/twg/ - Total War General

I saw a vision of Gilles le Breton. He told me you were a faggot.

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Thousands are dead, Marienburg has fallen.

>>170980478

marienburg genocide best day of my life

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Total War: The Hobbit when?

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>>170980478

The post battle report, Bretonnia/Wood Elf co-op is fun.

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>half a dozen campaigns "incomplete" but I'm the dominant power and no one will realistically challenge me

>a dozen campaigns half way through where i'm a middle power but lose interest

How can I regain my motivation /twg/ ?

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See OP picture
>what a shit picture, what does that have to do with total war they really fucked this u-
bright wizards edition
>hehehe

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Yeah you know what, fuck Bret infantry

This was WITH flanking/envelopment too, on normal difficulty

>>170980679

>top 10 anime betrayals.jpg

>>170980561
Never, so we can forget that movie existed

>>170980712
WE IZ BETTER THAN THEM

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>>170980561
Hopefully never. The movies were garbage

>>170980561
>best scene in the movie
>it's a deleted scene

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>>170980895
>>170980796
but it'd be so epic

>>170981026
>Jumping in front of pikes.
Uuuuuuuuuuh

>>170981026
>brace spears against a charge
>glory seeking fools jump over the lines and into the charge; putting the spears into their backs
elves are dumbasses

>>170981026

yeah hella epic man XD

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It is now March. Athel Loren grows restive, casting aside the austere serenity of Gaurach-Dúin. The boughs and brambles tremble, and through the glades and hollows the spites whisper of Spring.

The Eternal Queen, recumbent in her pleasure, awaits the attentions of her rejuvenated Consort-King. The first outriding of the cycle yields rich game, youths flush with the iridescent bloom of pox and prepubescence. Cherry blossoms flutter their brief glories across the Eternal Realm. And still more. The fey giggle of a return, a recovery of what was once lost. The sacred trustees, deputized by their Queen to carry out the vulgar realities of reign, are poised to return from the Dreaming Wood.

Sisters of Twilight Soon.

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>>170980419
ROLLAN!

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Oh for the love of Christ...

HOW SHIT CAN YOU GET?

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>>170981290

Fuck that WHERE ARE THE TOMB KANGS?

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ahh the great outdoors

>>170981290
>Sisters of Twilight Soon.
keking with the force of a thousand suns

>>170981290

m8 this is just fucking uncalled for.

>>170981357
>tfw their roster is going to be gutted on release

no way are we gettin all them cool sand monstars

>>170981332
Gobbos rule.

>>170981291
Rollie olie.

>>170981414

Probably. Tomb Kings have a rather large list of units.

Warriors of Chaos take the cake however, their army book is just filled to the brim with unit options. They could release at least 3 unit packs for them.

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How exactly can they support 5, 20 unit stacks with only 1 settlement?

>>170981414

I wonder what theyll do about the casket of souls. From what I remember it couldnt be moved? and also anyone with line of sight to it was attacked by ghosties?

probably just exclude it

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SIGMARINES
TODAY THE ENEMY IS AT OUR DOOR

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FUCK BRET INFANTRY GOD DAMN IT

>>170981883

Anon what are you expecting they are supposed to be trash.

It sucks ass that Warhammer doesn't have the destruction mechanics of Attila. I want to use my hellcanons to burn the city down before I assualt the walls.

>>170981572

Looks like they own Magritta as well, don't they? It's like Miragliano and Marienburg; cash cows that give a ton of dosh.

>>170981941
Not foot squires

Stop playing fantasy

>>170982594

Foot Squires are acceptable, they're also outnumbered there 3:1.

"Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield" translates to "USE HEAVY CAV TO WIN BATTLES YOUR INFANTRY IS TRASH"

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>>170982689

>>170981026
epic... epic for then win!

>>170982710
But they're a higher-tier unit, the points cost of the battle is equal

>>170982774
Surtha Ek on the prowl

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new historical tw game when?

>>170982980

Yes, you pay a higher price for an infantry unit that will be able to hold the line for a bit longer, so your cavalry can still do all the work.

>>170982980
you are an idiot, I don't even know if I should bother explaining to you why

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>>170981860
SUMMON HIGH LORDS
I AM PRIMARCH AND LORD COMMANDER

>>170983074
>this high tier, armoured and anti-infantry unit SHOULD lose against goblin spearmen because they're MEANT to lose

Just because a unit might be more useful in a certain role (anvil) doesn't mean it should be completely outclassed by any and all infantry

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What the fuck are these cunts up to?

>>170983280

It's clearly not outclassed. Foot Squires quite obviously destroy Goblins just by looking at those casualties.

But you know, dudes get tired from swinging their swords, and it's pretty fucking hard for 720 men to cut through 2280 goblins.

Maybe if some of those dudes were riding armored horses and using lances they could cause mass casualties on a charge and win a battle right there.

>>170981290
Every day I am reminded that I miss Rejoicefag.

>>170983423

They send stacks your way to fuck you up early. They can sometimes be distracted by other enemies along the way which is good.

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>>170983514
Rejoice! cuz da boss got yoos a 'elmet

>>170983460
But muh peasant's crusade is hopeless now, if I can't beat gobbos then I can't beat shit

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Rock the boat!

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Lizardmen are the best!

>>170983945

>A crusade without Crusaders

Anon a stack of peasants isn't a crusade it's a fucking migration.

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QUICKLY NOW /twg/, WHAT'S YOUR 3 FAVOURITE (SUB-)FACTIONS IN TWW?

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warhammer campaign fun rankings for a first playthrough: orcs > brets > wood elves > empire > vc > chaos

after the first playthrough:
wood elves > brets > empire > vc > orcs > chaos

>>170984075

Welves, Crooked Moon, Beastmen

>>170984024
P e a s a n t ' s C r u s a d e

>besiege Drakenhof
>end turn
>Manny sallies forth
>fight a phyrric victory
>templehofs turn
>straight up walks into Drakenhof and takes it before my eyes
>even tho I was besieging it
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME CA
EJATHR JGBVHJGBHUY JBHNK M

>>170984119

It's not a crusade without Knights, it's a riot. You can call it a Peasant's Uprising or Peasant's Rebellion but a crusade takes Knights.

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>>170984075
VLAD, SKARSNIK, Beastcock

>>170983280
nigger, 2 weak units will almost always beat 1 strong unit in tw games, and in your case there are more than 2 per one, its because of morale shocks due to being outnumbered, being tired, being flanked and being attacked in the rear, combine that with the fact that being attacked in the rear removes all melee defense from the equation and you can see why a full stack of gobbos can beat a significantly lower number of men at arms

>>170983945
its hopeless because you are a shitter that doesn't understand game mechanics, not because its not possible to fuck shit up with pure peasant armies

>>170984015

I swear to FUCK if chakax isn't one of the first lords, heads will roll.

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>>170984201
OUT
FUCKING
SKILLED

>>170984201
using any mods?

>>170984292
WHY THE FUCK DOES SALLYING FORTH BREAK THE SIEGE
THIS SORTA SHIT NEVER HAPPENED IN THE PREVIOUS GAMES

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>>170984229
>It's not a crusade without Knights

>>170984281

Chakax isn't even a Lord. I can guarantee you the three LL's will be

>Mazdamundi
>Kroq-Gar
>Tehenhauin

>>170984340
And it's still not happening in TWW

this >>170984337?

>>170984337
none

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>>170980712
>>170981332
>>170981883
GOBBOS RULE
SPIDERS IS BETTER THAN HORSES ANYWAY

>>170984229
Actually, it's not a Crusade without the Pope.

>>170984415
>And it's still not happening in TWW
pretty fucking sure its happening, as in happened fucking eight minutes ago

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>>170984424
>G O B B O S
>R
>E
>E
>N
>E
>S
>T

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IT'S NOT A CRUSADE WITHOUT KNIGHTS HE SAYS

I'LL SHOW YOU A CRUSADE WITHOUT KNIGHTS, ON LEGENDARY EVEN

>>170984075
Skarsnik is my absolute favorite.
Durthu is my second favorite.
Since I loved Vlad so much when he was part of the Vampire Counts, it is reasonable to say that Vlad would be my third favorite.

>>170983629
Yeah they ran by me and kept going north to get up in Skarsnik's grill

they all died

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>>170984502
G-GOBBOS?

>>170984413

I don't care, they havn't added a single hero unit that is from the table top (named) so why would they start?

>>170984543
DEUS VULT

>>170984543
Post what turn # you lose on

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>>170984413
>Kroq-Gar

Yes, it is very important that we get a Legendary Lord who rides a motherfucking T-Rex and shoots bolts of pure energy out of his hand.

Praise be to Sotek.

>>170983740
Thank you, but it's just not the same.

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>>170984543

I believe in you anon.

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>>170984543
RIP in peace disgusting peasants

>>170984543
blessing of the lady

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>>170984554
WE'Z SURROUNDED BOSS!
GOOD, NOW WE'Z CAN STAB EVERYWHERE

>>170984640
>shoots bolts of enery out of his hand
Kroq-Gar? More like Goq-Ku

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>>170984580

I would see them as wanting a Legendary Lord for each race of the Lizardmen, and Mazdamundi, Kroq-Gar and Tehenhauin are the best examples, have the best stories, ect.

Maybe, hopefully there will be Chakax in a later update but even then it's more likely Gor-Rok will be added before him.

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>>170984749
Gobbos truly are beautiful

>>170984791

But chakax is the coolest looking, reeeeeeeeeeee.

>>170984869
fink u mean Gorks will ya git

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>>170984791
Heck, Tetto-Eko probably has an even better chance of being added in than Chakax.

While Chakax is one of my favorite characters, he's a very obscure character in the Lizardman lore, barely saw any tabletop play due to his insane cost, and didn't even show up in End Times.

>>170984945
Mork > Gork

>>170983271
>that waist
>in power armour
terrible art

>>170984959
u'z ryte, da mouf jus means gork eaten mork

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STUPID
DUMB
MERCHANT
SCUM

>>170985063
Well that's a shameful display by Emil von Korden

>>170985063

Why would you not use Enchantress for your peasant uprising playthrough?

>>170985063
You autoresolved that right? No way that many pistoliers wouldn't fuck you.

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>>170985063

>>170985187
>That many pistoleers

Anon the only have so many bullets to shoot at FOUR THOUSAND peasants

>>170985228
>Implying he couldn't swap units between the stacks before taking the picture anyway

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>>170985308
But that would be unchivalrous

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>haven't broken through the enemy gate yet
>already won

>>170985228
You could just say I've shopped it

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>>170985063

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>>170985413
vargheists in sieges are unfair

>>170985567

Yeah, send em against the walls units and just watch them cut them to shit.

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>>170981290
kys

God, I despise Karak Hirn. Even when I try to do things that dorfs like they get invited into a war against me by Vampires or some shit.

>playing the last roman
>being a good loyalist, reclaiming europe for the empire
>everything is going great
>btfo moops/lombards when they try to fuck shit up
>all of the sudden plague out of fucking nowhere
>all my armies have it, can't replenish
>try to sit and wait it out
>no end in sight

trvly apocalyptic

>>170985763

Maybe you should be a good Roman and declare independence

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Jesus christ the way you burn through peasants, even recruiting 6 a turn isn't enough

FFFUUUCCCKIIING GREEENSKIIINN

I must admit the castle garrison is NOT peasants, but it can't be helped

Peasant update:

14 turns in and I've lost 60 units out of 76 recruited

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>>170985872

>those unit sizes>>170985651

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>>170985872
>FFFUUUCCCKIIING GREEENSKIIINN
YOO'Z A NUFFIN' BUT A 'UMIE GIT

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WHOSE STREETS?

OUR STREETS

WHOSE STREETS?

OUR STREETS

WHOSE STREETS?

OUR STREETS

>>170986652
>"Peasant crusade"
>Led by a Grail Knight
>Supported by The Green Knight
>Several other knights supporting

A true peasant crusade would be led by the prophetesses.

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>>170986652
EVEN GOBBOS ARE BETTA DAN YOO 'UMIES

>>170986691
He should have just started as Feet Enchantress, she gets big bonuses to peasant use.

>>170983271
>tfw you accidentally shoot your fingers off.

>>170981026

why didn't the elves just shoot at the orcs with their bows while the stout dwarves hold the line with their phalanx?

>>170987271

That wouldn't be cool, The hobit was all about the sick ass matrix action.

>>170983012
Never, hopefully.

Stirland should have a unique building in the Moot that gives big bonuses to troop regen, growth and public order.

>>170987376

I personally would be very satisfied if the entire battle was just 15 minutes of elves peppering the orcs while the dwarves held the line. Afterwards the side of good only takes 7% casualties (close victory going to TWW logic) and Kills the captives (another 15 minutes of brutal battlefield executions, half of that just Bilbo cutting shattered Orcs throats)

>>170987513
not epic, not for the win

film idea : denied

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>it's another episode on ChaosTV of 'Make A New Horde and Instantly Get Targeted for Extermination by Fucking Everybody(tm)'

How the fuck am I supposed to get an income of 10k/turn as the roman expedition?

>>170987716
>make a new horde
>enemy hero runs up to it and kills the hero on the same turn, thus dismantling the horde, population points you spent on it are now wasted
Sigvald must have had at least a dozen holes in his liver by the end of it.

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>>170987716
I WANT TO FUCK THAT DOMINATOR.

>>170987791
all those free hordes you got? when the free payment expired you should have disbanded all units except for the general and 1 more, placed them somewhere safe and built economic buildings

>>170987716
>needing more than 1 horde

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>>170984424
>>170984502
aaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAH

>"""goblins"""

>We’re back at EGX Rezzed this year! We’ll be a part of SEGA’s line-up, sharing an exciting and exclusive look at what’s next for the Total War: WARHAMMER series with a Creative Assembly hosted Dev session at 4pm on Friday 31st March. Any fans of TW: WARHAMMER shouldn’t be missing this

ALL ABOARD

Why are they called night goblins if you can only fight them during the day?

https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/841604948823535616

Hope you guys like waiting.

Alright lads, I've installed Attila, any suggestions for mods that make the game more enjoyable? I'm not overly keen to play vanilla but I will if there's no good mods.

>>170988354
none of the major mods are finished, so you can just look through minor stuff if you are interested, or just play vanilla

>>170988241
>>170988304
noice!

>>170988354
Radious.

There have been numerous undisputable masterpieces in total war modding, such as the strikingly realistic classic Europa Barbarorum or its medieval counterpart Stainless Steel. Radious mod will not join their ranks; its surface is too generic, its presentation too provocative and its messages too obscure. Its take on the abysmal is an illumination in one person’s despair, but a paroxysm of another’s perversion. It will remain underground – treasured by the most avant-garde among intellectuals for its edifying if horrifying insight into the fundaments of human morality. Philistines and self-proclaimed critics alike will shun Radious mod, but you can’t fault them for that. It takes wisdom to appreciate its subtleties, and courage to side with the unpopular opinion. Sed domi maneas paresque nobis novem continuas fututiones.

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Admit it, you would fuck it if nobody was looking...

>>170988354
>>170988432
Uninspired and repetitive as mods nowadays are, many a disillusioned fan don’t hesitate to call out the medium as fallen. Along comes Radious mod, the latest entry to modding self-critique and introspection.

On the surface Radious mod seems like your ordinary mod which is seemingly unremarkable but whose charm is so irresistible yet so subtle, that the people who've played it cannot but fall for it, much to the frustration of some self proclaimed "understanders of strategy" who cannot see any logic to these affections. Os et labra tibi lingit, Manneia, catellus: non miror, merdas si libet esse cani.

Unlike our hack-ridden mod industry, Radious Mod uses metaphors in an excruciatingly subtle way. Sharp-eyed spectators should be able to spot the humanistic properties Radious mod displays. Radious mod is a self-aware and self-referencing work. It points out the flaws and implausibilities which often plague its genre, yet offers no alternative. Though criticized for conforming to its genre without innovation, composing the rest of the mod with uninspiring features essential in achieving what Radious mod wishes to do. While it does highlight the unrealism which plagues the modding community, it also serves to illustrate the irrationality of passion and infatuation, which which is shown by the hatred often spewed at this masterpiece. Poor Radious is left with naught, but to hunger evermore.

The team is aware of the flaws and tropes in their work, but artistic integrity has to be weighed against the harsh market. Even so, no artist wishes to make hollow trash as much as “understanders of strategy” so often may think. Behind these stories are genuine emotions, far more so than half-assed criticisms by blind followers of objectivism.

I don’t think this mod justifies an arbitrary rating of stars; it’s much better than that. It deserves a place among the highest modern philosophical works of our world. "Nietzsche, thy name is Radious."

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for the love of god can somebody make a bootleg LOTR mod for TWW already??

>>170988354

A veritable work of its time, Radious mod is an author’s input on the contemporary attitude so critical of mods that they’re often not given a chance at all, a window through which we see the creator’s wish to move his audience, as well as frustrations at the vessels of these emotions being ignored or enjoyed as “low art”.

Attempts at analyzing Radious mod’s implications and unraveling its messages necessitate great concentration and effort, which is further exacerbated when so much of my blood flows elsewhere than my brain when enjoying this mod.

Radious mod is a journey, an embodiment of a search fundamental to our humanity yet abandoned by contemporary society; Radious Mod is the eternal quest for perfection. As philosophers and "understanders of strategy" alike vainly peruse the void of their hollow souls for an abstract ideal, they achieve naught save for casting the community into desecration. Delving further into the hypothetical and the metaphysical only reinforces the misbelief that true beauty lies within. “Homosexuality,” Plato wrote, “is regarded as shameful by barbarians and by those who live under despotic governments, Both of which apply to contemporary society.

"Quod culus tibi purior salillo est, nec toto decies cacas in anno; atque id durius est faba et lapillis. Quod tu si manibus teras fricesque, non umquam digitum inquinare posses.”

As tremors of mirth reverberate through my corpus; my finite faculties discharged; my soul emancipated. Such is the power of Radious Mod. Radious Mod is not everyone’s cup of tea. It is perhaps best treated as a lengthy parable. For the actively dismissive it will hardly make much of an impression other than being an ordinary mod with a cheap attempt at improving the game. For others with willing ears and eyes to match, it can be a novel take on the values and motivations surrounding the genre.

>>170988432
>>170988496
Okay sounds interesting, I'll look into it. I had just finished a stainless steel campaign and it improved M2TW so much that I don't know if I can play total wars without mods anymore lol.

>>170988597
no dont get it please i beg you

>>170988597

wait no

stop

i was memeing

its copy pasta

stay away

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>>170988597

>>170988803
>>170988807
Well I've found myself watching a youtube video of it and checking out the modpage. Thanks for nothing haha

>>170988807
anon it might be too late we lost him

>>170988568
Read the terms and conditions of the TWWH mod tools.

>>170989103

>bootleg

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>>170987257

>>170989351
I don't know what that means

Am I blind or is there no hotkeys for unit abilities like gyrocopter bomb and you have to do it all manually?

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who wins

>>170989703
Depends on wether Vlad has his sword+ring.

Ave!

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Daily reminder to spam pit of shades FOR THE GLORY OF KHOR- I mean for Sigmar

>>170984967
Girlyman is in super-hyper-magical dreadnought made by the BESTEST TECHPRIEST 4 EVAH

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>>170991427
>five reiksguard

>>170981291
roll

>>170991768
>chaos
haha, no.

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I love this mod, I have no idea how I'll win the errantry wars though, it unintentionally boosts offensive magic and artillery too, because orcs form giant blobs, its going to be real fun playing as the empire with this mod

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Hows ya champagne going?
Today's work as Wood Elves has been good
We caught Kholek snoozing

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>>170991687

THE GROUND QUAKES

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Morghur raised a Brayherd in the lands of Estalia, retreating to the outskirts of Bretonnian held Bilbali as Ara and her eflish sorts chased him. His herd wasn't particularly impressive, some Bestigors were the worst of it.

>>170992081
I never use Reiksguard, making Imperial Knights instead.
Reikslanders can suck my dick.

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birb

>>170991971
Which mod is it ?

>>170992146
In over 300+ hours of strictly Empire campaigning I don't think I've recruited regular knights more than a handful of times. Like I've probably only had 5 total units.

>>170991971
I literally cannot comprehend how are you dealing with all that shit on Legendary, but I'm glad that you are still crusadin'.

>>170991971

Is that fear the greentide?

Greenskins were 2 stronk for me in that when playing Brets

>>170992329
several actually:
da green threat which makes more orc factions respawn and gives them better units when they do

fear the green tide that increases the number of orcs per unit and boosts their LL's a lot

and orcs occupy everywhere which is self explanatory

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>>170992427
>how are you dealing with all that shit on Legendary,
there just aren't all that many orcs around brettonian area, I had to win a few really tough battles early on, but from that point onwards its been mostly norscans that I had to fight, beastmemes (whom I am also boosting with a mods) wiped out carcassone and welves settled the ruins, so before I am going to crusade against the gobshits and orcs I'll have to fight the elves back into their forest

my toughest battle was against 5 stacks of skaeligs, actually got beaten by them and lost most of my starting units and the entire stack of Loeun, managed to defeat them eventually and even got a peace treaty so now its all good

>>170992731

Why don't people just destroy this faction on turn three? Never had to deal with them in 3 campaigns as Bretonnia.

>>170980652
and so help me varg

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>>170993110
because with this mod they have a shitton of soldiers in that early stack, and if you attack them your bloodied army gets wiped by Marienburgers, I had to take the city first and then attack the orcs because of that

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>>170992292
...

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>>170993264

>>170993218

Which mod? I use the SFO which adds stronger garrisons as well.

>>170993654
>Empire

Is it possible to give glade Lords elk mounts?

Can a modbro try it?

Does anybody know what is going on with the advisor guy in the game intro when he's reading the book and then turns into this blue wizard guy

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>>170980561
Total War: Silmarillion when?

>>170993904
Play the chaos campaign and you will know.

>>170993130
See you tomorrow

>>170993680
see
>>170992569

>>170980561
I don't really want it myself, but I'm actually surprised they didn't do this instead of warhammer. I bet it would sell better.

>Durthu looks like a treemen version of Carrot Top.
Fuck, I can't play him anymore.

>>170981026
What's the name of this tactic?

>>170994798

the shish kebab

>>170994798
Superior dwarven craftmanship ruined by elven mary sue-ishness.

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>>170992395


they're handy for garrison armies needing some heavy cav


>>170993264


SCREEEE

>>170994798
one-up the manlets

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>>170981026

Why didn't Legolas solo the entire Orc population and fly upside down all the way to Mount Doom, chopping every orcs head off on the way to destroy the ring?

>>170995335
>legolas-gif
>its a webm
hwat

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>>170995403

Oops, wrong one :^)

>>170995502
>legolas-webm
>it's a gif
bamboozled

>>170995842
'TIS NIGHT

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best boyz band is here

>>170995842
BY SIGMAR!, NO!

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>CA could get LOTR license to make actually GOOD LOTR game
>Meanwhile WB making another retarded edgy garbage, that rape LOTR lore even more

Really make you think

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>>170995842
>being scared with the ridiculous garrison that Altdorf gets

git

g u d

>>170996325

The lotr movies raped the lore and tone and nobody cared because almost nobody read the books.

>>170996380
Taking liberties and utter corruption aren't the same thing

>>170996380
That game rape it much worse also
Movies was good, exept hobbit of course

>>170996380
>nobody read the book
>best selling non-religious book of all time

Ok

>>170996525
Isn't that Harry Potter? Why don't we have Total War: Harry Potter?

>>170996325
I think that lotrfags tears of impotent rage are the most tasty on the net

>>170996380
Having few changes it not rape

Making another fucking ring of power is a big deal tho

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>>170996561

>OUR WANDS LOVE BLOOD

>tfw can't decide if I want to go back to Attila or not

>>170996709
>OUR BROOMS LOVE BLOOD
ftfy

>>170996482
>>170996493
>>170996607

The movies were comedy/action. The books were a serious quest with great peril. The books had pathos, the movies had breakneck pacing and still cut most of the books out for the boring action scenes that don't matter. No Tom Bombadil, no Council of Ents, no barrow downs, No caves under Helm's Deep, Sam and Frodo are the first fucking things you see in the Two Towers movie, BILBO PUTS ON THE RING AT HIS PARTY AND GANDALF IS SHOCKED. NEITHER OF THEM ATTEMPT TO HIDE THE FACT THAT HE VANISHED.

They're just not good adaptations of the books. As Christopher Tolkien said: "They Butchered my father's work for a quick buck"

>>170996867
>"The enthusiasts who have read the novels over and over may notice every change but in doing so they will miss the point. Peter Jackson's movie does not challenge the novel's supremacy any more than the distinguished book illustrations by Howe, Lee et al were meant to replace Tolkien's descriptive words. Paintings, drawings, animations and at last the feature films all augment our appreciation of Lord of the Rings. Another point on this, the question that dominates my email: the adaptation of masterpieces from one medium to another is as old as literature. Most of Shakespeare's plays are re-workings of stories, poems or written history. When I moved Richard III from stage to screen, I was determined to make a good film in honour of a great play. Had I left every scene and line of the text intact in the movie, it would not have been a good one. Kurosawa's Throne of Blood, my favourite version of the Macbeth saga, distorts Shakespeare to spectacular effect. The play which inspired it remains intact." -- Ian McKellen, October 3, 2000

>>170996867
>As Christopher Tolkien said: "They Butchered my father's work for a quick buck"

It beats not doing anything while getting bucks anyway.

>>170997234

What a dumb faggot. Everyone imagines the story in the imagery and framing of the movies unless they are old enough to have read the books first.

Literally worthless opinion. The Lord of the Rings is the greatest literary achievement of the 20th century. The movies are little more than animated cliff notes and that so many people will never bother to read the books because the movies exist and are far more dumbed down is an absolute tragedy. It's like shooting some wonderful animal and taxidermying it. Sure more people will enjoy it, but all that made it special is gone.

>"The chasm between the beauty and seriousness of the work, and what it has become, has overwhelmed me. The commercialization has reduced the aesthetic and philosophical impact of the creation to nothing. There is only one solution for me: to turn my head away."

>"They eviscerated the book by making it an action movie for young people aged 15 to 25," Christopher Tolkien says regretfully.

>>170997493

The work was completed. It could only be marred by less skilled hands from that point on.

>>170995335
PULLORIEL, A SINGLE FORMATION!

SHIELDS ON ME!

>>170997730
You are aware that the existence of an adaptation in no way alters the original? Anyway, there are probably millions more people who read the Lord of the Rings purely because they saw the films first. A work that is no longer being adapted is culturally dead.

>link a post
>some other random post butts in

>>170997924
meant for
>>170994798

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I condone this action.
Fkn 32 year old cunt giving me -3 happiness everywhere

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>>170997963
>You are aware that the existence of an adaptation in no way alters the original?

It does if that's the only version most people are familiar with. It would have been better if they forever remained books. Then at least people would benefit from the stories. As movies, they're worthless trash.

>Anyway, there are probably millions more people who read the Lord of the Rings purely because they saw the films first.

With their imaginations replaced with the pale shadows of creativity that is the movie's art direction and casting. Would they even notice how clever the Two Towers was, structurally?

>A work that is no longer being adapted is culturally dead.

>Gotta set Of Mice and Men in a software studio or it's not a good story anymore!

Thanks for the constant updates.

Here, Have some "culturally adapted" books.

>>170998523
You are aware that the existence of the original in no way alters the original? For you, that is.

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so, where do they get all the horses

>>170998687
I'm not selfish like that. It cheapens the world to have lotr reduced to those flicks.

>>170998523
If a work is no longer being adapted it means it is culturally dead. Which means then definitely NOBODY will read it because it means it is no longer important. I'd rather have lots of 'impure normies' reading a book with the WRONG IMAGES in their head (as if this even made sense) than it becomes completely irrelevant and forgotten. You'd clearly have everyone forget about the books just so they could remain untouched (and unread) rather than suffer the indignity of an adaptation.

Culture is a shared, living experience. It doesn't belong in a museum.

>>170980561
Why Hobbit Total War and not Lord of the rings: Total War?

The battle for middle earth games were mediocre as fuck. They could easily make a radical Lord of the Rings game.

>>170996867
>As Christopher Tolkien said: "They Butchered my father's work for a quick buck"


Mmh yeah no.

>>170998874
You do realize it is selfish to devalue/diminish other people's joy in a particular thing? Like by shaming them for it.
8 hours ago I could haved worded this better..

>>170999084
>The battle for middle earth games were mediocre as fuck
BLASPHEMY
SACRILEGE
HEATHEN

>>170998742
They're actually just Norscans in horse suits

Should I buy the beastmen?

I enjoy raping and pillaging

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>Be playing as Vlad
>Get a NAP with Mannfred
>I hit level 8, and it tells me I have to own some territory for the 'Blood Drinker' quest line
>Mannfred already owns it
>I shrug and decide I'll do the quest a bit later when I finish building up my army and can attack Mannfred
>I pass the turn
>It gets rid of the quest out of my list
>Much later end up capturing the territory, quest is still gone

So I'm just not gonna get blood drinker this playthrough? It's far too late to stop now, Vlad is level 20 and I beat chaos.

>>170999084
Game settings and mechanics are fundamentally materialist (in the philosophical sense, not the derogatory one) in their disposition. The magic of the LoTR universe cannot translate to game mechanics, hell it barely translated to movie adaptations.

>>170999508
Play Attila.

>>170999331
they were pretty mediocre senpai. I mean I had a good time with them too but they were mediocre. it's time to live in reality.

the trilogy was inevitable and not the worst thing in the world, the hobbit movies were commercialization and absolute shit.

this is the consensus.

>>170998997
You're a retard if you think the great literary works aren't read millions of times per year without any dumbing down for spoiled children.

>>170999331
>You do realize it is selfish to devalue/diminish other people's joy in a particular thing? Like by shaming them for it.
8 hours ago I could haved worded this better..

Nope. Shame is healthy for a society. When we lose it we have to deal with pedophiles dressed as women in women's bathrooms.

>>170999294
It's called paraphrasing.

>>170999564
I don't have attila because my computer is mediocre and I heard it's optimised like shit

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>>170999512

at least you didn't violate the NAP

>>170999598
>It's called paraphrasing.


It's called wrong.

>>170999562
I entirely disagree.

They've already created the ground work for a LotR game. They have legendary lords, heroes, quests, artifacts, and magical spells. I agree that they'd have to change up the lore a bit and throw in some units, but it would be a fantastic universe to have a true Total War game in.

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>>170999579

Even the Ralph Bakshi movies are better. At least they don't portray the hobbits as 50 year old young boys for no reason.

>>170980684
Underrated post

>>170999767
>At least they don't portray the hobbits as 50 year old young boys for no reason.

There's a very good reason and you know it. Stop pretending to be retarded to be contrarian.

>Hobbit is literally a children's book
>Lord of the Rings is a language experiment that is in MIDDLE SCHOOL LIBRARIES
>Some autist is actually autistically screeching about it being turned into a movie

You realize how retarded you sound, right? You're crying over a fantasy novel that 14 year olds read. Congratulations.

>>170999738
>The commercialization has reduced the aesthetic and philosophical impact of the creation to nothing.

Direct quote.

>>170999870
And he's still wrong.

>>170999767
>Even the Ralph Bakshi movies are better

Spotted the retard.

>>170999870
>Philosophical impact
>"ORCS AND ELVES AND MAGIC RINGS XDDDD"

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>>170999598
Shame and shaming isn't the same thing.
It says so in muh bible.

>>170999579
BFME games are the definition of less is more.
But what made them great was the online stuff, the custom stuff.
Custom maps, custom hero.
"Custom hero only" maps with you 7 powered glitched hero.
Running through Moria against hordes of orcs and balrogs giants demons dragons...
Felt like playing Diablo on steriods and with friends.

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MEMES

>>170997730
>ian mckellen is a dumb faggot

Next you'll say lee was too.

I wonder what you'd have said at the time the animation was out.

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>>170999832
>There's a very good reason and you know it. Stop pretending to be retarded to be contrarian.

No, there isn't. Hobbits are a sub-race of Men and look like little fat people. Hobbits reach adulthood at age 33, but frodo didn't leave the Shire until he was 50 and he would have looked far older than 18 year old elijah wood.

>The only real description of Frodo's appearance is given only once by Gandalf in his letter to Barliman Butterbur, in which he is declared a "stout fellow with red cheeks, taller than some (hobbits), and fairer than most", with a cleft chin, a bright eye, and a perky personality.

Stout. As in big and Fat.

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NEXT WARHAMMER UNVEILED ON MARCH 31ST.

Is this anon right? He's half right now with the "in a few weeks" claim.

>>171000820
>>171000929
We have a consensus already. Why would you bring this back up?

>>171001001
I like trolling lotrfags since they're worse than sub humans

>>171000947
31st is a Friday, nincompoop.
Announcements on Tuesdays

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WE'RE GOING FOR WORLD DOMINATION
>king refuse to die

>>171000947
No, it's made up bullshit which you were desperate enough to snap up, just like any other speculation that goes on in these threads.

This is the post you should screencap.

>>170999969
>A collage of all the most important themes and myths rolled into one story

You've no idea what you're talking about. You think it's rated so highly because of those window dressings that the many imposters that followed LOTR focused on? Orcs and Elves are aspects of our humanity, and the rings are things we want but must abstain from.

Dwarves are just fat loud drunkards too, aren't they? They've nothing to do with creation being limited to certain beings?

>>171000947
Brexit triggering with Article 50 and warhammer expansion announcement in the same week?

Holy shit. I'm going to be happy.

>>171000947
Sorry I called you a nincompoop

Is call of warhammer any good?
I kinda wanna play it but the 1.5 hour dl is...

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>>171001070
>>171001102
He's right. CA confirmed it.
https://twitter.com/totalwar/status/841604948823535616

Hype train has officially left the station once again.

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Summon the elector counts!

>>171001317

Did you really have to say the same thing on twitter and here? How autistic are you?

Feeling Grim?

>>171001156
>crashing this kingdom

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>>171001168
It's okay anon. I pardon you.

Pic related is me right now doing exactly that.

>>171001406
That's not me. I don't use social media. I just read the comment. Seems we are of likemind.

>>171001574
You know what they say... like minds... great alike...

>>171001457
I still say you're wrong and that it's probably going to be a big cocktease of no substance at all

>>170981291
roll

In TWWH does building a second of the same building give the same bonuses? I see it says "May not" but it isn't clear if it does.

I'm on about having a farm in the capital and in the other cities for Bretonnia. I just confederated a region with two farms, so I aint sure.

Anyone know how to recruit hero unit in Shogun 2 ?

>>170981026
I remember seeing this in the theaters and having an anuerism especially after no lifing phalanx on Rome 2. Fucking elves

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>>171001317
>>171000947
Ahhhhhh.

I can't breathe is this real? If it is the expansion then that means release is sooner than thought. We expected announcement in June/July with release between November 2017-Feb 2018.

Announcement the very end of March with release before end of September?

>>171001795
If you check building browser it tells you with a red exclamation mark.

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>>171001317
>>171000947

>people thought the next expansion was going to be 2 years from now or some insane bullshit

>>171001945
My mum works at SEGA
SEGA want a summer release

>>171001317
>the warhammer map is literally just a slight re-arrangement of Beleriand, with a replacement Valinor that is also the home of the High Elves in both properties.
>the dark elves came from the ice, just as the Noldor who were also called Dark Elves, but for an actually decent reason.
>the kingdoms of men lie mostly to the east with some settlements on the western shores.
>the dwarves kingdom in warhammer lies almost exactly where the blue mountains were.
>geography even matches up for Melkor's fortresses and the Chaos Wastes.

Funny that.

>>171001945
>Expansion release in 3-6 months
THAT'S WILD SPECULATION

>>170988354

634 A.D War of three faiths.

>>171001317
>>171000947
>Hyping for another minimum effort overpriced with reuse assets DLC

Wooooow so this is the power Fantasydrones

>>171001945

Will it cost another 60 dollars?

I'm assuming that if it has more than one new race the answer is a big fat yes.

Somebody give me the Grace PM Antiochus image please.

>>171002375
But of course :)
By the time the Trilogy is complete, you will have spent approximately 360 dollars on the game

>>171002375
Yeah, it's a separate game. Idea is that it is equal to TWWH1 on launch, so 4 playable races off the bat, 1 pre-order DLC race/faction and room for expansion with a DLC policy.

Only that if you own both TWWH1 and 2, they can slot together into one mega-game.

>>171002120
No they didn't.

The only thoughts that came close were the one or two people unfamiliar with CA who read too deeply into CA calling the next expansion a standalone 'game' for the $60 pricetag.

>>171002375
It's a "new game" so yes

>>171002208
both maps are not-earths, so its really no coincidence at all that they're similar.

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GUYS GUYS, Does anyone have a Ryzen CPU? How does it play in total war games, not in benchmark. I hear people using i7 7700k playing 22,000 large battle on DEI and other mods with no stuttering animations. Does the the new ryzen cpus do that?

Is scripting possible in Warhammer? Like for example would it be possible to script a random chance for a grudge while doing diplomacy? Is it even possible to add things like new grudges?

>>171002846
there's lua scripts in the db
iirc it's in data.pack under scripts/campaign/wh_main_warhammer/

>>171001851
in provinces that are able to recruit heroes, they show at the far right end of the selection bar for recruiting units, as a face that you click

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>>171002292
They've been working on the expansion since pre February 2016. Plans have expanded as had the team thanks to Warhammer's unexpected success. Lead designer in November at a small game festival near CA's HQ confirmed 4 base factions and a map the size of the base game in the expansion originally it was 3 base factions and half the map size.

Crumpets confirmed for first expansion. It's been on the Steamdb since Feb 2016 and updated twice a day since sometimes 3 times a day.


Bamboo and Bagels were added at the same time as Bretonnia's announcement in November and the Promo's are no longer encrypted. I suspect those are the final minor DLC packs paid and unpaid for the base game. pic related

The Old World patch which released Bretonnia changed the names and layouts for main and story campaigns. "Warhammer campaign" under the grand campaign tab is now "Old World" campaign in the ingame select menu. No dioubt a "New World" campaign will also appear below it. Story campaigns are now seperated to its own ingame tab aswell currently Eye for an Eye and Season of Revelation.
So seperated games via how many you own is the plan for the expansions along with a "Whole world" campaign most likely for the games and DLC's you own from the previous parts of the trilogy.

>>171002839
They will be a bit worse than i7's for games, since they have lower clockspeeds and marginally lower IPC, unless total war has started using more than 4 CPU cores, but I doubt that's the case. You probably shouldn't be buying 8 core 16 thread processors for gaming anyway.

>>171002375
4 new races(albeit 2 will be using elf models which should speed up development significantly), new continent, new assets, new animations, new voices, new mechanics, new models

So yes it will cost money.
>>171002531
And? That's a drop in the ocean over multiple years.

Is Erengrad supposed to be St. Petersburg (aka Leningrad) pun?

>>171001317
holy shit, I thought we were only getting the left side + south

so this means ogres, tomb keks and kek dorfs will be dlc

why you had to get me hyped this soon anon, fuck

Also

>"Fans of Total War: WARHAMMER will not want to miss Creative Assembly's developer session at 4pm on Friday"

>>171003418
Well, it's located at the eastern edge of not-baltic-sea, and borders a not-eastern-europe-poland-russia mashup faction, so it pretty obviously is exactly that

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Why do I like the Druchii so much?
Well let me tell you why...

>Elves who AREN'T a 'noble but dying race'/isolationist tree-huggers
>Repeater crossbows
>Repeater ballista
>Ride dinosaurs
>Everyone's a pirate
>Everyone's a slut
>All cities are a wretched hive of scum and villainy
>Best ships and seamen
>Worship a god of Murder and Vengeance just to fuck with their cousins
>Their nuns are all powerful sorceresses
>Their vestal virgins are all psychotic berserkers
>Give Jared Diamond the finger by taming shit like Manticores, Hydra and sea monsters
>Focus on the important things in life, like murder, torture, piracy, acquiring qt slave girls and murder

>>171003418
Maybe, probably.

>>171003454
That is an interpretation only you clown.

>>171003563
It is already confirmed by the dev that it will be the same size as the grand campaign, so it is pretty much that you fucking retard.

>>171003454
That leaked map is now outdated. Expansions have expanded due to Warhammers massively unexpected success for CA. Even more of the new world, land of the dead and darklands/MoM is planned.

>>171003550
>repeater
High elves have the ballista and the crossbows are inferior to helf meme shit
>everybody is a pirate
except for those that aren't
>Worship a god of Murder and Vengeance
so do High and Wood Elves, Dark Elves just murder defenseless people more willingly(than the high elves, Wood elves are on par with them on the murder front)

>>171003563
The south and east layout isn't an interpretation. Its ingame right now locked behind fog but some of it can be seen already including Crookback Mountain. The ingame map has had the outdated world map on display since launch.

>>171003681
Nice.

Is Steel Faith Overhaul good?

Did they tie Darren in a basement somewhere? Where are my leaks?

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>>171003661
Or maybe they'll have the new world in proper scale, which still meets the 'size' requirement of the promise.

>>171003789
I'm so very sick of this meme.
Of course they're an interpretation.
The shit there is entirely a placeholder so the map just doesn't cut off for no reason.
It would've taken some intern five minutes to add those parts rather than a perfect cut in the mesh to a black void.

>>171002839
the detail on the armor is pretty nice

>>171003681
I wonder what they're actually going to put in the darklands since it's mostly just a shithole with random greenskins, one major skaven settlement , chorfs and ogres hanging around the place

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>>171001317
>mfw I realise CA will be allowed to do what they want including making their own territories with the undeveloped parts of the new world because there isn't as much lore as the old world thereby less GW enforced rules.

>>171003550
sound like a group of incestious cucks

>>170997730
Chris is aware that the books were intended for children, yes?

>>170999767
Now this is shitposting

>>171004038
Not much different to the Badlands really.

>>171004081
There is very clearly enough already.
The only parts approaching being undeveloped are absolutely obsolete now anyway.

>>171004187
He is a child himself so it is doubtful.