/meg/ - Mass Effect General

gigi-chan best waifu

>>170884153
>“It’s really hard to benchmark individual machines. We’re just saying that that’s the bare minimum that it’ll run at. It’ll probably run at higher than that for most of the game, it’s just really hard to be specific about it. We just want to do the minimum and we want to do the recommended. The recommended, at least on my machine at home, I have a 1060, I run at higher than 30 [fps] for the majority of the game. But it’s hard to actually to say, ‘This is the specs, and this is exactly what you’ll run at.'”
So this game it's gonna be an unoptimized shitfest right?

jack remains the superior waifu

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Stop making fun of PeeBee

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Tali is still best waifu.

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She is going to make me cheat on my blueberry waifu from my ME1 save.

Those fucking hips man.

>>170884153
Its very clear that Andromedas gonna be shit
how are you guys coping with this fact?

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My only.

<3

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Replaying the 1st mass effect for the first time in a few years because I hate myself. Had few of the trophies unlocked but hardcore mode doesn't show up, nor is it letting me pick any of the bonus powers I unlocked

What gives?

>>170880674
I can deal with the lack of changing outfits, since I never gave a shit (and aside from DLC it was just pallet swaps in 2, and while Me3 at least had minimal effort it was just assets they already had reskined and put on a squad member for the most part) the weapon thing I admit does get me. I haven't even been that negative about it but this kind of gives me pause. Like I'd understand if they didn't let us go full Dragon Age and make them weapons with crazy augments, since god knows that some weapons in 2 and 3 they just couldn't really use to their full potential, but at the same time it'd be nice to get some options, or let us play around with it rather than none.

I mean I'll see how it pans out and hope that the damage scaling they get is enough, since generally I just stuck squadmates with the best damage weapon in each of their classes that didn't fire weird in a way that their AI was too stupid to handle and call it a day.

Just feels kinda weird that you have all these new crafting options and they're just for you.

>>170884381
waifus

Just as we always have

>>170884381

We've known it for ages and most people here are going to buy/pirate it anyway.

Last thread was unexpectedly decent. Let's try not to screw this one up too badly.

>>170884176
>Destroy Ending: You commit genocide of a race you gained the trust of. Reapers permanently dead, but the universe will have to face the dilemma of AI rendering organics obsolete eventually.
>Control Ending: A less violent solution but you run the risk of going full retard like TiM eventually. Would be the perfect ending if the game allowed you the freedom of choice the series ran on and let you order the reapers to march into the nearest sun.
>Synthesis: Incredibly invasive mental and physical changes imposed on the entire galaxy. Mac tries to push this ending without thinking about how messed up it is.

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>>170884341
Also, is the Tali romance any good or is it all just *glom* *squee*-bioware-esque bullshit as usual?

Because I want to coat that visor in my baby batter.

>>170884471
It's kinda like that in ME2 where Tali starts spilling her spaghetti, but in ME3 I think it's genuinely well-done.

>>170884471
Tali is pretty obvious waif-nerd-bait but it's effective waif-nerd-bait. She's cute.

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>>170884312
Objectively incorrect
>tfw Bioware blatantly favored Liara

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>Soon to be four (4) games in the ME series

>Not one of them lets the MC buy and cuddle with a baby kitten

>>170884295
i'll stop when she stops being ugly

>>170884549
*continued into ME3 I mean, you have to start it in ME2

>>170884443
But Bioware's deliberately making them ugly as fuck. Because women being attractive is objectifying them.

>>170884580
That's a stupid thing to want in a video game. Buy a cat in real life.

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Jaal best husbando!

>>170884442
Destroy vs Control is pretty basic Renegade vs Paragon, yeah.

>Renegade is violent, cynical, and ruthless. Not Evil, but your past experiences have made you cold to the human cost of your actions.

>Paragon is idealistic to a fault. Despite your past experiences, you're willing to try the unknown option that's hypothetically better for everyone, assuming it doesn't go wrong.

Destroy is a definite solution with an immense cost, Control is a possibly far better solution that COULD go wrong, but you ultimately aren't told.

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>>170884578
>>170884629
Hey motherfuckers, are we going to have a problem here?

I'll gladly blow this place to kingdom come

>>170884680

>tfw illegal here

>>170884679
And males LI are attractive in your opinion? Blackwall, Iron Bull, Solas, Jacob, Liam? None of them are top tier either.

>>170884381
I just preordered it.

I barely even play vidya anymore except for a fewseries and this is one of them.

If it's shit I'll tell you a week after release when I beat it.

>>170884471
It's painfully cheesy, and literally the only reason it exists is a vocal minority that wanted to fuck her in the first ME game.

Basically for the super-lonely type that needs the hyper-affectionate squee pure virgin heroine. She's not a bad character at all, but her "love story" is some fanfic-tier shit.

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>>170884578
Tbh Liara raped Shepard at that part.

She really wanted that DNA I guess.

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>>170884778
Wait what?

You can't own a cat where you live? Where the fuck to you live?

>>170884781

>tfw Sten romance never

>>170884471
it's worth it for the Rannoch arc dialogue alone imo. Ties in very well to that plot.

>>170884381
i reckon i'm being fairly realistic about it

don't expect much from the story or the squadmate dynamics

improved combat and "exploration" should make it worth one playthrough, the same way me2 can be a pleasant change coming on the heels of me1

of course it's not fair to compare me2 to andromeda sinceafter a few years to consider things it's clear me2 was the best game in the trilogy

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>>170884781
>Solas
>not tippest top tier

>>170884679
To be fair when has being attractive mattered when characters like Garrus, Jack, and Ashley are commonly romanced

>>170884781
>And males LI are attractive in your opinion?
How the fuck would I know? I'm not a faggot. I thought girls would be into Liam, but apparently not?

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>>170884679
Well you're gonna get a couple of romancable side waifus if you don't like the squad.

I'm ready to gay it up with Gil!

That's show my dad for not loving me enough

Has anyone done prothean explanations of human mythology?

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>>170884854

college in the shithole known as D.C.

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>jaal is straight

gays btfo

>>170884910
What rational human, male or female, wouldn't want to fuck Garrus? He's the ultimate exception.

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>>170884854
Arstotzka. Glory to Arstotzka!

My Dick Ryder is going to be a renegade asexual fuckboy.

Cant wait.

>>170884998
Oh I thought you meant like a countries law not a dorm or something like that lol.

>>170884953
And then, just like Steve or Samantha in ME3, they'll be close to irrelevant. Because it's simply hard to keep attention on them when you spend most of your time off the ship.

>>170884629
>Peebe ugly
Atleast she is better than old hag and Birdgirl

>>170885068

There is no renegade you "lulsorandumb" retard

Alright, I think I'm picking Control.

It's the only ending (besides refusal which is blatantly picked to be unsatisfying) where you don't bow to the Catalyst's ridiculous muh chaos logic- most of the cons are based on "maybe"s and conspiracies like indoctrination theory.

>>170885129
Go to bed Mac, you have to work on that day 2 patch

>>170885198
>It's the only ending (besides refusal which is blatantly picked to be unsatisfying) where you don't bow to the Catalyst's ridiculous muh chaos logic-

You pretty much do, you just say that there should be a different all-powerful AI overseeing the whole thing.

The ending it very clearly doesn't want you to pick is Destroy. It says that Destroy won't solve anything and the problem will just flare up again later. Choosing it is basically saying "no, fuck you, you're wrong".

>>170884832
I always had that theory myself, too. That Liara got knocked up during that final mindmeld. But if you remember in ME1, Liara flat-out states it only works if the other party consents.

So you could say that she tries to, and then use your own invisible "choice" to decide if your Shepard was down with it or not. And then tell yourself she's either pregnant or not, even if the game doesn't mention it.

At least that was always my fanfic-tier view on it. Mainly I just want to think I knocked up Liara.

>current year
>still no option to upload music of your choosing into the game so you can chill aboard the tempest or cruise in the nomad listening to whatever tunes you like
>ywn get to ride out with the squad for the sole purpose of driving around on the most aesthetic planets to the sound of a carefully hand-selected playlist that accentuate and enhance the mood

brehs

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>>170884926
Women usually either go for the exotic alien like Jaal or les options like Suvi and Cora? before going just the straight vanilla path, that is unless you have a chiseled and built guy with an attractive personality

I'd imagine if DadRyder was romancable, wasn't your dad, and Bioware had better modelers people would be all over that

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>>170884549
>>170884558
>>170884830
>>170884865

All right, that's it. Blue's out - purple's in.

I wonder what Quarian nipples look like.

>>170885236
Im not Mac yo fag Peebe got %28 of votes in waifu poll(cora 29 i dont know which degeranates vote for her tho.) So gtfo here with your meme

>>170885198
Alright, I'm repeating myself from the last thread since it died right after.

>Control: Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Congrats, Shepard is just as retarded as TIM. Shepard will just be a glorified Illusive Man over time, and Shepard pretty much dies
>Synthesis: Warping the biology and minds of literally every sentient being in the galaxy without asking anyone for permission or if they want it at all, and Shepard dies
Imagine waking up one morning to find out someone performed extensive plastic surgery on you, and implanted wiring into your brain.
>Destroy: The geth are extinct and EDI is gone, but the Reapers are permanently dealt with rather than a still-present threat, nobody's bodies are warped, there's no risk whatsoever of a new Reaper god going bad over the centuries, and Shepard survives

Unless you think eradicating the Reapers is an evil act. I really don't get how anyone would pick an option other than destroy. Do you even give a shit about your waifu losing her husbando?

>>170885058
>kolechian nigger comes to my booth holding a cat
>absolutely fucking denied
>also take his cat, family won't be going hungry tonight

>>170884176
>Do you even give a shit about your waifu losing her husbando?

I went pure because I couldn't fug a femtur

>>170885128
At least Traynor leaves a good impression and Steve was your shuttle pilot It is quite a shame the same sex human romances are just crew mates. Non essential no less. You won't be seeing Gil or Suvi unless you go out of your way to look for them

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>>170885389
Shepard's AI doesn't do the harvest though and You can just decide to believe you tell the reapers to fuck off later if you want

You can say it "doesn't" want Destroy, but by picking it you're validating its stupid worldview that organics and synthetics have to fight and it goes out smugly convinced that it was correct, because it refuses to simply turn off the Reapers despite complete control.

>>170885285
All the endings are shit. Goddammit I forgot how mad 3 made me, I'm almost reconsidering andromeda.

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>>170885363
You must be pretty desperate for constant awkward forced affection, then.

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>>170885128
Well at least you interact a lot with the doc and smirkfu said she recorded a lot of steamy lines.

>>170885448
>Shepard's AI doesn't do the harvest though

But still acknowledges that the Reapers need to be a thing because the races of the galaxy cannot be trusted to watch out for themselves.

>>170885389
Synthesis in general is just bizarre. How is forcing something like that on all life in the galaxy a good decision.

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vetra is love
vetra is life

>>170885628
Does he? In both endings, including Paragon?

>>170885476
>smug anime face

>>170884926
I would say both Liam and Cora are average to slightly above average. So if you're not happy with Cora, I bet chicks aren't too happy with Liam too.

>>170885285
>it totally doesn't want you to pick Destroy
>but it tells you about Destroy being an option anyway, for fun I guess
>it tells you that option first
>it tells you that option even at the lowest possible EMS, where the Reapers have crushed your resistance against them and you're completely at it's mercy

There is an ending where it says directly to you "I don't want you to choose this". It's not Destroy.

>>170885697
Pretty much.

There's no "fly the reapers into the sun" option, both versions of the ending feature the AI using the Reapers to keep the peace.

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>>170885667
>liking Vetra
>AND liking short femturs

>>170884895
Cool, but that's not how he looks in the game.

>>170884229
Anon....of course it will be.

>>170885285
I spend three games trying to kill the damn reapers.

And god damn I was going to kill some reapers.

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>>170885296
Well as far as I remember she asked if she can show Shep something and he consented, then I assume he went on with whatever it was they did inside their heads. I don't think Shep knew it's babymaking and it sure looked like it.

She went to great lengths to resurrect him and she expected payment I guess.

>>170885718

From what I've seen it's not necessarily his appearance, but his VO that is subpar

>>170885779
where did you find a picture of me?

>>170885631
>something like that
It's pure nonsense. "poof, you're now synthetic" just completely ignores the essense of the supposed 'eternal conflict'

>>170885779
The frogposter is right

What bad decisions in your life have led you down this dark path?

>>170885357
Dunno. Blackwall was extremely unpopular. Maybe because of his personality, but I think his look was just off putting for fem players.

>>170885718
Liam was the second least popular character on the husbando poll, beating only Drack lol

>Bioware still didn't learn after Jacob

>>170885718
Eh, I think Liam's pretty okay, his loyalty mission was more entertaining than I expected it to be.

That being said, I probably won't romance him on my first playthrough, though I am looking forward to having him as a bro type character.

So when's this IGN trailer supposed to come out?

>>170885384
okay, mac, if you don't go to bed on your own, i'm gonna give you the melatonin again.

>>170885905
Tomorrow, I think?

>>170885448
>ou're validating its stupid worldview that organics and synthetics have to fight and it goes out smugly convinced that it was correct
Not quite how I see it. If you make peace between geth and Quarians you've already proven the smug little bitch wrong. But you can't stop a race of infinite demigod robots, each as strong as a fleet, without some serious sacrifices.

So it's true the geth die. But it doesn't prove humans and synthetics can't live together. It's brutal, unfair, cruel, but ultimately necessary. And organics can continue to prove the godchild wrong in the future after the geth.

Have a little optimism, anon. We proved that smug fuck wrong, at a cost, but we can rebuild.
Godchild said himself that more synthetics would inevitably be created in the future. And Shepard proved there's nothing wrong with that, no matter what the kid falsely believes. There will be another race like the geth, and this time, the galaxy's grown up enough to get it right.

Paragon Shepard best Shepard.

>>170885863
brain aneurysma

>>170885874
What the fuck he was? Dragon Age fans have shit taste

Blackwall was by far one of the better companions, Backstory and all

>>170885874

Didn't he fuck the inquisitor in a barn and then run off?

>>170885863
Femturs are suppose to be shorter than you, always dominate the xeno

>>170885996
Even you're your probably gonna get shat on for having that opinion from what I've seen. I liked him too though.

>>170885764
I just watched it and paragon control is both fairly optimistic and at the very least confirms that for the ongoing future that Shepard won't become TiM and reset the harvests. The Stargazer section confirms it, humans wouldn't be around otherwise.

>>170885978
tfw indecisive man

>>170885363
They're very sensitive.

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How many years have passed and you people still argue about ME3's ending...

>>170886052
Yeah. I saw his romance on yt and seriously, second worst romance in history of BW romances (jacob is first)

>>170885996
He's kind of boring and out of place in DAI

>>170885996
DA:I's husbandofags mostly seem to like the bald faggot elf that turns out to be a genocidal maniac, so their opinions should be disregarded.

>>170885874
Blackwall was pretty popular before release.

But then the game launched and >>170886052 happened so that sinked his popularity.

>>170886117
I would give Bioware a lot of credit with ME3's ending if it were confirmed that it was intended to be incredibly frustrating, you're forced to operate on a broken machine's faulty logic playing with countless lives because he can't help but throw a temper tantrum when someone proves him wrong.

I can't help but feel like it's more likely the writers actually thought their ending was intelligent and well-reasoned and got frustrated when people reacted with "what the fuck"

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>>170886052
Yup while Bull betrayed and tried to kill you, Solas betrayed you and wants to murder everyone and the Templar dude is a drug addict.

There is also Sera for lesbians.

>>170885835
Well, even if Shepard didn't know, it's not exactly a tragedy.
>The war is over, Shepard's the hero of the galaxy with infinite contacts that owe him favors, and his waifu is pregnant
>Now free to start a safe happy family life

Pretty happy ending if you ask me.

>>170886117
How many years have passed and people still argue about Evangelion's ending?

This shit will go on forever.

>>170886117
It's basically ME's greatest (in the sense of "large" impactful") contribution to gaming in general.

Mainstream publications that otherwise had never mentioned ME before (or games much more famous) were reporting on that shit in the month or so after the storm started.

>>170885835
>it sure looked like it
Not sure how it looked like it. He looked around, then grabbed her and they made out. It seems like he got the point to me.
>I don't think Shep knew it's babymaking
The player can decide that bit IMO.

>Cuckoldry scene discovered with Cora romance option
>It is possible to get Cora to cuck you with Liam
I have to admit, I'm impressed they added this.

>>170886304
The difference is that Eva's ending is actually worth discussing.

I really hope PooPee won't be forced on us as hard as Liara was, but her intro scene being "oops teehee I accidentally straddled u ;)" isn't building my confidence

>>170886407
>"You slept with a fucking nigger you coalburning bitch?"

Holy shit Mac, I really was not expecting this. I knew the ERSB warned for strong language but wow.

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>>170886274
Unless you romanced someone else.
I wouldn't be surprised if Liara then murdered your waifu to take her place.
I liked her and consider her the canon choice for Shep but something about her was off. I know crazy when I see it.

>>170886407
Source.

>>170886419
>Eva
>Worth Discussing

Pick one.

>>170886213
>intelligent and we'll reasoned
You can't just pull a 180 on space cthulu and try to shove in some bullshit about people vs machines when that only represents about a quarter of shepard's conflicts over 3 games.

>>170886419
>2deep4u shit that happened because the producers ran out of money is worth discussing

And I'm talking about the original, not EoE or those recent ones.

>>170886117
To be honest, the moral ambiguity of the final decision was pretty interesting. Each option had pros and cons. None of the three seemed inherently "right" or "good". With the extended cut, I really don't hate the ending anymore.

And fuck anyone who was salty there was no "last boss" in ME3. The confrontation with TIM while Shepard's a dead man walking was a pretty solid final "fight".

>>170886461
>Liara being intolerant of someone else's culture and dialect
Immersion ruined.

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>>170886437
At least we get this.

I also think they are gonna shill for Cora this time.

Synthesis
>lol, no

Control
>Shepard is dead
>Geth race are alive
>Edi is alive
>Reapers are still alive and there's vague potential for them to become dictators or worse, though the ending is left completely open and paragon Shepard is perhaps the nicest person in the universe
>Catalyst's diatribe could potentially be proven completely false with time

Destroy
>Shepard lives
>Geth die
>Edi dies
>Reapers all destroyed
>Catalyst is proven right in its dying throes that humans and synthetics can't live together, but more synthetics could be built in the future- tensions guaranteed tight after the reapers, though

>>170886114
back of the knee maybe

>>170886213
>I can't help but feel like it's more likely the writers
>writers
>Unaware Mac Walters literally locked himself in a room and wrote the ending by himself over a weekend without talking to other writers

Patrick Weeks talked about it and how he had a totally different ending in mind involving that little mystery about stars shrinking in ME2 when you're recruiting Tali. And that was never mentioned again. It was supposed to foreshadow the finale. But Mac Walters decided "fuck you guys, I'ma write something super DEEP."

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>>170886437
Stop making fun of PB

>>170886563
>Catalyst is proven right in its dying throes that humans and synthetics can't live together,
Is it being proven right when synthetics getting destroyed is an arbitrary consequence? Are people supposed to get along with the ancient insane beings who want to wipe them out?

>>170886663
wasn't it mac walters and casey hudson together?

>>170886563
Who gives a shit about cameltoe bot and the geth?

Reapers are destroyed, that was the mission and the entire point of the trilogy. Whatever people do 50000 years from now is not Shepard's problem, the point is that you gave people a chance to decide for themselves what to do with their lives instead of getting fucked in the ass by Not!Inhibitors every 50.000 years

>>170886437
i dont think it was accident she is just trying to stop scott and you are right forced like liara ayy... but i think if ryder wont romance with her she will be jaals whore.

>>170886682
Destroy ending is what you want but the catalyst tacks on a smug "But also, I'm right" bonus in that it's preaching that organics and synthetics will destroy each other- and you destroy all synthetics in destroy.

The reapers also aren't in control of their actions, they're forced into it by the Catalyst being a retard. Everything wrong with the Reapers is the catalyst's fault.

>>170886563
>Catalyst is proven right in its dying throes that humans and synthetics can't live together
Goddammit I hate how people say that's the case in the destroy ending. Shepard proved that they can live together. The little kid just didn't give him any option that allowed it. The kid could've just sent the Reapers back to dark space after being proven wrong, but no.

"Destroy" only proves the kid's a whiny little fuck that refuses to acknowledge Shepard's actions. Not that organics and synthetics can't live together. The geth dying from the blast doesn't make the Rannoch finale meaningless.

>>170886563
>No matter what happens there are at least 3 confirmed surviving Leviathans that can fuck with everyone when they regain their strength

>>170886563
> Catalyst proven right that synthetics and organic can't live together

Except you can prove it wrong with how you resolve the Quarian/Geth situation. Sacrificing them doesn't mean they can't live together in peace, just that the Reapers didn't see the peaceful resolution of a synth/organic war and fucked off like they should have.

>>170886545
>Uglier than PB.
no thanks, Only true waifu is Cora

>>170886796
Okay, that's actually a decent point for control.

Leviathans can dominate people in vast swathes, the only thing that stopped their rule was reapers.

>>170886783
>the kid
I think this is operating on the assumption that the ending is valid and totally not full of arbitrary bullshit written by a hack

>>170886773
>but the catalyst tacks on a smug "But also, I'm right" bonus in that it's preaching that organics and synthetics will destroy each other
That's why you just ignore the brat's smug comments. After all, he was already proven wrong. Who gives a shit what he says? He only thinks he's all-knowing.

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"this was done because of some bizzare ESRB censorship issue. Apparently advertisement videos like this gameplay showcase are not allowed to show a gun being pointed directly at the camera for fear of being threatening in nature of the subject matter towards an audience. So this is a workaround Bioware did specifically for the presentation, attempting to not make it obvious. But it seems literally everybody picked up on it anyway lol".

source:
http://tidywire2.tumblr.com/post/158306845791/soaringsparrows-holocomm-whats-this-about-a

.....ok.

>>170886796
I completely forgot they were still around. They can become a huge threat to all life.

>>170887036
That's stupid enough to be believable.

>>170887036
I have no idea why Biodrones latched onto this lie.

Just check the Mass Effect 2 launch trailer, there are various scenes of collectors pointing guns at the camera, someone even twitted a dev about this scene and he said nothing about censorship.

>>170887036
Bioware really is packed with complete pussies now, isn't it?

>>170887036
I believe that same reason believing God

>>170887036
>tumblr
>no sources on that source
While believable, there's no proof whatsoever.

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Anyone ever bought games on Oneplay?

The site says that Andromeda doesn't have Multiplayer, but there's no way a key redeemed on Origin could somehow be Single Player only, right?

>>170886663
>Patrick Weeks talked about it and how he had a totally different ending in mind involving that little mystery about stars shrinking in ME2 when you're recruiting Tali. And that was never mentioned again. It was supposed to foreshadow the finale. But Mac Walters decided "fuck you guys, I'ma write something super DEEP."

This is all completely untrue.

>>170887036
How come Aaryn Flynn just laughed at it then?

Bullshit lie

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>>170887129
Hell, don't even need to go so far back

People point guns at the camera on the fucking launch trailer for Andromeda

>>170887129
When someone tells a lie that stupid it's easier to believe because who the fuck would tell such a stupid lie. Also,
>biodrones

>>170887245
How the shit does multiplayer work in mass effect? Asking for a friend.

>>170887371
Horde Mode with dozens of different pre-set classes of various species. And a RNG method of level grinding to get better gear.

>>170887371
Horde mode.

Okay, let's compare this.

>Sacrifice your sapient allies that were critical to the success of your mission
>But the reapers are dead forever, and will not have any part in galactic history after this point. There's a sense of freedom in that the universe is offered a clean slate.
>Also leviathans are out there.
vs
>Save everyone
>Reapers are peaceful and actively rebuild the universe, but there's a vague possibility that they could be a threat in the future- it won't be for a long time at least, as the stargazer is around.
>Leviathans are less of a threat with reapers

>>170887463
>option 3: install wires in everyone, murder is eliminated from the galaxy. Somehow.

>>170887463
Legion commends you for blowing up the collector base and choosing your own path. If anything not giving into the Reaper's goals by doing Synthesis or taking their power via Control would likely be fine with them even if they died.

>>170887256
It actually is true he wanted a ending with mass effect.

>>170887689
Edi also has a conversation where she comes to the conclusion that death is preferable to submission under the reapers.

But under paragon shepard-AI would something like that be a threat, is the question. The big problem with control is that for being "control" you don't actually get choice, you just rebuild and protect. And that'll probably be cool for a long time but long term who knows?

>>170887394
>>170887435
Oh so they stole this from Gears of War, gotcha.

>>170887795
It's less focused on holding out and more on completing the random objectives it throws at you

Like there is no base building or anything like that

>>170887779
Also considering that the human psyche isn't designed to be immortal compared to other alien races that live for thousands of years. With control they say that Shepard's personality will guide the reapers but is that personality locked in place? Unable to change with experiences? Because as things change won't an all powerful AI locked in an old fashioned personality cause problems eventually? We see that happening in reality with the alt-right holding onto outdated values and trying to destroy liberal progression that is good for all of humanity.

>>170887991
I mean, but everything -seems- to be fine in the stargazer cutscene and paragon shep AI stresses that it's important for the races to have a say in their future. Renegade wants to keep everyone in check, Paragon wants to protect and guide.

These endings all fucking suck, man.

>>170887463
>>Reapers are peaceful and actively rebuild the universe, but there's a vague possibility that they could be a threat in the future- it won't be for a long time at least, as the stargazer is around.

The Reapers are a problem even if they are purely docile. Can you imagine how having an immortal space gods casually flying outside your window would upset the power balance? Can you imagine the reaction from the public if they were told to play nice with the machines who wanted to genocide them just a couple of weeks earlier?

How will the Reapers communicate their intentions to the galactic community? Will they get a seat on the Council? Will they fly around the galaxy like the Jedi, helping people and settling issues? How interventionist will they be? The Renegade Shepard seems to intend to use them as a space police. How horrible would that kind of an oversight would be? Who decides that the Reapers should be used to resolve conflicts? Shepard, unilaterally, with his newfound godly AI intellect? How does he decide who deserves his backing and who not? Will he allow diplomacy or just mete out the punishment because, fuck you, I'm the God Emperor Shepard and I'm always right? This is the most insane kind of deterrence there is.

Eventually, the Reapers mere existence would silence any dissent and transform the galaxy into a state of perpetural fear dominated by a dictatorship of whoever Shepard decides to back.

>>170888050
>These endings all fucking suck, man.
Agreed. I've red fanfiiction endings that were far more enjoyable than the official ones we got.

>>170888085
And what of the loose end of the leviathans?

>>170887795
Or cod5

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>>170884578
And my Shepard never showed interest in her.
Now it's likely that Shepard's legacy is yet another asari slut. This proves time and again that asari are succubi and will spread enough to conquer the galaxy. Putting dick in the is the ultimate trap.

>>170888050
Red might as well have been the only ending, it's your entire aim for the duration of ME3 and has the most satisfying conclusion (people working together to rebuild the relays, the citadel and everything else that was destroyed, Shepard surviving) and also conveniently solves the Geth issue

Blue is just a worse Red with the potential of somebody else using the and Green is fanfiction tier retarded

>>170888757
THIS. Those fucking blue parasites.

>>170888787
Stupid laptop clicking the Submit button for brushing over it

Control leaves the possibility of somebody else using the Reapers for their gain and they could still be a threat, I don't want those fuckers still being out there

>>170887991
In Control the Reapers aren't controlled by a human psyche. The Catalyst/Starkid and his directives are erased, and they're replaced with Shepard AI which is based on what your Shepard thinks and believes.

Paragon Control is basically "watch over and guide", Renegade is closer to "empower and lead" I guess.

Neither of these leads to bad outcomes because even through Renegade is more proactive about embracing and using power, even that AI makes it clear that it honors and forever remembers the friends that died to allow it to exist.

>>170888757
Liara isn't a slut, delete this you fucker

>will spread enough to conquer the galaxy

They're the most gifted species and live for over 1000 years, this is literally inevitable

>>170888928
Ugh man
control is hypothetically a better option for everyone and fits with paragon shep's always do the right thing rhetoric, but reapers are real dangerous and keeping them around in any way is cause for concern

what would legion do

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>>170888757
>yet another asari slut
>She flat-out states she's a virgin in ME1
>no indication whatsoever that she's been with everyone else, and they go out of their way to make the audience know she considers Feron a friend

I'll keep my pure virgin, thank you. Unlike Tali, who probably let every male of any race put tubes in her induction ports for cash during her pilgrimage.

>>170888931
>Liara isn't a slut
Ah to be young and naive again.

>>170889123
Mac shouldn't you be getting dressed for work

>>170888931
>They're the most gifted species and live for over 1000 years, this is literally inevitable
Krogan live for about just as long, and they're now gaining a shitload of power assuming you cured the genophage. In a war, the asari would be slaughtered.

>>170889198
>largest economy in the galaxy vs space Afghanistan

Why do ME fans have no sense of fucking scale at all?

>Tali gets 2 sex scenes, neither of which are on-screen
>Liara gets 3 sex scenes, two of which are on-screen
Liara confirmed for oversexualized slut.

>>170889238
You missed the bit where I said
>they're now gaining a shitload of power assuming you cured the genophage
I don't mean right after the events of ME3. I mean after they establish themselves as a galactic superpower again since every damn species owes them a favor. Give the krogan a few centuries and I bet we'd get a krogan on the council.

>>170889123
>She flat-out states she's a virgin in ME1
>Fucks like an experienced whore if you romance her
>You literally die for her
>Come back in ME2
>Acts all cold and distant to you
>Even have dialogue options to just be friends
>It's obvious the guilt eating away at her that for the past two years she's been a massive slut bouncing from dick to pussy to dick just to forget about Shepard
>Becoems shadow broker to put distance between shep and herself so she can come to terms over what a disgusting loose whore she's been
>In ME3 leaves the dialogue open to see if shep really wants to be with her or just be friends after all the bullshit she's been pulling since ME2
>Shep wnatst o be with her
>Liara comes to terms with her past and won't let it decide her future
>Still fondly thinks of the DP session she had on stage with Varren that one time in the club she worked at

>>170884578
>Still my favorite moment in the series
>Had to load game up to watch it again after this thread
>I'm crying again

Fuck you guys.

>>170889238
You forget that Krogan just shits out kids one after the other and they mature rather quickly compared to Asari where 120 years is still considered a child to them. Wrex wasn't exaggerating when he said they might need 10 planets to life on. You're right about the afgan thing though since it seems female krogans are forced to wear burkas.

>>170884765
Do it faggot.
It'll be the only promise you've ever come though with

>>170889320
>Come back in ME2
>Acts all cold and distant to you
Like all romances in Trilogy... all of them acts like this.

>>170889198
>assuming you cured the genophage

Assuming I did indeed, the Krogan were already btfo once for getting out of control and will be btfo again if needed. If they have a shed of common sense they'll stay on the down-low and will probably be watched closely by the council

>>170889320
Nice fanfic.

>>170884578
Can anyone explain to me just what exactly was this scene? Made no sense to me.

>>170889320
Where can I read the full fanfiction?

>>170889320
>Fucks like an experienced whore if you romance her
>It's a bad thing that your waifu's good at sex after you've fucked plenty
>Acts all cold and distant to you
>After she spent two years doing nothing but trying to save you and kisses you the moment she sees you again. But distracted because she's trapped in a struggle to save her best friend who's being tortured to death
>Even have dialogue options to just be friends
>Literally the same for every romantic interest, male or female
>Becomes shadow broker to put distance between shep and herself so she can come to terms over what a disgusting loose whore she's been
>She moves her workplace into the Normandy for you, and moves some of her shit into your apartment for you in Citadel DLC

Ignoring all jokes and shitposting, she's seriously Shepard's most loyal ally.

>>170889394
you sick fuck, liking rape

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Did I hear people wanting to fuck blue parasites again?

>>170889560
Despite Liara explaining what it is right before she does it? To humor you, she's obviously mindmelding, which can transfer thoughts/memories. So she links up and shows Shepard something beautiful in the middle of the hell they're in.

>>170889560
They made a blue babby

>>170889634
vetra-kun what's the best ending

Has any writer ever commented on
>>170884578
and stated whether or not they made babby? Because that's hardly the only time the two of you mindmeld, and you didn't knock her up the other times.

So who'd win in a fight, Thane at his best or soldier Shepard? Don't forget those ridiculous codex entries about how superhuman N7 soldiers are enhanced to be.

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>>170889560
You know that classic film trope where the characters are in a horrible place with little hope, and one character attempts to cheer up the other by telling them to conjure a nice memory or to imagine them being somewhere else?

It's that, except she literally went in Shepards head and made that place seem much more real. Just the two of them sharing a moment together and not having to think about what's to come

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>>170889590
>Ignoring all jokes and shitposting, she's seriously Shepard's most loyal ally.

You're forgetting someone anon.

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>>170889634
This is the best /meg/ meme, even better than BT foam.

>>170889634
No, Ms. "Chew The Blue". We were just discussing how disgusting and how unloyal they are

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>>170889870
I really was, anon. I really was. That final talk with him is amazing.
>mfw Garrus calls you an old friend

>>170889748
Seems pretty clear that the babby making part of mind melding is optional

I like to believe that's what happened, at least when you know Liara survived it all (and possibly Shep too) but would you really make a kid right before likely being wiped the fuck out? Perhaps Liara was confident in Shepard saving them, and this was her showing it - which also gave Shepard something more to fight for

>>170889870
>>170889979
Garrus turns into a murderhobo when you die, Liara refuses to give up on you even when it's apparent you're a braindead burnt corpse.

Just saying, Garrus is close- but Liara really goes all out.

>>170889702
It's not blue, that's for sure.

>>170889634
I hope you get your face bit off by an out of control space raptor

So did anyone else completely ignore the persuade options with TIM in ME3? I had them available, but flat-out chose to ignore them because I refused to make peace with him, paragon or not. I also had the sole survivor background. I thought shooting him was infinitely more satisfying than making him pull a Saren. And his last few lines about Earth were pretty nice.

Though I did assume that was why Anderson died my first time through.

>>170890042
She did give up on you. She only retrieved Shepard's body for burial and very specifically argued against trying to bring Shepard back.

>>170889870
He was a good friend, the fact that he chimped out after Shepard died proves it

>>170889590
>moves some of her shit into your apartment for you in Citadel DLC
>pretty much confirms she wants to move in with you
It wasn't even a big deal and you only overhear Liara talking about it to glyph, but goddamn did that give me a dopey smile.

>>170890142
Reminder that he threw his life away because he thought Shepard was gone and Liara didn't tell him jack even though she knew Shepard would come back.

>>170889590
>Who is Garrus

>>170890142
>punisher style guerrilla war against the scum of the galaxy is chimping out

what the fuck is going on with the internet

>>170890125
The fuck? She's the one that gets your body to Cerberus. Did you play ME2 or read the comic series?
>I knew Cerberus would use you for their own business. And I let it happen. Because I couldn't let you go.
All Liara wanted was to get Shepard back.

>>170887256
It's true. He was the first writer to apologize publicly on Twitter and he admitted he was angry too about the way the ending had been handled. Probably one of the biggest reasons that prompted him to go back to Dragon Age.

Can we all just agree that Garrus, Tali, and Liara were the top 3 squadmates? Granted they have the unfair advantage of playing major roles in all 3 games. Liara might not have been a party member but LotSB was longer than any ME2 party member's ship dialogue, recruitment mission, and loyalty mission combined.

>>170890261
I read the comic series, but apparently you did not. She agreed to retrieve the body for Cerberus before she ever learned out about the Lazarus Project. She only learns about it at the end of the comic. And when she does, she says that's not what she brought Shepard's body back for, and tells Miranda that they really should just let Shepard stay dead.

In other words she just flat-out lied to you.

>>170890253
Liberals took over and defend criminals from consequences. That;s why they latch onto the scum in Omega and trues to demonize Garrus every chance they get.

>>170890375
I'm more inclined to believe the games over the shitty comics.

>>170890383
No, becoming space-punisher is chimping out when the alternative was going back to C-SEC and fixing them inside

>>170890375
>The spin-off comics > the source material
Okay

>>170889979
It was great, even among the great talks at the end with most of the squaddies his will always stick out to me, both as a friend or as a romance.

>>170890042
That just seems oddly clingy especially if you didn't Romance. Also what >>170890142 said. What did Garrus do? He followed your example, and did what the fuck needed to be done and started murdering the shit out of criminals. Renegade, or Paragon I just can't help but be proud, even if it went south. Fuck I bet if it didn't go south, he'd still follow you to go kill the collectors even if he had shit going on, fuck he'd probably bring as much of his team as he could in that scenario, the ones that'd go for it.

>>170890409
You don't have to "trust" either. They're both canon. They don't contradict each other, they just reveal Liara as a liar. Which is perfectly in character for her given all the other information she obscures to make herself look better compared to Shepard's other friends.

>>170890432
>becoming Space Batman
vs
>becoming Space Gordon

and somehow the latter would be cooler.

>>170890432
To be fair c-sec needs a little corruption. I mean look how easy your life is when you came back and Bailey helps you out.

>>170890210
I-I'm sure she had a reason

>>170890475
Are Liarafags and Talifags still at war?

>>170890473
>Fuck I bet if it didn't go south, he'd still follow you to go kill the collectors even if he had shit going on, fuck he'd probably bring as much of his team as he could in that scenario, the ones that'd go for it.
Is there a single better "best friend" character in vidya?
>There's no Shepard without Vakarian
You're goddamn fucking right, Shepard.

>>170890581
Bailey was great, doesn't get enough credit as a cool side character. Was happy to see him come back in ME3.

>>170890602
What does Tali have to do with anything? I thought we were talking about the comic series that someone else here implicitly claimed to have read.

>>170890210
>Let's tell everyone Shepard's body is being worked on by a terrorist group
>Nothing could possibly go wrong

>>170890598
Unironically she probably just wanted Shepard alone and isolated to make her/him easier to befriend/seduce. That's the only real explanation for all her actions in the time skip like letting Garrus throw his life away, not telling Ash/Kaidan about the situation, and not informing the Alliance or media about anything so they all reasonably assume that Shepard faked his death and joined Cerberus.

>>170890683
She could at least give a hint to her friends to make sure they know Shep is going to be alright.

>>170890621
Really what has me on pause about Andromeda more than any technical issue we've seen etc. is the fact that Garrus won't be there.

>We'll probably never see a spin off on Omega where we play as him taking out various criminals

>>170890683

> Telling Garrus + Tali, Wrex and whatever surviving squad-mate you had is 'telling everyone'

ok

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>>170890683
>Garrus = Everyone
>not telling anyone and making it look like he faked his death to join Cerberus is better

Nice try.

>You now realize Garrus would dig through the rubble of the citadel bare handed till his fingers were bloody and raw just to pull Shepard out, apply some Medi-gel and take him/her to the closest medical facility to stabilize him/her

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>>170889413
Fucking kek

>>170890745
Or just to protect Shepard, if word got out that Cerberus were attempting to revive him then perhaps there would be forces interested in preventing that from happening

>>170890964
>You now realize that Garrus is well liked mostly because he's a bland, passive, and servile character who doesn't have any strong stances of his own so people just project onto him

>>170890821
>Telling Garrus + Tali, Wrex and whatever surviving squad-mate you had is 'telling everyone'
>Telling Tali
>Tali
>Trusting an alcoholic with your secrets

Bad idea, anon.

>>170891014
So she thought Garrus would tell the Collectors or what?

>>170891015
I've never seen someone so jealous of a video game character in a RPG that they would be so salty at them.

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>>170891064
Emergency induction port.

>>170890795
Same here. I loved most of the characters, but Garrus, Tali, and Liara were always my motivation to keep playing the game.

The lack of all three of them makes me extremely indifferent.

>>170891089
>being jealous of a servile beta

>>170891079
I don't think it was easy for her, but it's still a reasonable thing to do

Could've probably told Garrus tho

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>>170891064
>an alcoholic

>>170891123
Really there wasn't a squadie I hated in the OT. Even Jacob who is probably my least liked I didn't just hate.

I hope that despite the looks that the Andromeda squad has some good moments. Liam seems fun.

Plus if you can have Arguements that aren't completely relationship ruining ala the one they had in the loyalty mission stream might make for some good moments I hope.

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>>170891123
You will get BeepBeep and you will love it, or else

>>170891220

It would be nice to be able to chastise crew-mates without making them hate you, yeah.

>>170891101
That scene's a whole lot less funny when you remember that Tali's drinking herself into a stupor despite the health risks because what she saw at Horizon was basically the straw that broke the camel's back of her last three years of constant combat, tragedies, and horrors.

>>170891184
Tali gets wasted all the time. There's at least 3 occasions where she's drunk talking to someone on the intercom if you listen in. And in the Citadel DLC, even in the "quiet" party, she's still hammered in the bathroom.
>Not a single other party member, even the expected ones like Zaeed or Wrex, drink this hard

Pretty sure Tali's got a problem.

>>170891290
Imagine if they put in hate fucking as one of the romance options since they mentioned flings and shit if any of the dynamic stuff pans out.

Now that could be funny.

Why is there still no footage of the character creation?

>>170891290
Peebee deserves to get beat after that bullshit she pulled with the escape pod

>>170891319
What happened on Horizon again?

>>170891349
Because of NDA's

Apparently you can create some Saints Row-tier monstrosities though, I'm looking forward to genderqueer Ryder meme material

>>170891220
>Even Jacob who is probably my least liked I didn't just hate
The way I see it, Jacob's perfectly likeable unless you're playing femshep and romanced him in ME2. In only 6 months, after saying how much he loves Shepard etc., while she's stuck on Earth he falls for another girl and knocks her up.

Seriously Jacob, what the fuck? That's cheating of the highest calibur. It's like they were trying to make him the black stereotype, it's hilarious.

>>170891319
Oh yeah it's pretty dark when you get to the stuff behind it.

That's what makes it great though there's some darker tones to it, but it manages to be...at least in some way slightly light in a game that's mostly pretty fucking depressing.

>>170891328
You know, usually I don't white knight for Tali and be a Tali nigger, but I can kind of understand it, she's gone though allot of shit in the last year or so.

Her team gets wiped out by Geth, her dad dies and she's nearly bannished (or is bannished) from her people, her people then nearly get wiped out in a war with the Geth, all the meanwhile sentient life a crossed the Galaxy is on the brink of being wiped out.

I doubt she had a problem between ME1 and 2, but I can understand why she does it in ME3.

>Kaiden acts like an insufferable cunt in ME2 and 3
>Find out he's Canadian
>Suddenly it all makes sense why he acts the way he does because he's A FUCKING LEAF!

>>170891418
Horizon was where Sanctuary was.

Where Cerberus were slice and dicing refugees to build their army.

>>170891457
>genderqueer
The fuck does that even mean? Is that actually a thing?

>>170891319
Niggah what? She was drinking because she was salty as fuck that Miranda's better than her at daddy issues.

>>170891515
Well anon you know what gender means and you probably know what queer means so put it together.

>>170891470
Yeah he's likable but there just isn't much there to make him stand out sadly. Cheating thing is hilarious. I guess Bioware figured no one really cared. Also on the other hand his romance did kind of feel like a fling compared to others, so I kind of like that he moved on.

>>170891328
She gets drunk once after Sanctuary and once during the Citadel party, and most certainly because she's not a hardended alcoholic and can't hold her liqour.

So, still waiting for them proofs.

>>170891480
why didn't i see kaiden in 2 and 3? something wrong with my games?

>>170891512
Oh right. Man that part was so forgettable for me.

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>>170889870
>>170889979
>>170890042

Honestly, the more I think about it, I'd probably take a full spin-off game where you play as Garrus and learn his story on how he became Archangel and what happened to his Omega squad over the two years Shepard was dead over Andromeda anyday.

>entire game is just garrus slaughtering criminals with his rag-tag gang of murderhobos

Imagine.

>>170891328
By ME3 she drinks to numb the pain rather than talking to her friends or boyfriend about her deep-seated emotional issues (for example, her SB dossier letters to the families of her dead comrades and brief reflection on everyone she'said lost at the end of Rannoch), because she has a low sense of self-worth and is conditioned to always put others' needs before her own. Which is why she's always asking Shepard if he's alright in 3, always brushes off him asking if she's alright, and is the first to suggest talking to Liara after Thessia.

It's sad desu.

>>170891581
You made bad life choices.

>>170891581
probably you like traps more than gheys

>>170891480
>Saved Ashley in ME1, regretted it ever since
>Watch youtube videos of Kaidan's scenes to see what I missed, assuming it's better
>It's fucking nothing

Both of them sucked. I was really hoping Garrus would become your Spectre buddy, not one of those two. Seriously, why the fuck was Garrus not made a Spectre?

>>170891594
Just add the squadmates as SJW looking libtards that are the best at what they do and the really dangerous criminals are white males and you got the best selling game of 2017

>>170891594
>Hotline Omega

>>170891646
He was going to be a Spectre after ME1 if you encouraged him along the Renegade path. He quit and went to Omega soon after Shepard died.

>>170891594
I've wanted it to happen for awhile. It could still have squad mechanics, it can intro some new things to suit it, maybe investigation shit now and then (not constantly) world would need some tweaking since you'd be on one station but they could make a pretty cool world, and I always liked omega, shady underbellies in sci fi are my thing, always reminded me of a mix of Mos Eisley and how LA looked in Blade Runner.

>>170891646
His father fucked his chances and he went on his whole vigilante thing instead of applying in 2.

>>170891515
Basically Mental Illness + Narcissism + Snowflake Syndrome

>>170891646
Wanna know something funny? They were going to add a "balls hard but doable if you don't suck ass" scenario where you can save both ashley and kaiden, even made audio files for it that was buried but didn't do it because they figured the players were getting enough content for their money and didn't want to do the "extra work".

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>>170891693

>>170891696
I mean it's pretty apt given the beat down he put on at least one of the people he killed during his tenure.

Indecisionfag here, ultimately ended up picking control.

Couldn't stomach killing billions of sapient geth programs because -maybe- something will go wrong eventually with Reaper-Shep, and his paragon speech is pretty optimistic. At the very least if something does eventually go horribly awry, the fact that the stargazer is around to talk about him indicates that it'll have been long enough that people will have gotten plenty of time to figure out Reaper tech and have something resembling a fighting chance, like a long-running refusal ending.

They leave so much up to interpretation that the ending doesn't really matter that much, anyway.

>>170891646

Eh, Kaidan in ME3 is at least more interactive with your team and generally feels more like a positive presence on the ship. Tranny Ash just gets drunk and passes out on the floor.

Plus if we're talking purely gameplay, Kaidan is much more useful to have around than Ash.

>>170891816
>sapient geth
lol

>>170891594
I still want my C-SEC detective prequel

Put a young Garrus in it as well, maybe you were the one influenced his loose canon ways

>>170891646
He could've served as an intelligent agent or whatever if he wanted to make a difference, being down in the muck guns blazing was an outlet for aggression and left little time alone with his thoughts; which ultimately is what he wanted

>>170891816
>They leave so much up to interpretation that the ending doesn't really matter that much, anyway

This Anon. You could pick whatever the hell you want when it comes down to it and then pretend your own ideal version of it happened because we're never gonna see the fruits of it.

>>170891816
>prepping organics for the synthetic bull
you fucked up anon

>>170891857
>Citadel Noir

Honestly behind the Archangel spin off, this is my second most wanted one. Play as one of the earliest Human agents to really work your way up in C-Sec or something could be interesting.

>>170891816
>Couldn't stomach killing billions of sapient geth

You played yourself, Geth are bad news. Have you learned nothing of the dangers of AI from playing through the games?

>>170891015
The characters who have strong opinions of their own and butt heads with Shepard like Jacob, James, and Ashley are almost universally disliked.

>>170891961
T. Catalyst

>>170891982
When does Jacob butt heads with you? I don't even remember him getting that testy on Renegade runs.

>>170891860
Just play through both and who gives a fuck.

All of the endings suck and make no sense, so it shouldn't really be a hard choice, just experience all of them. Do a schrodinger's ending.

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>>170889634
No, I am going for my own species, birdo.

>>170891816
>because -maybe- something will go wrong eventually with Reaper-Shep
Something _will_ go wrong. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Nobody's a hero forever. Nobody, no matter how paragon. There is a 0% chance that Shepard will always be a kind mecha-god. As the galaxy changes, so will the people. And they won't always want exactly what mecha-god Shepard wants. He'll be forcing what he believes is right because hey, he's a pacifist god, he must be right. Constantly.

A system like that WILL fail. It's just a matter of when.

>>170888261
Such as? Not the fanfics, but the general premise of their endings. I like good headcanon.

>>170891693
>you got the best selling game of 2017
I thought you all said that SJW games always flopped.

>>170892214
Shepard's directive is to protect the many, so what if he decides the best course of action to continue protecting the many is for the reapers to fuck off or kill themselves?

The point is that we'll literally never know because Bioware intentionally made everything ridiculously open.

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>>170891816
>Reapers completely get away with killing trillions upon trillions of lives for millions of years with no mercy or consideration
>Reaper-God Shepard will eventually go bad, even if it takes a few millennia, and begin the "cycle" again

Nice job, anon.

>>170892214
Also it's mentioned in Paragon Reaper-Shep's speech that it wants people to be in control of their destinies, so there's that. Reaper-Shep isn't just "I want to control everything and make everything nice," directives are decided by what your Shepard believes in.

It ultimately ties back into "These endings weren't thought through at all and are either bitter or don't make sense"

>>170891816
I don't see how anyone could pick something other than destroy. We played ME1 to destroy Sovereign. We played ME2 to destroy the strongest Reaper outpost. The entirety of ME3 was preparing to destroy the reapers. We spent a good 120 hours of gameplay devoted to destroying the Reapers.

I did not play through those 120 hours, with all intent on killing the Reapers, just to let the fuckers walk away.

>Jaal thread nearly has a thousand pages on the BSN
Can someone explain this?

>>170889198
>Krogan live for about as long

In practice, yes. However, I believe it is stated in lore that nobody knows how long Krogan can live until death by old age. They all wind up dying of unnatural causes.

I think there was a codex entry that stated that before their advent of gunpowder, the number one cause of desth for Krogan was being eaten by a predator. After, it was death by gunshot.

Drak might already be older than almost any Asari in history.

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>>170892314
>The Catalyst, the only driving force behind that genocide, is for all intents and purposes dead. He's been erased. Any hatred towards the Reapers-as-in-the-ships is ill-placed, because they weren't in control of their actions whatsoever- they were controlled by an AI that's quite literally broken.
>Making a dumb assumption that the worst possible thing will happen because similar things happened a few times just like the starchild's motivations for harvesting organics over and over

>>170892332
My point is, yes, at that time Shepard's a nice god. At that time. We hear his speech, okay, cool, he's a good guy right now. But do you really think he'll give the exact same speech in 2,000 years?

Anyone that romanced a squadmate and picked something other than destroy is a horrible person. Your waifu/husbando's happiness should matter more than the geth's existence.

>>170892251
That's because they use human minorities but if you're using aliens with SJW themes like heavy tattoos of video game pop culture, retarded piercings and super colorful hair/markings/whatever you can get away with it. You can even justify it because Liara said that all the aliens view humanity as a bully and that just give reason to kill as many white men as possible because cerebus uniforms were white and the Illusive man was white.

>>170886545
seriously that cumdrip, what were they thinking?

>>170892297
Fuck
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>>170892591
>tattoos and piercings are now SJW
What?

>>170892424
>Why destroy what can be compared to nukes when you can control all the nukes for yourself and point them at everyone so they all play nice?
Control is the only answer.

>>170892484
The Catalyst wasn't a broken AI, it was working perfectly.

It was made by huge assholes, and shortsighted ones at that.

>>170892493
The Catalyst didn't change in hundreds of thousands of years. There's zero basis for the Shep-Reapers changing their view or going bad.

>>170889504
I think it's implied that only with a strong, wise and steady leader like Wrex can the Krogan remain compatible with galactic society (and even then, Wrex is mortal and even he brags about imminent expansion). If it's the other guy, he's already talking about settling scores with the galaxy, bound to get genophaged again. Or just genocided.

>>170892643

Someone doesn't get out much.

>>170892719
It's funny because all these things that are now considered SJW here have always been used far more by pornstars, even the side cut.

>>170892484
By that logic black people should not be held responsible for all the murder, theft and rapes that they do because "white government funnels drugs and poverty into black communities". The reapers can't give back all the lives they've taken over the cycles. Hell you watched crew members fucking melted to make a human reaper. You have to be a special kind of sicko to just let that slide. Or a massive cuck. Like the cuckiest cuck in the cuckverse.

>>170892493
There is a very large amount of things that could happen in 2,000 years-or-probably-more.

>Shepard is brought to the conclusion that 'the many' with flourish best without Reaper intervention
>Exceedingly close contact with reapers over the years gives organics plenty of time to study reapers and learn of their weaknesses, advance their own technology, etc
>Shepard-Reaper, specifically stated to have the memories and ideals of the original Shepard, allows installation of a failsafe to be used if Reapers no longer act in the best interests of the many- as he would understand the threat a reaper armada could pose better than anyone else
They leave it very, very open.

It's the same with Destroy where nothing says "the Leviathan race comes back and promptly enthralls everyone" but hey, it could conceivably happen.

>>170889870
Garrus isn't an ally, he's a minion.

>>170892643
>totally leaves out "heavy tattoos of video game pop culture" and "retarded piercings"
Wasn't there a world of warcraft reference in mass effect 1?

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>>170892814
Videogame tattoos aren't an SJW thing, they are an autism thing.

>>170889815
Shepard, post-Cerebrus augmentation.

>>170892750
That's not even vaguely similar, anon. Direct mental control isn't the same as being lead towards an action by circumstance because that's still ultimately a choice. Harbinger was literally directly controlled by the Catalyst, in the end. There's no justice to be had.

Imagine if your sister was mind controlled by a supervillain into murdering a family and she had literally no control over her actions, would you call for her execution as eagerly?

>>170892782
What's stopping a rat face politician like Uldina from rising to power through lies and deception and using the reapers against all opposition or destroying the reapers so his own personal army can take over?

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>>170892838
They're both the same thing down to the very core. The same way transgenderism is a mental illness no matter how you slice it. Same shit different package. Also I said heavy ones like the ones that get the tattoo all overt heir neck, chest, sleeves and legs from hip to ankle.

>>170892883
A government like that emerging could happen in a post-destroy ending anyway, man.

>>170892873
Yes, yes I would because I lost my gran, my mom and my pops. I don't know about you but I love my parents because I appreciate all they provided for me and the sacrifices they made for me as a kid growing up so my sister must be destroyed because she's a liability and can possibly be used again. In fact if she's left alive because of muh fee fees and she dindu nuffin using her to launch another attack due to such lax precautions would be an ideal choice.

Can someone post pictures of Cora's butt.
Thank you.

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>>170892636
Jokes on you, I like manjaws

Banging BeepBeep would be soiling the memory of Liara, she seems annoying as fuck

>>170892873
That implies the Reapers themselves are mindless, and that without control to make Shepard move them, or synthesis to alter their minds to allow it, they're just metal statues. Thus, who gives a fuck about destroying them? I wouldn't feel too bad blowing up statues to save the galaxy.

>>170892446
Women?

>>170892954
>Forgetting the fact Shep will still be around and literally no one would dare fucking with Shep.

>>170892873
Harbinger was well aware what it was doing. The reapers have limited freedom but they are very much aware of what they are doing with the harvest cycles. To claim otherwise is pure lunacy.

>>170893070
The Geth are basically just people if allowed to live after Rannoch, though. And there are billions of them.

>>170893160
Leviathan also states that Harbinger loathes what it became, but had no option as it was being controlled.

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>>170893058
She was pretty hot.

>>170893203
>Leviathan also states that Harbinger loathes what it became, but had no option as it was being controlled.
Proof? None of the Leviathans said that during my gameplay.

>>170893204
Didn't she also go as Samara to cons?

>>170893203
>The Geth are basically just people

I wonder who could be behind this post