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Shadowverse is a free-to-play class-based CCG.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

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>>170694436
Erika is only for girls.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12501637
http://www.strawpoll.me/12501645
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I'm really liking this new daria/dshift hybrid deck they put on game ai. You actually use dshift tactically instead of just saving it for a 'hurr i win' turn while shitting removal. Most fun I've had playing this game in a while.
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>>170694571
That ass looks pretty wide open to ANYONE
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>tfw too low iq to know how aegis works
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>>170694571
implying she is not bending for a girl
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>>170694436
That's a ship
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>>170694436
That's not Erika, that's a boat.
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>>170694436
Keep ship sluts out of /svg/, thanks.
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>>170694648
>I used winter's caprice but his Aegis isn't a snowman??? Shadowbabs???
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>>170694645
>I'm really liking this new daria/dshift hybrid deck they put on game ai.
its not new at all
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>>170694645
"Extra spicy bricks" the deck.
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>>170694571
that's not erika
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>>170694645
Link?
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STOP POSTING BOATS
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>>170694851
I got rused
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Daily reminder Nep is a thinking man's deck. Don't try to play it I'd you can only muster 2 digit IQ.

>running Lurching and killing off Bahamut and gaining 0 heal

My sides.
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>>170694782
if i didn't see it on game-ai it is new!
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>>170694782
I thought the previous versions I had seen ran merlin and were more like dshift with darias thrown in. But I'm not really sure.
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>Get good RNG.
>Win.

Great game, shadowbabs.
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>>170694872
Can I post bats?
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>>170695203
post the non-bat version
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>>170694436
Ass thread?
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>unpacked my 3rd otohime-sama
Maybe I should go ahead and make a legit midrange Sword and fuck around for a bit.
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Hags?
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>>170694648
Created this in case there is anymore retards in the thread talking about aegis effects.
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>>170695360
Not even Midrange plays her anymore. Wait for Gawain to see if turn 5 Otomeme is any strong.
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>>170695360
I don't think Mid-range swords run otohimes anymore. Or I haven't que'd into any lately that run them. I mostly see like Alberts/Aurelias on turn 6 and then turn 7 Frontcuck general.
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feel when a dragon player with forte symbol, sleeves, avatar and leader kills you with forte
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>>170695346
>Medusa
hnngg
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>Look at /svg/ in catalog
>Boat sluts
What is happening?

>>170695026
Thinking of suicide?
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Can anyone oblige with a concede?

82238
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>>170695194
Did it hit two fairies?
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>>170695606
how does symbol differ from avatar
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>>170695759

Thanks Vampy
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>>170695026
>percentiles are too complicated for him so he doesn't run a good card

Average shadow retard everybody
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>>170695606
>full forte player unloads 3 forte and 2 eyfa on me
>still couldn't win against my Bahamut
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>>170695832
i dont know why i listed that twice im sorry
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Quick /svg/! Which craft is the most honorable craft and why is it Haven?
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>>170695940
In the current game it's Control Blood
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>>170695881

>Lurching corpse is now a good card

Let me guess. You are going to tell me you always have an activator in hand or your opponent won't just kill her off with trash on the board before dropping their powerhouse?
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>>170695940
Dragon. You can't get more honorable than fighting every creature head-on then conceding
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>>170695940

Dragoncraft.

Instead of mana-cheating, they ramp.

Instead of an effective hyper-aggressive early game, they ramp.

Instead of winning, they ramp.
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I teched in a single Atomy in my Aggroish Midrange Shadow deck and he's actually been working really well considering I have 3 Howls and Resentments plus a lot of last word followers and Bone Chimeras due to having Reapers.

I wonder if Elta Atomy decks will be a thing as he's fuckhuge and nearly impossible to deal with if you get him out early. Elta being on board also means he cuts out any fanfare options that could possibly deal with Atomy as well.
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>see many healthy waifus that originated from gbf
>tried playing it
>it's a clusterfuck and eats new players

The girls and the bois are great, but I wish it was more accessible for newbies.
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>>170696242
I like draphs. They have insane bodies.
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>>170696169
Not pictured: Atomy immediately dying next turn to DoD
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>mfw people can't understand aegis and actually believe that cygames would print a cost 9 8/8 that can't be targeted by stuff but killed by AoE's and effects and will come crying to this general once they fail to "kill" it
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>>170696104

>stating nothing about eggs

Dude. How could you?
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>>170696298
He didn't.

All the netdeck Swordcraft lists at the most runs 2 as far as I can tell and my Atomy plays haven't been DoDed once yet.
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Remember when Dragon players were whining about how garbage Draconic Ferver was and now every single Dragoncraft deck plays it?
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are we being raided? there're much more retards and shitposts than usual, and that's saying something.
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>>170696463
>dragon's best card is a card that loses you tempo
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>>170696535
your post is one of them, just saying
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>>170696617
liek u 2 lmao
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>>170696463
Some people thought it was bad but really most people laughed about playing the card and then conceding.

And they were right about that, it is near impossible to ramp against aggro and not die unless you draw perfectly.
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>>170694648
Why couldn't they just write in his effect, "Can't be removed from the board"?
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>>170696169

>Elta Atomy

It's pretty reliant on two cards you can't just tutor simply.

However I do hope I can make a list where I play double Atomy on one turn and have it work just one time. Maybe 4 Atomy even, with rise of the dead after setup is done
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>>170696535
I take it that everyone is just waiting for the new expansion now and not even playing the game anymore as dailies have become a chore for most.
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>>170696535
You know what, man ? It's okay, because there's something beautiful about this general that's not present in many other.
We actually play the game. As soon as the expansion releases, real posters will be too busy playing to shitpost, and eventual invading faggots will have no attention left and just go away.
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>>170696169
Wanna share your list? I've got 3 Atomys
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>>170696681
Because then if could get Ward via Guardian Sun you dum-dum. It specifically needs "unaffected by everything".
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>daria player has 13 damage on board
>have 15 life
>he misses lethal and demonic strikes one of my dudes
>next turn pic related
The shit you can see in unranked, it's amazing. Poor guy isn't in AA0 for nothing.
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>post yrw soon cygames will announce a neutral "reduce a followers hp to 0" spell so every craft can deal with aegis AND THEN people will finally undertstand how it works
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>>170696664
Ramp IS supposed to be bad against aggro though. Ramp having a weak early game is just logical.
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>>170695784

Yup. I almost wanted to concede.
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>>170696895
The new turn 1 power play will turn it around
Ramp Dragon will literally have no weaknesses
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>>170696841
>using a Demonic Strike anywhere other than face
>actually trying to control the board
>as Dorothy
No wonder he's doing poorly, this deck isn't for him at all.
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>>170696947
Those aggro decks will never be able to beat 2 health and a card PER TURN. I can't believe they printed such a powerful 1 drop, at bronze too!
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>Zoe is not only a cheaper desert rider that does nothing, she actually helps aggro to kill the hag faster

What does cygames mean by this?
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Do you believe?
I hope I can get my first 5-0
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U T S U
T
S
U
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>>170697125
You're Sword, of course you can go 5-0
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>>170697069
She's the most overstatted 3-drop, is what. In theory the drawback can be mitigated by having fucktons of heals.
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>>170697225

She's just 3PP 3/4 and not even 2PP. I think healing is your least concern when you cannot put down other followers with her removing them for you.
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>>170697179
Unfortunately, got cockblocked by another Sword going second.
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>>170697337
You don't attack when you have a follower up, and she starts attacking t4 when you probably have nothing else on the board. It's just a wardless ancient elf.
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What's the most fun Path to Purgatory class

What's the least shitty Path to Purgatory class
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>>170697508
Runecraft
Forest
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>>170697337
>just 3PP 3/4
Yes. A total of 7 stats. In this game a 3-drop has 5 stats.
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>>170697337
Use it with Sun and dont use Zoe for attacking?
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Too many butts.
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>>170697069
The only situation I can see her being useful is with guardian sun on turn 2 to be a turn 3 poor man's AE. Otherwise your opponent can just completely ignore her because every attack is either removing your own board or helping your opponent kill you faster.

>>170697225
Imprisoned dragon technically has same stat line just offensively oriented but his major benefit is having ward by default.

I think they should have made her like imprisoned in that if you evolve her she loses the negative trait.
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>>170697634

There's never too many butts.
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>>170697732
sniff sniff
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meantime the card with the biggest rack in the game is only a plain 3/3 for 3pp and damages your leader by 2 with no other advantage except not being 2/3 or 3/2
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>>170696743
It's a recent change, but it's better than 50% at AA which is where I am.

The Atomy is simply a chance play if I end up drawing him as more than one is horrific bricking potential.

The Tyrant is an out in control games which go on so long I get 20 shadows. It's happened more than once, but I haven't been lucky enough to topdeck him the majority of times it's happened. He's still not bad as card itself though since he's 3 damage storm otherwise. The Ethereal Form isn't bad either as a random +2 out of nowhere as well.

The combination of all these single tech in win conditions though culminates in normal bricking chance.

I've recently had a game where Atomy, Tyrant, Ethereal Form, Cerberus and Cursed Soldier were all in my hand the first 3 turns while not drawing any 1 or 2 drops. Though that's just card games.
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>>170697138
bbbbrrrraaaaaapppp
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What did he mean by this?
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>>170697732
>that broken spine/anatomy
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>>170697634
the threads were made by burgers, they like butts more than boobs and faces
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>>170697726
If we want to be technical obviously soccermom can be higher statted, and Imprisoned has 7 stats too, but not being able to attack is god damn thorn in the foot.
Somewhat interesting is that while Imprisoned loses drawback on evolve, he pays that price by getting only +1/+1 while she has regular evo boost.
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>>170697726
The new 4-drop 3/3 that heals for 2 can cancel the downside of a Zoe attack.
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>>170697781
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>>170697947

Not so, all followers on your board would need more than 2 defense.
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>>170697986
You won't have any, Zoe will hit your face, and you heal up the damage with the 3/3 after attacking with ZoE. You can even heal up Zoe but that's stupid since next turn is evo turn, everything will die.
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>>170697840

Vampy-chan's spine/anatomy isn't broken at all!
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>>170697840
except it is not true, you can try to strike a similar pose yourself
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How is Takao shadowverse-related
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>>170697576
That's the best use for her I feel like. In a Sun deck you don't necessarily have to attack with her and she's a basically a powered up Ancient Elf for 3 cost. I don't see her being that useful for Storm since you're already taking a lot of hits early against aggro decks and she doesn't combo with the rest of the deck like amulets.
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>finishing shitty coding assignment
>done, now I can chill with svg bros
>read previous thread
>hurr durr aegis is shit hurr durr dies to hard removal
>autism intensifies

Can't you fuckers read, very clearly it says only elf and Kaguya will be able to deal with it. How fucking hard is that.
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>>170697810
Delete and kys.
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>>170696883
It will cost at least 5 pp, maybe 7.
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>>170698175
oh just get lost, we clearly didn't miss you here

maybe you got another coding assignment?
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>>170698175

>elf

If you are going to tell me about pegasus or vine, you must be bad at coding too.
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>>170698150
Looking at the filename, OP was either retarded or pretending to be.
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>>170697970
why
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>>170698175
>elf
No.
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>>170696841
Let me guess, you still lost.
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Why are maids so lewd?
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Fuck evolve. The mechanic was cool in standard but every expansion it gets more and more obnoxious as they print more and more cards that benefit way too fucking much from evolves. I think evolve is the root of this game's problems more than anything else, they did not do a good job of designing around their central mechanic.
It only leads to going second being better than first
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>>170698248
maybe it's how pachouli supports the life force of her familiar
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>>170698339
Evolved was fine until sword got all storm/rush cards. You can just save until t9 albert.
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>>170698175
>put him at 1 health
>no effects that reduce health to 0
>a-aegis b-btfo
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>>170698339
Take 1 attack off of every Storm evolve and it's fine imo. The biggest design oversight is that Storm followers get full evolve stats in addition to essentially getting "deal 2 more damage to the enemy" as an effect.
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>>170698330
why are skeletons so interested in sex
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Israfil or Lucifer in a Saha deck?

Isra seems to impact the board more and is a bit beefier.
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>>170698339
>implying you don't want to go first when playing aggro especially in aggro vs aggro matches
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>>170698481

They have advanced boners.
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post egg memes
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>>170698551
Both.
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Why?
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>>170698551
why not both?

>>170698639
punish bahamut

it's pretty shitty vs aggro sword though
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>>170698551
You'd run both.

You'd use Lucifer if there's only one thing to remove for the heal and Israfil if there's a board to clear.

You'd also get a smooth 7-8-9 curve with the both of them.
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>>170698552
Eh, going first just means that one of your creatures is going to be Levi'd, bald priest'ed, or w/e else. Unless you are a lucky banner/daria and they are in fireball range on turn 4
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>>170698710
>>170698696
>>170698637
How many copies of each? I already run Satan and Bahamut.
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>>170698639
power creep means they need to start introducing cheaper hard removal and they figured they'd give it a test drive by modifying death sentence
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>>170697634
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
BRUUUUUUUPBFBPTUUUUUUUUUUUUUPFTTTT
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Banished cards don't count for shadows, right?
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>>170698751
3 each and one less bahamut. Also gotta bring 3 copy of goblin princess for that swee lt goblin king ward.
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>>170698639
why not?
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>>170698751
Well right now, 0 Israfil.
Settle down lad, can't really theorycraft until the entire set is spoiled.
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>>170698765
>powercreep
>limited to normal cards being 1-3 costs, good cards being 4-6 and everything above is finisher tier.
Talking about limiting your design space, they did a great job at that
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>>170698212
why the fuck would it cost 7? it's already worse than dance of death at 5.
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>>170698639
the god of democracy!
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>>170698751
to be honest, I'm not sure. I want to play the deck but am too lazy to disenchant any Legindaries since I unironically play meme decks.

Will really have to try it out, but considering how good Saha -> Lucifer already is, having a Lucifer+Salamander Breath sounds pretty fucking good.
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This card would be fun: transform all followers on the field into 0/1.

Then if the board is full and no one has removal you just End Turn until you deck out.
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>>170698956
Not saying your post necessarily implied so, but just in case, remember Israfil won't heal you from Saha.
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>>170699003
Yeah I think 5 slots is too many so I want there to be control decks that instantwin if their opponent ever plays more than 4 minions.
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>>170699003
>2 cost amulet
>Countdown 2 Heal your leader for 2
>Turn an enemy creature into 0/1
>That creature turns another creature on enemy and ally side into a 0/1 on turn end
>Haven
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Dshift should be 30pp.
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>>170699125
shit, you're right.
The salamander breath is still good though I suppose, if all you need to do is clear board vs heal 4.
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>>170698714
Aggro blood has like a +9% win increase when going first, shadow has around +4% and sword ends up near even winrates going 1st or 2nd as aggro.

Initial tempo advantage is huge as a deck that wants to swing face every turn. And if you're playing control you especially want to go first against aggro blood and aggro shadow so they can't run you over. Sword is the only aggro deck where it doesn't seem to matter because they have strong turn 4 evolves like floral fencer, plus extra evolutions for Albert.
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>>170699219
Remember that Isa hits face too, so she can push for lethal when she clears.
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>>170699214
SV shouldn't be a mobile game
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>>170698639
Because DoD is too expensive and Themis is wasted on one dude.
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>>170698830
Nope
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Why is a shitty boat in the OP?
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>>170699338
Because Discord.
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>>170699251
If I'm playing vs aggro, I want to get to evolves first. Granted, earlier board clear is good, but if aggro gets evolves before you, you might as well be ded
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>>170699338
Because Erica wants to motorboat the princess
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>>170698339
Why exactly did you c/p my post from last thread?
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>>170699484
Because I was lazy about it.
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>Overflow now activates at 6pp
Does this fix Dragon, break it, or not at all?
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>>170699525
who the fuck uses overflow cards they're even worse than vengeance
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>>170699525
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
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Khawy will kill aegis

Screencap this post havenbabs
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>Baphomet+Azazel+Bloody Mary can deal 20 face damage in one turn through wards

How do you counter this
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Isn't this card pretty insane? If you trade your follower with some ward and both dies she will turn into 6/6 7PP storm. At least she will be 5/6 storm most of the time. I'm not sure if Aggrobats will use her since she's 7pp but trading your board to big ward like Aurelia will gives this card lots of attack that will finish the game for you.
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>>170699772
Albert to face.
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>>170699375
You do not want to get hit in the face a million times before you can fight back on turn 4. Going first allows you to put them on the defensive or even prevent them from having board presence until turn 4. If you keep them off the board entirely then they have to use their evolution to trade which means they lose out on face damage.

Go look at the win-rates of shadow and blood versus control decks when they go first or second. In some cases they literally drop 15% winrate when they can't go first. This I must always go 2nd to win is literally all in your head. Not every deck in the game wants to go 2nd.
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I found Merlins, can I make a fun deck with them?
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>>170694648
>English release of Aegis from official page is literally is not immune to board wipes
>How dare you not know Japanese and take the English version of the card THEY fucked up at face value

So can we get a mistranslation buff for Rowen's meme card too?
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>>170699796
Turn 6 Vamp Queen T7 Soul Dom might be interesting.
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>>170699772
By dealing a single point of damage to the class that has shitty wards and a ton of cards that kills itself.
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>>170699796
usefulness isn't limited to wards. if your bats can kill something she gets one extra damage from that
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>>170699796
is it me or she wants to penetrate herself with her own tail?

also when you can play her most of the time your board will be empty
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>>170699525
Oracle now draws one turn earlier. World-changing.
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Is Dark Jeanne viable?
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>>170699882
No only dshift.
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Elves are cute!
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>>170700020
Lol
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>>170699796
She's ok, but I doubt she'll be used in aggro, well if people slap Alucard and Matriarch in some. Plus trying to slam it in Aurelia, means there's a high chance a Hamsablade or Tsubaki waiting.

Maybe she'll be played in mid/control blood.
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>>170700020
LOL
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>>170700020
The card hasn't even been released yet.
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>cant be targeted
>cant be board cleared

so random target should still work then? what about bane?
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>>170700159
>only literal d rank shitter play that shit.
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>>170699525
Dragon Oracle into Aiela or another Oracle would allow you to hit overflow on turn 4.

There are actually only 18 cards with an overflow effect in the whole game.

>Things Dragon already runs normally:
Ivory Dragon
Dragon Oracle
Forte

>Things that Dragon may tech in for specific decks:
Grim Reaper
Maelstrom Dragon
Seabrand Dragon

>Things that I literally never see except in TT:
Dragon Rider
Shapeshifting Mage
Dragontamer
Dragonewt Princess
Firstborn Dragon
Twin-headed Dragon
Firstborn Dragon
Serpent Force
Leviathan
Queen Serpent
Transmogrified Wyrm
Dragonguard

>Flute:
Flute

The only difference as far as I can tell would be that they might start running Dragonguard again simply because he's a huge ward and people could get unhittable Forte out a turn earlier. It'd be a buff to Face dragon, but not much else probably.
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>>170700020
>is dark Jeanne viable?

Not unless she combines with light Jeanne to form Grey Jeanne.
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>>170700252
He's literally unkillable. This is why Shadow will be trash next expansion too.
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Has anyone theorycrafted a use for Eachtar?

You're not going to have 12 shadows by turn 7 because you need to use them for other stuff.

Rush is also crap.
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>>170700262
eyfa
her enhance is effectively an overflow effect
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>>170700020
lel
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>>170699525
Dragon just needs a little more healing and it will be great again. We might get there with the new angel, but we'll see.
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>>170700368
She's 7 to cast, a 6 overflow won't matter.
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>>170700358
Ignore the zombies and just have him be a booster for your other followers?
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i fucking hate sword
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>>170699992
>tail masturbation
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>>170700349
Have they released any cards yet that change defenses to 0?
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>>170700413
fuck off with your healing cancer
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>>170700020
2nd worst card released so far after zoe
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>>170700425
implying you wouldn't do it too if you were a succubus :3
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>>170700349
should be 8 cost desu

why would i run this over seraph?
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>>170700349
>have shitty incomplete Elena deck, no Themis or Seraph or Moon bunny
>ROB keeps giving me shitty Memedelion
>this card pops up
>3k jew gold ready to blow
Come on cygames
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>dragon mirrors are literally just a fucking coin flip who draws their stan first
get me out of this hell
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>>170700546
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>>170698227
>>170698447
Forest has "enemy can't attack" cards retards
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>>170700546
It's so pointless.

It's worse than D-shift in literally every way.

D-Shift and Seraph broke the fucking game, no other control decks will ever be viable.
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>>170700546
Because it doesn't require you to build your deck around him. You need to run cards like Sister, Healing Prayer and Prism in Seraph. Also, he doesn't get banished by Odin.
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>>170700584
Aegis isn't affected by those.
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>>170700584
>not effected by ANY card abilities EXCEPT those that change stats

s-shit you're right aegis b-btfo
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>>170700584
Try reading Aegis again idiot.
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New card

Blood

After evo: At the end of your turn, deal 1 damage to all otherfollowers.
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>>170700662
>>170700349

this card is fucking retarded

even mtg doesnt have a card that is literally unkillable
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>>170700725
a blood card which is not a hot girl?
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>>170700725
Vlad?
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>>170700725
source or it's fake news
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>>170700725
blood gets more garbage, sigh
better start crafting alberts and cerberuses for the next meta i guess
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>>170700781
Vlad Dracula
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>>170700725
A Lucius that needs an evolve point.
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>>170700358
Burial Grounds

>but m-muh board space
4 is fine

>>170700725
source?
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>>170700821
literally a worse mastema and mastema is already a shit
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>>170700805
>>170700835
Check either of the official twitter accounts.
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>>170700358
The +2/+0 is good.
Flood board, drop him, then go face for 2-8 extra damage.
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>>170700830
Pretty much but slightly better stats. Seems like something for arena.
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>>170700020
am actuallly so fucking mad at Jeanne reveal. So fucking terrible that I'd rather it not exist so I could have a higher chance at Aegis.

>>170700546

seraph fag here
they always have >>170700579
ALWAYS.

It's also the same reason why you don't run moon bun bun. They ALWAYS have the removal for it.
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>>170700358
Immortal Thane my dude.
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>>170700286
that will be the next crossover
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>>170700725
>>170700821
worse lion
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how many golds and silvers each craft gets?
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>>170700995
lion gets +0/+0 when evo'd.
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>>170700821
>>170700725
It's Blood's answer to a T5 albert evo, and is Blood's Lion Spirit. I thought it was trash at first, but he might see play.
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>>170700821
>2 days without leak
>this trash is what we get

Just give me the dragon legend already.
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>>170700995
a worse lucius if you judge by the effect
lucius doesn't even need evolve and has a better effect

a worse mastema if you judge by the stats

the effect is pretty bad too because it clears your bats, either the actual bats or bat wards etc and barely helps to clear the enemy stuff
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>>170700821
this is unironically a good card
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>>170701060
lions aoe happens on evolve
it basically has 6 attack for trading
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>check game ai tier list again
>all the aggro decks went to tier 2 and tier 1 is just DShift, Daria and Midrange Sword

Ayyyyyy, what the heck happened

Does anyone just agree that Rune is cancer when it dictates the meta so much?
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>>170700821
>+2/+2 on evolve
>has evolve effect

REEEEE MUH CONSISTENCY
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>>170701115
>Dshift
>tier 1
>when it instaloses to any aggro deck
kek, what a joke
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>>170701119
It's an evo effect with a drawback (hurts your own followers) so it's fine.
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>>170700895
>A card that actually affects the board
>Can trade
Already better than Mastema
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>>170700020
Obviously, second best card in the game.
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>>170701115
Would it kill Rune if you make Crimson Sorcery 2 cost or old fart 3 cost?
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>>170701115
>d-shift
>tier 1
Every time

This was a deck I compiled to beat d-shift filled with only the most powerful cards one can imagine
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>>170701096
>need evolve to get the effect unlike lucius
>lucius also damages 1pp followers by 2
>worse stats than mastema that also has bane btw
>should survive the turn he was played on to get the effect i.e. you cannot suicide trade him if you want the effect
>will never survive for more than 1 turn to get the effect twice unless it helps them like if he kills your own bat wards or something

>>170701224
can't even trade freely if you want the effect
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>>170701181
By now I am convinced that Nips have an unhealthy fetish for cowtits basically

Still, when you consider the increased number of control decks to deal with aggro and Daria rune...it may have a better place in the meta

Still, that realization disgusts me a bit. Daria Rune causes the meta to revolve around itself thus resulting in control decks, and then DShift comes in and makes all the control decks suffer.
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>>170701334
There is fucking nothing in the game that he can't trade into and survive on turn 5.
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>>170701307
>nightmare
>beast dominator
>midnight vampire
>crimson purge

lol
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Ok what if
Control Rune
Satan as wincon
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>>170696031
unga bunga me heal for 50 me clear board as well as haven
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>>170701335
What's wrong with cowtits?
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>>170701375
Wrong
Bane ?
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>bloodcraft was supposed to be vampires
>now it's edgy satanic demons
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>>170701115
>a deck with sub-50% winrate is t1
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>>170701042
4 silver 2 gold.
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>check latest card reveals
>Sword's amulet features Lecia but not her as a follower
>Rune gets its own main leader that fetches a spellboost card instead

Man, Lecia, how come your dad and Monika gets a card but you dont?

Also, Freshman Lou is...man, I already predict thats going to be a DShift staple
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>>170701483
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>>170700821
i'd rather run erinyes and flood behemoth
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>>170701510
Excuse me that I find tits that are bigger than a person's head to be a turn-off due to how exaggerated are they to the point their backs should be aching from all that
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>>170701578
I don't play whatever game these followers are from. Who is Monika's dad?
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>>170701375
any follower with bane?
inb4 there are few of those blah blah blah, prepare to meet a few wight kings the next expansion

an evolved aurelia?

an evolved ancient elf?

also are you going to play him on turn 5 only?
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>>170701642
Good thing she has magic so backpain won't be a problem.
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>>170701642
>not levitating your own tits with magic
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>>170701678
>any follower with bane?
>inb4 there are few of those blah blah blah, prepare to meet a few wight kings the next expansion
>an evolved aurelia?
>an evolved ancient elf?
All of these are fair, albeit very specific.
>Are you going to play him on turn 5 only
Well I sure as shit won't be playing him on turn 9.
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>>170701537
Aren't vampires pretty much just demons in the first place?
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>>170701537
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>1 damage to all other followers

So he can only impale fairies and little knights? That's disappointing.
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>>170701673
Not Monika's dad, Lecia's dad, whos Captain Walfried, hes the new Gold coming in the new expansion who has the same fanfare effect as sage commander + navy lieutenant + admiral

The picture for Support Cannon depicts Lecia, who is his daughter
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>>170697812
hes retarded
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>d-shift has literally a 16% winrate against aggro necro

T-tier 1
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>>170701673

>>170701578 is talking about Lecia's dad and he is Walfrid, at least in RoB.
I dunno if he is the same in GBF, I think it was some blue knight.
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>>170701802
One can only hope she will get a follower version later.
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>>170701782
lucius does it better too

he can kill otohime guards, goblins and generally any unevolved 1pp drop also doing 1 damage to any non 1pp follower

he doesn't need evolve for it too, it's his fanfare
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>>170701818
>d shift unironically has a 43% winrate against all decks
TIER 1
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>>170701828
I like to guess that Walfried still sports the nice mustache underneath all that armor

>>170701818
From the beginning I said that Nips have a fetish for Rune and Isabelle's tits. There is no good reason why DShift is tier 1 when quite a number of players in the meta are aggro. Sure, it almost autowins against any other control deck, but control decks are lower in % in general due to their cost geez
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>>170701904
mental gymnastics from sword mains eh??
those guys can convince themselves anything
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>>170701181
Its not instant lose, if you have enough removal you can still win.
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>>170701642
i like butts but a nice pair of saggy breasts suits me fine too
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>>170701952
It being tier 1 is misinformation, simple as that. It's not. This isn't Smogon tiers, they come from winrate, not usage rates.
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I'm conflicted bros. Right actually feels like it could have some meme synergy, though I suppose left's probably the better choice, got 3 Ambush followers (5 with enhanced ninja arts), Baha Luci + Wind God are my current legos/golds.
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>>170701952
>>170702143
DShift is tier 1 because it does well in tournaments. DShift has always been a strong tournament deck but a poor ladder deck.
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>>170701952
>There is no good reason why DShift is tier 1 when quite a number of players in the meta are aggro
Why does somebody always make this retarded statement when the meta goes to aggro

>Lots of aggro in the meta
>Players start playing control to beat them
>D-Shift gets free wins
Hence the retarded winrate every time it happens
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>>170701928
ANGELIC BARRAGE
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>>170702216
Ideally, tiers ought to refer to ladder by default unless stated otherwise.
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>>170702216
ladder and tournament isnt the same meta dumbass
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Where were you when shadow gets a perfect balance of cuties and spookies skeletons?
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>>170702348
What does it do
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>>170702183
Arthurian light is actually pretty good iirc.
Thats the "get a free 1/1 storm every turn" right?

I guess left is safer though, since castle requires actually having followers and ninja master can solo win games.
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>>170702393
Fanfare : gives an allied follower the ability to ignore Ward
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>>170702319
I know.
Game-ai tier lists are geared towards tournament play
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>Erika story ch 11
>AI pulls turn 7 Leonidas by cheating with dragoncraft cards
>Twice

Now THAT'S bullshit.

Doesn't sword get a card that reduces by 2 the cost of a commander? Because 7 mana leonidas is ridicolously strong.
>>
MAY IS A CREATURE OF PURE EVIL
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>>170702429
I see, thanks
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>>170702439
Did you see the guardian sun leonidas or the Neph into Leonidas and White Wolf (for a silver bolt)? Not to mention the bloodcraft with all the 1 damage pings and JO crystals in forest chapter 11.
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>attempt to play with daria for the first time
>deck myself
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>>170702439
Fortunately that was an uncertain translation
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15632
pls concede
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>>170702562
>Attempt to play with Daria for the first time
>Have no idea what I'm doing
>Win anyway
It's like playing Dragunity where you can just Gilligan your way into victories
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>play tempo against Daria
>suddenly Angelic Barrage
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>>170702547
Guardian sun leonidas.

Damn those nepnep combos truly sound terrifying too
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>>170702437
>戦績記録ツールにおける、週間数十万試合という膨大なデータを参照しつつ、マスターランク帯を中心に独自のリサーチを元に、デッキの「流行度」と「強さ」合わせた評価となっております。
Their own tier list page says they use the data from hundreds of thousands of matches every week. That's not tournament play.
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>>170702439
>turn 4 gawain
>turn 5 gawain gets killed obviously, drop some 4/5 drop, artillery support will be for the memes
>turn 6 gawain again with rush
>turn 7 leo
Alternatively Monika with Artillery support is scary as fuck
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>>170702950
control sword looks cancer as fuck with these coming cards.
Enough wards and removal up the ass to deal even with Dshift. Also going to have to deal with t7 and t8 Leonidas. Potentially even shit like Leo->T9 on curve Albert.
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>>170702950

>artillery support

We already has a proper english name for it.
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>>170702950
Luminous Mage will probably be better with Support Cannon since you're bringing out two commanders at once while also getting free evolve. Gawain with a hand full of commanders and cannon could be hilarious honestly.
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>>170703371
>card: skip turn 5
>>
NEED

NEW

LEAKS
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>>170703442
>do nothing meme
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>>170703442

>skip a turn to make all your commanders May on steroid

Just keep the board neutral until then, I suppose. It's not Sword doesn't have cards to cuck aggro with.
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>>170703442
Arthurian Light but not shit
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>>170703510

We just Vlad (heh) and it's weekend.
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>>170694436
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>>
Say my curve for blood aggro is goblin, summon bloodkin, vampire prince
Then after my turn 2, my opponent plays attendant of night
Do I still play the vamp prince, who has ward?
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>>170703705
>vampire prince
That's meant to be Veight by the way
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>>170703705
Yea
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>>170703705
It doesn't matter whatever is in opponents board because trading=bad
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>>170703705
Even if he gets his 4/4 out he's still going to need to keep attacking it into your followers
Keep adding shit that will hit face or waste resources
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>>170703731
Damn I almost thought you meant me
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>tfw I wanna climb so bad, but I know right now is a bad time, and I would only lose points
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>>170704143
>right now is a bad time
what, why?
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>>170704143
just play aggro bats desu
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>>170704283
Because it's 2:33am where I am, and I'm super tired. I just have the urge to ladder, but I know I'm not at my best right now. And I'm only 700 points away from AA3
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Whats the best rank to get "conceders"(people that concede in order to stay in low rank to farm score rewards)
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>tfw no nep no khawy vs an aggro sword with a perfect curve

https://my.mixtape.moe/kgekhk.webm

funnily i didn't even need that cerb
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>>170703705
>goblin

Why run goblins in aggro blood? Wraith and cursebrand are the only one drops you should need.
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>>170704740
missed lethal by not crashing ding dong into his ninja
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Why is Urias in the game just to suffer?
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>>170704837
Not having a 1-drop then going 2nd is suffering. I personally use 1-2.
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>>170704837
Having 9 1-drops for that 1-drop consistency. Having a 1-drop for an aggro deck is important. I'm not the guy you're responding to, but I prefer 9 1-drop in my aggro decks.
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>>170704765
>nepdeck
>topdeck khawy two neps a mord and 2 deaths breaths in my hand
>draw another deaths breath
>they have a deathly tyrant deck
>end up gettting memed hard as i keep topdecking all my high pp cards

S U F F E R I N G
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>Make it so Baphomet can tutor 5 attack Blood cards
>Release no new Blood cards with 5 attack to tutor.
Explain this Cygamesbab.
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Stop playing Nep
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>>170704837
Just for consistency like the others said. I could use some advice though, I used to rub goblin mage then replaced it with killer devil and midnight vampire, but I think I should them it out for something else but I wasn't sure what to use. Should I get 3 Vamp fortress?
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>>170704740
>https://my.mixtape.moe/kgekhk.webm

Such a noob sometimes kyle, on turn 8 you still had enough pp and one shadow to play the second howl and you wouldve won then and there.
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>>170704883
oh, indeed :3
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>>170705261
you are the noob though, if i had sacrificed bellringer i wouldn't have needed the second howl

no idea wtf is "kyle"
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>>170705068
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Started playing this today out of boredom and I have to say that its pretty fun.
Some stupid, typical yet archaic design choices here and there that are common in most lower budget jap games, but other than that. Its alright.

Changing the voices into Japanese was a bit of a hassle too, but at least it could be done. The English voice acting was SO fucking bad. It made my ears bleed.
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>>170705173
That's my aggro blood list. I used to run Gob Mage x3 and Angel of the Word x1, and I swapped the copies with the nerf. I think Gob Mage is still worth the slot. If you see too much Goblinmount Demons, swap some cards for 2 DoD.
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>>170705439
Well you didnt do that either did you? you didnt do either of those things did you? dont call me a noob because i pointed out a way you couldve won, someone else also pointed out another way you couldve won so you made not 1 but 2 noob mistakes, so you are indeed a noob, kyle.
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>>170704740
>perfect curve
>centaur vanguard
>pompous princess
>forge weaponry
>not a single Albert

D-rank?
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>>170701483
Why do I want to win 4+ turns later than I could have?
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>>170705439
Which means you fucked up twice, and you are lucky the guy didn't draw into a DoD.
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>>170705889
To have stronger midgame
Not to be a rug the aggro can walk over
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>>170705965
As if any aggro deck doing what its supposed too would let you get to turn 10
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>>170703371
>cards that introduce massive rng swings outside of shadow
cool just what i wanted
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>>170705007
there are already a bunch of good cards to tutor
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I am grateful that swordbros can't into basic math.
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>>170706018
Combo Dshift lets them
It is not that easy if you actually resist
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>>170706067
>tfw your opponent has a 1/2 4/4 6/6 and 2/1 and your lurching zombies effect kills the 1/2

You can literally hear the laughter coming from the other side.
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>>170706095
most of the cancersword fags don't know how to play the aggro matchup, that's good because when I play a sword mirror I have something like a 90% winrate
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>>170706095
He couldnt know you had howl, thats played in your turn, what math is he supposed to do during your turn to prevent his loss? I mean he can guess youre going to summon 3 1/1 storm ghosts and evolve 1 but guess is the best he couldve done.
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>>170706165
you wanted the hearthstone audience
well you got the gameplay too
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>>170705809
it's an aggro sword not "midrange"
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>turn 10 vs disco otk
>he played 2 wildfang and altered fate hit me for 10
>he played another wildfang
>oh shit oh shit here comes the finishing blow
>he played ANOTHER altered fate
>then
>decked
>out
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How do we make Aegis viable?
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>>170706559
Give it Storm
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>>170706559
We play Elana
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>I play my meta decks in unranked so i can finish my dailys asap

Does this make me a bad person?
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>>170706701
A bad person and a massive pussy.
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>>170698639
Ooooobjection!

Also triggers the Luci. Playing this while Luci's on the field is top chuckle worthy
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>>170706701
>missing out on score rewards because you're a pussy
yes
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>>170706559
make it cost 5 pp
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NEW LEAKS WHEN
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>>170706294
He could've just trade and win easily.
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>>170706427
That's not aggro sword unless they built the shittiest aggro sword deck imaginable.

In aggro Albert should be the only commander so you always pull him with maid. Also you wouldn't run anything like art of the ninja. Just whole-souled swings and DoD for big wards minions.
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>>170702950
Naw.
Turn 4: evolve Gawain
Turn 5: cannon
Turn 6: cannon
Turn 7: wipe their board (evolve cyclone soldier + cyclone blade?)
Turn 8: Monika x2
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>>170706821
>do nothing for 2(TWO) turns
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>>170706821
Only against control or maybe tempo decks, if you try to pull this against aggro or daria, good luck surviving until turn 7.
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>>170706880
nice meme
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>Play around SKY KNIGHTS, PREPARE FOR BATTLE for fucking ages.
>This means doing all kinds of dumb shit like Odin onto Unica.
>On maybe turn 18 or over I finally run out of instant answers and prepare my anus for Alberto.
>He didn't have it that turn.
God I fucking hate Albert. Even when my opponent doesn't have him drawn, I have to play around him and do stupid shit.
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>went to do my dailies in ranked
>won 4, lost 5 games
>gained 97 score

welp, how is it in that bushido book "One must edge forward like the inchworm, bit by bit." ... grr

pls, delete all d-shitters
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Some dragoncraft cunt just topdecked a second seabrand dragon and killed me when i was setup to take him out following turn.

Why do I feel so embarrassed.
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>>170706983
I want to put my inchworm in Vampy.
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>>170706803
dude, the classic aggro sword runs albert but it also uses a couple of other commanders

nowadays every sword deck runs albert

the deck with albert as the only commander is only one of the options, albeit popular, it's a bit slower than the classic aggro sword
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>>170707008
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>>170707034
Its so maid leader definitely pulsl him out, but its rare that you need that, I usually draw albert if not 2 by turn 5
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A-AA wins should receive 150 ranking points by default, with the required points to rank up scaled equally. And Master should get 200.

We need some reward for putting up with the cancer in the ladder. B rank is all around better.
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>>170707008
HEAR THE MEGALORCA'S ROAR
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>>170707127
i know, but yet again, without pompous/fencers etc it's a bit slower that's why it's named midrange

also art of ninja is pretty common in aggro-ish sword decks as well as all kinds of buffs - keen/forge/headpats

i personally prefer demonic and dod though
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>>170707140
that's stupid. if anyone can climb even while losing then there is no point to ranked play.
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>>170707140
Back in the early days A - Master wasn't as competitive as it is now. They should tweak it so you get more points for a win now though.
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>>170707140
I just wish the rewards increased as you went up in score. Like you should get more than only 50 ruppies past 20k score. It feels like you are not rewarded at all for going all the way up to 100k.
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>>170707008
tfw i have just won vs a dragon cunt who odined my both mordecais and healed back around 10 points of damage

why is it even allowed
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>>170706946
kys dubcuck
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>>170707243
For score rewards, dumbshit. Points lost would be scaled the same, too.
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>>170707426
you don't lose points for score rewards though
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>Though his body is that of a man, his heart is that of a...

what did they mean by that
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>>170707539
secretly a furry
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>>170706701
>yurius, big bad wolf, summon bloodkin... queen vampire
>meta deck
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>>170707470
His whole point is that you should be rewarded for climbing the ladder, not punished. You don't get win streaks when you hit A rank, and if you want to be an AA/Master player, you'll be matched with meta decks/tryhards constantly.

I don't have troubles clearing my dailies as a Master player, but sandbagging (aka staying at low ranks) is legit if you don't want to tryhard or spend too much time in the game every day for your missions. You aren't rewarded at all for climbing.
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What cards can a forest deck run to improve the haven matchup?
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>>170707697
sandbagging is a meme
doing dailies in unranked is not nearly as painful now that nobody is running elana and dshift anymore
as long as you have a somewhat decent deck for each craft you will be fine
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>Final stretch to Masters
>Get matched with your best matchups
>Lose because you started first and drew like garbage

Oh I hate this oh I hate this oh I hate this I just want to get to Masters man I hate this oh oh oh I hate this

I'm dropping this game once I get to Masters this is just such a bad design I can't believe anyone takes this game seriously when it has such a coinflip mechanic built in
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>>170707603
Queen vamp has been a tech in aggro bats lately.

Honestly it's not too bad an idea cause it nabs a few victories where you'd have otherwise have been out aggro'd or controlled. It's summon bloodkin with a body and a buff, honestly not a stretch even though it's a core control blood card.
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>>170707772
Roach OTK with Wolfcoming to counter Sun wards.

Ancient Elf and Tia tempo plays plus Fairy Beast heals to counter Storm Haven while you prep for Roach OTK.

You're kind of fucked if it's Elana Haven and they manage to start growing stuff.
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D-shift fuckers in Drank, what the hell seriously, they never say anything either, everytime ive greeted one of these dshift cunts they never say anything.
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>>170707910
So you don't go for score rewards while doing your dailies?

I never fucking play besides my dailies, why would I suffer against Masters players so that I can get 20 vials after 2,000 more points?
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>>170708106
#1 Feature in SV is disabling emotes for your opponents.

#2 Feature is replay system.
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i want to FUCK grea!
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>tfw too lazy to change to JP voices
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>>170708106
>she summoned them all one turn when i was 2 turns away from win
FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY
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>>170707772
Roach, im serious. Thats your only bet against seraph and dshift. Selwyn Command pretty good also. Fiary Knight can kill snakes.
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>>170707980
I feel you bro. Turn imbalance being so retarded is 90% of what I hate about this game.
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>>170708237
anne?
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>>170708363
girls cant fuck girls dummy
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>autistically shuffle cards for 6 turns
>no one evolves or attacks anything
>otk my opponent on turn 7

Ummm shadowbabs?
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Why isn't this card getting any love? I am so pumped for my Triangle Attack deck with Eyfa, Aine, and Forte/
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>>170708547
>gold card that is on average worse than a mediocre bronze
>why isn't it getting any love?

Cygames hates dragon
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>>170708542
how can you otk if you take multiple turns to kill them
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>>170708306
Nothing here is fair.
Daria having a million value, Sword never ever EVER using their GOD DAMN evos so you can't ever pressure them
IT ISN'T GOD DAMN FAIR THIS DESIGN IS BAD
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>>170708646

It's really not bad. Just a slightly inferior Imp Lancer and potentially a lot better if you have a board.
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>>170708547
Dragon has crap for board flood.

If there's enough stuff on the enemy side that Aina can actually get decent attack then the enemy board is probably threatening lethal already.

If trying to use her to save evolves, she'd be a 2/5 rush for 6 against a single enemy follower and likely wouldn't be able to kill it.
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>>170708739
Just wait for the 5 cost summon megalorca overflow: summon two more Lego
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>>170708547
Because at best it's only 5/5, and dragon isn't really based on flooding the board with cheap minions? Would've been more popular as a sword card. Honestly seems like a kind of shitty gold to me. Seabrand is better.
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I just got two animated Dragonsong Flutes

Should I bother making Dragonsong memes or should I just vial them? I don't really care for Dragonshit to be honest
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>>170708739

Face dragon usually has one or two followers on the board and this is clearly a card for face dragon where just having the 9x storm cards would be pretty sick, especially when 3x of those are an enhance card that doesnt brick your deck.
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You are so funny cyagames! making epic cards for my craft!
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>>170708547
I guess it's a true 6PP play, since Forte doesn't have "can't be attacked" until 7PP.
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>>170708779

But Seabrand doesnt work with Urd and cant be used as a finisher until turn 7 if you don't ramp.
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>>170708775
>Dragoncraft
>Having good overflow effects
Nice meme.
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Man I can't figure out how to modify CSword once ToG hits

>Replace Healing Angels with Grimnir, that's the easy part
>Replace Amelia with Gawain? Jeno with Gawain?
>Toss out Monika for Luminous Mage?
>What to even drop for Support fire memes?
>Probably have to drop Blitz or Ninja arts
>Have to drop Cyclone Blade probably

It's gonna be a rough first week.
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>getting killed by complete noobs because you draw bad

Fucking A, i know this happens but this swordfuck had 3 chances to kill me and missed em all 3 times like the noob he was, didnt matter though I still ended up losing because i didnt draw jack shit to counter the bumrush for 8 turns.
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>>170708794
My only viable dragon deck is Flute/Spire and it's fucking fun. Yeah you have to have two amulets on the board, but you rush down anything the enemy has on the board, and your followers get turned into 5/5s at the end of your turn so any damage they take while you're rushing is effectively healed.

I'd say keep them around if you don't have a good dragon deck.
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>>170708863
Aina's damage bonus is a Fanfare, you can't use Urd on her too, unless you really need that 1 damage.
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>>170708106
I sometimes get intimidated when people greet me. Don't be like that man
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>>170708862

I agree that this card isn't good enough to work in Ramp and not an incredible card period, but I think people are underrating the consistency of turn 6 storm cards this will give Face Dragon.

Also, Aina is a cutie.
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>>170708863
You don't ramp your face dragon?
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>>170708954
>deck focused on 2 - 3pp cards with 5pp being the highest
>ramping
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>>170708873
Gawain will probably enable his own deck with a lot of commanders. I'd easily see Gawain replaced by Amelia, I don't see Jeno going anywhere, the card is too good. Luminous Mage instead of Alwida maybe. And if you still play with Cyclone Blade, you sub it for Support Fire, the card will be CSword's ghetto board clear.
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>>170708779
It's all followers so if the situation is really contrived, she'd potentially be a 10/5 with 9 other followers on board.

Probably impossible without complicit cooperation from the opponent, but it's possible.

She might work out if comboed with Roost, invite your opponent to dump their board, dump as well and throw out Aina to smash face.

But that would require your opponent wanting to play into Bahamut.
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>>170708814
Why do they think 1 damage AoE is relevant anymore?

All this does is kill your OWN bats if you have any.
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>>170709103
>It's all followers

Oh wow, I didn't realize that. I thought it was just allied followers.

This card is actually pretty solid.
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>>170708779
It's a 10/5 at best, her affects counts enemy followers too.
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>>170708814

Well at least blood is getting some pretty good cards this expansion. But yeah, this is not one of them.
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>>170708873
I'm on the same boat. I really want to make Support Cannon work.
As of now, with the current revelaed cards I'm thinking off
>2 Unica, 3 Veteran Lancer, 3 Maid Leader, 2 Swing
>2 Blitz, 3 Grimnir
>3 Gawain, 2 Jeno
>2 Aurelia, 2 Monika, 2 Support Cannon, 3 Albert
>2 Tsubaka, 2 Alwida
>3 Frontguard
>2 Fangblade
>2 Leonidas

Maybe put Luminous Mage instead of Alwida's, gotta see what is the other lego and silvers.
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please let me win!

57235
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Anyone want to concede a match for me?
27838
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>>170709232
>Maybe put Luminous Mage instead of Alwida's

>Dropping Alwidas from any sword deck
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>>170709268
trade with >>170709234
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>>170709082
if you want you can run the doragon-san lady though
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>>170709234
>arisa with tits

DELET
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>>170709232
No Luminous Mage?

Also, it doesn't seem like you have draw outside the Maids and no Uriel so those cannons might not show up a lot.
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>>170708873
No officers sans maid, 2-3pp removal, commanders only, 3 cannons. Final destination.
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Nepless shadow > Nep shadow.
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>>170708939
I don't know if she's really bad. They printed this new megalorca card that spawns 2 bodies, a 3/3 worth of stats for 3. In aggro vs aggro, it isn't that rare to have 2-3 followers on both sides. Imagine a board with 3 followers on both sides, that's a 7/5, you evolve her, that's a 9/5. It's really scary, and may force your opponent to trade.

Now that I think about it, Aina is the equivalent of Shadow Reaper for an Aggro Dragon. If you don't trade, she's gonna nuke your ass. The card might be really good, if and only if Aggro Dragon becomes a deck.
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Does anyone besides DShift have a good way to pull off Flame and Glass? Back in the day I liked using Flame on its own in aggro decks cause it's such tempting removal bait, and evolving it to trade has some burn, but I've never even tried to get the combo to work in Removalverse.

Only thing I can think of to keep them safe is Shadowed Assassin. Maybe Liza + ward?
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me no trade, me evolve albert, me go face
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>>170709234
thank you!
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>>170708937
>I greet everyone I battle

How is it intimidating to be nice and not a dickbag.
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Kill me
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>Huge streaks of crap from standard packs
>8 mil dl RoB packs
>Open an animated albert and the last 2/3 of wolves in just 5 fucking packs
>Butt ton of golds
>Still 0 dragoon, eido, matriach, baha
Fucking fuck me

>>170700725
I get that they want you to sync him with like, stolen life then use gabriel or fuck knows what but even as a defensive card he's just gonna eat it to removal/evo trades so, so what. I swear it's like they don't know what to do with blood.
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>>170708259
Just revelation, bro.
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>>170709497
>getting animated cards for a craft you dont play

S U F F E R I N G
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>>170708547
>ha ha, you have no memes left, dragon mage, my superior bat/zombie/sword board flood will crush you into fine paste
>what do you mean, take 8?
This will be the next Albert people will be crying about.
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>>170701375
t4 emissary lightning behemoth
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>>170709540
Those should be emmylous and oglers instead of 7 darias.
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>>170701928
ITS SO CUTE
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>>170701928
Bats tempo in 3 months c-comrade... ;_;
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First he greets me before deploying quick blader, then he tries to waste my team on defeat.
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>Start first
>Against sword
>It's aggro sword but with a Cyclone Blade thrown in
>Play like garbage but I lose because his Jenos saved his evos and I drew bad

This is just, fuck, man. I wish this game had a Replace system like Duelyst. This is just banal.
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>>170709562
Seacraft tempo has a good chance of being tier 2 in TotG. Use Grea, Neptune, saha-reina, and olivia to power mususshu and demonic simalacrums

>>170709604
It's gonna average out as a forte they can actually attack
>>
I came into the game a week or two before the launch of RoB, but did DE come out the same amount of time prior to that?

It feels like RoB is still the "new" expansion to me, are they really going to keep adding them this rapidly?
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>>170708814
I swear they make bad cards specifically for you to vial because they know will never see play, they just do it to fill out the packs.
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>when your opponents greets you only because they have the favorable matchup

I hate these fucking nips so much.
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>>170709754
xpak every 3 months which is great cause the staleness is hitting hard.
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>>170709754
Yes. Every 3 months we get an expansion, until they change their minds.
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>>170709793
What if they are actually being polite?
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>>170709754
DE came out at around the end of September. They did say they were planning to add new content to the game every 3 months but I don't know for how long they're going to keep this pace.
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>Didn't win on turn 5
>too slow
>Didn't win on turn 7
>What are you doing? You are wasting time of our honorable customers, have cards that'll all but guarantee a win on turn 9
Honestly, I think that pure multiplayer focus that forces the devs to compress the game in 5-7 turns is the reason SV is not as good as it could be.
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>>170709742
>Replace system
Explain?
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>>170709786
>tfw even cannot be attacked, cannot be damaged, or cannot be targetted save combo cards that are for doing something beyond the turn they were played
>>
Friendly reminder to rope every d-shift player
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>>170709853
>Implying adding more hit face cards is hard
Not a single new keyword in ToG
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>>170709853
>>170709841
>>170709804
I guess Shadowverse is growing really quickly right now judging from the 7-8m downloads events so they want to keep up with it the way Pokemon Go failed to.

I'm not super familiar with card games, but I guess you don't really have a problem with new expansions flooding the game, right? More is better?
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>>170709881
Once a turn you can replace one card in your hand with another random card in your deck.

So if you have a bad hand you're not doomed to it, you can say, "This is the card I will use the least", throw it back inside your deck, and draw a different one.
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>tfw i say greet emote if i drew bricking or know this match isnt on my favor to tip them off
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>>170709456
Who are you quoting? Not greeting someone is not the same as being a dick.
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>>170709990
I think even mtg does a set every 3 months now. Gotta keep up with adhd players.
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>>170709992
That seems like some ridiculous tutoring. For all intents and purposes, you get two draws per turn. Rune would be insane.
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>>170709990
I think the game needs more cards to allow more archetypes per craft, so I don't mind the pace. Seeing every control deck play Satan/Bahamut is boring, I'm glad to see unique control wincons like Aegis/Belphegor/Baphomet.
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>>170708937
>>170709456
>>170710014
People who greet you are usually the biggest bm shitters. They pretend to be nice at the start, then start to rope before their finishing move. Never greet anyone, in that way your opponent can see if you have emotes on.
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>>170710035
Well, it doesn't have cards that powerful. Imagine if dim shift just gave you 5 mana back.
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>>170710102
>>170709903
what does 'rope' mean?
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>>170710085
>belphegor and baphomet are wincon

???
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>>170709992
This thing?
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>>170710156
Bloody Mary/Azazel shenanigans.
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>>170709415
She'll actually really be strong for an Aggro matchup, but Dragon doesn't slug it out fast quite as early as Sword, Blood, or Shadow.

Sword at turns 5+ starts dropping singular evolved Alberts into the face or Alvida which also conveniently drops a ward.

Shadow finishing with Howl leaves the board bereft of followers though it's usually their finisher. Though they'll gladly use them earlier if they have more Howls or Resentment in hand.

I can see it working out well against Blood if you somehow survive to T6 and they're in lethal range, but if they're not then they're probably going to finish you off by the next turn unless you knocked them down to 2 to prevent Claw, Wolf, or Demonic Storm reach.

People already play taking into account Forte reach and it'd take 4 followers to get Aina to the same damage so I don't see it being meta changing.

The really bad thing about Aina is that she's fuckawful in control matchups. They keep empty boards, have plenty enough answers to deal with all of Dragon's can't be attacked followers, and prep wards or healing late game. On an empty board she's a 1/5 and that's where control likes to keep it. Alternatively they might sneak in a ward or two, but then she can't attack face.
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>>170710102
>lose to someone that was courteous and greeted you
>F...f..fucking shitter troll

What is this autism?
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>>170710085
Definitely. Honestly, I think Rune is one of the better examples of what other crafts should be like. Earthrite vs Conjuring vs Tempo Daria vs Dshift is incredible flexibility within the same class that they should all have.

You shouldn't just have aggro/control for each leader, it's boring to only choose between stalling for Satan or Unga Bunga.
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>>170710143
''Roping'' is when you are letting the timer run down instead of ending the turn on your own.
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Other than Aggro Sword, what can I make? I realize my card options pretty much limit me to Sword, but face is not the place I want to be right now.
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>>170710280
You mean like spamming the finisher emote to force a concede instead of finishing them yourself?

I love doing that, its especially best when they wont concede and make you finish them, you can taste the salt.
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>>170710157
Yes except it's every turn and every one can do it.
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>>170710307
Uh. Control sword.

That's the only deck you should be playing with that collection in fact.
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>>170710235
Ok now you got enemy at 10,how do you finish off that same turn?
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>>170710395
Albert, obv.
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>Vlad is actually "Vlad Dracula" in nip
>probably shortened his name because he sucks major ass

Heh.
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Shadow is my favourite craft but in ranked I solely play sword and blood aggro because they are alot faster and win very consistently, does this make me a shitter?
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>>170710360
Twitch chat - the post
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>>170710307
100% control sword.
You got everything needed there.
>3 Aurelia, 3 Albert, Bahamut
Just get 1 more Amelia or put Floral in the deck and you are set to go.
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>>170710279
They've been trying to make midrange Vampire a thing with ToG it seems. I think they tried a little with RoB but there just aren't enough good cards for it. Every other class can basically play midrange already along with aggro or control, even if some of the midrange decks are mediocre.
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>>170710279
Yes, Rune's diversity is something any craft should have, meta or not.

Forest in particular needs a lot of help, because even if the craft as a whole is really powerful, its gameplay doesn't differ much, it's all about Roach. Which is a shame since the craft is really interesting to expand on. It isn't bland as fuck like Sword, they can go wild, as long as they don't enable crazy shit with Roach again. I'm expecting a good control wincon for Forest, something that may or may not synergize with Wolf.
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>>170710360
you can imagine things

a lot of people have emotes turned off and you can emote like a monkey they will not even see it
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>>170710307
Is there a reason you bought 3 Sword decks then suddenly decided you didn't want to sword anymore?

All the cheapest decks to make are aggro decks so you're looking into a bunch of crafting if you want something else.

The cheapest non-aggressive options are probably Nep, DShift, and Seraph. But those all require a playset of a legendary you don't have any.

Pure Elana would probably be cheapest, but it's fallen out of the meta hard.
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>>170710021
Meta gets stale. There's only so much headroom to tweak the decks you like

>>170709990
They're doing a fast release cycle because it helps them playtest design decisions and flesh out deck archetypes to get towards the goal of about 40 distinct playable decks with a wide tech pool for a rich and diverse meta if you can tune out the bandwagon gypsies and tryhards shitting up the game. People are already pretty settled in with their decks, could you really imagine 4 more months of RoB? Instead we're already getting heaps of speculation and all kinds of goodness is gonna gush out in april.That keeps the playerbase engaged.

>>170709903
Or just be a good sport instead of antagonizing someone into being a petty bitter cunt just like you.
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>>170710558
The only people that never greet me are runecraft shitters

>>170710495
>uses twitch
>knows what goes on in twitch chats
Taste the salt indeed.
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>>170710650
You don't need to experience the holocaust to know it was bad
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KHAWY IS FUCKING BS IN T2
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>>170710307
>1 Garuda
Why not try Storm Haven? The deck is cheap besides Garuda and the other 6-drops available.
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>>170710703
No shit
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>>170710703
I punch through 1 Khawy and the son of a bitch used 2 more.
Fuck me.
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>>170710703
One time I drafted 3 khawy's and 3 rise of the deads
I beat a swordguy with it even after he popped his leonidas
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>>170710679
>Muh 6 billion banished last words
Winning the Nexus war was a mistake.
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>>170710679
jew propaganda

6 mln poles were killed by nazi, literally who cares

6 mln jews were killed by nazi - such a great tragedy for the whole world
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>>170710703
You mean in general? Yeah. Complete game turnaround unless you have a banish. But who the fuck has a banish?

Besides Dirt, Haven, and the one odin you keep in your control deck in case you go up against a seraph.
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>>170710279
I would like to see Earthrune get more powerful as I have a huge alchemist fetish that makes me want to play one in every game that offers it. Being T1 or even just viable would be lovely. But I agree that Rune is an example of the level of flexibility I'd like to see. Would also like to see a Dragon control deck, I like how dragon seems to have alot of unattackable creatures so I get the impression they would fit in nicely as a finisher. Maybe some card that kills warded creatures.
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>>170710307
2 wyvern cavalier and 2 breath of the salamander and you could maybe get a ramp dragon list going.
t7 fafnir/baha after you bait some removal would be neat.
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>finally come across Phoenix Roost meme after not seeing one for ages
>hand is 4 fairies, 2 fairy circle and 2 nature's guidance
Wasn't even mad, the Dragoon/Dragonewt OTK that came next turn was glorious.
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I got 3500 golds but I'm a new player, should I spend it now or wait for ToG to come out
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>>170710796
>>>/pol/
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>>170710808
I think dirt rune is viable right now. If I had to guess, it'd be tier 2 or tier 3. With all the aggro running around right now, it's a good deck to run.
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>>170710770
BASED khawy
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>>170710808
earth rune is a huge cancer already
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>>170710854
it is not politics, it is history
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>>170710808
Cannot be attacked are easily killed due to their low hp by design
I imagine JO-discard would be the control deck. Once you get 2 pendants out you hit them pretty hard with fanfare/cantrips to keep them off the board while healing back up with nest/lucifer/fervor

>>170710837
Spend it now you got dickall. You ought to buy RoB and DE packs while your arena tickets and occasional login/daily gets you some standard. Once yo uget your feet under you, buy packs that have cards you want it's not a big deal.
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>>170710796
If polish owned all the money in the world and were super vocal about their PTSD from their relatives being killed or put in internment camps, the media would probably be made to care too.
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>>170710878

>>170710893
Any lists?
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>>170710808
Dirt's already my favorite deck.

Seriously it's the only one where I feel like there's an answer for just about everything. Plenty of draw, removal, banish, EVERYTHING YOU NEED. And it generates so many different threats that no one's removal can keep up. Remi into Goblinmount into Pascale into Taboo into Baha with wards sprinkled all around.

Wish it wasn't so hated.
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You all said AA1-3 was going to be hell, but this is fucking easy. Literally farming masters for days, lose 70 and win 150 almost every game.
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>>170711127
Dirt Rune is my favorite SV deck.

Too bad it gets raped in ranked.
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>>170711127
>Has answer to everything
>Gets to use cancer such as Levi, PR and Petrify
You deserve all the hate.
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>>170711127
>Wish it wasn't so hated.
Maybe if you stop removing my shit I wouldn't hate you so much.
Dirt Rune is gonna be full blown cancer and even worse than Hag, mark my words.
They have the most broken removals in this entire game.
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>>170711114
It's like Control Blood, anyone has his own Dirt rune list.
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Bahamut is a terrible card that ruins the meta.

Discuss.
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>>170711127
Thats how control decks should be

Instead we got
>Just spend 50k vials bro
>Just tech Odin in every deck bro
>Just autolose to nep and dshift bro
>All of that just to get 55% winrate against Dorothy and some of the tier50 decks
Really mounts my demon.
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Cat is live on Openrec.
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>>170711242
ur mom is terrible and ruin the meta, but you don't see me complaining about that.
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>>170711242
Dshift doesn't allow Bahamut to dominate, end of discussion
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>>170711242
Who lives until turn 10?
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>>170711272
You still autolose to dick shift as dirtrune, bro.
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>>170711127
>>170711182
Lists? I don't have a clue how to play it

How would I go abotu a budget dirt?

>>170711192
What deck(s) are your main?


>>170711208
>Play a wyrm spire
>Gets hit with petrify
O-Okay....
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>>170707243
>if anyone can climb even while losing
If you even maintain a 50/50 WL ratio you'll eventually hit masters.
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>>170711242
I'm glad we have Bahamut so Elenahags and Dirtcuck can never see the light of day.
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>>170711242
Pretty much. It ruins any amulet or board flood deck and it's often part of a deck that uses wards/removals/heals to basically turn it into solitaire.
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>it's another "the opponent topdecks the card that needed to win" episode
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>>170711361
elana is coming back next expansion

aegis will cuck bahamut hard
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>>170711242
Because it's so valuable in control decks that it's ubiquitous and doesn't allow for much variation? Maybe. But it's the signature card of Cygames in general so it should be of core importance. And yes, you should PROBABLY expect the possibility of a board wipe if it's turn 10 and your opponent has had it sitting in their deck taking up space the whole time and you STILL couldn't beat them in time.
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>>170711331
>What deck(s) are your main?
I play Dragon, so meme decks.
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>>170696883
>silver bullet no one will ever use because shadowverse is just about accepting your autolosses and moving on
Wouldn't even surprise me
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>>170711331
Know what's worse?
>play Dire Bond
>Petrify, Evolve, Piercing Rune
Amazing negative value play bro
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>>170711314
Non-ungas?

>budget dirt
You need either Pascales or Satans for ranked (and even then...)
For unranked you can use meme wincons like Call of Cock.
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>>170711412
Yeah drawing cards in this card game needs to be nerfed.
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>>170696947
>literally a turn 7 bellringer
If you think egg is powerful, you must think unica hard-counters aggro instantly
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>>170711242
Just Bahamut it bro
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>Seraph vs cBlood
>Turn 12 I finally get a Seraph through my Prism Priestess
>he's just sitting there with 5 cards in his hand, neither of us have board presence, I only have a Prism Priestess on the board
>he completely passes his T13
>I play my Seraph on my T13
>expecting him to Odin it since he's been sitting on 5 cards for a while and literally passed a turn, probably waiting for me to play Seraph
>he plays Bahamut
>I win next turn because he gave me a free countdown
MADLAD
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>>170711398
>It ruins any amulet or board flood deck
I sure as fuck do not want any flood or amulet deck to be meta. Had enough of Sword and Elena back in DE.
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>>170709793
Are you one of those people that thinks "microaggressions" are a real thing?
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>>170711542
You enjoy removalverse? I sure don't.
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>>170711542
That's not correct anyway. Amulet decks are basically divided between Haven countdown (which are HELPED by Bahamut and hard-counter him), and everything else. Other amulet decks are basically mid-range: they sacrifice the first few turns to do nothing, then explode and kill you long before turn 10. If an amulet deck is getting countered by Bahamut, it's just not performing its role correctly.
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>>170711154
deck list?
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>>170711361
If you have time to pull Bahamut then the haven player has time to pull seraph to laugh at Bahamut.

Dirt rune is just straight fucked though.
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>>170711574
Dude, Elena is an extremely oppressive, snowball card. And it was extremely uninteractive back in DE, there was no way to keep it in check.
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>>170711690
Standard aggro
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>>170711542
>Hate's wyrm spire
O-Okay...
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>>170711743
>all the best decks in the game are dirt cheap
I hate CCG's for this reason, there's zero reason to ever have a collection
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>>170711743
thanks
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>>170711574
This still need more removal desu
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>>170711693
>Seraph in Elena
That's like asking to be fucked in the butt. Also any deck that run Bahamut probably also run Odin.
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>>170711639
I honestly think the greatest thing ever seeing new players try to bahamut Havencraft countdown amulets. Not realizing that that will just cause the effects to go off.
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WHO PLAYS DARIA WITH THREE CARDS LEFT


WHAT'S THE POINT
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>>170711703
I was referring to board flood decks with removalverse (think Tempo Forest). Not being able to setup a board for 1 turn unless you have Liza or some other bullshit is really boring. Elana is cancer as fuck, I agree.
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>>170711771
Seraph Elena was a top tier deck in DE, neither are particularly good now so you can't pull the "but I was talking about this meta" card
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>>170711639
>Other amulet decks are basically mid-range: they sacrifice the first few turns to do nothing
The main amulet decks are Elena and PtP, both of which can be kept in control by Bahamut.
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>>170711767
>aggro shadow
>best
This pile of cards is nowhere near being the best.
>>170711768
Sure, no problem.
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>>170711320
True that, in fact other control decks can get a bit more chances by using storm followers, but it seems like only sword can use those without hurting other matchups.
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>>170711806

HONORABURU SUDOKU
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Play JO Dragon.
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>>170711771
elana seraph is arguably the best way to play elana and has a bit better winrate than ordinary seraph
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>>170711331
For Dirt Rune you've really gotta figure out what you need yourself, everyone has a different comfort level. I'd say it's mandatory to have 3x Red hot, Creation, and Scrap at least for sigils, then if you want you can use Price or the Guardian Golem one. I might say that 2x Calamitous is a requirement, but past that you have a lot of freedom to utilize whatever threats you want in there.

Remi and Rami is incredible value on turn 4, and Professor of Taboos is my favorite card in the game. Pascale is icing on the cake, but honestly Dirt is pretty cheap, vial-wise since Pascale and Satan/Bahamut are really the only "core" legendaries.

But like I said, it's up to you to figure out what you like to play in there, so get out there and COMMENCE EXPERIMENT.
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>>170711743
How's Skelly Knight working in this ping heavy meta? I can't imagine him and the token living till turn 4 to buff your Reaper.
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>want to try Tempo Forest
>at some point for some reason I vialed my Lizas and a Cynthia
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>170711818
>>170711880
I don't play that shit ever, but the few times I faced Seraph Elena I always won because they wasted a whole turn 8 and weren't able to activate Seraph on turn 9.
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>>170711806
Flashy suicide
Same as using dire bond instead of hitting "Quit"
>>170711848
Banner kills you mid-range, Storm Haven kills you mid-range (and would be helped by Bahamut, but that doesn't matter since they never get to turn 10)
Sure they are meme decks, but so is PtP and Elena in the current meta
Bottom line, Bahamut doesn't meaningfully counter any amulet decks, it's rather the other way around, you will struggle to play Bahamut in a way that he doesn't help an amulet deck
If they are using non-countdown amulets they want to kill you before 10, and if they are using countdown amulets Bahamut helps them
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>>170711806
WELL FUCK YOU I HAVE DARIA

BETCHA HAVEN'T SEEN THAT BEFORE
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>>170711767
>aggro shadow
>best
you high nigga?
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>>170710879
Foul Temptest is shit
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Hey, just making sure: I should definitely keep my account with Otohime, White Wolf, Eidolon, Odin and 2x Daria right? I haven't linked it to my Steam yet. Also people kept saying Eidolon was a meme so would it be safe to dust/vial him?
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>>170712020
It was more a commentary on aggro in general. You can throw any pile of shitty aggro cards together and shoot up to masters.
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>>170711956
Seraph is intended to provide a win con against decks you can't burst down, you're not supposed to use it when you're getting hammered yourself
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>>170711941
Pretty alright, he's mainly just a card to fill your turn 3 curve, with high upsides when he gets to survive one turn for an evolve or as Reaper fuel. Sometimes your opponent is forced into trading incredibly awkwardly into it if they can't ping it. I like it a lot overall, but it doesn't carry the deck by itself, you could take it out if you feel like it gets pinged off too often.
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>>170712059
Eidolon is hard to pull but i won't vial something expensive with new expansion.

even otohime maybe is getting back
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>>170700743
What is Hexproof and indestructible. It's just there's a lot more board -X/-X and exile effects around so it's more removable.
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Just conceded with lethal on board and made a control sword get to AA0, feelsgoodman
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>>170712059
Only dust legendaries if there's something specific you're trying to create. Eidolon is one of the biggest jokes around right now, but it might become useful later. Which is why I'm keeping my 3 animated ones.

But yeah, that sounds like a pretty good starter roll, since 5/6 legendaries are good right now. Plenty of people will tell you shit like "pfft reroll until you have 11 meta legos" but fuck that, you've got a good start, time to play the game.
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>>170711127
If only it had a decent wincon. Deck has everything it needs to be complete cancer, tons of removal, wards and card advantage but it can't do much with it.
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>>170711901
>scrap
i still don't get why people play this card. it feels like a wasted slot to me. you usually can't trade with it.
it gives you the illusion of "stalling", but really you just used a card that does pretty much nothing. it's just a -1.
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What's the point of max 3 emotes? If you want to mute you can mute, I like to spam emotes and this trigger my autism
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>>170712185
It's funny how satan isn't even a decent wincon anymore (although I think he could become insane if they ever implemented broad spectrum ways to reduce the cost of those cards/PP beyond max, etc)
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>>170711945
>vialing Liza

You disgust me
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>>170711956
That's a pretty big error on their end. One should only pull that card out if you have Themis or enough card draws to have good odds of drawing into what you need.
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>people roping in unranked
Why?
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>>170712185
Honestly if you're holding board control the whole time you kind of just get victory handed to you. A pascaled board of zombies and wards isn't an awful wincon.

Plus, Baha/Satan is usually considered a wincon if you really need something hard, but honestly I don't play them in my deck. You don't need an OTK to achieve victory.
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>>170712148
>>170712178

Okay, I'll just hold onto him in case he becomes a meta god sometime in the future. I'm still reading all my cards and learning their mechanics so I'm in no real rush to destroy anything that might be useful later.

Now in the other thread some folks said I can craft a third Daria and make a tempo rune deck.. would that be a good idea once I'm done getting all the newbie achievement gold rewards?
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>>170712185
it is already cancer
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>>170711242
Oh shut up you tart. I can count the number of times i've seen a Bahamut actually live more than a turn on one hand.
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>>170712283
stop playing D-shift that's why
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How do I improve this?

Adding Odins maybe? Olivia seems excessive but dem evos...
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Does /svg/ still think 9/14 worth of stats split up into 5 bodies on turn 6 is useless?
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>>170711941
He works pretty nicely really. He only needs to survive a round early on to lead to a shadow reaper. Into a second 2 cost minion.
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>>170712198
It's a 1 mana earth sigil that keeps your health safe from quickbladers and bats and shit. Plus there are plenty of nice times where people have completely ignored them and when you're pascaling a board you can evolve them to get a 4/8 ward in addition to everything else.

No one's worthless.
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>>170712360
*evolves lion*
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>>170712341
I'm playing blood with a pile of neutral cards
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>>170712358
Take out the alberts. He's slowing down your tempo and bricking your hand.
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>>170712309
Play the deck with 2 Darias first. It's best and ideal with 3, but with the expansion coming soon, I don't think it's worth crafting a third unless you enjoy the deck. The deck might become non-meta, who knows.
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>>170712360
>not 9/11

japs had one job...
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>>170712358
I mean it's not terrible if you just want a more mid-rangey control
Odin is a heavy control pick, if you don't like games going late he isn't necessary
If you're going to go that route you probably want to also go the standard 1 Bahamut and so on
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>midsword vs control sword
>nip was controlevo a avant blader and a 1/1 ward to slam into my aurelia, dropped Olivia as well
What the fuck
>proceed to alberto his face
>the usual salty nip disconnect

Do you have the right to be salty if you made a poor deck?
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>>170712360
themis and laugh at you
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>>170712358
Definitely Odins. You're a slow deck that has no way to beat Seraph/Mr. Bones who stabilize over 10 health.
Also Quickbladers shouldn't be here, too low impact.
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>>170712392
>>170712476
>drops it again
:^)
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>>170712501
*themis*
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>>170712439
Alright I'll make do with the two for now. Thanks so much for the help!
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>>170712439
daria is too good to get useless

at the very worst she will be played with d-shift
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>>170712358
Drop your Quickbladers if you're playing control. Also 3x cyclone is overkill, 2, or even 1 is better.

Add Olivia and Hamsa.
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>>170712212
They hate autistic trannies and wanted to stop them from pretending to be little girls by spamming emotes like faggots
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>>170712392
Just reading this makes me feel euphoric. Those moments when aggro players don't play around Lion and wipe their hand out filling the board.

It is truly ecstasy.
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>>170712475
>you didn't make a deck that revolves around face smashing entirely
>HAHA SHIT DECK
I wish Cygames would fix this awful meta so bad players would go away, but my guess is it's only going to get worse from here
A year from now we'll have players going "HAHA WHAT AN IDIOT HIS DECK'S WINCON ISN'T ON TURN 2"
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>>170712360
That depends if those bodies are free or require some shitty conition like shadows or vengeance. What card?
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Attendant of Night or Skeleton Knight in Reaper?
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Fuck this. The only legendaries I have 3 of are Olivia and Daria.

And I'm not playing Tempo Daria.
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>>170712584
aotw
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>>170712539
Aggro decks can't "play around" lion. Stall haven hard counters genuine aggro. If they don't play creatures they'll just be even more in the hole. Being proud of beating aggro as Haven is like D Shift players gloating about smashing control.
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>>170712542
Why would you even run Avant in control?
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>>170712470
>1 Bahamut
Yeah, about drawing him ever...
(I could make one with vials, but expac is coming and I don't have that many.)

>>170712481
A good quickmemer or two are a godsend about slower start decks, though.
Maybe I could dump the meidos?
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>>170712530
But I AM a little 2D girl
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I'm a relatively new player, have been playing for a 3 weeks or so with a makeshift aggro sword deck and doing arena.
Mostly interested in making a blood or dragon deck, don't really care about them being the bottom bitch classes.
What's the best way to spend a bit of cash?
Also should I save my 8k or so rupies all for TotG?
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>>170712584
Attendant, skeleton is trash.
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>>170712626
To draw Tsubakis/wards with it.
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>>170712584
Skeleton Knight, Reaper requires too much setup.
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New leaders when? Or even just knew outfits for the current leaders. I'd like Erica to look less like a slutty French maid.
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>>170712661
First of all, whatever you do, DON'T PLAY DRAGON.
Second of all, blood is a little more budget minded, but if you play dragon you're gonna need a LOT of vials worth of old cards. So just be aware of that. If you have everything you already want for the foreseeable future, save rupees for ToG obviously. If you don't, get cards you need. Pretty simple.
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>>170712358
Pic related, my CSword.

-3x Cyclone Blade is too much.
-2x Tsubaki is standard, but 1x is ok too
-Cut the DoD, you have Fangblade and Tsubaki to handle threats, it's not needed, trust me
-3x Aurelia
-More Amelias
-Cut the Quickblader and even Mentor
-Olivia is too slow for CSword, don't bother
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>>170712678
Wouldn't it be better running goblinmount for 5 drop?
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Most fun T2 deck I had in a while, 2 memes in the sky
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>>170712728
New leaders have already been announced
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>>170712614
>>170712669
>>170712704
Th-thanks...
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>>170712728
Oh boy, I'm excited for the paid SFV leaders.
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>>170712530
but what if those are manly emotes?

like "think, rowen, think"
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>>170712748
No Odin?
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>>170712772
We're getting Street Fighter leaders? I don't know how I feel about that. Who would even fit some of the current crafts?
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>>170712772
>paid leaders
>they are ugly street fighter characters that will stick out like a sore thumb
Why does Cygames mock us like this?
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>>170694436

Why you're using my boat wife to promote the general?
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>>170712772
I want my Juri but I don't want to spend real cash on it ;_;
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>>170712772
>>170712728
>>170712817
Best girl is coming very soon
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>>170712520
You never know what can happen in a card game anon. Changing Piercing Rune to 2 completely changed the powerlevel of the deck. Daria isn't that much of a problem anymore nowadays.
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>>170712748
>-Olivia is too slow for CSword, don't bother
What? If you don't play CSword until at least T9 you're playing midsword.

At worst Olivia is a 6/6 rush that grants you two evolution points, and she allows you to be more liberal with evolves in the midgame so you don't need to "save" them for albert. She's fucking core.
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Oh yeah, I forgot the best part. They announced street fighter leaders for every craft EXCEPT dragon.
Cygames, you have to stop. This level of bullying is too much even for us masochists.
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>>170712661
>don't really care about them being the bottom bitch classes.
you probably should since using them in higher ranks is difficult even if you fully invest in them. but then again you have sword to fall back on so you're probably fine.

if you want to spend cash, spend it on the prebuilds. they have good value.
yes, save up for tempest.
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>>170712617
If you see Haven hitting turn 5 I would suggest not dropping 4+ followers with 2 or less defense on the board at once personally.

Once Haven hits the 5-6 range that is suicide unless one has the luck of the gods.
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>>170712846
*boat slut
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do you think it should be pretty hard to kiss with imperial dragoon, i mean that beak on his helmet surely would make it inconvenient

>>170712846
wtf is "boat wife"
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>>170712748
I don't have extra leggos except for Otomeme, sadly.

Sell me on Amelia, I dropped her from the deck after a while.
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I swear I read on here that they were introducing a Swordcraft card in the next expansion that would reduce the cost of commanders over a certain cost. I know Gawain does a blanket reduction, but I thought there was one specifically for the 6-7+ cost commanders.

>>170712854
Please be swordcraft.
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>>170712893
Dragon is Ryu senpai, all the leaders have been announced.
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What does wither do?
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>>170712918
Yes, but as aggro you autolose if you surrender that amount of turns anyway. They're just going to get a board of strong creatures out, and since it's Haven there will be lots of wards. Sitting there doing nothing is even worse than getting lion'd. Either way you're fucked, but passively suiciding is no better.
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>>170712865
Oh come on everyone has a way to deal with Daria spam nowadays, don't be so butthurt. Changing PR to 2 was just the subtlety it needed to not be GROSSLY overpowered.

But Levi is definitely a legendary card.
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Assuming Haven gets a bunch more efficient healing and removal(and they will), Aegis is going to be a real threat. Aggro won't be able to punch through Temple Defenders and Cuckgel/ALS, Control can't stop it with Odin.
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>>170712958
Damage dealt to a creature by a source with wither isn’t marked on that creature. Rather, it causes that many -1/-1 counters to be put on that creature.
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>>170712952
Link?
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>>170712893
>>170712936
>Cammy (Forestcraft)
>Chun-Li (Swordcraft)
>Juri (Runecraft)
>Ryu (Dragoncraft)
>M. Bison (Shadowcraft)
>Vega (Bloodcraft)
>Karin (Havencraft)
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>>170712931
favorite card aesthetically
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blood will get the most sexy leader as usual

>>170712991
>wanting the game to be p2w

rarity =/= card quality
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>>170712952
>>170713052
Oh weird, my bad. The article I saw about it listed every craft but dragon.
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>>170713012
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>>170712813
Odin is useful against Seraph and Nephthys, for Mordecai/Khawy. As a CSword, you're very unfavored against Nephthys, Odin may help you but not much since you don't have much card draw. Against Seraph, you're supposed to be very aggressive, you have the Storm cards to pressure them and threaten lethal if they play Seraph. Odin is a safer gameplan and a good card for those match-ups, but it's a brick in any other match-up. Against Bahamut spam, you have Tsubaki and Fangblade, you don't need Odin.
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>>170713062
>p2w
>in a game where they give you dozens of legendaries just for starting out
Come on man, price isn't a consideration in Giveawayverse
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>mfw trying to get the last ten wins to Masters

I want to curl up and cry.
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>>170713082
that's Zelda -_-
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>>170713012
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>>170713062
Good point, but I more meant that he's NOT overpowered if he was a legendary, but he would still be in the game, so what's the difference if he's cheaper? Everyone would still craft 3 of him, and he would be pretty even with other mid to high tier legos.
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Newb anon again. Should I get the first-timer crystal pack and if so, would it be better to buy a prebuilt deck or just buy packs for 10-12 days? Or both? I believe I read that the first pack you buy each day is half off.
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>>170713062
>rarity =/= card quality
Except it is, but that doesn't mean it's p2w since you can get every card by crafting them without spending any money in the game. Don't just throw out the term p2w for anything that's better than something else.
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>>170712991
I'm not butthurt, in fact I think all the complaining about Daria is undeserved since the nerf. Rune dropped a lot of playrate since the nerf, and it's certainly not DShift or Dirt Rune that played less. The deck is fine.

Sure the deck can still nutdraw you hard, but a nutdraw is very powerful for any aggressive deck. Shit happens. At least I get to keep some followers after T4 balanced old man hits, unlike before. And it's all that matters.
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>>170713000
Good. Fuck shadow.
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>Rune goes second
>spends all 3 evolves on 3 Levis
But Piercing Rune was the clear issue.
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>>170713139
there there
you can curl up, cry and then win
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>>170713278
A card can be broken or overpowered without the deck it's in being better than everything else
I know this is a hard concept to grasp for some people, but it's true
Daria is a broken card if you look at it in isolation, "it no longer beats everything in the meta" is not an argument about the card's balance, it's just a statistical argument that Rune may be more balanced now than before
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>>170704890
Blood legos are always shit
They'll get amazing golds, just you wait
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>>170713052
>M. Bison (Shadowcraft)
ARIGATO CYGAMES-SENSEI

>Chun-Li (Swordcraft)

MUH DICK
MY DICK
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Anyone have that craiglist JO dragon image?
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>>170713269
The prebuild is definatily better since they give keycards.

just don't buy havencraft one and sword nowadays is really weake too.
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>>170713269
If you want some of the legos that are on the prebuilt pack it's better to buy it otherwise you will regret it on the future unless you are a luckshitter that pulls 2 legos from each pack
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>>170713378
Soul Dominator is really good.
Belphegor is great if you know how to use it.
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>>170713052
Source?
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What is it about Dragon that attracts this kind of people?
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Sword-Sword-Heaven-Heaven-Dragon-Sword-Heaven-Sword-Heaven. What the fuck, i want to duel someone else.
>>170712918
>If you see Haven hitting turn 5 I would suggest not dropping 4+ followers with 2 or less defense on the board at once personally.
/svg/ advices for aggro decks, everyone.
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>>170713483
Sandbaggers? Fuck if I know.
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>>170713483
What kind of people?
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>>170713312
Man the deck is fucking shit now. Stop crying already.
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>>170713449
Source : I was here when it was announced, a flurry of official Twitter posts and shit. No spoonfeeding, look it up.
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>>170713329
I want to win. But then they drop an on-curve Seraph on turn 8 and have the full combo next turn...

And this deck is GOOD against Seraph too. I just bricked... five games in a row... starting first...

A bloo bloo.... a bloo bloo bloo....
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>>170713483
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>>170713449
https://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/specrel/www/
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>>170713269
Depends on what you want to be playing.
If you are only missing a couple cards to make a deck and they are part of the prebuilt then that's probably a better option. Avoid the Haven one at all costs.

If you just want to build up a collection then going with the daily deal (first pack purchased everyday with crystal) is the best option.

Overall the value depends on what you want to do.
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>>170713312
you should be crying about albert crybb.
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>>170713532
The deck is shit because they now need to wait another turn to spend 1PP on 3 burn damage if they want to clear your field with Piercing Rune?
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>>170713483
DELETE THIS
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>>170713562
If you bricked 5 times in a row fix your deck.
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>>170712935
Amelia is an anti-aggro card that will punish the opponent if he plays 3 or more followers. It's basically a T4 Aurelia. You evolve her behind Gelt and they have to get through a Ward and they're at the mercy of a T5 Cyclone Blade if they don't kill Amelia, a 5/6 (less health because she traded but y'know). She's a 4-pp card that spawns 2 bodies and contributes to the Ward city gameplan. She's a 4pp card that has a ton of stats when added with Gelt, doesn't require an evo for those stats unlike Floral, and impacts the board (summons a Ward).

I didn't think much of the card when RoB released so I can understand that you doubt her, but she's good.
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>>170713641
>he's never bricked 5 times in a row with a perfectly curved deck
Play more games
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>>170713641
This deck got me here from A2. It's consistent enough. I just got unlucky and that makes me sad.
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>>170713740
Take a break and stop tilting yourself.
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>play bahamut in T2
Now I win!
>Opponent plays his bahamut
I fucking hate this coinflip mode
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>>170713641
You could have a well built deck and brick 10 times in a row. RNG is real.
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Is dragon flute any good and should i hold onto elanas prayer(its animated)? I dont play dragoncraft but I might if it improves with xpansion. I have a seraph havencraft deck but im not sure theres room for elanas prayer in it and im not sure what other deck it would go in aside from stormhaven maybe? If i liquify them both i can make Odin who I dont have and still dont have after 60 or so packs, what do?
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>>170713785
That's what I'm doing now, I just...
I JUST NEED A SHOULDER TO CRY ON
HOLD ME ANON
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Can someone post their control sword decklist that has the standard olivia/bahamut/odin top end but also cyclone blade and early game stuff like Amelia? I asked for advice the other day about subbing stuff out, but I think it would be easier to see an overall decklist that uses cyclone blade and early game stuff like Blitz.
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>>170713825
Elana is a good card and there's a version of seraph that uses her.

flute= trash
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>>170712935
She's a passable value play both on turn 4 and 6 no matter if you go second or first.
Jeno just trades into some 2-3pp 3 power guy on turn 4.
Floral can't be played turn 4 when you go first, she's basically a 5 drop in that case.

Amelia's not very good card, but no better value 4 drop exists in sword currently.
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>>170713825
Flute will never be good
It's a designated Cuuuuuck BOOOOIS card
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>>170713882
>>170713934
Fuck you Flute Spire is fun as all getout.
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>>170713353
You can say the same thing about a lot of cards in SV. SV took the approach "everything is broken, so nothing is broken". And honestly, you don't want to play Daria outside of Tempo Rune. Dirt Rune can play her as a card draw/comeback mechanic and Daria DShift exists but it's brick city: the deck.
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>>170713810
>You could have a well built deck and brick 10 times in a row.
No
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>>170713969
>fun
>same as good
Anon...
Making omelettes is fun and all, but you have to dial back your meme power level when people want an honest assessment
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>>170712748
got to masters exclusively with this
odin is usefull in huge amount of matchups and only is a brick against aggro
olivia literally wins you games just by being there
cyclone blade literally wins you games too and only times it's not useful is when you draw two of em during first 5 turns

his list is more of midrange and yours is a midrange pretending to be control
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>>170714015
Yes.

Card games. Opponent with a shitty deck can still draw better than you and win in almost any situation. You're only IMPROVING your odds.
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>>170713796
>opponent drops bahamut
>plays voice, khawy, coc, dod, odin, ect
I always draft hard removals in T2 with Bahamut in mind and save them just for him if I could afford it. Satan, on the other hand, is a big fuck you and always ruins my supposedly perfect runs.
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>>170714015
Anon this is how card games work, you will always be a slave to draw rng.
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>>170713923
Oh forgot, also she's better than most 6 drops in sword.

Otomeme has no ward and asks to get faced.
Tsubaki can be only played for value turn 6 if they have a proper dude.
Alvida and Albert is good, play 3 of them already, need more 6 drops, that's where Amelia comes up.
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>>170714087
Well build decks don't brick that often. You are wrong and just shit at card games.
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>>170713825
There's actually a variant of Seraph that uses Elana, but you'll have to change your deck around a bit and add stuff like Monastic Holy Water and Rabbit Healers. Flute is trash, enjoy the 1k vials.
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>>170713832
>>170714035
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>>170714158
I don't like maid leaders, tell me why I'm dumb and stupid
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>>170713413
>>170713437
>>170713576

Would the Runecraft prebuilt would be useful at all? I see it has Levi and a lot of spells that's on the tempo rune list which I'm missing.
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>>170714125
Nigga if you build a deck well it won't brick that often. Its that fucking simple.
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>>170714140
>that often
So you'll admit they brick sometimes? And sometimes those sometimes line up in a row? Jesus fucking christ it's RNG to some extent no matter how much of an autist you are about deck comp.
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>>170714140
Five games is not "often" in the large scale of things. You measure a deck's chances against hundreds of games, not ten.
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What does bricking mean
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>>170714220
>So you'll admit they brick sometimes?
Depends on the game and what you consider bricking.

>And sometimes those sometimes line up in a row?
No.
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>>170714202
NOPE
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>>170714248
Unplayable starting hand.
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>>170714209
Qualify what you mean by "often" before you continue talking out of your ass.

>>170714248
When you get cards you can't use, ie your Revelations versus a Dshift, or cards that are way too expensive to use in the first few turns.
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>>170714248
when your opening hand is full of high cost so you watch while yuor opponent unga bunga your ass
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>>170714276
>you're not good at card games!
>t. someone who can't even comprehend basic probability
If something can happen once, it can happen many times in a row
You really shouldn't be lecturing anyone on anything
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>>170711945
That's how it goes vial fags

>>170712059
Eido's an okay power boost
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>>170714309
10 times in a row like the original guy said is pretty often.
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>>170714015
>>170714087
>>170714125
>>170714209
>>170714140
>>170714276
>>170714276
I love that this has devolved into two camps.

One arguing that drawing a card out of a deck of 40 possible cards is random chance, and one arguing that it's their SKILL.
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>>170714195
I don't like them all that much too, but sometimes they pull you lucky albert or front guard exactly when you need em. They also provide you some kind of draw while putting a body on field that might be ignored allowing you to setup 3 damage monika or 3 damage cyclone against some face shitters. Feel free to replace them with better straight value 2 drops and see what happens.
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>>170714276
By your logic, I could never have a coin land on heads five times in a row, because the chances of it landing tails is just too high.

You don't understand probability at all. I could flip a coin a hundred times and have it land heads all those times, and the chances of landing tails would still be 50% .
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>>170714305
>>170714309
>>170714327
Oh, thanks
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>>170714375
The decklist I was using had the 2/2 ward in place of them, I guess I'll try the maids and see what I think, the reason I wasn't hot on them was that I wasn't running them and never really thought I had problem with draw
But thank you for the decklist!
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>>170714140
>>170714209
When luck shits on you, it just shits on you, my dude. Sure it will get evened out later on and you will get those wins back if you are good, but huge lose streaks are just really depressing.
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>>170714364
That was never the argument you fucking retard.

>>170714401
Get good at deck building.
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>>170714364
But it's true. You can never completely eliminate your chances of bricking. And as long as it can happen, it has a chance to happen multiple times in a row.
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>>170714362
The original guy said 5.

Then the next guy said 10 as hyperbole.

The original guy was probably also using hyperbole.

>>170714453
Not only are you bad at maths, you also can't read. Stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>170714453
oh man this guy
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>>170714484
>Stop embarrassing yourself.
You should follow your own advice.
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>>170714401
it's not exactly a coinflip though. bricking 5 times in a row is unlikely, but not impossible of course.

>>170714453
some decks brick more often than others. if you play tons of high cost followers you're more likely to brick.
you're an aggroshitter aren't you
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>>170714202
If what you want to play is tempo rune then no.
Most of the spells in there are gold and silver and you won't be using the lego (Merlin). In that case buying the daily deal will be your best option.

Go for Darkness Evolved if you need Levi and vial stuff you get from the packs to craft whatever doesn't drop. This will take a longer time than buying the prebuilt, but you will be getting a lot more value from your crystals.
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>>170714453
>Get good at deck building.

nah i prefer just copy from gameai like these guys
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>>170714436
I'm using 2/2 wards too if you can't see very well, lol. I can't think of something to replace them other than or ding dong
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>>170714530
Everyone here is making fun of you. You should try self-reflection and learn from this experience.
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>Crying about bricking all the time
>Blame it on RNG instead of your deck building skills

Well, we always knew /svg/ is full of retards. No one is surprised.
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>>170714530
Lol, I'm fine, you're the one who ran out of arguments and have nothing to say. The very premise of your bullshit turned out to be incorrect; you began this rant by misreading the whole conversation, and decided to join in by being wrong about maths.

rofl, bet you wished you thought about that a little more before you started, huh?
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Why doesnt liquefy extras affect animated cards? 3 regular cards + animated card is extra, why doesnt it drop the normals down to 2? defeats the whole purpose of liquefy extras if i have to go through them anyway.
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>>170714594
My bad, didn't notice them on the bottom
How do you feel about Monika? I liked her originally in the previews but haven't seen her much in meta decks, I guess she combos well with cyclone but her condition (number of followers) makes me a tad nervous
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>>170714671
>rofl
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>>170714623

>implying decks are built

Most of the time, it's netdecked, anon.
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>>170714671
TOO LATE

HE'S SUNK TOO MUCH INTO IT

NEVER CONCEDE
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>>170714623
the posters don't even know what the cards are doing in their decks.
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>>170714584
>it's not exactly a coinflip though.
Exactly, with a coin flip, you have a higher chance of NOT "bricking", because you have a fifty percent chance of a desirable outcome.

Unless your entire deck has just one low curve, then there is nothing you can do to prevent that. Even with a low curve, you could draw cards that are simply bad for the situation, like a Blood Wolf when you don't want to lose any more health, or a Yurius AFTER the opponent played all their followers.

There are simply too many variables and things that could go wrong even with the perfect deck.
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>>170714453
t. Swordshitter
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>>170714140
You literally just agreed with what he said and then told him he was wrong.
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>>170714695
It doesn't liquefy animateds

and the maximum of a single card you can have in a deck is x3
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>>170714695
A checkbox in settings for "Liquefy non-animated extras" would be nice.
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I fap to cards more often than I play the game, really
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>>170714695
>why doesnt it drop the normals down to 2
because it's possible that you want to vial the animated cards instead if you don't care about the bling or whatever.

but yeah i wish there was an option for that.
i also wish there was an option for seeing how many copies you have in your cardpool when pulling from packs.
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>>170714839
This is the best course of action.
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Fucking RNG bullshit making me brick all the time. FUCK THIS SHITTY GAME

Pic related, how can this not work ?!?!?!? stubid game
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>>170714724
lmao what's the matter, can't handle being laughed at online with an acronym? lol baka

>>170714890
This is called a strawman argument and does not impress anyone. In fact you are only making a fool out of yourself.
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>>170714890
You aggro deck need 1pp drops since aggro is the best way and need 1pp cards
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Bake a new cake pls
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>>170714920
>lol
>rofl
>being this new
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>>170714839
I like fapping to this card how about you anon?
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>>170714697
>other than lyrial or ding dong
I meant.
Monika is just a dragon warrior allowing to clear 2 things with single card and you don't have many options of than for sword. She's good for daria and unga sword matchup and I can't really think of something to replace her.
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>>170714890
The mad readings I'm getting are elevating to dangerous levels. Brace yourselves! Let's see what happens next!
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This is what happens when they don't leak new cards to discuss.
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>>170714960
>being new
Yeah, YOU'D know, wouldn't you :P

It's really telling that you're taking the bait of clinging to these ad hominems, when in fact, that only exposes that lack of substance behind your entire position. ;D
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>>170715001
Don't judge me
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>>170714697
Not the same anon but I've been running Monika for the past 10 days or so. Currently 4.3k points in master.

I run 2 of her and honestly, she's pretty decent even if you can usually only deal 2 damage on turn 5, from her evo. It helps getting rid of things that might have been left because you couldn't clear it all on turn 3 and 4. Since it's usually a 2 drop that is left, the 2 damage is enough to take care of them.
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i want discord and /r/shadowverse to fuck off

sv should have stayed in mbg
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>>170715115
>>170715115
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>>170715056
Nah. It's just weekend and kids are yelling at each other again.
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>>170714623
>copy netdeck
>brick
>"wooooooooooow its your deck building skills"
You seriously think anyone here builds their own decks?
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>>170715185
I do for dragon
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>>170715001
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>>170714890
>being this upset
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>>170715010
Yeah, she's okay. The scenarios where I'd have nothing else on board just bother me a little. What would you put in if you only had 1 Aurelia?
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>>170715113
You are sub-human, I hope you are sterile and never come into contact with children.

Absolutely disgusting.
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>>170715568
>not wanting Unica to dance on your dick
Get out.
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>>170715568
i know right? a FAT HORSE? jesus christ..
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>>170715657
Unica is NOT fat.
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>>170715001
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