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Kensei Edition

>NEW: First balance patch is now LIVE! Patch notes here:
http://pastebin.com/sxwT5yhn

>Leaked Centurion / Ninja Image
http://imgur.com/a/r8jXO

>New players:
http://pastebin.com/55KZTiUK

>Multiple hero video guides
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLkiUfT_3_4AnTBKwzZQO7-fDgKDzwPRPr

>Wikis:
http://forhonor.wikia.com
http://forhonor.gamepedia.com/For_Honor_Wiki

>Character damage values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wwr17AtTDFU3BZY_81axLVMKdHdNZuV0wGOb589VKgc/edit#gid=0

>Gear modifier values
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mPLuxn-bPMwxOotsIL8lM-x0jP101dIbUnMD1ten7ik/edit#gid=154396609

>Friends list sign up Doc:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe46v1-5y3m5IbPVaP1NRaEjU7tO3YWE_fZkR4dQ5C8nBwI5Q/viewform?c=0&w=1

>For those that have signed up:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b8fuKwrDWqaprZE9mRhDtgDRqkZHIabBfum-jHumLKw/edit#gid=943442915

>War of Factions:
https://forhonor.ubisoft.com/game/en-us/war-of-factions/

>PVP Stat Tracker:
https://fhtracker.com/

>Story mode collectibles:
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93082/article/for-honor-all-knights-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93191/article/for-honor-all-vikings-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/
http://gameranx.com/features/id/93397/article/for-honor-all-samurai-campaign-collectibles-breakables-observables/

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third for dead game hahahahaha
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>>170923341

MORTEM
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Peacekeeper is best girl.
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>Rah!
>Rah!
>Rah!
>Rah!
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>>170923429
INIMICUS
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>>170896681
Here you go, anon.
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First for LB WebM.

>>170923429
INIMICUS
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>>170923431
>pk best girl
>nobushi and femraider exist
What world do you live in?
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Post webms
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>>170923260
FEMSEI MUH LOVE
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>>170923341
MORTEM
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what happens when law bringer gets buffed to much and becomes hero for the month

what happens?
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>>170923790
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>>170923863

He won't be. He'll be buffed enough to be balanced and those skilled with him will seem like gods because he's no longer shit.
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>>170924017
>tfw 75% winrate with law

I CANNOT CONTAIN MY SUPERSTES
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Who should I play next? 7 decides.
I feel like everyone except conq can't attack at all.
Pls no bully
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>fighting a conq
>I main conq, none of his bullshit is real
>beat him in round one
>winning round 2
>he chucks me off (doesn't bother me)
>he spams sorry for the next two rounds while still trying to throw me off
>throw him off in round 3
>beat him clean in round 4
for what purpose
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>>170924145
Warlord can attack a bit better than even Conq.
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>>170924145
A better game
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>>170923863
All of the people complaining about the law being so shit will then be so happy and claim something along the lines of
"We deserve him to be op, we had to deal with all his shit before, so fuck you!!!!!!!!!!!!"

And this is coming from a law main.
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>>170924145
LEGENDARY RAIDER
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>>170924232
Honestly if you arent retarded you can do pretty good with Law, he just needs more ways to engage and follow ups on his parries
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>>170924225
Hes broken, I'm not playing warlord or pk untill they fix them.
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>>170924145
you can level characters even if you don't buy them? Since you don't really get purple drops til prestige 4 it might not be that bad buying DLC chars because its going to take you like 48hours of gameplay to even get that high.
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>>170924232

Law main here. I love him.

He's just so hopeless against an assassin with a brain though.
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>>170924145
Warlord
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>>170924405
If you play conq you might as well go Warlord. The difference isn't that huge really.
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Threadly reminder to report all PKs and roaches for griefing at the end of your games.
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>>170924386
I just wish that a light riposte did a bit more damage than it currently does.

If there's some retard nobushi that never uses light attacks so I can't ad mortem her, I don't wanna be fucking whittling down her health for half an hour straight.
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>have to postpone the war vs samurai because the KANGZ will cut us off

what are the northen legions doing?
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Assuming it doesn't phase through my guard, what's the counter to a blocked Storm Rush?
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>>170924145
Obviously Warden
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>>170924585
Light Riposte.
Shove into Unlock Light for that 7 damage that finishes them off. Totally LegitBro. EzPz win.
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>>170924581
>roaches
>griefing
>not warlord

Ok
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>>170924438
48hours of play is roughly 9k steel assuming no disconnects. DLC chars probably going to be 20k each.
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>>170924638
>blocking storm rush
>not parrying

For what reason
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>>170924225
>>170924509
>>170924705
yall fuckers trying to sabotage
>>170924313
youre cool tho
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>literally holding up as a lawbringer
>orochi top light goes through my block and hits me
ok
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>>170924145
le 4chan approved classes lol
Go raider to continue your meme.
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>>170924852
I used to parry it but the timing is all fucking weird for some reason and it will literally hit me even if I block it if I haven't been in the block stance for like 1-2 seconds prior to the guy even storm rushing at me.
Is there no punish/course of action after blocking it?
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>>170924478
Luckily, most assassins don't have brains.

>feint
>they side dash attack
>parry
>AD MORTEM or if peaceshitter, just GB then side heavy

Works more than it should
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>>170924585
Forgot to mention it but more stamina would be a huge buff for him.
Hes meant to be a stamina bully but in doing so he drains his own almost as fast as the opponent's, one of my go-to strats against turtles is to spam the shove until they try to dodge it, then buffer the shove after the dodge so i GB instead and get an untechable GB and a free side heavy (overhead if near a wall)

the LAW is nit as shit as people make him out to be, he just needs a ton of mindgames to be viable.
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Warlord buff when?
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>>170924858
Honestly it seems you've already played all the classes that's left to play except the classes with few superior cheese starts.

So yeah, just play Raider. Throw people off cliffs, Cancel Heavy into Stuns. Throw no stamina people onto ground for Heavy, Unblockable for 75 Damage. Play Raider.

>>170924985
I really also hate how some people can run few steps and still manage to cancel their storm rush. It fucks up my parry in close range.
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>>170924716
>warlord
>not roaches
Found one.
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Any Xboners here?

What program/technique do you use to convert captures to webms? I want to share my salt harvest.
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>playing duel
>other guy wins the first game 3-0
>always says "Good Fight!"
>I respond with "Good Fight!"
>next game I win 3-0
>he doesn't say anything after dying or after I say "Good Fight"
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>>170924858
>Warden
>Sabotage
>When he's already gotten the far more broken Conq to Rep 1

Also, Warden and PK are the only characters he barely touched. Pick the lesser.
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>duel a bunch of peacekeepers in a row
>queue for another duel
>probably another fucking peacekeeper
>pick lawbringer
>other guy is also lawbringer
>ohfuck
>he does the "My Liege" combat taunt before every battle so i start doing it too
>we throw out lights and riposte eachother back and forth
>chat with the guy for a minute after the duel's over, really cool dude

Genuinely the most fucking fun I've ever had in a duel. Made facing roaches and peacekeepers all day worth it.
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>>170924985
Not too sure on that. It's been a long time since I've blocked it. I either parry it, or I somehow fuck up the timing and get hit (starting to happen a lot recently, so you're not alone in that).

>>170925006
>retard opponent
>just do GB > side heavy > shove > repeat
>do it three times, out of stamina
>they're almost dead, and they run away to get buffs or to gank someone else
>can't do anything about it because stamina

REEEEEEEEEE
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>>170925250
>conq
>better than warden
delusional
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>>170925263

Finding a good opponent to engage in jolly combat with is difficult, but always enjoyable.
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>>170925214
I play this game on PSquad, but I use my Xbone for Titanfall. Record your shit, go the the xboxdvr website and download the MP4, and use Webm for Bakas to convert it. Finagle the bitrate and the resolution to get it as close to 3MB as possible.

Higher bitrate is better, probably start around 1500 - 2000 for a 15 second clip.

You could also google this shit cunt and figure it out yourself, cunt.
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>>170925263
The less broken/cancerous the character the better the person playing it is personality-wise, usually.
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>>170925086
>roaches
>not warlord
Found one.
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>>170925032
Also even if I dodge to avoid the first one and lose 50% of my stamina. The Warden will surely rush in and do that again. Say I got hit by another light/shoulder charge. Now I've to choose whether to get 50/50'd or Dodge and lose all my stamina. Also If you don't realize it yet, but shoulder bash decreases more of my stamina if it connects as well. It's really hard to fight against good offensive wardens since It'll be a fight to not only counter their vortexes but fight my stamina too.

>>170925243
I hate people like this. They rekt you and say good fight. How much of ego do they have. Hell I don't care if I lose if It was a good find I'll commend you for it. Even if it was really one sided because I made too many mistakes.
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>1v1
>spawn on narrow map
>facing some pushlord class
>they come at me with the intent to ring out
>counter and knock them off
>"wow fuck u no honor fagit"
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>>170925407
t. Baddie

Conq even nearly hard counters Warden. How can you call him better if he can't even fucking beat Conq if the Conq isn't shit?
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I hate how easy it is to be defensive. As a naturally defensive player in fighting games and Dark Souls, I get fucked up when I fight somebody else playing defensively as I always feel like they can out-bitch me.
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Did they remove High Tower or whatever that map was called?

I don't think I've seen it since the patch.
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>>170925668
They axed both the viking maps because of optimization issues tanking the framerate into near unplayable amounts.
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>>170925668
There are one or two maps that made people crash or something that I recall them taking out of the rotation.

I have no idea if they've put them back in yet.
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>>170925631

not him but you're going to need to provide a better argument than
>wow of course he's better ur just bad if you don't knoe
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>>170925631
cause all that conq can really do is bash (that can be dodged) into a light
warden can top light or kara the zone, and bait fullblock stamina with bash cancel
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>>170925469

Cheers. I did google it, and all I get is .gif nigger bullshit. Cunt.
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>>170924145
Centurion
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>>170924478
I struggle the most against Valks right now, I know the sweep is coming but I can never react to it fast enough
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Balance patch when? Game is literally going to be dead in 1 fucking week.
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>>170925049
(You)
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What the fuck is going in vs AI Dominion ? I came in to get some warm up matches before doing the daily challenges and every room I join the people are AFK and just letting the bots win without leaving the spawn.
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>>170925638
I swear the defensive game is something frenchy types lean toward

see soul calibur french players
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>>170925985
b-but Ubisoft is banning them
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>>170925214
double tap home, press X to record, download video from XBox dvr site, then use webms for retards
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>>170925767
vikings confirmed for too savage for optimization
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>>170924775
>assuming no disconnects.
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>>170926124
>falling blue guy on the PK in the end

pft
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>>170925806
>>170925874
Conq has an unpunishable opener in the form of shieldbash, which is also arguably a 50/50 as he can GB out of a dodge instead of bashing.

Conq has full stance which he can use to cancel most stuns, completely negating Warden's shoulder bash, as he can just eat it and full stance the damage.

Conq has the single most broken indicator glitch in the game, as he can constantly throw out false indicators while spinning his heavy. Pair that with how fast his wound heavy is, and it's a fucking nightmare.

Conq has solid damage for the relatively low effort he requires.

If he goes bellow one bar of health, he can full stance to stall out until he heals up. Characters without bashes can do nothing against this at all. Characters with bashes need to hope that the Conq isn't smart enough to drop it and dodge, or to Full Stance cancel the damage after the bash.

If you run out of stamina against a conqueror, they can 50/50 you with the running bash for a heavy, or with a GB for a heavy. Getting hit by the running bash drops your stamina and makes you have to spend longer exhausted, giving him time to do it again.
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Would you guys rather fight against a laggy Valk or a laggy PK.
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>>170925790
>>170925767
Seriously? I get map-related crashes on pretty much all the maps on console, like 50% of my crashes are when one of those cannonball effects appears next to me (the map built-in ones, not the feat).
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>>170924145
Ninja
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>Beat Lawbringer as PK, he whines
>Next duel it's the same guy because this game is fucking dead
>Pick my almost-rep3 Lawbringer against his Lawbringer this time
>Win again
>He silently quits
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>>170926404
I'd rather disconnect
but not before flaming at their shitty connection
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>>170926404
Laggy PK, because you at least know what she's going for at a given time.
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Test weebm. Pls no bully.

Also I chased this shitter around for 2 minutes.
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>>170926415
Nah, this is different. The Viking maps were consistently poor performers in Dominion, so until the maps get optimized, they were yanked from all matchmaking queues. You can still access them in custom matches, but otherwise, the maps are gone until Ubisoft makes them workable.
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>>170926404
Depends on the character I'm playing as. I feel like even if I see the sweep coming I can't dodge it consistently on some characters even without lag. As lawbringer, problably PK just because her health is low enough that I might get lucky.
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>>170926587
What do you think they're going for Anon?

>>170926651
*bullies*
I'd've liked if you finished him off with a heavy.
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any valk mains here? dodge counter into shoulder pin or parry into guard break and over head heavy?
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>>170926786
PEACEKEEPERS WILL DEFEND THIS
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>>170926651
ZOOM PUUUUNCH
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>>170926786

>I'd've liked if you finished him off with a heavy.

Idk I love bonking people. I feel like it's one of the easiest ways to get people salty other than long arming them.
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>>170926403
>unpunishable
nice meme

>bash
read my post again

tell me more about the glitch, cause no one ever uses wound up heavy cause its slow as shit

>solid damage
except when you need to execute someone

>getting caught by running bash
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>>170926651
Am I the only one that just gets mad at the Peacekeeper running animation?

Like, maybe it's just because it's a peaceshitter, but it just pisses me off.

Am I autistic?
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>>170926517
you fucker
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>>170926909
As a fellow LB, I can appreciate people who like to give a solid concussion to others, but I appreciate the backbreaker execution most.
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>>170927002

>mfw a peaceshitter runs near me

No. It isn't just you.

I also hate Roach's running animation.
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>>170925940
you could be reacting in time

from my experience, i need to dodge to my right. that works every time. the same timing for dodging in other directions didn't work.
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In 4v4, if I'm a class like Lawbringer or Shugoki and my movespeed isn't great am I being a burden to the team by just sitting on B and killing creeps?
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>>170927106
It's like he was holding piss for hours.
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What sort of light attacks can i look for to parry?

I play a ton of Law but I still don't like risking a light parry.
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>>170925943
i actually just chuckled out loud when i realized the faction war stuff ends in like three months or something
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Is it possible to tie a Dominion match?
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>>170927201
Not at all. Though from time to time, move a little bit forward and kill creeps, but run back to B if someone other hero comes. Killing soldiers gives points for your team and you.
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>>170927406
Is there any better tattoo than the runes?
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>>170927406
Outside of this gaggle of retards I've never seen a black viking in 185 hours steam tells me. The only niglords I ever see are tons of shugoki and sometimes conq if they have the arm exposed.
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>>170927438
pre-order tattoo is really cool
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This game is a copy and paste of the lifespan of Evolve Stage 2

It'll be dead in two months and there is no repairing the damage that's already been done. They'll release a patch and the player numbers will rise and you'll think it's all okay, but then you'll see it still keep tapering off and every patch bringing back less and less people.

And it's all in fast forward because the game is so much of a fuckup.
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>>170927668
That's one brave conq.

I would've left the game.
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Does any Shugoki main here have the full Isogo Weapon set?
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>>170927668
All of you literally kys
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Another weebm of me being a shitter. I was just learning but this is the only time I've ever done this in a duel.
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>>170927406
Hey look, its what's ruining For Honor.
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>>170927801
my favorite part about this webm all the small realizations made by the conq and i
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>>170927406
Nerfs when?
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>>170927942
I can't wait to hear what your dumb memery shit is gonna be this time.
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I just couldn't carry 2 bots and a Rep 0 :(
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>>170927348
I guess no one gets that ebin emblem.
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>>170927362
if both teams are in breaking and the last heroes on each team kill each other at the same time, possibly
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>>170927759
Why are so many games in the last year dying so quickly?
Is this the new meta?
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>>170926928
>he thinks that you can punish shield bash
dropped

To help you learn a little about the game, though, I'll reply to the rest of your points.

Bash can be dodged, but you don't get anything out of dodging it. It also puts you at risk, because if you dodge when no bash is coming you get GB. There is nothing you can do to take advantage of a Conq trying to bash you: all you can do is try to get out without eating the hit.

Here's an example of the glitch from a tourney where there were no exploit bans. Both perspectives, too. The Conq in these videos rode this shit and Full Stance to third place overall.
https://clips.twitch tv/SpotlessCaringStapleFloof
https://clips.twitch tv/CleanTenuousMomCoolCat

You don't need to execute anyone, you just need to kill them. Also, with aforementioned 50/50s, you can get a GB for a heavy which, guess what, executes people. Isn't it cool how mechanics work?

Running Bash is a guessing game on if he's actually throwing it out or if he's going to just run up and GB. If someone is JUST throwing out bashes, yeah it's easy as fuck to dodge. That becomes harder when they're actually not a brain dead retard and realize what you're going to do.

Thanks for not even acknowledging Full Stance. Saves me from having to explain why it's good like you're a certified retard.
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>>170927759
You're retarded beyond belief if you even imply this is anything similar. Evolve Stage 2 was actually doing pretty good for a while there, the game was halfway fun again, then all of a sudden they made a bunch of bafflingly bad decisions and then immediately after, they announced development was being stopped, which leads to believe that some kind of message from on high in 2K told them to just fuck it's shit up so they could dump it.
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>>170928410
this, holy shit

a conq that does nothing but shield bash or wait for you to attack is really cancer

some moves are unsafe vs conq block as well
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Huh
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>>170927406
that is disgusting
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>>170928334
Because they're not really and it's just a bunch of autismos doomsaying games that are still just puttering along okay with more medium-small playerbases because they never got over their permashitposting ways from MUH TORTANIC DAYS and similar.
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>>170928649
>raiders
Go fuck yourselves
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How do I deal with phantom mouse movement? It fucks me up so much...
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>>170928270
Level1 Bots were a mistake. Also is this some kind of new record?
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>warden overhead heavy
>lose 50% of my hp
>law overhead unblockable heavy
>1/2 bar of damage
tell me again why im stacking attack stat?
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All the snoozebringer retards who queue duels should kill themselves.
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@170928794
You can stop trying to force this meme any time.
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>>170926403
>unpunishable

This meme needs to fucking STOP, go actually fucking play Conq if you think it's unpunishable and watch your self get executed 5 seconds into your attempted shieldbash spam.

As for some of your other points, his heavy is retardedly easy to parry because of how slow it is, getting that parried will take at least a 3rd of your stamina, not counting how much of it you spent while winding it up. Orochi's indicator is infinitely worse, especially because he's so much faster. Conqueror has relatively low damage for how much effort it takes to actually land an attack on someone, given that your attacks are slow as shit and you cannot feint, so you're not going to be able to just throw them out randomly and get a hit in unless your opponent doesn't even have their hand on their guard switch. EVERY character can play safe until their last bar regenerates, I DARE you to play Conq against a PK with one bar left since you have nothing that does 1 full bar of damage and you're so slow that you will never combo two hits on her, even with wall pushes. If you somehow run out of stamina before Conq then you're actually retarded because he can't even get a light attack in without doing a shield bash first, which just eats stamina, and if you're making the mistake of using your heavy for anything other than a GB hit then that's another huge chunk of your stamina gone, even if it hits.

I think you just watch twitch streams of this game instead of actually play it
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>tfw i get so focused in 1v1s that if my opponent is nice and says something i never even reply
>tfw only reply to salty players and tell them to get gud
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Will they ever change the retarded fucking voice an enemy Lawbringer has? It doesn't suit him at all. Have they ever spoken about it? I don't think anyone likes it.
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>>170928896
>40 damage is more than 45 damage
?
unless the warden is hitting you while you're grounded, which makes you take increased damage, what are you talking about?
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>>170927975
holy fuck, max throw range?
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>>170927406
honestly i'm not even a /pol/fag but whenever i see a black viking i still get pissed off for some reason
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>>170928969
please tell me what is punishable about shieldbash, a move that starts up out of a dodge, has blockframes on the startup, beats every other push in the game, and recovers fast enough to reliably block valk sidedash lights(the fastest side dash attack in the game)

conq's only weakness is that he can't kill someone on their last bar without getting 2 hits, which sucks, but the rest of the char is so absurdly strong, what's the point
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>>170928969
>shieldbash can be punished!
>b-but im not going to tell you how h-haha im just sure it can be!
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>>170928837
I hope so!
I would have killed more but this faggot elected himself team captain and told them all to run from me because they would win from the clock running out.

Its hard to get executions in when you're 4v1 :(
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>>170929290
>>170929317

literally just fucking sidestep it and throw an attack

>b-but that doesn't work!

yes it does, if you dash in that wind up period it has you can easily get a hit in, especially if you're a class with any sort of side dash attack
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>>170929160
>For some reason

It's because it just looks stupid since the association is wrong both in what you'd normally visualize in mind and historically as well. It's like if you could see everyone's faces and could make your knights all incredibly chinese or something.
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Viking here, i hope you Knights take this round, i want to be able to bully weebs together with you
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>>170929046
well why is it that their overhead heavy chew my HP in half?
>hurr low defence
mine is as high as it goes yet they still shit on my HP
>hurr low attack
again, no it's as high as it goes. im giving up stamina for this bullshit and im coming out worse for it
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>>170929160
Because it's a huge immersion turnoff when you can make historically Scandinavian warriors into fucking sub-Saharan Africans.

I honestly wish we had Zulu Impi or Middle Eastern towelheads just so people who like to play as black characters can keep their race inclusivity to the right races.
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*ATTENTION XBROS*
There is now an /fhg/ club on xbox
If you would like to join either look up:
For Honor General Official
OR
add metalkid267 and i will invite you to the club
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I think Raider is actually leagues worse than LAW. They're both bottom tier but Lawbringer at least has A poke and SOME options off of parry. Raider has no options, ever. His only poke is either off of dash or telegraphed with a heavy attack. His heavy attacks are so slow they will only ever confirm off of an exhausted, grounded character. He doesn't actually have parry options, all that fancy grab augmentation makes him a worse character off of grab than even warden. All he has for mixups really is the unblockable and unblockable feint, but you can't crack shells with that because once you use it once that's half of your stamina gone. Raider is a joke of a character.
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>>170928410
>https://clips.twitch tv/CleanTenuousMomCoolCat
H O W do I do that?
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>it's a you can't kill the enemy because your braindead teammate keeps spamming lights and interrupting your attacks episode
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>>170929460
>>literally just fucking sidestep it and throw an attack
>class I'm playing doesn't even have a dodge attack
>Conq just throws out a heavy or light to interrupt my attempt to fight back because bash chains into attack without hit confirmation
Gee, thanks for that advice anon!
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>>170928410
uh, you can light after a dodged bash you know that right?..

>you don't need to take off 1 bar cause the game doesnt have regen hp
oh wait...

running bash is counterable on reaction, stop talking shit

i didn't say full stance was bad
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>>170929653
a black viking isn't nearly as big of a "immersion turnoff" as the fact that their armor is retarded and PK is a thing
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>>170926851
Both, because it'll keep them on their toes, but parry is better, more seamless transition into your next combo. Shoulder pin I find most useful for when I can see where the attack is coming from, but I can't change guard fast enough to parry.
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>>170929460
>literally just fucking sidestep it and throw an attack
Inb4, b-b-b-but ShieldBashCombo doesn't counts!
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>>170929160
and that is exactly why people make their characters black, you got le epic truled
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>>170929461
>Could make your knights all incredibly chinese or something

At least that would be funny, everyone being able to be giganigga charcoal black just comes off feeling like another concession so some "activists" or something wouldn't go full ape over a game full of whiteys and yes that includes the asians too I'd bet.
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>>170929697
stun cancel
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>>170929672
Hey bud. Won't be able to play tonight until at least 7:00 my time.
Feels bad being a wage slave.

Hopefully you can find some poor Basketball American and tease him again like last night
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>>170930060
Not them but it just gives me more niggers to kill, so woops, they actually did me a favor.
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>>170929913
>>class I'm playing doesn't even have a dodge attack

Then guard break, that works too.

>Conq just throws out a heavy or light to interrupt my attempt to fight back because bash chains into attack without hit confirmation

If you know this will happen then feint your attack and parry his.

You're welcome anon.

>>170930037

You can even see that PK recovered fully before getting hit with the heavy, he just didn't do anything. I can assure you I've tried exactly that against PKs and they recover fast enough to block or parry it.

What else have you got?
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>>170927002
>Am I autistic?
Yes
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hmm, Vikings probably has too much territory now to win the round, weebs probably has too little, i think the Knights might take this one
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>>170930060
I made my raider dark skinned because brown muscular girls are hot
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>>170930191
Allright man, i posted in the club about how it might be cool if we got the club and maybe some friends and did a tournament for shits and giggles if yall would be interested in it.
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>>170928873
just make the move recoil off of blocks for a free GB, easy

>>170929460
wow, literally every tourney player btfo, how could they possibly overlook this extremely easy to execute punish???
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>>170929950
It is tho
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>add people from /fhg/ on Uplay
>play, have lots of fun
>"see you next time"
>there's no next time

Either people secretly dislike me or the game is dying faster than even I expected (and I knew the game was dying).
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>>170930329
GBing someone coming out of a bash isn't guaranteed. Seriously, go try it out if you think it is.

>feinting a light
hwhat
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>>170930403
LAWD HAVE MERCY
IM COMING JESUS
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>>170930440
Please give me a good reason why a dark skinned berzerker is more of a turn off than a light skinned one. Because both are equally retarded to me
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>>170930329
pk recovered and tried to counterplay the shove by dash attacking???
not that guy, but wasn't that your entire fucking point? that it was punishable? he went for the punish, and got punished for doing so. if a lb tried to shove or longarm there, he'd have gotten fucked.
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>>170930403
Same. Mine is pitch black
>>170930614
Zerker just has the worst fucking hair
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>>170930542
its not fun to crash every second game
its also not fun to fight infinite warlords\pks\wardens in duels brawls
its also not fun to play any gear mode, ever
there you go
id play some inhouse duels, if i didn't fucking crash all the time that is
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>>170929950
It's all a turnoff for me. Women warriors, black Vikings, stupid weapon systems and made up techniques, gaudy effects that make you look like a god of war. All of it.
I've just accepted this game is "historical" fantasy and am embracing the crazy.
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>>170930759
It's 100% fantasy, are you retarded or something?
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>>170930037
>guy moves his block around while bashing
>my block is dead set on my last position while bashing
what is this shit
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>>170930886
Controller.
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>>170930759
For one thing, Vikings historically had female warriors and leaders. As for the whole thing about "historical fantasy", that's exactly what it is and designed to be. You have the apocalypse happening with the continents smashing together and the three cultures found on them entering a thousand years of war with no cultural diffusion in the slightest. People going "this game isnt realistic" are absolutely retarded, because it's not meant to be.
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>>170930993
what
you trying to tell me that controller is broken and mouse sucks? fuck off
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>>170930771
that second clip was cool, max stamina axeblade?

>>170930886
the white is your input, the black highlight is where your guard is currently due to attacking/dodging/etc
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>>170923557
Fukken' saved!
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>>170931089
you got that mixed up
white is the block
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>Tfw Shugoki is no longer top tier
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>>170930329
>Then guard break, that works too.
except it literally doesn't dumbass
just accept it, your class is for baby mode shitters
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>>170931254
>played shugoki at first
>up to rep 2
>never once used the glitch
fuck off retard he's fine
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>tfw maining a slow guard change class and then moving to a regular speed guard change

it's like i've become a god
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>>170930682
Watch the video, he tries to dodge attack as Conq is coming at him and JUST BARELY got blocked, the point I made and you obviously missed was that you can get a dash attack off ON STARTUP, as in, before he's moving forward at you. It's easy with good reaction time. It might have been a bit more difficult for the PK in that moment because he was recovering from a hit, but the bash was still fully dodgeable, as you can see by him escaping it.

>>170931283
Except it does, fag. Maybe not 100% of the time though, so I'm sorry I can't give you the perfect solution that you can do every time.
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>>170930160
They already went apeshit over 2 Euro factions and 1 Asian faction excluding people of colour.

In this case they just included Asians as white like they do for post-secondary admittance. And they call us the racists.
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>>170931254
you've shilled your video before my friend
it's awful, r/montageparodies might like it instead
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>>170930405
Tourney does sound fun. I think we can fit 8 in custom matches right? Should be enough for everyone depending on how many show up.

Maybe we can get someone to stream it
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>tfw we didn't get a viking hero thats like the one in the opening cutscene with an axe and a shield
Would have enjoyed that more than Berserker or Valkyrie
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>>170931405
I usually main LB, but I once played Warden to show my friend how shit warden I'm. I just spent 90% of fight switching guards and exclaiming how fast the guard change speed is.
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>>170931089
I think it was max attack, secondary stamina.

Thanks
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>>170931406
it didn't get blocked, it got parried
he literally got straight up parried after a side dash attack mid charge
you have to dodge at a specific time in order to actually dodge the charges in this game and not get tracked, and allowing characters with impenetrable defense to do this shit is what's killing the game
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>>170931406
He doesn't get blocked. In your own words, 'watch the video.' Dude gets straight parried for trying to punish the bash.
You can also see him block upper first, showing that even if the PK had dashed sooner, he came out of recovery fast enough to block.

It doesn't work ever. If you think it does, it's just someone fucking up the timing. Go try it if you don't believe me.
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When should I use NO SUPERSTES?
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>>170931572
I'm fucking retarded and shouldn't rename my WebM's on the fly.

>>170931658
Kenseis like you are bane of my existence.
>>
Is there anything us VyKangz can't accomplish?
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>>170931783
Did we win again?
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>>170931658
>>170931719
I'm not him, but if neutral bash only leads to a light then why is it a big deal?

You don't bounce off the wall unless they used it after a heavy
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>>170931780
i actually really struggle vs anyone that doesn't react to me pissing around, you'd probably shove my shit in
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>>170931834
One hour, they're poised to take it.
And we Knights look like we're going to be second again.

No doubt this will cause more people to jump ship from Samurai to Viking and this will be the constant for the rest of this season.
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>>170931783
>tfw you're so euphoric at the thought of Valhalla that you forget to attach your pic

>>170931834
Do we ever not?
>>
Fastest way to level up? I have champion status but reaching rep 2 is taking forever.
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>>170931905
because there's no way to punish it or overcome it unless you get extremely lucky with a light attack in between the dodge ending and the bash startup
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>>170931941
As someone who was a Knight in the betas and a Viking come full release, it's an odd feeling having not lost.
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>>170931406
>Except it does, fag. Maybe not 100% of the time though, so I'm sorry I can't give you the perfect solution that you can do every time.

yeah nah nobody is this retarded
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>>170931928
What good is a shove if it just puts things to neutral. You can use WebM for Bakas to trim vids too, and just keep the 15 minute record always active to shadowplay.

And honestly, I do really bad against Kensei's with good feint game, The Top Light, Heavy Feint, Light always gets me.
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>Dominant Skirmisher
Did anyone ever finish this order? What is the point of this shit. Seems like the best way to do this is to just killsteal with Raider's unblockable when you are done running for heal.
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>>170932039
>no way to overcome it
You can dodge, the conq takes a stamina hit and you're exactly where you started.

It's low risk/low reward
the only time I actually use neutral bash is when they're camping the regen 25 so I can finish with a heavy (only does 23 damage)
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>>170932241
I once had it done by playing Elimination. I never picked that order up again.
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>starting to get sick of lawbringer and his fucked nature

what do? its annoying me that this class is so fucking gimped
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>>170932361
Play Valkyrie. Suddenly realize which class actually has most versatile moveset.
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>>170931997
non-afk: spam dominion games, do RELEVANT orders/contracts (i.e. if you play legendary and there's a contract for some cuck assassin shit then dont bother with it unless you need the steel or are curious about the whole cuckoldry thing)

there's also another way that takes 99% (not exxagerating) less effort / player input [ ;-) ], but more time. but i don't want it to be patched so you'll have to find out the method in a more discrete way

think of it like an adventure anon!
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>>170932534
back to /gif/ with you cuck
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>>170932140
i meant shove my shit in as in fuck me up, not literally just shove me with lawbringer's shove
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>>170931014
Vikings never used women warriors unless absolutely necessary, and it never turned out well.
There's only been like 3 cases of it actually happening and it was when the Vikings were outgunned and had to pull all the stops much like mainland European powers employing women as breach fillers and oil dumpers during a siege. The women were never taking a frontline role.

Also don't fall for the shieldmaiden meme revisionist historians have been trying to push. Women being buried with swords was a sign of wealth, not combat prowess. How you were armed in society was an indicator of wealth; poor men carried axes, rich men carried swords, women and children carried knives, and thralls weren't allowed any weapons.
It's not outside the realm of possibility that wives of wealthy nobles would carry especially long knives bordering on swords.
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>>170932241
>raider
>killstealing
how do you steal something that belongs to you?

>>170932616
I'm not the cuck in that emblem anon
you - the onlooker - are
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>>170932502
*hits you with second fastest light in the game*
*headbutts you*
*sweeps you*
*hits you with top heavy*
*repeats this until you are dead*

Yeah real versatile alright
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>>170931834
Round ends today?
Fucking rights Vikings cucking everyone else twice in a row.
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>>170927406
Watch them add Zulu warriors or some shit and not give the option to make them white.
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>people genuinely need help to play CONK
>literally all you do is bash and swing
>some people find this hard to understand
>mfw
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Reposting from the newer thread.

Rep 12 PK here

What needs to be done to bring her in line is most of the damage from the zone needs to be moved to the second attack. Initial damage halved. It's versatility would make a LB proud, but it's too good. Can't nerf the speed for the same reason you can't do it to Orochi and Warden, without those existing it just reinforces the turtle meta. It's one of few tools that can pierce them.

The second attack on the light chain needs to have about 200ms added to the recovery to slow the spam down, which can be circumvented IF you continue the chain into the heavy at the end. However, this extra recovery time can not lead to being caught in an untechable guard break.

Do these things and PK will be in line. It will make the class harder for scrubs to abuse, but the actual experienced players won't be affected much. Also take off the extra range on the attacks. That was a retarded change.

Pic unrelated unless you've got a great imagination.
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>>170930771
>getting away with chains as lawbringer ever
4v4 everyone

though it is funny when people suddenly realize ad mortem can come from the side
>B-Burning Finger with the left hand!?
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>>170933032
that doesn't work on anyone with a brain
t. rep 4 conq
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>1 duel left for order
>crashes on the last round 4th time in a row
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>>170933109
How about you change it from the FASTEST IN THE GAME, also being unpunishable, to being 12 frames and punishable on block even if you cancel it.
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>>170933181
Its part of why im so shit in duels, I settle for having fun in 4v4 most of the time.
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>>170931412
Not to turn this into one of those discussions, but as a slanty-eyed motherfucker myself, nothing gets the neurons firing faster than when blacks feel fit to just lump me up into white people so they can try to talk down/up to me because we're somehow second-hand white enough to have some kind of upper hand on them or some horse shit.
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>>170933396
>12 frames
how about 31 like every fuckin other fast zone\attack in the game?
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>>170933181
>ad mortem can come from the side
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>>170933195
>>170933032
This. It's fucking impossible to get people into the vortex at my level. The best way to play conq at my level is play around people thinking you're gonna vortex them and let them overpredict.
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>>170932502
yeah, fuck it im not touching LAW until they fix this shit.

time to shit up the game with valk
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>>170933506
EVERY

FUCKING

TIME

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>170933109
what needs to happen is her zone needs to not be faster than lights in spite of not require a stance change. Her zone is fucking twice as fast as some lights and can be popped without the 8 frames of stance change to boot. If she does the whole zone it's actually safe on warlord's shield, and the second hit will hit him if he tries to attack after blocking the first.
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Do countering zones give you a free top heavy?

I parried PK's zone attack but she blocked my AD MORTEM.
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>This cunt wins EU tournament yesterday
>Get home from work today, decide to smash some shitters in duels to relax
>This asshole is my first match
>Destroys my conq 3 times
>"We're done here" before he leaves
>Find him in solo queue again
>Pic related

If you can't cure the cancer, become the cancer
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>>170933641
no
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>>170933502
12 frames is the same as the second peacekeeper light, well within reaction time. It's the same as Warden's.
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>>170933032
Basic spammy shit is actually countered by people after a certain level of competence.
It sucks asking for high level advice on a character and getting a bunch of replies back saying "JUST HEAVY BASH COMBO ALL DAY ECKS DEE"
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>>170933502
>31
???
Even at 60 fps it can't be 31, all the framecounts should be even numbers on that scale since some versions also play at 30 fps.
>>
>>170932316

But it's a Skirmish order
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>>170933706
If this isn't proof of how braindead broken PK is I don't know what is.
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>>170933706
>Peacekeeper is a broken class that plays the game for you

Whoa dude stop the presses!
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>>170933837
all the fastest attacks save for pks zone (21f) are 31f.
>>
>tfw stuck as a weeb til season ends
sigh
>>
Is this game dead already? I was thinking of buying it.

PC here.
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>>170934012
they're all faster than that last I checked, PK's zone is 18 frames at 60 fps
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>>170933520
>when you do something so stupid it works
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>>170933706
that guy is sort of a dick
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>>170934140
For the 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000th time, no.
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>>170934140
It's dying hard and will keep dying until they get out the patches they NEED to get out.
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>>170934238
>>170934261

I'm getting mixed signals.
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>>170923631
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>>170934140
no it's just shit that's all
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>>170934140
If you have to ask then yes, stick with league or whatever
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>>170934140
>>170934318
How do you define dead?
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>>170934318
It's not dead, but the playerbase is contracting. Currently the meta play is just not fun. It'll probably revitalise when they slam in Ranked and nerf Peacekeeper to the ground.
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>>170934140
It only has 5% the active playerbase than league does, a f2p game.
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>>170934395
>nerf PK
And when the fuck is that happening? She just got buffed last update, no?

Besides, you'd think the major problem would be the whole gear level bullshit.
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>>170934395
>it's another bitching about peackeeper post
why aren't you complaining about a broken character like warden or valk?
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Are console players worse than PC players (on average and outside of /fhg/ because I trust you to git gud)? I watch my friend play from time to time and everyone on ps4 seems to be completely retarded.
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>>170934584
>peacekeeper apologist post
>"okay at least anon deffer attention to warlord, the one more nerfworthy character"
>brings up warden and valk as alternatives
bait
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>>170933614
Here anon, this outta calm you down.

>>170933891
It's Ubi. Who knows, just try it. At worst you're gonna waste 7 minutes of your time.
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>>170934584
retard
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>>170934736
No it isn't "bait"

Warlord and Peacekeeper are both worse than Valk and Warden.

>>170934805
sure showed me
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>>170930405
>Custom tournament
>Filled with PKs and Warlords
No thanks
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>>170934650
I play it on both, because I have buds on both. At higher levels it's about the same, but there are more people on console that are in the lows. But at the same time, I think it's probably only slightly of rationally, it's just that Consoles have larger playerbases overall.
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>>170934845
Okay my man whatever you say.
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>>170934524
Basically, Ubisoft has a bunch of fires to put out, and they're trying to get it all done at the same time. At the least, they're being transparent about the whole thing.
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>>170935010
Great, glad we agree that Warden is fucking busted.

I don't even care about Valk, I'm just throwing her in there because she has a similar kit.
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Why the fuck can valk to spear sweep after two lights?
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>>170934140

It's unplayable about 80% of the time and also on its way to being dead, do not buy.

Matchmaker issues that will try to match you with full lobbies and a fucked up netcode so that you have to actually manually forward ports even with UPnP enabled

>Shitty P2P that originally claimed to have no host but actually has a host and if they leave the match tries to recovery but literally never actually does so it crashes and you get no credit

>Matches will break and send everyone to the main menu for no reason anyway even if the host doesn't leave

>Some people's game locks up and requires the task to be ended every time it goes to a black screen(aka every round of 1v1/2v2/4v4, or at the end of a dominion when it's loading rewards)

>Matchmaker isn't set up so you pick your character beforehand so that it can actually match you with people around the same level/gearscore, you instead get random fucked up matches there you're facing max geared people with no one even slightly comparable on your team

>Balance is fucking garbage and the S tier characters(Warlord, Peaceshitter) have such a huge power gap that they absolutely shit on equally skilled opponents and easily handle much better opponents.

You basically have to hope that it actually gets you in a match, then hope that the match isn't one sided as fuck with levels/gear, hope that there aren't bots on your team because people failed to connect, hope that the host doesn't leave the match, hope that it doesn't randomly disconnect you, hope that it doesn't lock up when it loads the next stage, and then hope that it doesn't lock up during the rewards screen.
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>>170933429
/pol/ memes aside, actual racists are just stupid to even hold a conversation with.
Basing your entire opinion on someone based off their skin colour instead of the culture that produced their shitty personality is just retarded.

I want to go full white man's burden though, other cultures are just inferior on a ranging scale and the first one that needs to die is fundamentalist Islam.
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>people who have no idea what to do in dominion
How can you be so useless fuck
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>>170934185
>sort of
If you google his name you find 3 of his accounts on cheat download sites
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>>170934140
This line of thinking is what kills games. If everyone shares the same thoguht as you and is waiting to see if the population lasts, then no one ever actually gets the game. Then the population continues to shrink before the game ultimately dies. It's a self-fulfilling prophecy, and it's maddening to see it happening.

You are the population you're waiting for. If you like the core gameplay and what is on offer, then get the game, population or no. You should get the game because you like the idea, not wait because you're worried about whether or not people like you are going to buy the game.
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>>170934584
Get a load of this Peaceshitter trying to shift the attention to classes that can outplay him because he's been playing Peaceshitter and never learned anything but mashing and dashing
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>>170935106
Whatever would finish one of her attack 3 chains can be replaced with a spear sweep.
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>>170934845
You don't even play this game.
Valk's combo is silly but any good player will not allow you to start it up. All warden has is a guessing game, a guessing game that PK even hard fucking counters. PK is in the tier with Warlord as the best attacker in the game bar none.
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>>170935215
I really don't give a shit if other people are buying the game, I just don't want to wait forever on matchmaking.
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>>170935260
Level 0 Warden
Level 0 Peacekeeper
come on at least try

>>170935282
>total rep 8
guess not
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>>170935282
>cancel bash into parry if they try to interrupt
wow much guessing
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>>170935106
By inputting her spear sweep after two lights? Backup and heavy, I think.
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>>170935335
Clearly you do, if you're concerned about the population of the game. If you like the gameplay, and you're willing to buckle in for the long haul with Ubisoft to turn the game into something more functional and memorable, then get the game.
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You guys are all idiots. Peacekeeper is fine.

The best waifu should be the most powerful.

Barabait like Lawbringer and Shugoki deserve to be shit classes.
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>>170935392
You can't do that on reaction, imbecile. You can't even start up the vortex against a decent PK because if you try to do anything other than cancel and parry the zoning will stagger you out of it, and once she has you conditioned to always cancel it she can work in her own mixups to keep YOU guessing.
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>>170935152
I keep trying to get my team to just hold a damn point but they never do.
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>>170933706
I've done almost exactly this before. Barely clutched out a 2\2 versus a PK and then went for the mirror on the rematch. Kicked her shit in 3/1 as a level 1 PK.

I literally only ever played her in the one story mission. Everything else was just me doing what i'm used to fighting against.

Wish I had taken a screenshot, honestly, just because a Rep 7 PK losing to an unleveled PK is telling.
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>>170935481
Nah, I'm more concerned about the staying value of this game.

Also, I don't really trust Ubisoft at all, they're making the same fucking mistakes they did with Rainbow 6, looks to me.
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>shitters that never boost points
>just mindlessly run mid dying to minion hits and feats
>die repeatedly mid to some faggot pk running around last hitting them from behind
>i stand on a point and get a few kills and score more points than the rest of the team combined
>lose
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>>170934845
>warlord isn't the most retarded character
>fullblock on reaction with the option to tech grabs in the process
>literal invincibility vs any any mixup
>all you have to do is know how to tech and parry slow unblockable openers

>PK
>18 frame zone that launches independant of your stance
>guard changes are 8 frames
>10 frames to react if you aren't already blocking to that side
>all on top of the indicator bug, making all of her lights indicators untrustworthy
>full zone on warlord shield gives you time to roll away unscathed
>lone fault is that she has low health in spite of being a gambling character
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>>170935639
meant for
>>170935152

dominion was a mistake
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>>170935152
Sorry mane, we was just memeing with Shugokis.
Top fo Wahlawd couldn't handle the maymays.
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>>170935392
>just react to the startup of the zone by canceling, changing your stance, and then parrying an 18/60 frame attack
>just reaction parry something that is so fast 75% of the human population can't even notice it happened before it's over
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>>170935632
Then don't buy it

I could give less of a fuck what you do with your $60. You have the information you need, stop bothering us.

>>170935770
>fullblock on reaction with the option to tech grabs in the process
Warlord: Full Block Stance was not intended to be a reactive tool to replace all other defense methods. The Full Block stance has been delayed from instantaneous activation to a 200ms delay after the input. This will also fix some replication bugs.
please update your memes
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so I was congratualted by a high rep peacekeeper for constantly parrying his lights and even second lights.
am I abnormal?
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>>170935935
Ubisoft decided to update some people's memes a week later than others, nice job ignoring the rest of my post
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>>170935984
No, you're a liar.
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>>170935984
Yes you have reaction times that are well above 90th percentile for the human race.
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>>170935984
how did he use his second lights if you parried the first ones
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>>170936186
He would get hit by the first but parry the second.
If you block lights on any character it cancels the chain.
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>>170936049
>literal invincibility vs any any mixup
what are you even talking about
>all you have to do is know how to tech and parry slow unblockable openers
yeah this is literally every character by your definition

>18 frame zone that launches independant of your stance
so slower than warden?
>guard changes are 8 frames
so the same as berserker?
>10 frames to react if you aren't already blocking to that side
Very similar to warden's zone, requiring you to hold left block
>all on top of the indicator bug, making all of her lights indicators untrustworthy
as if every class doesn't have this problem
>full zone on warlord shield gives you time to roll away unscathed
on fullblock maybe, but why aren't they parrying the second part of the zone like a competent player?

look, there, I replied to your shitpost

happy?
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>>170936186
Lots of PKs whiff the first on purpose to get straight to the 12 frame second. It still fucks me up because I'm a parrylord and I can't cancel the heavy and react to the second fast enough.
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>>170935984
You had a good match, well done.

I've had a few matches where I managed to parry Peacekeeper lights and shit on them because they don't know how to play or adapt because the character is so autopilot, but the connection is so rarely good enough to occasionally parry a PK that those kinds of matches are like 1% of my PK matches.

If the connection isn't absolutely pristine they can just mash to their heart's content like the shitters they are
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>>170936186
I didnt parry everyone of them just most of them, couple went through so I decided to see if I could get the other one.
desu it was pretty hard.
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>>170936553
If your Warlord you don't need to cancel your heavy to parry.
Just hit him with your amored heavy and start chaining him.
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>>170935935
That's fair, I suppose.

That being said, I'm still interested in the game, so I'll wait and see if they patch my major gripes with the game, at least.
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>>170936663
the hell? I didnt put Desu in there.
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>>170936456
>slower than warden
Wardens is 24 fucking frames. Warden's zoning is only as fast as peacekeeper's SECOND LIGHT ATTACK.
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>>170933520
>into the vortex
>conq
stop
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>>170936826
>he doesn't know about wordfilters
desu senpai baka
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>it's the prestige 1 kensei vs prestige 4 orochi 3-0 episode AGAIN
Do roaches attract literally retarded people? And I don't mean stupid, I mean actual people with disabilities. I posted that in the previous thread, but I 3-0 SEVEN prestige 3-7 roaches like that.
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>>170936669
No, I'm a warden. I just go for parries often because I really want to master parries on all fast attacks.
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>>170936876
nice job ignoring the rest of my post
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>>170934140
If that question ever comes to mind then yes, its dead.
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>>170934140
Deader than a Dove in a paper bag in a fridge.
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IS IT JUST FUCKING ME OR DID THEY PUSH THE END OF THE ROUND BACK 12 HOURS?
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>>170936826
Shame SHAME desu senpai
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>>170937019
But everyone argues that the problem with PK is her breakneck and also unpunishable speed. I just fucking proved she's the fastest, safest class in the game. If you react to and block warden's zoning, you know what you get? A free guardbreak. If you manage to predict and block PK's first canceled zoning, you know what it nets you? A light thrown immediately after from a different direction chained into another light.
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dead game, shit devs, rip
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>>170937060
That's pretty dead senpai
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>>170937285
>>>/v/
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>>170937010
Roaches are braindead and have shit for options. They're straight worse peacekeepers.
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>>170937285
The game needs a lot more fanservice, that'll revive it.
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>>170937236
Sure seems like you were bitching about other stuff there, like guard swap speed and indicator bugs

Why don't you address all my points like you so autistically had me do? You didn't even mention Warlord again.

Is it because you know I'm right?
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fatget
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>>170936826
moot's parting gift before he left to keep the niggers away
(might've been hiroshima, though. I forget)
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>>170937236
BUT MUH RED HERRINGS

You'll never get a Peaceshitter to understand their waifu is killing the game because she's such a shit design. They're degenerates that are attracted to a female character that they can't even see.

>>170937373
For instance
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>>170936456
>what are you even talking about
that's not a reply

>so slower than warden?
warden's is 24 frames, with 8 frame block changes you can react to that. Warden's zone is slower than PK's lights and only seems quick because it's independent of his stance.

>guard changes are 8 frames
I wasn't saying her guard changes are 8 frames, it was a comparison to the prior frame value genius
initial guard changes in general are all 8 frames

>Very similar to warden's zone, requiring you to hold left block
you don't have to hold left against a warden unless you're a slowpoke

>as if every class doesn't have [indicator bug]
PK is the only one who cancels lights into something for-sure unreactable, you need a 0.1666s reaction speed if you're changing guards to block it, which is faster than most people can even do by ear, let alone sight

>on fullblock maybe, but why aren't they parrying the second part of the zone like a competent player?
yeah, on fullblock, which is (or was depending on how slow it is now) the only way to deal with untrustworthy lights
if warlord can't R2 after blocking the first hit, what makes you think he has time to lower his fullblock stance, then switch guards and also parry?

>happy?
no you did a really bad job
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>>170937019
To be fair, the rest of your post kinda relied on the fact that her zone wasn't busted.

Her zone isn't similar to Warden's, because you can block Warden's on reaction.

The Indicator bug is bad on Warden, sure, but it's inarguable worse on a character who has both faster lights and a faster zone, meaning you have even less time to determine which you have to block. Especially consider her plinking after throwing out a whiffed light: you either have to block some 24 or so frame followup light, or block a plinked Zone. If you guess wrong you eat the damage.

Who the fuck would complete the Zone? You can zone his full block and get away unpunished. That's the point he was making.
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>>170937121
Looks like it. Thought it was ending 6 hours from now.
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>>170937060
I don't know what I expected...
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>>170937015
Oh, I got mixed up because you called yourself a parrylord and I thought that was a nickname for Warlord. My b
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>>170937391
I'm not that guy, I'm the guy you started the argument with. You're fucking retarded if you can't see Peacekeeper is leagues better than every class other than Warlord. There's a power gap a mile wide between peacekeeper and the next class on the totem pole.
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>>170937413
>Warden's zone is slower than PK's lights
Just double checked this and I'm actually wrong here, it's tied with her second lights
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>>170937359
>>170937010
Roach is actually an honest class. It's a completely balanced Assassin, with Berserker being bad but playable and PK being fucking retarded overtuned.

Roaches have to actually outplay you, they don't get to spam because they're parryable if they throw extra attacks. And half of the stuff they people think they're doing that's guaranteed comes off of guard breaks that are actually techable.

t. not a Roach main, I just respect them because Peacekeeper exists.
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vikings do nothing all round, until last round where they push hard and go apeshit.
like there needs to be a better way to do this.
if nothing fucking matters until last round then whats the fucking point of a 2 week round
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>>170937121
UNDER BUDGET AND BEHIND SCHEDULE. SAD!
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>>170937413
>greentext
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>greentext
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>greentext
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do you want to do this until someone gets bored, because that's what you're asking for
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Are Assassin dodge-parries awful or something? I haven't witnessed a single assassin that does them and I don't understand why, Roach especially gets a really nice heavy from it.
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>>170937828
>dodge-parries
what?
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>>170937578
PK is the casual filter, all the good players can just parry her lights, not all but you only have to parry two to kill her
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>>170937698
The point is you can knock out the other faction's strongholds and make it into a 2 man race.
Problem is the rubber banding is so hard in faction war that it never happens.
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>>170937716
>being btfo this hard
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>>170937828
There is no point, just normal parry and hit them

>>170937908
Deflects
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>>170937828
The heavy requires the opponent do literally nothing for it to land
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>>170937908
You dodge into the direction of their attack with parry timing to gain special attacks, like how Berserker gets a guard break from it. I don't know what the correct term is.
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>>170933631

No good PK ever finishes the zone in anyone because the second hit is literally the most predictable move on the planet and can be parried for literally all your stamina.
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>>170937661
I just want them to fix the indicator bug, I've been fucked so many times by roach simply because I think its another overhead as usual but changes into the side.
same thing with the pk and warden
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>>170932534
you tell me that farming method right now, rimunal scum!
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>rep 8 LB
>play dominion
>doing good, killing enemies, taking points
>look at the score
>were losing
>check teammates
>die like flies, not a single level taken, kills only from following me
>we lose at 1500 with only me
>mfw its 5th match like this today
Even enemy team commended me in the end
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>>170937946
I'm actually not him, he's probably conducting one of those replies right now.

I just don't enjoy when threads devolve into two shitposters nitpicking specific sentences and greentexting the entire argument in a snowball
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>>170938000
Oh yea. Well berserker gets a top heavy if he throws you into a wall.
Orochi gets more damage off a grab im pretty sure, and pk fuck knows.
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>>170937716
You just got blown out so hard you're critiquing the FORM of the argumentation that you indulged in.
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>>170937931
how the fuck do you even knock them out?
knights had the weebs stronghold on two fronts and were outdefending them.
you cant deploy assets to the stronghold
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Wow you guys are so good at this game.

Please tell me more about how you outplayed your opponents
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>>170938074
>with only me alive
fix
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>>170938071
its not really a bug and its not going to get fixed, get used to it
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>>170937924
This is either bait or a peacekeeper that seriously believes the bullshit they say. This is the physical embodiment of "Just parry it".
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>>170937924
>even top tourney players are filtered

I hope one day you'll realize how retarded you were.
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>>170938221
>man attack me
>i hit sword and make attack not hert
>hit him back with EPIC big hit
>call him name in chat
killedt o death!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>170937924
>you only have to parry two to kill her
this is ultimately the one bad thing about PK

if you're trying to get a perfect kill unscathed PK requires insane luck to play against

if you're okay with taking some damage and can avoid her grab combo you can win at least as easily as you would against characters that are considered warden-tier

she's as much a shitter filter as she is a shitter character though
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Should I try to main Lawman? He looks so cool, even if he's a bit shit compared to the other heros.
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>>170938113
You got fucking destroyed.
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85% of the people who play this game are salty, angry, 12-year olds, or act like they're 12.
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>>170938485
he's right, you know. consider suicide, you pre-pubescent chode
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>>170938348
If you're aiming to parry any decent player can just murder you to death with feints, whiffs, and mixups. Not to mention NO class can kill a PK in two parries aside from maybe valkyrie and her stupid wombo combo.
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>>170938447
go for it

Also, if you think someone is going to backroll after you shove, running attack works. I don't know if it's actually safe, but noone seems smart enough to block it if it is. You also should know how to feint then parry the opponent's parry attempt.
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>Only 6000 people online
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>>170938751
what is this retarded fucking chart?
>console prompts
nevermind.
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>>170938808
People have jobs and school, so it's not that surprising.
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>>170938909
i guess the 120k people in the beta who didn't have jobs and school all died playing the release
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>>170938205
Surround it entirely, I assume
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>>170937413
>that's not a reply
I'm ASKING YOU A QUESTION
What do you even mean "Immune to mixups" Warden's still works perfectly.
>I wasn't saying her guard changes are 8 frames
>guard changes are 8 frames
hmmm
>you don't have to hold left against a warden unless you're a slowpoke
guess you don't have to hold block for PK then either because it's clearly slower than swap speed
>PK is the only one who cancels lights into something for-sure unreactable, you need a 0.1666s reaction speed
Let's see some more numbers
>yeah, on fullblock
Why on earth is a warlord doing a fullblock now?

>>170937415
>To be fair, the rest of your post kinda relied on the fact that her zone wasn't busted.
Let's ignore the entire Warlord bit

>Who the fuck would complete the Zone? You can zone his full block and get away unpunished. That's the point he was making.
Who the fuck would full block after patch?

>>170938113
lol
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>>170924591
Fuckin shit up and being stupid. Seriously someone was calling for Vikings to go down middle as if that's helpful
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>>170938816
>controller prompts = console prompts
lmao
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>>170937413

PK can't cancel lights, period. Your argument is invalid.
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>TFW you've played long enough and are good enough not to get triggered by retards or losing

It was a long, windy road full of edgy comments, but I've escaped to the other side of PURE EUPHORIA
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>>170939060
I still fullblock after patch. It's still an amazing move and people that think it's useless now are retarded.
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>>170939007
b-back to /v/!
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>>170939086
>controller brain=console brain
made me thing
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>>170939007
120k people were playing on a non-holiday Monday in the middle of the day? Ok. I don't care, this game is probably going to die at some point anyway.
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>>170926124
Can someone make this into a 'to be continued' with the falling blue on the PK?
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Am I the only one who leaves queue when the skill rating goes from "extended" to "all"? Mostly because my highest gear score is 35.

After 5 or so tries I just give up and join a match where everyone is everything between 0-108. Which is most of my 4v4 experience anyway.
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>>170938315
well I mean, would someone be considered good if they can parry her lights?
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>>170939284
"at some point" sounds really optimistic
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>>170939120
someone told me Beserker side attacks can be cancelled. I've tried multiple times but that doesn't seem to be the case.

You can't cancel lights at all, on any character, can you???
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>>170939203
>still an amazing move
>200ms startup
>amazing
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>>170939390
It's a pretty bad game, but there's enough good stuff to keep me coming back. Then again, I'm not a reee normie reee
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>>170939410
Nope. Only heavies.
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>>170939410
no.
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>Nobushi's "shake it out" idle animation where she wiggles in place
That shit's cute.
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>>170939410
Only thing that can be remotely considered a canceled light is when you roll it into a zone
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>>170939007
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>>170939539
its a good game, but its broken
thats about it
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>Raider main
>Decide I want some fresh air and buy the Lawbringer
>He's pretty fun
>Realize all his move almost rely on parry and guardbreak
>It doesn't go well with his speed
>Mfw my first peacenigger with him
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>>170933520
>at my level
>when conq has won every 1v1 tournament
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>>170939410
you can cancel them with a dash
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>>170938656
>You got fucking destroyed.
actually ain't me

>>170938664
if you're only aiming to parry lights and opt to block heavies you won't fall for feints

if you parry one third of her attacks and punish properly afterword it's not completely unlikely she'll die before you, unless she gets a grab or something in, which lowers your health enough to make gambling no longer an option

and I'm throwing this out as a silver lining, not a defense of her

>aside from maybe valkyrie and her stupid wombo combo
I would consider that more than a parry, obviously conq parrying then popping revenge and killing PK in a corner wouldn't count as killing her in one parry

>>170939060
>hmmm
the fact that I wasn't saying her guard changes are 8 frames doesn't mean I was denying it retard

if I say "I'm not saying the sky is blue" that doesn't definitely mean I'm actively denying the claim that the sky is blue, it means that I'm getting at a different point

the point was not that "oh, her changes are 8f," it was to get you to compare 8f to her zone time and do the math

>guess you don't have to hold block for PK then either because it's clearly slower than swap speed
are you litteraly retarded? the fact that it's slower than swap speed doesn't mean you can react to it. Warden's zone gives you about 16 frames if you're switching, which is around the fastest a human can react with screen delay taken into account.

>Let's see some more numbers
her zone is 18 frames, if you're changing to block it, you're going to be changing at 8 frames at best, which leaves 10 frames. 10f / (60f/s) = 0.1666...s, and that's without taking screen and input delay into account

>Why on earth is a warlord doing a fullblock now?
because A) I was talking about prepatch in the post and B) postpatch, if he has the stamina he still has no reason not to pop it, fish for an attack, then release it and retreat until he gets stamina
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>>170939471
>blocks from all three directions
>has two moves you can do out of it by default, three if you block an attack with it. The poke is relatively useless but the headbutt and heavy are still great
>can tech out of guardbreaks while in it unlike conq just in case you're retarded
>can use it in reaction to someone dashing rather than just when someone attacks
Gee, Bill, how on Earth could this be an amazing tool?
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>wanna practice PK light parrying vs bots
>all the bots just throw GB's and heavy attacks until they're out of stamina

fucking shitter bots
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>>170938315
people can parry her lights. I played PK for a long time, and at the top tier it was something fairly common if you weren't mixing up.

If you mix up though it's near impossible. PK really is a bullshit class. I don't think her lights need to be slowed down, because 500ms is plenty of fucking time to react you crybaby manginas, but they need to do less damage since lights are so low risk. It's not fair that a move that does so much accumulative damage takes like zero risk at mid and even high tier most of the time.

It's actually pretty retarded, and I can completely see why new players would get butthurt and quit the game after witnessing such bullshit.
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>>170939203
>muffled horvatmeme
>dies
yea rly amazing
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>>170939120
>hey whats the indicator bug guys? I literally just bought the game
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when did 1v1 become a dead playlist?

one would think that mode would always have the degenerates in it long after the 4v4 modes die because you can't finish those matches and now they have like 2 maps.

but 1v1 is queue city and it's the same guy most of the time. A MONTH AFTER RELEASE
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>>170940029
consider this:
classes with 1 fast attack are shit
classes with 2 fast attacks are great
class with 3 fast attacks is op
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>>170939983
>try to block shit
>get hit anyway
>do it prematurely
>sit there bleeding stamina like a retard
are you a dominion player or something
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>>170935152
>Want to level up my side character
>Do challenge for dominion
>Get absolutely memed on by fuckers on their mains with revenge gear
WHO THE FUCK APPROVED REVENGE GEAR?
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>>170940163
Because people eventually get tired of fighting the 3 same classes over and over and over and over again.
Especially since they're currently in the "most unfun to fight against" tier right now.
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>>170940163

>>170939978
>>170939983
he was right, I got bored
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>>170940163
game literally lost 97% of userbase already
and everyone is fishing orders FOR SOME REASON

>>170940245
dont forget, devs officially stated that per character matchmaking is not happening, cause f youre good with one character, youre obviously good enough with everyone else
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>>170939975
Warlord won every tournament before the nerf. This weekend PKs won.
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>>170940226
>>do it prematurely and sit there bleeding stamina like a retard
>any time anything is done prematurely your opponent will just be waiting for you
>no chance whatsoever that they happened to perform some action at the same time as you

wow parrying PK lights literally never happens since you need to do it prematurely
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>>170940163
it's dominated by the same 2-3 classes

if you found a good mix of all the different classes it would probably be much busier
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>still remotely new to the game
>level 14 conq that I feel okay at
>1v1 a prestige 9 lawbringer
>get absolutely shit on and learn nothing at all

when does the game get fun
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nerf warden
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>>170940226
Did you miss the part where I said you could still do heavies and headbutts out of it or something? If they're dashing in and you go into full guard, they have to *immediately* dash the fuck back out or else they're getting destroyed.
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>>170940369
Well yeah, he really only needed that reaction fullblock to deal with PK zone cancels, in the hands of a good player he probably feels the same vs any other character. Warden and conq winrates against him should barely change.
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>>170940397
>wow parrying PK lights literally never happens since you need to do it prematurely
yea i forgot parrying has a 200ms delay as well
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I'm getting tired of these characters, which of the red circled ones should I try next?


>>170940450
that's fighting games for you
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A GOOD KILL
SWIFT, AND EFFICIENT
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>>170940586
Nobushi. Warden is boring, PK is bullshit, Berserker causes you to eventually become a toxic shitter regardless of how good you were previously.
t. a former Berserker player
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>>170938348
>warden-tier

Warden is A tier, PK and Warlord are S tier, what did you mean by this?

It seems like you were implying that Warden wasn't the 4th best character or something, behind PK, Warlord, and Conq

Are you a peaceshitter in disguise?
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>>170940542
lol well good thing I reminded you
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>>170940450
>lose to a lawbringer in 1v1
lemme guess, you tried to attack

the shit meta in this game has so much weight to whoever goes second/reacts, it's legitimately awful
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>>170937578

An indicator bug isn't a cancelled light, doe.
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>>170940714
>conqueror is good
discarded
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>>170940507
>you could still do heavies
I mean if you play vs shitters might as well just start throwing raw heavies without going into the memestance. What you really get is a mini headbutt and thats it.
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>>170940810
you're retarded if you think conq is bad lol
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>>170940356
>dont forget, devs officially stated that per character matchmaking is not happening
This is fucking bullshit considering they made gear so fucking OP you literal need it to combat people with it.
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>>170939134
*tips fedora

Anyway, I play fighting games and mobas so I'm fully aware of staying calm and learning instead of getting mad and ignoring good experience.

Peaceshitter just happens to be absolute cancer.
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>>170940839
He's even in the same category as Warden PK and Warlord.

Tell me, what do you think is bullshit about him and I'll tell you why you're wrong.
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>>170940714
>Are you a peaceshitter in disguise?
no I'm >>170939978 for haven's sake

being potentially equally easy to beat as someone from that tier doesn't mean she's definitively within that same tier, a warden player can actually be seriously outplayed by someone skillfull, PK neutralizes a lot of that
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>170940951
post uplay ill show you why conq is better than you think
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>>170940432
it is boring yes. should scrap it and leave 1v1 for custom games. merge all the 4v4 playlists and add mode voting, and remove all AI orders. just get rid of everything that splits the matchmaking pool up. the queues are really fucking bad and will only get worse.
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>>170940759
Good thing human body developed the ability to use fullblock with no natural delay. Magnificent creatures we are.
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>>170938205
You might have to control all 3 territories around the stronghold and checkmate it.
I don't know though, it's all speculative right now because a stronghold has never fallen, only been threatened.
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>>170941023
Tell me why you think he's broken.

I also play conq, I think he's decent but you're joking if you consider him a serious competitor.
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Worst part of this game's low population is the scarcity of dickgirl porn.
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>>170940698
>Berserker causes you to eventually become a toxic shitter regardless of how good you were previously.
what
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>>170941228
Go back to your containment (Overwatch) general.
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>>170941228
The only chick who's getting any kind of dick is Apollyon, and that's to forcefully dom Mercy with.
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Oh shit, i forgot about all thoose emblems and patterns.

How ridiculous do i look? I even blew 100 games worth of steel on the ugly ornament.
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>>170941363
make me
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>>170941228
Futa FemRaider raping a Nobushi is an inevitability with how hard the weebs are getting fucked by Kangs

>>170941313
I realized it had happened to me and saw a trend among people who played 'em. Friends that started to main/play Berserker regularly became worse and more toxic while the worst people I've met online are Berserker players.
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>>170940698
>Nobushi
>Not boring
>"Toxic"
kys
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>>170933520
Rep 5 Conq here.

I still get people in the bash heavy combo all the time.
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>>170941395
>When Mercy says "almost there..." in a hushed voice

Instant boner material.
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>>170941185
shield bash being unpunishable

block on dodge effectively allowing him to have 2 stances blocked at the same time

fullblock cancelling hitstun from shoulder/headbutt/shieldbash etc

unlocked heavies/lights being unparriable

indicator glitch for charged heavy

other misc fullblock canceling shenanigans

you're probably a mediocre conq if you think he isn't top tier

that being said he's not as annoying as PK
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>>170941439
Lawbringer's best ornament is the one for completing the Knight campaign on realistic.

Unless you were purposefully wanting to look awful, in that case you succeeded.
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>>170939978
This is the most stupid suggestion i've ever seen. So stupid it has to come from a pisshitter. You have to parry as soon as you see the indicator since the lights are so fast, you can't wait to see if it's a light or heavy.
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>>170941069
If you're the same anon you're missing the point of >>170940397

parrys are done preemptively

they work

fullbock is also done preemptively

but according to the prior that alone doesn't prove it to be useless, since preemptive things can potentially work

the window for parrying is longer than the window for blocking anyway hence why one of them was originally reaction based when the other wasn't, you can still fullblock preemptively the same way you would parry preemptively, you're covering more options at once in exchange for less downsides for making a mistake unless you really love stamina

you're imagining someone just sitting there and fullblocking whenever he has stamina, which is as incredibly fucking stupid as someone just standing there throwing out parry attemps when his opponent isn't even near him
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>>170926871
She didn't want to stop her combo so she continued it
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>>170941583
>shield bash being unpunishable
M E M E
E
M
E
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>>170941618
>You have to parry as soon as you see the indicator since the lights are so fast
you can't parry the lights on reaction either way, stupid pissshitter
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>>170941720
it's not a meme, the only character who can punish it is conqueror lol
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>>170941583
>block on dodge effectively allowing him to have 2 stances blocked at the same time
and getting hit through the block cause it only blocks in the direction of your dash
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Crown ornaments for Lawbringer/Warden when?
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>>170941832
you keep your passive guard in the direction of the opponent's fastest attack

react to the slower attack with dodge and you get a guaranteed shield bash -> light
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>>170941514
I meant that Warden was boring since you see them incredibly frequently and they all play the exact same. Nobushi is seen rather infrequently and there's a good divide in the playstyle of the skill levels to where you can see whether or not you're playing against a good one.
>>170941759
You can, but it can be incredibly difficult.
>>170941898
Probably never, considering how few good ornaments there are.
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>Got banned for AFK farming
>It's been 5 days
>Realize I wasn't even enjoying myself anymore and AFK farming was my way of supporting an unhealthy addiction to making video game characters look cool.
>Ban lifted today and I haven't even played

I don't know what to feel.
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>>170941802
>dash
>m1
wow so hard
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Do Wardens have some special property on parry when exhausted ? I parry him when we're both tired as a Lawbringer he stubbles but stands. He parries me I fall. Why ?
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ᛖᚨᛏ ᛏᚺᛖ ᛈᛁᛉᛉᚨᛊ!
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>>170941972
doesn't punish conq can block (or parry) in time
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>>170941656
>>170941759
>parrys are done preemptively
>you can't parry the lights on reaction
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>>170941583
>shield bash being unpunishable
you mean from neutral?
the one that rewards you with 15 damage?

>block on dodge effectively allowing him to have 2 stances blocked at the same time
a characteristic of other shield characters, and it only works if you're dodging in the direction that you block

>fullblock cancelling hitstun from shoulder/headbutt/shieldbash etc
This is true

>unlocked heavies/lights being unparriable
They are punishable on block

>indicator glitch for charged heavy
The indicator glitch is not a valid point when every class has access to it

>other misc fullblock canceling shenanigans
like?

>you're probably a mediocre conq if you think he isn't top tier
I'm alright, 76% winrate in duels
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>>170942030
>MFT THM CIYYFE!
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>>170941962

I know that feel.

>Running into the same 3 players over and over in duels, 1 of them keeps disconnecting if he loses even 1 round
>4v4 is only fun on my main and that's because I have a broken revenge build that makes me unstoppable
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>>170941601
that was my goal.
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Why the fuck was the end of the round set back 12 hours? Was it so that Ubicuck could rig the numbers so that Vikings didn't take it all?
>>170942097
Not him, but winrate means literally nothing.
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>>170941953
>>170942080
>PK light parries aren't guesses
>by the way, any light could actually be an unreactable zone attack
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>>170942072
no they cant, unless they patched that in
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Reminder PK mains
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>>170942097
15 damage, stamina drain and pausing the opponent's stamina regeneration

conqs block on dodge is more lenient and is not universal to shield class (see: warlord)

they aren't punishable on block

charged heavy can give 3 indicators or be fullblock canceled (with attack indicators) into guard break

not going to reveal even more conq tech than i already have in the past

winrate doesnt mean anything
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>>170942295
>Kensai
Worse than Hitler.
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>>170941395
>>170941582
It wouldn't be a "sheeps and wolves" allegory if Apollyon weren't trying to cajole Mercy into being dominant for once.
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>>170942295
>says the kensai who can do a unstoble animation
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>>170942295
>unstoble
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>tfw the only fun you get from this game anymore is kicking people from 4v4 with hax
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>>170942276
we're talking about his dodge+x (shield bash) the one that doesn't wallsplat
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Guilty pleasures?

I actually LIKE playing an aggressive Orochi more than any other class...
>>
AD
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>>170942263
The lights aren't guesses, but the zone indicator bug is where things get fucky. If that's what you meant, then yeah, you have to guess. If that weren't in the game, you would be able to reaction parry them fairly consistently.
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>>170940698
>>170941497
This guy is right, berzerker plays are easily the worst.
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Where do you see character's health values? I can get damage values easy peasy but I never see max hp listed anywhere.
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>tfw you finally get the blonde Warlord helmets
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>when you switch to Valkyrie and realize what true fun is
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>>170942756
Shes like an assassin version of Warden
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>>170942295
I ran into this guy in a 4v4, he played nobushi and constantly bitched and moaned about everything including getting ledged by Raider.
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>>170942595
I enjoy all of the smut that writefags make
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So how long until Lawbringer and Raider buffs?
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God, I love it when the thread gets into angry shitposting about balance.
You guys are all great.
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>>170942429
>stamina drain and pausing the opponent's stamina regeneration
fair point about the regen, but the stamina drain is pretty minimal when you look at characters with actual stamina drain like shugoki

>conqs block on dodge is more lenient
can I see some sources?
>is not universal to shield class
I said it was shared, not universal

>charged heavy can give 3 indicators
You mean at the same time or that he can aim it in all three directions? His shield position will always give away the direction he's looking.
>or be fullblock canceled into guard break
You don't need to fullblock to use GB out of a charged attack, you just can't GBC.

>not going to reveal even more conq tech than i already have in the past
nice cop-out

>winrate doesnt mean anything
Of course it does, if I said my winrate was 26% you'd all be shitting on me
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>>170942921

>worrying about balance in a game with 6000 players in the entire world

This game has bigger problems, lack of content.
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I swear if they dont announce a balance patch for next week Im gonna start playing pk.
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>>170942857
I played with him once after I took that screenshot and 90% of the chat was him bitching incoherently. Go figure
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I wish i could hide my rep level so i can play without getting a message every game.
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>>170940972
The highest level of play
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>>170942551
Does throw distance affect how far the dodgebash pushes people away? Does it affect all the bashes?
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>>170942612
>If that weren't in the game, you would be able to reaction parry them fairly consistently.
I get that, but the fact that every light could be means you're presuming the future when you parry one. At the moment the only way to truly reaction parry them would be to measure how late you can turn a light into a zone, then try and react only from that point of the indicator's lifespan onward, which would definitely not be enough time considering you only have barely enough when you react to the start. If you wait long enough to actually confirm that it isn't a zone, you definitely can't react.
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>>170943064
>tfw still plenty of lvl 1 characters to pretend im new to the game after shitting on high prestige players
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Should Lawbringer's shove wallsplat?
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Shugoki is such a fucking easy mode character in 4v4, it's such fucking bullshit
>Playing dominion to level up another character
>Enemy Shugoki does nothing but wait for his team to attack me, and then bear hugs
>Can't dodge out of it because the hug does small tracking
>Gangbanged to death during the hug
This shit is beyond retarded
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>>170943118
I think not but it feels like it affects the tech push
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>>170943206
You are fucking retarded stop posting. I hope this is bait.
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>>170943307

Yes. A thousand times. Would increase his CC potential and make him dangerous.
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When's Raider buff? they have the worst tools in the game to work with. Worse than the law.
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How would you actually nerf or change parrying so people actually have incentive to attack instead of reacting?

Make lights unparryable?
Make parrying significantly harder to do? If yes how would you do it?
Make parrying cost a lot of Stamina?
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>>170942612
Even with the best reaction times and perfect indicators parrying PK's zone would be tricky.
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>>170942947
No, I wouldn't. It being that low means that you don't quit before you lose and that you don't farm against bots to boost it. You could be really good and get paired up with people who're even better.
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>>170942857
Can you blame the guy? He clearly has autism and probably cant control himself
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>>170943358
calm down anon
tell me where the bad man touched you
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>>170943307
>Get slammed in a wall by a big ass dude in full plate with a giant ass poleaxe
It fucking should.
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>>170943316

Yeah and?
He's worthless in 1v1 and 2v2 (honorable).
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>>170943019
Yeah they really should push out the content faster and open the valves on the game economy. I highly doubt the game is maxing out at 6k players though. It was the middle of the afternoon on a Monday when those numbers were pulled. This game still has a ways to go before it really dies.

A big part the community can do to help keep the game alive is not shit on it for being small. That's doing no one any favours because it scares off the players who were thinking of buying.
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>>170934140
Oh it's you again /v/ poster
You missed yesterday
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>>170943431
Make parrying cost a small amount of stamina, reduce the window where you can actually parry.
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>>170943206
>the fact that every light could be
-could be a zone, if that wasn't clear
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>>170943650

The bully webms we'd get would be glorious.
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>>170937060
>>170937334
>>170937524
>>170934261
>>170935107
>>170935215
>>170937056
Great posting my fellow /v/ user !
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>>170943815
post bullying
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>>170943489
If some testimony would help you I'll tell you that I have never ran from someone who beat me without a valid RL reason.

My winrate being below 100% is testimony that I don't quit before losing.
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>>170934395
Nerking PK implicates a major hit to her, that would be the wrong move. Of course this is the mentality on nerfs but I digress.
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>>170943815
>wallsplat
>bonk
>wallsplat
>bonk
>wallsplat
>bonk
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>>170943904
2big for 4chan but probably my favorite bullying webm https://my.mixtape.moe/woqpab.webm
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>>170943662
And it's fucking nonsense to have him be near fucking unstoppable in 4v4. And he's not worthless in duels/brawls because he can throw you against a wall for a free bear hug
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>>170943904
Is the long arm guaranteed after a shove?
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>>170928270
WAH THIS GAME IS TOO EASY PK IS TOO EASY I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO PLAY LET ALONE KEEP POSTING IN THE GENERAL FOR A GAME I CLAIM TO NOT PLAY ANYMORE
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>>170944069
She NEEDS a major hit. It's currently braindead easy to win every fight with a peacekeeper duel or otherwise.
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>>170939235
>>170939751
>>170938808
>>170937285
>>170943019
Upboat my fellow /v/ user !
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>mfw everyone says poleaxe
>mfw it's actually called a pollaxe, referring to the prefix poll-, meaning head
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>>170944098

Combine that with Long Arm and the sheer potential for crowd control is amazing.
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>>170944174
no
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>>170943863
>>170944235
thanks for bumping a dead thread of a dead game
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>>170944130
warlord's shield charge is like his only bad move idk why you'd ever use it
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>>170944306
why is it so frequently used after landing a shove then?
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>>170944236

I hate how the hammer part of the axe has no use in any execution or heavy attack.
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>>170943904
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>>170944370
because scrubs dont know how to dodge it
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>>170944386
Yes it does, you can see Law turn it in his hands all the time. A lot of his chains swap the axe head for the hammer at different hits, and his default execution where he smashes their back uses the backside of the hammer to hit their head.
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>>170944386
I mean, we have impale, so eh?
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>>170944402
that entire thing was fake
t. conq
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>>170944236
damn it's even more VERSATILE than we thought
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>>170944386
top heavy is a hit from the hammer, that's why it dazes your target
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>>170944370
to shit on scrubs, like when I get a scrub into a corner and start heavy bash spamming him to death.
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>>170944174
shove has no guarantees.
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>>170944386
it's used in backbreaker kinda
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>>170944674
Why do people shove so much, then?
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>>170944386
He uses the hammer part a lot in his heavies.
Speaking of things like that though, isn't it weird that Raider is (I think) the only hero without any beheading execution when he uses a god damn Dane axe?
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Calling out Roach/PK/Zerk mains, the side dash attacks they do count as a heavy or light ?
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>>170944231
No, she just needs her strings to be slightly slower and get more of a stamina hit on combos or dodging as part of an attack string. A character that can poison shouldn't also have unreactable speed and good defense options. Nobushi counters her speed and poison because if you parry her once, she dies. Not so for PK, so she should be a bit slower to balance her differences with the Nobu.
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>>170944624
Better than any LB webm
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>>170944895
law's doesnt have one, neither does shugoki iirc
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>>170944881

To vamp your stamina down.
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>>170944920
>parry nobu
>she dies
Nobu's are actually crazy safe on parry.
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>>170944896
What button do you press when side attacking, anon?
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>>170944896
Depends on the character. Kensei, Berserker and Orochi's side-dash attacks are light, while Peacekeeper's side-dash attacks are heavy.

Nobushi can use both.
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>>170944624
>"PeacekeeperAndRevengeAreFairAndBalanced.webm"
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Needs more kensei mind games webm
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>>170944617
Mean while conq might as well have a sword and scutum if it weren't for his heavy charge and zone attack.
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>>170944920
The big problem with PK is also her mobility, and how stamina works in general.
If for exemple you couldn't dash/sprint while exhausted, Peacekeeper would already present a lot less problems.
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>win match
>game crashes just before the reward screen
I'm not even mad at this point, just disappointed in every regard.
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>>170944881
To try to piss off the target enough to choke on the next move.

I like to use it instead of my light in judge, jury, executioner.
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>>170931084
Full keyboard > controller >>> mouse and keyboard
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>>170944896
>roach
Light
>Zerk
Light
>PK
Heavy. Yes. she can get executes off of her dodge.
>>170945083
Just removing the ability to dodge BACKWARDS would be enough so a peacekeeper couldn't just disengage and play it safe for eons.
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>>170945037
Alright so that explain why i couldn't ad mortem after parrying PK side dash attack
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How do you fix Lawperson?
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Zerk vs. someone who can reliably parry your side heavies. How?
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>>170944895
Were Dane Axes really known for decapitations though? I thought they specialized in breaking open chain mail and hacking off limbs with deep gouges.
Like I'm sure it could be done, but I thought swords were much more suited to clean dismemberment than Axes.
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>Playing my rep 2 Warlord in dominion for a challenge to level him up
>Go up against a rep 11 Warden with 108 armor
>Parry his attacks and we trade plenty of hits
>Get him low health and he starts running away just to turn back and zone at me
>He runs out of stamina and I charge him, knock his ass down
>Finally going to kill this faggot
>Hit him with a heavy, he has the tiniest sliver of health left
>He gets revenge and one shots me
>GOOD FIGHT GOOD FIGHT GOOD FIGHT
Revenge gear fucking infuriates me so god damn much. I clearly outskilled that Warden, but because he's a higher rep he gets a handicap with revenge gear. There's no fucking way the devs even playtested this shit.
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>orochis bitching about honor in elims when they are losing
>later on in the match they all get their feats and proceed to use all their ranged projectiles in every duel
>one even kills me with just using 3 feats

hmm
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>>170945271
Become raider, feint everything.
EVERYTHING.
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>>170945203
Make them a batter tank then the fat man in wooden armor?
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>>170945104
averagepeacekeeper.jpg
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>>170945104
awwwwwww, fuck.
Like why didnt he just stop? take a shit and continue?
rep means more pride
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>>170945273
Swords don't have the frontal weight to be super effective for chipping off limbs and shit with ease. There's a reason executioner's swords are massive and untapered.
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You're really surprised?
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>>170945325
But Lawbringer is not a Heavy, he's a Hybrid. He's -supposed- to be worse at being a tank than the tank-specialists.
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>>170945273
It's a lot more believable than Orochi decapitating everyone left and right.
And it's the other way around, axes are lot more effective at "clean" dismemberment than swords, there's a reason we used them at the chopping block, Anon.
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>>170943064
>tfw totap rep almost 12 but my highest characters are rep2
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>>170945203
>faster guard change
>superior block on heavies
>side heavies can't be dodged through.
>reduced recovery on long arm
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>>170945285
>he zones at you
>you don't block and guardbreak him for a free overhead heavy
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>>170945271
As a Warden trans Berserker main, start using lights to chip away at them without combo'ing. Throw in random bullshit to keep them on their toes. You can feint and soft feint almost anything, so just keep the pressure up without falling into any sort of readable pattern. The enemy can't read you if you can't read you.

Really all you got to open people up is unpredictability. If they have the reaction time to fuck you even when you're doing as much nonsense as possible, you're pretty much out of options outside of normal defensive cancer.
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>>170945315
>>170945450
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>>170945273
An axe is infinitely better at decapitation than a sword due to weight distribution.
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>>170944174
>is __________ guaranteed after shove
no it's just easy to land if they're mashing X to tech, the only thing that's "guaranteed" is the crappy one-frame-link unlock light

if you pause a moment beforehand you'll sometimes catch dodges but there's no reason to use long arm instead of a grab if they're gonna dodge, refer to >>170938751
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Welp, I just lost a game but it brightened up my day. Had a rematch with some Warden, a bit laggy since he teleported into a few throws, but otherwise the usual with shoulder into throw mixed with zone attack, I fucked up my reads and lost. But I got one round in that I won and that really made him salty, went into taunting etc. Send him a message asking if he's salty about just one loss and of course he told me to fuck off.

On a completely related note, how to you deal with the shoulder bash/shoulder cancel into a throw mix up fellow Laws ? Top light to interrupt the throw when you read them ?
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>>170945285
>one shots

Revenge gear is retarded but you're spouting hyperbole, this is maxed Revenge Attack and regular Attack on a top heavy against a 108 gearscore Assassin likely with minimized Defense. A Warlord would have more health left after the first hit.
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Soon my Law-brethren, I shall be ready to don my silver armor of JUSTICE

Should I get wind effects to complement it?
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>>170945809
>not being a knight of the sun
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>>170945809
Black Iron or go home
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>>170945908
ey yo suns gay as shit mang
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>>170945908
Gold and yellow are such a meme "highend" color, personally copper black and silver are way cooler
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>>170945417
Depends on the sword.

Nepal is all about chopping.

I've seen their cow decapitation ceremonies first hand.
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>tfw want to learn Conqueror but just don't understand it
How do I get this to work I normally play Lawbringer and Kensei but this shit is just on a different level.
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>>170943064
I don't even know how you get rep.

I should be higher reputation then I am but only have managed rep 1
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>>170946153
You heavy and then you shoulder bash, to open people up you shoulderbash, any time you aren't either using heavy or using shoulder bash you are wasting time. Also your defensive options are better than warlords but your options off of defense are massively inferior.
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>>170945783
You still shouldn't be able to build revenge in a 1v1, and I get how the game does it, if there are other people in the area and their not participating then you build revenge as if you're fighting how ever many people are there, I'm ok with that, but being able to pop revenge when all his teammates are on the other side of the map, or all my teammates even, is horse shit.
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>>170945809
After getting all the materials, i ended up sticking to silver. Nice.
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>>170945541
The zone caught me off guard.
>>170945783
I'm not though, I already had low health from the fight, about a little over third health and he got revenge and one shotted me
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>>170946232
>You heavy and then you shoulder bash
I do that once then they dodge unless they have shit positioning and I slam them into a wall. I want non meme answers you fuck.
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>>170946289
It's not a "one shot" if you're not at full health.
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>>170946054
I understand why they're made this way, but I think these swords would be really beautiful if the blade was straight.
You know, a "simple" kind of beautiful.
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Yo why the fuck have I been lagging and getting framedrops since the last two patches?
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>>170946012
If I see a black iron knight I imagine he's either a narutard (probably with a ping pong paddle) or some kind of metal degenerate. In both cases he's an edgemaster.
The only okay tints are between iron and silver (included). I wish there was some mithril/slightly blue or teal metal color to go well with the warmer color schemes available.
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>>170945417
>>170945468
>>170945591
Oh right, that makes a lot more sense. I should've known that.
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>>170946390
He one shotted the rest of my health. I'm not saying he one shotted my entire bar, he one shotted me after he got revenge.

Though even if I had full health a Warden with max attack and revenge attack could two shot me with heavies, which is just fucking ridiculous
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>>170946153
I have no idea what I'm going so I can't help you. But I do seem to win a ton just by sidestepping chargers and going into a power swing. You don't need full charge on it, just a little will do for a sizable hit.
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>>170946054
A kukri is closer to a machete than a sword. Basically an axe in function.
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>>170925985
screen shot and report their scores at the end of the match
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WHERE ARE THE PLUMES?
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>>170946591
Centurion will have a monopoly on those. And Hoplite if we ever get one.
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>>170942150
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Anyone else think materials for vikings are just different color leather straps?
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Orders VS AI are retarded.
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>>170946720
That's exactly what they are Anon.
Vikings do not use any metal armor save for chainmail on certain character, and it depend on which armor they have equipped.
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>>170940163
beause 2v2 is funner and less tryhard
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>>170946317
That's your lot. You can also pseudofeint by throwing yourself into full guard.
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>>170946720
It's exactly what it is. Just like how the Samurai one is just different colored wood.
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>>170946720
No one will dispute this because thats what it is.
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>>170946317
dodge bash to position them if you can, block bash into wall if you think you can get it, though I think GB into a wall is better imo, you can get a light off of your heavy bash or block bash if it hits and there is no wall to splat them, you can't feint, but unless you have a corner to grease spot people into, I would suggest parrying or superior block into heavy if you can.
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>>170944674
You're guaranteed to land a guardbreak after a shove. The opponent can still break out of course.
>>170944370
Mainly for mind games with guardbreak being the other option but also stamina degradation, free light attack if it lands.

If you land a shove you have a guaranteed grab that will track dodging opponents but they can still get out of it. On the other hand the long arm can be dodged but can't be broken out of. So you're forcing mind games and hope that the enemy reads you wrong.
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The new ornament on the Zerker looks fucking awesome, I wish some of the other ones looked half as cool.
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>>170943431
doesnt need it. just feint
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>>170946997
It's kind of funny how that worked out, most of the others are big and doofy and way too out of whack, but zerker's is like oh you put a big ass beast skull on your head? Sure rock on my man.
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>>170946823
You mean easy exp.
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>Middle of a good elimination match
>One person leaves
>Game doesn't even attempt to find a new host, just immediately crashes
This shit and the overpowered gear is why the game is dying
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>>170946997
>>170947141
>>170947141
The new conq ornament sits well on the kettle helms, that's the most positive thing I can say about it.
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I'm starting to get burnt out/bored of this game.

What do?
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valk is so fun holy shit
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Anyone here use a controller with paddles? How is it? I'm guessing the advantage is huge because you don't have to move your right thumb between stick and buttons. Especially playing as a fast character, feinting and redirecting the attack before they can. There's been a few times I've slammed the X button and also press start.
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>>170946684
More then likely the Cent will just get a commanders plume and a general's plume, a tail plume, and then spikes and hood ornaments like everyone else in the knight faction.

What I really want to come with the centurion however is Roman style Heroic armor drops for everyone in the knight faction so I can dress my lawman like a Gladiator.

Give PK a Dimachaerus look, the Conq gets Murmillo, make the Warden a shieldless Thraex and the Law can be the Retiarius.
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>>170947402
Stop spamming this game
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>>170946481
>he one-shotted my entire one bar of health, what the FUCK!
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>>170947402
Take a break.
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Did they stealth buff nobushi? I can't react to her lights for some reason when I always could.
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>>170947406
How's the flavor of the month taste?
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>>170947427
just use a m+kb
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>>170923631
im pretty disgusted by this webm

god i hate warden
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>>170947687
>disgusted
>nothing but fundamentals, no cheese whatsoever
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>>170947649
pretty amazing, I love shitting on special snowflake retards who play bottom tier characters
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>>170947687
You ain't seen nothing yet. Same match same guy.
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>>170947687
>t. Roachie
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>>170947753
that orochi is sidestepping out of sheer vortex fear

and all i see is that warden abusing that
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>>170947687
>Orochi attacks Warden from top
He deserved it.
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is nobushi cancer?

this guy has done this to me twice now
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>>170945809

I've already gotten my silver armor, but I'm saving up for a new, hopefully less ridiculous effect. Or they release the lightning one and I'll use that because God's wrath striking down my foes is a glorious mental image.
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>>170947512
>>170947541
Let me just get Law to rep 5
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>>170947925
If they actually fight, they're fine, if it's typical bleed & run shit, then yes.
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>>170947868
>its the warden's fault the orochi is a shitter

Kek
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>>170947868
And if he backrolled out of sheer vortex fear they would both be back to neutral. Orochi can shut down the vortex from a 3 way guess to a 2 way guess this guy is just fucking up every time.
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Trying to find a main knight, any advice ? I started with the Warden, long swords being cool and all and making me feel like a hero. But after some time it feels just too basic, a bit bland, should charge to zone and so on.

Then I went to the Lawbringer, but it feels a bit too passive for me. I quickly run out of stamina when I go on the offensive to deal only like half of the Warden damage but I liked that he required some technique and thinking. I guess it's a more advanced class and I'm just a casual player playing from time to time.

So I went to the Peacekeeper. The opposite of the Lawbringer, I could be aggressive and deal plenty of damage. I'm even getting good at the dodge into attacks and stab move. Kinda not my style to play as some small waif character and I kinda miss the technicality of the Lawbringer but don't want to go back to his crap stamina and damage.

So now I'm at the Conqueror and I'm not sure about him. I like that he has a faster block than the supposedly defensive Lawbringer while having some ok damage, but what is there to him ? The charged attack is very predicable and the only way to cancel it to dodge of full guard meaning no feinting into a quick attack. What's his thing ? How technical is he ?
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>>170947952
>Ridiculous effect

Flaming weapons my good man of the law.
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>>170947925
Solidly mid-tier.

But Raider is solidly bottom-tier, so from his perspective she's cancer.
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Be honest, are you enjoying the game anymore, or are you chasing steel and cosmetics?
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>>170947907
top lights are fine.

a good orochi mixes up his zone, storm rush, top light, gb, and top heavy feint
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>>170948079

I'm surprised weapon effects aren't a thing, to be honest. A bloody blade effect where your weapon drips blood after an execution would be cool.
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>>170935557
Holding a point is boring.
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>>170948153
>Storm Rush
never
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I AM THE SUN
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>>170939007
THE BETA WAS FREE
THE NUMBERS AREN'T GOING TO BE THE SAME
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>>170948215
you can feint a storm rush to a top light
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>>170948146
Yes I do
now fuck off back to /v/ you nigger faggot
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>>170948216
>no sun engraving
>the worse of the two sun symbols
>no golden flail head to symbolize the golden sun and its rays

You can become more incandescent.
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>>170947402
Jump shit to another ded game.
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Why is gear level bullshit and ganking isn't? Both are viable strategies in game, right?
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>Just went against an Orochi that wouldn't do anything but block and parry
>All that to build revenge
>He literally wouldn't do ANYTHING unless I attacked

I just don't know what I could've done against that as a fresh Lawman.
I just don't.
The worse feeling is I just know I'd have kicked his ass if I was on my raider.
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>>170947402
Play LAWBRINGER for the ultimate challenge!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBIjkAKgVb4
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>>170948380
Gear incentivizes grinding and only playing 1 character. It has no place in a supposedly competitive game
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>>170948337
Hey, I made that.

Hey, I should go back and play Titanfall again. How's Live Fire?
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>>170948442
Raider can't do shit to open guards either.
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>>170947535
>Taking half of someones health in one heavy thanks to revenge gear is perfectly fine
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>>170948530
Raider at least can feint hard to fuck with parries. LB is dead in the water on every front.
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>>170948530
Raider can feint like a motherfucker and switch guard faster than a slug that's fresh out of cryo.
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>>170923631
What happens at the end ? It seems to skip a frame for me at the end and it goes from the roach blocking a top attack to being dead a few steps away.
>>170947907
Are you being serious ? Of course he will try top to see if it lands, roach damage is shit without his light top.
>>170947753
Not all classes have as good fundamentals as the Warden.
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>>170948576
I can take half of your health in one heavy without revenge gear, get shit on kiddo.
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>>170948442

As a fresh Lawman, nothing. Maybe not even as a skilled one. You need to find better foes to help you improve.
>>
>picked killstreak skirmish order again to see if i could actually do it this time
>as soon as match starts the game fucks up and everyone is replaced with bots
>complete skirmish order easily

t-thanks ubisoft
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>>170948054
disengaging with a roll takes about half your stamina

if that itself doesnt exhaust you then youre still at a considerable disadvantage, especially against a warden who can do a running heavy or a good-range clipping zone
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>>170948448

But that's what I've been doing

also what the fuck is that video? Delete that.
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>>170948442
Did you try feinting into a guard break ? Easier said than done, I know, but you could try that next time.
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>>170949023
Its my gameplay. 35 kills and 2 deaths on Elimination suckka
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>>170948757
Iunno, game skipped when I was playing: that's the raw footage. Nothing I can do about it.

Best guess is that he tried to parry the top light. Sometimes your opponent misses a parry and it'll look like they blocked it for a split second on your end, then the damage goes through.
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>>170948987

It's either that or hide at the edges of the map and run in to kill steal when you see a couple of your team fighting someone and then run away again.
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>>170948442
Same thing Raider is supposed to do against Shugoki

Die.
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>>170949082
Yes, I quickly realized it was my only option against someone that's so passive, but even then he wouldn't even try to parry half of those, he'd just block.
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>>170949114
You're a faggot dude.
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>>170947818
>that webm
Yeah, you must be fun to play against.
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>>170946987
>You're guaranteed to land a guardbreak after a shove. The opponent can still break out of course.

Its not guaranteed if they can tech it though.

I meant literally guaranteed.
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Oh boy, I gave my first real try to playing Kensei today and it's actually a lot of fun when you feint the living shit out of everything.

So what is some fitting music for playing him?
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>>170948885
You really can't
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>>170949235
>winning makes you gay
alright bruv
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>>170947818

>Warden can shoulder bash you, get a couple lights
>Can cancel shoulder bash into a guardbreak that will track you if you do anything but roll directly backward (wasting half of your stamina)
>Can cancel the shoulder bash fast enough to parry lights

I guess I'm gonna main Warden until the nerf.
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>>170923631
*walks away*
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>>170949419
You're cancer. You know nobody here likes you or thinks anything you do is worthy of praise.

Just fuck off.
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>>170949416
>You really can't
Wanna 1v1 me right now?
What are you going to cough up when I do half your HP in one hit?
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>>170949359
If you grab them 100% of the time after a shove then yes, it's a guaranteed guardbreak. The follow up on the other hand is not since they can break out.
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>>170949419
You lost in that video though
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>>170949564
>inb4 Shugoki
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Shugoki shouldn't heal

I'm cool with the guaranteed grab, but it should not heal and it DEFINITELY should not instant kill.
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>>170949557
>/fhg/ is one person, namely me. I'm a Lawbringer Main and I don't like you
Hahaha like a give a fuck
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>>170949636
yeah Ubisoft needs to balance Res speed/interrupt on executions its pretty broken.
A better tactic for them to win a 4v1 is to just run away from me (which they did in the second round)
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>>170949564
>Dude unparryables are the same thing as regular heavies
>>
>conq drains himself of all his stamina by spamming his shield bash and attack combo
>backs away and goes on the defensive
>i turn and run to the health pickup
>also manage to grab the armor pickup before he catches up
>bitches me out in chat

no one to blame but himself desu, i was playing the third slowest character in the game also
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>>170949632
That's means it isn't guaranteed you fucking retard. Guaranteed means you can do it successfully.

Using your definition, every attack is guaranteed if you are close enough. After all, it's going to be in range of them. They can still block it or parry it though.

See how retarded that sounds?
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>>170949640
Not Shoegoker
>>170949802
Not unparryable :^)
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>>170949647

It's one of the most telegraphed moves in the game and it doesn't instakill unless he is 1 light away from dying.

So if you get him down to 1 hit and he waits too long before doing it, he'll go back to the top of his last bar and not be able to instakill.

And alright, if it shouldn't heal him then it shouldn't cost him any health if he whiffs it, either.
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>>170949304
I usually consider myself a pretty fun opponent. Don't really vortex that often: I have more fun parrying and feinting the charge as a bait than actually using it. Besides, Warden doesn't really need the cheesy shit to be usable.


>>170949465
Yeah, it's a bad habit. I just sorta aimlessly walk around after duels while doing shit on my computer. Don't really think about how edgy I must look.
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>>170949870
Fucking saved
He just hit Revenge too gawd damn!
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What the fuck, why didn't you fags tell me how much fun the LB is.
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>>170949870
I'm gonna have to try this
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>>170949647
it only instant kills when he has under 1 bar of HP

dont be near a wall and he can never land it
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>>170949870
EXPLODING_KNEES.webm
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>>170949647

>Has a problem with Shugoki healing
>Seems to have no problem at all with him losing more health than he heals if he misses the easily avoidable grab
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>>170949457
PK Shits on wardens, esp vortext wardens
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>>170949647
throwing someone against a wall is not a guaranteed grab

it's only guaranteed if the throw was performed about 2 quicksteps away from the wall
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>>170949980
That's fine, I don't think it should cost health in the first place.

It's "telegraphed" when he does it from neutral, but you're forgetting that anywhere near a wall it's guaranteed from a parry or GB

>>170950094
>don't be near a wall
>on a map that is only walls
ok, nice "just don't get hit" tier advice
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>Playing elimination
>Everyone on my team dies but a Orochi
>He's running away from the enemies
>Okay, guess he's getting buffs before putting up a fight
>He's not getting a single buff, just running to run
>Entire enemy team still alive so we'd lose even if he survived the whole time
I quit that match, I'm not gonna wait two fucking minutes of watching an Orochi run, especially if he ends up doing the same the next rounds
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>>170949980
A good shugoki never uses it out of neutral, only when the opponent is walled for FREE HEALTH
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>>170950163
No, I play him and it works on every wall throw as long as you time it correctly.
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>>170949870
THE
SPARK
OF
GODS
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>>170950117
PK shits on everyone except Conq and Warlord, and even then only very good Conqs and Warlords.
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>>170949980
>It's one of the most telegraphed moves in the game
This means absolutely nothing if you're boxed into a corner, or worse my opinion, you're fighting someone else and he grabs you when you can't dodge, giving his teammate a free kill
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>>170948521
Another mode with no titans, whoopie...

One map is like a smaller Complex though, grenadier heaven.
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>>170950310

And if they aren't out of stamina, because then they just fall down and you miss it.

I've raged so many times over this.
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>>170949557
Or maybe you're a Warden?
Too bad we aren't fighting in game, or I could record you bitching in chat and quitting
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>>170949870
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>>170949870
Did he die ??
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>>170950386
No, you're just an idiot.

You can tell which is going to happen as you throw them, the knockdown does the same amount if not more than the grab minus the healing and instant kill.
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Seeking a Peacekeeper duel partner on PS4. I want to practice my parries as Lawbringer and I would like someone to talk to as I do so.
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>>170950393
>i main the baby class
>everyone else is just bad
The top PK in EU was just beaten soundly by a newbie PK, the class is THAT easy.
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>>170949889
It sounds as retarded as you must be because if an attack can be blocked it's not guaranteed. On the other hand the guardbreak after a shove lands 100% of the time, meaning it's guaranteed. What happens after it, be it an attack or a shove is not but that's not the fucking guardbreak anymore you fruit, it's a follow up.
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>>170950385
>Grenadier heaven

[SWEATS PROFUSELY]
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>switch fomr PK to woman with a stick
>guard switching takes 30 years and some change
SHE'S FUN AND I LOVE HER BUT FUCK I NEED MY MIXUPS
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>>170949870
LEGENDARY
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>>170950393
>mains peacekeeper and thinks he's good
>thinks his opinion actually matters
>>
Are there any For Honor streamers worth watching aside from Petemoo?
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>>170950770
>switch from the simplest character to one of the more complex
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>>170950310
I've tried performing the attack right after throwing someone against a wall and plenty of times they've had the time to sidestep.

Are you sure the people you're playing with aren't just reacting slowly? I'd really love to add this move to my kit, but it simply doesn't seem to connect.

>>170950386
If they're out of stamina, you can get a certain hug actually. url related

https://a.pomfe.co/bfxexol.webm
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>>170950570
>PK can beat PK
>I can't beat PK
>PK must be OP
Sounds legit
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>>170950770
there are two stick women anon, be more specific
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>>170950838
That was more or less the motivation. As much as I love PK because of feint into R1, I was kind of tired of being stigmatized. I'll probably come back to her after her inevitable nerf.
>>170950881
Yes but one of them can switch guards reactively
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>>170950881
The one who doesn't shave her pubic hair.
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>>170950860
>fag doesn't even know the meta but pretends his class isn't regarded as overpowered
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>>170949657

see

>>170950570
>>170950602

Ignorant, idiotic faggot. You're deluded if you think anybody here thinks you or your webms of cancerkeeper are noteworthy. It takes a special kind of brain damage for someone to main PK and deny how broken she is, thanks for the confirmation.
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>>170950859
the window gets tighter the closer you are to the wall
>>
Your thread is breaking time to migrate
>>170926229
>>170926229
>>170926229

>>170950951
>I liked PK but the bullies got to me
Chin up lil guy they can't hurt you
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>>170951218
Don't worry, the nerf train can and I'm hoping for an overnerf.
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>>170950770
Use hidden stance to feint an attack into another attack.

utilize her kick

she has tons of mixup potential. Unique playstyle, pretty nice moveset. Somewhat similar to berserker in the amount of unique tools available, but not hot dog shit.
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>>170951150
>pretend to agree with the Lawbreaker main and Talks about brain damage
>Links to an unrelated conversion in which he talks about Lawbringer because he is the same Lawbringer main I was making fun of
What a moron
>>
>>170951210
Are there queues you can look for to get the correct timing or do you always use the attack immediately after a throw?
>>
>people play this with full KB instead of using a mouse
...how?
>>
>>170951613
cues*
>>
>>170927668
As an lb main I sincerely hope you all kys
>>
>>170950991
So Valkyrie?
>>
>>170949383
Shiroyama by Sabaton, Hands-On Zone from Super Mario 3D World
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>>170951460
i just misquoted actually

you're still a faggot loser
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>>170951994
No-bush-i
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>>170952416
>DOESN'T shave
>no-bush

??????????
>>
>>170952395
And you are losing so much in a game that it is actually making you mad
>>
>>170952416
NO-BUSH-i. She shaves.
>>
>>170952486
>>170952528
Fuck
>>
FUCKING JEWBISOFT SETTING THE ROUND END BACK 12 HOURS AND THEN RIGGING IT SO THE VIKINGS LOSE

I WANT TO WIN, DAMN IT. DON'T RUIN THIS FOR ME TOO
>>
>>170952617
I'm sure she has a nice pussy all the same.
>>
>>170952617
I also sometimes play best girl. She's good fun and generates a surprising amount of salt despite not being that good.

People asked a couple threads ago for a writefag to make something about a Nobushi siding with the vikings. Someone make this, please.
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>>170949647
The healing is probably an off-set of taking more damage when his armor is off.
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anons, please give me some motivation to keep striving to get better despite losing every god damn time. This is getting absolutely tiring.
>>
>>170953137
The satisfaction. It always feels good to me to feel and see yourself improve at a fighting game over time.
>>
>>170952961
this, and the fact that he loses like 2 bars of health should he miss (which is always when he doesnt toss them at a wall or hit from blind side)
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>>170953480
Doesn't that backfire when you don't see any improvement at all? Because that's what I'm seeing right now
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>>170953137
play duels and don't leave if your enemy wants to have another round
>>
>>170953856
unless youve one-sidedly creamed him 3 games in a row
>>
I'm getting kinda burned out of this game, what hero/mode do you guys recommend for maximum FUN?
>>
>>170953853
It could have something to do with who you play, in all honesty. Characters like Orochi hold people back a surprising amount. Care to post your character screen?

>>170954028
Brawl, IMHO
>>
Is there some second flicker bug with conquerors? I just fought one who would charge their attack, and whenever they'd release it, their guard indicator would flicker a few different directions before the final one where the hit was coming from, which made it really difficult to react and select the correct guard.
>>
>>170953856
Isn't that like giving them the satisfaction of "Oh yes, please hit me more"? Is not like I want to play to have others laugh at me...
>>170954127
I usually play Kensei, what does my character matter, though? I'm only rank one, but I'd still like to win sometime agains't someone who's not a total newbie :/
>>
>>170953853
>That pic
This reads like something out of a Douglas Adams book.
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>>170954535
The only way to improve is to fight people equal to or greater than yourself. As for your character, Kensei is fine. He's all about the fundamentals, so just continue practicing them.
>>
>>170954532
clips.twitch[/spoiler].tv / CleanTenuousMomCoolCat
This one? I experienced this shit the first time today in a dominion match. Exact same thing you see in the clip.
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>>170955287
But it's no use. I'm always losing. Literally. 100% lose rate.

Despite everything, I'm doing all the Kensei can do; grabs, sidesteps attacks, range attacks, counters, and yet I don't seem to be able to win. I don't want to call bullshit on the game, but I'm honestly starting to regret spending the money.
>>
>>170955720
>clips.twitch[/spoiler].tv / CleanTenuousMomCoolCat


Yeah, almost exactly like that. Between the guard display and the animation cancelling it was almost impossible to tell where a swing was coming from.

Fucking scummy shit.
>>
>>170955921
In all honesty, try Warlord. He's got an abundance of options and can also seriously help with your fundamentals.
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>>170955921
Are you parrying?
>>
>>170954028
Sure you do
>>>/v/
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>>170956476
I'm just looking for different alternatives than I'm currently using to try and freshen the gameplay, you cynical bastard.

I decided to try LB.
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>>170956612
As much as I hate to say it, Warlord is fun. Maybe that's just because I'm defensive in fighting games, but that's just me
>>
>>170956868
It's okay anon, he is fun.
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>>170938123
PK can do a light attack that does bleed damage if she gets a deflect.
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I'm so fucking tired of this revenge bullshit
1v1 turned upside down instantly because some faggot has better gear

If there's one reason for this game dying, it's this
>>
>>170956410
Yes.
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>>170957258
they don't even need to deflect, just hit their dodge attack and it gets a free bleed light attack
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>>170957494
>game is dying
But it's not ?
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>>170953137
>>170953480
>>170953853
>>170953856
>>170954127
>>170954535
>>170955287
>>170955921
>>170956339
>>170956410
I give up. Last few matches I couldn't even do anything. Will be uninstalling this thing and reminding myself to never spend a dime on some PvP based game ever again, as it seems I'm useless at every one of them.
>>
>>170959030
why not find someone here to practice with, someone who can adjust their playstyle to make it easier to chew?
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>>170959030
Try playing the story mode, after that you'll be a master of parrying
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>>170959030
Don't do this, man. I believe in you; I'm probably the shittiest fighting game player I know in terms of raw talent, but if I can pull off Strider combos in UMvC3 with enough practice, you'll be a great player in For Honor with enough practice.
>>
>>170959584
>>170959824
why bother when the game has shit balance as it is? won't be worth the effort
>>
>>170959584
>>170959684
>>170959824
I've been losing every god damn game the past 2 nights even when I was mentally positive. No going around it, I simply suck and can't learn.
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>>170960121
Then don't learn. Feel. It's hard to explain it, but in games like this, there isn't really "learning" how to be good. You eventually feel out what your opponent can do by fighting the character frequently enough and, by extention, what your opponent will do by fighting the player frequently enough. All it takes is you going out and trying. Take a break for a while and come back after thinking things over. If in the end you really don't want to play, don't.
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>>170960121
I literally thought the exact same, until I played story
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