/agdg/ - Amateur Game Development General

first for no progress all shitposting

/agdg/ is a FOSS zone.

Non-free cucks stay out.

>not languagedevving and then enginedevving in your language

>>171013162
What an inspiration you are, OP, to posting progress with your no-effort OP.

>>171013417
I couldn't remember all the other shit that is supposed to go in the post. Plus, I myself haven't made any progress since my last progress post.

So I want to dev for a bit but I have no ideas. What do I do?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGIKrD7uHu8
This has some cool shit

>>171013550
>not just fucking copying the text from the previous thread
I see you are an enginedev.

Reminder to do this:
>List<Prop> props;
>List<Item> items;
>List<Character> characters;

And not this:
>List<Entity> entities;

>>171013592
Use assets to make a generic game, like a CoD style FPS. It'll get your creativity out and not be of value or any real work in the end.

>>171013653
>not making a list for each individual entity

>>171013653
wat

>>171013778
Of course if you only have one entity of a type, you should just store it by itself (like the player). If you have a fixed number, you should just use an array.

>>171013863
Props don't do anything, they just sit and render. Why lump them in with entities that do other things so that you have to use an interface with an empty method and introduce a lot of overhead as well as pain since you can't work with the type directly, it has to be through an overriden method?

>>171013669
Eh, but then I would have to get a 3d engine and most likely install visual studio.

>>171012992

what's the diference between the OOP approach and the component one in terms of performance?

I mean, making all that complex component design versus simply iterating the entities usign a foreach loop?

>>171013994
Naw, Unreal doesn't require Visual Studio. Also, just use sprites to make a generic platformer in your 2D engine.

Can someone please explain to me the differences between Maya and 3DS Max? Is one more suited to certain types of games than the other? If so, what?

>>171014030
In terms of performance the naive OOP approach is awful. Virtual method calls for everything, many of which do nothing, no opportunities to optimize for cache, etc.

Popular incarnations of ECS (putting every component in a massive table or something like what Unity does where each entity has a list of components) are just as bad.

>>171013162
A garbage OP for a garbage general.

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>>171014276
Get out.

>>171013653
>actact.c:152:5 expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '<' token
>List<Prop> props;
>actact.c:153:5 expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '<' token
>List<Item> items;
>actact.c:154:5 expected '=', ',', ';', 'asm' or '__attribute__' before '<' token
>List<Character> characters;

It didn't work :/

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>>171014367
>unironically using C

>>171014339
A garbage defense for a garbage OP for a garbage general.

Actual Garbage Dump General

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>>171014447
A garbage reply from a garbage poster.

Please end your life.

>>171014030
>>171014148
Also I don't see how the component approach is complex. The main loop is more involved (though still straightforward), but overall it's much simpler and more flexible.

>>171014434
I like it.

Proper thread
>>171013770
>>171013770

>>171014148
>>171014565
can you guys give me a small tidbid of code showing how is used?

or some youtube lecture about it?

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>come up with clever algorithm to handle a problem
>it requires a numerical derivative
>you only have function values on a unstructured mesh

>>171014529
Is the little trash man upset that he lives in a pile of trash? Boohoo.

>>171014752
I came up with that structure myself, but there's nothing special to it. It's pretty standard for procedural or functional programming.

If you have a specific problem in mind that you can't see how to implement, I'd be happy to walk you through it.

>Code being ignored in two if statements and not running
>For loops always out of bounds when they aren't

Unity is trash

>>171014935
You're trash. Learn how to use your tools.

Hmm so this is the shitposting thread right?

>>171015008
>Learn how to use your tools
>When the code is structured so correctly even babys first java program could run it

You're shit anon. Where's your game nigger?

>>171015030
It will be the actual thread if people keep feeding it posts. There can only be one general per subject and the general that 'lives' is the one with the largest post count when a janitor comes by.

Pixel artist here

Taking more requests for drawings for their game

here is the last one I did for an Anon
>>171014584

>>171014928
yeah, I guess is basically making every class about a diferent component.

but how do you iterate through the enemies by example?

>>171014682
People like this thread, fuck off.

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Any ideas for makes first person stealth fun?

I'm not doing any see-through wall shit. I will probably attach a light to the front of enemies though, so you can know which direction they are facing by their light cone.

>>171015218
Well, you pick what components enemies should have, and you iterate through them, calling the systems on the components. If you find that you can group the enemies based on the presence of components further, break down the enemy class again.

>>171015370
Make thief gold again

>>171015064
kek

>>171015321
First they came for the OP pasta, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not the OP...

>>171015370
Yeah, you can start by not using basic controls, that shit kills fun. I hate the basic Unity controls, they feel so awkward, develop your own unique controls that add a certain level of fun and difficulty, your game will be 10x better.

>>171015370
TECHNOLOGY, i.e. lots of ways to interact with the environment to get past guards.

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>>171015435
That's what I'm doing.

>>171015370
nice art heist clone (or whatever that game was called)

>>171015582
GOOD JOB FOR SWITCHING TO UNREAL.

can you make 3d models in UE4 or do I need Blender or Maya to make the levels of the game?

>>171014935
>>171015064
If the code itself isn't to blame I know exactly what your problem is and I'm not going to tell you the solution since you seem to think it's the tools fault and not your own for failing to learn how to properly use the tool, you need to learn the hard way. Sucker.

>>171015582
Whack a Planar Reflection actor on that floor

>>171015698
Generally you make the models externally and then import them to UE4 to make the levels.

Though UE4 does have a mediocre BSP tool which can make basic geometry.

>screen space reflections
>planar reflections
>not doing reflections as part of global illumination

>>171015404
I'm not getting it, basically I need to make a for loop to iterate through every component.

In the end I need to make a loop to iterate.

I'm not getting it still, pls forgive me.

>>171014242
>game wildly oscillates hundreds of fps

Talk about inconsistent performance.

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>>171015582
First, stop using that crosshair, it gives me a very FPS-esque vibe. Here's a script you can put in your HUD blueprint that'll just a basic circle in the middle, it looks better than Unity's, trust me, or I can make you a crosshair if you don't like the dot in the middle approach.

>>171015698
You should create modular components outside UE4 and put them together in UE4.

>>171015905
You don't iterate through the components, you iterate through the entities. Yes, you have multiple for loops instead of one, but the individual loops are 1) iterating over smaller lists and 2) doing less work inside. Even ignoring the gains you can make in terms of cache-friendly data layout and branch coherence, you will do less work overall because you aren't calling lots of virtual methods that are implemented to do nothing for many of your entities.

>>171016060
>having a crosshair at all

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>>171016060
I've already moved away from using the crossair. That is an older webm. Plus, all art is just placeholder. I've got actual gameplay and enemies to design first.

>>171016172
If he's doing a bank-robbery game, you need something to help indicate that your pointed in the right direction. I hate those first person indie games without crosshairs that expect you to pick shit up, giving you no indication you are actually hovered over the object.

>>171016283
>not doing the classic "sharpie on clear tape" trick

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>>171015698
You'll want to do it with Maya or Blender then export to UE4. You can block things out in engine with BSP volumes, but you'd never want to make final 3d models that way.

>>171016208
Well, use my blueprint, the crosshair is slightly bigger, and better looking. (don't ask how, for some reason it just looks better)

>>171016283
In that case an icon with the action to be performed should be shown, but having a crosshair 24/7 is unnecessary in a non-shooter.

>>171016358
Floating text that indicates you can pick something up and that your hovered over it pisses me off severely.

>>171016460
Yeah, but I just feel lost without it, it gives me a sense of knowledge at what i'm looking at. It's nice to have.

>>171016208
By the way, those icons that appear to pick things up should be transparent images, it makes them looks better and it gets in the way less.

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How would you guys feel about a whole game made with no textures?

With proper lighting and shadows, I don't think it looks that bad.

>>171015845
>>171016149
>>171016403
Thanks for the information guys I wasn't sure because I am learning Blender right now and I already know programming but need to learn how to make art before I can start making my game

>>171016587
That shelf clearly has a texture.

>>171016587
It would be extremely painful to look at.

Is this the next step in lazy nu-male game design?

>>171016731
check your texture privilege shitlord

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whats her name?

3d modeler here

Taking requests to make models for your game

Big thanks to the guy who gave me the tip for the laser trails!
I just detached the children now before destroying the parent, which made them fade out. Finally.

>>171016731
you're acting like it hasn't already happened

Which is the best 2D game engine?

>>171016943
Cybernetic cardboard box

>>171017035
Your own.

>>171017035
Paid: GM
Free: Godot

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Can anyone help me out? Using Unity and for some reason I cant individually edit any keyframes - whenever I change a setting on one its shared by all other keyframes in the clip.

is Blender made for aliens?

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>>171017117
Get out of here you Godot's Witness.

>>171017168
not even aliens want to use blender

>>171017179
I use GM but GM ain't free.

>>171015715
Thanks for the (You)s no dev nigger

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>>171017168
yes

>>171017264
Blender is pretty fun to use

>>171017168
It's the classic FOSS "we are freedom fighters so we can't follow any established conventions and instead need to reinvent the wheel in very unintuitive ways" meme.

>>171010916

I hope this wasn't an actual attempt at pixel art because this is fucking garbage.

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>>171016403
NANI?!

>>171017168
what, you mean you don't like having an avalanche of pointless information shown and crucial information hidden brhind menus? That's crazy man.
You know you can remap controls to match maya/3dsmax etc., right

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>>171017320
alrighty gonna stick to 2D

>>171017168
Blender is made for aliens in the same way Maya, 3ds max, uv unwrapping, topology, rigging etc is made for aliens.

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Well, someone help me. My movement script isn't working, the character is taking input because I have mouse movement and jumping setup in the same blueprint. My axis movements are setup in the project settings. What is the fucking issue?

>>171017507
Why isn't there an easy to use and learn 3d software modeling software? Whoever first makes an easy one to use and learn will become rich

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>>171017496
use 3ds max anon
is way better

>>171017507
I love this "Blender is a huge fucking mess because 3D is inherently complicated and totally not because it's just a poorly designed tool" meme.

>>171013353
>not langaugedevving then osdevving in your langauge then enginedevving in your langauge and then gamedevving a game that only works on your OS

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----[ Recap ]----
Game: Jinzo
Dev: nurikabe
Tools: Unity, Tiled, SAI
Web: https://nurikabe.itch.io/jinzo
Progress:
+DD13 released.
-Returned to the industry. Will keep working on this project with spare time, but won't visit the thread often.

>>171017608
is 3ds max free like Blender?

>>171017623
it is poorly designed though

>Jannies delete the thread with actual progress and minimal shitposting

>>171017660
Best of luck in your productions, anon. I'm rooting for you!

>>171017720
nop
1000 walls per year
i guess there is a cheaper way , but i cant find it

>>171017608
what the actual fuck did I just watch?

>>171017608
I was hoping it would turn into a trash bin to throw a 3D blender logo in.

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Daily reminder to use simple geometry and minimalistic, hand drawn textures.

Complex geometry and photosource textures age like shit.

>>171017721
The thread itself was shitposting

>>171017721
It happens dozens of times a year it's not that surprising.

>>171017123
Nvm, found the fix
The red selection is what I am changing, highlighting it doesn't actually do anything

>>171017876
man i never played a game that looked soo good, but begged for normal maps

i guess ps2 could not handle it but you can SEE that all the simple geometry was made with normal maps in mind

>>171017648
Nah. Just like how you don't finish an engine and then make a game with it, at most I would make the game itself bootable without an OS. But that would involve writing my own drivers.

you guys complain about everything

>Rixels Mixels whatever they are
>Java
>Blender
>Engine wars
>dog and frog posters
>Gogem

The list goes on and on

Reminder to break down your game into several assets to sell in the store, they will be more profitable than the game itself.

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>all these nodev scrubbos wishing they were me
Heh. Keep wishing scrubblins.

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>>171017660
Here is a logo you can use.

>>171018346
That logo looks like shit anon

>>171018346
>neon
anon...

>>171013162
Why doesn't agdg have jams in /v/? too scared?

>>171018203
Muh artistic integrity

>>171018419
>>171018410
>that logo looks like shit

What would you prefer?

>>171018475
/v/ has turned into extreme shitposting here is much less

>>171018475
people too retarded to find us will not be missed

>>171018346
Does that font license allow such uses?

>>171018475
What do you mean? Why would we invite /v/ randoms to jams?

>>171018639
Yes. It's free use.

>tfw great artistic sense and taste but bad at drawing

where do I start learning how to program?

You have 20 seconds to sell me on your game

>>171018868
Derek Banas and Jake Wright.

Check out their YouTube channels.

>>171018873
It's the same game you loved as a child but different

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>>171018843
this sounds like one of those
>tfw too intelligent to
posts

>>171017660
Godspeed, anon! See you later!

>industry
Which one?

>>171018968
I'm serious and absolutely right though.

>>171018873
We're not playing your shitty game, anon.

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Just finished magazine loading and pistol racking.
Going full /k/ autism with the firearm mechanics.

>>171018873
King's Field clone

>>171019132
looks good

>>171019132
Are these mechanics necessary for the game's fun factor?

>>171019132
Holy shit, what engine are you using?

>>171019213
It makes the game look pretty, so shut the fuck up and clap for this anon.

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Welp, heres some placeholder trees. This is progress right? These sprites will have to hold for now. Tomorrow I start working on proper level generation instead of this half assed mess.

>>171019132
"It's like Exanima with guns" - Adam Kovic

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>>171019210
thanks

>>171019213
absolutely

>>171019267
Unreal

>>171019397
YES! UNREAL FOR THE WIN! UNREAL IS SO BETTER THAN UNITY!

>>171019315
The trunks look fine but it's weird how the leaves are perfect squares, learn neighbor-aware tiles

so far all the best looking 2d games here have been in Game Maker and the best 3d looking games in UE4

really makes you think

>>171019546
Yeah, most people using Game Maker could be spending their time using Clickteam Fusion 2.5, and good job to anyone using Unreal and NOT Unity.

>>171019546
GM doesn't even have any competition.

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>>171019605
>Clickteam Fusion 2.5

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Something feels really off about my run animation, and being new to 2D sprite animation, I cant tell what it is.

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can you fags stop arguing about engines already?

where's my game?

>>171019132
what 3d modeling software are you using to make the models and levels?

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>>171019063
>Which one?

>>171019734
Arms and legs should have parallel motions. Right now they're out of sync. Try walking and noticing it on your own body.

>>171020060
>Try walking
No one told me devving would be this hard.

>>171020189
The best animation reference is yourself.

>>171019734
Its stiff, especially the head and upper torso regions

>>171016587
sounds like Receiver

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I got saving working, so at the moment, nature and chest inventories will properly be remembered if you quit/restart. But now my lumber is disobeying gravity...

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Added a small 0.05 frame bounce when it updates the tooltip

kinesthetiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiics

>>171020386
looks like a resizing bug

>>171020343
work on your Resident Evil game! It is better

>>171020015
Makehuman for the character meshes, blender for everything else. Levels are done in unreal.

>>171020506
>When you add features it looks like bugs

What's the most TECHNOLOGY /agdg/ game?

>>171020246
only if you want to animate someone who's your body type
men and women also walk and run completely differently

>>171020704
The one where the characters are physics driven and currently made out of boxes.

>>171020596
90% of the feedback I received disagrees

>>171016060
Is anyone gonna help me?

>>171020704
dungeon break
pour one out homies

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>>171020879
i thought you poured things out for dead things

>>171021041
how do you make games like this

>>171021041
Woah
How do I add technology like this to my game

>>171021204
Stop being yourself, it'll work wonders.

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----[ Recap ]----
Game: Space Dementia
Dev: rez
Tools: SFML/C++
Web: N/A
+ Added rocket launcher
+ Added boomerang
+ Buffed flamethrower and freezing
+ You can freeze water to create drift ice
+ Added upgrade for movement on zipline
+ Fixed light rendering

>>171019734
that's the worst run animation I've seen yet.

Legs at an angle mean a different height for the chest and the head. Head bob is not an invention of FPS games, it comes from pictures of actual moving humans.

Left arm extends at same time right leg extends, and exact opposite for other arm. You have him doing some autistic spastic nonsense flailing where his arm movements serve no purpose whatsoever.

For some reason he only uses one of his feet for running, the other you drew him running on his fucking HEEL. He'd have to have a crippled leg to run like that, but it would be a bad animation of a crippled person's limp as well. Use twice the number of keyframes or at least choose less stupid ones.

>>171015141
are u still here? Im deving House Cleaner, would be cool if u wanted to draw somethng

>>171018540
>>171018617
>>171018671
y'all scared

>>171021562
Yes I am still here

What is House Cleaner?

Anything you have in mind?

>>171017407
Blender is the most user intuitive 3d modelling program.

What you actually described was Zbrush.

Isn't Blender's interface, let's say, unique because Autodesk holds a bunch of patents for their UI?

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Handpainting stuff is fun.

>>171021925
oh my bad, it's in the demo day if u want to check it out
https://shotgun-anaconda.itch.io/house-cleaner

Basically a shooter where a young denzel washington kills a bunch of meth producing rednecks.

Did you mean like usable sprites or fanart piece (cuz thats what i was thinking about lol)

>>171022382
>has enough of a budget to bevel the edges of the fucking grip but still makes cylinders into hexagonal prisms

>Ask reddit a question
>Hurr durr you don't know how to do this you should probably give up you can't do it anyways condescending tier dickgulping
>Ask /agdg/ a question
>Shitposting from nodevs and shitters without a game to dev or have probably given up with little to no helpful advice at all

You're all faggots

>>171022586
You don't hold the barrels you hold the grip. Who'd want a sharp grip?

>>171022586
>budget

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>>171021295
Here's a logo you can use.

>>171022675
Polygon budget you faggot.

>>171022664
t b h the best help and advice ive gotten has come from the engines own forums/communities.

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Instead of being a drunk asshole today, I decided to make a page break indicator animation

>>171022572
both usable sprites or fanart just list a few ideas

RIP thread.

>>171022854
why is my brain trying to convince me it's rotating when it's just squishing in and out

>not modelling with splines/patches and using tessellation when rendering
Is this 2017 or 2007?

>>171022696
That's neat, thanks anon
Might be the first fanart if that counts

>>171023086
It is actually rotating

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>>171016587
I would take a better understanding of art than most have.
Or to be more specific: Understanding of shapes.

>>171022876
if you can draw the player sitting on a bunch (imagine that scen from Breaking bad with the money in the storage) of money with bags of coke on the floor that would be really awesome. is that possible?

>>171023107
Are you not gonna use it?

>>171022854
also it's really fun to try and make it rotate in different directions, kinda like that one old silhouette gif
>>171023146
fukken magic

>>171023240
I might use it, but for now all UI including title screen are placeholders, no need to place my name anywhere.

RIP thread again.

>>171023552
What are you talking about?
Is this some kind of meme?

>>171023537
Okay, are you not gonna have a pre-game splash screen? You can put your name there, it would display before the main menu.

>>171023665
For now that's exactly what I don't want because it adds time to quick test runs, but in the public builds, sure.

>>171019132
These graphics look really good, especially for a game that seems like it could just be done with sprites.

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didn't have time to finish her yet, sorry anon

>>171019315
10/10 would play instead of World of Tanks.

How difficult is it to learn unity if your only previous experience in game development and programming is Game Maker and C++?

>>171024504
piss easy

>>171024504
If you have C++ knowledge, you can master Unreal engine. It's a way better engine, anyway.

>>171024094
Same original anon here

It looks pretty good

>>171024089
Thanks. There's way more to it. I might make some more webms tomorrow.

>>171024613
If you are encouraging him into using Unity, you are the biggest douchebag in the world.

>>171018914

thanks, friend

>>171016920
My wife's sister.

>>171024504
Why would you ever want to use Unity when UE4 exists?

>>171024635
>>171024950
I don't know the advantages / disadvantages of either. But everyone seems to use Unity.

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>>171017168
>tfw no ayy with you

>>171025061
That is one advantage to unity.

>>171025061
That's because they know nothing. Unity is horrible, Unreal has a better physics engine, sound engine, lighting engine, UI, better everything. Unreal's sound engine LITERALLY has 3D sound, it simulates sound waves traveling so if enabled, you can only hear things within a certain range. Great for stealth games, you can setup enemies to go on alert when they hear a certain noise, but you can use the simulated sound engine to limit how far they can hear the noise.

I enjoy this sound engine meme.

>>171017407
Blender is one of the most intuitive programs I have ever used

>>171025297
I enjoy this everything is a meme meme.

>>171016403
How would you make final models then?

>>171025061
The one and only advantage of unity is the marketplace. Which is pretty much irrelevant if you're not making an asset-flip game.

UE4 is so fucking far ahead of unity it's not even funny. It's also ridiculously easy to use.

>>171019132
Looking good so far.

>>171025448
one problem though

Installing unity takes 5 years and it doesn't install properly most of the time *rubs hands*

Threadly reminder that slows a no dev nigger

>>171025251
>>171025448
ok, you've convinced me

>>171017984
>spoiler
That is enlightening. I'll have to try to remember that next time I bother myself with the unity animator. It sure would explain a lot of the fuckups I've had with it.

>>171025647
The difference is their distribution plans and how they affect how much you make when you sell your game. Unity is a one time fee while unreal is a fuckhuge % of all sales

can roguelites even be linear

the one thing i've noticed that all roguelites have in common besides permadeath and random shit, is they're all pretty explorable.

I'm thinking about ways I can make my game more fast paced, but I feel like that's really hard to do when you're either backtracking or exploring areas. I want to make the player keep moving forward, but I'm not sure you can even have that if you make the game somewhat open-world. Are there any roguelites that exist that are very linear?

>>171025837
I'd rather use Unity than since I know my game is going to sell a lot

a royalty deal is going to suck the blood out of your company no thanks

>>171025837
Unity has a monthly fee.

>>171025251
>Physics engine

UE4 has the same physics engine

>>171025837
>5%
>fuckhuge

kek

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>>171024001
Most engines only run the level being edited, so that won't be an issue. Here, a transparent splash screen you can use.

>>171026018
>5% on gross
>so 35% is going to steam and Epic
>half goes to tax

>>171025972
Roguelikes often have "soft" time limits like hunger or thirst to prod the player into continuing forward. Just make them more significant.

>>171021668
Why doesn't /v/ hold jams?

>>171026124
You need to get permission from Epic to use their logo in your splash screen

A genius move, frankly.

>>171025972
just make your enemy and loot placement random.

Look at Dragons Crown

>>171026169
Yeah, that shouldn't be a problem, if your game sells well. If it doesn't then you need to run back to the drawing board and do something better.

>>171025972
Sure, you can have a game that's a linear series of rooms, no exploration, and add in permadeath and procgen.

>>171026004
assuming you reach the $100k threshold where you NEED to buy, the royalty % winds up being less than 1%. It's more if you buy immediately once you launch.

>>171026169
No idea why you bring Steam and tax into this. That's completely irrelevant.

>>171026257
I thought RNG was bad

>>171026248
So, you need to ask to credit them? Although, they get you in trouble if you don't credit them.

Make up your fucking mind, Epic Games.

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I will do sprites for your game
please respond

>>171026446
32x32 grass tile, keep it soft and easy on the eyes

>>171026410
A splash screen isn't a credit but an advertisement.

If your game is shit they don't particularly want that association.

>>171020818
everyone said my game was shit but i didnt give up anon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_z-cXdFMByM

never give up

reach your dreams

they will suck at the end but you can aways have a laugh

>>171026340
Because that 5% is cutting directly into your already slim profits.

You could just use Unity and not worry about it.

>>171024635
If we don't know C++ yet is it still worth it to use Unreal over Unity? I only know java and python but I'm pretty sure C# is much closer to java

>>171026446
Better be willing to help me depict some lewd girls for my sexy text game.

>>171026410
It's just for the splash screen.
This is smart because a shitty shovelware game won't ruin their brand like Unity.
People associate Unity with shit because of the forced splash screen.
People can only associate Unreal with (decent) quality games that are allowed to show their logo.

>>171026248
So, don't use their logo in the splash screen, just put "DEVELOPED IN UNREAL ENGINE 4" in the credits of your game, and everything is alright. Your game's splash screen can just me the logo I sent you, but it fades in and fades out briefly after, you can play a sound file with it to make it more interesting, like the Valve intro, but since it's space, you can do, like, free-use night sounds. Crickets and shit. The audio file fades in and out with the image.

>>171026446
128x128 attack walker mech

>>171026618
I'd say yes.

>>171026598
>You could just pay $75 each month for god knows how long and not worry about it

double kek

>>171026361
eh... didnt u say roguelite? it's a rng genre.

>>171026618
Yeah, Unreal has an alternative called blueprints, little nodes you plug into each other that represent blocks of C++ code. Easy and understandable.

>>171026746
Unity is free nigger

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too gay or not gay enough?

>>171025837
5% for a fully-fledged professional game engine is not fuckhuge by any metric. If your game is successful at all you'll have more than enough for yourself.

>>171026829
C++ is easy to understand

anyone can code good programs in C++ it is probably the easiest programming language to master

>>171026746
>Anyone making over 100k on unity games
>Even on the off chance they did that fee would apply to multiple games if they kept making more games in the same engine without a % fee per game

>>171026867
Unity also sucks metric tons of gorilla cock.

>>171026916
50%

>>171026916
depends on the context

>>171026679
Wait, that wasn't me. Does it even make sense when my game is not made in UE4?
On the other note I should really add option to start the game right from given map in dev mode.

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>>171027056
enjoy giving epic your 5% faggot

>>171026653
Most of the time, something produced with Unreal won't be shovelware.

>>171026598
Unity' licensing scheme is nowhere as fucking cheap or simple as you guys always say it is.

https://blogs.unity3d.com/2016/06/16/evolution-of-our-products-and-pricing/

Unity Plus: $35/month
UE4: 5% fee

5% of $700 = $35

You need to make more than $700/month for Unity to be cheaper than UE4.

>>171027057
>>171027120
perfect!

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>mfw all these newfags are going to fall for the unreal meme because our two dedicated shitposters were bored

All the best looking 3d games are made in Unreal

Unreal also has the best money percentage cut compared to other engines

It is a no brainer

>>171027152
Enjoy making a garbage game

>>171027152
epic, absolutely epic!

>>171027268
UE4 doesn't take anything unless you make over $3000 in a quarter.

>>171025251
>>171025448
Ok, now I really need to know. If Unreal is that much better, then why is it not the most used engine? There's gotta be something there no one is mentioning.

It can't be that the best engine that is so much easier to use and far ahead in technology by miles is not used because people don't know about it. A couple indie devs I get it, but when entire companies doesn't really bother to switch to unreal, or even decides to choose Unity over Unreal, there must be something missing in your argument.

If you make $700/month you don't pay any royalties with UE4

>>171027268
but you only pay unity if you make more than 100k

>>171027453
Or if you don't want a gayass "made in unity" splash that ruins any chances of your game being taken seriously.

>>171027268
Both of them only charges if you make a minimum amount of money, so Unity will always be cheaper if not the same price(free).

>>171027420
It is less beginner friendly, that's about the only reason I can see.

>>171027535
well you can make a TOTALY NOT image and then put over the made in unity

>>171027396
$1000 per month then, not a huge difference.

>>171027420
It sucks for mobile (only high end mobile devices really work and file sizes are large compared to Unity) and has less community resources.

That's really it.

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>don't make a game
>don't have to pay any licensing fees

Yesdevs literally on suicide watch right now.

>>171027669
At $1000/month you'd still pay nothing

>>171027642
A DD13 game had that.

>something to do with love dev didn't make it
there's no hope for me

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Alright the logs are behaving better now. Items can also properly stack, although I think I'm going to make item durability display differently than a percentage. Maybe a bar, like most games do.

>>171027690
And if your doing a mobile game it's better to use an engine with less overhead than Unity anyway.

I struggle to see the benefits of Unity besides being popular.

>>171027152
5%...

I get 95%. Say, I make $10,000,000 (this is a hypothetical question, just roll with it).

>>171027420
The only reason it's not most-used is because a lot of starters use Unity to get feel for game deving and most game devs are just starters now-a-days. They make $500,000. Guess how much I make? $9,500,000. Dipshit, it's beneficial to Epic Games and me. Great engine gives me the ability to make a great game, in return I present it $500,000 to continue operating. This is why Unreal is better than Unity. Here's the thing, they won't take a penny if I make less than $3,000.

What are some good resources for programming 2D physics?

>>171027832
Nice exhibitionist lumberjack simulator

>>171027798
1 quarter = 3 months

3 x 1000 = 3000

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>>171027816
witch one?

>>171027841
Supporting multiple non-Windows platforms is easier in Unity.

I'd never go back to it after UE4 though.

>>171027583
>>171027690
This is why I said a couple indie devs, ok. But why would companies not use Unreal? It can't be because it is not beginner friendly or there is not enough community resources.

>>171027941
Haha, thanks for the working title anon

>>171027959
You pay 5% on the amount over $3000

>>171028005
They do

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>>171028041
Cheers

>>171028005
Probably because they have an in-house engine already. Such a company might still want to use Unity, though, because they don't want to deal with mobile porting themselves.

The only people who say UE4 is better are people who are not smart enough to program in C# in Unity and have to resort to blueprint meme logic to make their game work

>>171027420
Unity is super old, people are used to it. UE4 is new and entire companies are actually making games on it. Might have heard about street fighter 5, tekken 7, Kingdom Hearts 3, Ace Combat 7, Ark: Survival Evolved, Dead Island 2, Conan Exiles, Dragon Quest XI, Psychonauts 2, Shenmue 3 etc etc etc

UE4 is relatively new and it takes years to make games. There's a huge ass wave of big ue4 games coming

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>>171026504
here you go anon

>>171027880
You ain't making 1kk nigga, you will be paying 35% to Steam+Epic and then paying about 45% of income tax depending on your country which leaves you with $292500.

>>171027535
Oh no are people not going to take your game SERIOUSLY?

Jesus Christ kid.

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>>171028210
Pretty much this but we're stuck with them

>>171028210
C# is worthlessly abstracted m$ proprietary shitware

>>171028210
>blueprint meme logic
Blueprint meme MAGIC.
There's no logic in Blueprint, anon. Everyone knows that.

>>171027880
>most game devs are just starters
>companies like Nintendo hires other companies that uses Unity to make games for them
If Unreal was so visibly better, wouldn't they hire a better company/the company use the better engine?

>>171028280
If you don't want your game being taken seriously then why are you talking about potential profit?

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>>171026504
>>171028254
this is how it looks like

>>171028005
UE4 is powering lots of games:
-Crackdown 3
-Days Gone
-Dragon Quest XI
-Eve Valkyrie
-FF7 Remake
-Gears 4
-Kingdom Hearts 3
-Let It Die
-Street Fighter 5
-Shenmue 3
-Tekken 7

among a bunch of indieshit

>>171028407
Because Unity targets Nintendo platforms. UE4 doesn't.

>>171028429
Get the fuck over yourself.

When is the next agdg jam

which platforms can UE4 port to?

>>171026446
I only need sprites for GUI stuff right now and I can make those myself but if you are up for designing literally over a hundred characters then let's talk I guess

>>171028429
>>171027535
>the game will fail because of a splash screen

You guys are really out of arguments huh

>>171028619
Mac, Linux, IOS, windows, ps4, xbone, switch, android

>>171013162
lean OP
I like it

>>171028638
Name one successful Unity Free Edition (For Kids!) game.

>>171028669
it can't port to nintendo?

Into the trash it goes

>>171028638
The splash screen is a shit game filter, no good Unity games have the splash screen because successful ones hit the revenue cap and remove it before they're even out of beta.

>>171028210
>program in C#
>program
>in
>C#

Haha

>>171028501
>>171028246
>among a bunch of indieshit
Like what? This is the thing I am interested in, since I am a indiedev. I want to know if there is any indiedev that made it big with Unreal.

From what I have seen, nothing is simple in Unreal, so it really is hard for a indiedev to make anything worthwhile in it.

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>mfw i can make a completely functional snake game in less than 35 minutes.

i think i am gonna make it haha :D

>>171028517
UE4 already supports the switch

>>171028769
just because you never EVER going to make a game that is better than the last zelda game, doesnt mean you cant make good games for the system

Unreal is better in every shape or form. They take 5%? Oh yeah, like 5% will make a huge impact in the grand scheme of making money. 5% of your earnings to help support the company and further the game development community, yeah so bad. Say, I make $20,000 off my game. Epic Games makes $1,000 while I keep $19,000. Wow, a loss of $1,000 compared to the $19K I receive. Big deal. You are furthering yourself AND the company by losing $1,000. Fucking babies.

>>171028407
Big companies like Nintendo use Unity because their staff is so experienced and so large that 1 person only has to develop 27 assets (scripts and models) to help finish the game. No one has to worry about the shit that Unity because they don't spend too much time in the engine and can keep all the fucking money they made for themselves. Smaller companies or lone devs use Unreal because they WOULD have to deal with Unity's shit.

>>171028885
:)

Why doesn't your game feature gore?

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>>171028464
>>171028254
Thank you anon but it's hurting my eyes.

>>171028979
Different guy but try applying a low pass filter

>>171028769
>>171028953

Nintendo is using UE4

http://www.polygon.com/2017/2/7/14533324/nintendo-switch-unreal-engine-miyamoto

>>171028979
You should probably tone the contrast down, the dark green is too dark and the light green is too light.

>>171028907
Well I imagine Nintendo isn't going to be ready to get 3rd parties making Switch exclusive games for a while.

Unity supports 3DS and Wii U AND Switch. Which makes sense, because Unity is targeted more toward low end hardware whereas UE4 is targeted more toward high end hardware.

In any case, backed up reasons for UE4 being better than Unity aren't nullified by Unity being more popular than UE4.

I haven't gotten any work done since last friday when I found an /adgd/ for help with an issue I was facing. No one helped me and on top of it I got addicted to just sitting and helping other people/arguing.

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>>171029108
that explains the frame rate on zelda

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>>171028979
try it out now, it's should be almost seamless now

>>171020049
Nice.

>>171028741
>>171028825
>hit the revenue cap and remove it before they're even out of beta.
Which is what always happens. It won't stop autists from recognizing your game as a Unity game though so why even waste mental energy over the matter?

>>171028962
>Nintendo uses Unity because it is so good you shit out games with AAA quality and get to keep the money for yourself

>>171029043
>try blurring pixel art

>>171028527
There's apparently lolijam, although idk who is hosting that because there's no way itch would allow that.
There's also the Rush Hour jam which was sort of made in protest of the lolijam.
Both name start on the same day which is like 20 days or something.

Memes aside, is there anything wrong with memepoly?
I genuinely like it for what it is, an easy way to make something that looks alright.