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Shadowverse is a female friendly free-to-play class-based CCG.

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

New expansion "Tempest of the Gods":
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/tempestofthegods/

Current revealed cards:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#gid=384699390

The GBF collab event is LIVE. Check the following pastebin for details:
http://pastebin.com/3U2KM9p5

Useful Links: http://pastebin.com/SZNKYEMi

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first for dong
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Birdman is best leader desu.
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I want to make Luna my cute wife and take her first time on our wedding night!
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12378077
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Luna-chan is cute! CUTE!
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>>170495205
You're going to jail nigga.
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I can finally never play this craft I don't have the cards for again.
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https://clyp.it/dvjc5lem
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>>170495183
HOW IS THIS FAIR
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Finally got my first 5-0, even got to pull the dream of using sahaquiel to pull bahamut in one of the games

And christ, the last game a dude dropped an albert on turn 8 and I thought he made a mistake, but then he dropped another on t9 putting me to 1 but I managed to win through value while he was empty handed
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>>170495196
>>170495301
Kill yourself, newfag.
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>>170495447
Because it's a 4pp 3/4 and almost every deck in this game has T5 hard removal?
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>>170495183
>gets full evolve value
Ayy lmao
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installed uncensore pack and this happened only to isabelle , how do i fix this?
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>>170495034
SVG Open Tourney on Saturday
(Challonge TBA)

Time: Saturday, Mar 11 at 5pm PT
Previous tourney: http://challonge.com/de/SVGOT (finished)
Poll: http://www.strawpoll.me/12485732/r
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>>170495183
Why is it that all of Sword legos so fucking OP? Holy fuck.
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>Have to win at least 30 games to get to Masters, increasing by one for every loss

I'm tired.
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Will Dragon players ever stop crying?
I swear they cry more than fucking Shadow players during DE.
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>>170495698
Its because you copied outdated files
Use the japanese a folder instead of the OP

It happens because you're missing some files
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>turn 1 egg
>turn 2 concede
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>>170495914
At least your in AA3, im currently stuck in AA2 purgatory
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>>170495721
Ideas for formats if you want to do restrictions.

Commons only
DE or RoB only (Not sure if this can work)
Singleton
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>>170495183
This is a fake card right?
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>>170495750
>>170495447
how the fuck is this OP?
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>>170495183
3pp albert wew
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>>170496130
It's not clash
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>>170495990
Where can i find that, sorry for asking to be spoonfed.
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>>170495183
100% rush storm deck when?

>>170495531
(you)
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>>170495942
t. sword player
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>>170496107

It's actually way more reasonable than what we thought it was going to be from initial translations.
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>>170495942

That's because Dragon has never, ever, been good and will never, ever, be good, whereas Shadow can be good at times.
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>>170496234
If you're on steam you can just set your language to jp and then copy the folders
This works the same for voice files too
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>>170496243
Kill yourself newfag.
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How is Zeus not worse than Bahamut in every way? Unless you're in storm lethal damage it's just trash.
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>>170495371
fluffy tail!
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>>170496243
Is it really too fucking hard to drop the name on an anonymous fucking imageboard? Do you have brain damage or are you just an underaged child?
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>>170496324
The Korean -> English translations have been pretty bad so far
Dark Jeanne seemed pretty OP too before we got the proper translation for her.
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>>170495942
What was wrong with Shadow in DE?

>>170496383
(you)
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>>170495034
How come card games are the only ones that make me angry? Even team based games with drooling retards aren't this bad for me.
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>>170496395
Might be worth a 1 of in Sahaluci. 5 face damage or removal of any ward is nothing to sneeze at.
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>>170496548
Because it's more coinflip based than skill based?
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>>170496531
Stop shitposting
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>>170496548
Because luck is always a big factor in determining how a game plays out.
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>>170495651
It has no evolve effect so it actually follows that convention correctly

What's actually bullshit about it is the fact that it gets the full 4 PP drop statline even though it has that effect + an enhance that basically hands you the reduction for free.

>>170496108
The enhance effect is the most bullshit part of it. Free rush free proc from the effect. Everyone else would be forced to waste their evo on it to get the reduction.

Sword gets to play even more minions without wasting evo points to ensure they have evos for their big dudes/Albert late game. The proc let's you Otohime on 5 and walfred on 6. Or you could proc multiple Gawain and pull some bullshit like Leonidas on turn 7
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>>170496324
>Clash
>Evolve also triggers basic effect
The best part is that it was actually believable that they'd give a card like that to sword
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>>170496243
kill yourself mentally ill faggot
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>>170496395
Bahamut can't block followers spawned from last words effects.
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Urias player
>Bloodcraft Control
Vania player
>Bloodcraft unga bunga
Erasmus
>Dirtcraft
Isatits
>Daria cancer
Arisa
>Forestcraft Tempo
Selwyn
>White Wolf Bolt

Why do leaders literally always reflect what deck their playing.
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Why this general treats dragon and blood like a joke? do you find funny that certain crafts keep getting the shit cards while others vomit busted followers left and right?
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>>170496363
Thank you!
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>>170495183
>meanwhile shadow got a desert rider and blood got a suicide harder card
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>>170496548
All competitive games when practiced for long enough periods of time can affect your nervous system so they trigger different responses depending on everyone's nervous breaking points.

Maybe you play this a lot more than mobas, fighting or strategy games. Either that or you don't like the random factor if it's not an exposure effect kinda deal.

>>170496678
>>170496730
(you)
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>>170496345
Stop buying into the meme that heavily you fucking retard. Storm Dragon was tier 1 in standard, and Dragon in general has always been better than Blood, the real worst class in the game. At least Dragon's problem is just a bad car pool, rather than broken by design. Blood has both a bad card pool, and a self defeating mechanic. Obviously this is just a crabs in the bucket situation and not worth bringing up, but newfags here buy into the dragon memes far too much.
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>>170496395
Pretty accurate. More control will go for bahamut, stormers will take the genesis dragon for literally everybody to help close out. If the wards

>>170496548
Because of the raw imbalance in card power, that there are many matchups where you're basically just fucked and trying to tech against that just makes other matchups where you're basically just fucked. Removal and wards that basically rope-a-dope anything you do all game until they win con out. Basically making the match you watching them solitaire. Their topdecks that completely assfuck you.

Unranked is filled with people doing dailies so you have to either sandbag or hang out in low masters to do anything that's not a fully optimized burn storm cancer
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>>170496848
Yeah, it is pretty funny.
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>>170496919
kill yourself shitposter
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>>170496848
It's pretty funny, and although truthful it
gives people something to justifiably whine about
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>>170496730
>>170496678
Don't give it attention.
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I thought Albert was overpowered shadowbabs?
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>>170496848
....yes?
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>170496919
>I'm afraid of leddit downvotes so I namefag on 4chan instead
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>>170496935

Not buying into the memes shitter, it's the truth. You wanna talk about shitty mechanics? How about discard, in a craft that doesn't use shadows? How about half the card draw being linked the throwing other cards away? What rank are you faggot?
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>>170496816
>Bloodcraft unga bunga
Waifufags that just want to play with cute girls. They'd rather just play aggro than stick her in cblood

>Dirtcraft
Filthy hipsters that would rather play bad decks and make bad decisions. They could just play a good meta deck and a more popular cute girl leader but they refuse.

>Daria cancer
Waifufags that want to win and drop cute girls on the board
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>>170496816
You forgot
>Latham
Memes in the Sky
>Garuda
Birdcraft
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>>170496848
>Everyone ramps better than dragon
>Everyone gets better overstatted followers for cheaper than dragon
>Everyone has removal and hard removal out the ass to clear your plays for value
>Everyone is getting dragon cards but even better
>Shadow got literally evo zirnitra but better in every way that doesn't even cost an evo point
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33069 (Bakery)
13/20
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Why do people meme about Dragoncraft so much? Satan Bahamutcraft is pretty decent
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>>170496848
We've been over this, this is all intended by design. Dragon is the Timmy class, Blood is the discarded concepts class. If you want a Spike class, play Forest/Sword/Rune, they've always had top tier classes, and always will do. There's a reason they're the faces of the game.
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>>170496816
>plays Cblood
>uses vania

???
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>>170496883
You're welcome anon
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>>170497142
If only you could take ptp or something...
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>>170497209
>Best "dragon" card in the game is a neutral dragon
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>>170497209
Dragon's flaw is that it's too easy to clear their gigantic followers. I just drop Khawy or something.

Then they're forced to play memes like Discard Dragon which doesn't make use of the cool Overflow mechanic at all.
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>>170496848
I play dragon quite a bit and the memes are funny. I don't mind meme decks existing, the problem is they refuse to design worthwhile cards alongside them. People eventually get tired of meme-shit because they also actually enjoy winning games as well.

Dragon was pretty strong before DE and face wasn't bad during DE. Problem is they wasted tons of fucking cards on discard shit in RoB
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Anybody got a good csword deck list?
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>>170496637
>>170496679
>>170496989
You're right, I should play something that takes skill instead. But what has the thinking and customization of card games as well as being more skill based?
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>>170497267
this is a problem for me because i only play dragon and blood, every other craft card is vialed
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>>170497496
shoot yourself
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>>170497523
Stop posting any fucking time OC autist.
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>>170497209
>>170497413
this is depressing
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>>170497498
Dominions 4
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>>170497496
No.

I only have "40 good cards" sword because I can't into unga and don't have more vials to spend.
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>When is swordcraft literally aggro blood but it doesn't kill you and has a better late game...
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Guys I'm madly in love and this is ruining my winning percentage, what to do?
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>>170497523
>Give shadow dragon's gimmick
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>>170496082
noted for future polls!
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>>170497737
Literally every aggro deck is aggro Blood, except they don't run out of steam, and deal damage to themselves. The class is carried entirely on the back of 2 mana Demonic Strike, and would be completely unplayable without it.
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New power card starting turn 1!!!
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>>170495183
Why can this artist only draw one kind of person?

This guy, Albert, and Lucifer are all the same person except he dyes his hair differently depending on his mood

I seriously want to break this shitter's hands
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concede 32481
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>>170496082
>Commons only
Tier 0 Sword: the format.
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>>170497498
Play tic-tac-toe.
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>>170497852
>Literally every aggro deck is aggro Blood, except they don't run out of steam

tell me what card draw they even have
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>>170497413
>>170497675
Press F to pay respects to Inferno Dragon. ;_;7

>>170497803
Stop caring or go to masters and meme wherever you land.
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>>170497209
>shadow got evi zirnitra
Wha card? Unless you meant Sword
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Dragon had any legos revealed? Anything besides Drake? Maybe there's hope
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>>170497912
>Art is literally a dragon that's signalling, "Yes, you have to eat ALL the eggsss..."

This can't be a coincidence anymore. One of those fuckers at Cygames has to know about the meme.
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>>170498018
Nepthys
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>>170498019
Dragon Nest
Amulet
Put 3 eggs in your hand if overflow is active for you
Destroy this amulet
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>>170497914
It's his idea of the ideal bishonen or ikemen (pretty boy).

>>170497983
You don't need card draw when your follower quality is triple the competition's. Each Sword card is 3 times as better as Blood's.
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>>170497498
>But what has the thinking and customization of card games as well as being more skill based?
PoxNora and Duelyst are turn based, position based card games but if you don't care so much about cards you can also try real strategy games with different evolution trees and stuff.

Fair warning though, games that are "pure skill" don't exist. It's always working with what the game presents to the player and using everything to your advantage. You will never find a game that has no "cheap" or "unfair" situations, not ever. There is no perfectly balanced game that I've ever found and I suspect that even if it did exist, it wouldn't be a lot of fun.
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>>170498005
those are very spicey cards you got there
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Concede or let me beat on you. Need mission win
79019
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>>170498019
Read the OP where it fucking tells you man

>>170498173
I wanted to be the thicc-est dragon I could be. It's a sad day when whale, skull , inferno, leviathans and lightning behemoths don't get it done.
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>>170497413
Instead of PP, Overflow should have been triggered by how many Dragon-type/trait (not Dragoncraft) followers that you have played.
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>>170498120
It's better than Flute.
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>>170497836
One other craft getting a ramp card is bound to happen eventually. I'm willing to bet it's going to be one of the greatest Ramp effect in the game.
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>>170497912
What does this card do? Will it save Dragon?
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Unpopular opinion: I think the egg is a good card
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>>170498134
>It's his idea of the ideal bishonen or ikemen (pretty boy).

So? He doesn't need to make all his male characters look like that.
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>>170498350
Overflow status: at the start of the turn, heal leader for 2 draw a card, destroy this amulet
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>>170498019
>>170498120
Other leaked legendary was

Angry Brood Mother
Follower
8 PP
5/5
Deal 1 damage to all enemies for each egg you played this game
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>>170498286
yeah its too chunky to the point where you feed the shadow
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>>170498434
It's just a shitty Sacred Plea. I understand their intention and think conceptually it could feasibly be run in a combo-finisher ramp shell like Storm Ramp, but they undertuned it a lot.
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>>170498141
>games that are "pure skill" don't exist
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Immortal King looks like a good nep addition for anyone who isn't using 2378
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>>170498434
unpopular opinion: you are heterosexual
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>>170498350
>What does this card do?

It makes you eat ALL the eggs, anon

>Will it save Dragon?

Only if you eat all the eggs
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>>170497914
Let's put this to the test.

Albert and Lucifer, which is which?
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>>170498537
>replying to namefags
>expecting anything other than shit
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>>170498332
Clarke already usually ramps for 6-12pp
Baphomet tutors a win con while reducing it by 3 making it a better emissary cavalier.
Lionel reducing a 4 cost to 0
Wolf tutoring and reducing their highest cost to 0


>>170498489
>Eggs to cycle hand
>Feeds the flute memer
>Win cons and hellflame's gushing from your hand
Our time is now fake-card man

>>170498506
1 less card for heals when we take hits ramping is nice.
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Why doesn't dragon get some fucking huge follower that can't be removed from the board?

Like a super late game drop (I'm thinking a 9 pp drop) thats an 8/8 with "this creature cannot be affected by any other cards abilities" or something like that. Of course you'd have to give some weaknesses, like it's P/T can be changed so there's someway to deal with it.

That way dragon has a super strong finisher that fits their theme of having huge creatures and gives them something to run that's not naturalcraft.
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>>170498537
He's kinda right, even the most e-sports of competitive games have luck involved.

The only exception i can think of is Rocket League, but you can say that the initial car position after a goal is luck based even if it's a little.
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>>170498434
I wonder if people will run Ivory, it, both or none in ramp.

>>170498537
Name one.
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Chess and Go are games that require pure skill.
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>>170498594
Left luci right albert
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>>170498350
It's an insight that heals for 2 on overflow, start of turn.
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>>170498141
>games that are "pure skill" don't exist
What is chess
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>>170498537
They don't, though.

Even when you step into the realm of a game like Go, you still get weaker players beating stronger ones all the time. Anything can happen when someone gets a psychological edge in a match.
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>>170498724
Chess is RNG on who goes first, everyone knows that. Even Go can be played by AIs now so it's probably shit too
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>>170497342

>Dragon PTP

Yeah nah, kill yourself.
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>>170498724
>>170498770
>chess
They memorize the first fucking 20 moves for that shit, it's almost like netdecking at that point.
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>>170498434
This shit should have been:

Countdown (2)

Give an empty play point orb. If overflow is active on you heal for 2.
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>>170498680
fighting games
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Fighting games have extremely little RNG compared to other e-sports genres. Is this why they're so much less popular?
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who /overeasy/ here
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>>170498680
>>170498707
Ever heard of STG genre lads?
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>>170498647
S P I C Y
P
I
C
Y
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>>170498647
Because Haven is getting it.
That said, aegis is the only way because there's so much random destruction, bane, board destruction, and untargetted transform that itarget immune is only a meme against dummies like daria that don't really take much or good removal. Cannot be damaged by still eats it to the bane/destruction that's everywhere. Cannot be attacked eats it to hard removal.
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>>170497342
>ptp in a deck that hardly generates cards
What did you mean by this?
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>>170498350
You know how every craft has their 1PP draw card? Now Dragon does too. But they made it worse than all of the other ones on purpose. As a joke!
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>>170498724
>Chess
First player has the advantage of initiative. It's actually statistically proven and well-known by all professionals that white is the stronger side. This is also why most strategy games compensate second player; the resource advantage theory of first player coming ahead on symmetrical openings for most games. This exists even in modern digital games.

I am not experienced with Go so can't confirm or deny. I could research but I'm farming ladder atm with the extremely mentally taxing deck that is unga sword.
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>>170498647
Because ramp. Haven has to wait 9 turns to drop their useless brick. A useless brick isn't so useless when it can come down as easily as turn fucking 5. Dragon doesn't need unfair late game cards, the class just needs consistency and 2 in 1 cards. Ramp Storm is already a shell for the best type of deck in the game, a kill you from hand deck. It just needs more cards like Fervor, like ramp+removal, instead of having to choose between ramping or stabilizing.
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Isnt chess that game where going first is always better?
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i've never played rune please help

i have a second satan if i can put that in
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>>170498707
Ivory is great. Hand cycle and it fits snugly to fish for a win con
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>>170498647
>yfw when Dragon gets a Skullfane
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>>170498647
hi, havencraft sends its regards
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>>170499009
Yeah, that's why they play sets in big tournaments where both players get to go first the same number of times and why turn order is sometimes used as a handicap.
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>>170499009
Going first is always better, without exception, unless measures are taken to compensate (or overcompensate in the case of Shadowverse) the second turn player.
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>>170498594
I'm not sure.

Anyway, it's a 50-50 chance to get it right or wrong.
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>>170498647
Reading this has made me realize how much ramp had going for it in MTG. Damage wasn't permanent, and many of the best fatties green could ramp into couldn't be countered or targeted by spells. And because damage wasn't permanent they couldn't be broken down by a bunch of cheap followers unless you blocked with all of them at once, and then they would just giant growth it or something and now you're out of blockers. When you ramped into something it was a legitimate threat. These HS mechanics where damage is permanent really hurts big followers.
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>>170498647
>Why doesn't dragon get some fucking huge follower that can't be removed from the board?

because dragon can ramp up easier than most classes can. How the fuck would a 9pp 8/8 (like aegis) that cant be removed be balanced in a class that can get 9orbs 2 turns earlier? 3 if lucky
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>>170499036
>Only 2x Levi
Senpai...
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>>170499036
take out the shit cards and add more good cards
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>>170499168
I can get another, but I feel like I need another calamitous aswell
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>>170499143
Also trample is a thing.
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>>170498912
>>170499043
Do not respond to him.
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>>170498912
STG?
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>>170498912
>STG genre
No, what's that?
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is this literally gonna be the most cockblocking card?
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>>170499225
fangblade slayer has something better than trample, but it's only ever on him
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>>170494998
You're a fucking retard

How the fuck does this guy fit in Dragoncraft?

This guy should be a neutral card because he's obviously a mechanic with that get-up
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>>170499036
-Remi Rami
+Juno
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>>170499225
Yup. Add trample and make it unique to dragon and you've fixed the class.
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>>170499297
google it you retarded faggot.
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>>170499302
No? It's a waste of an evo point that's only useful in sun satan
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>>170499036
Just remove RemiRami and Teachings; they ain't helpin' ya accomplish anything.

2 Calamitous is also perfectly fine and brick prone enough as is.
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>>170499036
It looks okay, I don't really like Remi and Rami, I'd replace them with another Veteran or another Gobu, 3rd Levi is almost a must for any Rune deck, I personally don't like Fate's Hand since it often feels like it just amplifies your brick potential, consider trying a few copies of Price of Magic at some point and see how the deck goes with it.
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>>170499302
nope
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>>170499302
>Have to spend an evolution point
>Shit stats
>Nulls your creatures too
Its shit
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>>170499085
How the fuck do you counter this?

>can't kill it
>can't dance of death it
>can't Odin it
>change its hp to 1, still can't damage it

What the fuck Cygames.
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>>170499262
>>170499297
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>>170499420
you play roach and win
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>>170499302
Any situation in which you can protect it is a win more situation.
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>second khawy for my CoC Servant in arena
FUCKING CHRIST. FIRST A CONSTRUCTED TIER AGGRO BLOOD THAT WENT FIRST NOW THIS.
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>>170499302
It's meant to be an atomeme activator.
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Need a concede please.

25916
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>>170498948
kill yourself
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>>170499225
>>170499343
You can't really add trample to a huge dragon follower though because evolving it basically becomes giving it storm.
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>>170499420
How do you counter Satan?
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>>170499352
I found shoot 'em up but it's more commonly known as bullet hell, or shump. But yeah, I beat Ikaruga and many 2hus. This is when the "skill" thing gets to the second cognitive layer. You need different skills for different games and these games are almost entirely memorizing patterns. That is to say, you rarely get by on instinct or reflexes alone. Moreover, these are single player games and we're talking competitive to compare PvP to PvE efficiency.

But yeah that's a good example of a type of game that requires a lot of skill refining.
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>>170498886
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>>170499420
You don't. You either vomit 4+ wards a turn or kill them the next turn with storm/burn
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>>170499520
How about only allowing it to trigger when the dragon gets attacked?
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>>170499302
Was this honestly their best attempt at making a counter?
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>>170499420
don't let the haven get 9pp
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>>170499596
Good and now kill yourself you dumb shitposter.
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>>170499575
Pressure them enough
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>>170499673
No. I will not.
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>>170499672
>Don't let the control class with every answer in the world, exile, boardwipes, healing, and shit tons of wards get to turn 9
Nice meme
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>>170499596
>and these games are almost entirely memorizing patterns
You didn't beat a shit you lying peace of faggot.
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>>170499420
If Haven has a safe life total, while living to turn 9 AND skipping their turn 9, without you killing them, threatening lethal, or having acquired your own wincon, they deserve to win. That's how the fucking game wins, You people really do deserve fucking removalverse and eternal storm meta. All you want to do is counter counter counter.
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>>170499085
At least nothing can give it ward
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>>170499632
>not having Faust 2P and Slayer's Dead on Time instead of the painting

So close, yet so far.
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>>170499575
There's a reason Sun Satan is popular. Haven has all of the tools to make sure they make it to T10 and can drop him off safely. This one comes a turn earlier.
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>>170499485
lmao that conflagration

gg
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>>170499485
Thanks m8
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>>170499748
Why do you want to kill this general?
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which one?
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>>170499948
i saw you in chat
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>>170499759
>let haven get to turn 9
>they play a big fat do nothing
>win
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>>170499948
LOL. I'd feel bad but you're playing Sword so it doesn't really matter either way.
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>>170499831
The problem is that it's easier for haven to win against aggro because it's harder for them to brick. Their entire deck is basically nothing but removal to use to stall until they draw their wincon. Missing a single drop against them can mean a loss because you just won't have the damage to push through. Aggro needs to curve out, but haven doesn't.
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>>170499910

Yea. That clutch conflag save me the game
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>>170499938
For the same reason why you keep replying
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>>170499980
There's a chat client?
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>>170499948
You're playing sword in T2, you auto win either way.
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Friendly reminder to not reply to the mentally ill namefag.
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>>170495183
Holy fuck, I was hoarding my vials to see what the new expansion brought but I should have just jumped on the Sword train like everyone else
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>>170499868
But then the text loses significance without the religious theme.
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Is Haven the perfect balance of strong but not cancerous and anti-fun?
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>>170499948
You know what to do.
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50832(Bakery)
14/20
Just need a few more matches please friends.
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Do I need 3 Bahamut for Saharamp?
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>>170500071
no he was in mango's twitch chat
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How retarded would it be to try going from beginner ranks to master playing nothing but seraph?
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>>170500120
"chemo"
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>>170500130
Is this T2?
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>>170499948
Right because lucifer is a wincon.
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>>170497335
So is Kaguya a Bunny Girl? Doesn't look like a Kitsune.
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>>170500120
I think so, haven has the clearest strengths and weaknesses.
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>>170500223
yes
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>>170500032
just use dimension shift
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>>170499876
>There's a reason Sun Satan is popular.
Nigga, are you for real? Least played class AND negative winrate.
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>yfw you open your 2nd copy of one of the many legends you need full playsets of to play a really fun looking deck
at least unga bloodcraft is still fun
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>>170500120
Haven is like the definition of anti-fun. Only thing more anti-fun is Dshift.
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>>170500218
>Not cancerous and anti-fun
>Card that only select decks have any form of answer to that literally wins you the game
>In the most cancerous class
Welp, you baited me good senpai.
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>>170500196
You'd do fine?
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>>170497523
Nice work. I always enjoy seeing card oc.
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Got three Zirnitras, how to make her viable?
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>>170500342
>replying to yourself

SAD!
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>>170500120
I don't think anyone can actually answer "yes" to this question. Because Haven isn't strong right now

Also because it's the definitive anti-fun class, but that's beside the point.
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>>170500308
>All my plays get deleted and healed for 6 turns
>Seraph
Feels bad man
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>>170500401
use them to craft an albert
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>>170500218
i want to impregnate lapis!
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>>170500032
>Control deck beats an aggro deck
>This is a problem
Are you people mentally deficient? What is it exactly you want to accomplish here? You want aggro to have a positive match up against every other archetype? Haven already loses to combo automatically, and goes 50/50 at best with control. The class has a negative winrate overall, and you want it to be unfavorable against the only thing it's good at? If combo loses to aggro, and control loses to aggro, what exactly is supposed to counter aggro then?
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>>170500401
find out for yourself
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>>170500138
Thank you suicidal vampy and also other vampy fan thank you
50832(Bakery)
16/20
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>>170500342
Playing Seraph takes as much skill to play as most decks in this game. Very little.
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>>170500547
Do not reply to him, newfriend.
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>>170500401
Play her in seacraft or ramp wyrm spire with Olivia's. You stick eventually and kill them.
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>>170499748
Post Decku purisu
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Is anyone else just unmotivated to play this game anymore?
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>>170500797
Stop shitposting please.
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>>170500558
I'm ok with the most cancer class in the game being terrible yes
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>>170499876
Sun satan became popular because it was one of the few decks that has positive winrate against prenerf daria.
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>>170500817
Pretty much. Only thing motivating me is saving for the expansion but that's not doing much. Only do dailies every 3 days or so.
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>>170500817
I want to rank up but fucking sick with the sword fags
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>>170500817
I'm just doing the bare minimum to clear dailies in unranked until the expansion. I'm at the point where I actually want the 1 win dailies and reroll things like the 6 ranked wins.
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>>170500817
Yep, games pretty cancer right now, very little memes.

I'm getting pretty burned out.
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>>170500898
Is fighting and despair all you know?
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>>170500817
Nah, I'm 500 away from Masters man
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>>170500817
Happens to me a lot whenever a new expansion is on the horizon for any game. I'm mostly just logging in to do dailies and that's it.

And wew lad these reveals are just not doing anything for me.
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>>170500797
Ok. You can replace Tsubaki or fangs for DoD if you want.
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>>170501084
kys dubcuck
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>>170500817

Get to Masters. That's when the real fun begins because then you can try all sorts of crazy decks without fear of dropping.
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>>170501097
I've seen this version of Isatits a lot, where is it from?
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>>170500591
Thank you Urias, flame and glass is cool, never seen anyone play it before.

50832(Bakery)
17/20
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>>170501221
How'd you know it was from the dubbed version?
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>>170501097
I was to passionately kiss and caress every inch of Isabelle's body.
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>>170500998

Yeah I know, you spell boost using asshole.
>60% runecraft in all ranked game

Gosh I instantly surrender if it just smells like spellboost

>eheheh luk at me I'm playin 3x Daria and now it's my turn three times in a row!!!!1!11
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>>170501231
SV Chaneru.
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>>170500817
All the time. I can't bear the climb to masters so I can meme all day and sanbagging+ranked missions is killing me
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>>170501221
I WILL LIBERATE YOU.
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>>170501315
I am a dergon player
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>>170500817
Yeah but tournaments are still fun. Its a shame that this general is dying.
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>>170500817
Only since I started saving for the expansion. I miss the feeling of opening packs. Just stockpiling rupies feels pretty lame.
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>>170501226
You can just do that in unranked. The wall of grind through AA is too shitty, I sincerely regret not sandbagging at C rank forever.
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>>170501289
You're not as clever as you think you are anon. Streams exist, people played on mobile before the steam release where it's a pain in the ass to undub.
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>have forest down to 1 hp
>have a Yurius out
>he plays Fairy Beast
>it heals before Yurius deals damage
oh i am autistically screeching now
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>>170501473
>Playing Blood
>Losing because every craft under the fucking sun has heals now
Wow that sure is news anon, thanks for sharing!
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>>170501451

True but then you won't get as good a feel for how your deck stacks up. Plus once you're Masters, the opponents you face become better, thus making you a better player.
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>>170500817
If this months card backs weren't so uninteresting I'd be working on getting to masters (at AA2). But I can't bring myself to face all the aggro sword for card backs I don't want. So I'm probably just going to chill and accumulate my gold until the next expansion.
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>>170501464
That goes two ways. I don't even play dubbed anymore.
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>>170501252
It only works as a non-meme in dshift and lategame haven where the opponent has no hand left sadly
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>>170501192

>saved

Lovely senpai

I hope this carries me out off B

Many thanks
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>>170501252
Thanks Forte!

2 to go

50832(Bakery)
18/20
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>>170501667
Good luck, ol' chap. You can take that deck to AA easy.
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>>170501415
That's supposed to be how they sucker you into buying packs, but their business model for packs is terrible. They aren't worth 100 crystals each with no guarantee of at least a gold per pack, and with only one deal of the day there's no incentive to buy bulk crystals unless you're a retarded whale.

It's even more head-scratching when you see the general high value of the precons.
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>>170500558
Perhaps we could have the ability for archetypes to have more fair matchups against each other, instead of playing rock paper scissors.
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>>170501823
Stop responding to yourself.
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>>170501836
The dollar to crystal ratio is really bad outside of the deals. I couldn't see spending money on packs.
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>turn five daria

i hate this god damn game
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>>170501741
Thanks to the final Vampy and Forte

Thanks for the 2k gold friends
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>>170502053
Well, aggro is certainly not the fucking place to start with, now is it? Almost all 80/20 match ups in the game involves a control deck on the receiving end of the shit odds. D.Shift vs control, Nep vs Dragon, Roach vs CBlood, Dirt vs Shadow, Dirt vs Seraph, Dragon vs Sun etc..

The entire point of aggro is that you can never completely shut it down. They can always steal a game from a counter due to how consistent their combination of low curve + reach is.
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We're getting 8 free RoB packs to celebrate 8 million downloads.

day 1 = 4 packs
days 2-5 = 1 pack
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>>170502508
>RoB packs
FUCK.

Give us the new packs instead.
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>ward
>removal
>ward
>board clear
>ward removal
>Removal ward
>Board clear
>Seraph
>gg
Nice fucking game faggots
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>>170501836
>They aren't worth 100 crystals each with no guarantee of at least a gold per pack
They are whales. Don't you remember the guy who spend hundreds of dollars on stream for that one Tsubaki? Cygames clearly sets the lures for whales but their re-roll system is also pretty good for people who want deck-specific accounts and it's a very generous games for its F2P model in general compared to more or less every other TCG I've played.

>>170502070
How do you have the will to mindlessly reply the same stuff every time?
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>>170502610
just use dshift
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>>170502508
when though
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IMO after finished SV storymode all girls except Arisa is mentally retarded.

why.....

I want to like every character but their personality is making me puke.
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>>170502610
Outplayed.
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>>170502616
Drop the fucking name christ.
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>>170502706
Starting tomorrow (10th)
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>>170502508
8 millions already? I thought we just reached 7 million recently.
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>>170502749
ah thanks
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>>170502802
Thank the gorillions of gooks ENJOYING SHADOWVERSE, I guess.
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>>170502508

I love how generous this game is.
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>>170502053
If you want all the archetypes to have more "fair" matchups their core strengths and weaknesses have to be diluted. HS suffers from the extreme of this problem where classes feel homogenized even if their winrates against each other are close to 50%.

SV is on the other end of the spectrum as every classes baked-in mechanic is a lot more impactful than a 2mana hero power (generally speaking). As a result your good matchups feel like almost guaranteed wins while your bad matchups are autoconcede.
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>>170502508
Is that legit?
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>>170498724
Chess the first player has an advantage, but in Go the second player gets some free points to compensate. So it's completely balanced and the winner is determined through pure skill.
But Shadowverse has cute girls so it's better.
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>>170503089
What is up with HS and the neutral cards being meta defining anyway?
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>>170502897
Her boobs is unreal.

Not that I'm complaining
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>>170502897
So how are they gonna market Erika for the next tier 0 Sword format? Erika doesn't have huge tits to tell the low test Asians that she's an attractive female. They cannot appreciate hips, thighs, or ass for any of her other features to be found attractive.
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>playing sun satan for dailies
>matched against another haven
>it's probably seraph, about to concede because no odins
>opponent concedes instead
>>
>Animated lego
>Oh boy
>Lord Atomy

T-thanks for the 2k vials, I guess.
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>>170503228
the source is on the image, you can check for yourself.
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>>170503261
HS players like playing the exact same deck but with a few perks from their class.
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>>170503392
>they will never remove DoD so cards like Atomy will never be viable
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>>170502897
What's the appeal of boobs? They're just bags of fat.
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>>170503443
What's the appeal of butts? Everyone has them.
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>>170502609
>bring me pack that are not even out yet

Lmao, RoB is the best vital per pack. Use your own gold goy.
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>>170502508
this >>170502609 desu

anything i get from these 8 packs is just gonna be vials for the new expansion anyways, unless i pulled 3 neps or some shit
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>>170503298

She's a samurai meido.

She'll do fine off that alone I think.
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>>170503298
They will promote Latham.
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>>170503551
They will promote your suicide.
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>>170503392
>he doesn't know about the crazy tier 1 combo next patch

Lmao if you already vital it.
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>>170503392
Atomy is already strong and he's getting stronger with all the new shadow cards
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>>170503261
The devs are incompetent and accidentally make ridiculously OP neutral cards without realising how broken they are.
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>>170503551
kill yourself faggot
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>israfel
>zeus
It's all Saha food, this isn't fair.
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DRAGON LEGENDARY CONFIRMED!!!!
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Say, I need a clarification

Belphegor does damage to your leader until vengeance is active

How would it interact with Bloody Mary? Is it just an OTK if it activates? The wording implies that the damage is done incrimentally
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>>170503703
>posting fake cards

kys
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>>170503703
stop with the OC autist
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>>170503443
>>170503479
Hips to waist ratio is the only thing that matters. Tits and ass implants are fucking widely available and cheap even in third world shit holes now. Even if she has a tiny ass and a flat chest, she'll still look amazing with wide hips. A female with narrow hips is like a short pear shaped manlet.
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>>170502508
Source
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/481/1481984/

I'm hoping for some saha/nephtits in my packs, I have everything else from the set.
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>>170503551
This one is over the line, fag. Please do us a favor and kys so your homosexuality won't taint this place no longer.
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>>170503823
I just need Albertos. Which means 7th Daria inc.
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>>170503703
>Namefags
>Tripfags
>OCfags
How did we get all 3 so fast? Like literally just last week the threads had none of this, and since 2 days ago or so it's been back to back shitposting namefag, then tripfag, and now OC autism.
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>>170503792
My nigga
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>>170503443
>what's the appeal of boobs
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Guys, I'm a hagfag from 2 months in the future. I know you all hate my kind, but hear my plea. You have to stop Cygames from releasing ToG.

Here is how it will turn out in most games

>turn 7 Wight Emperor (the one you referred as Undying Lord)
>themis
>turn 8 Wight Emperor
>themis
>turn 9 Wight Emperor
>no themis. has to drop aegis and hope for next turn Bahamut
>turn 10 eachtar and soul conversion on the zombie for 18 damage OTK

Please. Stop this from happening in your time line!
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>>170502508
can't wait to open 28 bronzes and 28 silver cards!
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>>170503429
>I DoD my opponents Atomy
>They play Ceridwen and evolve her bringing Atomy back
It was a neat combo. Oh, also, if you Urd Atomy and then evolve Ceridwen you'd have two Atomy's right?
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What is with swordshitters and their braindead compulsion to use evolves on Albert? I don't think I've ever seen a swordshitter not evolve a turn 5 Albert.
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>>170503703
Original card posts are fucking awful, take that shit back to r/shadowverse
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>>170503896
>OC is a bad thing
Now I've seen everything.
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>>170503958
Just themis it bro
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>>170503790
>>170503896
>waaaaa muh tripfags ruining
>waaa muh ocfags ruining

jesus christ did they killed your family? No one cares if they are trips or ocfags, you guys that "call them out" are fucking annoying
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>>170503976
>get one gold
>it's Secrets of Erasmus
>your 4th one
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>>170504009
Ceridwen doesn't bring Atomy back you liar
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>>170504020
See, if they are Aggro Sword, they are pushing for more damage anyway

And 5/7 Albert is a bit hard to remove if you dont have DoD
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>>170503760
nobody knows

you could argue either side, just wait till the card comes out and test it yourself.
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>>170504036
It's always how generals go. There's usually a move to de-anonymize everything, and then the people who don't want that push back, drive out all forms of creativity and turn the threads into a wasteland of stale memes and waifuposting
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>>170504009
>if you Urd Atomy and then evolve Ceridwen you'd have two Atomy's right?
Yes.
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>>170504190
Yea she does
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>>170504036
OC probably meant original card, not original content
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>>170503976
I only got 2 golds total from the 7 free packs.
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>>170504146
>No one cares if they are trips
Wrong. The general would be way better without tripfags. Kill yourself, ESL-kun.
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>not putting Satan in every deck

fucking plebs
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>>170504036
I don't think he is talking about OC as in ''Original Content''. He is probably just complaining about Create-a-Card autists.
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>>170504374
you're a fucking autistic child. How the fuck does having a trip next to your name changes anything?

I don't even notice they have trips/names UNLESS you faggots point.
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>>170504146
jesus christ did they killed your family? No one cares if they are whining about trips and ocfags, you guys that "call them out" are fucking annoying
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>>170504146
>No one cares if they are trips
Tripfags have been a cancer to this site since tripcodes have been a thing. It's like the one thing that pretty much every 4chan board agrees on.

I don't mind OC but he shouldn't pretend it's an actual spoiler, even if it's painfully obvious.
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>>170504553
>>170504617
>all this fucking autism over someone using tripcode
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>>170504526
Is there no spanish version of 4chan for people like you? Is this the first general you have been part of? Tripfags are the death of on-topic discussion in any general.
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>>170503703
Stop posting fakes during the ramp up to an xpak
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>>170504526
>How the fuck does having a trip next to your name changes anything?
Not the anon you replied to, but trips\namefagging puts generals on a fast track to circle jerking. Which leads to elitist circles and basically everything thats wrong with other forums that utilize names\identities (gamefags, plebbit, ect)
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>>170504617
Stop replying to them, anyone defending it is just a tripfag/namefag that took it off
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>>170500120

>Hi, I wasn't present during DE and have never play Shadowcraft the post

What did he mean by this.
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>>170503429
Gotta nut that t2/t3 atomemes
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>>170504884
What was wrong with Haven in DE?
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>>170504526
t. reddit

you have to go back
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>>170504708
How new are you?
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>>170504708
>site whose core philosophy is based on anonymity and what's being said over who is saying it

>attention whores who blatantly abuse a feature as a pseudo-username wonder why they are hated

Fuck off to reddit if you want a name so badly.
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>>170504942
Everyone and their mothers complained about Elana, Garuda and Seraph.
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>>170504526
>>170504708
Is this your first general? It starts with the names, then the trips come, then the circlejerking and drama that infests forums comes with it. There's a reason it's an anonymous imageboard. You're autistic if you ignore the customs of a place.
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>>170505036
Only Elana was broken, Storm Haven was fine.
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>turn 1 Front Lines in at least 3 games
I CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

Also is this the hour for children to play? Many of my matches were against B rank or lower, I felt bad.
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>>170504617
>Tripfags have been a cancer to this site since tripcodes have been a thing. It's like the one thing that pretty much every 4chan board agrees on.
Actually, most people from the very beginning of 4chan used names because they came from other websites like SA. The standard anonymous thing didn't take off until the chanology incidents and /b/ started raiding places, sometime between 2006 and 7. But you wouldn't know that since 99% of the userbase joined post 2010.
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>>170504942
Never forget the 6 gorillion banished followers.
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>>170504036
The thread should only be about waifuposting and greentext stories about what is cancer apparently.
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>>170503958
>Fuhrer Eris wants more shadowcraft suffering
Don't believe Fuhrer Eris's lies!
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>>170504836
>Not the anon you replied to, but trips\namefagging puts generals on a fast track to circle jerking. Which leads to elitist circles and basically everything thats wrong with other forums that utilize names\identities (gamefags, plebbit, ect)
You mean like literally the discordfags who make the OP and control the threads from the shadows? Gee I wonder who is behind this.
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>>170496687
It doesn't really change much though, at least with current decks. Most of the things that kill Otohime still happen on turn 5 and 6 anyway (if you went first you won't get the evo faster than their AoE, while if you went second they get turn 6 right after you play your turn 5 Otohime)

With the current Control Sword still wants that turn 9 Albert enhance strategy. All you do with this is play your Frontguard General a turn earlier at the cost of not flooding the field, rushing on turn 4, or getting a free 2 drop that could be a potential 0 drop with ward. Gawain will need a new deck filled with commanders to really show his stuff.
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>>170503958

Midrange Shadow with highest curve at 7PP with Eachtar and Undying Lord? Sounds dreadful.
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The irony is that the people with trips/names on are talking about the game while the fat fucks sperging out are not.
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>>170505543
kys
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>>170505543
stop attentionwhoring and nobody will complain
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>>170505543
(You)
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>>170503976
>28 Feenas
free vials
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>>170505597

If anyone is going to kill themselves it's probably going to be the autist complaining about names and trips.
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>>170505150
Default anonymous has been a feature since day 1 and prior to that if you consider the site 4chan is based on. Yes, early users used names but most of them didn't become full tripfags and many of them ended up dropping names after /b/ took off (which is still part of the sites culture for better or worse).

The fact of the matter is now there is a very clear culture across virtually every board that tripfagging is something to be discouraged.

>>170505543
Tripfagging is something that must be nipped at the bud, it's a symptom of a general devolving into a circlejerk. If you feel a lump on your nutsack you're not going to wait until you have cancer to do something about it.
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>>170505124
You have the flair yet?
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>trips and names autofiltered
>all replies to trip/named posts auto hidden
Based script
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>>170505829
kill yourself faggot
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>>170505829
No, I don't play arena enough to get it. I only played a round tonight because I have nothing better to do before bed.
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>>170505858
>>170505858
I don't know why people don't just use anonynimize by default. I think newfags just don't even know what 4chanX is nowadays.
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>>170505725
Namefagging/Tripfagging apologists are the worst and should kill themselves.
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>tfw Urding their Crystalia Eve
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Can I make it before the next expansion hit bros?

I already want to kill myself with all the grind.
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Hey guys, Elizabeth here...

Are you guys talking about me?

I have done nothing to this general but try to generate on topic card discussion despite all the insults and macho pride bullshit that everyone spergs constantly.

Here's how the general goes nowdays

>complains about the OP being too long or too short
>complains about names or trips
>complains about Daria/Sword/Seraph/Bahamut/Olivia (take 2)
>overreaction to spoiled cards
>shitting on dragon/blood
>complaining about dragon/blood being underwhelming
>lewdfags and vampyfags
>dub vs undub

I am literally fighting to bring card game discussion without my trip every chance I can

Also posting this without my trip just for the little rascals that think that they avpid from my female informed opinions and facts
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>>170506018
kill yourself faggot
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>>170503760
probably works like azazel
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>>170506138
Are you single, milady?
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>>170506138
Just ignore the loud minority You should post more often and they will eventually forget about you having a trip
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>>170506138
>I have done nothing to this general
The moment you put on a trip you start shit. You are making the conscious decision to make the general worse.

If you are trying to contribute why do you need a name behind your posts? What purpose at all does you identity have to do with anything you are trying to say. You can't get upvoted here. You're just trying to be an attention whore.
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44142 (Golly)
need a full win or just concede if we already played
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>playing Control Sword
>tired of getting shit on and taunted by Dshit
>Dshitters keep saying it's okay to have unwinnable matchups
>switch to Albertocraft
>mfw annihilating Dshitters left and right by turn 6 now

Feels good to give them a taste of their own medicine.
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>>170506432
Doesn't control sword run all the storm cards too?
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>>170506432
>not wrecking dshift with an evo frontguard general
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>we're getting THOSE people now
I give this general 3 months.
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>>170506104
i wouldn't cross a floor right now. ladder is a lot easier atm because of granboobs and you'll be hurting later
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>>170506515
Petify ;^)
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>>170506515
He just gets hit by Fiery Embrace or Right of Exorcism.
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>>170506413
done ty
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>>170506536
>THOSE people
I mean. It's pretty obvious that it's just one retard.
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>>170506138
It's an anonymous imageboard. If you do not want to abide with the custom of the house you are visiting, leave. You can jerk yourself off at reddit or some shitty forum.
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>>170506138
You have to realize that this is one of the worst moments for /svg/. I can't be fucked to play the game beyond dailies because I want the new expansion to hit. Many posters are the same way as me. The game is stale right now and the exp will bring new content to discuss.

Tripfagging/namefagging problems aside, my point is that it isn't a problem in itself that the general's quality is low. If It stays low when ToG hits, it's another story, but we'll see how that goes.

Don't be like that autistic namefag, don't trip/name, nobody gives a fuck about you, get over yourself. You seem to care about the general, so don't trip.
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Literally why does dragon even exist when everybody has our shit but better
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>>170506763
How is it stale when the meta's been shifting so much in the last week? I'm still trying to adapt properly considering now most of Runecraft is DShift again and I'm having trouble finding Daria.
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>stuck in AA2
>switch to blood
>winstreaks to AA3
>/svg/ constantly talks about how bad blood is

Why do blood players have such a victim complex?
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>>170506885
>Overpowered cancer deck 3 is played instead of overpowered cancer deck 7
Because every match is faggotry?
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>>170503392
My first (and only) animated legos is a flute.

A. Fucking. Flute.
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>>170506763
>trip/namefags
>caring about generals outside of getting their (You)s
Are you new?
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>>170506885
You're right, it isn't stale at all, but there isn't much point in figuring out a meta that will disappear at the end of the month. Even if there is something to figure out, there's isn't much incentive to do so. The new cards are so powerful that they will completely blow away this current meta.
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>>170506871
>4 amulets on the playing field and having only a 2/2 in play
my sides
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I got Shadow for T2 so that's a nogo. Can anyone recommend me a leggo-less Sword deck to get through 7 games?
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>>170506763
You've got it all wrong my dude. The roleplaying tripcuck is actually a genuine shitposter while the namefag guy is the one who just tries to talk about the game. Just take a look at the previous thread.
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Gimme a JO deck
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>1 off lethal on t8 vs swordcraft twice in a row
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>>170506947
>anecdotal evidence
>wooooow works for me
Alright
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I just lost to a Dragonflute deck. If I would have drawn anything but absolute garbage, it'd be an easy 150 points, but god forbid.

Goodnight, /svg/
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>a second batch of Undying Lord + that free Wight King can OTK for exact 20 damage thanks to Eachtar on turn 9

I'm worried, /svg/.
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>>170507113

Also works for the #1 person on ladder.

Blood also had a 56% winrate in the most recent EXG tourny while every other craft has 51 or lower.

?
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Daily reminder that even when dragon gets something nice it will be viciously snatched away
https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/xjhasf.webm

>>170506978
We're getting more draw. Flute's gonna be fun when TotG drops

>>170507032
I had only garbage left. I'd already used everything else.
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>>170506965
So it's not the meta that's getting stale, it's the actual game though I kinda agree. Go play something else for a while.
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>>170506965
>overpowered
>Consistently only around 45% win rate

Both DShift and Ramp dragon are among the worst performing decks in the meta, and they're the second and third most played if not higher now (since Daria has clearly slipped down further since last week). Almost every craft has decks that do much better, it's really diverse at the moment. Probably among the most diverse the game's ever seen in terms of craft distribution.
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>>170507134
Don't feel bad, I actually lost to Dragon Roost because I was drunk and didn't realize I drew into all my Khways and Mordes and tried to Nep.
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>>170506018
Whz can't you just post without a name? Oh right, you want to derail the thread and you don't care about this game.
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>>170507067
Oh, he's talking about the game. He can keep his name, that's A-OK then!

Fucking kill yourself man
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>>170507162
I'm frustrated cause I have to mulch into this cancer day after day just to get dailies so I can hit ~38 packs to finally get One, (1), uno, ichi, french for 1 lego and maybe 4 golds if I'm lucky so I can play other decks in a budget list or at least have more cards to vial for lists.

And it's only getting worse every expansion that generates more core cards.
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>>170507064
Just make aggro sword and replace alberts with avant bladers or demonic strike
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>>170507160
>https://p.fuwafuwa.moe/xjhasf.webm
holy shit my sides
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>>170507067
It's an anonymous imageboard, if you want a name to jerk yourself off, leave. What part of that is hard to grasp?
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>>170507338
>french for 1
It's "Un".
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>48 cards revealed including 2 neutral legendaries and golds
>still no Aegis counter

I'm literally shaking right now. This can't be real. Elana will have 4 drop 3/3 that can heal too.
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>>170507436
LITERALLY UNKILLABLE
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>>170507436
Don't forget mist shaman too. Oh, thought you'd just DoD that holyflame tiger? Too bad bucko, target immune 9/x
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>>170507436
9pp let my opponent hit my face
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>>170507436

By turn 9, Haven has already won with Seraph though.
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>>170507373
Pretty good
Careful there, you'll trigger the dragon players
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>>170507540
>not healing
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>>170507436
How do you counter Sun Guardian Aegis?
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http://sv.bagoum.com/seevote/tempest

>Minthe
>that amount of Top tier votes

There's just no way she's gonna be that good, other than being top tier waifu. Maybe if some OP silver rarity necromancy card gets printed.
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>yfw playing bahamat in t2
>yfw getting baha-blasted in t2
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>>170507539
I didn't realize it, but Storm will be pretty disgusting with that 2-drop. I wonder if it'll see play. They'll probably cut Doggo or Mainyu if it's worth.
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>>170507318
>Oh, he's talking about the game. He can keep his name
No one said that, autist. I'm just pointing out to the other anon not to take the roleplaying tripautists shitposting seriously. >>170507425
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>>170507532
It isn't. You just need to reduce its defense to zero.
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>>170507532
Rune Lego spell
"the game will be played on a different board"
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>>170507609
Outhealing those storm damage will be pretty hard
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>>170507540
Does it matter when you're at 20 HP because of heals and your opponent forced to trade if they don't want Elana turns rabbit healer into 9/8?
>>
Hey It's me
Vania
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>>170507436
Many new cards summon shitloads of followers or buff yours, the opponent cant just play a 9pp do nothing

>>170507625
Well that would be cheating because it's not affected by any card effect unless it increases/decreases its attack and defense
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>>170507606
Thanks for reminding me to try and work out an aggro dragon list with wyrm spires to try and justify 3x draconification.

>>170507625
Concede, exit the game and play something else? Even if you dumped all your cheap little wards and roped your little heart out he knows he has you and he can still themis or bahamut the way clear regardless
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>>170507436
>was a shadow and blood cuck in DE
>finally broke in rob and started experimenting with any cancerous deck i could get my hands on
>now settled with haven and am looking forward to being t1 with all my busted toys in the new expansion
it feels good lads
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>>170507791
Please grind my face into the ground with your shoe
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Why is this card just a flat-out worse version of Rite of Exorcism?
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>>170507818
Like seraph, they can time a death sentence/tribunal or even inquiry if they're a madman to cover the play
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>>170507846
Do not reply to yourself
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>>170507160
>those card costs
>rowen played a fucking phoenix roost in that game
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>>170507723
just T8 themis and T9 Aegis, Just clear the board and place
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>>170507436
Just play around Themis, Tribunal, Cudgel and Lion Spirit and push passed Curate, Radiant Angel and Guardian Sun to kill them before T10 bro.
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>>170507791
Hey bb
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Will my missions for the Granblue sleeves disappear if I don't finish them by the 10th?
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>>170507927
Because it's not rune
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Give me Albert deck list
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>"hey we should make more neutral and low/medium cost banish cards, so players won't have to just pray they draw their odin to deal with shit like mordecai and other annoying last words, and seraph"
>"hm, but what can we do?"
>"i know, lets give haven, the one craft with the most banish and removal a immortal follower"
>aegis is printed
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>>170507436

So I heard you think you can survive up to turn 9.
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>People actually think Aegis is good
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>>170507160
Why won't the universe let Rowen meme in peace?
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>>170508002
I just fapped Anon, why would you post this
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>>170508004
Yes. You should finish them if you want those sleeves before then.
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>>170508058
I don't know it's almost better this way. Instead of having all the players bitching where you lose just because you don't have an Odin, it doesn't even matter. Either you race them down fast enough or they play Aegis and beat you down with it. No answers or luck involved.
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>>170507990
That's the point of storm, not to mention you also cleared your board. No wards against the incoming albert.
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>>170507627
>Belphegor
>No votes
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>>170508150
Because I haven't fapped yet and I'm here to have Vania take care of me.
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>>170508228
She's S tier though
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Because it is forest. Cygames hates forest. Most players who are ungas bungas hate forest. Look at that 9% play rate even lower than Blood.
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Face Dragon is pretty fun
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>>170508328
Honestly, if she can enable a guaranteed T9 OTK with Bloody Mary, she'll be completely broken and you won't hear the end of it on /svg/. I hope they haven't fucked up, but the wording clearly implies that it's possible. I'm legit scared.
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>>170495721
Please consider a singleton format
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>>170508458
PtP and Dshift can kill on turn 6, what's the big deal?
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>>170507818
>Well that would be cheating because it's not affected by any card effect unless it increases/decreases its attack and defense
Oh, it's double sided then? Ok. Though then he's still elana fodder. Shit's gonna be scary.
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>>170508458

no longer my boy
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>>170508458
It's one instance of damage meaning you'll do 10 damage at most.
Unless Blood gets a PPreduction card then there isn't going to be a t9 OTK
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>>170508458
T9 you can also OTK with Baphometed Azazel.
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Take note, shadow players. This card will be a sleeper OP next expansion.

Why can't I hold all these Undying Lord?
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>>170508458
Logic would dictate they just put the Azazel effect they had programmed onto the card but both anons translation and the official translation have made it sound like it ticks the hp down incrementally.

Could go either way but I'd say the former is more likely than the latter. Maybe they want to give blood an actual win condition and it'll actually be a thing, who knows.
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>>170508596
Baphomet tutors and reduces a 5+ atk by 3pp
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>tfw just finished getting the last of my granblue quests
Somehow Ramp Satan pulled through for me.
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>>170508596
>Deal damage to your leader until their defense drops to 10
I hope you're right, but the wording doesn't support your claim.

>>170508724
Azazel's text is:
>Change both leaders' defense to 10, either by [...]
Why would they word it differently, if it does the same thing?
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>>170508682
Earthriters are gonna bite your ass off
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>>170508596
>It's one instance of damage meaning you'll do 10 damage at most.
The text literally says "deal damage to your leader until their defense drops to 10" which implies otherwise.
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>>170508831
The Japanese wording is clear. It works the same as Azazel.
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>>170508832

And how many Calamitious are you going to run? Better have 6 then.

And then Eachtar comes and rides your ass off.
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>>170508834
>implying english text matters
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>>170508831
>>170508834
The Japanese wording for the damage version of Azazel's effect is consistent with Bel's
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>>170508834
Astaroth also says that, but it only does +1 with dragonclaw pendant.
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>>170508907
Show me the japanese text then.
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Where is my OP Forest legos Cygames?

You can't just keep fucking us over and not doing anything to fix the class.
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>>170508351
>Make combo class
>Make almost all its combo cards trash
>Give it one viable wincon that requires multiple cards to do
>Give it the worst card draw in the game
It's basically a cruel joke at this point.
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>>170507373
Holy shit, just noticed that lurching corpse has eyes, teeth and everything. I thought his head was just a hammerhead-something.
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>>170508979
>worst card draw in the game
But that's not sword.
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>>170508834

>Make it so Blood's super strong wincon can't be achieved in Vengeance

I actually like that idea, you either play around Vengeance, or you play around their lethal if you're not able to ward up or heal up or whatever.
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>>170508973
>wants op legendaries
>has ancient elf and tia
Forest is fine you cuck.
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Cute! CUTE!
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>>170508892
>>170508918
Alright, phew. That's reassuring. They fucked up, and it's a big one, but the combo isn't possible and that's what matters. They'll have to change the text before the exp hits, that'll be really confusing to new players.
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>>170508973
>Forest is tier 1 from the start of the game until now
>strategies revolve around non-interactive storm cards or amulets
>finally gets a nerf that makes it not tier 1
>THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
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>>170508963
Here's Azazel
Someone post Bel
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>>170509096
if the combo isn't possible than belphegor is shit tier, and literally just a worse soul dealer.
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>>170507875
>was a tier 3 cuck in DE
>broke in RoB and migrated to a different tier 3 class now that shadow is actually good
Don't kid yourself, loser, if aegis decks are as strong as people fear they'll be then you'll find another excuse to switch to a garbage deck that gives you an excuse for why you lose so much
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>>170509161
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So when are the English effects going to be rewritten?
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>>170509161
it's the same wording, should be in english something like "enough damage to bring your health to 10"
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>>170509087
Seems like for rob and tog they are aiming for the fujo demographic.
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>>170509059
Sword has multiple tutors that are playable, Forest has a conditional draw 2 or an amulet that's slow as fuck and conditional.
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>>170509243
cygames has shit translators, they can't even reailize that ''''yurius'''' is supposed to be julius
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>>170509231
Bel's primary effect really needs to be "draw 2 cards with Vengeance"
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>>170509087
aww, wind reader is so cute, some runecraft adept should turn him into a girl :3
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>>170508328
>>170509205

>S tier
>lore-wise, Belphegor's sacrificial offering is excrement

Can't make this Shit up.
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>>170509205
Nah, the card is good. Dire Bond into Bel is good. Soul Dealer will halve your HP, Bel will keep you at 10. That means you can drop Bel in the early/mid game and heal up with Dire Bond ticks/Diabolic/Vamp kiss etc. Non-blood players always forget about Dire Bond, but you are always near 10 hp before the evo turns anyway.
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>>170508794
How is that relevant in the slightest to Mary and the new meme? They're both 4 attack. This is yet another meme overhyped by retards that don't play Blood outside of aggro dailies, and will be forgot a week in. Literally Bloody Mary hype all over again.
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>>170509406
I'll turn you into a woman.
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>a elfshitters crying over a 3 mana nuetral bronze card getting nerfed
If you treefuckers really want your roaches to always be pulled then get rid of your 1 drop minions then you fucking autists.
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>>170509406
Fuck off Vampy, let us shota fans have something for once
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>>170508973
>Decks are fine
>Gets a sticky follower for token mulching in tempo
>Off-curve 3pp 3/4 storm roach-lite in anything
>Another cheap overstatted combo jenga piece for tempo
>Cheap cynthia/eiren combo jenga ward
>Can now slash your fairy generators from the deck for tempo
>Super fairy beast for tempo/control that now wards in addition to fucking aggro in the ass and great evo point recovery

>>170508920
>JO disco ramp satan
>Astaroth does 19 instances of 1 dmg instead
>3 crystals
>76 face
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>>170509483

Why are they crying when they are getting albert tier cancer next expansion for 3PP?

>2 1/1 and 3/4 Storm on turn 5
>this is apparently a bad play
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>>170509457
>always near 10hp near the turn 4

D rank? Even with dire bond at turn 3 you should have almost no dmg because of vanpire kiss and unica
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wind reader is a great card btw, pretty much a powercreeped laura because it's 1 pp cheaper, has 2/2 stats and doesn't need you to have 10hp, but to be in the overflow
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>>170509696

>excluding the 1 EP

EGGGGGGSSS
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>>170509696
>Laura: Fanfare
>Zell: Evo
No fuck off
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>>170509087
I want to have sex with that elf
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>>170508351
>>170508979
>Rank C retards complaining about Forest of all things being underpowered
Look here you fucking shitters. Let's just start this right off the bat with the F A C T that there hasn't been a SINGLE meta in the game's ENTIRE lifepsan without a tier 1 Forest deck (Standard = PtP, DE = Tempo, RoB = OTK). Forest is the most nerfed class in the game (almost every single card nerfed in closed beta due to being tier 0, Harvest Festival and Home Coming in standard, and now indirectly resulted in Gobu's nerf). Yet, the class still out fucking performs Dragon, Blood, and Haven in every fucking metric once you get out of your C to A dumpster ranks. The class, right now post nerf, is positive against every other class except Sword.
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>>170509696
>Cocytus his power play
>Laura servant t9
>Or needs an evolution you don't have some 7 or 8 turns into the game that then requires late-game or cavalier's for combo.
Hmmmm
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>>170509583
>albert tier cancer
lol
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>>170509790
>what is olivia
>what is ramp

Lmao. Laura can't be used unless you are at 10hp. Wind dude can at 7pp, which you can save your evolve points for.
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>>170509825
>roach still not nerfed

really tickles the walnuts
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>>170509840

>lol at a 2 1/1s and a 5/6 storm board

lol
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>>170509830
except dragon also ramps
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>>170509626
An aggro deck will leave you at 11 HP to avoid being crushed by Rev. You can punish that play with Bel, -1HP lost, Vengeance triggered, 2 cards drawn. You can evo her and Diabolic Drain for 1 on T5.
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>>170509798
enter the line, cause im going in first
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>>170509210
anon, what the fuck are you on about

i wasn't saying anything that complicated so i don't know how you managed to misinterpret my post that badly
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>try sun satan
>had the perfect moment to use ancient lion spirit
>accidentally use my healing angel instead
>shame concede

I hate myself at times
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>>170509906
At this point if they nerfed roach forest would be completely unplayable. I feel bad for forest players. Sure they have a good class, but you're stuck to literally one class-specific strategy. There's no guarantee that they'll ever get a new one, and if roach is nerfed their class is gone.
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>>170509830
Cocytus on turn 8 enchance automatically make it obvious you have laura if you are playing control blood. Good luck trying to get to 10 hp without killing yourself.
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>>170509967
dumb frog poster
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>>170509457
People that says she's a bad Soul Dealer don't understand this. Putting you right at vengeance along with drawing two cards and good stats makes her a good card on curve honestly. Even going first a combo of Bel into Diabolic Drain is already good. She's pretty much made Soul Dealer useless except for future potential Baphomet/Bloody Mary combos. I'm sure Cygames originally designed Vampire to be a high risk/high reward style, but most current aggro and control decks don't really play that way and mostly use vengeance cards that are good both in and out of it.
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>>170509892
After you are done ramping you are always at a disadvantage because all the ramping cards have no good effects other than ramping. That means when you reach Overflow you are always at a disadvantage because the opponent has been setting up board, hitting your face and/or fetching cards for combos/wincons. You don't have the luxury of playing MORE cards to set up "future" combos, that's why cards like Wyvern Cavalier don't set up winning combos, because by the time you're there in the game you're starting to lose and need to work on getting tempo. So wasting more playing Olivia isn't going to save your ass.
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>>170510000
If they nerfed roach they'd be able to make actual decent cards around forest's core mechanic.
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>>170509942
It also has to make up for those dead turns
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>>170509457
>Dire Bond into Bel is good
for what purpose
if you dropped dire bond early you already can overflow your hand, so why would you draw two cards while having dire bond out

she is bad without an early dire bond or mary, simply unusable
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>>170510016
dumb ESL shitposter
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>"maining" only one or two crafts
>not playing at least five of them
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>>170510103
>because all the ramping cards have no good effects other than ramping
dragon fervor... doragon-san's bitch...
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>>170509892
Alright, it's turn 6, you've stormed with a leviathan because you didn't nut cavalier hydra, what's the next move in your master plan?
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>>170510024
That's the idea yeah. The thing is, Blood and Dragon can get really insanely powerful if they make ONE mistake. One OP card and it's all over. That's why those crafts are considered bad. They require skill to pilot well, because if they didn't, that'd mean that the craft is OP. I can understand Cygames being very timid with those classes, even if it's seen as "lol we'll never be good xD".
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>>170510124
They could, but there's no guarantee. As a non-forest player, I'd love to see that. More enjoyable matchups besides "race them or have a ward or lose," and forest players will have more variety too. Unfortunately with storm becoming more popular, I couldn't see them nerfing roach, and then replacing it with some viable non-storm / non-OTK card.
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>>170510195
>and that craft is called Sword and Rune
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>>170510103
But you made one big miscalculation. You can't beat the egg.
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>>170510024
>>170509457
>I've never played CBlood for more than 2 games in rank A: the post
CBlood can't handle that much draw. You'll be overdrawing with a single Dire Bond over half the time, because the deck is filled with high mana bricks. Also, unlike Dire, the new slut has critical weakness. You can't use her to trigger turn 7 revelation.

If they don't print more mana cheated shit when in vengeance like Diabolic, she's worthless. CBlood needs safety and ways to not fucking die from hand, not more "lmao just kill yourself to draw more of your mediocre cards". The class STILL DOESN'T HAVE A REAL FUCKING WINCON. Mary is a meme that could have been somewhat legitimate, but they fucking excluded her from the tutor pool.
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>>170510247
Yes.... 3 hp that bricks the shit out of your play... When they have ~5dmg on the board plus whatever they play that turn.
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>>170509337
Maybe they're just afraid of Konami lawsuits?
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>>170510265
Grea storm at 10pp. 2 for one special
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How good would this card be in blood?
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>>170510153
not him but she's not even close to being unusable. one of the most frustrating things as blood is having the opponent leave you at 11 health. you rarely ever want to dire bond to put yourself into vengeance at that point but using belph is fine.
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>>170510000
>if roach is nerfed their class is gone.
This sort of thinking is as stupid as the people before RoB who said rune would have no non-joke decks if dshift was nerfed; in a hypothetical world where it was nerfed rune still has decks b/c tempo rune was created out of thin air and dirt rune got strong new tools. If they wanted to nerf roach and keep forest alive, they could do the exact same thing with an expansion that pushes aggro forest into existence and gives a few more cards to wolfbolt
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>>170510247
>dragon fervor
Dragon Fervor cost 5. If you play it on curve it's "Do nothing keep getting raped because opponent already has board advantage". Which mean you are likely to play it after you've gained Overflow. Which mean by the time you play it you're already done ramping.
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>>170510394
did konami patent the name julius caesar
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>>170510370
Salamander breath bro
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>>170509934
can you post the card data again, i can't find it anywhere?

>>170510485
use blood pact or something? or, i dunno, razory claw if you run mary anyway
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>have 4x animated moriana
>she will never be viable
its not fair bros
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>>170510351
The card introduces another way to play the class instead of how it's always been commonly played. People played around with Soul Dealer and Vengeance based decks when the game came out, so it might actually become possible with Bel. Of course playing her is a big risk but that's pretty much how the class was designed in the first place.
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>>170510468
Grea's 3 dmg and you're too hard pressed to slot in a serpent force or tamers

>>170510546
>board has 2+ followers with 3+ def
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>>170510491
I agree, but my point was that there's no guarantee of those new cards coming out. The devs are not infallible and can't always predict the future. They can try to tweak the metagame, but if they release a new set and forest doesn't have a competitive deck after a roach nerf, they can't just say "sorry, we meant for forest to have a tier 1 deck, let's nerf and buff stuff to make it happen."
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>>170510485
>>170509947

If they leave you at 11hp on turn 4-6. You are fuck regardless since you can't use Bel and revelation at the same time. Might as well use blood pack into revelation.
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>>170510637

Third link in the OP. Anyway

Beetle Warrior
Bronze Forest
3PP Follower
2/3 → 4/5
Fanfare: Gain +1/+1 and Storm if at least 2 other cards were played this turn.
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>>170509087
my wife on the right
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>>170510282
I can "understand" Cygames being timid with any class that isn't arisa isabelle or erika, since those are the postergirls, but I'm not going to pretend it's some kind of masterful design choice for the health of the card game
They already made their ONE mistake with forest, the one OP card known as rhinoceroach. The craft is OP, yet people seem to manage somehow. It would be perfectly fucking fine for them to push blood or dragon in a risky way, it's just not aligned with their marketing incentives
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>>170510641
Moriana is as viable as you're willing to make her
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>>170510620
Wait, so that ability doesn't cost shadows, it only requires you to have a certain amount?
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>>170510485
How the fuck will she solve the "set up board leave at 11" dilemma? Your answer to their board is either Revelation or Devil, and you'd need 8 mana to use Belph and either of those. She's fucking worthless, and doesn't do shit to fix Blood's "flood board leave at 11" weakness. At least Dire allows you to play revelation a turn earlier, and slowly refunds you back the HP.

Belph is the same as every other newly released Blood card. It assumes the core is actually functional, but it's not. Blood still has the EXACT same weakness it had in standard. No real way to protect from OTKs from hand, completely helpless against flood board leave over 10 HP, and no way to ever come back if you don't draw the 2 good fucking vengeance cards ever printed.
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>>170510773

It's CaC
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>>170510773
No, it costs necromancy like any other shadow card but then the text would have been way too tiny .
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>>170510738
seems good at cooking, or at least at serving the table
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>>170510773
don't reply to the oc autist
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>>170510286
They already have viable tempo options in Cynthia and Tia, it's just not enough because roach limits the design space of the whole game.
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>all males are pretty boi bishies
So this is how girls feel when misrepresented...
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>>170510539
Vampire craft leader "Urias Formonde" (Yuriasu Forumondo) is a blatant reference to Julius Belmont. They even managed to translate Yuriasu two different ways without resorting to Julius
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>>170510620
can you choose what cad to play without having 8 shadows? The first sentence is worded weird.
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>>170509087
I want to /ss/ that butler
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>>170510796
>No real way to protect from OTKs from hand
3 PP Yurius
Upcoming:
3 PP Grimnir
2 PP Spiderweb Imp
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>>170510941
they are talking about yulius, that's that 1/3 bronze follower that makes you kill yourself
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>>170510951
fort launderdale?
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>>170510741
Roach is fine. Learn to accept combo decks.
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>>170511043
Just because roach decks aren't overpowered doesn't mean the card itself isn't overpowered in a way that harms the game.
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>>170510938
>he is not good looking

Lol just hit the gym bro :")
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>>170511014
*3PP Veidt
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>3 dance of death and 2 alberts by turn 9
is it even possible to beat this
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>>170510796
Because when you're not living in a fantasy world, you're actually playing removal or minions before you drop her and you aren't dealing with more than a couple minions at that point. Using Wardrobe on 4 to clear and then having Belph into Drain on 5 is enough to clear most floods if you drew at least 1 kiss/horde and a 2 or 3 drop.

>No real way to protect from OTKs from hand
Replace Bahamut with Zeus and use Imp :^)
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>>170511014
>>170511119
And also 2 PP Bellringer
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>March 2017
>People still crying about roach
My fucking sides
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>>170510938
they also released goblin zombie though...
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>>170510667
She doesn't introduce shit, quit spouting optimistic garbage just to sound knowledgeable. The meme dealer aggro decks of early standards disappeared over night when aggro Shadow and storm Dragon hit the scene, and haven't ever been played since. Now we have a tutorable 1 card 10 damage from hand, and the game is only ever getting faster and faster.

Blood needs good wards or immunity, Blood needs good wincons, Blood needs good vengeance cards so there's an actual REWARD to the risk you're taking, instead of just risk for the sake of it. No, it doesn't need fucking beatsticks, no it doesn't need more redundant meme dealers and draw, and it doesn't need any more fucking cheap cards. The only good cards Blood has are the cheap ones, there's a reason fucking Blood aggro is the only decent fucking deck of the class. Stop fucking printing imps and memes, and give us Timeless Witch and Khawy.
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>>170511043
dshift is balanced. OTK dragonewt is balanced. seraph is balanced. a combo deck could exist which is stronger than those, and still be balanced. roach is not that deck
forestcraft is unambiguously a top 3 deck, and its only bad matchups are the other decks which are unambiguously top 3. It beats literally everything else. How is that acceptable, besides "I am an AA1 tryhard who has yet to realize the full strength of the roachfuckers"?
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JUST

THEMIS
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M
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>just want to do GBF quests for Haven with Sun Satan
>All the nep decks in unranked and ranked

What the fuck
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Balthazar skin? i want to bully blood with him
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>>170511330
I'm surprised the GBF event is still going.
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>>170511414
I just got all my sleeves yesterday, and that's just from doing dailies only.
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>>170510938
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>>170511330
Isn't that good for you? Nep has a bad match-up agaisnt Sun Satan, right?
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>>170506138
UNICOOOOOOOOOOORN
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The 3PP Megalorca card makes me think that they might make a Legendary around this tribe.
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>>170510938
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>>170511856
MEGA Megalorca confirmed
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>>170511668
Noooot really, its hard to manage your banishes to deal with the mordecais if you didnt slot in odin
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>>170512101
>if you didnt slot in odin
If you aren't running odin why even bother with anything but Seraph
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New leaks when?
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>>170511303
>no sleeves
>playing janky trash cards
This must be Take T-
>animated Dragon Rider

I'm sorry, what the fuck
D0 ?
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>decide I'm going to test out Thief for some extra draw power
>he's not a 2 cost
>mfw
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>>170512167
Not having Seraph, thats what

That and the meta is pretty aggro oriented....but still I see tons of control decks
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>>170512037
Gogigogigagigalorca.
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>>170499420
FOLLOW DE RULES
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>>170510938
Fangblade and Balor are rough looking badasses. Maybe you're just gay for Albert and all you see is him?
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>>170512101
>odin for mordecai
>as haven

Lmao. Use this scrub. Cucks everything that isn't seraph.
>>
Apparently, someone DDoS'd Shadow Nexus. What makes this interesting is, SV is still a niche game, and Shadow Nexus is a literally who SV community. I've been playing the game for months, and even I haven't heard of it. So, the question is, who would go out of their way to DDoS a small website almost nobody cares about? There is definitely some drama here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Shadowverse/comments/5ybihn/the_shadow_nexus_website_attacked/
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>>170512676
Who gives a shit ?
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>>170512676
Nobody here cares.

It's a false flag shill operation probably and you're a shill for that website with how you worded the post.

Also,
>linking Reddit
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>Hand and draws clunky as fuck
>Don't get oracles but emissary a wyrm spire
>Keeps removing my dragons
>Petrifies the wyrm spire and tries to power play with a 10/10 rune blade
>mManage to wrangle it because she traded it into a wyvern cavalier letting me salamander her
>She alchemical lore's my cheaps
>An inferno dragon sticks
>She sniped my face and drops a 3/3 runeblade
>Serpent's force the inferno dragon, drop an emissary'd behemoth, then salamander the runeblade out of the way before evo facign with the 13/13 inferno dragon
>She drops a 13/13 runeblade and concedes cause she couldn't get both of them out of the way with all her cantrip shit
>Finishes 2 1 pack missions
>Get first grim reaper, animated shenlong, animated limil's and 190 vials
Well I guess...

Does dshift run runeblades?


>>170511856
It's entirely possible. Neptune-grea simalacrum seacraft is pretty diesel.
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>>170512676
It was me. I did it.
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>>170512676
you have to go back!
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>>170512312
AA3. Almost to meme valhalla.
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>>170512615
Fangblade is nothing but mommas boy
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>>170512976
>implying they can't be a badass when their mom isn't around
>>
Do we have any possible reveal events today?
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>play out like usual aggro shadow
>if you fail to kill them on early game, start throwing out eachtar and undying lord at them
>use Rise of the Dead to bring either of the 3 bombs back to your hand

How is this for ToG meta?
>>
>>170512676
Fake drama to advertise the website. Muh 6 millions banished websites.
>>
>>170512934
AA3 ? Well, thanks in advance for the free points if I run into you playing this thing
>>
>2-0 with a 20/7/3 rune deck in t2
what
>>
>>170503392
>vialing playable animated lego
Retard.
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>>170513151
>How is this for ToG meta?
no one knows, need to see the rest of the new cards first you fucking retard
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>>170511275
Roach is countered by wards. Csword and slower midsword counters it. Ramp dragon with wards and heal has a decent match up. Elana also has a good chance. Have you even played the deck?
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>>170512676
Fuck off back to your subreddit you piece of trash. No one here cares about some girls group of orbiters.
>>
>>170513331

>needing other cards

An unanswered Undying Lord is easily 16 damage with Eachtar
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>>170512676
what is shadow nexus?
>>
>Drop Satan on turn 10 despite Control Sword having Albert on board
>He uses Olivia, evolves Albert and hits me for 10, bringing me down to 4, ignoring Satan
>Topdeck Astaroth
>"Checking for Connection"

...I actually felt dirty for that one
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>>170512101
>if you didnt slot in odin
Odin is a staple in every control deck. You should really run him.
>>
>buy a singular DE pack with 100 gold
>think 'damn, I could really use another Seraph in my Haven deck right now'
>instantly roll a Seraph

Does God exist?
>>
>>170513542
Shitty blog
>>
Surrender plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz 74205
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>>170512676
>"but as of last night, someone completely hacked and destroyed my website and we will have to start from scratch beginning from Tempest of the gods. "
Literally how retarded do you have to be to not keep local copies on an external?
>>
>>170513805
>JUST
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>>170495183
Commander focused Royal decks are going to become the most expensive decks in the game by far.
>>
>Luna gets two (2) fucking meme legendaries
>Sword gets Merlin 2.0
>Haven gets Mordecai 2.0
Why is this allowed?
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Is it worth teching in 2 summon iceform into dshift to drop on turn 8 vs sword and against roach or should I just accept that if I can't dshift kill them on t8 it's a lost game?
>>
Who's the better fuckboi between Zell and Elf butler?
>>
>>170514048

>eachtar is meme

I'm from the future, and you will be seeing Undying Lord into Undying Lord into Undying Lord into Eachtar when the board finally sticks.
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>>170514048
It keeps growing.
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>>170514152
Yeah iceform is great, sometimes useless but often buys you an entire extra turn of being alive which is a fantastic deal for 3 mana
At least in a ladder environment 2 copies seems good
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>>170514152
>5 mana timewalk
you tell me
>>
NEW CARDS WHEN?
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>>170514048
>Dragon gets an egg
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>>170514286
>>170514401
I'm just worried it will be a shit, dead draw in every other matchup, particularly against other rune decks. And to fit them in I'll have to drop something like a sorcery cache and a kaleidoscopic glow.

I'll give it a try though, just because sometimes buying a whole extra turn will be worth it.
>>
>>170514152
It's good against roach and aggro decks since it'll save you a turn or from damage if they don't have DoD or anything. Even if you use it you can get turn 8 DS a lot of the time.
>>
MY SPEAR

DON'T LET ME DOWN
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i was happy that i got matched against shadow for a minute
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>2PP Follower
>2/2 → 4/4
>Evolve: Gain +2/+2 if at least 3 other cards were played this turn.
>if at least 3
For real? Is this real? That'd make her not only stand out, but also make her total ass. And I wasn't all too impressed with her to begin with.
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>>170513542
Channel featuring these 4 disgusting hobos/weaboos
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dead game
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>>170514896
>Guy works hard for an atomeme
>Inc taboo
Man....

>>170514918
You play cheaper combos then stick her on the end. It's for a tempo board.
>>
>>170507627
For anyone that has ever wanted Midnight Haunting to be good, she fills that role perfectly. Infinite shadows by playing her for only 1 less mana, and you get a goliath on top of it. You can even combo her with Tyrant without the 7 shadow prerequisite.

She's definitely not a top tier card, but she's a good one.
>>
>Piratestone
>Swordverse
Can't make this shit up shadowbabs.
>>
>matched against the most obvious seraph player ever
>wiped my board with lion and put heretic inquiry t7

what the fuck do i do now
i have daria next turn
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>>170515587
Hit:
>You're a solid fighter!
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>>170514918
>>170515314

Or you can have her down on the board and play 3 cards next turn and evolve her for 6 damage to the face.
>>
A couple of weeks ago:

>lol swordcraft is worse than dragon XDDD

Now:

>REEEE SWORD IS OP

Never change /svg/.
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>>170515314
>then stick her on the end.
But she's crap comparison to Elf Gaurd or Metallurgist who already fill that niche.

A 4/4 on turn 5 isn't all that impressive.
I mean. Fuck. You've got cards for 5pp with better stats than 4/4 that still have other useful effects beyond their stats.
Granted you could activate her effect on turn 4 if you cheese it with Fairy Bringer beforehand. But that's still not very impressive.
>>
>>170515645
Yeah that'd work too. Just tack on as cheap tempo basically.

>>170515671
Nobody who knew shit thought sword was bad.
>>
>>170515671
people were talking about sword being the best control deck for months
>>
>>170515671
>lol swordcraft is worse than dragon XDDD
literally no one ever said this
>>
>>170515645
That rabbit is super cute.
Also. Her chest grew disproportionally to her body. Is that where that devious smile comes from? I am guessing she is fully aware of the fact and gloating.
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>>170515671
>beginning of DE
>"sword is dead, all the new cards are shit. banner is a meme. control is instant lose to DS and PtP"
>midrange later widely agreed as most consistent and strongest deck at end of DE

Like clockwork. At least shitters seem to have learned their lesson with the upcoming ToG.
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>>170515846
She sucked life force from the rabbit into her chest. That's why he is so small afterwards.
>>
>>170515938
It's almost like some cards were nerfed and the meta changed.
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>>170514927
This game has enough of a following to warrant these 'talkshows'?
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>Win 1 match a Shadowcraft
Really tempted to just let it fucking lapse...
>>
>>170516083
Just play aggro
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>>170515987
Panda's midrange deck was already doing well before the nerfs. It just became more popular after gameai put it on its site. I always thought aggro was good too but most people never gave it a chance.
>>
>>170516124
Shadow is fucking trash. Aggro or not. Stop pushing your meme decks.
>>
Sukuna is great. She's a 2-drop you don't want to ignore as you are close to the evolution turn.

>sukuna & liza behind 4/5 soccermom

That will be some stuff of nightmares.
>>
>>170516142
>most people never gave it a chance

Did it suddenly get popular or something given all these aggro sword people in ranked?
>>
>>170516165
>>170516083
Are you mentally challenged?
>>
>>170516165
Did someone liquify all good shadow cards to make their shitty netdeck? :^)
>>
>>170515671
Hmm I wondered what happened in those couple weeks? Could there have been a patch that changed the meta and also forced people to use other decks?

>sword shitter thinks that meta is instantly resolved at the beginning of an expansion and people can't actually try new decks later down the line

Cards like Jeno were also massively overlooked at the beginning of the expansion and people were focused on trying to make control work for sword instead.
>>
>>170516165
Doesn't matter if you think that or not. If you play a proper aggro deck, eventually AT THE VERY LEAST you'll match up against a D-shift and get the one win.
>>
>>170515671
>>170515721
>>170516261

PR was 1PP until 2 weeks ago. That's the thing that has been putting down most decks to begin with.
>>
>>170516203
Two popular decks were nerfed, netdeckers moved on to the next best thing.
>>
>>170516203
Game AI posted a decent list

The biggest counter to sword I'M A JUST A MAGE THAT IS OLD AS DIRT+Piercing rune got nerfed

Everyone jumped the bandwagon
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Glad I won and all but it's miserable to sit through daria until they literally do not have any more removal.

>>170516167
This. She's like a dark summoner that doesn't fucking kill you
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>>170516165
Fuck off, Rowen. You're not fooling anyone.
>>
>>170516345
>>170516346
Wonder whats the % of players who are netdeckers...

Personally, if I feel a deck I got from the net isnt working, I will actually edit it myself to cover a weakness that I am feeling in my matchups
>>
>>170516459
>if I feel a deck I got from the net isnt working, I will actually edit it myself to cover a weakness that I am feeling in my matchups
Thats exactly what everyone is doing and the reason why people who complain about netdecking are retarded.
>>
>>170516459
That's more or less the proper way to build a deck if you aren't a professional. You copy something that should work, and then modify it to suit your own playstyle.
>>
>>170515671
Most of /svg/ are A shitters and below
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>>170516217
>types mentally challenged instead of retarded
>Being a PC cuck on an anonymous image board
>>
>Doing good
>Bahamut XDDDD
Jesus fucking christ why was this do-everything faggot shit made
>>
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Just waiting for the day Shadowcraft gets this card.
>>
>>170516167
I misunderstood her text. Is it a 2/2 that will get +4/+4 on evolve if 3 cards were played this turn? So if you play Sukuna + Liza, and then next turn 3 cards and you evolve her, it's a 6/6 that can go face, is that right? She's a Lyrial/Vania on steroids holy shit.
At first, I understood her text as "if you play 2 cards before her, you gain Evolve: +2/+2". So, you had to play 2 fairies and Sukuna on T4 to take advantage of the big ass 6/6 threat.

Tempo will be scary as fuck.
>>
>>170517065
(You)
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>Highest cost

???
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Help, the gooks drophacked my opponent. They're no longer content to just drop rowens beating them, they defend all players from the memers now.
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>>170517404
>>
>>170517404
>weebcuck
???
>>
>>170517471
...This seems like the reverse of Dragon's discard
>>
>>170517475
kill yourself
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>>170517471
???
>>
>>170517471
For less control and more aggro?
>>
>>170517471
>just discard your wincon bro
It's fucking blatant how much Cygames hates Sword players. Disgusting.
>>
>>170517471
>Sword Legendary
>Whenever you discard a card, deal damage to an enemy equal to that cards play point cost
>>
>>170514918
She's similar to how Banner used Seria.

You dropped Seria before with Banner and fuck the enemy's face if she sticks. Alternatively with Banner for a 6/5 on evolve to not lose too much Tempo while laying down Banner.

Sukuna will be the same, just replace Banner with card play requirement.

>>170517131
Pretty much.

She's potentially Floral Fencer tempo, but for Forest in terms of stats on a T4 evo play with 2 fairies.

Or if she lives through a turn 3, she's 6 to the face.
>>
>>170517404
>>170517471

No more bricking. This can ensure for more curve play boys!
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>>170517471
>Using your first turn as aggro to mulligan
>>
>>170517471
I get the point of early antibrick but this card still doesn't make any sense.
>>
>>170517471
Insanely good card.
>>
>>170517471
???
Ptp sword?
>>
>>170517471
To all the idiots who don't understand the point of the card.

Remember that some discard card effects are non-dependent on a card actually being discarded.

You'll now realize this card is fucking insane and ridiculous.
>>
>>170517471
>sword never gets bad cards
source - svg
>>
>>170517762
OTOHIME!!!
>>
>>170517807
It's swordcraft
>>
>>170517675
It makes your curve more consistent
>>
>>170517807
>cant read
>>
>>170499302
Only seems really useful for bloodcraft cards that hurt yourself. I don't see anyway for this to survive on the board otherwise.
>>
>>170516053
They only had 60 viewers or so, but they're probably banking on Shadowverse getting bigger eventually in the west so they're getting in on the ground floor
>>
>beat player in unranked for havencraft daily
>move onto forest daily
>matched against same guy
>hes using haven
>>
>>170517943
>>170517943
>>170517943
new
>>
>>170517910
Also right now I'm watching this musclehead screaming incoherently while trying to play Geometry Dash while I'm waiting for my queue

https://www.twitch tv/loltyler1
>>
>>
>>170517762
>Have a hand of Spring Cleaning, and 1-3 drops
>Play Spring Cleaning
>Draw PtP
>Discard PtP
We did it!
>>
>>170517965
Different people can have the same name since everyone has a unique ID
>>
>>170518015
Discard first then draw
>>
>>170517845
That actually makes it excessively better. The card is incredibly well-suited to Aggro Sword.

>>170517898
Go into the game, make a Dragon deck full of low cost easily usable cards as well as Golden Dragon's Den, Dragon Counsel, and Shenlong.

Use up cards until one of these is the very last card in your hand.

>>170517967
Premature ejaculating is looked down upon.
>>
>>170517663
>how Banner used Seria.
>used
That's the key word here.
>>
>>170518807
Not her fault she and the deck got powercreeped out.
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>>170517471
>>170517404
>they gave us -the- maid card.
>it's utter crap
No! It wasn't supposed to be like this!
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>>170495034
I want to cum inside her while sucking on her breasts.
>>
>>170519101
>Take 2 of them
>Run out of cards
>Play it
>Play both cards each turn
>???
>Get 2 cards/turn for 3 turns
>???
>Win gawain banner memers
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