/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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stop using hydrogen thrusters.

>>170583435
I want off this rock, fuck you.

First for why fuck are vanilla thrusters so goddamned weak?

>>170584361
Keen has no vision

>>170582612
your sarcasm hurts anon
i dont know how to reply to a post in another thread pls no bully also im just happy it runs

>>170584608
>all those times markle was so stunned at what people were building
>the most mundane shit left him breathless

>markels original idea of the game was "welding shit in space"
fugg

>>170584608
Keen never intended for SE to be future-tech.

They've struggled with their own ideas vs community ideas vs what the physics allows vs Clang since day 0.

>>170584893
>keen
>ideas
gave me a chuckle

>>170584992
:^)

>>170584893
>Keen never intended for SE to be future-tech.
>gravity generators
>magic reactors that instantly output power just with uranium
>magic welders and grinders, two steps down from a fucking tri-corder
>litteral transmutation of shit into other shit

If they never intended it, they fucking failed on day one.

In the future everything is the same)))))))

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Tonk fights when?

>>170585274
Nice tonks anon

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>>170585601
I need to make them smaller still.
Kinda like this.

>>170585274
>>170585683
You should host a tonk gamemode where everyone builds tonks and other ground vehicles then fights.

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>>170585879
>multiplayer
>ground
>rotors
>space engineers

>>170586139
Enough clang for the entire family
Only $19.99

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>>170585879
>>170586139
This.
MP and rotors are not good friedns, more if you have 0.X of upload speeds.

>>170586205
Why isn't there any quantifiable measurement of CLANG's effects?

>>170586139
>>170586267
/egg/ ground fun when?
>>170586321
There is but Keen made it so the detector crashes constantly

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This is the best I've been able to do so far.

IT'S SHIT
HOW DO PEOPLE PLAY VANILLA?

>>170586380
No, I meant a unit of measure for CLANG's effects.
Somehow missed a few words

>>170586458
>The paper spontaneously explodes and catches fire

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>>170586380
>/egg/ ground fun when?

Soon as we can unfuck tracks and get the drivetrain in, bby.

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>>170586439
THE ONLY PART I LIKE

>>170586439
how many atmospherics does it take :^)

>>170586590
Thanks handsanon. I'm looking forward to it.

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>>170586458
KPC, Ker-jiggles Per Cycle

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>>170586651
>tfw you now have anywhere up to 4 pseudonyms that refer to the same entity

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>>170586439
replace hydros with ions and atmospherics.
And start in space so you get platinum or deal with meteors to find them on planets.

>>170585879
you can do this in machinecraft for free, and build super accurate tank models :^)

>>170586951
Hans plz no

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>>170586996
Machinecraft best /egg/

get the gas Hans

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>somebody tells me to re-install robocucks so I can invite somebody to the /egg/ group
>okay fine
>invite guy
>try out new "BETA" stuff
>its still unbalanced as fuck trash that makes me sick to my stomach

>>170586439
Hydrogen is best used for a ship that goes between space and atmosphere

>>170587123
I'd heard from a friend that it had apparently been massively improved. He couldn't give me a source.

>>170586619
One large cargo container and a light framework fully loaded with platinum with 1x inventory settings takes at least two large atmospherics to even get lift, or one large hydrogen and a few smalls.

I'm trying to build something that doesn't look like a cobbled together shitpile thrusterblob that is capable of taking full loads off planet, and I'm trying to do it vanilla so I don;t have to do a complete overhaul every time I join a new server. I can't count how many drills, welding ships, and trucks i've had to design from scratch because of wildly different modpacks.

>>170586928
>pic
>masses of ugly thruster blocks
That's what I'm trying to avoid. Atmos won't get me high enough for ions to kick in, and hydros are exceedingly bulky with limited flight time.

>>170587295
Have you considered that that's what I'm doing?

>>170587342

>massively improved

They cut teams down from 8vs8 to 5vs5 and shrunk all maps by 20-25%. Then they removed the stupid towers you had to shot to capture map locations, and made them just circles you sit on for 10seconds to capture.

Nothing else changed. Its still a heap of hot garbage.

>>170587463
Maybe install aeromods and build a cargo plane instead.

>>170587463
Let me clarify.
Hydrogen is best used for a ship that goes between space and atmosphere, but only while going between space and atmosphere.

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>>170587529
>10seconds to capture.
So you get fucked by the railmech across the map then. Nice.

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P O W E R I N G U P

>>170587751
The fuck is that

>>170587798
6GW arc reactor under construction

>>170587751
What, pray tell, the fuck is that?

>>170587861
For what purpose?

>>170587938
power

>>170587695

Yes. Capping the points makes you a sitting duck.

The worst thing is that the enemy team can capture points in chunks. The capture bar on each point is split into 3 chunks. So if some fag sits on the point enough to fill 2 bars and then gets chased away, he can just come back the instant you leave and cap the last bar the rest of the way in like 2 seconds and gets control of the map location.

So it means idiots can just keep suiciding at capture points non stop and they will eventually win it even though you've killed them 10 times in a row trying to prevent them from taking it.

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robocucks

>>170588082
>they kept the old capture system

Further evidence they have no fucking clue what they're doing, and anything good they've ever done was purely accidental.

They should have broken it down into 2, at most, with the second chevron taking slightly longer. Or just not at all and have a similar cap system to wot, where you lose all progress when you're hit or leave the circle.

>>170587680
Considering it's ideally a ground-to-space cargo craft, atmospheric travel should be minimal. In order to get quality lift, for every cargo container I would need three large atmos and two large hydros. I need three tanks for every two hydros to get up to 9.7m of hydrogen time, just enough to get into space where a handfull of ions can kick in. We're talking a 32:3 ratio of JUST lift thrust:cargo, before factoring in lateral/forward thrust, power, conveyors, gyroscopes, life support, landing, hull, etc. I'm better off using three large hydros and 4 or 5 tanks per cargo for primary lift.

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>>170588156
>negative critique of robocuck
>noo stop it
Who's the cuck now?

>>170588498
You dont need hydrogen thrusters to last that long, you use atmosphere thrusters to get up until they start losing significant efficiency then you have a quick and powerful burn of hydrogen until you can use ion.

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I can't believe FTD is fucking dead

>>170590162
>Too busy subjugating Neter

>>170589367
Can't you just get to upper atmosphere on atmospheric thrusters, then continue on ions?

>>170589367
reevaluating my numbers, it still takes 6-7 minutes to get into space, but it looks like I do only need 2 minutes of hydrogen barring any unforseen issues. So It looks like 4 atmos, either 2 large or 10 small hydros, and a single tank should get me into ion range. I'm too tired and KEEEEN'd to continue tonight though. Down to about a 20:3 ratio though, and that's much more workable.

Good night /egg/

Is Skyline the only /egg/ serb? The part count restriction is too aggressive.
>spawn in respawn ship
>have to evade pirate ships within 10 minutes of playtime.

>>170591526
>/egg/ serb
not an /egg/ serb, just has a few /egg/ players

>>170591526
>The part count restriction is too aggressive.
>spengies

Zero is still too much.

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>keen breaks batteries, tanks, cargo, etc. so they can't be displayed on lcd via scripts yet again
Thanks Keen, I didn't want to look at my battery gauge at a glance and rather use your shitty UI that's bugged.

>>170591125
Theres a zone between atmosphere and space where both thrusters are shit.

Is it worth considering setting up hangar doors next to windows to act as preventative shielding and/or breach sealing? I think I remember plenty of talk in the past about hangar doors making really good armor, and I really like the idea of hitting a button to seal everything off in preparation for combat, especially the bridge.

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>robocucks has a matchmaking score assigned ot each player now
>goes up when you win, down when you lose
>can just tank your score on purpose to shit stomp newbies in the low tiers, and then win a couple matches when you feel like going back to normal matches

>matchmaking now takes nothing into account except for your matchmaking score
>nothing else matters at all

Stop hating on hydrogen thrusters they're great.

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Smooth

>>170593807
>can just tank your score on purpose to shit stomp newbies in the low tiers, and then win a couple matches when you feel like going back to normal matches
Are you implying that this is unique to Robocraft?

Is Abortion legitimately good? I've seen some neat HM mothership builds and I wondering what ship can you deploy in general? Just fighters or all sorts of other ship sizes?

>>170596220
Just fighters and they are bugged and have retarded AI.

>legitimately good
Not really.

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>>170593459
I've used them as a debris shield on my station sized tow truck ship, as well as an emergency atmosphere entry ship as an effective heat shield with the aerodynamics and deadly re-entry mod.

The debris shield works great at blocking chunks of hull when ramming into running ships, and while my setup doesn't protect the whole cockpit its a great "dont let the pilot become a red smear" shield
And as a heat shield it takes a considerable amount of time to burn up on re-entry, so much so that if i could i would cover the whole ship in them.

>>170596814
Have you compared them to blast blocks for the re-entry bit? I'm curious how they hold out.

>>170596220
>Is it good?
I got 100 hours out of it, and it was pretty fun for the first 95, but after those 100 hours the game, I have zero urge to play again until I see some major content additions.
Dev seems alright though, so I'm feeling that there's a good chance that will happen, though it'll probably be slow.


tl;dr
It was fun enough to beat the dollar per hour rule five times over, but suffers from a lack of reason to re-play it.

>>170597415
As a heat shield for the windows id have to use pistons and id like for my ship to at least make it to atmosphere before blowing up.

>>170597719
Kek. I meant more for the hull, especially in the front where it's gonna be taking the most damage.

>>170598089
yea but it looks ugly

For those of you playing Spengies. How many corez and how many herts are your processor running?

Describe you sim speed. Thanks in advance and remember that Jesus loves you.

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>>170598280
>kerbal posting
Anon, you're going to have a bad time. You really should delete this.

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>>170598280
УДAЛИTЬ HEMEДЛEHHO

>>170598345
I'm so very sorry. I completely forgot for a moment there. I deleted it as soon as I was able to.
>>170598397
I don't speak Spanish, lad.

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What /egg/ game is good for a newfag who can't into engineering?

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>>170598668
about simspeed:
my game/save just seems to randomly drop to 0.50 or as low as 0.27 simspeed even with nothing major in the star system world
goes back to 1.00 sometimes by itself or if I restart
have almost all graphics set to low but using a intel quad core at 3.00 GHz and an old GTX 460, but only 8 GB ram.

>>170598397
>Google Translate believes it's Mongolian

>>170598668
8 core amd FX processor at 5ghz. Dips to .9, sometimes to .6. FPS holds fine at about 60-70, dipping to 30 when shit goes ballistic.

GTX 980 for the gfx card.

Where were you when Warcucks stopped being #1?

>>170599551
What alternate timeline are you in?

>>170600346
A brighter one, apparently.

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>>170600346
The one where current event have ended.

It's over boys, we can drop the warbros meme once and for all.

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>>170600547
UNACCEPTABLE

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>>170598668
>Actually deleting a shitpost-singularity-game post

I respect you, anon.

>>170600547
>not /egg/

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>>170600683
>implying

>>170600683
We share plenty of shitposters with /wfg/, among other generals and boards.
It's tangentially semi-related.

Crossout going OBT
W H E N ?
H E N W ?
E N W H ?
N W H E ?
? ? ? ? ?

>>170600917
Reminder that Ced was a community translator and tester for Warframe until DE cucked the game and burned him
like Keen did

>>170601121
Should we find a good rape victim support group for Ced?

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>>170600917

>Crossout open beta

This is right from their private beta forums.

>"Wipe and Open Beta are planned for the first quarter of 2017 - that is March. If something goes awry, we may delay it for a couple of weeks, but not substantially."

So basically "Soon™"

>>170601203
danke

Post your engineering music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxtCoSlu-8A

>>170601525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erMO3m0oLvs

>>170601525

I find its relevant to most /egg/ games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUSoR4EdyIo

>>170601525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btXkuoXXta0

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FEED ME CHECHENS...

>>170601525
BOOP BOOP BEEP BEEP

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thnXzUFJnfQ

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Nuclear engineering when?

>>170603741
0.15 Factorio

>>170603741
Where is that from?

>>170605146
looks like 2hu proojact fanart

>>170605437
I see. Was hoping I could find more as its very visually interesting, but I found nothing through reverse searching.

>>170605673
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_F5tlI8i4U

>>170605991
>tfw all touhou songs suck after scarlet devil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHmzO2RI1fs

>tfw this has litterally nothing to do with engineering, other than autism

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>>170606205
>tfw you post a video and then notice it's from some cock sucking furfags youtube channel

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>>170606593
>tfw all streamers who do autistic shit are actually functionally autistic and are into furfag shit or worse

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>can't place 1x1 angled windows angled outwards and upwards with the non-tinted side facing me
>no inverted option
And this is only the beginning of my problems. I fucking hate the windows in this game.

>>170607024
Skywanderers is going to blow this shit out of the water so damn hard it isn't funny.

>>170607114
Careful you'll trigger Starmade-anon

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>>170607204
What the fuck is his problem with it? Its litterally the same but better in every way. Except player models, I suppose.

>>170607271
He's mad they use Unity

>>170607306
>getting triggered over an engine
Christ. I'm mad that starmad uses fucking java of all things, one of the worst damn engines that exist for video games. Also the reason development takes so damn long.

I actually spoke to schema about this, and asked why he didn't just use an existing engine to vastly shorten development time. He said he didn't feel comfortable not having 100% control over everything, which is fair, but it doesn't seem to have helped him much in terms of development and bugs.

>>170607471
Why did the other space voxel games fail? Corneroids etc.

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>>170607524
Mostly due to choice of engine. Scrumbleship was a custom engine, and is still fucking being developed. Very slowly.

Blockade runner used some free microsoft shit that had its support dropped, and they moved to unity early last year,

Corneroids... I actually forgot what engine that used, but I assume it was custom. The dev just got bored and wandered off, it seems.

I forget if there were any other voxel space games, but the pattern seems consistent.

>>170607668
What's with every indie dev wanting their own game engine? I don't understand this at all.

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>>170607741
I don't, but far as I can tell it was because all the free options were shit and the paid options were thousands of dollars until very recently.

While we're on the topic, what else does a physics testing area need? I have a blender on the far left, some of those bump things I forgot the name of on the right and some spinning bars.

It doesn't really matter what it is, as long as it can be expressed with boxes or very simple models for now. REMdev is asleep, and I'm not good at modeling even slightly.

>>170607932
A crusher.

>>170607932
add some walls to the blender leaving entrances in a + pattern

a cannon/catapult

"terrain" made by squares varying in tallness

>>170584361
to get the kind of thrust required for vanilla ion thrusters in the real world, the exhaust needs to be moving at high percentages of the speed of light and you need an enormous amount of power. The mass energy of uranium consumed doesn't even provide enough

>>170605146
Touhou. It's a nuclear powered bird from hell.

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>>170607932
Here is a description of car hell:
http://www.natc-ht.com/Test_Course_Descriptions.htm

The coral spike test is rather interesting. There are probably other standard car tests.

Areas with different coefficients of friction are a must

How about a nice crash test wall. Bonus points if you add an adjustable speed catapult for getting stuff up to speed.

Other fun crash test objects include, poles and anti-tank obstacles.

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>>170608117
So the ASTM E2826 - 11standard emergency robot test terrain for confined environments?

https://www.astm.org/Standards/E2826.htm

https://youtu.be/j9Vsf6XeNEs
N E W L O G I C

>>170610661
Whatever. Where are the pistons, rotors and rack&pinion slidey things

>>170611008
In the video.

>>170611043
Hm maybe this won't be dildos afterall

>>170611170
They're in other videos too.

>>170611248
ok lemme know when I can build a tokyo-3 style base with armored shutters and buildings that rise up out of the ground

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>>170611534
There are rails. I assume you'd put the buildings on rails and have them slide up.

>>170611616
so can you have a set of horizontal shutters flush with the ground that move down 1 tile and then slide away left and right?

What if we made a neural net that could patch together other neural nets to make one giant net

>>170611720
why are you so insistent in asking questions nobody will know the answer to until its released?

>>170612126
Half of one of his questions was answered.

>>170612126
They might have seen a video of tracks that shows objects travelling around 90 degree corners without rotating and didn't someone here get an invite to a closed prealpha?

>>170612220
Yes, but there is litterally no way to know the other, especially something so specific as
>so can you have a set of horizontal shutters flush with the ground that move down 1 tile and then slide away left and right?

Nobody will know until it releases. Theoretically, its completely feasible, especially with examples given, but there's no way to know for sure.

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>>170612308
Someone did and they're not posting content? Rude.

>>170612323
Now that i think about it, even without the ability to run tracks around 90 degree corners or some kind of square block that engages the trcks on multiple faces it may be do-able by transferring the door from a short downward set of tracks onto sideways tracks.

At any rate, tracks change everything I'll definitely be playing this now. Those fucking retards at keen never do anything good

>>170612438
>>170612308
They applied and didn't get accepted. You lads need to stop assuming things based on what you've heard without evidence.

>>170612482
I didn't get accepted either. Podcast faggots got in.

>>170612459
>At any rate, tracks change everything I'll definitely be playing this now. Those fucking retards at keen never do anything good

Gonna toss in a real quick reminder starmade has had this shit for ages, but I suppose there's nothing else to do so there's no point.

>>170612553
Starmade seems to have cool features but no players. Why?

>>170612656
Laggy as shit, AI is retarded, community is more interested in building the prettiest shelf-piece than combat, multiplayer goes to hell really easily, very little content to explore and do beyond a token handful of shit, most systems are very unintuitive and limited.

Also programmed in java.

Imagine a slightly worse avorion with less shit to do and made out of voxels.

>>170612656
Because there is nothing much to do. Every update changes something so you have to remake your ships to be as good as they were. The asinine generator design makes this annoying as fuck too. Game has way too many blocks fo everything so you have to constantly hop in menus.

And the base design philosophy of ship design is that bigger equals always better.

>>170612765
>And the base design philosophy of ship design is that bigger equals always better.

worth noting the ship pivots on its center of mass without calculating inertia because the community is too retarded to account for that, and thruster placement is litterally meaningless.

>>170612995
>b-b-but muh cool looking thruster arrays by hiding them inside the ship and adding either ice or lavablocks to show where they should be

>>170612995
>thruster placement is litterally meaningless.
That's what Skywanderers wants. He said something along the lines of not wanting to limit creativity.

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>>170613123
>not wanting to limit creativity.

>>170613148
A-At least we get rails and rotors without clang...

>>170613123
Which is fuggin stupid. If someone wants a huge ship then the obvious downside should be lower manouverability or needing to add more thrusters in places that can get destroyed.

>>170613123
I thought spengos already had something very close to this. Thruster placement seems to matter very little

I'm guessing skywankers doesn't have any kind of damage modelling?

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>>170613268
>New games are becoming less complicated as time goes on

>>170613375
>>170613354
Thats not what community wants. They just want to make their 1:1 replicas of Yamato, Enterprise, star detstroyer etc. And post the pictures on the official forus to get their E-peen sucked.

>>170613354
>I'm guessing skywankers doesn't have any kind of damage modelling?
It seems to have something similar to starmade's, which I have no idea will work on larger scale battles at nice framerates.

>>170613445
Trash community. We need an egg combat serb
>>170613473
I don't know but I know he wants bubble energy shields eventually. The shields won't show up unless they're being hit.

You know, I want a game whre building the ship is like working on real shipbuilding software instead of floating in space and slapping down blocks like the game is trying to be Minecraft.

>>170613560
>I know he wants bubble energy shields eventually.

I've seen people screaming for this feature to be added to from the depths in this general.

>>170613648
Doesn't FTD have shields?

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>>170608117
>add some walls to the blender leaving entrances in a + pattern
I did my best, and added another blade to the blender. Please excuse the terrible framerate. The unity editor is shit shy and doesn't like being recorded when its doing anything.

I'll do the squares next. The cannon/catapult will need to wait until REMdev gets back on, as that requires scripting.

>>170608823
>The coral spike test is rather interesting. There are probably other standard car tests.
The tank trap things? I can do those.

>Areas with different coefficients of friction are a must
Requires scripting, but we were going to do that anyway.

>How about a nice crash test wall. Bonus points if you add an adjustable speed catapult for getting stuff up to speed.

I can do a wall, but a catapult needs some scripting.

> poles
sure, why not

>>170608006
Requires scripting to go up and down, unfortunately.

>>170613712
Can you build tonks yet?

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>>170613697
It does but they're more complex than slapping down a couple of blocks and boop you've got a bubble around your ship. to double layer shield a ship you might need 50+ generators placed all around with each one carefully adjusted

>>170613987
they're also a major ass pain to place when you make a big ship
personally i want a bubble shield in addition to the old shields but nick is ded so

>>170614135
No, Nick is not dead.
He's just an idiot who doesn't do good ideas, including but not limited to: not making a second game that is exactly as FtD and that will be exactly the same as FtD in the end.

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>>170613785
Soon dammit.

We got the tracks in nice and good, at least the first pass like the wheels, they just need to be implemented into the builder and properly textured. For them to work properly we need to do some more framework, such as limiting placement and clipping in the builder so the system knows what the fuck is happening without specific tweaking. Retard proof, if you will.

Please excuse the odd lighting, this is the testing scene without any nice shit.

>>170614189
There is some merit in a single player spinoff if multiplayer does slow down the dev process as much as he claims. Now he can spitball ideas more quickly and easily and port the ones that work to ftd. theoretically.

>>170614135
Good shields should be a major pain in the ass to install because they're a pain to counter.

>>170614189
I'm holding a shred of hope he's going to completely refactor his code and restart in unity 5.5. Seriously, the amount of workaround shit he's done is prolific. Unity 4 was a heap.

>>170614362
Multiplayer does not slow down the development process. Nick's retarded decisions do, and multiplayer code is only one of the many.

Refactoring code and upgrading to a higher version of unity might be worth the pain, but it'll still take an entire year.

Oh, and that other game? It's just his fucktarded way of trying to earn more money, since FtD sales don't get him shit. I wonder why.

>>170614443
I can't take you seriously when you're completely unable to keep your butthurt in check and discuss the issue rationally

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>>170614443
>Multiplayer does not slow down the development process

Gonna call bullshit on that one for you, but everything else checks out. every time you change something, mainly how something works, you have to spend at least a few hours tuning it to function in multiplayer. So any new feature, like say, steam engines, require you to go back and recheck every reference and process that is synced over the network. Since FTD uses -I think- lockstep, this means that it has to be optimised to hell and back as well.

>>170614443
>trying to earn more money, since FtD sales don't get him shit. I wonder why.

According to steamspy ftd has sold around 200k copies and the regular price is $20. So he's made more than a million bucks?

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>>170614629
I guess I just phrased that badly. I don't remember Nick ever dedicating any major amount of time to multiplayer outside of shoving it out, at least not as far as his posts are concerned. I don't really see how the exclusion of multiplayer speeds it up at all. Even then, the minor addition of even local multiplayer increases a game's lifespan tenfolds. If he were reasonable, he would consider the addition of multiplayer in the general future and plan ahead for it, programming the game to lend itself better for, say, more optimal peer to peer networking. But he won't do that, he's Nick.

It's not the multiplayer that slowed down the previous development. It's Nick's constant fucking "rebalancing" and adding of scattered, nonsensical features, as well as depending completely on the fucktarded community to q-test everything. A reasonable person would plan out the game ahead and get all the working systems in before balancing out all the gameplay, since the balance will inherently change with each new addition. But Nick doesn't do that.
Nick's method also leads to quite a lot of bloat, since he just keeps shoving more and more bullshit on top of old bullshit, then removing or changing around said old bullshit as he "rebalances" it. It's no wonder it took him and N3X15 fucking months to get over 30 FPS after spawning in a decently sized ship.

TL;DR: There is no use in hoping for FtD's return just as there is no use in hoping for a miracle. It's a glorified ship building game, and will stay that.

>>170615002
Not enough to afford anyone else to code for him according to his own words and actions, apparently.

>>170615002
>So he's made more than a million bucks?
Gotta account for bank loans, fees, steam's cut, living expenses, taxes on litterally everything I just mentioned and the like. He's made a gross 450k, if I were to guess.


On an unrelated note, this was just posted:
http://crossout.net/en/news/144/current/

>>170615309
Well 200k at $20 is 4million. Surely he'd see at least 1 mil of that.

>>170615158
The point is you hate nick and ftd so much you just say dumb shit without even thinking, like ftd didn't make any money when apparently it grossed several million dollars

>>170615476
>it grossed several million dollars
>several million dollars
>he'd see at least 1 mil of that

Literally just contradicted yourself. Gross refers to the amount you MADE, subtracting all expenses and costs sunk into it, including time that you put in without pay.

In any case, don't underestimate taxes. They bleed your ass dry the more you make because you're not working under some company with a salary and therefore are in the lowest income bracket, with the highest tax percentile.

>>170615476
gross or net, I forget which one is which, you know what I mean

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>>170615621
>Literally just contradicted yourself. Gross refers to the amount you MADE, subtracting all expenses and costs sunk into it, including time that you put in without pay.


fucking disregard that I'm tired. Its net that I was thinking of

>>170610661
>Stacking projectors to increase size

>Stack so many galaxy projectors that the projection clips outside of the ship and continue to make it even larger
>Build several of them, hooking them up to the same button
>Keep building and stacking until the entire ship is in a makeshift nebula
>Flick switch and activate your ghetto stealth system making it at least marginally harder for the enemy to know where you are/hit you

>Launch the swarm missile death star lasers from in the cloud

I know it'll probably have a stack size cap or be quickly patched out once realized, but a man can dream right?

>>170616269
Looks like a clown's dildo/10
Good shit famalam, keep it up

>>170616419
How can it be clown's dildo if it's not horn-shaped?

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>>170615158

>>170617809
I have no idea what you're talking about, but yes.

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>>170618098
Its a meme you dip. He's reffering to SS13, a game where you can autistically roleplay the asshole you're too much of a coward to be in real life.

Its ungodly amounts of fun when it hits the fan.

>>170618406
It's actually a good thing he doesn't know your unfunny, gay ss13 memes

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>>170618662
>my memes
My man I don't even fucking play SS13, cease your rampant anal inflammation.

>>170618716
>Its ungodly amounts of fun when it hits the fan.
>I don't even play it

ok

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>>170618852
guys stop

>>170618406
Oh, shit, neat, didn't know that, I played a couple rounds of SS13, but ended up stopping fairly early on because the idea that I was actually interacting in some quazi-meaningful way with other people, and potentially could be banned for not remembering one of the rules stressed the fuck out of me and I stopped playing, planning on seeing a psych soon about anxiety though, so I'll probably start playing again eventually.

Never played any jobs beyond janitor and botanist, but it does seem like a ton of fun once you know what you're doing in some of the more interesting jobs though.

>>170618891
>so dysfunctional and weak they need a psychiatrist
>plays ss13

Checks out.

Oh boy, the SS13 retards are here again.
They're barely better than the /kspg/ cunts. Hide and ignore.

>>170619038
>Dysfunctional
Yeah, pretty much.

>Weak
Hey, fuck you, you piece of shit.
I mean, you're still right, though.
But fuck you anyway.

>>170619041
honestly I'm a bit drunk right now, but yeah, probably best to get back on topic, I'll stop

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Shame this is as about as combat effective as a turd.
Nose laser gets fired by AI at 2km misses horrendously, but if it ever hits lolit bursts 4k damage/sec.
Turning rate is poor no matter how much I augment with jets, missiles are about the only thing its got going for it.
But at 2400 volume, pathetic.

Back to the drawing board.

>>170620904
>building in FtD for effectiveness
An exercise in failure.
If you want to build an effective ship in that game, just make a borg cube of cannons and shields and engines.
Otherwise, you should go for style or silly shit.

>>170620904
If the problem is not enough focus, maybe add more focus? At first glance it looks like the issue is detection though. Try out a 9m rangefinder and laser tracker combo

>>170621001
My stuff looks great and kicks ass.

>>170621137
0.71° on the laser, detetction its front ir 90, gimballed ir on belly, some passive radars, and thats about it, so yeah will try more detection.

Also shifting the rotors into not all vlift has made it turn pretty well.

>>170621292
yeah .71 isn't great for 2km range. IR detection isn't very accurate. If you try different detector don't forget they have a Q menu where you can set them up. I use the autoadjust button.

>>170621492
Added a laser+conincidence ranger, didn't make a huge amount of difference, then I gave it a big dick of laser optics down to 0.31° and it can actually hti now....

>>170621667
Damn this is getting useful now.

>>170621667
No room to extend it backwards? It looks pretty clean without a laser dick

>>170621995
Rear is filled with engines, i'm sure I could juggle stuff about a bit.

>>170622117
Ok.... just took out a SD Wyvern, my pleasure is increasing.

>>170613354
spomges has mods that fix that though.
The problem of spergos is the absolute shit tier controls, even the controller sticks are converted to digital input, the only way around is using the Control Module mod and make that use the analog reading of the controller (iirc I tested it with the xbox controller and it was readable) then bind it to thruster override.

I hope keen will add custom controllers support for maximum comfy.

>>170621001
>bloo bloo, only big designs are good
I stomped through the campaign using 800-block fliers.
Only reason why effectiveness would be a null point in FtD, is that there's hardly any limitations.
Resources are practically infinite, there's minimal pressure from hostile factions and there's no limit to how big a vessel you can bring into a fight.

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>>170614252
MUH.

>>170614252
REM downhill drift races WHEN?

>>170625319
It would probably be a smart move to include a downhill touge actually. I'm not even joking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNEgXg9vTik
We will be free soon.

>>170625713
>>170625319
Definitely. It'd give a reason to fine tune suspension mechanics as best as is possible for sure.

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>>170613712

>>170625716
Just the fact that it has/will have copy/paste and symmetry tools already means the devs are capable of thinking about what they're doing

>>170624605
isn't it in the game already? try messing about in options menu, threre's controller support on/off somewhere

>>170625716
>no engineering at all
>lol one thruster makes you go all ways brah
remind me again how will we be free

>>170628086
I tested that when the wheels update came out, controller support enabled, using an xbox360 controller, so it might have changed (but let's be honest, nothing is ever fixed).
The stick behave like buttons, it either fires the thrusters or doesn't, so do the triggers.
While in first person, moving the stick makes you walk, run and sprint but not at analog speeds, it just cycles through the keyboard modes.
Same for wheels, they don't steer as much as you move the stick, they just either steer or don't, and they're either pushing or not.

IIRC looking/gyro controls behaves correctly.

The game probably doesn't support analog inputs for thrusters/wheels yet, and while you can make that work with the thrust override for thrusters, there's no way to fix it for wheels.

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This is why you don't let physicians touch your reloading bench.

>>170629069
Isn't that basically just an elephant rifle grenade?

>>170629161
That is what you use when you want to fire the mangled bits of your rifling at the enemy.

>>170629202
So perfect obrez material.

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Also this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc8_AuzeYKE
How long until we have a game engine capable of having a space elevator built between a planet and into space, without needing to load them as separate areas?

>>170585041
Gravity generators were a placeholder originally.

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>>170601525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E58xTS4mfzk

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>>170629562

>>170629069
>>170629467
But those work perfectly fine.

>>170629069
>implying physicians would be capable of such masterpieces
A physician would just stick the bullet backwards because pointy things are easy to wedge in.

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>>170614252
>We can make slav tinderboxes
WHEN???

>>170601525
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-kYiDbG39s

>>170630431
Apparently that actually works pretty well as a ghetto soft point.
http://www.theboxotruth.com/the-box-o-truth-50-shooting-bullets-backwards/

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>>170629846

>>170612002
What if we put a neural net inside a neural net on the internet?

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Why do I never see any cool space stations on /eeg/? It's all ships all the time.

>>170612002
>>170632565
NOW LOOK AT THIS NET

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>>170632581
Because reasons

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>>170632581
But anon, any ship can become a station, should it deplete it's delta-v reserves!
Have a piece of station for your trouble.

I have a desktop with an outdated i5 and a Geforce 970, and a laptop with shitty VGA but a newish i7. Both have 16gb RAM. On which system will FTD have better FPS and simspeed?

>>170633510
Neither, because Nick cannot into either multithreading or graphics optimization.

>>170632581
Well technically Lemonhulks are stations, or at least they would be if there was any point in staying in one place for extended periods on spengies MP servers (when your're not already embedded in a planet/asteroid).

>>170612735
I'm cautiously optimistic about Avorion, I'll probably buy it in a year or so.

>>170634509
>when your're not already embedded in a planet/asteroid
AKA i'd tug this planet/asteroid around, but you know, keencode

Anyone wanting to team up in vanilla Space Engineers survival?

No gay stuff

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ded

Paging N3X15

>>170633337
>Coffins
W-what for?

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>>170614252

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I wanna play some /egg/ but all my options are ded or early alpha or both.
wat do?

>>170641734
Besiege.

>>170641734
Suck it up?
To be an /egg/ it must be ded in the first place, and the vast majority of /egg/ are early access titles.
Masochistic autism is part and parcel for /egg/men

Zachtronics games are a possibility, but really just fuck with whatever.

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>>170641416
It's not the kind of coffin you think it is.

>>170644062
Wouldn't mind this too much if I had my computer hooked up in there.

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>>170646007
>no chairs
Christ this is like that /v/ space horror story again

>>170646189
>that /v/ space horror story
elaborate

>>170646596
there was some copy pasta about a ship in space that had no chairs and eventually everyone went insane because they couldn't sit down till they killed each other and used their bodies to make chair

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>>170647994
That's why you send slavs into space

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>>170633337
Wonder if thats actualy concept art from many, many, many, many failed film adaptations of neuromancer

Some madman was gonna film it in *actual* Kowloon, but then that got demolished in mid 90s

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>>170648428
I miss all the slavposting during the ded hours during the last coming of ced.
Also that one really butthurt faggot who hated slavs.

>>170648428
>Having slavs origins
>Feels comfortable when squatting.

...fuck...

>>170649502
Another term for jury rigging is nigger rigging. In a sentence: "Ghetto X is a nigger rigged X".

Slavs are better at it because Soviet engineers leftt their legacy.

>/pol/ posing on /egg/

This general going to shit.

>>170650717
>/pol/
More /int/, and it's always been a thing.

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>>170651174
Not any more.

>>170651591
You realise no one, not even most of the mods, gives a shit right?

>>170651725
They actually do. I've gotten my posts deleted and even banned before. Not even joking.

>>170651807
Most of the mods, mind you.
They're actually apparently all quite conflicted how to moderate afaik.
Saw some snippets of irc.

Only people who'd actually get buttflustered over some light shitposting are pre-/jp/ and [s4s] takeover /qa/tards.
Ironically it's become quite the fun board now.

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>spent almost all of yesterday trying to come up with a decent start to my ship and got almost nowhere
>tfw actually starting to make decent progress today
R8 what I've got so far.

>>170651725
>>170651807
>>170652030
You can see mod bias on /vr/ pretty clearly. Sometimes, certain threads will be left up for weeks, sometimes they'll be deleted with an hour. It's a pretty good indicator if a Diablo 2 thread lasts for 30 posts, it'll probably remain on the board.

>>170635149
Sure, post Steam.

>>170653204
/vr/ is a goon exclave. I'm not really concerned about what they do.

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Lime & Bitters has landed

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>decide to try spengies since EEM is fixed
>try out the trading script
>miraculously works
>throw in 3k plat ore
>it starts going up and never stops
>try to abort and get at least the credits out
>it's frozen
FUCK

>move to other terminal
>decide to sell slowly
>buy uranium ingots back in 100kg batches
>one batch falls into the floor and goes critical
>ded, a chunk of the station is gone, my ship is gone since it was respawning ship
I've had enough spengies till the new UI.

does space engineers have a good multiplayer?

>>170656725
i think you know the answer to that

>>170656994
it has better multiplayer than kerbal

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>>170656994
Well that explains why you're asking, you're a MOR-ON

I think skywanderers having no physics whatsoever between moving part is a smart move. There's literally no clang to be had. So long as the moderation/server running tools are robust, a server admin can moderate the exploity builds and overly minmaxed stuff that are sure to ensue because of the lack of physics.

>>170633337
I dont know what this is from but im going to try to make it.

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>>170615621

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who /WHEEL SHIELD/ here?

>>170660907
Hit it with something bigger, faster.

>>170660907
Try a battering ram made out of wheels, maybe a boarding pod with a single wheel on the front.

>>170630431
Weren't the first anti tonk bullets just bullets with the projectile backwards?

>>170660907
They don't have the same destruction patterns as other blocks, so yeah that makes a lot of sense actually

>>170661698
Once things start phasing through to the blocks holding them then yeah it'll revert to normal damage.

>>170663427
Yes, essentially a flying die punch.

>>170629069
Stop confusing physicians with physicists.

What are the essential Factorio mods. ie the ones that improve visuals or implement features that really should have been vanilla?

>>170664917
>newfags

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>>170661698
But what happens when a ram made of wheels hits a wall made of wheels? A wheely bad time?

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>>170664917
Spotted the newfag.

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>>170665713

>>170665127
"name": "rso-mod",
"name": "autofill",
"name": "Honk",
"name": "Orbital Ion Cannon",
"name": "robotarmy",
"name": "UraniumPower",

>>170666205
>Honk
Go away, clown

>>170665713
You gotta be skidding me.

>>170665127
bobs inserters
warehousing
farl
waitex(up-scaled smoothed textures)
Factorissimo

>>170665713
I'm tired of your shit, anon

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>>170665713
>>170667009

>>170667271
Waitex made my Factorio client hang up and crash while loading, where do I remove it manually?

>>170667615
>>170667602
>>170667009
>>170665889
Well that took a turn for the worse.

>>170665713
>>170667009
>>170667602
>>170668503


It's times like these I'm glad I lug around a copy of "101 Well-Rounded Wheel Puns."

I recommend it, if you haven't tread it yet.

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>>170668479
%appdata%\factorio\mods

>>170669649
Thanks

>>170646189
>chairs
I have my bed, I don't need no chair.

>>170669080
That's a good one, I like the way you roll

>>170670117
>t. 400 lbs russian hacker

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>>170670802
How do you even squat if you're that fat?

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>>170671078

>>170671078
You see Ivan, if you are always squatting then body weight is not being of problem.

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>>170671767
Welp.

>>170671078
come on anon, it's like asking how do they roll if they diameter is too big

>>170673141
I asked because I was around 200lbs once and squatting was already hard and inconvenient with that girth, let alone an extra 200 on top of that.

>>170673384
I don't get this meme

>Captcha: 3600 MEWS

>>170674797
It's highly vintage /egg/

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post corridors

also, i miss old lights

>>170665707
>>170665808
I remember when the only game discussed here was Corneroids (RIP), and I've never seen this shitty meme before.

>>170676028
It's from the robocuck general but has become a general term for retarded normalfag

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>>170676028
The meme is new™
>>170676130
This

>>170676028
>claims to have been with the general since it was /cg/
>doesn't recognize an old robocuck meme that's been brought back into use for almost a year

>>170676479
I don't play Robocraft. I typically ignore discussion about it. It's just not my cup of tea.