killed me first

a topaz wouldn't have saved me there. i literally died instantly
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>>171166376

ok thank fuck

>3 fuses
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>>171166302
he has a forbidden taste you blind ass nigga
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>>171166450
>hyrri mention
Triggered.
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>>171166361
why do you bother virtue signalling on an anonymous nazi forum?
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>there are almost more legacy toh's for sale than regular ones
>legacy prices aren't dropping
>regular are going up

save me
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>beginner friendly, cheap, all map mod and bosses viable :)
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>>171167316
k
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>>171167316
what is flameblast totems?
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>>171165192
>>171165745
>ele weakness

let's see those capped resists
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hi poeg i'm about to reroll blade flurry

i have a soul taker and a death's hand and i want to use them

i'm wondering if i should go crit or not? CI or not? i have decent CI gear...

i'm thinking either raider(non-crit) or assassin(crit)

here's a tree i made for a non-crit life build

poeurl.com/bbi7

ssf hc btw
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>die, lose 90+ character in LHC
>immediately start thinking about ways I need to improve my real life
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>tfw already burnt out
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>>171167316

>it's another incompetent player can't think ahead enough/doesn't understand basic mechanics to make builds and has to always follow guides to get anything done
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>>171167683

I think you may have autism if that's what you got from that post.
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>>171167618
Im having that exact thing past few days

There's a good side though, when I get super sad, I start to exercise constantly to distract myself

Might be dead in mind but atleast I can run
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>>171167490
why are you asking us shitters mister demi-haver?
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Lads, what's the best starter build (memesticks need not apply)
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what build do I fucking play?
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>>171167956
i'm so lonely
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>>171167996
flameblast totems
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>>171167996
Frost blades
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>>171167490
>non crit
>life
Why the fuck would you do that
Dual scourge or get out
>>
Wither-Cwc-Anime Weapon looks fun. Convince me not to do it
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>>171167996
howa
vaal spark
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>>171168093
its highly unethical for starters.
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>>171168093
why the fuck do you think we care what you do you spastic
>>
See you in two and a half months.
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Hey guys I just hit the jackpot, I found a shavs and then 6 linked it pretty quickly so now I have 14 exalts in legacy softcore. Whats a fun build I can try out with this, never had this much currency before.
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>>171168259
Flicker.
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>>171165192
>life builds
>in 2017
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>>171168259

There's no such thing as a fun build.
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>>171168326

Most of my builds are life based evasion builds in HC
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>>171168259
LL with shavs.
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>>171167490
you should just copy alk's max block gladiator build
it's tanky and fast, perfect for a shitter like you who can't hit his flasks in time
>>
>max block
>fast
:^)
>>
>tfw auramancer with no friends

JUST
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>>171167996
Summon Skellingtons.

Buy a million Army of Bones cheap.
Buy Queen's Decree. You will get enough currency drops to buy one from scratch by the time you can wield it.
Pick up Necro Ascendancy, get the chaos cloud notable.
Become Skellington Lord.
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>>171168667
alk regularly ranks top 10-top 5 and he competes against vaal sparkers and howawawawawawa fotm macro scripters, so yeah I'd say his build is plenty fast, provided the one playing it is not skilless
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>>171167996
SRS

>>171168149
>vspark
>league starter
Requires 2 sac harvests + chill just to get started, sucks major ass at killing certain bosses, and I hope you like tabula.
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Coruscating is broken as shit, don't tell anyone.
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>>171168736
i can't flurry with soultaker + death's hand

have to find a new skill to use
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>people shitting on life
>when kaom roots make it so even tabula shitters can have 6k hp ez
>when even 1k dex shitters can have decemt life with shaper gloves

fucking reddits
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RUNEWORDS WHEN
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>unique strongbox
>drops a kaom unique
>level 20 in normal caverns, figure that basically the only thing it will drop will be the ring

>this happens

can you literally get a kaoms heart as early as strongboxes start appearing

thats fucking absurd
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checkem
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>>171169129
But I'm playing a life build in SSFHC.
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>>171168878

SRS is the only correct answer.
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>>171169207
ya i think i saw a 28 kaoms heart on xyz
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>>171169245

well good for you then, if you like this game enough to put that much effort in it. roots are still easy to obtain with div cards
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>>171169462
I know, I'm wearing them. Best buffed unique in 2.6, being immune to chill and temp chains is invaluable.
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>kaom root
>good
lamo
enjoy 0% ms
0% res
0 sockets
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>>171169783
>being this bad
>>
>Someone saying their Cadiro has Shavronne's Wrappings in a map but can't afford it, just asking for a tip
>Turns out they actually did, and only wanted one exalt in return
Kinda fucking annoys me. That shit was 4.5ish exalts profit over the coins and they're just sitting there in global chat asking to get scammed.

I'm a super fucking amazing person and you should all suck my cock though since I just bought it for him and gave him 4.5 exalts though. Then I bragged about it online because that's cash money baby. Not even joking.
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I dunno why I even tried killing Triple Essence Izaro.

Overconfidence is a slow and insidiuous killer they say.
>>
Kaom's Roots
>frees up the of heat prefix on your flask, allowing for an adrenaline suffix instead (20-30 ms so you lose basically nothing)
>doesn't need resists because resists are easy to get if you don't have shit gear
>doesn't need sockets if you're smart about socket management
>has 175 life

Any additional non-arguments?
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>>171170047
You went beyond overconfidence and straight up into full retard mode, not point in buffing Izaro when it's not the uber lab version since you gain nothing from merc chests
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>>171170161

I didn't buff him by accident. It's just fucking difficult to keep the essences away from him when you're "melee"
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>>171170047
if it the fight is risky for you, you shouldnt have let him get buffed. only if you have enough dps you should not give a fuck about his buffs
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>>171170047
Dunno why you were even playing HC, shitter.
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>>171170201

I didn't do it on purpose, I meant.
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>>171170049
>has 175 life
up to 200 now

also ranger has free movespeed on any of the good ascendancies, and so does slayer
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>>171170201
should have aborted the mission then and tried another day then

know your limits
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>>171170047

>playing HC

that was your first mistake. you really think all the tryhards in /poeg/ even get as far as merc izaro?
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I just got insanely bored with my vaal sparker for some reason I think its because I only run the same 3 maps over and over Im thinking about rerolling whats a build that I can take all the way to shaper but isn't very expensive
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>>171170327
its a lot easier than you shitbirds think
you just have to not be stupid
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>>171170327
did uber izaro at level 85 with ssf gear and 6k life lol

just don't get hit lol
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>>171170047
>2h mace Izaro

Ok, if this was Sword Izaro I would have felt sorry for you getting crit from across the entire room, but Mace Izaro is the easiest shit ever.
Literally just walk away when he's gonna slam.
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>>171170047
>health over time flask
>zero mitigation flasks

you got what you asked for
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>>171170570
he would need a basalt a stibnite and 3 resist flasks to mitigate a triple essence izaro
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>>171170620
Or just run 1. A quicksilver to not get hit. Easy.
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>>171170554

That's what I was doing. Taking it veeery slow. But I got sniped by a dart and surrounded while phasing was down. Should've brought a Silver flask since I was playing Raider.
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Why don't MoM builds use hybrid flasks?
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>want to take normal Izaro on by myself on lvl 38
>manage to keep two of the idols down by myself
>get the item from the Reiliquary to instakill one essence
>manage to DPS him down before the second one reaches him
>remember too late that all essences have to be destroyed

Fuck.
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>>171170749
>>171170047
>Frostblades
>Raider
Touch of Anguish?
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>>171170761
they either leech/regen mana too fast for flasks to be worth it, or they macro autopot a regular high efficiency mana flask
>>
what builds would use ele daggers
got one t2 fire/cold/light with t2 crit/multi
no attack speed sucks but its ok
>>
>>171171285
Raider buzzsaw
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>>171170853

You can easily get 100% conversion with these new nodes, the atk speed scales well and the Raider buffs work well with anything. + The phasing branch gets a decent +40% Elemental damage increase and that delicious status ailment immunity.
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ok poeg this is a new gamebreaking build

>crit dual wield deadeye frost blades

poeurl.com/bbjL

>frost blades > multistrike > WED > melee phys > crit dmg / poison / faster attacks / crit strikes
>hatred > herald of ice > herald of ash / aa
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>>171171862
nice sh*tcrow build
>>
>>171171658
I know, I'm currently trying to make such a build.
I found one that uses Lycosidae but I want to use Acrobatics so the only way to utilize counterattacks would be Vengeance. I've been looking into alternatives. I was also considering Kaltenhalt or Atziris Mirror or maybe Ewar's
>>
>cant cap resistances because everyone i try to buy a res ring off is afk/doesnt exist/doesnt respond

nice 'poomunity' you got here
>>
>>171172161
counters have shitty high cooldowns
lyco is good because of the FREE 100% accuracy, not anything else
>>
>>171172335
Is that really worth THAT MUCH over giving up so much DPS?
>>
You can get up to ~115 flat life on rare boots. Is it really worth all that just for up to an additional 85 flat life? Assuming perfect Kaom's Roots.
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>>171172847
you are not thinking straight. dps in attack builds is limited by 2 factors: accuracy and scaling. however much you scale damage, you will always do shit damage if your accuracy is not up to par

100% acc simplifies your itemization greatly
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>>171172943
No. They have exceedingly better value:cost ratio than what 100 life tri res ms boots would cost you though.
>>
>Kaom's boots doesn't counter the slow from cyclone
lol @ this item

>>171173023
why are you comparing rare boots with tri res to kaom's which have 0 res? the fuck?
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What's a good bow skill for fast leveling? Is there any equivalent to a Firestorm to just carry me through normal and cruel?
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>>171173150
Storm Cloud.
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>>171173150
shrapnel shit
tornado shot
blast rain
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>>171173058
Because if you forego 85 life which is like 400 after multipliers, you better make sure you have the move speed and res to back it up? You're not going to beat Kaom's in the utility department that's for sure, since it allows you to run temp chains and chilled ground maps for free like a Juggernaut.
>>
>>171173231
>400 after multipliers
That's a bit of a stretch, but that depends on what boots you can get and your tree.

You need to consider that since you're sacrificing a lot with Kaom's Roots, you need to make up for it elsewhere (sockets are always something to consider, levelling gems to corrupt/sell, extra CwDT defense etc) no resists and lack of MS really sucks.

Personally Kaom's Roots would be god-tier (but not overpowered) if it simply had MS. Even 20%, doesn't need to be 30%.
>>
>Australia unplayable 2 days in a row
bravo G*3
>>
>>171173368
Yeah it's closer to 300 life, I'm dumb, still a hefty amount for a life build though

And Kaom's is nicely balanced, it won't ever be BiS but it's a nice swap in for temp chains maps especially if you don't need the 4 sockets
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>>171173368
lack of MS is the least of concerns with most melee builds. of you find yourself quicksilvering everywhere, you are doing it wrong

the sockets are a valid concern, but not something that will break builds (most, at least). resist are a non-issue
>>
>>171173486
?

I'm sitting in my hideout with a flat 30 ping and have been for like an hour
>>
>>171173542
Arguable BiS for RFags. Unless you really want MS boots.
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>>171173486
>16 ms

NBN feels good mang.
>>
>3 essence of insanity's
>almost 30 remnants used
fuck you
>>
alright pooehj lend me your power for the mightiest memes
hiero kinetic blast avatar of fire totems with rain of spinters and sire
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>>171173752
Can I get a hug first
>>
>>171173819
should be a berserker and not totems
>>
>merely pretending to be retarded
>>
I feel like its gonna take me about 2300more hours into this game to finally become aware of myself and understand what im doing and why
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>>171172080
please critique it
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>>171173882
already have a zerker and I'm looking for something to drag down my faux tryhard internet friends while still looking like I'm doing something
>>
>>171173991
I stopped reading after "crit" you sh*tcrow
>>
>>171173819
>avatar of fire

dont grab keystones just because you like how they are named
>>
>>171174007
you can't kinetic blast with a staff
1/10 for making me reply
>>
>>171173819
How will you kinetic blast with sire of shards
>>
>enemies that explode on death
This shit is hella gay and hella dumb

If an enemy is literally a walking timebomb, there needs to be a better indicator of this status other than "read this tiny text lololol"
>>
>>171132387
how's the clear speed?
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PoE top 3 noobtraps:

1. scion
2. deadeye
3. AoF
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How do you not get 1 shot in maps? I have NEAR the elemental cap in all elements and -40% in chaos resist. How is achieving both possible while still having enough life/ES to do well?
>>
>>171173819

7 lightning warp totem heirophant with formless inferno and tukohama's fortress + MoM + CI stacking pure mana and armor
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>>171174368
you just grind gear in dried lake dude
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>>171174361
>2. deadeye
have you ever looked at rupture
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>>171174368
Chaos resist isn't so important because you're primarily only going to get hit by chaos damage that is damage over time, which allows you to react and heal. Most people run with no real chaos resist at all except Atziri's Promise flask.

You also want life on every single piece of gear with a preferably tier 1 roll.
>>
>>171174329
decent. you dont delete screens because of limited aoe, but single target specially is pretty ok
>>
>>171173005
Wouldnt it be just as good to just get one of Vagans Weapons for the offhand and craft some fitting mods on there too?
>>
>>171174489
yeah, but you havent really
>>
>>171174489
Have you ever seen the true face of god?
>>
>>171174634
vagan mod is local to the weapon
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>>171174413
>7 lightning warp totem heirophant
>56% less damage
why does hierophant have to be so fucking awful at the only thing people want to do with it?
>>
>>171174361
>Not using the secret AoF exploit that allows you to quintuple dip
>>
>>171174741
It's still more damage though, isn't it? I mean if you could stack 7 totems without getting a damage penalty it'd be one of the most powerful boss killers around
>>
>5ex
>4 req keys
>0 steel rings

god fucking damn how hard are these shits to find.
>>
>>171174968
7 totems would be 700% your dps

however: with the gem innate penatly, and the per-totem penalty, 7 totems becomes like 320% of your dps

a complete bust
>>
>>171174734
Oh, now I get the difference betwen "Hits can't be evaded" and "Your hits can't be evaded"
>>
Why isn't dominating blow a support gem
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>>171174649
>frost blades
>soul taker
>hatred+hoi
>death's hand
>poison
>rupture
>far shot + point blank
>powerful precision
>>
>>171175160
i don't know about complete bust, i tried out a 4 warchief crit totem build with hiltless that was pretty decent at whacking down bosses. probably only would've been improved with the MoM buff
>>
>>171175447
WA would have no innate gem penalty (like spells via spell totem) and 4 totems would give you still 71% of your 400% dps, so %284

its not that bad when used this way.
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>>171172943
>2x t1 prefix + 1x t1 suffix + decent reses
vs
>literally 1 alch for max roll
Rare boots are better. They also cost several hundred times as much, and it's nearly impossible to get good rare boots with +1 frenzy.
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>when you put onslaught+rampage on the racecourse map
DEJA VU
IVE JUST BEEN IN THIS PLACE BEFORE
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>>171171862

>multistrikes and faster
>melee phys on a mostly projectile skill

kys
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>>171175437
done better by:
pathfinder
assasin
raider


when there is not a single build that deadeye is the best choice for, you know its a broken ascendancy
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>>171173005
So considering I have a rather good hitchance on my level i guess accuracy only becomes a problem later on?
What is the threshold where I should consider dropping one weapon and switching to Lyco?
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>>171174540
yeah I was wondering because I wanted to play elemental molten strike raider. Thing is I leveled with spectral throw, but now I'm 82 and still using ST.
So I'm basically playing ele buzzsaw at this point because switching to molten strike would probably lower my clear speed.
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>>171174968
if you can drop that passive point and still get at least 4 totems you would be dealing more damage than 7 with that penalty. not to mention how retarded it is to place and then try to keep up 7 fucking totems.
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need a separate inventory for currency and league shit i think
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>>171175812
when you cant keep your accuracy near 90
if you are crit, the dps penalty is even bigger if it dips low in the 80s, since criting puts more pressure on accuracy checks
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>>171175796
this isn't true, deadeye is the only good ascendancy for the broken Red Trail builds around
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>>171175796
rupture + deadly techniques > master herbalist

you can't beat my theorycrafting lmao i'm a genius
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>>171175915
The inventory clutter keeps getting worse and worse, even dumping between maps is a bit painful unless you sort later.
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>cutthroat+thugs+onslaught groundslam exile
wew
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>>171176015
nah, not crit. Frostblade and Touch of Anguish. ToA removes the freeze from crits so there's less incentive. Also would rather put my points into decent penetration rather than crits.
Right now using Ewar's and gotta say, the Chaining really beefs up the damage in small groups, since most targets will get hit by more than one projectile
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>>171176392
There's an exile that uses some fiery groundslam shit. He leapslams onto you and takes out half your HP, even with +60% resist. Then he groundslams and just obliterates you.
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>>171176069
>Red Trail
but you only need red trail because you arent raider

>>171176196
>rupture plus something that doesnt exist
>blabla

ok kid
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Poison bladefall mines
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>>171176542
old, and dead meta
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>>171176504
*dirty techniques
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>>171176542
Didn't someone level to 100 by farming uber atziri with that in perandus.
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can someone check my pathing and efficiency?

level 95 build

http://poeurl.com/bbkD

light trap crit fire,cold conversion elementalist with call of the brotherhood and cold to fire gem
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>>171176504
Raider isn't a crit build
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>>171176626
>2 ass points & 3 tree points (Assuming you dont invest in getting there)
>25% chance to bleed
>25% chance to poison bleeding
>so 6% chance to poison on your 2nd hit
>if that poisons, it will deal 70% inc damage with 20% duration and some added crit multi

master hebalist
>2 asspoints
>guaranted poison
>20% inc poison duration, damage, 30% chaos resist

::thinking::
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>Autistic
>Uses 4chan memes like they're going out of style

Is Tarkecat: Dare I say: Our Guy?
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>>171176923


no bleed though
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>>171177101
Bleed sucks dick retard
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>>171177087
No
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>>171176923
if you already have bleed and poison on hit, the crit chance and multi is way better than just poison damage and duration
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>>171177147
sure it does :^)
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>>171177176
your 6% """"""""""""""""""poison on hit"""""""""""" may as well not exist
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>>171177218
what 6% poison on hit?
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>>171177278
from ascendancy and tree

if you are talking about being forced to use a gem or cospris, then you may as well just go assassin
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Imagine if you died in HC, you'd die in real life

one can only dream
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>>171177428
>no more TryHardCore fags
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>>171177356
You mean the parts of the ascendancy and tree I said you didn't have to rely on?
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How do I figure out skill tree to know where to go

Like the best nodes and what to avoid, I usually take the closest thing that resembles what I need
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>>171177521

like i said, if you want to move that goalpost, deadeye is still subpar compared to assassin on crit scaling
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>>171167490
You unleash an additional strike for each stage reached once the channelling ends. Requires a Dagger, Claw or One-Handed Sword.
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>>171177657
Plan iut your build ahead of time to have better pathing to nodes that you decide to take
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>>171177658
So you agree that rupture is better than master herbalist when you're already bleeding and poisoning on hit?
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>>171177764
i already changed the build to frost blades
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>>171177856
if you are already bleeding and poisoning on hit, why would you compare it with master herbalist?

your thinking is flawed if you attempt to compare 2 ascendancies under different build assumptions each (one poisons already, they other doesnt)
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>>171177765
But I don't know what I want to get in the long term

The other games that were numbers heavy took me till I understood everything in an out, every single calculation and what affects what till I felt comfortable with myself
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>>171177984
No, if i'm making a build that bleeds and poisons on hit, it's a pretty good idea to compare the two ascendancies under those assumptions
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>>171178096

so you have a build that poisons, and you are considering using an ascendancy that allows you poison (again?) vs one that scales damage?

instead of comparing 2 ascendancies that scale crit damage in different ways, like in your case, assassin and deadeye?

sounds to me like you are purposefully cherrypicking a situation that makes deadeye seem like its not utter and complete shit by ignoring something much better
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>>171178270
>done better by:
>pathfinder
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I feel like there are 4 guys here at this very moment

Im going shadow wild strike, and I have 0 idea what im doing and how im gonna drive around the skill tree

but i'll try to have fun
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deadeye also gives FREE 100% pierce, 30% MORE damage, and some other useful things

it's goat for frost blades
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>>171178537
this is not the pic I selected
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>>171178604
>triggering freeposter
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>>171178486
so i was right.
but read again, i also mentioned assassin.
different builds have different constrains

if there was no innate poison, pathfinder is better
if there is assasin is better.
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>>171178690
>so I was right

It's not done better by pathfinder though. Which is what the guy who originally replied to that badly pointed out
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>>171178604
you are forgetting chain which is what would save the ascendancy if it was +2 instead of +1
unfortunately for deadeyefags, assasin still comes out better given the very high crit scaling possible, of both the base crit and multi

>>171178748
the guy was comparing a poison enabling ass keystone to a combination of keystone and tree clusters that also enables poison, even if very badly

claiming poison was assumed as already part of the build makes that comparison pointless, if you dont realize that you arent thinking logically
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deadeye is sleeper op for cast on crit ek

which is gonna make a comeback once people realize how buffed CoC got
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>>171178945
poison is assumed, he types it in this post >>171175437

If you're going to call me out, at do it correctly about assuming bleed
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>>171178992
how did coc get buffed exactly
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>>171179113
cocc got the succ
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>>171179085
if he is assuming poison without ascendancies then why chose to compare it to pathfinder's poison enabling keystone?

im calling you out because at this point you are blinding defending the undefensible
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do totem nodes affect minions made by totems
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>>171179113
it didnt. the game needs to run well on xbox1 so coc is locked at a .500ms cooldown
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>>171179376
>ARPGs on cosole

I usually don't care what you play your games on, but somethings just don't make sense.
>>
>just crafted a 750 regalia
cool. how much currency do you think it will take to 6L?
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>>171179441
just wait for the Path of Building console port
tweaking all those lists and checkboxes with your controller is gonna be hairy
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>>171179561
took me 400c worth on lsc for my regalia

it could also take 1fuse
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>>171179274
Presumably because if you needed the poison on hit pathfinder would be better, but without it, deadeye does more damage
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>>171179561
It took me about 50 with the blessings of an unnecessarily luck friend
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>>171179634
if its already established you dont need the poison on hit, as you claim, the comparison is, like i said, pointless. if you already have the poison, common sense dictates you compare ways to scale your damage. not ways to further get poison you dont need

Like i already mentioned, if you have to craft synthetic comparisons among ascendancies where assumptions pre-preemptively discard one of them, you arent really trying to find out which one is better, you are simply justifying your choice you already made

If you want to compare which one scales poison, bleed and crit better, look at assassin, which i had already mentioned.

Dont reply to me until you understand this.
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>>171179348
>not the damage mods
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I wish I could get to mapping part before dying from lag
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>>171111257
Running slayer lacerate crit with terminus, use voidheart, carnage heart, haemophilis gloves and pretty much become the bamf you see in the slayer avatar.
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>the gull for 500 goy
brodiro
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>>171180197

you're not going to get better if you try and find reasons outside your control as to why you're not succeeding at the game
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>>171180373
Im honestly not

I froze all times right as I was heading into a herd of mobs and trying to using a movement spell to get away with 0.2fps actually made me get closer to the herd till I froze and died 2 seconds later
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>>171180312
>carnage heart

not on a slayer, pointless
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>>171138935
200 fus budget, if fail no feel bad cause shav drop
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>>171180483
>40% increased during while leeching
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>>171180478

alright well

lag refers to connectivity problems

now you're citing performance issues

it's not a very taxing game

you need to be able to operate a computer to play
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>>171179931
deadeye > assassin 2bh
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>>171180637
additive damage, not worth it over a chaos damage essence ammy or a flat phys one
>>
why can't we just spec into any/all ascedancies

4 ass, 4 occultist baybe
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>>171180767
six inquis two elementalist seems balanced
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"melee"
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>>171179931
Once again, you brought up pathfinder. You said it was better.

If common sense dictates you compare ways to scale your damage, you still haven't justified why you said pathfinder would scale a crit frost blades build better than deadeye

Assassin is entirely irrelevant

Also, through this entire discussion we haven't even mentioned frost blades' janky ass mechanics. You could possibly make an argument that deadeye is better than assassin for it due to the need for the chain or projectiles returning to you to effectively clear packs. Might need testing
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>>171180967
molten strike for single target
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>>171180901
>tfw no slave girl mana orb
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>>171181193
its coming back in 3.0
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>>171181461
i heard 3.0 will also cure cancer and get me a gf
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>>171181461
>>
>can't move the shaper's orb anywhere
>stuck in inventory
well shiet. what's the "best" tier 1 map? just incase so i don't use it on a not-so-good map.
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>>171180967
>proj return keystone
that means no chain, and the last mobs on the pack would make projectiles return IF they arent pierced, but they themselves would not be hit twice

so you have either that or chain, and neither of which do anything to single target

other than that, deadeye scales via far shot, and the crit multi bonus (40%)

Pathfinder scales via flasks, which give you a more reliable crit than the 80% inc from deadeye, and MUCH more damage than the 40% crit multi. oh yes deadeye can use flasks too, but pathfinder recharges flasks on critical hits, giving you near infinite upkeep even against single targets that dont die quick. in addition, pathfinder has more defensive options, not even counting what defensive flasks permanently up can do for you
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>touch these shrines
>11/12
>echoing shrine never shows up
>haven't actually gotten a shrine leaguestone in forever
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>howa got an actual 3d art, but you are throwing gloves everywhere

I guess there is no option left besides banana throws.
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>>171181683
Oh there's only 4 tier 1 maps now. Don't mind me.
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>>171181956
I thought my spectral throw looked different today
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>troveposting

im i doing it right?
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>>171182039
no you absolute fucking moron
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>>171182039
absolutely not
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>>171168259
Abberath's Hooves
2x Obliteration Wand
Vinktar's
Carcass Jack, Every AoE node in the tree.
Pathfinder (for poison)

a)Hidden Potential
b)area damage + chaos damage/damage jewels
(le heup, belt of deceiver, % damage talisman)

Enjoy walking through maps watching shit explode.

Use bloodrage for frenzies, get onslaught from tree, and remember to keep up vaal haste / phase run.

I used wither->cwc->bladefall->poison->conc for single target, and added chaos->poison->conc->void manip on boots.
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>>171181956
seems kinda silly if you really take a look at it but atleast now you really see it

anyway i don't regret buying the seraph mtx for it
>>
https://poebuildroulette.github.io/

Anyone up for challenge?
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>>171182236
not even bad
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>>171182236
>frost wall
you couldnt pay me to play that
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>>171182174
>spectral grope

problematic
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>>171182236
was fine up until ice spear
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hahah FUCK YOU
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wtf?
>http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Ragin_Spirit
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how is this bad poetards
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>>171180901
fucking retard
>spectral THROW
>melee
0/10 didn't even bait me, never post again and just fucking off yourself
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>>171182520
it isnt
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>>171182170
Shit. Sorry, I'm sleepy - swap both poison gems for controlled destruction.
>>
what kind of damage does the izaro green vomit do
>>
>>171182729
phys, normally
>>
the kind you can easily avoid so it doesn't really matter
>>
>>171180138
What is this attire supposed to convey?
>>
50+ keys, lvl 94 - still searching for that fucking Kaom.
>>
Do you guys play HC alone? Im starting to get a bit lonely
>>
yes, SSF HC is the only way to truly enjoy the game

I don't have friends anyway
>>
Selling 2/3 of my liver to i can buy a supporter pack. Leave IGN if interested
>>
>>171183231
I play poe alone. HS or SC
I tried playing some maps with 2 friends and it was painful
the game is already a pain in the ass to play alone since it's optimized by retard, but when you play with people it's even worse
>>
>>171183021
that's he's a cheap ladyboy carrying multiple std's
>>
A FINE DAY TO YOU, EXILE!
>>
>take a shower and fresh clothes
>still feel dirty

how do purify my soul poeg
>>
>Do malafag on merciless
Get some shit rares
>Go do some maps
>Someone asks for help on malachai merciless
>Help them
>they get taste of hate from the fucking faggot
No, fuck you game, fuck youuuuuuuuuuuuuu
>>
>>171184825
Talk to Gravicius if you're a witch
>>
>tfw had a crazy nice start in breach but it's only really dawning on me now that I have to grind currency this league
>>
How do i know which jewels are worth keeping
>>
>>171185047
Coherent damage
Crit multi
%es
More than one resistance
>>
>THE UNBRE-

this fucking prophecy chain challenge i swear

i guess i should just buy that shit
>>
>do a map
>it drops 5 maps of +1/-1 levels
feels good man
>>
Where does Voidbringer come in in the mana calculations? If I have 75 mana cost on my spell totem and equip 50% Voidbringer, will it cost 112,5 (75x1.5)?
>>
How does the new melee splash compare to slayer impact? It looks like it does more damage and has a way bigger area
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>>171182236
CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
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>>171182236
Jesus
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>>171170047
>hardcucks
>>
Never made a berserker before. How bad does the 10% increased damaged taken hurt in lab? Pretty rippy or is it manageable? That juicy 40% more double dipping damage is pretty tempting rn but chieftan seems a lot safer.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqDMn3rnBUY

post music that gives a boost to your exp/h
>>
>>171186470
https://youtu.be/x_Y0SFJsd80?list=LLj-YbU0eLziUDr6V2utOp4A
>>
How's the tidebreaker weapon for a Jugg or a permastun build?
>>
>>171186470
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NZdggNUvq0
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>all these ssf hc faggots

is this all you have going for you in life?
putting time into something that will be irrelevant in 3 months?
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>>171186641
What's the point of permastunning the trash?
>>
anyone know how to build molten strike? I can't find a good guide anywhere

Is it just a shit skill?
>>
>>171186852
You do know the dead characters don't get deleted, it all still goes to standard
>>
89 on my RF now. I really enjoyed the ez modo gameplay and innate tankiness of this build.

I'm thinking of started a new character once I hit 90. Any other builds that are equally braindead and idiotproof like tank RF?

I'm gonna miss mapping with just one hand while eating with the other
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>>171186532
good stuff
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>>171186980
>plays standard when new leagues are live
suuuuuuure you do ;^)
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>>171186852
nothing you do in this game is relevant
you're wasting your time any way, retard
>>
>>171187138
>you're wasting your time
says the loser putting more effort into the video game.
please, continue telling yourself whatever you need to.
>>
>>171187136
Im just saying its not all lost
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>>171186253
Well, it's a good thing Acrobatics provides Dodge instead of Evasion. Your pathing is going to suck though. At least you get to pick from three different starts.
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>>171187212
please tell me how wasting 500 hours of your life in SSFHC is any more irrelevant than wasting 500 hours in your life in babycore
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>>171187485
>implying

spent at most 20 hours in "babycore", rolling through the content
Glad you wasted 500 hours of your life though
Makes my argument that more solid :^)
>>
>>171187332

But it is lost, being in std/regular hc is essentially a deleted character.

I keep my good characters around for memories but I will never play them again.
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>>171187574
How is that different from just sticking to sc
>>
>>171187637

not him are you intentionally being thicker than molasses or are you that lost?
>>
>>171187637

> from just sticking to sc

Because SC is worthless, nothing matters there.
>>
to be fair you're only wasting your time if you don't enjoy it
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>>171187695
i haven't slept in quite a while
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>>171187552
you don't have an argument though, you've actually declined any interest in even advancing an argument, equating less time played as somehow a benefit like a retarded casual normalfaggot and failing to prove why playing babycore for 20 hours is any more "relevant"
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>>171186393
If I can do it with an abyssus you can do it with 10%
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>>171187724
>Because SC is worthless

Says the person so focused on "not dying" in a video game.
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>>171187849
it's called a challenge, as minimal as it is
you should try it instead of shoveling shit directly into your mouth
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>>171187787
>you don't have an argument though

I stated my argument: 20 hours vs. 500 hours; you choose to waste your time on artificial difficulty.

You're looking for reasons to not have this discussion for obvious reasons :^)
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>>171187891
>it's called a challenge

So is eating soup with a fork but you keep eating that chowder kid! You'll finish it eventually!
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>>171188007
>tfw had to eat a soup with toothpicks once
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>>171187920
>artificial difficulty
who cares if it's artificial? it lengthens the gameplay which is the intended purpose you fucking retard
>20 hours vs. 500 hours
not an argument
go play tic tac toe, takes 5 seconds instead of 500 hours and the best game in the universe by your logic
>You're looking for reasons to not have this discussion for obvious reasons
you're failing to debate on a logical basis and choosing to hide behind poor baits like the low intellect troglodyte you are

I own you in this verbal joust like I own you in-game through superior skill
>>
>>171186852
>something that will be irrelevant in 3 months?
what? Doi you actually play the standard leagues or something? Everything we do now will be "irrelevant" in 3 months.
>>
>>171188007
actually a better analogy would be trying to eat soup without spilling any (not dying in hc) like any remotely intelligent human being is capable of doing

shitcrow babies like you spill their soup all over their lap then with a shit eating grin
>>
>not playing the leagues
>when all the new content is there every time and some doesn't even get added to the main game
when after 1 month or so you have pretty much everything you need so pushing it for 2 more weeks is ok but beyond that, not much to do
How can you NOT play in the leagues? What the fuck are you doing with your char after a few months?
>>
>>171186253
>>171187365
Okay whipped up a quick tree for life-based crit Ice Spear quad-totems. It can be tweaked for a bunch of things, including getting more jewel slots, going Avatar of Fire and using Cold to Fire for 100% fire damage, and other stuff.

poeurl /bbmq
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>>171188293
stop namefagging here, retard
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>>171188041
>who cares if it's artificial?

Someone whose trying to show you your ways are dumb, and a waste of time. Seriously, you ssf hc assholes bring embarrassment to this game.
>>
>>171188418
>says the guy using "Anonymous" as a name
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>>171188041
>not an argument

It is an argument. It's an argument that you can't counter is what you should be saying. You constantly keep trying (and failing) to change the subject btw, so we can move on once you address my point first.
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>>171188424
you've failed to prove how wasting my time with my artificial difficulty league is any more irrelevant than wasting your time in babymode diapershitting league

until you're ready to defend your stance on a logical basis and not appeal to your casual normalfaggotry as if it's somehow an argument of any weight, you're nothing but a broken record, and a pretty retarded one at that
>>
>>171188514
how does spending more time playing a game prove that said time is wasted any more than less time spent playing the game? by your logic, are you ready to admit a 5s game of tic tac toe is more valuable and relevant to anything you do in poe? your argument is idiotic and only a thinly veiled confession of you being a casual
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>>171188520
>you've failed to prove

Says the person consistently avoiding the topic of investment hours.

>>171188635
>how does spending more time playing a game prove that said time is wasted

You're asking me to make your argument for you. Not gonna happen.

Also new thread when
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>>171188840
>Says the person consistently avoiding the topic of investment hours.
not the initial point of contention, my point was that you're wasting your time accomplishing irrelevant goals whether you spend 20 hours or 500 hours, a point you've completely failed to refute in any way, shape or form
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>>171188914
>not the initial point of contention

Again, changing the argument.
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>>171189554
not sure if you're in denial or have the memory of a goldfish but you're not helping your case
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>>171190127
>>171190127
>>171190127
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>>171159690
I think it's actually better
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>>171189765

You're the one that took offense to it without providing a single argument besides having his precious feelings being hurt.
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I'm aware that Imgur.com will stop allowing adult images since 15th of May. I'm taking actions to backup as much data as possible.
Read more on this topic here - https://archived.moe/talk/thread/1694/


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