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RSC best gun Edition

>Weapon and stats:
http://symthic.com/bf1-stats
Symthic's already started their metacrafting autism

>Emblem stealing website for uncreative babbies: http://emblemsbf.com/

FAQ:
Q: Is BF4 dead?
A: Yes, BF1 now.

Q: Where are the BF1 Platoons?
A: platoon is kill

Q: Which VOIP Do I join?
A: Yuropoors will be more likely to find people on the Discord. Mumble seems to attract NA players. Use whichever you like.

Mumble server (VOIP and Text)
wevidyanow.com
port: 64738

Mumble download (Snapshot version is more stable and has more features)
https://wiki.mumble.info/wiki/Main_Page

Apparently there's an xbox club called Battlefield General. That's all I know

>Discord
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1rpW8KRCY8A (embed)
https://discord.gg/TK8snEj

Previous Thread >>170915139
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>>171082441
I've never played ops yet, but Soy Sauce CQ is literally tanks, tanks, and more tanks. And planes too, in case there wasn't enough tanks for you

On top of vehicles everywhere, poor vehicle choices make it even worse. I've seen a team where 3/4 of their starting tanks were the FT-17, so you can how the match started for them. And nobody runs Bomber even though that map is heaven for knocking out armor and mass infantry murder with the gunner, faggots just pick Trench Fighters or Ground Support planes to farm infantry and completely leave tanks alone
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>>171085308
Red pill me on RSC
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>>171082441
>Why does everyone seem to cry about Soissons?
haven't played operations mode but 4 tanks on each side is fucking turbo aids. and with invincible planes on top of that the map is pure cancer
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>>171085665
there is no red pill, all TSNP weapons suck
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>>171085665
Has a pretty good 2-hit kill range, but fucking retarded nasty ass visual recoil that gets even worse when you're shot at

Learn to use the Selb M1916 Marksman & Auto Revolver combo instead
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>>171085524
In the Soissons part of Beyond the Marne, attackers get SIX tanks. The defenders get at least one, too.
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Anyone know of where those big arty guns for the DLC are supposedly placed? I've been wanting to try one out but I don't know where they are much less what they look like.
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>>171086105
They get 6 only when the map starts, after that they get 4
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>>171085524
>tfw we will never get a battlefield without planes
>tw there is no server up right now titled "no planes"
what are some gamemodes that don't have planes?
I hate planes and the people flying them so much it's unhealthy
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>>171086172
they're on operations and frontlines gamemodes, for the defenders at objective B usually
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>>171085308
Is it bad that I'm fucking pissed that Battlefield Hardline died on /bfg/ in a couple of weeks? Now something far worse comes out, and /bfg/ talks about it ever since. Fucking cringed.
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>>171086459
The standard infantry only modes like Team Deathmatch, Domination, and War Pigeons. Former two have Elite Sentry kits though for some stupid fucking reason, so I avoid those now like the plague

Frontlines (DLC exclusive) is the new Infantry Only hotness, basically 16v16 Conquest/Rush hybrid. No elites, no vehicles except Calvary on 2/4 maps which is fine because Calvary isn't actually retarded
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>>171086804
Hardline was dead on arrival, nobody wanted it, nobody asked for it.
the game is painfully average and i feel robbed after spending $20 on it.
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>>171086804
I remember when hardline came out. I was working in the countryside with no internet so I postponed buying it. when I came back after a week all my friends who bought it were back to playing bf4.
to be honest, I don't think I've met a single person who liked hardline
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>>171086579
Was it added to all maps or just the DLC?
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>Finally done with the 20 mp18 headshots assignment

thank fucking jesus

DICE doesn't even play their game

>>171085976
>medic revives the guy
>panic switch aim between the two, trying to headshot them both, kill neither
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>>171086957
>>171087127
>has the best combat since BF:BC2
>has some of the best gun selection in the history of Battlefield
>don't have to deal with Anti-tank jets like the warthog fucking killing everyone all the time like in BF4, even though I like the Stealth Jets
>first Battlefield to have maps that take mainly in the United States, ie Miami and Los Angeles
>best music in any First Person Shooter, even better than GTA V
>better graphics than BF4
>better sounds than BF4
>faster gameplay than BF4 not counting Warthog shit
>zipline and grappling hook (made in Sweden)
>snipers don't take 2 shots to fucking kill someone all the time, still you could just use the Scout Elite and score easy headshots
>above average DLC for a Battlefield game
>has more interesting game mods than any Battlefield game
>pick-up weapons aren't overpowered as fuck
>environmental destruction don't completely destroy the game like in Siege of Shanghai while also being far better
>cool easter eggs
>small firearms can damage vehicles, including helicopters
>good currency system
>and better hit detection
I can keep on fucking going, just try me.
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Why didn't they just Call BF1 "Battlefield 1918"
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>tfw 150 minute frontlines
Fucking hell that was draining. I got a massive headache from it too.
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>>171087658
>I can keep on fucking going, just try me.

It wasn't a battlefield game. No open wide maps, no tanks, no serious air game.. Unappealing to most BF players. They should have released it as a seperate game.
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>>171089262
I dont get the point of the mode

16 vs 16 is fucking stupid
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>>171089382
Agreed. Why 16 too? There's always one person out of the squad which is pretty fucking silly
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>>171089258

Because there never was a bf1 (1942 was first) and its world war one. Also apparently sponsorsheckels from xbox one. But the last bit is a rumor..
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>>171089414

They should fucking scale the squads.. They should have from the start. Literally the first 16v16 test game should have made it obvious it needs 4 man squads..
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>>171087658
>has more interesting game mods than any Battlefield game
this.

Heist was so much fun, admittedly i never actually played hardline for much more than the beta but that was such fun and tense and loved the verticallity of going up a building and zipplining and then parachuting to catch the robbers.

and then the speeding around in the cars with the money bag being chased.

so much fun.

but

>>171089367

i think is what most peoples problems were, a battlefield game that wasn't set in the military
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>>171089367
>They should have released it as a seperate game.

except they did
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>>171087658
is this bait, almost everything you said is either a personal preference or flat out lie
>best gunplay
bf4 had that and im not sure how dice managed to pull that off consediring gunplay isn't battlefield's strongest suit.
>i don't like to deal with underpowerd jets that barely pose a threat to ground troops
noted
>better graphics, sounds etc..
not gonna even argue with that.
>faster gameplay means better
if anything, battlefield is at its best when its a bit more slower paced..
>environmental destruction don't completely destroy the game like in Siege of Shanghai while also being far better
and this is where i stop, siege of shanghai was barely even destructible, it didn't even have rubble destruction
what on earth are you on about?
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Whats the best soundtrack and why is it Flight School ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEpoyI99PMI
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>>171087524
>mfw trying to get headshots done with the mp18 for the ribbley robbley
THIS IS HORRIBLE
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>>171085976
and people say COD spawns suck
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>>171090027
BF4 together with BF1 have the worst gunplay in the history of the BF franchise. BF3 was the highest point in the series when it comes to gunplay.
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>>171090790
ah yes, that silky smooth 15hz tickrate gunplay. how could other bf games even compete?
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>>171090790
explain

isn't BF4 just a copy of BF3 ?
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For the headshot requirement does it have to be a killshot or do I only need to wound the head?
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>>171090218
The new end of round theme is goat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pN3BYTv5YLA
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>>171090893
Nope, serious rebalancing of gun mechanics. BF4 had a ridiculous loss of accuracy during long bursts, much less accurate tap firing, plus all around less damage on guns. Essentially a precursor of the "gun balance" in BF1, trying to force guns into certain engagement distances and longer TTK.
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>>171087658
everything in your post pretty much says "I should really be playing call of duty instead of battlefield"
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is the zombie room on fort vaux still there
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>>171090934
Killshot. Have fun.
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>>171091078
good buildup tension, good soundtrack at the end but not really a victory soundtrack.
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>>171090934
Needs to be a kill via headshot. The MP18 optical isn't really a bad gun, but permanently forcing headshots will only frustrate you, so go for it only when you surprise someone.
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>>171091165
>>171091532
Thanks.

F-fuck
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>>171089258
they are trying to make everybody forget pre BC2 Battlefields existed. Watch the next game be called Battlefield 2
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>>171090218
>>171091078

https://youtu.be/43FXaG1x5Ac?t=9m12s
That track on Verdun always gives me goosebumps
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This is the best rendition of the Battlefield theme across the series:

https://youtu.be/rX-3b1DK-4s
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FUCKING AIRCHAVS THIS IS SO RETARDED NOTHING BUT OTHER PLANES CAN POSE A THREAT TO THEM FUCK THIS SHIT
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Haven't played bf1 since first month of release

Have they balanced this shit yet?
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>>171091752
AA really is completely fucking useless now. I hate airfags so goddamn much, they have been a real plague since BF3
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>>171091802
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>171091802
>Have they balanced this shit?
HA
HAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>171091752
>spawn
>get blown up by plane
>be running to objective
>get blown up by plane
>be standing still
>get blown up by plane

>>171091802
>balance
desu i don't know what everyone's problem is, imo every gun is overpowered and normal mode is like hardcore, unlike COD where playing hardcore was a must for me, people die in a few bullets with whatever gun you're using
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>>171091802
What do you mean? They rebalanced some of the guns and grenades at least
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>>171091921
>people die in a few bullets with whatever gun you're using

Are we even playing the same game? Aside from bolt action rifles and the automatico, all guns in this game have an absurdly long TTK. Especially compared to BF4.
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>>171092040
>automatico
>few bullets
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Is the DLC worth it? I'm still not sure whether I should buy it.
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>>171092109
Automatico kills fast, that was the point autistico
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>>171092360
might as well buy a new game for the price of the season pass

>>171092415
>not being able to handle the bantz
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>>171091752
>Pilot goes 71-0 uncontested
>killed 3 times by said pilot
>still topped the score board
Fuck me maybe I should learn to fly, fuck this boots on the ground bullshit.
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>>171092360
If you like Operations then I'd say go for it, because bot hare really fun.
Also the new guns are neat.
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I wonder what Russia will get that carries over to the base game, like the St.-Chamond?

Tsar tank will be a behemoth, so it would probably be some kind of plane, armoured car, or cavalry.
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>>171092673
Cavalry lance probably. Russia didn't really have that many domestic designs during WW1
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>>171092771

They have some flying boats, but I think that would be more suitable for the amphibious expansion.
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>>171092673
the dlc tank can be used on vanilla maps?
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SUPER AIRCHAVS TAKE 'EM DOWN

WATCH THOSE ATTACK PLANES
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>>171093170

Yes.

Really stimulates the prefrontal cortex of poorfags.
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>>171085308
The RSC is rubbish. The Autoloading 8 factory is better honestly
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Anyone used the new shotgun yet?
Is it just a gun in between the Model 10 and M97?
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>>171093324
Please let pic related be the Apocalypse DLC
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>New report emblem feature
>Can't see the emblem on console at the end of the game
>Can only see it when you are killed by them.
I wish there was an option to use my emblem over my crappy account picture.
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>>171093572
It can oneshot a full health player, but you need to hit them with all pellets. Imo it's not worth using over the M10
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>>171093572
Fewer projectiles but more damage each projectile so basically you need to be more accurate to oneshot but you can oneshot a longer distance.
Some YouTube homo called it a """""skill""""" shotgun but that's of course a load of horse shit. There is no such thing as a skill shitgun except for maybe the slug (and that's a big maybe after the buff)
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>>171093949
Slug is definitely the best shotgun. but it still isn't very skilled intensive. Its got a tiny hipfire window and a great 1 shot range after the buff.
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>>171093635
Apocalypse DLC will be Air Superiority mode, with a twist: limited plane slots, and everyone else spawns on the ground without weapons
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>>171094017
I don't get why people even keep asking for Air Superiority. It's always been shit in Battlefield. In BF1 it'd be just Bomber Killers and Dogfighters
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So how do you even kill aircucks now?
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>>171094159
get into a plane before the guy with the computer decked out to load into the game first and dogfight them
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>>171094159
bomber killer outturns the trench cucks
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>>171094159
By hoping your pilots bother to go after enemy ones or sitting in an artillery truck for half an hour.
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>>171094159
Dogfight or make sure its your friend on the vent for the other team because AA isn't going to help you anymore.
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>>171094159
Get a friend
Take MG15s
Remove airchavs
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>>171094440
Its says something when a team game can become a one man game with the help of a trench fighter. Remove teamwork
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>>171094159
MG 15 Suppressives
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ribeyrolles is absolutely savage
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IF I SEE ANOTHER FUCKING AIRPLANE AGAIN
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>>171096038
are you going to explode?
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>>171094159
aa truck kills them good. not sure what all the complaints are when you have an easy to use hard counter right there
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EROBERN DAS ZIEL!
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>>171097740
3
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>>171098312
3mb in 2017, seriously?
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>>171098417
blame moot
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>>171091078
>not https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WC1DLT1s_hw
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>>171091151
What?
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>>171098863
It should have been this
https://youtu.be/AEMkKdj8VYM
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>grenade spam is worse than ever before
>airchavs are going on 100+ killstreaks
>some maps are horribly balanced for certain teams
Great job listening to community feedback Dice.
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>>171103541
B-b-but...Symthic balancing.
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>>171103541
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Page 10.
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Anyone else but me always have trouble remembering map names and/or gun names? I have maybe a third of them down and I've been playing for ~200 hours.
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>>171107403
nope, pretty sure i can remember every map and weapon, even the new ones.
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Why do I have to get kills with the Lewisgun suppressive in order to unlock the chauchat lightweight. Why not the lewisgun lightweight? This doesn't make sense.
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Does anyone else not get notifications any more when there is a game to join when you are in a party?
Latest update seems to have broken more things than it has fixed
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>>171108173
>that fuckin' armored car

Based.

>>171108050
Weaponized autism.

>>171108587
>having friends to play with
Must be nice.
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How is the Lebel in the Infantry variant?

I've lately spent my time playing Domination with the Gewehr 95, interested in how it stacks up.
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>>171108173
It's not that hard and it's worth it
I did it in an hour

the absolute fucking worst challenge is the one for the ribeyrolles
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Why is bf1 so dead on the pc? There's only like 4 full servers total, half the game modes are dead, operations are dead, does no one really play this shit?
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>>171093858
why would you want to report peoples' emblems?
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>>171110303
because swastikas, ISIS and dicks are not okay?
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>>171110254
no idea what are you talking about, there are shitton of full conquest servers, operations 40p is kinda dead but 64p is alive and well..
can't talk about the other modes.
reset your filter
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anyone else struggle to find a server with the new maps?

for some reason i can only ever find like 2
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>>171111707
Is 40 player ops even worth playing?
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>>171086921
>Frontlines (DLC exclusive) is the new Infantry Only hotness
???
all the new dlc maps have tanks except verdun
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>>171112592
Because tanks weren't around for that battle
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>>171111985
the new infantry operation should be played with 40. 64 is a retarded clusterfuck
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>>171113226
Fuck off. 64 players is literally the only way to do WW1 human wave attacks justice.
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>>171113523
>spawn
>on fire
>spawn
>in gas cloud
>spawn
>3 mortar shells rain on you
>spawn
>5 snipers shoot you
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>>171110125
I just prefer the lightweight. And it would just make more sense since the chauchat is lightweight.
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>>171113715
Sounds like you need to git gud.

Verdun heights in devil's anvil 64 player is literally the best map in the game now.

>No tank shitters
>No plane cucks
>Artillery
>Massive human waves fighting in the mud and you barely see your opponent
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So what maps would likely come with the last DLC pack? Would they be battles that had a really high body count like Passchendaele, or something else?
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>>171113927
Somme.

It was the begining of the end of the central powers.

Then we'll probably get some SPECULATE map
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>>171114056
Somme sounds like a fun time if they do it right.

I do hope Passchehdaele gets included, if only for the chance to play as a Canadian.
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>>171111707
Reset servers, looked for 64 op, joined nothing but empty servers
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>>171114227
Yeah. Ypres in general came to signify the sheer shit fest that was WW1. It would be a nice way for Dice to set the tone for how WW1 typically was at it's worst. Thought they already did a hell of a job with devil's anvil.
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>>171113927
Armenian genocide
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>>171114480
>Order of the Apocalypse
>Shoot 10 civilians
>Gas 20 civilians in one round
>Taunt 5 children with bread in one life
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Thanks for the XP event DICE.
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>20 headshots with the MP18
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>>171114867
Do tell.
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>>171114941
>2XP event
>squad boost
>2.5x multiplier for decisive victory in Operations
>Verdun is heavily skewered towards defenders and a good team can hold easily if they make use of backcaps and high ground

Basically glorified farming.
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>>171115135
>tfw I can't wait to get off of work to do this.

Thanks.
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Can someone tell me why I'm not getting a stable FPS? I was in a 64 player bf1 server on giant's shadow and it was going between 35-60 at all times on high/ultra. I thought a 1060 was more than enough to get 60 FPS at 1080p?
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Is there anywhere where I can read all the codex entries without unlocking them?
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>>171115415
>tfw play at QHD on a 1070 and constantly get that little FPS warning logo

What frame rate causes that to kick in, anyway?
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>>171115839
I'm sorry, what's QHD?
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>>171116153
Oops, sorry...

QHD (Quad High Definition) is a resolution standard for high-end monitors, televisions and mobile devices. QHD is specified as 2560x1440

Lazy way of saying 2560x1440.
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What game mode do/did you guys play to get the 20 headshots for MP18 thing done?
OPs are way too fast and hectic to ever try and aim carefully for the head.
Why the fuck do I have to unlock DLC that I paid for anyway? This isn't the same as an unlock system in a barebones game, this is DLC that I paid for, that I also have to unlock after paying for it.
Fucking garbage.
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>>171093324
I see the autismo from last thread is back
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>>171108173
>Ramming speed, gentleman! Grab something!
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>>171117038
Bitter shitter that needs to git gud detected
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>>171112842
yes i know
the anon i quoted was saying frontlines is infantry only, which it is not
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>>171117456
I have a 2.0+ infantry KD.
I'm good enough.
But SMG headshots are literally up to luck.
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>>171117038
I got all 20 in one CQ on Suez, pop their head when they roll over the dune of charlie
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>>171117550
Then quit bitching and be patient t and you'll get it in no time with a KD that impressive, sweetie.
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>>171117550
wew lad watch out total bad ass over here.
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>>171117740
It doesn't change the fact that I have to unlock DLC content that I already paid for.
I don't -want- to use the shitty MP18 optical, but I do want to use the new fucking gun that I paid real life money for.

>>171117904
>shitter
>no
>WEW LAD U SO BADASS
Brain damage?
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>>171118060
Kinda in agreement with you lad. I was excited for some new guns and only got what, eight? all of which I have to unlock using shit I don't enjoy using. Half the games I've been are are now flooded with mortars and other junk related to the challenges.
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>>171118060
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>Why can't I use the toy gun in a game with more toy guns that didnt historically exist in such numbers that I use for a mini interanal game to add more life to the game that I am good at
>I paid moneeeeeeyyyyyy
>ReEEEEeeEEEEeeee

Holy fuck. I bet you hit your desk in anger when ever you die from a shotgun too.
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>>171118385
>when you're so caught up on being "right" on the internet that you go out of your way to be as retarded as possible and actually try to defend gated DLC content
You are literally /v/ incarnate.
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>>171118586
Hey retard. The new guns are literally better than the stock weapons which vary in balance with regards to stats.

You have to fuckin earn them you jack ass. Not just pay money.
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>>171118756
>You have to fuckin earn them you jack ass. Not just pay money.

Why couldn't they just be a warbonds thing?
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>>171118756
>The new guns are literally better than the stock weapons
Except they're not lol

>to fuckin earn them
Just like you had to "earn" your automatico, right? :^)
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>>171118901
>only level 5

Wat.

Is it true that most good pilots use that third person view, though? I hardly ever airchav.
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>>171118823
Because literally everyone has thousands of them.

>>171118884
Per class they are. I mainline MP 18. Autistico is too shit at intermediate and long ranges.
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>>171119130
>Because literally everyone has thousands of them.


Yeah, exactly...need to put them to use somehow.

For what it's worth I'm on the fence about the challenges. I like that it presses me to use guns I really hadn't before but when everyone is doing it at the same time or when one of the challenges is particularly time consuming it is an annoyance.
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>>171119107
In the CTE, none of your stats from normal servers carries over. You have a separate "soldier" in CTE servers, so you start from square 1.
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>>171118884
I don't have the Sjogren intertial or label yet, but the ribbyrolls is the only one I like.
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>>171119357
Whoops. Sorry, an idiot and didn't see "CTE"

But is it true regarding the chase came view for max pilot points?
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>>171119550
Do you mean 1st vs 3rd person? I rarely am in a plane, but when I am I use 3rd.
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>>171119338
Yeah. I'm mildly interested in using the weapons but I couldn't be assed to use the brenet telescopic as support. I figure I'll unlock them at some point. I'm not so autistic that I NEED TO HAVE THEN CAUSE MUH MUNNY AND I HAVE TO HAVE THEM BEFORE THE NORMIES REE
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Why is this allowed?
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>>171119107
> use that third person view
Yup, vehicles fov maxout and 3d view 95% of time.
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how's the new non-behemoth tank? haven't got around using it yet. is the pigeon artillery good?
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>>171120995
Chamond is pretty decent, I do far better with it than I do with the heavy tank. The pigeon artillery slaughters, I drive through an objective, release the pidgeon and coast through (since the chamond doesn't really stop when you don't move it, if that makes sense.) The fact that it coasts is good for repairs too, drive backwards (memes aside, the tank actually handles driving backwards better than going forward) and repair, you coast like another 10 yards on level ground.
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>>171117132
no bully pls
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rigmarole best gun
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m95 best gun
Other opinions may not apply
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>>171121460
Adding to this, the chamond has 6 shells loaded up instead of 5(?) for the heavy tank, the sloped armor in the front leads to a lot of ricochets if you are 1v1ing another tank, and it can turn on a dime. Only downside I really notice that since it coasts, it's a little more difficult to stay still to get a good shot on something, and the narrow track base (lengthwise) leads to a bumpy ride and difficult shots on the move.
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Almost captured second sector on Verdun Heights tonight. Please make an orderly line for autographs.
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>>171122285
I won that Operation on attack today. If the elite classes aren't picked by retards it's not that hard. The SMG sentry alone can buttfuck a point.
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>>171121460
>>171121916
The hell's a chamond?
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>>171122775
The St. Chamond, the assault tank. I just called it the chamond, easier to say
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Can someone explain to me in detail how the fuck im supposed to play the medic class in bf1?
I played a shitload of bf3 and was quite good but now I don't have a clue on what to do.
It seems to me that the weapons are really shit and harshly punish me for getting into firefight that are not midrange.
I also can't really push with my team for the same reason or I just stand around with the syringe handing out bandages.
please help I don't really have fun at the moment even though I barely have 30h played so far
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>>171124169
use autoloading 8 .35 marksman and stay behind the assaults
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>in 1 round, get 15 kills with Benet Mercie
Fuck
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>>171125010
That's incredibly easy
I used to use madsen, never tried benet mercie after I unlocked the bar, but I forgot how fun it was.
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>>171125092
I got 8 kills over 25 minutes

It made me mad
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How the hell are the Germans even supposed to get anywhere in verdun?

Everyone get slaughtered in the first minute trying to get through the forest.

I've won so many times as the French and I've never been able to win as the Germans.

Now I've just been switching teams every match to see if we can actually get Germany to win for once.

How is this map so broken?
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>>171127171
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>>171125010
you have to use the bipod, then it turns into a fucking laser gun
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>>171127523
Doesn't seem to help on the uphill portion.
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Guys, hear me out I found a way to fuck with Airchavs. what ya gotta do is get a mobile AA truck, wait out side of their spawn, and when one appears blast his retard ass outta the sky
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>>171129349
>guys I found a way to deal with <thing>
>just shoot it with <other thing> lol
thanks bud
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>>171124169
The weapons are actually pretty good, just don't spam them too hard
I like the selbstlader marksman the most, allows me to get kills all over the place
Try not to engage people in very close range unless you're using that sweeper gun
Then just find a decent squad and rez and heal forever
Consider using smoke nades for tactics
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would it be retarded to try to play this on a potato?
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>>171131415
4 cores, 8 gb ram,650ti/660 and u can play.
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>currently in a 2 hour long frontlines game
>both teams have managed to push up to each others MCOMs and actually both managed to destroyed one each
>each team only has a single MCOM
>now we went back to having a stalemate over the middle point back and forth
Verdun Heights is fucking hell, operation or not.
Equally as retarded on frontlines.
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Is there a way to customize my vehicle besides in the match when I'm racing to select it?
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>>171127862
Managed to do it after operations.

Still couldn't outsnipe snipers on Sinai though
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>>171132885
Join an empty server and do it there
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>>171131793
Can you call artillery even if you're not fighting over the telegraph?
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Origin down for anyone else ?
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>>171129349
Or supports can actually do their job and aim those machine guns up at the sky.

I have lost count of the number of planes my MG15 has brought down.
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I didn't think DICE could make an Operation worse than Oil of Empires, but holy shit is Beyond the Marne terrible.
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>>171133797
>tfw just lost as attacker on Oil of Empires
>final objective at Sinai, almost took it
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>>171133797
What's bad about it?
If anything Devil's Anvil is the bad one, because BtM is actually doable.
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>>171134040
Do people play 64 of oil empire? I never find a game playing it and never got beyond four people joining.
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>>171134413
I just use Quickmatch for my operations
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>>171134346
It's just open fields with tank and sniper spam. The Behemoth is forced to suicide rush the sector, take it and then die because there's nowhere to hide.
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>>171133797
>On the second sector in front of the A point enemy tanks spawn on an open field more or less right in front of the attackers
>take the tank hunter landship and spawnrape tanks the entire game, killing them as they spawn with both gunners going ape on them
>friend takes a bomber and finishes off any tanks that don't get killed by me
>tfw get the MLE Extended in one game
>even if you lose the first map it's borderline impossible to lose on Rupture third sector due to the enemy team not being able take all three flags without you contest/backcapping with minimal effort

Beyond the Marne is the best op but only if you defend.
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>>171134413
I get an instant full operation no matter which one I select. Move out of Africa, anon.
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>>171135349
>teamwork
>communication
>competent pilots and tank drivers
That's game winning stuff on any map desu
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>>171133797
>>171135349

Out of about two dozen games I have only seen france win Rupture one time. And even then it was fought tooth and nail and o ntheir last attempt.
If they lose just one attempt on the first map it's basically unwinnable fro mthe get go.
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official map ranking for conquest
rupture > soso > fort de vaux > verdun heights
anyone got a link to the end of the round ost? that that "peaceful" one, idk how to describe it but everybody knows it
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>>171137326
devil's anvil maps > beyond the marne maps
your list is backwards
yes I know you said conquest
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for operations
verdun (power gap) the rest
this map was obviously designed mainly for operations (as do all bf1 maps)
but it feels like conquest wasn't even in mind until last second, this is probably why we never played it in the CTE.
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>trench raider spots you
>bayonet charge him
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BF2143 fucking when? with focus on Titan mode..
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>>171139134
As weird as this may sound, I feel like BF1 was a test run for BF2143. Or rather, the Behemoth system in particular.
Imagine all the possible Behemoths in 2143. Flying Titans, HUGE moving tank fortresses, bi-pedal mechs the size of a Metal Gear Rex, maybe even fucking Gundam looking mechas.
There's so much more they could do with Behemoths in a future setting compared to WW1.
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>discord shitters literally unironically think the chauchat is garbage, think the BAR is "unusable" post nerf, worship the lewis gun, and complain about having to get 15 kills in a round

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time

Hilarious shit if you remember the BF4 schism between FREE and BFG. Now they're the ones full of absolute bottom barrel shitters with retardedly bad opinions and without a single good player among them
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Does the Autoloading 8 challenge really have to be done with the factory version?
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>>171141906
It it says so on the challenge, yes?
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>>171141975
Man, that makes me sad.
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So anon, do you agree with Reddit?
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>>171142381
theyre all easy except for the ribeyrolles, which is tedious and frustrating and time consuming more than hard
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Huh, playing with you memers is actually kinda fun. I should find more of you in the wild.
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did autorepair get nerfed?
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>>171135706
>I live near San Francisco

How did you know where I lived?
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>>171115415
Single channel ram. Get another strick of 8g ram and make it dual channel

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_one/comments/5ctf8q/psa_dualchannel_ram_matters_not_how_much_you_have/
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>>171115415
>windows 10
It's because Windows is busy uploading all your personal info to the botnet.
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New weapon stats are up on symthic lads
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>>171146865
they are shit
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holy fuck since when is premium $65 canadian

that's seriously insane
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>>171142549
took me like two and a half matches to get the 20 headshots, I really don't understand how you guys thought it was so bad.
feels like it's mostly autisticos and shotgun fags complaining since this is the first time they've had to aim since they bought the game.
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>>171139415
they've been teasing 2143 since 2011, i highly doubt it will ever come any time soon considering people want a ww2 shooters
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>>171149048
because it changes the way you have to play which you don't have to do for any other assignment. I was basically ignoring all kills and objectives unless I could potentially get a kill for the assignment. headshots are not a problem, finishing as a headshot is a problem on a terribly inaccurate smg in a game where headshots arent something you strive for on anything but snipers and SLRs. I lost a lot of 1v1s that I would've easily gotten if I didn't have to be so careful about finishing with a HS.

>had to aim

that would implying aiming is a major factor in the assignment when its not. The optical sight is so shitty that youre not going to be finishing people with headshots at anything close to medium-long range. Its just not practical or feasible at all and youre relying on luck. The real way to do the assignment and how I got it done in 1 round is to run up close and hipfire at heads on a map like fort vaux - but the vast majority are not going to know this and are going to spend a frustrating 3-4 rounds being a drag on their team as they use a shit weapon they dont like. Thankfully I had to CTE to learn this
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>>171149048

>2 and a half matches

No it took you much longer than that, don't make shit up to seem cool. That's not just 20 headshots but 20 kills on which the killshot is a headshot with a low rpm low damage SMG not built for headshots.

The issue here is that the gun is garbage and as mentioned SMGs shouldn't be going for headshots regardless so that part of the assignment makes no sense. It loses to every other assault weapon up close, can't do anything at longer ranges, and can't even out dps medics or lmgs at mid range. It's a terrible weapon in every regard that no one would ever want to use.
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>>171085308
so, who's idea was it to make the German announcer in the new Operations sound so obnoxious?
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>>171150632
>The optical sight is so shitty
almost never aimed down sight the hipfire is plenty accurate
>>171150812
>No it took you much longer than that, don't make shit up to seem cool.

>enter Fort 24/7 server
>aim in the general direction of someones head while shooting at them
>literally like one in every three kills is a headshot
>also good chunk of those headshots is just coming up behind someone either sniping somewhere or just being retarded in general

GIT
GUD
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>the AA can still down a plane if he's absolutely retarded
has anyone notified DICE headquarters? this shit needs to be nerfed more
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>>171152086
>AA killing a bomber

Nice chinese hack there buddy, reported to EA
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>>171152934
>>171152086

He only did like 20 damage to it.
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>>171152086
>bomber is as low as a bomber will ever fly
>almost all direct hits
>AA overheats before it even destroys the bomber
if that bomber was slightly higher you wouldn't have stood a chance.
no plane conquest servers fucking when?
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>>171153114
it wasn't that bad. I'm not going to add all the numbers but I'm pretty sure the bomber was full health
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>>171153786
i counted 64 bomber damage but there is a second where it is unreadable over the white clouds
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>64p conquest
>vanilla maps (minus all desert maps) + French maps in a rotation
>increased vehicle respawn timers
>ban chinks on sight

when is a rich /bfg/er going to capitalize on this million dollar idea?
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>>171154521
You forgot no planes.
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>that French flag skin St. Chamond
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>tfw just finished a 90 minute frontline game.

We got the first enemy MCOM in the first 10 minutes. Then spent the next 70 fighting between A-B-C. Only won because an enemy squad got bored and refused to defend.

Get on the fucking point retards, even if it's locked. Half the team stayed at the old point for 2-3 minutes it was fucked.
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>>171150812
>No it took you much longer than that, don't make shit up to seem cool
just remembered I had saved a video from my first round of trying to headshot and that was in verdun heights
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>>171154521

>no desert maps

Can we make a Sinai exception? The others are shit.
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why live?
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I don't like losing to French people
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>>171086459
Back to basics
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>>171157401
back to basics has tanks and planes
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I've learnt that trying to get the 64th slot is a bad idea because it's always someone who has just rage quit right before the end of the round because their team is 600 tickets behind.

>>171157518

No it doesn't.
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name a battlefield where planes were in it and werent absolute aids
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>>171157807
1942
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>>171157807
3 and 4
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reading r/battlefield_live is quite amusing

>redditfags who have spent their free time writing out paragraphs of suggestions on how to improve and tweak the changes in cte because they thought DICE actually gave a fuck are foaming at the mouth that literally no input was taken from them and the CTE patch went through unchanged.
>DICE are full damage control pretending they actually read the suggestions and they care what the "community" thinks.
>DICE saying flat out lies that grenadespam has gone down like they don't know battlefieldtracker exists

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_live/comments/5zglou/this_game_will_die_if_you_continue_to_ignore_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_live/comments/5zmfbu/why_wasnt_insert_feedback_fixed/
https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_live/comments/5zmctu/weapon_usage_data_is_the_proof_that_grenade_spam/
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>>171158304

They were pretty bad.

Artillery was the worst in 42.
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>>171159626
does the official forum even have a use anymore?
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>>171160402
>forum
Yes, people still post on forums and Ricky Martin has a hit single on the radio
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>ultimate edition
>$130
>there are people who actually fucking bought that
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>>171161213

I bought it on sale.

No fucking way would I pay that much.
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>>171161131
groovy
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I enjoy the melee in BF1, even if it's really fucking unbalanced. it's better than BF4's accidental frontknife-guaranteed-death system. Even if the kill was bullshit in BF1, I still think I deserved it.
>>171091102
>>171090893
Completely honest here, I seriously thought that BF4 was just a repaint of BF3. While it's not exactly a complaint; I played it religiously, it just felt almost the exact same for me, save a few extra things.
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What medic gun should I be getting in BF1? People say anything with a scope or optic sucks?
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>>171161213
Don't forget all the people who are buying battlepacks with real money anon. They're all enabling this crap. This might be the last Battlefield I buy, I can deal with stupid cosmetic battlepack crap, the current model isn't even a big deal if you just don't give a fuck and enjoy the skins when they happen to drop for something you use *but:*

Good fucking christ, this patch might be one of the single worst patches I've ever seen in any kind of multiplayer game, just a swathe of across the board AWFUL balance decisions, if this is the kinda shit to expect going forward on future patches I might as well pack my bags now.

No real nerfs to the cancer that is the automatico, no nerfs to the super cancer that are trench fighters, NERFS to the AA guns (lol?), made nade spam worse than it ever was. -_-
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>>171162557
The DLC Medix rifle is pretty good
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>>171163927

But I don't buy DLC
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>>171162557
Autoloading 8 .35 Marksman or Factory
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>>171087524
God these assignments are brutal, I think this was DICE's way of saying Fuq Awf to everyone saying they didn't have much in the ways of a progression system
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What is the best infantry rifle for scout?
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>>171086804
Lol this game is shit. Bf1 is solid and is improving every patch. Back to your dead servers you go!
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>>171166392
Enfield
It's really unfortunate this system they have for rifle damage.
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>>171100306
During the CTE there was a room that had groans that sounded like zombies. Anon wanted to know if that made it live or if the devs were just having a giggle m8
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>>171166806
Yeah I'm just trying to level the scout class to 10, the guns just don't click with me, i love the Mars automatic though
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>>171086804
WHOOP WHOOP, THIS IS THE SOUND OF THE POLICE

>>171163927
Are the new weapons available only if you got the DLC? I have premium so i unlocked them all after some short grinding but i wonder if vanilla people can get them too. If not, i feel kinda cheeky for using the St Chamond on vanilla maps. Half tempted to spawn one and get out so other people can try em,
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>>171167141
I do much better just using the Russian lever with a medium zoom on it. Quick follow up shots.
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>>171110254
Yeah even in the middle of the night I find full servers.. idk anon
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>>171110424
I've seen tubgirl emblems. Man the fuck up soldier
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>>171110424
Whaaaaaat a cuck hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>>171169397

U can report emblem ingame and can't report cheater. Well done.
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>>171169824
Bravo doce
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>>171164229
then you're retarded for buying this game now instead of waiting 4 years when it's all free or for cheap
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>>171171498
> it's all free or for cheap
I got free BF1 CTE on few blank accounts with bug. Where is your god now?
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>>171125010
>1 round

That's ball busting
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>get 5 headshots with the russian 1895 sniper in a round
>it fucking resets if you don't have 10 periscope assists even if you have all 5 kills
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>>171172016
I managed to get it late last night after a few rounds where I slammed my keyboard with 14/15.
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>>171172016
>>171172532
lol i did it easy, got the 15 kills with and the mortar kills in one round, git gud
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>>171172572
Pls no bully

I don't play to git gud, I play to enjoy the sights and sounds of war without having to go to the Middle East
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>>171172806
> sights and sounds of war
Battlefield never was a tactical war shooter nor simulator.
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>>171172987
I said sights and sounds not the actual realistic experience
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>>171166392
m95
No sweetspot, but really fast rate of fire and reload, plus good sights
>sniping moving people all over the map with 1,25x zoom
aw yis
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>>171173047
> sounds
If u prefer kebab sounds, liveleak is waiting for ya bud.
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>>171173151
ILILILILILILILI HAI DEM
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Wait can you unlock the weapons without having the dlc?
I can see the challenges but i havent tried doing them just yet, they look kinda tough
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>>171173686
no
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>>171108173
but the lewis suppressive is way better the lightweight, its like an automatic sniper
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>>171173686
Probably, u can pick up dlc weapon from a dead body.
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>push to Sinai with all 3 battalions still
More like these ruins would warn the turkroaches of me if they could speak
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Is this the most lopsided game /bfg/ has ever seen?

Fort De Vaux btw
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I'm sick of grenade spam
Bring back the old system
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>>171175553
and this is what transpired for pretty much <10 minutes of the map
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>>171150812
Optical is one of the best all round assault weapons pleb
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>>171172519
Do the periscope assists first
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>>171176179
It's a shittier slug
>>
Why the hell do classes grow at different rates
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>>171176351
Except it has a faster ttk at anything over 15m, the new rickrolles is probably the best all round assault weapon now desu
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>>171125010
You know you can just go to operations and get it easy right? Hell, i got the 50 kills for the m95 in one match, PLUS the 5 russian headshots, AND the periscope spots.
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>>171176773
The slug can headshot instakill up to about 50m though
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Why are these headshots so hard to get REEEE
>>
>go on soissons
>decide to try the plane in the new maps
>"oh boy, usually im uncontested in the air because people are scrubs, but since everyone here has premium, im more likely to face quality pilots than usual"
>finish with over 90 kills
>the few times AA should have killed me, i got away
>dice thought, unironically, that they needed nerfing
I feel bad for non airchavs.
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>>171177497
What plane do you use? If you're a fighter pilot, you're a fag m8. Alpha airshitters use the bomber
>playing on Saucissons as well
>using bomber basically uncontested whole operation getting 1 or 2 kills per run
>get a gunner who actually spots
>score a 8 kill bombing run
>enemy team so assblasted they waste not 1 but 2 tank tickets on aa trucks
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>>171178487
>play with people who are not retarded
>spot bomber
>light him up like a christmas tree
>no more bomber
m15 suppressive too stronk
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>>171166392

I'd say Gewehr M95 because you can double tap almost as fast as a pistol.
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Will the other legendary skins look as pretty as the lebel one does?
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>>171178654
I still end up switching to my mars after most hits in close quarters, feels faster and more accurate
God I love the Mars, it's such a great handgun
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>>171178889
>le deagle of ww1
>>
>be better than average
>game "balances" me onto a team bursting at the seams with literal retards
>have to carry unless I can switch early on
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>>171178790
If DICE listened to the community feedback on the current skins being rather boring, minus a few exceptions, then it's a maybe-not
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>load all 8 bullets into lebel
>switch to pistol and back to lebel quickly
>all that extra nonsense skipped
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>>171089898

I mean seperate from the bf franchise. Had they marketed it as just Hardline, the all new cops m robbers modern shooter they might have scored with a new audience.. Now they alienated actual bf fans for not being bf, and non bf fans with the bf name.
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>>171179635

If you're joining games in progress, you're more like to replace a rage quitter who is on the losing team than someone on the winning team.
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>>171180170

That's called animation cancelling.
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>>171177126
Fair one, slug is better in the right hands. I just wouldn't say the optic is shit.
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>>171178487
Fighter pilot is best pilot, fight me cunt. Plus, i was protecting my bomber bro who was wrecking the behemoth tank. I shoot down all enemy planes, i throw flares around like its the 4th of july, and i anally ravage infantry who disrespect me by trying to take MY mothefucking flag.
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Best kind of melee weapons to use for assault?
Knives? Clubs? Hatchet?
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>>171181426
Hatchet for anything in general, but since Assault are basically the cowadooey kit you're gonna be moving about a lot, so cutting barbed wire is handy
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>>171178487
*unsheathes Bomber Killer*

*Speed Boosts behind u*

heh.... nothin personnel..... Jerry....

*kills u*
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Trench Fighter shouldn't have sights for his darts
Swooping in for kills is pretty fun, but just nuking everything from orbit without any practice is silly
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>>171182605
>Trench Fighter
Should be deleted from the game
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>>171158720
>3
fuck no, the rush jets just casually destroyed 2-3 tanks in one pass, while the conquest jets were untouchable rocket snipers
>4
on maps with stealth jets only
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>>171175553
posted this a few threads back from the CTE.

if the Germans capture all the flags the French are doomed to be ass raped at the spawn for the rest of the match since everybody has a clear overview of the french spawn with solid cover.

it's just bad map design
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>>171175553
i never played a one sided match of fort de vaux.. but then again, i barely played it.
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>>171183003
>bf3 air game
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some faggot just accused me of killstealing. here i am thinking i'm ptfo and helping my team out
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>>171181426
I use Hatchet for everyone, because it deals high damage and can break wire. I was running with Knives for a long time, but whenever I return to them now I miss the ability to break wire.
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What's the best tanker gun and why is it the Frommer Stop auto?

I just love blurping people in the face with it.
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>>171185289

Literally the Glock 1918. I like extended 1911 too (pilot rank 10) but mostly for aesthetics.
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>Soissons
>playing with 3 buddies, all pick Assaults with mines
>we mine town approaches and parts of the fields
>that assblastedness as the enemy loses 5 of their tanks to our mines
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>"Oh shit the Trench Raider is trapped in there"
>"Lets get him!"
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>>171159626
>lets fix grenade spam!!
>by adding an automatic resupply function without the need of ammo crate/pouch
who thought this was a good idea should be fired
im beginning to think that the people who are in charge of this are genuinely retarded
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>>171159626
>We are also getting a lot of feedback regarding grenade resupply issues, and the perception is that grenade spam has gotten worse. Looking at data from before the update and comparing it to data after the update, grenade usage (both number of thrown grenades and kills) has gone down.
This is why I fucking hate DICE balancing. They don't play their game, they always just look at MUH DATA and we end up with the bullshit we got.
>>
the data from battlefieldtracker is just overall stats, DICE has stats for every mode, map, etc

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_live/comments/5zmfbu/why_wasnt_insert_feedback_fixed/dezancv/
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>>171186503
guess planes being broken must be everyone's imagination
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>>171186543

that reply was in ref to gren spam, planes are definitely broken. i'm convinced it's the behemoths that fuck with their balance which is why they constantly tinker with it
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>>171175553
I've seen worse
>Verdun Heights 40 players defence
>half the enemy team quit so there's only 10 of them most of the game
>hold all three battalions at the first flag
>people suggest pulling back so they can at least capture the first sector
>even with half the team stood at the back of the map they don't take the first flag more than once
>end of round screen and the French (defenders) captured more flags than the Germans did.
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>>171186543
>>171186658

What makes planes in bf1 more broken than helicopters in bf4? It mostly just seem to be non-pilots getting mad at something they can't do..
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>>171186769
>complaining about map balance when other team is missing soldiers

>>171186797
saw them take out a behemoth in like 3 minutes. partly the defending team was to blame but that's pretty ridiculous. i don't even use AA anymore, it's range and damage have been nerfed so hard they're literally useless now.
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>>171115415
BF1 is heavily CPU dependent due to the 60hz servers and player count.
When it comes to minimum fps there's actually a huge difference between CPUs in this game, and the dips usually occur when youre trying to aim in an intense firefight.
An upgrade to a i7 6700/7700 would give you a huge boost. You might as well get some high speed DDR4 RAM as well.
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>>171186797
Anyone could annoy choppers by equipping Stinger/IGLA, and really skilled people could take them down instantly with the RPG/SMAW and SRAW

In BF1, you have basically the equivalent of Attack Jets being able to free farm infantry easily, and the only way infantry can retaliate is by shooting small arms. Small arms is no substitute for the area denial, damage and cc MANPADs can inflict

>It mostly just seem to be non-pilots getting mad at something they can't do..

Piloting a plane has never been this easy in BF, killing infantry is as simple as flying over them and dropping darts/bombs. Having to resort to a vehicle to get rid of the same vehicle is also just terrible game design; if a vehicle is able to easily harass and kill infantry, it should be just as vulnerable to infantry. Thank god DICE is taking baby steps to address this with the 2nd Emergency Repair nerf on tanks, but planes remain just as broken as they were while the AA was nerfed 3x in a row
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>>171186908
>11 people quit because they couldn't make it to the first flag in 150 tickets

Sounds fine to me desu
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tfw trench raider get cucked by the other elites
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Anyone else having performance issues after the new patch? I was able to play maxed out with stable 60fps before the patch, not my framerate jumbles all over the place seemingsly at random, even when I look at just the ground.
Reducing graphics doesn't help by much.
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>>171186908
>take out a behemoth in like 3 minutes.

The airship dies pretty quick anyway, doesn't it?

>>171187906

I agree that it became a bit easier, but lockons were easy to avoid in bf4 (ecm -> below radar -> loop around) and skilled rpg/smaws were few and far between.

AA trucks and stationairy AAs deny more area than manpads did (though nerfing them again seems silly).

People need to shoot planes more with small arms. Works better than you'd think, especially the mg15 or m95 infantry (disables parts like nobody's business)
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>>171186908
There is a plane made just for taking out blimps and it is pretty crap in all other ways.
Barely any plane fags use it because its pretty crap outside killing blimps.
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>>171189497
Even most medic guns can easily deal 20, 30 damage to a passing plane with just a little bit of tracking
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>post yfw the Germans actually do pass
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Before my go to support gadgets were pouch + limpet + light at grenade but with pouch nerf I'm not so dure anymore. What do you guys usually run with?
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>>171190303
Pouch + Crate + Smoke Grenade
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>>171190303
I go crossbow(inf) + ammo crate + light at grenade.
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>>171190356
smoke grenades are crap now. don't know why they nerfed it
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>>171190395
I know, but I still love having them
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>>171188953

>LITTLE TRENCH CLUBS

BOO! GET OUT THE BUNKER!

>BIG SENTRY MACHINE GUNS

*CLAPCLAPCLAPCLAP* WOOO! YEAH!
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Why is the *return to battlefield* timer not dependent on which direction you're moving?
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>>171190395

They have an 18s duration and you resupply after 18s. Its not that bad desu
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>>171190395
Smokes needed the nerf, they were way too OP
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So grenades automatically get resupplied now? Even if your not near a crate/pouch?
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is anyone's battlefieldtracker page fucked as well ? my recent games just show absurd spms, games i didnt play or just plain off stats.

also havent played much of the DLC, felt nice, frontlines was decent but needs 20v20 and in one operations there was a wave of sentries on the second battallion - what a load of shit
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>>171190968
Yeah my recent games are all weird too
It seems the score and kills per minute aren't actually per minute and are just the flat amount.
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>>171190968
It's not tracking match length properly and just displaying your total score
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>>171190395
>>171190630
i agree i dont like having just one but it did feel like they resupply faster or something. but still id rather have two of em just because to cover a push or defend youraself from crossfire+advance you sometimes want 2 at once, also the actual smoke cloud isnt really that wide so yreah
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>>171185289
obviously the super shotgun, no contest
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>>171192021
>can't use that thing unless you're a class that gets taken from you upon death
end this exclusive sidearm gimmick
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I'd like an unarmed scout plane that spawns like a regular vehicle that you can use as a taxi, fire your side arm from, and drop grenades.
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>>171192567
Would be cool if any passengers had one of those cameras from the campaign so you could recon enemies from above.
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Why are we still here, lads?
Just to suffer?
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just joined a 64 players frontline server. i have a feeling this match will last forever.
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>>171192962
It will
I was in one that took 150min yesterday and it only ended because like half the players on one side gave up and started throwing smoke grenades at their own telegraph so attackers could finish the game
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>>171192962
Yeah I've noticed frontlines has a tendency to be an endless back and forth between two points depending on the map.
Had a game on Verdun where we fought between B and C for a good while before being pushed all the way back to our
coms and had one destroyed but managed to push all the way back to the enemy side and win after a fucking hour or
more. It was ultimately pretty satisfying and I like the idea of the game mode but they still need to tweak it to avoid that
endless back and forth because people will just inevitably give up. Like make more points and have them cap quicker in
general so it can move more quickly.
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Which RSC version do you guys prefer?
Is there actually any reason to not go with the optical over the regular?
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>>171192754
hipfire, dont aids
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>spawn into a Mark 4 landship
>driver drives away from the fights and flags
>drives off into the distance for some god known reason
>pisses about turning around and doing god knows what
>see the flags go red

why do utter retards get the tanks?
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>>171192754
I had made almost 100 kills total before I had the 20 headshots. That said I actually thought that using the factory automatico sucked far more, that version feels just awkward to shoot.
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>>171194640
ads*
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>>171194737

Char 2C driver got it stuck in the first trench after about 20 seconds.
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>>171190243
>pilot just flies straight into the water after aquiring one, as if he's afk or something
>swims to shore

traitor detected desu
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>>171192384
>M1912 is my gunfu
>exclusive to support
>same with C96 and medic

Really pisses me off, especially since those pistols were ubiquitous in WW1
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ded thread
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>>171196335
>Revive +100
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>>171197568
Just let me die!
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Why does this game ALWAYS put me on the team that is getting horribly rekt?
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>St Patricks Day tomorrow
>no Irish War of Independence DLC where you play as the IRA vs the Black and Tans with WW1 surplus weapons
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>>171197891
Most likely is that players on the losing team are ragequitting (leaving open spots for new players to fill in upon joining the match) while the winning team would have fewer players leaving because they want to keep doing well through successive games, leaving fewer places open for you to join them.
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>>171197706
I need more Italian Support

MORE!
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>>171198356
I'm still waiting on the French qt
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>overcharge for some season pass bs as always
>heres your new guns and maps
>oh btw you cant actually use the new guns, you have to complete these boring fucking challenges first!
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>>171199585
plus that automatico gun is just horrible
>>
>asian tsnp servers infested with hackers too
why did i think that the paywall would actually keep these shitheads out
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>>171177012
Well congratulations you're gud. I only managed to get 16 kills with the Benet Mercie Telescope in 1 operations round because I kept getting headshotted
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>when your team can't hold the most defendable sector on the map for 5 minutes
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>All squads are full apart from one of one person
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>>171201107
>tfw love the game but absolutely shit at it
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>>171176169

>getting shot for not retreating and killing lots of enemies
whatever army did that would deserve to lose
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>>171201316

>all squads are full except two
>theyre both locked with 2/5 and 3/5 players
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>>171201148
>join game
>look at scoreboard, half of team are recons
>quit
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>>171201316

>join that final squad
>it's a hillnigger

>>171204305

I wish there was a way to distinguish 'sniper' from someone moving with the squad and providing flares.
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>>171204832
did ww1 even have sniper rifles? i mean bolt actions with magnifying scopes.

i am not knowledgeable about ww1 weaponry
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>>171205032
yes, hence the "keep your head down" saying

both sides had snipers picking off targets from both trenches

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ww1+sniper&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwix_bely9vSAhVBDMAKHR1EAwIQ_AUICCgB&biw=1920&bih=1070#imgrc=eZeyfNB8XldEwM:
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>singleplayer infantry use randomly generated character models
>multiplayer has 25% of the team using the exact same model
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>>171205032
http://armedforcesmuseum.com/world-war-i-snipers/

As usual, Germany did it first in the war, and their success against the slavs inspired the British and the French to copy them.

Even though they didn't have scopes, Sniping was a thing as early as the Napoleonic Wars 100 years before WW1. The Baker Rifle allowed the British Green Jackets to get those sweet headshots from significantly longer away than the muskets everyone else was using, and so began the evolution of the hillnigger. Sharpshooting really got going in the Crimean War and the American Civil War, where scopes were first used on the Enfield and Whitworth rifles to let you kill scrubs from further away they could realistically respond to you. The advent of enemies peaking their heads above the trench line was too tantalizing for the huns in World War 1, so they were putting scopes on their rifles all the damn time.
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>>171205792
>dat ass
Literally the only good thing about chocolate scouts
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>>171205792
>she tries to concentrate on sniping while I'm to the hilt in her fat ass
>won't cum until she lands a headshot no matter how much she begs
>spank her every time she misses her target
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>>171182605
He doesn't even need sights, this wouldn't change anything. Remove trench dart loadout entirely. If you pick fighter your role is attacking aircraft, there is 0 reason to be able to ground attack.

Attack plane and bomber are balanced, because they make actual trade offs with their loadout and speed/maneuver. Trench fighter gets the best anti infantry weapon as well as being able to kill bombers/Attack planes.
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>tfw /bfg/ gets a drawfag as soon as I leave
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Does anyone know of a newer battlefield-like game that has bots for singleplayer shenanigans?
Really missing being able to go full rambo.
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>>171207503
>He doesn't even need sights, this wouldn't change anything
Swooping in to get kills leaves you at risk from both infantry and other planes
You can just kill enemies from very high up with the help of the sights, which also allows you to keep an eye on the enemy plane spawn
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>>171090218
I like this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykc2B5WcEa4

I think it would fit much perfectly for round theme, when the battle is pretty tied up for instance:
- at conquest, as both side has <50 tickets
- at operations, when it is last battalion and last sector to conquest / defend
>>
>hitting a bomber with an AT rocket doesnt even disable it
>>
What the fuck was DICE thinking with the planes? I'm a complete shitter with planes and even I was able to go 35-2 with a Trench Fighter.
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>>171214671
Leave planes alone, u bastard.
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>>171190243
Fuck you, the webm doesn't show the previous 20 seconds where the suddenly fog rolls in and I go completely blind
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>>171192962
if the teams are even soemwhat evenly balanced it'll will take forever
>>
How is BF1 compared to 4?

It seems like it will get old quick.
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>>171207521

We have Panzermeido, too, though he usually only stays in one general for a few weeks.
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>>171216387
BF1 is BF4 with better graphics, less fun allowed and vehicles dominating more than they should.
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>>171192962
I thought frontlines was capped at 32 players total?

>>171175553
I never quite understand the scoring system here. What does flags captured and squad spawn mean. I've played games were I swear it seems low on both counts if it's what I'm assuming.
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>>171217495
i found one private server that had frontlines with 64 players
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>>171217242

I bet you think BF3 was good.
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I fucking hate gas so much

The game would be 5x more entertaining if they removed fucking gas
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>>171219625
if they actually made it not go through walls and ceilings it would be fine
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>>171219625

Just press T.
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>>171219625
Fuck you, that's my main killer weapon
>>
the new tank seems kinda underwhelming. the pigeon artillery loadout is just a suicide rush meme and the other loadouts are outclassed by the heavy tank
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>Have PS4 and BF1

Should I get it on PC? Is it much better and is the DLC worth it
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>>171151656
Apparently the french one is awful too
Just play on english
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>>171226142
Shooters are always better on PC. Unless your PC is a toaster
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>>171219625
I don't hate gas as much after the nerf. The real thorn in my side from day one is planes, I hate them with a passion along with every single person who uses them
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>>171219625
>I fucking hate gas so much

That reminds me, lads.. Top 5s?
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It's not impossible if you Believeâ„¢
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>>171228197
do NOT tread on me pls
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>>171125010
How the absolute fuck are people not able to get 15 kills in a single round. You don't even have to try for 15, or every that is complaining is absolute shit at the game.
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>>171176169
You're lucky Ravic was on your team, he's fuckin legendary.
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>>171219625
My problem with gas is that in theory its a good tactical grenade to prevent accurate firing and disrupt enemies to allow you to move and act on the disruption. The reality is that its just the "shitters nade of choice" and every cunt in the game spams them constantly with no thought or reason because its impossible to miss a gas grenade.
>>
how do I into optical sights?
I kinda like the new RSC but the factory is unbearably inaccurate. but I really cannot get used to the optical sight.
anybody here frequently use an optical sight on a gun? what settings are you using? as in what magnification, reticle etc.?
is this shit even possible to get used to?
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>>171189219
I find that after the patch I load into games far after everyone else, like the game has already started before I spawn
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>>171230363


I typically run it with 1.5x zoom and the reticule thats like a T.

The only optical gun I use is the 10-a slug so take that as you will. I think its a fine sight though. I prefer the marksman sights, but its nice as an iron sight replacement
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Boy, everyone. Thank god DICE fixed grenades, this chart clearly shows me that people are using grenades in a more tactical approach than just grenade spam ever since they gave everyone grenades that grow on trees.
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>>171231539

DESU, I'm only noticing worse grenade spam on Fort Veux.
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the gas assault tank is dank as fuck. the delayed explosive is strong as fuck and gas spam is hilarious as well
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>>171228914
>automatico
faggot confirmed
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>>171229938
Nice meme, I've won against Ravic and Mus1ck everytime I've played against them in BF1, and every other time they stack on the same team as our /bfg/ squad to make sure they don't lose
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>>171215036
it was just a prank bro
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* * * * ATTENTION SUPPORTS * * * *

THIS IS THE REASON WHY YOU RUN AMMO POUCHES OVER CRATES 90% OF THE TIME

DO NOT BE A SHITTER AND RUN CRATES JUST SO YOU CAN GET MORE EASY RESUPPLIES AND FASTER GRENADES

I REPEAT, DO NOT BE A SHITTER

SUPPORT YOUR FUCKING AT/FLARE SLAVES

* * * * THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT BY BIG FAT GOYS * * * *
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>team finally gets into a position to attack B
>we are being pushed back
>repeat for 2 hours
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>>171238183
>You should run pouches so i can kill myself with explosives
Fucking idiot
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>>171219625
>>171230027

>be inside the house
>get gassed
>but there's no gas
>see small gas coming through the walls
>50 health lost
>>
Does anyone else wear their MAGA hat when they play on Conquer Hell?
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>>171238916
WE WUZ SAVE YOUR ASSES IN WW1
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>>171239021
>tfw not even American
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overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer
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>>171240687
>takes over entire map in the first 3 minutes
>somehow lose
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>>171230363
I actually love all the optical medic rifles now. I run them with 1.25x and the dot sight and play agressively
>>
The new medic rifle is amazing, a true skill cannon.
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thoughts on the chauchat? I think it's kind of underwhelming desu midrange its great, but that's about all it does well
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>>171243775
dem curves tho
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiYZ2CVzt-o

reminder that hardcore is only for shitters
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>>171243971
what does that even mean anon
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>>171240750
>one point lead is the whole map
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>>171244302
>Marblecuck
Come back when you've found someone who doesn't try way too hard to be a snarky faggot.
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>>171244768
literally the least shit battlefield youtuber, prove me wrong
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>>171244768
WESTIE!

>sponsored by EA
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>>171244887
all he does is throw around insults and passive aggressive comments. he can't discuss shit in the comments/redditm as he just resorts to more snarky comments without any arguments
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>creeping in Spectator Mode with the HUD off, making random players make WW1 movies for me
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>>171244887
he's literally /r/TheDonald the BF youtuber

Ravic is the least shit BF youtuber since hes actually good at the game and just uploads gameplay, rather than long winded terrible commentary trying to influence DICE's balance

as far as the shill youtubers go Westie is probably the least cancer but its not a high bar
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>>171245342
his comments section just a heap of retards who worship levelcap, badger and westie bringing retarded arguments not even worth responding to. the only solution to that is snarkly sarcastic comments

duck is literally the only battlefield youtuber who isn't a complete faggot

and he's 100% right about hardcore
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>>171246076
just take a look at his reddit history, he always acts like a complete faggot and thinks he's hot shit for playing consolebab's playable movie competitively
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>>171244302
i dont get people who want battlefield to become "hardcore" and "realistic" theres already games out there that do that much better then battlefield ever could

if you want ww1 play verdun

if you ww2 play day of infamy

if you want Vietnam play born to kill(a mod for day of infamy and insurgency that's been recently released) or wait for rising storm 2 to come out

if you want a modern military play insurgency or squad

if your a uber larper then play red orcastra or arma i guess

battlefield is battlefield and enjoy it for all the things it brings to the table as opposed to the games ive listed above
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>>171246393
What people want is the depth of old Battlefields, not console trash that panders to literal retards.
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>>171246002
well fuck atleast he is good at the game unlike another "elite gamer" whos no doubt reached \the level cap to every battlefield game ever made
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>>171246828
Fuck off Marbleduck, go shill Trump or cry about Levelcap.
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Holy shit the people over in battlefield_live are a bunch of ungrateful fucks
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>>171246934
what should we be grateful for?
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>>171246906
what did he say that made you hate him so? did he say your primary weapon was for noobs? or was it just the hardcore video?
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>>171247026
I should of worded that differently. More like entitled
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>>171247427
>DICE makes a test environment and subreddit to allow people to test balance changes and submit feedback
>completely ignores all feedback and game's balance turns to shit, as predicted
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>>171247427
not the guy you're responding to but your comment still makes no sense.
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>>171247578
sounds like most video game test environments
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>>171238183

Just to double check, the pouches don't resupply regular grenades anymore but they still do resupply gadget stuff instantly still? If that's the case then yeah there's no point to the crate lel.
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Why the Lebel is so satisfying? goddamn that sound and reload animations are so good.
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>>171248335
crate's really only useful if you're in a Metro meatgrinder standing next to a bunch of guys and you don't want to worry about spamming your two pouches in between cooldowns for every last one of them. Other than that, definitely stick with pouches
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>>171248335
Pouches don't resupply grenades, but that doesn't matter since they resupply by themselves 36s after you throw them. I've seen even more Supports fucking running box now after this patch because it's "better"

It makes playing Assault so fucking retarded sometimes, because a tank would be sitting nearby literally 2 easy AT nade tosses from exploding, and some faggot fat Support fuck is sitting a corner hugging his box so he can throw another Frag
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>>171248767

I miss the pouches resupplying regular grenades instantly since you could easily combo tanks by having a buddy resupply your light AT grenades and the gadget AT grenades.
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why are the servers dead as fuck? is 9pm for christs sake
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>>171243775
The choo-choo is actually close range. 3HK at 359rpm means it kills faster than the BAR, until you hit 12m where TTK goes into the trash. It's sort of like an auto 8 .25 for the support, better at close range than BAR/Hellriegel, worse than autofagico and shotguns.
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>>171250759
Lots of players are boycotting the servers since the patch basically ruined the game for the pros.
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>>171251428
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"professional BF"
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>>171251428
>the pros

lol
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>>171251428
how can a series about having massive battles have "pros"?
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>>171247578
kinda feel bad for the people who spent alot of time typing paragraphs after paragraphs for nothing..
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>>171251759
>>171251831
>>171252153
>MattiAceGaming
>LevelCap
>MarbelDuck
>Stonemountain
>MassiveG
>Jackfrags
These are just some of our pros /b/ros, You newfags should know them by name.
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>>171251428

How did it ruin the game?
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>>171253018
I had to stop myself there, was about to really bite into it
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>>171251759
>tfw I outdamage a shotty cumguzzler with an smg

feels good lads
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>>171253632
>ammo pouches are useless
>people spam grenades even more because they refill automatically (they just throw less because there are less to throw)
>emergency repair is now useless (a 5hp nerf would've been fine, 15 is retarded)
>every grenade besides frag and incendiary are virtually useless now
>AA is practically completely useless
>server netcode has progressively gone down the shitter with each update
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>>171219768
that would require programming skillz which dice has none
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REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE I JUST WANTED TO PLAY A MATCH AFTER WORK
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171254727
Just play the campaign

Or set up your own with bots.
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>>171085308
Is the RSC 1917 supposed to be a two hit kill? I swear it took 3 shots to kill someone just a minute ago. I was using the Optical version and they were about 5m away from me.
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So I've got 50 dollars in my wallet, and premium says it's 49.99, but it won't let me buy it. It insists I add another way to "pay the rest". Is there a tax on it or something?
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What the fuck was DICE thinking with Frontlines? "Hey we need a new mode! Any ideas?"
"How about we just take Conquest and Rush and make them have sex since people love them so much!"

>16 vs 16 yet squads only hold 5 people resulting in one person always having to spawn back at the start
>WE MUST TAKE OBJECTIVE BUTTERS, oh wait sorry bro they went and took back the objective from before so now you got pushed back so you gotta go do it again
>Spawn camping is easy as shit once you get to the end to detonate the telegraphs
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>>171257116
yes it is taxed. get a job
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>>171257071
Spawn protection probably. RSC 2 hit kills up to 40m or something
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>>171257280
It literally doesn't say anywhere how much this tax is. The price is listed as 49.99 everywhere and I can't find anything that says it's taxed, and if so, how much it is with tax included.
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>>171257138
it is really frustrating when youre trying to take the last objectives on Soissons and theres nothing but snipers and Supports on the hill
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>>171257382
it would be whatever the sales tax is in your state/country

it's pretty safe to assume there is tax on anything you buy from Origin/Xbox Marketplace/Playstation Store
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>>171257280
taxation is theft
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>>171257071
it's supposed to be a two hit kill up to 47 meters.
maybe you need more if the shots hit the arms? I still don't think so, but maybe
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>>171257692
taxation pays for infrastructure and the things that make your life good. at least if you don't live in the usa.
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Thinking of getting BF1 for PC, are the Australian servers still populated?
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>>171257692
Thank god the bolsheviks won't be in this game
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>>171257760
i probably was too spazzy with it since i went right from the autoloading 8 .35 factory which has a way higher rof. its likely that i didn't realize it has a much lower rof and shot it with out compensating for recoil.
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>>171257621
It doesn't say anywhere what the actual amount of taxes is. Like, anywhere.
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>>171257138
I can't believe it's only 32 players. This shit needs 64
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>watch a levelcap video for the first time in forever
anybody have a time machine? i want to go back a few minutes and warn myself not to
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>>171258282
yeah, it's pretty dumb. but now you know i guess.
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>>171258282
>>171258772
actually now that i think about it, on the xbone store, i believe it actually says "taxes not included" or something at the bottom of the product description. may be wrong though.
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did they nerf the fuck out of the hellriegel again? the patch notes say hip fire spread and horizontal recoil were increased but i am wondering what effect this has actually had.
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>>171258884
That's pretty fucking Jewish of them. Like, isn't there a law or something that you can't deliberately hide how much something actually is?
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>>171259492
pretty douchey way to not let the customer know exactly what they are paying.
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>>171259704
Well I guess I've been schlomo'd.
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>tfw trying to find a game ... at 5 AM on a Friday morning
>one populated Frontlines server
>crashes 12 minutes in
okay fine geez, I'll go back to my pleb rpg's then
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>>171257870
Anyone?
Need some feedback here
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>>171261110
i dont know
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>>171259332
Yes. Hip fire spread and horizontal recoil means it is less accurate in hip fire and ADS, respectively.
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What I learned in Support school is the lewis suppressive is actually pretty badass
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>>171261646
What's funny is that so many people bought the Suppressive to unlock the new Chauchat, only to discover that the Chauchat isn't really a good fit for them and they love the Suppressive so much especially after using it for at least 50 kills.
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Why did they think this was okay?
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>>171261646
>>171262141
I hate the suppressive so much, i got violated repeatedly getting that fucking chauchat

>enemy hit 96

fuck that gun
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>>171257138
Because historically the level was shit
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>>171263486
Im sure its cause the gun has a tube mag and requires loads of bullshit to reload it
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>>171263675
Same here. I don't know if it was just because I got too used to the Madsen before doing the assignment, but I had a bitch of a time getting kills with the Lewis again.

I don't really think it was worth it. I like the sound and feel of the Chauchat, and the control is pretty sweet, but the low capacity and fire rate is a bummer. It's a gun I would never need in any situation now. If I need to run suppressive dakka, I'll use a Lewis or an MG. If I need to storm as a backup assault with ammo I'll use the Madsen or the BAR. But there's nothing the Chauchat does that makes it necessary in any situation.
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>we are looking to improve Operations
>but not by adding it to the server browser
Kek
https://twitter.com/Striterax_/status/842431237490933762 (DICE cuck)
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>>171267878
Fucking retards I swear to god.
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>>171267947
>Ali Bassoon

Jesus Christ sweden
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>see a person with an anti-Trump profile picture
>report them on all of my accounts for cheating
>FairFight ACTUALLY bans them
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>>171267878
His fucking garbage stats
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>>171271347
>1337 on top 3 guns
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>>171263992
I've been using the Chauchat Telescopic for long range (200m) machine gunning. Now that the symthicc stats are out, the Benet Mercie Telescopic is probably the best LMG for this purpose though.
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>>171263486
It was tube loaded like a shotgun so it's a weird way to load it
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>>171272247
Bennet Mercie Telescopic makes my dick unbelievable levels of moist
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>>171263486
does he put in two bullets to reload one?
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>>171229573
Fuck you the game goes too fast for me and I die before i kill someone
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>the red fucking screen when you get hurt
>the flare from looking outside while inside
Who the fuck thought these were good design choices?

I swear the estrogen in Sweden's water is rotting their fruity little brains to mush.
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rip ammo pouches

hello ammo crates!

good thing i don't need to resupply any of my gadgets :3
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pick a team/nation/whatever
pick a class
this is VERY important /bfg/
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What is your go to assault weapon now after the patch?

I think it's time I finally dropped the hellriegel after it's 25th nerf but I don't know what to move to, how is the dlc smg?
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I AM SO FICKING SICK OF GETTING KILLED BY MP18'S, AUTISTICOS AND GRENADES

FUCK THIS UPDATE
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Best new map?

Also bots when
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>>171275861
Ottomans

Calvary
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>>171275861
French

Sniper
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>>171276261
:)
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>>171276363
:D
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>>171276238
It wouldn't be so bad if headshots did more damage so you could one shot them with semi auto rifles if you were skilled enough.......but with console auto aim that would be op. Why can't DICE seperate PC and console gun stats and shit?
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>>171276134
it's ok

i like it over the mp18 since it does a better job at being a midrange option

in terms of effectiveness, adad spam with the autistico trench still nets me better results
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>>171276716
Im on ps4 what does adad do????
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>>171277116
strafing like a skilless faggot, the bane of every FPS
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>>171277179
Thank you...

Err...

Can you not use the F word so much? It's hateful, just say something else instead next time because it makes you look ignorant. Just my 2¢
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>desperately need to spawn closer to point
>every single squad mate is dead
or worse
>every squad mate is under fire, you wait and wait but they all die anyways
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>>171276498
>medic rifles
>oneshot kills
No that'd be broken as shit
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THERE ARE TOO MUCH GRENADES
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>>171277179
blame dice for making hipfire ridiculously accurate and removing the speed penalty for strafing
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>>171277836
What's the map which takes place almost entirely in a bunker complex? One of the new ones

>Those fucking shootout corridors

There's not enough grenades in the world
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>>171277265
>when you can't tell if someone's being satirical or not
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>play new tank operation
>get tank hunter landship
>wreck all the tanks
the best
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>>171278151

I just go around and flank the clusterfuck. I've managed to get 3 squad wipes using all my grenades and the Hellriegel.
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>>171276134

The ribblyrolly is pretty good if you're aiming. I've switched to it entirely from the MP18.
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>>171278947

Yeah I heard this from someone the other day, and as someone who really doesn't hipfire it seems like it would be worth giving a go.

I just can't get into hip firing like some people can, far too difficult for me
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>>171277527
Not if it was only headshots.
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>>171275861
German
Assault
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Am I the only one who really enjoys using the MP18 trench?
The thing is a hipfire machine and I've gotten so gud at getting headshots with it that I can even outshoot most automatico niggers
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Wow, the Lebel is utter shit

I really like the chuchat, ribbly and RSC optical though, however I can't be arsed to unlock the new shotgun yet.
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>>171281225

New shotgun is pretty boring. Better to go M97 sweeper for the one-shots or 12G extended for the dakka. As is, you have a shotgun that doesn't fire fast enough to justify the low pellet count.
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>>171281225
>the Lebel is utter shit
I like it, its essentially a martini with a scope. Also, the new shotgun is garbage. The devs dont realize whats supposed to make a shotgun good. It has no stopping power like the model 10, and it doesnt have the hipfire accuracy of the m97 to compliment the rapid fire rate.
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>>171281045
i like it too. running around with an MP18 as the germans is baller
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>>171282168
>a martini with a scope

The damage model isn't the same though and the sweetspont sits awkwardly between the SMLE and Russian
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>>171277836
>sshhhh goyim... grenade spam is fixed now
>>
Did they fuck over airburst mortars while leaving HE mortars untouched? Or how is it that I get killed by HE shit all the time nowadays?
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>>171282836
>and the sweetspont sits awkwardly between the SMLE and Russian
Even better, i hate having to choose between the two, now i can have both.
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>>171282921

>Remember, it’s a bannable offence to view the statistical data. It’s different for EA. So everything that's changed about this, you’re hearing from us.
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>>171283191
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>>171281045
>get shot at by mp 18
>turn around
>spray with automatico
>get a kill without losing 30 health

gass grenades do more damage than that thing desu
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>>171278404
>play new operation
>using anything other than an anti tank assault loadout
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>>171085308
so is this whole 'you get a bunch of Elites to help you instead of a behemoth' when you're losing actually working or is it more of an inconvenience for the winning team?
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>>171284073
not getting a behemoth means you lose the only thing that gives the attackers a slight edge over the defenders meaning attacking is 90% impossible
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>>171284073
It has as much impact as a Behemoth, meaning it'll hardly help when you're 100+ tickets behind

But 4 Elites supported by their team can actually get things done unlike Behemoths
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>be attackers
>have 0 medics
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>>171284191
Also meant to add, this is strictly speaking from the Conquest perspective. idk about Ops
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>>171284191

Is that a cap-tan drawing?
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>TSNP loading screens have a German with an American shotgun and shell bandoleer, despite Germans protesting the use of shotguns introduced by American forces

Really gets the Behemoth en-route.
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>>171166392

I grew very attached to the Russian 1895 Infantry, it rechambers relatively fast and has a sweet spot that works for me. Anything closer or for objectives I just pop a flare and draw my Frommerstop, Bodeo or Mars.

Like the Bodeo is clinically retarded in terms of loading times but I've had it happen I downed three guys with one mag due to the 50+ dam per shot in close range.
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>>171279369
That's still broken anon, sniper rifles are completely outclassed at that point
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>>171258638
westie is even worse. levelcap has garbage opinions but westie always sounds like he's at dice headquarters reading from a script DICE gave him
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>>171284284
nobody wants to be the only class that cant do a single thing to tanks when there are like 4 tanks around you at any given time
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>>171258638

Levelcap thinks the medic class being the best at everything is the way to make the game balanced.
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>>171279369
I main Medic, and I will tell you that making SLRs 1 shot headshots would make them absolutely retarded. If they even kept the old 2.0x headshot multipliers from previous BF games, SLRs would be fucking insane

They are already in a really nice spot now after this patch, the only thing I'd buff is their base ADS accuracy and moving ADS accuracy slightly
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>>171285294
Medics can actually deal pretty respectable damage fast. 3x HE Rifle Grenades and a Light AT Nade will do around 40 damage, and you don't even have to lay down or sit at a window like Assaults

But that means either giving up your medkit or syringe
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Is BF4 alive on PS4?
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>>171285219
>>171258638
>watching those guys

Fuck 'em, watch Jackfrags or KriticalKris
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completely agree, the only reason I play medic is because they have some of the best guns in the game
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>>171228197
>tfw phone posting

Forgive me lads
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>>171285536
>>171285971
I'm loving the optical variants of the Mondragon and Selbstlader after this patch.
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>>171284641
is he black? he may have jacked it off some yanks body, among the few who acknowledges that shotguns are way better than rifles in a trench
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Can't understand why DICE won't just balance the AA like
>shots do a shitload more damage, larger AoE, exploding ammo vs wooden planes
>way more inaccurate
>remove the fucking loss of control and yanking the fucking plane around when you're not even being hit by AA so that you crash into the ground even though flying at 150m

Maybe buff the larger caliber handgun's damage against planes as well. They're made of wood.
They're supposed to be fast, fragile, and the key is to exploit the speed and angle of attack. Not a giant fucking balloon which you can just machinegun down with the AA.

I'm not even an airchav, I fly planes when I see that our team doesn't have any or notice that enemy doesn't use AA
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Holy fuck why is Cavalry so good?
Once you ditch that horse you can fuck shit up.
You get a white horse for getting cavalry rank 10 right?
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>>171281465
>>171282168
>new shotgun is bad

literally git gud

I dropped 70 on conq with the next highest on the server being like 35 earlier with it and I've only used it a handful of times max. I'm not gonna say it's the best shotgun without more testing but its certainly good and usable and fills more of a skill cannon niche among shotguns. Its a very good addition

I don't normally care enough about people being wrong to make a post calling them out but it's getting kinda tiring seeing all these "omg it sucks" posts about every new gun by people who have used it maybe once and aren't very good at the game. The post right above is calling the lebel shit, I mean christ. Every single weapon they added with the DLC is good and usable. Not a single one is garbage or noticeably underpowered, theres no point to spreading misinformation

the real issues with the DLC are the map/vehicle balance, the guns are good
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>>171288385
I find it okay. Giving up 2 pellets for a faster fire rate is okay and it seems fairly accurate too. I don't think it is the best shotgun, but it isn't terrible.
Its hard to tell because symthic leave all stats for each individual pellet instead of each shot.
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>>171284176
most of the time the behemoth is only good for 1 or maybe 2 sectors anyway
>>
>have done the "In a round, perform 5 headshots with the Russian 1895 Sniper" TWICE now
>it reset both times
>had it be fully completed, saying 5/5
>didn't even just get 5 headshots in just ONE ROUND, I got them in ONE LIFE
>it keeps not fucking counting
Yes I was using the right rifle. No I did not leave the server/get disconnected before it ended.
It just keeps fucking resetting.
And it's the only challenge that's getting reset.
I have both medic rifles, both support LMGs, the ribbey, the other new DLC sniper in its infantry version.
But the scoped version keeps getting reset for some reason.
Anyone else with this issue?
>>
What category of melee is the Trench Fleur in?
Is it the heavy class, like the shovel?

And does it do any damage to barbed wire/wood/tanks? It says it doesn't but I think that might be because I haven't unlocked it yet maybe?
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The balance on this game is terrible, fuck planes and fuck scouts, buff support. Going back to 4.
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>>171287642
Cavalry off his horse is downright OP
>come up behind him
>start shooting with my lmg
>he finishes sniping someone as I completely empty my magazine
>turns around and kills me while I reload
>he throws down a medpack and goes back to full health
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>>171289812
I'll never understand why DICE thought giving Cavalry more HP then normal infantry AND a medpack was a got idea
>>
>>171286821

He's 100% Aryan.
>>
Did ptc move on to bf1 or did they not want to abandon their AEKs?
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>>171289530
>buff support
t. literal retard
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>>171289894
otherwise nobody would pick cavalry because they'd get cut down instantly
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>>171290512
The Scout Russian Trench is pretty much the same gun and I do quite well with that without the extra HP.
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>>171290607
On horseback?
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>>171290823
No the gun you get as a Scout class, its essentially the same thing but your just regular infantry.

And I have no idea who'd want to fire from horseback, you get a huge accuracy reduction and the horse is super wonky to move. I think you have the same HP as normal on horse back if they are shooting you and not the horse.
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>>171285536
Sorry but I'm sick of not being able to actually sit on a flag because automaticos rape me even when i shoot them in the face.
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>>171257138
I HATE how easy it is to pull a switcheroo. The objectives are usually far enough apart that by the time you get to the next one the enemy has retaken the previous one because they were there just unable to defend it but with the majority of troops pushing forward taking it back is easy
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>>171273014
Why though? The rate of fire is so low and its only 30 rounds
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>>171291026
If you are really mad at Automaticos, use the Auto8 Marksman and shoot first, you'll kill them nearly as fast

Otherwise just stay beyond 30m+ and keep your profile hidden as much as possible, Automaticos only rape when they are up close amd have a nice large target to spray. It's really hilarious how much they can struggle now beyond 30-40m+ sometimes, I was able to duel and kill Automatico Trench shitters with the MP18 Optical while grinding for the Ribeyrolles

>>171292393
It has the BAR's damage model (23-19), high minimum damage means things will always die in 6 bullets maximum at range. It's also one of the easiest LMGs to use while standing at range due to the low ROF and other nice stats, you will have a much easier time killing people further out with it than the MG15 or Lewis Suppressive
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>>171292982
What was DICE thinking when they came up with Chauchat Telescopic? It should have been Chauchat Trench.
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>>171293457

More like the Shitshow, amirite?
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>>171296320
More like shit-shat amirite?
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Beyond the Marne is the most retarded Operation I've ever seen.

The first map is always an easy stomp for the attackers because DICE thought it would be okay to give them SIX(6) tanks.

Then the second map is reverse. On the first sector the attackers have to pass an open field with only one tank while the defenders get a tank plus tank hunter. The second point is a trench clusterfuck where the defenders get a flametrooper as well. After that comes a fucking 3 flag sector where I've seen attackers lose with all three battalions.

What a load of horseshit.
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>they add a new gadget, the Ayerton Fan, that allows you to target enemy gas clouds and blow them away so they can't pester you anymore.
>this is shit actually existed
But what class would get it?
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>>171296923
I wouldn't mind that being a cross-class gadget like the Decoy was in BF4. If I had to pick just one to get it, it'd be Assault so they can finally have their own ally-supportive item for once.

Man if we could melee whap enemies with that, I'd fucking lose it.
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>>171297054
>using the fan in Super Smash bros
Good times.
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>>171228914
>those top two
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how are you meant to get 20 HS with the mp18 optical

kills, sure. HS specifically, eh
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>>171298232
aim at the head
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Why does every kill feel unrewarding but every death feels like bullshit?
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>>171298649
Fly planes, every kill feels rewarding because you just know that the other player is raging in front of his screen and there's nothing he can do about you killing him five times more.
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anyone else getting lag spikes over the last few days
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>>171267878
I hate DICE so goddamn much.
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finally unlocked everything..fucking dice and their 20 headshots
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>>171142036
Factory was a beast before the patch, now with the lower sips it's pretty much a guaranteed kill on anyone you can see <40m
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The ribbleyroller isn't very good at all.

Sure it's decent if you're prone but you might as well have another gun if you're gonna play that way.
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>>171302695
Jackfrags owns the shit out of everything with it though

It's accurate enough on its own. No need to use the bipod.
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>>171296514
>After that comes a fucking 3 flag sector where I've seen attackers lose with all three battalions.

Seen this twice already.

Almost quit because my team was such shit but even our idiot squad was able to hold off a decent team for three battalions at that three objective part.

>tfw the tank behemoth one shotting attacking tanks left and right.

Insanity.
>>
www.monsterenergy.com/battlefield1

9PR6 - JRPM - 874R
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>>171286950
Or you can quit your boohooing and go MG15 and shoot them down easy.
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>>171296514

Just got around to playing it as attackers. We stomped the shit out of them the whole first map and then lost all three battalions on the first sector of the second one. Fucking brutal.
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>>171308326
Thank you I have ovarian cancer and this brightened my day :)
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Why is everyone so triggered about planes?
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>>171313793

Because they think anything that kills them is unfair.
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>>171313793
>>171314115
t. reddit skycancer
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>>171313793
>trench darts
>midair repair
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i remember when planes had to fly back to their airstrip to resupply/repair
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Does Battlefield 1 have metabans? I'm asking because I don't want to buy the game, just to be globally banned by some 14-year-old.
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>>171314853

They were even worse in BF2 because autists could precision bomb any point on the map with 100% accuracy making the bombs way more powerful than intended.
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anyone having problems with battlefield tracker/companion? for example
my time played is still 194h since the release of the new dlc.. apparently it only counts the vanilla maps or something..
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Anyone want to play together? I get back to my pc on Sunday since I've been on spring break.

My origin is webus97, it would be cool if we could make a group together :3
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>>171314864
Of course not
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>tfw planefag
>fucking my bitch in the mile high club
>watching the groundbootfags struggle and kill each other for my scraps
>bomb them for fun
>literally flying around with a care in the world

Git gud bootfags
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>>171318536
H-how do I become a planebro?
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>>171318869
1. Spawn trench fighter or groun support attack plane
2. Bomb red dots on map and get 3-5 kills minimum with each strafing run
3. Pretend it took skill and act smug on reddit
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>>171313793
Because when a planefag decides he wants to kill your, there is nothing you can do to stop him

It's like when airburst mortars were ridiculously strong at launch, only much much worse
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Why can the artillery cannons gas canisters teamkill?

>>171313793
Because now that they even out AA guns people are pissed they can't take down a plan in 5 hits anywhere on the map.
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>It's another "Attackers can't get past the first two points on Devil's Anvil" episode
Fuck this map, I think I've one once as an attacker on this piece of shit
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>>171320023
You honestly shouldn't play Devil's Anvil to win
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>>171320023
kill me, pete
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Friendly and enemy gas/fire should be different colours.
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>>171186162
How is that even possible to have fewer grenades when everyone is getting more? Nothing about this makes sense
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>>171298232
see >>171151836
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>>171318536
>tfw bikefag
>ride my bike with training wheels on
>watching the other neighborhood kids struggle and fall over without them
>literally biking around without a care in the world

Git gud bikefags
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>>171321171

You're seeing more grenade usage throughout the game and less grenade spam at choke points, and apparently less grenades at choke points means overall less usage.
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>>171323714
What is the reason for that? I'm no scientist, but aren't you supposed to consider why data is the way it is to validate it outside of pure numbers?
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>>171263486
>highest capacity sniper
>takes more time to reload the spare three shots than just using a regular 5 round one and reloading it all the way
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>tank drives away while you're trying to repair it
>tank doesn't hold still so the mgs can actually hit something
>tank doesn't angle himself so other positions can actually hit something
>tank doesn't angle himself to shield repairmen from enemy fire
>tank drives straight into a ditch
>bomber pilot flies low enough to get hit by aa
>pilot crashes the plane with NO SURVIVORS
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>>171320023
the only time I've won Devil's Anvil operation as attacker was the within the first hour of the DLC release on tuesday, when nobody had a fucking clue where to go or aim

but soon people figured out the layout and attackers never won a game ever again
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>>171325232
>bomber
>dying to AA
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>>171325232
>tank spawns as basic heavy tank to attack a flag instead of the flamethrower one
>dies instantly from mess of AT grenades
Why choose anything but the flamethrower variant? Nobody needs 4 useless turrets, and if they wanted to no driver cares enough to stop for them to be useful
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>>171319689
Actually you can fire a regular shell and gas canister at the same time. Just hit 4 and left mouse at the same time and both fly out. It's hilarious.
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>>171324770

It's probably due to the fact that ammo pouches don't resupply grenades anymore, and the nerf to grenade resupply near an ammo crate. Most grenade usage and kills were at places like bunker doors, where it was just relentless grenade spam. With the grenade resupply changes, it isn't happening nearly as much now.
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>>171325581
I wasn't really posting about that thanks for mentioning it but I somehow managed to teamkill someone with a gas canister shell
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>>171325232

>tank doesn't angle to deflect shots
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>>171325419
Everything mentioned happened to me in the same game on conquest Rupture 5 minutes ago.
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>>171325509
I was thinking about the Char in particular which only has MGs except for the driver's position.
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>>171325685
>>171325685
It happened to me too one time, no idea how it works becaue other times it was completely unharmful for my teammates.
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>>171325509
Nobody picks the heavy tanks for the passenger guns, because they are all shit. The flamethrowers in particular have bad range and deal far worse damage than the Wex. Their main strength is the 57mm gun.
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What do you think of this lads?

https://www.reddit.com/r/battlefield_live/comments/5zytvl/grenade_resupply_ammo_20_and_whats_next/
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>>171327086
Fuck DICE and fuck brown people.
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>>171327086

Those "what's next" changes actually look good.
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>>171327086
i was told this wasnt battlefront 2 :^)
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>>171313793
quick post planes
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>>171328756
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>>171328823
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I did the impossible
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>>171327086
EVEN FUCKING CALL OF DUTY DOESN'T HAVE A WAY TO REPLENISH AMMO UNLESS YOU RUN THE SCAVENGER PERK AND EVEN THEN IT'S ONLY WHEN YOU PICK UP BAGS OFF THE GROUND THIS IS COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>171327086
DICE are utterly incompetent.
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God, the amount of seemingly random explosive death in BF1 is fucking excruciating. How do you guys deal with it?
It almost feels like less than 10% of my deaths actually come from being shot dead.
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>>171332027
is this your first BF? not trying to sound condescending btw
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>>171332027
git gud camper/obvious route rusher
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>>171332367
No, I have played every entry except for Vietnam and BC2.
I guess it always was an issue, but at least in BF3/4 I felt like I could do something against it.
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>>171332412
What choice do I have when I'm on the defending team in an operation and need to stay on the objective?
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>>171332826

>playing operations
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>>171332826
>hurr operations means I stay on the point in dis little corner they'll never see it coming!

pro tip: figure out where the enemy is rushing into the objective from and bushwhack them on the way there
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>>171333427
I do that, but still get blown up
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>>171333620
Then you're not doing it well enough. And when I say "bushwhack them on the way there", I mean you're taking up a position a few meters out of your objective, watching for the squad to roll through, then following them and slaughtering them once they pass.

Are they anticipating your location? Flank them harder and be stealthier.

Can you not shoot for shit? Git gud.

Are you facing down insane numbers? Be more patient when they don't see you or roll deeper.

Use your head for more than to grow hair on anon and you'll git gud faster than ever before.
>>
NOUS ETIONS DES ROIS ET MERDE!
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So does the trench raider die to bayonet charge like the other elite classes?
I've been gone all week.
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>>171335431

Yes.
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>>171334625
>the filename
>the "we were kings and shit" in french
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why are all the scopes side mounted in this game?
is that really how they were in ww1?
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>>171337674

Prevents the action being blocked.
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>>171337674
All the black soldiers instinctually held their guns sideways from years of being a child soldier in the ghetto. They side-mounted them so they could still use them when reflexes took over when the shelling started.
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>>171328756
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>>171338263
what the fuck maneuver is that?
>>
>>171327086
There was nothing wrong with the support class's ability to replenish ammo until they nerfed pouches into uselessness.

I'm convinced DICE is staffed almost entirely by double-digit IQ, diversity-hire sandniggers.
>>
>>171327086
tl;dr version when
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>>171339067
>all gadgets will resupply on their own eventually
>this can be sped up by ammo boxes/pouches
>replenishment times may continue through lives
>tossed both AT grenades then died? You might have to find a support when you respawn
Basically
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>>171330753
honestly a scavenger system wouldnt be a bad idea, like if you killed an enemy scout you could go to his body and replenish your flares without having to change your entire loadout
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>>171339269
No one was asking for this. This just caters to shitters who don't want to stick with their squad.

>>171339854
That's a lot better than what we'll get.
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>>171338397
Doesn't have a name desu.
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>>171340061
The only thing they really needed to do was increase grenade resupply times from pouches and lower gadget resupply time from boxes
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>>171327086

Once again they prove how they just don't play the game, the only way to do it is to separate each game mode into different rulesets. In BF4 they nerfed grenades hard in order to "balance" nade spam in CuckFactors favorite maps of locker and metro, what this did is make grenades COMPLETELY useless on every other mode and map to the point where in conquest mode you might as well not waste time throwing them.

Now they want to nerf them again and bring fucking anti tank gadgets into the mix in a game where the AT tools are the weakest they have ever been against the strongest vehicles in recent memory.
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>The AA nerf was totally justified guys
They even had an arty truck trying to take me down, ON SOISSONS, where you can spare a tank or 5.
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>>171343349
>>
>>171343349
>B Back
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>>171337674
let's the gun profile be lower to the ground
>>
Premium worth getting nowadays?

Having fun with the base game but I want a bit more out of it I think.
>>
>>171346317
No fuck off.
>>
>>171328823
Do you even lift?
>>
So how the fuck do I free look in planes when RMB uses the scope or does literally nothing in third person?
>>
>>171348529
You can't.
>>
Why the fuck did my kills with the Slug, Lewis, etc. suddenly stop registering towards the new weapons?
>>
>>171346317
Eh, it's only fifty bucks. Just ask your father for a small loan of one million dollars.
>>
The gun play in BF1 is trash, you're shoehorned into using a few guns because the rest of the variants/gun types are complete shit.
>>
>>171350023
are you saying your kills after the patch got zeroed or that the kills you already had didn't count? because you need 50 kills after you installed the dlc, even if you already had 50 kills with those weapons already
>>
>>171351428
objectively wrong though. every single support gun is good, pretty much every medic gun is viable and every scout weapon is good for the range it's set out to be good at.
the assault class is the only exception, you are given the choice of having an OP shitter gun and a gun that is on par with all the other weapons in the game and requires some skill
>>
This game really needs team scrambling.

The way it currently works, it just builds one team up more and more strongly as players more frequently quit from the side that's losing.
>>
>>171351820
>every single support gun is good
"good" is relative but the MG 15 Suppressive and the Madsen own the support class. The Huot is pretty shitty, it's not worth using over other LMGs.

>every medic gun
Lol no. The worst offender is definitely the 1906, 5 rounds and it takes 2 to kill. The Sweeper and the autoloading 8 are the best too. Scout is the only class I would say that most of the guns are fine/usable. Assault is a joke, only 1 useful SMG class (automatico), the hellriegel has been nerfed a ton, and there are really only 2 shotgun variants that matter being the Model-A
There is no reason to use the shittier LMGs/autoloaders over the better ones. You're gimping yourself (even if mildly).
Why use a gun that takes 1-2 bullets more to kill when you can succeed more efficiently with a better gun?
>>
Why when the Obama balloon of welfare no assaults use their rocket guns on it? Am I the only one that shoots?
>>
>>171352438
AT rockets do shit damage to air.
It barely does any damage compared to an AA or a machine gun turret.
You're basically wasting 4 AT rockets that should be going into a tank and you're wasting time going out of your way to find an angle to shoot at it.

It's seriously the easiest behemoth to destroy.
>>
>>171351469

Nah it looks like my stats just hadn't updated and I'd actually finished the gun I was working on.

Still not sure if my 15 kills in a round with the Autoloading 35 counted.
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>>171352274
>MG 15 Suppressive and the Madsen own the support class
the bar out damages both of them and the benet-mercie has much better accuracy
>The worst offender is definitely the 1906
it's one of the most accurate weapons in the game while having one of the best damage per second across all ranges
>Assault is a joke, only 1 useful SMG class (automatico)
the automatico is the OP as fuck shitter weapon I was talking about. but the mp18 and the hellriegel still are in the same tier as every other weapon. and obviously the shotguns are OP shitter weapons as well
>>
>>171353976
>the bar out damages both of them and the benet-mercie has much better accuracy

hello, 50% winrate Symthic chimp
>>
>>171354178
yeah man, fuck facts!
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>>171353976
>the bar out damages both of them and the benet-mercie has much better accuracy
The BAR has 20 rounds and the benet has shit sights and shittier damage.

>>171353976
>it's one of the most accurate weapons in the game while having one of the best damage per second across all ranges
At the cost of ammo amount which again you can kill 2 people at best with it. The autoloading ext. and the sweeper are much more versatile.

>>171353976
>the automatico is the OP as fuck shitter weapon I was talking about. but the mp18 and the hellriegel still are in the same tier as every other weapon. and obviously the shotguns are OP shitter weapons as well
There is little to no reason beyond challenges to use the MP18. The Hellriegel has been nerfed several times to the point where it's highly suboptimal to use. They are not in the same tier as the automatico which is the initial problem I declared. Even post patch the automaticos run laps around the other SMGs. The Hellriegel was great a month ago.

The thing is that most of the shotguns aren't OP or even P. They are lackluster pieces of shit that either take more shots to kill someone than you can deal with multiple enemies for the mag size or they are all over the place recoil wise while still doing shittier damage than the Hunter
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>>171354324
On all levels except practical the BAR is viable

>takes cover
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>>171338263
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>>171354765
>>171354905
it takes a special kind of shitter to not be able to use a gun because it can only kill two guys per mag. and it has a super fast reload time too
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>>171355047
post your in-game level so I can laugh at you
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>>171355047
I've used several of the guns, especially the BAR which I initially liked. I'm a support """main""" as in my most play time comes from it and it is my most used class because I have always enjoyed LMGs in any game and the limpet is fun to use.

There are several instances where you can easily run into a squad and you won't be able to mow them down if you have to reload. I've tried and going against 3 people in a firefight with it is dodgy. The sights aren't as good as the other LMGs and the recoil is pretty bad.

>super fast reload time
>super
Not at all. It's not snail pace slow but it's far from super fast. The MG 15 Suppressive and the Madsen (especially the Madsen) outclass it.
The 10 extra rounds for the Madsen will actually let you deal with groups of enemies.
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>>171354765
>>171354905
>that gun that is the most popular of all the support weapon is ttly impractical and impossible to use.

literally
fucking
retarded
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>>171355508
No one said it was impossible to use you fucking idiot. It IS impractical in the sense that you can do better with other guns.

>popularity means its good
The BAR is probably the only weapon in BF1 that anyone can recognize, you realize that right?
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>>171354935
Where are the tires???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ShACteRduY
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NEW THREAD
>>171355819
>>171355819
>>171355819
>>171355819
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>>171355715
Nigga half the guns you can't find in gun shops on the regular. People recognize them
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>>171355715
The original argument was that "you're shoehorned into using a few guns because the rest of the variants/gun types are complete shit."

What I'm trying to say is it's completely subjective and pretty much every gun is viable to some play style.
And as a guy that has a service star with almost every gun in the game, I'm just saying that you are retarded and need to go neck yourself for your shit opinion.
>>
>>171356084
Nobody is as autistic as you and wastes 12 hours a day using shit guns.

The BAR is fine but it's not the best gun and you're using ONE gun to try and disprove what I said but you can't considering that is your only argument.
You are shoehorned into using 1-3 guns per class and you're just being a contrarian faggot otherwise. Dumb aspie, sorry I offended you for saying the BAR was just ok.

Go drink bleach tubby.

>>171356056
>half the guns
C&R antique shops and online maybe. In regular gun stores? Top fucking kek. Like there are really that maybe century old guns that have lasted that long and/or aren't already in a collection.
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>>171263486
That's how the gun works.
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