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Dev Server Edition

>Official Site:
http://warthunder.com/

NOTE: You get given a premium aircraft for your first victory in game!
Need a faster download? Switch Language in Launcher.

>Wiki with Release Trees and General Tactics:
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php

>Fan created skins, missions, locations, fictions etc...
http://live.warthunder.com/ (Warning! Pure weeaboo and horsefucker autism abound)

>Ammunition Types
http://wiki.warthunder.com/index.php?title=Category:Ammunition

>All the Air RB/SB maneuvers you would want to know + Engine thingamabobs:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=200974026

>Every Airplane Instrument Panel translated
http://www.mediafire.com/view/q4nybrogygdchdb/ND's_aircraft_reference_guide.pdf

>Youtube Channel with Tutorials and Gameplay Videos
https://www.youtube.com/user/galahadgawain/playlists

>Steam community:
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/warthundervg

>vg chatroom
search vg, pass is memes

>Joystick Comparisons:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/multimedia/display/joystick-roundup_8.html

>DIY Headtracking
http://www.pcgamer.com/how-to-build-your-own-ir-head-tracker/
http://www.ebay.com/itm/161710468074

>Chart displaying weapon effectiveness against ground units
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H1_cSnYKSKbU6Giql2bMDdFoXefeq6ENWuvjQbtquMs

>Sound Mods:
http://www.moddb.com/mods/b0riss-sound-mod/forum/thread/support-for-sound-mod-in-warthunder-165153
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First for IS OF BALANCE)))))))
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I WANT THAT A-26!
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So BnZ is basically attacking from an altitude advantage, take a few potshots at the enemy but go back up if you failed to kill him?
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>>170811182
yes
but then they hover up to you and kill you )))))
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>>170811548
youre a terrible pilot if youre letting that happen
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Anyone else got problem with spawning? I can't spawn for a second time toady becouse nothing happens when I click To Battle
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>>170809050
no, they're of little use, and not worth perfomance loss. Also no stealth belt for them.
20 mm is great killer, accurate like hell too, stick to it.
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>>170812240
>t. spitfire pro
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>>170810556
New A-26 only seems to be good at killing tonks and thats it desu.
16 rockets tho
no pure APIT belt too for some reason
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did anyone see how close they can get a shell to land aiming the Sturmpanzer all the way up?
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>>170812582
did they fix the HVAR accuracy? I noticed they were much more accurate on the dev server compared to the normal game...
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>>170812697
Can it really be used as artillery?

Up to what tier is it effective like that?
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>>170812697
Is that the TD with the 150mm?
That's not going to be a premium is it?
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>>170812870
its not premium
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>RU251
>extremely mobile, fastest tank in game
>6.7
>320mm pen HEATFS and HESH
>at 6.7
this is going to make that BR worse than it already is
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Who IGLA here?
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>>170812859
>Can it really be used as artillery?
>Up to what tier is it effective like that?
60mm pen HE and 185mm pen HEAT
it's effective on anything short of the Maus with HE and it can probably pen a Maus with HEAT
>>170812870
nope
comes after the Panzerjager I
>mfw
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sturmpanzer can fucking aim like this
that's gotta be within 1km
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when?
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>"Okay I know how to BnZ I think."
>FuckmeWulf 190 A4
>go up to 5000, notice none of my teammates are there
>only a couple of spitniggers and a P-51
>end up having no kills in the match
At least I survived.
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>>170812732
Yeah all rockets are really fucking accurate now, hardly any dispersion
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>>170814026
fucking finally, no more of this
>
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>>170813206
So does it have any new artillery mechanics or is it just a funky td?
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>>170815563
currently it's just a funky TD
but soon anon
SOON™
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When is it usually a good time to get out of a dive in terms of speed?
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>>170815667
Gaijin didn't do anything to make the dumb rocket tanks interesting or viable, why should I believe they'll give these vehicls a different treatment
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>>170816205
there is no definitive answer to that question
you generally want to be diving as little as possible
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anyone got webms of new rockets not spreading hilarious amounts?
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>>170816205
1000kmh
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solid AP damage has been buffed in 1.67
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>>170818056
from my experience only high tier AP
i might b wrong tho
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>>170818056
https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/355104-m103-is-back/&
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>>170813206
Probably as fun ass brummbär
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when?
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>>170818354
>play bore blunder
>complain when others do it
you're probably first person to get autism from vaccines
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>>170818056
so there is a chance that the T34 actually gets some useful solidshot as well?

how about memebounces?

>>170818498
boreblunder!
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>>170818412
Never
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>>170809717
What are new top tier tanks germs could have? The only thing that comes to mind are annother leo 1 variatns but in the end they all have shitty armor. IS there any tank that could match soviets and brits in terms of armor?
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>tfw addicted to grinding
How do I just have """"fun""""
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> Want a T32 at 6.7?
>Buy T29.

>Want a better IS-2 1944 at 7.0?
>Buy IS-6.

> Want to pen IS-6 with germans frontally?
>Buy RU251.

)))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>170821670
RU251 will cancer up 6.7 if it really drops at that BR
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>>170821670
kys shill
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>>170821807
new p2w meta ))))))))))
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>>170809717
Trading my WT account which has many tier 5s and premiums for a decent osrs account or 100m. If interested go here to look at all the unlocks or to discuss trade https://discord.gg/bXuPWNS
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>>170821485
How the fuck can you be addicted to it? I fucking hate griding, also what's the best way to grind? I just want jets.
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>>170822351
If there isn't an event or some bullshit I have hardly any motivation to play the game regularly.
Get an OP premium or talisman a plane that is really good at its BR. That's it really. And play RB.
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>>170821485
Go play custom battles with your spaded vehicles where you can't grind
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>>170822595
Okay let me say it again.
What is the best way to grind if you're poor.
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>>170821485
play the most fun vehicle, i grinded out leopard 1a1a1 380k rp without really knowing it. Used brummbar tho
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>>170822957
Save up your pennies for some good goy birds for a premium.
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>>170823194
war thunder shill doesnt know you can get GE without paying

Will shills ever learn ??
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>>170821485
bop fools with imbalanced tier 2/3 vehicles
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>>170822957
Wait for events, sometimes they hand out GE or prem planes, well at least they used to.
Other than that, hope for a talisman from a battle trophy (I heard battle trophies are more frequent at lower tiers, not sure tho) and/or just play with a undertiered or OP plane.
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Second tank model I've ever made, how should I paint it?
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>>170823532
Post war French colours
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>>170823315
Have any recommendations? Been playing Tier 4/5 for way too long.
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>>170823532
Chrome Dazzle
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>>170823532
>rubber tracks
>gluemarks

i remember when i was there
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>mfw I only play arcade air battles
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>>170824102
>mfw you get some of the most fun at tier II and III
>regardless of who you play as, everyone can turn on a dime, dive, duck, and do what they please

The only thing better than low tier planes is low tier tanks.
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>playing tanks
>module grind is taking forever
>check tank
>it's only tier 2

What the fuck when did it get this bad?
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>>170823753
here are some fun tank lineups.
I could recommend some planes too.
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>>170824572
Racking up large kill counts helps a little bit, but Tier 5 will make you fucking cry, especially if you're rolling in Kraut cans.

Leopard stock is pain.
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>people climb to 6k at 2.0 BR
well back to jets
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>>170824715
>no locust on the americans
Could be improved.
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As it stands Gaijin will have to either change the objective of ground forces completely or face the death of the game.
There's no balance or thought in this game, the matches are always steamrolls and there's no struggle towards chokepoints like other multiplayer games, the objective of capturing the point always gets taken by the team that has the lead in kills
also armored cars when??
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>>170824830
If I had another slot, it would either go to a locust or the M3 gun truck.
I kind of want to use the 105 sherman as well, but I've never gotten around to it.
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>>170824715
>tanks
kek
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>>170823881
and you can't even see the staples
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>>170825192
most tier 1-2 planes are fun in themselves, the bad thing about low-tier plane rb is that one faggot on the enemy team who gets lost or sits on the airfield while all your teammates crash attempting to kill pillboxes and tanks with their MGs
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HOLY FUCK THE ZERO IS SO FUN WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS
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>>170821485
you get every vehicle

every
single
one
of
them
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is it good yet or do spits make the tier unplayable
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>>170825787
kys weeb
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>>170825787
I've only been flying the bf 110 for a while now.
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>>170825976
The 152 will never be good, don't hold your breath anon.
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>>170825984
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>>170823828
/egg/ crossposter here. All Dazzle everything all the time.
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>getting one shot everytime I go realistic on top of taking 30 minutes to actually get to a fight
this game is seriously hard to love
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r2y2s are attackers right?

so why do they get bomber spawns if they're attackers

what is gaijin's reasoning for this?
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I love how boats aren't even out yet and they already suffer of the soviets having more units than everyone and time-traveling cold war trash
Gaijin really never lets us down on letting us down
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>>170826304
They're bombers

Hard to use airspawn fantasy ricepaper UFO "bombers" that have only 1 bomb and 4 nose mounted cannons.
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>>170825787
Fly Mod 11 for maximum memes. Easily the best Zero in RB if you can be conservative with ammo.
>>170825976
What's the name of this Vietnamese cartoon?
Slenderplane is ok-ish, don't expect miracles to happen though. You outturn Spits at mid to high speeds and outroll them, but that's all you have. Griffons are truly the cancer of this tier. If you want to fly it, remember to take high fuel loads (45 min or 1h) so the CoG is placed better, giving you better turntime.
>>170826304
""""attackers"""" """""bombers"""""
I play a lot of Japan and R2D2s were one of the biggest mistakes regarding vehicle additions. Literally nobody wanted to have this paper PoS, not even the hardcore weebs.


Does anyone here own the La-11? How much worse than the La-9 is it? I've just seen that it's only at 5.3, thinking about being a good goy.
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>>170826745
The Cockpit. 3 episode series. First one is about a Ta 152 pilot, second one is about a kamikaze pilot, third one is guys on motorcycles.
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>>170826745
It's called "The Cockpit"
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>>170826745
>not even the hardcore weebs

Excluding all of those who are actually abusing the "POS" right?
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>no Entwicklung because "too similar to units already in the game"
>adds impossible paper designs instead
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>the mk vi was NOT the British secondary reserve tank
Really bursts my bubbles
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Who /J7W2/ here?
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>>170827748
GRENADE LAUNCHERS WORKING WHEN???????????
WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????WHEN??????????
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>>170822351
>I fucking hate griding, also what's the best way to grind? I just want jets.

I know that feel

I recently got myself set on the goal of at least the P-80 and first Panther but I've got a long fucking way to go.

Whats worse is don't have money to spare for premium so an already mind numbingly frustrating grind becomes even more so, earning no more than 2k RP a match, mostly just 1k.

It took me 2 days at 6-7 hours of playing to unlock the F6F-5N and its shit

I fucking hate this game sometimes
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>>170824102
too bad high tier arcade turned into shit past 1.59, and Gaijin would rather spit on Lenin's preserved body, than admit they fucked up
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>>170828297
To be fair.. I'd rather spit on a communist than do a lot of things
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>tfw fell for the "M103 will always be shit" meme
>abandoned researching it and started researching the M163 brrrt
>now the shitty T34 is going to roadblock an actually interesting vehicle
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>>170828539
oops ))
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>>170828297
That's why I don't play past rank 3 anymore.
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>>170828394
Well you're not gaijin so thanks for the irrelevant comment.

If you are, please fuck off and get back to fixing the game.
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>>170828146
I got premium on Victory Day, when it was 50% off, played about month before that.
Now I have all T1-T4 in German and American lines, T1-T3 Brit, and most T1-T4 Soviet, plus some tanks in all trees. Also several premium vehicles via warbonds
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>>170829080
early T4 is ok too, generally you don't want to go 4.7 or above because you almost always end up sucked into 5.0+ battle filled to brim with Do's and strategic bombers
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Do tracers do more damage than stealth belts for US 50 cals?
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>>170829662
>he doesn't like hunting Do's

5.3 to 5.7 is as high as I go though.
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comfy
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajCisdmhhT0
when
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>>170830189
coords?
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Has Gaijin's matchmaking system ever been not shit?

There's something wrong with my biplanes being matched with 3.0's.
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>>170813229
>50k repair price )))))))))))))))))))
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>>170829662
Do's and strategic bombers are perfectly manageable if you use the Yak-9's with the 37mm cannon, the J7W, and the BF109's with the 3 108 cannons.
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>>170830932
>arcade

What's your lineup?
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>>170828146
Grinding air is easy as fuck though, I can do about two planes per day on a good day without premium
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>>170824715
update: replace chaffee with 105, HEAT is f u n
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>>170831320
I can to until you reach tier 4. Actually spading tier 4 is also very time consuming.
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>>170830185
it's all fun and games, when battles don't end under 5 minutes
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>>170831325
>shoot HEAT into t34
>visor eats the whole shell
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>>170831518
odd, my HEAT eats the whole crew instead
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>>170831435
This is why there should be bomber limits. No more than 1/4 the team.
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How hard is it to design spawns that are hard to fucking camp? Just force tanks to turn back or go out of bounds and explode if they drive into an enemy spawn, how can such an incompetent company even retain a player base
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>>170831601
>what are attackers
>what are strike fighters
plus with time like that, I doubt any plane reloaded anyway
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What do you do while climbing?
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>>170831730
spawncamping is a feature comrade )))))))
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>>170831435
>yfw he probably spent more time in que than in game
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>>170825976
>supposedly a super top tier kraut ace
>misses shots like that
>attacks a B29 from behind
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>>170831730
>make tanks in spawn invisible for a minute, or until they leave spawn area
>spawn campers can't even tell when to get behind cover, until protection wears off
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>>170831857
No need to climb as a slav)))))
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>>170831325
Nice, only 309 more perfect games until you research that M48A1
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>>170832218
)))
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>>170831982
the b29 wasn't expecting it
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>>170823753
Ho-Ro
Sturmpanzer II when it comes out
Flakpanzer I
Anything with a german short 75
T-35
Tier 1 is the most fun tier
fucking prove me wrong
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>>170832346
Question, do you gain more experience by fighting in higher tier battles? Or should you always stick to units that have the talisman? I'm trying to grind out two tigers and it's killing me inside.

Also, why do people mix planes into their lists? Can use use planes in tank battles? I thought the game just gave you whatever bomber or fighter randomly in tank battles.
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>tfw just had a 10 minute dogfight with ta 152s in my P-51D-20 NA
>ended up shooting two of them down until a another ta dove on me and shot me down
most fun i've ever had in this game
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>>170832918
Forgot to mention, I am talking about planes. Thanks anyways, I guess.
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>>170833224
I think you might get more depending on tier, but it's negligible
You mainly want to focus on the reward percent the tank rakes in, it's available on the stat card
>>170833395
Well, I don't play planes much, but one that I do play for fun is the slav hampden
you barely ever get uptiered and retards engage you at super close range so you can just snipe out their piltos or engines with the rear fiddy
just watch your own pilto, he has narcolepsy and often falls asleep at the drop of a hat
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>>170833224
You can use planes in tank battles.
You get massively reduced RP for researching vehicles more than a tier away from the vehicle you're using.
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>be brown cheeto in brown map
>sneak up behind the enemy
>5 kills and nobody saw me until a plane bombed me
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>>170832918
Have to agree. My 1.3 lineup rapes everyone:
-Sd.Kfz 140/1
-Pz.38(t) A
-Pz.3 B
-Pz4 C
-Flakpanzer 1

Whatever the 4C doesn't kill the 140/1 or the Flakpanzer finishes. Don't even need the 3B or 38(t) A.
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>>170833224
You only get random planes in ground AB, in RB you have to bring your own.
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>>170831169
One 2.3 and four 1.3s. I'm facing off against people with
>3.0
>3.0
>3.0
in their lineups.
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>>170833680
>I think you might get more depending on tier, but it's negligible
>You mainly want to focus on the reward percent the tank rakes in, it's available on the stat card

>>170833692
>You get massively reduced RP for researching vehicles more than a tier away from the vehicle you're using.

Okay, so as someone who's spent a whole day trying to get the Pz4 G should I be playing tier 4.3 to research my tiger tanks next or use my talisman tanks?

Also should I get the Stug3G before that so I at least have another 4.3 because I got the Flak88 and that thing is slow as shit and hard to hide around corners.
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>>170831895
that's literal definition of "jet" arcade. "Jet" in quote, because majority of both teams are B-29s and Tu-4s.
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>>170834417
talisman tanks
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>>170834325
In arcade you can do well even at a full uptier if you goad your opponents to make a dumb mistake and run away from opponents too smart to make dumb mistakes.

Pay attention to the location of your opponents and allies and get non-biplanes to turn with your biplanes. You'll win unless they're in a zero or early spit and turn with flaps.
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>>170834325
Get rid or the 2.3 and wait till you have more of them
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>>170834702
Unfortunately I'm playing against rocketships in biplanes and a single dual engine that can't climb for shit.
Not to mention I sat behind a lagg sticking 12.7 up his ass for almost a full minute and he didn't go down. So not really.
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>>170834325
I'm starting to wonder if PvP rating has something to do with it. I make my lineups always within 0.3 points of eatch other and I'm always fighting guys who are a whole tier higher than my highest tier, which should mean that I'm always the lowest tier player in all these games. It's kind of disparaging after a while because you're always playing the underdog who hides behind everything, and is always targeted first for being the easiest kill.
>>
>5 minute queue times for 10 minute matches

This is starting to not be worth it anymore.
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>>170834417
check stats in statcard, it says how much RP and SL vehicle brings home. Generally higher BR, more gains, but also harder battles.
You also get small boost of vehicle research if you research it using vehicle from the same branch.
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>>170834905
It isn't worth it anymore.

The game is shit.
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>>170834325
don't mix planes with very different BRs, because matchmaking doesn't average them, but uses your top vehicle.
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>>170834859
Don't bother using low caliber weapons against anything besides biplanes. Grind as quick as you can until you get a plane with at least two 20mm cannons.

I grinded the entire American tree in AB and most of the time I could only get assists rather than kills, and this was back when weapons were more deadly across the board, before they got nerfed.

>it was still better than playing in RB where American teams ensure you're always in an uphill battle
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>>170835281
I'd be more okay with that if it didn't rank me with people a full rating higher than my top vehicle.
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This is the sort of shit that makes me want to just not play anymore

Not without premium at least
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w h e n
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>>170835382
>arkaden
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>>170835382
thats what they want you to think
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>>170835050
Wow, I guess this explains why researching the 4G was such a slow crawl. Highest tier talisman tank I have is the Pz.3 J1. I guess I should just kill myself now, I'll be grinding tier 3.3 for a long long time.
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>>170835382
good goy
>>
if don't know if /wtg/ gives a shit about botes but there are files for 1970's ships in the game

pic related, here's the gun in action

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr0OcXst59k
>>
PAY

2

WIN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpcl_sjD4yA
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>>170835462
I'm switching between both modes to see which gets me more RP at the end

I think its RB though, I get at least minimum 1k RP usually there, but I get nothing if I die before getting to fight even, so its a long climb up, and in the end might result in nothing but wasted time.

>>170835538
>>170835604
Fuck off, how am I supposed to unlock planes in a reasonable amount of time like this, even when I do my best at RB I get at most 3k RP for a 50,000+ RP plane its fucking peanuts.

And losing a mission in RB means even less vehicle RP than losing in AB usually
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>>170836056
Play ec, ground pound. Free rp
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>>170835382
kills are good and well, but they're just half of your income. Other half is battletime, so time you spend in active combat.
You don't get much points if you iddle at 6000, or at edge of map waiting for easy kill.
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>>170836051
>bundebabby premium
>p2w
shocker
>>
>>170835376
I would say BR rating matters the least in Air AB out of all game modes. Against better planes you can still win with a altitude advantage, out-turning them, or forcing the to overshoot (depending on your plane). Even if those aren't options you can always run to your allies and make it a 2v1 or 3v1 fight.

You can't do that as much in ground forces where armor is so important, or air RB where you can't out-climb certain planes and your retard teammates spread out 10km apart by themselves. However the same uptiering problem persists in those modes.
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>>170835607
files for anti-ship missiles have also been found
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NLOS atgms when?
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>>170836302
fucking when?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KS-1_Komet
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>>170835565
Tier =/= BR
BR is what you use for matchmaking, and gains for most parts depend in it too.
Tier is now only for calculating penalty when using early vehicles to grind out lategame ones.
>>
Holy fuck why does the A6M2 have such worse stats than the A6M2 Mod. 11? Isn't the only change the addition of a tailhook? Does it add that much weight to drop the speed 30 km/h or is the stat card lying again?
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>>170836384
already in game
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>p-51d-20 easily keeps up with a ta 152 at 6000m
what the fuck
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>>170836489
The tailhook, folding wings and reinforced airframe to cope with the shock when hooking a carrier does add quite a lot of weight. It's why all the bong Fleet Air Arm planes are shit.
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>>170836206
>sim

I'm a mouse shitter
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>>170836218
also 3 kills in 12 minutes long battle is pretty bad
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>>170836725
>shitty cals have no killing power

No shit sherlock.
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>>170835281
Actually it's the highest BR minus 0.3 if the preset is say, a single 2.0 plus lots of 1.3s.
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>>170836667
ground punding in sim is easy
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>>170836292
>I would say BR rating matters the least in Air AB out of all game modes.
It matters a lot more when it's your 12.7's against 20mm cannons. I can't even bring down the higher tiers, even with sustained fire and constant hits.
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>>170836616
probably salt proofing too. It's the main reason why USMC helicopters are much more expensive than pretty much same helicopers used by the Army
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>>170836975
Your armament matters more but BR matters less. I have a 4:1 with the F-82E which is at 5,0 but I only used it in a 6.0 lineup, so sometimes I was even uptiered to 6.7.
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>>170836945
how do you groundpound if theres no markers in air sim
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w h e n
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>>170837272
>germans
never
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>>170837197
look at the map
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What is the quickest way to get crew xp points? Do you gain more the longer you stay alive? Is it depended on the BR of the vehicle you're playing?
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>>170837612
crew xp points are tied to how much RP you get in a battle

more RP = more crew xp
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>>170837797
What are the factors that contribute to RP?
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>>170838531
having a premium account and unit )))
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>>170836051
>shilka/KPVT can fuck that thing up with a 4 sec burst
>big as a whale
>wannabe light
>shells are obviously tweaked for the sake of more buyers
>7450 GE

Now why the fuck would anyone in his right mind spend all that dosh on a failed prototype? I guess they deserve to be ripped off for playing Germans.
>>
>call in artillery on where you think enemy tank is
>track - red
>commander - red

>call in artillery on spg market
>vehicle destroyed
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>>170838657
Other than that? Do you get more RP from splashing shit or from lawnmowing? Do you get more RP from spaded or non spaded planes?
>>
option to make your units not look like they've been through decades of battle when?
>>
>try to BnZ
>dive on plane
>he fucking turns and avoids me

How the fuck, this happens all the time

I dive at speed is that it?

He turns at the last second, into me, I cant even get off a shot and next thing he's on my fucking tail and gaining on me

what the fuck am I doing wrong
>>
>>170838657
>)))

what does this mean? seen someone use it twice here now. meaning the ")))" obviously
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>>170840013
It's all about getting the jump on them. You gotta anticipate which way they're gonna go. If you whiff it, just pull out and zoom climb. If he's turning, there's no way he's going to catch you unless you tried to turn with him. Pulling out and resetting the encounter is always going to be better than trying to get a desperate kill.
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>>170840013
Turning makes them bleed a lot of energy. If you boom and pull up as gently as you can you'll lose a lot less energy than them. Remember the more G's you are pulling the faster you are bleeding speed and the more energy you are losing.

in a boom and zoom do not turn, your only moves should be in the vertical, no horizontal movement unless it's very light so you don't drain a bunch of speed.
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>>170840614
Russian smiley. Here it's generally used ironically the same way XD is.
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>>170836409
>BR is what you use for matchmaking, and gains for most parts depend in it too.
>Tier is now only for calculating penalty when using early vehicles to grind out lategame ones.

What is the penalty for using tier 1 to research tier 3?

And why the fuck is it that when my entire lineup is BR 3.3 at least one nigger has a BR 4.3? This would clearly imply I'm the lowest BR in that game since it's matched to +/- 1 and you wouldn't have a 2.3 player matched against a 4.3.
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>>170841006
1. vehicle research goes down to half or 1/3rd
2, )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) other than that, possibly confirmation bias or you're just that lucky
>>
I swear if Gaijin doesn't increase vehicle research RP for AB and RB I'm gonna quit this fucking game
>>
what are some mechanic stuff you hope they add to the game soon?
>grenade launchers
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>>170842238
>2017
>Not even a hint of smoke launchers or smoke shells for tanks
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>>170842407
i understand that they don't add the launchers because russians don't have them and gaijin has no shame but smoke shells are the crux of slav zerg tactics
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>>170842238
better AI because I don't think PVP planes is for me
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>>170842519
????

Soviet vehicles had smoke screens, they just dumped diesel straight into the exhaust.
>>
>decide to not abandon karelia
>instantly regret it
hmmm
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>>170840614
Cyrillic keyboards lack a : key so they just do ))) instead.
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>>170836594
American planes are undertiered to make up for weaker armament
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>>170842898
Just play IL-2 or MS CFS3.
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>>170843384
NO
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>>170843150
More the fact that their planes usually require more than two brain cells to operate correctly.
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>>170843404
Keep eating shit then.
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>>170842962
>trying to force proud Soviet soldiers out of tank and cover to get hit by warcrime rounds to attempt cowardly nazi tactics
So how many death camps did you guard, Fritz?
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>>170843746
Wut? The smoke screen was an automatic dispenser. Press a button, boom, smokescreen.
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>>170843881
We're sending you to the gulag anyway, just so you're aware.
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>team is getting rolled
>"so who here is high?"
>>
DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO

TALK SHIT

WHEN YOU'RE OWNING ALL KINDS OF KIDS IN MY CAERNARVON
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>>170843967
>playing amerilards
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>>170842238
>head lights
>NV for tanks with the equipment
>actual ranging
>1st person gunners in SB
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>>170835402
What the fuck is that? A Willy 109 converted to an ersatz 262U4?
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>>170844913
Yep. Apparently it was a legitimate fallback if they couldn't make enough 262 airframes in time. Never saw use, though.
>>
So what do we know about the PvE mode?

Will it be pub servers, or only for squads/lone players?

I'm hoping they make it like the "All for One" event last year where your team of Russian tanks fended off waves of German enemy tanks up to Panther 2's and the Maus, to defend the artillery pieces
>>
>>170845305
>let's take a plane that has notoriously weak wings and landing gear and add heavy as fuck jets to the wings
What were they thinking? Why didn't they do it with the Fw190 or the Hornisse or something?
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>>170842238
>smoke grenades/shells/smokescreens
>researchable NV for tanks that historically had it
>headlights
>reload animations for tanks that have visible interiors + shell ejection animations for those tanks and shit like the T-62
>ERA
>player artillery(I know exactly how it can be correctly implemented)
>enduring combat for tanks
>airdropping tanks (for EC)
>accurate gunsights for those with documentation
>jap heavies
>captured french tanks
>more lend lease tanks
>strategic jet bombers
>AAMs
>HE-FS
>composite armor
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>>170846468
Airframes, not the wings. They would have taken everything from the cockpit back from the 109, bolted on a new nose and wings, and added tricycle landing gear.

As for why, which of those aircraft do you think they were producing more of?
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>>170846468
Well, it does appear to have proper 262 wings, just a 109 airframe. Probably due to commonness of them that made it easier to use a 109.
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>>170846858
>player artillery(I know exactly how it can be correctly implemented)

Do tell, anon.
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>>170842238
AA sights for spaags
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>>170847168
From what I recall it was the wings that were frail, which is the reason why the landing gear is mounted on the fuselage.

>which of those aircraft do you think they were producing more of?
Either shittastic G series 109s or knowing Goering and his infinite wisdom even more shittastic Ju88s, but they should've had at least a few spare Hornisse airframes.
>>
>>170847579
Germany had fuckall spare anything at that point. Bf 109s served the least amount of use for the needs of the Luftwaffe to intercept bombers, and so were a lot more available. Meanwhile the 190 and 410 were being used to try and stop the tide of allied bombers.
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>>170847390
two modes of aiming
normal, like you would with a normal gun, and artillery mode
artillery mode would probably only be available in RB, because I don't really know how to balance artillery in arcade with this way of implementation
but in artillery mode, think of it like how you aim in WoT, except on the mini map
you have where you're aiming and where your gun currently would land a shot, somewhat like the marker you have for where your gun is aimed and where you are aiming
how do you locate enemies?
whenever someone marks an enemy, they pop up on the mini-map like they do as of now, so you just aim for that general direction and drop a shell, and it isn't all too broken, because gun dispersion and the fact that the marker for the enemy tank isn't always directly on top of them
people would also want to shoot at an area someone designates as an enemy or something it would frankly be a better way of getting people out of hiding positions, and it would definitely discourage camping on cap zones, considering player artillery is almost guaranteed to be more accurate
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>>170847995
>like WoT
Fuck off.
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>>170848139
it's only like WoT in the lightest sense
you're both aiming from the vertical, but in WoT, you're doing it on the actual map
in this, you'd just do it on the minimap, considering people don't necessarily disappear just because they're not in your line of sight
learn to read
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>>170847995
Reality: people drive around shotgunning everything.
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>>170848498
enjoy doing that with 0 armor and a long as all fuck reload
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>>170849079
gib hanger mod
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>>170848620
Uh

So like most derp tanks then? Reload doesn't matter if you're guaranteed to kill whatever you hit.
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>>170848382
>no dude it's the minimap not the map it's totally different
It's the exact same.
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>>170843132
wait, how do they do ratios and odds then?
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>>170849714
not in RB
I mean how the fuck else are you supposed to aim as artillery
>>
>>170849335
>>170849079
wait thats not WT
>>
>>170849079
Was ist das?
>>
>>170849079
They added new ingame skins??
>>
Post some good ingame postfx settings please
>>
Reminder that this is the sexiest warplane ever created, and if you disagree you are a confirmed homosexual.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PviNlOwihIw
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>>170848620
> Long ass reload time and you defeat the purpose of an artillery barrage and render the support vehicle useless.

>Short reload time and you have a shot gunner

Pick one.

The only feasible way to implement them is to use them like people currently use heavy bombers and give them a mission to bomb bases and make it so that the other team has to hunt them from across the map.
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>>170850482
You could probably add in AI convoys and other light vehicles and add more depth to the game. If air battle has them I don't see why ground battle shouldn't.
>>
>>170849892
High aim toggle on the 3rd person control of your vehicle.

Alternatively, don't include player arty.
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>>170850035
its not WT
>>
>dev server filled to the brim with IS-6s
>every one cost 40 bucks

Gaijin's making bank with this update
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>>170839393
Pls respond
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>>170850934
>they've also got Ru 251s up the ass
>each is also close to $40
they really fucking are
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>>170850414
>not the doras
>>
how2 gook 20mm? it feels incredibly inaccurate to me and the fire rate is stupidly high.
>>
>>170851610
>research belts
>choose belts with most HEI/Frag
>upgrade cannons
>roflstomp anything in the sky
If you're having trouble with nip 20mm, the problem is with you.

It's funny because historically nip 20mm were complete dogshit
>>
>>170851113
>pay the equivalent of 1 (one) game for a premium vehicle after purchasing the necessary eagles

I fucking hate gaijins ultra greedy jewish business model.

Plus the fact that the GE amount per dollar is priced in the most jewish way possible, same with premium time/amount

pure jewry
>>
>>170851940
ok thanks i still have them stock so hopefully the improved belts will help, need to get used to the lower velocity too. right now i've dropped the convergence to 200m, almost all my fights in the zero seem to end up as 100-200m knife fights.
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>>170852221
uhh
>>
>>170852136
I mean that's how f2p games work, that's not just gaijew
and you can easily go throughout the game without owning any
buying shit does nothing more than increase the quality of life, which shouldn't matter if you don't want to spend money
>>
>>170849875
They probably do have the colon symbol but for typing you need to switch mode or do other clunky shit.
>>
>>170852221
How do I make the switch from tank AB to RB?

How the fuck do I learn to aim without the assist?

That's pretty much the only thing preventing me from switching, but I'm getting real sick and tired of AB giving away my position constantly and then getting sniped from behind a forest through a tiny hole in a mountain.

What else should I be aware of before switching?
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>teebs have all these cool planes to shoot tanks with but all their tanks suck dick
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>>170852221
300m is generally the magic number you want to converge at. You're still effective at 200m, but if necessary you can work all the way to about 450 without any real loss of efficiency.
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>>170853090
yeah i'm way too used to the center mounted cannons on the soviet and german planes so getting hits with the wing mounted ones is taking a bit to get used to.
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>>170852934
>posted from my post-war teapot shooting blackhole creating APDS every nanosecodnd
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>>170852404
time is money

>researching a plane without premium- 1 day
>researching a plane with premium- 5 hours

time = money
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What the loadout for the new A-26??
>>
>>170810495
Is that Gagarin?
>>
>>170852934
>all their tanks suck dick
>being bad
>not being good
>>170853636
>taking 1 whole day to research a plane
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>>170849079
WHAT IS THIS ???
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>>170853674
Some smaller loadouts, 4x1000lb, OR 14 HVARs
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>>170849079
>>170849079
>>170849079
>>170849079
>>170849079
>>170849079
I gave you plenty of (Yous) now give me a name
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>>170849079
what game
>>
>>170849079
HOLY SHIT SAUCE???
>>
>>170849079
you
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>>170849079
>playing bore blunder
kys!
>>
>>170853902
World of Warplanes
it's shit
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>>170849079
BOMBS AND ROCKETS!?

FINALLY GAIJIN MADE THIS PLANE USEFUL!!!
>>
>>170851551

>Dora

fucking christ how much of a shit taste can you have?
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WHEN?
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>>170854113
dropped
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>>170854675
You only need like three or four of those at best.

>Re.2002 or 2001
>MC205
>Re.2005
>Fiat G55

thats it
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>>170853845
>tfw b-25 hvars which were independently fireable and could be carried along with 3x1000lb bombs never
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>Germany Japan wombo combo rolled by burgers in Shermans on Kursk
>team keeps saying that kek will protect us and that we fight to free kekistan as the anonymous army
I think I need to lay down forever
>>
HAF_pilot why are you in the fucking reddit discord
>>
>start playing new nation
>always get 2.0 matches against blatant sealclubbers
Nice, epic, I like it, upboated.
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>>170855278
a better question is why are you
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>>170855313
>not flying the 202 and bullying sealclubbers all game long while your team has fun
>>
>>170855905
What part of >start playing new nation do you not understand?
>>
>play the game after long stop
>tank for a change
>spend the entire game looking for ally and ennemies
>tank driving simulator
>>
>>170855948
>actually starting to play war thunder in 2017 anno domini
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>>170856634
I know that feel
>>
>>170856634
>tfw haven't played since christmas event ended
>tfw shit like the Sturmpanzer and FV4005 is drawing me back to the game
someone please give me a really good reason to not come back when 1.67 drops
>>
>>170855905
>mc 202
>gets outclimbed and outgunned by spitfires
how is it good again?
>>
>>170857247
it's just a meme spouted by pastaniggers who think italy was anything but a bunch of retards
>>
Phly with IS-6:

https://youtu.be/7fglspVH_2s
>>
>>170858175
what does cheeki breeki even mean?
>>
>>170858175
he's such a goddamn shitter I can't even watch his videos because it causes physical pain
>>170858312
>>>/vg/sg
>>
what convergence for planes with six fiddy cals (hellcat, mustang, etc.)
>>
>>170858668
400m
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>>170858312
It's from STALKER, but youtubers have overused it so now it just something retards shout when discussing anything Russian

Means, "I have taken the flank, king me"
>>
>>170858312

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/cheeki-breeki

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC2egrdAVYs
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>>170858615
The most idiotic thing Phly always does is load up many different shell types and then he uses the STOCK shell because why wouldn't you use the shittiest round available? I don't get it.
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>>170858175
>first 5 seconds of the video is him getting killed by a 2.3 vehicle
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So with the RU-251 in the game they won't add the VK Leopard, right?
>>
>>170854675
>>170854963
speaking of italian fighters, which ammo belts should I be using on the 202?
>>
>>170861345
Air belts 12.7
Stealth 7.6

Gun convergence at 300
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For God's sake Gaijin just fucking rework these pacific maps. They are unplayable.

Jesus christ how horrifying.
>>
>>170861583
>300m
>with fucking pasta guns
>>
would you rather have six fiddy cals or one mg 151?
>>
>>170862754
Convergence doesn't matter if your guns are all at the front, and the 7.7 are useless. IRL pilots even removed them.

>>170862893
Six fiddies are a nobrainer unless they're mounted on some extremely retarded position.
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>>170863047
>Convergence doesn't matter if your guns are all at the front, and the 7.7 are useless. IRL pilots even removed them.
they're useful for loading up tracers and scaring your enemy into giving away a deflection shot
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Playing this for the first time, pretty fun. 85mm nukes everything instantaneously from the side. How is the HEATFS for it?
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>>170863976
makes raping tigers much easier
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>>170862893
Fiddy cals.

It shocks me how many people claim that they are bad. Just use stealth ffs.
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>it's another you forget to switch supercharger gear episodes
i swear this has made me die so many fucking times
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has anyone else done the 24/24 missions for the waifu pilot icons and it's showing up as 24/24 completed but you haven't received the 3rd icon?
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>>170865472
No because the american one is the only good one
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>>170855206
>/pol/ is a bunch of memeing retards no matter where they are online (and probably offline)

Did you expect anything else?
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>>170865735
that was the one it didn't give me
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>>170865905
I got it in the first try
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>>170866107
it gave me the fucking slav first
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>>170865741
No, I've spent to long on /int/ to not expect /pol/ to attract only people with marginally more processing power than your average high functioning autist
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>>170866507
/pol/ got really popular lately so the IQ goes down the more people get added, you know how internet communities go.
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>>170852635
>what else should I be aware of?
You're still going to be sniped through the forest because of ultra-slav mode.
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>>170853739
In later tier 4 and tier 5 you'll be really lucky to have enough good games in 1 day to grind out 1 plane, I mean lotto winner tier lucky.
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For those who haven't been able to get into the DEV server

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjFkTt14oe8
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>>170868892
>war thunder youtubers
Fuck off.
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>>170854675
1.69 apparently which is around late April. Assuming nothing gets delayed.
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>>170870560
Source? Ive followed Italy/France very closely and they repeatedly said that we're getting France before Italy
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What happens to the italian planes in the kraut tree if Italy gets its own tree?
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>>170870897
they get moved
why did this not occur in your head
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>>170870897
>Italy gets its own tree
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>>170870996
Its been confirmed several times

I dont understand

its either retards coming in here going
>WAAAAAAH MAMMAI MEIA WHERE ISA MUH PASTASHIT TUHREE
or polar opposites going
>ITALY LITERALLY HAD NOTHING LMAO TREE NEVER
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>>170870645
I wish I could give you a source anon but I'm not allowed. MC 205 and G.55 lines will be complete upon release but the Reggiane line probably will only go up to the Re 2001 on initial release. Rest of the series including the 2005 are likely to be added later assuming they don't decide differently.

I know it sounds like BS.
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>>170870991
But would you still have them or need to re research them?
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>>170871849
you would obviously still have them
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>>170871979
It's a fucking russian free to play scam scheme, I'd very much expect them to make so that you have to unlock them again.
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>>170872357
>scam scheme
never seen a scam scheme of this quality
we're not talking about a simple flash gambling poker game, are we?
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>>170863976
How do I get this chink tank
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>>170871754
Yeah, it is, keep it to yourself unless you can provide proofs and citations you shittank
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>>170872691
You time travel (like the tank itself in-game) to about 2.5 months ago and play the infuriatingly bad event battles repeatedly.
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>>170872691
should've been around for the christmas event
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>>170871754
Thanks, anon, I believe in you.
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>>170872903
>grind the 262 for two horrible unfun months
>never play it again
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>running away from x in my american plane with fifty cals
>x has superior climb rate but worse speed and has cannons
>x starts climbing
I don't outgun them so I can't headon, I don't outclimb so I can't boom and zoom, so what do I do?
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Is there a tier 1 premium in the jap tank line for people who play that in their very first mission?

Has it been made available in an event like other tier 1 premium tanks like with other nations?
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>>170873385
they gave it for free in the christmas event the anons mentioned above
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>playing with the BF 109 E-3 because muh decals
>almost always get maybe 1 kill and then shot down
>Jump into E-4
>Waste spitshitters and slav UFO's
I understand that muh Me rounds in the 20mm's make all the difference, but holy shit, I just want some more fucking decals. Maybe Gaijin will throw German players a bone and include a half assed decal in the bi-weekly grinder

>>170872496
>scam of this quality
It's like you've never heard of No Man's Sky, although quality is a very loose fucking term there.
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>>170842962
it would be of little use compared to this
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Does anyone have the Ki-44-II otsu? I have a coupon for it and think I might be able to grind out enough GE with all the wagers I've saved up to get it so just want to know if its worth it.
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Redpill me on the jap sabre.
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>>170874194
40 mm one? It has ballistics of hand grenade
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Why is the Ki100 an era 3 plane while it should be an era 5 one given that it flew for the first time in '45?
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>>170874194
Use vertical targeting for the guns, and basically ram the enemy to hit with them. It's a very good plane for taking out bombers that your teammates can't kill well at that tier, and it outclimbs the J2M while being at at BR 2.3 along with outrunning everything.
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>>170874194
its a fucking meme with 40mm rounds that somehow manage to have worse velocity than the mk 108
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>>170874194
absolutely get it, its got a HILARIOUS flight model, you can pitch up 20 degrees and climb at 300km/h, the guns are low velocity, 246m/s but at TWO POINT FUCKING THREE youre Guarunteed low tier slow turdboxes to absolutely CLUB. Also now that Jap 12.7s get their HE bullet models, the Ho 103s arent that bad either
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>>170874865
>>170874781
Thanks, I was kinda looking for a fun retard plane so it sounds like what I'm going for.
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>>170874317
Same as the american one with the .50s but costs millions more.
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>"Use your binoculars, it's free!"
HOLY COW, they're not kidding, it IS free!

Joking aside., I don't know how I ever sniped anything without them.
But I have to issues:
1. Why are there no downwards markings?
2. I tried several times to check but I can't confirm that the big marks actually mark one degree, which would make the most sense. I could only confirm them to be slightly more than half a degree. What are they for then?
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>>170875347
WHY IS THERE NO ZOOM ON THE BINOCULARS?
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>>170875816
Because Binoculars don't work that way.
Buy a pair and check
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How do I win at planes in low tiers
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>>170876306
There is a series of old Airforce instruction videos that are better than the ingame training, but I lost the link, so this is all I got
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>>170876306
what plane/nation?
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>>170876461
It's in the OP
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>>170876679
Japs

>>170876891
Thanks
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>>170877001
>Japs

turnfight turnfight turnfight and turnfight some more
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>>170877001
lmao turnfight, early tier japs are clubby as shit and easy as hell to use, for extra memes make sure to use flaps as often as possible, learn to fly defensively, it should come to you naturally, roll here and there, feign hard turns then snap the other direction, that kinda stuff
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>>170877323
This, low tier Japs are the easiest and honestly will probably teach you really bad habits if you ever switch to a nation like Germany.
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>>170823532
>how should I paint it?

Don' forget paint it a big and fat David star.
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>>170877485
The ironic part for me is that I learnt my defensive flying the the Fw190s and when I played japs I was unironically unstopable in the Zeroes. Also if he eventually plays the Ki-61s he will learn to play 109s, the only difference between the two is the -61s dont compress and different gun placement
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Any of you guys want to play together? I got a tier IV Jap plane, tier IV German plane, and a handful of tier IV German and Russian tanks.
I haven't played in forever and I'm not very good but playing with me has got to at least be better than playing with randoms.
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>>170818056
>>170818198
only the M103 got buffed it now has its own shelltype "high_caliber_ap" with pretty fucking good stats but sadly T34 didnt get that for reasons


https://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/342835-167-rumor-round-up-and-discussion/&do=findComment&comment=6827600

how high is the chance for that happening?
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>>170880009
nice
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>>170880009
>sadly T34 didnt get that for reasons
>even though it had the 120mm that the M103's was ultimately a derivative of
)))))))))))))))))))))))
They'll probably fix it once people complain loud and long enough though, like with the M103.
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>>170849079
wew
what game
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>>170880009
>>170880187
on plebbit they said that the AP will probably be replaced with APCBC before the patch drops
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>>170880276
most likely
atm its using a test shot which is pretty much the round it would be using just made from worse materials to make it cheaper
and gaijew didnt even got that shell right
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Why are Spitfires considered easymode retard planes but the Jap planes aren't?

Genuine question desu, not trying to suggest one way or the other.
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>>170881093
jap planes are slow af and made from ricepaper
spitfires can usually a hit or two and they have insane climbrates + great turn and they are pretty fast to round it off

tl:dr : japs are a one trick pony while brits do it all at once and better than most others at that
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>>170881093
>the Jap planes aren't
what thread have you been browsing
90% of people here agree that japs have the most UFOs, only weebshits try to argue against that
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>>170881093
they're both the easiest trees in the game
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>shoot a tiger II with a APDS in the track
>he catches on fire
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>>170881638
>posted from my yak
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>>170881692
>posted from my zero as I throw my mouse across the room to outskill yet another hellcat using my early warning radar
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>>170881751
>engaging at low alt
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what do I do
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>>170882974
dive
dive
dive
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>>170883009
then what
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>>170883070
J
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>>170882974
outskill them
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How do I into boom and zoom? Do I need to slow down on the dive. Do i shoot long or close distance?
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>>170881660
>get shot by a HEAT round in a Pz.III
>shrapnel penetrates out the back

>shoot an M4A3
>round skims the top
>all the shrapnel flies downwards and knocks out the entire crew
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>finally cave in and buy 500 golden eagles
>boost research enough to get the Pz. III L and the Pz. IV F2
>decide try them out
>Pz. III L is literally just plinking at insanely high speeds
>Pz. IV is like a StuG III with a turret

Dunno which I like less.
I had more fun with my Marder III H
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>>170883418
Depends on a few things. If you're MIGHTY PROUD GERMAN PLANE MADE WITH GLORIOUS GERMAN STEEL, in a FW, in arcade mode, you can dive with some power, but letting off on the throttle will usually still manage to net you a good speed with just sheer altitude and some speed. You'll gain a shitload either way on the dive down.

In arcade, shooting really close can be a liability when Spitshitters can outturn you on a dime. Personally I keep my convergence on 400m and shoot within 600 or so. Depending on cannon caliber you can easily shoot some planes from out at a kilometer, but that's with 30mm, with lead properly calculated and adjusted for distance. Since you're not head on when you boom and zoom (unless you're unlucky) keeping it within 600 meters gives you plenty of firing opportunity.

A lot of that changes in realistic. People tend to shoot a lot closer if it's not a headon, and people can easily get dived on. The opposite end of that is that sniping isn't a convenient reticle you lead slightly. Although I don't tend to realistic that often, it's usually a hell of a lot closer. Speed is also a much bigger factor, and as such I'd definitely say let off the throttle completely as you dive, if you end up getting chased keep the throttle going and stay fast enough to escape anybody on your six and then start climbing again. Some others may actually give you much better info, but that's what works for me.
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How do I play tanks? I honestly can't figure out what I'm doing wrong.
Ive played ten games in a row where I haven't ever gotten a kill because my entire team just dies thirty seconds into the round and I get shot in the ass before I have even seen a single enemy.
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>>170883795
the f2 is probs the most fun tank at that BR
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>>170883796
Im grinding burger bombers with my p-51 goyjin gave a telisman for. Realistic gives me the most rp so I play that.
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>>170883795
>boost research
I seriously hope you did not do this.
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>>170884095
Booming and zooming is still the same, your only issue is ammo conservation in most planes and making most of that is going into enemy planes. Nothing worse than being left with piddly ass machine guns to try and drop people.

That all being said, shoot when you're reasonably close, or at least until you get more used to shooting from farther and farther away. Since I don't know what the P-51's armaments are, I can't say for sure if you would be reasonably safe shooting further out. If you know your distances and dive on unsuspecting players, you shouldn't have too much issue with shooting out past 600m consistently, but missing those shots and not downing the player can end up giving them a chance to pull some shit on you. Now, FW's can't really turn on a dime, so getting into a turnfight with spitshitters and slavs usually gets us killed. If you're booming and zooming and fuck up, just get the hell out of there, preferably at a ridiculous speed. Trying to turn on them will bleed a lot more energy, and in realistic may lead to your flaps and other bits being ripped off, and without an en energy advantage, lead you to getting shot down.
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>>170884167
What's wrong with that?
I'm not big into cosmetics and 500 is by far not enough to buy any vehicle, which I'm also not fond of
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>>170884516
It's got a horrible conversion rate. Get a talisman for a main tree vehicle instead.
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>>170884664
I don't exactly get how talismans work yet, care to explain?
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Why do I end up on the losing team of every single game I play?
I've played 50 games today and our team won a total of three times.
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>>170885106
Some nations at certain BRs will get stomped on relentlessly, maybe that's your problem.
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>>170884873
You buy one for a vehicle you really like and it doubles the RP you earn using that vehicle.
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>>170885106
Be good instead of being bad.
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>>170885441
Does it also double the RP carried over to Vehicle research once I unlocked all modules and upgrades? or is that not a thing?
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>>170885527
yep
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>>170885527
That's not a think. Module rp only goes to modules. If you have all your modules unlocked then that rp goes away forever, but that's not a reason not to use a vehicle you like just because you have it spaded.
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can aircraft cannons destroy cargo ships still?
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>>170885614
im pretty sure he asked if the talisman will double vehicle Rp too and not only module
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>>170885209
Russian 6.7~ heavy tank and German 6.7 heavy tank as well.
I do OK at planes I guess. Mainly just tanks is what I can't figure out. I just always ALWAYS get put up against T-29s that stomp me or my team gets rolled on and I get shot from the side or behind because of imminent threats in front of me.

>>170885513
It's hard to get better at something when you can't figure out what you're doing wrong.
>>
>1 milliom sl from huge chest
Not bad gaijin, not bad
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>>170885614
Wait, Doesn't playing with fully upgraded vehicles increase RP to the next vehicle? or is that from WoT?
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>>170885936
no you always research the next vehicle with the same speed regardless if your plane is spaded or stock

and thats not even a thing in WoT either so ikd where you got this from
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>>170885842
>Russian 6.7~ heavy tank and German 6.7 heavy tank as well.
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>>170886205
I don't know what to take from this post, I'm sorry.
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>>170881692
Actually I-185, thank you very much.
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I fucking love this plane in Tankbattles. I shot down an oncoming plane and a FLAK tank. later landed this baby safely and then returned for a decent hit on a tank on one of those plateaus
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>>170886536
FlaK isnt fully capitalized even in german

but yeah the Gs are fun af and i cant wait for the new models
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>>170886536
The 75 mm duck is better. Hull breaking M18s from the air is 10/10.
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>>170886536
Are you actually able to kill the regular tanks? I've been having trouble getting anything more than hits (the best I managed was killing a KV-2's driver) and a few replay's I've watched I managed to hit a loving jack and shit on two different medium low tier tanks in relatively stationary position. I've been hearing all sorts of shit on the heavy caliber cannons and was wondering if you somehow broke what I thought was a curse.

Still can't wait for the new Stuka Models though
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>>170886536
What plane is that?
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i hope they dont fix that from the dev server lmao
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>>170886941
Ju 87 G series
>>170886910
yes its tedious but possible
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>>170886941
StuKa / Ju87 G-1. The G models have heavy canons and are a more agile alternative to the Me410 A
>>170886910
>>170886629
>new models
I'm not following the news. Care to enlighten?
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>>170886963
going to report it)))
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>>170887064
https://warthunder.com/en/news/4542-development-ju-87-stuka-new-models-en/
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>>170887064
Gs only have 37s

and yeah all Ju 87s will get new fancy models that look great
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>>170887064
You don't capitalize the K in Sturzkampfflugzeug.
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I had three teammate tanks in front of me
>What could possibly go wrong
in the time it took me to turn my tank around and head 180° away from them and move 30 meters, they had all died and and am shot in the ass by three enemy tanks
>Repeat ad infinitum
Why? Why is this every game of tanks I play, ever?
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>>170887309
Learn to pre-aim.
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>jet 50k rp module costs 280 GE
>mosquito 6100 rp module costs 400 GE
fuqqq
Noticed this after years of playing war thunder
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Why did Nips use two different aircraft cannons (Ho-5 and Type 99) and machine guns (Ho-103 and Type 3) for their late-war fighters?
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>>170887428
IJN and IJA had different development groups.
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>>170887348
How does this help me with retarded as fuck teammates?
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(((((((((

>>170887428
bitchfights between Army and Navy
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>>170887428
The IJAAF and IJNAF didn't have shared developments of aircraft and weapons. There's only some overlap from engine manufactures but they still often had different designations.
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>>170887539
You know you can use destroyed teammates as softcover, right?
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>>170887550
>so you think you can land
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>>170887650
I think maybe you're missing my point.
How can I expect to do even remotely decently when I am getting flanked in 100% of games because of a total breakdown in teamwork?
As soon as I get anywhere, I'm shot by my left and right or behind because every single one of my teammates has died, and hasn't even attempted to let anyone know that there is a tank about to fuck your day up around the corner?
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>>170887652
kek
>>170887806
stay behind and watch their backs then
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>>170887882
And then I am shot from the left or right or behind because my other teammates have died and left our flanks open.

Am I just the most unlucky player of tanks ever?
It literally does not matter if I kill no tanks, or half their team, my team loses 90% of the games I play.
I'm just trying to figure out of this is common or not.
I have not won a single game in two hours, and that's not an exaggeration.
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>>170888103
what nation ?
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>>170888103
if you are still playing in 1 hour or generally want to squad up add me >>170887279

cuz i wanna see how much you suck/not suck to lose that much desu

short story is with enough work you can make every tank/plane work at the BR they are set at but for some you need more knowledge of map/RNG luck than with others to compete
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>>170888268
German and Russian.

>>170888303
I'm honestly not very good. I don't survive long enough in games to actually work on my skills. Like i said above, people who are somehow worse than me on my team die and I just get fucking flanked from all sides.
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What were the perceived benefits of this style of hull?
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>>170888829
Bik gunn!
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>>170826229
What game is this?
>>
>>170888829
it makes for interesting sniping positions for your infantry after it blows up

>>170888650
German's take a bit of getting used to in certain ways once you get far enough into the tiers. Knowing certain tanks quirks (a certain group of panzers that for some reason decided to pretend to be the super cute StuG, for instance) can really help make or break your playing. If you're doing realistic, the sniping and general peaking of rounds through thin cover can fuck you hard (I still despise Berlin for it's God awful design), but even urban combat can be like a second nature if you work at it hard enough.

The stock leopard is still fucking painful though. I'm literally thinking of unlocking HESH before FPE because I feel like I get one shot prior to everything else.
>>
5th bong catalina discount in the past 3 days
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>>170888650
not him but it doesnt matter if you are good or not and it cant hurt to have someone on your team who is
war thunder GF is 90% luck
>>
>>170889869
But who wants to willingly play with someone who admittedly isn't very good?
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>>170890046
you cant be worse than the average WT player
its simply not possible
just add me and we can see
im pretty sure you are making yourself worse than you actually are
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>>170890089
Whats your player name?
>>
>>170890159
__Reichtangle__
>>
>>170890159
Just join the vg chat. Hit the chat button in the bottom right, click the magnifying glass, type vg, no slashes or anything, password is memes
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>>170890185
I added you. I have a "*" in my name because I created the account on ps4
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>>170890257
nope no invite here

do what >>170890242
said and add me from chat
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>>170890242
Done.
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>>170888886
From the depths
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New German fighter-bomber jet leaked.
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>Friend wants to play Warthunder
>Haven't played in over a year
>Interested to see how things have changed
>Still banned for disagreeing with a mod in all chat
>Acknowledge ban notification
>Look in British tree
>New Plane
>Brigand
>Decide to give it a test fly
>Heavier then the mosquito
>No faster either
>Half the armament
>mfw they could of put in the DH Hornet Instead but made this
>Fly Lancaster to test out bomb bays
>Accidentally discovered they have finally put in bomber cockpits
>No Textures at all
>reskinned gauges from spitfires
>almost have a stroke
>google bomber cockpits wt
>H-HAHA YEAH BOMBER COCKPITS ARE AMAZING G-GUYS!
>By BaronVonGamez
>feel a deep sense of pity knowing if he dares talk badly of Gayjin he will have his livelihood ruined
>Decide to play an RB match in B-25
>wait over a minute as usual
>Joining Game
>Hokkaido
>The annoyance of having the same map every fucking time has faded at this point
>Spawn and go wide to avoid furball because it's so predictable
>aiming bomb sight is harder
>miss a few pillboxes
>don't even blink when i am jumped by a tempest and premium spitfire because i know it's inevitable
>take Vickers P Tempest tail sitting me down
>spitfire passes me again and i lose elevator then crash
>look at scoreboard
>only 3 players against the remaining 10 on the other team
>painfully wait for match to end
>as a reward i get some rp and 10k lions to use on a progressively harder grind

I think i will go and play Il-2:BoS now
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>>170891286
really epic blog
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>>170891286
So why not have your friend escort you?
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>>170891286
>waiting AND watching the inevitable clubbing
>not just saying fuck it and queing another match
Great blog bro, but next time try leaving after getting your one spawn ruined by spitshitters
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>>170891286
>come back
>play bomber
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>>170892580
not worth the BR increase over the normal 7
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>>170891286
>play bad nation on bad map
>have bad time
>make sure other people have a bad time by writing a bad blog
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>>170892691
What about it's successor, the La-9? 23mm make it seems like a pretty fun plane.
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>>170892735
the 23s arent that great and have low ammo but the 9 isnt bad
im just saying that 1 extra 20 isnt worth the 0.7 (?) BR increase
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>>170892816
Fair enough, guess I'll stick to my LaLa-7 and continue the I-185 line.
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>>170891242
fuck off Comett
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>>170891242
what game is this ?
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anyone else hyped for the RBS rockets?
50mm penetration for the small ones is better than "hit" on the small RS
and many planes can carry them
the 132mm ones doesnt seem to be worth it since they only have 75mm penetration and the 132s kill shit with a hit anyways
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>>170891242
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>>170891242
>>170894052
god WoWP is still alive? i would have scrapped the servers by now desu
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>>170894280
WoWP 2.0 Soon tovarisch
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>>170894317
seriously?
ohgod please no
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>>170894652
>>170894317
it looks like WT arcade + HP bars
they didnt get rid of the biggest problem

fucking
HP bars
on
planes

its an entirely different thing on tanks/ships because those can actually take a hit and keep going but airplanes will in 99/100 cases take critical damage that will fuck you up
when taking a solid hit
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>>170895101
HP bars are just like shooting a B-17/Tu-8/B-29
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>>170895180
you can oneshot those too
its rare but possible
but you literally cant oneshot other fighters in WoWp even small shit like I16s can take hits and keep truckin
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>>170895279
With a high enough caliber cannons you can two-three shot most fighters. Extremely historically accurate FMs in WT are basically HP bars without HP bars. WoWP is still not a good game, HP bars aren't part of the problem for me though.
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>>170895357
im talking about displaying damage
i play WoWP too now and then but its very annoying that a plane with 1% HP left flies pretty much as if it was pristine
but yeah WoWP has alot problems

it runs like shit even on good pcs and its as dead as it gets
and the planes look like shit even on high settings

it also has a direct competitor with alot more time to polish their own game which made it harder for an unfinished pos like WoWP to get players
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>>170890973
Thank you anon
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THE CHALLENGER TANK IS SO BAD

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>170891286
Nice blog anon where can I subscribe
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>Teammates randomly crashing into the ground when it's like a 3v1
Why do they keep doing this?
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>>170896871
Looks worse than the monstrosity that is the CR.42 tbqh
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>>170882974
Kill the duck first
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>>170873273
If you were high up you could dive, if you are on the deck I guess try rolling and defensive maneuevers.
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>>170896430
Didn't it destroy nearly 200 Iraqi tanks during the Gulf War?
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How the FUCK do you beat these FUCKING TEEB SPITNIGGERS on Hokkaido as clap planes?
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>>170897373
The older Challenger tank. A30
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>>170897439
Just dive 'em lmao
Also what clap plane nigger
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>>170897439
Boom and zoom.
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>>170897472
Tier 3 stuff only- P-47, P-51, F6F-5

The F6F is the one that gets me killed most easily with least chance of surviving so I stopped using it in RB for now.

Hoping when I get the F4U-1c I might be able to do better
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DEV SERVER UP WHEN
I WANNA DRIVE CHIEFTAINMEME AND STB
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>>170897703
>P-47
Literally just climb to space and watch their engines gasp for air when they try to fly towards you, boom and zoom low energy teebs, if they dodge don't fucking turn, just zoom back up. The only planes you should be worried about in a P-47 is the Typhoon and Mosquito. You may not get a lot of kills this way but you can either force a stalemate or have some britfag eventually do a shallow climb towards you, resulting in an ez kill.
>P-51
Cannonstang? I haven't played it a while now, all I know is that it overheats like a bitch. Can't help you out with that
>Hoping when I get the F4U-1c I might be able to do better
Corsair with cannons is pretty good, but don't expect to outturn spitnigs or some shit. Personally I find the F4U-1d much better.
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>>170898009
Cannonstang is the one plane I seem to do best with in RB but its RP reward is shit especially when trying to research the F4U1c, and I dont know if its worth it to Talisman it as I'm just about to break into Tier IV soon.
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>>170898009
>Mosquito
its nothing special really, wings go off at 715 kmh, flaps are on another orbit around 300. I have yet to see a plane which it can out turn
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>>170897929
PVE UP WHEN
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>Using T-44 for the first time
>Get Carpathians Break mode
>In first cap on the fortress
>Get strafed multiple times by several aircraft leading to my tracks being blown off and damaging my barrel
>Cap, but it's not a repair zone so I drive off with a useless barrel since Gaijin won't let you have a repair kit for free
>Later die to a M41 since I can't shoot back
))))
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>>170898157
I'd say if you can master any of the P-47 variants, I'd say you should talisman one of the thunderbolts. Definitely one of America's best props. But it's up to you what to talisman.
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>>170897929
Have they added the Chieftain with the stillbrew set?
>>
I really wish this game had a better crew system with real models, skills, giving them names etc. instead of a few numbers that only do something useful when you put 4000 crew points in them
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>>170862893
how many rounds on that MG 151?
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>>170899067
__60_
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>>170898469
>talisman one of the thunderbolts.

Thinking about it actually, those 8 .50's are a real help
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>>170899292
fuck
I'll take 6 fiddies then
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>>170898569
>Chieftain Mk.10
>introduced in 1988
The Slavs will add the T-80BV w/ Kontakt-1 and Kobra missiles before they add that thing.
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>>170899557
>1100 eagles

hahaha nevermind, fucking gayjin
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>>170899557
got talisman for D-25 from trophy chest, lucky me. This as back before 1.59, when 8 .50s would cut wings as easily as quad Hispanos do now
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>>170899779
>always get to a vehicle AFTER the nerf

fuck me
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>>170899835
Also my best luck regarding Talismans was a battle trophy for the 88mm flak truck, guided me along that whole tier really well.
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>>170899923
>>170899835
Atleast you faggots got somewhat "decent" talismans. The only talisman unlock I got was for the Sea Hurricane Mk.IB
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>>170899995
by best talisman from chest was for A-36. Aced it pretty fast, and still use it in AB lineups as dive bomber, where it can drop 2 x 500 lbs every 30 seconds
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>>170899835
1.59 was global nerf, virtualy all guns turned to shit. American planes were hit by it the most, because how they fight.
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>literally every ground forces realistic match against russian's is with the sun behind THEIR backs

literally what the actual fuck?
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>>170900383
no gun nerf
it was durability buff
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>>170900756
same with RB Krymsk

fair and balans ))))))))))))))
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Just had a Bf 109 G-2 climb to 8000-9000m and just fly circles for the rest of the match. He then proceeded to J out after I assume he ran out of fuel. What the fuck was the point of that?
>>
>watch/read tutorials what to do when someone is on your six in arcade
>still everytime it happens I cant shake him off and dont know what to do
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>>170901696
first rule of thumb is don't let a plane get on your six
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NOT WAR THUNDER RELATED since i couldn't find any plens general, and there are some pretty knowledgeable whenposters here, may i ask you what would be your recommendations for a two-prop floatplen? i was thinking about scale modeling a RC seabeaufighter
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>>170901696
there are different methods used against different planes

>my plane is fast plane, enemy is slower
just increase airspeed, dodge a little vertically

>my plane is slow, enemy is fast
just turn

>my plane has rollrate, enemy is tyhpoon
just barrel roll, reduce airspeed, let him overshoot

>my plane is tyhpoon, enemy is fw190
just kys
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>>170901908
>two-prop
You gotta bump those numbers up mate
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>>170901908
Either the Do-18 or Do-26.
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>>170902321
That's a sexy looking plane.
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>>170902390
ikr, but i was looking for a 2-prop

>>170902291
this is inefficient for my purpose, 1 or 2 electric motors would be the best for my purpose

just think long flight time on 1 battery, loops, water landings and takeoffs, barrel rolls and loops, shit like this
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>>170901667
people don't understand how scoring works, and think they get tons of RP for idling away from everyone for a long time, while in reality most of points come from kills and battle time.
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>>170901696
if enemy overperforms you, zigzag to nearest swarm of friendlies
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>>170902674
Don't you think he would get the point by now? Checked his stats and this guy apparently has a MiG-15. Record aircraft destroyed is 16 in his I-15.
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>>170902895
Maybe he has a bot do it for him
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I'm pretty much forced to get premium at this rate

>this is with 75% RP booster too
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>>170902321
How is this and the Martin PBM Mariner not in the fucking game yet

the fuck are Gaijin doing
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>>170903226
don't waste RP on f4u1c, i have it, semi-upgraded and literally only thing it's better than mustang is ammo capacity

unless you're skilled at groundpounding, then go ahead
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>>170903323
not of priority. have strong wooden Beriev MBR-2 instead))
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>>170903323
>still no Catalina with nose-mounted 20 mm
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>>170901908
>>170902291
>>170902321
>>170903323
>>170903726

>All these 'literal-whats' as whenposts
>Not suggesting the He-115 C

The He-115 should have been the boat prem for Germany. Not that fucking BlomVoss boat.
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>>170903476
Now you tell me

Anyways I want to get the Panther eventually so I have to grind this thing out sometime.

Also I'm sad, got most kills with my P-51 but it gives me the least vehicle RP because its tier 3.0 So, gonna have to stop playing it soon, and I'm mainly grinding for the F4UC because it seems similar to the P-51 in terms of armament and its at a higher tier so I wont be gimped trying to research high tier vehicles in a plane I perform best with but get shit vehicle RP for.

Or wait, if I talisman my P-51 will I be able to make up for the lower RP percentage for researching higher tier planes?
>>
yay

http://warthunder.com/en/news/4572-war-thunder-1-67-assault-further-development-for-simulator-battles-en/
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>>170904663
>Not suggesting the He-115 C
it's literally the most pleb and mundane wwii flying boat someone could post.
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>>170904994
So if my RP for P51 is 136% right now, with a talisman it will be 236% correct?

I never bought a talisman before, but I love this plane so much I may have to
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>>170904663
memeboat > boreboat
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>>170904994
TIERS affect research penalty
BATTLE RANKING affects matchmaking
cannon Corsair is BR 5.0, but it's T3, so will have same penalty as P-51.
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>>170905663
However a talisman put on a tier 3 will help research tier 4 planes better than even a regular tier 4 right?

Since none of the tier 4 planes are even 236% RP like my P51 would be if talisman'd, or even 200% RP
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>>170850243
Contrast
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>>170905835
are these RP boosts per plane set or dynamic?
are they part of balancing mechanism?

>>170904663
this is better, but still doesn't look as good as bristol
i'm now thinking whether i should put a single float (a6m2N style) or classic two floats
>>
I'm glad this general hasn't turned into an autistic circlejerk of a shit weeb anime like /wotg/ has. Thank god
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>>170905835
>However a talisman put on a tier 3 will help research tier 4 planes better than even a regular tier 4 right?
yes, you'll be hit by penatly only if you research more then 1 tier apart, so for example using T3 to research T5
>Since none of the tier 4 planes are even 236% RP like my P51 would be if talisman'd, or even 200% RP
if you plan to spend eagles, look up American Bf 109 F-4 in premium branch, it's the best plane in Burger tree due to godlike perfomance and center firing cannon with looooong belt. See how prices compare.
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>>170906198
How do you change the hangar area? I'm sick to death of the fucking boring airfield and mudtrack
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What's a good german fighter at the lower end of RankII to get rid of those pesky hurricanes and other shits during Realistic Tankbattless?
Or shouldn't I even try?

ALso, i have 300 golden lions, I only have 5 crews and no talismans. Actually nothing purchasable at all.
New crew or Talisman or Decorators?
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>>170906925
crew
and try the He 100
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>>170906727
its super easy

http://live.warthunder.com/post/573272/en/
Is the hanger in my pic

Instructions are the same for every hanger

How to install the hangar :

1 - Download the zip file
2 - Unzip the file in your War Thunder file ("C:\Program Files (x86)\War Thunder" or for Steam users : "C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\War Thunder") - SAY OK WHEN SAYS THAT THE FILE ALREADY EXISTS.
3 - Open "config.blk in your War Thunder file and add this line anywhere :
hangarBlk:t="jungle_hangar_petra_2-0.blk"
4 - Launch the game

To go back to the Default Hangar, just add // before the line hangarBlk:t="hangartool2_petra.blk" in the config.blk

This one has a lot of vegetation so if your PC cant handle it theres a shitload of others out there
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>>170906925
Just realized can't buy anything but new crew for 300 Golden lions.
Do backup vehicles get used up or can I buy 10 and then always have 10 for that vehicle?
Sorry for many dumb questions
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>>170906453
No I mean every tier 4 plane has less RP reward than a talisman P51 at tier 3 so its still viable for me to unlock those tier 4's with a lower tier plane I think.

Since its the one I do best with so far.

>>170906608
Thats pricier than just a talisman on the P51, plus I already fly the 109 plenty when I play Germany I want to fly Murrican planes when I'm clapping
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>>170907080
they get sued up
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>>170907002
Literally can't find it.
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>>170906925
If your playing realistic you don't need a lot of crews, keep crews dedicated to one type of vehicle and upgrade them. For fighters in tank battles the early 109's and 190's are strong as long as you can track the little dots. If you can't your going to need to find something that turns decently, mc202 is hard because it takes to long to bring something down, those cannon 112's are probably your best bet. The one with a single 20 actually uses its own gun that has batter performance against ground targets, but you lose out on antiaircraft performance
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>>170907080
backups are spent as used, so buy 1 backup for 80GE, use it, and then lose it and have to replenish with more shekels

I never buy backups I usually get enough from trophies
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>>170907424
start of Fw 190 line
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>>170907426
>ground targets
already have the Ju 87 G for ground targets. I am looking to get rid of those fuckers in the sky.
Just found the He100 btw, dont have it researched though. I am currently using the Fw190 A-4 for air, but I dont really feel any perfomance coming out of it. Just picked it because it has the highest BR.
It's been ages since I played air.
>>
What is the best way to use the Yak-7?
>>
>suddenly have to hold right mouse button to aim rather than click

what the fuck how do I change this
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Better ammo cook off explosions when? The current animations look like they're from 2005.
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>>170907810
I thought you were way earlier in br never mind that then
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>>170908071
Amazing what blowout panels can do.
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>>170908025
You use the Yak-9t instead
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>>170908032
actually what the fuck the game just decided to reset all my controls for some reason

thanks gaijen
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>>170908127
I should have said "later end of Rank II" rather than "lower"
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>>170874580
stop being a shitter
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>>170812985
>only german tank at that br without armor
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>>170908329
It did this to me a few weeks ago, still haven't solved the hold to aim binding. It did make me discover having the up down buttons binded to w and s instead of throttle
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>>170908751
implying that matters when its small af and literally the fastest tank in the game
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The stock IS-3 is utter SHIT I tell you, FUCK!!!
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>>170908967
I just fixed my tank controls but my airplane is all sorts of fucked, with wing control on WASD and acceleration and deceleration on shift and ctrl.

To fix the zoom in annoying shit, go to Tank Controls, camera control, and delete the keybind for Zoom Camera. Then go to Common Controls, and then View Controls, and replace whatever keybind you want in Zoom Camera
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>>170854106
thats not bore blunder
>>
Who is the best (least annoying) WT youtuber and why is it Baron?
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>>170909915
Thats how you want your plane controls to be at least for mouse aim, thats how I have em, and q and e for rudder.
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>>170910812
why dont you just play the game instead of giving those attention whoring faggots youtube shekels
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>>170908071
>>170908237
Did the guy abandon his tank, and his crew for no reason then? Or is it totally fucked inside and all the rounds are wasted?
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>>170910961
I use adblock though, anyways they're way better than me at the game and do fun stuff like dueling with BV238s that I'd never be able to do because poorfag and no one to play with so its fun to watch that shit, plus they have GE out the ass so they can do silly shit with their planes and tanks and not feel like they took a massive risk and lost a lot of lions.

Must be fun.
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>>170911014
he fucks off because arabs are bad at war
yes the ammo is fucked but the tank itself is fine
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>>170883840
dont rush you congoid
use binocs
hull down
dont play the british with your skill
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>>170910812
Orangedoom
>Arrogant narcissistic know-nothing who talks bad about his own viewers
Slickbee
>Uninteresting Vape shitter who puts you to sleep because he drone vocal-fry voice
PhlyDaily
>A total MLG Chad that only really appeals to 15 year old shit kids
Baron
>PhlyDaily lite
Magz
>Australian
Bohica Ice
>Only plays low tiers with loser squadmates feeding him easy kills that were already half dead.
At least he talks about historical aspect to which ever vehicle he uses. For that, I "pay attention" to him the most
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>>170888829
there werent benefits
japan lacked the industrial capability to make actually decent tanks ala shermans
>>
So did they remove the t29's sprawl shield? because I'm getting penned through my mantle left and right here lately
>>
>be total noob
>all I manage to do is destroy 1/2 ground unit and get killed
>no manoeuvre seems to work

How do I git good in non-arcade ?
>>
>>170823881
>rubber tracks
not a model builder although I'm interested, but what's wrong with them?
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>>170911486
Man you watch may more than me

Anyways I mostly watch Baron for his neat MoWAS2 vids and that custom mod for it he shows off, thats how I found his WT vids anyways.

Dont really care for Phly, dont watch Slick, only other youtuber I watch is Diplex for his MoWAS2 vids and he doesnt even play WT.

Thats about all the youtuber shit I can stand, maybe Bluedrake sometimes but not lately.
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>>170908405
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I asked you waste of retard.
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>>170911496
>Sherman
>decent tanks
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>>170910812
GrmlZ but he left us behind for better flight sims.
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>>170911874
better than the deathtrap that is the t34 or the overstressed piece of shit that is any panzer iv above the f2
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>>170911983
T34 is garbage yeah no argument there.

PZIV G and J are great, fuck you.
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>>170911983
this desu

the sherman is fine if only because everything else was miles worse and it also had great upgrade potential
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>>170912095
>mfw blowing the fuck out of soviet shitters in my M4A1 76(W), one shotting them several times

I fucking love it.

80-90mm Sherman when
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>>170911874
he's talking about reality, not War Thunder
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>>170911891
GrmlZ and Bismarck were very interesting and fun to watch in war thunder, but yes they left it long ago

There collaboration in DCS was really cool too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7jaKREUFfg
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>>170912241
Neat, I just yesterday watched both those two of theirs videos their they made there for War Thunder air maneuevers, defense etc and learned a good deal from them.
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>>170912092
G had less effective armor than the Sherman and its 30's chassy wanted to kill itself. J was just on the cheap
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>>170912358
>tfw everyone just reusuing the same PzIV chasis with different turrets on top

Boring desu
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>>170912092
the panzer iv chassis started eating shit once the f2 was put into production
it was designed for 30mm frontal armor and a short 75, not a fucking long 75 and 80mm frontal
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>>170912551
Why didnt they upgrade it then, too busy making meme heavy tank chasis?
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>>170912636
>too busy making meme heavy tank chasis
nail on the fucking head
the plan was to replace the panzer iv with the panther but that never happened obviously
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>>170911664
>make paper Sherman Firefly
>go full autismo and make tracks from separate chainlinks
tracks took more time than entire tank, but boy, it looked great
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what should I expect?
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>>170911183
The tank is not fine. The explicit reason for blowout panels on the Abrams is to minimise crew damage. The tank is fucked, blowout panels only contain the flames and explosions from the rounds for so long.

If an Abrams has been hit in a way which'd make the ammunition cookoff, there is no way of recovering the vehicle.
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>>170912996
bounce shit, like hesh
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>>170912743
Why is kraut WW2 tank engineering so bad?
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>>170913135
aryan science (basically, pseudoscience), reliance on superweapons that would never work (the ratte being one) and hitler's delusion
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>>170913087
wrong
the crew can sit in the tank while the ammo bruns out and nothing happens
they can even retreat while it happens
thats what they are for
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>>170912996
suprisingly fun
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>german tanks are bad
>uptier german tanks to fight tanks developed years later

what did they mean by this?
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>>170884516
>500 is by far not enough to buy any vehicle
Just save it for you when get a 75% discount ticket holy fuck.
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>>170913287
Again, if the tank has been hit by something which penetrates the vehicle and also sets off the ammunition, the tank is fucked anyway.
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whats the best way to maximize chance of a battle trophy?

play continuously one mode, one vehicle, or switch between AB, RB and tanks and planes?
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>>170913453
>tanks can only be good or bad based on a fantasy 1 on 1 fight were they were teleported to the battlefield
Typical weraboo
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>krautcucks
SAD!
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>>170914178
many such cases!
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>>170914178
>soviet shits

Theres nothing to gloat or boast about when you fly the most unfair, over-buffed and developer bias infused planes in the game
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>>170914551
post proofs
If you think they are unfair or OP you literally need to kys or git gud
they just fit the meta)))
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>>170914178
Why would you hide your name, Blemo?
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>>170913916
Its literally random, there's no way to increase chances of getting one (although it's speculated that winning a battle while having high activity may increase chances) but was never confirmed.
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>>170914701
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>170914706
Nice detective work desu
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Been playing the Pz. IV F2 and the Pz. III L for a while now and I gotta say They're growing onto me.
The Pz.III lets me be in a fight and actually take and give a few shots. up close he's fucking awesome. Just now I killed two wankers coming around the corner AFTER the previous one killed my transmission. I have to admit i got bloody lucky for them to line up like that, but I can't wait for some better Armor-Pen ammunition
The Pz. IV is kinda like my deadly little friend the Marder III H, except not as squishy and maybe not as deadly on superlong ranges, but blowing up an M4A3 in Urban combat is satisfying as fuck.
They are my new favourites.

On a similar note: is anyone actually playing the StuH 42? I played it in one match and the reload time alone made me churn, but the lack of range is just abhorrent. Instantly switched back to the StuG III F. Wondering if the G will be any different.
And lastly, how's the Flak 37? Worth upgrading from the Marder III H for?
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>>170913634
penetration =/= damage. You play War Thunder, you should know that.
Most total loses in Gulf 1&2 were tanks finished off by friendly forces, because there was no time to haul them back for repair. Very few suffered complete loss from same thing that knocked them out of combat.
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>>170914858
Stuh is pretty bad, dont bother with it unless you really want to.
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>WAR THUNDER KEEPS RESETTING THE CONFIG.BLK WHEN I LAUNCH THE GAME SO CUSTOM HANGER MODS AND CUSTOM SOUND MOD DOESNT WORK

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKK OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

Am I supposed to set it to read only? But then I wont be able to edit settings ingame right?
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>>170915818
Fucking hell that didnt work either.
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>>170915818
>WHEN I LAUNCH THE GAME
for me it reseted controls while I was still logged...
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>>170916050
its so fucking frustrating, I got one custom hanger working why don't they work now

why is the game resetting my fucking config file
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>>170916153
>>170916050
>>170915934
>>170915818
is of feature tovarisch))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>shot at blank point
>right in the turret
>tank undamaged

Can someone explain to me the ammo wizardery ?
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>mess around a bit with mouse settings
>turn off pointer precision in control panel
>turn on mouse smoothing in war thunder controls
>aim is immediately less jerky in game through scope view
>realize I may have been playing with a self imposed crutch in all those 500 hours of War Thunder

Haven't tried it with planes and aiming there yet but really makes me think.
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>>170916778
Is of bAlance tovarish )))))
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>>170917329
Mouse acceleration was a mistake, always turn it off.
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>>170916778
also

>realistic tank battle
>takes 3 min to turn the turret

>arcade tank battle
>tank is drifting in the 90's

Sure this is the best balance possible
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>>170917840
you mean mouse smoothing?

or just the pointer precision in the windows mouse controls?

Or are they the same thing
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>>170917874
Are you playing jap tanks?
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>>170911754
it has everything to do with it because you somehow think era has anything to do with introduction dates.

>waste of retard
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>>170917956
Pointer precision is mouse acceleration, having 0 acceleration means your mousepointer moves 1:1 no matter how fast you move the mouse.

I dont know what smoothing does, but i dont use it.
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>5 minutes in
>enemy caps one point, going from 2-1 to 1-2
>still ahead a few points
>"Just a little more effort and victory is ours"

Why dont they fix this?
Why dont they at least reassign the fucking parameters?
And while they are at it, cast some non-negro to say these lines. He's destroying my Wehrmacht RPing!
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>>170917874
Not a fucking argument, arcade and "realistic" might as well be two completely different games gameplay wise.
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>>170918074
not even
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>>170918518
point is, one is a boring tank driving simulator and the other is CoD with slow 360 noscope

I think there's a right middle
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>>170919002
Have you considered that maybe WT is not for you?
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>>170918265
Anyone with smoothing or acceleration on is asking to not hit anything.
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>>170919002
so you want something that is both realistic and not realistic.

ok then.
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>watch a video on sniping in tanks
>guy switches from targetting view to binoculars
>it doesn't simply switch but have a quick transition that takes the confusion out of the process
HOW DO I GET THIS?
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>>170887428
A matter of the japanese army and navy hating each other. As in actual hate, not just interservice rivalry.
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>>170919475
You can mark things in binocs and witch automatically aims your gun at it so you don't have to reaquire your target. Press fire in binocs
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>>170920578
I know that I wasn't asking for that.
I mean, how do I switch from binocs to target view with a transition rather than simply losing view for a split second?
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>>170920756
Click right mouse while on binocs
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>>170894052
I rember flying it in IL2 1946, shame its armament is awful. I hate the MK108 so much.
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>>170894052
>Huckebein
>Huckebein THE Raven?
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>>170921607
Doesn't do anything.
I'm working with Default bindings except I bound Binocs to B
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>>170921714
If only we got X-4s with it
>>170921848
Yes, exactly.
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>>170921995
What makes you think that fucking MCLOS air to air missiles would make it better? It's not like WT players have a qualm with pulling acrobatics with bombers.
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>>170922141
You severely underestimate the retardation of bomber players.
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>>170911486
>Orangedoom
>Arrogant narcissistic know-nothing who talks bad about his own viewers
You mean: Doesn't talk about anything but how bad american teams are
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>>170906597
I'm pretty sure that early days /wtg/ was like that, but even then at that point in town the Str*ke W*tches fandom started dwindling/fucking off.
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>>170921848
Thoughts endless in flight
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>>170921901
Click v in binocs? Or whatever your gunsight is
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>>170918091
It does with pretty much every other fucking nation.
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>>170922535
>at that point in town
>town
Time. Also they ruined WW2 aviation threads in /k/ for years, same thing that happened with tanks and GuP and ships and Kancolle.
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>su100 has same BR as Jagpanther
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>>170913268
>aryan science
That was actually a thing? Also did Guderian not have a saying in all of that retarded crap, did the nazis replace all of their sensible and relevant brass with yesmen by then?
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>>170922590
DAY TURNS TO NIGHT
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>>170923195
QUESTIONS YOU ASK YOUR SOUL
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>>170922994
>My shitbox has the same br as another shitbox that's similar to it

WHO WOULD HAVE THOUGHT!? xD
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>>170922653
it doesn't though lol
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According to google translate slavs get to have some event to get e-100 tank

>http://warthunder.ru/ru/news/12820-kibersport-videoblogery-war-thunder-srazyatsya-drug-s-drugom-v-youtube-cup-ru/
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>>170923950
>jagpanther invincible frontally to most guns
>jagdpanther has long 88mm
>jagdpanther has best zoom at its tier
>jagdpanther has faster reload
>su100 has good HE filler on its APHE shell
seems fair you are right XD
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>>170924154
sees heat/hesh/apds 24-7

Even higher ground wont save it from apds
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>>170924154
>>jagpanther invincible frontally to most guns
hahaha are we playing the same game? they're piss-easy to penetrate frontally
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Earlier in this thread people were talking about aim sensitivity, fucking hell I had no idea how much I was crippling myself by having it on. No more frustratingly restarting aiming because the enemy tank was stuck in a little dead zone of my mouse, I'm a fucking idiot for not knowing about this sooner.
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>>170924843
>>170924601
most of my games with it I was downtiered and just bounced left and right
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>>170910812
>not jengar
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>>170910812
I unironically enjoy Magz desu senpai
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>>170922603
You still don't get it.
I know how to switch to gunsights. This is not about switching to gunsights, it's about a seamless transition rather than the sudden switch with a nanosecond of black between
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>>170924993
Good luck hunting
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>>170922603
>>170926307
He's talking about how when you vote a replay and in the replay you transition from gunsight to binos instead of snapping between the two. Kind of flows, hard to explain. Watch a replay of yourself going into binos and back and you'll see what he means.
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>>170927616
Oh so it's just in Replays? sucks man
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>>170907021
thanks man
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>>170825919

Then what? Spaded almost everything up to Era IV.

If you say spade the Era Vs or unlock camos I will cut you.
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>>170925204
>vehicle with decent armour bounces a lot when downtiered

no shit
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>>170917329
where is mouse smoothing in the controls, can't find it
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>>170930101
Controls->Mouse aim category
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Should I knock down the windows mouse speed from 6/11 to 3/11?
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wait, what the hell does "sense of flight" do?
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>>170931430
In cockpit view when you turn it makes your pilot throw himself in the cockpit like he's having a seizure.
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>airfield campers
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>play 6.7 slavs
>paired with nazis
>against angloshits
>all we have is shitty IS-2s and Tiger Ps
>entire enemy team is either T29s, T32s, and M46s
>get wiped within 5 minutes
haha lol xD anglos have it so bad, they have such bad tanks xD
I swear to christ anglos are the most spoiled little shits, yes, they're worse than fucking nazis at this point
now I remember why I quit this retched game
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>>170934272
>anglos
You mean the Americans?
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>>170934590
bongs were sprinkled in
didn't see a single one in the kill feed though, probably because they were overwhelmed by the sharp and constant burger handholding
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Why are premium planes so shit? None of them look interesting in the slightest besides the He-219 and maybe the Ta-154.
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>>170934272
When I get paired with soviets in my Panther 2 it's a win 90% of the time. Really makes you think.
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>>170935504
I didn't see jack shit when it came to Panther IIs, despite playing 6.7 and seeing at least 5 T32s
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>>170935684
T29s deserve some handholded wins )))))))))))
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>>170874865
Hold the fucking phone, jap 12.7s are fixed?
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why won't it let me zoom in on my vehicles in the hangar using the scroll wheel anymore?
also in ground battles
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>HEAT hits track
>die
working as intended xDDDD
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Fucking hate Kv1
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>>170936310
glitch that still hasnt been fixed
restart the game tovarisch )))))))
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>dev launcher just opened on its own
>preparing to patch
lets see what it is
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>Modification research doesn't convert itself to vehicle research on spaded vehicles

Give me 30 good reasons why this shouldn't be changed.
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>>170939190
Less incentive to convert RP )))))))))
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>when the team is getting strafed to shit but the wirblewinds can't be bothered to drive out of spawn or shoot at fighters several kilometers away from them
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>>170939190
better yet if there was a slider that let you set how much RP goes between modifications and vehicle research so you could focus your cumulative RP on either grinding out a new vehicle or stock grind
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1,000 hours in and I found a new map, Malta, and it was in a mixed battle as the fucking Japs.
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russian bias)))))))))))))))
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>>170939754
I play regularly on arcade.
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>>170940476
Play that map that is. It's very aesthetic.
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>get told M4A3E2 is good now
>seems like they're right
>play 4 matches
>all of them are max uptier
>all of them involve me dying to the first artillery shell dropped in the vicinity
remind me why this piece of shit is such an artillery magnet
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I'm trying out GF with the soviets since they're supposed to be biased as everyone claims. Currently grinding the T-34 tree

That's cool and all but I haven't stopped getting one shotted since I got into the T-34 models. On the other hand, I oneshot almost no one (who's not a T-34) even if I hit him perfectly or in the ammo rack. Am I doing something wrong or is the T-34 THIS fucking shit? Because I'm quite *literally* getting oneshotted every single game by every single time with a regular frontal penetration
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>>170913135
Corporatism and chronic corruption within armament procurement offices meant that the various tank manufacturers were more focused on selling what they wanted to sell rather than what the army actually needed and wanted.
>>
So what units give the best RP/Lions in Plone ground pounding? I just got the Wyvern. Ships seem to give shit.
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>>170941414
Light pillboxes
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>>170941176
T-34s got "nerfed" when overmatch was introduced, 75mm guns will punch clean through you, if youre using the T-34 mod 1940 dont bother, stick to 2.7 until you get the '41 and '42 mod T-34s as they get the actual ammo that pretty much guaruntees kills on pen. T-34s are pretty memey regardless, their low profile and sloping means that you will bounce shots, but dont take that as a que to not angle at all.

Just do your best son, youll get the hang of it, theyre not as unbalanced as everyone says they are, I swiss them in anything. Bare in mind that thanks to the crew count and placement, you WILL be killed in one shot from APHE to the turret so, start getting used to getting the first shot off and getting out of dodge
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>>170941414
Just shoot 20 old cars and you'll make 3x as much as the best fighter on your team
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>receiving All chat from the enemy team is disabled by default

How long did it take you guys to figure this out?
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>>170941176
T-34 and russian bias are dead memes
they were barely there to begin with, they were easily countered with brains, although they were a little memey, but now they're just useless
the only T-34 that isn't a shitbox is the second 85
if you want biasmobiles, go play germany or now burgers, because they're getting their second coming
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>flying around in my Ju 87 G
>heavily damage some fuckhead sitting on a wall, get kill assist a few moments later
>prepare to turn around
>Hurricane is coming from behind
>prepare for bumrape
>manage to hit and critically hit him
>crashes into the sea
>got some bad hits
>"alright, time for a turn and way back to the landing field"
>on the way back manage to hit a tank and it burns down behind me
>super relaxed and groovy
>suddenly some shitty dickweed with a yellow as fuck plane comes out of nowhere and shoots me down while doing loop-de-loops
>groove ruined
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>when the enemy SPAA shitters rather play Tank-SMGs than watch the skies
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>>170942195
Alright, I'm ditching this trash

Which German/US lines should I go for? Maximum bias preferred
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>>170942109
Exactly two minutes, I look at all of the options before I start playing any game.
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>>170942534
German, Go down the PnZ IV line, the first few are paper but once you get the IV G you get better armor, german 3.7 is brutal across the board. For Bonus points, spam SPAA in the low tiers to make your life even easier
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>>170942534
burgers don't get all that good until you hit tier 3, but once you do, heavies and SPGs are the way to go
for nazis, just go anywhere basically, every line is good and all lead to bundebabby biasmobiles excluding the heavy line
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>>170942109
I can't remember if it was when I began playing
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>>170940913
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>>170942839
>niggering around that much in a bomber
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>>170943008
>8.0 game with my 7.0 max lineup
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>>170941089
ok but
>>
fuck the spitfire mk vc and anyone who flies it
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>Plane sinks through the deck of the carrier and breaks my propellar
>Carrier somehow magically launches me down the runway at 100 km/h when i have no propellar and I tumbled right into the ocean
>Have to wait 7 minutes because crew lock

Why hasn't this bug been fixed yet? It's fucking criminal.
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>>170937806
Why anon?
>>
So I have yet to try playing japanese tanks. Since their introduction I've been a little interested in the sta-1 and tier5 type but I know nothing of the rest of the tree.

What's the general consensus of Japanese tanks? And what of their tier 4 and 5?
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>tfw first tank I kill in Leo is IT-1
Feels good.
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What plane BR has the highest winrate?
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>>170945779
Read that yourself, realize whats wrong with it, and try again
>>
>orangedoom
>when you need to shill but absolutely god awful at the game with joystick
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>>170945838
idk senpai, you tell me
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>>170946049
yeah w/e
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Please give me Coke.
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>>170919210
>>170918265
thanks lads, I had pointer precision on for years now, maybe its caused me to fuck up in other games too but I dont know, maybe I compensated for it unconsciously through muscle memory to avoid its bad effects while its on but I'll try now to play with it off

And mouse smoothing was already off in WT the entire time at least but yeah mouse pointer precision in windows settings was on anyways, fuck.

Why exactly is mouse smoothing bad though? Like just the main reason cause I can't figure it out yet, I guess it can throw off your aim though.
>>
New thread
>>170947792
>>170947792
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>>170941414
ez mode is just blow up a base and go for soft targets, hard mode is loading up on RP-3s and taking out pillboxes, or tanks if there aren't any pillboxes.

whatever you decide to do though, _always_ keep your speed up and remember you can fuck up anyone that interferes with you.
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