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Cunny Rabbits Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play class-based CCG.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

Previous thread: >>170760281
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>5 posts early
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There are days you have 3 PtP in your starting hands.
Then there are days all three stay at the bottom of your deck.
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>>170781245
>play Hearthstone
>lose to RenoLock because he got a Priest Card, that he got from a Mage Card, that he got a Triclass Card that he got a previous Triclass card

You can't play around nothing with that level of RNG

I don't even do dailies anymore, I have like 300 gold on my account and I don't feel like playing a single game on that forsaken game.

Everything tries their best to spit on you
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Finally a game related OP
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>>170781274
How do we fix Sarissa?
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ok lads i got a quest for 4 ranked wins runecraft or bloodcraft... what shall it be?
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>>170781274
PLAY CUNNYCRAFT.
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>>170781337
>>170781470
Aki was my favorite character too.
I still fap to her even after all these years and I still got her Win-A-mat playmat from back then when I played years ago.

I watched most of Arc V hoping she would appear, what a trainwreck of a show holy shit.
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>>170781635
Deport her back to touhou
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>>170781678
>hoping she would appear
Legacy characters were what started the shitfest in that show. You should be glad she didn't appear.
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THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH DRAGONCRAFT

STOP BULLY
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>>170781805
Get Khawy'd into a 25% winrate, Dragoncuck
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>>170781498
>themis it
>can't do shit because of backrow
>next turm they summon everything again and otk you
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>>170781245
Something being shit in another game doesn't excuse something for being shit in SV.

People whine about Dshift for being "uninteractive" but decks like Eggs in MtG don't suddenly make it ok. They also complain about aggro but games like YGO and MtG both have OTK decks that literally kill on their first turn but that doesn't make the aggro in SV any better.
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>>170781774
Yeah now Im glad she didn't, but back nobody knew better, when Arc V was promising and fun to watch.
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>>170782039
Not an argument.
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>>170781643
Aggro Blood is relatively fast and painless.
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Neutralcraft
7pp, rush
5/1

Fanfare: reduce all allied minions attack to 1 and add to this card's attack while this card is on the field.

Y/N?
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>Shadowjews bitch and moan endlessly when they get countered
>Shadowjews get uppity when they oppress a dumpster tier class with a 75% counter match up in their favor the very next expansion
We need führer Eris back in full force next expansion to put these subhumans where they belong.
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>>170782206
Why run this over DoD?
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>>170782234

Not all of us run Khawy.

Just let me midrange/aggro in peace reee.
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>>170782234
I am doing my part and playing banish Haven with 3 Odin, 3 Cudgel, 3 Scripture and 3 of their 5pp banish spell.
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Why did he concede?
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>>170782234
>we need an irrelevant class to save us poor irrelevant dragonbros from another irrelevant class!
meanwhile runeverse roachverse and albertverse continue apace
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>>170782373
kys pedotumor
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>>170782234
>We need führer Eris back in full force next expansion

Sure thing buddy, I don't mind dusting off that Dshift deck.
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>>170782373
You're alright. You're the type of player I think of when I fap to Luna.
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>>170782234
except literally everyone shits on rowen. it's not something we shadowfags are particularly proud of.
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>>170782474

That was a rather mean thing to say.
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>>170782462
Low carb diet.
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>>170782542
dragon beats all other control decks and has good matchups against "mid" sword.

shadow is just even more broken against control decks than dragon is.
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>>170781661
what is her weapon anyway? a lance?
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>>170782373
Kissing you, Luna-chan!
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>>170782791
I wouldn't question designs by Eleveners.
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>>170782206
>7pp
>rush
>1hp
>negative effect
everything is wrong in this card
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>>170783130

There's crafts that could offset that drawback.

I think he meant for it be a card that you give storm via Laura or that new dragon card anyways.
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>>170782791
A carrot.
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Think Rowen!
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>climbing through AA3
>every game is literally against Rune or Shadow
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We need more banishes. Not being able to run 34 banishes +Plea + Themis is a seriously flaw.
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>>170783390
Aggro Shadow?
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>>170781661
okay, now what?
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How do you resist the urge to open packs while saving up gold for the next expansion?
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>>170783604
By already having everything you need.
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>>170783543
Aggro and Nep.

I've climbed over 2,000 points today and 99% of my matches have been against Daria, Dshift, Dirt, Aggro Shadow, or Nep.
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>go through collection vialing extras of cards i have animated copies of
>get another lego worth of vials
option to autovial these when?
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>>170783604
Look at your pic. Recognize the series. Remember how much power creep can occur within months. Realize that RoB isn't going to be shit compared to TotG.
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>>170781363
>45 shadows
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>>170783750
>and 99% of my matches
Why would you lie on the internet?
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>>170783604
Why even bother? They will give out 30 free packs anyway.
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>>170783876
I see nothing wrong with that.
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Post numbers
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>>170783604
>How do you resist the urge to open packs while saving up gold for the next expansion?
by already most of the good cards, plus haven't been getting shit from the free packs lately which just demotivates me even further
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>>170784121
3170 G
14040 V
Deciding whether I want to save all my vials or make a real sword/necro deck.
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>>170784121
Too lazy to screenshot tablet.
Gold: 1915
Vials: 21510
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>>170782072
I thought Arc V was supposed to be good, or at least better than Zexal. Was I being memed or did it just recently go down the shitter?
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>>170784121
have about 3k+ vials worth of trash cards to dust as well
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>>170784121
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Erika has thick thighs
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>>170784275
I don't watch it but I saw some people in /a/ saying it went to shit.
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>>170784121
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>>170783604
Cygames ruling book:
Q: Opponent summons Heavenly Aegis, How can I kill it?
A: Give up :^)

I only have 2-3 decks for ranked (Tempo Elf/Saha Ramp), the rest are Budget/Whatever I can slap into/Neutralcraft for daily.
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>>170784325
That's pretty. GIMME!
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>>170784275
>>170784336
Plot turned into nonsense because all the characters got shafted hard and the protagonist never got any growth, also the worst villain and plot devices from the entire franchise

I can do a TLDR but believe me, shit got really retarded, REALLY RETARDED
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>>170784332
http://i.imgur.com/ESadpBu.jpg
She did
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>>170784647
I'd like a tldr. It's fun hearing about franchises going full retard.
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>>170783604
It's fine to buy packs if you still don't have the essential cards for DE, RoB. Besides, buying RoB packs is wise now if you draw feena/gobu/piercing rune for full vial refund.
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>>170784668
delete this
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>>170784121
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>>170784668
>>170784668
>>170784668
>>170784668
>>170784668

holy shit those are some huge titties
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>>170784681
>It's fun hearing about franchises going full retard
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>>170784275
It started out really strong and ended with some of the episodes with the worst rating in the history of animes. Zexal was mediocre but at least it had based Vector.
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>>170784726
Nobody asked you, faggot.
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>>170784814
what did you expect of someone like him
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need a win pls
78558
sorry if my emotes don't work, I'm playing in nip
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>>170784668
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>>170784121
2000g 35,000v
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>>170784761
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>>170783217
Why is that carrot sweating?
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>>170784814
I posted numbers. Do you want more numbers, shitposter-kun?
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Channeru subs never.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNDnJZvv9-M
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>>170784963
tricked ;)
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>>170784880
ty based churro
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>>170784647
>>170784805
That makes sense. I remember /a/ loving it a year or so ago but now all I hear is how shit it is.
I'd actually like a tldr. All I know recently is that they brought back characters from the past series, like Alexis and Jack Atlas.
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>>170784965
That's no mere carrot.
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>>170782691
>dragon beats all other control decks
Doesn't do much vs Seraph unless they ramp perfectly and draw multiple Odins. Pretty sure Neph and control Shadow also shit on it.
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I've seen CBlood lists running Erinyes recently. What's up with that? Is Erinyes actually good?
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>>170785282
No, 90% of the time she comes out and dies doing basically the same thing as a shitty DoD.
What lists?
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RIP non US player that played Hearthstone.

Its seem Blizzard increased the pack price next expansion.

Oh and no more Adventure Mode.
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Is there a reason nobody uses burial grounds? It and spirit cycle seem like they'd be good in necromancy heavy midrange or something.
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>>170785156
literally all Dragon has to do is play Satan on turn 7 and it instawins against Nepnep and Seraph
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>>170785367
Old news, keep it to /hsg/.
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>>170785367
This is the Shadowverse general, go talk about it in /hsg/.
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>>170784681
>>170785040
ARC V tldr part 1

>yuya and his friends go to a duel school
>yuya entire character motivation is "I want people to enjoy my duels and smile"
>yuya gets magical cards called pendulum that only he can use and starts winning he shouldn't be able to
>several people get interested on him including people from other dimensions, plot thickens
>everyone gets invited to a tournament
>people from other dimensions get into the tournament as well in order to fight each other and turn the place into a fucking war zone
>these people can transform people into cards effectively killing them
>invasors get repeled and Reiji (main rival) gets the idea to get the help of good dimensions in order to right Academia (fusion dimension, nazi like)
>Show was promising as fuck at this point because of several cool duels, cool characters and because everyone liked at least somebody from the main cast, also cool decks

>yuya and his friends go into Synchro dimension
>almost more than 50% of the series goes into this arc, where the characters play in a tournament that nobody cares about, they are separated all the time so we don't even see character interactions and Yuya constantly goes into "my duels don't make people smile, but I WILL MAKE THEM SMILE, but they dont, BUT THEY SHOULD"
>most of the duels are cringeworthy and badly scripted, with miss plays and bad animation, also some of the worst side characters join the cast
>arc ends with Yuya winning the tournament, again nobody cares and 90% of the participants are dead or gone, but magically the dystopian society gets solved up somehow by him winning against the current champion
>Yuzu, his lover, is gone again before they can even talk (they havent interacted for like 50 episodes at this point) and they have to visit the XYZ dimension


CONT.
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why does shadow have a 4pp 7 damage spell
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>>170782462
AW YEAH
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>>170785443
>>170785446

B-but I tthought you're welcoming HS player to migrate into this game..?
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>>170785446
>>170785443

We should prepare to welcome /hsg/ refugee.
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>>170785506
Because they're coming 4u
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>>170785474
really nigga
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>>170785353
Pic related from Game AI Cup, for example.
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>>170785539
>>170785543
They have to go back.
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>>170785539
>>170785543
Not all of /svg/ are Merkel.
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>>170785506
I think you mean an 6pp 11 damage spell.
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>>170782791
Either a lance or a staff.
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>>170785645
No.

They need to come here so we can get more free pack after they fed up the way HS going.
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>>170785539
>>170785543
All we do is post the same intro copypasta when they come here, be it from HS or any other game.

I don't have a problem with HS players migrating but posts like
>>170785367
only serve to start shit.
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>>170784606
She doesn't look like a devil
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Have you bullied an elfshitter today, /svg/?
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>>170785539
>>170785543
HS players can come talk about Shadowverse, not doom post about other games.
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>>170785539
There's a discord who decides what's allowed and what isn't. They're in charge of making threads and run everything basically, a mod and janitor are also in there so they own the place. You better comply if you know what's best for you.
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>>170785840
Because she's a daughteru.
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>>170785156
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
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>>170785840
She's semen devil.
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>>170785645
>>170785689
>>170785543
>tfw you're a triple agent
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>>170785845
Will of the forest. Are you even trying?
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>>170785863
HS not going to be doomed yet.

People's are way too invested in that game to migrate to other card game.
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>>170785708
I think you mean a 6pp 15 damage spell
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>>170785972
Simply a myth, just like Bahamut.
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>>170785474
ARC V tldr part 2

>xyz dimension
>place is a war zone where NAZI CARD GAMES are killing people right and left
>Yuya at this point is EGAO Jesus
>even in such situation and no matters who he interacts with, all he does is start talking about creating smiles with duels even in dead or life situations is wrong
>he several times goes easy on NAZIS because SMILES
>In Synchro Arc, Crow stole the screen time of several characters multiple times
>In Xyz Arc, Kaito basically is shilled to the max, pushes the shit of everyone he duels and never loses, also is a fucking cunt all the time for no reason and his character is nothing like his original counterpart, not even the same deck or archetype
>Anyway, Yuya literally converts all the Nazi Fusion invaders with his EGAO dueling anyway
>Even the sisters that almost killed his friends
>Even the guy that almost killed his dad
>Whatever, he defeats them and they suddendly are good guys helping him
>But they don't actually duel anymore for the rest of the series so whatever
>After converting the entire war zone into a UNICEF Center full of smiles, they go to Fusion Dimension

>Fusion Dimension
>Yuri (the main antagonist by this point, basically evil Yuya) basically defeats 90% of the cast by himself and cards them
>The Professor (leader of academy and former antagonist) suddenly is a good guy because he gives us PLOT
>Basically the 4 dimensiones were one once and he created solid vision duel monsters
>And he had a fucking hot daughter
>So a dude called ZARC, was like the best duelist ever, and he never lost, and people always cheered him
>When solid vision happened, people started to ask ZARC to be a douche bag and kills his opponents because that would be really cool
>and ZARC was like "well okay" and he killed LOTS of duelists
>then ZARC was like "well it could COOLER if I killed every single person on the planet right?" and he fused with his 4 duel dragons and started to kill everyone


CONT
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>>170785845
>always draw Blood wolves over Yurias against forest
>they had elf child may
>get Yurias against Haven all the time
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Why the FUCK are people still playing aggro blood when """"""midrange"""""" sword is strictly better?

I mean, they both kill turn 5-6 but sword doesn't kill itself losing to other aggro decks in the process.
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>>170785282
against aggresive decks or if you draw an early dire bond she becomes piercing rune with a body plus she can kill albert and still live. flood behemoth is also very good right now because of how the meta settled.
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>>170784121
Who needs to buy packs when you can just craft whatever you want?
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>>170786112
Blood has better girls.
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>>170786140
How long have you been playing to get that amount of dust?
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>>170785474
>>170786072
tldr too long didn't read
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>>170786112
because it is not strictly better? blood has more burn
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>>170786214
Since June, only bought the one time 600 crystal pack. Also, I've starred a lot of leggos and gold so I actually have more vials than that.
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Any Dragon leaks for today??
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>>170786112
Maybe we just don't have 3 fucking Alberts.
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>>170786348
Wow.

You must be 1 lucky SoB.

I played since steam release and still never get full collection yet let alone that amount of dust after I disenchant animated cards.
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>>170784121
1300 gold 6000 vials. I had more gold but I bought some DE packs and got my third tia.
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>>170786549
Are you doing your dailies daily?
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>>170786072
ARC V tldr part 3 final

>so ZARC is killing everyone, so the Professor went and created 4 HAX AS FUCK cards to defeat him and tried to duel him, but he was a scrub and lost
>so his hot daughter Ray took his place and defeated ZARC with said cards, but when she did the dimensions got split up, Zarc got split up in 4 dudes (Yuya, Yuri, Yugo, Yuto) and Ray got split up too (Yuzu, Serena, Ruri, Rin)
>So Professor was carding people because somehow if he cards enough people the dimensions will unite again if he used a Machine he created, and that would unite the 4 girls into Ray too
>so he did all this to see his daughter again
>but also that would revive the anticrist, Zarc, woops
>so he tried to kill yuya but couldn't
>Yuri finished killing the rest of the cast including Yuyas dad
>so Yuya is like MOTHERFUCKER
>they duel, Yuya wins and he is like "nah everything is fine because EGAO Im not a monster"
>but woops he fuses anyway with his evil counterpart and the other dudes and ZARC is revived
>so at this point literally the entire main cast does a battle royal trying to defeat him
>but ZARC dragons are super hax and he literally can't lose and crushes everyone
>so Professor tries to duel him with the 4 SUPER HAX cards but loses, so suddenly a character that almost never did anything was like "IM RAY, IM HER REINCARNATION" and she defeat ZARC in a single turn
>everyone forgot everything, reset ending
>so they start the tournament from the very start of the series and Yuya is like "a baby that it's the reincarnation of ZARC and Ray is not smiling, I will save the world making him smile"
>so goes into the tournament and asspulls wins against his friends, wormholes into the dimensions one per one winning duels against his former friends that now are mad because they just are, in order to make the baby smile and save the world
>that's the ending
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What are cblood mirror matches like? I've never played cblood so I wouldn't know.
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>>170786618
Yes but not everyday.

I usually take 1 day break after 6 days to avoid burnout.
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I unpacked 21 standard packs and got ONE legendary (pluto).

Am I just really fucking unlucky?
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Forestcraft 3pp Legendary Amulet
Whenever a Fairy is put into your hand, change its cost to 0.
Whenever a follower is returned to your hand from the area, increase its cost by 1.
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>>170782462
Pity
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>>170786890
3pp literally do nothing
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>>170786878
What anime is this
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>>170786878
why did you have that many standard packs
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>>170787004
>doesn't know source
wtf i thought sv players were supposed to be weebs
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>>170786667
>>170786072
>>170785474
I'm now glad I dropped that. Something about making people smile threw me off so much I couldn't bother to keep up with it.
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I just got d shifted. What can I do about these emotions I'm feeling inside?
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>>170787042
because i unpacked 15 last time and didn't get a single legendary.
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>>170787062
What Chinese cartoon is this?
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>>170786878
The standard pull rate is supposed to be 1 in 9 for legos and 1 in 3 for golds.

I think there might be some sort of BLP system in place though. I was on a recent dry spell of 30 packs with nothing then my free RoB pack today was this.
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>>170787004
It's shit. I watched 2 episodes so I could tell anons it's shit.
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>>170787154
well i got 1 legend from unpacking 36.

what does this mean
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what happened to the undub/uncensor links?

are dubcucks trying to make everyone listen to shitty english voice acting?
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>>170786746
It depends.
If they are Bloody Mary variants, it will be quick.
If pure stall, be prepared to play till the one who decks out first loses
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Ok /svg/ is there a shorter possible game than this
>P1 T1: Bloodfed Flowerbed, pass
Current P1 life total: 19
>P2 T1: Flowerbed, pass
Current P1 life total: 18
>P1 T2: Flowerbed*2, pass
Current P1 life total: 15
>P2 T2: Razory face, pass
Current P1 life total: 11
>P1 T3: Dire Bond, pass
Current P1 life total: 2
>P2 T2: Razory Claw for lethal
Is there a way to have a lethal on the player who goes first's turn 3?
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>>170786878
The pull chance for a legendary is 1.5% per card, so roughly 10.8% of packs will have a legendary.
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>>170787283
There was an updated link in one of the earlier threads but whoever keeps making these never changed it.

>>170787109
>>170787004
It's Girlish Number
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>>170787328
so i should kill myself?
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>>170786878
Standard legendaries are terrible, don't open them if legendaries are what you want, choose Bahamut packs over it any day if op legendaries are what you want.
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>>170787073
And that's just the main plot.

Other problems were that we had characters that were very promising, but never did anything because they were underused.
Cool characters were overused in order to shill their decks, and they became annoying.
Some legacy characters (Jack, Crow, Kaito) were shilled to the fucking max, and stole 90% of the screentime of the main cast.
Some other like Azuka or Edo, only had like 2 duels before being killed off for good and never did anything that mattered at all.
Then we had hundreds of asspulls, filler duels and plot devices that were annoying and then got forgotten.

The last straw is that the Yuzus, basically dissappeared after Synchro and they didn't even came back after the reset ending and the series ends next week.
So literally deleted characters.

Also Yuya is the worst MC duelist of the entire franchise, contrary to Judai or Yuma, he actually regressed and became worse in dueling.
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>>170787370
>whoever keeps making these never changed it.
dubcucks
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>>170787158
I'm not surprised. I like the main characters hair and eyes though

>>170787062
I watch anime extremely slowly and usually don't watch FOTM series, or any current season stuff.
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This Morriana+Laura combo for blood is so fun
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>>170787461
>>170787370
I asked people for a new link to change the pastebin but nobody gave me a link >>170760442
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>>170787385
MFW Saber,Merlin,Moon Al-Mi'Raj,Cerberus,Lucifer,Ancient Elf,Dark Dragon Forte, Prince Of Darkness,Queen Vampire

Suck.
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>>170787479
>I watch anime extremely slowly and usually don't watch FOTM series, or any current season stuff.
I feel you anon, I been watching a 25 episode anime for 6 months now, I complete 1 episode every few weeks and I have a massive backlog of unfinished anime on top of that.
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>>170787158
it's not shit, you're shit.
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Who the fuck thought this was okay?
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70928 10/20 imarealboi69 pls help me finish tonight friends :)
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>>170787712
People who aren't shit
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>>170787712
idk but it sure is fun taking 18 fucking damage to the face from flame destroyers in basically 1 turn with no counterplay whatsofuckingever
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>>170787613
>>170787461
>>170787461
>>170787613

I MADE A NEW PASTEBIN FOR THE NEXT OP WITH THE UPDATED UNCENSOR.

WHOEVER MAKES THE NEXT /svg/ THIS:


Shadowverse is a free-to-play class-based CCG.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/kF9HAAs2
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Is kripp a sandbagger? i just watched a couple of his matches where he uses a seraph deck and the video title says it's a 100% win rate but the decks he plays seem pretty shoddy at best, he literally played against blood with no leggos or golds in it. I can't remember the last time i played against a deck like that, even in T3.
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>>170787637
>Ancient Elf
>Suck
I know this is bait, here's your [you] bud ;)
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>>170787819
fuck off runefag
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>>170787907
>no undub
nice one dubro
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Why this card didnt seen much play on control shadow deck?

Is it because of RNG factor or just Nephthyst is a better choice for valuable card slot?
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>>170787981
Elves sucking is a completely factual statement.
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>>170788017
nice image
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>>170788006
If you can't beat D-Shift by turn 8 you just suck.
t. Dragoncraft player
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Where the fuck did the sword players go? These dshift shitters are running rampant.
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>>170787819
lol yeah, cards that get boosts for having the player play the fucking game take high skill am i right?
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>>170788017
>>170788050

My bad forgot to upload picture
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>have to get Blood wins
>pick control
>three Dshifts in a row
>switch to aggro
>three Midrange Swords in a row
LIKE
FUCKING
CLOCKWORK
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>>170787965
He is not a sandbagger but he is not tryhard about ranked either because he mostly plays when Cygames pays him.
About the 100% winrate, he basically says for example

>I used this deck on Rank 19 (hearthstone)
>And I used it for 5 duels
>And I won all 5 duels I used it
>So it got a 100% winrate ;P

So his 100% winrate means that he won all his game while using said deck, not that the deck always wins or that it's meta viable
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>>170788067
everyone started countering the meme aggro sword deck, so its back to usual programming
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>>170784121
My body is lady for ToG
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>>170787981
No sir I just respond to other anon that said standard card pack legendary is terrible.
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>>170788047
>Elves suck
>Highest winrate deck in the game with silverbolt + whitewolf
Even if your stupidity was correct, that still doesn't imply that ancient elf is a bad card retard.
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>>170788184
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>>170788112
>Help I can't beat a deck that masturbates until T9
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>>170788007
The file he linked only had an uncensor.

If I wasn't lazy I'd rip my own sound folder for the undub.
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>>170788249
huh? no that's why it's perfect.
the game should be played as it's meant to be, in english.
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>>170788248
poe's law's a bitch
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Waiting for response/concede takes too long
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How do I get Forte alternate art?
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>>170788408
500 crystal
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>>170788331

thatsbait.gif
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>8 mana
>summon your 8 mana win condition
>kill 1-2 followers
>heal yourself
>occasionally summon a 4/4 if you're retarded
shadowfags will defend this disgusting card.
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>>170788347
right?
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>>170788248
if by "masturbates" you mean "removes any enemy follower via 2pp spells"

and by "T9" you mean "T7"
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>>170788507
You have way worse stuff at turn 8, so it is excused. Stop whining and learn to beat your opponents before turn 8.
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>>170788547
>my opponent always has the perfect draws and I can never do anything

t. B0 shitter
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is it normal that you can't select/view grandblue emblems/sleeves on steam?
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>>170788408
save those crystals for a street fighter skin instead
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any dimension shift players getting worried that the devs are pulling support for the deck? the only new card that looks useful is enchanted library and other decks are getting strong cards that improve their matchup.
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>>170788746
No. Reinstall your game if you can't do those.
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>>170788812
kill yourself
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Holy fucking shit 8 of my last 10 games have been against dshift

Give me a deck that removes them from this game
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>>170788621
The only thing that's comparable is Seraph. Playing Urd on Mordecai against a control deck is usually the same thing as using countdown reduction on Seraph anyway.
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>>170787652
Im the same pretty much. The screenshot I posted is from a series that I first tried to complete in 2014, then stopped watching 3/4 of the way through. The same happened in 2015 and again last year. Its still my favorite anime despite that though.
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>>170789101
aggro blood or shadow
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>>170789101
Play any aggro
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Anyone mind sharing their aggro blood list?
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>>170789101
Literally any aggro deck will take a big, fat, steamy dump on DShift.
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>>170789178
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/6?hash=1.6.5zWm2.63dOW.63dOW.63dOW.63fr4.63fr4.63fr4.63dOg.63dOg.63dOg.67WPs.67WPs.67WPs.6BFgM.6BFgM.6BFgM.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_p-4.63e74.63e74.63e74.68zBg.68zBg.6BI6S.6BI6S.6BI6S.61LeE.61LeE.61LeE.63gZA.63gZA.63gZA.659nE.659nE.659nE.5_pFW.5_pFW.5_pFW.63fqw

Here's what I use and stole from Para-chan. Pretty typical list except for a couple of things.
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>>170789191
Yes, but control and other combo decks literally CANNOT fucking win the match.
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>>170789101
Don't do it, you'll just queue into one of the decks the dshitters are countering.
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>>170788663
>lol you think dshift draws removal?
>i get nothing but x3 sorcery cache going first every game
The entire rest of the deck apart from your 3 card instantwin combo is removal and card-draw to get even more removal, you disingenuous fuck.
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>>170789634
How is your win rate with it?
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>>170789651
>first two games were against heavy control decks with 10+ wards
>third game was a dshift shitter who forfeited on turn 3
It was worth it
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>>170789645
What does that have to do with anything? He asked for decks that beat DShift, not decks that lose to it.
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>>170789797
>Deck that forces match outcome to be determined entirely by queue RNG
>This is fine and good design
We still don't have a SINGLE, not one, zero, fucking counter cards to ANY spells. Yet, mouthbreathers still want even more fucking removal for every follower that gets released.
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>>170789797
Some people like games where there is gameplay instead of having the server randomly assign wins and losses based on your setup. You came across as defending the latter system.
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>>170789730
Probably a little above 50%. Para-chan's winrate is probably around the same since he's 2nd in MP ranking right now. He's in the top 100 for Vampire wins ranking too. His wins would probably tell more than mine since I mostly only play to do daily missions.
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>>170789882
>>170789908
Calm down, the first anon only wanted to know how to beat dshift and it's been answered.

No one is saying dshift is fine.
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I take Lucifer and Saha, right? I have a Dark Angel. First time drafting haven and I managed to get that 120 rank silver card as well as 3 vet tamers
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>>170789659
Seriously though, how is it in B0?
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>dude just play aggro to beat dshift
>they just kaleido and levi my shit all day
>lose on turn 7
nice fucking game shadowbabs
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>>170790063
I'm in masters. How is it in B1?
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>>170790047
100% left.
Laelia is worthless and Dark Offering is pretty condicional.
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>>170790081
Unlike the D.Shift vs control matchup, D.Shift actually has a chance of winning the game against aggro. It's not favorable, but it's nowhere near the bullshit guaranteed loss that control has to deal with. This is only getting worse and worse though, D.Shift used to automatically fold against aggro, but each expansion keeps giving more consistency and cheap removal, immensely improving the odds against aggro, while still doing absolutely nothing about the one sided masturbation control players have to sit through.
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>>170790107
I'm in A2, and my DShift barely sits at a 50% winrate. Does A2 have some secret that lets them beat it? Should I expect to start winning all my matches as I rank up?

Teach me about masters fampai.
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>>170787907
>>170787907
here, i just made one that has jp voice/uncensor, put that in the pastebin or in the OP.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/016ysnkhenaxkud/sv+uncensor+1.4.61.zip
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Bully nepnep.
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>>170790271
Maybe you're spamming removal wrong? I'm not even the original guy you were arguing with but claiming that dshift doesn't have removal unless they get a perfect hand or that their combo doesn't go off until t9 is just bullshit.
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>>170790308
Thanks anon.
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Need a concede please

53073
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>>170790271
The lower you go on ladder, the more aggro there is. There's a reason D.Shift is always one of the most popular masters decks. There's barely any aggro at all in masters. This changed recently though, because none Blood aggro decks have gotten a lot better, and we got Dorothy. Yet, D.Shift is still fucking immensely popular in masters. No less than 1 out of 3 games is D.Shift for me.
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Is it cool to post Jeanne now?
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>have near-constant control of the board and tempo advantage for every game
>lose two games to Bahamut because I didn't draw my Kawaiis
Removal from T2 pool fucking when?
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>>170790439
Yeah
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>>170790271
You are in the wrong rank, that's all.
Anything below AA2-AA3 is mostly aggro. When you go higher on the ladder you start to face more control oriented decks which is what dshift excels at beating.
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>>170790415
Thanks
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>>170790439
Might as well, she'll never be posted or remember again once people figure out how unplayable she is. Only retards that have never touched the class before think buffing your opponent's followers and pinging your falcons/mainyu/dogs/Reno is fucking viable.
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>>170790439
nope

shes still trash
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>>170790207
Been playing Aggro on the ladder because of all the d-shift, and this is completely true.

Even though I win the majority of the time, it is usually on turn 7, right before I would normally lose. The amount of removal they have is crazy, in addition to big wards, draw power, and even 0-cost followers like Gazer. It's certainly a favorable matchup, but nowhere near the rape that is D-shift vs Control.
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>>170789101
>Give me a deck that removes them from this game
This deck shits on d-shift most of the time. Like any other aggro deck i guess.
>>170790372
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>>170790207
>each expansion keeps giving more consistency and cheap removal
spotted the shitter. dimension shift got like 1.5 good cards from rob and probably even less in the new expo. the deck is entirely draw dependent and only wins because of little timmy wanting to play big 9 and 10pp cards.
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>>170790439
What was the thought process behind that card?

Did they really think it would be decent or see use? Her effect makes Rabbit Healer look like a legendary. Did they just put her in because she's popular, but purposefully gave her a shitty effect so people wouldn't whine about Haven again? I just really don't understand how such a shitty card exists, and how it's a legendary. I'm completely vexed.
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>>170790271
>I'm in A2
of course the dshitter with the ego is always in fucking A rank
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Are ranks even something to brag about in shadowverse?
Considering its virtually impossible to fall in ranks, I don't think its worth measuring who has got the bigger e-penis
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>>170790638
some people hit a skill cap where they can't progress any further, but mostly it's just about how many games you can play and time you're willing to put in.
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>>170790637
To be honest I prefer Wolfbolt, 18 damage in one turn with a whole turn of edging after the wolf dies is amazing.
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As someone new to the game and looking at what is going on, can someone give me a quick run down on the different -craft playstyles?
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>>170787307
Player 1: Flowerbed, procs for 1, P1 at 19
Player 2: Quickblader, hit with him, P1 at 18
Player 1: 2x Flowerbed, all proc for 3 total, P1 at 15
Player 2: 2x Quickblader, hit with all 3, P1 at 12
Player 1: 3x Precious Bloodfangs, 9 damage from Bloodfangs, 3 from Flowerbeds, P1 at 0 if damage occurs regardless of banished bats
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>>170790605
Almost every single fucking deck gets just about 2 "good" (the constructed meaning of the term, as in auto include no brainer better than everything else in slot) cards per expansion. Piercing alone made the expansion worth it for D.Shift.

>The deck is entirely draw dependent
What exactly is this supposed to mean? Are you trying to say D.Shift is even remotely capable of bricking? The deck with more draw power than every single other deck put together? Holy fuck D.Shift defense force is brain damaged. Keep defending your queue lottery match ups.
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>>170790308
Nice virus pal. Can you do for the mobile version? Reinstalling the whole thing everytime is a pain.
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>>170790747
Hit the first link in the OP pastebin. There's some tidbits about classes and stuff there.
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>>170790638
Bragging about? No.

But rank certainly tells you a lot about a player.
Just look at >>170790271 the anon is in A rank and doesn't know why dshift doesn't work as well there. Thus someone with higher rank has to explain to him the reason.

There is a big difference between what is played in Master, AA and what is played below that. So stating whatever rank you are isn't completely irrelevant.
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>>170790737
Wolfbolt and Altered Fate/Disco Dragon are barely below D-shift for me.

I don't think losing to burn damage from the hand should ever be a thing. It's not fun, and there's no way to interact with it. Of course those two decks aren't as bad as D-shift because they lack the consistency and do require player interaction both throughout the duel, and at the finale to pull of their winning combo. It's better than watching a game of solitaire while your followers are just killed off each turn with spells, but I have a strong dislike for from-the-hand burn finishers.
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A lot of shitters in this general to filter. Too bad that they'd never get or stick up with a fucking trip.
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>>170790471
Why this
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>mfw I'm making the climb through AA3

Pray for me, lads.
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>>170790964
Good luck anon.
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>>170790964
Pray for a kickstarter? Hell no, maybe reddit you do.
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Can heavenly Aegis be affected by amulets? They are not cards after they hit the board
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>>170790635
Haven isn't a Spike class, and gets in the way of the enforced 7 to 9 turns game length they're trying to force.

All the bad classes have share a very obvious similarity if you haven't noticed. They all have bad or mediocre aggro packages, and all their true power lies in control cards, and control makes the games go long, which goes against Cygames' design philosophy. They give absolutely no fucks about interactivity, or otherwise they would have long gutted Roach and D.Shift, bullshit from hand OTKs that have been plaguing us since release. But, these bullshit OTKs not only consistently end the game by 8 at most, they also keep control decks out of the meta, making sure Spike gets to ENJOY SHADOWVERSE with his tempo Sword/Rune deck.
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>>170791025
They are not cards? The fuck does that even mean?
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>>170791025
It doesn't get effected by any cards.
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This must be what its like to be a Dimension Shitter.

I'm sorry
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>>170791025
>They are not cards
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>>170790747
Rune is the current op class.

Daria has been the most popular deck this expansion. It wins by shitting out 5 minions on turn 5 and doing a billion burn damage.

There's also dshift which is a control/combo deck that spews removal until it takes 3 turns in a row and kills you around turn 7. You can find out more by watching us complain about it here.

There's also dirt which has very efficient removal but sucks because it doesn't have a way to instantwin turns 7-11 like real control decks do.

Sword is kind of a generic class with very efficient minions. It's just now getting popular again after daria was slightly nerfed.

Forest is a good class that specializes on doing 15 damage in one turn with storm minions. The version that focuses on this combo got nerfed recently so I've seen more people playing it as tempo where they vomit out tokens.

Haven is usually control-y and they have a combo that can autowin win turn 9. They also have a 6 mana card that destroys the whole field. They are why midrange sucks.

I guess I'll continue.
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>>170790471
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>>170791124
>bullying Satan with Dshit

Shame on you, anon.
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Should i learn at least a few crafts before entering arena? I play this game for a month now and reached master recently.
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Why is storm haven so bad now?
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>>170791301
It isn't. Solid T2 deck.
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Winstreaks with Luna!
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>>170790405
>>170790820
here's the android version
http://www.mediafire.com/file/g3wprejd9foygnr/v1461+Folders+a+and+v.zip
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>>170790858
I'd honestly take that over nothing but aggro 24/7. People can yell all they want about interaction but most of the time instead what they mean is smacking face over and over.
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>>170791301
Actually it's the most fun deck in heavencraft.
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>>170791251
Here's what you need to learn about arena.

Is Sword an option? You pick Sword.

No Sword? Is there at least Shadow or Dragon? You go for Shadow over Dragon, but both are okay consolation prize.

None of the above? Quit and don't feed the people who got Sword free wins.

Always go for 2 drops, always. 10 2 drops minimum is the ideal. Always pick 2 good cards, over 1 amazing card, and 1 pure shit card. Don't get greedy with evolves and followers, never fall behind in tempo. If your deck has trash value/end game, you need to push aggressively to end the game, even if your early game draw/mulligan is trash.
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>>170790747
>>170791180
Forgot to mention: Sword has a lot of storm minions so it can kill you fast which is why it's viable against these other control decks that win turn 9ish even when it's being played as midrange instead of aggro.

One of haven's gimmicks is banish (removing cards from the game instead of destroying them) which means it counters shadow, whose gimmick is benefiting when their cards are destroyed. But when they're not getting banished by haven or dirt rune shadow has a lot of op cards that are very cheap removal.

Which makes shadow counter dragon, whose gimmick is ramping into playing big minions. Which is why dragon is bad.

Blood is usually aggro but has a control version that's good against aggro and nothing else.
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>>170791347
Aggro is fine because control is quite strong in this game, and although aggro is generally at a disadvantage in the matchup, it can still win by blitzing fast enough before the other can stabilize.

The problem lies solely with D-Shift existing. It absolutely obliterates control decks which encourages people to just play aggro instead. Sure, it might be an uphill battle against control decks, but it's better than auto-losing every time you run into D-shift. D-shift's very existence is what promotes aggro so heavily and discourages control decks.
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>>170790789
I tried piercing rune but it wasn't that good since you needed levi for it to not suck, and running 3 levis fucks you up in other ways and even evolving more than 1 is bad if you're going first. dimension shift got nothing nearly as good as yurius for blood or albert for sword.

>Are you trying to say D.Shift is even remotely capable of bricking?
it's the only deck in the game where it can be impossible to win if your cards are in the wrong order.
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>>170791240
Indeed.

The only complete deck currently own.

I have to swallow bitter pill.

People's really hate Dshift and now I know it.
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Are they even trying with blood?
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>>170791603
>it's the only deck in the game where it can be impossible to win if your cards are in the wrong order
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>>170791420
This is good advice.

The best advice is remembering that you will never get 10 2 drops. Instead you'll get 20+ 3-4 drops and a shit card like castle in the sky. Even if you play sword. Then you'll get blown the fuck out by that one bastard who managed to somehow get 3 high tier legendaries.

>>170791396
To me that will always be be the most control based havencraft instead of storm. Simply because I hate Aggro and want to ruin their day.
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>>170791603
>and running 3 levis fucks you up
Jesus
Fucking
Christ

Nigger, do you have any idea what you're fucking doing? It's literally, L I T E R A L L Y, the best card in the deck. How the fuck are you people even rank A? Even B rankers shouldn't be spouting shit this blatantly stupid.
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>>170791627
at least it doesn't require vengeance. blood could use some love in take two
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>>170791627
It's just the arena filler card.
They never tried anything with blood anyways
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>>170790858
>I don't think losing to burn damage from the hand should ever be a thing
It's not like you can't play around it. You can gain advantage on board while your opponent have lots of burn cards or place some wards/force them to use burn on your followers.
Against d-shift you can count spellboosts and try to analyze player's hand. Reroll before first turn also helps a lot, it gives some info about their starting hand but it's usually helps more against daria player.
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>>170788763
street fighter 5 is shit and you should feel like shit for even liking that shit you shit

capcom a shit
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>>170791682

Good vengeance cards is literally the reason blood can take two at all, since you cant really make a consistent combo deck in T2
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Huh, so this is how a gay man plays.
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>>170790858
that's funny I'm the exact opposite. dimension shift is one of the only decks I can stand playing because I fucking hate the "interaction" in games like this and hearthstone which consists of nothing but using your guy that you played last turn to kill the guy that your opponent played on his turn over and over until someone manages to "out value" the other, or alternately one deck does nothing but play storm followers every turn.
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>>170791751

Whats wrong with being manly?
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>>170791705
You can theorize all you want but if you can literally do nothing it's nothing but being pretentious, which how most of those matches turn out. They just have everything.
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>>170791420
Thanks, i'll keep this in mind.
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>>170791749
It's less that, and more the fact there's no consistent 10 damage from hand to punish half the card pool being self burn. It helps that the premier combo classes (Forest and Rune) are also the shittiest and least played, which what allows Blood to be playable at all. This has pretty much gone out of the window in RoB though, you automatically lose to Albert no matter what.
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Roach OTK is still strong as fuck. I feel it's still stronger than other Forest variants.
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>>170791771
>I fucking hate the "interaction" in games like this and hearthstone which consists of nothing but using your guy that you played last turn to kill the guy that your opponent played on his turn over and over until someone manages to "out value" the other
Why are you even playing a multiplayer game in this genre, then?
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>only multiple legendaries I have are 2 otomemes and 3 atomemes
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>>170791827
>my opponent always has the perfect draws and I can never do anything
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>>170791771
Why you play card games again?
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>>170791901
More like

>my opponent's deck is a guaranteed win on turn 8, so there's no need for bullshit like "counting spellboosts"
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>>170791771
>literally admits to playing solitaire
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>>170791952
he's clearly a ygo shitter. disregard their opinions, they're subhuman trash.
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In what situations is Alexander better than Fangblade Slayer?

Deciding whether to run 1 Alexanader and 1 Fangblade Slayer or just 2 Fangblades
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>>170792107
Alexander got completely powercreeped out.
No real reason to run him.
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Give me a good Forest deck.
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>>170791627
I don't know about you guys but that's a decent counter to aggro sword and t5 Albert. Just hit your bats/followers to their 2hp followers and you'll have a decent board clear turn 5. They'll also be forced to trade it/run a removal which stalls their aggro. Might see some play on control decks.
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>>170791901
So I'm at turn 8-9 against sword sitting on about 9 hp. Wow, I wonder what fucking card he's going to play on turn 9. I better think about all the different possibilities and play all the wards I've already played trying to survive that got removed by Jenos.

At this point NOT having Albert on turn 9 is more surprising.
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>>170792107
Alexander does not have bane, so it can't kill a lot of shit.
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>>170791502
dimension shift is a control deck you retard. it just has a combo win condition that doesn't even come out until turn 8+.

>>170791662
it's the best card in the deck the first time you play it, then the second time it's saving you but you're wishing you had some other out, and then the third one is worse than summon golem.

>>170791880
because I don't have any irl friends to play mtg with anymore
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>>170792149
>tfw have 2 alexanders, one animated
>hoping cygames will buff their old legends to not suck but knowing they won't
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>>170791992
>>170792180

Aww, how cute!
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>>170792163
Run 3 Flame and 3 Glass and 3 Elf Girl Liza, fill the rest of the deck with auto cards, 75% win rate, trust me anon I'm master.
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>>170792149
Alexander can still wipe boards though, right? That counts for something
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>>170792172

No fucking way Cblood would run this, they dont even run matriarch.
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>>170792063
Not him but what's wrong with ygo? Did you got rekt much by exodia or something? Shadowverse have at least 2 similar decks - dshift, seraph heaven. YGO was quite fun back in the days, just like sv atm.
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>>170792230
They'll just keep piling on the power creep and release a standard mode like HS to very slowly cycle out problematic cards.

No buffs for Alex.Ever.
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>>170792107
They both serve different purposes.

Alexander is an old-fashioned "board clear." He's there to wipe out weak minions late game since sword didn't have cyclone blade before. Fangblade is for closing out matches with his direct damage and for taking down big threats like Bahamut. I'd say Alex is pretty useless since you can use Cyclone Blade sooner than turn 8 and it can be more flexible.
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>>170792230
They will just add spellcards that summon them like Pluto
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>>170792259
Nigger, Dshift can clear your board and still win even if you're behind 5 wards.
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>>170792230
Even if they buff legends that suck, Alex should be one of the last, if no the very last. Sword has the highest quality legends out of any class, buffing their only mediocre legend that isn't even from standard is hardly a priority, when classes have mulitple legends that have NEVER EVER seen constructed play and have been in the game since standard (Skullfam, Jeanne, Fairy Princess, Rosetta, Mythril, Erasmus, Vials Dealer, Meme Dominator, Pluto). At least Fafnir and Zirnitra actually saw real fucking play before being power creeped and the game got too fast for them to ever be playable. But, in the case of cards like Skull Family, he has never seen play, even fucking meme play.
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>>170792321
>decide to play my classic Otohime deck
>run into Cblood
>they always play Matriarch
>mfw

Turn 5 Otohime can't come soon enough.
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>>170792328
>Shadowverse have at least 2 similar decks - dshift, seraph heaven.
Everyone hates them so you're not helping your cause.
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>>170792410
>Turn 5 Otohime
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>tfw when you go "wait, what does this even do?" on a Standard card because you open it animated
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>>170792371
Pls share magical dshift list
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>just count spellboosts, bro

Nigga, you can count these Alberts in my hand and tell me how much good it does you.
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So I just had a game that actually made me feel for a Daria player.

The entire game was pretty much me drawing a Ancient elf every 2 turns then him wiping out the elf by sacrificing half his board. Me dropping another ancient elf to repeat the process.

Then the exact moment I've used 3 ancient Elves and down to one health exactly I draw silver bolt for an exact finisher and win. Kind of surprised the poor guy didn't rage quit.
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>>170792318
You'll want to do that most of the time against Dorothy decks and his 8 cost is way too late for that. He was good when the game revolved around Otohime/Sage and Cynthia/fairy board flood but that's not longer the case. Fangblade helps against Bahamut and other stuff too.
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>spend 3 hours in AA1 with a roughly 70% win rate
>not even halfway to AA2
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>>170792632
>he didn't run DoD

Why would you feel sorry for him at all?
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>>170792606
>Kaleidoscope
>kaleidoscope
>wind blast
>wind blast
>fiery embrace
>fiery embrace
>rune
>rune
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>>170792742
I've been halfway to AA2 for about a month now. I've reached as far as I can go apparently. Doesn't help that I lose the match-up rock paper scissors before the game even starts about every time.
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anyone played this game for more than a year?
I was wondering how many and what kind of promotions cygames made during this period.
I think I will permanently move from hearthstone to shadowverse, and was wondering whether I should spend some dosh(dont mind spending at all since its meme steam bux)
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>>170792816
most dshifts already dropped rune, they're using secrets of erasmus instead
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>>170792991
I don't think this game is a year old.
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>>170792816
>12pp
>4 conditional removal
>requires 10 spellboost dshift and 2 spellboost destroyer

lolokay
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>>170792991
>anyone played this game for more than a year?
No. But:

>I was wondering how many and what kind of promotions cygames made during this period.
They've given out 50 packs or something.
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>>170793089
>implying they don't have that

You forgot that they can still ram your wards with destroyers and hit face on the other 2 turns
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>>170792759
Could of been bad luck there. He seemed to draw nothing but minions after the first Daria and couldn't seem to top deck anything that would break the 6/7 ward dropped every turn.

Then again it was unranked so I really should feel bad for him given he was playing Daria in unranked.
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Can the cannon amulet be affected by cost reduction from the new sword leggo?
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My havencraft t2 finished poorly, but at least I opened this
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>>170793271
what the hell is chorus of prayer?
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>>170793303
a myth, just like dragonbond mage or wyrm spire
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>>170793089
>play some removal
>Dshift
>drop Destroyers
>play some other removal plus hit with destroyers
>play Dshift
>cycle through a million cards with infinite draw
>play some removal and more golems
>hit face
>play Dshift
>hit face

Do you not know how Dshift works?
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>>170793303
put a random cd amulet on the field from your deck. The cost must match this (chorus of prayer) card's countdown. Countdown 4.


It's shit. Imagine taking the value production of Lion + 2/1 bird, but span it over SEVERAL turns.
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>>170793205
Daria is not even good anymore
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>>170792991
The game hasn't been out for a year.

If you are talking about crystal (the premium currency) sales they've done about 3 or 4 from what I remember.

The last 2 were the Christmas and New Year one, 600 crystals for $5 or something like that.

Just buy the first purchase and any other package, I doubt there will be a sale anytime soon now.
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>>170790207
meantime it has 45% winrate while being all that amazing
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>>170791341
Thanks. Although it won't free you of being bullied by me, I'll gratefully drink up that dolphin.
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>>170793483
I dunno if you're shitposting but I wasn't having good results with it until I switched to a more recent version with windblasts and some other shit instead of bricks like DoD and demonic strike.
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>>170790995
Why are those animaids gangbiting the middle anime?
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Maid Leader should be 2/1.
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>>170793524
I am talking about crystals/free packs/vials I just want to know wheter I should spend dosh or this game is as f2p as everyone says it is.
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>>170793543
>Muh shitty jap website ''data''
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>>170793598
I'm not shitposting. Its too slow now since they lost their best play. I mean its not super ''bad'' but its nowhere near the top.
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>>170793543

Ohh look, another one that indiscriminately uses data as a way to make their implied statement seem true
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>>170791751
no, gay men play with a girl leader
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>>170793773
I disagree. Like I said I think the right formula just got shaken up a little.
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>>170792328
I still think that that shit puzzle made Yugi gay.
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>>170793656
I'd be okay with her being a 1/2.
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Can I get a concede, please?

15281
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>>170793670
ive spent $10 and i have the meta decks for every class except forest. i barely played before this expansion hit and i started with 1 legendary, the game throws enough free stuff at you that you can craft whatever you don't open to make most of the decks you want.
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>>170793413
do you? you play dimension shift as soon as you have enough pp to play one and your flame hulks. you don't have enough pp to play other spells unless it's insight or a 0pp firey embrace.
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Fuck this game.
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>>170790207
Control Sword and Dragon decks actually have a chance against D-shift though. Sword has access to a bunch of followers and Dragon can ramp up in peace then drop big guys or storm followers. It's only Haven and and the others who get fucked by it.

>D.Shift actually has a chance of winning the game against aggro

D-shift has something like a 16% winrate against aggro shadow. They get shit on by aggro just as equally as control gets shit on by d-shift.
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>play unranked
>dragon
>dragon
>blood
>blood
>dragon
>blood
>blood
>blood

Really shows you who the cucks of the expansion are.
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Should i replace a 20 rupee mission?
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>>170793970

Not always dude. You always delay as much as you can, and even then you might have 9-7-3 cost dshifts, so that you can easily make comboes while keeping the dshifts rolling.

You almost always have time to use a fiery and embrace after the start of the first dshift, and with those boosts afford the next ones.

2 removals from hand is standard per se while performing the combo, not to mention in Daria shift or whatever you also draw from the draw cards you also get.

Trust me, Dshift always finds away around defence.
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>>170794091

You should save the gold anon
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>>170794012
Bullshit, control will literally never beat dshift unless the most miraculous brick in history happens.
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>>170794091
If you don't have a deck for one of those classes.
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>>170790308
What about the leaders, you shitter? Are you new into that thing or something?
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You will all come to despise this card, mark my words.
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>>170793849
So you replaced DoD and Demonic Strike with Wind blasts? Thats all?
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>>170794221
Why would I despise a shitty Merlin
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>>170794221
This will empower Dshift more.

Literally poor man Merlin.
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When you click on 'Buy leaders' theres a bunch of different 500 coin sets. What does each contain, is it just the leader or other stuff too?
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>>170793670
You don't really need to spend anything. Like I said, there haven't been many sales and I doubt there will be one soon. So you can just go f2p and within like 2-3 weeks you should have enough for whatever deck you might want to build (except for sahaluci decks because they are full of legos).

Overall there isn't a reason to buy crystals, you will get showered in packs and arena tickets. While the dailies get you about 1 pack every 21 hours (sometimes more depending on the mission). It really doesn't take long to have a decent collection as long as you have patience and do dusting everything.
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>>170794268

Remember this post in a month.
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>>170793884
Still looking for somebody.

Doesn't need to be a concede. It'd be nice to play against somebody as well, though I'd appreciate suicide at the end for my daily.
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>>170794221

shitty merlin and its not even a clear winner in the 2 pp category.

Levi is still a broken 2pp evolve card and golem gives 1+/1+ extra stats and a spellboost to your hand for the same cost.

So who knows
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>>170794283
Leader, Emblem and Sleeve.
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>>170794339
>>170794268

>Implying this card can only be used in Dshift.
>Implying a tutor like this isn't strong enough to shift archetypes.

Meanwhile Dwarf Alchemist instantly became a Dirt Rune staple.
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>>170794315
Thanks Erika-dono.
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>>170794271
>>170794268
>Shitty Merlin
>Poor Merlin
>A card that is twice as cheap is somehow competing for the same slot
Other way around retards, Merlin is the shitty Levi. A lot of lists already dropped her, because she's auto lose against aggro without the crutch 1 mana Piercing to bail you out. This card is better in every way when not against control, which D.Shift wins regardless of whether Merlin is involved or not.
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>>170794447
Sorry for not playing, I'm currently watching a movie and didn't want to be too distracted.
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>>170794140
I have a haven deck but i replaced it anyway and got win 4 bloodcraft for 50, so it worked out.
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>>170794431
>Dimension Dirt might be a thing next expansion using Sunoracle

Is not good
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>>170794103
>You always delay as much as you can
that's the exact opposite of what you're trying to do. you want to win as soon as possible. a common scenario is something like dimension shift at 7 and 10 and flame hulk at 2 on turn 8. you can use one wind blast and kill something with evolve, but that's it. the only times you can use a bunch of removal is if your opponent is low enough to kill in one turn, or if you got draw fucked and have 0pp dimension shifts.
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This kills the control.
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>>170794227
I just stole the deck from game ai. But basically it cuts some bricky cards, adds x3 snipes, x2 wind blast, x2 fate's hands, and x2 flame destroyers. All the low cost spells make the fate's hands and spellboost minions a lot easier to get into a playable range.

http://game-ai.jp/24916/
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>>170794530
Support for DShit already killed control.
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Is 38 wins to reach C0 average?
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>>170794530
>card for control archetype
>kills the control

Are you dumb?
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>>170794482
it's worse in dimension shift mirror, the true thinking man's matchup
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>>170794598
just don't worry about it and have fun :^)
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>>170794530
Elana Aegis will kill control and midrange] and Mist Shaman will improve Dshift match up by a lot. I can't believe there are people in this thread who think Aegis is bad because it's "t9 do nothing"
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>play Nep against control blood
>lol turn 7 Yurias
>lol hungering horde your 6pp 6 shadows card for 2

And then they complain about being shit.
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>>170794598
Who knows anon. Just take it easy and don't rush things.
Take your time to learn.
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>>170794431

Are you fucking dumb?

The dwarf alch is a 2/2 2 PP, already cost efficient.

AND it gives you a free earth that can be flexibly be put down when you need it for only 1 PP, which gives much greater control.

And the evolve effect is also better, exactly because Dirt's biggest weakness is consistency between drawing rites and rite proccing.
This fanfare and evolve solves that problem.

You get how dumb you are for comparing the two cards now?

>>170794518

>"you want to win as soon as possible"

What gibberish is this. You just want to win, delaying the combo as long as you can afford it is the best course of strategy. If speed is something that is of concern to you, then you are playing the wrong deck pal.
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So what's gonna be playing during your pack opening fiesta?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAoAaNS-bn8
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>>170794530
There has never been a single tier 1 control deck in the game's history. Rampant combo decks without a single counter other than "just play aggro bro" is what killed control from the moment the game was released.

Standard:both PtP Forest and D.Shift auto wins against every single control
DE: PtP Forest, Tempo Forest, and D.Shift auto win against control
RoB: Roach OTK, Wolfbolt, and D.Shift autowin against control.

Control is a meme in turn 9 verse, the only time they win is when something like Dragon ramps a turn 6 Satan throwing the whole control part out of the window. The game has a strict timer being brute forced by the dev, control will never be anything other tier 2 at the absolute best.
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>>170794530

Arw shoot, What am i gonna do as a Dshift player
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>>170794530
>d-shift is faster
>seraph is faster
>wolf-bolt is faster
>even satan dragon is faster
>"""control""" sword has probably stormed you down the moment you play it

Only one I see it fucking is control blood, but control blood is for cucks anyways.
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>>170794684
But Blood is shit and doesn't have any good cards :^)
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>>170794660

She needs a longer skirt, it always get flipped
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>>170794731
Probably something comfy like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBwNrYGquYk
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>>170794816
>"win 4 matches as dragon"
>oh shit
>5 matches later
>quest completed

uhh shadowbabs?
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>>170794731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxsVzahb7tE
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>>170794739
>d-shift, PtP forest, wolf-bolt
>decks stop being control the second they have a win condition
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>>170792440
>Everyone hates them so you're not helping your cause.
>I hate them = everyone hates them
Looks like we've got pretty "valuable" opinion of not subhuman shitposter. Personally i don't mind playing against d-shift cause i know how the deck works and what to do against them. Just learn your opponent's decks instead of whining or switch to deck that counters d-shift. You can't have deck that is good against everything. Without d-shift game would've been much worse.
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>>170794540
>cuts neutral burn cards
>adds flame destroyers

ugh, lol, ok
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>>170794731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zLfCnGVeL4
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>>170794982
They aren't control decks. They are stall decks.
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Niceboat are you here?
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>had win on next turn with demonic storm
>suddenly heals herself
>4 wards that didnt matter before now matter
>think im about to get guardian sun memed
>*sweating*

I drew revelation next turn and killed her with blood wolf, she almost cucked me with that heal, but the heart of the cards saved me.
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>>170794984
Fucking kek. He probably thought it's Christmas when you ignored hi 1st Albert.
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just got into this shit anime game should i make a good deck or just craft cool meme cards
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>>170794740
Which girl has the sweatiest breasts, apart from Isabelle?
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>>170794986
And? They add a little more finishing power so your board isn't just tiny shit that all trades into one one frontguard general. I guess I don't really care but you should try things out before deciding they don't work.
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>>170795139
Play the classes to find out what playstyle you like
Reroll your account until you get the legendaries/cards for the deck you want
GG easy
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What cards do you guys think it will turn out to be far far better in practice than anyone thought?

A card I'm thinking might turn out to actually be really oppressive is Pucewyrm.

Ramp once while going first and drop him for 6/7 when your opponent only has 4 PP to respond.

The current meta relevant things that could answer it are just Corpse/Necroassassin, Dragon Warrior, Levi+Crimson, and Tribunal from what I can recall.
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>>170794982
>Half the deck is cycle and draw
>Entire game plan is to gather a set number of (a COMBO if you will) to end the game regardless of board state or card advantgae
>Absolutely no regard for hand advantage, or board, all that matters is surviving until you get your COMBO to end the game
>This isn't a combo deck somehow
Control decks don't even fucking exist in this game, the closest we got are grinder decks, and every single deck you mentioned doesn't fit the bill. How the fuck can control even exist in a game with an ENTIRE card (spells) type, and HALF the game (your opponent's turn), being absolutely outside a player's CONTROL with no means of interacting with them?
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>>170795139
Meme cards will do you just fine for the first few ranks. Unless you care about climbing up real fast and hitting a brick wall once you reach AA. The game's generous enough that you get all the good deck cards on the side anyway.
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I just annihilated a dshitter by turn 6, feels good man, fuck all you dshitters.
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>>170795130
Either way, Timeless couldn't kill Albert in 1 hit and then the Quickblader can hit it back.
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>>170795073

Wrong.

If you only use that way of talking about a deck you could say control is stalling too, because it uses Inevitability as a win factor in some cases.


Those decks you mentioned or combo decks, yes they "stall" for the combo, but its still combo.

>>170794982

Depends how they win anon. Dshift does not have more card value or Inevitability in the old MTG sense. It wins by a combo. Creature for creature it would lose to a real control deck like Dirt or control sword.
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>>170794731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVeUy3zc2vo
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>>170795223
Tribunal?
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>>170794684
And then you played Nep and won, right?
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>>170795223

I think that no one has any idea how much they are about to get cucked by this fucker.
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>>170795223
>Beatstick will be good
They never fucking learn. The answer to your question is Beetle Warrior.
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>>170795205
i'm a big fan of the 2 massacre wurms i opened for blood. seems good in the same kind of deck where you would want to play the angel that resets your evolves.
is control shadow a thing? shadow has some cool bombs
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>>170795380
>playing Nep into Yurias.

It's like you WANT to kill yourself.
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>>170794731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_Tlbf9sm50
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>>170793656
>>170793876
Yeah, 1/2 would be nice.
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>>170795223
Eggs will be OP
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Alright /svg/, which one?
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>>170795439
Only if they do actually start working from turn one until overflow.
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>>170795458

All of these are about the same. Just pick the one you like the most.
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>storm haven vs aggro bats
>he's at 16 health
>ignores my 6/1 and goes face with his 1/1 bat
>thank him
>Hm?
>he dies
Do these fuckers even have brains? There was literally no way for me to win if he made that trade.
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>>170795223
Aina has potential to be dangerous. Little Soulsquasher can be Levi-tier in terms of board control. Beetle Warrior will be strong as fuck, Sukuna is scary too but I'm unsure about her.

Another card that everyone completely ignored is Arriet. The card can literally grant double strike to any follower that survives a turn. Think Urd with Storm cards but stronger than that since Arriet restores health, it can be played to control the board as well.
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>>170795458
Shadow is second only to sword in t2.
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>>170795414
Control/Mid Blood is actual masochism right now, but it'll be a lot better once the next expac hits. Control Shadow is currently doing great though, mostly Nephthys decks but I've heard of at least one non-Nep variant as well, although I can't speak for its effectiveness.
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>>170795265
>i play paper and lose to scissors
>cygames pls fix
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>>170794731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZdBWYiVlHM
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>>170795619
>Control/Mid Blood is actual masochism right now, but it'll be a lot better once the next expac hits
I've been hearing this line since August, I swear to fucking god. We changed fucking general before control Blood got a single decent card, holy fuck.
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>>170794492
Why she wears pantsu on her head?
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>>170795519
I honestly had it happen to me once, too. I was making the motion for the very obvious trade and instead my follower went face. Lost that game because of that weird fuck-up, of course.
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>>170795223
I think it might see play against control decks.
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>>170795223
Elf Butler which can be reduced to 1 or presumably 0 if there is no limit to the times it can be reduced. Really useful with Crystalia Aerin on turn 7.

The beetle for forest as well. Stat wise on turn 5 it will have only 1 less health than Albert and comes with two 1/1s on the field as well to trade or deal extra chip damage if need be.

I think wolf-bolt/tempo will be strong in ToG just from these cards alone, and they haven't even shown us the legendary cards yet which could potentially create a new archetype.
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Daria players are the biggest god damn cunts in this entire game.

Fuck you for ruining this for everyone.
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I got smashed by deathly tyrant
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>>170795823
If there is a way to play, people will play that way. Fuck Cygames for make it, not the players for playing it.
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>>170795812
>Elf Butler which can be reduced to 1 or presumably 0 if there is no limit to the times it can be reduced

People are really overlooking this card. Every time control Forest plays a Wolf or a Lion King they could potentially have a 1 mana 5 hp ward to play with it.

It would set up stuff like turn 7 Lion King into Vist and Turn 9 Wolf into Vist.

Very powerful card.
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>>170795367
Haven's 4 PP removal amulet.

>>170795389
Him plus Fairy Beast are going to cuck aggro to the next millenia. Well if games get to turn 6.

>>170795558
I said Tsubaki for 12 combo when she was first revealed, but nobody seems worried about that for some reason.
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>>170794731
https://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=S6kxau0ePlg#!
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>>170795891
Yeah, control/wolfbotl forest would be a thing for sure. Vist and Aerin are really powerful and we still don't know Forest lego yet. If it's Yggdrasil, she will have something to do with healing for sure.
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>>170795645
koish?
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>>170795923
>Tsubaki for 12
That's pretty disgusting, yeah. Now that you say it, that's a crazy finisher for an Ambush Sword in general. Arriet's awesome.
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>Open the promo pack
>Get 3rd sahaquiel
>5 packs has given Animated albert, wolf, wolf, sahaqiuel

>>170783552
Come TotG, you can run them with noble fangs, protectoress, cloud chorus, prayer of protection, valhallan general, white knight, Jeanne, healing prayer, holy water, love's gospel, shrine knight maiden, mist shaman

Eventually they'll stick on the board for a turn for you to drop target immunity on them then run away with it.

>>170784250
Just play it. It's better to have fun for a month since the meta is gonna shatter anyway.
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>>170795891
>>170795923
I feel like Aerin is gonna replace Fairy beast due to her better stats/ward plus strong enhance effect if you absolutely need it. Though the combo with the massive heal from fairy beast plus his ward might be better to stop burn damage.

Either way the combo will be strong. I just like the idea of the Aerin + Butler turn 7 /ss/ aggro cockblock squad.
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>>170795741
If Sword gets a few more good Commanders that don't rely on Officer synergy like Monika and Albert, I can see this being complete cancer. It's also another way of controlling the board without having to spend evo points, and we all know how much they need those.
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>>170781274
http://www.strawpoll.me/12512283
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>>170795309
>spend the entire game stalling for 1 card
>I-Its a combo deck
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>>170796149
>surviving to turn 7 against aggro
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>>170796057
With the advent of commander support and Arriet, I'm pondering the creation of a Sword deck whose only officer is Tsubaki just so she can be 100% tutored with Avant.

Goblins, Unicas, Bellringers, Lyrials, and Angels for early game, White Paladins, Amelias, Gawains, Alberts, Luminous Mage, Support Cannons, Monikas, Otohimes, Frontgaurds, and Avants just to draw Tsubakis for potential combo with Arriet who would be the one inconsistent part. Throw in a Bahamut or two if games go on until T10.

It will be an expensive as fuck deck, but the potential seems astounding.
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Dshift is getting support because they're finally adding a card that counters it
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>>170796306
and what's that card?
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>>170795558
>Sukuna is scary too but I'm unsure about her.

I think Sukuna might be good in Tempo Forest when you are flooding your board with fairies to set up Wind God/Cynthia.

Then again, Tempo cant really afford any more two drops.
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At least Heavenly Aegis isn't searchable s-so far, right g-guys?
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>play a control deck
>meet dshift
>might aswell instant concede and save my time, it doesn't make a difference

Why is this allowed? How can such a cancerous deck be allowed where you already know you have lost at turn 1? There's no maybe I can turn it around if I play good. There's no maybe I hope my enemy bricks. After a certain rank, when people have a finished deck, you might as well leave.
And the worst thing is, why do people defend this shit?
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>>170786112
Integrity
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>>170796354
and not spellboostable :^)
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>>170796293
Seems very memey but fun. Tsubaki + Arriet is still a 2-card combo for 12, while Albert is 1-card for 10. The upside is that Tsubaki interacts with the board when you play her, so you don't just do 6pp do nothing. And it's a T7 12 damage instead of T9, I guess.

Maybe you can add Gabriel as well for consistency, same PP cost, same purpose. It's a 10 damage burst instead of 12, but y'know.
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>>170796293
>>170796156
I'd like to try using Leonidas with Support Cannon.
Turn 9 or earlier Leo+Cannon, if they don't Odin then even if they Bahamut you get to use the Resolve to finish them with a Albert or something.
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>>170796293
The potential is shit when you can just play Albert and other rush and storm shit.

That's the problem with these OP as fuck do everything cards. They stump any sort of creativity because anything will be inferior.
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>>170796275
Ancient Elf, May, Sylvan Justice, Fairy spam, WotF. It's not hard for forest to deal with early aggro.

It's sword that's the bigger problem since the aggressive sword decks like the Albert one are built to go all the way to turn 9 if need be.
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>>170796369
>play a deck that cockblocks aggro
>cry when you get cockblocked
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New meta right here
>instant quit
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>>170796263
I said this previously but an objective way to determine if decks are 'meme decks' would be nice if we do that one.
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>>170795558
Arriet is the win con for ambush royal since they only have to hit 8-ish to kill.

>>170796293
Gawain's an officer apparently

Ironwrought's pretty neat too for runaway value. Support switches from using storm from arthur's light to trade then face into just being able to play support cannon commanders to clear the way
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>>170796369
As decks become more specialized so do their counters. You get to stomp aggro matchups, DShift and other combo decks get to stomp the shit out of control, and aggro decks stomp the shit out of DShift and combo decks.

If you truly wanted a deck that could possibly win no matter the opponent's deck, you'd play a midrange deck and play a variable strategy entirely dependent on the opponent.

Instead you play control and play a slow game of restriction just because it's what tickles your fancy, not because you believe in some core value of interaction.
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>>170796580
>expecting to draw all those cards against perfect curve aggro.
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>Be at AA3
>Beat a Dshift by the skin of my teeth

>+10

What in the FUCK is THIS BULLSHIT

I'M 800 POINTS AWAY FROM MASTERS AND YOU PULL THIS SHIT ON ME??

10 MEASLY FUCKING POINTS?

GIVE ME A GOD DAMN BREAK

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK

I JUST WANT TO GET TO MASTERS

10 POINTS FUCK YOU WHAT THE FUCK
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>>170796790
It's +100 you're just blind.
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>>170796790
That's not possible, calm down bro
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>>170796790
Stop fighting people from A2
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>>170796702
False equivalency. Aggro has a better chance of beating control than control has of beating dshift. And there's more interaction with the aggro player deciding how to play around removal. Rune has cards to remove fucking anything, you just have to hope the solitaire player didn't draw them.
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>>170796591
That'll be determined once (if) that option is chosen. People were throwing ideas around last thread so i think we'll figure something out.

But the poll is pretty close again isn't it. I think i'll reuse this poll for the next few tourney as well. I'll always leave out the previous top option so we can go through most of them eventually.
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>>170796748
You don't have to draw them all, just one or two.

Every forest deck is also required to keep a low curve because of how it's combo system works. If you think forest is bad against aggro I think you're mistaken.

The only reason it might seem bad right now is because of all the people still trying to play OTK and removing their good 1 drops and 2 drops so they can pull roaches. It pretty much destroys their early game against aggro.
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>>170794598
I just wanna make sure im not going too fast, Im worried the streaks are going to put me too high too fast.
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Somehow i am not satisfied.
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>>170797119
How did he know you had the one shot for next turn?
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>>170797179
He was probably expecting Howl next turn.
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>>170797119
He knew you had coco+mimi+some storm and didn't have a way to stop you
>>170797179
It's called paying attention to the cerb cards.
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>>170797179
Dshift is the thinking man's deck that requires extensive knowledge over all matchups
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>>170795680
To be fair, Spiderweb Imp alone makes the deck a lot better, and I think Belphegor will prove to be pretty useful too. Baphomet can also help a ton if playing him at 5 mana doesn't turn out to kill you, since he can fetch things like a 6pp Temptress.

Also, technically control blood can be played right now, the downside is that the best version of it at the moment, at least in my experience, is purgatory.
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>nep shitter played bellringer, feathered patroller, spartoi soldier, foul tempest and 2 pacts with the nethergod, not counting a skullcradle widow

still lost at turn 6 to a mere aggro blood who didn't even go first

2378 is good vs aggro i swear :^)
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>>170797225
>he knew you have coco + mimi

Yes

>+some storm

Literally impossible to know. Sometimes they don't have it and you can still win. What kind of faggot concedes before their opponent actually shows they have lethal.
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>>170797225
That may be but he still has no way to know, conceding too early based on a prediction that could be wrong is silly, this is why bluffing and emoting before an apparent 'finisher move' works to get people to concede.
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>>170797327
because what nigger aggro shadow does have howl in their hand you fucking retard

you have 3 cards on turn 8 that you've probably been jacking off with for multiple turns. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out.
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>>170797179
That's why it's called smart man's deck. Good d-shift players can easily see your entire hand.
>>170797225
> He knew you had coco+mimi+some storm and didn't have a way to stop you
Well, it's not 100% guaranteed that i have either storm or howl.
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How can isaboob or hag even compare?
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>>170797327
He conceded at 1PP left. Lyrial is alive on his next turn. Lyrial evo + coco + mimi = 9 dmg.
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>>170797179
lyrial evo + coco + mimi is exact lethal
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>>170797327
Isabelle has practically no way to heal or ward consistently and unless he had a way to lethal you from 17 on hand within the next few turns then he's just basically waiting for you to topdeck storm and lose.
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>>170797395
>jew

pass
only pure aryan wife eris for me
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>>170797326
Aggro doesn't need to go first. Control gets shafted harder than going first than aggro does going second.
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How do your read the description of summoned followers like Otohime's Guard?
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>>170797395
Who?
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>>170797405
>>170797396
Here is the real answer
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>>170797405
Oh yeah true, I overlooked lyrials effect.
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>>170797179
She had 9 health.
Lyrial plus evo = 4
Lyrial's evo effect = 1
Coco (telegraphed by Cerb being played) = 2
Mimi (telegraphed by Cerb being played) = 2

4+1+2+2 = 9
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>>170797450
click on the white word for their name
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>>170797396
You're right, he had it on the board I overlooked that, but my comment was mostly at the fact that someone said he knew he had storm which is ridiculous

>>170797421
>unless he had a way to lethal you from 17 on hand within the next few turns
Yes, the mystery of how someone playing rune could lethal you from hand on turn 8.
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>when the aggro concedes after a turn 4 sahaluci
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>>170797502

>>170797471
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>>170797504
That's just the ability screen

I want the lore screen that tells the backstory of the follower
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>>170797524
>>Yes, the mystery of how someone playing rune could lethal you from hand on turn 8.
>5 cards
That's a struggling dshifter if anything
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>>170797563
you can't afaik
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>>170797396
He could've had fiery embrace at 0 cost. It is 7 turn anyway. I think he just knew that fighting is useless.
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>>170797563
go to shadowverse gameportal website
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>>170797563
You either wait for it to show up on a loading screen which may never happen, or check it through shadowverse portal. There's no way to properly check that in-game, sadly
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>>170797580
>>170797646
>>170797656
Cygames please, this is retarded
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>>170797437
Aggro needs to go first against aggro though. Especially with go to go quick man dropping on player who's playing 2nd can be slapped with your 1/2 on the next turn while dropping your 2 drop.
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>>170797579
Sometimes 5 is all you need
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>go into ranked as Shadowcraft
>have some Nep netdeck that I don't even have all the cards to
>opponent is Dragoncraft
>redraw all my cards and get quite brick-ish hand
>they concede before they play even a single card
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>>170797930
What rank?
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>>170797930
They were already conditioned to auto concede to shadow, like shadow does to haven and any control to Dshift.
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>>170797930
Kawaii is so oppressive that the mere sight of Luna scares dragon players.
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Have you praised your Immortal Thane today?
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>>170798064
But dragon can fuck shadow with aggro deck.
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>>170798090
>not immortal
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I don't care if your winrate is garbage, I completely resent ramp Dragon and your fucking Saha Luci bullshit.
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>>170798202
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>>170798064
>like shadow does to haven
I don't think the matchup is that bad anymore. Definitely better than dragon vs shadow.
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>>170798238
>You can make 9 more for up to 12 in a game
Okay so he's not a morde I'll give you that but still
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>>170798260
>I don't think the matchup is that bad anymore
It's playable but any heaven deck has clear advantage.
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>>170798217
I know, but people fell for the Saharamp meme and refuse to play anything else because so shitty website said it was T1.

>>170798260
You can play early Satan against Nep or have Odins and win. You can literally do nothing against Seraph as Nep.
Aggro can win and lose against both.
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>>170798324
>heaven deck
>heaven
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>>170798036
C3

After that, I lost to dshift. Then I won against Roachcraft without getting any mordes despite playing one Nep
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I wish there is an option just to redeem Take two rewards at beginning rather than going through all 5 matches
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>>170798451
You know you can just press quit button?
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>>170798451
Just concede then
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>>170798451
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>>170798451
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>>170798451
yeah me too
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>>170798451
I wish there was an option to remove all ESL niggers from this board.
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>>170796893
To the Aggro player, playing around DShift Rune is similar to any other control deck.

Rune's actually one of the easiest to play against. Compare with Haven.

Forest has Elf Girl Liza which cucked Rune harshly in DE and was completely useless against Haven until the introduced Lion Spirit.

Sword has a mass amount of Storm followers to deal damage from hand, whereas Rune only has healing and wards playing dirt, Haven has healing and wards as a matter of course.

Shadow has a massive amount of sticky last word followers which need to be taken out in sequence to properly clear as well as Phantom Howl for massive reach potential. Which class runs the one mechanic that completely counters last words as well as wards and healing.

Blood sports Storm, Reach, and Vampiric Fortress. Rune might do a bit better here, but Priestess and Temple Defender or a strong amount of healing will win the match definitely.

Daria Rune floods board to the point only the most thorough board clears can deal with it. Haven has Lion Spirit and Themis, Rune has Fire Chain(needs an excessive amount of spellboost) and Calamitous Curse(won't get rid of anything with more than 5 defense which includes evolved Darias or Oglers).

Haven has Mainyu and Storm Amulets. DShift only has Petrification and Kaleido out of their entire deck to deal with amulets and Fire Chain is their earliest spell counter to Mainyu.

Aggro players can play around DShift because they actually play something. You essentially do the same as DShift in any control deck, but you don't end with a surefire combo that simply ends and wins the game. Instead you just slowly whittle the player down. DShift does not have the best stall game, it simply has the hardest wincon.

In that way, in terms of decks that "control", DShift>Seraph>Nep>anything else.

The kicker isn't that these decks are hard countered by DShift, it's that they're literally built to play along to the same point.
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>>170798341
>refuse to play anything else because so shitty website said it was T1.

Face dragon was all dragon had last expansion and I assume people want to play something different. The only new alternative Dragon was offered was discard and Cygames failed terribly to make that even remotely viable. While saharamp is not amazing, it is still much better than discard.
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Why do I even bother fucking play Queen Vampire against Rune there's always both god damn fucking shitting Kaleidoscope Glows they're always both there and they ALWAYS burn the ONE card I needed to win it ALWAYS happen why do I even BOTHER I'm literally crying

So many of my cards are just DEAD I can't straight up use any of this shit I'm always going to play into SOMETHING
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Very high skill game
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>he didn't have 1 damage
I feel like I just won the lottery
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>>170798090
>12/9 worth of value from 7PP
Uh, shadowbabs?
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>>170798437
if you dont pull mord with nep your decks built wrong
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>>170798720
>dies to calamitous
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>>170798720
And the wight king gets ward and bane if you have the negromancy
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>>170798657
>>170798657
Is today Albert appreciation day?
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>>170798720
just themis it bro
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>>170798706
>7 cards in hand

HOW
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What the fuck, cygames?

https://youtu.be/7J6XBdn4pnA
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Is Ancient Alchemist x2 ok for dirt rune or do you need 3?
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>>170798778
>>170798806
>dies to removal, don't play it
Oldest meme in the book.
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>>170798875
you just have to play aegis
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>>170798720
How is this nigger only a gold when he's arguably more usefull than Hector most of the time? Also with cards like this, what is the point of having a normal wight king anymore? They should really do something about that and all the legos from the enhance "spawn a lego" cards.
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>>170794692
>delaying the combo as long as you can afford it is the best course of strategy. If speed is something that is of concern to you, then you are playing the wrong deck pal.
You NEED to orchestrate your win on turn 8 or you die to albert on turn 9. Or have a summon iceform + enough removal to keep the golem alive on turn 8 going into 9.
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>>170798706
>cards that could've won that guy the game:
Quickblader
Mentor's Teachings
Lyrial
Angel of the Word
Novice Trooper
Alvida's
Another Albert

That's 20 cards total though probably overcounted considering he probably used some of the cards earlier.

So yeah, you pretty much won the lottery considering he has 7 cards in hand and only 30 cards left in deck.
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http://imgur.com/a/mCIVz
This is what people should do to Swordshitters.
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>>170798846
Why the Koreans are disliking that video?
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>>170798941
Only if you fuck me after
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>>170795389
Do you guys think Rise of Bahamut is a Moot reference?
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>>170799001
You read too much Juan Gotoh for your own good.
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>>170798908

He is secretly the third shadow legendaries if you include that desert rider.

That said, Thane and Eachtar both go hand to hand enough to be played together. Probably 3 thane and 2 each.
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>turn 5 tribunal
>turn 6 new tribunal and hallowed dogma on old tribunal
>turn 7 hallowed dogma on new tribunal
>turn 8 seraph
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I'm done with this game guys, later.
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>>170798939
Oh yeah, and Dance of Death which is probably a 2x so 22 cards.
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>>170797395
>2.44mb and its low quality image

why
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>>170798920

Depends on the game. No matchup is the same, and even the same matchups get different depending on draws
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>>170798563
Dshift damage and mana costs are more variable. At some point you just have to hope that card your opponent has been boosting all game isn't fire chain/their wind blast doesn't quite kill your follower/etc.

Also other control decks use wards to slow down aggro so setting those up so they're the least efficient to kill or killing them most efficiently is interactive. Also choosing whether to go face vs taking a good trade for the aggro player. Those are choices you never make vs dshift. You just spam as many minions as you can and hope they don't have the right cards to kill it all.

But that's all an aside because the important comparison isn't (aggro vs dshift) vs (aggro vs other control). It's (control vs aggro) and (dshift vs control). The gameplay is exactly the same for everyone playing vs dshift: you spam minions as fast as you can and hope they don't have the right removal.
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>>170799118
see u 2morrow
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>beat all the Elite AI with Sword
>not a single loss
Sword OP pls nerf
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>>170798848
2 is fine. She's pretty slow right now, given how you are basically dead before you can drop her golems on turn 6.

Use 2 of her but she will mostly be played against control.
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>>170799390
I one-shot all of the E2 AI except Arisa who ALWAYS had the perfect AE curve every game.
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>it's one of those days where you just can't win a single game
This game is bad for my heart.
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>>170798939
>Mentor's Teachings
Not all Swords use that
>Angel of the Word
Not all Swords use that
>Lyrial
Not all Swords use that

Rest is pretty spot on though
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I just came back to the game after like a month off.

For WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE did they complete destroy Roach but leave Daria with a tap on the wrist?
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>>170799614
forest is still cancer
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Reminder that if Cygames ever planned to nerf Sword they would have done that by now
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>>170799614
Because that's all Daria needed, she's trash now, everybody moved to sword.
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>>170799614
>gobu can pull 1 drops
>COMPLETELY DESTROYED
Could you exaggerate more, please?
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>>170799390
>losing to the elite 2 AI
>losing to any of the new chapter fights

This seriously didn't happen to anyone right?
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>>170799614
Big boobs > fllat chest anytime
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>>170798064

implying with saha-luci, fervor and odin bs they aren't a tough opponent
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>>170799614
>complete destroy Roach
play a real deck instead of super focused otko combo faggotry. problem solved
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>>170799614
>complete destroy Roach
>still above 50% winrate
>next best deck after T1
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>>170799706
I got meme'd by Eidolon of Madness and also bricked in the same game but other than that no
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>>170799706
The new story chapter guys fucking cheat, how was I suppoed to know he was going to pull out a fuckhuge runeblade summoner and give it storm.
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Play a game against dragon with havencraft.

Totally master the board.
He bahamut
Fuck I cocytus it, add ward, and seraph next turn
He odin
Damn, i should have predict it, never mind, refill the board with my hand full of cards
He bahamut second time

I gave up. I SERIOUSLY think some cards must be unique.
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>>170793008
I am still using Fire Chain in my D-shift deck instead of Secrets of Erasmus. Isn't it better?
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>>170799690
>Make a card that improves consistency of the game
>Makes game more reliant on skill than simple card draw

Cygames: FUCK THAT BACK TO WHO DRAWS BEST WINS!
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>>170799549
Hate this feel.
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>>170798846
teena the goblin breaker is so well fed irl :3
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>>170799718
t. 12 year old
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>>170799791
Don't worry Havenbros. Aegis doesn't give a fuck about Baha.
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>>170799614
Roach had like 1% more win ratio than Daria so it had to be gutted.
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>>170799614
Roach is still pretty powerful.
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>>170798976
The lulrandom ads that you usually spot in JP commercials just doesn't work in Korea. To them this is guac boy tier.
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>>170799089
Odin it.
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>>170799671
id rather they give the pet class treatment back to elf again tbqh

at least combos are fun and require thought somewhat while swordcraft are just ->play follower evolve storm, its linear and boring. the class theme is generic as fuck too.
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>>170799815
Roach wasn't a skillful deck, try playing a card game with actually complicated decks then come back
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>>170799834
DO NOT SEXUALIZE VANIA!!!!

reeeeeeeeee
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>>170799390
I did it with saha ramp, big whoop.
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Where are the new cards?

Also, no legendaries for Dragon posted yet?
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>>170799940
nobody does
she just innocently lift her legs
it's all your dirty thoughts, man
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>>170799940
What? Sexualization is the only thing Vampia is good for.
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>>170799296
>The gameplay is exactly the same for everyone playing vs dshift
If you want to be that reductive you could make the same argument against any deck archetype. There is an optimal strategy to beating any particular archetype, skill comes from identifying slight variations and nuances and playing around those. The optimal strategy to beating dshift is playing a lot of small followers, as dshift usually only runs one or two fire chains, and hasn't always spellboosted it enough to clear the opponent's board, and once it's used they probably don't have another (spellboosted) one in hand.
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>>170799978
Zeus which is meh and Israfil which is pretty good.
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>>170799724
>tough opponent
>webm titled "fuck saha"
>still got completely carried by removal + 13 health heal from Khawyz

Really fires those neurons
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>>170799920
My game before this was YGO and say what you want about that game at least decks are consistent and draw RNG barely matters.
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>>170799983
delete this
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>>170800047
it was a very lucky topdeck

that shitter healed 10 points with two fervors and luci/
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spicy
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>>170799998
WTF dude.

Its Vania not Vampia
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>>170798846
>>170798976

>dont portray weeaboo waifus as fat chicks

I can hear the screeching from here.
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>>170800110
>That shitter healed 13 and removed a 13/13 with Nephtys
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>>170799724
Really shows how broken of a card Nep is. 1 or 2 more strong last word followers that aren't in the 7 or 8 spot is all it's going to take to make it t1.
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>>170800069
what's wrong?

it's vampy innocently stretches when she woke up at morning or something
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>>170800149
>Vania
It's Vampy you giant faggot.
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>>170796581
This a million times.
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>>170800060
Well if everyone who plays Shadowverse came from YGO I suppose that explains why they're all defending the absolute cancer decks, SV really is a balanced and slow game next to YGO
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>>170799724
>removal+heal for 13 + 10/10 stat
>complain about the saha-luci combo

shadowshitters sure knows no shame
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>>170800223
>It's me, Vania!
lmao ok
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>>170799296
That very strategy is Aggro's strategy against every single control deck. DShift isn't exactly unique in that scenario.

Play around removal(Rune's is far from the hardest to play around) and push for lethal at every turn.

If you're paying attention, you'll count their spellboosts. If you have the eyes of a God you'll actually pay attention to what cards they play from their hand(it's a very subtle shimmer) and what card has what amount of spellboost.

What makes DShift different and harsh to control decks is having the hardest wincon out of all of them. That you need to play a certain way isn't the problem. It's the fact control decks are built to play to the same point(probably better at it), but have a far less harsh wincon.

Winning against DShift is about pushing for lethal, establishing board is only one of the means to that end and several classes have decent options just for dealing with Rune.

Your control deck will always get boned simply because it plans to go the distance, but doesn't actually have a plan for when it gets there whereas DShift's plan is to win. That's the caveat of making a pure control deck rather than Midrange or combo itself.

The more diverse the classes remain, the higher the chance there will be a significantly lopsided matchup. Decks will never be 50/50 balanced. If there's an extremely favored matchup, then a deck will need to adapt.

One of Shadowverse's tenets is to avoid grinder games so all those hard wincons are designed on purpose. Pure value control will never exist in this game due to that philosophy.
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>>170800003
You're avoiding the point. There are best ways to beat other decks. There is only one way to beat dshift. Decks have win conditions other than 'hit them as hard as possible as early as possible'. They just have to ignore deck specific win conditions when playing vs dshift because its win condition is uncounterable and stupidly early.

>The optimal strategy to beating dshift is playing a lot of small followers
I already said the strategy against dshift was spam as many minions as you can. Also don't pretend "have a lot of small minions" is gameplay as opposed to deck choice.
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>>170800223
>Til this retard pronounce Vania as Vampy

Its ok anon, I don't understand you
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>>170800110
A single fucking card in your deck was capable of healing for 19 points of damage and removed two enemies.

In a single turn you removed a 13/13 and healed for 13 while playing a 5/5, and yet you sit here complaining about it.

Shadowfaggots once again prove they are whiny faggots where nothing will ever be good enough for them.
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>>170800278
it was only 5/5 stat, i had 2 morde in my deck and one had been already banished while another played from hand when i played the second nep
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>>170800198
It's not ok to sexualize Vania, but is IS ok to sexualize Veight. I'm an authority on the subject.
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>>170781274
Will cygames give more support antiaggro to dshift? Is impossible win against this retard decks even using my brain atmaximum
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>>170800110
I'm sorry, but you're the shitter. You used one card to do more than he did with 3. You were completely carried by a broken card. You better hope it never gets nerfed.
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>hurr dimension shift is too good against control
dimension shift is control you mongoloids. it's just the one with the fastest win condition. dimension shift, seraph, and nepthys are the control decks in the game right now. control decks are about permission, which in dumbed down baby games like this means killing all your shit. the idea that control means building an unbeatable board position is retarded babbystone shit.
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>>170800060
Yeah, no shit. There aren't any resources in YGO, you're not going to brick unless you're playing a meme deck.
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>>170800357
Why not both?
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>2358 nephthys shadow

This deck is so fucking stupid but it sure is fun to see people have no idea how to react
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>>170800357
it sounds sexist!

anyway their main difference it's the length of hair
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>swordshitter has lethal with albert
>ready my concede button
>he plays it after about 20 seconds
>as i concede i see him trading it into my followers
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>>170800318
>One of Shadowverse's tenets is to avoid grinder games so all those hard wincons are designed on purpose. Pure value control will never exist in this game due to that philosophy.
This is why I like sv over hs. Fatigue is fucking retarded and 40 minute games are boring as fuck and the opposite of fun.
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>>170800453
Because Vania currently already has a significant other, and NTR is for gays.
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>1 turn to win
>3 dshifts in a row
>all my 20 hp

There should a be a condition on Dshift stating they cant be played consecutively or something.
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>>170800497
Thanks senpai
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>>170800383
implying that heal mattered in that situation
it could as well be dod with the very same (or better) result if i had dod in that deck
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>>170800548
Easy fix, same quality Time Warp had in Duel of Champions: the new turn doesn't give you mana or draw.
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>>170800504
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>>170800434
It's not about resources it's about tutoring and draw power. The only class that has any draw power worth a shit is fucking Rune so it's no wonder they've dominated the meta this entire expansion.

And as for tutoring only class that made non-meme use of that was Forest which got shit on hard for being as good as Cygames pet class Rune.
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>>170800357
>vania
>authority on anything

I would totally beat you to death irl
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>>170800603
This doesn't fix anything because you don't need more mana if your cards cost 0
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>>170800318
>That very strategy is Aggro's strategy against every single control deck.
A deck having the same win condition against everything is not the same as it only being possible to beat a deck in one way.

>Rune's is far from the hardest to play around
Like I said to the other guy other classes have fixed card effects. Rune is the hardest to play around because you can't know what effects it's possible for them to have unless you're fixated on their hand the entire game. And I don't plan on sitting there staring at my screen in order to keep track of individual cards' spell boosts. Sue me.
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>>170800663
A lot of times when you're pressuring them they win by using the mana of the next turn. It wouldn't make D Shift lose every game but it would hurt them a lot.
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>>170800642
Runeshits can eat my ass.
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what do you think about that old deck from january on gamepress with d-shift without merlin and destroyers but with daria?

https://shadowverse.gamepress.gg/deck/aa1-master-rank-d-shift-daria-runecraft-151-wins-out-200-matches
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>>170800464
>2358
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>>170800760
Merlin brings a lot of spellboost and draw. Without him, you don't see early D Shifts in my experience. I don't play D Shift though, that's just what I've seen on ladder.
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>>170800752
ment to reply to
>>170800548
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>>170800110
Nep is legitimately a better version of Saha+Luci that requires you to have cards in your deck instead of in your hand, of all the things to complain about why are you going to choose that?

On top of that, it tutors out your fucking win condition. Imagine if Haven had a card that when played put a Curate on board and used its fanfare, played a Tribunal that always hit the best target, and put a Seraph into play for 8pp. That's basically what Nep is in any list running 4s that can use Urd to punish a control deck for missing their Odin draw.
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>>170800271
my game before was mtg and it's really frustrating how shit in shadowverse is random for no good reason. why can't you pick which cards you discard? why can't you pick which cards you get with maid leader or goblin mage? in a video game it should be even easier than with physical cards since you don't have to actually go through your deck and reshuffle it afterwards.
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>>170800413
The category it's in doesn't matter you fucktard. People aren't complaining because they have some allegiance to the word "control" and don't see dshift as being part of it.
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>>170800548
It's a wincon
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>>170800464
2578 will always be superior. Do wish attendant was a 2pp guy though, only 3pp i genuinely miss.
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>>170800882
If that's how you feel, look into Eternal. It's basically MTG in an online format like Shadowverse. Blocking, interrupts, lands, etc.
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>dance of death in control sword
Who the fuck does this?
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>tfw they don't have the Daria and their hand actually gets empty

WOW THIS ALMOST FEELS LIKE A FAIR DECK TO PLAY AGAINST

WOW A HAND THAT ACTUALLY RUNS OUT WOW

IMAGINE FUCKING IMAGINE
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>>170800920
>2578 will always be superior
2478 is better in a control meta
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>>170800998
>hard removal in a control deck

yea what the fuck xD
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>>170800998
My thoughts exactly, Cyclone Blade is way more useful
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>>170801020
2478 is the worst variation of the 3
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>>170800998
Uh, everyone? Why wouldn't you want good removal that also does face damage? What else would you play, Call of Cockytits ie brick your hand with a big minion?
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1 Fangblade and 3 Frontguards or 2 Fangblades and 2 Frontguards?
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>>170801145
2 and 2
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>>170801118
>>170801046
It's not part of control decklists typically. Dance of Death is an aggro card.
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>>170801145
2 and 2
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>>170801145
Fangblade is a 1 of imo.
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>>170800805
The spellboost and the draw are nice from merlin, but she doesn't reliably draw dshift for you due to how many spellboost spells are run in dshift. If you're drawing dshift turn 4, it's sometimes too late and if you're going first, playing merlin without evolving is too much of a loss in tempo as she's really easy to remove. Also since piercing rune got nerfed, it's not often you can turn 5 play a merlin, evolve her, attack with her, keep her alive AND play a 1 pp spell. If you can do all those things it's a great card but a little too inconsistent.
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>>170801171
Well maybe you were looking at shitty control lists.
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>>170801169
Thanks anon
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>>170801171
control sword isn't actually control, it just pretends to be control and then kills you with albert
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>masters filled to the fucking brim with sword players
>nice i can play nephthys for a while
>dshift
>dshift
>dshift

Do these fuckers just enjoy the deck or what? There's no way they have over 45% win rate in masters right now.
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>>170799089
tfw no dogma to use on seraph
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>>170801171
It's not an just an aggro card it's the best version of the 5 pp hard removal spells.
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>>170801259
They don't actually play the game. They play solitaire. They can't play other decks.
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>>170801220
The majority of them don't have it, keep talking shit though.

>>170801232
The point of control is going control, though. Yeah you have albert as the wincon, but if you just want to ignore the control aspect and go fully face there is mid-range that plays aggression on curve and does use dance of death. I just find it bizarre to see dance of death in an otherwise fully control decklist.
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>>170801259
The fuck does Nep even do against Sword?
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>>170801232
>What is a wincon
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>>170798720
>Zirnitra is 13/11 for 8pp and an evo
>Nepthys is 5/5, 5/5 "immortal", destruction, heal, and up to 2 misc effects for 8
>Neptune is 9/9 for 7pp and an evo
>Undying is 12/9 for 7pp
When does it end?

>>170798875
Tell me about hydra bro

>>170800504
Don't be such a pathetic faggot and take your lumps then you repulsive subhuman
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>>170801118
to be fair the 5 pp 13/13 is a big threat and isn't too bad but it's clunky to play CoC as an 8 mana spell unless you happen to have a veteran lancer or unica or something to go with it on 10
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>>170801348
Build the wall
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>>170800914
people are just bitching that you can't play some deck that does nothing but trade followers for 15 turns, a completely different and stupid concern than the game not having control decks.
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>>170798939
dod, demonic
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>>170801339
>The majority of them don't have it, keep talking shit though.
Oh yeah? Prove it. I'll bet you it's mostly- if not only- Haven because they have a more efficient 4 pp hard removal, and possibly Shadow because they have Khawy.
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Dance of Death or Cyclone Blade /svg/?

Cyclone Blade can get rid of those pesky endless Wards
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>>170801348
Foul tempest, death's breath, Khawy

>>170801118
>tfw servant is a 13/13 for 8pp
>Inferno dragon is an 8/8 for 8
T-Thanks...
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>>170801410
I was talking about the majority of control sword decks.
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>>170801394
The point is you're being a pedantic faggot and fixating on language instead of responding to meaning.
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>>170801072
it performs the best in a control meta, which is what low master/high aa was today. that's why there's so much complaining about d shift since they came out to prey on the controlfags as well.
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>>170801432
Fangblade
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Petition to make Leonidas be a 7-8 drop!!
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Stop playing Control Sword
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>>170801486
I mean if you really want everyone to run execution sure
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>>170801457
Sword has the worst non-follower based removal spells, of COURSE they'd run DoD.
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>>170801432
dod for aggro/"midrange"
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>>170801436
servant is 13/13 for 13 mana tho
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>>170801486
Leo's fine. Its just that Baha shits on strategies revolving amulets that don't have last words. Elana would probably be good right now if Baha didn't exist.
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>>170787871
That sounds almost as fun as otk disco dragon where even if you see it coming you can't do shit.
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>>170801536
I just checked on gamespress, not a single one of the listed control decks runs Dance of Death, including many tournament winning decks. Go check on GameAI or whatever japanese site you like (since many of the decks are from there anyway), it'll be the same story. Nice job baiting if that was what you were doing, but otherwise you're wrong.
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>>170801339
the point of control is permission. killing your shit = not letting you win.
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So why is there no fucking support whatsoever for Nep in the next expansion? None of the cards ecen have LW except Thane which won't be played because it takes Kamura's spot.
I like mid shadow but I don't want to be only forced to play the "pay a million shadow to get removed" archetype they are pushing.
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So as a new player how do I earn rupees? I know I can do private matches but can I get anything from playing against the A.I.? Should I finish the entire Main Story before trying out Unranked?
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Tier 1 after ToG
Aggro Forest
Control Forest
Elana Aegis
Commander Sword
Neutralramp Dragon

Remember, you heard it here first.
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>>170801615
>I just checked on gamespress
>gameAI
lol

And tournament decks are built for specific matchups in mind, you shouldn't mindlessly copy them for ladder if the matchups there are different.

They made a good call and blew you out, just take your medicine and move on.
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>>170801660
Okay, so why do literally none of the decklists have it? They're all idiots, including professional players? I can't believe I'm replying to these posts, congratulations on trolling me I guess.
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>blood has highest ranked wins of any class
>just one guy who has double the wins of the next guy down
>300 more wins than the highest runecrafter

What is happening here?
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>>170801567
I wouldn't play cyclone blade in normal midrange either, the only time where your followers stick for more than 1 turn is when you are ahead.
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Left or right?
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>>170801470
Fangblade is 8PP, Cyclone and DoD are 5PP
They are not even comparable
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>>170801667
>So why is there no fucking support whatsoever for Nep in the next expansion?
Because they don't want to make another Daria? It's obnoxious enough as it is, let other Shadow decks shine.
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>>170800683
If you're being reductionist, then there's only two actual win conditions to beat decks in this game.

Lethal or have the other player deck out.

And what difference does it make having there being one way to beat a deck?

The best way to beat any aggro deck is to control against it even as another aggro deck if they're the one that pushed tempo and damage first. Even an Aggro player needs to control the board if it's to avoid lethal.

On the topic of Rune's variable effects, other classes just have outright better effects.

Haven has Scripture, Cudgel, Sledgehammer, Tribunal, Lion Spirit, and Themis plus wards and healing out the wazoo.

Forget about playing around Haven, they will outright gut any board if they have the right card on hand. Last Word removal, unconditional destruction, random target destruction, board clear, super unconditional board clear.

Rune's effects are variable, but only up to a point in effectiveness. Wind Blast, Kaleidoscope(not actually removal, just delay), Petrification(gives you a 2/2 golem without Earth Rite), Fiery Embrace, Fire Chain, and Calamitous Curse(requires Earth Rite to be good). Wind Blast and Fiery Embrace become the eventual same in the sense they'll become single target removal cards after a certain point. Petrification and Calamitous Curse potential are signified by presence of any Earth Sigils at all. Fire Chain is simply an okay board clear that will require several turns of play just to equal the potential of Themis, Salamander Breath, or Revelations. It's not even likely to be as good as Will of the Forest on turn 5.

It's not impossible to play around.
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>>170801756
Can't I pick both?
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Final boss time.
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>>170801732
somebody grinds master score with aggro blood, most likely
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>>170801756
Why did the artist give them cowtits, this is non-canon
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>>170801465
>control meta
>Albert swords everywhere

I love those statements with absolutely no relation to reality.
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>>170801732
Poopsocking
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>>170801669
beating elite AI 1&2 for all characters
20 private matches
daily missions
there are a small amount of rupies, vials and most importantly cards for going through the story.
you also get free stuff for raising your score, or reaching new ranks.

maybe i forgot something but that seems to be it.
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26808
Concede or let me hit your face if you need the achievement.
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>>170801882
If it runs blitz lancer/jeno and doesn't go for your face constantly it's control. That's really the definition of control--even if they have the ability to blow your face off, if they're more concerned about removing your creatures than racing your face, they are control.
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>>170801667
Putting strong alternative followers in Khawys spot is a good move. Nep is dangerous in the same way Goblin Mage was.

Even without any support it should still be a very strong deck.
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>>170800464
Bullshit, post list. I want to see this for myself.
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>>170801890
Disgusting.
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>>170801864
Artist had shit taste
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meanwhile in t2
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>>170801941
Jeno is a staple in "midrange" sword and some builds run 1-2 Blitz to deal with Temple Defender/Yurius/etc.
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Going to do 14 RoB pack pulls and 4 DE pack pulls, give me your energy lads
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>>170801941
Mid range runs early 1 drops that control doesn't though. It should be fairly obvious which it is.
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>>170801957
poor gobu
today i swapped her for angel of the word in my aggro blood and went on a winstreak...
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>>170802047
T S U K O M E
S
U
K
O
M
E
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>>170801732
He grinds more than anyone else with the fastest deck in the game.
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>>170802080
>Not saving rupies for expansion

Why?
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When is the release of the new set?
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>>170801732
>over 100 wins per day
>about 200 games per day
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>>170802139
Because the only two cards that interest me in the expansion are Support Cannon and Luminous Mage, which I'll just craft anyway
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>>170801667
Thane ain't bad for Nep.

Being able to drop a 0 cost Wight King along with Nep and Mordecai is one additional body and an Odin can't deal with 3 bodies at once.
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>>170801864
Fucking degenerate pederasts, tired of having to hide atleast 5 posts from you sick fuckers in every thread, I hope you ingest rat poison or i dunno some way where you die slowly in horrible agony.
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>>170801794
So a turn 8 Dshift and a turn 9 Seraph win is fine because "it's their wincon bro" but a stronger turn 9 followup for Nep isn't allowed?

>Daria tier
When was the last time you saw a Nep played on turn 4? She is a strong play, no doubt but she doesn't feel nowhere near like those oh fuck oh shit wincons other control decks have. A Leonidas resolve is scarier desu and soon turn 8 Leonidas will be a thing.
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>>170801708
the point is that "control" sword isn't a real control deck
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>>170801824
Fucking swordfags.
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>>170801732
Autism
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>>170802306
>>170802306
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>>170801795
>And what difference does it make having there being one way to beat a deck?
It means any deck which does not win in that way is subject to boring no gameplay 80/20 matchups.

There's no effect better than 'destroy a minion for 0 mana'.

I mean haven's pretty similar in the sense that they might have something that screws you no matter what. But the effects are controlled enough that you can play around 2 hp breakpoints for lion or whatever as opposed to 'fuck it whatever' for rune removal with unknown cost/power. Halfway through the game unless you're fucking rainman you can't know how much hp you need on the board to not get cleared by rune like you can with forest.
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>>170801912
Thank you! I'm going to do the AI after I finish the story. And for the private matches I can just make a room, post it here and pass so the other person can beat me quickly?
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>>170801686
>Commander Sword
I want this to be a thing because I actually think Cannon looks like a fun card, but just look at the Commanders we have already. They all just buff Officers until 5+ mana. Unless they go much harder with Commanders, you won't be able to make a pure deck.
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>>170801941
They run TSUKOME/Jeno because it's basically a free evolve point for their Albert. It's fucking redicolous desu, especually Jeno.
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>>170802338
there's also take2, although that depends on how well you do in it.
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>>170802338
Yes
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>>170802338
Yes. There is also a thread on Reddit made specifically for it. If you want to get it done faster, post it there too.
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>>170802236
I hope you have children one day so I can have less thoughts about them.
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>>170802338
forgot one more thing: the daily login bonus.
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>38 pack pulls
>1 meme lego to show for it
Is my luck just bad or is my luck just bad?
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>>170801957
>have to gimp your deck for a single turn play if you even manage to live that long
>gobu tier

Yoy saw what happened the moment forest niggers had to build a deck with the new gobu, they jumped ship immideately. Nobody stopped them from not playing a specific cost followers like Nep does. If nep was gobu or even maid tier she'd be "draw 4 different HIGHEST cost followers" or "draw followers with LW"
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>>170802553
stop anon you're scaring me.
i don't want this to happen to me.
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Are shadowfags actually this retarded or are the dragonfags just falseflagging?
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>>170802725
>>170802553
look up the OP for rerolling
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>>170802514
We can all hope, like I hope one day to put your skull through a meat grinder to help you tear out all of those impure thoughts.
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>>170802774
My account isn't new friendo
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>>170802326
As a Shadow player, the transform or banish for 3 PP is many times worse.

As a Sword player, getting your full board destroyed for 5 or 6 is worse than a single follower for 0.

As a Storm Haven player, I fear the petrification rather than any Wind Blast or Fiery Embrace since I use storm amulets in conjunction with Urd, Generals, or Garuda.

As Bat blood with 4 followers on board after a Fortress proc, I'm more worried about Fire Chain, Calamitous or Angelic Barrage rather than a 0 cost Embrace though I've probably prepared for all the bats to be wiped out.

Levi's pre-nerf 3 for 1 with Piercing Rune was considered the most broken as fuck thing in the entire game.

What type of deck do you play where you're worried about the 0 cost Embrace?
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>>170802890
>what type of deck so you play where you're worried about the 0 cost embrace

Dragon obviously.
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>>170781867
>Odins you

Psssh hear the dragon's roar kid.
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>>170802618
>forest with no 1 or 2 pp cards
wow I wonder why no one wanted to play a deck that does nothing until turn 3 where they play a 2/3 ancient elf
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>>170803850
>no 1 or 2pp cards.
Only 1pp cards and only 1pp followers. So what? I want to play Cerb in all my shadow decks too but it's not possible if I want good pulls or another version entirely. They can have consistency for a slightly weaker start but they want the best of both without any drawbacks.
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