/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

The fuck is that edgy grin in the massacre ending for?
>implying I did anything evil

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Reminder that Garu is just a meme Zan.

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Vote for best mainline game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
Vote for best spinoff game here
http://www.strawpoll.me/12100304

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
;)

>>170017365
Reminder that Tera is a meme

>>170017283
>not grinning after a great accomplishment

why do we keep making these threads

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>>170017283
this desu
>make a perfectly non-evil decision
>friends disagree and I have to kill them in self-defense
>brainwashed messiah wants to be part of my team, I let him
>dagda finds spooky-looking, non-evil throne for me to sit
>townsfolk attack me for no reason
>use their souls for my perfectly non-evil purposes

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8th for Vayu

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holy fuck master difficulty in IV is hard

0-5: I kill my friends
6-9: I don't

>>170020957
Kill them.

>>170020957
do you even MGTOW

>leave /smtg/ for a year or so
>threads are still on the brink of death all the time
just like old times right guys?

>>170020957
Yeah, kill them. If you were expecting an Ouija on a Sri Lankan deep-sea diving message board to make your decision for you then you might as well kill them all.

>>170020957
On one hand I want to honor my roll but on the other hand I really want to kill my friends.

>>170021218
there was a time when the threads were active as hell despite no new games
presumably there was a wave of new Fatli at the time

What happened to Beadman and that other unironic lawtist?

I want to fuck the protagonist of Devil Kids!

>>170016986
Are they gonna release this fucking 3ds game any soon?

>>170023159
Coming soon

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>>170016986
Speesh Marine best boy.

>>170022005
I'm ashamed to admit that I have nostalgia for when alignment wars would take up entire threads. That was the only thing keeping these threads alive at one point.

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>>170024031
Your shame is indeed justified, my child.

For the best ideal has taken over, and /smtg/ is able to live in a peaceful world of stillness and bumps.

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>>170025221
>Reasons

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>>170023975
Agreed

>>170025221
The fact that we need bumps is proof your world is losing power though. Soon another anon will cause the conception and we will be plunged into chaos again.

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>>170026284
>>170023975

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Reminder Chaos route best route.

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>>170029987

>in casino again to get 99,999 coins to get the emperor/empress weapons
>play VS Poker
>smooth sailing from 200 tier to 600 tier
>1200 is fair
>get to 2500
>AI gets Full House, Four of a Kind, and Straight Flush on first 3 turns
>lose another 10,000 trying to get coins back
>got to 10,000 exactly once and he was ahead 25 points by turn 4
>ragequit

I'm also hung up because I want to complete the compendium but I haven't even begun fusing. Where do I start?

>>170018464
Humans don't want to be ruled by a creator god of any kind, which is why they will try to kill Nanashi if he chose the Massacre Ending. Ironically, the Axiom, Stephen, and Satan don't care that Nanashi becomes a Creator. They just ask that he doesn't rule the universe like YHVH.

>>170030664
>Humans don't want to be ruled by a creator god of any kind

Most humans do.

>>170030763
Too bad, humans should've sided with the Divine Powers instead of being mindless Flynn Fags.

>>170017383
no mt2 no vote

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What we can expect from SMT switch?

>>170033581
we know jack frost is probably in along with power man odin, mara, every model in the teaser

What was Speesh Marine doing during IV and Apocalypse? He got the literal reversal ending that Aleph got in SMT II.

>>170033581
trash

>>170033581
a turn based rpg

>>170033581
either they're keeping SMT IV designs for no reason at all, or this is SMT IV:3

>>170034485
>:3

Reminder that you are not a true megatennist unless you beat and ace Catherine in hard mode.

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>>170035897

>>170036025
"Catherine in hard mode" is a weird way to spell SMT 1 & 2.

>>170033581
Why do people think the MegaTen game coming to the Switch is going to be SMT V? Was it actually shown in the trailer to be a main series game? What if Atlus is rebooting the original Megami Tensei to test the waters? I mean the Switch is a fucking failure anyways.

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I want to fuck Mirai.

Was Inanna right to want her powers back from Danu in SMTIV Apocalypse?

>>170040054
I really, really like this post.

Do you think we could turn this into a meme?

>>170040054
Looks like something straight out of Digimon.

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I'm an insider, this is the next SMT game's protagonist

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I haven't gone on here in a while. Do we still post Hoy?

>>170040596
No. It's a Dog eat Dog world, after all.

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>>170042420
No this is.

Where's my medieval SMT with witchcraft and demon summoning rituals

>Dubhe defeated by a truck
I can't stop laughing
what the fuck just happened

SMTV should be open world with crafting.

>>170045517
Open world meme aside, it would be nice to actually see demons when walking around instead of random encounters, or whatever the fuck you want to call those things in 4/4A.

Are there more kingdoms aside from Mikado in the IV/IV:A world? Sometimes they imply Mikado and Tokyo are ALL that's left of humanity.

>>170048852
Most likely. Never doubt a Jap's ethnocentrisism.

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Y-yeah, DDS waterways

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Playing Megaten 1, and just lost levels on my characters after fighting Loas in Marzuka. What kind of bullshit is this?

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>>170028316

Deader than friends.

Newfag here, Would you say this is a good representation of the alignments in SMT?:
>Law: Order, Hierarchy.
Government type: fascist starship troopers like
Ideologies: Jihadism

>Chaos: Freedom, Anarchy
Government type: anything goes- Mad Max tier anarchy
Ideologies: Egoism, Nihilism

If so, damn it is hard to pick between those two, both are terrible with some good sprinkled in.

>>170056213
You bumped the thread, idiot. Whitefags are so useless.

Just beat Duallahan in IV. Does the game ever get hard again like it was early on? I've been steam rolling through everything for a while now.

>>170040054
Brings back memories.

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>>170042663
Yes. Just don't post "big" uncompressed pics or you'll trigger megabyte-kun.

>>170057568
Not really. Only the beginning is hard. You may have trouble with one story boss later on in the second parallel dimension shenanigan but the rest of the hard bosses are all optional, like Beelzebub or the Fiends.

>>170057568
it's easy just like every other smt game

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Should I play/avoid the SMT1 version of iOS?

>>170062438
I would play it if you are fine with touch screen controls.

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Hoy.

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>>170039338
Mainline is turning 25 this year, not Megaten. Megaten's gonna be 30 this September and SMT's gonna turn 25 in October. So it's obvious that both of the projects will be about SMT, if the logo they got isn't helpful enough.

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Hoy

>>170062438
The SNES version is playable with the patches. Don't know about iOS

>>170053786
neutral

>>170036025
>Reminder that you are not a true megatennist
Thank fucking God.

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best girl

Let's survive!

Is Chaos only Fallen race now?

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Which female demon do you want to fug?

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>>170077217
Scat

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>>170077217
Gore[spoiler/]

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>>170022005
>that other unironic lawtist?
>singular
Dude, we were more than beadman and one guy.

>>170025278
>complete bitch

>>170016986
how many endings are in SMTIV:A?

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Every day

>>170078794
2 real ones and two early bad ends.

>>170079057
wew and i thought there would be more
currently in for my chaos run to coplete the game

Is there a known freeze in raidou vs the soulless army around when he's in the shadow realm looking for yugiohs blue eyes six page dragon because I got a freeze last night after feeling like the game was just taking slightly longer than I'm accustomed to in terms of load times but I'm not confident if it was actually taking longer to load than usual but there was a weird glitchy sound after pressing x to exit each post-battle screen

>>170078832
Come back to SMT!

>>170050360
use the devil analyzer, look for energy drain

use hanmahan on them

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>>170058165
Do you remember the "too cute" poster?

>>170079171
>going for one of the bad ends

>>170079601
forgot to mention I'm using a ps2 lol

SMT x Kikokugai

What's the best Megaten soundtrack to listen to on a train ride?

>>170082002
Etro Anime.

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>guy who dodges a bull at the touradas can wreck the gods
wtf atlus

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>>170082145
Good thing I have an album downloaded.

>>170082256
brb, gonna dodge some bulls.

>>170082256
Spaniards confirmed most powerful race.

>>170082469
>andalucia
I got some bad news for your padre, garcia.

>>170078282
>one of the coolest demons in the entire series is a tall guy wearing a suit in pristine condition

recarn

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What are the best skills to have on a MAG Abel in DeSU 1/OC?

So far I'm at level 18 with the following:
STR - 6
MA - 11
VI - 6
AGI - 11

Got Elec Dance, Zan, Bufu, Anti-Force, with Mana and Life Bonus as passives and Hustle as Auto.

>>170087978
Holy Dance and Drain. Until you get those two just use the others Dance skills.

>>170088540
I'm only on Day 3 right now, do those get skill cracked soon or later? Planning on doing Amane route at any rate currently.

>>170088747
You can get Holy Dance on Day 5 and Drain a day or two earlier I think.

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>>170072258
>thanking god
Megatennist detected.

Hopefully they remake Raidou with the traditional battle system

>>170088747
You can get Drain at the end of day 3, Beldr fight

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>>170082145
Listening to Danger while it's raining is max comfy.

>>170082145
SH may be cool due to its ambient tones.
The Raidou OST might be good too.

Hopefully they will make more action rpgs there's no reason for turn base combat with current technology

>>170082256
If he was so good, he wouldn't have died.

>>170090474
>No reason
????
Turn based combat is objectively the best form of combat

>>170087978
I think AG is good for a mage MC.
Just don't neglect VI so you can use some other skills and nulls.

I hope they remake the SMT franchise as a card game.

Megaten mobage fucking when

>>170087978
Drain is so OP in DeSu1 you could just dump pure MA until it is maxed unless you want resistances

Drain carried me throughout DeSu1. Nerfed to fuck in DeSu 2

>>170091090
Id play it

Megaten with a bunch of half breeds because some demons decided to get busy with tons of human ladies like Zeus

>>170090663
>>170091112
>>170089048
Max out AGI and MAG to 30 then start buffing VIT?

>>170092023
To 40 but yeah.

>>170091891
This could work, but they could fuck it up by making too many OCs

>>170092023
Once you max out MAG start doing AGI but you should up VIT/STR to whatever you need for resistances you want.

On Day 7 you want Null or Drain Fire at least.

>>170092023
you don't need to max agi imo

>>170092023
Don't worry too much about AGI, max MAG, get VIT/STR to 16 and then raise AGI until you get bored of the game

>>170053786
Please respond? My one friend is telling me that law is terrible like there's almost no argument for it. Is he right?

>>170092896
Yes.

>>170092896
ye, law is shite

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JACK FROST!

>>170092896
only if you're a pleb

true top tier people go full law

>>170092896
shijima is law but without the cocksucking

I want to fuck all jackfrost posters

>>170096057
lewd

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will he ever return

>>170096334
He was already a major character in the last game.
It'll take it a while to return.

any reason to play amor academy after the initial plot cucking or is it all slow affection grinding from here on?

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>>170096057

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What's the strongest Frost?

>>170098185
King Frost!

>>170098185
LuciFrost!

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO SUFFER

>>170102201
(Not true by the way)

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>>170080454
Thank you, i did not know that.

Is this party good enough to fight Hecate?

>>170103058
i THINK that's what i had on my first playthrough

if your yumiko knows that one spell that heals everyone i don't think you'll have much a problem

>>170103058
>>170103772
also re-arrange your party by max HP

yumiko should not be this close to the top

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>>170103772
>>170103889

Wew easiest boss fight in the game so far. Loki kicked my ass.

What demons have Dekaja so I can kill that Tiamat cunt on SJ?

I have a SNES emulator and I wanna play SMT1

Which translated ver should I download?

>>170107807
How about just put Ref Ice?

Far as I remember Ref damage don't reflect with the elements.

>>170108027
Because making a whole team with ref ice is harder

>>170107917
the one in the op

>>170108161
Don't put +5

Keep stuff around +3 or 4, anything higher gets wiped.

But well, daphne and hamsa have, they are the lowest level demons with the skills

>>170017283
Its a blatantly evil ending. Its not clear that there's even any positives. On top of everything else, you wipe out all technology and are starting again from zero.

>>170022005
Beadman moved to reddit where he wrote like 400 pages about the themes of smt for their wiki, and has a small amount of lackeys who unironically worship him like a god.

>>170109419
What wiki?

>>170108491
are you trying to call me stupid or something.

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>>170080454
Looks like every other enemy in flames area can drain levels on hit. Kind of annoying having to Trastart and save each time i clear a floor. Oh well

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>>170109419
>and has a small amount of lackeys who unironically worship him like a god.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vHRMeRszw4

>>170109587
https://www.reddit.com/r/MegaTen/wiki/index

Scroll down to the mythology and themes section. Clink on one of the first few things in the section. Imagine that times thirty.

>>170109628
it's definitely not as bad in the next dungeon from what i remember

>>170109846
>General - Ethics and Politics of Alignments
>General - Theistic perspectives of Alignments
>General - Pantheistic perspectives of Alignments
>General - Symbols and aesthetics of the sides
>General - Physics and Philosophy of Physics
>General - Philosophy of Mind
>General - Carl Jung
>General - Modern Paganism
>General - Alchemy
>Abrahamic - Christianity and Judaism
>Abrahamic - Christianity - Heterodox
>Abrahamic - Gnosticism
>Abrahamic - Kabbalah
>Abrahamic - Satanism
>Eastern - Buddhism and Hinduism
>Eastern - Shinto
>Eastern - Taoism
>Eastern - Confucianism
>Eastern - Mohism
>Eastern - Cao Dai
>Eastern - Other Chinese Religion
>Greek - Plato (and legacy)
>Greek - Stoicism
>Greek - Epicureanism
>Greek - Pythagoreanism
>Greek - Other Philosophy Schools
good fucking lord

>>170109846
>>170109970
jesus

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How you guys feel about Bunny kun being more popular than Abel?

>>170110189
I clicked on the first page, and it took me fifteen seconds just to scroll to the bottom.

>>170108491
all i find is a patch tho

>>170110189
The worst part is I actually skimmed through that first section about Ethics and Politics and it's just pure unadulterated lawtism writ extremely large. Fucker literally wrote an entire dissertation.

>>170109970
So, does someone who isn't me want to read any of these, to tell me if they're worth reading?

>>170109970
>taking alignments seriously
Top autism

>>170110287
Persona is also more popular than other SMT games, that just show Atlus knowns how to pander to casual weebs when needed

>>170110547
oh i thought the one in the op had the rom with the patch. maybe someone can upload it for you because i dont have it anymore

/smtg/ where the fuck is my SMT MUD?

>>170110730
Alignments are love. Alignments are life.

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>>170110740
Still makes me sad that they decided animate DeSu 2 and not the first one.

Going full edge with first game would be alot better than just try force it into the second game story.

>>170111327
The devil survivor 2 anime is so wierd. Its the type of thing you'd think wouldn't exist, but does, but you don't remember it does since its shit. I really wanted it to be good. Or at least passable. But its too incoherent even to recommend to people. The only good things about it was good music, and passable art.

>>170110547
Download the rom and apply the patch with IPS patcher from romhacking.net

>>170016986
How do sales work in SMT4A? I sell a bunch of relics to the shop and they tell me they're gonna have a sale soon, but when is "soon"? How do I make the sale actually happen?

>>170111327
I haven't played DeSu2 yet, but the first one would be fitting for an anime,

>>170112985
I think it's related to the story.
Make progress in the story and go back to those stores.

>>170114782
I see, thanks anon.

>>170110643
You could just read wikipedia instead

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>>170111327
Because Devil Survivor 2 - Record Breaker was being advertised by it getting an animation. It had already been awhile since Devil Survivor 1 - Overclocked came out. Yes, it would've been a dream to get demon king route of DeSu 1 animated, and all the alternate routes done in bonus episodes for the BDs and then a SJ and Nocturne or SMT II anime as well.

But these are all dreams that'll never happen into being actualized in reality.

>>170120003
>demon king route
keep dreaming senpai if anything they would make Haru's route instead of the meme one

>>170120439
Nah one of the most likely would've been Amane.

>Demon King route
>meme
Nein.

>>170120439
Demon King is the best route

>>170110547
The patched roms are literally in the OP. They're the dropbox links in the Tips and Tricks pastebin.

>>170120439
>meme route
>the route that's foreshadowed "demon king" most of the story
Nigga.

Also for those of you played all of IV and Apocalypse, what does the DLC from Fatlus include for those games?

Is Breath worth it on Demonhee-ho? His magic sucks

do we know what kazuma kaneko is doing?
I really hope he is leading the charge on smt5

also any hopes for smt5 because I either want the best smt game with difficulty settings changing map difficulty or the worst waifu-shittery and lampooning of persona

>>170122258
When was it stated it was SMT V?

>>170122162
Yes.

>>170122378
we only have the trailer but the logo states the dates of 1, 2, 3, and 4 so i think that is what is likely to come out

>>170122662
Didn't they do that for Apocalypse and Strange Journey before that too?

>>170122860
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-PO7XZtn5c

Don't think so but the SJ Jap commerical is pretty boss.

>>170122985
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLPwD2o1FB4

Nocturne's was pretty amazing too.

Who do you prefer Louisa or Hikaru?

>>170124660
Neither.

Recarm.

>>170124660
Louise Ferra > Hikaru.

>>170124660
Louisa looks like a dumb ass bitch, but Hikaru can get it.

>>170124660
hikaru has fangs, so her

I ran out of life stones
this can't be happening

What happened to the collabedit page?
Also the lyrics for fierce battle seem to be off, I dont hear "Judgement has come to you", sounds more like "do you aid lucifer,do you?"

>>170127379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAaHDL3352c

>>170127541
Holy shit

>>170127541
Was the SJ OST sung by gothic He-hoos?

>>170129010
Yes

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>>170129098
>>170129010

to you

>>170129098
>sector made of evil and suffering
>no hee hoos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDbWUScTiAI
Why?

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What's your favorite dungeon from every mainline game?

>>170129695
American Embassy
Coliseum
Assembly of Nihilio (part ii)

havent played iv

Noob here. Just saw the OVA after reading the translations of the first two novels. The cuts compared to the book weakened the characterization, but the demons were still stylish. There isn't one for the second one, is there? Seeing pregnant Ohara's demonic self would have been great...

>>170132735
nope, no OVAs for the other books, you won't get to see nakajima fight set in space

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So im getting something in the next game? I didn't even know i had silk thread.

I can't beat persona 4 (PS2)

>>170134832
you get izanimi's robe in next game

>>170137860
Why not?

>>170137905
Ah I see, thanks. Hopefully i will finish this game in a few days, I just begun the palace.

>>170138434
i think the only other thing to transfer to the next game is rag's card but i haven't played it myself

i listened to a podcast supposedly you may want to make sure you have an orb from an urn or you cant beat the final boss so if you didn't talk to some guy about you never finding the secret of the orb and never freeing a guy from prison for his bracelet you may want to do that

>>170138354
it's boring, sweet atmosphere is too rich and it puts me to sleep. I want to finish it before I play P5 because I feel as though I'll never be able to go back after playing that game.

>>170138762
Yeah there is a Bottomless Urn that i encountered near Purski, but was not able to take. It said that Nakajima had to solve the mystery of it before i could take it.

Im sure ill get to that point eventually.

>>170139216
look it up if you did not get the white dragon orb lucifer gets diarahan

http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Rick

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>>170109018
Depends on how great it's to be a human+ in Nanashi's universe which we can only speculate, plus all the murderous demons on tokyo were turned into wind. That might outweight the negatives.

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>>170139832
I have the bracelet, i guess i have to talk to an NPC to get the jewel from the urn.

>>170140143
after hearing about the vase's secret from a skeleton in Infini Palace 4F

don't have a map but hopefully this narrows it down a bit good luck bro

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>>170140323
Thanks. Gonna wrap this game up tomorrow. The random encounter rate is insane, probably one of the highest of any game i have played in recent memory.

Now im off to have dreams of Scathatch.

>>170140903
Sweet thighs for you anon

>>170109018
Nanashi is a creator god. What use is technology?

>>170141865
To mass-produce angels like Metatron

Why couldn't Mastema take over as your patron demon in Bonds route?

>>170141865
A computer program fucked everything up for the last creator.

>>170141990
That didn't seem to work for record scratch. Massacre route emphasizes individual strength more than anything.

>>170141990
you should mass produce low level angels only, so future godkillers are stuck grinding forver

>>170140903
Good taste.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL-Y9KT_kVk

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>>170145206
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08ImyEZBHcM

>>170142547
Lillith had the right idea.

Mass produce sex demons so they can charm humans and kill them. Just add some incubi to the mix, so you can cater to everyone.

>>170155953
Fag.

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>>170156020

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>>170156143

Do demons in SH level up or anything or should I just stay in a dungeon, recruit as much as I can and fuse

>>170157970
Demons don't level up in SH. Recruit and fuse as much as possible to keep them useful.

Hoy.

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He-hoo!

Why do you continue to struggle?

>>170167795
Because I have friends!

>>170129695
Sector Eridanus.

>>170167795
I am a Son of Man.

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>>170168638

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>>170169023
I love that dungeon so fucking much. Strange Journey is what got me into DRPGs.

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>>170169384
I'm pretty sure I spent more time on Sector Eridanus even when I finally realized I couldn't get through it on my own without a guide then I have on most other games.

>First game play completion: 80-90+ hours

Strange Journey was such a great game. Still boggles my mind that one IGN/GameStop reviewer giving it a low score and comparing it constantly to Persona when it obvious the fucker never played a mainline SMT game before.

Someone post the SMTIV pic with review notes comparing it to Persona

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>>170169797

>>170168638
same, but moreso for the feel of the place

>>170169927
"The Dark Souls of Persona" always gets me

>>170169384
>DRPGs
lol

>>170169927
>a step back in some ways from Nocturne
He's not wrong.
inb4 b-but muh qol
No go away.

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>>170169927
>Ancient battle between GOOD and EVIL
Where's this from? I remember watching it, but I can't find that review anymore.

>>170170325
They're great.

>>170170325
They're fucking great nigga. Have a 3DS for all the SMT and EO goodness and the Vita for all those DRPGs coming out on it.

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dude weed lmao

>>170181323
xd

>>170167795
I have people who I won't let down.

>>170181323
>Shield All
FUCK YOU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cqj_6I6fGo

Your favorite demon of choice has suddenly become real and is now living with you, what happens?

>>170184196
Lucifer.
He might change forms and sneak into my bed at night to try and turn me into a Chaosfag (like in that one image with spess muhreen) or a Demi-fiend. Aside from that not much I guess, he's a chill dude.

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>>170184196
Best lawn ornament ever.

Keeps kids off the lawn and religious fucks

>>170185356
I wonder if anyone would complain to the village for someone having this on their lawn. I almost want to try it but I don't know where I'd find a human sized smt demon statue.

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>>170184196
Hopefully something like this

>>170184196
>IV's Masakado
He's the size of a city so I guess I can live inside him or rent space to people.

>>170184196
we do lewd stuff

>>170181323
>Revert
FUCK YOU

Hoy.

>SH has rhythm minigame to recruit demons
woa

Should I skip iv and pick up apocalypse

>>170194279
No

>>170194279
Sure, IV is trash. The only good thing about it is in Final too.

>>170194279
not IMO

Or should I just grab monster hunter generations

>>170194854
Sure, Final is trash too.

>>170194854
best to just avoid SMT until Atlus drops outmodded turn based combat

>>170197231
I'm sure an ARPG is what SMT needs, right?
Because those are ssoosoooosooososososossoosososoosoos good!

Hopefully they remake Raidou with the traditional battle system

Reminder that turn base game plane only existed due to technological limitations there's no excuse to still use it unless you're a indieshit dev.

>>170199491
But it's the best kind of battle?

>>170194279
I did since they weren't selling cartridges for IV but there were for Apocalypse. I could have gotten it online and played first but shrugs

SLASH SLASH SLASH
GUARD
DEMON USES AGI
RUN AROUND LIKE CHICKEN WITH HEAD CHOPPED OFF
*repeat*

raidou a shit

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>>170204023
>raidou a shit

>>170199491
Man I hope this is bait. To me stuff the newest final fantasy's combat is cheesy and dumb.
>>170199659
This Turn based is comfy.

recarn

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is there a list of essential megaten films?

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>>170207089
Not always

>>170212356
I love DDS, but the Seraph demon design is SHIT

>>170212235
tokyo: the last megalopolis

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>Beast Eye
>Tempest with a critical hit
>Beast Eye
>Beast Eye
>Makakaja
>Makakaja
>Makakaja
>Megidoloan
>Megidoloan

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>slap some refs on black frost.
>Watch everyone without megido or drain kill itself trying to damage him.

He should be the king of bel, not abel.

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>>170214380
>there are people who use that video to complain about Nocturne

>>170214752
It's not even that hard. He waste all his turns casting Dekunda

>>170214495
He is Black Frost, not Belck Frost

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>>170213556
Nice. On youtube too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHwRHSsypT0

I just beat SMT: Devil Survivor 2. I'm starting NG+ and I hope to fuck that I selected the correct bonuses from my options.

If I want to unlock more points, what's the best option? My original route I got most of the Confidant bonuses, Anguished One's route, and no leader deaths. I was thinking my second run I should go No Free Battles, do all of the Bonus bosses (though I'm worried that the lack of grinding on Free Battles will make that impossible) and the Triumphant ending.

>>170215017
Bonus Bosses without carry over demons at least 4 near impossible unless you grind out the DLC exp missions

They dont count as free battle

>>170215017
No free battles are more doable on ng+, for extra bosses you going need grind a lot.

Or get the DLC, but them later you just going one round them with multistrike.

>>170215331
In that case maybe I should save the secret bosses for the my NG++ run.

>>170215241
I got four demons carried over but they're not super amazing. I just picked the ones with the most immunities/holy skills/drain/that one skill that let's you attack twice so I could plow through the game faster.

>>170215578
DeSu secret bosses can be really one rounded, aside Alice far as I remember, they take ridiculous amount of grinding and have no elemental weakness and some retarded field spells, on top of hitting like trucks to even most prepared teams.

Even Alice takes effort to properly kill in one round.

>>170215578
>not super amazing
Gonna get fucked son. The fodder enemies on the field hit like trucks and will be way over your level when you get to them. I think when I tried Nebiros on my first NG+ I was like wtf. The enemies were level 50 or so and I was like level 2x or so.

>>170216198
Level do affect the damage a bit, even if you have jacked up stats the damage that you take will be higher.

This forces you to make some outside of box tactic and demon racial skills, that or buy DLC.

>>170217129
Is the DLC actually worth the price?

>>170218874
Kinda, they are mostly for skip grinding.

They help a lot in NG+, if you think it worth go ahead.Or just pirate.

>>170218874
Mod that 3DS already son.

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Hey /smtg/, if you were forced into a life or death decision between joining the Demi-Fiend and Speesh Marine's side for neutral or Flynn and Nanashi's for Chaos/Law, which would you go with?

>>170220526
Neutral all the way. Also Demi-fiend alone is arguably as powerfull as the Dagda-souped Nanashi at the end of the Edgelord route.

>>170220792
IMO:

Aleph >= Demi-Fiend > Speesh Marine/Demon King Abel > Autism Bunny > Flynn > SMT 1 protag.

Dunno shit about Nanashi but heard he can't do jackshit without Dagda providing him juice and on of the EX-missions confirming he's been killed five or six times in the past before.

>>170221014
how smt 1 protag so low he can at least summon more demons while space marine becomes a vending machine

>>170221457
Gameplay mechanics. Mem Aleph literally confirms Speesh marine is the reason she gets defeated and so does Gore before the final fight. SMT 1 protag doesn't really have much going for him other then being a super bad-ass normal guy with demons.

>vending machine
Tired of this meme tbqh senpai.

>>170221569
>>170221457
SMT1 protag is cyberpunk Jesus, his power is basically winning, Stephen seems to imply he's the most powerful messiah.

>>170221457
SJ protagonist beat the mother of all demon kind who is the only other being SMT besides Aleph to fuck up YHVH and even dismembered him. New Game+ Cycle has same protagonist getting blessed by Baby YHVH after beating him who casually bitch-slapped Metatron so hard he was OHKO'd by his pimp hand.

Dunno never played SMT I, only II, If..., III/Nocturne, Strange Journey, IV, and IV - Apocalypse. Demon King Abel is also pretty strong but I don't think he comes close to SJ, Nocturne, or II protags.

>>170221457
Isn't the vending machine thing only if you don't get the best sword and gun in the game for Strange Journey and get a shit AGI or STR build at the start of the game?

>>170222375
IF you get lucky with Mag gains, you can deal some decent damage with gun spells.

>>170222754
Yeah but Peacemarker gun (Chaos) and Sword of Heaven (Law) and not unequipping either after going back to Antilla with that alignment thing with the fairies lets you do some serious fuck ton of damage.

Hell you even get the Frost Cannon early in the game and its pretty fucking versatile even in the end-game. More important question is, what item did you guys make from Fafnir? The armor? The ring?

humans can't even level up in SJ, the marine is a pure beta

I haven't been here for a month what memes and shitposting did I miss

Also Devil Summoner 1 is better than Strange Journey.

Windows 98 3D maze is better than Strange Journey

>>170227097
It has better textures, at the least.

>>170227097
>>170227097
That's an odd way of writing Persona Q.

>>170227000
Atsuro is a meme now.

You remember Atsuro, right? Well, he's back in the form of memes.

>>170227283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKYIfOUmd9I

dae reddit here?

>>170227707
Hush beadman

>>170227000
Devil Summoner is garbage.

>that little HEE-HOOO every time you kill a Jack Frost in DeSu 1
It makes me sad.

>>170221014
Autism Bunny is only strong because of skill crack. I feel like canonically he's just some shmoe that happens to be good at tactics.

>>170230452
Not saying he's anything more then a mid tier but he did eventually beat Polaris, an ayyyyyyyyyyyyyylmaooooooo/demon (?) who controlled the Akashic Records that let him basically erase worlds or rewrite them at will. I mean Abel could skill crack too, so could Atsuro, Yuzu, and Keisuke as well.

>>170222880
I think I went ring but it's been a while.

>>170230597
Fair enough. Polaris never really seems to be given as much weight as other SMT antagonists I guess, and Autism Bunny doesn't become some glorious God or ultra powerful devil in any endings, he just makes some new world or fucks it all up.

>>170221708
i thought he was cyberpunk adam

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>>170230890
>and Autism Bunny doesn't become some glorious God or ultra powerful devil in any endings
Doesn't this ED count?

>>170230890
Same with Brahman in DDS. I mean as cool as Abel is in Devil Survivor 1/Overclocked and the entire concept of the Throne of Bel, ultimately even becoming Demon King isn't a big deal as Lucifer even admits he doesn't really care and Loki thinks its a just amusing as a distraction.

Still what was the best thing going for Autism Rainbow? Abel becomes Demon King of Hell, Space Marine gets blessed by YHVH Jr and beats up Mem Aleph, TDE ending where the Demi-Fiend leads the legions of Hell with Lucifer against YHVH in Nocturne, and Aleph beating up YHVH with Satan and Lucifer's help in II.

>>170231150
I think World of Merit is probably the only ending where Autismo keeps his powers. He doesn't get a boost or anything, it's basically the World of Grinding for all of eternity and Polaris herself says that he'll get himself killed off in his old age.

I'm pretty sure every other ending ends up with Nicea and the demon summoning app no longer functioning. World of Communism makes him a pussy, Diachi's ending goes full Megaman Legends, Triumphant is reset...