/twg/ - Total War General

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First for tyranny

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ONLY TRUE VENGEANCE WILL MAKE ME HAPPY - IS THAT WHAT YOU OFFER!?

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>>170565926

Reposting for advice, what sort of empire army counters elves? I have access to everything but funds are tight so efficiency is desired.

mod to make leadership aura relay buff effects when

>>170566260
Elves love their archers and hollywood melee women. Heavy cavalry armies absolutely deletes their weak cav and then makes archers open for attack, all their infantry can be cycle charged to death,

>>170566195
Beggar Nohammer is a gay stuntie.

>>170566260

either heavy Armour or long range, WE excel at long range and Tree Hitler has often hard hitting tree Wehrmacht behind his back,

>>170566483
INTO THE BOOK

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>empire most played faction
>no alternate start

Why does CA hate the Empire? Do they hate popular things?

>>170566619
CA prefer Vampire Counts.

>>170566260
>Ziflin's allied to Kislev
What. What?
I don't think words can possibly explain how baffled I am right now.

/gsg/ is cancer lads so I'm gonna ask here on a somewhat unrelated note but not shilling for another game since no mention of it

democratic japan or imperialist japan

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>>170566189

ofc

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I mean, what could go wrong right?

>>170566754
imperialist

I saw a vision of Gilles le Breton. He told me you were a faggot.

this stinks

>>170566483

and probably a gobbo too :DDD.
Grimnir and not Gork ok?, praise Grimnir

>>170566793
>>170566754
follow up question:

liberal democratic japan, imperialist japan, or democratic socialist japan

>When Dwarves declare war on your fair Bretonnian vassal
What's the point?

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>>170566754
What the fuck do you think, get that co prosperity sphere running

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>>170566483
VENGEEEAAANCE

>>170566436
>>170566502
I have a standard state trooper+reiksguard+cannon army going in soon, but if they die I might try hellblasters/reiksguard spam with some shield screens and see if I can outdo them in the ranged game.

>>170566724
All 3 are my vassals.

>>170566789

he cons you and you lose not only a shit ton of money, but also the respect of your mom

>>170566976
>>170566793
banzai

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BEWARE
FOUL ELDRITCH DEEDS

>>170566789
ALWAYS
KILL
THE STONEMASON

Post results if you already picked anything else, I could use a hearty kek

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MAKIN ME ANGRY

>>170567186
DUN DIRT CHEAP

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>>170566754
>>170566954

as imperialist and undemocratic as that autism simulator will allow you to make it, chinks need a clear collective purpose and their individuality crushed lest they turn into a nation of anime-fappinglimp dicked schoolgirl-crossdressing faggots

>>170567253
I know anon, I kill everyone who comes at me in this game if I can

trust nobody

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Himyar anon here - made a quick summary of how the various parts of my empire were obtained

Black=Starting provinces
Red=Territory gained through wars (Axumite War, Garamantian War, 1st/2nd Sassanid War)
Blue=Territory gained through emergent rebellions encouraged by my magi
Green=Territory gained through emergent rebellions that I had no influence on

3rd Sassanid War coming soon

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WHEN

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Muh boi as Old Friend fucking when?

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Stop playing fantasy

>>170567338
This shit was a meme in my house for months, I nearly canceled Netflix.

>>170567796
Didn't CA say never ever?

>>170567487
I think you're generalizing based on a sample, japan still has a very humble and industrious caste of businessmen

>>170567860
CA says a lot of things anon.

>look up End Times lore
>both my favorite and second favorite dorfs get memed on by reddit rats
>some gay shit about Bretonnia suddenly dropping chivalry
>the only married couple in the setting dies multiple times
>Manny nukes the setting - it is then replaced by space marines and Sigmarfaggotry
What the fuck happened?

>only 0.2% of players complete legendary campaigns

Ok, some of you fucking faggots are LYING.

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>>170567860
TAKE IT BACK

Source?

>>170567981

40k became more popular and GW went full retard

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>>170567981
>What the fuck happened?

GW just wanted to axe Warhammer Fantasy and did it in an incompetent way.

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>>170567782
So how did you get the pink province?

>>170568321
Resettlement - It starts out razed

>>170568129
>40k became more popular
So they figured turning WHFB into 40k with vampires would make a killing? Fucking hell.

>>170567837
>hey guys, we didn't think Vlad & Isabella were enough so we're giving VC 6 legendary lords with 3 starting positions whilst empire only has 1!

I just finished my very first legendary in any total war and I honestly don't think I ever want to do that shit again. Doing it as Skarsnik probably didn't help either. I just wish there was an ironman save option without the difficulty attached.

general tips for starting with the fay enchantress? the bretonnia infantry sucks a lot of dick. also is there any reason to play as bordeleaux? alberic or whoever seems way worse than fay enchantress and leoun in terms of skill trees and faction-wide passives

>>170567838
this guy looks like Ryan Reynolds

>>170567981
Kids don't like cool fantasy landsknechts. Though, it seems unlikely that kids nowadays like huge pauldrons.

>>170567860
Source.

Woodelves need a third LL. I expect it.

We need an actual WOOD ELF to be a legendary lord for them, not a mutant or tree hitler.

>>170567487
>imperialist and undemocratic as that autism simulator will allow you to make it

Marxism-Leninism it is.

>>170568102
My last campaign was on Legendary, honest.

Can't say I finished it though.

>>170568142
Can we be honest? Age of Sigmar isn't bad. It just needs a few rule tweaks and it will be a fine, if simple table top game. What was fucked up is it wasn't a pocket universe. They could have had Age of Sigmar and eaten the Fantasy Battle Cake too.
>>170568479
40K fucking sucks. I play mostly Tau and Imperial Guardsmen and I've dropped out of my local scene ever since it turned into this
>Space Wolves verus Alpha Legion
>Space Wolves verus Salamanders
>Alpha Legion verus Adeptus Mechanics
>Then everyone cum dodges my Tau army (which doesn't even do the cheese shit like the Farsight death bomb, I take devil fish for god sake) and not wanting to play against Imperial Guardsmen because it would be a stomp.
Why play a game full of interesting alien races if everyone including the company are just going to masturbate to muh speeeeece maruuons.
I've wanted to pick up warmachine to fill its void is that any good?

>>170568747
>I just wish there was an ironman save option without the difficulty attached.
you could just... you know... not save other than when you're quitting?

>>170567981
>>170568479
>>170568129
GW is constantly 5-10 years behind the rest of the planet. They think that if they start to ape WoWs style and make their world more generic their IP will be more bankable.
Unfortunately even Blizzard is starting to give up on WoW and the changes GW made only served to remove what made the IP fun in the first place (historical references, British-style humour, etc)
To add insult to injury, WhFB vidya products are beginning to climb in popularity as Age of Shitmar miniatures rot on their shelves.

>>170568873
Only thing I'm worried about is CA's no DLC for DLC rule. Does that apply to FLC? I mean would the rule also apply to a free update to Wood Elves (not counting general updates that would include DLC factions obviously).

>>170568479
>>170568850

who would've thought that kids like power fantasies in bigass powerarmours more than floppy hats

>>170568651

i think CA won't do another vampire, or else people will hang somebody.

it's gonna be Todbringer, since they will need little to no effort to make Middenheim a playable faction

>>170568651
You're joking, but we all know the Old Friend is Krell - along with a Kemmler rework and subfaction.

>>170568102
I play Legendary but I never finish.
I never finished any TW campaign, in over 2k combined hours. It just gets boring.
Maybe in my next WRE legendary run.

>>170569191
this, only fools use ironmeme and lose their entire campaign to an inevitable bug or corruption.

make lots of saves, take your losses on the nose. it doesn't make any sense at all to use ironman features on long games and games prone to bugs.

>>170569158
>Age of Sigmar isn't bad.

As a game? I don't know. Haven't played it. As a setting? Godawful.

>>170569191
I tried that, but I'm a massive savescummer whenever a game allows it, I kind of need the game to limit that shit for me.

>>170569232
>i think CA won't do another vampire, or else people will hang somebody.

We're also at a point that the vamps are played out. Isabella is only interesting because of lore. She hardly added anything to the game. There are only so many lords you can add to one faction before they start suffering from redundancy. There's still no good reason to take one of the caster LLs for vamps because the melee focused ones can do the exact same thing with a slightly different army comp.

>>170569206

especially since (people will burn me at the stake for this) the 40K universe is not as nearly as good as the FB universe

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>>170568142
>>170569232
>bigass powerarmours

Is that really a trend these days though? Wouldn't kids think it's uncool because older people liked it and so on.

>>170568760
I only picked bordeleaux because I don't like starting with the best legendary lords.

Like they're meant to be the most privileged single person of their entire faction and they're just running around with a load of peasants.

Still has pretty good bonuses though, increased trade income and free xp for knights is better than aura size increase imo.

>>170569406
The biggest issues I have with age of Sigmar is they completely simplified the magic phase into the "hero" phase where everyone casts spells for free and you can't stop them. Some of the other stuff is alright like giving archers a once per game ability they can use to shoot 4 arrows per person so they can be useful.
I like some of the new looks of the armies (which is what actually matters to me) when I saw the lore was boring I just ignored it.

What race has the best MILFs?

>>170566619
>Wanting to do anything besides unite behind the one true emperor

When you hit a home run the first time you don't need to keep swinging.

>>170569616
thats not how kids think

>>170569672
Amazons.

>>170569672
Brets mostly because there is no competition.

Vamps if you count skeltals are kids.

>>170569592
I agree. The historical in-jokes really make WhFB for me.
40k has really gotten more and more retarded over the years, and not even a fun kind of retarded.

>>170569568

also CA has a big stiffy for Vamps

>>170569616

ultimate power fantasy Fallout franchise (especially 4), Halo etc.

>>170569226
It would be aids beyond measure if Beastmen and Wood Elves never got RoR, or more LLs. Beastmen would be greatly enhanced by adding Taurox and the Ghorgon. It's just so lazy that beastmen have a giant reskin instead of the Ghorgon.

I know for a fact I wouldn't have bought Beastmen if there wasn't the mod for the Doombull LL.

>>170569770
I guess. Does AOS and other GW games even attract kids? I have only seen "oldfags" playing it and buying it.

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>Red Duke beheaded
>Wounded

>>170568760
>general tips for starting with the fay enchantress?
Prepare for the most dreadful first 20 turns in Total Warhams.

>also is there any reason to play as bordeleaux?
Alberic is there to skyrocket your economy - or for people that like the blandest, least interesting LLs possible. In other words, no, not really.

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>>170568354
Game's crashed like 4 times trying to fight this battle, so fuck it I'll take the autoresolve.

Brussels goes back to the Flemish, and I'm gonna continue snapping up territories in the east of France.

>>170570017
>stitches, superglue, and some magic

What's the problem again?

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Only acceptable Old Friend

>>170569770
>>170569969
They are trying to, I was at the mall the other day and I saw AoS and 40k starter kits at a KB toys (traditionally a "kids toys" place if you are foreign.)

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Fall, 447. The 3rd Sassanid War begins with a large Himyarite offensive, intended to break the back of the Sassanids and their allies once and for all.

Sieges are prepared at the cities of
>Phra
>Abarshahr
>Susa
>Payttakaran
>Nicomedia

The forces designated to attack Melitine encounter a rebel force, and opt to delay their attack, hoping that the Sassanid forces stationed in the city will deal with the rebels themselves, and thus be weakened for when the Himyar engage them

The army sent to Duin engages a small force outside the walls of the city, hoping to draw the sizable garrison out into the field and destroy it

The main mediterranean fleet, bolstered by new warships built in the shipyards at Ephesus, moves to blockade the path south for any enemy fleets trying to leave Constantinopolis

>>170569963
>elspeth von draken
>riding a mother fucking DRAGON


tell me more about her

>>170570017
Learned from Vlad

>>170565926
Can anyone sum up the Prince of Altdorf novel? I hear that Teclis and the Advisor is in it.

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>turn 9 WRE
>killed off Quadians and most of the Alans, Visigoths, Ostrogoths and Suebi
>haven't lost any territory, and feeling like I'm starting to get control
>Huns show up on my doorstep

>>170570145
Go full Achaemenid, take caucasus kwarezm and thrace and everything in between but don't go into the steppe, just raze that.

>>170569930
I think it is inevitable that these first factions will lag behind the new ones that will be release with the next two games, but it would be ridiculous if the DLC factions lag even further behind because of this policy. I hope they aren't dumb enough to count free updates as DLC. Especially since that means Chaos is perma fucked.

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>>170570140
I took a pic apparently.

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>>170569616
Yes, but GW is always behind on trends.

In fact, the whole story of GW's relationship with video game developers reflects this fact perfectly. The GW CEO described video games as "a fad" and was reluctant to license any games because he was afraid it would eat into sales. Blizzard had originally licensed Warhammer to create a strategy game, but communication broke down so they decided to make "Warcraft" instead. A Warhammer MMO was to be released the same year as World of Warcraft (pic related), but GW cut funding before release and the company making it went bankrupt. GW has only now learned how to handle video game licensing. Sad.

>>170569963
I'd be ok with that. No idea who that is bottom right though.

i wanna fuck

>>170570487
Isabella's voice.

>>170570317
I have a little trust in CA at this point. They did a really good job with Bretonnia, so they deserve that much at least. I'd say every faction will get a few new units with the next game.

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>>170570085
I kept calling Bruge Brussels, my mistake.

In any case, Bruges is back in Flemish hands, they fucking love me, and now it's time to assault Nantes. We're so close to victory lads, I can taste it.

>>170570341
Why would anyone think of putting shit like Warhammer next to Thomas

>>170570380
>gw has only now lurned how to handle video game licensing

and yet they still sell the license to any stupid idiot on the market

>>170570380
GW is fucking retarded, they must be crying snot at all that lost fame and money

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Anybody want to play Medieval 2 Stainless Steel or Broken Crescent Online battles? I really want to try out the new rosters against humans rather then retarded AI.

>>170570380
>GW could have been the warcraft franchise
>they could have had the TFT gaming renaissance
>they could have had WoW money for 15 years
>WoW whales would probably have eaten up warhammer figures like they do virtual mounts

Lol, fucking dumbshits

>>170570260
that was my plan, the steppe territories are all razed and I can't be bothered to rebuild them all from scratch

>>170570341
Thank God you can't really see me in this shot, I'm pretty ugly.
>>170570380
>Most Ancient Lore
None of this was ever confirmed, but knowing what I know about the two companies I can believe it.

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O Europe, all of Spain has come together under the banner of Islam.

France is next.

/twg/, help me find motivation for a playthrough.

I started a Divide et Impera campaign as the Romans, I've never gotten beyond Marian reforms and never got into conflict with the Eastern factions, but once again I feel kind of bored shortly after reaching Marian reforms. It's just too easy after you beat Carthage, even on high difficulty, which is pretty high for Divide et Impera. My treasury is around 300k but I don't need any more armies and I haven't lost a battle yet.

I have been interested in a WRE legendary playthrough for Fall of the Eagles, the Roman units are great fun to play with if you restrict yourself from spamming palatina and I've had many fun legendary ERE campaigns, but the beginning of the WRE campaign seems so god damn tedious.

What should I do? All gsg games got boring as fuck with how many hours I put into them. M&T 2.0 when.

>>170570341
>WH figures right next to Thomas the Train Engine and other child/toddler toys

fucking lol, this would probably trigger the shit out of /tg/

>>170570756
You should take Italy next instead so that you have two fronts to pour armies into, and taking Rome will be a sure sign of the dominance of your faith.

>>170570216
Pretty good to other then no Molokh Slugtongue. Also I never want to see the brass bull in that game.

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>>170570756

>France is next.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours

>>170570547
Assholes, let me see if I can find the ad copy with the kids.

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>>170570756
dont you dare !

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>>170570756
God, don't you fucking LOVE it when France gets fucked in any way?

Will any more Warriors of Chaos respawn after I destroy them once Archaeon appears? I'm trying to hunt down the fucking brayherd of chaos.

>>170570547
because dont you know ? warhammer is a kid friendly universe !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du0emDgJ-L4

more realist version :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8TuA-o8pnw

>>170570564
>and yet they still sell the license to any stupid idiot on the market

Yes, they still haven't mastered it.

>there's a 40k chess game
>there's an Warhammer Fantasy angry birds clone

Disgusting.

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>turn 13
>Empire with a 2k army
>odds completely red
>complete rout via spirit leech sniping and morale hit spells
fucking hell the Von Carstein 3x Vargheist 1x Blood Knights 2x Vampire Hero start is broken
with the old vlad start this would've been a valiant defeat

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>>170571025

t. Perfidious Albion

>>170571025
Total War: Kaiserreich
when?

What if the old friend...Is halflings and an independent Moot?

>>170571218
Couldn't be worse than the HOYFOUR version looks.
I want an alternate history netflix show like man in the high castle but in the kaiserreich universe.

>>170571158

how'd do fellow kidz ?

it's a wonder that they didn't jump the ship and appealed to the Feminists that 40K needs female Space Marines

>>170571158
>Very expensive
>Very autistic
>Require lots of work and hard to play hobby
>For kids
GW is fucking rettarded

>>170571404
what i want to see is the face of the parents when they see the price of the starter pack

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>>170570872
Good idea. I look forward to forcing the Pope to embrace Islam.

>>170571310
>CA constantly utilitize /twg/ memes
>moot
>old friend
Fug, you got it.

>>170571567
> And the face of the kids when they open the box to find their new toy unassembled and unpainted.
Don't get me wrong I started WhFB around that age, but it was my Dads hobby first and he waited for me to take interest.

>>170571404
Battle sisters.

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Looks like Britain will be welcoming Islam soon as well.

>>170571609
M-M-Mon Dieu!

>>170571887
I got into 40k after having played DoW1 and having loved it, then discovered my local GW.
If I hadn't known about the universe beforehand, at that age, I would've told em to fuck off.

>>170571958

YOU EXPECT ME
A RENOWNED JOURNALIST
SHOULD DO SOME RESEARCH FOR HIS ARTICLES.
ARE YOU MAD?!

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>>170572039

On what difficulties do you have the most fun, /twg/?

>>170571609
Napoleonic mod for Bretonnia when?

(Or Bretonnia mod for Napoleon Total War. Either works.)

>>170571609
>>170572285

>a weapon to surpass Metal Gear

>>170572171
Ok so they are part of the church and not Space Marines proper they serve the same purpose.
Honestly I wouldn't mind more female characters I like playing as female factions. New amazons when.

>>170571609
>Reforming after cannongeddon took out the town you were fighting for, and 90% of your army.

That's a stiff upper lip right there, chaps.

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>Battle of Grunburg
>region: Wurtbad

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>>170570526
Nantes is ours, after some pretty wild losses. I simply don't have enough room to maneuver my boys around, and half my army got caught killing peasant crossbowmen as slowly as possible.

>fighting a losing siege defense against Kayoss
>game crashes
fucking why, let me lose in peace, i just need to kill as many of you faggots as possible

>>170572395

i was not making fun of you, just stating the ridiculousness of their retarded expectations.

Yeah just throw over our whole lore and consistency because we want to appeal to a group of maybe 5% of our fanbase.

thank god their filthy paws have no tight grip on Warhammer like they have on comics.

Also female factions are nice, except when they are mary sue's

>>170571972

>Caliphate
>Untrustworthy

Yeah, who woulda thunk it

>>170572497
The region is Wurtbad but the marker is closer to Grunburg in raw distance than the capital of Wurtbad region.

>>170572725
Here I made it fluff friendly.
A rogue faction steals one of the Gene shits space marines come from and use it to make ladies instead. Maybe we can have a long boring event to make this happen.

Anyone else feel like waay too many settlements are too close together?

It's kind of stupid that someone can be in their settlement and be in range to attack the neighbouring settlement in a single turn.

>>170570665
Just imagine the entire shift of the vidya game timeline if warcraft remained warhammer.

Would it even be as popular? Would it have gone all cartoony?
Would dota be entirely warhammery. Would WoW ever get made, leaving older style MMOs to flourish?

Just crazy. GW truly run by retards

>>170573037
I agree. The map is way too squished as it is.

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>>170572331
Hard currently because I'm both dumb and a scrub so I'm slowly trying to work my way up from Normal and hopefully one day I'll git gud and play Very Hard.
I'm bad at every game I play regardless of genre so I don't expect it though.

>>170566619
Squeaky wheel gets the grease.

>>170573037
If there's something i dislike it's the eternal grasslands, the fields buildings describe ample crops virtually everywhere in human territory but it's just fucking grass, give us farmlands like you could see in rome and medieval 2

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>Gobbo Archers

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>>170572596
Groningen is going down next, need that northern fish and all that.

No sign of the Scots, surprisingly. I thought they would start spawning after I got an event saying that they would, y'know, start spawning.

>>170573749
Leave the dutch alone ree

>>170570146
Her name is Elspeth von Draken, and she rides a motherfucking dragon. That's about it. She's an Amethyst Wizard.

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>>170570145
the battleplan at Duin works perfectly, and the large garrison is drawn outside of the city, where they are promptly destroyed. The city should fall shortly

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G O B L I N S

>>170573157
thinking about it now, they probably would have fucked up that timeline somehow, the idiots. frozen throne esports would have been seen as a threat to their "highly competitive" tabletop scene and WoWarhammer would have also been self-crippled for similar reasons, no doubt

>>170569226
No, it doesn't, considering they gave us Morghur as FLC.

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>>170574042
>all that camel benis

>>170573970
I thought the empire had only one dragon and it just sat around in the imperial zoo? What makes her such a bad bitch that some rando dragon lets her ride it?

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>>170574103
Awesome. Don't own beastmen so I wasn't aware he wasn't in the original release. Glad to hear it though. Thanks.

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Guys... How many weeks to new STUFF??

I'm starving already.

Ok I love the army composition and style of gameplay for Brettonia but FUCK the CONSTANT stream of events. EVERY fucking turn there's some new miserable event where both choices ruin some aspect of the faction for a whopping 10 turns.

Am I just unlucky or is this part of Brettonia? I'm not exaggerating, I'm only on turn 31 and I've had practically an event choice every turn.

It's getting TIRESOME.

Also what's up with all the different Brettonian factions practically hating each other when you start the campaign? I'm the foot lady for fuck's sake - aren't they all supposed to worship her? Instead I get told to fuck off when I want to trade with the other french faggots.

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Help me /twg/, I just assimilated Borisheim into the glorious Empire. Though when I happily scrolled through army list to find Boris he wasn't there and I cannot recruit him either. If he's not present during the conf, is he lost forever?

>>170574442
yes. load your autosave and wait if you want that extra LL.

>>170566619
>Bretonnia least played

How is this measured exactly?

>>170574378
desu the Bret campaigns feel really boring and railroaded.

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>WE IS GNOBBOS

ANCIENT EMPIRES WHEN

>>170574378

foot enchantress, since she's the only one of the 3 stooges that has little to no knights.

also bigger army = better diplomacy

>>170574442
Yes. If he's wounded as you attempt to confederate he won't be available. Reload the autosave and wait ~4 turns.

>>170574442
Why is he called Todbringer?

Does he introduce you to someone who tries to sell bad videogames?

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>First time battling Wood Elves
>Their archers can LITERALLY shoot you from half way across the map - they have the range of artillery.

What are you supposed to do? Every other faction I just toss my archers at their and call it a day. Not easy rushing them with cav either because the fucking elf archers run as fast as cav and their spear infantry always doubles back to fall on my cav for attacking their archers.

>>170575143
Tod is German (which the Empire is) for death.

>>170574782
How are they related to normal orc stomped gobbos? What are they key differences?

>>170575143
Empire is totally german and Tod means death in german. Mystery solved.

>>170575221
>>170575282
You guys are no fun

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>>170573749
>>170573909
Sorry mate, but we ARE the Dutch now.

>>170574513
They was released a week ago, of course less people started the campaign with them

>>170568102
I honestly hate Legendary

>>170570045
damn shame. should I even try fighting anyone other than the orc rebellion?

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Rock the boat!

>>170568102
>playing on Artificial Difficulty: The Difficulty
No thanks, I prefer the AI to not have massive handicaps.

>>170570115

The original raper of reddit rats and meme KANGZ.

>tw:w
>ranged units get faster reload times as they rank up
>rank 9 crossbowmen take just 7 seconds between volleys

maybe getting that ammunition/reload upgrade is better than honest steel

>>170575195
That is their artillery anon. AoK is all they have as a response other than rushing which is a no go for Welfs (aside from tree deathballs). Archers move fast, but most (all?) cav can chase them down though itdoes take longer than other skirmishers to be fair. What faction are you playing as?

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Halkarib, the kings son and the Supreme Commander of the Himyar forces, leads a combined land and naval assault on the city of Constantinopolis. The former ERE capital is the first province in Europe the Himyar have secured, and will serve as a building block for the empire into europe in the future. The reinforcing fleet moves into the black sea to chase down enemy fleets in the area

More on Halkarib
>King's son (not heir)
>Great traits/wife
>Came out of the gate with the ability to fight night battles
>Has second wind V and brace V
>His army is responsible for the capture of all the Sassanid's former anatolian cities

10/10 general

>>170575282
Smaller, weaker, less cunnin Gobbos that are hugely subservient to Ogres.

>>170568102
and of that 0.2% a decent portion would come from /vg/

>>170575662
If the option is there I always grab more ammo for any faction with non-shit-tier skirmishers. Range is really good in Warhammer in my experience. You don't even need to flank with them half the time since there are so many large units to each faction. Ammo is the only thing holding them back.

>>170566260
>trees at war with everyone

At least they no longer conquer bretonnia I guess

>>170574212
It's a Carmine Dragon, which is a breed highly associated with the wind of Shyish. Elspeth is strong enough of an Amethyst Wizard to obtain one, presumably.

>>170574347
Hoping for another lords pack

>>170575672
Brettonia.

>>170575804
Also they have big noses

>>170576051
They've taken carcasonne and parravon in that pic, presumably already sacrificed Cassyon and bae enchantress in some grisly forest ritual. Bretonnia is well on its way to being annexed.

any mods that prevent vassals from breaking away

>>170575804
What? I though they were bigger and stronger. So you're telling that you can actually go down from the point of a regular goblin? That's actually kinda impressive.

>>170576520
Ogres like them basically as pets. There kinda like those shitty Lemurs people get. Honey bears? But used for war.

>>170576104
Heavy cav shits on Welfs infantry though obviously the spears aren't a fair trade. Squires should deal with the spears pretty easy if I'm not forgetting my statlines completely. Trying to out skirmish the skirmishing faction is a recipe for disaster though. Yeah, have a few bows for sniping, but you shouldn't waste slots on a unit the Welfs can rape with a single volley.

It's a tricky fight to be fair, but armor and cav is the rule of thumb vs Welfs (AI at least). If it makes you feel any better, I'm playing a Welf campaign to fight the new Brets and the heavy cav (fuck Grail Guardians) makes me want to sudoku.

>>170576493

Push their shit in. Either they fall in line again or they are eliminated.

Has anyone done one of these for all the elf factions?

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>>170575318
The Black Prince stocks up on mercs and heads toward Chalons. If we take Champagne here, we create a small pocket of 3 or so provinces, all waiting to be gobbled up. I just have to make sure Paris isn't susceptible to attack while BP is gone.

Who is the stronger hero? Vlad or Manny?

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>>170576945
Ah!! Hark!! The Scots are back, and I am ready!! Get your fingers ready ladies and gents to count the 4th destruction of the Scottish nation and all their abominable habits!!

What are the obligatory vampire spells?

why does making the red duke a vassal of bretonnia feel so good?

i just ordered him to go kill some rebels that popped up in my domain

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>>170577150
Agen is taken, the Scots are coming, the French are useless, Chalons is capped by the BP, I need 15 provinces to win.

>>170577546
DANSE MACABRE

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>>170574042
the plan at melitine goes wrong however, and the army is forced to besiege the city in the middle of winter, hoping that they can capture the town before reinforcements arrive. Unfortunately, Sassanid armies from the north have braved the cold in order to reinforce their besieged bretheren, and the army at Melitine is forced to prepare for battle in the midst of winter

The men are not prepared for such cold weather, and many have been suffering from frostbite. The sooner this battle can be won, and the siege completed, the better

>>170577725
on that topic. how far will a vassal or ally go to attack a coop target? can you just send them on crusades across the map?

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S O B B O G

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>strong vs. a single combatant
>weak vs. a single unit

What did they mean by this? It's SFO so offensive magic is good and useful but I've never used final transmutation, is it for single target sniping or area damage?

>>170577546
Overcast Invocation of Nehek is the only truly obligatory vampire spell. The rest is for the shits and giggles really.

>>170577995
Single combatant = lord/hero
Single unit = group of soldiers

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>woodelves are a DLC that costs one billion dollars
>dont have any retinue
>don't get unique responces on the diplomacy screen from other factions

>brettonia is an FLC
>retinues
>one million unique traits
>unique voices in diplomacy

praize ze lady desu lads

>>170577995
>>170578059
In other words, that spell deals lets say 100 damage

On a unit of 10 models, thats 10 damage each

On a single lord, thats 100 damage

>>170571609
the part where the whole town gets vaporized will never be unfunny

>>170577995
single UNIT = single unit of troops
single COMBATANT = single character

I have all the DLC for total warhammer
I've put 40 hours into it
I've never played more than a few hours of a campaign
someone tell me what the most fun campaign is. Lots of quests is a plus

>>170567838
attila looks much better than warhammer, probably the reason it runs like shit, CA is a cheeky bunch, they claim they optimised the engine for warhammer, while in reality they simply significantly lowered army sizes and decreased graphics quality

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Who /sexy/ here?

>>170567838
Na

History is boring as shit, or at least, the form that CA presents history is boring as shit.

If we get a history game that for once actually has unique factions, then history may be okay.

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You guys are the best general on this fucking board
After the awful experience modding in /gsg/ this is a breath of freshest air since kc/int strat game threads back in 2011
Good shit lads, keep the thread nice and clean

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caption this

>>170578110
Brets are the lube to the incoming DLC train thats going at dick ramming speed

People are going to be pissed when they realized the next standalone expansion is the same price as the normal game but only 3 factions

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>>170577780
So after giving them a solid fucking thrashing, there's no way the French are gonna buy this, right?

What other mini campaigns would you like to see?

>>170578592
>My face cost the same as 15 jabberslythes

>>170578771
if they stay the way they are now - none. They need to go back to having multiple playable factions and actually interesting scenarios if they want people to play them for more than the playthrough required for boris/the red duke.

>>170578771
None

Stop wasting time on shit like 5% of the playerbase completes and make the main campaign bigger. And also faster, fuck is the wait for all the fun factions tedious, this isnt a real Warhammer game until Skaven, Lizards and Tombs get in.

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>>170578706
hahaha what the fuck guys

12 away

>>170575029

This is no longer correct. Wounded Legendary Lords still join your recruitment pool, but they stay wounded until they would've otherwise been healed.

Literally just had this happen with Boris yesterday.

>>170578771
more chivalry. a crusade one would be cool

more franz because hes great

more dawi since Warhammer has the best dwarves in all of fantasy

1-3 Continue my VC campaign
4-6 Start a Balthasar Gelt +10 campaign (is the bonus as good as it sounds on paper?)
7-9 Start a Greenskin campaign as the Biggest Blackest Orc Grimgor
-0- Start a GOBBO campaign

>>170578771
Considering the Mini-Campaigns are trash compared to all the Historical Mini-Campaigns with multiple playable perspectives?

Preferably, none. The only thing they should do is add more mini-campaigns that take place on the GC map such as Skarsnik/Belegar's race to Eight Peaks.

>>170579098
>The only thing they should do is add more mini-campaigns that take place on the GC map such as Skarsnik/Belegar's race to Eight Peaks.
This would be way more interesting, instead of doing separated mini campaigns that have no impact on anything putting in minicampaigns that shape the campaign map would be good.

>>170577546
Wind of death.

That shit can literally destroy half an army and cause a rout instantly.

>>170579026

(is the bonus as good as it sounds on paper?)

It's not particularly noticeable imo. The buffs to lore of metal on the other hand make a very noticeable difference. Plague of Rust is a fucking death sentence now.

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I fucking love Gelt with SFO, he generates magic like it's his job, and I think I'm actually going mad with power. The larger winds of magic pool actually allows you to do some real wizardly shit all at once if needed.

I just overcasted a glittering robe over the army before the clash, overcasted a 15 second transmutation on the necromancer, and am seriously considering overcasting a 26 second gehenna's golden hounds into the front line here, RNGesus have mercy on our souls.

How did CA fuck up magic so badly?

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>>170578592
the sassanid reinforcements, in their rush to join the main battle before it is too late, have left their artillery unguarded

a fatal errror

>>170579421
CA has never done magic before, and while magic is powerful as fuck in TB its a fine line between useful and broken ingame.

I think the things that really need a buff are the massive damage dealers like the comet and the foot. They should get a huge knockback so it splits armies apart

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>>170578951
Oh, shit. I finally caught up with the cocksucking Scots and, uh, they're pretty scary looking.

>>170578592
Hey pigfucker, stop touching me with your shield.

>>170579421

You can do a fuck load of spell casting in a vanilla campaign too with the right followers. With the buffed staff of volans and some heroes to stack hedge / apprentice wizards you can easily get near 150 winds to throw around in a battle.

Proper Combat or Steel Faith?

>>170579373

Oh shit Lore of Metal got a buff? I didn't know that? Are the direct damage spells worth it now or is it all in the buffing magic?

Hopefully in the future before the expansion the Empire gets some new campaign mechanics and the lords get some makeovers.

>142 turns later, the wood elves still havent confederated even though chaos is fucking up the world
>Last campaign they still confederated in back-to-back turns
Fucking elves

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>>170577835
Our army endures, the Sassanids are repelled. The siege continues

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>>170579421
The final transmutation was probably the most disappointing, only took half the necromancer's health or about 2200 hp.

Overcasting the golden hounds summons an extra vortex, both absolutely tore apart the casting site before splitting up. One did the usual thing and went off in a completely useless direction but the other has run a circle through the enemy blob and stayed right on target the whole time.

Glittering robe is still great as usual, allowed state troopers to hold firm against a graveguard/crypt fiend spam for a huge duration of the fight.

I don't think anything can really fix searing doom but it does feel a little better. Still disappointed that the "fuck anything up" spell from tabletop is such a joke now.

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>>170579664
>inb4 SCOOOTLAAAND/FREEEDOOOM kiltfags

get blown the fuck out you scottish fuckheads

>>170580716
searing doom needs to give off an armor sundering debuff to any unit hit by it

>>170578348
bump

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>>170580787
Back down south, there's nothing like leaving the surprise attack on the Breton capital to a complete and utter madman, right?

Is there anyone that's been on board with TW:W since the start that isn't expecting to lay down however much we've spent on base game + DLC another two times?

It's pretty obvious that's whats gonna be happening. but when it gets released there'll be another shit storm over it.

I welcome the opportunity to pay our CA overlords

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Terror makes this fight impossible right?

>>170575572
AI retardation is not enough of an advantage for you?

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>>170580381
The men barely have time to rest before word comes in from the scouts - a second Sassanid force has come to try and relieve the siege! The Sassanids clearly want to break the offensive at Melitine. Although you have to wonder why the AI sent its forces in 2 seperate groups, instead of just overwhelming me with the entirety of their army

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>>170581016
In this corner, Nantes is being attacked by what can only be described as a hobo army. Welp, time to go king killin!

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>>170568102
I wont have my honor besmirched

The reason why people dont bother to complete legendary is because its so fucking boring. End game TW is always boring as shit.

8 or 10 building slots for every capital?

>>170581078
I expected it because I assumed we would be getting three games rather than three expansions. It's not like FotS where they are mostly reworking assets already in the game and adding a few new mechanics. The next two Warhammers should have completely new maps and factions with fresh rosters.

So as long as we get a similar amount of content as the first one had at release, I'll be fine with paying a similar price. Just no more Chaos DLC type bullshit please. Oh, and don't make me buy blood three times. There's greed and than there's murdering a hobo on the street because he might have a few pennies in that cup.

How do I git gud at Attila?

>>170581078
It's worlds cheaper than buying overpriced figurines and paints, but I still feel bad paying 18.99 for a fucking faction.

Used to be 20 bucks would get you a full expansion.

>>170566619
Calling it. "Old Friend" will be accompanied by a vanilla "remastered" patch buffing vanilla lords to DLC tier and changing starting positions for the vanilla lords.

>>170581078
I own ~25,000 points of WHFB minis. Disposable income lost all meaning about a decade ago.

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>>170581226
The reinforcing spearmen don't realize that their artillery has been ambushed until it is too late

Why are winter battles so fucking comfy

>>170581403
learn to use your cavalry effectively - the better you are with your cav in attila the better your battles will go - no matter who you are playing as

>>170581403
Pick a province and make it your military province, do nothing in it but military buildings
Pick a different one for food, do nothing but food until you have 0/+1 food
Do every other province for money
Pikemen are OP
Crossbows are OP
10 pike and a few ranged units can stop any 40 stack army in a town fight
Migrate to Spain for easy modo, its the best region by a mile

>confederate with Mannlet after crushing him in a war
>got a second Devils of Swartzhafen unit out of the single necromancer army he had that survived (total army size: 3)
>Also he had all 3 LL's unlocked
neat
Isabella's army is going to be ridiculous

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Okay what the actual fuck /vg/, did they really make Orion look ugly as fuck in the diplomatic screen just to avoid Mel Gibson comparisons?

Orion looks fucking atrocious in the diplomatic menu now, I don't remember him being nearly this ugly before. Looks like they just scrunched his face up a bunch.

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Playing Crooked Moon, is there any reason not to make Skulkers my main infantry unit and dump fanatics/gobbo spears completely?

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>>170581910
forgot pic

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>>170581264
Whoops! Didn't manage an end of battle screenshot but basically the king is dead, the hobo army is destroyed, and my surprise stack is moving in on their castle soon.

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>>170565926
>well this should be an easy autores...

>>170582062
>play coop with friend
>he loves gobbos
>but sucks absolute shit at them
>never takes my advice on anything
>does nothing but build spears
>tries to win by auto resolving with 40 stacks of spears, and loses anyway
>50 turns and he couldnt take the first province
>did my own campaign to see if it was hard to take the province
>did it in 22 on legendary

No, there is absolutely no fucking reason to EVER use those shitty spear units. Skulkers are pretty good as long as you keep them near your lord. Dont ditch the fanatics though.

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Goblin Dabbing

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>>170582169
SCOTS GO HOME

>>170582223

>that greentext

Wew lad.

Yeah, I dropped them when I noticed they don't even have a bonus against large. How do I use Night Gobbos anyway? Mainline or flankers?

>>170581875

This is retard. I hope you god you don't do this nigger.

>Yes make a couple of provinces your military provinces
>place in areas with strategic resources
>Take off taxation for the province
>Solve food issues first, since local food production being too low will cause public order malus
>Proceed to make all the rest of your provinces balanced in public order
>Focus on getting your safest areas in the green
>Develop your governor provinces economy as much as possible
>Then sprinkle economic upgrades every else

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>>170581861
Rumha Warriors are very effective at screening our front line

>>170582252
If you don't switch your caption to "gonna dab em" im gonna report you

>>170566619
because empire is where the true total war fags flock to.

>has every kind of infantry
>every kind of ranged weapon
>large amounts of artillery
>excellent cavalry
>strong magic and lords
they're literally best faction purely from a total war perspective.

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Torgovann elves came up out of the blue and told us we're cool, white peaced and fucked off to continue slaughtering bretonnians.

Hitler said fuck that noise and can't be appeased by any means, so we rode out to Montfort to reclaim our village.

Turns out elves are fucking cheaters and moved in a full strength garrison the turn they took the village.

We used all our movement points to move in on them.

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>>170582364
>making scots fight scots

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salve citizens

updated my campaign history

>>170582880
>Turns out elves are fucking cheaters and moved in a full strength garrison the turn they took the village.

To be honest family, it makes sense like this actually. They aren't actually deploying a proper garrison, but a detachment to patrol the area and keep it clear of trespassers.

>>170582694

Empire's worst units actually are their infantry surprisingly. Their cav is also shit early, but gets amazing with Demis. Their artillery has a bunch of options, so that's great.

But magic though? 10/10. You select a mage to fit the army comp and watch them destroy. Like a grey wizard to deal with vamp cunts fliers.

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>>170582364
Alright, so I managed to destroy this Scottish army and I executed the troops, but no "Faction Destroyed" message. this does not bode well.

>>170582913
Every Englishman knows, you can always turn to the mortal enemy of the Scots to help - that enemy being other Scots.

also, what a brilliant fucking gif

>>170583029
someone post the antiochus memes, it's been far too long.

>>170583384
I wonder if the Scots pop up in the same place every time. would they show up in Ireland if I hadn't taken it? I wonder if I let them just take Dublin and make peace with them, will they sit on their shitty rock for the rest of the campaign and not bug me?

>>170583459
BULLY NOT SO TOUGH AFTER BEING RAPED

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>>170582526
the 2nd battle is won and the siege continues

Jadhima and his army killed 6 different enemy generals during the 2 battles - as a result he will be promoted the "Master of Horse" office

>>170582371
>How do I use Night Gobbos anyway? Mainline or flankers?
I have no idea, they just work

Usually I try to get them to flank

>>170582410
Ill take my 5 legendary completion campaigns over your horrid fucking advice thanks

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>>170583623
oooh, that mistake cost me two minutes ;_; here's the pic

What determines what wizard lores are available each turn? I'm close to finishing a 150 turn empire campaign and I never had a single light wizard avaiable to recruit
Same goes for Chaos, what determines how much they attack you with? On Hard they threw a fuckton of goons at me before Archaon showed up and when he finally did all he brought along was himself and Sarthorael

>>170583725
>>170582371
Nah, just charge with them first in the enemy blob, use the fanatic ability and hope it does a ton of damage.

>>170583718
>despite his victory another sassanid army is reinforcing melitine
>Jadhima decides that instead of facing them on the field like the other armies before, he will just sneak into the now basically unguarded melitine and take the city from right under the sassanid's noses

What a fucking legend - I'm pretty sure this guy just defeated every army the sissynids had left

>>170583830

>Let me run up a negative food in a region
>-9 public order

??

>>170584014
Literally irrelevant penalty

Please learn how to play before you post

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>>170583843
The Scots move oh so close to Dublin, but in the mean time Augustin slips thru to Brittany. Don't mind us guys, just taking your capital and only region in which you can actually recruit troops.

>>170584321
THIS IS MY BAIT

IT WAS MADE FOR ME

>fight undead with undead
>empty all my magic, kill their lord
>their soldiers never ever EVER crumble and just go on and on until i am grinded down to death
explain this shit

>>170581339
I'll say 8 because 10 is just unnecessary as you will quickly run out of things to build with 10 slots.

>>170584396
No you're just retarded if you think -9 from food is an issue when you can afford to have a 20 stack in every single province

>>170584435
Killing lord applies a leadership penalty but they still need to "rout" to crumble.

>>170584635
yeah, but they just never do, if they have half a unit of skeletons they can stall 5 full units of skeletons and just fight like that for 10 minutes or more, and then they just slowly grind down everything and i lose.

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>>170584362
Bing bang bong lets take Brest from the Britons and end this campaign!

>>170584768
Most likely due to your difficulty setting. Enemy forces get huge leadership buff increasing with battle (not campaign) difficulty.

>>170584768
If you're not playing on normal; turn the combat difficulty to normal

You know the enemy get combat buffs right?

>>170584792
God bless my angevin friend.

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>that feet enchantress slight reskin

muh fucking chivalrous dick! praise the lady.

>>170584885
>>170584895
campaign and battle was on hard, i was fresh out of a bretonnia campaign where it went fine, but appareantly leadership is god with vampire cunts.

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>This is all that is left of the former Sassanid empire

>>170585501
Good.

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>>170585501
>>170585651
>sassanids

>>170585047
>battle was on hard
Turn it to normal, no one plays it on hard/vh/L

>>170585882
You don't have a choice when playing legendary.

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>>170585501
The sassanids themselves are gone, but the war is not yet over - the city of Kath, in the far east - still remains defiant. They are the last holdout of the former eastern power, and many Sassanian nobles have fled to the city

>>170585929

Very hard battles are pretty balanced, teachs you to take care of their archers and anvil.

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>>170584792
Another 2 tier fortress, another general dead, another step closer to a different campaign.