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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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SMT HD Game and 3DS game planned in the works:
http://shin-megamitensei.jp/

SMT HD Project teased at Nintendo Switch Presentation:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALfkAh4iZ6o

Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

Previous thread: >>170016986
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Reminder SMT V's MC will be a tomboy.
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>>170521230
Great, another series I'll lose interest in.
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>>170521264
Good, I don't want you playing my dad Kaneko's games.
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>>170521295
>Kaneko's games
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>>170521440
Stop posting.
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I wanna cum inside Toki's barely fertile cunny, impregnating her, and abandon her to raise the child by herself!
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SMT mobile game when? I want my very own demon summoning program.
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>>170512190
RESPOND!


RESPOND RIGHT FUCKING NOW!
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I'm playing Nocturne and I want to fuse the best Cerberus possible you can get without having too many levels above him.
Do you have any advice?
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You don't level up in Strange Journey.

Your suit does.
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So, do the DDS games count as affliates to the mainline like SJ does?
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>>170525023
>Not taking the Shining Brilliance into consideration
Levels don't mean anything, bud
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Strange Journey is
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gay
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>>170521163
Posting best boy.
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>>170525392
No
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>>170522942
it doesnt rely on your level but rather on your progress in the story, it becomes available at 7/8
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>True YHVH

What the fuck am I supposed to do? He uses Supernova and wipes both teams.
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Maitreya looks like Matsuko Deluxe
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>>170534503
>this Son of Man
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>>170534503
I had to fuse some better demons and grind on twisted tokyo when I got to this part. Basically, make sure to have covered weaknesses (so he doesn't smirk), preferably with good hp (problem is these will tend to have weaknesses), have some demons that null/repel phys for good measure, and someone with dekaja/dekunda/Silent Prayer/magaon. Then use Flynn to give him a weakness.
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>>170534503
I had Shiva with imposing stance and Krishna with Healing knowhow and Magaon, he's not too dangerous with only 2 press turns

The other team is expendable after Flynn pulls a weakness you can exploit
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Is Mephisto's Growing Hate almighty skill any good? Thinking of swapping it out with Salvation or something
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Is Attack All + Drain Attack any good?
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>>170536756
Which game?
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>>170536756
If DeSu, no. Attack all sucks, you could be doing way more damage with multistrike. If you're playing vanilla desu, don't even bother with physical demons
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i just learned you faggots organized a group fap sesh?

is that true? lmao jesus christ you guys
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>>170537269
>mad that he wasn't invited
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>>170537312
yes
nah but like legit? was this recent?
im really not judging i just think its really fuckin funny
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>>170536864
SMT III
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>>170537269
A few years ago on Valentines.
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>>170537365
It was just a few people sending sad panda links to each other.
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>>170537372
oh brilliant, love it
i havent been coming here that long desu

i hope it was enjoyable and shame free

>>170537483
thats not even an organized group fap then
i do that with friends because we're degenerates
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>>170537269
>there are people in this general who are still not in the skype group chat
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>>170537621
you people still use skype?

fuck that

get a discord then ill be upset about being excluded
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>>170537710
Someone spammed a discord for some time despite its negative reception, while someone also spammed anti-discord posts, and I guess like 5 losers joined there anyway.

The true experience is in this general though; making chat groups based on an image board community, based on a single player game series is pretty stupid.
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>>170538468
>making chat groups based on an image board community, based on a single player game series is pretty stupid.

yeah i feel you
i also dont get making visiting a general a daily thing you do

i pop in here every now and then to see what everyone has to say, and join in if its fun

but some generals (yall not as much as say, xivg) are just... bizarre because everyone lives there, has their own weird community that hates each other, etc...
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>>170521264
You'll lose interest because the protagonist is a different gender for once? Why?
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>>170538710
/vg/ is like hell, and every general is like a different circle of it.

This place is mostly like purgatory, so I find it comfy here.
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>>170539378
/smtg/ in the middle trying to summon a demon waifu.
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>>170539378
this place is pretty comfy, i do love that about it

>>170539673
god that image is old
still accurate thought
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>>170539025
Tomboys are SJW garbage.
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>>170539821
Let me guess, you hated Nanashi because of his "SJW haircut" too, right? Kill yourself onegai.
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>>170539821
Tomboys are cute anon
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>>170521230
>average consumer are chuuni men and fujoshi
doubt that.
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>>170539908
No, Nanashi is a guy, so it was fine.

>>170539939
Gross.
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>>170540938
>No, Nanashi is a guy, so it was fine.
What a fucking homo.
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>>170540990
>being in /smtg/
>not liking dick
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>>170541083
Is that a fucking Mara reference?
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>>170539908
nanashi's hair isn't pink or blue though
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>>170541209
Are you new?
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>>170543626
No, I was in the skype masturbation session.
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>>170539821
How could one man be so wrong?
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>>170544693
Shit taste. Only elegant girls are good.
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we /pg/ now
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>>170546693
Reminder that big breasts are inelegant, only small breasted girls can be elegant
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SMT crossover fighting game when?

SMT I Protagonist:
>focus on sword combat
>different swords for his moveset, pretty conventional
>no magic beyond elemental slashes

Aleph:
>gun based combat
>uses a sword but not a lot of emphasis
>much more gentle and Jesus-like in his movement than SMT I Protag

Demi-fiend:
>punch everyone in the face, demon like moves
>big ass spells for ranged
>can change Magatama for different abilities

Flynn:
>sword based, with a side of magic
>his magic is more controlled than the Demifiend's, to show he's a human
>Masakado helps in some attacks

Nanashi:
>like Flynn, but instead of sword based, gun based
>gets support from Dagda and his friends, very gay moveset

Doomguy (SJ):
>several different guns, full on rip and tear
>much more military style, no anime gay stuff
>different bullets mimicking his skills, no magic
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>>170539908
Not him, but I do hate hearing nanashi's grunt when he attacks. Something about it just sounds weak. I wish it was more authoritative and impactful
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>>170547536
I feel like the SJguy would be the faggiest character of the bunch.
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>>170521230
This >>170521264 I don't want no girl protagonist. I could barely tolerate it in P3
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>>170548465
he's fucking 15
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>>170548718
Puberty starts at like, 10, mang

Besides, he's got some attack SFX that dont sound wimpy, it's just that he's got a couple that do and you can't avoid them
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When can we have a REAL male protagonist? Not a sissy high schooler with noodle arms and a flat chest
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>>170549390
you're free to stick to wrpgs if that bugs you
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>>170549390
Doomguy's a true blue American.

Coincidentally he's also the absolute shittiest powerlevelwise.
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Hoy
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>>170549390
nah only homos like ripped guys
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>>170548714
>doesn't like girl protagonists
>played P3P
Shit taste after shit taste. Every time.
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>>170549390
Flynn is the manliest
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http://atlus.com/caligulaeffect/

Satomi Tadashi's new game. Framerate looks like shit, but from what I've heard it's pretty good otherwise.
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>>170556739
we only care for fujo devs around here
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idfp8z-zdTs
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>>170537621
>skype group chat
What?
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>>170557535
Don't worry about it.
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>>170548658
Fuck you. He's the least effeminate and what not of all of Kanako's designed MCs.

>>170547536
Speesh Marine/Tadano has a sword too.

>>170549572
Not here to start power level shit arguments but that really isn't true.
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>>170557703
Was it fun?
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>>170557734
>but that really isn't true.
He's a bitchboy only worth anything because of the suit he was stuffed into.
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>>170557734
>Fuck you. He's the least effeminate and what not of all of Kanako's designed MCs.
this, he's not some japanese teenager therefore he has an actual jaw line
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>>170557991
Then why does Mem Aleph explicitly state his strength is what stopped her? Why does she freak out about his power? Why does Lucifer talk about how special he is? Why does Gore and Arthur for that matter?

>because of the suit he was stuffed into
He survived against demons that other members part of the Strike Team with Demon Summoning Program and same armor as he has didn't. So your wrong there.
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>>170547536
I'd be down for that but then I'd still rather just have an SMT crossover normal.
At the very least an SRPG one so that I could run full humans and go to town on Demons.
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>>170557991
He can't be a bitchboy when Gore and Arthur both repeat that Speesh Marine is the lynchpin for saving the human race and stopping the Schwarzwelt from wiping out the Earth and restarting everything.

Yeah he has a special combat armor, but remember, that didnt' do JACK SHIT for the soldiers on the Investigation Team the UN sent before they got the Demon Summoning Program from the Three Wise Men. Remember the start of the game after entering the Schwarzwelt? A lot of soldiers get wiped out despite their armors, guns, and tech because they can't even comprehend demons without it so their immune to their damage.

DeSu 1 and 2 protags can't do jackshit without Comps having the Demon Summoning Program either. Same with the first SMT MC and early on with Aleph as well.
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>>170557734
But zoners are gay. No exceptions.
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>>170558459
>zoners
???
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>>170558230
Apocalypse had a crossover. A fighting game is the best for crossovers because you can show the full power of characters and still have it balanced.
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>>170558505
If someone fights with guns and bullets, you can be sure as fuck that the character will be a zoner.

This is pertaining the "SMT fighting game" post.
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>>170558327
>DeSu 1 and 2 protags can't do jackshit without Comps having the Demon Summoning Program either
They beat a bunch of demons at the start of the game with no equipment/COMPs though. And after a few level ups they can do fine without demons, or at least fine enough to beat that old fart for sure.
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>>170547536
This would be so cool. Hell they could make a SMT x Persona game and actually include Persona 1 and 2 characters as well.
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>>170558617
But SMT Doomguy uses a sword too? IIRC been awhile but I believe you can equip both a ranged weapon and a melee weapon on SJ protag. Best sword he gets is the "Sword of Heaven" after beating up the Whore of Babylon Fiend.

>>170558719
Schwarzwelt is the home of demon kind and its stated its them at their true power according to a bunch of demons who are friendly to the protagonists. Also no, wrong, DeSu 1 protags literally confirm it was because of the comps they weren't killed by demons, all who were also low level ones at that, replaying the game right now.

End of the game Mem Aleph can literally remove all the demons from your party and like >>170558327 said, she even confirms you beat her on your own fluff wise.
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>>170558615
SRPGS can do the same thing though and you get the added benefit of not having Persona 4 Arena again.
While Arena was fine, you just know that it'll be impossible to incorporate the demons into a fighting game.
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>>170558719
Yuzu, Atsuro and Abel all had Comps with DSP installed it from Naoya at the start of Devil Survivor 1.
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>>170558879
>>170559023
But I thought the DSP didn't activate until they beat the demons and made a contract with them? I remember Atsuro couldn't hack into the COMP. It's been awhile since I played it so forgive me if I'm wrong.
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>>170559023
*installed on it
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>>170558719
>a bunch
They each beat a low level demon, and almost die from it
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>>170559130
Atsuro states the reason they survived attacks that would've killed normal people was because of the Comps. The DSP was already on them, just not "awakened" until they survived the demons in Day 1. And even then they nearly died.

People are shitting on Speesh marine pretty hard for no reason here.
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>>170559268
Well, from a gameplay point of view he pretty much becomes an item dispenser since demons are a lot more useful than him. In most SMT games the MC ends up becoming the most powerful party member so it's no surprise people don't think highly of him when it comes to power levels.
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>Space muhrine is such a bitch boy he needs either Gore's powers or the help of a Russian woman to weaken Mem Aleph in order to beat her
Strange Journalists will defend this
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>>170559628
So is Abel and Autism Bunny. Doesn't matter, because as long as you got a AGI, MAG, or STR build protag with late game-gear the "vending machine" meme stops being a thing.

>>170559632
Gore just gives the protagonist his final power up. By the same token the Demi-Fiend is a bitch because he ain't shit without his Magatamas. Or Abel without the Comp before becoming the Demon King, hell Metatron gets OHKD'd by the Demiurge while he beats him up. Also Neutral route > either Chaos or Law route so here's the (You).
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>>170559632
Hitoshura isn't jackshit even at the start of the game. Its only because Lucifer turns him into a half-demon that he's able to do the shit that's so crazy lore and game wise.

>SMT 1 MC = normal human
>SMT SJ MC = normal human
>DeSu 1 protag = normal human
>DeSu 2 protag = normal human
>Raidou = normal human

Also Nanashi(t) can't do jackshit without Dagda being his batteries. Aleph and Demi-Fiend are exceptions because one was designed to kill Ed Bighead and the other was Lucifer's demon version of Aleph.
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>>170559632
>Nanashi needs friend(s), the mc from the previous game, Satan and Dagda reviving him when he dies to defeat yhvh
hmm. makes you observe
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>Muh mature protagonist for mature people such as myself faggots starting up ANOTHER power level discussion
Every time.
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>>170559632
Nanshit or Flynn are literally confirmed to be so bad one of the bosses you fight says he's killed them like 5 times before lol.
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>>170559825
>Neutral route either Chaos or Law
>bu-but in DeSu Muh King of Demons ending is 'canon'
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>>170560460
Just saiyan even he needed a ton of help at the start of game with tech to survive daymons.

>>170560363
Blame this on the guy hating on on SJ protag.
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>People still think the white were referring to the number of lives Flynn had before and not the number of cycles humanity been through in gnosticism
Top kek
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>>170560702
>gnosticism
Demiurge pls go.
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>>170560194
this, orginal akira can't even defeat the archangels with backup
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>>170560363
but he has a square jaw!
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P5 on PS3 and not PS4. Good or bad idea?

I'm poor.
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>>170561287
The resolution and framerate are worse I think but at least you can play it. It's a RPG anyway.
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>>170561287
you're holding back gaming, like 3DS owners
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>>170560460
I'm glad we got delicious brown Krishna in the end.
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>>170561549
Dumb fujo
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>>170561478
>PS4 owner
>talking about anyone holding back gaming
Talk to me when you have over 1000 games in your library.
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>>170561478
>>170561934
>>>/v/
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>>170561994
>he's mad
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So are these the official powerlevels? I haven't played all of the games
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>>170563452
Nanashi is also a demon being to an extent, no?
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>>170563742
He stops being a demon at the end of the game right?
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>You get emailed a demon summoning program along with the note "Install this on your cell phone"

What do you do?
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>>170565460
I cry because my phone is shit and wouldn't be able to run it
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>>170565460
>installing closed source software
Shiggy
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>>170565995
>tfw open source demon summoning app can only summon jack bros
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>>170565460
grind for setanta, get demon husbando
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>>170566210
>Run FOSS demon summoning app
>yfw this thing shows up
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>>170566489
>this thing shows up too
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>>170566623
Literally belial
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>>170565460
Become a demon pimp
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>>170567076
You gotta fuse me with a hot chick.
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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

I have indeed posted it.
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>>170563742
Nanashit more like it.
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>>170568410
no mt2 no vote
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>>170539673
Just imagine all the flamewars those guys must have while shouting at each other and bragging that their barren pit is better than the others.

It is also eerily similar to pic related.
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>>170563452
I beg to differ.
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>>170566623
So the Demikids story would happen?
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>Toki lust urn in jpn undub
My. Dick.
No shit, she was just going to be a character I didnt like but when that part came.. so did I.
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>>170565460
>fighting demons
>fingers get smeared with blood, dirt or ooze
>die because I can't use my smartphone to defend myself

Sasuga Nu-Stephen.
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>>170571924
>loli voice
>sexy
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>>170539025
Either male or make gender selectable or I'm out. Being a tomboy is just extra shit.
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>>170572104
Who are you quoting?
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>>170563452
>official
Not being that wrong does it get to be official.
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>>170572129
The protag is silent, which you never see talk or come up in dialogue.

You would know that if you ever played a SMT game.
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>>170565460
Can I put that on a flip phone?
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>>170572147
Epig meem, m8
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>>170565460
What happens if Moh Shivvu sees me texting my girlfriend?
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>>170572312
I was legitimately asking because I'm trying to see where you got that someone called Toki sexy in my post.
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>>170572251
MCs are silent but you can still infer their personality based on their possible actions and tone of responses.
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Name any other characters in final that are cool other than Navarre and Gaston.
I will tell you why you are wrong.
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>>170572393
Well thanks to your few posts we can all infer that you are a faggot with a tone like that.
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Only people who want female MC are degenerates and SJWs.
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Only people who care about the MC are degenerates and KYSs.
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>>170572495
Am I degenerate for wanting the female reincarnation of Jesus Christ to shove her feet in my face?
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>>170572626
Yes.
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>>170572481
Hallelujah.
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>>170572481
King Frost.
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>>170572728
He's a "Half-demon, half-faggot" gary stu.
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>>170572481
Buddha
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If you don't want to have gay sex with trap Lucifer you don't belong here.
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>>170572823
part of a contrarian fedoracore faction
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>>170572849
He's gay? I don't think that was mentioned.
He's not edgy like his father; dude was a straight faggot..
Stuck around even against his brodad
So, please give me real complaints.
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>>170572976
>>170572858
oops misclick,
but king frost is a cool dude. Don't include demons that have been in different games in their current form.
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>>170573029
He just feels like an OC in one of those old 2007 fanfictions.
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>>170572918
If you don't want to have gay sex with Maitreya you don't belong here.
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>>170573073
but king frost was helping the same faction
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>>170573374
Go away Indonesian.
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>>170572481
Krishna
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>>170572286
If you're good with T9 then you should be fine in using it.

>>170572356
It will be very painful.
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>>170573493
>>170572976
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Why is Shesha such a good public speaker?
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>>170574113
Evolution
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Post those rare Jack Frosts, Hee-Ho!
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>>170576806
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Is Raidou 1 really that easy or am I just grinding too much while trying to maximize loyalty?

I'm at episode 6 and every boss fight have been easy than any normal fight.
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>>170576806
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>>170573029
>He's gay?
He blushed at Nanashi (for some reason) twice and was always supportive of him, that's all I could think of. The latter you find out it's because he's not entirely human, so I'm not sure if you could count that.
Otherwise, he hasn't really shown any sexual interest in anyone for that matter which inherently makes him a better character than 'reduced to nothing but lusting MC's cock' Toki

Also his dad fucked a human woman, how is he a faggot? Pretty sure that makes him straighter than you, Anon.
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How can human men even compete?
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>>170579306
>chicken legs
>literally zero lats
Bleh
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>>170579112
He was a cross-dressing demon that fucked a woman for a demon-human kid, a powerful one at that.
Plenty of gays do that.
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>>170580552
where can I find these powerful demon-human kids? I've got a few favors to ask.
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I just arrived to Sector Delphinus in SJ and I'm wondering if this game just isn't for me. I feel like the fusion system is way too simple and offers way too little customization, even when using sources, and I feel like most demons don't do any damage, making fights last too long and with almost no tactics involved, most of the time becoming a battle of endurance.

I don't know if I'm playing wrong or what, and I really want to like this game. The dungeon crawling aspect doesn't help either.
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>>170580765
it's another 30 hours of the same
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>>170580740
Say 'Hoy' three times in the mirror and they shall appear.
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>>170581042
This game would have been so much better on another console. Thanks, I'll try to continue, but I doubt I'll finish it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSxaj3VGJ2A
OOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUH!
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When is smt getting && and || demon fusion?
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Does anyone else really like that demons make noises when they attack in Apocalypse?
Reminds me of Nocturne.
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>>170584968
Yeah, it really gives them more personality. I wish there were more variations though, it's strange that Alilat has Knocker's voice
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>>170584968
>Come on!
>HEE-HEE HO!
>sdfdfadsfasdfj!
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>>170587896
>DIE
>while casting media
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>>170587993
I thought they were saying "WHY"
my b
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I have no idea how to fuse demons. All I want to do is complete the Compendium
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>>170588892
you fuse this dik muggfugga
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>>170588892
use a guide then retard
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>>170588892
1. set fusion search to level 1-15 first then increase as needed
2. realize it is too expensive
3. give up on completing the compendium
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>>170588892
gather demons
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>>170589171

Actually, someone DID write a guide for Soul Hackers, but it's all in Japanese.


Also, >soul hackers

>>170588946
>this dik
Ain't nothing TO fuse, bitch
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I'm replaying DeSu2 right now and I'm trying to get a few of the extra bonuses for extra titles. Do the DLC add-ons count as Free Battles? As in, will they invalidate the "Do not do any Free Battles" title requirements? My need to grind is strong.
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>>170590963
they dont iirc
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>>170572481
Gaston literally does nothing storywise or gameplaywise to be cool and nosebleeds over a loli.

Like damn man at least say you like Gaston even if he adds nothing.
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>>170573184
He's just a Devil Children in a numbered SMT.

If he was Lucifer's kid they give him pointier hair, eyeshadow, and an inverted pentagram on his forehead like Mirai and Setsuna or how Setsuna Kai's little brother becomes a literal old Yugioh spiked hair.
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>>170591678
>the only one who actually helps you in the overworld
>objectively one of the best battle partners

ill give you that, he doesnt play a large part in the story.
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>>170591881
Helps nothing. His aid is useless until Odin literally throws his spear to him to keep out of some mix of pity-respect towards a guy who can't do shit and struggles so hard

And steals press turns.
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>>170592093
Also I don't hate Gaston and think he's a way better character than the girls, but he adds literally nothing besides a third option to make babies with a boy and some pretty good dialogue.
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What's the earliest demon I can fuse in Apocalypse that knows Debilitate?
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>>170594391
First I got was kartikeya
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>tfw thought the spike on Demifiend's neck was his hair for years
>just now realized it's some demon magatama shit
My life has changed.
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>>170594391
Kartikeya or if you have the dlc, tokisada
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>>170594584
>>170595025
Alright, thanks, I'll keep an eye out for him then. Should be right around my level.
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>>170589336

I did but I only have a dozen spots so I let a lot of demons out of the COMP.
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>>170595025
Fucking pay2win bullshit
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>>170594391
Trap Nanashi?
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So, I wanted to start playing this game series, and I grabbed kyuuyaku megami tensei and started playing that. I've explored every tile of every floor and did a little bit of grinding, but I'm getting wrecked by the first boss. What do?

Every random battle is either far too easy and gives no xp, or is like 5 super tough enemies that kill me in two rounds.
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>>170600823
Tokisada's a later level than Kartikeya anyway and is a fusion accident demon, no reason to use him.
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>>170604681
The point is if you're far enough into the story (at least by the time twisted Tokyo is available, maybe earlier), you can just buy one from the godslayer needs demon quest, no fuss with fusion accidents or trying to figure out a path to kartikeya, and he comes with all skills unlocked so no need to level him either. It's just a time saving device, utilize it if you want, it's nothing you couldn't do yourself, it just makes it less autistic to get
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>>170603025
This boss was my casual filter and one of the hardest bosses of the series for me. Also, Kyuuyaku was my second game, after Persona 1.

Get Cerberus around the floor of the boss and recruit/fuse a lot of demons, then hope for the best. Took me a lot of game overs to beat him.
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>want to buy games in smt sale
>psn randomly won't accept my card
holy shit i just want five dollars
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>>170610873
ANOTHER CARD REJECTED
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>>170594661
It's a demon dick on his neck
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Goodnight, /smtg/.
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>>170612102
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Dia
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>>170621068
Gonna need some stronger magic than that.
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Is there a list of power and miss rates for every Nocturne skill?
I mean accurate information, not just Heavy/Moderate/Small and High/Medium/Low.
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>>170621596
Samerecarm
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tfw the peace as we know won't last forever, next month this general will be flooded with pre neogaf /pg/ refugees.
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Hoy
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>>170627436
Hoy. Dem slow days.
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>>170521163
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>>170627436
sad hoy.
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Hey guys just got to Sector E on SJ, do the dungeons get any easier from here?
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>>170632997
lol
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>>170632550
A Hoy
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>>170632997
the random enemies, maybe
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Just beat SMT II and don't know if I should play Raidou or Nocturne now. Any suggestions?
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>>170632997
print out the final area I needed something to write on and trace the way back
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>>170636478
if...
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>>170636478
Raidou is more actiony if you want a change play that if you want more smt rpg fun go nocturne
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/pg died
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>>170636864
Good.
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>>170636864
They were just too lazy to make another thread. Don't be rude.
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>>170636864
they can make a new thread or they can straight fuck off we don't want them
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ATLUS general
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>>170637425
ATLUS x SEGA x FE x DMC x DIGIMON General
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>>170637425
Does that mean we can getting back together with Etrian Odyssey general?
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>>170637626
No.
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So did you guys buy a Switch yet or are you gonna wait till the actual SMT game comes out for it?
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>>170638069
I won't get one until near the end of the year at the very least.
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>>170638069
I'm expecting a hardware revision to come out around the holidays so I'll probably pick one up then.
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>>170638069
Gonna wait for more games and better prices, or at least to have it bundled with Mario or some shit.
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Dia
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>>170639726
I'LL END IT THUS
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>>170639647
Media
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>>170640862
Charm
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Just started this
any tips beside what's already in the pastebin?
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>>170638069
not until they fix all the hardware issues
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>>170642860
Reserve your demons for bosses and later dungeons, keep recruiting/fusing and try to do all the sidequests at the end of the game to get some extras for MT2.
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Diarama
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>>170645961
Mediarama
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>>170643710
Anything else?
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>>170549390
But pretty boys are what sell, and we all know the japanese fanbase is 90% of fujoshi and 10% of guys.
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>>170638069
Yeah waiting for SMT to actually be confirmed.
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>>170638069
I'll wait, I'm a poorfag, barely have time to play anything these days and I want to finish the games I already own, so a bunch of megaten, both versions of fire emblem fates and some final fantasy games. It should give me enough time to save money and wait until the switch becomes cheaper.
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Just beat DeSu for the first time.
This game is incredible, I got Amanes end.
Immediately started a new game.
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>>170651175
DeSu 1 is great. A solid 8/10. DeSu 2 was a mistake.
Now go before the DeSu haters arrive.
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It took me 14 days to get internet again, but here I am smtg. I had a lot of time and finished smtiv, just got to konganji in smtiva too.

here's more nozomi porn.
http://imgur.com/a/IPwuk
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>>170651451
DeSu 1 story > DeSu 2 story
DeSu 1 protag < DeSu 2 protag
DeSu 1 tits < DeSu 2 protag
Bels + Lokis > Ayyylmaooooooos
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>>170638069
I will get it eventually, that trailer had nothing in it but I hope they make a game where you still scavenge relics. I think its a cool way to get money and should stay on the series.
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>>170653683
>DeSu 1 tits < DeSu 2 protag
now hold on here
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>>170653921
That was supposed to say DeSu 2 tits.
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>>170653921
Must've been Yamato
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>>170638069
It'll be another #FE
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#FE sequel on Switch.
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>>170521163
3DS project is SMT if...
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>>170653205
why the inhuman cock?
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>>170654951
He's just being true to Dagda's mythological appearance, man.
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I only have $10 on my nintendo account. Which DLCs for SMTIV and SMTIVA should I get?
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>>170653683
But Abel > Autism Bunny
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>>170655629
I don't even remember Abel as a protag desu
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>>170655483
Freeshop
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>>170655706
Forgetting this smile
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>>170655629
There's no difference.
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>>170655629
>>170655892
Abel is more like Minato, so nah.
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>>170655483
ancient of day
stephen

or just pirate everything
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>>170656192
>tfw not that anon but can't pirate because Xenoblade 3DS updated my firmware before I could crack the system with homebrews
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What happened to the insect/robot motif Law had going in IV?

That was cooler than jello cube world
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>>170657072

As long as you're on 11.2 or under, you have a way
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>>170656112
But Minato is great
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Playing SMT I, and I'm in that blue diamond realm after killing both the Law and Chaos phantasms. Is it worth finishing at this rate? I'm getting pretty debilitated playing it and it's pretty clunky, I've heard SMT II is basically a direct upgrade in every way and wonder if it's worth it to just play that one instead before figuring out emulation for Nocturne and IV
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>>170658604
Have you seen my daughter?
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>>170657237
fuck you
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>>170657865
It updated me to 11.3 before I knew what was going on. Got the New 3DS XL and the game said it had a firmware update so I assumed it was just a patch for it and not the system itself.
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>>170658898
because a green woman is the first thing that pop in people's mind when they think of the archangel gabriel
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>>170659568
Fits like a glove :)
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>>170659769
>An Ayy LMAO woman fits in because she has wings!111!!! Get it?
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>>170659769
Middle is the only good one.
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>>170660132
>I like the new archangels because they look alien and bizarre
>LOL GABRIEL IS GREEN AYY
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>>170658898
I mean more the environments than those guys,
Pluto castle, Shen Duque etc
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>>170658898
it fits into the new trend of depicting angels as eldritch abominations. get on with the times
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>>170659568
Eh that picture is pure opinionated bullshit, it just proves that robot gabriel's design is quite busy.

>>170659769
>>170660170
If you think about it, the one in the middle is just as bullshit as any other depiction of angels, just old, though not even that old and fits the respective picture in artstyle.
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What the fuck even is Stephen in the context of IV's universe if he's not the one from SMT 1?
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>>170658898
I'm more disgusted by Lucifer's portrayal than anything, especially as it's not hard to fuck up the basics of his design (pretty boy or man with multiple wings, sometimes with horns, probably naked).
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>>170658898

>New Testament vs Old Testament

Gonna say this now, barring Metatron and maybe Cherub for weirdness factor, Kaneko's angels were kinda meh.
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>>170658898
>teleport the YHVH's Universe
>it's the streets of 1980s NYC
>gangs of biker angels give you a swirlie
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wkJzZ7SbzU
tommy is playing strange journey
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>>170668223
Literally who?
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>>170668281
tommy
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>>170668380
has less than 300 subs he is a nobody
>>
Smt vs persona debates are stupid
There are only three good RPGs
Thousand year door
Xenoblade
And pokemon emerald
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who let twitch stream watchers in here?
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>>170669859
you're trolling but those are all good games too
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>>170673318
I LET THE TWITCH STREAM WATCHERS OUT KOJIRO
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>SH boss blows away all my demons with wind skills
do I find them back? why is this allowed?
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>>170674524
I don't know what SH is, but you can find LOST demons in the world. They'll look like any other random encounter.
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Tommy is playing Raido now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJxt7Aybyt0
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>>170675456
who?
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>>170675456
>Tommy
Was hoping you meant Tommy Wiseau but instead its some random faggot. Its probably you shilling your stream. Fuck you, Tommy.
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>>170675456
>SJ stream bugs and then he abandons it
I feel cheated
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>>170675091
why you answer his question if you don't even know what game he's playing?
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a lot of stinky boys tell me to go full STR build on Nocturne. I'm finally going to play it so somebody tell me why STR is the way to go.
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>>170677030
because mag fucking sucks in nocturne?
theres also no pierce for magic.
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>>170677130
never played it before so didn't know. thanks
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>>170677030
STR FOR MEN
YOU DISAGREE ME EAT YOU WHOLE
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STR lets you crush a rock.
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Nanashi?
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>>170678429
it's not like gothic lolita is particularly hard to find
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Demons and humans... Which are stronger?
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>>170679526
Humans
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>>170679573
Sounds like something a weak human would say...
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>>170679794
I'm stronger than you.
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>>170679526
dante
>>
Hoy
>>
I got SMTIII and DDS on the PSN sale. Should I also nag DDS2 while I'm at it? Feel like i haven't heard about it as much as the first or maybe they're just talking about both of them when discussing it in general.
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>>170685845
You need DDS2 to understand what the fuck is going on in DDS, so I'd highly suggest that
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>>170685845
yeah pretty much one whole game
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>>170685914
>>170685971
is dds any good though?
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>>170685914
>>170685971
Thanks
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>>170686163
It's great
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>>170686163
Cannibalism, not comprehending, and hermaphrodites anon. It's great.
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Why can't SMT have good law reps?
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>>170689802
Jonathan?
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>>170689846
Simon Belmont.
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>>170689802
>Law Hero
>Jonathan
>Bad
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>>170689802
Amane's a good Law rep.
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>>170690326
Not smt
>>
SMT set during the Boshin War
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>>170689802
chiaki was good, manikins deserved to be killed
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>>170690827
chiaki is not law, shes chaos
>>
http://pastebin.com/0gguMLyL
How good is this translation?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3eMjYAOjNo
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Nocturne on PS4 with trophies when?
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>>170674524

Which boss? I'm hanging back a bit while I try to figure out how the fuck the Zoma and fusing as a whole is supposed to work.
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>>170696570
nvm my post, I re-checked and my demons are still with me but dead.
it's the 3rd boss, probably next for you. afaik you just fuse a demon with the zoma and get a Zeed with similar stats to that demon
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>>170654951
I went a bit overboard and only noticed it was too huge when I was shading it.
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Hoy.
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>Bonds ending goes full Breakfast Club
>Anarchy is the most power fantasy of power fantasies but creates possibly the one universe where YHVH is dead forever

I shouldn't feel this conflicted.
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>>170707501
Bonds brings a better fight against *record scratch* and has Flynn follow you arround in YHVHs universe, basically fighting along with you which is a nice touch.

If you can stand the faggots it's the better route in every single way, new messiahs will beat down a returning YHVH anyway, also nobody can tell what Nanashi is going to do with his new universe, if I were him I'd just observe Dagda into the god of daddies and call him once every week.
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>Doing side quests in SMTIVA
>End up doing a job for the Patriots
Does this game take place in the same world as Metal Gear Solid?
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>Persona 5 was delayed because of gaming journalism
Reminder that anyone who supports gaming journalism is cancer
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>>170708517
>Persona

Who cares.
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>>170707972
>If you can stand the faggots it's the better route
They don't make it easy, that's for sure.
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>>170709312

>Pascal

Useless in battle but ok

>Nozomi

Ok in battle, good for comedy

>Navarre

MVP, surprisingly good character

>Hallelujah

Required for two battles and kinda meh otherwise, pretty all right guy. Reveal was really meh

>Gaston

Useless until you get him Gungnir, decent character arc

>Toki

Undisputed Best Girl, farms the hordes for easy grinding

>Isabeau

Jack of all trades, kinda just there

The cast was pretty all right.
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>>170709553
>Useless in battle but ok
She isn't, though.
>Ok in battle, good for comedy
Neither of those things is true.
Rest is right though.
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>Green Flynn
Holy shit. Were they even trying? This is some MSPaint shit
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>>170710025

what's worse is that it really lets down that great and kinda terrifying watercolor cut-in that came before it.
>>
Hoy
>>
IV a shit
>>
IV a good
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>>170707972
the worst is that Danu is all "diversity is our strength" but the friends squad still just kills everyone in their way
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>>170707972
I think Dagda would thank you more, if you simply made sure he never gets observed again.
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>>170717286
where would the fun be in that?
Also I'm not sure leaving the new universe too the guy and his fleshlight that arguably have strongest impression of him as live death skeleton man wasn't the smartest thing, if he just wanted to be rain again forever if you ask me.
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>>170716948
Let's not forget she also just makes a new perfect son and let's you kill the old one that actually was a person.
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>>170698271

I'm well ahead of that point already. I spent too much time in the Casino and bought the Emperor weapons. Too many later demons have status-changing moves, so it's risky. I got more out of using my demons.
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>>170689846

Charlotte
>>
I dreamed that I beat a smt-related game then for the post-game I had to select the gender of demi-fiend, also Dagda was now revived (apparently I had chosen Bonds and killed it) and acquirable in a certain part of the map (the game had Zelda Oracle-style maps) and I was going to get it because it had some good moves for the competitive scene.
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>>170716149
IV a good thing to shit on.
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>>170720641
And how did you move around the map?
SMT style or Zelda style?
>>
Holy shit IV's ost is groovy.
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>>170525023
that was a bit strange, you've got demons now bragging about how they can get stronger unlike the stagnant humans

is it just becasue you're on their home turf?
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>>170721594
It's pretty fucking good. I can't find a complete rip of it anywhere though.
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>>170722049
it's on rutracker
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Hey there hot stuff!
Want to take a closer look at my inventory?
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>>170722368
So it is. Thanks.
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>>170722465
Stop smiling, bitch.
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>>170722465
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So is there a difference between gods returning to the Axiom when they die and Dagda becoming "one with nature" in the Massacre ending?
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>>170722723
>『ツ』
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>>170721571
Only remember the map, dream didn't go that far into gameplay, I assume it would be Zelda's
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>angels are the first demons you encounter that know Magaon
Lawfags confirmed as killjoys.
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>>170722817
If you don't have some niggers arround aknowledging a god they fade away into becoming one with their respective phenomena again.

Or so I think, it really isn't that clear and I don't see how Nanashi isn't fulfilling those requirements unless it means that he thinks all the gods he has slain are nothing but shit made unecessary by his own very being so his observation doesn't call them into being or that he has lost that power the moment he became the new creator.
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>>170723793
FINAL makes no sense
I really hope they scrap that "observation" bullshit
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Media!
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>>170728373
Die For Me!
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>>170729269
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>>170539821
Did you hit your head too hard anon?
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>>170731380
I agree that calling tomboys "SJW" is retarded but I still don't like them.
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>>170709553
Hallelujah is great for battles in general, imo. Don't have to worry about my team fucking each other over from getting horny or something, don't have to worry about sick or poison, etc.

Also isn't annoying like Toki personality-wise.
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>>170733406
I love tomboys and i respect that.
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>>170733406
I don't like you.
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>>170733960
>Bulma
>tomboy
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Which sub apps are the most helpful in SJ? I'm having a tough time deciding after I realized that HP and MP regen wasn't useful.
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>>170736495
i like demon stat ups but its not that important
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>>170736495
relax spray
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Hee
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I don't like killing angels.
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>>170745294
They're still demons, just a bit different.
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>>170745294
That's a power anon.
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>>170746224
...Powers are angels
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In apocalypse, how does damage between Deadly Wind and True Zandyne compare? I noticed Dazzle Ray does ~2x as much as Judgment Light, despite both being billed as "severe"

Just wondering if it's worth making Samyaza my specialized wind demon or if I should go w/ Pale Rider for the resists
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>>170748615
Force:
Deadly Wind - 210 (1 hit)
Floral Gust - 230 (1-4 hits)
[Raging Tempest - 240 (1 hit)] *Inanna
[True Zandyne - 210 (1 hit)] *Inanna
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>>170748615
Take the one with the least weaknesses.
Most enemies just spam almighty during endgame
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Just started SMT:IV, and I want to go a physical build of some kind. Should I go 1 St, 2 Dex, 1 Agi, 1 Luck every level if I still want to use normal attacks, or just dump the St into Dex?
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>>170749298
2 DEX
1 Agi
2 LCK
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>>170749413
Sounds like a plan there. Thanks.
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>>170749298
I used 3 DEX, 1 AGI and 1 LCK, with some points in STR when I felt like it.
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>>170745661
t. Beelzebub
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>>170745294
I like killing angels
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>>170755754
I like angel killings
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>>170755754
>>170755972
Speaking of angels who WERE the Three Wise Men? The Archangels? If so why was Mastema not working in concert with them? Why did Mem Aleph allude to some kind of connection or deal she had with them that they supposedly betrayed?
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>>170747150
No they're not. I can tell because he holds a lance, and angels are notoriously peaceful benevolent agents of God.
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Why was Lucifer so afraid of some Divine Powers? Aren't they like level 20?
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I got myself Apocalypse, should I do a law run and white to get all 4 endings on IV before I start IV:A?
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what did he mean by this
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>>170658604
the diamond realm is pretty fucking boring, it does get better after it

i don't know what they were thinking with that
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>>170758902
He's very interested in a demon. What's so hard to understand?
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>>170758902
>4032x3024
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>>170758994
Its very large for a very large ass
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raidou with an expanded combat system when
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>>170761924
beat the shit out of that little cocksucker
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>>170758902
he has a self-lubricating ass
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>>170757760
No.
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>>170691327
It's not 100% accurate, but enough to understand what's going on and where you need to go. Google recently updated their JP-EN translator, but it's giving a 403 error in Chiitrans, so you have to use ATLAS or another translator. Which is a shame, I'm currently using Google translator for Majin Tensei 2 script, and the translation is surprisingly good.
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>>170691327
>>170768201
Start learning Japanese
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Why won't they remake Nocturne already? The game if properly marketed could be really successful. And there's plenty enough that could be changed:
>put Raidou instead of Dante for more coherence with the franchise, maybe put an option to keep Dante for the memes
>overhaul talking skills for a different system
>give the Demifiend proper walking and running animations
>fix the fusing system to let you pick inheritance for skills
>voice acting I suppose
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>>170769358
this but SMT II
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>>170761924

I just want Ose to not be a jobber anymore.
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>>170769358
this but MT II
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>>170769358
>give the Demifiend proper walking and running animations
Shura's running animation is great, you fag.
>fix the fusing system to let you pick inheritance for skills
What's wrong, too casual for shuffling?
>voice acting I suppose
So we can hear Lowenthal while hearing Troy Baker once again? Fuck it.
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>>170770447
>too casual for shuffling?
as if you're more hardcore because you opened a menu 30 times until you got what you wanted. people pick skills anyway, may as well save me some time.
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>>170770447
>Shura's running animation is great, you fag.
The animation itself isn't that bad, the problem is that it's like it was designed for a D-Pad. It moves on 8 directions and has only one speed, and the animation gets interrupted easily instead of flowing naturally to an end, making you able to move while the Demifiend's legs are doing some weird shit. It's awfully dated.

>What's wrong, too casual for shuffling?
Some people don't enjoy having to waste tens of minutes just to get one fusion right. It's annoying and it makes no sense, it doesn't make the game more difficult, and only detracts from enjoyment.

>So we can hear Lowenthal while hearing Troy Baker once again? Fuck it.
You can always deactivate the voices, a 3D game with no voice acting wouldn't sell these days.
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>>170770447
>Shura
Go fucking kill yourself.
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>>170758902
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>>170769358
>fix the fusing system to let you pick inheritance for skills
Only if they use Final's system with affinities and certain restrictions and such and not IV/P4G piece of shit fusion.
>voice acting I suppose
Fuck no.
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>>170770794
>a 3D game with no voice acting wouldn't sell these days.
Except BotW selling like hotcakes right fucking now.
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>>170773097
Zelda has voice acting now, it just isn't very good.
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>>170773330
Only in cutscenes.There is like 8 of them.
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>Hiraoka responds by saying that the Persona series remains Atlus’ most important work, and that this will not change in the future. “The next step for it is already in preparation, so stay tuned!”
RIP SMT
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>>170773425
Good. Only niche projects can be at least somewhat intellectual when it comes to games. I don't want SMT to become mainstream panderingfest shit for lonely waifufags, and thank God that experiment with Final bombed terribly.
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>>170773023
I'd have P4G fusing, as in forcing you to keep the base skills while choosing the rest, with affinities on top of that.
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>>170773367
there's a lot more than 8 but you only really need VA in cutscenes anyway. IV and Apocalypse didn't use VA for every line either
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This is megaten audience now. No wonder Kaneko fucked off away from nuAtlus.
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>>170773805
>that experiment with Final bombed terribly.

Nips didn't like it either?
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>>170774009
>tfw no gf to play SMT: Persona 5 with
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>>170774009
>this is persona audience now
ftfy
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>>170774009
I want a fujo Megaten gf that forces me to play Raidou with her.
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>>170774009
Hasn't MegaTen ALWAYS had serious strong ties with the female demographic?
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>>170776691
Yes. Kaneko even acknowledged them.
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Didn't Kaneko ship Tatsuya/Jun?
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Katsuya > Tatsuya
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>>170774279
are you me?
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I was wondering why I haven't seen Lilith in Final
Then I remembered that thing from IV
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Amane best girl
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>>170781586
Correct!
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>>170781586
Absolutely
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>>170781586
>>170781916
>>170782021
That's not Jizzabel.
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>>170779178
You beat her up in IV
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>>170547536
I think it should be like an entire megaten cross over with all the spin offs too.
Some ideas I have
>Get to pick assits which are demons from games
>Get to play as some demons from the games, like Metatron
>Give characters different variations, like in Melty Blood, where they keep basic normals and some shared specials, but giving them different play-styles as the SMT games gives you freedom on different builds.
>The variations could also be in reference to the choice characters make in the story, like a normal Jonathan, and than a variation giving him powers of Merkabah or Angel like moveset
I've been thinking about this ever since I heard about P4A. Just thinking about this shit in class, hyping myself up.
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>>170537621
>there are people who still use skype, for anything
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Who are you?
What do manchildren like you want from me?
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>>170787064
Macca
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Can you wait to fight Baalam towards late game in MT2? Is there a point where this fight is unavailable. I really don't want to put points into INT
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Best end/late game magic user build for SMTIVa?
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>>170789372
I don't think this fight becomes unavailable. He drops an important item for the progression.
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>>170792625
Ok great, thanks!
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Hoy.
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>>170555341
Girls are shit. I hate how I have to spend time with them to get powers already. It would be hell playing as one.
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*blocks your path*
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So I'm grinding on Nocturne currently at lvl 95.
What are some cool demons from high level?
Already got Shiva and my man Metatron but I'm not sure what else to make.
I was thinking of Beelzebub but meh not feeling like it
(Not that it matters, going for 100% of the compendium anyways)
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Ded thread
Ded series
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>>170764042
Why?
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So I should use all my armor upgrades on the dark goth set, right?
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>>170805036
yes
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>>170685845
DDS2 on PSN was an unplayable pile of shit when I bought it when it launched. You couldn't even watch the OP without the frame rate slowing to a crawl
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>>170799048
>Metatron
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>>170690572
She's part of MegaTen, she counts. DeSu is closer to a main line game then other spin-offs anyway.
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>>170810142
>DeSu is closer to a main line game then other spin-offs anyway.
There is this maymay again...
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Who thought Strange Journey's stat allocation was a good idea? This is just awful.
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>>170799048
I finished the game with the 3 you mentioned. Shiva had Pierce. I don't think there are any other higher leveled demons.
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>>170811430
Okay so:

>demon invasion and apocalypse goes down
>in Tokyo
>using a DSP to survive

Huh, totally not like the main series at all.

>>170811526
Kanako.
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>>170812429
Yeah, sorry, I totally forgot that main series was about demonic Dragon Ball seinen shitshow.
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>>170811526
It's not like you will have any career prospect that isn't ordnance.
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>>170812574
>seinen
Dank
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>>170811526
Stat growth really doesn't make much a difference. As long as you are oriented toward an Agility, Magic, or Strength build with the questionnaire thing at the start of the game your fine. I get what they were trying to do with it but its not quite as effective as one would like.
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Does anyone know the damage formula for guns on MTII? Does strength even affect guns? Im at middle game and it just seems like the points i have put into strength are not worth it because I attack with guns 9/10 times.
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>Infernal Tokyo Underground District starts playing
How in world Koduka can possibly top this shit with V OST? Its been three years and I still listening to the masterpiece of original IV soundtrack almost daily.
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Are hordes the worst part of IV? Because I absolutely hate them besides how much EXP they give, they are just annoying.
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>>170814194
should've gone world of LUK and delete them with hama
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>Use a bunch of armor upgrades on dark goth set
>End up regretting it because I can't wear anything else since it's my best gear so I constantly have a boner while playing
Mistakes were made
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>>170813764
I'm glad Kozuka is the new SMT main composer, he's great. That hack Meguro hasn't made a notable OST since Nocturne.
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>>170814352
>since Nocturne
DDS and P3 OSTs were great. But yeah, afterwards its nothing but shit.
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>>170814352
>>170814524
>not liking based Hee-ho OST from Strange Journey
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>>170770221
>tfw no MT2 remake with 80's anime aesthetics
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>>170815042
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaqpQNjJLc

Here's only memorable song from SJ.
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an honor befitting that autism
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>>170814352
Even the unmemorable OSTs by Meguro are great.
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Titanomachia
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>>170818573
Netorare is the future of Megaten.
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>>170815957
Nope.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3eMjYAOjNo
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>>170818869
Yeh, nah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CisFqz7d7w
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>>170819267
Nein.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KpFI0BbUqA
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Are there any big differences between the europe version of DeSu 2 and the american version?
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>>170819361
No way
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWOSBA_M_Cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqJuIxdyNkM
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>>170819826
>>170819361
>>170819267
>>170818869
>>170815957
So proof SJ soundtrack from Meguro wasn't bad? Nice. Never had an issue with it, always felt atmospheric, properly tuned with the ambience and setting of the story, and the whole "descending into hell" thematic.
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>>170820054
People who don't like SJ's soundtrack are underage.
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>>170820054
>fitting = good
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>>170820054
not so much descending when each stratum sounds the same as the last one (besides E)
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>>170820219
>autism

>>170820220
Never got that impression or vibe from it.
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>>170820054
I was gonna say variety would help, but Meguro would shit out 15 generic rock tracks as "variety". All of the dungeon themes in SJ, except for Eridanus, are random chanting mixed with minimal drums. So, the large proportion of the shit you hear while crawling is just repetitive, unimaginative dullness.
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>>170820820
I think you need to fix your ears, anon.
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>>170820820
Antilla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuzvQW_gxkk&list=PL5C0B03AA8CB72C7A
Bootes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EjRCNhf_GI&list=PL5C0B03AA8CB72C7A&index=2
Carina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlPA5FbOk-o&list=PL5C0B03AA8CB72C7A&index=3

Don't really sound the same in composition, same instruments and similar vocals but hardly "the same" end result. And also the effect and result is intentional.
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>>170820820
>but Meguro would shit out 15 generic rock tracks as "variety".
Are you talking about DDS' OST?
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>>170820054
All is shit. One samefagging sperg is not a proof.
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>>170821635
>One samefagging sperg
You're an ultra dumb dweeb.
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>>170821204
of course they're different, but I couldn't tell you if one was Bootes or Carina unless I can read the title
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>>170822059
>he doesn't perfectly remember character, boss, dungeon, and route themes
I can recognize Carina, Delphinus, Bootes, and Antilla from each other instantly and I haven't replayed SJ in 4 years.
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>>170821204
If you use similar time signatures while using similar instruments and keeping things minimal for each track you end up with repetitive ones, and since these tracks are dungeon themes you get to listen to these tracks maybe for a good 20-25 hours, I think I beat the game in 32. It isn't a good idea use these type of tracks as dungeon themes in a dungeon crawler.
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>>170821635
Really nigga?

>>170822319
Not him but I have no idea what "time signatures" means in any form of context talking about a BGM. My first play through on Strange Journey was about 80 hours, mainly due to the difficulty with Sector Eridanus and Sector Horologrim. It never detracted from the experience and I never got tired of it unlike certain songs from DDS1 or P3 and P4 when going into dungeons.

Similar does not equate to repetition.
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>>170822489
If have to degrade an OST to BGM, I'd just mute the music. They all have the same formula(chanting + minimal drums + a small pump of melody to tie the loop together). If using the same formula for each track isn't repetitive then what is?
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>>170823075
What do you think the purpose of a soundtrack is? It provides background music to add to the atmosphere of a game. Doesn't matter if its on a handheld portable, console, or computer. Those Meguro sector tracks are there to be moody chanting gregorian style indications the story is going further south. Bitch more since you're clearly one of those brainless J-Rock/metal fags.

>repetitive

Its not the same track being endlessly played over from one area to another, so it can't be repetition. Its like complaining about the Amala Network theme being "repetitive" because it non-stop loops over itself when your in that same area.
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I hope getting this sword early is worth it. I spent about 5 hours trying to get the demons necessary to fuse this thing.
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Holy shit, Jack is the most bullshit boss fight I've played in ages.I thought Ouroboros was bad, but this is just ridiculous.
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>>170823583
>What do you think the purpose of a soundtrack is?
Accompanying the product, calling an OST BGM degrades the nature of the work and the musician for it offers much more, anyone can whip up a BGM in minutes. Creating an OST requires continuity, following a theme(which Meguro managed to do with SJ but fell into dullness in the process) and a considerably unique artistic view, you don't need any of these while creating BGM.

>Its not the same track being endlessly played over from one area to another, so it can't be repetition
Repetition is only repetition if a 30 second loop playing in the background? Following the same method without any type of alternation is repetitive.

> Its like complaining about the Amala Network theme being "repetitive" because it non-stop loops over itself when your in that same area
I don't have to listen to Amala Network theme for at least 20 straight hours. In order to do that in SJ, I have to mute the game.
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>>170824812
we warned you boy
now git gud
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>>170825205
Sounds like you have severe autism, anon. Might want to seek some professional medical help to pacify your condition.
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>>170825471
I managed to beat him after tens of tries with a lot of luck, this is the last bullshit boss before Meme Aleph right?
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>>170826256
No.
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>>170814194
>he didn't arrow rain most of them to death

Is Gun /ourelement/ of IV? I feel it's significantly lowest in null/repel/drains.
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>>170826658
I did that, didn't make them less annoying, especially when four more hordes arrived as reinforcements.
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>>170826658
No, that's definitely Phys, but you should use both in IV since they both scale with Dex best. Actually using your gun is sort of a meme unless you're unironically not running the passive MP regen app.
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>>170825205
>degrades the nature of the work
You have a weird way of looking at things. A soundtrack by nature is background music, there is no "foreground" tracks for one.

>creating an OST requires continuity
Meguro showed this with Strange Journey's own one.
>following a theme
Again, he satisfies this in Strange Journey.
>fell into dullness
Your opinion, completely subjective, at that. I already said I can at least here on my own antecedent never got tired of the tracks in the game's sector/dungeon areas and had no problem differentiating them from each other.
>considerably unique artistic view
Now you're rambling semantics to give more padding in your argument on why you don't like it because SJ's OST is certainly both unique and artistically divergent from his past works.

>Repetition is only repetition if...[snip]
Nonsense. Repetition is repetition is something repeats itself, and plenty of MegaTen games do the same thing yet you aren't holding them to the same standards as you are with Strange Journey's soundtrack. You get different tracks in different fights even on the same dungeon area, you just get the same dungeon theme for the same dungeon.

DDS1 does this, DDS2 does this, lord knows you hear the same fucking shit over and over without fail in P3 and P4, and Nocturne is basically guilty of this as well. So why an issue with SJ's own one?

>I don't have to listen to the Amala Network theme for at least 20 straight hours
You have to listen to it or any other background track over and over again in whatever particular area your in Nocturne.

You don't like SJ's OST? Fine. But don't give double standards bullshit to build your view on it and dismiss the same problems from other SMT games.
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>>170826658
Just have Toki murder them all.
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>>170826865
I used guns to get extra turns on bosses with elemental weaknesses. When you have 300 Dx an elemental gun attack is better than any spell, and it doesn't take up a slot, it worked very good.
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What's endgame level for Soul Hackers? I just finished the haunted house and I'm in my early 30s. I feel like I'm underleveled but the game is so easy it doesn't really stop me.
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Why do you hate FINAL, /smtg/?

Hard more: No "it's Persona" answers.
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>>170826048
nah, I just like music and have an expectation regards music in video games, I don't expect much, I, II and IV had some bitchin tracks

>>170826918
>You have a weird way of looking at things
I don't think it's a weird way of looking at it, BGM is something you almost instantly mute if there's one. Most people, even though they have the option to do so in video games, don't treat this way to OSTs. Hence, there must be a difference between two.

I didn't say Meguro did not carry any of those qualities, he does.

> Repetition is repetition is something repeats itself
A lot of thing repeat in those dungeon themes. I listed them a couple of times; the method/formula, instruments, the way songs build up. Meguro could diversify things but he didn't. That's not even the issue with these tracks. The issue is that they chose these similar songs as the songs you hear for the large part of the game and that's a mistake.

>DDS1 does this, DDS2 does this, lord knows you hear the same fucking shit over and over without fail in P3 and P4, and Nocturne is basically guilty of this as well.
You get 6 dungeons in SJ. Only one of them has a completely different track, others just sound like iterations of each other. Like I said it wouldn't be an issue if these tracks weren't dungeon themes.
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>>170828543
60ish
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>>170828737
Everything you've said is how much you personally dislike the game's soundtrack, not anything actually quantifiable about its flaws independent of your subjectivity. Fuck off with your baawing.
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>>170828862
I guess I'm about on track then. Kind of a shame this game is as easy as it is, the actual dungeon design is pretty fun.
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>>170828637
I don't hate it. It was just disappointing story/atmosphere wise.
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>>170828906
>choosing remarkably similar tracks to be played in the background for a large proportion of the game isn't a flaw
Look, I didn't even say "repetitive" since you have a problem with the word. Don't start an argument if you can't finish it.
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>>170828637
I don't, it was a lot better than IV. Not that it's hard to surpass IV.
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>>170828637
The story in IV had gone in a generic direction, but there it wasn't bad, it made the game more unique from other mainline games. Apocalypse took that new aspect and went full-anime, with the story being much more boring than IV.

The whole Shesha plot line was done very badly before it turned into Flynn, the new areas were boring compared to the old ones, and those were pretty much the same with the addition of Jade Dagger puzzles, which we know everyone loves.
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>>170829386
What argument? You literally just keep repeating yourself ad naseum. No one else has remotely even backed up your claim of the "dungeon themes for each sector" sounding the same spiel, but keep beating that dead horse argument all you want, mate. You already demonstrated you don't know what a soundtrack is or what repetition means.
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>>170828637
could've just been IV maniax
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>>170829635
*raises claw* don't forget me, I think so too
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>>170830106
>action
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>>170829635
They quite similar on a technical and the most shallow level you can imagine. I broke down the tracks' basic formula, and there's not much to those tracks even though it was a basic one.

No one has to backup my arguments, you're talking out of your ass as if someone backed up yours.

I gave you my opinion about the difference between OSTs/BGMs. In your opinion, which makes it obvious you don't think these things through, that "they're the same because they both play in the background!"

You're forcing me to repeat myself since you don't refer to any of the points I make.
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>>170830537
>They quite similar
Sure thing ESL.
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>>170828637
Because Persona 5 was more of a SMT game than IVF.
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>>170830537
>II
>IV
>'bitching tracks'
Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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>>170830665
Which DLCs are you gonna buy when the game comes out next month, /smtg/?
I'll definitely grab the Raidou DLC.
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>>170828637
but I don't?
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Why did they use shitty tokusatsu monster designers to make all those garbage new demon designs in IV and Apocalypse?
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>>170830665
>Persona 5 was more of a SMT game than IVF.
explain please
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>>170831082
someone was a fanboy and wasn't thinking
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>>170831152
Dude. Don't get me wrong I love Garo and Kamen Rider and even Super Sentai but they really do not aesthetically fit in with SMT's style at all. Like a lot of the Worms from Kabuto and Horros from Garo are great but they don't match up at all with Kanako's designs.
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>>170831251
Kaneko is a fucking hack.
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>>170830869
I feel bad for wanting the DLC but Raidou, IV, and Persona 3 all look cool as fuck. I really hope it's cheap.
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>>170832746
>I really hope it's cheap.
Ahahaha. The costume/BGM packs are 7 bucks each.
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>>170832838
Fuck, I don't believe you. They could at least let us put the BGM on shuffle or something for those prices but they don't even let us do that.
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>>170833070
http://atlus.com/persona5/dlc.html
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>>170831134
IVF went Persona, since in the end, your options are to choose between friendship and edgelord endings. It does away with the whole Law/Chaos alignment (IV started it with White and both alt-tokyos), essentially boiling down to whether you choose yourself-as-yourself like Dagda's world would be and yourself-as-made-by-othersof bonds route and Danu. There was some lore that was dropped how Dagda's daughter was turned into christian saint and he himself resents being "a being" instead of being "wind and rain". This is essentially the same dilemma P4 has - Adachi is as a villain is shown to be the resentful guy and his plan (?) is to let everyone be reduced to basic somethings or others (he's somehow both controlled and guilty, motivations are a mess but anyway), compared to Yu who continuously grows due to his bonds (Adachi doesn't use the Wild Card power that is essentially bonds=power).

Persona 5 has about as much (Goro vs Potter), but has archangels and skeletons crawling over tokyo.
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Devil Summoner Sound Collection from the pastebin is down
Anyone reup?
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>>170833335
>There was some lore that was dropped how Dagda's daughter was turned into christian saint
What. Where did you read that?
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>>170833154
this is awful. why do they expect people to pay that much for single player costumes?
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>>170833401
it's on rutracker if you need it quick
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>>170833989
won't the russian hackers nab me?
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>>170834138
rutracker's pretty safe, I think, they've been around for years
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>>170834138
yes they're diligently waiting for someone to download devil summon ost so they can hack them. this is utmost priority of every russian.
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>>170834138
cyka blyat we've been found out
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>>170832396
Your mom is a fucking hack.
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>>170831251
The idea was a good one, but I felt like the execution itself was clunky. The Law faction didn't feel like it should've because of the archangels, not to mention that their role in the story was non-existent, being reduced to DLC bosses with a shitty context for the fight.

Lilith and Merkabah's weird designs kind of worked for me. Lucifer in vanilla IV was very ugly but I feel like the classic design wouldn't have worked with Merkabah, so even if the design was bad it was necessary.
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>>170819361
When did this play?


Also can't believe I only now realized that this was a remix.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7W6eWD3AqI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLuFgGlg9GY&list=PLm30gZxZ3k4Dzak-6liaDwpdAgR8l0zF8&index=29
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>You get to wander around and/or save before the final cutscene in IV
So good
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>>170839301
>That end credits theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvvR-uGw_Ls
It's perfect
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>>170837468
First one makes sense since SJ is basically a modern remake of SMT I and II.
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>>170839604
no...
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>>170840098
I'll take Kanako's word over yours.
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>>170839501
see you next mission
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>>170839604
but they're working on the modern remake of I and II right now
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>>170840231
it's me, cozy okada
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>>170840372
>2:20
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o5aFrCfp50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o5aFrCfp50
Reminds how almost none of these themes were in the game, and the main theme is only in the opening menu and end.
>IV will never be more than 5% Mikado
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Tuttu-duuuuaa-dua-au.
Tuttu-duuuuaa-dua-au.
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>>170840372
I'm aware, but not 7-8 years ago they weren't. Kaneko's interview with Famitsu during SJ's development (along with Ishida) said they basically wanted to give a modern more international version of the core games to a broader audience.
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>>170842439
mechanically, maybe
although SMT I & II never made you go on a fetch quest before you could walk in dark rooms
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>>170842607
Well Ishida talked about why Jimenz and Zelenin directly resemble and correspond to the SMT I's chaos and law heroes.
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>>170842607
>mechanically maybe
A little bit more then that but more or less yeah.
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>tfw no black/white IV 3ds theme
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>>170843718
https://3dsthem.es/5230
This is pretty close I guess
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>>170843993
They're bad, sure, but at least they're not NISA.
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About to start Apocalypse, can you import from IV only once? Should I get the free DLC before I start a save?
>>170844164
That Burough bottom screen is a nice touch, but the top could be better
>no scrolling top screen, no scrolling bottom screen
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>>170846015
You can import more than once.
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>>170846015
That's pretty much my only gripe with it as well, There aren't many SMT4 themes though and that is the one I like the most of the bunch.

I want to make one with the Black Market theme someday, but I'm not tech savvy at all.
Maybe I'll buckle down todoit on my next day off.

There's a couple more I want to make like an SMT 1 theme with the demon encounter theme and a DDS theme with Hunting Field/Man's Tomb bgm.
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>>170846239
You can change the difficulty in-game, right?
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>>170846619
Yes, unless you pick Apocalypse.
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Why we even eager for if... so much? The shit is lazy-ass cheesefest about reused assets but with muh highschool.
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>>170849107
muh hunger
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>>170849937
Neo-Atlus USA
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>>170846725
Does changing your name from Nanashi change any voice-clips in the game?
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>>170850297
I'm not really sure. I made my name Nanashi but don't remember anyone actually calling me Nanashi.
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>>170850565
>not Nanashit
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>>170850565
Asahi calls you nanashi all the time
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>>170851284
Who's that?
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>>170851723
a brewery
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Doesn't Nanashi just mean "no-name" or nameless?
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Has anyone gotten SMT 1 and 2 on 3DS working?
If so what did you do?
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>>170852462
I downloaded this strange app off the bulletin boards...
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>>170852462
SMT1 on Snes9x
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>>170852456
We do not forgive, we do not forget.
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>>170850565
Wondering if "Doomguy" would be too much of a mood-breaker at serious points in the game, as people other than Asahi will call you your nickname
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>>170853578
That would be pretty bitching.

>Demi-Fiend
>Doomguy
>Flynn
>Nanashit
>Save the world!
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SMT GO when? I wanna be the only autist in my state running around capturing demons from a dead series while being surrounded by normies catching pokemon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttN41I6XSwI
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>>170853965
>tfw read that as Midi-Fiend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8IzPJh0uEk
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>>170849937
>$6.99

Damn, that's expensive for what they're offering.
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Thread's theme:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTU-jTmWr-k
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>>170849937
>P1 costume set
>comes with P2 battle jingle
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>>170855171
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14U64jWO85s
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Hoy
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Regular reminder that Lucifer did nothing wrong.
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Did Speesh marine have PTSD at the end of the neutral route? I did.
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Should I play DeSu 2 on blessed or apocalypse mode?
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Why is Beldr raping my ass and who is the Giolgo cunt?
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>>170861023
Beldr wants to be the King of Bel, the gigolo is a prankster
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>>170861121
>>170861023
DeSu has the deepest lore.
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>>170861023
Gigolo was best character
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>>170862630
But I like Naoya the best!
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>>170861023
Bring a demon that lets you attack twice and use your other units to keep enemies away from the MC.

Don't try to clear out the map, and don't obsess over cracking skills, just beat Beldr up ASAP before he beats you.
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>>170861023
Lower the mp of all the weaker demons
Dont kill them
They just respawn and kick your ass if you kill them
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>>170861023
Sounds like your only at the end of Day 3. You just have to run away from him.
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Wtf why can't I use any name in DeSu 2
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are my friends skills good?
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>>170866128
Not at all.
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>>170866128
>Magic Demi-Fiend
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>>170866128
>MAG build on Nocturne
>Emulator instead of a real console
>Steam
>Minecraft
>Microsoft media player
>Skype
>Matthew
Everything went wrong.
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So it turns out I need some 3DS system archive/fonts to use on Citra to play DeSu 2
Would any anon be willing to help?
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you guys made my friend restart his game
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>>170866837
Good.
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>>170866837
should've gone shijima
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>>170859349
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>>170866458
Buy the game.
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>>170866837
Sure thing, Matthew.
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>>170866383
You forgot SAI.
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>>170824812
Jack fucked me so bad that I had to make him kill himself with rep gun to win
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Persona 2 OST original or PSP?
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>>170840372
Really? Can someone hit me with a source?
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>>170872879
PSP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsKXIBpYG7k
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ONE
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>>170875613
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME
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>>170833551
The mythology Topics.

It mentions he's mad about it, but it also left it ambiguous what his main motivation is.

Notice they killed her offscreen between IV/IVF and turned her BFF Fortuna in a lover of human entrails.
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Still don't get how fusion works in SH

Dicking around with the Fusion Search didn't net me anything worthwhile and I'm already at the point where you have to go to the Amami Monolith, which is just about at the end of the normal story
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>>170773805
It didn't bomb. It sold okay for a game that reused most assets(Thus cheaper to be made), less ads and commercials for it than IV, and selling through most of its shipment.

It was the Old Team letting the newbies have some fun. At our expense.
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Are new demons unlocked from fusions in Devil Survivor 1/Overclocked bottlenecked by your level or just your demons? At level 25 and I finally got a Heimdall.
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>>170878247
Your levels limit the fusion
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Why did so many years pass between the release of SMTII and SMTIII? It feels like Atlus always skips a generation to figure shit out.
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Hoy.
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>>170774009

Why do people like Persona so much?
Is it the psychology nonsense? Or does the occult and demons scare people off?

It reminds me of how everyone likes Silent Hill 2 the most, which is more psychology oriented, while 1 and 3 which are about the occult, are less remembered.
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>>170890997
>Why do people like Persona so much?
I think it's generally more accessible than SMT proper is with more obvious appeal to various demographics with lighter themes and more focus on social/presentation aspects. It's also got that marketable brand of "look guys, we're anime", rather than mainline SMT which is notably still Japanese but probably just seems weird to anyone without interest.

As for SH2, I think it falls under a strange trend some series have where due to one reason or another one particular game in the series underwent a huge burst of popularity and most of the people that like SH2 the most have never actually played another game in the series, or often even SH2 itself. See Zelda Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy 7.
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Best way to farm macca in SMTIVA without DLC?
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>>170895073
What point in the game?
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>>170895249
Giant egg just appeared
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>>170895530
Look for Yakuza hordes
Toki will take care of them quickly, so just keep looking for them.
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>>170895772
>>170895530
Actually, I forget, you can just bind your enemies and use Fundraise
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>IV/A
>no Endurance
>no Defence on Armour
>boss uses a party-wide attack
>demons are hit for 200 damage or so
>MC is for 60 damage
What gives? Is there a hidden defense modifier based on level difference between you and the attacker?
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>>170896749
Was it an attack that hits different alignment at different strength?
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>>170897163
No, I think it was just a regular hades blast.
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>>170646519
MEGIDOLAON FOR EVERYONE
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>>170897348
Are you sure you didn't have gear equipped that granted Phys Resist?
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>>170898981
I don't think it did, but now you're making me doubt it. Does Master's Suit have Resist Phys?
Anyway, I pretty sure I've seen it happen numerous times, with different armor and attacks.
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Diarahan
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>>170902959
Mudo
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>>170904557
At least use Hama anon, since it only does half the hp as damage
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>>170906781

but humans are immune to hama.
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>>170907724
This is a image board, not a human
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>>170664019
Underrated post.
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>>170689802
Literally every SMT law rep was good though. Except maybe zelenin if you want to be uber critical. But SJ made up for that by having mastema.

And ronaldo if you want to count him was shit. But if you count him you get to count miyako who was good.
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>>170707501
>Anarchy is the most power fantasy of power fantasies but creates possibly the one universe where YHVH is dead forever

You can't kill an idea. Nothing in the game suggests that it has anything to do with extra killing yhvh. That's why steven doesn't give a shit which you take. The game actually realizes that you might think that, so shits out an orgy of evidence on you that this path isn't actually protecting anyone.

The rising to godhood story is cool, it just unfortunately is crammed into an utterly nonsensical ending that has more or less no upsides.
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>>170716948
>oh no. People are killing people who are trying to kill them.

That's not a problem. The real problem is the weird assumption that all humans can get along, but gods are too different. Even if the god is your same alignment, but the humans are not.
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>>170724532
What? Observation was in every game. It just didn't have a name before.

What they need to scrap is the godslayer bullshit. Since its not clear what it even is and makes no sense even in the game's logic. Its just a contrived excuse for the divine powers to need flynn.
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>apocalypse is just persona set in smt iv
Who fucking ok'd this shit, fuck out my face with this bonds bullshit
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>>170758973
Its pretty boring after then, too.
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>>170828637
Because it had a lot of good ideas, but wasted them on a game without real endings that tried and failed to cohere with IVs universe. We waited decades to see satan and yhvh again. This was a disappointing place to see them.
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>>170854293
>normies catching pokemon.

Is this a meme, or do you not realize that pokemon go is already dead?
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>>170908871
Kill them all lad
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>>170908539
You kill the idea by killing all humans. There's no one in the new universe besides Nanashi, goddess and Flynn.
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is keeping lower level demons viable if you downfuse skills? or are you always better off fusing up?
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>>170911668
Depends on the game, but for the most part low level demons really lack resistances/nulls
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>>170908871
IVA takes a lot of inspiration from the mangas.

Jonathans = Lawfaggotry = Typical Shonen Manga
Fallen Angel awoken by the demonic gene acts as God's Herald after becoming an angel again. Tries to Demonize all of Mikado. Demonic Hope shows up too.

Demonic Gene = Comedy/Body Horror show = Eternal Cycle of Bittersweet Ending Loop
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>>170908539
Yes you can kill an idea and demons aren't just ideas. Ideas just don't stay dead, just like humans eventually revive.

The idea comparison is always retarded Beadman
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Send help lads, I'm playing Persona 4 and I'm enjoying it.
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>>170912331
That's not how it works. You're supposed to pretend you didn't even if you actually did. How else are Journalists ever gonna take you seriously?
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>>170890997
>It reminds me of how everyone likes Silent Hill 2 the most, which is more psychology oriented, while 1 and 3 which are about the occult, are less remembered.
Twin Perfect pls. Everybody loves 2 and 3 equally. SH1 is shit tho.
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Does anyone have the infographic that showed the gender ratio for reach alignment? The one that showed that neutralfags are forever alone.
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>>170912458
SH1 is great though
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>>170912331
You're actually not.
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>I'm Tico-Tico, your adorabl guide!
>Tico means pee-pee in portuguese
I'm laughing
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>>170915961
>Tico means pee-pee in portuguese
Nunca escutei essa
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>>170916612
Well, it's used mainly for kids at least here in the south of Brazil
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>>170912331
>>
How do you feel about the games' dungeon design visually? I've always felt like the games lacked good artistic design in them, they mostly feel weird and clash with the whole demon aesthetic.

Of course I'm not talking about the realistic ones set in Tokyo, I'm talking about the more weird places. In Nocturne I felt like only the Kalpas hit that aesthetic, and I liked them because of that. But the dungeons nearing the end were too futuristic and it felt clashing, disappointing me a bit. In SJ, they were a lot better, but I still felt like some of them made no sense. It's probably because of the DS's limitations though. Eriadnus was great though.

IV and Apocalypse are the worst offenders, their realistic dungeons are good but the rest, even if they somewhat fit the aesthetic more, look awful. Naraku is just a cave, Kanda no Yashiro too, Cosmic Egg is just red shit, YHVH's Universe is Tron, at least Lucifer's palace was good (somewhat).
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>>170916701
nunca ouvi tico com esse significado, aqui significa pouco/pequeno mas na terra que pão é cacetinho...
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When does Soul Hackers get good

I just defeated guitar man for second time
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>>170917943
Never, go play a real Megaten game like Majin Tensei.
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>>170917943
when you get the mary ending
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ro8Vjer60VE

Best Maya Theme
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How do I beat Lucifer in Desu overclocked?
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>>170919085
Recarm trick
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>>170919085
Go fast. Get Tyrants to eat his turns and that other race with demons that replenish your MP. Holy Dance and Samarecarm are a must.
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>>170919085
Bring tyrants
Use parties with Reflect Phys during the second phase to make him almost kill himself
Tyrants with Race O/D works

Keep pounding on him, do not get occupied with all the other demons
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>>170919207
Recarm trick?
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When we'll get our chance to recruit Kubrick demon in our parties?
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Should I save scum for better stats in SJ? I wanted to leave it to luck, but St is my lowest stat and I have about 1.5 times that in Vi with Ag coming close. My Ma is also pretty low, and I don't know how important my stats are for the end game.
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>>170921634
pussy
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>>170922085
>that's the reason we will never see in-game blood in next 3D mainline
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>>170921634
It's alright. Some of us just aren't cut out for a world of strength. We all have thing we're bad at.
>>
3 STR
2 LU

Yes or No?
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>>170922756
maybe
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>>170922756
Where's your AGI, son of man.
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>>170922756
I do 3, 1, 1 on odd levels
2, 1, 2 on even levels
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>>170922840
ok fine

2 STR
2 LU
1 AGI

is that better?
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>>170923094
Yes.
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>>170923065
interesting. how does that usually even out?
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>>170921242
Pick two party leaders, give them recarm or demons with it, don't give them any resistance and make sure they can die easily against Lucifer

Then you just
>MC fights Lucy and die
>Ally uses recarm, fights Lucy and die
>MC uses recarm, fights Lucy and die
>Repeat
Since the ressurected unit always goes after the one that ressed it, Lucifer doesn't even get a turn
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>>170922756
5 LU
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>>170924092
then I can play the lottery
>>
my friend also used an aeros in the battle with dante at lvl 30, is that good?
>>
>>170924319
You already can, you just won't win.
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>>170912331
No way, It's almost like its a good game?
Whoa!
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This is my favorite demon guys. What do you think?
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>>170926380
Your favorite demon is pretty cool.
This is my favorite demon, do you have anything to say about her?
>>
This is my favorite demon, everyone
Isn't she great?
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>>170927094
False prophet.

>>170927237
Slut.
>>
This is my wife. Say something nice about her.
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>>170927237
reee wheres the blue lipstick
>>
>>170927391
>>>/pg/
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>>170927415
What, not demonic enough for you?
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>>170927290
How rude!

>>170927412
I took it off with a couple kisses~
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New
>>170927451
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>>170927391
Why is she drooling? Is she retarded or something?
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>>170928912
Yes, actually.
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