Tree of Savior General - the /tosg/

dead

why did you even make a new thread

>>170757327
who?

>>170757376
soon!

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/ServerClosed/ when!

questions you might have come into this general to ask:

>is this game dead
yes

>did it get any better since i quit
no

>erp?
just go to discord

>>170758785
>just go to discord
Which one?

What's the fastest way to get to 330 from 323?

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>>170759031

is this game dead?
did it get any better since i quit?
erp?

>>170759165

B-but I get blown up on quest maps even with 1.5k def and 1.6k mdef

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Explain this /tosg/
I thought Futureproof was supposed to be dead.

>>170760035
Don't be 10 levels below them then

>>170760035
Party up. Create a rank8 maps quest party. I've joined 2 of them and got a buttload of EXP cards that can get me from 315 to 330 according to the exp calculator.

how good is sadhu

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>>170760306
That is a different FP.

Cunts disband it last night and deleted his chars.
I saw a guy named "AC195" as Templar of FP today.

Hello guys, a lot of you may not know me, I'm BraveVesperia, from Futureproof.

As of today I'm leaving, and I wanted you to know that the only reason why the game was enjoyable is because of the community, and it's the only reason why I've been playing until now (though I've been quite inactive lately, even missing some people's departures). Recently I'm having very little free time, and I don't want to play a game that each time requires more grinding and refuses to fix it's many flaws.

Special mention to Futureproof, you're great guys, I had a lot of fun just chatting and hanging around with you, and I'm sure I'll stay in touch via Discord.

So I wanted to say thank you and goodbye to everyone here, I appreciate you guys and I hope the people who stay actually get to play a great game in the future.

I'm sorry for such a big post from a literally who, but I felt like I wanted to do it this way.

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>>170760306
I'll be your templar tonight.

I'm not Cats, and to celebrate our new phoenix-like rebirth, I went to West Siauliai Woods and declared war on the first tower I could. Does anyone know who those guys are? I hope they don't have a hamster in there.

I'll also be gathering more guinea pigs and waiting warmly for rank 9. GBL will happen if enough people log on at the right time, but we might have more on in the drop bear timezone than 9pm.

If you want to join, or rejoin, or got caught in one of those offline over a month cleanups, whisper ApplyAFineHorse3. If you don't get a response, either I'm offline, crashed, or whispers broke again. Send a friend request and come find me.

>>170761302
Hey I remember you from back when I was still in FP. You're cool.

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>>170761405
>Not kicking that shitter cats out

>>170761302
see you on gbf

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Futureproof was a terrible, terrible guild.
>lolipan was a subhuman retard who forced all of his first group of players to quit because he declared war on every guild he could to the point that no one could play the game
>ends up recruiting randoms to populate his failed memeguild
>loli wants to be pvp king but is horrible at the game and because a giant joke on the server
>eventually bails from the game because he can't take being such a laughingstock
>then some literal who normie alcoholic fuck takes over the guild and does nothing, he doesn't even play the game
>this continues for half a year
>Futureproof dies unceremoniously
Good riddance to bad rubbish.

>>170761696
The war declaring at the start was fine it was Loli refusing to accept that a large part of the game is PvE and that in MMOs being PvP focused means you do a lot of PvE content in order to fund your PvP endeavors.

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>>170761135
>>170761405
Oh no. Did you just seriously waste all the Previously donated talt to level the Futureproof guild!?

I am so mad right now.

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>>170761696
>>lolipan was a subhuman retard who forced all of his first group of players to quit because he declared war on every guild he could to the point that no one could play the game
I was never in fp but how is this true? i remember most people in fp having fun wardec'ing everyone, if anything it was the lack of wars that made everyone quit.
Also, wasn't LolichisSlave the only non-tosg fp had?

>>170762634
>Also, wasn't LolichisSlave the only non-tosg fp had?
Definitely not, I know that Healmage and Cats weren't tosg. Probably others, too.

>>170761696
>lolipan was a subhuman retard who forced all of his first group of players to quit because he declared war on every guild he could to the point that no one could play the game
That was the golden age of this stupid game. Fuck right off.

>>170761696
FP was fine but it should have died when Lolipan left. The game has been a shitshow since neutrality and it's just been dragged through the mud since with everyone playing it.

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>>170761405
>Futurproof2.0

Oh, good luck on that. Guess i will stop shitposting about FP for a while..

>>170762750
>Healmage wasn't /tosg/
>the literal queen of /pol/ herself
This is inaccurate.

>>170762902
It's a well known fact. Just because some newfag comes to 4chan in 2016 and starts spewing memes about Trump doesn't mean they aren't new.

>170762750

Apply yourself.

>>170761696
>thread-only shitposter does not even know anything

>>170762634
>>170762814
these. oldFP and its members loved GvG. neutrality killed oldFP (and ofc the autistic leader also did)

>>170760575
What calculator do you use?

>>170761696
>a guild that was created around an aspect of the game that literally got removed from the game by the addition of neutrality went downhill afterwards
SHOCK

>>170763197
GvG was still in the game for a long time after Loli quit, the problem was that most people in FP outside of the oldfags and a handful of exceptions were never that good because when you advertise as a PvP guild you attract tons of normies that want to stroke their epeen.

>>170763332
>I didn't play before Neutrality: The Post
You're confusing GBL and GVG.

>>170763406
Being successful at competitive GBL was something that FP intended to do initially, just because they failed doesn't mean that wasn't the original focus.

Open world GvG was just a spawn camping shitshow anyway, it was fun in the first month but IMC didn't support the mode so it was never anything more than just fun zerg griefing.

>>170763197
>>170763332
GvG was still available, but FP couldn't cope because they were all really, really bad at the game. With open world PvP, you can pick and choose your battles which allows you to grossly outnumber people or just pick on weaklines. In GvG, they couldn't do that they so they quit.

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>>170763649
>Being successful at competitive GBL was something that FP intended to do initially, just because they failed doesn't mean that wasn't the original focus.
>doesn't mean that wasn't the original focus.
>something that did not exist when guild was made
>the original focus.

>>170763649
>gbl
>existing when fp was created
newfriend please

>>170763712
>they were all really, really bad at the game.

>If you can't outnumber your opponent and camp their spawn you're really, really bad.
GvG is a fucking shitshow, no one should ever blame a guild for failing at it when the design is so bad.

>>170763332
GBL was a massive disappointment for everyone except people who only did PVP for TP. The first map was so bad they had to remove it completely instead of putting them in rotation. Gamebreaking bugs were everywhere.

>>170763712
>by the way, I didn't play GBL (which I keep calling GvG) on the old map, either
Literally fucking unplayable, newfag.

When's this game going to add more bosses?

>>170763649
Who cares, the whole focus of FP was to bully other guilds in open world PvP just because. When they killed it with passive mode, the guild had no purpose left and it eventually died because it couldn't adapt well enough.

Either way, props to loli for actually being able to farm thousands of free TP from GBL and having the stash he left behind given away "accidentally"

>>170763712
But nobody did any GvG after neutrality anymore.

No, GvG is not GBL. Fuck you.
And no, LP did not primary want/like instanced PvP, that autist was about open world PvP spawncamping and shit.

fuck of newfags

>all that remains of /tosg/ are people who weren't even playing during EA
It hurts.

>>170763854
The he initial intention was to be good at the WoE equivalent. Why do you think Loli fucked off to a private RO server that auto maxes you? He just wanted to play WoE.

>>170763712
Actually, GBL is all about intentionally picking on weaklings and avoiding strong teams.

>>170764006
>Give stash to healmage
>she never puts out and eventually leaves
I'm sure that chink planned it from the start

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>>170764046
>this hardcore backpedaling

>>170764089
yeah, it was pretty obvious that's gonna happen. it always does.

>>170764046
>she didnt witness LPs old BR extermination speeches (about open world rape)
kysmm

>LP turned out to be a BR
heh

>>170763915
>>170763974
>>170764025
FP's 3 members are out in full force tonight.

>>170764080
Well that's true, but FP was THE weakest guild so they couldn't do that either.

Hey guys, im here for almost a month now. Let me tell you about the old times!

>>170764001
I don't know what IMCs deal with bosses is, so many cards unavailable and one time boss fights it drives me insane.

Never was able to get a Gorgon card to drop in chapel mission either, always wondered if he could use his 1hko move as a summon.

>>170764559
hello neutrality is talking about non elemental attacks right

>newfriends will never know the drama and shed tears of guild towers destroyed with hamhams in them
Why do you guys even play this? You're never going to get it see it when it was decent.

>>170764689
uhmm ehh, yes. it is. right
we oldfags all know that

What did people even play when GVG was a thing? Sword3/Cata3/Dragoons?

>>170764760
>pretend to be an oldfag
>talk about towers with hamsters
Fuck off, healmage.

>>170764760
You didn't even like wars healmage

>>170764990
People stacked Dievderbys, Cryokinos, and Kinolocks with the occasional Catgoon. A lot of the fun though was that everyone was still learning the game so you saw a lot of different builds that weren't necessarily good but it was the archetype that that particular player liked to play. Once the GvG meta began to develop it became obvious that it was a really unbalanced sideshow mode, but it could have been a lot of fun if they had something like designated war times and a limited time period in which towers could be attacked with rewards for keeping them up.

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>>170761405
>hahaman
get bullied

ALLOW ME TO SELL THOSE KEISTAS POTIONS LV 4 AT LEAST

MAYBE I CAN BUY A PRACTONIUM THIS WAY

>>170766945
>if they had something like designated war times and a limited time period in which towers could be attacked with rewards for keeping them up.
So... like the GVG minigame they have now?

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post old screenies for post-neo-tosg

>>170766945
One of the best parts was it wasn't something you'd queue for with a maximum team size, so people would bring whatever characters they could even if they didn't have one of those pvp builds. That lead to more variety.

>>170766945
The war gods were kino3s and kino2 necros.

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>>170767746

>>170768243
>>170766945
no it was sorc
because Tempelshooter does not care about FPS (and was good in Rank6+7)

>>170768364
>sorc
>being able to compete with old gravity pole
Healmage what the fuck did we just tell you?

>>170768465
>>170768243
>old gravity pole
OH GOD I FORGOT

OH GOD

NOT LIKE THIS

>>170768465
Karga's TS literally murdered everyone. even in big fights where most ppl had like 5fps

a strong sorc was gvg god

>>170768625
The TS was good in fuckhuge fights where nobody could even move but Gravity pole was literally an instant kill on large groups of people from offscreen, the only way to beat it was to hope they'd decide to kill somebody else so you could go after the kino.

>>170768625
Are you retarded?

GVG before the gravity pole nerf was decided by who casted gravity pole first.

And it reached off screen so you couldn't even do anything about it.

>>170768243
Eh Kino 2 necro worked mostly because of the Kino and because the people using it were generally part of extremely huge teams that would serve as meatbags so they could get their cannon off.

Dvine jobbing to everything in TBL after all his shit talk was one of the best parts of its implementation.

Fine Horse here, I'm queuing for GBL to help break the logjam. The no rematch thing seems to be bugging, and none of the guilds are able to play.

>>170769112
dvine was never one of the good kino2 necros. he was both the loudest and worst player of that build.

>>170768947
>>170769045
even in smaller fights that TS solo'd like 2-3 parties and it didnt care about kinos

>>170769568
>>170769185
what is happening

>>170769587
i messed up typing?

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>>170761302
We had a good time together. Thanks for the memories.

>>170761526
Futureproofs actually like me, it's still a thread meme.

>>170762750
TOSG isn't just for autists. Anyone who lurks, and posts, and is a part of the community here is TOSG, whether you like it or not. I'm from Monster Hunter general (and back there now), originally.

>>170762886
3.0* unless I was the 1.5 patch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_brNFyVJLg&

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfe78FtIJ4I&

See you guys in awhile, taking a break and heading to Tokyo until mid April.

>>170770310
>3.0* unless I was the 1.5 patch.
Cats neoFP does not count

lets see how
>FP - a guild reborn
does

>>170770310
>want to join FP
>post on The TOSG on 4chan
>then you can join us

>>170771052
RIP De-su

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Stop playing ToS idorts

>>170771348
>playing ToS
Nobody here does this you silly boy

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>>170771348
No

>>170771348
dragons are dumb

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daily reminder 1vs1 peltasta is overpowered, cant recall any class besides hunter that can beat me 100% of the time. even karga's shitty build, since decay doesnt always land and his suicide bombing can be completely negated with slithering

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/Swaaz/

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>>170774053
>>170774320
>shitposting about someone who isnt T1
>who has proven to beat meta builds with sheer willpower
>can 2 hit beet's inquisitor AND HAS DONE SO multiple times

beet can only win if he hides in ausrine and only approaches during ausrine otherwise he runs away until its back on rotation

needing to be a tryhard against a squire3
for fucks sake, my rank is low because it hasnt reset from when i used to que as squire3. for the 50th god damn time i cant even get into TBL matches because my rank wont reset. i que for 60 mins and not once do i get into a fight.
stop implying im shit how about you 1vs1 me then? my rank isnt resetting and you have no right to shitpost and damage control against a squire3 low-tier class like really dont you have something better to do like complain about ausrine or getting 1 hit constantly?

fight be bitch if u think ur soo good, judging me based off of my squire3 rank 7 rank which cant be reset? youre trash

headbutt does 15k damage twice, unless you run around like some pussyfooted faggot who only approaches during ausrine and uses dispellers so i cant use arrest in town pvp then you legit have no reason to gloat when you need to be meta T1 just to beat lowest tier ingame.

heres video of a scenario in which 100% of any cookie cutter sheeple glass build would of just gotten 1-hit from any of the clerics moves, and again i literally get into NO matches at all. id have a ton more footage if i didnt que for 60 mins straight and never get in a match

HAHA XDXD why you soo autistic stop sperging out spastic

wtf u want me to do when these jackasses insist that im shit but refuse to fight me 1vs1?

swaaz tell us about early access world gvg please

>>170775149
kateen forest was considered home base, thered always be fun every meetup.

i never bothered joining any of the autist guilds back then, i was a squire3 and was mainly focused on completing collections. by the time i felt like shitposting it was already too late

fp killed tosg

>>170775451
about time, tosg has been on life support for going on 5 months now

>>170775451
Things that killed tosg
>bad game
>discord cliques

>>170775149
>early access
>not korea best era

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MAKE IT STOOOOP

>>170775584
>we're back to the DISCORD VS TOSG meme
We've come full circle. What a lovely sendoff to this shit sandwich.

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>>170761405
I would like to wish you luck with the 3rd incarnation of FP, there's nothing more that can be said I guess

>>170775689
xd

I'm glad I outlasted the niggs on here

>>170775753
who the fuck are you noob?

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Cute cleric(male)

>>170775689
Have you seen the discords? These people really have no lives or friends. Seriously, their only friends are a bunch of random posters in a discord. This is how they socialize. They live and lurk in discord constantly talking about how lewd they want to be to each other with their funny anime avatars and s-s-stuttering. Even worse, they get on their mic and you can feel their fat, stuttery breath creeping into your ear as they whisper reddit memes and talk about how good they are at tos and mobagames. The illusion that they have friends and people in their lonely lives spirals out of control, suddenly they're ditching what little real life responsibilities they have to run instances every day to be the very best like no one ever was (they aren't). It becomes a circlejerk hugbox that is, ironically, diametrically opposed to the anonymous general they spawned from. It's all about namedrops and the tight cunny clique they want to lick. Absolutely disgusting.

>>170776184
>>170774438

>>170776410
dont even get me started about ravens discord, shit was hilarious

i shit you not, you wont believe me... but theres a chick that says "teehee" after every sentence

EVERY SENTENCE

i dont know how much more convincing i can sound, she wasnt a bad person. but my god i could not take it

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the terminal autism in these threads never fails to kill my sides. you guys are much better than /rog/

>>170776829
>/rog/

anon you are retarded

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>>170776410
i like you, finally another anon who wants to gas the cliques, ive been calling these shitters out since release. buncha fking autists. cliques kill the game, not make it stronger. all these retards i swear

godspeed

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>>170776829
This is babby tier compared to /rog/.

KEKNEWAL
LELNEWAL
AYYNEWAL
LMAONEWAL

>>170776921
>>170776964
my mistake. i meant revelation online when i said /rog/

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MARK YOUR CALENDARS LADS, PROMISED DANK MEME VIDEO COMING MAINTENANCE NIGHT

WILL NOT DISAPPOINT

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>>170767746

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>>170777158

>>170777317
>literally unwatchable

Time to settle this: https://strawpoll.com/253z3gd

Don't fight the feeling, it's time to come back
http://sorinro.com/
http://ratemyserver.net/index.php?page=detailedlistserver&serid=19358&itv=6&url_sname=SorinRO
>classic
>no dual boxing
>pvp on mvp maps unless mvp is dead

>>170777725
fuck off lolipan ro is dead too
except ro mobile hd

>>170777353
ya i made this long time ago, no idea what i was doing

>>170777636
>no cats option
trash poll

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The auto-healing they added to towers was troublesome, but we found a way. Mythic's one guy was fearless and added some fun. They said they had it set to neutral. Mistake, or IMC? Either way, everything went better than expected.

>>170777829
>no cats

we already know he is trash

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However, these guys weren't attackable, unfortunately.

What's the emergency maintenance for? And why do we need it asap?

>>170779720
https://treeofsavior.com/news/?n=872 because IMC can't handle clocks.

Can't believe they work on weekends though

>At the point where I should make a "real" character
>Disillusioned with class system and options, none of the good ones are appealing

Why is there no good magic knight class?

ame ame ame

>>170778050
What's with the sudden guild raids?

>>170782978
Maybe there will be in R9, benefitting from DEX and INT
>leather armor with INT stats make more sense now

>>170783797
>knight
>leather

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>>170784417

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>>170757096
you fucking retard, FP is still there, and got better because Triela is now the new OVERLORD of FP

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>Gets the privilege of surfing on the fame of Ragnarok Online, one of the most successful MMOs of all time
>Actually gets the class system, one of the most important parts of a MMO, right
>Fairly big hype prior to its release
>IMC wastes this big opportunity by doing some of the most moronic design decisions ever seen and having the worst administration of any MMO
>Game literally died in less than a year
Tree of Savior is the very definition of a failure.

>>170780232
This happens in other kmmos at least too. Maybe they have to change the time in the code manually for countries that use DST because they don't think to add a DST update switch? Don't know but this isn't something unique to ToS.

>>170783797
Finestra already benefits from int. https://tos.neet.tv/attributes/104016

>>170782978
Play a cleric if you want physical and magical damage.

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>>170785984
Not to mention the fact that they tried to keep players by telling lies. Remember this whole "we're working on optimization" bullshit? They even posted some screenshots with graphs etc., but in the end it was all the same stuttering abomination with 30-40 FPS in Fedimian on a fucking 4790K / gtx 980 rig.

>>170787338
I wish muh vidya card fags woudl fuck off with the pvp fags.

>>170787338
those gooks really are good liars. i never played a game where the publisher lied like that and fooled me into playing it further.

main developer writes some huge ass reply to some random dude that's quitting with graphs and promises of improving the game soon to keep the game from losing 70% of the players in 2 months. that's actually impressive

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>>170787452
>tos
>pvp

>>170787338
>>170787621
They didn't lie, people just didn't understand the graphs and thought they were gonna be running 120fps in GVG or something. People who understood the graphs knew it was some low increase in frame rate.

>>170787338
The graphs were accurate and they did make big gains, but doubling 2 fps is just 4 fps and tripling it is just 6. Performance was way too deep in the hole for their promises to mean much.

>>170787842
>increase in frame rate.
Yep, like +2 fps which is pretty much nothing to brag about, yet they posted it in the news section and made lots of people "OH GOD THEY WILL FINALLY FIX THIS MESS"

>>170788051
Those people were stupid. Also 30 fps is enough.

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>>170764046
I am not too big of a fan of WoE, I like PvP more. I don't mind leveling, it's just that the kind of server I wanted to make was one where people didn't have to waste time on menial tasks like that.

>>170764240
huehue death to all BRs. Except myself.

>>170768625
This was true, Karga's death shadow would eventually wear off people during sub 1-fps fights.

>>170769112
>>170769225
dvine was never big on TBL but he was the biggest killer in FP during open wars. His full INT build wasn't suitable for TBL but he was more than capable of clearing out half a dozen people every time he casted Flesh Cannon.

>>170761302
I am glad you were able to stay this long. Thanks for playing with all of us.

>>170777772
That ain't mine.

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Why aren't you playing ロードス島戦記オンライン?

>>170788708
Go away loli

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/Ohayou/ when?

>>170796186
it's going to be alright *hugs you*

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So I started this game yesterday and I'm now level 32. I was wondering if Fencer is a good class choice and some guides says that I should put all my points in dex and some says that it's a stupid fucking idea. Also I keep seeing arguments for the both sides and I don't know what to do. Help anons.

>>170796673
Have you checked the build site to see if there is anything there?
http://www.tosbase.com/tools/skill-simulator/builds/

I'm not sure if this website is super up to date but I recently started myself and I'm following a build on there and it's going okay.

>>170796673
>>170796901
Don't follow builds on that site. It's filled with bad builds from newbies.

For now try to just tell people what you want to do and build from that idea.
Fencer3 is really strong by the way. The strongest solo target damage dealer at the moment.

>>170797310
Yeah, I was thinking of Swordsman 3 and something between, then Fencer 3. I just don't know about the stats, Dex seems to be pretty good when it's about dueling, something about buffed yellow stones and I don't know if I should level str/con also.

>>170797675
Pure DEX. Some CON for some survivability depending on you.

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>>170796673
Fencers are for sex.

>>170797675
All points to dex as fencer.

Sw3Pelt1Corsair1Fencer3

>>170797778
>>170797816
I put few points already on str, like 6-8. Reroll or just keep going?

>>170797675
>>170797816
I'd rather have highlander 1 really for fencer since highlander 1 gives you +50% crit attach which gets amplified with all the fencer crits.

Remove either pelt 1 or corsair.

>>170797897
>Increases your critical attack by 10% when equipped with a [Two-handed Sword].

>>170797886
6-8 points doesn't really matter

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>>170797886
Reroll. It only takes 20 minutes to get to where you currently are.

https://track4.mixtape.moe/gytnkt.jpg

Filthy sluts.

>>170798098
>Fencer
>[Two-handed Sword]
That's what I meant

>>170798129
Ignore me I suck cock. Yeah so the fencer twigs are not two-handed.

>>170798098
Since when Venier can be used as a 2h weapon?

>tfw no giant two handed rapiers to crossguard

why live

>>170802149

cover butt

I started farming mats for an orange weapon yesterday, wish me luck tosg!

>>170802795
You have a corsair, thaum, and doppel in your party to get at least 4x drops, right?

PUT FP BACK IN THE OP SHITLORDS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yIF6vWaxr_U&feature=youtu.be
This game was not meant to be played like this.

>>170803014
>4x
Retard

>>170803405
They seriously need to fix their item gaining/tracking system.

FP is the most /tosg/ guild, you can't separate one from the other.

>>170803405
Kek. That looks really fun. Like one of those gumball machines.

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>>170803318
>>170803591

>>170803318
>>170803591
>>170804029
yeah ok

>FP - a guild reborn
will be added next time

>>170785984

I wonder if ToS' classes could be emulated in RO. It'd probably be broken as hell but I'd play it.

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Here, have some autism numbers @lv 50 DG cube rerolls.

DG 50 BOX ROLLS.

48 BOXES (12x4 characters, so basically 4 days of 'farming')

Reroll cost: 20k. Loot:


CARD: 47 (60k)
TALT: 48 (240k)
SAPPIHRE: 5 (39,5k)
GOLD BAR: 7 (350k)
SILVER BAR: 13 (390k)
OPAL: 5 (12.5k)
FIVE HAMMER 3 (300k)


ICE ROD: 5 (7,5k)
MANDRAPICK: 2 (3k)
WIDE CROSSBOW: 3 (4,5k)
SILVER FALCHION: 3 (4,5k)
IRON BOW: 1 (2,4k)
DRATT SHIELD: 2 (1,8k)

values: (feel free to change it based on your server's economy, I just considered npc price for everything besides the hammer and the cards)
card = 60k
talt = 5
crossbow = 1,5
mandra = 1,5
rod = 1,5
FALCHION = 1,5
bow = 2.4
shield = 900s
SAPPHIRE = 7.9k
silver = 30
gold = 50
opal = 2,5k
talt = 5k
five hammer = ~100k

Reroll costs: 1.920.000 (1.9m)
Total loot without cards: 1.355.700 (1,3m).
Cards: (assuming 60k each) = 2.820.000 (2,8m).
Profit: 2.2m or actually paying 12k each card assuming you gonna use the cards as food material.

>>170804787

Do cards actually sell or is it a meme? I have like 200 shadowgaler cubes across my characters

>>170804992

Yes, they sell. But putting one card by one at the market is kinda consuming, it's better to just stalk the market and see if people are looking for, let's say, lv 10 chappas/moles, so you make one and sell it/change for shards (usually good for both because of the market fee)/whatever

>>170804787
>card food for one L1 to L9
not bad

Give me a good team name

>>170806137
Dicks

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>tfw I have more hours in this game than there are average players

>>170806137
NGGR

>>170806587
>1000+ hours in ToS
>you could have mastered a skill

>>170806137

Paroles

>>170807216
>almost 5000 hours playing TOS
>could have bought a sports cars by flipping burgers

>>170806137
Aliceburuma

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>>170806137
'Your First Name'Team

Dont forget the "Team". All the cool kids use that at the end of there name.

>>170806137
Lolipan

>>170809194
I thought the cool kids did it like Team'___'

so should I level my character to 330 before or after the event starts?

>>170811095
I don't think it matters, but looks like you get a chest every 10 levels so maybe you get an extra one if you go from 320-330?

>>170812192

How do you know?

>>170812342
I was mistaken, it's 10 chests with different target levels not one every 10 levels so I don't know.

>>170812426

I'm just levelling my character to 328ish, since if it was a set amount of levels it could never get a chest anyway and if it scales to how many you have left, you'd get 10 chests for basically free.

>>170811095
wait with any leveling until the event starts, so we can see the details about chest and stuff

>>170812554
you should stop at 319 in case you need to level each time to open a new chest.

>>170812689

The character was at 322 before the event even was announced, rip

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>the only character i want to reset stats on is 320
>even if its 1 chest per 1 level im fucked
i really hope that dumb stat pot is tradeable

Does anyone know of any site where I can sell my items? If there's any that is.

>>170812890
Just give them to me.

>>170812961
I doubt we even play on the same server though

>>170812819
330 might be the final level and they just meant that if you were 330 you couldn't open the chest rather than you couldn't open the chest if the last one was at 330

Did anybody ever confirm the "new cards via reincarnate" trick some anon was posting about a few threads ago? Someone was making the claim that reincarnating a quest boss successfully spawns a new one with the same low chance to drop its card.

>>170812890
please respond, I want to make at least some use of 3000 wasted hours.

I remember installing a mod that tell me if there are monster with clover buff nearby. What was that again?

>>170804029
It's true though, look at this thread, half of it it's talking about FP, Lolipan and Cats.

FP is the most relevant /tosg/ guild for the /tosg/ community, either as shitposting material or simply for it's members.

>>170816613
Clover Finder

>>170816717
Oh so thats why. I can't find it on mod manager. Did they remove it?

>>170816702
FP does not even have members now.
They could not even que GBL last night because no people online.

LP quit.
Cats is really not playing, he is in asia fucking ladyboys and 12yo kids.

FP's "history" is kinda "relevant" and keeps the thread sometimes alive.

>>170816702
>>170816923

Yes they did. But I keep a copy to share.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/191096465425301504/282744190545428480/clover_and_rader.rar

>inb4 discord

Shouldn't be too hard to figure out how to install.

>>170812890

if you're br, there's this site

www.neshastore.com/

I never tried, but...

>>170817117
thanks

>>170817246
Do you know anyone that tried? I saw their shout and even talked with them on skype, but It would be good if I could talk to someone who actually sold something to them.

What's the doppelgoon meta for R8?

>>170817246

>yfw a br practonium is 100 us dollarydoos

>>170818148

nope, but maybe you should just give a try with something not very expensive and share the results with me

anyway, the best chance you have is facebook but as a good social abomination neet that I'm, I don't know how I could talk to the people there to offer my stuff and I'm too pussy to risky a shout and I don't even want real money (for now), just some steam credits (like, get a gift game in exchange for tos stuff) would be enough

>>170812890
epicnpc

>>170818751
The guy offered me to trade half of my stuff first and then he would pay me half of the money, after getting the first half I would give them my remaining items and obviously wait for the rest of the money.

I think that's what I'm gonna do. Not much to lose anyway considering that I stopped playing this game months ago.

Will share results here later.

>>170817246
i dont know about that site, (its br monkeys after all) but when i tried to sell gold from another mmo i quit a few years ago, at another site, like 80% of the people tried to scam me.
even if there accounts look 'ok' and if they have positive reviews/likes/thanks/whatever

big asian sellers/buyers are kinda safe, but these random guys are mostly faggots trying to rip you off

>>170819653
>The guy offered me to trade half of my stuff first and then he would pay me half of the money
have fun getting half of you stuff stolen

yes, you dont play and dont rly care, but now you can sell less and he got your items to sell without spending time or money.

>>170819653

Never do anything with some random person, ever. Every time I've sold accounts and tried to go through a random person they tried to scam me. Every single time. Sell it to bulk buyers.

>>170819873
So what's your solution? Not that it matters that much, but their facebook page and site have a good number of posts and reviews recommending them and the accs doing that don't seem to be fake.
>>170820045
>Never do anything with some random person, ever.
I know that much, I'm not selling to some random guy though. It's a site that used to buy items and zenny from players in Ragnarok online here on Hueland.

>>170820045

He's trying to sell to a famous gold-re-seller with a lot of recommendation (like MMOTANK).

>>170820658
That's exactly what I'm doing though, read the chain of replies >>170817246 >>170818148

ohh nvm me

>>170802195
no >:3

>>170820937

It's okay, your advice is right anyway.

>>170822000

>triples

sluuut

>>170804787
Every cube I've opened gave one talt and one card, no more and no less, your results seem to match with mine. Also, my card usually appears on 2nd roll, I now stop spending another 20k once I get the card.

>>170824410

That's a very interesting info, it's almost 100% sure a cub will give you a card, on my tests I only got one cube without card and I god a gold bar from it iirc. If there's no such thing as "cube dpk" to determine that every 3 rolls or so you get a card and you basically can't get two cards fro ma cube, it's really more interesting just to move to the next as soon as you get the card (usually the first roll).

>>170822651
DISINFO!
I am a pure maiden like healmage

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>>170826281
>pure maiden like healmage

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>>170826281
Anon please... CnL got at least 50% more lewder since that one joined.

How do you use Hackapell? It seems like the kind of class that theoretically should be really strong due to having a main weapon in the offhand but I've pretty much only seen one ever.

>>170828583
You can use the headbutt to interrupt bosses attacks for example. You'll like to fill enemies with arrows before using sharp hugging to deal more damage. I think that's all about Hakka.

>>170829070
What do you combine it with? QS3 for faster attacks and Crossbow+1h Sword or do you just go fletcher ranger like the typical mergen?

>>170829173
Yeah I think those two are the most viable options. I think Fletcher Hakka is stronger, but I've never played with this class. Maybe someone could give you better advice, but I'm sure about QS3Hakka and Fletcher3Hakka being the best options.

Help me build a Plague Doctor, /tosg/. I have no idea of what classes should I take for it.

>>170830589
Either go with Cleric2Diev3Miko or Cleric2Bokor2Pardoneer1Diev1.

>>170829173
Instead of the cookie cutter a2 r1 sc1 f3 mergen, you just go a2 r2 f3 hacka

>>170830686
Which skills should I take on either case? What about the stats?

>>170831019
int

>>170831019
>BokorPardoneerPD2
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411447aee.1a2a31435561.1a2a5575.11253544.253585.162a3141566175
>DievMikoPD2
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777iee.1a2a31435561.112535495a6a75.1121354553.162a3141566175

They're both full INT. Either way, you'll need an Agny. With Bokor, you'll have better clearing times soloing dungeons (290ID for example), while DievMiko is better for ET, Uphill and PvP content and it's cuter.

>>170830589
the best way to build it is cleric 2 diev 3 miko PD2 for PvE, go full int
my build looks something like this https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#411777iee.1a2a345561.11253d415a6a75.1121354355.162a31576175
but it might not be the best one

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>>170831595
>9 points into carve attack

>>170831529
>>170831595
>>170831715
Thanks. I'm not interested in PvP, so I guess I will take the Miko one. Time to farm money to buy those Agnys then. Thanks again anons.

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>>170832175
>I'm not interested in PvP

What had this community become? To think we were once the server bullies, purger of minorities.

Oh right, IMC told all PvPers to fuck off.

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I will post my progress every day!

>>170832729
thank you

>>170832615
Well, I never liked PvP to begin with. Anyways, I presume that I shouldn't invest any points on Carve Attack, right?

>>170832832
you shouldn't, it's a physical skill so it doesn't scale with your matk, and it's base damage isn't very good, however, 1 point into it is good enough since it provides utility, you can use it to easily destroy objectives since it's a multihit with 3OH

>>170832615
>minorities.
>everyone is BR and SEA

>>170832729

I wish you the best of luck in your endeavour, from one farmer to another.

Haven't played since August, but I have a recent masochistic streak and I will probably install again today...
Should I level my Diev3 towards something or some new cleric/mage/archer?

>>170834690
Diev3 is still top cleric. and clerics are still top of all.

So what sort of build would benefit from having appraiser the most?

Except PvP where kinos rule

>>170834801
Wiz are just as bad as clerics and better at farming don't know why people act like clerics are still top dog, they are cheaper to run but Wiz are way better when geared.

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>mfw pvping as a non-cata swordsman

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>>170836276
will she teleport behind me?

>>170836276
PvPing as a non-cata Swordsman is just like animes: people are never standing where they seem to be.

>>170836276
just spin to win if you are a doppelnaegro

>>170834912
None. Appraiser is garbage, it's only worth taking for the outfit.

>>170837970
It seems good if you transcend your accessories in PvP for whatever reason. Maybe stacking mdef on Wugu with Porapore set to boost the DoT.

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>>170836276
>>170836468

>>170838695
We were so young, so naive.

>>170838695
>hook miss
>because the kino moved a few pixels and is not sync'd on your screen

just get korean internet for ~0 ping

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>>170838695
Ha! I get it
Gravity Pol- crashed the game and caused the corsair to delusion this scenario

>>170839259
>-20%
FUCKING DELETE THIS

>>170830718

>r2

defend this

>>170839624
I made a build like that
It's undefendable
Scout is just too good for leveling and questing and everything due to stealth
The extra damage is not worth it

>>170839768

I think the extra 5% can't even compete with flare shot.

I fucking love flare shot, plus scout outfit is great

>>170839768
>mounted stealth
(You)

>>170840094
Yeah but getting there is super easy as scout
leveling a fletcher is boring as hell at least invis makes questing bearable

Also sometime in the future you will need to quest and level again and invis will help you a great deal

>>170840094
retard

Is there a way to save this game?

>>170840534
sell to nexon

>>170840534
Tear it down, start over, limit it to R7 until R8's balance issues are worked out, keep gravity pole nerf but do something about cata - fix/remove restrain probably. Disable neutrality and use the gardening system to provide some kind of considerable reward if you can keep your tower standing for a full week... maybe growing practonium, when it's time to release R8 again.

>>170840745
>PvP

No like actual ways to save the game like making monsters interesting to fight and removing Ausrine+Melstis bs, then you can look at PvP after that.

>>170840934
>thinking this game ever had any PVE in the first place
lmao its mvping that has kept RO alive for so long amirite

>>170840745
have any other game done that?

>>170841002
The only thing that kept RO alive is not having an appropriate newer game where you could have fun grinding tons of monsters and being cute.

>>170840934
>PVE fags literally killed the game once already
>n-no if we're going to fix it we have to base it around PVE...!!
I think it's time for you to leave.

>>170841164
FF14, the game was so bad but atleast they closed the game in a nice way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39j5v8jlndM

>>170839768
>>170840027
Flare shot becomes useless later on though.

>>170841221
PvP is nice but if the core systems of the main game are broken you need to focus on that first.

>>170841481
That's not going to fix the problem. This game had a healthy if niche community until open world GVG died. You need to establish a reason for the niche you've got to not abandon your game while you fix the other shit. Your other options are to stay in a revenue-negative development hell until it's 'perfect' (you will never release) or release it without giving your niche what they want, in which case your game dies (like it did after they added neutrality.)

>>170841291
>Rocks fall
>Everyone dies

>>170841609
>This game had a healthy if niche community until EA ended
Fixed that for you.

>>170841609
Don't pretend that it was solely open world GvG removal that killed the game, a lot of people FROM HERE quit because of that but a lot of people also quit because they hit the end game and found out their build outright didn't work for ET, that end game was an impossible grinding mountain of silver, and that the devs seemed incapable of fixing some long time bugs.

>>170841880
Those things caused them to quit because there was no longer any endgame content. PVP and guild conflict generates endless content in and of itself, you'll always have new players that need to be protected from rival guilds, you'll always have drama, PVP perpetuates itself without any help from devs. All they had to do was not outright disable it.

People quit because of connection errors, instance errors, party errors, fps issues, and stupid restrictions.

>>170841994
bullshit

rarely anyone did any GvG (except the tosg).
LP even had to suck dicks (atom) to get any other people joining the GvGs

barely anyone gave a shit about 'glorious' GvG

>>170841994
And what would they do for the 80% of the server that would be guildless because they did not want to have to pvp? Begging for neutrality didn't come out of nowhere.

>>170842575
>Begging for neutrality didn't come out of nowhere.
Gonna be devil's advocate here; neutrality came from Korea, and the thread announcing it on iToS was incredibly negative. It was unwanted as a whole on our servers.

If gvg is that awesome and everyone wants it... why is almost everyone neutral?

Checkmate pvp fags

>>170842676
>and the thread announcing it on iToS was incredibly negative. It was unwanted as a whole on our servers.
nice missinfo
forum and reddit was also begging for it

only a handful of ppl was against it

>>170842956
>time to lie about things that are literally preserved in the forum for review
kek

to bad we can not turn off our neutrality and have gvg with all the hundreds of other gvg loving ppl

>>170843023
nice citations you have there then

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>>170842389
>>170841994
>>170841880
>level a character painfully because all the bugs, fps issues, bots, and restrictions
>finally, it's over and time to enjoy the game!
>2fps world boss and mafia so you can't ever world boss
>99% of the players didn't have a build that could do ET
>other "pve" is running daily dungeons 3 times
>okay i'll enjoy some pvp/gvg even my shitty build works and it isn't time consuming and doesn't have a dozen restriction!
>NOPE! FUCK YOU! you get to do dungeons THREE TIMES IF YOU'RE LUCKY FUCKER! t. kim btw we'll be adding some good stuff in the future so stick around you loser retard
>u-uh, surely they'll improve the game r-right g-guys? 3 months later ~
then they added shitty arena and guild battle. it wasn't a single thing but everything combined that ruined it.

>>170842768
>No Rewards for open gvg
>Only thing you get is a 100k bill for lost towers and a repair bill for equipment

Really activates the almonds

>>170842768
Because they aren't being bribed enough to. They must also be PUNISHED for being neutral so that they don't want to be. .

>>170843270
>I like pvp so much, that i will not do it if i do not get a hot sexy reward. i mean, really.. doing something i totally love without awesome rewards? gay!

>100k being anything

>>170840534

Make it a sandbox MMO. Remove the whole questing shit and encourage people to play together instead.

>>170841291
That game doesn't even resemble Final Fantasy in any way, it's like they took Everquest, watered down the mechanics so that even a casual mobage player could play it and slapped in spells, jobs and monster names from the series. The fact it's part of the main numbered series is baffling. FFXI is more of a FF than XIV will ever be.

>>170843208
>The leveling process is over
>Time to enjoy the game

You are the exact cancer killing MMOs and you don't even realize it, this is why people hate transcendence too it's an extension of the leveling process.

>>170843208
>>finally, it's over and time to enjoy the game!
This thought is why the game failed. No one played RO thinking it was a chore (except lulzpan). MMORPGs are about the progression, not being finished with your character and sitting around with your aura.

>>170843578
>>170843583
>constant stutters because bots are spamming
>terrible spawn time for monsters so you're sitting around waiting for quest monsters to spawn for 5-10 minutes
>broken skills so it's difficult to level as some class
>all this shit about saving cards and yada yada
>limited to 3 dungeon runs only
you're really full of it. it's not like tos has a crafting system or anything you can do besides hit monsters and quest. don't act like you can go around fishing, exploring, or even building anything. you literally can hit monsters and that's fucking it. what's suppose to be so fun about that? NOTHING. mmorpg usually have crafting and other side quests which make it fun

>>170843971
That's why I fucking said to fix the core game mechanics before you fix PvP you mong.

>>170841481

>>170844051
i didn't quote that post so don't spaz out on me. i don't care what they do with this game

>>170843971
>you literally can hit monsters and that's fucking it
And that was enough for ye olde RO.

>>170844462
in ye olde days riding a horse was great too. let's not return to ye olde days.

>>170844462
My favorite passtime as a kid was churning butter out in the yard. Why does everyone need video games?

>>170844685
>implying riding a horse is not still amazing

You guys that rerolled your warlocks into Pyros are missing out, this silver farm is like playing with cheat codes.

>>170844914
I guess you should move on from MMORPGs then. I hear mobile games are the hot new things.

>>170845150
You'd make more just a couple pyros running 240.

>>170845218
tos mobile pls

>>170841413
>fire and forget multihit
>useless
>when transcendence is a thing
Retard

>>170845368
But I get gems and clear vouchers too and don't need to pay attention and I get to watch mobs explode!

>>170845150
I have a necro, why would I farm silver like a pleb?
If I would even farm silver actively, I'd farm orange mats anyway, in a hour I can get 2 dps drops with a thaum and sell both for 3 millions total.

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>>170845150
Pyro Master Race !

xd

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What was this guy's goal?

>>170847663
Crashing this game.

they just uploaded a ToS doujinshi to sadpanda!
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>>170848038
harry kunt nty

>>170848461
This made me realize anyone can draw pubes

>>170848461
Where are the Kupole and Pawnd bullying books?