/r6g/ - Rainbow Six General

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Echo would use Echoes though

any one here bothered to try out wildlands?

i love frost

>>170495407
i got into the closed beta thanks to an anon on /v/
it was pretty fun, it was kind of shitty at the same time
i heard its way more fun once you get out of the beginning area
ill probably get it on sale for like $15 in a year or two

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>>170495232
>Witness the power of my stand [Mr. Roboto]

>>170495415
so do i

>>170495407
Yeah, I like it. It's not great and feels kinda like Future Soldier-tier retarded bullshit if you play on the absolute hardest but it's still great fun. The open world is really pretty and tacticool crouch walking into down and silenced shooting a bunch of nerds is always fun.

I like it and don't regret buying but you may wanna wait for a sale.

>>170495685
>tfw not white so BLACKED doesnt affect me

>>170495842
>implying BLACKED won't affect you

He's coming for you, anon.

>>170496004
ew gross, why would he be thinking of me while coming?

dead?

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here's what the commonwealth flag looks like

>>170499714
oh

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>>170499714

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Wheres my Union Jack ubi?

What are the worst guns in the game?

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>>170499826
tfw i thought it would be a british flag since it was win rounds as SAS

>>170499982
me too

>>170499932
Whichever ones your team is currently using.

>People ITT not knowing what the Commonwealth nations are

WHEW

>>170500178
i know what the commonwealth of nations is, but the challenge was win 30 rounds with the SAS so naturally i'm going to assume that it's going to be a union jack. a challenge that would have made more sense (and been more fitting) would be win X number of rounds with SAS or JTF2 as oppose to giving them separate challenges.

>>170500178
We haven't had a war against the Commonwealth yet, how else would we know?

>>170500402
>>170499982
>>170499932
We already got the union jack at some point in the past, don't remember what for though.

>>170500516
no we haven't gotten the union jack charm yet. there have been union jack themed weapon skins and a mute headgear though.

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Can a drawfriend do an edit of this with Echo?

>>170500516
wrong
see here>>170499928

When will the 3 speed peeksters of small hitboxes be deleted from the game?

>>170500402
What's the wording on the challenge say?

>>170500487
education
ɛdjʊˈkeJʃ(ə)n
noun
1.
the process of receiving or giving systematic instruction, especially at a school or university.

>>170500653
>>170500706
I could've sworn I had seen a Union Jack charm once before

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>>170499932
For attacker guns with no alternative, descending order:
Thermite's 556xi
Capitao's Para-308
Blackbeard's Scar-H

Defender guns, descending order:
Valkyrie's MPX
Smoke's FMG-9
Rook/Doc's P90, Echo's MP5SD (debatable)
Mute's MP5k

Dogshit tier:
Capitao's M249
GIGN P9 pistol

>>170500856
theres a union jack bundle for mute but the charm is a tea bag

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>>170500897
How is the SG556 any worse than the L85?

>>170500897
What wrong with the Scar?

>>170500897
>GIGN P9 pistol

TAKE THAT BACK

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>>170500667

If were doing samurai jack

Id prefer this with Echo and sledge

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-LyFMCIpok

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>>170500897
Is this bait because the guns you listed are at least adequate.

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>>170501086
The 556xi has high horizontal recoil, second only to the Scar-H. Its vertical recoil is also wildly random on the first and second shot, so you can never learn to pull down the muzzle perfectly 50% of the time. It has low ammo pool, high recoil, slow firerate, and not enough damage to compensate. The L85 is perfectly usable and average, being the most stable and easiest AR to control outside of the C7E.

>>170501110
Nothing much, it's not hard to use but low damage, low firerate, and high horizontal deviation in a spray means it's on the lower end of ARs

>>170501273
Name a SINGLE gun worse than the P9

>>170501479
Doc's gadget gun. I don't think I've gotten a single kill while using it.

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>>170495415
>Ywn get caught in one of Frosts traps and proceed to be raped by her

Whats the point of living?

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>>170501685
I've gotten ASSISTS with it. That's more than the P9 could ever do.

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>>170501886

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>>170502241
>tfw you will never give frost heart pupils

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Why so slow? I know it's a Wednesday, but it's normally not nearly this dead this time of night.

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>>170502361
>tfw you have

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>>170502361
>Tfw you will never give any girl heart pupils because it's physically impossible

>>170502854
Servers are up so everyone is playing the game

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HOW the FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO CONTROL THE C8's RECOIL

Fucking canadians every time

>>170504227
get good

>>170504227
>he down move his mouse down to compensate for recoil
how copper r u?
also use the muzzle brake

>>170504227
broski do you even move your mouse

Is it weird that I love Fuze's LMG?

>>170504887
no,
it's pretty fucking fun

>>170504887
Nah. It's easily the most usable of all the LMGs and a decent alternative to the AK-12.

>Get matched up against the same rank 200 diamond players 5 games in a row
fuckin EPIC matchmaking ubi

>>170468245
>In the event that we are not able to double the Renown of the Commonwealth Day Challenge itself

Back up the fucking phone Ubisoft. Are you telling me a multi-billion dollar company in one of their most successful multiplayer games can't edit a numerical value on a spread sheet?

Is there a downside to the range extender? Frost's only other option for her SMG is a suppressor, which sucks

>>170506140
How much longer do we have on these challenges?

>>170505686
>B E T A
:^)

>>170506220
Recoil is increased by a very small amount, and unless things have been changed since the last time I've seen, damage at range is normally only going to be increased by around 4-5 at max, normally 3.
I prefer not using it on Frost's smg since the long barrel can occasionally give you away, and it's really not enough of an upside for me to give a shit either way.

>>170506140
spaghetti code.
From everything I've seen of the issues Siege has, it seems like they almost never fucking ever write their code with the future, or modularity in mind.
Every time they make a major change to the core of the game, it just fucks with something else because they don't isolate their variables or mechanics well enough.

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So the challenges work now?

>>170506932
booru u twit

>>170506934
yes

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>>170506932

http://i.imgur.com/uP16pCK.jpg

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>>170506932
>>170507149
close enough?

>>170507149
>little toy

Echo with lil dick confirmed

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>>170506932

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>>170507149
>japs wishing they had dicks that big

so im guessing the artist is japanese or asian then

>>170507414
exceptions =/= rule

>>170506701
>spaghetti code

This triggers me the most. Because it's either insane incompetence on the sustainment team, or the team who made the game just threw this together without a second thought really.

I really, really want to like this game but every single way in which Ubisoft is approaching it is fucking terrible.

>>170507610

>or the team who made the game just threw this together without a second thought really.


Ding ding ding

You are correct

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>he's to your right
>oh ok that means he's in the doorway to the right here
>get shot in the side
>killcam shows they were crouching literally 3 feet from me on my right side
F U C K

>>170495232

Question: what weapons have a burst fire mode? I know the GIGN MP5 has a 3-round burst and Thatcher's AR33 has a 2-round burst. Any others? I would think Mute's MP5K and FBI's UMP would have burst modes, but I haven't checked.

Anybody use burst fire?

>>170507610
>>170507698

A T E A M O F 2 5

>>170507698
Even the stuff the current team CAN control, like community outreach, they don't do right. It's so fucking hard to find communications. The website takes a million years to load, and going to the "blog" I got hit with an age gate... All the things in the blog are marketing communications about bundles and shit for sale.

Their official forums is a small icon on the below, after stuff like their YT Channel and Twitch.

I really hate how Blizzard can make their community manager and all their forums feels like an indie game, and Siege, the game that has much more of a soul and personality to it, feels like this empty husk of financial exploitation and hat sales.

Wait, when did they add barrel attachments to pistols? Is that why I cant hit drones with them for shit anymore? They increased recoil on sidearms?

>>170508038
Mira's vector has a burst.

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>>170507698
>>170507610
>25 initial developers
>Initially overshadowed by the [cancelled] future release of Patriots
>Lower budget than most Ubi titles due to being multiplayer only
>Cut corners and slap code together to reach your release deadline
>"It's probably going to die within a year anyways, at most we'll release a few new maps, don't worry about developing with heavy expansion in mind"
>*Cue Patriot's cancellation*
>"Well Siege-team, here's some leftover budget and manpower since we already made assets and signed contracts for these workers"
>"Oh shit we can actually make a decent game now"
>Make a good game
>Gets the go-ahead from corporate on continued budget and support after a suprisingly strong start
>Spaghetti code from the early times haunts them to this day

>>170508127
>I really hate how Blizzard can make their community manager and all their forums feels like an indie game, and Siege, the game that has much more of a soul and personality to it, feels like this empty husk of financial exploitation and hat sales.
The biggest reason for that is the split between corporate and development sides of the company.
With Blizzard, the side that manages and decides where the money goes is more closely related to the dev team, and there's a lot more creative freedom due to that.
With Ubi, the corporate side is more separated from the developers, and generally has the final word on decisions, and can push content deadlines upon the devs that can distract them from keeping their priorities in check (ex: bugfixes before new content)
Since Ubi is relatively larger in scale, corporate looks at the big picture, mostly with money in mind, and ignores important details that need attention like major bugs or server quality. They see content releases drawing in the most players, so they prioritize those over stabilizing the game's core.

>>170508268
Recoil never changed for pistols, muzzle Brakes on them effectively acted as a buff for pistols across the board.
I have no clue why you're having a harder time hitting drones though, perhaps they slimmed down their hitboxes at some point without telling anyone.

>>170508747
Siege had a strong start?

>>170507856
This is why I enjoy that my premade group uses 5 o clock, 6 o clock ect. As directional callouts. Makes callouts a lot more accurate.

>>170508747
>>Spaghetti code from the early times haunts them to this day

I guarantee you all the important people on developing the project pre-release, are no longer here post release. If you don't think Ubisoft didn't assign them to a project with *real* importance after they finished shitting this game out, you are mistaken.

Ubisoft didn't even really believe in this game until, what, a year in?

>>170508747
I think you are also downplaying the competence of the developers. I'd agree with your assessment it's corporate simply fucking up the social aspect, but even with the changes we DO get, they make almost no sense. Do you remember when they buffed Pulse, and everyone was universally WTFing about why Pulse, of all people, got a Buff? There are a ton of patches that have incredible displays of pure incompetence to just think critically about choices, and even issues that should be somewhat easy to fix (Blitz) just simply aren't getting done now going on a year and a half into the game.

So I don't know what the ratio of corporate fuckery to people just being shit at their job is, but I'd probably put it at 50/50. Maybe the dev team also genuinely feels that having an accessible community with personality isn't important?

>>170508904
It must have at least seemed that way to corporate, since they did end up getting cleared for a full year of free dlc content shortly after launch.
People were really excited for its launch because it looked fresh, and despite drawing in a more niche crowd than other major FPS titles it got a good player draw anyways.

>>170504227
muzzle break goes a long way

>>170509035

They got a community manager they dont need anything else :^)

>>170509038
>since they did end up getting cleared for a full year of free dlc content shortly after launch.

This is incorrect. Development of DLC is rolled into the budget of the core game, and Season Pass DLC's are viewed as free profit.

>>170509121
>have community manager
>manages the community by trying not to have one
>rarely shitposts on reddit to give the impression Ubisoft are actual human beings and not rubber skin'd robots

>>170509016
>>170507856
Just use cardinal directions retard

>>170509309
Thats not as specific as clock directions faggot.

>>170509394
>what are secondary intercardinal directions

>>170509035
>I guarantee you all the important people on developing the project pre-release, are no longer here post release
As far as I've seen, most of the project directors and major art/design directors are still on the project, but you're right there is a good chance that lead programmers they had for pre-release were moved onto something else, but its hard to say. None of us work for them.

>Do you remember when they buffed Pulse
Yes I do, but I can also say I think the balance changes they have made have generally been 60/40 good/bad. We've had some shit changes, like the recent Fuze overbuff and the pulse Buff, but a lot of the other changes that have been made to the game have served to make it better.
I think the devs suffer from not playing their own game enough though, that might be a big part of the problem.
Even though I think most changes have been for the better, the few bad ones that have made it in, Blackbeard included, just seem like they would NEVER be thought of by someone that actually played the game on a regular basis.

>>170509607
>Still not as specific

>>170509163
>Development of DLC is rolled into the budget of the core game
Is that necessarily true for all games? It makes sense for Siege, since the delay between launch and their year one content schedule release was really short, but I can't imagine every game is created and launched with a full year of DLC planned in advanced, aside from obvious titles like Battlefield and Call of Duty.

>>170509615
Fuze was overbuffed? Seems to me it was just enough for anyone to want to play him.

>>170509394
SW is SW. 5 O'clock from the orientation of the speaker, the ally being talked about, the ally being talked to, the target, the room? Having to specify an orientation with every direction costs brevity.

>>170509839
I'm talking about making callouts while spectating.

I thought that was what we were talking about.

>>170509615
>As far as I've seen, most of the project directors and major art/design directors are still on the project

I'm speculating but I'd like to find out how much of the staff was retained pre and post launch. Funny thing is even if lets say the project director, or lead game designer, stays on, if all his people under him moved to greener pastures, it can still have the impact I'm talking about.

But we have to agree the pre and post launch Operators and maps have had a huge quality shift. I wouldn't say they are all bad, per say, but none of the DLC maps are on the same tier as some of the best.

Random tangent thought, one of the DLC's I'd love to see them release two smaller, House sized maps instead of the large ass maps we've been getting. I think it'd be really neat to have more of those really tight, focused battle spaces

>60/40 good/bad

That is a bad ratio, like a defies common sense ratio. I don't think "playing the game" has anything to do with it really. Division had the same problems, where even on paper the raw gameplay loops, how the Dark Zone works, and all the stuff... It didn't work on paper.

It all comes down to the puppet master pulling the strings suffers from severe autism

Do people really think Fuze is OP now? He's fine now tbḫ. He's a 1 speed fatass. They have nothing else going for them so they need all the help they can get.

>>170509771
Nowadays, most every game that plans on post-launch content is working on it prelaunch. Not just making the system compatible, but by the time the title launches they're mostly done with (at least) the first DLC pack. This is why it's common to sell a Season Pass with the preorder, they've already projected out the costs.

Obviously, it's not all games. But it's true for Siege, in that you can clearly see Blackbeard standing with the other operatives in one of the prelaunch trailers.

>>170509995
I've disliked a lot of the literal wallpaper we've been getting for maps. It makes doing anything but roaming feel pointless.

One map I think that'd be neat though is an office building that takes place during a storm, where windows on the outside are broken letting stuff blow around and the wind blow.

>>170509771
In MOST cases, the cost of developing DLC is a fraction of the cost of developing the core game. So it's easier to roll it in your profit / loss spreadsheet on the initial product - it's also easier to get a head start on those projects while your development team is still running at 100%. Do you want to keep all your modelers on for a year after the game, or do you want to have them make a bunch of assets for projected DLC and let your "B Team" finish the rest afterwards?

There is many ways to look at it, but think about this: Siege's primary cost was getting those 10 maps, 20 characters,and the entire gameplay working. The game had changed DRASTICALLY over it's lifespan, with constant tweaks and changes until we got what we purchased in Q4 2015. After all that is said and done, what's the cost of adding another 8 characters and 4 maps on top of that to your development cost?

You can even see Blackbeard and some DLC stuff existing pre release. There are concept art of an SAS operative using the C1 SMG, for example.

There are many, many ways you can look at how DLC is made and how it's supported, but in most cases it's easier to get a head start on the DLC and roll chunks of it into the core development than it is to look at it as an entirely separate entity.

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>>170507278
>M-mommy IQ...
>S-so lewd!

>>170509787
>>170510032
He was overbuffed. He needed the extra charge to have more of a presence in any given round, but the additional explosive radius on top of his already ridiculous puck bounce and ejection speed makes avoiding his pucks ridiculously harder than it needs to be. On launch if you saw a puck land at your feet the radius gave you time and space to react and run away if you were quick enough, but the potential avoidance area has been reduced too much.

>>170509995
>Funny thing is even if lets say the project director, or lead game designer, stays on, if all his people under him moved to greener pastures, it can still have the impact I'm talking about.
I agree, I'm just uncertain of whether or not this is the case.

As for the operators, I'd say the visual designs have shifted to be more "flashy" and focused on character over subtley like the vanilla ops. The quailty itself seems better, at least in terms of model and texture detail, but the designs don't hold the same value as vanilla ops so the disparity creates questions of quality shift. As for the maps though, I think it's completely subjective.
Border, Skyscraper and Coastline are some of my favorite maps, but you ask someone else and they hate all three, just like I hate House while shit-tons of others love it. Quality is hard to pin down with something that subjective.

>>170510272
>>170510341
Yeah true, good points. I honestly forgot about the Blackbeard model being visible early on.

>>170510280
That would be cool, but I can understand their aversion to office buildings (and why Skyscraper was a fakeout): it'd be too samey. Imagine most of the rooms of Bank shuffled together, without the wide-open spaces, more cubicle-farm rooms, with the area from Skyscraper's Vent spawn, and that'd be their Office map.

>keep joining games that are already halfway through matches
ENOUGH

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>>170510403
>Also, is it possible to join the TeamSpeak server on a phone??

Cause apparently no one visits the discord, and id like to play R6 with my /R6G/ frands on PS4
but it seems very difficult to get T.S. on android

>>170510552
Well it's not like they have to make the whole thing nothing but cubicles, just make the main area an interesting cubicle concept (like it's been clearly shuffled about for Defenders) and then fill it with hallways, lobbies and lounges.

I just want to play Die Hard in Rainbow Six Siege is all.

>>170510280
I'd like that too, sure.

I just dislike how large all of the maps are. For the same reasons people say they hate Yacht and Plane, I love the variety. It makes controlling your space very, very effective. As an attacker, you can make entry and cover yourself easily. Same with House - once you get in house, it's pretty hard for a roamer to fuck you since there are only two stair cases, and one of them is suicide to try and use as a flank at times.

Whereas maps like Border & Skyscraper - Holy fuck roamer paradise. They can come from fucking anywhere. Meanwhile Hereford and Chalet, and to even some extent Oregon, since access routes are a bit more constricted, roamers can't just fucking pop out out of nowhere and "SURPRISE MOTHERFUCKER" you consistently. Coastline is literally the "get fucked by roamers map" if you try to play from inside - which is fine, since every single objective has standing level window access + access to the adjacent room easily. Which is it's only problem.

I don't mind maps where the challenges are going to be different. Consulate has a lot of the "surprise motherfucker" gameplay I describe, but it's one map out of 10. Meanwhile a lot of the DLC stuff seems to encourage roaming.

And then Favela? LOL holyyyyyy shit

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What recruit do you guys have pre-selected in case you cant choose an op in time?

For attack I have GSG9 recruit with Aug, breach and frags. Imo the aug has THE best ironsights on attack, just a single line for you to aim with.

For defense I think GSG9 is the best too, mp7 ironsights are great.

>>170510897
attack you should have gsg9 shotgun

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>>170510552
You could make it future / high tech office structure. Think sort of like the Palisade property bank in Mankind Divided. When you are upstairs in the offices section, very officey without being confined to a million cubicles.

>>170510691
There aren't any console players on the teamspeak so that would be pointless.

>>170510776
I don't think anyone likes Favela.

I'll be the first to say that Defenders are a little bit at a disadvantage compared to what the attackers are able to get but Favela encourages the absolute worst of the worst of Defender behavior. Since almost every objective room is impossible to reinforce all the wall you're better off just spreading out and going for le epic spawn peeks and roaming.

>>170510691
I have it works fine, cost $1.99.

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>>170510691
>Then how do I play with /R6G/ on PS4??

>>170509995
Would you say you think the balance changes not all being well thought out is the fault of the "A team's gone, B team's moved in" sort of thing? Or do you think the game has had poor designers on board since the start and their poor decisions have only become more clear as time rolls on?

Because you could look at how the core game works pretty damn well as evidence of the early devs being competent, but at the same time you see issues with useless operators and a muddy meta in even early cases. Look at the relationships between Thermite, Reinforcements, Anti-Thermite ops and Thatcher. That whole element of the game was part of the core of the original meta, but you could easily argue that it's convoluted and should've been designed better, and in turn is partial evidence that Siege's core design could've been a fluke, or just a lucky Frankenstein's monster of elements of other games that just wound up working well together.

>>170511061
I like how Favela went from bad to toxic cancer just from the addition of Hibana. Defending any part of Favella with a Hibana is infinitely worse than just Thermite, and odd's are the team is going to have both Hibana and Thermite present.

I fucking hate Favella

Can we agree the best map is house

>>170511297
no

>>170511297
yea

>>170511338
What is the best map then

>>170511156
Favela is just a cancer where whoever wins the instant spawn peek game wins. Defenders that don't excessively roam get punished but the minute someone on your team dies and you have to play defensively the attackers get the advantage. Not to mention attackers can also rush to just destroy you.

Fuck everything about Brazil. The only map I dislike more than Favela is Border, and the bomb gamemode in general.

Yacht isn't amazing but at least it feels like a map from release. I know people dislike Airplane but I honestly kind of like it. Border is more "every wall is made of paper" and roamer galore, Skyscraper is okay but its rooms are too small, and Coastline I actually kind of like even though it's pretty clear it's got issues.

>>170511061
>you're better off just spreading out and going for le epic spawn peeks and roaming
>implying it's possible to spawn peek on Favelas
>implying these aren't legitimate strategies
>implying maps shouldn't encourage different playstyles and strategies as a means of forcing variety and adpaptation upon the playerbase
Favelas is a challenging map on both Attack and Defense, since, even though the increased destruction encourages roaming, there are many choke points that attackers can use against roamers once you gain control of pivotal parts of the building, and gaining control of areas as an attacker is a lot easier with as many potential entry points as there are.
People hate it because it's so drastically different from the other maps in the game, but if players actually tried to do their best and make the most of every situation instead of giving up and saying "I hate this map!" then maybe people would learn to appreciate it more.
But maybe I'm crazy, I mean I like Plane and Yacht too.
The only maps I actually dislike are House and Bartlett.

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>mfw I have 199h of MP
>almost a third of my total playtime is aim practice on TH
Do I try too hard?

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>tfw you MVP as Castle

BLACKED

>>170511589
UMP is good, doesnt mean that your walls helped anyone

>>170510691
>>170511115
>>170510403
Anon you have no idea how to use meme arrows.
Also stop spamming your art without context, yes we know you made art. Posting it every time you say anything is essentially namefagging at this point.

>>170510984
palisade is very samey tho

>>170511378
idk about best but i like consulate, bank and plane

>>170511547
I like Plane and Yacht and absolutely hate Favella. I like most of the maps and hate Favella. It's just not a good map.

Favella is the same reason why some objectives on some maps are just purely toxic. Like the living room on House, with literally 4 windows into the room - or some of the objectives that have easy access from a roof breach or something

There are some really bad objectives in the game presented as a "dude lol just adapt and overcome" sort of deal, and really they are just bad. Favella is almost exclusively 100% these. It only becomes interesting if your team doesn't have a Thatcher or Twitch and they have both Mute and Bandit. Then Favella becomes 10/10 in those rare situations.

>>170511297
absolutely not.

>>170511704
>my shocked walls make a cameo
reported :///

>>170511969
A lot of people watch the door from that weird outdoor window.

>>170511378
probably either consulate or kafe

>>170511378
Clubhouse and Border are probably my two solid favorites so far, but the more I play Skyscraper and Coastline the more I enjoy those too.

>>170510032
>tbḫ.
>ḫ
What are you?

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>tfw someone unironically picks Mira
>tfw Mira's mirrors are blown open during the prep phase because of Twitch

Why did they add this fucking character to the game?

>>170512362
Mira's great, she's just not meant for shitters.
Play with friends to mitigate that problem.

Is barbed wire OP?

>>170513140
>Barbed wire
>OP
no way

>>170511115
Post your psn and hope someone adds you

>>170513140
Its very usefull but properly balanced

So based on advice here I bought a Cuckadian operator. That's just like muh cawadooty with FAL + holographic.

>>170513608
cool

>>170513140
They're strong, especially if you put them in good places, but there are way more important things to balance in the game than barbed wire. Shit like deployable shields should be more appealing to use.

>>170504227
somone draw this as echo crushing a twitches drone

>>170511481
for what purpose

>>170513798
>Shit like deployable shields should be more appealing to use
How would you go about that?
Giving operators 2 shields instead of just one?
I've thought about how this needed to be done but could honestly not think of a plausible way to go about making them more useful.

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>>170511771
I just wanted to post art related to the general, this better?

>>170513954
Let me clip a little bit with a wall if I want to, or make them generally wider in addition to minor clipping.

Let me fully conceal a doorway.

Let me put it so people can't fucking repel into a window without dunking a bomb on it.

>>170514293
One of the drawings you keep posting is just a doodle of you
C'mon

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>>170513418
PSN GT: SIFER-92

let's play some casuals or maybe ranked if anyone is up for it?

>>170514293
Then post someone else's art, not just your own constantly. It's bad form, and comes off as attention seeking.

>>170513954
I would say two shields instead of 1 would be a big step in the right direction

And up barbed wire to 3 as the default (with some having 4) would be a really good way to balance them out vs just taking nitrocell 90% of the time.

Cause right now the flowchart is really just:

>do you have a nitrocell?
>yes?
take it
>no
take barbed wire

Unless you are doing one of those very specific strategies with bandit and doing doorway shields, but you never see those in casual levels of play

But if we do this, making those vaultable shields more destructible needs to happen

>>170514428
>instagram filter


get the fuck out of here

>>170514343
You're basically asking for deployable shields to act as a better form of castle panels, and for the possibility of entry into certain objectives becoming literally impossible without frags or Ash.
Being able to extend their edges further would be fine, but I don't see the point of having them be able to clip into walls or doorways.

>>170514485
>do you have a nitrocell?
>yes?
>take it
>no
>take barbed wire
But that's wrong.
If you take nitro over barbed wire 100% of the time you're actually just a shitter, I'm sorry.

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>>170514485
>and up barbed wire to 3 as the default (with some having 4)

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>>170514468
I do post others, you just can't tell, which I guess makes sense

>>170514938
>nitrocell still isn't somehow a 10/10 item just because Monty can survive a forward blast

LOL

>>170515041
how is nitro not the same as impacts ?

>>170515083
>small blast radius
>requires a direct hit to get maximum damage, which still isn't instant kill
>far less damage

vs

>get fucked range the size of a small nuclear warhead
>high probability of kill or multiple kills if used correctly

They are still highly effective. It's just shield users can technically not get immediately fucked by them anymore.

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>>170514498
It's an app called retrica you plebian.

>>170507414

/pol/ posting is shitposting

>>170515041
Nitros were never better than barbed. That change only further solidified them as situational pick tools.

5 minute queue


??????????????????????????

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>He didn't buy the blackface Pulse headpiece

IDIOTS

They won't even see you coming on a night map (and no this isn't a GPU issue).

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>>170515530
>nitrocells are situational picks only

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>>170515578
>that vest res

>>170515592
i love how youre pretending it isnt true, youre one of those fags that itch the finger on nitros and rely on them as a crutch because you cant control your recoil

>>170515654
>2 replies deep
>already devolved to "LOL GIT GUD"

pottery

Why am I getting pings of 90?

Are there options I should be checking to make sure I get servers closer to me?

>>170515912
youre one of those delusional plats right?

>>170515979
you can edit your ini file for the servers
its how the brs get into the american servers with their 300+ ping and rape everything

>>170515592
Yeah, that's what I said. You want to make a counter argument or just sit there pretending you know shit?
>Barbed wire is guaranteed to either slow attackers or waste resources >nitros aren't guaranteed a kill
>Nitros can get kills situationally, but non-3 armors can normally predict and outrun them If they use their ears
>Slow peeking gets you killed in Siege
>Barbed wire forces attackers to slow peek and create loud and distinct noise
If you're at the skill level where you still can't capitalize on this and kill attackers moving through barbed wire, it's understandable to favor the obvious relationship of "nitro = kill" over the less obvious advantages of barbed wire listed up above.

Also >>170515654 wasn't me dumbass.
Stop assuming you hold the majority opinion you autist.

>>170516098
Does my NAT type matter at all?

>>170515592
so which one do you take

a slow peeker

or a impact 2.0 ?

>>170516256
i dont really know how much
im on nat 1 and with my cat5 cable im at like 50-70 ping

>>170516376
I don't know much about networking.

The fact that I can host a UT2004 server is a miracle.

>>170516448
yeah me neither
i was using wifi for years until i got a cable a few months ago
my ping has never been lower

>>170516185
>every anti-nitro argument is either that the user is too shit to use it effectively, or the target is too skilled to be killed by it

this is good and all, but you forget the best part

>tfw thermite/hibana opens a hole and bypasses all your barbed wire

gg no re

Please like and subscribe to my channel, guys
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnczxlfjnbykgycrclBKjEw

>>170517124
hello crap_shoot

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>>170517124
ITS GAY AND I HATE IT

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>>170516516
Are you retarded? Barbed wire can go underneath windows, in doorway chokes, in high traffic areas, whatever. You're not dumping it in front of a breakable wall to be destroyed when the wall explodes.

I haven't died to a nitro cell in forever, even Valk cam+floor nitro got nerfed in the recent patch because you can hear the buzzing through everything now.

>>170517479
>You're not dumping it in front of a breakable wall to be destroyed when the wall explodes.

So you agree with me. Thanks dude! Good chat.

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More like these

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Is it viable to take the rifle shield off and just become an effective 2 speed attacker in certain situations? I feel like on more roamer heaven maps it's viable since if they come from behind you the shield is a moot point.

>>170516516
>ignores the fact that barbed wire is almost always a free kill on anyone moving through it
>implies you can't put barbed wire in pathways yet to be created
>implies "skill" lets you get nitro kills 100% of the time you use them
I'm done arguing with your shitter ass. Do whatever works for you, but just know that you're shit for thinking nitros are a must pick.
End of argument.

>>170517634
It's an under-utilized way to play him.
People seem to forget your recoil also gets worse with the rifle shield on (for some reason) and there are plenty of situations where fast peeks will be preferable to slow shielded ones.

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>>170517634
Sure, maybe. Better players expect Blackbeard to slow lean peek thanks to his shield, so when you wide strafe out instead you can catch them completely by surprise.
Whatever works for you, honestly. I personally play Blackbeard without the shield because the 20rd SCAR is aesthetic as fuck, and the shield slows you down so much and you win every gunfight that not even R6S anymore.

>>170517685
Maybe when you realize you are trying to argue barbed wire has no skill based attributes that determine it's effectiveness, yet your only points are on how nitro's are useless if you have less skill than opponents... you can come up with more efficient shit posts and quality baits.

I don't mind feeding you (You)'s man, it's like giving bread to pigeons in the park. You want to go after the juicier, rarer (You)'s.

Good bait is controversial, you are just trying to pick a ramdp, thing and acting like a retard over it. Step up your game.

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>>170517906
>and the shield slows you down so much and you win every gunfight that not even R6S anymore.
Pardon?

>>170517968
>Anything i disagree with is bait
Autism my man.
And I said, end of argument. Now fuck off.

>>170517831
>>170517906
Alright thanks, I'll give it a shot and see if I can make it work.

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>>170517996
The shield slows you down so much that you become a half speed
You win every single engagement you peek if you're not a shitter
The combination of those two factors makes the playstyle of Blackbeard feel incredibly cheesy and boring to play, so it's not even R6S anymore. I like operators that can dropshot effectively and are 3 speed ACOGs instead

>>170518061
Dude I just want better for you man. If you want good shitposts you gotta come up with something clever, trying to argue that

>lol you are too shit to consistently throw nitrocells and players are too good to get killed by nitrocells
>players are consistently shit to constantly go into barbed wire and get fucked by it for easy kills

it's not a good bait. It's so obvious you are being contrarian for the sake of acting the fool and accumulating them replies. If you want quality bait, maybe make up some post about how Thermite and Hibana are actually a waste of a pick

>enemy team expects reinforced wall breachers
>they will allocate resources and strategy around defending those walls, such as picking bandit, mute, etc
>instead allocate your resources to violently penetrating a conventional entry point
>frags, sledge, ash, fuze to eat up ADS? etc.

Now that could be a spicy meme. But you gotta come up with something that's believable and has a consistent world view, albeit slightly flawed in a fatal way.

Good luck dude!

>>170518112
My advice is to mix it up and alternate between both.
Use the shield for more tight or well covered angles like windows, and take it off when you're trying to peek wide in a doorway or around a broader space, because that's when speed and recoil matter the most.

>>170518319
>typed all that up because he thinks people are baiting him
>actually thinks he seems smart for "calling it out"
Here's a pity (you) buddy, being that autistic must suck.

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>>170518573
>le autism may may

If you take nitro over barbwire you are just gimping your whole team. No way around that.

>Dumbass castle locks us into the objective
>Tell him to stop doing it
>He does it again the next round

Can we just get rid of that operator entirely? He provides nothing of value.

>>170518670
>actually use the word autism correctly
>he calls it a meme
Shit I think I hit a nerve
You off your pills buddy?
I'll stop giving you (you)s if you're so easily bothered right now.
Good luck getting over your mental sickness dude.

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>tfw you see a camera IRL

>>170518709
>He provides nothing of value.
I have won a couple matches because someone didn't have time to melee the door before a round ran out. It's hilarious listening to them furiously hitting it in the last couple seconds.

>>170518126
>so it's not even R6S anymore. I like operators that can dropshot effectively and are 3 speed ACOGs instead
>Moving slowly 'not even R6S anymore'
>3speed ACOG dropshotting is
kys

redpill me on valk
which gun do I use?
how do I git gud?

>>170519089
She's actually a man
MPX for more versatility
Play more, watch vids on how to improve

>>170518709
He would actually provide something of value if he had 4 or 5 doors. Too many people can meme on Castle for 3 doors to make any difference.

>>170519089
throw cameras outside

>>170519089
Both of her guns are good, mpx is just more flexible, naturally.
On objectives with potential outdoor-to-indoor sightlines try to get at least one cam outside to monitor for pushes or peeks.
Position your cams in spots witg lots of detail, both outside and inside, but especially inside you want to keep where attackers will likely be facing in mind. Make sure you don't put your cams on clean surfaces facing towards where attackers will enter from, otherwise they'll get shot out in no time.

>>170519089
never x with a camera but call out enemy position on mic

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>>170518709
>give Castle 5 (FIVE) barricades
>but they can only be used on windows

>>170519262
>>170519089
Spotting with Valk cams is generally a no go, but if you're reaching the final seconds of a round and an objective is at stake, the extra/more accurate intel of a spot can act as a major guide for living teammates in predicting and/or killing enemies, and the "you are spotted" notice can make attackers panic and look for the cam, wasting time and splitting attention in the process. It's situational, but don't be afraid to spot in situations such as those.

>>170516516
>>170516185
This is like arguing which GIGN defender is better. The one that's situational but can yield better results or the one that's consistently useful.

Let the anon pick his nitro, as long as you take THREE barbed wire on bandit you can kinda compensate for your team having 3 intros and one impact with 0 kills.

>>170519089
Spas-12 is fucking great if you're a man who can consistently get into close quarters.

>>170519543
You could actually make the argument that Rook is mathematically the better choice based on how much damage reduction Rook does vs how much HP Doc heals, since Rook's benefit is passive and always on, whereas Doc needs to use all 3 syringes to come out ahead in raw numbers. We all know how often it is you'd actually get to use all 3 syringes.

Then you get into probability of getting ranged revives vs the probability of winning gunfights you otherwise wouldn't have without the armor, which is a bit more nuanced in the discussion.

But I think the pro league numbers kind of settle the argument as well, since Doc rarely gets picked and Rook often gets picked, so they came to the same conclusion.

>>170519634
I personally LOVE the SPAS but hate the Deag so much it's just not an option to go for the shotgun

>30 rounds sas
>20 rounds jtf2

nah, fuck that

>>170519634
I've found it to be harder to handle and less lethal than the supernova. Am I supposed to ads with the thing, use a laser sight or whatever?

>>170519089
Putting cams on areas that they blend in is a good trick, im not talking about throwing a cam into a cramped area (although that can be useful as wel) but on things that resemble a circular cam so that enemies are less able to recognise it in the heat of the moment, some of the best objects are valves, centre of the clock on Border and on control consoles like on Yacht that have lots of buttons etc that allow tge valk cam to disappear into.

any tips on how to kill people with the deagle? I cant seem to hit the broad side of a barn with it

>>170519313
>make him totally unusable on yacht and plane
I don't think ubi would go that far

>>170520310
>pick castle on yacht
>get cockpit
>4 doors leading directly to outside
>window in the captains office also outside, plus breachable if not sealed up
>door to hallway
>six routes of access
>only 3 panels
plus
>there is also a fucking ladder to worry about

Sometimes Castle just makes he experience clinical depression

>>170520201
>>170519089
Also keep in mind that the FOV on Black Eyes is ENORMOUS. You can sometimes hide them in locations where no one is gonna look them for because no one is going to think it's a viable spot for cameras.

When I'm playing with friends I'm constantly asking whether some camera pos is useful in their opinion and so trying to improve the locations I use.

>>170520384
Castle gets cucked so hard in casual.
The random objectives and the longer timer make his barricades just so much worse compared to ranked

>>170520310
>some operators are better on certain maps than others
Makes you think.............................................

>>170500667
>>170501314
I got a buddy that can give you the full low down on this dude.

>>170520872

Cool, get him on the case.

Thoughts on the SAS mp5?

>>170520794
Yes, and there are no operators that absolutely cannot use their ability on any map.

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>>170495232
Why not buy the starter edition?

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So what's coming up in terms of lewd things by the drawfriends?

Are SAS OP?

>>170521174
the game cucks you into an mmo-style grindfest to unlock the vanilla ops, this kills the fun

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>30 round wins as SAS
>20 round wins as JTF2

Alright, who's the fuck that thought this was a good idea?

I hate purposely drawn out challenge shit like this, ESPECIALLY when it comes to DLC CTUs like the JTF2, to where only one chucklefuck per team can get that operator per round.

>>170522276
nigga he's talking about the starter edition

>>170495232

Did someone in /r6g/ make this?

>>170522305
I've been enjoying playing SAS

>>170521123
>IQ and Blitz aren't glorified recruits

>>170522276
kys my man

>>170521607
ye

>>170522502
>>170521123
>enemy doesn't have electronics
>Thatcher is now useless
woooooooooooooow

>>170522359

yes.

>>170522630
>enemy has guns
>Blitz is now useless
woooooooooooooow

Got another 25k renown

The only operators left are Echo and Mira


Which to buy firstly?

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Okay, so what we know is coming up is:

>loot box system
>updates to the UI

What other things do you think they're going to add through the next seasons?

Animated weapon skins? Play of the game end screens? Emotes? Voice lines? Sprays?

Is there some exploit to get renown quick? I heard that cheat engine might work but that macroing the process to make tons of cash no longer works.

>>170522972

Echo, if you like fucking with people.
Mira, if you like fucking with people.

>>170522305
no reason to even bother with the jtf2 one, 750 renown is literally nothing

>>170523039
>Echo, if you like fucking with people in other team.
>Mira, if you like fucking with people in your team.
Fixed

>>170522972
Mira has the fastest pewpew!

>>170522972
I would say Mira.

>>170522972
>Echo
D tier gadget, shitty gun
>Mira
A or D tier gadget depening on whether the enemy has a Twitch, stronkest gun in the game

>>170522979
Kill counts on weapons

>>170522979
>>loot box system
What

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>>170523357
>stronkest gun in the game

>>170523449
t. silver

>>170523497
Yeah I cant see anyone but a silver thinking the vector is the strongest gun in the game

>>170523578
t. demoted to bronze

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>Your position has been compromised
What do you do /r6g/!?

>>170523812
rage at the dumbass who fucked us

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>>170523851
That's pretty rude
But also fair

>>170523812
I run towards the closest window and book it.

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I want to get interrogated by Caveira irl. But instead of killing me we fuck.

Alright, lads. What is the STRONGEST gun in the game?

>>170524485
valkyrie's biceps

>>170524485
5.7mm of wound vectors.

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>>170524485
A six inch blade.

>>170524485
SMG-11

>check out /Fhg/
>No more waifu posting
>It's fucking dying this hard
If For Honor dies then I hope their budget goes to siege. There's no point in maintaining that game if they are gonna keep the p2p connection.

>>170522706
>enemy has players who aren't blind
>kapkan is now useless
wooooooooooooooow

>>170523812
listen for footsteps
prefire the retarded team as they charge the corner

>>170522979
hats with vibrant particle effects

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>>170523851
>the only breacher on the team goes solo and gets assraped by caviar

>>170524665
>>170524921
>>170524963
reddit

>>170525727
t. 2016

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>finally broke the 1:1KD last night
god it feels SO good
I remember going 1-5 almost every game when I first got this
Now I'm burning through 9+ kills per game every game

>>170526946
Good job anon, keep it up

What is a good barrel attachment for Buck's C8? I like to burst fire with it cause I can't consistently control the full auto. Do I go flash hider or muzzle break?

>>170527763
Why would you want muzzle break?

>>170527763
I use the muzzle with an Acog

>>170527862
people have said that muzzle brake helps with most guns due to the initial recoil shot being the highest or something. also this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jye_7u8ydYQ shows that muzzle is good for burst? Just wanted to get everyone else's opinion.

>>170527763
Ditch the C8, get the CAMRS + muzzle break and ACOG.

So challenges update but I can't seem to add them? I have an empty slot that I can't fill.

fockin laser sights

>>170511481
you can toss back nades in this game? I played this game for around 200hrs and didn't know.

>>170528749
You should never try to, everyone with half a brain would cook his nade before throwing it.

>>170528617
kuzey pls go

>>170528859
dont make me shove my 6 inch blade in your candyass

do you think jager was made autistic to appeal to us?

>>170529409
It creates some nice memes and lets us bully players who main him.

>>170529597
i main jager and im...
nevermind

>>170529738
Fat

>>170529902
:3

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>>170529902
FUCKING DELETE

Keep trying

>>170529909
im whatever you want me to be bby ;^)

>>170530273
Can you be a thicc sonic diaper doujinshi for me anon?

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>>170530416

>>170530416
Are you maining Jager too?

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>playing terrorist hunt for challenges
>protect hostage on realism
>one guy picks doctor
>ask him to heal me
>repeatedly injects himself until i explain to him how to heal others
its socute when people new at the classes do stuff like that :3

>>170528160
Challenges are still fucking broke...I can't add them. Luckily I have the two common wealth ones before shit hit the fan.

>field medic, a role where your job to get the wounded out as fast as you can
>doc, one speed

>>170531053
a feild medic isnt responsible for extracting the person though

>>170531053
>tfw you can't carry dbno teammates on your shoulders as doc.
to then toss them off a ledge

>>170531371
>not shooting downed teammates to put them out of their misery

>>170500856
they accidentally released a bunch of charms including the flag ones in the shop once, you might of seen it there.

>>170531053
>two/three speed Doc
fuck, roaming Doc is a pain in the arsehole as it is, having him pelting down the corridors for spawnkills would be too much

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Is Ash's G36 a meme? Her other ar seems to do everything that it can do just better. Is it better at long-range or something?

>>170531423
>roaming doc
Unless he has a roaming Rook to back him up a roaming Doc is useless you silver.

>>170531565
Depends on what you enjoy
G3 has Acog and is more accurate with less recoul
R4 has high fire-rate

>>170531565
The G36 lets you have an angled grip.
It's still a good gun, I use it with an Acog an angled while I run the R4 with a holo so I have options depending on the map.

>>170531565
G36 is for going fast. Angled grip snap shots, only for when you're good at twitch gameplay. R4 is for all other situations.

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>all those autistic fits of rage
>for this
well, was it worth it?

Planned maintenance, hope they fix shit

>>170532124
Yes, ofcourse.

>>170532124
>nigeria
>pakistan
>fiji

Of course it was worth it for these bastions of Anglo pride.

>>170531565
I use it for maps with longer ranges. I use acog on G36 because it has barely any recoil and with the angled grip you can have the sight up really fast.
With the other AR I use a holographic and use it if I want be an extremely fast jew going at very high speeds. Heavy barrel/acog is never a good combo anyways.

>>170532175
They're actually partially fixing ranked before the reinforcements?

>>170527763
muzzle is the way to go
the only thing that keeps that beast in control

Does anyone have that video of IQ dancing like Tracer from OW to this song?
https://youtu.be/CPm7oCnpld8

>>170526946
Congrats! Also just got to 1 KD and its such a good feeling.

>>170532657
nvm found it
https://gifsound.com/?gfycat=AnotherWellmadeDolphin&v=CPm7oCnpld8&s=27

>>170519869
I've been told that laser sights make the spread tighter and that ads makes the spread even tighter which while doesnt make sense is a balance thing i guess.

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>2-2 score
>teammates leave
>1v5
You can stand me up at the gates of hell But I won't back down

>>170533578
There's no need to be Petty about it.

>>170533578
I love when teammates leave in casual, just the challenge, more weight in everyone's back, the sense of pride if you win, but the grain of salt that it was casual

>>170532124
>eternal anglo flag
no, it was not

>>170533578
That's just Tomfoolery

>>170500850
yeah the term commonwealth of nations literally is never spoken in american schools so youre stupid

>learning about anything other than America involved world history in America

lol, other countries actually think they're important when we're not involved in their politics.

Only way to get around that, is to have interesting discovered history prior to America's foundation.