/twg/ - Total War General

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Confess your Total War sins

Worship Khorne

>>170904996
I confess.
I have corner camped in campaign when facing much more numerous foes.

>>170904915
>>170904996

>Attila models look better

Bravo CA

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Fuck Saxons

I saw a vision of Gilles le Breton. He told me you were a faggot.

>>170904996
Every time I see the hammer/anvil army compositions people post in this thread with their anvil being 3-4 melee squads large, them having 5 ranged squads, 2 arty squads and the rest being cavalry, I secretly weep that I couldn't be casual enough to play on difficulties where 3 squads of infantry is enough to hold back 15.

fucking normal battle difficulty shitters not having a care in the world about anything and thinking they're good, how do they manage to convince themselves that this is acceptable, I want to know how to do this myself

The dilapidated hellhole that is Kislev, and their inevitable destruction by superior Norsca

>>170904996
I've been playing since S1 but I seldom finish a campaign

I rarely play at higher difficulties because I'm mostly into it for RP and enjoying the battles

I now hate M2 because of burnout and all the wankers that shitposted about it here

I like to troll said shitposters with retarded arguments to see if my predictions of their answers are correct

I like pretty much all TW games but I like other games too

>>170905116
we've all been there anon, but there comes a time to grow and git gudder. there are other ways to beat the odds, that feel better.

>>170905313
I chuckled, then I just felt pity for you.

>>170905368
that last one isn't even a sin, but you should kill yourself for actually pretending to be retarded.

>>170905368
>I like pretty much all TW games
the greatest sin of them all

>>170904996
I used to savescum shamelessly.

I've only ever played Attila and Warhams. Tried getting into Shogun 2 a long time ago, but my old PC would just melt down.

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>didn't even get a cool cinematic

lame

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There's a Gobbo Atilla the Hun called Gitilla Da Hunter, leads a band of gobbo wolffuckers:
http://warhammerfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Gitilla_da_Hunter

8th edition too, with special character rules in armybook.

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>>170905894

Gitilla the true Everchosen DLC when?

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Stop being so fucking stubborn.

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I want to be dominated by a best elf!

>>170904915
Anyone's dad works at CA here? I need news

>>170904996
I got the "complete a legendary campaign" achivement with a heavily modded game that was much easier than vanilla.

>>170907042
My mum works at Games Workshop, she has confirmed we'll get a special Easter gift :)

>>170907042
Old Friend is Krell+Kemmler rework that puts them in Mousillon.
The final dlc is Bretonnia vs Vampire Cunts rivalry pack.
New World preorder bonus is a Vampire subfaction in the New World with some new pirate-themed units.

>>170907042

warhammer 2 will be set in the age of sigmar universe

skaven and lizardmen are cancelled for now, elves will be one big faction

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First for perfect strategy

>>170907550
f1+f3/10

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>>170904996
I have spent over a thousand cumulative hours on these games but since R2 have lost all interest and look at Creative Assembly the same way people look at Bioware or EA.

This is the first time I've opened the general in over a year and have spent countless days posting my EB and ETW campaigns here. I miss seeing IGDood. I miss seeing so many happy anons posting their stories of battle.

But TW is really goddamn old now. I've played it enough that I'm seeing the cogs move behind the scenes. I'm bored of it and since R2 they've pumped out pure shit. Attila was slightly less stinky but it was still shit and I haven't even bothered with WH.

Here's a nice vintage OP image from old times.

>>170906676
>>170907042
Gobbo Horde DLC
>Includes two LLs
>Gitilla leading wolf fucker horde
>Snagla Grobspit leading forest goblin spider horde
>Adds snotlings, pumpwagon, and spear chukka
$14.99

Is night goblin archers or orc boyz archers preferable with steel faith overhaul?


>>170906712
Why would you use skeleton warriors when you have terrorgheists and blood knights? Surely it would be better to use only grave guard or possible zombies as fodder to hole the line?

>>170907694
I don't know you, but you are my brother.

>>170907281
>>170907350
>>170907410
>>170907771
Sounds good
I'm getting excited

>>170905894
>the when no Gobbo wolf rider bf

>>170907042
Old friend this month and next last free dlc in april, no more paid dlc for warhammer 1

Warhammer 2 announced in may and released i dunno when

This is actually true

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>Be playing as Vlad
>Hit level 8
>It tells me to control Essen
>It's already owned by someone else
>It gets rid of the quest instantly
>Just capture it now
>Don't get quest back

So I'll just never get Vlad's unique sword? What the fuck?

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>>170907873
Thanks!

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Am I autistic?

>>170907831
Because I haven't been able to raise good enough infrastructure for graveguards and crypt horrors anywhere but Sylvania. This army was designed to siege and fuck over empire, not fight off stunted scums.

>end of battle gives me a heroic victory
>return to the campaign map and it's now a close victory

what the fuck

>>170904996
I...
am a Campaign map whore and still think Medieval 2 is the most immersive thanks to the internal trade system that scales to province wealth so the map looks alive however Rome 2 and Attila's city/region real time map change for cities that scales to culture and historical city limits was fantastic and I hope the next historical game does it aswell Warhammer with he first one would make me so happy. Lorewise I understand why they didn't do the second.

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>>170908028
if you are, what does that make me?

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>>170904996
I enjoy Empire: TW and is my second most played behind Medieval 2

>its another thread full of outlandish dlc ideas

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Quick, to come in under budget you have to choose one 7th/8th ed. meme unit for CA not to bother including in your favourite army. I'll start:
>Bloodwreck Medusa

>>170907981
Warhams 2 is more likely to be announced at E3 DESU, with a release near the end of the year.

Why will the AI pay me 5000 for peace, but not trade with me?

>>170908223
The only sin here is they never made ETW2

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>>170907042
Some anon posted a synopsis of an upcoming teaser trailer for the expansion a few generals back going into detail about exactly what it will look like and how it cockteases you into thinking its a historical game until dinosaurs come charging out the jungle.

An anon screencapped it in case its true.. Anon if you are here and have it. Please post it.

Why are ambush maps so fucking gigantic in TWW?

>>170908359
strategic reasons. irl merchants were always, always spies, without fail. whether they were doing it for the cause, for pay, or were simply coerced before/after they got back.

>>170908459
it was bullshit, like every other idea guy's and CA employee's son/dad's in this thread.

screencap THIS post.

>>170908310
Nobody cares about E3 anymore
only some crappy overhyped console games there

>>170908830
Fair enough, I just find it really annoying that someone with 0 military power would rather be wiped off the face of the planet than trade with me.
Also pretty fucking gay that I can subjugate someone and they straight up refuse to trade.

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THE ELECTOR COUNTS, FINUBAR

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Lileath give me strenght.

beastmen with economy mod are ridiculous

>>170908459
Histcucks btfo

>>170909276

>strenght

She should give you grammar classes

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It is now March. Athel Loren grows restive, casting aside the austere serenity of Gaurach-Dúin. The boughs and brambles tremble, and through the glades and hollows the spites whisper of Spring.

The Eternal Queen, recumbent in her pleasure, awaits the attentions of her rejuvenated Consort-King. The first outriding of the cycle yields rich game, youths flush with the iridescent bloom of pox and prepubescence. Cherry blossoms flutter their brief glories across the Eternal Realm. And still more. The fey giggle of a return, a recovery of what was once lost. The sacred trustees, deputized by their Queen to carry out the vulgar realities of reign, are poised to return from the Dreaming Wood.

Sisters of Twilight Soon.

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>Tfw playing as Vlad and you get to recruit Mannfred

It took a while, but I was finally able to get my autistic son on board.

rejoice?

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>>170909808
I can't wait.

I AM FRANZ

They will obey

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>play Mannlet for the first time since getting Grim and Grave
>oh look I'll play this Strigoi thingy
>tough in melee
>regeneration
>Inv of Nehek AND Soul Leech on the same line
>summons ghouls

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>>170908459
Here it is.

>>170910207
Vlad is still by far the best lord in the game

>Tfw he and his army are unkillable because he has so much magic reserve that he can spam AoE heals the whole fight while also healing himself while his army is always rank 9 because of his overpowered talent and he also has some of the highest campaign movement

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>>170905313

worst part is they try and give advice or throw out the occasional "you can't win this?", while playing on the difficulty the devs say is the equivalent of Easy in older TW titles,

top kek

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>>170910328

>>170904996
I never finished any grand campaign. Thousand of hours in different TW titles and yet I never finished one. I drop them off as soon as I get to highest tech/economy/power rankings and basically ensure my domination till the end of times. It just turns into a slog with multiple armies in various parts of world and horde of agents.

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>Find a Dwarf stack that's half gyros, half bolt throwers sitting in a hold.
>Think it'd be fun to see how AI handles them.
>Skirmish mode the entire fight.
>Never use bombs.
>Eventually give up on chasing gyros around the map, kill things on the ground until everything routs.
>Highest kill count on any gyrocopter unit is 3 kills.
I'm not sure what I was expecting. At least Greenskins have the common decency to fight when you catch their skirmishers, but I watched Dwarfs leave people in a swarm of vargheists to keep running away. And the bolt throwers were shooting into a wall for half the fight.

>Mannfred gets abstinence trait

Not only is he autistic, but he is a virgin.

ONE OF US

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Post the Lord Pack you want next.

>The Bull and the Bitches
>Taurox
>Doomull Lord
>Ghorgon
>Jabberslythe
>Chariot pulled by minotaurs
>Chosen Gors.

>Sisters of Twilight
>Glade Captain
>Wild Riders of Kurnos
>Glade Captain
>fuck all else because they already got a good roster and are just lacking in lord department

>>170910060
>tfw surrounded him in his castle with Isabella and Vlad after taking everything else from him
>Can just imagine them shit talking him from the siege lines
>You'll always be my favorite disappointment!
>Come now, Isabella will lend you her high heels
>Meanwhile, Mannfred is slamming the curtains shut and sitting in the corner muttering "I-i'm the true von carstein, baka"

I often get a crash when giving a mount to certain Lords.

Anyone else?

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>>170909747
kys lumberfoots

>>170910979
Dire Wolf Skeleton Riders ( Grenade Launcher )

>>170911084
Can you recruit him if you take over his lands?

I warred him and bullied him down to just castle drakenhof, and he accepted my confederation.

I figured it wasn't worth killing my only son, even if he does have autism.

>>170910979
The Brave and the Mad
>Kurt Helborg and Marius Leitdorf

>>170911168
>Skeletons with Grenade Launchers
RADICAL

>>170910825
The only impressive use of gyros I saw in first quest battle for Dawi, where you fight gobbos in tunnel. It always goes like this:

>Your warrios are locked in combat with goblins
>"Ey, cavalry is here mate"
>Bomber proceeds to your frontlines
>NO
>They drop bomb and tear through gobbos and your warriors
>over 100+ kills
>your frontline losses over 40% of manpower
>in battle where you actually would lose like 10-15 Dawi at worst

>>170911168
Black orc crossbowmen demigryph riders (halberd)

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>>170911168

>>170910979
Naestra and Arahan for wood elves as a free third legendary.

>>170911208
Isn't Marius dead by the time this game takes place?

>>170911805

>Isn't Marius dead by the time this game takes place?

No he isn't, the game is locked in the year Karl became emperor, at which point Marius was still alive.

Not that it matters since he's IN THE GAME RIGHT NOW AS A GENERIC EMPIRE LORD.

>>170910291
damn I missed this, thanks anon

I never get hyped for games anymore except for total warhammer shit, can't wait for lizardmen.

Any tips for The Last Roman?

>>170910979

The Meme and the Madman

Be'lakor and Marius Leitdorf

>>170911805
Marius is in the game already m8. He just doesn't have a unique model.

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>>170912176
We would have every fucking electro cunt by now if CA/GW weren't such jews with modding tools.

>>170910353
You know they're talking about campaign difficulties, right Anon?

The only thing increasing battle difficulty does is give the enemy free stats. There is no AI difference.

>>170911805
So is Vlad, your point being?

(But no, Marius isn't dead because it is the year of Karl's ascension as Emperor)

>>170904996
I auto-resolve almost everything in M2 except siege defenses because I just like to slaughter the enemy and I know 4 spear militia at the gates can murder a dozen squads.

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>>170912323

>>170912673
Somebody put those poor things out of their misery.

>>170912502
>Vlad
>Staying dead.
Azhag is also supposed to be dead, I believe.

>>170912502
It's almost like Vlad is a vampire or something.

>>170912772
Isabella too.

>>170912962
What? No.

>>170912772

Azhag was still alive

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Can the enemy AI actually win?

I'm on turn 200 of a Legendary Vlad campaign, and I've defeated the chaos and I'm beginning to mop up brettonia and such.

However, I noticed the Elves have the highest level tree. Can they just do the quest battle and win or is the AI unable to win?

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>expansion released
>play any of the races, lets say high elves
>races engage in diplomacy with you
>approached by empire "sons of sigmar, approach
>wood elves "our brethren from athel loren come to meet with us i see"
>beastmen "your filthy kind shall be wiped out beast!"
>you engage in diplomacy with other nations
>empire "the celestial college says i must listen to you"
>wood elves "your words and hearts are hollow"
>beastmen "oo ee oo ah ah ting tang walla walla bing bang"

>MFW CA would rather do generic shit with old factions instead of hire the VA for an hour

Anyone got advice on how I should be building my hordes in the last roman?

>>170913501
Ai cant win

>>170913501

No, the AI doesn't have any victory conditions. Every Total War is more or less a mini-sandbox where you get to dick around.

>>170913509
they are master jews, what did you expect

they couldnt deliver the best beastmen unit because they would have to pay a couple of guys extra for a few days

>>170908192
Is there an achivement for doing this? there really should be

>>170913501
AI wins by destroying your faction.

>>170908028

>strength rank 1-3-4-5

Who's number 2?

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>>170913910
Archaon should get the flying abortion if he razes a certain amount of land.

>>170913737
I remember in Rome 1 and Med 2 ai did have victory conditions, and can actually win game

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>>170913774

Pretty certain each DLC gets its own budget and then the art team and programmers have to make the best of it.

Odds are they will be added later as the series progresses. Every faction is bound to get extra units and new stuff is made, and there isn't all that much left to add for the lovely rapegoats.

>>170914104
Looks baller

Is it an end times only thing?

>>170908192
The End Times™

>>170914162

Now that you mention it, I do remember that as well. I guess I spoke too soon.

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hey lads so I'm entered the silly map competition. If i win I'll post a picture of the Bretonnian knight next to my actual bretonnian knight models so is ca a bad enough dude to paint better than myself? who knows.


anyway here is a map, stylised to be a level 3 unwalled settlement defence.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=882967177

I guess you could call it an evolution of the first one I made
works way better at least
also gotta note I was coincidentally working on it all night before the comp dropped. finished in good timing and with pleasant news.


night boyos.

>>170914245

It's an Age of Smegmar only thing.

In Warhammer he never rode anything but Dorghar.

>>170914245

No, Age of Shitmar.

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>>170914245
>looks baller
It's a end times/shitmar thing.

>>170912214
Don't be a cuck
watch out for the moors

>>170914478
>>170914493
>>170914539
Why does AoS have the coolest units and why do people hate it

>>170914617
Because you're in love with spess muhreens.

whats the hardest quest battle?

>>170914162
Attila as well IIRC

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>>170914771
Errantry War: Greenskins.

>>170914617
Imagine a world with 20 years worth of lore and rules built around it. Now end ALL OF IT. Get rid of most of the models, turn a huge rulebook into 4 pages, shit on the lore, and make models impossible to transport.

Do you understand why people hate it now? The new models look nice but how the fuck would you transport Archaon or Nagash? They bend the laws of physics just so they can stand.

>tfw the dow 3 beta is completely over

If you have any questions about the game understanders you can ask me.

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>>170914617
>Why does AoS have the coolest units
It's a hit-or-miss kind of thing. Some of the new stuff is really well made, and other just screams wannabe 40k.
>why do people hate it
They ditched the ahistorical setting and went balls to the walls retarded with a comic book tier setting that wants to be 40k but not. They killed Slaanesh because you obviously can't have boobs in a game, and they renamed every species to something retarded because it lets them trademark it. Like orruks instead of orcs, or aelves instead of elves.

There are a ton of other things, but let's just say that Age of Shitmar is GW's greed and incompetence made manifest.

>>170914995
Is it as shit as everyone imagined it would be?

>>170915106

Not even close, there are things I don't like but I played 50 hours in 3 maps in 6 days.

I've played most recent RTS for far less

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What the fuck, Legendary? Nordland didn't even have "Imperial Distrust".

>>170914617

Because the setting is gay as fuck and because to make that gay as fuck setting they killed off one of the oldest, most developed fantasy settings around.

A lot of the actual models are pretty cool though

>>170914995
Is there anything good about it?
IG when?

>>170915180
Would you pay 60$ for the game?

Also i'm pretty sure this is /twg/, but I don't mind.

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For every newfag who wonders why people despise age of shitmar: this is one of the maps that replaced the old world

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>>170915040
>but let's just say that Age of Shitmar is GW's greed and incompetence made manifest.
Furthermore in case you're not familiar with GW; their website is today nothing more than a mediocre webshop, but that was not always the case. It had hobby pages, tutorials, lore excerpts from various books, and explained the franchise and the various factions. I don't recall if they had a forum or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did. It was overall a really good website that helped beginners in the hobby.

And go now to their website. It's just a webshop, nothing more. All the tutorials or articles are gone, everything deleted. There's nothing explaining what the settings are, nothing to help guide new or old fans to the franchise. It's just one big webshop.

There is not a single miniature company in the world that is as terrible as Games Workshop.

>>170915403
Literally deviantart-tier.

>>170915403
>Rain of corpses
That's pretty metal

>>170914617
I personally dislike them because how unrelatable they feel for me. Also, they got bonus points for replacing the previous lovely setting.

>>170915509
yeah, if you are12 years old it might be

>>170915479

>Furthermore in case you're not familiar with GW; their website is today nothing more than a mediocre webshop, but that was not always the case. It had hobby pages, tutorials, lore excerpts from various books, and explained the franchise and the various factions. I don't recall if they had a forum or not, but it wouldn't surprise me if they did. It was overall a really good website that helped beginners in the hobby.

GW is actually getting better about shit like this

Their website is still pretty awful, but their Youtube has new painting tutorials almost every day and the guy that makes them is pretty chill.

Which horde faction is more fun to play?
Chaos or beastmen?
I'm thinking about buying one of the horde DLC

>>170915403
What the fuck am I looking at? I can fucking draw better!

>>170915627
Beastmen have the more fun campaign, Chaos has the better roster.

>>170915291
>Is there anything good about it?

It's a decent RTS, it's not as boring or bland as the most recent ones, if you liked DoW 1 you'll like this, it's very similar (even the quotes are the same for some reason, just with different voice actors), but here heroes play a more prominent role.

>>170915349

I would simply because it's DoW and a new RTS, also if I invested 51 hours it's already enough for me to purchase.

Make no mistake, the game needs a lot of tweaks to stuff, so far I would rank it above DoW 2 and below DoW 1, and I'm no DoW 2 hater I've played 1k hours of retri mp, DoW 3 is just a better multiplayer game than DoW 2 was.

For example my biggest concern is that all the cool stuff is hidden behind elite "commands", meaning you can bring 3 elites with you and said elites affect your faction in a way, for example assault terminators grant tactical marines krak grenades, something that should be an arsenal upgrade instead.

>>170915627
As a diehard chaos fan, buy beastmen and wait until they make chaos great again in the third expansion

>>170915573
Silly me, i forgot how serious and dignified warhammer usually is.

What you guys think each of the next expansion factions are getting as their "flavor" mechanics?

Slavery for edgy elves
Spacecrack for reddit rats
??? for high elves and lizards

>>170915403

Seriously why not hire a real artist?

This shit looks like a dungeon map from some world of warcraft fansite.

>>170915595
Just checked it out, and the painting videos were pretty good. The rest were semi-cringeworthy stuff like some "epic" trailers.

Also;
>comments have been disabled in this video
They know. They fucking know, don't they.

>>170916068

Probably more Attila mechanics chopped up and spread around.

Ogres food, Skaven plagues etc.

>>170916068
Guessing warpstone and some form of clan mechanic for Skaven. Like you have standings with the respective major clans and have to take sides for different bonuses/maluses as they squabble.

>>170916068
>lizardmen
Reclaiming old city/ancient ruins, hunting for relics, rebuilding the portals to teleport around the world, ultimate wonder victory lifting a spaceship to ascend to the skies
>high elves
sth like wild hunt event to help to beat da great evyll
>dark elves
a mix between horde/settlement system, where your settlements only grow if you raid other race settlements
>skaves
greeny-thing is mine-mine

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>>170916121

I think it is fanart. I haven't found the image anywhere, and I tried searching but no results. The style most certainly doesn't match the other art they've done for Shitmar.

>>170915403
someone actually got paid for this

still better than 95% of /ic/ tho

>>170916315
>LIGHTNING BREATHING DRAGONS

>>170911147
Only crashes I've had after the brettonia patch were when I skilled up a lord who levelled while reinforcing a settlement battle.

Reloads didn't help either, had to replace the guy.

>>170916068
Lizardmen should be about recolonizing the lost temple cities and making Slann wake up, acquiring artifacts of the old ones, killing as many rats and chaos spawn as possible whilst occasionally fufilling a "commandment" from the old ones that could be literally anything from razing an Empire town to eliminating a nearby army
Eventually, you get enough slann that they can start deep striking your armies into the Old World so you can remove Skaven and Chaos once and for all.

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>>170915403
This is literally an actual piece of content produced for the game. Look at this fucking dogshit. I am still SO MAD.

WHFB DIED FOR THIS. KARL FRANZ DIED FOR THIS. VLAD VON CARSTEIN DIED FOR THIS.

MANNFRED SURVIVED AND CONTINUES TO BE A CUNT IN AGE OF SHITMAR WHILST VLAD'S MODEL IS NOW JUST A GENERIC "VAMPIRE LORD". I AM 3000% MAD.

>>170916315

Seriously fuck age of smegmar and their dumb roman space marines

>>170916582
VLAD BTFO

based mannfred is definitely /ourguy/

>>170914989
Don't forget the retarded party game rules

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>>170916582
>Vlad died
>Mannfred survived
Guess AoS wasn't all bad

>>170916068
Jungle paths stance for Lizardmen
Under-empire stance for Skaven
Underworld sea stance for Dark elves

I can't come up with something stupid for High elves.

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/twg/ here is the cover, name the album!

>>170916582

>vlads models is now a generic vampire lord

For every day that passes, I keep thinking; maybe I should forgive GW for their stupidity.

And now I see this. Nothing is forgiven, and never will be.

>>170916825
fuck man I wish they reworked the whole underground system. It should be like homm underground maps

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>>170914989
You would like the Anvils of the Heldenhammer, they're warriors from the World That Was that came back when Azyr went all fucky.

I WANT THEIR SOULS

>>170917112
the world
will drown
in VLAD

>>170910353
is very hard in Warhammer considered easy?

>>170917194

No.

>>170916996
I hope they do this for the second game

>>170909808
Meanwhile...
More Beastmen Jacking.

Oh its you again.

>>170910638

Me too bro

Been playing since fucking VI.

Once you become a steam roller and can't lose it's pointless.

I appreciate they try to address this with scripted RD/Huns/Chaos though.

After I saw only .2% of players have finished a camp on legendary though Im motivated to actually complete one in TWW

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>enemy army attacks me
>river battle
>unlike normal river battles this map only has one crossing for some reason
>entire army piles in to foederati
>start poring in fire from their unshielded side w/ bows
>target & kill their gen
>use the scare on belisarius' cav + flaming/whistling to cause a mass rout
>run them down

rome will be free soon

>>170912325

Inb4 the
>VH/normal mustard race :^)

meme

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>faster than a blood knight
can we get even faster?

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Any word on Wood Elves getting followers? or better item drops for that matter?
Them not getting followers is completely fucked if you ask me
Anything about new lords for any faction?

>>170905313
Git gud anon.

You can use those army comps at higher difficulty levels too. you just have to be more agressive to prevent the AI from just b-lining to your artillery

>>170916582
but Manny is listed as a generic nerd on the store as well

>>170908192
He's more austistic. Its easier to just raze everything than it is to actually settle or take over provinces.

>>170918461
Post more Grace and I'll tell you.

>>170916825
>Dragon-paths stance; High elves utilize their good relationships with dragons to traverse otherwise impassable terrain

>>170916762
He's Nargash's bitch though

>>170916582
Maybe its recompense considering mannfred was made into a bitch during end times

>>170917068
>holding a warhammer like its made of foam
fuck me that looks so dumb.

It's like they played too much WoW and didn't realise that warhammers & axes in that game look dumb as shit because they're too cheap to make unique animations for them.

>>170914617
its shit gb2 reddit

>>170918859
Recompense for Mannlet fucking finally getting what he deserves? The whole of Age of Shitmar is solely is fault. The fact that he's even allowed to exist in any way is an insult.

>>170918941
They're made from the same magic metal that hammer is, so I'd give it a pass.

>>170916315
wow that looks like serious shite; really hope thats not official

>its another "/twg/ devolves into /tg/-tier discussion about a setting that is not total war related at all" thread

>>170919348

They hire a lot of different artists for their artwork and it varies in quality. I think a clear majority of them look solid.

>>170919543

Well, it was obvious when Warhammer became a TW game. I don't mind it too much since I'm a fan of both. And as soon as the new history game comes out it will problably dominate the discussion like every new game always do.

>>170916379
Lightning breathing dragons were in warhammer fantasy too.

I can't fucking do an Empire playthrough. I always get sandwiched between shit. This time it was Vampires from one side and fucking Skulltakerz from the other, at the time when I can barely support 1.5 stacks.

>>170919806

Get NAPs immediately. Eat the rebels as soon as you can. Take out Marienburg with a ambush battle if you can, or try to steal it while they're busy fighting someone.

As soon as Marienburg is taken you will have a steady income and a breather, and you can plan from there.

>>170920169
>NAPs
?
Thanks for the rest. I usually do take out rebels as fast as possible, the hiccups begin after the first confederation, especially if it puts me towards Vampires.

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moops btfo

>>170920543
non agression pact

>>170920543

Non-Aggression Pacts.

Also, never, EVER enter a military alliance. The AI will drag you into wars.

>>170920802
Yeah, I know about that. Can I somehow prevent Dorfs south of Averland from chimping out at me like hairy goblins? They love adding southern front to the list of my already existing problems at worst times.

>>170920946
Make yourself useful and fight some greenskins.

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G O B L I N S

>>170919543
>there's a TW game on it
>not related to TW at all

More related than WW1/2

Whats good AI mod that makes a little bit more interesting.

Never managed to see a proper waagh

>>170921998
Not sure if it's exactly what you're looking for, but there's http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=761596200

>>170908223
Do you play Empire vanilla or use mods? Ive had the game in my library for ages but never played it cause i hear nothing but bad things even if the era and map look great.

>>170919806
>>170920169

Playing a leg run myself as empire.

Have had Reikland sacked by bmemes, mburg, vcunts, skullz, rebels

No one trades or NAPs with me but I had a big break when wissenland joined me and i was able to take an undefended mburg.

Currently in the vamp wars and fully expect to get fucked by chaos

The -8 PO is the biggest change.

Im getting into the habit of planning for rebels and just farming them for XP

>>170921946
>(you) in charge of reading comprehension

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Well that took a while.

>>170922875
Now that's proper chivalrous.

>>170922875
First thing I did on my chaos campaign was take out those fuckers. Occupying ruins I made while spreading corruption? Not on my fucking watch.

>>170922875
DOMINA VULT

All this fucking warhammer posting is absolutely insufferable

Fuck off with your ahistorical stupid lore shit faggy LARPers

>>170923963
Post your campaigns m8.

>>170916314
Please never direct a game

>>170923963
fuck off histcuck back to your containment board

>>/his/

>>170923963
Then post historical campaigns instead of whining.

>>170923963
Oh no, people are talking about a game I don't like! Should I:

>A) Talk about a game I do like and start discussion.

>B) Complain and accomplish nothing but looking like a bitch.

>>170923963

>stop posting what I don't like! RREEEEEEE

you should invest in some rope

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>>170916315
Wtf is this thing?
Not sure if bad drawing bad proportional crossbow, or a fucking blaster

>>170917194
yes

>>170925106
Sigmar's Bolter of War.

>>170925106
It's some sort of crossbow lightning caster thing I think
It's definitely crossbow-shaped

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>Download Faith and Steel
>Handgunners pack more punch and have a slower reload
>"Oh boy stronger missile damage, maybe they'll be useful now."
>The shots just throw the enemy back 20 feet

>>170925579
>He fell for Faith and Steel meme

>>170925106

It's a hand crossbow, but if you shave off the two arms it's literally just a pistol

>>170925579
>The shots just throw the enemy back 20 feet
what the fuck

is this real?

>>170925678

I'm enjoying everything else about it so far, but the handgunner change is by far the dumbest. Why not just give them stronger missile damage?

>>170925789

Against infantry targets, yes. It makes them really good, they disrupt enemy formations like crazy.

But it's retarded.

>Karak Ziflin starts raiding my territory when Archaon shows up.
>Declare war and wipe out the 5 stack, but they were allied with Bretonnia.
>5 turns later, Bretonnia won't attack even when they have 4 stacks against my one.
>Raiding a province I forgot I even had.
>Scatter whenever anything comes near 'em, losing a town a turn and perfectly content to hang out in the east.
""""Chivalry""""
Had a chuckle after the third "x the coward" I killed, though.

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>>170922223
It took me some 3 attempts at the tutorial to finally enjoy the game (storming walls is objectively wrong, just wait for the AI to sally)
I played full as Austria, then failed after trying to brute for the Ottomans for objectively bad land in the Balkans while the >H >R >E hated me
Then I went Britain, conquering America because no one cared about the colonies and my Navy could stop all naval invasions, then going for India and North Africa into Europe through Spain, the Caucuses, and Italy
I might just be Frederick the Great, but, I love the sight and sound of musket fire and the charge of noble curaissers.
My previous pic was Darthmod to actually win as Austria.

I would highly recommend Britain for a first playthrough because the AI never performs Naval Invasions (besides Prussia's lust for Panama, I've discovered), so you can learn about developing a navy while advancing military tech and using Jamaica to produce the first Line Infantry in the Americas.

I would say it's a very different game in comparison to the others. Ranged combat means that keeping lines of fire and covering angles is essential, but I like slowly curving my lines around to flank the enemy. Cavalry is for harassment and to attack isolated elements. Artillery harasses and just inspires hasty action that allows for cavalry to shine.
Give it a shot if you've got the space for it, and read about some late 17th and 18th century wars. It might take you a few times to get used to it, but I think it can be a fun experience.
Even then, I love the campaign map. Sure, you can say shit about France and Spain being one territory, but I love developing all the smaller towns (and learning the geography for several modern cities) while the cities act just as recruitment centers.

>>170925579
Yeah I noticed that and it's really stupid. While playing it there's more (minor) stuff he adds to certain units which I don't like, such as adding unbreakable to pilgrims.

>>170925980
>people praise this mod

We need to clean the general from the shitters
mods were a mistake

>>170922497
>AoS is not related to warhammer

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>>170926290
All quiet on the western front
At least until the Mughals dropped 2 stacks in Genoa after I took Rome

>>170925579
The changes to grail knights/guardians are retarded,i mean less than 1k health wtf

>>170926389
why is that even necessary, pilgrims already have insanely good leadership.

>>170926409
The only good mod is
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=882943096&searchtext=

Every other mod can fuck off.

>>170926512
it's related to warhammer but not to total war

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any day now

>>170926409

>people think a (one) guy making a fuckton of changes can really test/balance it all on his own

It's why I stick with cosmetic or quality of life mods

>its a john the armenian claims paris for the roman empire campaign

where the fuck are the ai's armies?

>>170928567
map mods are okay too.

>>170928639
Armenians are the strongest race in the world.

>>170928639
>>170928951
>Following the battle of Tricamaron in North Africa, December 533 AD, where the Romans were victorious against the Vandals, General Belisarius dispatched John the Armenian with two hundred horsemen in pursuit of Gelimer, and transmitted to safe custody at Carthage the Vandal treasures and captives.... John the Armenian had continued in his pursuit during five days, and was on the point of overtaking him, when he himself was slain by a random blow from one of his own soldiers. Belisarius, who was attached to him by the closest ties of friendship, shed tears at the tidings of his death, and assigned a yearly payment for the maintenance and repairs of his tomb. Yet he forgave the involuntary murderer, not only since he had taken shelter at a shrine, but because the dying words of John had avouched his innocence, and with a solemn oath adjured his comrades to refrain from his punishment. The loss of this generous officer had suspended the progress of the cavalry under his command, and favored the escape of Gelimer.

;_;7

>>170928951
you mean Johns are the strongest race in the world

>>170929082
>Belisarius, who was attached to him by the closest ties of friendship,

Oh. so they fuggd or what? :DDD

>>170929292
What are you, a woman? Can you not comprehend the idea of close male friendship?

>>170929292
>Romans
Do you even have to ask

>>170916876
>boned

>>170929467
This and also reminder that it is not gay if you say "no homo" afterwards.

>>170927057

The Grail Guardian change is awesome what are you on about? It turns them into Bretonnian Aspiring Champions

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>keep save scumming Seige of Marienburg because I keep fucking up

I feel so casual right now please kill me.

>>170929902
>savescumming
Campaign is lost already.

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Bretonnia campaign is comfy af.
>I started slowly, conquering Marienburg and trying to kill Skullsmasherz in mountains, while exterminating greenskins spawning in my provincies.
>After that i got rid of Mousillon and started to confederate with other Bretonnian factions. Every Bretonnian realm were in friendly realations with each other in contrast to Empire provincies which waged wars upon themselves. Karl Franz managed to destroy seperatist only with my help on turn 50 or something like that.
>When i almost confedarated all of Bretonnia, Druthu attacked Parravon. I provided shield to my fellow Bretonnians and then confederated them. Waterfall Palace was sacked and razed by my forces few turns later. Other welven factions were friendly to me, and we signed military alliances.
>Dwarfs from Grey Mountains wanted to became my vassal and i obviously provided them with my shield. Clan Angrund also allied with me and then we together eliminated greenskin threat in mountains.
>While all of this was happening i constantly protected north of the Empire. Thanks to my efforts Karl Franz finally mananged to unite southern part of Empire, while Hochland northern part. My crusades against Skaeling neutrilzed any threat from them which allowed Kislev, Empire and Hochland to defeat forces of Varg and Chaos. Later i burned Varg settlements too.
>Both Mannlet and Vlad liked me for some reason, but i stared war with them, so my alies (Hochland and Empire) could have two more common enemies which made them confederate.
>Dwarfs were losing badlandsbowl, so i ordered my Welfbros and vassalized Karak Ziflin to attack Greenskins in Badlands. My plan sort of worked, as Grimgor stopped smashing Dorfs so hard, but Thorgrim was still losing. Orion on other hand started to take over Badlands.
>It's turn 140 and Chaos in full force finally arrived to face united and cooperating Dorfs, Welfs and Humanity.

can I bully the Von Carsteins into confederating with me or do I have to be friendly with them?

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>>170930030
I have failed Ze Laydee

>>170929902
>savescumming
You are the worst

I think I may have cucked myself out of confederating Carcassonne.

Bitch only has one territory left but I've surrounded it and nuked the Beastmen so she's relatively safe.

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If just got to set up a formation with all my armies this VH Empire campaign would be over and I could go play fun games, but instead I have to hold against four bunched up chaos armies reinforcing from solid directions fighting my three armies one-on-one. Fucking shit. Is there a mod allowing me to deploy all of them at the beginning of the battle, preferably allowing the enemy to do the same? I'm fine with being a cheating fraud at this point.

Yes I know my army build is retarded, I'm a baddie

>>170930489
>build
looks fine to me man, am i bad too?

>>170910979
Add Pestigors to that list.
I need my Nurgle fix.

>>170930294
Friendly. If you fuck with them they'll only accept vassal.

>>170927067
I don't know but maybe he thought flagellants = shabby religious zealots = pilgrims.

And also forgetting pilgrims have armour, shields and very similar offensive stats to flagellants.

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>120 boar boy big uns per unit
>11k health
By ze Lady, I need to research the fuck orcs tech ASAP, those shitters will probably wipe knights of the realm the fuck out

>>170931643
Tech isn't going to help.

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>>170931643
>conquer fucking anywhere mod

GET OOOUUUTTT

>>170930914
Will vassal make them more likely to confederate with me?

>event lets you either embrace chaos and gain corruption or get corruption reduction everywhere for a few turns
>there's no point in doing the former

Why even give the choice? It feels like they planned to let you side with chaos or at least get some units or something but gave up on that and just forgot about this event.

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>>170931863
its only for orcs, I felt that they were too weak, so I installed a few mods that boost them and the beastmemes by adding more men to their units, making them respawn with much stronger stacks, including the respawning of the main factions, and giving the orcs the ability to conquer anywhere

it has made fighting them much more fun, even gobbos are a threat when there is 300 of them in one units

>>170930281

Vlad's diplomatic dialogue is so goddamn comfy.
>courtesy is a sign of good breeding! welcome!

>>170932152
The welf event is better, where you can get an item in exchange for corruption

Why does Balthasar Gelt keep saying I AM INNOCENT? Is he on trial? Why does the game never mention this?

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>>170929831

>>170932283
>Thou shalt forgive me for not shaking thine hand, 'tis filthy.
Rude.

>>170932587
I thought it was "I AM HEAVEN SENT" but that also makes no sense now I think about it.

>>170932587
>>170932690
You idiots he's saying I AM IN A CENT

It's a reference to his metal mask

>>170932587
He's black and CA are a bunch of memelords.

I thought he says "I am in ascent."

>>170932595
That must be a typo.

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>>170925106
Remember when Warhammer had beautiful oil paintings instead of mass-produced digital?

>>170932595
>>170932804
I can only guess he forget to change the vanilla hp value, or forgot a zero.

>>170932758
he refers to his mask as a Cent?

>>170933073
nope,some other mod is fucking it up

>>170925106
The new Radious units

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So what's the best army set up to take Marienburg early on as the Brettonians?

>>170932595
>>170933224
it was "warhorse reskin"
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=877007472

>>170933283

>Middle ages didn't have javelinmen

Javelinmen were awalys the most common type of skirmisher, ancient times or not

>>170933283
Your starting army + 2 archers and 2 sword-peasants.

>>170932764

This

Kek @ 'innocent'

Niggah is OJ under the mask

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Scout Equites>Tagmeta Cav

>>170933604
I assume tactics wise i just throw peasants at the walls until i win with occasional Pegasus Deep Strikes now and again?

>>170933283
Start with your starting army
Move to the border between yourself and Marienburg
Hire the max number of Men-at-Arms in that turn
End Turn
On the next turn move in and attack Skullsmasherz, fight them on the field, raze their shit
Also hire a second lord back in your capital, recruit an archer and max number of men at arms in that turn
End turn
On turn 3, besiege Marienburg with the main stack and force march the second stack over, merge depleted melee squads from the ork battle together, delete any excessively weak (<20 men) ones, transfer healthy squads from the second stack over to the main one, then storm the city, blow a hole through a wall with trebuchets, kill the towers around it with them, then cycle charge your cavalry through the gap at the enemy squads guarding it until all of them die, optionally climb the walls with archers to fire from them inside the fortress once it feels safe

Voila, you've destroyed both Marienburg and the ork Menace by turn 3, it works on Legendary as long as you're not completely fucking terrible at battles, In the case that you are terrible, just spend a couple extra turns replacing your spearmen and peasant mobs with swordsmen-at-arms before storming Marienburg.
Shit's easy senpai

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One man shielding civilization from eternal darkness.

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>>170933858
Alrighty I'll give this a try.

>>170933826
>playing TLR
good choice I liked it too, I hope you are being a good goy and not defecting

>>170934019
Enjoy getting raped.

>>170934019
Looks like you've got a bit of a Greenskin problem

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>>170928474
>no kurt helborg lord to put in the reiksmarshal slot
why even live

>>170934730
I'm allied to greenskins and they are getting raped down in the badlands, dawis are a much bigger problem.

>>170934596
It's okay, he has lightning strike.

>>170934019
Sure hope your waifu is somewhere close by.

>Can't gift settlements to other factions
>No longer have peasants walking the roads or ships on the trade lanes
>Can't look at the settlements in game anymore
>Removed the fire dynamic for the battle maps

Why did they remove the fun?

>>170904996
I rarely play on anything other than Normal/Normal
I actually haven't completed a campaign on the hardest difficulty since NTW

>>170934889
>lightning strike

fag

>Buy Wood Elves
>Suddenly game fails to load anymore, getting stuck at 90% with the sound skipping
Why have you forsaken me, god?

>>170935676
Once you fill out vlad's melee and magic there isn't a lot else to use it on that'll be worthwhile

How many armies can join errantry war quest? I have Leon, Fey and one generic Lord standing close to each other in chaos wastes, but when I want to begin the quest only Leon and that generic Lord show up with their armies on the pre-battle versus screen. Is something wrong?

Also what will happen when I finish it. Will the Chaos Invasion end or i also need to kill Archaon and rest of his faction on the campanign map like when i play as other races?

>>170936047
It's a quest battle so you can only bring one army.

Best VC Necromancer LL? I've played too many Vlad/Mannfred campaigns of just soaking and stalling and not dying. I want to rip the earth asunder and raise the damned to do my bidding.

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Why does Bret start with an aversion towards the race they exist to protect?

>>170936210
Fugg, you are right. That other guy isn't mine generic lord.

>>170936441
Ghorst is much better than Kemmler.

But they're both pretty shit.

>>170936441
Kemmler horde gameplay is super fun.

>>170936473
>Bretonnia, defenders of civilization
>exist to protect chaos elves
You're not making any sense, lad.

>>170936473
Somebody has been reading End Times lore. CA apparently hates End Times as much as we do!

>>170936638
Kemmler is suited to Horde gameplay because his raise dead is cheaper right?

>>170933858
Wait, you can actually destroy walls with siege engines during battles? I never tried cause it said the walls are indestructible.

>>170936809
Too bad there's no mod for that. It'd be pretty damn fun.

>>170936958
I don't know, it says his Raise Dead is cheaper on the LL selection screen, I can't see anything else that would make Kemmler a better leader for Horde armies than that?

>>170936843
some parts are indestructible,others not so much

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>When Marienburg sallies out to fight you on the open fields so you can full exploit the usage of your knights

Really rattles my lances.

>>170937045
Him being a horde would be thematic since he's pretty much that in the lore.

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What's some good house rules for a Chaos playthrough to spice it up a bit?

Playing Steel Faith + Legendary, any other mods to up the challenge?

>>170936473
It's not your aversion toward them, it's their aversion toward you.

so Hemmler was the only dude I had left in my last battle and I wanted to retreat with him but instead he just dropped down dead...

I thought only vampire units crumbled and lord & heroes could just rout?

>>170937585
You're probably looking to limit/impede your recruiting and army composition

For example only recruiting norscans until you've razed/subjected the entire Norsca, no trolls or giants until you've razed troll country/kislev

Also limiting your army composition, maybe in the same way there are limits on tabletop (although I don't know exactly how it works, but I'm sure some fucking nerds here can help out)

>>170937585
I just replace my starting lord with one of the random ones and play til that horde gets killed or wins

>>170905863

>DIVINE JEWISH VICTORY

kek

does Invocation of Nehek only heal in combat or something?

Trying to use it to top units up before the enemy reaches my line and it isn't doing shit.

>>170937914
No, all vampire units crumble.

>>170937914
All vc units can suffer crumbling, even generals and stuff
They recently changed things so that if the only unit left in an army after battle is the general, he dies too
>>170938238
You units might be capped off at their starting casualties and can't be increased above that number

>>170938238
it can't heal to values higher than what you had at the start of the battle, signified by that bar across the unit's HP

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>Isabella's starting army
>Bats and some ghouls

Are you joking? What's the best opening move for her? Go straight for Drakenhof?

>>170938238

You can't heal units more than their starting HP.

>>170938357
Recent update might've messed with that bar appearing as it seems not to sometimes

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First post tells me which campaign to finish next

>>170934745
soon

>>170938543
Legendary Angrund.