Bleed Bitch edition
>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn
>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO
>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK
>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr
>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki
>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0
>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609
>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1
>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915
>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/
>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/
>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
Past thread: >>171070914
AD!
Peacekeeper is best girl.
Revive this game.
Someone... anyone..
5th for musclegirls
REMINDER
DONT FUCKING DIE I WANT THE CENTURION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqaWsxXrJSw
nth for removing PKs
Posted in last bread:
As Nobushi, following a parry/gb/hoh what do I do when the enemy isn't retarded enough to get kicked?
>>171108326
The sweep bumps your backward a bit or further into the direction you were thrown beforehand.
>>171108572
cant wake up
>>171108460
The kind of players that'll turtle the entire match with extreme patience?
Quality. fer sure.
>>171108556
Yes.
reposting in the new thread, rip in peacekeeper
Jesus fucking Christ fuck ubisoft and his shitty P2P. His is the 7th time I'm trying to complete ONE skirmish match.
>>171108639
>>171108814
>Hi warriors, we mentioned earlier that fixing connectivity and stability issues is not a single operation, but a mix of many little fixes. [Today's server-side patch] goes into that category, and the team is working hard to improve your experience. We'll keep you updated!
>>171108460
To some part yeah, I don't really know why autists get so raving crazy over MUH 1000000 PLAYER POPULATION REQUIREMENT type shit. This game at most needs 8 people, the usually better modes are 1v1 and 2v2, the game could dip to like 3k people on steam and who knows how much on uplay and it'd still be fine. I regularly play games that have about the same player requirements that only have 30 day averages of just over a thousand people and yet no issues ever finding games. Reactionary faggots everywhere I tell you what.
>>171108901
>>171108971
I hope the general gets better then
>>171108729
Well you can't really call yourself "loyal" to the game if you suck dick when playing it. Also let me be delusional that the future updates for this game will fix the connection issues.
>>171108926
>We'll keep you updated.
Yeah sure, after all that knowledge they shared yesterday, I believe them.
>>171108971
Because the success of a game is measured by its consistent population. If it can't maintain blockbuster numbers, it's shit.
>>171108971
Tortanic syndrome aka retardation
>>171109090
An opinion that dumb sounds like it belongs somewhere, but where.>>>/v/
*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
I play plenty of fighting games with player counts in the dozens at best.
Not even worried.
>>171108971
Because new stream of players is important to game livability. Look at dark souls 1, it still gets stream of new players every few months, everytime it goes on sale. So there are always casual to stomp, someone to co-op with, or gank with.
Sure it doesn't requires 50k plus numbers, but it should atleast have 10k, even that's stretching it considering ubi's QoS on network problems.
>>171108971
True. I'd rather fight the same, experienced users rather than newshits who just genuinely suck at this game.
>>171109232
>metalkid267
>>171109345
But newbies have the potential to git gud over time if given the chance.
>tfw I can guard break counter until the cows come home.
>Don't ever get thrown by anyone because I'm too fast to get hit by that shit.
>Only ones who can get a guard break on me are bots because they cheat and sometimes throw them out really weirdly and unpredictably.
>Every time I'm within distance of an edge suddenly I can't ever counter guard break and get thrown off every time.
THIS
GAME
50 NIGGERS
>>171109281
Everyone loves skull girls but its like at 100 players
>>171109281
This as well. FH is a weird mix of Action/Fighter, and I'll say this, almost everyone who I've fought with and rekt me have experience or are decent at fighters in general. (well those who bothered to reply). Personally I suck at fighters, I have bad reactions times, and I don't think I'll ever reach the top elite players. So the only thing I can do and hope for is new stream of casuals who are maybe equal to my skill level. It's really unfun to play against people are not only better than me, but have 108 gear.
>>171109232
I will Paypal you the $6 or however much it is to change your gamertag to something not terrible.
>>171109140
Guy you're replying to, yeah I thought about saying that in my post as well. There's too many epin vee spergs that are too desperate to shit their pants over another opportunity to spaz out over a game "dying" and whatever. Which is ironic because even TOR limped along long enough to become halfway decent and still retain a decently sizeable playerbse, which I know all that is also just because it's a Star Wars IP but even still.
Daily useless tech: Zone Attack can option select into Parry (or Crushing Counterstrike for Wardens)
Might be useful against feint spammers who will expect your parry attempt to come from the same guard direction as their feint. However, they can block and probably even parry if they know it's coming, so it's not amazingly powerful or anything.
>>171109498
That's the minority of users anon. We're talking about the majority here.
>Le_Rare_Pepe
I guess every generation goes through this.
>people genuinely thinking the game is dying
Every single modern game made has lost a bunch of it's player base after the first month, especially if it's a multiplayer oriented game, with a campaign. A lot, and I do mean a LOT of people buy games only to play through the single-player campaign and then never touch the game again.
A shitty game like APB Reloaded haven't had more than about 1000 players for the past 4 years, and it's still going, and it's still online. Not to mention, Ubisoft faced the same shitty situation in R6S and now it has more active players than at launch.
Just calm down and be patient you ADHD-riddled manchildren. Either they'll basically give it some attention when it's utterly required, or they'll pay more attention to it. Either way player-numbers mean jackshit this early in a game's cycle.
>>171109684
You mean when you input zone attack (light + heavy) with top guard, it performs different actions depending on what the opponent does?
>>171109785
On top of this most normies are poor as fuck because they spend all their wagecuck allowance on their gfs and can't afford a one off payment of $60.
Word of mouth is probably saying "this game is fucking great but wait for the online to be fixed and some balancing".
>>171109785
I just want the 1st DLC
People still looking for the source of this? Pretty sure its only on exhentai and the artist is stapspats.
>>171109565
Is it realy THAT bad? I dont even know what I would change my gt to.
>>171109785
On on one hand Rainbow Six was already a big IP, and sure it sucked at launch, It still had a big name to live upto. On another FH is entirely new IP, Ghost Recons just released with issues of itself as well, and we most likely are getting new proper AC reveal this year which again will have alot of problems.
I dunno man, I'm not really hopeful for a new IP. How is STEEP doing?
>>171109836
That's exactly what an option select is: performing an input and letting the game decide what exactly happens depending on the context. You are accounting for multiple scenarios with a single input.
>>171108556
Incorrect, that would be Nobushi.
>>171109684
>useless
lol
>>171108556
>>171110107
Please, It's Valkyrie.
>>171110054
Whats the fucking point of making new IPs when people rather go back to getting fucked over by the same franchise.
Dont tell me you dont support new IPs? thats the problem with this generation to much sequels
>>171110107
Nobushi is okay but Peacekeeper is better.
Valkyrie is worst girl.
>>171110054
The game is niche enough to live
LEts just hope with get a nice patch then the DLC patch
>>171110246
New IPs work all the time. Look at Splatoon and Overwatch.
>>171110054
Ghost Recon isn't even dabbling in the same demographic. It's a co-op shooter with no PvP at the moment, and it's doing pretty fucking abysmal in terms of sales now beyond the launch. Because people know it's basically just The Division.
I don't understand this whole idea where people look at other things Ubisoft has done and compare outside of R6S. They aren't really comparable, and people don't generally just buy games because it's Ubisoft, or because it's this or that outside of Nintendo.
To clarify what I mean, the comparison between R6S and FH being valid is the competitive aspect of it. However, FH is niche enough to live on. I mean, there's still people playing Dark Souls 1, only to play the PvP of it. We'll see more down the line with Ranked mode being implemented into FH and how well that picks up, but I'd argue it's still way too early to say it's dead or not, or how the future looks. Because it's a new IP, and a fairly new thing in general. Give it time to grow on people. It's the kind of game that'll grow with time when they iron out some kinks.
>>171110246
Nigger, I bought this game. I support it. I fucking love 3PS Action Games. I love DorkSouls, I love DMC. I pre-ordered Nier Automata on PC so that we'll get more Weeb3PS games.
But I cannot say the same fo the masses.
Most people will fucking buy a Existing IP over something new, because that something new can be something shit and not worth their time.
Look at Titanfall. It literally died inbetween Call of Duty and BF even though it itself was a good game. Even though yeah It was EA's fault for releasing it at that time frame.
>>171110038metalman267
>>171110567
Titanfall 2 gets endless praise and awards yet its dead aswell
>>171109785
God I would love to spread her pale buttcheeks, take a whiff of that musty ass/pussy scent and then dive tongue deep into her rose colored anus.
>fighting PK in 1v1
>constantly abuses indicator glitch
>still needed 5 rounds to beat me
This is the reason the game is dying not the meme servers
>>171110648
Well memed my friend ecks dee
>>171110792
>at least I'm not cheating
I agree with your point of FH not being comprable to any other games by Ubi and yeah FH fills a decent Niche. Niche that I support and have fun with, and I also said before DS1 is still active and most likely yeah those people will come here too one day if they had fun with PvP aspect but the game will have to really improve beyond what it currently is right now.
Also I do know alot of people who just get repulsed by "Ubisoft" in title. Which baffles me. Sure they're shit, with greedy practices but atleast they try a bit. Atleast they're not EA/Acti level of shit.
>>171110756
This as well, making a good game isn't the only thing to be done. It needs to be marketed as well. Though I do tend to see R6:S ads often enough, so hopefully Ubi doesn't stops caring in time.
Have bullied Orochi for all this shitwriting.
The fact is that people don't have as much time to dedicate to games these days between all the social distractions and techno-social distractions as well as work/school. So they are gonna always default to their BF1 or their BO3 because those games are easy to pick up and decimate in, regardless of skill level, whereas if you try to button mash in For Honor, you will get parried and spanked over and over again, so they get frustrated spending their 2-3 hours a day for gaming on getting their shit slapped.
Most of the 'gamer' market nowadays would much rather spend their few gaming hours hopping into BF1 with their friends and pubstomping for a while.
>>171111185
but Titanfall 2 gets SOOOO much word of mouth praise and its still fucking dead
>>171110928
>using glitches as the most broken class isn't borderline cheating
Kill yourself faggot
>>171111185
why didn't you ad mortem that parried side?
>>171111185
Ubi just blows, if it wasn't for this games incredibly basic approach at E3 I would not have known nor cared at all about the game whatsoever, Ubi has been a AAA studio for like 15 years and fuck they SUCK.
French Canadian, shitty track record, Uplay, I could go on.
This is the game that made me give them a chance, and I'm having fun at the very least.
>>171110018
NO. I NEED KENSEI BUFFS BECAUSE THE SOURCE IS MY HOSTAGE
>send ticket due to frequent crashes on ps4
>3 days later finally get response
>it's typical troubleshooting for pc
I don't know what I expected...
>>171111367
bitch about ledges next
>>171111474
Not anymore my man.
>>171111304
I don't know if you're being sarcastic here, but I don't know man. I also heard good shit about that game, only reason I never bought/played it is because I have shit for reactions and I don't do well in MP. So I don't bother with shooters much.
>>171111376
I forgot to. I sometimes forget moveset and stuff I can do If I'm having fun or slightly tensed and just do things that are just really safe.
>>171111453
For all their shittiness, atleast they try a bit. AC games sometimes have funny codex. Steep was new IP. They also are publishing South Park game. For Honor is new IP. They tried with Division. Tried again with Wildlands. There was The Crew which was also semi-decent. I'd say most Ubi games for me are not really ground-breaking but not shit either, they're average.
inb4ubishill.
so should i never use side attacks as assassin?
>>171111513
>expecting there to be troubleshooting for an issue everyone is experiencing
>expecting there to be solutions to anything on console besides configuring your router and power cycling the machine
I don't know what you expected either.
On console you either just wait for a patch or bitch until it comes.
What was the update about?
https://exhentai.org/g/638555/0770ced1c5
>>171108429
Nobu-chan is cute! CUTE!
>>171111853
The last AC was actually pretty fun too imo, Syndicate was made by another team than their usual guys and it's kind of hilarious that it felt a lot more complete and competent than usual.
>>171111839
Damn I better read the last thread.
It was like 4:00am when that guy was posting so I couldn't see the conclusion.
Pretty sure everyone I was talking to were britbongs and aussies
>>171111970
just connection fixes
>>171111970
>Match Stability Improvement - v1.03 Live Update 2
>We are aware that some players are experiencing errors that are causing disconnects in multiplayer matches. Our team has identified a bug causing some of the #6000018 and #6000039 errors. We are deploying a fix today at 1PM EST on all platforms to fix this bug and improve match stability. Maintenance should last around 10-15min. Our team will monitor how these changes affect the player experience in addition to investigating other causes of player disconnects.
>Please note that this fix introduces a graphical glitch for the Conqueror weapon during his death animation. This glitch will be fixed in an upcoming update.
reminder that Warden, PK and Valk are the only balanced characters
>>171112043
This should just go in the OP pasta so people can finally know.>inb4 people think it's a troll cause sadpanda
>>171112102
I never did finish it because my HDD died, and I had done almost all the fucking sidequest and did most of the collectibles I could by the time of Chapter 4 and lost all my progress. Yeah though it was decent, honestly though, I liked Rogue most in terms of Gameplay, and . . Unity. Though 1 is still my most "Dream" like AC game by far. I liked how Sidequest gave you patrol routes, escape routes, and shit like that. That's what an AC game should've been about, and improved that formula instead of going , "counter kill, kill streak".
>>171111453
Ubi is awesome. Tons of good IPs that have/had great titles.
>>171112383
>still bitching about valk
>>171112394
On one hand, I want to go to sadpanda rn. On other it'll make everything go "New" since I last visited, and I have autism to fap through everything I haven't fapped since last timeand save anything that I find decent
>>171111474
>>171111839
>kensei never gonna get buffed now
>>171112315
He's not cowering in a corner. I don't know how to feel about this.
Daily reminder to remove Pisskeeper with no sympathy. Preferably with environmental kills.
>wow anyone who bitches about ledges is shit xDDD
>400 hours as Warlord.
Ledges are bullshit, I'm sick of fighting you niggers down to 3HP to have you run to an edge and wait to knock me off with some stupid meme attack.
>>171112315
That should've been LB.
https://youtu.be/vKDm7xO-MJY
Fresh salt. Knights, did you clear this nigga?
>>171110018
>>171111474
The artist isn't stapspats, it's hardboiled yoshiko, however the image(s) do come from a thing of stapspats that was a bunch of artists doing parts, it's a 2hu wrestling thing called Gensoukyou Futanari Chinpo Wrestling Goudoushi GFCW Extreme, the oni girl is unfortunately not a very long part but it's pretty good, it's also on nhentai if you can't be assed to sadpanda. Have fun.
>>171112782
> biting the ledge bait
Certainly not your mistake.
>Every single Conqueror ornament looks terrible.
>Everyone still has them on.
Stop it.
>>171112503
>Ubi is awesome
Maybe at one point.
I still can't forgive them for butchering Assassin's Creed's story and casualizing the gameplay to the point where they've had to take a break on the franchise. Also just the laziness in having recurring bugs happen in multiple games just is so retarded.
For Honor is their only saving grace for me because "Yet Another Open World Shooter 3 -Now with crafting!" does not interest me at all, and that seems to be the only other type of game they can make recently.
>>171112992
Didn't say anything about me following them, Anon. I wait for them to get bored and run over to me so I can hit them back down to 2HP and have them run away to mommyedge again.
>tfw surprising wardens with the zone deflect
Especially useful for when you want to be ready to block up, since Berserkers' GB-timing is wonky when you block a Warden Zone for whatever reason. I just add it to the list of retarded behavior that the Berserker has.
>>171113007
It's unreal how trash they all are. Not a single one looks like it's properly fixed to the helmet, they're all attached by paper thin metal.
>>171113104
we got a badass over here
*unsheathes katana*
>taking longer and longer to find games
dying game
>>171113216
*teleports behind u*
*sips tea*
ppsh... nothin personell, sweaty ;)
>>171112984
>it's also on nhentai
I was looking last night but I swear I couldn't find it. Didn't know it was 2hu though so that could've helped a lot.
Fuckers on nhentai need to get better at tagging.
All the top posts have a million tags when they've barely got 5, and anything specific has like 3 different ways of being tagged that don't show up unless you know which way they described it.
>>171113290
https://u.nya.is/pbtpcd.webm
>>171113172
They were obviously designed for his fedora/park ranger helmets but then Ubisoft for some reason made his default helmet the bucket style one and the ornaments make absolutely no fucking sense.
I'm so fucking done with this servers.
>>171112984
>This kills the kensei buffs
>>171113456
When Ninja is released no one is going to play as Orochi. You do know this, right?
Is it worth having revive speed on gear if you already have the revive speed perk? Whats the difference in speed?
>>171113007
The only helmets that look good with ornaments are the brimmed hats, everything else just looks tacked on.
And the hats get old after a while because literally every Conq wears them.
Sun cult doesn't look too bad on crusader helms though, but that's literally the only one.
>>171110795
not him but that would actually be less cringe
>>171108497
Wait, is his ADMORTENIMMICUS guaranteed somehow?
>>171113387
Yeah it's got a whole shit ton of tags on various stuff, just to be even more helpful,https://nhentai.net/g/99699/
How rare is Conqueror's rare helmet?
I've opened 5000 Geek Cratesâ„¢ to no avail.
No but seriously if I want that helmet is it better to buy the 400s armor pack or stick with 500s PREMIUM pack?
this game fucking sucks, Im not playing it until ubinigger fucking fixes the connection issues, every fucking game Im forcibly disconnected due to error 0006000037 and before that was 0006000018.
its like change the numbers and the average idiot thinks its something totally different.
Do some armor/weapon appearance options have way lower drop rates than others? Aside from the 'legendary' weapons, I mean. I've been trying to get the Iseldis helmet for 3 rep levels now, gotten literally every armor piece for the class except for it.
>>171113845
which helm?
>>171113931
The only other helmet he has that isn't a fedora helmet.
>>171113796
when he parries a light attack
>>171113818
Oh shit I did see this, didn't realize that was it.
You're a saint anon, too bad it looks like the source has never been translated from moon runes.
>>171113770
Hm, alright I might change my name later.
>>171114000
If you're talking shit about kettle helms...
>>171113561
>>171113796
All Light Parries, To Top Heavy is guaranteed. Reminder PK Sidestep are heavies.
Okay, /fhg/, I've suddenly stopped having fun in this game. Just can't even make myself to play it. Wat do?
>>171114142
I just checked and " Peep Beep Meme Creep" isn't taken
>>171114000
this one? :^)
>>171114142
Don't do it. Metalkid sounds better
>>171114169
Nah I like the kettle helms but they're all pretty samey and hard to differentiate from a distance.
>>171114292
Yus. What Rep are you? I'm 5 and no luck yet.
>>171114216
Pick up a new character and meme on kiddies with him
>>171114410
rep 6 just buying crates to make him look good
>>171113456
>The collective spirit of a thousand orochi mains.
>>171114319
Oh im deffinetly not changing it to metalman267
>>171114282
This on the otherhand is my kind of autism
>>171114216
Be a Peacekeeper shitter for a bit until you get the spark back.
>>171114597
Autism makes everything more fun
>>171112085
Post more Nobushi.
STIBBITY STAB 60 DAMAGE
Is there anything worse than a Nobushi?
a little special, a little subdued
what can the law do for you
>>171114861
tfw all lb ornaments look cool and all conqs look like hot shit
>>171108497
Is it so impressive that a Lawbringer hits someone that we need a webm of it?
>>171114498
>each Samurai is the equivalent of 10 soldiers from the enemy
>An Orochi is the equivalent of 100
>1000 Orochi spirits inside one body is equal to 100,000 soldiers
Someone can probably do the math on the powerlevel of this Orochi.
Probably higher still because of the influx law of ninjas, strength>numbers, and the anime determination of speed>all
>>171113463
They're called kettle helms, mate.
What's the deal with counter guard breaks?
There are times when you can't do them at all, but the game doesn't really inform you of this.
What can I do to avoid being edgelorded?
>>171108901
kek!
When are we going to get joke gear and fanservice? That's what the game needs most.
>>171114597
How about Ferrous Father? Iron Lord? :^)
>>171114498
>>171114995
His powerlevel is way beyond whatever you guys can ever think of.
>>171114995
I wonder if there's a stat for how long orochi's ran total since launch, as in the cumulative for every single player's run time on orochi.
>>171109038
>look at me beat a Rep 0 PK
Take it where you can I guess
>>171115000
>Being a helmet nigger
lol it's actually a great helm if you want to be a technical faggot about it
>>171115004
>What can I do to avoid being edgelorded?
Light attack them.
GBs will not work no matter what. Just be ready to counter it after the chain ends.
>>171115086
When the game is on its dying breath to try to attract the waifu crowd. Right now they're trying to keep the game at least appearing realistic to anyone who isn't a historyfag.
If your only exposure to medieval combat was shows like GoT or games like Assassins Creed you'd think this game was absolutely authentic.
That's what Ubi is trying to keep up the appearance of.
>>171110764
Bruh.... Chill out
>>171115175
Purely and simply outplayed
>>171115175
>able to bend time and space
Oh fuck. This guy is at least Dr.Strange level.
>>171115180
He's at least run to the moon and back, right? There's no way that hasn't happened yet.
>fix deployed
>now game crashes twice as much
>>171115004
Don't dodge near edges.
Don't get parried near edges.
GUYS IM GETTING BETTER AT KENSEI WEEEEEE
>>171115898
>This guy is at least Dr.Strange level.
Strange doesn't uses this much Melee though. So clearly this is a malfunctioning doombot.
>>171115973
Haven't you gotten the clue yet anon? The bug is you playing the game.
>>171115898
>Oh fuck. This guy is at least Dr.Strange level.I really didn't understand what time and space manipulation had to do with wrapping buildings and such around.
ok guys how the fuck do i get that fucking owl emblem ?!?!?
>>171116592It was actually more of casting a spell that sent all sorcerors to a mirror dimensions where they could freely bend space (not time). Most Sorcerors in MCU are secretive bunch and would rather not have world know there are always magical threats going around
>>171114915
>all the LB ornaments
>even the tacked on skull and hydra ones
>even the giant chicken that sits on his head
>every other ornament is just a variation of a mohawk
uwot
>>171115225
no, greathelms are the bucket helms the warden can get and conq starts with you mouthbreather
>>171116592
>I don't understand what time and space manipulation had to do with wrapping buildings and such around
Time and Space are intrinsically linked through the fabric of spacetime.
It's the basis of general relativity, and why things like light can only move at the speed of light b/c it's massless and why gravity causes time to happen at different rates relative to supermassive objects.
If someone can warp spacetime they are basically a god.
>>171109785
>people
It's literally one /v/ shitposter that hates ubisoft
he used to spam the same shit in rainbow six siege threads and general
>still haven't recovered after last nights duels.
I just want to get better. Even If its Lawbringer.
>>171109964
But NEETS are the poor ones
>>171115175
>King Crimson
>>171116746
Observables in the Knights campaign
>>171117272
No that's >>171114205
>>171117186
NEETs save up their allowance from doing chores and only make the one big purchase because they don't pay for bills.
They're all sitting on a treasure trove specifically set aside for vidya purchases.
>>171117057
>Dark souls III.jpg
As a lawbringer, am I in the wrong if I quit to main menu at the start of a 1v1 duel against pk, warlord or conq?
Not worth the fucking headache to go against them and inevitably lose due to LB's shortcomings, but I feel like I might look like a sore loser.
What do?
>>171114216
This meme amuses me. Is Conq the only guy that does not want to plow PK?
She gets it from everyone else but not Conq and that drives her wild.
>>171117793
Suck it up. If you don't learn the matchup you'll never get better. You can't just keep running away from your problems.
And on the flip side, if you want LB to ever get his shortcomings addressed, you need to eat the loss so Ubi can see his winrates are so shit.
>>171117793
If you gonna choose a shit class and know it, then deal with it.
>>171113913
Please respond, I really wanna finish my outfit
>>171118101
Too bad it's not the end of the round otherwise Knights would win.
Name a shittiest gamemode than elimination
>>171118189
yea some epics feel more rare than others, it took me quite a while to get an epic sword in its entirety, much longer than to get the actual 'unique' stuff. However, once your rep gets to like 5+ you just get purps almost all the time.
>>171118249
Every single game mode that is not elimination.
>>171118249
Skirmish
>>171117793
They might be unbalanced now, but if you keep quitting matches with them in it how are you going to know how to fight them when they ARE balanced?
>>171117793
As a conq main, I wouldn't mind. LB vs Conq is such a shitty matchup.
>>171118016
There is no getting better against a turtling conq and warlord who spam charge into guarantees and abuse indicator bugs and certainly not against a pk. I'm a rep 12 lawbringer and I've stopped fucking trying anymore, shit is pure cancer.
However ubi seeing a shit LB winrate might just be reason enough for me to endure it.
>>171113913
>>171118189
Luck streaks are a fickle mistress.
As someone who used to play cardgames I would know.
>>171118249
>shittiest gamemode than
Also elimination is kind of fun, the other two 4v4s are abysmal
>>171117793
Choose a different hero.
At least i stick through it and try to improve. I'll still bitch about it though. I got beaten by a non rep lawbringer last night for example.
Though im at my limit.
>>171117010
I have no clue what you just said, but it sounds smart so I'll assume you know what you're talking about.
Why do people leave?
it was not even a stomp, it was 1-1 for fuck sake
Brawl > Duel > Dominion > Elimination >> Skirmish
>>171117793
there's nothing stopping you from winning but your own attitude.
Why am i tilting when i watch anyone of "competitive" streamers on twitch?
Most of the time im jealous and angry at myself because i dont have so nice looking top-tier 99% winrate stats and dont play so well as they do.
What the hell is wrong with me?
>>171117502
Sure kid
Can someone spoonfeed me that VERSATILE combo that involves a shove then flipping over his head? Never really figured out what every step was
>>171118456
Here have something much simpler.
Magic.
These are all sorcerers.
>>171114205
>>171118249
Skirmish because it's the exact same fucking thing but with no rounds to break up the team deathballs and it takes FOREVER
>>171114216
>LK comic p12
So where's the rest?
>>171118615
>>171118525
But most of those streamers aren't even very good. Like, iSkys is considered a very good Warden but if he is forced out of his Vortex spamming he has no fucking clue what to do.
>>171117793
Because quitting because you have an unfavorable matchup makes you a gigantic faggot. Either pick someone else, suck it up or fuck off
>>171118302
I'm at rep 6, lost count of how many crates I've gone through, and have literally every other armor piece other than this hat. I've also never seen any other PKs with this hat, even ones with higher rep than me, to the point that if the images weren't available online I'd suspect it just wasn't obtainable. I've also already gotten the unique sword blade and hilt, which I expected to take ages, but instead I got them at rep 3 but still have not gotten this hat
>>171118381
I still play card games, and this is a level of anti-luck even I haven't experienced before. Like yeah, there's luck of the draw and all that, but this is getting insane. I'm this close to just settling for the Pandora helm, since at the rate things are going I'm never going to buy anything with steel other than PK armor crates if this keeps up much longer
>>171118315
I do know how to fight them, but only when they are actually throwing regular attacks. It's just turtling and charge into guaranteed with no way of punishing them for it because they can tech everything a law throws at them if I dodge.
I just hope that buff comes soon, I really don't like running away from problems but I can't in all honesty defeat these types of heroes as a law.
>>171118496
I agree, but i'd also argue talent.
>want to learn kensei
>cant play anything but law or conq anymore
I wish I wasn't so shit at this game
>>171118525
autism
>>171118456
>I have no clue what you just said
Don't worry, it's literally Einstein's Theory of General Relativity.
Shit is so high level I barely understand half the shit they're talking about let alone the math behind it.
If you're interested in the subject though PBS Spacetime on Youtube is pretty comprehensive about the subject and it's where I got most of the information I told you about.
>>171119007
If you can block and parry you can play the entire roster
The learning curve for a new character is like 2 games
>>171118525
When I watched a tournament of the so-called top players of For Honor(tm) I was kinda shocked at how shit they really are.
>>171119115
I can parry and tech everything I just don't have the convictions to learn what his punish options are after confirming them
I wish they would either:
>removes stats
>Make stats seperate from armor somehow
>give me more inventory space
I heard that they are going to re-balance gear, so they might even make the shitty stats useful.
>>171119007
>play warden after LB
>dont even need the shoulder
>INCUMBRE intensifiesyour shite m8
>>171119260
Almost everyone's are the same
light parry > heavy
heavy parry > light
parry > gb into usually side heavy or wall throw > to heavy
>>171119348
Honestly if ranked has stats turned off, I'm never queueing for normal for a 4v4 again. Which jesus christ it better have them off, even ribbit will throw a massive fucking shitfit if either the stats aren't fixed in time or they're not flat out turned off.
>>171118478
ok, pls stop
>>171117852
Conq just wants to duel, man.
Conq is a former bad boy who knows that sticking your dick in crazy ain't adviseable.
>>171114465
>>171114632
Fine, I will try Peacekeeper.
>>171117852
Conq just isn't into this "lewd" stuff.
>>171118626
Sorry, I don't have the rest of it. But it's from doujinshi that meme drawfag drew.
>>171118768
>>171119146
Im talking mostly about guys like petemoo or extheleonx, but yeah, anyway, if they are not "that" so good, why do they have all of that shit like 88% winrates, top 1% ranking etc?
>>171108556
Mercy go home, can't adventure like momiji!
>>171119851
This reminds me: did that lewdkeeper porn image with the anons ever get finished?
>>171119851
Please tell me somebody has all of this in an imgur dump or some shit.
>>171119695
>>171118478
Its like you dont know about AN ERROR WAS OCCURED 099810313707## LMAO DUDExDDD
?
>>171119882
Because their winrates are inflated by the amount of times they duel people, test stuff out, so on, so forth. Petemoo's winrate isn't exactly inflated as much as him having zero shame in doing little but spamming headbutts and ramming people off maps, just doing general Warlord things.
Not saying it's not a viable tactic, but he outright just tries to go for it every time which is a bit sad to see.
Salt farming is the only reason to keep playing this game.
>>171118478
There is no penalty for quitting so shitters leave duels when they've lost twice
>>171120068Give it a little bit longer.
>>171120240
>Janitor Unblockable
Oh geez thats good
>>171120068
where has Lewdkeeper been
>>171120145
literally never happened in the past week
>>171120367
They hang around on the Knight Discord and share smut on Tumblr
>>171120182
>playing peacekeeper
>le salt xDD
>le shitter leavers
Congratulations, I guess
>dueling conqueror
>he's pretty passive at first till I start hitting him with lawpokes
>eventually he just goes full shield bash spam
>bashes me into lights, over and over
>can barely ever dodge in time because law is a slow fat fuck
>if i dodge too soon it still fucking clips me sometimes
>ask him why
>"im bad"
>tell him his skill is just going to stagnate and he'll never actually be good if he just keeps playing the game like this
>tell him they are also planning to nerf conq
>"ik"
Some people man. I mean I like Conqueror and I like his aesthetic design, but his moveset is garbage and he has hardly any offensive capabilities outside that cheese bash. I get it. But how is that gratifying? Just spamming it over and over in every duel, every fight? Might as well be playing a different game from everybody else
>>171119695
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
>>171120240
I see nip
>>171118496
And peacekeepers.
>>171108429
doesnt even look asian
>>171108616
I don't give a shit about the centurion or the ninja. When are we going to get those sweet skeleton warriors?
>>171120467
Sounds like a good time.
>>171120954
Well, throwing people off as the absolute first thing you do is generally something people will quit over. You should know this by now.
>>171120687
I'm a Conk main and I understand you completely but you also have to understand that shield bash is his ONLY offensive tool apart from a lucky crush counter. For Honors meta is dominated by passive play and sometimes the only way to beat someone is to shield bash his ass into the corner because otherwise he will block/parry/dodge everything else you try throwing at him. I don't like to spam it either but I'm not just gonna stand there and let my opponent parry his ass to a win.
>>171121291
>run right down by the ledge
>don't counter the GB
>which is literally the easiest thing to do
Nah, if you get ledged, you deserve it. I ledge people every opportunity I get, especially PKs and wardens.
>>171117384
which one?
>its another episode of your rep 10 team mate can't beat up a bot
>>171121505
Yeah, I mean, I understand that's your mentality. Most people hate getting ledged, thus they alt-f4 instead because they don't want to have to think about getting ledged all fight long.
I don't agree with what they do, just pointing it out. If you want to keep people playing, hide your power level.
>>171121227Who do you think is under Centurion's mask?
>>171120467
Ashes to ashes, cancer to cancer
>>171120182
I just alt+f4 on PKs because they're all the same
The best possible outcome is they're some complete retard who just throws out wild heavies and never blocks or parries
>>171115123
Iron Imam
It took me almost 9 reps on Kensei and 5 on Nobu to realize how shit Ken really is. Whenever I play against a warden, pk, conq, warlord, even nobushi sometimes, I have to be super collected, parrying every light and dodging everything that needs to be dodged. Against ken though, you just put your guard into top stance and that's it. He can't hurt you. What a fucking shame really.
>>171122137
yeah, you're right
but he looks stylish as fuck, no?
>>171121505
>don't counter the GB
Lol, you parried him, dude, GB is untechable after a parry. I dont think that he would leave a match if you just followed your GB with heavy.
>>171121867
How long do you think they can keep this up?
>>171122405
So does LB. I think I'm sensing a pattern here.
holy fuk can you kill more than one by doing this?
The narrator sounds like some guy. Wish he had a more distinctive voice.
is there a gallery somewhere with all the high level raider gear?
>>171122769
yahuh
>>171120467
can i get an invite, im a filthy weeb but i love me some lewdkeeper
>>171122405
I love doing that to people who don't know how to press E.
You'd think panic pressing feint would be normal at this point, since taking a light attack's worth of damage is usually better than being parried.
>>171123026
for me i both love-hate it, because it's hard to tell if someone is going to fall for it or not
to play kensei you literally just guess half the time, and i personally fucking hate thatunless you sit there and do nothing and just parry shit, which i also hate
i enjoy mindgames to some degree, but kensei is ENTIRELY reliant on them, and they're very easy to react to when you've got the hang of it
>>171122904
http://alfalis.de/For_Fashion/#
There might be a better Raider gallery somewhere but this should be good enough
>>171122671
They already have your money it doesn't matter
>>171123295
this will do, thanks
>>171123230
Yeah kensei is literally nothing but mindgames, but the upside of that is you can FEEL their frustration at getting caught out and chunked hard.
Kensei may be but mindgames but he can punish fairly well most of the time.
>kensei cant get the ornament the coverart kensei has
fucking why
>>171122857
You only got one there, bruv.
>>171122857
FUCKING PKs I ALT-F4 ON EVERY LAST ONE OF YOU REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
>>171123460
i just wish that kensei had SOME tool to crack someone open, if i vs a warlord there's nothing i can do unless /he/ fucks up, and i think that's stupid
to be forced to turtle against a character that is meant to be a turtle is so retarded
>>171123565
If you keep quitting on them you'll never learn how to fight them.
>>171123613
Why do some vanish instantly while others cause that synch menu to come up? Do some people unplug their internet while others alt-f4?
(Even more interesting this weeb causes his whole team of roaches to quit)
>>171123680
>you will never learn how to fight a class that can attack faster than you can switch your stance!
Yeah I know how to fight them, it's called quit to world map
>>171122957
https://discord.gg/UpvYD
>>171121608
All. It'd help to do the campaign in realistic too
>>171123613
I got creamed once by a Kensei 1/4th my rep, and what he usually did was feint side into top light.
Its not the best but it kinda works, and once you get your foot in the door of their defenses they start panicking and try to figure out what you do, and thats when you can do real damage.
Or be me and just die to nothing but light attacks like a chump because I keep trying to fucking predict a guy who went full fakeout style.
>>171123905
Oh you're a LB or raider main complaining about everything that can do more than your underpowered class like an entitled bitch, got it.
>>171118562
Pls respond
>>171123680
>learn how to fight a PK
Have perfect reaction times, if you don't, you're fucked. Everything PK does is safe, you HAVE to parry her to open her up but she also is light ing fast on every attack.
>playing elimination
>kill someone
>they suddenly come back to life and are mid-guard break
ok
2 determines next character I learn
Can we get Daubeny's second's paint-pattern that he has on his helmet?
>>171124506PK :^)
>>171124506
Roach
>>171124506
PK
>>171123992
>Oh you're a LB or raider main complaining about everything that can do more than your underpowered class like an entitled bitch, got it.
>underpowered class
>entitled
PK, warlord, or warden?
>>171124632
Fuck you she's already rep 3 and it was boring, go away
>>171124506
Raider.
>>171124772
Level her to Rep 6, you know you just afk farmed it anyway
>>171124506___PK____
>>171123992
Oh nooo my master plan has been foiled!
kys fag
>>171124506
berserker
good luck
>>171124383
The only thing I think you can confirm off of a flip is a top light.
>>171124451
Hey complain all you want man, but the reality is the more you fight a certain hero the better you get at fighting them.
That change can be from a 0% winrate to a 10% winrate, but it can still be a change.
And then when they're finally balanced you'll be better than average fighting them because you know most of their tricks.
Thats the way I see it anyway.
You never get anywhere in life only doing the things you already know how to do.
>>171124749
None of those actually, just tired of people crying like a two year old who got a wrong flavor cake on their birthday.
PK is overpowered yes, but whining like a bitch and alt-f4ing isn't going to make you better at fighting them.
But hey if you just want to shriek and exit every time you see something you can't fight yet be my guest, I can't tell you what to do.
>>171124625
That's Cross' second.
>>171125116
Found the warden.
>>171124625
D A U B E N Y
>>171125389
Holy shit senpai nice roll
Nice to see fire emblem fags are here too
>>171124632
RAIDER. LEGENDARY.
>>171125116
No no, you don't understand, I can already beat PK by parrying like a madman. But I can't actually do anything but parry and get hits off of that parry confirm, I can't attack at all or use any of my class features because her attacks can interrupt them all. This isn't a fight I ever want to get into.
Did they remove maps from Dominion mode?
I haven't seen High Castle in forever
Also
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eTSS8OUa2o
>>171124738
>Idiotsbeingretarded.webm
>>171125684
they've had 2 maps off the dominion playlist for a week or so
>>171124625
No, but you can get close. There's a paint job that's just like that, without the skull. Pair it with the skull engraving and it should look about the same, just with the skull covering the rest of the helmet as well.
>>171125638
How would you nerf them/buff your class without destroying the class and making the turtle meta worse?
>>171125684
>>171125838
>game has barely any content
>lol lets remove maps
>>171126113
The maps were bugged and were tanking peoples framerates into the 20s and lower.
>try to parry zerker lights
>forget you're not supposed to be able parry them
>die to infinite chain
Fug.
>>171125272
Oh fuck, my bad lmao
>>171126113
>Maps were causing "instability"
>Remove maps
>P2P causing instability
>Remove matchmaking
Ubisoft
>>171126104
Slow them the fuck down. Make the zoning punishable on block and 12 frames like every other "good" zoning in the game, give them the same second light speed as Valk so PKs using the whiff followup don't basically get a mixup just from how fast their second light is.
>1v1ing a Shugoki
>He goes for a critical health, undodgeable, instakill hug
>Picks me up over his head
>Tenses his arms
>Then drops me back down as he dies from bleed damage
>>171126383
Nigga if you're getting hit by the second light after seeing them go for a whiff then that's your fuck up. Besides the zone which I agree with what else do you mean about slowing them down?
>>171126680
What's the point of this webm?
tfw you play a character whose lights arent' fast enough to hit a warden out of his shoulder charge
>>171126631
>if you are getting hit by the second light after the whiff
It's the speed of warden's zoning and can come from all three directions. Do you suggest I backdash and just disengage, because parrying that shit so I can actually punish her is a bastard.
That's about all PK needs to stop her from being absurdly overpowered, but removing the ability to backdash when out of stamina would fix the situation too.
>>171125684
You can go to them in custom they're just out of rotation because
>>171124506
Lawbringer
>duel vs orochi
>guard top by default because my stance doesn't switch fast enough to react to it
>half of his top lights go right through my guard
FUCKING BUGS AND THIS FUCKING GAME WHY DID I BUY THIS PEACE OF SHIT THIS IS THE LAST TIME /V/ HAS MEMED ME INTO BUYING ANYTHING FROM JEWISOFT FUUUUCK
>>171126684
increase wardens zone to 600ms. Only assassins should have sub 500ms zones
>>171127365
no one should have a sub500 zone
>>171126767
It shows how Shug is the king of the Gank Squad - him and LB are great for it
>>171126684
This isn't even accurate. Go by frames, warden top light is 15 and his zoning is 12. PK zoning is 9. Double these numbers for 60fps.
>>171126684
>how to fix aoe attacks
>fix flicker bug
Thats it. Even 400 ms wont be a problem
>>171126853
You need to space properly. You don't ever try to parry the second light. If the light was slowed down then PKs would be fucked and they'd have to resort to just spamming the first light in the chain. It wouldn't really solve the issue. You only ever try to parry the first light in the chain. You get a new chance to parry after every second light attack.
>>171127623
>This isn't even accurate.
>exact timings aren't accurate
>Go by frames
(30fps): 100ms = 3frames
(60fps): 100ms = 6frames
>>171127585
There's no argument there. They are the undisputed kings of 4v4.
>>171127673
The flicker bug is easily the worst offender of anything in this game.
>>171125506
DAU
BE
NY
SHOW
YOUR
SELF
>>171127673
>what is kara-cancel
its not going anywhere.
>>171127680
>don't even try to punish the second light, don't try to punish anything, just wait for her to hit you with the zoning then attempt to parry a 15 frame light consistently instead
This is not a solution, it's saying "Just let it happen".
What is they only very rarely try to connect first lights? What then? I'll tell you what then, you get fucked because peacekeeper is broken.
>>171126680
>>171127585
tfw I'm the shugoki
>>171127320
I FUCKING HATE THIS TOO MORE THAN PROBABLY ANYTHING IN THE FUCKING GAME BESIDES REVENGE GEAR
And it's not just orochis, this fucking happens with wardens, berserkers, kenseis, valkyries, and probably other shit that I haven't noticed.
>>171127765
Then PK zoning would be 300 not 400, and warden zoning would be 400, not 500.
>>171127997
it's called lag, 100% your fault
fix your shitty internet
>>171127885
Ok how about this one:
>you cant use aoe in guard mode
>>171128053
500ms
6(60fps)*5(500ms)=30(frames)
>>171127927
gg hombre those games were hilarious, most coordinated combos ive even seen lmao
>>171128318
nothing would change
>>171128365
That's true for warden top light and PK first light, not their zonings. The chart is inaccurate, at the very least on those measurements. PK zone is 18, warden is 24.
>>171128318
Most zones are wide enough that you don't need to stay locked to begin with
>>171128569
stop using inaccurate console measurements as absolutes.
Post your raider
>>171128647
Those are PC measurements you numpty. The chart is WRONG.
>Dominion contracts
Can't even duel without revenge popping
Its not even a problem in other 4v4 modes since its always a 4v4 and in actual 1vX situations revenge is useless vs decent player's unless your PK/nobushi. Literally just spam gb and cc moves and revenge is a joke, but revenge makes duels a joke.
>>171128441
A proper Gank can go like Pic Related
A poor one goes like
https://youtu.be/NBIjkAKgVb4?t=47
(GANK STARTS AT 47 SECONDS)
Im done with dueling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gbbsMqj0qY
>>171128759
sure.
>>171128208
>lag
>even though my guard was there the whole time, and i didn't just switch it
Fuck off, autist
>>171128829
Next time make a webmand don't post it
>>171128953
>don't measure the animations use an obviously hideously inaccurate stop timer
>>171129108
Why does it matter?
>>171129532
A: You waste most of the video with boring standing around
B: all the action could fit in a WEBM
C: Someone's already made that webm
>>171129197
I'm sorry I take the exact frame data as more reliable than that.
>>171109506
This. Why does this happen.
>>171129625
and where, if i may ask, did you get this so called "exact" data exactly?
>>171129729
Up your ass you image shitposting cunt.
>>171126684
that chart is wrong tho
for warden
zone is 24f - 400ms
while top light is 30f - 500ms
pk
light is 30f - 500ms
zone is 18f - 300ms
how are they both the same in the chart
i hope they nerf PK soon so i can keep playing her without people getting butthurt all the time, i just wanna have fun man
>>171129878
whats fun about PK? all you do is spam r1
>>171124506
zerker
have fun lool
>>171129729
Just accept your shit chart is wrong mate. You got it MOSTLY right, at least. I think. Shugga might have 500 frame lights.
I'm a warden main, rep 13 global but rep 10 on warden, and until now I've been defending the vortex since I thought it was a guessing game for both parties, with only a small chance (33%, excluding the roll away) for it to result in the vortexed party being hit for another round. But after fighting with a warden I've befriended recently, I asked if he canceled his shoulders on reaction after seeing so many of his shoulders land, and to my surprise, he did. Assuming he's not lying, that's OP as fuck. If you can turn the shoulder into whatever option you need. It's not a dice roll, the game's rigged. It's only balanced if you have to make a read, that would be the very definition of a mixup.
You cannot cancel the shoulder whenever you want, but the window is still to wide. As it is right now, warden is way too good if you have above average reaction time and he's actually not that broken if you don't. So to tone him down to that level they should make it so you absolutely have to input whatever option you're going to use at the start of the shoulder charge, not whenever you wish. Mixups are good, but the shoulder charge isn't a real mixup in it's current state.
I'd like to hear the opinion of fellow wardens. I know everyone likes to complain about the shoulder charge, but they mostly have 0 knowledge of what it's like to play warden. They just draw conclusions from facing them.
Is the population really that low? I'm on Xbone haven't noticed any problems?
>>171129792
>image shitposting cunt.
>>171129795
do you realise that the "frame data" comes from people playing their video recordings frame by frame
right?
there is no proper frame data from the actual game files
>>171114861
i love the havel helm
>>171130014
who the fuck uses a stopwatch to calculate attack data? instead of individual frames?
that's fucking retarded
it's not like someone competent has done the frame data and it's not exactly hard to translate that to ms
>>171130153
Its fucking EZ to counter on PK
>>171130153
The onl time I can cencel into guardbreak on reaction is if they dodge REALLY early.
>Skirmish AI order
>Everyone at 0 deaths
>Accidentallly push bot against teammate and make them fall and die
Whoops hehe...it was only a nobushi anyway
>>171130014
>500 frame lights
>>171130206
>lock frames
>record it
>play it frame by frame
???
>>171129619
So what?
>>171130281
Everything minus warlord on PK is easy that's not an argument.
>>171130385
>lock frames
>cant lock frames
whoops
i hope they add some more neat looking armors soon, i'm tired of all the rags the non plate wearing characters get
>>171130517
are you pretending to be retarded?
>>171130523
I like the Nobushi's longcoat.
>>171130626
are you?
>>171130206
But if they are recording the game at equivalent FPS, the frame data is as exact as it can get.
Loving this new "connectivity" meme.
My favourite part was getting booted the menu mid-game or during matchmaking for an hour straight.
Soicy.
>>171126815
so Raider, Conq or Shugoki?
>>171127365
If you do that, remove the punish on block.
There are two ways to make moves balanced :
Make the move fast but punishable
Make the move slow but unpunishable
When you have slow but punishable moves you get garbage like law's long arm, nobushi's kick or every single non-assassin heavy in the game.
>>171130349
They should tighten the hitboxes on all charges because the window to dodge them without being pushed is extremely small.
>>171130790
>tfw those are my 3 mains
>>171127814
>They are the undisputed kings of 4v4.
Tho Im not disagreeing, people tend to overlook how slow of a fucker shug is and his low speed can occasionaly loose you a close match.
>>171130159
it's PC thing
So does anyone play with an Elite controller?
I'm thinking of picking one up but I wasn't sure if it was worth the price.
The swappable parts and button mapping look sweet though.
Also metal looks like it'll last a lot longer than plastic.
>>171127927
Is this whats in store for me if I keep lvling my shug?
>shield bash peacekeeper into the wall
>she recovers fast enough she can fucking parry my followup heavy
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>171131370
dash bash does not wall stun
you cant a heavy after non heavy bash
or was it even after a heavy bash you don't get a guaranteed heavy
don't remember
also
>conq complaining about recovery times
>>171131178
Get a scuff instead
>>171130790
Shugoki's is fast enough, at least past the first shoulder charge. pretty good to put a warden on the back foot with headbutt to exhaust
>>171131225
Here's my alt
>>171129994
"all you do is spam R1"
PK only has zone cancel, R1 and R2 though, and R2 is only safe on knockdown
we have no shoulder charge, shieldbash or headbutt to mix it up with, no hit confirm off of lights either
furthermore the R1 can only be chained 2 times before you have to reset it, follow with a heavy or heavy feint, or a zone cancel
more and more people are learning to parry R1's as well, or punish whiff fishing, more and more people are learning to keep their guard right side to foil zone cancel, some people even predict the parry
the better people become in FH, the weaker PK gets.
that's just duels and brawls though, in 4v4 PK is straight up OP because of retarded feat combos like Sharpened Blade and Fear Itself, along with no internal cooldown on zone cancel
R1 spamming PK's might work on console, but PC players are either better or have an easier time parrying
>>171131569
>I cant dodge for shit therefore conq is op
How the fuck am I supposed to deal with orochis as LB
I swear to fuck every single one of them just aces me. Even PKs aren't that bad since most of them are shitters.
>>171131839
R1 spamming PKs have won in tournaments. Her spam is good enough to fuck up the best players in the community.
>>171131178
i use an elite, it's pretty nice, i use only two of the four buttons on the back, one for feint and one for dodge, GB is on R3, i'm very happy with it
don't get a scuff, they break down too fastbiggest downside of xb elite is that you have to upgrade to Win 10 to use the accessories app where all the fine tuning is
>>171131932
t. actual shitter
stop replying if you have no idea what are you talking about
>>171131178
>So does anyone play with an Elite controller?
I do. Nice controller. You feel right home with it if you're used to the normal XBO controller, though it feels more durable and heavier in your hands. It's objectively better than the normal controller, though a bit steep price. Also no official key mapping programs unless you have Win10. I'd be against you getting it if you have Win7 or 8.
For Honor is the only game I use the paddles for. It's vastly improved my GB teching in comparison to trying to move thumb to X whenever needed. I need to get that same reaction to dodges too. Also using aggressive response for right stick to make guard direction changes a bit faster.
>Playing law against anyone who just dodges and can CGB 100%
>>171132287
I'm sorry Dan
>>171132040
who and what tournament?
saying a PK is just R1 spamming might be true, it might also be the same as some faggot saying that people doing BJJ are just lying on the floor and hugging each other
>>171132116
t. peacekeeper main
I'm still waiting for an actual argument
>>171132709
i am tired of replying the same thing in every thread
educate yourself
and no, i don't main pk
>>171132491
>>171132040
as far as i know PK has two tournament wins so far
first one was Keehu, second one was some dude who played Warden up to finals, then picked PK to have a chance against the Warlord
Does Noobushi have some feat that prevents her from falling over or something? I pushed, parried and shoved that slut in revenge mode but she would not fall.
>>171129795
>for warden
>zone is 24f - 400ms
>while top light is 30f - 500ms
1\10 made me launch vegas
>>171110064
or you do two different inputs and if the first one is successful the second wont go through
ex. you do a jumping heavy attack in a normal fighting game, right after that input you input a dp or something. if you hit the guy and he gets hit or blocks it, you dont do the dp since you are in an animation. if they backdash or do their own reversal your dp will come out since your heavy never hit the person and the animation ended (jumping attacks end as soon as you hit the ground)
>1v1 lawbringer vs zerker
>he demolishes me 1st round
>i beat him next 3
>"Great fighting with you! Good game!"
>wtf
>nice players?
>say thanks, say something about him destroying me the first round
>"Thanks! You learned me after that :)"
>warmth spreads throughout my body
>smile and nod to self
>play him again, he wins 3-2
>"GG! I finished my order, so I'm going to leave. Good luck!"
>leaves
>mfw i realize i will never encounter someone like him again
>>171132051
>scufs break down too fast
what
>>171133659
Sadness
>>171133659
was he around rep 10? fought this really nice beserker earlier today for 4-5 matches. was really nice, wish it happened more
>started playing PK
>spamming light and zone attack
>go 10+/0 in games
wow this is easy coming from lawbringer
>>171133659
>>171133812
>>171133985
zerks tend to be pretty bro
>>171134039
drink deep from the goblet of power
>>171131839
>we have no shoulder charge, shieldbash or headbutt to mix it up with
You don't need anything special when your lights are so fast that almost nobody besides a lucky few can block them properly. Attack speed is the single most important thing in this game. It's why warden, orochi, warlord, PK (etc) zones are so good. The Warlord headbutt is so good because it's so fast. If it was as slow as the warden charge it would be garbage.
Speed is EVERYTHING in a game where there are 3 attack directions unless you have a full block and that's been nerfed now so it's pretty much not a valid point anymore.
>no hit confirm off of lights either
You don't need this either since your second light comes even faster than the first and is pretty much guaranteed. If I'm correct, the second light is 24f @ 60fps. If you adjust for a 10f guard stance change, which is only achievable by a few characters, that leaves you with 14f or 230ms in a best case scenario, without any framerate, monitor, network or input latency. We don't even know if the people who have recorded this have accounted for the minimum 100ms latency that for honor enforces. This is faster than the average human reaction time, and that reaction time was calculated after asking for a very simple response, like a click. This game asks you to choose one of three guard directions. This is the definite proof that the second hit might as well be a confirm against anyone but the very, very best of us.
Now if you have fasts that fast, I wonder why you would need a 18f free, absolutely unpunishable zone. As I've said before, speed is the most valuable aspect of attacks. It's true you can keep your guard right in neutral to block it, but in any other scenario, like after a hit, after a grab or after a whiff, you're giving free damage to the pk by doubling your guard change delay everytime you default to right.
>>171124506
lawbringer
>>171131839
>>171134184
people who parry or block PK lights do it by prediction, not reaction
they literally guess where the next attack is coming from and hope they guessed right
>>171132051
>biggest downside of xb elite is that you have to upgrade to Win 10
Good thing my laptop is a potatoe and can't run anything besides Civ5
>>171132219
Sounds awesome. Kinda sucks that I can't get it in different colours but anything other than black is distracting anyways.
How's the D-Pad? I know you can swap it out but the circular one had me interested.
>>171123951
>join
>theres this furry NEET tranny whos going on about their depression and some guy backing her up
>two guys are just making fun of her/him
this place is great
>>171133659
Should've added him dude.
Nice people are diamonds in the rough.
>>171133457
I think it's a bug because I've seen it happen across a bunch of different classes.
>>171132219
Would you be able to set the paddles to GB and dodge on w7? I don't mind not being able to remap the rest. Perhaps steam can help with that?
>>171134616
>add him
>he reject
The only way if to become a friendly dude yourself in duel
And hope someone will add you
Why are 2/3rds of the characters in the campaign females?
>>171134987
muh progressiveness
>>171108651
Nothing.
If you really NEED to attack for some reason you can try a sidewinder
>>171134563
It's a fantastic trainwreck of a Discord. It's 40K meets Nazis meets degenerates meets a handful of normal people.
>>171134987
I wish the campaign was expanded on.
>>171134393
maybe for console, people parry PK lights on reaction on PC, only the zone cancel is parried on prediction
can love bloom on the battlefield?
because I am falling in love with Nobushi
>>171133985
i believe he was 4
his name was Buttzerker
so i needed to reinstall my operating system after a n update installed drivers wrong and removed my permissions. I re download my shit pretty quick, try to play some for honor. re enable my controller, my controller profile still there. go to play a game and type something in chat as a response to a question. open chat with the "t" key, and then, none of the keys work. If i hit enter, it changes my screen resolution, and nothing i can do lets me close the chat window, short of alt f4ing. someone help me, i tried google and i cant seem to find anything, i just want to be able to have conversations man
>>171135165
invite pls?
>>171135456
https://discord.gg/HGw34
General Chat 1 is where it's at
>>171134747
Well I know that assassins can abuse a bug that prevents them from falling
Don't ever talk to me or peace keeper ever again
>going to the (((discord)))
we're on 4chins and even i wont go to that god forsaken place
>>171134987
The only significant females were Apollyon, Mercy, Runa, Ayu and Momiji.
>>171135926
PK really needs to be fucking nerfed.
>>171135727
Why just assassins?
>>171130153
Warden main here.
What do you expect? The defensive meta is already too strong as it is. It's ubisoft's job to ensure that gameplay favors a balance between defensive and offensive posturing. The strongest characters at the moment are those that have offensive traits as strong as their defensive traits.
>>171135585
ty famalam
>>171136090
That's literally 4/5ths of the cast not counting the raider/warden/orochi because the player can choose the gender of them.
>>171136097
Because of how their guard works, they spam different guard directions or something and that lets them stand
>>171136096
She can get nerf, I will still win with my waifu.
>>171135926
>>171136304
what makes these webm worthy?
>>171136304
No, because after the nerf equalises all your attack speeds you'll just be an inferior valkyrie.
>>171130153
Im a warden main, shoulder spam should take a little bit more stamina. Thats all what they need to do with it.
It will prevent abusable spamming and actual "vortex" and option of not playing guessing game and roll away will be a little better if warden will lose somehow noticable amount of stamina too, not the 1mm of his bar.
Why is navigating through uplay such a bitch xD
Terrible design
>>171136428
Sure thing, I play kensei and raider too and I still win but Okay.
>>171136393
Someone is butt mad because I play Pk kek
>>171136637
>xD
No. You stop that. Right now.
>>171136773
Do you like Pokemon XD? It's one of my favorite games.
Cringe tier:
Warlord
PK
Valk
Bullshit but beatable tier:
Conq
>>171137107
I feel as if warden should be in there with conq
>>171136228
The males we're Holden Cross, Conqbro, Stigandr, that one zerker, and Okuma. That's before the bosses like Gudmundr and Seijuro.
>>171137107
I honestly think Conq is the best character in the game right now.
If you play him perfectly he is literally unpublishable because his framedata is so good and he can just turtle everything.
Lvl3 ConqBot is exhibit A
>>171137107
>I will never adapt and when these characters are nerf I will complain about the new meta.
>>171137308
warlord is way better
>be kensei main
>actually have to learn how to parry, gbc and attack
>decide to try out conq
>can literally shield bash and light the entire game and come out on top
epic
I've seen this posted here before but does anyone have the layers and coordinates?
I tried recreating this by eye but I can't make the butt.
>>171135585
>join
>first thing I see is aforementioned furshit tranny advertising showing xir ass
>>171137410
>be lawman main
>have to learn how to parry and shove and gbc which i suck at
>play pk once for an order
>come out 1000 points higher than everyone else by solely spamming light attack
pk is so fucking broken
>>171136207
weew laddy fights for our freedom
he is your friend
>>171136645
PK gets hate man does this surprise you
>>171136304
>>171135926
The main mistake of those wardens - they are trying to attack too much.
Poor dude trying to get some intense fight and got completely punished for that.
>>171135227
It's clear to see why, Nobushi is a graceful and lovely woman.
>>171137571
>>171137515
this is the furry lmao
>>171136490
You're not actually playing a guessing game if you can react to dodges and attacks as you do the vortex though.
>>171136196
Forcing a dice roll/mindgame would still break the defensive meta but having the possibility to react to the oppenent's answer and always come on top unless they roll away is way too good.
>>171137321
>t. pk/warlord/valk main
So what is the consensus here on people in 1v1 duels who just switch their blocking stance nonstop until you have to make the first move. Is that normal behavior or was this guy I just dueled with think he was being clever? (This same guy quit in the first round, then I happened to match up with him again and won, then received a message from him saying "u trash !)
>>171137596
He was doing pretty good earlier then I adapted to his feints into gb and shoulder bash. We was tied then I got 3 wins over him, one of the best wardens I fought.
>>171137575
Nope, I just like to bait people. That funny too, I play on ps4 and I have no problem parrying Pk lights on good connection.
I'm wondering if I should get to rep 1 with kensei
>>171137863
D E F E N S I V E M E T A
>controller constantly making me drop frames whenever it spergs out and stops working correctly
>starts suddenly dying all the fucking time too
>just get fed up and buy an Xbox 1 controller
>works fine, PC doesnt drop frames
>start suddenly winning a fuck ton
>turns out controller was never actually good at all, and that a new one actually lets me respond to GB, Parries etc at my normal speed
>game suddenly also feels much more fluid and fun now
Im honestly kinda surprised it changed so muvh for me. Im not saying the 360 controller is bad by any means, but if you guys are having either technical issues or just slow responses (I had both), I highly reccomend trying a new controller or just going Mouse and Keyboard, because it really matters a lot in this game.
>>171137805
>Lawbringer main who can't even soft cancel or parry
>>171137619
she truly is a miracle
>>171137321
>I will keep playing characters that are acknowledged as OP fucks and pretend I have any skill whatsoever
>>171137863
PKs do it because they think it makes them good with their epik mixups
some shugokis go from left to right over and over because it looks funny
>>171138320
Amen, brother.
>try to combo people
>more often than not they just stand there and expect a GB cancel
Is this the fabled 6th level yomi?
>>171138191
Not him, but what is "soft canceling"?
>>171137571
Damn he really shouldnt be rocking that hair
Doesnt fit him at all
>>171138329
I guess. Learn how to soft feint, also I win with raider too so now what?
>>171138320
Is she really fun? I was thinking about playing her as my last character i touch till dlc
>>171137496
make this instead, superior butt
>>171138191
You're right about me being a law main, but no, I can parry, and I'll shit on your broken characters all day.
Doesn't mean they're not broken, though.
>>171138521
>being able to cancel shoulder bash to block stunning tap
Disgusting
what the fuck do i do against peacekeepers as lawbringer? i cant parry their light attacks since they're too fast for me, or my guard. memes aside please
>>171138521
will warden be able to cancel his charge into parrying the inevitable incoming light attack? find out in the next episode of dragons balls z
>>171137571
oh no...
who is this?
is this a top for honor player?
???
>>171137878
people just use console as an excuse as to why they're losing
"hurr, it's literally impossible!" every shitter just jumps on the bandwagon desperate for any excuse other than the fact that they suck
>>171138732
>I won against a shit lawbringer with my raider so I'm good guys
>>171138816
parry their lights
>>171138732
she is very hard to play vs someone that knows how to parry
you need to do a lot of things to get basically 2/3ds of what a pk gets for pushing one button, other than that she is one of the most fun chars to play so far, speaking as a warden main
>>171138778
kid..........you have no idea.....................
>>171138748
Thanks for the tutorial, but I still wanna get the striped pantsu.
The angel wings and assless chaps are nice but they remind me too much of Overwatch or magical girls, which is fine, but I'm a fan of the classics
>>171138680
He shouldn't even be alive. Doesn't fit him at all.
>>171138950
That lawbringer knew how to soft feint and parry but nice try. It's funny the amount of excuses that is used to downplay me. Yes I know PK is top tier but I know how to play the game.
>>171139103
I guess i'll play her then, poison salt is too funny. I dropped orochi for Raider for the reason he was a boring fuck
>>171138816
be extremely offensive with shove
they cant trade hits with you because their HP is garbage
Hello what are soft feints thanks
>>171139405
Knowing how to feint and parry is different from actually being good at doing those things.
Nice try.
>>171139535
feinting me softly
>>171139535
canceling without using the feint button, that can be done to any attack, not just the heavies
>>171139165
just pretend it's one of the Victoria's Secret chicks anon
>>171137863
A lot of assassin players do it to make it confusing where the attack is coming from and keep their guard active and cause they can avoid being knocked down due to a stance glitch where they spam it.
Conquerors also do it while charging heavy to make it unpredictable.
It's a total scrub tactic that only works vs scrubs.
You should never be relying on their current guard position too much to see where attacks are coming from, only the animation and red indicator.
>>171139631
How is it done ?
>>171139405
What can lawbringer even softfeint again?
>>171139631
How though. Can Lawbringer do that? I thought it was only Conq and Wahlawd
>>171138405
Gotcha. I only just started getting into 1v1 and that was the first time I saw somebody doing that, figures he was such a bad sport.
>>171139558
Yup but why aren't you good at it?
I hope lawbringer gets buffed so you still lose.
>>171139706
search in/r/CompetitiveForHonor/
>>171139682
Well, those are a couple of convincing arguments
>>171139845
Peace keeper can do it too kek heavy into grab
I believe it may be the same for Law bringer or its one of his stance thing into grab
>use Xbone controller to try it out
>need to fucking smash RB to make it work
typical microshit making a good design awful. 360 style triggers and bumpers when?
Literally worse than a steam controller l m f a o
>>171140251
You're the only person I've ever heard having that problem
>zerker uses rage and berserk feats at the same time.
>>171140251
>having such weak pussy ass fingers that you need smash the button
Laughing at your life right now
>when you're laughing so hard you can't retaliate
>>171140490
MyAxeYourFace
>>171140034
holy shit thats fucking broken
>>171140490
>playing as hyper offense revenge build Raider
>pop Fury
>pop Revenge
It's one spicy pizza my man
>>171140569
christ, Conq has gotta be the most buggy class in FH, so many glitches
>>171140569
>one steel spaulder
Why though.
>>171140837
For the /fa/shion.
Gotta have that true side spaulder so you teammates can mire from behind
>>171140837
I have a thing for asymmetrical armor/colors, especially when it comes to shoulders
So the right one is where I have the engraving, therefore it remains a different color than the rest of my armor
>>171140815
it was just some dicking around with friends, plus he's an aussie and i'm in NA
>>171138778
The windup of shoulder bash has to be quicker for sure.
>>171141158
>quicker
You mean longer? Shoulder Bash should be more of a commitment with cancels taking up a as much time as feints.
This is why frame data is so important in fighting games.
Raider could've capitalized on his "turn" with the dodge attack but the Warden had time to cancel and react before that could happen, disrupting what should've been a punish to win that fight.
>>171138778
He didn't do that on reaction, he predicted.
>>171141082
>I have a thing for asymmetrical armor
Then why are you using Arcturus, of all possible arm models?
Soft feinting on KB+M is too hard
>>171141487
because they left gear stats on during that duel so I couldn't use my f a s h i o n loadout
>>171108429
So this fuck on Xbox...
Part 1 because 2000 char limit
>be shugoki main, and a samurai
>'friend' is nobushi main, but a viking
>want to try something I saw in a vid once
>I go shugoki, he goes raider
>do it
>we proceed to fight over the course of about 15-20 minutes
>the entire time he's spamming feats like fire flask
>damage is set to lethal so if I am not immediately sprinting at top speed I'm guarenteed to die
>say he couldn't beat me in a fair fight
>he refuses to fight fairly, he doesn't state it but he won't fight me
>challenge him to a duel
>duel
>am roach now, he's a valk
>heavy attacks, parries and swift dodges until he dies
>'lol youre garbage'
>he invites his friend
>i claim i can beat both of them
>his friend is a 'muh honor' like me
>his friend goes LB, he goes nobushi
>swapped to shugoki
>kill nobushi, execute
>swap to the LB, who immediately after finishing said execution starts attacking me
>insufficient health to kill LB, die
>fight LB
>good honor fight, until he throws me off a cliff because I backed him into a corner
>he didn't mean to do that
>next round fight nobushi again, nobushi now bleed spams me from a distance and runs off
>can't get close enough without him simply rolling off or bleed spamming
>die
>'lol youre garbage'
>next match swap to roach
>he swapped to warden, the other is still LB
>can't fight LB for some reason, could throw him off ledge but would then prompt double teaming and ledging
>die to LB, every time I do kill him warden approaches and gb spamlocks me
>next match swap back to shugoki
>two raiders now, identical
>fight his friend honorably
>he hits me from behind while me and his friend are dueling
>chase him
>we're on The Shard now, so he runs to the center bridge above B
>predict him GB throwing me off the bridge
>see him move into position, then slightly towards me for a quick gb
>oni charge him off the ledge
>fight his friend honorably, killing him
>'lol youre still garbage, spamming'
So I just started and I don't understand the fighting game lingo.
What do you guys mean when you say "tech"?
>>171141621
I'm smashing unsubscribe but nothing is happening
>>171141654
counter guard break
>>171141621
>>'friend' is nobushi main, but a viking
Are you this fucking autistic?
Oh wait, you typed out this whole post.
>>171141621
nice blog, liked, favorited and subscribed!
Peacekeeper needs to be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine.
I honestly am liking the campaign so far
>>171141621
i don't want to declare this game dead now but if this next post comes through and one single person here reads this one or the one next one entirely, the game will be officially dead along with this general
>>171141621
Nobody cares about your salt matches. Please stop.
>>171141885
It's okay, turns to weeb trash though. I thought there would have been a fourth campaign after finishing knights/vikings/samurai.
>>171142079
Yeah PK's section was terrible, it gets better after that though
>>171141464
I mean, yeah, you shouldnt be able to cancel it so fast to prevent a stuff like that Raider's stunning poke.
>>171142131
Not even the worst part for edginess the second last boss fight was ridiculous cringe
Why are fucking 9 out of every 10 duels I get against assassins? Fuck me.
>>171142323
Assassins are the most broken classes so they have the most players.
>>171142079
Viking campaign was the best.
>burning down a village
>horseback chase sequence
>badass chain rappelling with a dane axe
>that one mission where you're a fucking WARLORD on the fucking SHIPYARD map, literally impossible not to giggle like a retard
>"I don't speak Japanese"
>Storming the beach like in Saving Private Ryan
>YOU ARE RAIDER, LEDGENDARY
>>171141871
louder, angrier and with the mouth wide open
I think I might actually play nobushi, she has one of the best looking armour imo.
>>171142442
I MUST DEFEAT YOU
>>171142394
>Orochi and zerker
>broken
>>171142442
It seems the most complete. Knights was mostly a tutorial. Weebs was rushed.
>>171142079
>Weeb story doesn't let you play as Nobushi or based 'get out of my swamp' Shugoki
Still mad to this day
>decide to play some duels as Law
>get matched up against an endlessly feinting Berserker
>just let him kill me after the first round because there's no hope in winning against this
>he just stands there half the time begging for me to at least try against him
>alright
>he just goes back to endlessly feinting
>stand next to an edge and GB
>he techs
>I fall off
>I finally killed myself
>next match
>same dude
>he does the same exact thing
>quit
>now bitching on 4chan because nobody I know plays this game because it's perceived as shit by anyone with eyes to notice the Ubisoft seal of quality
>>171142574and then Guts grabs the dukes daughter and holds her hostage
>>171142637
>weeb story doesn't have the faction's vanguard hero as the main character
FOR
WHAT
PORPOISE
>match starts
>recovering gameplay state immediately starts, lasts 5 minutes
>returned to menu
good
>>171142637
that fucking Thinning the Herd mission as Kensei though, christ what a pain that was on realistic, first time i died during campaign, and i died A LOT
>>171142574
Orochi is fucking unlockable against raiders.
>>171142682
Why the fuck would you duel as Lawbringer
>>171142714
Because Orochi represents Samurai more than Kensei, at least what weebs think Samurai should be. Fast, wielding a katana that hums, that stupid lightning move, etc.
>>171142442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCQbdysjbgo
>>171142682
you Lawbringer mains all seem like masochists that enjoy endless punishment
are any of you actually having fun and enjoying the game playing as a LB?
>>171141621
Part 2, not as long
>'friend' has now swapped to PK
>his friend has swapped to roach, not specifically to fight, but to watch and learn, since he hasn't played roach
>am roach, thus why his friend swapped
>first round starts with him opening up with the jumping forward top heavy, like he had the previous times he played PK
>block, attempt to parry, but block
>predict gb and cgb
>smash him with several heavies and the occasional sidestep light to throw off his heavy
>continues to call me garbage
>fight friend, honorable duel, but die anyway
>second round is against his friend
>attempt to start fight honorably
>he immediately starts emote spamming
>can't resist, join in, because I stopped caring
>we both emote spam each other
>PK can't take it anymore, jumps in behind me
>tfw was watching him approach long before emote spam started, because he's a pk
>perfectly timed block
>he runs away, anticipating me to chase him
>continue emote spamming without regret
>we both turn to him and continue emote spamming
>intention is to emote spam him into a corner
>laughing too hard to deflect incoming pk onslaught
>die without regret and still laughing
>fight next round
>fight PK
>smash him
>'still garbage'
>orochi friend honorably duels me, resulting in me dying
>next match, shugoki
>return of cancer and raider
>fight raider honorably, narrowly kill him with successful DE
>turn to nobushi
>already getting hit by bleed
>can't kill nobushi for next 2 rounds, due to me being slower, and he just dodges away and bleeds, I can hit him, I just can't kill him
>die to bleed once again
>'youre garbage, with your spam'
>his words
Fucking degenerate piece of shit, I can't even deal with nobushi pieces of shit now
>>171142442
It really is. The Viking crew chilling out in the boat also had me laughing my ass off.
Orochi was also cucked by Femsei.
>>171139535
>>171142915
I am, I like his voice and his armour.
It's satisfying when you make someone eat shit as well.
>>171142920
good thing i was subbed, would have missed this otherwise
noice post my man!
>>171142915
>>are any of you actually having fun and enjoying the game playing as a LB?
Yes. Playing a broken class isn't required to have fun.
>Hmm, game is dying, what should I do?
>I know! I will play Raider!
Kys
>>171142945
Why didn't they just use a bow
>>171142915
I enjoy LB when I'm not matched up against someone who is better than me.Which is pretty much everyone
>>171143045
RAIDER?
>>171142874
I wanna see this scene in the Japanese language version.
>>171142852
Tbh I figured story mode was simply in development before the current class system was implemented. IIRC the samurai representative in all of the earliest trailers and and promotional material was the orochi.
nerf warlord
>>171143031
Shugo charge and Lawbringer spike charge should really have a special interaction where they both get knocked backwards and stunned for a moment.
>>171142915
yeah I actually really like him
it completely sucks when you play against someone who never attacks first and can tech every gb, though
>>171142915
I main raider, even though he gets shit on by people here I still have fun with it. I do alright against anyone but fucking assassins. Waiting for a buff.
>>171142874
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXnNpu5M9vg
>>171142842
Because I enjoy the character but he's so fucking shit. Just fix his guard stance bullshit so I can at least stand a chance against these Assassin shitters.
>>171142915
I fucking hate other Lawbringer players because they bitch about stuff that he doesn't need. His entire design is just bad for a game that revolves around a defensive reactionary meta since he's supposed to be a counter attacker but none of his toolkit makes that his strength. Sure he has long distance punishes on parries and some nice setups, but so does Warden. And Warden is actually fast, has good punishes, has good mixups, doesn't have shit guard stance speed, etc.
every single Nobushi fight is a work of art
i am seriously in love with this character
>>171142983
>>171143183
Also when fighting any nobushi, holy shit fuck nobushi.
Literally impossible to get close enough to actually hit her.
>>171143274
yeah, I really want to learn her because her playstyle looks like it can be so free flowing
>ubisoft is still putting money and resources into shit like the division and siege (that work perfectly fine) rather then put it into for honor to fix all its shit
god how can one company be so retarded. it blows my mind.
>>171143060
No time, have to belay that order
>also implying arrows could damage Raider's perfect physique
Didn't you see the trailer? He didn't give a fuck about that arrow to his liver.
https://youtu.be/g6GGoTxvGzk?t=2m46s
>>171143181
This is what should happen.
https://youtu.be/tnF9Nacj-as?t=73
>takes 3 of us to finally kill their warlord
>didn't execute
>he starts getting back up.
>>171143319
wat, you literally just walk up to them while blocking their slow ass attacks
>>171143319
block and shove closes the gap like 99% of the time
>>171143394
>implying ubisoft is putting any money into fixing siege
don't delude yourself, ubisoft only cares about the division
>>171143394
you know that most likely the budged for a project and the support after release is approved years before
>>171143432
That's not how livers work
>>171142591
Viking was half assed and entertaining because of it, it might as well have been a roadtrip movie with just how serious it wasn't despite it being about a people surviving the from brink of starvation.RAIDER!RAAAAIDEEEEER!
>>171143485
>>171143504
And then she dodges backwards and you are back to square 1.
Quick, what is your OTP?
Lawbringer and Nobushi.
>>171143618
if she dodges back then dodge right after her, she can't attack right after dodging
>>171143618
gb her after the shove then
she can't tech it if she tries to dodge when it connects
>>171138191
soft cancel?
>>171143636
Sometimes I let female orochi kill me so i can pretend like she's really decapitating me
>>171143636
Nobushi and Warden is one true confirmed couple
>>171143459
>Superman vaporizes Doomsday's brain to the point where he turns him retarded, but doesn't kill him to trigger the adaptation
Jesus fucking christ that show is dark
>All the super friends just fly in after supes lobotomizes Doomsday for an interview while they let the regular ass NYPD arrest a planet breaking monster
Also irresponsible.
>>171139405
>>171138191
Name a single move the lawbringer can even soft feint
>>171143636
I don't know what OTP means, but I supose male conq/female raider and he mistakes her for his parole officer/lawbringer because he's a dumbass thug.
>>171143470
>when you help a team shut down a revenge warlord with perfectly times heavies
It's so nice.
Warden nerfs when?
>>171143636
Kensei andhis sword
If you people have to defend the game by saying its not dying then maybe it is? You don't see overwatch having to kick and scream about it
>>171143636
Femwarden x Me
>>171143974
He actually does adapt to it, he returns a couple seasons later and normal universe Superman tries to lobotomize him but there's a crest of bone preventing it from happening.
>>171144574
Overwatch will always be alive because its heavily infested with muh esporbs and famous twitch celebs
>>171144574
of course it is dying
who is suggesting it isn't dying? it is dying
but i can't imagine where i'd have to be in my life to post something like this to "you people" in a videogame general thread
it would be incredibly depressing and if i'm being honest i loathe for honor. i just can't imagine how empty my existence would have to be to seek attention from nerd zilches on a 4chan videogame general like this.
>>171143979
his long arm and heavy attacks, yeah?
>>171144970
That's not a soft feint
>>171143979
are you a fucking idiot?
>>171142983
>>171144458
When you learn to play.
>>171143636
Raider and FemConq
BecauseShe used to be a Berserker, but was captured by Blackstone. They had a fiery relationship.
>>171145157
Just so you know, I made that webm and I have it say it is EXTREMELY difficult to do. Also any class can do it. You can also kara cancel his light into a zone but who needs to do that when his zone is fuck all slow?
btw, I am not the person you are calling an idiot, I'm the guy you linked to
>>171144574
autism
>>171145142
a soft feint isn't cancelling attacks with another attack?
what's scarier, a revenge PK or a revenge Warlord?
what's least scary in revenge mode?
>>171145301
how do you do those cancels?
>>171144663
>normal universe Superman
Wut. I knew comics went up their own ass with alternate dimensions but I didn't know the show Justice League pulled that shit.
>>171145360
either way you get uninterruptible zone spam
Pk is faster tho so I'll say her
>>171145360
>>what's scarier, a revenge PK or a revenge Warlord?
Warlord. That headbutt will win him the game instantly.
>>what's least scary in revenge mode?
Lawbringer. Still slow as shit so it doesn't normally matter, though the shove can help. If they have slow reaction time.
>>171145439
It only happened once and was referenced a few times after but they more often than not stayed within their own universe. Well, except when they went to fight hawkpeople's Cthulu.
I'm bored of Lawbringer and Conq.
2 decides who I start playing next, no Peacekeeper.
>>171145586
Berserker
>>171145652
heh
>>171145586
Lewdkeeper.
>>171145652
Alright.
so did runa in the campaign have a learning disability
her dialogue was more awkward than the actually retarded shugoki in the weeb campaign
>>171145360
Warlord, undodgeable headbutt with armor to instantly knock your ass down and take 50% of your health with one attack.
Least scary? Nobushi by far. They'll just spam the AoE and kick over and over again.
>>171145451
a zone spamming PK is not scary, if she does nothing else it becomes easy to parry it
a PK who mixes up zone spam with lights however is a living nightmare
still though, headbutt spamming Warlords are worse, especially since most people are retarded and just wail on him when he's in full guard and just feed him revenge after revenge
>>171145546
>except when they went to fight hawkpeople's Cthulu
I'll uh, pretend to know what that is.
So is that black and white suit Superman a stronger version or evil or something?
>>171145586
>>171145652
Enjoy playing the most boring character in the game.
>>171145749
>actually retarded shugoki
Nah he was just a giganigga so he always ran out of breath mid sentence.
>did runa in the campaign have a learning disability
She was a blockhead, but I don't think she was disabled.
That's just what it looks like when a girl is one of the guys her whole life and doesn't open up too much.
>>171145828
'Justice Lord' Superman, from a timeline where the Flash was killed and the Justice League went rogue and took over the planet. I don't think he's stronger or weaker, just willing to kill as the first time he does it is to fry Lex Luthor.
>>171145749
The weebs were the worst for that as they have asian sounding actors for all the combat stuff but obviously White ones for the campaign? Doesn't really make sense unless they've just been colonized over and over by Knights and Vikings.
>>171142983
How the fuck do you do that?
Also is there any benefit to doing that? The GB cancel might work for some damage, but people generally dodge the long arm, meaning they'll dodge the poke, too. And even if the poke hits, that's the same amount of damage you would've gotten if the long arm hit, too.
What should I go for after a parry for nubishi? Any other tips?
>>171146098
The VAs that do combat voicelines are obviously not the same ones that actually voice the characters.
Otherwise I'd probably play warden more just to hear Guts shouting in latin
>>171140012
Nice projection there.
Just shows me how retarded you actually are.
>>171146187
you get a damage boost to grounded hits, not sure how much it is though
>>171145749
>>171146098
>>171146302
The videos sorta explain why most of them act
Valkyrie for example says "They follow no one only the gods" she was acting autistic since she doesnt fully listen to the Jarl
>>171142983
That doesn't look like an intended mechanic at all desu
>>171146187
longarm>softfeint heavy>feint>gb
there you go, lawbringer has mixup now
>>171142983
90% chance this gets removed like Kensei's dash unblockable.
10% chance it gets added to his moveset.
>>171146349
>you get a damage boost to grounded hits
God I would love it so much if Lawbringer had a trait or move like that.
Being able to knock people down and do crazy damage like Nobushi's Way of the Shark would be awesome
>>171145157
Sure I'm an idiot for not knowing a not very well known cancel bug that you probably were not even talking about at first my man.
>be lawman
>can't parry for shit, starting to match up against guys who can parrylock me
>getting rekt constantly
>swap to warden because still a knight and higher level warden gear looks snazzy as fuck
>beat honorable foes with 'the onezone' method: one zone attack & one vortex cycle only
>shit on pkshits and roaches with max zonespam
>reach rep3, pimped up gear
>getting kinda bored though
>go back to lawman
>I can parry now
>i can blind justice reliably now
>mfw i bully pkshits into corners and give them a taste of THE P(oleaxe)
>mfw lawman feels better than ever
>>171138816
Nothing, play a better character. Lawbringer is bottom of the barrel garbage. If you get better at the game and continue to play him you're just going to get frustrated to the point of not even wanting to play the game.
t. Lawbringer main
>>171145382
>>171146187
>>171146470
Short explanation is that you have your start direction (in the case in the webm, either side), change to new direction and GB at the same time as you light attack and you change direction.
The benefit of it is that it will cause the GB indicator to pop up on their screen but then you will light attack. The long arm one is really only good for catching people dodging to the side as they will fall out of range if they dodge backwards.
It's VERY difficult to get the timing down though.
>>171146349
This is a lie.
>>171147037
They add it, but rip it's speed out and slow it way the fuck down so that people can still reactively parry it every time.
>>171147115
>half the thread discussing soft feint tech
>durr i didnt know
>>171138816
>too fast to guard
just play a different character, I guess
LB performance is like directly linked to your own personal skill, if you can't parry or tech or block fast enough, he's not going to work out for you
>>171147229
Who cares about soft feints? It's useless tech that just makes the already good characters better and the already shit characters shittier.
>>171137515
Once more with an invite?
This place sounds amazing.
>>171147229
That was after my post
>>171147115
backpedaling AND retarded
>>171147295
>>171147164
>so that people can still reactively parry it every time
>from knockdown, on the ground
>it only comes from one direction
AGHHHHH
>>171147394
I doubt you know what that means, my friend
>>171147414
Example. Soft feints on Law are fucking useless because startup is so slow on his lights, let alone recovery. By the time you've already done a soft feint your next attack will just be stuffed by a heavy.
>>171142983
>People finding even more bugs to ruin the combat even more
Soft feint is an euphemism for that shit.
I'll still try to do this to keep up with the kids.
>>171147708
Far as I know the LAW method is to overhead light poke and tech GB's until they either shove (dodge) or swing (block) after which you shove-chain heavy/light mix-up and start into the stamina war
t. LAW main (not high rep tho)
>>171147121
This is weird. It's normally the other way around, one learns how to parry with the Law
>>171148067
I dunno, maybe because his guard shift time is slow he's a lousy parry? Warden taught me how to time parries because of Crushing Counterstrike. That and she doesn't have that sweet sweet counter shove.
>>171148047
>they parry the top light
>you're instantly out of stamina
>heavy without stamina
>lol
>die
>>171148481
Law top light doesn't take shit for stamina, what are you talking about?
>>171148481
>wow, I can't read
you utter dumdum. You blind justice when they're exhausted, so you drop the hit into a knockdown.
>>171148709
>>171148858
If you're playing Law and you just do the pommel bash over and over again they're going to parry it. Considering Law eats through stamina by walking two paces to the side you'll almost always be out of or incredibly low on stamina when you're parried.
>>171148858
>Blind Justice
>ever
Lol how's Rep 1 treating you?
>>171149535
You don't play Law, do you?
>hur hur always pommel bash always and forever
no, you dink. You use it to disrupt grabs, shoves, and long windup hits. Also the occasional harass. Then, when they go for a faster hit, you block, punish, et cetera.
>you cant blind justice ever its too slow and always gets parried or dodged
unless you get it off when your foe is exhausted, where a parry AUTOMATICALLY KNOCKS THEM DOWN. No block, no parry, no dodge. Eat a double damage overhead heavy to the crotch.
I type words and nobody reads them.
I'm a wizard
>>171149869
you forgot a light parry confirms a blind justice, but otherwise i agree
This general became painfully slow
>>171150189
Shut the fuck up I like it now
>>171149535
You are an idiot. Blind justice will always connect if you parry a light attack.
>>171150184
>>171150241
>Law getting off a light parry
I'm not THAT good. I like using it, but I can't reliably get those off. So I figured out another way.
I hate how long it takes to get into fights in this game. I also hate how long the transition is between rounds
>all those low level warlords and pk every fucking where
Everyone's joining the cancer, what the fuck.
>>171150241
>going for a hit that does barely any damage but LOL STUN
You might as well GB and get the side heavy, try to set up something else. Stun is useless when you can't follow it up with anything.
What makes Kensei remotely useful, viable, or interesting to play? Seems like he is basically just Nobushi with less range, less options, no need.
Why is Kensei not considered Raider-tier?
>>171150709
If you cant beat em ________
how the fuck am I even supposed to learn how to play a new character?
I play duel modes and I get shit on by one of the four flavors of cheese
I play 4v4 and I get shit on by rep 15 PKs with revenge builds
>>171151040
He actually has good range
A good guard break stun
a good unblockable combo that works
>>171151040
Kensei is miles above raider but he doesn't have a lot of options to crack turtles.
What's with assassin characters in videogames attracting the worst players?
>>171151125
remove em
>>171151040
Because Kensei has mixups. Granted, it hardly matters when your mixups can be reacted to, but at least you can do more than one thing.
Kensei also doesn't have a slow guard change, so that instantly makes him better than Raider.
>>171151478
It's the edginess, the anime appeal and the idea that speed trumps all.
>>171151478
muh assassins creed
>>171151478
muh speed
muh damage
It's so fun that people pick con and Valk then when they beat me they won't rematch against my day zero nobushi like your so cool dude.
>>171151478
Literally anime, and a ton of western shows that push the "faster is stronger" meme alongside papier-mashe armor.
People love to root for the underdog and hate to see the expected result to the point where having the bigger guy win is unexpected in fiction.
This goes back so far in western culture, from real life events like the Battle to Marathon, to mythos like David and Goliath.
Dexfaggotry has always attracted the beta cuck poets who got stepped on by Chads.
>>171151478
because they are usually the easiest to play and fairly strong
how do i open people up as raider? im used to playing conqueror and shugoki who are both played reactively
>>171151478
PK and Orochi are braindead Nothing to them, PK just needs to R1 and zone to win every fight and ORochi on;t has his top lights, his zone, and guardbreak heavies. Ironically Berzerker is the most skilled assassin because he HAS to do mindgames to get ANY hits in.
>>171152280
Well, I don't raider at ALL but I notice that higher end raiders like to do this sort of overhead pommel strike thing that stuns me. That's annoying as hell...
>>171151465
>Kensei is miles above raider but he doesn't have a lot of options to crack turtles.
That is literally the exact thing that makes raider bad and practically all this game is about - cracking turtles.
>>171152303
>orochi
>braindead
What?
Orochi is a shitter stomper, so if you want to actually beat someone decent with orochi, you can't be braindead.
t. not an orochi main
>>171152280
>how do i open people up as raider?
You are pretty much stuck feinting until they do something and then parrying them.
That's why Raider is bottom-tier.
>>171152625
No no, if you want to be decent with him you have to stick to his only safe not parry bait moves, top light and zone. Any time you are using anything other than top light and zone you are getting parried and murdered.
>>171150241
I parried a noboshi light yesterday and my she still parried my ad mortem.
Maybe i didn't activate it soon enough.
>>171152474
Raider flat out has no options, ever. I think he;s worse than LB because even Lawbringer can get some hits out of defensive play. Raider gets nothing out of a parry but a light or a gb into a light. His heavies will NEVER land.
>elimination order
>every elimination is nothing but PKs and warlords
so they've infested 4s now too
>>171152716
Anybody half decent at the game can parry his top lights, because they know that's easily his best move. So if you wanna beat someone decent, you're going to have to get creative.
The zone is very safe to use, I know. I've parried orochi zones before, but only because I knew they were coming.
Those two moves are what most orochi players use, yes, but if you want to be a good orochi, you need more than that. It's pretty well recognized that orochi is borderline underpowered.
>>171152280
>tfw raider has fucking nothing for confirms
Feint constantly, play aggro as fuck
>>171152857
>GB
>carry them to wall
>knee head
>unblockable
More trouble, but more damage than law can get off of a normal parry
>>171152857
you can zone attack after a gb
>>171153087
they can just parry it
>then I feint
alright, then they just dodge it
>>171153189
>GB during dodge, untechable
>>171153214
>Get GB'd during your feint, untechable
>playerbase has dropped 90%
>which means 90% less load on the servers
>literally half of the matches STILL end in a disconnect
i'm about done with this game
Well I'm done for the night. Valk keeps being mean to me.
>>171153605
90% of players gone means jack shit when it comes to p2p.
>>171153605
>He thinks it's dedicated
At this point you'd kinda think they saved allot of effort on going p2p if this many people were going to leave
>>171153087
>unblockable
Parry
>feint it
They feint their thrown heavy on reaction. You see, on any other character, when they wall somebody, they can get a SERIOUSLY damaging heavy out. Not the weakest heavy in their arsenal.
>>171153778
I've been getting shit like this constantly the past two days on PS4. It fucking sucks.
Also fix your webm man you could almost double the size of it. You could also shorten it to just the skip, but thats just my tastes.
You guys think the update will be tomorrow?
They seem to do things on Thursdays.
>>171153972
I will keep that in mine, thanks.
>>171152280
Feinting (which all the classes can do), Stunning Tap, and Heavy Tap cancels. Raider is also one of the two characters who can Dodge>GB
Feinting should be self explanatory if you've played classes besides Conqueror, and works the same for pretty much everyone.
Stunning Tap is Raider's premier opener; able to punish bashes and rolls, and generally leaves your opponent guessing with a 33/33/33 Heavy followup, or an almost always free Light.
It always comes from the top and is very quick, so you'll often see opponents familiar with the matchup leaving their guard high.
The real magic though happens when you cancel Heavy attacks into Stunning Tap with the Feint timing. You change the timing and trajectory of you move on the fly to give your opponent multiple indicators for where the attack comes from, and lunge forward if you were going to whiff to hit your opponent.
This is why it's popular to say Raider has a two move movelist, because Stunning Tap and Lights are the only useful moves at high level.
Dodge>GB is also useful when you've conditioned your opponent with Dodge>Tap, but like everything Raider has, requires some trickery to pull off.
>>171154212
Raider has matchups that he flat out cannot win against any decent players. I once played against a raider as a warden, and this raider was significantly more skillful at raider than I was at warden. Didn't matter, he couldn't break through my fundamentals no matter how many soft of hard feints he pulled and every time he went for a stunning tap it was either parried or crushing counter'd. Not to mention whenever he successfully GB'd or threw me against a wall, he got a light attack. Whenever I threw him against a wall, I got my overhead heavy and I got a heavy or a vortex starter whenever I landed a GB.
>>171153435
>get GB'd during unblockable, kills your stamina as if they parry'd it
T-Thanks Ubi. Also thanks for giving Raider such a delay off Forward Throw>Wall/Ground that my opponents can block heavies.
Not like I worked hard for that grab or anything.
damn, was hoping the live update would be mentioned
>>171154519
Yep. Rep 5 Raider here, I know the pain of no free heavies unless my opponent gets parried out of stam.
Gotta be nice to those new players and give them big delays to react so they can learn the game :^)
Not like Valk can do pretty much everything the same except off of 2 Lights and a Sweep>Heavy for half your health.
Or a Heavy Cancelled Bash>Sweep.
Or start literally all her chains off of Dodge Lights :DD
>>171154690
My one fucking issue with ubisoft is how they never talk to us
fuck community managers
>>171154519
Sounds like what happen today when I was raider. Got 3-0 by a warden
I like to imagine Nobushi looks like Anri Okita under the mask.
>>171154978
Yeah, tons of AAA devs are absolutely terrible for responding.
Every community gripe is in next Monday's community address 3 hour meeting where they debate the validity of talking points for 10 minutes a piece. Then they get onto the "real business" of how to monetize more aspects of the game.
>>171154954
don't you get a zone after a GB or carrying someone's ass?
>>171155304
It's half of your goddamned stamina just to get some damage off of a GB or throw. No other class has this problem, even Lawbringer can land heavies off of guardbreak or throw.
>>171154954
you get side heavy after a light parry
>>171153829
>>171153930
>they dont know how p2p works
its still on ubis servers
>>171150965
>barely any damage
>does 45 damage
>barely any damage
Are you retarded? Sounds like it.
>>171155409
I assume that was meant to make raiders use terrain. If they give raider heavies on GB they'll have to reduce the throw distance a lot and maybe even remove the carry.
>>171156038
raider doesnt get a guaranteed heavy off a wall stun anyway
if raider can CGB during dodges what the fuck do you do to punish dodging?
>>171156038
Warlord can carry just as far, wall, AND get heavies off of both walling and guardbreak. Even a raider using the terrain perfectly can't land his heavies and I think the overhead heavy is only ever guaranteed off of exhausted stumble.
>>171156101
a wall throw will get a side heavy, a carry into wall with get a zone and a stun which I honestly prefer to a simple heavy.
>>171156148
Let's not use warlord to argue about balance. He's bullshit all around.
>>171156134
This is like saying, "What the fuck can you do to punish blocking?"
Do you actually understand what a punish is?
You don't seem to...
>disconnect every other 4v4 game
>"okay i'll try brawl, half the players means half the chance of disconnecting"
>disconnects first game right before a 3-0
>>171156038
Raider's carry makes him worse than a lot of characters other than for environmental kills. The slam daze is a terrible thing because all of the playerbase can block the heavily telegraphed raider moveset by sight. THe character based around grabs and moving people around is actually just terrible at actually doing anything out of grabs.
Warlord player said to me that all Warlord has is zone and the dash attack; he is mid tier. At least peace keeper mains aren't insane
>>171156415
GB is a punish to dodging, if you force someone to dodge (feint, shove mixup, etc) you can then punish.
I was asking what you can do to raider after forcing a dodge.
How is it hard to understand?
>>171156581
For Honor is a fighting game that happens to have some shit-tier casual esports modes tacked on.
It always was.
>>171155304
Think you might, but I've usually avoided it because it kills all your stamina. I've got to go to the lab now.
>>171155607
Really? I rarely bother trying to parry lights because of whiff punishes.
I know that Parry>GB>Heavy is not free though.
This really, really makes me want to make a flowchart of what is guaranteed and what isn't. Because I feel like a lot of unverified info is being distributed right now.
>>171156134
Hit him with a dodge attack? Hit him with an attack from the opposite direction? Not that hard.
I notice that a lot of the raider's best feats are cooldowns, is it worth taking feet cooldown reduction and tanking revenge defense?
Also, is it better to have exhaustion recovery or revenge mode defense as a boost? Which one do i take for the deficit?
>>171156779
>revenge raider
Maybe you can finally land a heavy.
>>171153829
Where the fuck did you get that statistic?
>>171156779
Yes. You can make it possible where raider kills in one heavy with revenge
>>171156708
>peacekeeper mains aren't insane
What? Most peacekeeper mains are pretty retarded, or stubborn, and constantly try to defend her, and sperg out whenever things don't go their way.
I had a peacekeeper report me for pancake flipping her until she died.
That's your average peacekeeper main's intelligence level.
After this match I just want to crawl into a pit and die.
>be me, rep 1 kensei, new to the game
>play 1v1 get paired with rep 7 warlord
>first game he dominates me throwing me off ledges and turtling
>taunts for every kill and during fights
>2nd game, I win 1 round but he gets me with ledges again
>3rd game, 2 rounds for me but he got me with his heavy attacks
>4th game, I got his pattern down, win every round and execute him for the victory
>he quits instantly
I'm a shitter but goddamn, that felt good
>>171156779
Revenge Defense is really needed if your going for a Revenge build and plan on Zoning entire teams. It's all preference though because he does have a lot of single use abilities.
Raider's best Renown 1 Feat is Tireless though, so you can afford to gimp 1-2/3 of your stamina stats.
On my Raider I've got min cost reduction, min exhaustion recovery, and secondary stam recovery, and that allows you just to pool a ton of points into straight Revenge stats and Attack/Defense.
>>171157124
Hmm I never heard anyone call her not top tier but I guess. For me I'm sick of Valk, shogouki feints, did they patch the glitch yet with shogouki? I'm glad I don't run into good war lords
>>171157423
The patched Shugoki glitch in the big patch.
>>171157136
Oh shit, thats the first time i've seen a lawbringer higher than me.
>>171157548
Oh okay, I don't know why I struggle against shugoki, Valk, and warden so much. I can barely react to Valk but I can parry peace keepers lights.
Not to be a downer but this game is legit dead to me until a huge patch or dlc comes out. The memes aren't good and everyone here just talks about the same things over and over, so I'm confused as to what keeps most of you guys going. Is it hope? Are you hoping for a gigantic all-in-one? Because I am. I'm hoping they streamline getting into a game, i don't even care about getting kicked off because of errors. I just am not interested in waiting 5 minutes from launch to getting in game. Also that centurion looks amazing so far.
>>171157953
Yeah I'm in the same boat but I'm also hopeful for the future of this game.
https://youtu.be/G50S_6Iqk4E
And people say Knights have no memes.
>>171157953
>I'm confused as to what keeps most of you guys going
I really, really enjoying hitting idiots with fully-charged Shugoki heavy attacks.
>>171158089
Cross is my husbando. No homo.
>>171157953
I'm waiting for the dlc too but overall I enjoy this game a lot. I main peace keeper but i play multiple characters too. My main problem is the armour for lots of characters look like shit. Im a rep 6 pk and her chest pieces look terrible compared to her weapons
>>171157851
Those three are top shitter hitters, no offense aimed at you. Valk arguably got over buffed, as her speed is fucking insane, but her damage is low enough that unless you get combo'd hard you should be able to win the damage race just with standard block and punish. Warden is just the punish king of the world.
Shugoki you just have to parry. His lights are quick, but not that quick. If you don't trade with him and you don't let yourself get wall tossed, there's only so much he can do to you.
>>171157953
>I'm confused as to what keeps most of you guys going
The combat is fun.
>>171158238
Were you born with such garbage taste or did you have to be specially trained?
YOUR THREAD IS BREAKING
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>>171113216
I-Is that the Light Rail Avenger, may he rest in peace?
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>>171158881
that figures. Oh well.
>>171143846
This.